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  <row Id="1" PostId="15" Score="3" Text="+1 for `Of course different instructors are going to have different styles, and there is no right answer to say definitively which way is the most correct way. The most correct way is the way that works best for you. `" CreationDate="2012-01-31T21:59:23.610" UserId="33" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2" PostId="10" Score="1" Text="+1 for `This also means listening to your knees: if they start acting up then don't push them, stop.`" CreationDate="2012-01-31T22:03:58.597" UserId="33" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3" PostId="8" Score="0" Text="+1 for `Knee issues more often than not come from postural mistakes`" CreationDate="2012-01-31T22:04:20.543" UserId="33" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7" PostId="11" Score="1" Text="Do you have a video of it being performed or know the Korean name for it?" CreationDate="2012-01-31T22:56:54.573" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8" PostId="37" Score="0" Text="I have only ever learned blood (artery) chokes." CreationDate="2012-01-31T22:58:44.830" UserId="9" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9" PostId="11" Score="2" Text="If you know the palgwe forms, I believe he's talking about the move at the top of the way up in one of the red-belt forms: you perform a low-block, without stepping, pull back and execute a throat-strike and upper-cover, then jump forward, landing in this x-stop he's talking about while performing a supported-uppercut.&#xA;You can see what I think he means early in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNkeTjs833I where they jump forward and perform the supported-uppercut (as they shout)." CreationDate="2012-01-31T23:01:19.273" UserId="48" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10" PostId="38" Score="2" Text="Agreed in regard to the &quot;traditional&quot; sense... I've heard many claimants argue that it is not a martial art at all and should not be confused as one, which is why I asked." CreationDate="2012-01-31T23:05:11.553" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11" PostId="11" Score="0" Text="@Rophuine that sounds about right, do you have any further details to help my question?" CreationDate="2012-01-31T23:05:16.230" UserId="23" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13" PostId="38" Score="1" Text="I've heard the same here and there, but I have a few friends that practice it and between talking with them and spending a few hours of trying to dodge a sword and counterattack effectively according to a structured drill in the class I attended, I'm not seeing what would disqualify it." CreationDate="2012-01-31T23:14:39.607" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="18" PostId="29" Score="1" Text="I've studied in RCJ Machado BJJ which branched from Carlos Gracie's Jiu-jitsu school. So the Machado BJJ also follows the Mitsuyo Maeda line. I don't know if any BJJ schools out that that teach BJJ that can't trace their linage back to Mitsuyo Maeda." CreationDate="2012-01-31T23:33:38.820" UserId="51" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="19" PostId="29" Score="0" Text="No legitimate ones, anyway ;)" CreationDate="2012-01-31T23:36:46.443" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="21" PostId="32" Score="0" Text="That article seemed a little light-weight. My mother would call those kind of stitches &quot;homeward bounders&quot;, because they would likely only be good until you got home." CreationDate="2012-01-31T23:54:58.363" UserId="54" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="23" PostId="58" Score="0" Text="As far as I know, there are only national gun laws (perhaps someone can provide a counter). All other weapons restrictions are limited to state government, so they will vary based on locality." CreationDate="2012-02-01T00:03:09.720" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="24" PostId="51" Score="3" Text="To add to this, think of it in terms of having a few primary weapons and lots of options to fall back on. Your dominant side is going to be your weapon of choice - when you're in control of the situation, that's what you'll be using for maximum effectiveness. If you're not in control of the situation, however, training both sides effectively doubles your options. It will also help to balance your strength and flexibility, which will improve your overall ability and help to prevent injury." CreationDate="2012-02-01T00:06:05.247" UserId="48" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="25" PostId="51" Score="0" Text="Nice perspective. I like that way of explaining it." CreationDate="2012-02-01T00:09:14.003" UserId="54" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="26" PostId="58" Score="0" Text="I wasn't able to find any federal laws about anything except guns, but I was curious if there was some kind of general consensus in the state laws on the definition of a weapon. As far as I understand it, knives and swords are still pretty commonly regulated in some way, even if the specifics vary state to state." CreationDate="2012-02-01T00:14:04.090" UserId="45" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="27" PostId="55" Score="0" Text="Hi riotburn! Welcome to the site! the format of Stack exchange is that of a Question and Answer. As your 'post' doesn't quite answer the question. Could you improve on it, or move it to a comment?" CreationDate="2012-02-01T00:15:58.017" UserId="23" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="28" PostId="56" Score="0" Text="I know the main difference in the two different Tae Kwon Do bodies in the UK is one is aimed at Sport and the other Self-defence. But I don't know which is which, so I can't really answer." CreationDate="2012-02-01T00:17:45.253" UserId="23" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="29" PostId="58" Score="2" Text="This is true... Most states have a 3&quot; rule on knives, but this isn't a given... Some allow shuriken, while others do not... I think you'll need to ask this question again with the specific state if you want a good answer. For the most part, so long as it's in a bag, a training weapon won't raise any alarm... If you're using it in a park, even in a class setting, you may draw some looks from the police." CreationDate="2012-02-01T00:18:18.077" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="30" PostId="55" Score="1" Text="I did answer, i just was uncertain at first and left those sentences in by mistake" CreationDate="2012-02-01T00:25:59.047" UserId="55" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="31" PostId="55" Score="0" Text="But it still doesn't answer why you use an x-stop, like @Rophuine's does. Fy not land in an L stance instead?" CreationDate="2012-02-01T00:39:54.237" UserId="23" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="32" PostId="55" Score="0" Text="Well I agree its probably for more power, but you wouldn't do it as a solitary strike.  Going into cross over stance for a single solitary hand strike would be a bad idea as you compromise your balance.  I think it is only intended as a followup to a release such as the one I described in my answer." CreationDate="2012-02-01T00:58:44.983" UserId="55" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="33" PostId="58" Score="0" Text="What state do you live in?  Here in Texas training weapons are legal only &quot;at practice or in transit to practice&quot;&#xA;And the normal 3 inch knife laws apply at other times." CreationDate="2012-02-01T01:16:06.767" UserId="61" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="34" PostId="58" Score="4" Text="Not answerable in its current form.  Too much depends on what area you live in down to the particular city you live in." CreationDate="2012-02-01T02:07:59.027" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="35" PostId="32" Score="0" Text="@SimonPeterChappell - True, but I've sewn patches on the same way and they held up, depends upon how much wear and tear you are going to be putting on the patch. For applications where someone might use it to get a grip, odds are nothing will hold up over the long term." CreationDate="2012-02-01T02:20:10.420" UserId="46" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="36" PostId="68" Score="3" Text="In MMA you need to preregister your weight. So you must hit your target or forfeit." CreationDate="2012-02-01T02:29:01.640" UserId="66" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="40" PostId="69" Score="3" Text="@Trevoke - Can you rephrase the question to tie it into a specific martial art or clarify exactly what you are asking as to why it relates?" CreationDate="2012-02-01T02:45:50.503" UserId="46" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="42" PostId="69" Score="0" Text="@RobZ Standing is the basis for kamae and walking is the basis for kata. There are arts which focuses just on standing (static posture training), and applications come out of flowing from kamae to kamae. This is not an off-topic question. However, answering this specific question -- I'll leave that to other folk." CreationDate="2012-02-01T02:53:02.600" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="43" PostId="69" Score="1" Text="@Ho-ShengHsiao - Context is what makes a question on or off topic because evetually they want the questions to be searchable by people on Google. Without more context to a question, i.e. tai chi in the revised question, there isn't much to separate it from a basic anatomy question even though someone might be interested in it specifically due to the applications to a martial arts." CreationDate="2012-02-01T03:02:09.657" UserId="46" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="45" PostId="75" Score="8" Text="I should add that I have personal experience in this area. Someone broke into my home, and I put him in hospital. I was fortunate (or not!) that he had a gun and shot me in the leg, so there was no question that I was justified in giving him a few injuries (I didn't use a weapon)." CreationDate="2012-02-01T03:09:42.600" UserId="48" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="46" PostId="75" Score="3" Text="&quot;Be clear from the first moment you talk to the police that it was chaotic&quot; Actually, better yet, *don't* talk to the police.  Get a lawyer, quickly, to do that talking for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc" CreationDate="2012-02-01T03:12:49.380" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="52" PostId="72" Score="2" Text="This is fairly dependent on location. Would you please specify which legal system is concerned?" CreationDate="2012-02-01T03:23:19.867" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="53" PostId="72" Score="1" Text="@Trevoke - I'll tag the question with the `united-states` tag, but I also don't want to discourage others from answering regardless of their country." CreationDate="2012-02-01T03:25:38.503" UserId="46" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="55" PostId="72" Score="1" Text="fair enough, but then, shouldn't you make this a community wiki question? Otherwise, how can you pick one answer to be the best?" CreationDate="2012-02-01T03:33:20.993" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="56" PostId="75" Score="0" Text="It's probably always better to get a lawyer, I guess, but in this case they arrested my attacker, and I was a witness - this is a strong possibility in self-defence cases, so it's worth thinking about. The guy who broke into my home pushed for years to have me charged, but never got anywhere - the police and the prosecutor were firmly of the opinion that I'd acted reasonably. He's still in jail - break &amp; enter, illegal modification of a weapon, etc etc." CreationDate="2012-02-01T03:35:09.883" UserId="48" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="60" PostId="72" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke - Might be a good idea to do so, but I don't see the option to do it myself." CreationDate="2012-02-01T03:48:44.480" UserId="46" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="61" PostId="72" Score="0" Text="there it is: http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/11740/what-are-community-wiki-posts Interesting, I didn't know most of this stuff." CreationDate="2012-02-01T03:51:09.880" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="62" PostId="4" Score="2" Text="Squats, squats, squats! Yes! Also, when you do squats, straighten up your legs all the way when you come up, exactly to avoid patella / meniscus problems. Helps the body stay aware of what's right :)" CreationDate="2012-02-01T03:52:28.457" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="64" PostId="61" Score="7" Text="Not going to provide this as an answer since I have no experience with it (I use a customized notation that's very art-specific), but you could try to find references for EWMN: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eshkol-Wachman_Movement_Notation to see if it might work.  They evidently wrote a book using it for Tai Chi." CreationDate="2012-02-01T04:36:37.933" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="67" PostId="61" Score="0" Text="@DavidH.Clements, wow that looks absolutely worth experimenting with! I think I even have some graph paper lying around..." CreationDate="2012-02-01T05:50:09.887" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="68" PostId="11" Score="0" Text="Glad to hear there are more Palgue people out there, but you'll find this move in Black Belt Poomsae (Sipjin, Hansoo) as well as in traditional Hyung and Shotokan Karate kata" CreationDate="2012-02-01T06:33:26.543" UserId="79" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="69" PostId="89" Score="0" Text="I Love the scissors Take Down Idea, but as you Day yourself, that's Hardly got anything to so with TKD" CreationDate="2012-02-01T06:35:57.753" UserId="79" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="70" PostId="95" Score="0" Text="I know that its technically not writing but they are ways of &quot;describing techniques&quot;" CreationDate="2012-02-01T07:13:47.247" UserId="80" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="71" PostId="90" Score="2" Text="I understand that it's basically the same here in Australia - I believe it falls under the &quot;reasonable person&quot; test - &quot;each person owes a duty to behave as a reasonable person would under the same or similar circumstances.&quot;&#xA;&#xA;The &quot;reasonable-ness&quot; of your actions in defending yourself is assessed by a jury." CreationDate="2012-02-01T09:03:17.847" UserId="83" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="72" PostId="40" Score="2" Text="Not really an answer, but I believe Kendo trains one side exclusively." CreationDate="2012-02-01T09:05:11.977" UserId="83" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="73" PostId="62" Score="4" Text="&quot;The main difference between WTF and ITF is WTF is South Korean and ITF is North Korean&quot; This is partially true now, but wasn't always. Both ITF and WTF originated in South Korea, ITF is now the name of at least three different legal bodies, one of which originates from North Korea (the others being located in Kanada and Germany). To learn more about the history of Taekwondo read [A killing Art by Alex Gillis](http://www.akillingart.com/)" CreationDate="2012-02-01T09:21:43.533" UserId="79" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="74" PostId="62" Score="4" Text="And: &quot;kicks are the same&quot;. I'd challenge that as well. There are subtle differences in both technique and terminology. That's like saying Karate and Taekwondo Kicks are the same. They are similar, but far from the same. E.g. ITF distinguishes between thrusting and piercing variations of a side kick (as in Shotokan Karate), WTF doesn't have that distinction." CreationDate="2012-02-01T09:24:45.353" UserId="79" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="75" PostId="40" Score="0" Text="@WilliamMioch That's interesting, thanks. Almost all of the instructors of the weapons systems I've trained in advocate practising on one side only, at least until you are very proficient on that side. But practitioners of empty handed systems seem less willing to agree; I've heard so many different arguments for and against two-side training that I was hoping someone could offer something more concrete than their opinion." CreationDate="2012-02-01T09:37:07.010" UserId="17" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="76" PostId="109" Score="0" Text="*is one in which the emphasis is on application of chi energy* - more specifically, the internal arts concentrate on utilising or manipulating the [eight internal meridians](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meridian_%28Chinese_medicine%29#Eight_extraordinary_meridians). External arts also use chi although it isn't as commonly taught." CreationDate="2012-02-01T09:46:35.900" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="77" PostId="102" Score="2" Text="Is it only your balance that is the problem? There can be a bunch of reasons why people wobble or move around while kicking, you could also have issues with flexibility and abdominal strength. At what height can you kick perfectly? Do you have any physical abnormalities that intefere with kicking (like a bung hip, crooked back, jammed pelvis, etc)?" CreationDate="2012-02-01T09:51:21.217" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="78" PostId="47" Score="1" Text="Thanks, David. I've revised my question to offer a definition of an &quot;adept&quot; martial artist. I'm interested in non-martial studies into training and &quot;handedness&quot; as well. Thanks for the Hapkido data point too; I've heard the expression about &quot;two arms and two legs&quot;, but feel the &quot;one excellent arm is better than two average ones&quot; argument is equally compelling, hence me probing for scientific studies that demonstrate how one or other method of study shapes development in students over time." CreationDate="2012-02-01T10:01:35.997" UserId="17" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="79" PostId="110" Score="1" Text="There are styles of Aikido with competitions." CreationDate="2012-02-01T10:03:59.817" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="80" PostId="80" Score="2" Text="Maybe would be best if you re-formulate the title &quot;What to consider before signup with Aikido dojo&quot;. This way it sounds too broad (like considering also your health etc.)" CreationDate="2012-02-01T10:13:47.910" UserId="93" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="81" PostId="110" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion Agree." CreationDate="2012-02-01T10:13:57.837" UserDisplayName="user91" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="82" PostId="102" Score="0" Text="@slugster No physical abnormalities or disabilities. Flexibility is not bad though abdominal strength isn't great." CreationDate="2012-02-01T10:16:08.907" UserId="89" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="83" PostId="119" Score="0" Text="well, but wing-chun doesn't use chain palm- heel strikes, or does it? I've only seen chain punch" CreationDate="2012-02-01T10:28:17.920" UserId="93" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="84" PostId="119" Score="2" Text="The most common thing you'll see is an application of the standard chain punching, especially in youtube videos.  &quot;Chain Punching&quot; in Wing Chun should really be thought of as chain attacking though.  More like the example given here: [Another Example](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJRLK_4zy10)" CreationDate="2012-02-01T10:37:22.343" UserId="67" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="85" PostId="113" Score="0" Text="Your question doesn't make a lot of sense. Personally I would take centuries of Wing Chun experience and expertise over the throw-away opinion of some random CQB instructor. *Punching without gloves can lead to serious injuries* - yep, and so can crossing the road without checking for cars, or swallowing your food without chewing. Wearing gloves is not going to prevent the wrist injuries he was talking about." CreationDate="2012-02-01T10:39:54.853" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="86" PostId="113" Score="0" Text="@slugster, your comment is more emotional, compared to rational explanation of the CQC instructor. And it's not only him, many other instructors recommend to use palm heels for the same reason. Tradition in martial arts sometimes wins over reason and logic, I know. That's why I'm asking." CreationDate="2012-02-01T11:11:39.703" UserId="93" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="87" PostId="113" Score="4" Text="People who train correctly should not risk suffering from serious injuries when punching. The comments from the CQC instructor were for untrained novices, personally that is the sort of thing I would only teach to women taking a single self defence class (who will never bother to go through strength and conditioning training). Don't take everything you see in a youtube video as gospel." CreationDate="2012-02-01T11:19:22.167" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="88" PostId="113" Score="0" Text="Yes it works for novices, and that's the plus - it is something effective and natural, that works from the beginning, not only after 3-4 years of training. IMHO the idea of wing chun is to be efective. Fixing punching habits would lower my natural efectivity for at least a year or two." CreationDate="2012-02-01T11:27:49.693" UserId="93" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="89" PostId="125" Score="0" Text="+1 for Aikido.  We do use it a lot, especially in randori training." CreationDate="2012-02-01T11:32:41.403" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="99" PostId="80" Score="0" Text="Your question is not clear. What are you looking for ? How choose a good dojo or style ? What is the physical condition required ? Is aikido good for me ? etc" CreationDate="2012-02-01T14:05:30.763" UserId="10" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="100" PostId="137" Score="0" Text="+1 These is how I teach them already. I use as well a big crash matt to get them to throw themselves so they can focus on their technique instead of fearing injury." CreationDate="2012-02-01T14:07:39.497" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="101" PostId="90" Score="0" Text="Seems like it is very much inline with the United States based upon what I have heard from others as well." CreationDate="2012-02-01T14:22:54.167" UserId="46" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="103" PostId="5" Score="0" Text="similar answer here http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/97/93." CreationDate="2012-02-01T14:27:45.127" UserId="93" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="104" PostId="140" Score="1" Text="Absolutely! Spoken like someone who has had to learn a lot of things about teaching kids the hard way :)" CreationDate="2012-02-01T14:28:10.823" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="105" PostId="80" Score="0" Text="more general question [here](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/5/93). Mat, I already wrote my proposal in quotes, and your new one is much better." CreationDate="2012-02-01T14:29:32.253" UserId="93" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="107" PostId="68" Score="0" Text="So pre-register 5 lbs higher. If you can't handle an opponent 5 lbs bigger than you, perhaps full-contact martial arts contests aren't for you." CreationDate="2012-02-01T14:41:55.650" UserId="54" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="110" PostId="143" Score="3" Text="Good points- though I don't agree that at least one-third of the students should be black belt.  Black belt rank is just an indicator (not a goal), and the rate of advancement differs from school to school, so this can be very misleading." CreationDate="2012-02-01T15:11:27.197" UserId="16" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="111" PostId="143" Score="0" Text="agreed, it's misleading." CreationDate="2012-02-01T15:13:12.620" UserId="10" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="112" PostId="143" Score="1" Text="I should note though, that having a too long roadmap to achieve the black belt is not a good sign, imho." CreationDate="2012-02-01T15:14:51.913" UserId="10" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="113" PostId="144" Score="1" Text="keeping the hand wraps very clean will help keep the boxing gloves fresh as well." CreationDate="2012-02-01T15:31:33.850" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="116" PostId="155" Score="3" Text="I agree with all of Sardathrion's points, and I would concur with Patricia that focus AND interest are key.  My son joined my Kung Fu school and had interest for about 9 months, then it waned.  He liked the idea of learning but didn't get into it as much as I did, although he had fun I eventually let him out of his commitment until he is a bit older.  I also spent time looking for a school, and joining, for a year before signing up my son to be sure it was a good environment for him." CreationDate="2012-02-01T16:07:53.383" UserId="106" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="117" PostId="158" Score="2" Text="Could you say *why* you would not recommend it?" CreationDate="2012-02-01T16:08:24.450" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="118" PostId="83" Score="0" Text="What form of hapkido do you study?  I know from my own research and training that hapkido schools vary wildly not only in how they teach the art, but also in what they will stress and what it will be called." CreationDate="2012-02-01T16:17:56.403" UserId="105" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="119" PostId="158" Score="0" Text="Done, I edited my answer." CreationDate="2012-02-01T16:18:14.370" UserId="85" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="121" PostId="83" Score="0" Text="USA Hapkido Association (no online presence to speak of), from one of Lee Ki-Duk's students." CreationDate="2012-02-01T16:27:56.620" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="122" PostId="69" Score="0" Text="Technically, equating it to &quot;Nanba&quot; could include it in the realm of martial arts, as Nanba (Japanese Walking) is a component of Kobujutsu taisabaki. I do not know, however, if there is a Chinese or other equivalent..." CreationDate="2012-02-01T16:39:30.157" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="124" PostId="125" Score="0" Text="We did a variation of it in my tantojutsu class (derived from aikijujutsu) as well." CreationDate="2012-02-01T16:47:36.500" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="125" PostId="68" Score="2" Text="mma fights have set weight classes, there is no 5lbs higher.  the classes tend to be 125, 135, 145, 155, 170, 185, 205, 205+  so weight cutting / maintaining is a huge part of the game." CreationDate="2012-02-01T16:51:17.293" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="128" PostId="140" Score="0" Text="Some kids get a rise making other in the class to push ups, and/or like showing off when they do them alone as punishment. I think tacone's answer is bang on, but if punishment is needed have them sit out for blocks of time." CreationDate="2012-02-01T17:11:47.723" UserId="51" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="129" PostId="159" Score="9" Text="This question is problematic; first, it's not necessarily the art but the instructors approach that makes it applicable as self-defense (Two schools of Shotokan Karate may take different approaches, one of tournament competition, and one of self-defense). Second, I already see a lot of opinion coming in from the answerers (&quot;Jiu jitsu is probably the best&quot;, &quot;Judo is what I recommend&quot;, etc.). I vote to close." CreationDate="2012-02-01T17:13:05.470" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="130" PostId="136" Score="2" Text="&quot;as far as if the who class is missbehaving, before you get &#xA;to harsh on them, think about whats going on, is it the &#xA;last day of school?&quot;&#xA;&#xA;nice suggestion" CreationDate="2012-02-01T17:25:36.063" UserId="10" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="133" PostId="180" Score="0" Text="+1 This is hard core but I like it..." CreationDate="2012-02-01T17:50:34.597" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="136" PostId="159" Score="5" Text="Ryan is asking which arts focus on practical personal protection. As I outline in my answer below, there are ways to evaluate individual schools for this. I think that the question and answers below are interesting and likely to be helpful for future visitors." CreationDate="2012-02-01T18:03:46.437" UserId="17" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="137" PostId="181" Score="0" Text="What do you mean by &quot;great&quot; students?" CreationDate="2012-02-01T18:09:00.647" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="138" PostId="181" Score="1" Text="It's not about what I mean but what he'd mean for &quot;great&quot;. If he likes (most) of the students of a teacher then that teacher will be good for him." CreationDate="2012-02-01T18:12:48.670" UserId="10" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="140" PostId="184" Score="0" Text="Very good answer. I have not seen, in any jurisdiction, where black belts or martial artists have to register themselves as lethal weapons. But in a trial your training will come into question and because of your training you should have been able to control yourself, which could lead to a stiffer penalty or sentence." CreationDate="2012-02-01T18:33:41.723" UserId="51" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="141" PostId="68" Score="0" Text="Do you select a weight and then weigh in to prove that you're within the boundaries? Otherwise, I'd just turn up and fight at whatever weight I was. Of course, there's more of me to love these days, so I'd likely be placed in the open weight no matter how much &quot;cutting&quot; I did, so that's easy for me to say. :-)" CreationDate="2012-02-01T18:33:49.167" UserId="54" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="143" PostId="62" Score="0" Text="Well if you mean doing side kick with the heel vs the blade of the foot, then I have learned both of those at my school which is WTF.  Then again my teacher takes here and there from other arts." CreationDate="2012-02-01T18:40:47.603" UserId="55" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="144" PostId="184" Score="1" Text="This is very true. Essentially, everything can and will come into evidence that relates to the trial, including, unfortunately, just how likable you are. In the interest of disclosure, I don't believe in hanging around for the police. My responsibility is to my family above all else. If what I did was illegal, they'll come and find me." CreationDate="2012-02-01T18:55:00.003" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="146" PostId="180" Score="0" Text="I myself had a lot of trouble with &quot;negative suggestion&quot; in my early training, so I came up with this as a way to combat that. There's a great example of this principle in action [here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZQWorFvFv4)" CreationDate="2012-02-01T19:04:12.280" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="150" PostId="118" Score="0" Text="This is partly a difference in large weapon training versus hand-to-hand or small weapon training.  With large weapons you tend to focus heavily on one side, since switching is cumbersome.  The angles also change more dramatically when the opponent switches hands, so you tend to focus on one direction.  Meanwhile, with a small weapon or with hand-to-hand things can be a little more fluid and the angles don't change quite as dramatically." CreationDate="2012-02-01T19:52:56.027" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="152" PostId="62" Score="0" Text="Same here. I had a master who formally belonged to the WTF but had learned traditional TKD way back in the old days. But I'm talking about official techniques, not individual interpretations." CreationDate="2012-02-01T19:58:54.470" UserId="79" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="153" PostId="118" Score="0" Text="@DavidH.Clements, this is not valid in aikido because jo is much longer than bokken (I think 130-140cm) and you train both sides equaly. So in aikido it really doesn't make much sense, it's probably only a tradition." CreationDate="2012-02-01T20:10:06.373" UserId="93" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="154" PostId="72" Score="0" Text="&quot;Being&quot; one, probably not these days, but there is history regarding that and the Chinese Cultural Revolution. Using martial arts against someone, whether to do harm or in self-defense, is different." CreationDate="2012-02-01T20:23:53.050" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="155" PostId="192" Score="0" Text="I'd say this question is not constructive unless you give more info as to how your toes were injured." CreationDate="2012-02-01T20:32:13.260" UserId="79" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="156" PostId="93" Score="0" Text="See also my answer to this question: http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/102/exercises-to-improve-balance-when-kicking/107#107" CreationDate="2012-02-01T20:35:11.117" UserId="79" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="157" PostId="192" Score="0" Text="I am speaking in general. But I stated an example that happened, when I hit the elbow of my opponent I hurt my little toe." CreationDate="2012-02-01T20:37:08.043" UserId="112" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="158" PostId="194" Score="0" Text="I see, sounds pretty logical to me. I didn't think about it that way. But in any case how can you improve speed and footwork?" CreationDate="2012-02-01T20:45:30.217" UserId="112" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="160" PostId="195" Score="0" Text="Yes you are right. It's usually one person that does that. He almost exclusively kicks. Low kicks are not allowed unfortunately..." CreationDate="2012-02-01T21:15:41.800" UserId="112" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="162" PostId="75" Score="2" Text="@Rophuine - Guy breaks into your house, shoots you in the leg, and then tries to have you charged?! Good grief." CreationDate="2012-02-01T21:56:49.720" UserId="104" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="163" PostId="195" Score="0" Text="What he's using is a quick and easy way to avoid real confrontation. People that do that too much usually do it because their own fear and lack of skill. Use it as a chance to learn how to deal with that kind of oppponent, but also know you won't learn much else with him. That kind of stance is usually not recommended for novices afaik." CreationDate="2012-02-01T22:02:44.757" UserId="10" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="164" PostId="160" Score="0" Text="Retagged from `teaching` and `recommendation` to `teaching-recommendation` which seemed to have more appropriate meaning for this question. `teaching` seems to imply the question itself is about teaching." CreationDate="2012-02-01T22:43:16.870" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="166" PostId="7" Score="6" Text="A more generic form of this question, &quot;How to return to martial arts?&quot; might make for a great community wiki question." CreationDate="2012-02-01T23:12:50.883" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="167" PostId="109" Score="2" Text="@CuinnWylie - Arguable, but even if you reject the notion of Qi/Chi/Ki (as I do... Filthy stuff. Never touch it. :D), the fundamental difference boils down to the method of generating power. The external see the body as the sum of its parts, cultivating the individual components into weapons through training such as iron palm. The internal generate power from the center of balance (dan tien), making use of the rotation and explosive energy of the body as a whole. Chi is often used as an explanation in external as well as internal arts." CreationDate="2012-02-01T23:34:41.060" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="168" PostId="75" Score="0" Text="Yep - he argued that I'd used excessive force to restrain him. He was pretty badly messed up, but then again, he shot me - and the prosecutor reckoned I could have done much worse with impunity." CreationDate="2012-02-01T23:39:56.317" UserId="48" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="169" PostId="105" Score="0" Text="I'd be curious to know the reason of the down votes." CreationDate="2012-02-01T23:42:47.307" UserId="10" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="170" PostId="90" Score="1" Text="The basic rule in the US is that &quot;A person may [...] use physical force upon another person when and to the extent he reasonably believes such to be necessary to defend himself or a third person from what he reasonably believes to be the use or imminent use of unlawful physical force by such other person&quot; with a few added caveats and conditions. Very similar." CreationDate="2012-02-01T23:45:01.550" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="171" PostId="105" Score="0" Text="ouch, me too - anyone of the down voters prepared to comment?" CreationDate="2012-02-01T23:50:12.077" UserId="83" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="172" PostId="195" Score="0" Text="Also, you may be telegraphing your punch, which lets him have the sidekick on the way earlier. If he's a training buddy, it might be worth asking him - he may be prepared to let you know what keeps tipping him off." CreationDate="2012-02-01T23:51:00.343" UserId="48" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="173" PostId="204" Score="0" Text="Tai Chi is the only one I know of that is slow - Hsing I Chuan and Bagua Zhang are not usually done slowly. Hsing I in particular is quite fast!" CreationDate="2012-02-01T23:52:44.303" UserId="83" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="174" PostId="105" Score="1" Text="Yea I'd agree, answer is pretty good in my opinion. I'd also completely agree with the spectrum comment." CreationDate="2012-02-01T23:58:39.280" UserId="51" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="175" PostId="61" Score="0" Text="If you do play with it and it works well, let me know how it turns out ^_^ I'd be interested to see." CreationDate="2012-02-02T00:07:18.627" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="177" PostId="109" Score="0" Text="@stslavik - I think that there is some confusion between Internal/External and Soft/Hard.  Both internal and external martial arts can be soft or hard. The classical definition of external and internal is in my answer above (whether you reject or accept the notion of chi)." CreationDate="2012-02-02T00:26:32.717" UserId="67" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="178" PostId="68" Score="0" Text="@SimonPeterChappell As I said earlier, you need to preregister a weight and then weigh in. Previously I fought at 70kg, but I'm thinking about making a run for 66kg. Also, you get fans at a weight, so changing from welter to light-heavy costs more than fighting a at a higher weight class." CreationDate="2012-02-02T02:21:56.710" UserId="66" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="181" PostId="207" Score="0" Text="Why grab the gun, why not just parry it? You don't need to maintain a grip on it when you are quickly following up with more strikes or other techniques. Not holding the gun means you won't get burnt and don't risk your hand being shot if you accidentally slide it over the end of the barrel." CreationDate="2012-02-02T02:40:45.107" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="182" PostId="50" Score="4" Text="&quot;The only answer that can be given is that it is very dangerous&quot; seems unhelpful. For instance, the CDC reports 82 deaths in 12 years among children choking each other for fun (http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-176049051.html). An [mma doc](http://mmajunkie.com/news/24357/ask-the-fight-doc-is-brain-damage-possible-when-chokes-are-held-too-long.mma) says it's unlikely. A [book](http://goo.gl/4MbvD) says that Judo practitioners, who regularly use chokes, show negligible long-term loss of brain function. So surely there's better answers than just &quot;it is very dangerous.&quot;" CreationDate="2012-02-02T02:45:12.633" UserId="114" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="183" PostId="207" Score="8" Text="He's talking about a disarm technique - the pistol (or other firearm) is taken off the attacker. Difficult without a grip." CreationDate="2012-02-02T02:57:45.337" UserId="83" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="185" PostId="68" Score="0" Text="@Ginamin Interesting. I am aware of MMA, but have not looked into it closely enough to know the rules and procedures. The few Judo contests that I have entered have been very relaxed about weights, with weigh-ins being the morning of the fight and they stretched the weight categories here and there to even up the number of folks in each. MMA is on its way to being big business, so I can see that that wouldn't work there." CreationDate="2012-02-02T03:46:22.750" UserId="54" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="186" PostId="109" Score="1" Text="@CuinnWylie: No, there's no confusion, at least not on my end, though I can understand why you might think so. I'm trimming away the mysticism with an explanation of the core focus of internal styles. Another term used is &quot;relaxed tension&quot; (RMA). This differentiates from &quot;soft&quot; concepts like &quot;aiki&quot;, &quot;blending&quot;, &quot;nagare&quot;, etc... In other words, I'm agreeing with you, without agreeing to the concept of chi, which is why I posted as a comment (which should strengthen your answer) rather than an answer (which would potentially detract from the strength of both our arguments)." CreationDate="2012-02-02T05:08:41.520" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="189" PostId="75" Score="2" Text="Yeah, the fact that he had a gun and it was in your home frequently–though not always–makes it a &quot;lethal force warranted&quot; situation under law, which simplifies things significantly for force short of lethal." CreationDate="2012-02-02T06:51:35.903" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="190" PostId="180" Score="0" Text="I don't know, I am just starting with high falls and while I can do some of them, the feeling of impact is pretty real. It's not an injury but still unpleasant enough for me to not want to repeat it too often, especially if I'm doing it wrong (which, as a beginner, happens from time to time). I can overcome this reluctance, and do so, but suggestion that it is purely &quot;in my head&quot; and some trick can remove it doesn't really sound plausible to me. Maybe I'm missing the point here." CreationDate="2012-02-02T08:17:18.977" UserId="49" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="192" PostId="202" Score="2" Text="You should also consider breathing techniques for scuba divers. Not only must a diver conserve O2, but they must also use their lungs to maintain buoyancy." CreationDate="2012-02-02T08:39:08.060" UserId="66" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="195" PostId="208" Score="0" Text="What knives do you use for sparrings now?" CreationDate="2012-02-02T08:51:13.617" UserDisplayName="user91" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="196" PostId="208" Score="0" Text="rubber mainly, sometimes wood" CreationDate="2012-02-02T09:14:07.927" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="198" PostId="195" Score="0" Text="A well-timed mid-level side kick can't be countered with a low kick anyway, if you've paid attention in Trigonometry. Unless your legs are much longer than the other guy's :-)" CreationDate="2012-02-02T09:19:47.087" UserId="79" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="199" PostId="208" Score="0" Text="Strange indeed. For me, strike of a wooden tanto is enough painful to avoid that as much as I can. Thus, I don't need anything harder to be careful." CreationDate="2012-02-02T09:22:07.113" UserDisplayName="user91" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="200" PostId="208" Score="0" Text="not if it slides across major tendons.  It has very little effect, you may not even notice in the middle of it all as well" CreationDate="2012-02-02T09:43:02.923" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="201" PostId="208" Score="2" Text="actually this video is a good summary...  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw4ft1L5a3U" CreationDate="2012-02-02T09:46:31.983" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="203" PostId="208" Score="1" Text="Strongly depends on technique, I believe. Our cuts look more like chops than like cuts, so even wooden knife strikes painfully. And, well, these shocking knifes give you an illusion of strike while you only touched the partner." CreationDate="2012-02-02T10:05:50.147" UserDisplayName="user91" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="204" PostId="219" Score="0" Text="one thing about your question, you do ask for several different things, requiring different answers." CreationDate="2012-02-02T10:06:41.033" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="206" PostId="208" Score="0" Text="yes, but you can't limit yourself just to chopping techniques to make it painful in training, as a real knife works in more ways than chops.    Its not so much they give the illusion, the interesting thing about them is they demand more respect because there is greater consequence to being tagged by one." CreationDate="2012-02-02T10:10:19.593" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="207" PostId="208" Score="0" Text="agree on all points" CreationDate="2012-02-02T10:31:29.490" UserDisplayName="user91" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="208" PostId="208" Score="0" Text="regarding technical limitations: the intent is not in painful trainings, but in fact, that most 'slight' cuts (forgive me my English) do not effectively cut clothed opponents (tested on pig meat under shirts and different coats), so we are for force chops where applicable" CreationDate="2012-02-02T10:36:48.380" UserDisplayName="user91" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="209" PostId="208" Score="1" Text="for sure.....anything that's not a knife is only going to be a 'simulation' of real knife fighting, no matter how you train, it's not quite the real thing.  Which is true of most all martial arts training." CreationDate="2012-02-02T10:39:51.827" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="212" PostId="222" Score="3" Text="+1.  This could be migrated to history.stackexchange.com but I believe that it could be on topic here as well if we agreed on philosophy and history tags." CreationDate="2012-02-02T13:28:17.667" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="213" PostId="222" Score="1" Text="The historical point of view may help to understand the present situation; however my question looks at the present situation." CreationDate="2012-02-02T13:32:46.317" UserId="85" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="216" PostId="221" Score="1" Text="I've heard my teacher recommend people with the same problem to sit in seiza but with the toes pointed down. If you do this every day for half an hour (e.g. when watching tv at home) your toe joints should become more flexible. Use a pillow when sitting on a hard surface." CreationDate="2012-02-02T13:45:36.637" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="217" PostId="29" Score="0" Text="all bjj came from Maeda, but it didn't all stem from the gracies after that.  there are several branches straight from Maeda, which a lot of people seem to forget/ not realize.   The Nova União team is a prime example of that." CreationDate="2012-02-02T13:50:45.787" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="218" PostId="221" Score="1" Text="Sadly, no - have tried many things over the years. The problem is the bones just don't allow my toes to move up or down more than a couple of millimetres. Not sure whether it was caused  by all the running I did when younger - can't remember what they were like before that." CreationDate="2012-02-02T13:55:24.633" UserId="57" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="219" PostId="216" Score="6" Text="We like technical minutia, sir :)" CreationDate="2012-02-02T14:15:52.690" UserId="10" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="224" PostId="118" Score="1" Text="The jo has traditionally been meant to be a (very effective) defense against the japanese sword. Many of the techniques for defense against a sword use the fact that the sword is held in one particular way. Allowing for another bokken grip may force the techniques to change. The flexibility of the jo would allow for this, of course, and the ease of grip switch is great defense against a sword. Oh, and of course, the other traditional reason - since people had the scabbard on the left side, they drew on the right side. Much tradition here indeed." CreationDate="2012-02-02T15:04:03.957" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="225" PostId="219" Score="0" Text="In my mind there are still too many questions, independent of the topicality of the theme." CreationDate="2012-02-02T15:09:36.390" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="226" PostId="219" Score="0" Text="Point taken, I have edited the question once more." CreationDate="2012-02-02T15:15:19.177" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="227" PostId="202" Score="0" Text="This is the answer I was hoping I'd be able to write. Besides, in archery, like in other martial arts, breathing is everything." CreationDate="2012-02-02T15:24:35.383" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="228" PostId="229" Score="0" Text="Another expression would be &quot;mushin nugamae&quot; (lit. no mind, no posture)." CreationDate="2012-02-02T15:24:54.007" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="229" PostId="229" Score="0" Text="Yes! How did I forget that one? Editing this in now. Thanks." CreationDate="2012-02-02T15:25:18.393" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="230" PostId="230" Score="2" Text="We used to use pens (normal ballpoint pens, caps in place). Worked rather well." CreationDate="2012-02-02T15:26:27.790" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="231" PostId="230" Score="1" Text="Pens or anything that leaves marks is excellent if you're keeping score. Before you keep score, my thought on this is to develop awareness. Reasoning: what are we keeping track of if people are flailing around, unknowing of what's happening around them?" CreationDate="2012-02-02T15:29:18.683" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="233" PostId="94" Score="2" Text="Can't answer this question until OP actually tells us what he wants. &quot;replacing karate&quot; or &quot;adding to karate&quot; are not useful requirements, because too abstract and wholly dependent on the training that was done." CreationDate="2012-02-02T15:45:55.403" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="234" PostId="229" Score="0" Text="You are most welcome." CreationDate="2012-02-02T15:50:20.173" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="236" PostId="40" Score="2" Text="Strategy is not a search for truth." CreationDate="2012-02-02T16:23:54.293" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="237" PostId="29" Score="2" Text="@Patricia: You'll notice I made that distinction already, with the example of Luis França. I am quite sure there are many other minor forms; I only intended to show the most significant (currently) as being that of the Gracie lineage. Please let me know if I can make this more clear in the post." CreationDate="2012-02-02T16:40:50.967" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="238" PostId="29" Score="0" Text="your answer is good! i just wanted to make it a little more clear that not all bjj is from the gracies, a very common misconception." CreationDate="2012-02-02T16:46:28.813" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="240" PostId="223" Score="4" Text="In addition, by the time Bushido was formally codified (at the end of the Tokugawa Jidai), the ninja were already in decline. It might be helpful as well to make the distinction of the ninja as a job, and the samurai as a caste. Many ninja *were* samurai (Hattori Hanzo, for instance). Also, I'm not sure the sarcasm carries well with &quot;Of course they had no honor and no morals!&quot;..." CreationDate="2012-02-02T17:18:01.933" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="242" PostId="233" Score="2" Text="+1 All good reasons. I'd only add that kata are a mnemonic chain – it's easier to remember a technique when you put it in conjunction with a prior movement. It's also why many traditional fighting styles were transmitted through folk dancing." CreationDate="2012-02-02T17:42:30.397" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="244" PostId="230" Score="2" Text="slow training is good to a point, however, you really do need to train at speed because a LOT of technique breaks down under pressure." CreationDate="2012-02-02T17:52:37.703" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="245" PostId="216" Score="3" Text="Interesting. I'm curious to see if there's a *reason* for the differences. My shidoshi used to kick our feet out from under us if we raised up on the ball during a kick..." CreationDate="2012-02-02T17:55:50.850" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="246" PostId="159" Score="3" Text="**Note:** If you have questions/discussion about the legitimacy of this question, please bring it to meta. **No further** comment discussions here please, except to improve the content of the post. Thanks." CreationDate="2012-02-02T18:17:44.223" UserId="59" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="247" PostId="223" Score="0" Text="stslavik, was about to say that!  Ninja was a set of skills employed by peasants, samurai, and whoever the lord who sent them out deemed neccesary." CreationDate="2012-02-02T18:24:58.037" UserId="61" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="248" PostId="230" Score="0" Text="Keith Nicholas, Very good point, with any technique, not neccesarily knives." CreationDate="2012-02-02T18:29:48.933" UserId="61" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="251" PostId="230" Score="0" Text="@KeithNicholas All I said was 'develop awareness'... I never said it was the be-all, end-all of knife training (or any training for that matter). Slow training has the benefit of developing awareness and sensitivity, which fast training (as the OP clearly states) does not, and this leads to problems. I realize that I did not &quot;answer the question&quot;, but I feel like I answered the problem." CreationDate="2012-02-02T19:47:49.163" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="253" PostId="222" Score="3" Text="Since I feel that @Sardathrion did an excellent job of nailing some of the major points with his answer, I won't detract from them by posting my own. I will add that the Shoninki admonishes the ninja of Kishu-ryu from being amoral or dishonorable, reminding them that they are not thieves or murderers, but that they serve a purpose. It's not that some ninja weren't &quot;bad guys&quot;, but this is true of all groups in society, even the supposedly moral and just samurai. Much of their perceived morality stems from their rank under confucianism." CreationDate="2012-02-02T19:51:24.057" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="255" PostId="243" Score="2" Text="Great answer! Repeated exposure to the stimulus should desensitize the natural reaction." CreationDate="2012-02-02T21:18:27.143" UserId="51" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="267" PostId="109" Score="0" Text="@stslavik - Makes sense, thanks for clarifying.  :-)" CreationDate="2012-02-02T23:32:24.737" UserId="67" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="268" PostId="109" Score="0" Text="@CuinnWylie: No problem; I have a personal issue with things being explained in metaphysical terms when purely physical and logical explanations will suffice." CreationDate="2012-02-02T23:35:45.290" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="269" PostId="255" Score="0" Text="That's a really excellent approach for learning to read the other person as a matter of personal work. Not quite what I am looking for since I am looking for drills to train others with, but I may adapt it as a way of explaining how to frame it." CreationDate="2012-02-03T01:58:48.907" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="270" PostId="255" Score="1" Text="+1 Yep, de-focussing is the way to go. Problem is I don't know of any drills for it, except maybe learning how to do it via meditation." CreationDate="2012-02-03T02:35:47.910" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="271" PostId="244" Score="0" Text="I like the &quot;shadow boxing&quot; idea.  I will give that a try." CreationDate="2012-02-03T05:20:25.163" UserId="61" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="272" PostId="220" Score="0" Text="+1 to that, I've started doing CrossFit in parallel with my Aikido training and it helps me a lot." CreationDate="2012-02-03T06:22:53.790" UserId="49" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="273" PostId="159" Score="1" Text="How can you train for self-defence if you have no desire to train in a competitive area?  In my not so humble opinion, sport is one of the only safe ways to practice against full resistance. Of course, it cuts a lot from a fight -- there are rules!  But what other training method can you get?  I am not trying to be irritating, just genuinely curious." CreationDate="2012-02-03T08:33:36.857" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="274" PostId="171" Score="1" Text="The only complaint I have against MMA (and I am a student) is that it instills many habits that are just atrocious in a one vs many situation. I cannot help but sprawl on someone is they get low enough which will get you a solid head kick from someone else. I personally think krav maga is more practical although I would never train it myself." CreationDate="2012-02-03T12:37:41.237" UserId="66" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="275" PostId="262" Score="2" Text="+1 Very nice answer. I would be interested in the references for the first footnote." CreationDate="2012-02-03T12:40:34.183" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="276" PostId="243" Score="1" Text="I can just feel the gloves hitting my face my first month of boxing. Repeated exposure isn't fun but it gets results!" CreationDate="2012-02-03T12:46:23.173" UserId="66" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="277" PostId="243" Score="0" Text="+1 for repeated exposure and &quot;redirect rather than inhibit natural responses&quot;." CreationDate="2012-02-03T13:42:59.627" UserId="17" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="278" PostId="262" Score="0" Text="Agreed, well written AND citations +1" CreationDate="2012-02-03T14:56:03.580" UserId="61" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="281" PostId="255" Score="0" Text="@slugster yeah, this is a good answer. There are drills for de-focusing. See my answer." CreationDate="2012-02-03T16:02:21.540" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="282" PostId="239" Score="0" Text="You play Go, too?" CreationDate="2012-02-03T16:11:52.713" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="283" PostId="238" Score="1" Text="I suggest that whoever taught you the applications of kata did not understand how to use it. Often, what you see as obvious in the kata is not its true intent. A punch can conceal a grab, a leg kick can conceal a sweep, a block can conceal a throw. They are more like what David H. Clements said about *joseki* in Go. You'll see those patterns appear in the field as variants." CreationDate="2012-02-03T16:20:10.067" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="284" PostId="50" Score="1" Text="@user249228 The answer isn't unhelpful, it's truthful. The question specifically asked about choking to unconsciousness. Asphyxia is no laughing matter and there is no way to know what someone's physical tolerance for such things would be. Now, under normal circumstances or training regimes, it's a non-issue because everyone (except the young and foolish like I was) taps out before the choke reaches a dangerous point. The question specifically asked about choking to the point of unconsciousness and that is outside of the normal realms that most of us deal with." CreationDate="2012-02-03T16:20:52.590" UserId="54" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="285" PostId="260" Score="1" Text="Sometimes it isn't that paranoid. I've seen modern teachers say, &quot;no, this obvious part isn't important, look at the essence&quot; and the student still gets distracted." CreationDate="2012-02-03T16:26:50.557" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="286" PostId="239" Score="0" Text="Used to play very actively, not as much any longer, unfortunately." CreationDate="2012-02-03T16:32:22.953" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="287" PostId="57" Score="2" Text="Depending upon the school a patch might be required to show your school affiliation but beyond that they tend to just be there for flash that I agree isn't really needed." CreationDate="2012-02-03T16:33:26.737" UserId="46" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="288" PostId="255" Score="0" Text="@slugster: Really, it's not so difficult as picking up drills for it. Make it natural, instinctual... De-focus to widen your perspective, and make focusing the secondary act. You'll have less headaches as a side-effect." CreationDate="2012-02-03T16:39:17.360" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="289" PostId="239" Score="0" Text="I just got started. Been playing with people through a smartphone (6 days per move), so it is convenient. Trevoke showed me the game a few years back." CreationDate="2012-02-03T16:41:37.030" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="290" PostId="264" Score="3" Text="I have a problem answering this with such a short answer, so I'll post it in comment and others can run with it if they so choose: They are and have been for a very long time – for example, Seki-ryu Hojutsu is a kobujutsu school dedicated to musketry (or gunnery, which tends nowadays to carry a connotation of artillery) as are other schools listed [here](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hōjutsu)." CreationDate="2012-02-03T17:08:15.967" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="293" PostId="274" Score="1" Text="TL;DR, but +1 for &quot;the best way to build up to doing a stance is to do the stance&quot;" CreationDate="2012-02-03T17:40:32.290" UserId="79" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="294" PostId="274" Score="2" Text="@SeanPatrickFloyd: You think that's long, you should see my other answers ;)" CreationDate="2012-02-03T17:50:00.220" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="295" PostId="274" Score="0" Text="No, it's not too long, but I'm still at work and just don't have the time I wish I had." CreationDate="2012-02-03T17:55:25.033" UserId="79" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="296" PostId="171" Score="0" Text="@Ginamin I think your pretty bang on. My issue that a lost of martial arts that people train in they rarely work with other people. So when they get hit for the first time in a real situation it phases them. Personally I trained in Karate when I was younger and now in West Coast MMA and BJJ and I feel far more confident when interacting with an opponent. Krav Maga is wicked and real world test, like MCMAP. But getting trained in them is probably outside most peoples ability." CreationDate="2012-02-03T18:28:31.930" UserId="51" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="297" PostId="57" Score="1" Text="@Rob Z - That's true. If the school requires a certain patch in a certain location, then they would be the best ones to advise on the appropriate manner of attaching it." CreationDate="2012-02-03T18:29:32.677" UserId="54" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="299" PostId="278" Score="2" Text="*&quot;A lot of martial arts trace their lineage back to times that predate firearms.&quot;* Some, but not a lot... Late 12th c. to early 13th c. saw the adaptation of firearms in the form of handheld cannons in China; these were introduced to Japan in the 15th c. as was jujutsu. Most martial arts aren't as old as people like to think; even if they were founded at that time, they have evolved further than that origin. Likely, the reason you see this less is the oppression of civilian martial artists in Communist and Post-Imperialist societies." CreationDate="2012-02-03T18:36:35.307" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="300" PostId="57" Score="2" Text="Depends, at our school they told us we were mature adults who should be able to figure such things out. :)" CreationDate="2012-02-03T18:37:18.623" UserId="46" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="301" PostId="278" Score="0" Text="@stslavik Yes some is a far better qualifier. When studying the history of some of the martial arts a lot were far younger then I had originally thought." CreationDate="2012-02-03T18:39:50.243" UserId="51" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="303" PostId="278" Score="1" Text="Plus figure in traditions of the culture your studying (The Japanese love, for instance, to claim mythical figures in their lineages) and the average education level of the society from which the art developed. Sociology of martial arts is quite fascinating :)" CreationDate="2012-02-03T18:42:59.463" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="308" PostId="280" Score="0" Text="+1 - Great answer, the Hojutsu is something complete new to me." CreationDate="2012-02-03T19:31:49.273" UserId="46" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="309" PostId="28" Score="2" Text="Hmmm. Follow up question... Is this a nose bleed from trauma or a naturally occurring bleed? The reason I ask is because if it's one caused from the exertion of the class and climate of the room, preventative measures may be appropriate as well." CreationDate="2012-02-03T20:32:26.083" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="310" PostId="266" Score="2" Text="The Merriam-Webster dictionary amusingly defines &quot;[several](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/several)&quot; first as &quot;more than one&quot;, then &quot;more than 2, but fewer than many&quot;, then &quot;being a great many&quot;... I think they need to re-evaluate their definition :D" CreationDate="2012-02-03T20:49:55.383" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="311" PostId="159" Score="3" Text="@Sardathrion: Not all competition need take place in tournament format. Randori and free-sparring can serve adequately if properly trained." CreationDate="2012-02-03T20:54:37.270" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="312" PostId="280" Score="2" Text="Capoeira is another good example of #4." CreationDate="2012-02-03T21:52:48.170" UserId="84" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="313" PostId="280" Score="0" Text="@RobZ: I notice it tends to be a rather unknown skill set. Not quite as rare as, say, tosuijutsu (combative swimming), but surprisingly under appreciated." CreationDate="2012-02-03T22:43:40.587" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="314" PostId="57" Score="4" Text="@Rob Z - And that's why the good Lord gave us mothers. :-)" CreationDate="2012-02-03T22:54:48.177" UserId="54" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="315" PostId="243" Score="0" Text="That's what I came here to say. Well played." CreationDate="2012-02-03T22:57:09.017" UserId="54" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="316" PostId="268" Score="3" Text="I just have to say that flinches are an automatic behaviour of the body's nervous system. They are absolutely not based on fear." CreationDate="2012-02-03T23:08:29.370" UserId="54" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="317" PostId="268" Score="0" Text="@SimonPeterChappell - Though flinches can be an automatic behaviour of the nervous system (the lizard brain response), they can also be based on fear (the monkey brain response)." CreationDate="2012-02-03T23:26:47.727" UserId="16" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="318" PostId="267" Score="2" Text="It's funny... What you called &quot;playing ninja&quot; was how I first learned blind-fighting. That led to, after a period of time and successful performance, donning a blindfold and having to perceive the sounds, feelings, etc. around us." CreationDate="2012-02-03T23:37:32.613" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="319" PostId="268" Score="0" Text="1. Make a quick, nervous movement of the face or body as an instinctive reaction to surprise, fear or pain (she flinched at the acidity in his voice / he had faced death without flinching)" CreationDate="2012-02-03T23:37:37.717" UserId="10" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="320" PostId="191" Score="4" Text="I don't think this question is answerable.  &quot;Documented&quot;, &quot;Eastern&quot; and &quot;Martial Art&quot; would all have to be carefully defined.  For example, does a club count?" CreationDate="2012-02-04T01:48:56.367" UserId="121" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="321" PostId="245" Score="1" Text="Breaking their posture is key - try to get an arm around their head/neck and pull them in. As a bonus, there are some nifty lapel chokes from here as well." CreationDate="2012-02-04T03:13:42.627" UserId="122" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="322" PostId="293" Score="0" Text="I would avoid asking a &quot;yes/no&quot; type question and rephrase your question to ask what the long-term benefits and negative effects of practicing martial arts are on your joints." CreationDate="2012-02-04T04:03:33.000" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="323" PostId="267" Score="0" Text="Yep, we did that too. Good times." CreationDate="2012-02-04T04:24:18.220" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="324" PostId="124" Score="1" Text="+1 for mentioning running as an option, and for the zombieland reference, of course ;-)" CreationDate="2012-02-04T06:54:03.553" UserId="129" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="325" PostId="300" Score="1" Text="(side topic - my daughter, at 4 years old, on the podium winning a gold after beating all the boys in a county competition, had the **biggest** grin I have ever seen. Kids love competition.)" CreationDate="2012-02-04T10:22:50.973" UserId="57" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="326" PostId="159" Score="0" Text="@stslavik: Okay, that is a fair point." CreationDate="2012-02-04T15:00:40.277" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="328" PostId="293" Score="3" Text="Anecdotal evidence is not worth the paper it is printed on." CreationDate="2012-02-04T15:18:08.023" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="329" PostId="264" Score="0" Text="@stslavik I would love to hear the story of Seki-ryu Hojutsu, or even some good links about them. Sounds like fun :-D" CreationDate="2012-02-04T15:39:17.870" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="330" PostId="268" Score="1" Text="The Duke says that bravery is being afraid and saddling up anyway. I'm sticking with a flinch being an automatic reaction to physical stimulus. These reactions can, with dedicated effort, be trained out or trained in, so that tends to discount the fear stimulus." CreationDate="2012-02-04T15:56:37.513" UserId="54" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="333" PostId="244" Score="0" Text="The insight is sound though I'm not so sure about the drill. +1 anyways." CreationDate="2012-02-04T16:49:58.593" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="334" PostId="268" Score="1" Text="@SimonPeterChappell Flinches come from fear. Fear is fundamentally the instinct to avoid danger and we're biologically wired to avoid pain. Bad technique, lack of strength, and surprise all fall out from avoidance." CreationDate="2012-02-04T16:51:34.507" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="337" PostId="302" Score="0" Text="Not true. If you do something that damages your body, it is something you shouldn't be doing. The fact that some arts damage the body over time indicates, to me, that they are not arts one should be studying at all." CreationDate="2012-02-04T17:30:12.897" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="338" PostId="191" Score="3" Text="@BobCross I think it is answerable. It's just a hard question. :)" CreationDate="2012-02-04T17:36:48.647" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="342" PostId="191" Score="1" Text="@Trevoke, unless the terms are defined well, this question is just a little too loose.  For example, I could say &quot;blunt instrument bashing&quot; or &quot;archery&quot; and you'd have a hard time arguing that anything else is &quot;older.&quot;" CreationDate="2012-02-05T04:22:34.790" UserId="121" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="343" PostId="191" Score="0" Text="&quot;Blunt instrument bashing&quot; would not qualify as a martial art -- and &quot;archery&quot; might." CreationDate="2012-02-05T06:13:24.793" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="345" PostId="50" Score="6" Text="I really hope this will be the kind of site where published studies and empirical data are used whenever possible in answers.  The martial arts has a terrible reputation for saying &quot;this technique is too deadly to actually gather data on, just trust me.&quot; Althought MMA has devolved into a sport, it started as a means of combating this type of epistemic viciousness (http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~grussell/epistemicviciousness.pdf)" CreationDate="2012-02-05T13:54:00.627" UserId="114" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="346" PostId="302" Score="1" Text="@Trevoke: Of course, you are right.  What I meant that **accidents happen** and damage your ...  Answer edited." CreationDate="2012-02-05T15:29:21.100" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="348" PostId="292" Score="0" Text="Im fairly certain i've been &quot;trained&quot; to flinch as well, from a night job and a bored boss and a couple years.&#xA;I think its sounding like I just need to get someone to do the same thing to me as they did with you." CreationDate="2012-02-05T16:52:43.970" UserId="61" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="350" PostId="302" Score="2" Text="Now, I wish I could disagree with you, but I know it's true :(" CreationDate="2012-02-05T17:07:10.660" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="351" PostId="191" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke, okay, then at what point did a club cease to be a blunt instrument of no interest and become a Bo staff or equivalent?" CreationDate="2012-02-05T17:08:44.827" UserId="121" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="352" PostId="191" Score="0" Text="@BobCross You _were_ baiting me with the word 'bashing'. I think that train of thought is invalid because it requires a lot of changes. From 'bashing' to developing drills, footwork, etc." CreationDate="2012-02-05T17:14:04.990" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="353" PostId="196" Score="0" Text="That is suspect indeed, because the history of Japanese writing is not that old: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanji#History" CreationDate="2012-02-05T17:14:58.750" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="354" PostId="308" Score="0" Text="I refer you to this question: http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/69/which-muscles-do-i-use-to-stand --- The answer to your question derives from that one." CreationDate="2012-02-05T17:15:58.933" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="356" PostId="216" Score="0" Text="How important is your own balance versus gaining a little bit of reach? It's a personal or stylistic choice." CreationDate="2012-02-03T21:36:57.610" UserId="83" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="360" PostId="105" Score="2" Text="I didn't downvote. However, there are &quot;external&quot; arts that &quot;focus on using the leverage of the relaxed body to control an opponent.&quot; In other words, this does not describe the difference very well." CreationDate="2012-02-06T02:34:42.793" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="362" PostId="204" Score="2" Text="@WilliamMioch I've practiced xingyiquan and baguazhang both slow and fast. Slow practice is not exclusive to taijiquan, or even Chinese arts. So slow vs. fast is not a good description for internal vs. external." CreationDate="2012-02-06T02:40:53.143" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="363" PostId="283" Score="0" Text="We're trending off-topic, but I find this response fascinating. Do you know of any good on-line resources which go into these nuances of posture in more detail?" CreationDate="2012-02-06T02:56:51.757" UserId="48" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="365" PostId="171" Score="0" Text="While those are very effective fighting styles, they are primarily meant for controlled environments. The issues with using them for self defense can be found more in detail here http://masadatactical.blogspot.com/2011/12/why-what-you-train-in-matters.html&#xA;but in short, I would recommend Krav Maga or ICS (Israeli Combat System) for being much more practical on the street. Being a 3 year Krav Maga / ICS student, I can tell you it is not incredibly difficult to learn, it just requires a certain mindset that you keep fighting no mater what happens, (even in training)." CreationDate="2012-02-06T03:57:46.293" UserId="12" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="366" PostId="183" Score="1" Text="what do you mean Krav maga &quot;maybe&quot;?" CreationDate="2012-02-06T04:05:30.370" UserId="12" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="368" PostId="318" Score="1" Text="What about twisting the knee because your hips don't rotate sufficiently?" CreationDate="2012-02-06T04:21:12.747" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="369" PostId="310" Score="0" Text="Very good suggestions, will be trying these." CreationDate="2012-02-06T05:23:11.670" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="370" PostId="309" Score="0" Text="My current art has a lot of structural similarity to aikido in this respect, and uses some of the same concepts of energy. Certainly something I can focus on more." CreationDate="2012-02-06T05:25:03.587" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="371" PostId="162" Score="0" Text="Personally, I prefer gi-less jits over traditional. Traditional can be applied to a jacket and jeans situation (wherein one can use gi based techniques via a jacket or pants), but I prefer to not rely on clothing for attacks. I do both traditional and gi-less, but I just find gi-less more useful... especially since I live in a place where board shorts are much more common than slacks." CreationDate="2012-02-06T06:03:08.763" UserId="66" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="372" PostId="317" Score="0" Text="&quot;The best thing to do in a real fight is to stay off the ground!&quot; I disagree with that as a blanket statement. There are times you want to stay off the ground, but there are times TO go to the ground." CreationDate="2012-02-06T06:05:05.147" UserId="66" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="374" PostId="315" Score="2" Text="It's not controversial - it's actually well documented that the above answer is the origin of the terms. Does it reflect current meaning? Maybe not." CreationDate="2012-02-06T13:04:03.080" UserId="83" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="376" PostId="324" Score="0" Text="+1 for Shioda's book, -1 for Westbrook and Ratti.  Even thought the illustrations are good, the content is confusing and in some cases inaccurate." CreationDate="2012-02-06T14:18:09.697" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="377" PostId="178" Score="6" Text="+1 for Rory Miller.  Also 'Meditations in Violence'" CreationDate="2012-02-06T14:46:15.803" UserId="142" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="378" PostId="318" Score="0" Text="@Ho-ShengHsiao I daresay you have answered your own question :) I'll edit and add things to my answer, it might be too long for a comment." CreationDate="2012-02-06T16:06:20.793" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="379" PostId="112" Score="0" Text="Also see:   http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/271/what-are-good-exercises-for-strengthening-knees-to-hold-stances-better" CreationDate="2012-02-06T16:12:48.773" UserId="142" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="381" PostId="171" Score="1" Text="IMO none of the arts listed are &quot;self-defense&quot; arts. If you want to learn self-defense, study self-defense. Any of the listed (and many others) are an adjunct, but the time required to build usable skills makes them inefficient if the *primary* goal is self-defense." CreationDate="2012-02-06T16:24:31.613" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="382" PostId="317" Score="6" Text="@Ginamin - &quot;Stay off the ground&quot; is good advice.  If you &quot;get taken to the ground or fall over&quot; then GET RIGHT BACK UP AGAIN.  &#xA;Don't use a drop to the ground as strategy.  HOWEVER, if you get taken to the ground (and, yes, many fights will) and you can't get up (you're pinned), then having a good ground game is very advantageous and that is where MMA/BJJ is useful - BUT GET UP AGAIN!" CreationDate="2012-02-06T16:28:01.907" UserId="142" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="383" PostId="318" Score="1" Text="Hey now, I don't poke holes in your naive-questioning-tactic :-) Now here's something I have not really explored: what about ankles? It has less freedom-of-movement than the femoral socket, but more than knees." CreationDate="2012-02-06T16:31:34.940" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="384" PostId="325" Score="5" Text="The *-jutsu* does not, in and of itself, make for a martial art. Further study of the Japanese language will show other cases where *-jutsu* is used to describe other skills (*saiminjutsu* means hypnosis, and *taijutsu* only means body skills, which can apply to the skills used by a prostitute or a baker in their day to day lives just as easily as a martial artist; the very reason that we describe our art as *ninpo taijutsu* or *budo taijutsu*)" CreationDate="2012-02-06T16:36:01.893" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="385" PostId="202" Score="0" Text="Ha! This makes sense." CreationDate="2012-02-06T16:37:07.710" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="386" PostId="318" Score="0" Text="*chuckle* It was a good question." CreationDate="2012-02-06T16:40:42.140" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="387" PostId="283" Score="1" Text="@Rophuine: In attempting to maintain topic, I can point you to Kono Yoshinori (甲野善紀) as the martial artist from whom I first became acquainted with *Nanba* as an aspect of *kobujutsu*. As for *Nanba*, the best online resource is [here](http://www.nanbanote.com/nanba-arts/). Beyond that, I can only say research anatomy." CreationDate="2012-02-06T16:41:34.243" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="389" PostId="196" Score="1" Text="Indeed. I never said that it was true, after all the scrolls are said to be handed down from some aspect of Amaterasu or something. The Japanese love their folklore, however, and many, many arts have fictional/mythological characters included in their lineages." CreationDate="2012-02-06T16:44:52.083" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="390" PostId="318" Score="0" Text="@Ho-ShengHsiao the ankles are useful to absorb the energy from the start or end of a movement - for the ground and the direction. Imagine how painful it would be to start a sudden movement if the ankle weren't there to absorb that." CreationDate="2012-02-06T16:45:28.530" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="391" PostId="196" Score="1" Text="*chuckle* for that matter, so do the Chinese ;-)" CreationDate="2012-02-06T16:45:52.833" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="392" PostId="264" Score="0" Text="There's not much in English. The best resources for an introduction to relatively unknown arts were a series of videos produced in the 80s for the Japanese education system called ***[Nihon no Kobudo](http://www.budovideos.com/shop/customer/product.php?productid=19494&amp;cat=&amp;page=1)***." CreationDate="2012-02-06T16:47:02.067" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="393" PostId="196" Score="1" Text="Interesting. I have no frame of reference for Chinese martial arts; the closest I studied was Kung-fu San-Soo for a short time. I suspect this is common when looking at historical documents for any lineage through extremely superstitious periods of history." CreationDate="2012-02-06T16:49:26.743" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="394" PostId="329" Score="2" Text="This is a commonly misconceived question, but perhaps one that should become community wiki, so I'll post in that manner below." CreationDate="2012-02-06T16:59:37.933" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="395" PostId="183" Score="0" Text="I mean &quot;I'm not sure about that&quot;" CreationDate="2012-02-06T17:00:54.163" UserId="10" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="397" PostId="45" Score="0" Text="I've been the recipient of this advice several times..." CreationDate="2012-02-06T17:13:05.907" UserId="142" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="398" PostId="330" Score="3" Text="Please review the [faq](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/faq) about questions which solicit opinion and debate. I don't see a way that this question can be asked that will not solicit that kind of response." CreationDate="2012-02-06T17:15:26.930" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="399" PostId="294" Score="3" Text="It's not worth writing an answer to add this: Squeeze tennis balls until they deflate. It's simple, easy, and results in a wickedly strong relaxed grip. Gripping hard with intention actually makes your grip weaker." CreationDate="2012-02-06T17:20:20.997" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="400" PostId="330" Score="4" Text="There is also a thread for discussing [the topicality of recommendation questions](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/42/topicality-of-what-martial-art-should-i-practice-and-similar-suggestion-quest). I think the question could be better phrased as &quot;what do I need to keep in mind/look for when choosing a martial art as a bouncer?&quot;" CreationDate="2012-02-06T17:27:37.243" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="402" PostId="337" Score="6" Text="What about being able to control a hostile attacker without damaging him? A significant portion of a bouncers' work has to do with keeping drunk people from hurting themselves, and others, without hurting them (or getting hurt) in the process." CreationDate="2012-02-06T17:33:05.377" UserId="146" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="403" PostId="337" Score="0" Text="Sure, but from my perspective that doesn't significantly impact the art you choose.  Good conditioning, knowledge of locks and strikes, etc and then you make a decision in the situation the degree of force that is warranted." CreationDate="2012-02-06T17:38:28.167" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="404" PostId="140" Score="0" Text="Yes, yes, yes. The more active you keep youngsters, the more fun they have and the less they play up because they're bored. I used to help teach an under-11's class and also an 11-16 class, so I've also learned this from experience." CreationDate="2012-02-06T17:39:25.210" UserId="54" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="405" PostId="337" Score="0" Text="Do most/all martial arts train their students in the self control required in order to, for example, be able to pull punches as warranted, or be able to think clearly in the heat of the moment?" CreationDate="2012-02-06T17:40:36.737" UserId="146" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="406" PostId="337" Score="0" Text="If you know of additional criteria, then feel free to list the things you already know you are looking for in your question.  You should also always talk to the instructor of any art you are taking to see if that individual instructor can help you in those aspects." CreationDate="2012-02-06T17:42:51.407" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="407" PostId="281" Score="0" Text="This is a very interesting approach. My karate style prohibits standing on the ball of the foot, instead demanding full foot stances while kicking. Your answer may get me to kick better, yet get some critical questions. :)" CreationDate="2012-02-06T17:46:35.277" UserId="139" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="409" PostId="330" Score="1" Text="This could work, and it does change the question, but without losing too much of the original intent. Nicely done @DavidH.Clements" CreationDate="2012-02-06T18:03:50.957" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="410" PostId="332" Score="1" Text="Can you please explain in which art you're training? The *furigata* of Kukishin-ryu, for instance, makes use of the whole length of the staff, and the arms keep your pointing toward the center. I believe other arts have different methods." CreationDate="2012-02-06T18:08:08.347" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="412" PostId="277" Score="3" Text="For completeness' sake, the title means &quot;Treatise containing the secrets of the first book on the sword by itself, mother of all weapons, which are dagger, cloak, targe, shield, rondel, two-handed sword and dual swords, with its drawings, having arms in hand to defend and attack at the same time from the strikes that can be given, as well as attacker as defender, useful and profitable to master the nobility and servants of Mars: redacted by art, order and practice." CreationDate="2012-02-06T18:14:27.547" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="413" PostId="277" Score="0" Text="Indeed. The point seemed moot when &quot;The Three Musketeers&quot; was written in French (I presume to differentiate itself from a similarly named candy bar produced by the Mars corporation)." CreationDate="2012-02-06T18:23:10.500" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="414" PostId="333" Score="2" Text="The Okinawans had a number of arts called Tii (Te, now), generally named for the region from which they were taught (Naha-Te stemmed from the Naha region, etc.). These were largely influenced by fighting styles learned from the Chinese they were trading with." CreationDate="2012-02-06T18:27:02.677" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="416" PostId="327" Score="6" Text="If the students weren't aware that karate originated in Okinawa, did they have a different idea of what the history was or were they just ignorant of it?" CreationDate="2012-02-06T18:37:20.200" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="418" PostId="318" Score="0" Text="Hmmmm, interesting." CreationDate="2012-02-06T18:39:59.713" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="420" PostId="333" Score="0" Text="Well, I did not want to rewrite what was in the Wiki article :-)" CreationDate="2012-02-06T18:47:17.240" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="421" PostId="332" Score="0" Text="Is staff twirling a part of that art?" CreationDate="2012-02-06T20:50:59.523" UserId="146" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="422" PostId="327" Score="0" Text="As far as I could tell, they used the word &quot;karate&quot; to refer to any home grown martial arts system, and assumed that each corner of the world has its own." CreationDate="2012-02-06T20:52:28.057" UserId="146" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="423" PostId="332" Score="0" Text="&quot;staff twirling&quot;, by which I believe you mean menacing (using the quick back and forth movements of the staff to build momentum and create distance) is called *furigata* in Kukishin-ryu Bojutsu. I'm asking from which art you're learning to use a staff so as better to direct the answer." CreationDate="2012-02-06T21:20:32.403" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="424" PostId="332" Score="0" Text="Cool! I'm learning as part of a yuan style tai-chi class" CreationDate="2012-02-06T21:54:47.970" UserId="146" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="425" PostId="281" Score="0" Text="@RubenTavernier, I'm not saying that you should be up on your tiptoes.  I'm saying that when you rotate your bottom foot (e.g., for side kick, my bottom heel needs to end up pointed towards the target), I should rotate on the ball of that foot, not the heel.  For true power, my bottom heel may end up resting lightly on the mat but the strength of the foot for balance is near the toes." CreationDate="2012-02-06T22:07:15.403" UserId="121" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="426" PostId="332" Score="0" Text="Interesting. I'm not familiar with a Yuan-style Taijiquan. Perhaps someone who is will be able to help you. I'm going to edit your question to include that little bit of information to better help your answerers." CreationDate="2012-02-06T22:07:16.307" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="428" PostId="347" Score="0" Text="I can usually get a 180º rotation on my planted leg and get my hips turned. I can replicate the pain when doing the splits, my abductors are not tight or strained, but some muscle group or ligament on the outside of the hip is. I can't see to get it stretched out well to increase flexibility." CreationDate="2012-02-07T00:03:03.973" UserId="51" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="429" PostId="350" Score="1" Text="do you have any video examples of these exercises?" CreationDate="2012-02-07T00:04:34.267" UserId="51" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="430" PostId="315" Score="0" Text="@Ho-ShengHsiao I'd be interested to read some more into this if someone can provide some references or places to look. The only other thing I can really find on this topic, other then the normal line of thinking, is that Internal/External were more of a advertising tactic. But I always figured that meant they were trying to advertise the 'stronger' art. Could very well be that I misunderstood and they were advertising domestic verses foreign. Very interesting." CreationDate="2012-02-07T00:34:46.777" UserId="51" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="432" PostId="315" Score="0" Text="@Ho-ShengHsiao Thanks for the link. Might take you up on the PM offer, always great to learn something new!" CreationDate="2012-02-07T00:56:47.647" UserId="51" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="433" PostId="317" Score="0" Text="@Guy The reason I say that is most fights that are 1v1, which does happen, end up on the ground. In a 1 v many, the ground is a very bad idea. But, I will say, whenever anyone pulls a stance that looks like they know what they are doing on their feet, I go for a take down." CreationDate="2012-02-07T02:15:09.423" UserId="66" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="435" PostId="315" Score="1" Text="Hi Trevoke - see the first paragraph under history for a start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neijia" CreationDate="2012-02-07T03:35:23.863" UserId="83" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="436" PostId="338" Score="1" Text="Hey, a better way to find the centre is to hold the staff in between your index fingers and thumbs, with the palms of both hands facing each other. Slide both hands together slowly - they will meet in the centre point by weight. This is especially useful if your staff is uneven or has a weight on one end like a spear head." CreationDate="2012-02-07T03:56:14.570" UserId="83" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="437" PostId="126" Score="0" Text="Although your question is well intended, it is more about teaching than martial arts per se" CreationDate="2012-02-07T05:04:42.577" UserId="134" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="438" PostId="317" Score="0" Text="@Guy Also, if you read my above response, I do say in a 1 v many, a takedown will get you a kick in the head. But, 1 v many situations don't ALWAYS happen, and I've seen too many wrestlers dominate some bloke who could box or did MMA, or what have you to say that a ground game is a bad idea. There is a time and a place for most techniques. The key to winning is knowing which technique to apply in which situation." CreationDate="2012-02-07T07:13:37.453" UserId="66" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="439" PostId="317" Score="1" Text="@Ginamin - Don't get me wrong, I agree that you need a wide toolbox of techniques.  There are no absolutes, especially when your discussing on the internet - 'what if' is a never ending game.  For my body shape (tall and skinny), I can be quite a handful when my back is on the ground (all arms and legs!), but going back to the original question, I can't recommend going to the ground as a self defense strategy. It's not about 'winning', its survival." CreationDate="2012-02-07T08:16:06.947" UserId="142" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="440" PostId="281" Score="1" Text="Thanks for elucidating! That will be a new area for personal research." CreationDate="2012-02-07T09:48:07.090" UserId="139" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="441" PostId="329" Score="0" Text="Buy a whistle.  Instant improvement of self defence with minimal training and cost." CreationDate="2012-02-07T11:42:04.330" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="442" PostId="349" Score="1" Text="+1, but I wanted to add that the mouth guard will generally have to be reformed after any dental work of note (e.g. some fillings, crowns, etc) and that depending on your age your teeth have a natural tendency to have some &quot;drift&quot; which can cause the fit to change." CreationDate="2012-02-07T12:34:18.753" UserId="46" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="444" PostId="269" Score="0" Text="I really want to pick this as the answer, but it only talks about one purpose at the moment." CreationDate="2012-02-07T13:37:24.573" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="445" PostId="269" Score="0" Text="ROFL!! ~~~~~~~~&#xA;&#xA;Thanks for the edit though. :-)" CreationDate="2012-02-07T14:23:29.130" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="446" PostId="350" Score="0" Text="No, sorry. :(  I'll try and find something though..." CreationDate="2012-02-07T14:31:22.737" UserId="33" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="447" PostId="327" Score="0" Text="That's sort of what the term &quot;kung fu&quot; is like too  (which can also be used in contexts unrelated to martial arts). It's a colloquial term that encompasses a wide breadth of systems and styles instead of one &quot;kung fu&quot; type, so I wonder if &quot;karate&quot; is like that too." CreationDate="2012-02-07T14:37:30.613" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="448" PostId="361" Score="0" Text="Some competitions take into account spirit and energy in judging your form. The sprited yell will manifest physically in your technique like you said which shows who you are as a martial artist. If you want to perform at your maximum capability, why would you hold back in that case?" CreationDate="2012-02-07T15:33:03.740" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="449" PostId="361" Score="1" Text="Oh man, I wish I had been to competitions where real skill was taken into account! Maybe it wouldn't have disgusted me." CreationDate="2012-02-07T15:39:54.887" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="450" PostId="362" Score="0" Text="Yeah but that's such a low-level answer... If the kiai is actually a &quot;remember-to-breathe&quot; training for your style, I argue your style is lacking a breathing training :-)" CreationDate="2012-02-07T15:40:50.113" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="451" PostId="362" Score="2" Text="We don't tend to use kiai at all and certainly would get a stern look from the judges if we used it in randori.  It never has officially been described as a &quot;remember to breath&quot; technique but does serve as one nonetheless ^_~" CreationDate="2012-02-07T15:50:12.947" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="452" PostId="362" Score="0" Text="Quite a good point :)" CreationDate="2012-02-07T16:06:07.990" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="453" PostId="317" Score="0" Text="@Ginamin - The other problem with fighting on the ground is not just a problem with fighting one on many. If your opponent has a knife, it is much harder to defend against it on the ground since you are forced to stay close to your attacker. If you were standing, you have the option to dodge the knife, instead of just blocking it, as I don't know how much stronger my opponent may be than me. In addition, if I put someone in an armbar, if they have a knife, instead of submitting they can take it out and cut at anything they have access to (legs, stomach, etc)" CreationDate="2012-02-07T17:07:26.370" UserId="12" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="456" PostId="357" Score="2" Text="While what you wrote is absolutely true, it does not answer the question :)" CreationDate="2012-02-07T18:24:55.890" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="458" PostId="349" Score="0" Text="This is also the reason the boil and bite mouth guards tend to be more popular than dental injection molded custom fabricated guards. They're prohibitively expensive for most purposes, and not worth the cost difference when the boil and bite offer equivalent protection, if less permanent fit." CreationDate="2012-02-07T19:13:50.187" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="459" PostId="354" Score="1" Text="The boil &amp; bite mouth guard do not offer significantly less protection than the dental manufactured, and at a significantly less price, tend to be a far superior solution for the avid amateur. If you're a professional athlete making 8 figures a year, it's reasonable; if you're like me, you stick to the off-the-shelf variety and learn the best ways to make them work." CreationDate="2012-02-07T19:16:07.923" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="461" PostId="318" Score="0" Text="I just made it up, to be honest, but the more I think about it the more I want to play with it. Heck! I'm gonna make that a REAL question." CreationDate="2012-02-07T19:49:09.590" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="462" PostId="369" Score="2" Text="What exactly are you looking for with the answer here?" CreationDate="2012-02-07T19:58:45.473" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="463" PostId="369" Score="0" Text="I'm looking for the purpose of the ankles. It's a joint, a part of the body, and it can be ignored, misused, or used. I'm not sure how to answer your question without rewriting the question I wrote." CreationDate="2012-02-07T20:11:04.603" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="464" PostId="327" Score="5" Text="&quot;Kung Fu&quot; actually just means &quot;hard work&quot; (that is, it is the characters &quot;Time&quot; and &quot;Effort&quot;). Karate means &quot;Empty hand&quot; or &quot;Chinese hand&quot; -- so it's not quite the same thing at all. Anything into which you put time and effort represents Kung Fu. Someone who spends his entire life painstakingly creating matchstick models does kung fu, as @MattChan indicated. The correct chinese term is 'Chuan Fa': http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuan_fa" CreationDate="2012-02-07T20:20:48.240" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="465" PostId="350" Score="0" Text="Thanks @BenCole I'll give your steps a shot! But being a visual learner it can be hard to translate the steps into actions." CreationDate="2012-02-07T20:21:33.237" UserId="51" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="466" PostId="354" Score="0" Text="The self forming boil and bite ones that I've bought conform very well to my my mouth. So much so that they don't move or fall out when I'm moving a lot, or breathing deeply. Would an orthodontist  one be recommended for everyone, or just people with special dental conditions, i.e. false teeth, bridges, etc." CreationDate="2012-02-07T20:27:04.350" UserId="51" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="467" PostId="369" Score="3" Text="@Trevoke: You might need to restate the question. I'm not clear, either, on what type of information you are looking for. When you say &quot;maximize benefit,&quot; maximize the benefit of what? When asking, think in terms of what problem you are trying to solve and ask the question from *that* point of view. As asked, I think users may have to guess what type of information would actually help you." CreationDate="2012-02-07T20:36:18.563" UserId="59" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="469" PostId="369" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke I think the title of the question &quot;What are the ankles good for?&quot; is throwing people. Maybe it should be something like &quot;Proper Ankle Usage/Form while kicking?&quot; Or along those lines. At a biomechanical level the Ankle is an important joint, so it's good for giving us the ability to be bipedal j/k :-)." CreationDate="2012-02-07T20:55:47.597" UserId="51" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="470" PostId="360" Score="5" Text="Our sensei explained that it also allows him to be sure you are breathing, as a fair number of people when starting out seem to have trouble remembering to breathe throughout a technique." CreationDate="2012-02-07T21:05:07.687" UserId="167" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="471" PostId="350" Score="0" Text="Absolutely!  I have the same problem, and I'm sorry I don't have a visual for this.  I'll keep looking though, and if nothing else I'll try to find a camera and take some myself!" CreationDate="2012-02-07T21:06:44.190" UserId="33" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="472" PostId="350" Score="1" Text="Also, you should couple this with knee exercises for both flexibility and strength, as that's most likely your next weak point, legs-wise." CreationDate="2012-02-07T21:07:52.207" UserId="33" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="474" PostId="350" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the tip, I already do some basic knee exercises due to an injury, but I'm sure I don't do enough." CreationDate="2012-02-07T21:11:37.180" UserId="51" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="475" PostId="354" Score="1" Text="@stslavik, I paid the equivalent of approx US$50 for my moulded mouthguard (and dentistry is expensive in this country), and it is still serving me well a decade later. I'm not slagging the boil &amp; bites, but after going through many of them with my kid who plays rugby I know the different brands have differing quality and the moulded ones are a good investment if you can afford it." CreationDate="2012-02-07T21:23:29.987" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="477" PostId="354" Score="1" Text="@Swift, everyone has a different shaped mouth - you might be lucky to have a reasonably well formed teeth and gum line so you don't have too many problems with the boil &amp; bites. Because the moulded ones are made to fit your specific teeth structure they are good for people with not-so-consistent teeth/gum structure. With mine I could jump round like a crazed monkey and it wouldn't move." CreationDate="2012-02-07T21:27:03.540" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="479" PostId="354" Score="0" Text="@slugster Good to know, thanks! I have a friend with a smaller mouth and he has some issue with fit on the self forming ones. I'll pass your suggestion along." CreationDate="2012-02-07T21:28:57.637" UserId="51" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="481" PostId="268" Score="1" Text="Like @Ho-ShengHsiao said flinching is a fear reaction from stimulus, but it's the brain and nervous system that does the reaction. So Simon is partially correct. WebMD has a decent article on it: http://men.webmd.com/news/20040820/what-makes-you-flinch" CreationDate="2012-02-07T21:50:48.850" UserId="51" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="482" PostId="368" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the link, I'll defiantly try some of those out." CreationDate="2012-02-07T21:54:07.673" UserId="51" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="483" PostId="60" Score="1" Text="I always wear an undershirt and I've found that helps a fair amount with any armpit discoloration, but it never helped with my neck, or sleeves, just because they don't get the additional protection of the undershirt." CreationDate="2012-02-07T21:59:26.650" UserId="51" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="484" PostId="374" Score="0" Text="Any particular brand that you would recommend?" CreationDate="2012-02-07T22:02:12.043" UserId="51" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="485" PostId="373" Score="9" Text="My concern with aikido is the amount of training time required to become proficient with it, otherwise, I'd consider it. Mind you, I disagree that it's all about controlling someone without harming them - it is also an art with very, very violent moves - they're just fairly gentle at the same time :-)" CreationDate="2012-02-07T22:02:33.263" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="486" PostId="364" Score="2" Text="Excellent answer IMO. I'd like to add a small elaboration: in traditional styles initially the kiai is taught to beginners to help promote ki flow, for the more advanced practitioner the different types of kiai are used to change the nature of ki flow." CreationDate="2012-02-07T22:02:49.783" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="487" PostId="3" Score="1" Text="Please consider choosing an answer." CreationDate="2012-02-07T22:03:13.263" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="488" PostId="374" Score="2" Text="I used https://www.amas.co.nz/custom.cfm?&amp;action=order&amp;categoryid=8&amp;subcatid=43&amp;itemid=567   but they seem &quot;no brand&quot; ish" CreationDate="2012-02-07T22:05:03.400" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="489" PostId="374" Score="0" Text="also been at a couple of different dojos that use similar but not quite the same rubber interlocking mats, also quite good.   But then maybe I'm not that fussy :)" CreationDate="2012-02-07T22:09:30.337" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="490" PostId="364" Score="1" Text="@slugster: Appreciated. I have issues with explaining things in metaphysical terms, which is why I stayed purposefully vague in that respect. Psychology I can handle; metaphysical energies just make me uneasy, as I feel they tend to be used as a copout." CreationDate="2012-02-07T22:10:31.983" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="491" PostId="374" Score="0" Text="I tried some mats that looked like those, but they were more of weight mats by Golds Gym and it turned me off of them. They kept separating on me while doing flows. I will have to take a look at those again and ensure they are good for martial arts activities." CreationDate="2012-02-07T22:13:21.683" UserId="51" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="492" PostId="374" Score="3" Text="the only issue I ever had was my toe nail go caught in a gap a few times and it was a bit ouchy, but I should of cut my nails :)" CreationDate="2012-02-07T22:16:35.633" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="494" PostId="365" Score="2" Text="Your *ssshhh* sound is still a form of kiai - it is normal for people to develop their own personalized kiai and for it to change depending on what they are doing." CreationDate="2012-02-07T22:21:38.777" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="495" PostId="369" Score="0" Text="the question seems way too broad to be able to answer. If your question was &quot;whats the ankles role in a front kick&quot;  then maybe it would be easier.   It also seems the question is biased in that you partly ask a question and then move into a discussion and answer already." CreationDate="2012-02-07T22:30:14.133" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="496" PostId="369" Score="2" Text="@Trevoke: This also appears to be overly broad. The ankles have different uses in different applications; just adding &quot;in martial arts&quot; doesn't make the question on topic and narrow enough. For example, the flexibility of the ankle is a requirement in targeting specific strikes and even throws in Bujinkan ninpo taijutsu, but this won't necessarily be a focused truth or application in Wado-ryu Karate." CreationDate="2012-02-07T22:31:32.387" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="497" PostId="369" Score="0" Text="@stslavik Is it a requirement that I narrow down my question to a single martial art? If I do so, I may, by ignorance, not get the answer I am looking for." CreationDate="2012-02-07T22:37:52.877" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="498" PostId="369" Score="0" Text="@trevoke I think a question should have an answer that can be accepted that covers what you were seeking in the question and doesn't require an essay of many possibilities.   If things / advice vary a lot from art to art then it may need narrowing." CreationDate="2012-02-07T22:42:59.903" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="499" PostId="369" Score="1" Text="@Trevoke: Not necessarily to a single martial art, no. You could narrow it to specifically kicking, or specifically maintaining balance while throwing. Otherwise, the question would be better suited for a different SE site, like [biology](http://biology.stackexchange.com/) or [sports](http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/27135/sports) or, in the future, [human anatomy](http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/37924/human-anatomy). It may be this needs to be closed on grounds of being a [repeat question](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/69/which-muscles-do-i-use-to-stand)." CreationDate="2012-02-07T22:44:56.130" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="500" PostId="369" Score="0" Text="@stslavik But the postural muscles in the back and legs aren't necessarily related to the ankle, though of course they are, since it's the same body. Is the question, in its current format, still not good enough to be answered?" CreationDate="2012-02-07T23:12:04.860" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="502" PostId="369" Score="0" Text="I see it as broad in its current state, though less broad than before @swift's edit. We'll see what the community thinks as a whole (the benefit of this site!)" CreationDate="2012-02-07T23:17:24.343" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="503" PostId="369" Score="0" Text="@stslavik I think &quot;What are the ankles good for? What is their most efficient use?&quot; Is part of the issue. What is efficient use? Pertaining to what? The title made the Q a little better but it still feels a little to broad, or ambiguous to answer well. I like that Trevoke narrowed it down in his example, but like you said in an earlier comment there are so many scenarios, forms and motions that the Ankle can be utilized in many ways. I'm interested to see if we can get this Q or type of Q to work well here." CreationDate="2012-02-07T23:31:14.727" UserId="51" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="507" PostId="382" Score="0" Text="Not only is it not OT, I believe that's what I am looking for :)" CreationDate="2012-02-08T02:00:30.890" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="508" PostId="383" Score="1" Text="Haven't you seen Karate Kid 2? You step back and flip them over in front of you (and somehow do not snap your neck in the process)." CreationDate="2012-02-08T02:29:13.640" UserId="9" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="509" PostId="383" Score="4" Text="****goes and paints the fence and waxes the car****" CreationDate="2012-02-08T02:30:44.643" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="510" PostId="332" Score="0" Text="Are you actually disconnecting your grip? Our &quot;twirling&quot; moves the staff in a figure-8." CreationDate="2012-02-08T02:40:35.430" UserId="179" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="511" PostId="287" Score="0" Text="I'm not a good kicker, so I'm not providing this as an answer. If I were in you I'd train flexibility alone in the home, doing the correct form of kicking at the height you can reach (waist). Do it slowly and confortably and have something to rest your feet against at the end of the movement (a wall, a door), before moving your leg back." CreationDate="2012-02-08T03:19:26.040" UserId="10" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="512" PostId="388" Score="4" Text="Don't be there Daniel-san!!!" CreationDate="2012-02-08T03:41:19.570" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="513" PostId="388" Score="0" Text="heh its (mostly) not in sparring that this happens, but when practicing on each other with pads :)" CreationDate="2012-02-08T04:09:09.280" UserId="175" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="514" PostId="317" Score="2" Text="@Ephraim I never said always go to the ground. I said that going to the ground is a good idea in some cases. If an opponent has a knife, that is the wrong time to go to the ground. If I square off with you, a krav maga fighter, I can guarantee you, I'll go for a takedown." CreationDate="2012-02-08T04:18:48.523" UserId="66" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="515" PostId="317" Score="1" Text="@Ephraim There is a time and a place for everything, as I said above. And there is definatly a time and a place for a ground-game and I think it is more often than people give it credit for. A 1vmany is not the time for one. Knife, well, that is another training regimen all together." CreationDate="2012-02-08T04:21:26.367" UserId="66" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="516" PostId="324" Score="3" Text="LOL! I only remember that I was a bit disappointed about the American style of writing of Westbrook and Ratti. But it isn't a bad book. It also has a rating of 4.8 stars out of 5 on Amazon and I think it is one of the most read book on Aikido (at least in the west) so in my opinion it's definitely a classic. &#xA;As for &quot;canonical&quot;, I agree with tacone and would like to add &quot;The Spirit of Aikido&quot; by Kisshomaru Ueshiba" CreationDate="2012-02-08T07:44:54.443" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="517" PostId="373" Score="1" Text="Aikido has strikes (atemi waza) within it.  Most other techniques can easily have either a strike or kick added to them." CreationDate="2012-02-08T07:57:34.570" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="518" PostId="357" Score="0" Text="Hello Friend, I have answered it correctly. We can't get the self defense very quickly" CreationDate="2012-02-08T08:02:15.583" UserId="119" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="519" PostId="322" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the links! British Aikido board does give a some insight into popularity. I also found a similar website for [Aikido dojo's in the Netherlands](http://www.aikidonederland.nl/dojos.html) myself. Still would like to see some numbers on popularity worldwide though." CreationDate="2012-02-08T08:07:36.927" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="521" PostId="322" Score="0" Text="I am not sure that this data exists.  You could ask the different hombu dojo in Japan as they should have a list of all the yudansha that are registered with them but that gives you only shodan or above that have registered..." CreationDate="2012-02-08T08:19:24.957" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="523" PostId="135" Score="0" Text="Accepted as it is techniques that I did not know and where not the standard way of doing things." CreationDate="2012-02-08T09:38:49.477" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="524" PostId="392" Score="4" Text="That's not allowed in BJJ, though." CreationDate="2012-02-08T10:50:21.887" UserDisplayName="user189" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="525" PostId="391" Score="2" Text="That's not allowed in BJJ, though." CreationDate="2012-02-08T10:50:35.833" UserDisplayName="user189" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="527" PostId="373" Score="0" Text="Aikido strikes are not intended as strikes but a method to get the uke to move in a way that aids the technique. There is no intent to actually strike the uke." CreationDate="2012-02-08T12:29:50.057" UserId="169" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="528" PostId="172" Score="2" Text="&quot;being struck does not hurt quite so bad as we imagine it to hurt&quot; - I would argue that the greater problem is to underestimate the potential damage you take, and thus engage in a fight too easily. My Kung Fu teacher, in each and every sparring class, reminds us very vividly of the dangers involved in fights. With martial arts training and male hormones, fear is the much smaller problem." CreationDate="2012-02-08T12:38:15.063" UserId="186" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="529" PostId="357" Score="2" Text="That's not strictly true. It is possible to become efficient at self-defense (though not a very refined self-defense) rather quickly, through regular and constant training that emphasizes the right elements, like body contact, the feeling of danger, and attacks with the right intent. This is not martial arts training - it is self-defense training." CreationDate="2012-02-08T13:08:50.023" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="530" PostId="373" Score="1" Text="If aikido is an art which is limited to the word 'uke', then it will become a very beautiful choreography, but it will not remain a martial art." CreationDate="2012-02-08T13:09:59.057" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="531" PostId="382" Score="0" Text="Regarding the inner structure of the movements - if you can't explain it, can you at least come up with a useful lie that gets me on the right track? I'll take a koan, an analogy or a haiku, whatever helps you get the point across!" CreationDate="2012-02-08T13:16:12.607" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="532" PostId="382" Score="1" Text="As for footwork:&#xA;&#xA;take a stance, bend both the ankles so that you lower your position. Then bend the front foot's ankle even more so that your toes rise and your heel not. Advance the front foot while focusing of keeping your toes high and land the feet heel first.&#xA;&#xA;It's not different from the usual step practiced in Taichi and - i believe - Bagua." CreationDate="2012-02-08T13:28:37.510" UserId="10" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="535" PostId="121" Score="0" Text="Nice answer, I appreciated what you added later! :)" CreationDate="2012-02-08T15:44:03.707" UserId="94" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="536" PostId="172" Score="10" Text="There are distinct dangers in bumping your leg against a coffee table as well (the bruise resulting in a clot which dislodges only to find itself in a major artery causing an infarction). The fear of being struck can be overcome once one is struck; until such time, their presupposition is an anxiety over being struck. Part of overcoming anxiety is learning that it is: 1.) a worry over a future event that may not even happen; 2.) an embellishment of an actuality. Even anxiety over death must be faced and overcome to live a happy life *now*." CreationDate="2012-02-08T16:44:55.567" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="538" PostId="399" Score="2" Text="Keep in mind that any kind of bone conditioning has side effects, if you try the shin conditioning mentioned above, just remember to read lightly." CreationDate="2012-02-08T17:47:43.960" UserId="61" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="539" PostId="383" Score="2" Text="I figure you want BJJ-legal options, so I'm not going to post an actual answer, but this is my thought:  If someone's actually got you like this and is trying to kill/incap/whatever you, use your fingers!  Poke the eyes, rip the ears, pull at their digits, hard-massage their funny bone and other nerves!  Elbow, headbutt, squirm, hit, bite, prod, ANYTHING!  Don't EVER stop moving, and don't EVER give up!" CreationDate="2012-02-08T18:10:28.330" UserId="33" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="540" PostId="209" Score="0" Text="Add to &quot;fight/flight/freeze&quot; a fourth option &quot;posture&quot;, as proposed in &quot;On Killing&quot; by Lt. Dave Grossman. Freezing is not instinctually equivalent to submission: a deer may freeze when it hears a noise (as might humans who sit up in bed at night unable to move because they've been roused by glass breaking) in an attempt to not draw attention. Posturing can be equated to a bear rearing up on its hind legs to frighten off intruders in its territory, or a blowhard puffing out and slapping his chest like a gorilla." CreationDate="2012-02-08T18:18:16.713" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="541" PostId="404" Score="0" Text="Good answer. The only thing I would add is that try to protect your windpipe and at least one carotid artery. If you can keep pressure off say your left side it will by you valuable time without passing out. So when someone gets me in a RNC, I berry my chin into the elbow dropping it to my chest if possible and slightly lean it to a side. Depending how large there arms are even dropping the chin they might still get both carotid arteries. Shooting your hands up and in to protect the carotid arteries and create leverage while dropping the chin also helps." CreationDate="2012-02-08T18:35:59.783" UserId="51" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="542" PostId="404" Score="0" Text="@Swift: Shooting the hands in can work, but can also lead to inadvertently pressing on your own carotid artery. Be very careful!" CreationDate="2012-02-08T20:33:27.963" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="543" PostId="405" Score="2" Text="This may be too broad: If you clarify the art you're practicing, we can give you precise (relatively) origins, as it's usually traceable back to a specific religious/shamanistic practice." CreationDate="2012-02-08T20:35:09.097" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="544" PostId="405" Score="3" Text="Though in general, the gesture recognizes that you are submitting and giving respect to the person to whom you are bowing, as at that moment they could cut your head off! :)" CreationDate="2012-02-08T21:03:07.420" UserId="33" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="546" PostId="208" Score="0" Text="Even training with a real knife is simply a simulation – without the intent to harm, you're only parroting the movements, and not offering a realistic experience. Shock knives do allow you to cause temporary harm and pain, and thus allow you to give intent. Most martial artists (as demonstrated by @IaroslavKovtunenko's comment) do not know how to cut through material and will result to chopping motions; denim on a pig or on meat wrapped around a pole can teach one to cut properly – an hour of trying in, it can seem quite impressive to step up and do it with ease. It's simply a trick: Sink." CreationDate="2012-02-08T23:45:40.253" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="547" PostId="408" Score="2" Text="This, use your gi over a pull up bar.  Also go jogging with bricks (literally) in your hands.  Youll be amazed at the results." CreationDate="2012-02-09T05:56:37.613" UserDisplayName="user201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="548" PostId="411" Score="1" Text="this question, while a question, really is discussional in style...." CreationDate="2012-02-09T11:10:01.530" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="549" PostId="411" Score="0" Text="@KeithNicholas: From a point of view maybe but the question semantics mean that I am soliciting facts and not discussions, argumentations, and opinions.  Of course, I maybe wrong but I think this would be on topic and acceptable." CreationDate="2012-02-09T11:18:46.370" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="550" PostId="331" Score="1" Text="this pretty much sums it up!  great answer.   as a practitioner of both,  i must say, they are pretty much completely different arts, I cannot see a reputable school of either recognizing grades from the other.  That would be like a tkd practitioners rank being recognized by an Aikido school." CreationDate="2012-02-09T14:22:57.567" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="551" PostId="411" Score="0" Text="There are three questions here: what are the benefits of learning Aikido, what is a senpai-kohai relationship, and do you know of a western aikido dojo that actually preserves the japanese culture enough to have a good senpai-kohai relationship. I think that's too much for just one question... Please consider asking three questions instead." CreationDate="2012-02-09T16:01:59.660" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="552" PostId="417" Score="1" Text="It's also known in Taekwondo: Ready stance a, b in traditional and Bo-Jumok in WTF" CreationDate="2012-02-09T16:10:29.107" UserId="79" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="553" PostId="411" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke: Okay, I was not fully clear.  Does the edit help?" CreationDate="2012-02-09T17:01:27.873" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="554" PostId="418" Score="0" Text="The idea of salute makes sense too, as we do this in the beginning of our kempo class. Before we start any activity, we do this motion [and bow](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/405/167) in the beginning. &quot;Front position and bow&quot;, which that was how I took it was a gesture of respect - &quot;salute&quot;.  I like that explanation about the peace and aggression too. Very interesting and informative answer. Thanks!" CreationDate="2012-02-09T17:24:11.777" UserId="167" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="555" PostId="411" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion The way I read the question now, I consider it perfectly acceptable. I'm waiting for the follow-up question of &quot;how to set up a senpai/kohai relationship in an American school&quot; :-)" CreationDate="2012-02-09T18:47:59.000" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="556" PostId="413" Score="4" Text="Shaolin.com better hurry up. At 90+ years old, a Chinese monk is lucky to be alive, let alone have a good memory!" CreationDate="2012-02-09T19:30:53.750" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="557" PostId="411" Score="0" Text="Interesting... Sempai and Kohai are an organic relationship in Japanese society, stemming from societal norms of creating social structure in every facet of life... I'm curious how this will play out..." CreationDate="2012-02-09T19:44:58.903" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="558" PostId="325" Score="1" Text="I stand corrected as to the etymology of the word." CreationDate="2012-02-09T19:45:51.957" UserId="142" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="559" PostId="63" Score="0" Text="I agree from the stand point of *ninpo* being a state of mind; when one applies *ninpo* to *taijutsu*, you change the state of your approach to *taijutsu* (since *jujutsu* is a form of *budo taijutsu*, by changing your approach to the problem, but not necessarily the technique, you make it *ninpo taijutsu*). *Ninjutsu* is specifically a skill set tied into tradition (see *Shoninki* for an example of skills specific to the ninja)." CreationDate="2012-02-09T19:57:49.983" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="560" PostId="325" Score="0" Text="Sometimes I like Zhougari... Sometimes I think he's blinded by his own diagnosis. Nothing is unique, and it is true that ninjutsu does focus on surviving. There are techniques that specifically fall under the banner of *ninjutsu*, however they are not unique to the art, just as wrist locks are not unique to *jujutsu* or *aikido*." CreationDate="2012-02-09T20:00:26.827" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="561" PostId="424" Score="2" Text="This is generally a good advice for two or more body parts: move them all together at once. On the other hand, my experience with that specific double-weaving pattern is that the pattern was too difficult to learn straight-up this way. YMMV." CreationDate="2012-02-09T21:18:48.717" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="562" PostId="424" Score="1" Text="That's a good point. I remember reading that some people can understand more than they can do and some people can do more than they can understand. I fall in the latter category - I just copy the weaving pattern and eventually my brain catches up. I think all the advice you gave in your answer is at the very least a great starting point." CreationDate="2012-02-09T21:55:55.663" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="564" PostId="61" Score="0" Text="@DavidH.Clements That actually would be a pretty good format, especially since it's been used to describe taijiquan and feldenkrais already. +1 to you sir!" CreationDate="2012-02-09T23:01:15.540" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="565" PostId="153" Score="0" Text="Please consider accepting an answer for your question, or rephrasing your question if you feel the answers don't fit your need." CreationDate="2012-02-09T23:28:37.720" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="566" PostId="424" Score="0" Text="@stslavik Haha, nice little edit." CreationDate="2012-02-09T23:30:54.110" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="567" PostId="424" Score="0" Text="It wasn't mine originally. It was a suggested edited by @Ho-ShengHsiao that was in two sentences because it was unclear. The semi-colon is the appropriate device for connecting those two thoughts. My edit was part of approving that edit." CreationDate="2012-02-09T23:32:43.767" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="568" PostId="425" Score="3" Text="Not that i know of, but dance certainly does." CreationDate="2012-02-10T01:14:30.173" UserId="61" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="569" PostId="425" Score="8" Text="we are really scraping questions out of the 'odd' barrel on this site." CreationDate="2012-02-10T01:16:17.863" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="570" PostId="425" Score="0" Text="@KeithNicholas, I'm going to have to agree." CreationDate="2012-02-10T01:53:48.233" UserId="121" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="571" PostId="425" Score="3" Text="Yes - electric guitars plugged into really big amps." CreationDate="2012-02-10T02:20:35.350" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="572" PostId="426" Score="1" Text="By interpretations, are you meaning [bunkai](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunkai)?" CreationDate="2012-02-10T02:54:47.190" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="573" PostId="280" Score="0" Text="The history of guns in Japan (which were indeed introduced by the Portuguese in the 16th century, became dominate on the battle field and later almost completely disappeared) is a fascinating story told in the book [*Giving Up the Gun: Japan's Reversion to the Sword, 1543-1879* by Noel Perrin](http://www.amazon.com/Giving-Up-Gun-Reversion-1543-1879/dp/0879237732). The book has been out of print at times, but amazon seem to have some." CreationDate="2012-02-10T02:54:53.027" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="574" PostId="422" Score="0" Text="David H. Clements and Trevoke has some good stuff in their answers. Check them out." CreationDate="2012-02-10T03:37:58.840" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="575" PostId="40" Score="1" Text="@WilliamMioch: There are no Japanese sword styles that teach left handed sword work as far as I know.  I would be interested if anyone knew of one." CreationDate="2012-02-10T09:53:24.767" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="576" PostId="425" Score="2" Text="I've seen many things suggested in martial arts movies, like helicopters being knocked out of the sky with back spinning hook kicks (well, I exagerate a little) and Chuck Norris wincing after receiving a yoko tobi geri (flying side kick) to the chest (which we know could never be true). While I'm being quite cynical, the orchestral background while JCVD was solo training in the temple grounds in *Kickboxer* did inspire me... Anyhow, I'm sure MythBusters would call &quot;Busted&quot; on this one." CreationDate="2012-02-10T10:45:43.003" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="577" PostId="426" Score="0" Text="Yes, I mean bunkai." CreationDate="2012-02-10T15:59:11.400" UserId="146" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="578" PostId="431" Score="2" Text="I'll add that the specific choices does matter in one regard: enjoy what you do, even when it is tough. If you carry resentment into it , you won't receive as much as it can offer." CreationDate="2012-02-10T16:31:05.767" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="579" PostId="431" Score="0" Text="Agreed absolutely. Editing to make that point explicit." CreationDate="2012-02-10T16:33:31.177" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="580" PostId="432" Score="3" Text="This makes a rather untoward assumption that there is a correlation between muscle strength and the power of your strike. Power can actually be understood as the equation P = ((m•a)•∆s)/∆t; muscle can actually inhibit your capability to throw a punch by limiting rotation. Building overall applicable body mass is good, but flexibility makes greater changes in your speed than pushups do to body mass." CreationDate="2012-02-10T16:48:28.163" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="581" PostId="439" Score="1" Text="Re.: avoiding knowledge use by the wrong people - has the secrecy been effective?" CreationDate="2012-02-10T16:54:51.120" UserId="146" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="582" PostId="439" Score="1" Text="Given the amount of misinformation and stupid stuff around, and the amazing lack of real understanding out there, I'd say yes, it is." CreationDate="2012-02-10T17:31:27.303" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="585" PostId="422" Score="1" Text="Thanks! I appreciate the concrete suggestions, and I'll keep your and their advice in mind." CreationDate="2012-02-10T19:12:29.493" UserId="45" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="586" PostId="441" Score="0" Text="You might want to specify just how far down you go. The US Army evaluates by a fist placed under a male recruit's chest. For women, a sponge is used (which is a great option for solo training)." CreationDate="2012-02-10T19:39:29.197" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="587" PostId="422" Score="0" Text="&quot;Switch your knife and fork.&quot; – Heathen. Where are your manners! :P Do yourself a favor and do this at home alone; this can ruin a business lunch." CreationDate="2012-02-10T19:47:03.027" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="588" PostId="422" Score="0" Text="@stslavik Hmmmm, not sure I'd want to do business with someone that takes offense so easily. ... (Actually... it'd be hilarious to meet someone who is offended by switching left and right. That's an interesting pathology I'd like to observe closely ... )" CreationDate="2012-02-10T19:52:14.487" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="589" PostId="422" Score="0" Text="@RSid cool. Let us know how it goes, maybe we can improve the ideas here." CreationDate="2012-02-10T19:53:41.100" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="590" PostId="422" Score="0" Text="@Ho-ShengHsiao: They'd never be so rude to tell you that's what ruined it. Good manners show an attention to detail, as do posture and other minor details. Martial arts training can do a lot to make you better in business and personal relationships, but you should be careful about changing behaviors for martial arts that limit your potential in everyday life. I also note this because part of *ninjutsu* is blending; knowing how to appear right at home during a business meeting (attention to details included) is a must for me." CreationDate="2012-02-10T21:27:57.983" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="591" PostId="422" Score="0" Text="@stslavik I still can't tell whether you are trolling me or not, but it is good either way :-) The people who get offended like that usually have a tell. Their movements become rigid and stiff. I'm sure you'd recognize that from your early days in ninpo budo taijutsu. We've all been there as newbies.&#xA;&#xA;Good manners isn't so much about attention to detail as it is about respect and care that flows naturally out of love and acceptance. Getting caught in the details is a hilarious trap. Hope I didn't ruin your dinner just talking about this :-D" CreationDate="2012-02-10T22:20:07.273" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="592" PostId="422" Score="0" Text="Never trolling; just pointing out something that is considered proper custom, at least among many western (including American) societies. It's not about personal belief, here, but precision and accuracy of evaluating societal norms, which can be important in context. If you don't follow them, or think they are a trap, then fine, but it's technically an abnormal behavior." CreationDate="2012-02-10T22:27:53.627" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="593" PostId="422" Score="0" Text="@stslavik Well, I appreciate you pointing this out. Perhaps you'd like to create your own answer that does not include abnormal social behaviors?" CreationDate="2012-02-10T22:33:34.027" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="594" PostId="422" Score="0" Text="Nope, I wouldn't. I figured yours was good enough and felt it inappropriate to detract by adding a secondary answer that told how much I agree with your answer only to exclude that one point." CreationDate="2012-02-10T22:35:20.513" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="595" PostId="432" Score="2" Text="Your strength could be fine and the issue could be related to technique. Have you had someone of sufficient senority watching you punch both in linework and on a bag/pad to pick up any technique issues?" CreationDate="2012-02-11T00:00:21.647" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="596" PostId="17" Score="0" Text="Please consider accepting an answer." CreationDate="2012-02-11T00:10:09.530" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="597" PostId="432" Score="0" Text="@slugster - Promotion up to ni-kyu is going to be contingent upon better refinement of my technique so we have been putting them under the microscope; however, upper body strength in and of itself is a bit of an issue." CreationDate="2012-02-11T00:15:51.740" UserId="46" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="598" PostId="373" Score="0" Text="I know a guy who worked his way through college and his teaching certificate by bouncing. His formal system was aikido but he really did his own thing...very slick. Now he teaches primary school. He was very big on technique that scaled well...get the position and just keep adding force until the guy decided it was time to walk. He *wasn't* a big fan of the &quot;hit them hard&quot; theory of bouncing. I never did that so I have no opinion." CreationDate="2012-02-11T01:14:15.007" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="599" PostId="95" Score="0" Text="Thanks for this, David. I'd never filmed a class before, but I asked permission and have shot two classes since reading your suggestion. It's making a big difference in my own practise and I'd recommend it to everyone." CreationDate="2012-02-11T09:16:35.373" UserId="17" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="601" PostId="366" Score="0" Text="The release of inner power can be applied to any movement, not only striking moves." CreationDate="2012-02-11T17:36:47.427" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="602" PostId="114" Score="4" Text="Please consider accepting the answer if it satisfies you, or leaving a comment if it doesn't." CreationDate="2012-02-11T23:39:10.747" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="603" PostId="366" Score="1" Text="True. I don't think that I was saying it couldn't be. More indicating that it's manner of expression was different." CreationDate="2012-02-12T00:31:38.400" UserId="54" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="604" PostId="317" Score="1" Text="I'm shy of making absolute statements, but I advise people to *never* intentionally end up on the ground in a self-defense situation, even if you think it's 1v1. Are you sure than your opponent doesn't have a knife tucked into his pants? Are you sure he doesn't have a mate about to show up? A good ground game is useful if you *end up* on the ground, but I don't think you should ever do it intentionally." CreationDate="2012-02-12T00:55:50.467" UserId="48" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="605" PostId="426" Score="0" Text="This post was edited and my answer became invalid, so I deleted my post. Shame, really." CreationDate="2012-02-12T01:47:00.230" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="606" PostId="426" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke: it was only edited to clarify that he meant bunkai by interpretation. Please review the edit history; your answer was and still is entirely valid." CreationDate="2012-02-12T02:13:53.297" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="607" PostId="426" Score="0" Text="@stslavik True. The edit just really emphasized that 'Shotokan' was in the title. Now I also want to add the word 'waza' to the title, though.. I mean, if we go for exactness, we may never be done." CreationDate="2012-02-12T03:26:19.810" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="608" PostId="17" Score="0" Text="Just out of curiosity: why do you want to have it pure white? Is it a club requirement? We tend to see used uniforms as a mark of experience and effort, so I'm just curious about your motivations." CreationDate="2012-02-12T03:33:29.927" UserId="227" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="609" PostId="345" Score="0" Text="This is how the head of my school has always taught it. Going on the ball increases reach, but you lose power and balance. Avoid it if you're interested in art. Maybe for sport? We don't really do sport where I train." CreationDate="2012-02-12T10:11:41.350" UserId="48" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="611" PostId="451" Score="0" Text="Does the relationship get nuanced by people who are your elders in term of age?" CreationDate="2012-02-12T14:55:37.727" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="612" PostId="451" Score="0" Text="A bit, but it is a minor factor. The main factor is the belt, then the date of arrival, then experience, then age. There is a 7 years old kid that I see as my elder, and I learn a lot from him (mainly because his forms are perfect); added it to the answer" CreationDate="2012-02-12T15:30:08.680" UserId="227" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="613" PostId="451" Score="0" Text="Since you say &quot;It means that during group practices, you have in front of you someone who is a bit better than you&quot;, I feel like your understanding of senpai/kohai is still a little one-sided. Do you have experience of both sides of the relationship?" CreationDate="2012-02-12T16:28:47.167" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="614" PostId="451" Score="0" Text="As the &quot;elder&quot; of some of the others, there is almost no benefit during the group practice from having juniors, apart from the motivation brought by the responsability of having someone watching you and learning from you. The main benefit from me is when giving advice or teaching on forms, as it allows me to understand them better. Teaching is a great way of learning." CreationDate="2012-02-12T17:12:28.763" UserId="227" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="615" PostId="451" Score="1" Text="*smile* Sounds like there is a huge benefit to me.. I'd alter that &quot;almost no benefit&quot; :)" CreationDate="2012-02-12T17:34:26.270" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="618" PostId="459" Score="5" Text="You may want to clarify your needs. The art you practice and the actual problem with pain." CreationDate="2012-02-12T20:10:55.923" UserId="10" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="619" PostId="345" Score="0" Text="Very true in my personal view. What art and style do you train? Sensei Gence practices karate as an art too, not as a sport." CreationDate="2012-02-12T20:15:10.957" UserId="139" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="620" PostId="345" Score="0" Text="I train in a traditional form of taekwondo (split off in the 70s by Moon Hwan Lee)." CreationDate="2012-02-12T21:13:40.127" UserId="48" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="622" PostId="453" Score="2" Text="If you're a [hokuto shinken](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hokuto_Shinken) successor, there's no turning back. Either kill or be killed. So no skipping on training routines." CreationDate="2012-02-12T13:27:54.230" UserDisplayName="user232" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="623" PostId="444" Score="2" Text="+1 for physics :-) (and another +1 deserved for mentioning clapping pushups)" CreationDate="2012-02-13T07:14:49.493" UserId="75" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="625" PostId="451" Score="0" Text="Bah. &quot;Boys like to know who is in charge and what are the rules.&quot; So of course sempai/kohai is viewed this way. And when you do, you miss the whole point." CreationDate="2012-02-13T13:27:46.507" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="627" PostId="373" Score="1" Text="@jacknad: Depends on which style you do.  Both yoshinkan and shodokan do use strikes as strikes to name but two." CreationDate="2012-02-13T14:22:55.423" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="628" PostId="451" Score="0" Text="That was an impressively not useful or intelligible comment, congratulations." CreationDate="2012-02-13T14:39:53.880" UserId="227" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="629" PostId="451" Score="0" Text="@Mikalichov The bond between semapi and kohai has more to do with being brothers and less about rank. Rank is just the outer form. Because rank is obvious, people mistakenly attribute that to all there is to sempai and kohai. If you don't understand what it means to be brothers, then what I said would not make sense, would not be useful, and would not be intelligible to you. Thanks for your impressively obvious observations :-)" CreationDate="2012-02-13T16:16:32.413" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="630" PostId="426" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke: Shotokan was in the title from the first post (see edit history). Please build on the accepted community wiki answer, and include waza if you feel strongly about it being an accurate point." CreationDate="2012-02-13T16:41:37.703" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="631" PostId="426" Score="0" Text="@stslavik Yes, hence why I said 'emphasized'. I did not notice it at first." CreationDate="2012-02-13T17:11:50.040" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="633" PostId="454" Score="0" Text="+1. I'd only add that sometimes life simply intervenes. You move to an area that doesn't offer the same quality of training; you get married (my training decreased significantly after getting married); having children... I don't see this necessarily as a dwindling of passion so much, but it can definitely be a problem in maintaining the discipline/passion. Discipline and passion itself can be a bit of a glamour in the martial arts themselves." CreationDate="2012-02-13T18:03:16.277" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="634" PostId="466" Score="1" Text="As it is, this question mirrors the original (see [edit history](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/posts/329/revisions)) question [Given a student of average height and weight, which martial arts practice is likely...](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/329/what-should-i-look-for-in-order-to-develop-self-defense-skills-as-quickly-as-pos) which required significant editing and remains closed. This can be answered, but all answers are subjective." CreationDate="2012-02-13T18:13:29.820" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="635" PostId="470" Score="4" Text="this is a great question, one i think almost everyone who has been in martial arts for a long time has had to deal with." CreationDate="2012-02-13T18:33:48.113" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="636" PostId="83" Score="0" Text="I don't know precisely how useful this is, but there are two books here (Hapkido Bible and Hapkido II) that are often referenced as &quot;must haves&quot; of the Hapkido world, and would likely be able to answer your questions: http://www.hanmudo.com/merchandise" CreationDate="2012-02-13T19:23:47.127" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="637" PostId="444" Score="5" Text="Science is an oft-under-appreciated virtue in the martial arts world (except when it can be exploited and misinterpreted for television shows)." CreationDate="2012-02-13T19:26:33.473" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="639" PostId="451" Score="0" Text="I still believe that a comment (or an answer, on that note) should be more useful, and intelligible than &quot;Big tree is bamboo in the river&quot;. As from the rank/brother issue, you probably noticed that I was talking about &quot;elders&quot; giving advice and being role models for their seniors, which is precisely what brothers tend to do. Therefore, I am glad to see you appreciate my observations." CreationDate="2012-02-13T20:01:13.473" UserId="227" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="640" PostId="467" Score="1" Text="Whats available is key.  Its not a question of what style to take, its a question of which of the available schools are best.  Unless one lives smack in the middle of a major urban area, the practical choices are typically limited." CreationDate="2012-02-13T20:03:56.170" UserId="84" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="641" PostId="450" Score="0" Text="My turn. I believe there is more to the elder/junior relationship than &quot;getting your junior out of trouble&quot;. As it it, there would be no benefit for the elder, which I think isn't true. It also fails to mention any of the possible learning/teaching aspects and benefits of the relation." CreationDate="2012-02-13T20:06:53.623" UserId="227" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="642" PostId="345" Score="0" Text="Confirmed, when one of my elder wanted to show me that dodging a kick was better than blocking (which was my preference), he proposed me to block one of his. I flew. He then pointed the fact that he didn't keep his foot flat, to protect me. Now I dodge." CreationDate="2012-02-13T20:14:24.067" UserId="227" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="643" PostId="467" Score="2" Text="true, to a point.  there are some arts, no matter how good the instructor is, that wouldn't really work well in mma.  Hapkido is one,  to many of it's techniques are illegal,  tai chi is another.  they could have amazing instructors and class quality. but still wouldn't be a good start." CreationDate="2012-02-13T20:17:04.967" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="644" PostId="467" Score="0" Text="So you pick the best from whats available.  How *isnt* that what I said?" CreationDate="2012-02-13T20:40:13.300" UserId="84" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="646" PostId="475" Score="0" Text="May I ask which system you teach? I've never heard about this before." CreationDate="2012-02-13T20:57:43.217" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="647" PostId="450" Score="0" Text="@Mikalichov heheheheh, being responsible for and taking care of someone changes you as a person. And this change takes you right to the essence of martial arts." CreationDate="2012-02-13T21:57:48.537" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="648" PostId="451" Score="0" Text="@Mikalichov I think you still miss the point. But that's how life goes." CreationDate="2012-02-13T21:59:23.683" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="649" PostId="473" Score="1" Text="Thanks--this is a good answer, and I definitely think talking in private and being non-confrontational is key. My one concern is that, given that I'm the same belt level as some of these instructors and am clearly not having difficulties with the class, it would be hard for me to frame this as a personal issue without seeming disingenuous." CreationDate="2012-02-13T22:07:54.370" UserId="45" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="650" PostId="473" Score="0" Text="@RSid: I do understand; there's a lot of disingenuous behavior that goes along with being part of hierarchical social structures. Your rank, without being named an instructor, still puts you at a lower rank than they are; being self-effacing means you're offering them a way to save face, which can be ingratiating. There is always the other option used in the military: &quot;Permission to speak freely, Sir?&quot; This, however, is immediately confrontational. There is not an easy answer; ultimately, whatever path you take, you'll be making a compromise between your feelings and theirs." CreationDate="2012-02-13T22:48:11.360" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="651" PostId="441" Score="0" Text="@stslavik Great suggestions, I normally try and make a 90º angle with my elbows which leaves me about a fist width above the ground, but I got a big chest, so that might not work for everyone." CreationDate="2012-02-13T23:00:40.023" UserId="51" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="654" PostId="465" Score="1" Text="where does your mount usually fail?  how do you get swept?" CreationDate="2012-02-14T03:47:27.777" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="655" PostId="113" Score="1" Text="@Tomas if you want to learn how to fight, then don't bother with a martial art. Study Krav Maga." CreationDate="2012-02-14T03:53:19.517" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="656" PostId="481" Score="0" Text="How much of this information should be added to the wiki article linked by the OP? It is fairly empty." CreationDate="2012-02-14T03:55:12.760" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="657" PostId="481" Score="0" Text="And as another comment - the way you indicated to set up the sempai/kohai relationship is, as you said, extremely subversive. I'm worried that people who don't read everything will miss that part of your post. Could you please emphasize that a little more?" CreationDate="2012-02-14T03:57:37.763" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="658" PostId="450" Score="0" Text="@Mikalichov He who knows does not speak; he who speaks does not know. (note - this is not a criticism addressed to you, but a relevant quote of the Tao Te Ching)." CreationDate="2012-02-14T03:58:41.380" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="659" PostId="83" Score="0" Text="@DavidH.Clements if you get the books recommended by stslavik, please consider adding an answer and marking it as accepted :)" CreationDate="2012-02-14T03:59:35.750" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="660" PostId="83" Score="0" Text="I will be happy to if I can get my hands on it, which I've been hoping to do.  It isn't in Tedeschi's _Hapkido_ or in my other books, unfortunately, and I can't confirm it is in that one without actually seeing it." CreationDate="2012-02-14T04:11:15.377" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="661" PostId="489" Score="1" Text="Ive found this is good when mount is initially secured, the person on bottom will generally buck like crazy to get you off. I also like to spread my arms out wide and away where they can't grab and drive my pelvis into their stomach. &#xA;&#xA;Once they stop thrashing you can start solidifying mount and starting your attack." CreationDate="2012-02-14T04:21:04.410" UserId="123" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="662" PostId="450" Score="0" Text="Taking the risk of looking persistant, I still think than when someone asks a question, he asks for an answer, and an explanation of the answer. An answer that is understandable mainly by the answerer, and possibly by another small subset of people (and maybe not even in the way intended by the answerer) is in my opinion not an answer, but merely a comment. As a bonus, a quote from my place says &quot;When in doubt, don't use a quote&quot;." CreationDate="2012-02-14T04:26:45.683" UserId="227" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="663" PostId="450" Score="0" Text="@Mikalichov I try to answer in a way where there is both an obvious and a not-so-obvious answer. In this case, I didn't. This came after years of chasing down the wrong thing. Looking for a specific code of honor. Looking for a specific set of rules. Turned out, my teachers and the older students had already figured it out ... and it is a lot simpler than precise calculations the same way your body starts naturally flowing faster than your ability to calculate. Do you trust your sempai to pull you from the brink? Would you give yourself to look out for your kohai?" CreationDate="2012-02-14T05:04:13.860" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="664" PostId="112" Score="0" Text="as a question to your question: why do you wish to get lower? I find being tall a great advantage for throws (easier to throw, but more important the opponent falls from higher). Is it only to make practice &quot;softer&quot;, or is there another technical reason?" CreationDate="2012-02-14T05:13:08.703" UserId="227" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="665" PostId="417" Score="0" Text="There is a similar one in Vovinam too, but with a straight palm (basically looking like -|O- if it makes sense). But the interesting part is that it is actually considered a fighting stance, and some moves are made to be started in this position. And as an addition, there is another salute - not often done - of covering the left hand with the right hand. It means exactly what it says: &quot;I cover peace/mercy/non aggression&quot;, and ends up quite messy." CreationDate="2012-02-14T05:24:01.793" UserId="227" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="666" PostId="83" Score="0" Text="A shot in the dark: have you asked to your teacher(s) if there was a korean name for it? They may call it &quot;advanced basics&quot; for lack of a better translation for the korean name." CreationDate="2012-02-14T05:27:59.930" UserId="227" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="667" PostId="450" Score="0" Text="You should add these last things in your answer, as it would make it more complete and acceptable." CreationDate="2012-02-14T05:56:49.333" UserId="227" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="668" PostId="450" Score="0" Text="@Mikalichov hmmm, I'll give it a good night's rest and seriously consider it. Thanks for the feedback." CreationDate="2012-02-14T06:58:28.767" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="669" PostId="481" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke: I think **all** of it should be included but I would leave that to stslavik to do if they wished it." CreationDate="2012-02-14T07:51:37.620" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="670" PostId="112" Score="0" Text="@Mikalichov Its not to make the throw &quot;softer&quot; - it genuinely makes the throw easier.  The more stood up I am the more effort it takes as I can feel that I am essentially having to lift people up / over me because I'm in the wrong position." CreationDate="2012-02-14T10:45:14.403" UserId="92" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="671" PostId="465" Score="0" Text="it varies, sometimes the hip bump sweep, or when i stay low ish to avoid that, they get back to 1/2 guard easily." CreationDate="2012-02-14T15:01:47.050" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="672" PostId="489" Score="0" Text="grapevining is good if you have the knee/hip flexibility to pull it off.  unfortunately, i cannot." CreationDate="2012-02-14T15:02:25.897" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="673" PostId="475" Score="0" Text="Our school teaches a mix of tae kwon doe, aikido, kung fu, bagwa zhang and weapons.&#xA;http://www.bodymindsystems.com" CreationDate="2012-02-14T16:36:03.347" UserId="244" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="674" PostId="481" Score="1" Text="@Trevoke: Noted; I'll add a disclaimer to the subversive nature." CreationDate="2012-02-14T16:48:14.817" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="675" PostId="83" Score="0" Text="Unfortunately, I've only seen english descriptive names for anything in Hapkido. Perhaps I can track down something in Korean... Let me see..." CreationDate="2012-02-14T17:07:09.303" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="676" PostId="83" Score="0" Text="Added an answer based on what I managed to find. I can not be sure, but based on your information it's the best I can do. Perhaps if you can take a look and give me corrections as to what you're intending, then I can give you a better answer." CreationDate="2012-02-14T17:51:23.520" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="677" PostId="475" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke: And that's why you've never heard of it." CreationDate="2012-02-14T17:55:52.733" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="678" PostId="465" Score="0" Text="what about high mount?" CreationDate="2012-02-14T17:59:45.247" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="679" PostId="280" Score="0" Text="@dmckee: To clarify, it was muskets that were introduced at that time. The hand-held cannon was introduced by the Chinese earlier. Basically a big lacquered vase held in the unenviable position between the legs and fired (as one technique), or braced in the arms... They had a nasty habit of blowing up after a couple of shots." CreationDate="2012-02-14T18:01:15.090" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="680" PostId="280" Score="2" Text="I will defer to your knowledge on that, but allow me to find those...uhm...unappealing." CreationDate="2012-02-14T18:37:34.063" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="681" PostId="475" Score="3" Text="I'm very surprised that the system would have a type of salute for beginners to signify that they are... I can't really word it in a nicer way: to signify that they suck. What if you had a 'beginner' who had ten years of serious martial and mental training? Would you then teach him the third salute, or force him to symbolically regress? My opinion (for what it's worth) is that even a beginner is on the path of body and mind coming together, and that is very important to represent. May I ask the logic why it is not so?" CreationDate="2012-02-14T18:56:36.290" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="682" PostId="465" Score="0" Text="the good old bridge and roll!" CreationDate="2012-02-14T19:03:06.453" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="686" PostId="396" Score="1" Text="In the words of both the Master and my band teacher, &quot;If you can't do it right slow, you will never be able to do it right fast&quot;.  It's amazing how many times I'll have difficulty with something, slow it down to almost tai chi speed and the teacher will then tell me &quot;your hand is in the wrong position here." CreationDate="2012-02-15T14:27:54.180" UserId="249" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="687" PostId="113" Score="1" Text="@Trevoke: Contradictory. Fighting methods are martial arts – codified systems of combat trained for personal defense, sport, spiritual development, or health." CreationDate="2012-02-15T17:04:21.593" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="689" PostId="475" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke: Your question may actually be answered by my answer to another question: http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/481/25" CreationDate="2012-02-15T19:21:41.093" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="690" PostId="180" Score="0" Text="@StasM: It's about mentality; you're comfortable and safe in your idea of it, and won't change that. In training my students, they're not given a choice, instead having to trust me. I work a lot with what has been called here &quot;subversive means&quot;. I'm not the most popular sort, but my methods do work. Again, I'm not taking them onto asphalt or concrete; I'm taking them onto grass. This has its own suggestion." CreationDate="2012-02-15T20:49:29.673" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="691" PostId="475" Score="0" Text="The purpose is not to signify they suck - that would be quite counter productive to them improving, and just flat wrong.  And you are correct, beginners are on the path of body and mind coming together - thus the change in bow showing body and mind coming together during the course of their training." CreationDate="2012-02-15T20:54:26.653" UserId="244" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="692" PostId="475" Score="0" Text="[Continued from earlier comment, just not enough room]&#xA;As for the new student with ten years of training, yes, they would start at the white belt level though they most likely won't be there very long and make their way up the line quickly as they would know or be able to pick up the material.  Case in point - if I walked into your school would I start at the bottom and prove what I can do or who I am, or you would just give me a black belt with a few stripes on it like a few of the McDojo's do?" CreationDate="2012-02-15T20:54:36.527" UserId="244" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="693" PostId="113" Score="0" Text="@stslavik Not contradictory. The term 'martial arts' is a misnomer. They should be called something like 'system of complete development of the human being', but it doesn't really roll off the tongue as well. A fighting style / fighting method is not a martial art, as it only teaches you how to hurt other people." CreationDate="2012-02-15T21:27:06.677" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="694" PostId="475" Score="0" Text="Hah. Were you to walk into my school, we'd see. Every student is different. I'm just surprised that you don't start with a salute indicating that the process has started." CreationDate="2012-02-15T21:28:34.020" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="695" PostId="475" Score="0" Text="@stslavik You're being a little too cynical, I think." CreationDate="2012-02-15T21:28:53.850" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="696" PostId="113" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke: Misnomer or not, the dictionary doesn't differentiate, nor does 98% of society (those new to or not practicing martial arts). Technically, prior to Edo-period in Japan, all martial arts taught were how to &quot;hurt other people&quot;. (The periods are different based on political pressures in different countries)." CreationDate="2012-02-15T21:33:50.430" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="697" PostId="475" Score="1" Text="@Trevoke: My assertion is not inaccurate; many new hybridizations of arts use varying salutations that are given meaning to create cohesion in that environment to the exclusion of &quot;outsiders&quot;. Further, the assertion that a beginner in their course is only on the path to unification of the mind and body establishes hierarchy, and seeks to differentiate their training as &quot;the way&quot;, vs. anything previously learned. My philosophical believes (Cynic or otherwise) are not at issue here." CreationDate="2012-02-15T21:41:00.920" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="698" PostId="501" Score="0" Text="Bruce Lee investigated the same thing and you can find some conditioning exercise in his books. (I don't have them here, so cannot really read and report)" CreationDate="2012-02-15T22:53:26.913" UserId="10" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="699" PostId="475" Score="0" Text="@stslavik I'm not saying you're wrong.. Just that you are casting judgment on another member of the community, and that is not a good thing." CreationDate="2012-02-16T03:33:59.630" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="700" PostId="113" Score="0" Text="@stslavik I don't see your point. There _is_ a difference." CreationDate="2012-02-16T03:34:36.663" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="701" PostId="113" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke, you mean that Krav Maga is much more effective than any martial art? I thought Wing Chun can be really effective." CreationDate="2012-02-16T08:01:45.900" UserId="93" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="702" PostId="508" Score="2" Text="Could you expend your answer a little?  Just a link without background is bad form." CreationDate="2012-02-16T10:51:48.413" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="703" PostId="339" Score="1" Text="I have to agree with @Trevoke, on Systema. I met some Russians who did it, and boy it was to the point and not unsophisticated. It is not too violent like MMA which can get you into legal problems if used. If the police come and see a bunch of bloody drunks, you can easily get locked up. If there was not so much of a history and heritage issue it should be more noted. It is natural as noted above. The moves are intuitive and become easily second nature-important." CreationDate="2012-02-16T12:36:21.570" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="704" PostId="510" Score="3" Text="this effectively looks to be a dupe of http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/425/57" CreationDate="2012-02-16T12:40:19.910" UserId="57" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="705" PostId="510" Score="1" Text="@RoryAlsop, the difference in the question is fundamental. The question you link to is not for people to listen to 'while' practicing. This asks for passive listening, not about playing as a compliment to the practice." CreationDate="2012-02-16T12:47:18.857" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="706" PostId="510" Score="0" Text="This is a wiki question: there is no yes / no answer.  Every &quot;answer&quot; is going to be completely subjective." CreationDate="2012-02-16T13:30:38.740" UserId="121" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="707" PostId="113" Score="1" Text="@Tomas No, that's not what I'm saying. But if you study a martial art, you will most likely NOT be combat-ready for at least five years - most probably ten. If you study something like Krav Maga, you will be combat-ready in months." CreationDate="2012-02-16T13:34:17.270" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="708" PostId="514" Score="0" Text="Is this the part where we also bring up Capoeira? :)" CreationDate="2012-02-16T13:49:20.870" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="710" PostId="113" Score="0" Text="Thanks @Trevoke - and what you think about Wing Chun and being combat-ready? In your classification, is it more like &quot;martial art&quot; (5-10yrs) or more like Krav Maga (months)?" CreationDate="2012-02-16T13:55:28.373" UserId="93" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="711" PostId="510" Score="0" Text="How about a discussion of the positive and negative sides of it; as slugster points out in the answer given? What effects can it have? What are the things to watch out for? Effects of different types of music?" CreationDate="2012-02-16T14:22:19.707" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="713" PostId="514" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke: Sure. :)" CreationDate="2012-02-16T14:41:01.153" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="714" PostId="113" Score="1" Text="@Tomas Real, traditional wing chun, with a traditional instructor? 5-10 years. With an instructor who thinks it's all about fighting, then you'll be learning how to fight with a wing chun flavor - you won't be learning wing chun - and you'll be ready quickly." CreationDate="2012-02-16T15:28:31.853" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="715" PostId="113" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke, thanks. Sounds like &quot;learning wing chun&quot; blocks one's fighting progress :) (at least in those first 5 years)" CreationDate="2012-02-16T15:38:47.397" UserId="93" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="716" PostId="508" Score="0" Text="&quot;You don't need to win in sparring&quot; -- that should eventually become a FAQ answer here. This is the third question I've seen related to getting agitated during sparring." CreationDate="2012-02-16T16:52:32.690" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="717" PostId="511" Score="0" Text="I play music during my solo practice of my traditional art. But that's only when I practice indoors. And obviously, no one else sees it." CreationDate="2012-02-16T16:55:41.187" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="718" PostId="505" Score="0" Text="The basic frame in here is, &quot;how do I become more competitive&quot;. That's a need to win. See http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/509/65 and http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/485/65" CreationDate="2012-02-16T17:02:30.773" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="719" PostId="113" Score="0" Text="@Tomas Oy! I never said that! Hang on .. Now I need to write you a long, long full-fledged answer." CreationDate="2012-02-16T17:15:21.907" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="720" PostId="510" Score="1" Text="@Vass: This is a Q&amp;A site, not a discussion site. Discussions should be reserved for Chat. We like facts, but will take [good subjective](http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/09/good-subjective-bad-subjective/) questions." CreationDate="2012-02-16T17:44:59.533" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="721" PostId="113" Score="1" Text="@Trevoke: Your assertion of not being combat ready is irrelevant. The art doesn't teach effectiveness quickly, the instructor does. There are incomplete arts, yes. But they are all still arts." CreationDate="2012-02-16T18:34:19.737" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="722" PostId="510" Score="0" Text="@RoryAlsop: The question is fundamentally related to listening of music, whereas the alleged duplicate is about the playing of musical instruments. This is not a duplicate." CreationDate="2012-02-16T19:23:38.730" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="723" PostId="511" Score="0" Text="Playing music does not necessarily mean one plays music loudly. Consider the soft music played in department stores; barely perceptible, but effective in creating a suggestible state in shoppers. Music can set a similar state in students if used carefully." CreationDate="2012-02-16T19:25:34.000" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="728" PostId="508" Score="0" Text="In my case (and, ironically, this may sound egotistic!) it definitely isn't ego - just the thrill and challenge of sparring someone my level. Sparring my instructor isn't a challenge: more a chance to learn. Sparring someone rather less good than me is a chance to stretch their ability: to let them attack, or challenge their defense. It's when they're about my own level that we can really challenge each other, and that's what I find most enjoyable." CreationDate="2012-02-17T14:34:26.920" UserId="48" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="729" PostId="12" Score="3" Text="+1 for the esoteric stuff :-))) Yes, many aikidokas look like that :-)" CreationDate="2012-02-17T15:28:07.923" UserId="93" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="730" PostId="479" Score="2" Text="Great answer! Expressive, not cluttered with thousand words, going straigt to the problem!" CreationDate="2012-02-17T16:20:05.420" UserId="93" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="731" PostId="479" Score="0" Text="@Tomas, thanks.  I was trying to be brief without being rude.  I succeeded in at least one of those two.  ;-)" CreationDate="2012-02-17T21:24:49.823" UserId="121" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="732" PostId="499" Score="0" Text="This is another wiki question.  All answers will be subjective." CreationDate="2012-02-17T21:26:04.330" UserId="121" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="733" PostId="527" Score="0" Text="Hello Tomas, thank you for your answer. But my question is more specific: kata tori ikkyo/nikyo omote. Not other forms (shomenuchi, ura waza etc)" CreationDate="2012-02-17T22:20:48.903" UserId="10" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="734" PostId="499" Score="3" Text="@BobCross: Even subjective does not necessarily indicate wiki. See [Good Subjective, Bad Subjective](http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/09/good-subjective-bad-subjective/)" CreationDate="2012-02-17T22:46:22.327" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="735" PostId="499" Score="1" Text="Check the comments on that post, particularly Robert's comment &quot;But, if your question is intended to gather a list of equally relevant answers, and you don’t expect one answer to be the most applicable, it should be a community wiki anyway. Community wiki on a “list of X” question suggests that the value of the question is in having the *list* of answers as a collection (i.e. a collaboration).&quot;  Is it possible to answer this question definitively?  As far as I can tell, the answers &quot;yes&quot;, &quot;no&quot; and &quot;maybe&quot; are all equally valid." CreationDate="2012-02-18T02:34:49.587" UserId="121" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="738" PostId="15" Score="1" Text="our sensei and other instructors also told us that ikkyo and nikkyo are different directions. I never understood this. They started with ikkyo omote and told us that there are 4 directions to continue to: ikkyo, nikyo, sankyo (towards the opponent), and to 4th was jonkyo ?? Don't remember. I never really understood this - and so for me personally it temporarily fell to the category of &quot;esoteric crap&quot;... as @tacone mentioned :)" CreationDate="2012-02-18T09:59:31.383" UserId="93" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="739" PostId="532" Score="0" Text="By relaxation do you mean physical or emotional ([see this question](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/506/harnessing-emotion-during-sparring/))?  Perhaps the meditation tag applies here?" CreationDate="2012-02-18T13:43:44.923" UserId="47" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="741" PostId="532" Score="0" Text="@Zephyr No the question you give me not reflect what I ask for." CreationDate="2012-02-18T13:53:58.810" UserId="267" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="742" PostId="532" Score="0" Text="@Zephyr To clear it. emotional is the feedback of the body to the mind. So emotional is reflect the body and its the signal to the mind. You can relax your body with one technique, but you need a second technique for the mind. The one can affect the other ofcource mind &lt;-&gt; body, but they are 2 different and is better to have different techniques for 2, and not wait the one to affect the other." CreationDate="2012-02-18T14:03:13.167" UserId="267" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="745" PostId="533" Score="0" Text="@Aristos, I respect and understand what you are saying, but for some things, THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTS. Not until we enter the Age of the Matrix and we can do high-speed, intensive training of the neurons and nerves." CreationDate="2012-02-18T15:37:49.850" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="747" PostId="533" Score="0" Text="Well, I hope you get the magical answer you are looking for, but I am not holding my breath." CreationDate="2012-02-18T16:53:32.860" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="748" PostId="532" Score="5" Text="There are two questions here. This might be better off being split: &quot;How can I [physically] relax quickly&quot;" CreationDate="2012-02-18T17:07:48.473" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="751" PostId="533" Score="0" Text="@Aristos there isn't a shortcut. There's no fast and easy way to relax. In looking for a &quot;fast and easy way&quot; you're already lost in the woods. Having said that, there are numerous ways that help you get there. Their effectiveness depend on what kind of person you are." CreationDate="2012-02-18T18:25:43.263" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="752" PostId="508" Score="0" Text="@Rophuine &quot;ego&quot; is very tricky. If you feel the need to justify yourself, as you did here, that's ego. But I get what you mean though: you don't necessarily want to prove your self worth by beating down someone; the thrill of a challenging opponent is enough." CreationDate="2012-02-18T18:43:40.283" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="753" PostId="532" Score="0" Text="Not really. You can be mentally tense and physically relaxed or vice-versa.  There are links there, but they aren't the same thing. More importantly, you are looking for two answers. One is physical, the other is mental.  If you are looking for two answers, it implies that you should have two questions." CreationDate="2012-02-18T18:51:35.463" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="754" PostId="499" Score="0" Text="Yes, so long as they are backed up by either facts or personal experience they are acceptably subjective. I'm not asking for a list; I'm asking if they're tested differently and *how*." CreationDate="2012-02-18T20:46:54.920" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="756" PostId="533" Score="1" Text="@Aristos -- if you know the answer, please, provide it. It sounds like you know something I do not." CreationDate="2012-02-18T21:30:58.617" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="758" PostId="534" Score="3" Text="@Aristos Ok, I see where you're coming from. You're assuming there's some trick, some button you can press on your controller to activate your Super Samurai Ninja Jedi Relaxation Technique. There isn't one. There *is* a secret here, but it is hidden in plain sight. It's the kind of secret that people tell you exactly what it is, try very hard to make as plainly as they can, but you still would not get because it is not something you are looking for and not something you want to accept." CreationDate="2012-02-18T21:36:10.223" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="761" PostId="533" Score="0" Text="@Aristos tell us and we can fill in the blanks." CreationDate="2012-02-18T21:43:09.383" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="762" PostId="533" Score="1" Text="@Aristos You making the same mistake every newbie makes. Meditation happens continuously. It's not something you turn on for a few minutes and then &quot;go back to normal&quot;." CreationDate="2012-02-18T21:44:41.163" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="764" PostId="532" Score="0" Text="@Aristos Go read this: http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/485/65" CreationDate="2012-02-18T21:47:29.010" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="765" PostId="532" Score="0" Text="While this is a good topic/question, the original poster is asking for a much narrower question. That narrower question has already been asked here: http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/482/how-to-meditate-after-an-adrenaline-rush-or-exertion&#xA;&#xA;@DavidH.Clements what do you think?" CreationDate="2012-02-18T21:48:23.673" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="769" PostId="508" Score="0" Text="I was clarifying, not justifying - but I see what you mean." CreationDate="2012-02-18T22:56:24.333" UserId="48" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="771" PostId="536" Score="1" Text="&quot;In that case, you are naturally inclined to withdraw the upper body and counter-attack with the big muscles in your legs&quot; -- That's not a _natural_response. It's a trained one. It's certainly not what I would have done when I had no training, and it's not what I do now, because it's not the training I received." CreationDate="2012-02-19T02:56:16.293" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="776" PostId="538" Score="0" Text="Second that, if you're shorter than your opponent you should move closer and trap him/her in as far as possible. Otherwise he or she will use their reach advantage and you won't be able to do much about that." CreationDate="2012-02-19T07:06:25.787" UserId="75" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="777" PostId="536" Score="0" Text="It is, however, a _sensible_ response." CreationDate="2012-02-19T10:07:09.740" UserId="48" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="778" PostId="538" Score="1" Text="Absolutely. That is how I spar taller people and they hate it." CreationDate="2012-02-19T14:31:21.923" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="780" PostId="531" Score="0" Text="All the kata will depend on which style you do." CreationDate="2012-02-19T14:49:43.190" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="781" PostId="531" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion I was doing only aikido. The small moves I think was just good practice." CreationDate="2012-02-19T14:57:48.427" UserId="267" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="782" PostId="536" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke, if you're speaking about the overall population, sure, they are not inclined to back kick.  They are, however, inclined to get their head out of the way.  The OP was asking from the point of view of someone who is being trained in spinning kicks and does not understand the motivation.  That is not the average person.  So, when I say &quot;you&quot; in that sentence, you can substitute &quot;David H. Clements.&quot;" CreationDate="2012-02-19T16:27:19.300" UserId="121" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="783" PostId="540" Score="0" Text="Thanks! What a great answer!- Still, I'll wait a bit (1-2 days) for new answers coming in." CreationDate="2012-02-19T18:19:50.480" UserId="269" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="784" PostId="540" Score="0" Text="Hm, In my picture, the guy moves the fist over his head, but in the taekwondo form, it is more a horizontal upper arm / vertical lower arm, and the fist is placed a good deal more away from the head." CreationDate="2012-02-19T18:35:43.133" UserId="269" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="785" PostId="378" Score="1" Text="The body kick strategy was the main way I scored against substantially bigger opponents during the short time I practiced at a Tae Kwon Do club that did WTF sparring, and you can get an *advantage* out of your shorter stature in this by directing your kicks a bit upward to unroot your opponent. You'll need to be fairly well committed and you will want to work on your front kick and side kick mechanics to maximize your hitting power and speed of development, but it *can* be done." CreationDate="2012-02-19T19:06:28.597" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="786" PostId="543" Score="2" Text="Until you've tried this in *some* kind of physical performance sport (my first exposure was in springboard diving) you can't realize how useful a tool it can be. But I've only done it a little in martial arts, and don't want to make too strong a claim. Why don't you try it?" CreationDate="2012-02-19T20:06:19.570" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="787" PostId="544" Score="0" Text="In my case, it's at the beginning of a form, which starts with a low block with the fist at the hip tucked in, before the arm is raised above the head." CreationDate="2012-02-19T20:51:42.190" UserId="269" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="788" PostId="540" Score="0" Text="@knb, you are welcome.  You aren't wrong in noticing the difference between the form and the picture.  Personally, I would call that a variant that, in real life, would certainly be adapted to the situation of the moment (i.e., block high if the attack is coming high).  Your mileage will obviously vary." CreationDate="2012-02-19T21:00:27.083" UserId="121" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="789" PostId="545" Score="2" Text="Hate? You *only* &quot;hate&quot; looking at yourself? Lucky man." CreationDate="2012-02-19T22:01:46.863" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="790" PostId="545" Score="0" Text="@dmckee, well we have to pick a word.  I do a fair amount of public speaking as well and had to help edit a video presentation of one of my talks.  I was ready to claw out my own eyes before we were done....  ;-)" CreationDate="2012-02-19T22:04:34.113" UserId="121" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="791" PostId="531" Score="1" Text="Ah, sorry.  I meant that the kata will vary between styles of aikido: yoshinkan, shodokan, aikikai, iwama, ki, etc... all will have different versions of the 31 and may others.  Shodokan has a 6, 18, 21 and 31 for example." CreationDate="2012-02-20T08:26:06.180" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="792" PostId="531" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion I am on aikikai." CreationDate="2012-02-20T08:29:36.130" UserId="267" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="793" PostId="536" Score="0" Text="@Rophuine Sensible, no doubt about it! As I said, not what I would do, but that's because my body has been trained to do different things :)" CreationDate="2012-02-20T15:46:24.873" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="794" PostId="550" Score="0" Text="+1 Very interesting question.  Personally, I compete to learn more about the art I practice thus I do not tend to focus on winning.  Would this help her?" CreationDate="2012-02-20T17:19:52.660" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="795" PostId="40" Score="3" Text="Japanese sword training is taught on one side due in part that it is mounted on one side (i.e. you draw it from the same side).  The other part of the reason is that it is a two handed weapon.  There is little advantage to switching which hand is dominant.  Single handed weapons, particularly if they are held in both hands, are taught with the expectation that you will develop both hands." CreationDate="2012-02-20T20:14:07.360" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="796" PostId="499" Score="2" Text="It's also worth noting (though this is more of a meta discussion) that the proper answer to &quot;polling opinion&quot; questions is to **close** them, _not_ to wikify them. See, for example, [my comment here](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/76/11)." CreationDate="2012-02-20T21:57:50.313" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="797" PostId="543" Score="2" Text="We occasionally film ourselves fencing, and its amazing how much poor technique you can pick out to improve on, when you can analyze it later.  I know there is a &quot;stigma&quot; against filming in some dojo's, so depending on your instructor it might be a hard sell." CreationDate="2012-02-21T14:17:07.513" UserId="61" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="798" PostId="553" Score="2" Text="just to clarify, you would like tips on how to get to closed guard when your opponent is in the combat base/ position?" CreationDate="2012-02-21T14:18:09.207" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="799" PostId="558" Score="0" Text="I have EXACTLY the same problem. Several techniques involve pivoting on your foot, and I always find it hard to actually pivot any, due to my foot &quot;sticking&quot; to the mat, and it dramatically slows down the techniques." CreationDate="2012-02-21T16:31:05.740" UserId="167" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="800" PostId="558" Score="0" Text="Also, if you are on asphalt, wearing shoes, this will be even harder." CreationDate="2012-02-21T17:05:38.153" UserId="186" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="801" PostId="558" Score="0" Text="@HannoFietz: Yup. Doing a little training on various surfaces and in various footwear can be a very enlightening experience. Though if you train in a traditional dojo system then your street versions should be less flamboyant in any case." CreationDate="2012-02-21T17:53:16.853" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="802" PostId="378" Score="0" Text="Even though I'm a taller guy, I have an aversion to attempting to kick to the head.  I'd much rather bring the head down to my foot.  Since in a TKD tournament, you can't use jujitsu, strikes to the body are the best bet.  Also if you do strike to the head, use your hand techniques.  Judges see the strikes to the head better--but don't be a one-trick pony." CreationDate="2012-02-21T19:30:11.307" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="805" PostId="545" Score="0" Text="I know what you mean, I find it actually painful ;-) But it helps with other things, too, like public speaking as you mentioned in your comment." CreationDate="2012-02-21T19:37:22.467" UserId="129" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="806" PostId="90" Score="0" Text="US law is further muddied by the fact that self-defense laws vary from state to state.  For example, &quot;use of lethal force&quot; is legal in some jurisdictions and not others.  In Virginia, you may use equal force to what is presented--up to and including lethal force.  However, there are also clauses regarding attempting to de-escalate force." CreationDate="2012-02-21T21:09:16.497" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="807" PostId="553" Score="0" Text="Yep that's correct, please let me know how to edit my question or title if that was unclear in anyway :)" CreationDate="2012-02-22T02:54:34.687" UserId="123" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="809" PostId="563" Score="3" Text="This question is too localized - how do you define &quot;correct&quot;?" CreationDate="2012-02-22T03:50:51.917" UserId="121" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="810" PostId="563" Score="1" Text="Well, that is why I asked; I wasn't sure if there *was* a correct, traditional or proper style... or not. **Not** is just as valid an answer as anything." CreationDate="2012-02-22T05:24:22.633" UserId="167" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="815" PostId="564" Score="0" Text="Talhoffer is described as having the title of *Maister* in the Fight Earnestly book.  I do not speak German so cannot point to the exact line in the text but the pdf can be found here: http://www.thearma.org/pdf/Fight-Earnestly.pdf  Hope this helps." CreationDate="2012-02-22T07:49:23.577" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="816" PostId="554" Score="0" Text="You got the wrong idea; I am not her instructor, I do not train with her, and I am not her professional coach. We are engaged. We live together. And since I have Kyokushin experience, I would like to help her with the mindset that she feels is lacking. The word &quot;anger&quot; is misguiding you, sorry for that. There are several forum threads on the internet about how to translate the Swedish word I'm looking for. Suggestions include &quot;fighting spirit&quot; and &quot;anger-controlled determination&quot;." CreationDate="2012-02-22T09:48:00.167" UserId="231" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="817" PostId="562" Score="0" Text="The word &quot;anger&quot; is misguiding you, sorry for that. There are several forum threads on the internet about how to translate the Swedish word I'm looking for. Suggestions include &quot;fighting spirit&quot; and &quot;anger-controlled determination&quot;." CreationDate="2012-02-22T09:48:31.023" UserId="231" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="818" PostId="551" Score="0" Text="I'e updated my question and explained the &quot;anger&quot; part" CreationDate="2012-02-22T10:11:03.367" UserId="231" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="819" PostId="554" Score="0" Text="I'e updated my question and explained the &quot;anger&quot; part" CreationDate="2012-02-22T10:11:08.577" UserId="231" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="820" PostId="562" Score="0" Text="I'e updated my question and explained the &quot;anger&quot; part" CreationDate="2012-02-22T10:11:16.393" UserId="231" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="821" PostId="563" Score="3" Text="I think this and many other questions are accepting answers too quickly - Shihan(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shihan) is a common Japanese title meaning Master and in Chinese Martial Arts Master is a quite common term." CreationDate="2012-02-22T11:33:54.267" UserId="83" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="822" PostId="539" Score="0" Text="I think this might be better named a &quot;posture&quot; - stance in my vernacular usually refers just to the feet and their positioning." CreationDate="2012-02-22T11:35:44.467" UserId="83" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="823" PostId="536" Score="0" Text="Awesome bout @BobCross - thanks for the link. Will have to show it to my kids. As an aside - did you see the pattern videos I popped up on our local TKD website? http://tkdbroxburn.co.uk/patterns.html (that isn't me in the videos, by the way :-)" CreationDate="2012-02-22T12:47:16.057" UserId="57" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="824" PostId="551" Score="0" Text="I had a feeling we were talking around the same concept.  The explanation still doesn't change my answer.  Technique sparring is still an excellent way to build up confidence in the techniques--and her ability to execute them.  When anger arises, it's time to stop and help her regain that confidence." CreationDate="2012-02-22T13:03:59.373" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="825" PostId="536" Score="0" Text="@RoryAlsop, you're welcome.  I agree - that bout is fascinating and terrifying at the same time.  Both of those men are far outside my weight class (and I'm in an age bracket where I know better).  The forms on your site are interesting - I had never seen how cross-shaped chon ji really is.  On a side note, the bounce that the performer does before every move is very distracting for me.  Different styles...." CreationDate="2012-02-22T13:08:50.557" UserId="121" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="826" PostId="536" Score="0" Text="They do put a huge focus on that 'sine wave' body movement, yes. Very ITF specific, I think. That guy won patterns in Scotland and the UK for a number of years." CreationDate="2012-02-22T13:24:48.723" UserId="57" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="827" PostId="565" Score="0" Text="+1 Very true - in class, the students call me &quot;doctor Cross&quot; - if they called me &quot;mister Cross&quot;, I and my two sons would all turn at the same time...." CreationDate="2012-02-22T13:52:29.903" UserId="121" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="828" PostId="568" Score="1" Text="Remember to start low to the ground as well.  It will allow you to be less afraid of the ground, and work on your technique.  Eventually, however, you will have to just stand up and fall until you realize that you have trained yourself to be relatively safe" CreationDate="2012-02-22T13:54:08.700" UserId="61" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="829" PostId="539" Score="0" Text="Good idea. Title renamed. However, there is no tag yet named &quot;posture&quot;. Can you create one?" CreationDate="2012-02-22T14:22:01.777" UserId="269" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="830" PostId="562" Score="0" Text="ahh,  that makes some sense,  the basics of my answer still stand.   more mental training is what she needs." CreationDate="2012-02-22T14:25:22.080" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="831" PostId="544" Score="0" Text="I think I'll accept this answer because I like that you pointed out several aspects: it can be multiple attackers, it depends on the context, and it still can belong to a weapon form." CreationDate="2012-02-22T14:25:47.963" UserId="269" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="832" PostId="564" Score="0" Text="Asking for more sources on http://history.stackexchange.com/questions/1447/master-title-for-fencing" CreationDate="2012-02-22T14:37:47.060" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="833" PostId="564" Score="0" Text="Cool, thanks for the link and the question. I have modified what I said to make it a little broader, include a few more cultures, and make my point more explicit." CreationDate="2012-02-22T16:33:31.027" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="834" PostId="549" Score="1" Text="Cheers. I like the points you made; I only disagree with a blind person being unable to avoid anything other than a grab. Cheers." CreationDate="2012-02-22T16:45:05.380" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="835" PostId="554" Score="1" Text="I will stand by my statement: You can't (or rather _really_ shouldn't) coach her on attitude or approach if you are dating her.   You can be supportive–particularly when she is struggling or failing–and you can point her at resources that might help.  But at a very fundamental level attitude and confidence are something that a coach needs to manage and help her with, in ways that you are not in a position to help with." CreationDate="2012-02-22T16:45:57.953" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="836" PostId="563" Score="0" Text="*Shihan* (師範) comes from the characters &quot;expert/master/teacher&quot; and &quot;model&quot;. It should ***not*** be misconstrued solely as &quot;master&quot;, but viewed as an exemplary specimen of a *-jutsu*. *Soke* is also commonly mistranslated as &quot;Grandmaster&quot;, but refers solely to a lineage head (and his associated responsibilities).  +1 to @BobCross for nailing this as too localized – propriety would be on a per-school basis." CreationDate="2012-02-22T17:20:48.173" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="837" PostId="574" Score="1" Text="Per a recurring theme on [meta](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/), stage combat and the like a trending off-topic. Question may need closing. Perhaps better suited to [Theatre](http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/23762/theatre)?" CreationDate="2012-02-22T19:30:08.480" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="838" PostId="574" Score="3" Text="I would argue that this is should be on here because members would know martial arts moves and how to adapt them. I kind of wish we could share a question across two sites." CreationDate="2012-02-22T19:42:56.070" UserId="282" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="839" PostId="554" Score="1" Text="Totally agree: if you're engaged, you can't give objective feedback.  That said, you can talk about &quot;what worked for me&quot; and see if that's useful.  Realize: it might not help.  Her issues are not your issues." CreationDate="2012-02-22T20:16:53.183" UserId="121" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="840" PostId="574" Score="1" Text="I'm not sure that we actually would, because while we know the martial arts principles, I find that what people think martial arts looks like… isn't what it actually looks like.  Meanwhile, there are entire courses in stage combat that aren't reliant on a martial arts background.  It's been touched on, but I'd suggest opening a meta topic specifically on the topicality of this question." CreationDate="2012-02-22T21:18:50.403" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="841" PostId="574" Score="0" Text="@DavidH.Clements et al: Topic broached explicitly on [meta](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/120/topicality-of-martial-arts-for-stage-combat)." CreationDate="2012-02-23T00:16:16.580" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="842" PostId="564" Score="0" Text="You are most welcome." CreationDate="2012-02-23T07:19:38.250" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="843" PostId="549" Score="1" Text="If you can find a way for them to be able to avoid non-grabbing attacks, I would be interested in finding out how.  BTW, it does depend on the level of blindness the person has.  Of course, you can test those methods by just putting on a blind fold...  Maybe inviting accidents there." CreationDate="2012-02-23T08:15:49.753" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="844" PostId="563" Score="0" Text="http://history.stackexchange.com/questions/1447/master-title-for-fencing" CreationDate="2012-02-23T09:51:48.887" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="845" PostId="539" Score="0" Text="done - you just type in the tag you want (at least that's what I did)" CreationDate="2012-02-23T11:11:51.443" UserId="83" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="846" PostId="579" Score="0" Text="aikido no have kick attacks. Have all the rest attacks and when you do the techniques you learn to strike together with the technique. Just this strikes are come with time and is not the first think that you learn, how ever have strikes. (called atemi). Says that atemi are 80% of the technique ! and with our some times you can not make technique work in real world" CreationDate="2012-02-23T12:16:04.430" UserId="267" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="847" PostId="579" Score="4" Text="-1 Aikido does have atemi and attacks.  For example, ikyo/ikajo/oshi taoshi (same techniques, different names) can be initiated by tori as a shomen uchi strike that uke blocks.  Tori then can apply the technique on uke's elbow which is now in the &quot;right&quot; place." CreationDate="2012-02-23T12:20:59.213" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="848" PostId="579" Score="0" Text="I was taught that those atemi are not supposed to be real attacks (any more). Instead they are used to distract the attacker while completing the technique. I know aikido schools that use a knee-kick-atemi with kaitennage throws" CreationDate="2012-02-23T12:30:39.030" UserId="286" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="852" PostId="582" Score="0" Text="What style/art are you practising?" CreationDate="2012-02-23T14:04:52.783" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="853" PostId="582" Score="0" Text="It really doesn't have a formal name.  All I can say is that it grew up in Korea about the same time as TKD, but it incorporates jujitsu, and Okinawan go ju ryu as well.  It came to the US from my sensei's sensei during the Korean war." CreationDate="2012-02-23T14:27:44.203" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="855" PostId="582" Score="0" Text="IN that case you may not get anything... I would suggest making written notes and/or take a video of you and your sensei doing the kata." CreationDate="2012-02-23T14:40:02.847" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="856" PostId="570" Score="0" Text="The break fall video is great. I should try those falling techniques. I saw a [540 tutorial](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLysnY57J-o) from the same master and he is making it seems very easy.&#xA;&#xA;I could do about 8-10 tornado kick in a row. But the last few kicks are not really kick :P I always move to the left side and they are not clean kick. I feel that once I can keep in position after each kick, I can do as many kick as I like. But tornado kick is a bit different coz I always got a leg pointing to the ground. But 360, 540 needs both legs in the air." CreationDate="2012-02-23T14:45:59.440" UserId="281" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="857" PostId="582" Score="0" Text="I believe the dan katas are taken from Tang Soo Do: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyeong#Tang_Soo_Do_hyeong" CreationDate="2012-02-23T14:51:20.243" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="858" PostId="583" Score="0" Text="I'll have to find a copy of these books to make sure it's the same kata--but it looks promising." CreationDate="2012-02-23T14:52:13.143" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="859" PostId="582" Score="0" Text="I'm thinking video will help." CreationDate="2012-02-23T14:52:32.833" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="860" PostId="582" Score="0" Text="There are a couple of variations of _passai_ on youtube. Do any of them look familiar?" CreationDate="2012-02-23T14:56:33.030" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="861" PostId="582" Score="0" Text="This looks _similar_ : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXPZFarJMh0" CreationDate="2012-02-23T15:00:34.383" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="862" PostId="577" Score="0" Text="It would help some for answering if I knew a little more about the context you have heard it in with reference to Aikido.  _Misogi_ is more of a shinto concept." CreationDate="2012-02-23T16:27:30.427" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="863" PostId="577" Score="0" Text="@DavidH.Clements I have here that on aikido, this is not mean that is aikido only. Here is a book for example that I read it http://www.amazon.com/Secrets-Aikido-John-Stevens/dp/1570622353/  search on look inside to see the pages" CreationDate="2012-02-23T17:17:58.693" UserId="267" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="865" PostId="549" Score="0" Text="We train using blindfolds a lot, starting with shoving attacks, and progressing up to striking. The intent, as I was taught, was to train in *sakkijutsu*, which is necessary for passing our test for *godan*. This same method can be applied, I'm sure, to training the blind; it's essentially using your other senses and trusting your subconscious to move you to a safe place." CreationDate="2012-02-23T17:32:38.820" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="866" PostId="585" Score="0" Text="harmony, is a greek word, come from αρμονία -&gt; αρμός, armos -&gt; means the connection, the joint, the point that you connect/join more than one thinks together in a way that they can not split/seperate. Eg when you dock the ship with cord, the point of connection called armos, when you connect the music notes together -&gt; harmonia. (The harm-ony is false)." CreationDate="2012-02-23T18:54:54.657" UserId="267" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="868" PostId="580" Score="0" Text="The only kick that I remember is one on the face when you have the uke face down, or lower, but never make up/high kicks. Kicks that you upper your leg more than your knee." CreationDate="2012-02-23T19:05:04.880" UserId="267" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="869" PostId="585" Score="7" Text="@Aristos: The &quot;harm-ony&quot; was a pun. It was not meant with any seriousness, but as a bit of humor to illustrate a point. This is simply lost in translation. As for your second comment, I'm afraid I don't understand your point. The reason for the &quot;love and harmony&quot; was not to spread the art, but because of a series of epiphanies he had during *misogi*." CreationDate="2012-02-23T19:05:26.917" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="871" PostId="566" Score="0" Text="Good to hear the update. If you feel you've received an answer that suits your needs and answers your question, please consider selecting an answer by clicking the check mark. If not, then you can wait to see if you receive a better answer." CreationDate="2012-02-23T19:15:52.567" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="872" PostId="544" Score="0" Text="That's interesting. In Taegeuk Pal-Jang, the technique is done as one. What about the speed of the technique? There's usually room for interpretation in that as well, but it could also be an indication of what it may be used for. Also worth keeping in mind is that forms are usually a way of practicing techniques that would otherwise be used in a more dynamic fashion (i.e. sparring)." CreationDate="2012-02-23T19:20:30.347" UserId="271" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="876" PostId="578" Score="0" Text="Some aikido derivatives have put them back in. [*Yoseikan Budo*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoseikan_Budo) does some kicking, though I find that you have to be fast to kick aikido people and get away with it. As one of the answers suggests: better for disruption than big guns." CreationDate="2012-02-23T21:11:30.833" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="878" PostId="587" Score="1" Text="Sweeps (which are kicks) above the knee, but I don't think that's part of conventional Aikido." CreationDate="2012-02-23T22:10:54.377" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="879" PostId="574" Score="1" Text="@Paul: I would appreciate it if you posted your view in the [meta discussion](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/120/topicality-of-martial-arts-for-stage-combat). This is something that needs to be discussed while we're in beta, and it's good to have both opinions stated to be voted on." CreationDate="2012-02-24T00:30:37.260" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="880" PostId="586" Score="0" Text="Now I have 6 more questions for the 6 elements :) - this midle way called &quot;αρετή&quot; in greece, and actually there is not correct world in other languages. Socrates search for the meaning of this word but never say clear what it is." CreationDate="2012-02-24T06:59:23.913" UserId="267" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="881" PostId="586" Score="0" Text="Can I ask you something simple: do you have practice misogi ?" CreationDate="2012-02-24T07:06:34.637" UserId="267" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="882" PostId="566" Score="0" Text="Too bad I can check only one answer." CreationDate="2012-02-24T07:20:35.150" UserId="281" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="884" PostId="583" Score="0" Text="The second book looks as though it goes over the kata I learned.  The execution of some of the techniques looks different, but that is likely the difference between shotakon and tang soo do approaches to the kata.  The main reason for having a book is in case I have another layoff, I need to jog my memory." CreationDate="2012-02-24T16:50:47.067" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="885" PostId="586" Score="0" Text="I have not practiced it. I know of it because I study Japanese martial arts, and the subjects that touch on them, *Shinto* being one. I do not believe in ritual purification, but understand the psychology behind such actions." CreationDate="2012-02-24T16:53:09.387" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="886" PostId="586" Score="0" Text="is phyhology or body purification/exercise ?" CreationDate="2012-02-24T16:55:49.863" UserId="267" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="887" PostId="586" Score="0" Text="There's no difference between ritual purification's effect and its underlying psychological cause. αρετή (Arete in English) is not the middle way so much... Arete carries almost a connotation of being excellent, or above things. The middle way is more taking the path of least resistance. When Izanagi-no-Kami moved into the river, he chose a part neither too swift nor too sluggish. This would be finding harmony." CreationDate="2012-02-24T17:01:49.453" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="888" PostId="590" Score="0" Text="Do you know anyone that practices this? Or better yet, crossed hands with a practitioner? If you have, I'm interested in hearing more about it in your answer." CreationDate="2012-02-25T05:34:55.633" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="890" PostId="554" Score="2" Text="The point of asking this question was to aquire ways of bracing her. You are focusing on me as a coach, which is completely irrelevant in order to help her. As I've said; I will not coach or train her, I want tips on what to say when supporting her in training the mindset she feels lacking. Hell, I won't even be looking at the trainings. BUT, if I know what she needs, I can support her and point the instructor in the right direction." CreationDate="2012-02-25T13:28:12.093" UserId="231" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="892" PostId="142" Score="1" Text="I second slow-motion practice, not only for kicks, but for just about anything that involves balance." CreationDate="2012-02-25T17:14:26.863" UserId="186" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="893" PostId="554" Score="0" Text="Actually, I'd argue that you as a coach is highly relevant if you are going to be the one helping her, as is your relationship.  I can't help a friend the same way I can help a student, and I can't help a student the same way I can help a friend.  How &quot;open minded&quot; your relationship is here is irrelevant.  The communication just isn't the same, and conflation can prevent effectiveness in one context while encouraging it in another.  If you want a very clear example of how this works, look up Dual Relationships in Psychology and Counseling." CreationDate="2012-02-25T18:31:03.927" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="894" PostId="590" Score="0" Text="@Ho-ShengHsiao I have not met anyone personally, all my knowledge about it is hearsay." CreationDate="2012-02-25T19:38:29.300" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="895" PostId="577" Score="0" Text="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misogi" CreationDate="2012-02-23T12:31:54.380" UserId="286" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="896" PostId="550" Score="0" Text="I used to do Kanzen, later Kyokushin, Kanzen put too much emphasise on the style where as Kyokushin was far more strength based ( stil technically minded trumpted the brut force). Is she comfortable sparring with anyone? If she could treat the competition the same way as a comfortable sparring session maybe she would feel less pressured and enjoy it more. Otherwise if she keeps not enjoying the comps then switch styles, not all the styles fit everybody the same. The more exposure she gets to differnt styles the less presserued she'd feel." CreationDate="2012-02-26T03:42:49.233" UserId="194" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="897" PostId="579" Score="2" Text="Well, there are different styles so saying &quot;aikido has no attacks&quot; is not correct in general. For example, the way I was taught atemi should be a real strike in order to either force the opponent to defend and thus lose the balance and enable your technique, or if he fails to defend - well, he gets punched in the face, that works too :) after that, his balance probably won't be that good either. Of course, compared to strike-oriented disciplines aikido gives much less attention to strikes, but that does not mean no attacks at all." CreationDate="2012-02-26T11:19:32.877" UserId="49" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="898" PostId="531" Score="2" Text="There may be little books on this topic, but there are lots of videos of those kata on Youtube. Isn't it enough for you?" CreationDate="2012-02-27T16:38:13.420" UserDisplayName="user91" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="899" PostId="531" Score="0" Text="@IaroslavKovtunenko yes of course video is good, did not have found, maybe wrong keywords..." CreationDate="2012-02-27T18:06:09.120" UserId="267" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="900" PostId="594" Score="1" Text="Sadly, the majority of information I've come across has been rather poor. I do rather like Hatsumi Masaaki's material from [Knife and Pistol Fighting (ナイフ・ピストルファイティング)](http://www.amazon.com/Knife-Pistol-Fighting-Masaaki-Hatsumi/dp/0940005034/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1330385491&amp;sr=8-1)" CreationDate="2012-02-27T23:33:06.267" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="901" PostId="593" Score="0" Text="BTS High Gear looks great, though really expensive. Looks like we'll be looking for face masks from passage 4. Thanks for the answer!" CreationDate="2012-02-28T08:09:44.613" UserDisplayName="user91" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="902" PostId="595" Score="0" Text="You can strengthen your wrists with hand gyroscope — 'powerball'. This helps me a lot doing badminton and knife fighting." CreationDate="2012-02-28T08:38:50.957" UserDisplayName="user91" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="903" PostId="234" Score="0" Text="Sorry, but what is a scratch stick?" CreationDate="2012-02-28T08:55:14.523" UserDisplayName="user91" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="904" PostId="599" Score="1" Text="Note: not taping up (and not putting gloves on) may result in severe damage to hands if striking improperly." CreationDate="2012-02-28T13:26:54.000" UserDisplayName="user91" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="905" PostId="599" Score="2" Text="That's why you focus on technique.  Power can come later." CreationDate="2012-02-28T13:38:28.683" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="906" PostId="593" Score="0" Text="Having pranced about with a sabre mask for several hours a week, for several years, I've not found that a well-fitted fencing mask slides about. However, loaners tend to be less well-fitted, so for &quot;club masks&quot; (rather than individual ones), your 'slides about' stands." CreationDate="2012-02-28T14:43:01.243" UserId="96" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="907" PostId="234" Score="0" Text="As above: &quot;A much less expensive solution that Kevin Secours taught was the scratch stick. He describes in a video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaHVDSwk6Vs&quot;" CreationDate="2012-02-28T19:18:52.590" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="908" PostId="593" Score="0" Text="@IaroslavKovtunenko Think of the BTS High Gear being the optimal solution, whereas the others are work-around solutions. The initial investment is higher, but the end result is a far-safer practice. You might update your question with a budget, though, and you might get other answers with better suggestions in your price range." CreationDate="2012-02-28T19:23:58.243" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="909" PostId="595" Score="1" Text="Also check out the answers to [building up grip strength](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/294/what-are-good-exercises-for-building-grip-strength-for-judo-and-bjj)." CreationDate="2012-02-28T20:36:58.513" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="910" PostId="591" Score="0" Text="Ok I get the principles of what you're saying, I can't physically close my guard around that knee that is up so move it out of the way or maneuver the person or myself until it is.&#xA;&#xA;I will try  &#xA;- Pulling on their collar to make them move forward and put the knee down&#xA;- Kicking the knee out so they have to reset&#xA;&#xA;Thanks for that!" CreationDate="2012-02-28T23:14:17.103" UserId="123" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="911" PostId="593" Score="0" Text="@stslavik Agree, in the long term BTS High Gear is what we shall use. In short term, we need a plus-minus workaround." CreationDate="2012-02-29T10:33:02.860" UserDisplayName="user91" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="912" PostId="593" Score="0" Text="@stslavik For the price, it may vary too much (50-300%) for the USA and for Ukraine to specify its range, so I'd better not add that to question." CreationDate="2012-02-29T10:35:02.483" UserDisplayName="user91" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="913" PostId="605" Score="0" Text="The problem with fencing mask is its size: many hits to the mask won't even touch his head if he was bare-headed." CreationDate="2012-02-29T10:38:49.480" UserDisplayName="user91" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="914" PostId="593" Score="0" Text="@IaroslavKovtunenko Interesting... We may need a protocol for dealing with recommendations internationally (perhaps exchange rates?). Thanks for bringing up that point!" CreationDate="2012-02-29T17:06:18.613" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="915" PostId="600" Score="0" Text="Hmm. Does that escape you mention truly work while stepping? I understand doing this for the sunsu opening move (one wrist grabbed, or both) but here, with the hand coming back to the hip, it seems like you'd have to use force to make it work. What am I missing?" CreationDate="2012-03-01T14:29:08.343" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="917" PostId="594" Score="0" Text="I don't know if it's any good, but there is also [Tanto: Japanese Knives and Knife Fighting](http://www.amazon.com/Tanto-Japanese-Knives-Knife-Fighting/dp/0865680787) by Russell Maynard" CreationDate="2012-03-01T20:46:02.437" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="918" PostId="615" Score="1" Text="I agree with both slugster and Sardathrion. You might be able to use the home training as extra practice of already learned techniques, but **only** if she'll accept your criticism. Don't learn her anything new, that's for the dojo." CreationDate="2012-03-02T07:42:24.697" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="919" PostId="615" Score="2" Text="+1 from me too. My Sensei always says: *If you think you can, you're right. If you think you can't you're also right.* Unfortunately newer students are full of the *can't* and it takes them a while to realize they *can*." CreationDate="2012-03-02T08:48:41.777" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="921" PostId="615" Score="2" Text="+1 for a good clarification--I do think that practicing *only* outside of the dojo is on balance a bad idea, as slugster said, but I think supplementing class with outside practice will probably be very helpful." CreationDate="2012-03-02T21:17:06.497" UserId="45" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="922" PostId="391" Score="0" Text="The question was edited specifying that after I posted my answer" CreationDate="2012-03-06T06:51:13.967" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="928" PostId="621" Score="0" Text="I heard that one can only join a school at early age. I am 30+ can I go to learn it?" CreationDate="2012-03-07T04:49:47.493" UserId="288" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="930" PostId="621" Score="1" Text="Kindly see [this](http://www.kalaripayattu.org/index.htm). Please go through the website in detail. If you feel it's worth asking them about further details, I'll be glad to help anytime." CreationDate="2012-03-07T05:59:34.267" UserId="304" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="932" PostId="594" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the reference, I'll check it out.  Unfortunately the vast majority of references I've found on knife fighting are really atrocious &gt;_&lt;" CreationDate="2012-03-07T07:56:39.087" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="934" PostId="625" Score="0" Text="Just to confirm, you are asking about vital or physiological points, rather than pressure points that are meridian (acupuncture) based?" CreationDate="2012-03-07T09:25:03.873" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="935" PostId="628" Score="0" Text="This is an interesting question, though the differences you seek in the kwans may be irrelevant today as those 8-13 kwans are over 50 years old so I think it may really boil down to the differences in each school." CreationDate="2012-03-07T14:25:37.367" UserId="55" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="936" PostId="625" Score="1" Text="Generally the ones that are targeted most frequently map to both, e.g., the one I linked to there is an acupuncture point, but it is also interconnected to a bunch of different nerve tissue.  I also flat don't have it on one side." CreationDate="2012-03-07T14:58:10.260" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="937" PostId="631" Score="2" Text="Back pain... Do see a doctor about it as well and ask if whatever activity you are doing is not going to make it worst." CreationDate="2012-03-07T19:40:50.410" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="938" PostId="631" Score="0" Text="You may also want to see this question about [what martial art to start with](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/466/what-martial-art-should-i-start-with)." CreationDate="2012-03-07T20:24:13.693" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="941" PostId="628" Score="0" Text="Have a look at the answers on my question or not entirely unrelated info: http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/56/57" CreationDate="2012-03-08T08:56:12.763" UserId="57" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="942" PostId="75" Score="1" Text="@DavidH.Clements: Stale topic I know, but different countries have crazy laws, and lots of places don't have any sort of &quot;lethal force warranted&quot; law. A guy in his 50s (frail for his age) in my state (Qld, Australia) was recently charged with excessive force for stabbing an intruder in the stomach (the intruder wasn't badly injured) because the intruder, who was fit, strong, and in his 20s, wasn't armed. Crazy, but true." CreationDate="2012-03-08T09:31:28.457" UserId="48" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="944" PostId="635" Score="1" Text=".. Or you could do tai chi, which does all that for you in a neat little package." CreationDate="2012-03-08T13:08:01.027" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="946" PostId="635" Score="1" Text="1) It is almost always bad to promote any single martial art as an answer, because I could just as easily say &quot;capoeira&quot; which is also true, but in a different way 2) Tai Chi is most emphatically not a substitute for strength training, and won't substitute for yoga or even meditation for everyone (e.g., I frequently prefer _vipassana_). It covers some of the same territory and makes a great compliment, but that doesn't make it a good substitute." CreationDate="2012-03-08T14:28:29.650" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="948" PostId="626" Score="0" Text="Contracts can be both good and bad for the student. It can encourage them to keep coming to class for sure, but if they really don't like it anymore, it is just another expense they pay until the contract is over even after they have stopped going. Students who take a break tend to not come back... life gets in the way. A contract is at least one incentive for the student to come back to class. Overall contracts are not evil, but for those who drop out they are perceived to be." CreationDate="2012-03-08T15:23:26.817" UserId="294" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="955" PostId="635" Score="0" Text="The question is always 'to what degree do I need activity X'." CreationDate="2012-03-08T23:43:55.297" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="958" PostId="643" Score="0" Text="I see your point, because I'm busy as well with uni, and I'll keep it in mind. I believe that there should be the choice though. Also, I think that it's impossible to have a proper physical (not technical) training with only an hour of exercise twice a week, as it's the common in my town." CreationDate="2012-03-10T15:20:58.110" UserId="317" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="959" PostId="643" Score="0" Text="Twice a week is maintenance... Three times a week is improvement. I agree with you. This being said, if you're serious about the arts, and come from a competitive physical background, you should be able to train on your own." CreationDate="2012-03-10T15:26:48.583" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="960" PostId="642" Score="2" Text="not a real question. this question just seems an attempt to solicit debate. Also, asking for good teachers in a whole country is overbroad other than matter of personal opinion." CreationDate="2012-03-10T21:25:22.557" UserId="10" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="961" PostId="636" Score="2" Text="because it's easier." CreationDate="2012-03-10T21:27:47.110" UserId="10" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="962" PostId="642" Score="0" Text="@tacone Italy is not that big, so it's not overbroad." CreationDate="2012-03-10T22:13:25.220" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="963" PostId="642" Score="0" Text="&quot;Browsing a bit, it looks like that the Italian average is sadly this&quot;. That's why I am speaking of a whole country in the question. And there I speak in a dubitative form because I'm aware that it's probably an excessive generalization, but I've been frustrated by the attitude of these teachers." CreationDate="2012-03-11T18:30:04.197" UserId="317" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="964" PostId="642" Score="0" Text="I still don't get what's the real question being asked here." CreationDate="2012-03-11T21:08:14.900" UserId="10" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="965" PostId="642" Score="0" Text="Renowned schools or teachers." CreationDate="2012-03-11T21:37:27.643" UserId="317" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="966" PostId="648" Score="2" Text="Anecdotally - every gym /dojo I have ever trained in works with light cardio first, then stretching before getting onto the serious business of training." CreationDate="2012-03-11T21:44:37.767" UserId="57" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="967" PostId="647" Score="2" Text="There are some arts that train avoidance instincts. I think you mean, &quot;don't run away blindly.&quot; That's as exploitable as &quot;charge in blindly.&quot;" CreationDate="2012-03-11T23:06:40.573" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="968" PostId="648" Score="3" Text="My personal experience (under a Sensei with lots of sports science related qualifications) echoes the studies you mention. Your muscles have way less elasticity while cold so stretching then can be at best ineffective or at worst detrimental, a light to moderate warmup should be done first." CreationDate="2012-03-12T03:03:59.213" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="969" PostId="590" Score="1" Text="This is a dying art, even in India I haven't come across any practitioners. It is mostly taught in the state of Kerala, in mostly closed circles. Outsiders don't reach advanced levels, from what I've heard." CreationDate="2012-03-12T06:19:07.457" UserId="108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="970" PostId="637" Score="0" Text="The attacker often is not more experienced in our class but I think I get your point" CreationDate="2012-03-12T08:11:10.220" UserId="314" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="971" PostId="639" Score="0" Text="I asked my teacher the same question and he made the same point as you, so I think your answer is best." CreationDate="2012-03-12T08:15:55.317" UserId="314" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="972" PostId="649" Score="1" Text="hayabusa makes good stuff, but it's likely overkill and over rated, and is double the price b/c it's stylish. when i was training muay thai and mma alot, i used these: http://www.renegademmagear.com/Grappling_Shin_Guards.htm they are solid, and good if you are doing any grappling because they are a sleeve instead of straps." CreationDate="2012-03-12T13:57:46.037" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="974" PostId="656" Score="1" Text="I voted to close as it seems to reflect only your local area pricing practices." CreationDate="2012-03-12T15:06:32.267" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="977" PostId="644" Score="2" Text="Great question. I'm saddened that it even has to be asked..." CreationDate="2012-03-12T17:57:41.413" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="979" PostId="641" Score="0" Text="I know youtube videos are helpful, and certainly I'll take a look, but sometimes you don't have access to the internet or you want annotations on what the pattern is doing. It's a good comment, but it doesn't answer the question." CreationDate="2012-03-12T18:11:56.513" UserId="45" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="980" PostId="650" Score="2" Text="You may want to do as you are told but I wouldn't recommend begging   for mercy. That can trigger a violent response from a naturally violent person." CreationDate="2012-03-12T21:17:59.387" UserId="169" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="981" PostId="661" Score="0" Text="Interesting answer. I need to digest it. I believe you may want to reorder some paragraphs. For instance, I would put the list from &quot;Where is my exit&quot; to &quot;How far...&quot; BEFORE &quot;What am I prepared to die for&quot; and &quot;what am I prepared to kill for&quot;, as it is an escalation in the necessity of the situation. This keeps consistency with your earlier scenario explaining the mistakes you've made, and when your training took over." CreationDate="2012-03-13T00:54:20.070" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="982" PostId="661" Score="0" Text="In addition, I disagree with your conclusion. It is not always a life and death situation, and I am highly hesitant to mark this as my answer, since as I understand it, your conclusion simply disregards everything else you wrote (I may be wrong, of course, but that is what I understand)." CreationDate="2012-03-13T00:55:40.350" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="983" PostId="664" Score="0" Text="That is an excellent point." CreationDate="2012-03-13T00:56:51.703" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="984" PostId="663" Score="0" Text="Where do you jam your toe? On the mat? On your partner? In your gi? In your partner's gi?" CreationDate="2012-03-13T01:16:44.410" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="985" PostId="663" Score="0" Text="Yes on the mat, usually while trying to catch my balance." CreationDate="2012-03-13T01:31:59.197" UserId="325" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="986" PostId="661" Score="1" Text="Noted, but my ordering is correct in the time in which it must be considered. Further, my conclusion is misunderstood: Not every situation is life and death, but you must be prepared for it as though it is; one more wrong move and it may well be just that." CreationDate="2012-03-13T01:49:47.140" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="987" PostId="650" Score="0" Text="I would rather call it a compromise than begging for mercy.. :) I do agree that it might trigger a violent response from a naturally violent person as you say, but then, at the end of the day, it's about life itself that we are talking about.. For a person who is highly trained in self defense, this scenario could be a piece of cake but for a common man, it could just spell disaster.." CreationDate="2012-03-13T04:39:30.067" UserId="304" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="988" PostId="669" Score="1" Text="Note that the stretches are static but we do a 10 min running warm up before stretching." CreationDate="2012-03-13T11:59:29.933" UserId="268" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="989" PostId="666" Score="1" Text="how you step is so important! this is a great answer.  I'm a little surprised @detour 's sensei hasn't shown him proper stepping!" CreationDate="2012-03-13T13:59:12.997" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="990" PostId="663" Score="0" Text="are you toes catching on mat edges? or just sticking to the mats?  does your dojo have proper tatami? or wrestling mats?" CreationDate="2012-03-13T14:00:22.340" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="991" PostId="667" Score="12" Text="you shouldn't be sparing in boxing without head gear. go buy some.  now." CreationDate="2012-03-13T14:01:34.613" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="992" PostId="641" Score="0" Text="@RSid Youtube videos (or movies or books) are only useful if you understand the art, and understand it well. If you do not have a reference from which to draw, you will not learn anything, and, more likely, end up creating very big mistakes." CreationDate="2012-03-13T15:38:38.837" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="993" PostId="640" Score="0" Text="What style of Escrima? I can think of some 50 different styles..." CreationDate="2012-03-13T15:59:09.817" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="994" PostId="641" Score="0" Text="@stslavik ...yes. Which is why I practice at a dojo with a teacher and my classmates on a regular basis. I'm merely curious about what books are out there and interested in using one as a supplement." CreationDate="2012-03-13T16:00:11.410" UserId="45" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="995" PostId="641" Score="0" Text="@RSid Good to hear, but not everyone is the same; any advice that references back to media should be reviewed time and time again throughout your training. You'll have different viewpoints at different stages. Best of luck!" CreationDate="2012-03-13T16:06:11.807" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="996" PostId="640" Score="0" Text="Good question-the problem is my teacher is using his own particular style. Here's a link to his description of it :http://www.defensormethod.com/ Obviously I'm not expecting any books to be available that follow his method, but I'm interested in reading about the styles that gave rise to it/that are closely related." CreationDate="2012-03-13T16:09:04.753" UserId="45" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="998" PostId="640" Score="1" Text="Then for doce pares I hear these are supposed to be good. http://www.imafit.com/ProShop.html Can't speak to them personally." CreationDate="2012-03-13T16:24:33.407" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="999" PostId="666" Score="0" Text="thanks I think this is what will help the most. @Patricia, its an MMA school and while I've been doing jujitsu throws for over 2 years, judo is a recent addition. Will mention it to the judo sensei to be sure I get it right." CreationDate="2012-03-13T19:39:20.230" UserId="325" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1000" PostId="671" Score="1" Text="Thanks for the replies. I had a few black eyes, deep cuts, light head trauma for a weekend. I had sparring partners with 3yrs+ experience and they didn't seem to hold back, although I told them + no headgear.&#xA;&#xA;Anyways, I like the sport and will join another club. Thanks guys" CreationDate="2012-03-13T21:16:03.887" UserId="326" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1001" PostId="661" Score="0" Text="You know, if I disagree with you, telling me that you're right is not the way to get me to agree. Why is your ordering correct? Also, if your conclusion is misunderstood, then maybe a small edit is in order to make sure no misunderstanding is possible." CreationDate="2012-03-13T21:50:31.160" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1002" PostId="661" Score="0" Text="I'm telling you that I ordered things the way I did purposefully. If you come to a conclusion that is other than that intended, then my answer wasn't for you, but perhaps it will be for someone else who does understand it. I stand by my answer and its formatting." CreationDate="2012-03-13T23:01:33.653" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1003" PostId="672" Score="2" Text="Japanese is a very orderly language and the is considerable redundancy in the descriptive vocabulary, so in time the effort of adding a new term will go down." CreationDate="2012-03-13T23:53:01.210" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1004" PostId="674" Score="0" Text="Good point. @Nils – What style/branch of Aikido are you studying? (Aikikai, Yoshinkai, Tomiki-ryu, etc.)" CreationDate="2012-03-14T16:24:58.533" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1005" PostId="656" Score="0" Text="Seconding @Sardathrion. Further, what one person finds &quot;expensive&quot;, another finds reasonable. [Perceived value of money](http://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/perceived-value.asp#axzz1p73DbzJd)." CreationDate="2012-03-14T17:20:26.000" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1008" PostId="656" Score="6" Text="Well I did express costs as relative to what I've paid at other places. So the question does not deal either with location nor with lifestyle. It's a question about the ratio of cost per class of traditional arts vs cost per class of Krav Maga." CreationDate="2012-03-14T17:56:18.940" UserId="245" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1010" PostId="661" Score="0" Text="So you're not going to explain to me why your ordering is correct?" CreationDate="2012-03-14T19:43:47.440" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1011" PostId="661" Score="1" Text="Frankly, I don't see the point. My post followed a linear order of consideration: You are learning first for what is worth engaging in a fight then how to properly disengage. It still all boils down to my conclusion: I survived a dangerous situation because I did what I had to do to survive, and that makes my experience correct for me. If you can't understand it, then I say again my answer is not for you." CreationDate="2012-03-14T21:12:23.617" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1012" PostId="675" Score="5" Text="An important variant form of per lesson plan I've been seeing is to purchase lessons in bulk. So you can purchase, say, a set of 10—30 lessons together in one package but when you use them is up to you.  This has the advantage from a teacher standpoint of securing a certain amount of income up front, while providing the student significant flexibility." CreationDate="2012-03-14T21:36:10.397" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1013" PostId="675" Score="2" Text="@DavidH.Clements: Good point. I used a system of tickets for a while when I was teaching private lessons; I'd sell lessons in packs of 5, and they'd get a ticket book to redeem the lessons (like a gift certificate, except I had a matching serial-numbered half of their book to compare against). For group classes, I found it problematic to track since I'm a one-man operation." CreationDate="2012-03-14T21:55:17.047" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1014" PostId="673" Score="0" Text="Great - that is what I was looking for!" CreationDate="2012-03-14T22:00:00.663" UserId="328" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1015" PostId="656" Score="0" Text="Factor in locality, density of instruction, cost relative to style, level of insurance held, number of students, relative training... Ultimately, the cost of doing business for Krav Maga versus Taekwondo is Apples to Oranges, in which case it's economics and perceived value. Your perceived pattern may simply be an aberration or perceptual illusion (When I was in Vegas, for instance, KM was $65 a month; I paid $80 a month for ninpo; a friend of mine paid $120 a month for TKD)." CreationDate="2012-03-14T22:03:07.177" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1016" PostId="62" Score="0" Text="The scoring in ITF is also different from WTF. In ITF, punching is emphasized more and kicks are for &quot;finishing moves,&quot; while WTF is all about kicks." CreationDate="2012-03-14T23:31:52.577" UserId="268" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1017" PostId="645" Score="2" Text="Great answer. I would add, to the list of things to look at, my favourite: are the higher-ranked students obviously much better than the newer ones? It can be really hard, especially for an inexperienced martial artist, to tell if a student is 'good' - but it's often pretty easy to see when someone is clearly better than someone else. If the experienced students outshine the newer ones, you know the training is effective. If the black belts don't look much more competent than the white belts, something is wrong." CreationDate="2012-03-16T05:12:08.160" UserId="48" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1018" PostId="643" Score="1" Text="Many very good martial arts schools are focused on teaching technique - and will leave physical fitness up to you. Most students at my school come twice a week, and while you can definitely see major technical improvement over time, you won't see their fitness improve at that level. You're expected to do your own fitness work.&#xA;&#xA;That said, while I was studying at uni I sometimes fit in 8-10 hours of classes a week - and that definitely kept me super-fit. I used to help teach the junior class, then do two adult classes in a row: look for somewhere you can do consecutive classes if you want that." CreationDate="2012-03-16T05:16:56.587" UserId="48" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1019" PostId="640" Score="0" Text="@stslavik Cool, thanks. You might want to make that an answer--I'm still going to hold off for a bit and see what more shows up, but so far that's the best lead." CreationDate="2012-03-16T15:07:39.607" UserId="45" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1020" PostId="671" Score="3" Text="Christ! In my sparing group, once someone is even slightly hurt, we pause the spar, ask them if they can continue, and if they can then we continue sparing. The worst thats happend while I've been at the group was a jammed foot (unfortunately I was the victim)." CreationDate="2012-03-17T01:15:49.243" UserId="268" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1021" PostId="671" Score="0" Text="Good points, @Russel. I'll add them to my answer for easier access for other visitors." CreationDate="2012-03-17T12:23:09.977" UserId="30" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1022" PostId="681" Score="4" Text="Who do you think is entitled to define &quot;legitimate&quot;? For that matter who do think should keep a registry, and what do you believe would be a good set of qualifying requirements? Do you have a particular reason to believe that the skills you learned are not useful (note that this is a very different thing than having a long history)?" CreationDate="2012-03-17T17:36:16.147" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1023" PostId="682" Score="1" Text="All I know is that school tried very hard to get as much money out of us.  Then they would put you on a fast track to black belt.  After all the channel 9 news and arrests, I left and found Kung Fu, where the instructors barely took money, no belts or tests but extreme training a passing down of the knowledge they had.  That to me is what martial arts should be not a business." CreationDate="2012-03-18T05:56:47.130" UserId="263" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1026" PostId="679" Score="2" Text="Nice answer and welcome to the site ^_^" CreationDate="2012-03-20T02:52:59.653" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1027" PostId="684" Score="0" Text="If there's something you're still feeling isn't answered, let me know. I really simplified a lot of texts and lessons down to a couple hundred words." CreationDate="2012-03-20T15:51:00.327" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1028" PostId="684" Score="0" Text="@stslavik: Your answer is pretty clear and gives me plenty to follow on through.  Thank you. I was familiar with the *zanshin* part and somewhat with *mushin* (from *mushin, mugamae*) but was in the dark as to the rest and did not know the links.  I do now ^_~" CreationDate="2012-03-20T15:53:45.030" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1029" PostId="681" Score="3" Text="I feel there's something that needs to be discussed: that John C. Kim was one of about 13 instructors indicted and later convicted of conspiracy to commit tax fraud. The only other legal action I'm aware of is the consent decree signed between Kim and the AG of Illinois regarding violating consumer fraud acts with his improper contractual conduct. This does not ***necessarily*** indicate illegitimacy in his training and martial arts abilities. In fact, his claims of training are more suspect in relation to martial arts than these aforementioned facts." CreationDate="2012-03-20T16:00:58.390" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1030" PostId="628" Score="0" Text="Have you experienced other instructors within your own *kwan*? Are you sure they share the same philosophical ideals? Within the *Bujinkan*, we have factions, but the majority are just *Bujinkan*; even among these, you will find a near infinite variety of viewpoints all centered around the same teachings... I'm just curious if perhaps you're looking for something that might not necessarily be a macrocosmic interpretation of microcosmic events..." CreationDate="2012-03-20T17:42:11.873" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1031" PostId="628" Score="0" Text="Some clarification: 1) I am not within a kwan and I don't practice TKD 2) I have spoken with other instructors, but I am also very sure from a historical perspective of a difference in the fraternal organizations which carries forward, at least with older instructors.  The original differences were, at least at one point, evidently fairly distinct.  That may be lessened now, but even historical information here would be appreciated." CreationDate="2012-03-21T13:56:58.523" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1032" PostId="682" Score="1" Text="@JPM - Keep in mind that it still costs money for things like mats (which are surprisingly expensive) and a training location, so it shouldn't be unreasonable for an instructor to ask for compensation. There is, however, a difference between charging a tuition and price gouging. When it comes to cost, the question should be (in addition to David's questions) &quot;is this reasonable for what I'm getting?&quot;" CreationDate="2012-03-21T14:11:44.690" UserId="341" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1033" PostId="652" Score="0" Text="I can't speak for the OP's school, but in mine, it's not that leg kicks are &quot;raining down on your shins,&quot; but rather that a number of kicks connect at the kicker's shins." CreationDate="2012-03-21T14:46:43.673" UserId="341" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1034" PostId="661" Score="2" Text="@Trevoke - I think stslavik's point is that you should already have &quot;what am I prepared to kill/die for?&quot; answered long before you're even in such a situation to begin with. The answer to those questions are also going to be fairly constant, whereas &quot;where's the exit?&quot;, &quot;what weapons do they have?&quot;, etc are going to depend entirely on the situation at hand. What you're willing to kill or die for shouldn't be something you're deciding while you're in the middle of an altercation." CreationDate="2012-03-21T15:06:51.707" UserId="341" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1035" PostId="661" Score="0" Text="@Shauna Yes. Very good." CreationDate="2012-03-21T15:47:57.600" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1036" PostId="661" Score="0" Text="@Shauna thanks for the answer. The argument I want to make, in answer to this, is that these questions are not questions someone is able to answer appropriately until they are able to make the assessment exit/weapons/etc. Note that I am not talking situationally but skillwise. So, while situationally, I agree with slavik, I don't think it is the right order for developing the ability to make the decision correctly." CreationDate="2012-03-21T16:50:54.763" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1037" PostId="661" Score="2" Text="@Trevoke Do you love your family? Would you be willing to die for them? What about for your car? Or your wallet? Now that you have that answer, are you willing to live for them with the knowledge that you watched the light go out of a man's eyes for their sake? I'm assuming that you'd probably say yes to your family, less so for your car or wallet. This has nothing to do with your *ability* to inflict these ends, but your *willingness* to face them and overcome your own limitations. &quot;Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear, not absence of fear.&quot; - Mark Twain" CreationDate="2012-03-21T17:06:48.893" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1038" PostId="661" Score="1" Text="@Trevoke - Why can't you answer &quot;what am I willing to kill/die for?&quot; outside of a situation? The question has nothing to do with skill, but what for what you are *willing* to go to such extremes for. If I don't have the means/tools to kill my attacker, then it's a moot point (and it comes back to &quot;what am I willing to die for?&quot;), but if I do, then I've already come to terms with the very real possibility that the person in front of me will die by my hands. Killing someone, even in defense, is a heavy burden. IMO, you should know what is worth it to you *before* you're in a position to kill." CreationDate="2012-03-21T17:24:39.327" UserId="341" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1039" PostId="650" Score="2" Text="&quot;So, I guess it's always better to just comply with that guy and get the hell put of that place to safety.&quot; Essentially, however, you're rolling the dice with your life and your family's lives. A basic point of psychology taught in interrogation techniques applies here: &quot;If he's willing to do *X* to himself, what's he willing to do to me?&quot; For him, *X* is risking prison time... This is part of why muggings are successful, but also why they often go so horribly wrong. Learning to diffuse these situations is great, but at the end, don't leave yourself or other open to harm." CreationDate="2012-03-21T17:36:51.467" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1040" PostId="661" Score="0" Text="@Shauna oh - you CAN answer it. But I am thinking that if you don't have the mental preparedness for the little things (ability to judge where the exits are, etc) then you probably aren't able to make the right judgment call anyway. It has nothing to do with the situation in particular, but with the ability to UNDERSTAND the situation in general. Perfect practice makes perfect, over time." CreationDate="2012-03-21T18:31:08.817" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1041" PostId="661" Score="0" Text="I did not accept this answer because it comes only from the point of view of someone who knows what a fight is and has years of martial arts (regardless of armchair-martial-arts or real-martial-arts) under his/her belt. Someone in that position DOES NOT NEED THIS ANSWER, BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALREADY FIGURED IT OUT THROUGH TRAINING. That is why this answer is worthless, in my opinion, to someone without that background. Please do not assume that someone reading this answer will have your background - you may become responsible for a death or two." CreationDate="2012-03-21T18:33:29.117" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1042" PostId="661" Score="1" Text="@Trevoke - That's probably where we'll have to agree to disagree. I also think you've gotten hung up on the &quot;what are you willing to kill/die for?&quot; to the point that you came under the impression that he feels every situation is a life or death one. Again, though, I think we'll have to agree to disagree, as that's not the message I got from it. When it comes down to it, though, it's your question to mark as you see fit." CreationDate="2012-03-21T19:54:06.047" UserId="341" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1043" PostId="661" Score="0" Text="At this point, this is becoming a cyclical discussion. This can be moved to [The Dojo](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/2353/the-dojo) for further discussion." CreationDate="2012-03-21T21:04:42.957" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1044" PostId="372" Score="0" Text="Curious: WCMA is... Williams College of Modern Art? Wood Components Manufacturers Association? Wisconsin Cheese Makers Association? May want to clarify that... World Class Martial Arts is still like 4 pages down on google for WCMA (I'm assuming that's what you're talking about)." CreationDate="2012-03-21T21:24:48.310" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1045" PostId="682" Score="2" Text="Yeah, there's a lot of variance in cost for martial arts training, and sometimes getting training can run quite high… but that cost may very well be going into better training equipment (mats, realistic targets), a better location, a more available instructor, or a variety of other things that you may or may not consider worth it.  &quot;Is it a reasonable cost for what I am getting&quot; is a fantastic question for any martial art you are engaged in, understanding others may make other choices." CreationDate="2012-03-21T22:09:32.927" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1046" PostId="691" Score="0" Text="Not a direct answer to the question, but it's worth noting that some forms (e.g., in iaido) start from the ground." CreationDate="2012-03-21T22:12:54.200" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1047" PostId="691" Score="0" Text="*Suwari waza*, correct? I'm not aware of any from on one's back..." CreationDate="2012-03-21T22:18:35.253" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1048" PostId="691" Score="0" Text="Yep, I don't know of any forms that start or even spend prolonged time on one's back, though I suppose one could create some (particularly two person forms).  Though I generally think of &quot;ground fighting&quot; fairly expansively to include anything you do from the ground." CreationDate="2012-03-21T22:25:46.307" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1049" PostId="661" Score="0" Text="Why is this cyclical? I am defending my point of view and, so far, I've heard a lot of new arguments and no repetitions. I'm actually really stoked about this. And yes, @Shauna - when I read &quot;You are going to die, and nothing you do to try to save yourself is wrong&quot; -- I got the impression that every situation was a life-or-death one." CreationDate="2012-03-22T00:40:39.290" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1050" PostId="695" Score="2" Text="Definitely don't stress that leg at all. You can even injure yourself further (and decrease performance) with a bad muscle." CreationDate="2012-03-22T03:14:55.977" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1051" PostId="692" Score="2" Text="I would note that while you may be able to pull off striking attacks against an opponent in BJJ, this is the point of pulling guard and the clinch. It reduces the space between you and your opponent, and they limit your ability to draw power by trapping your hips and shoulders. If you trained for short power, you may be able to get some effective strikes in, but basically extending your arms or legs out towards them is essentially asking them to take your limb and break something. Be very wary." CreationDate="2012-03-22T03:28:03.497" UserId="334" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1052" PostId="691" Score="0" Text="*Ne waza* is Judo's ground curriculum, which was adapted into and became Brazilian Jiu-Jutsu. Just for clarification. :)" CreationDate="2012-03-22T03:29:04.243" UserId="334" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1053" PostId="692" Score="0" Text="As I mentioned, that is a situation where it pays to learn a bit of jujitsu.  Unfortunately, with the limited space on stack exchange sites, I can't go into much detail with that.  Long story short: don't strike unless you've disabled your opponent's ability to do so in return." CreationDate="2012-03-22T12:00:44.867" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1054" PostId="697" Score="1" Text="It sounds like this is the same question as [this one](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/506/harnessing-emotion-during-sparring/). Anyone else think it's a duplicate?" CreationDate="2012-03-22T12:29:56.450" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1055" PostId="695" Score="1" Text="Don't stress it. Whenever I have an injury, any shock remotely close to it will aggravate the injury again.  For example, I was leg-swept right above my knee when I had a sore lower back.  The sweep was a bit harder than intended, but it aggravated my back (even though he hit me right above my knee)." CreationDate="2012-03-22T14:04:25.357" UserId="249" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1056" PostId="695" Score="1" Text="no other answers needed here. if you have an injury, let it heal. especially if it is a tear." CreationDate="2012-03-22T14:45:53.440" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1057" PostId="697" Score="0" Text="I think this is a different problem then that question." CreationDate="2012-03-22T14:48:07.167" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1058" PostId="661" Score="1" Text="I'm not sure if it's cyclical, either, but it is becoming enough of a &quot;discussion&quot; to be sent to the chat room. Even if we don't do it, a mod will." CreationDate="2012-03-22T15:32:16.980" UserId="341" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1059" PostId="691" Score="0" Text="@sidran32 True. I personally have no experience with the art from which *ne waza* was derived, if any..." CreationDate="2012-03-22T15:40:55.723" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1060" PostId="697" Score="1" Text="Sounds like a duplicate to me, too... Perhaps the OP can explain how this differs from [that](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/506/harnessing-emotion-during-sparring/509)? Maybe a merge is in order?" CreationDate="2012-03-22T15:43:43.133" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1062" PostId="705" Score="1" Text="Speed has little to do with strength, its about not wasting time. I have no strength, yet I'm very fast, fast to the point that I can win spars just because I can get a kick in and run away while opponents charge. You calked about not making unnecessary move. +1" CreationDate="2012-03-23T14:00:36.827" UserId="268" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1063" PostId="391" Score="0" Text="Have you ever tried these defenses against a skilled practitioner in the final phases of executing a rear naked choke during sparring?" CreationDate="2012-03-23T15:53:35.110" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1064" PostId="383" Score="1" Text="@BenCole Their ears are behind you, their elbows are flexed so their funny bone is nigh-impossible to stimulate, and your head is immobilized by the choke. Have you ever actually tried these techniques in a sparring scenario against a skilled opponent while they have hooks and a locked-in rear naked choke?" CreationDate="2012-03-23T15:56:52.843" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1065" PostId="705" Score="2" Text="&quot;Speed has little to do with strength&quot;, very true, but only after a certain point.  For many, an increase in strength will also increase their speed.  But you're right; after that it's about minimizing movement and contraction, to perform the least number of necessary muscle movements as possible." CreationDate="2012-03-23T16:28:33.007" UserId="33" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1066" PostId="383" Score="0" Text="@Dave, only a few times, and my opponent was never a high-ranked BJJ person.  There were always cracks in their defenses that I could wiggle and break through.  Not to mention my arms were always free to perform pressure point techniques.  Granted, I only had a few mere moments, but I made those moments absolute hell for my opponent. :)  I've gotten ears (nearly disfigured a good friend!), accidentally relaxed funny bones, knees and other leg points, I've gotten groin shots, elbow jabs at ribs, and a lot more too.  Nobody's perfect, except maybe the best.  And they don't spar. :P" CreationDate="2012-03-23T16:34:10.647" UserId="33" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1067" PostId="706" Score="0" Text="[Systema Wrestling](http://www.russianmartialart.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=72). You're confusing training methodology with combative sports. The contact is anything but light. Visit a few systema classes." CreationDate="2012-03-23T18:34:23.867" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1068" PostId="706" Score="2" Text="Unless I'm misunderstanding something, that was part of my point. As I understand it, and from my very limited experience, most Systema classes do not involve hard sparring or wrestling. (Contact within the context of drilling doesn't count.) If I'm wrong on that particular point--if Systema classes frequently involve hard sparring--then I would be wrong." CreationDate="2012-03-23T18:42:50.063" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1069" PostId="706" Score="0" Text="In my experience you are wrong. While you may start light, an eventual progression to harder training is inevitable." CreationDate="2012-03-23T18:44:26.147" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1070" PostId="706" Score="1" Text="Training or sparring?" CreationDate="2012-03-23T18:46:33.477" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1071" PostId="656" Score="0" Text="I think it's a local thing. I train Krav Maga and my school does month to month or yearly contracts in the price range you quoted as reasonable." CreationDate="2012-03-23T19:08:00.190" UserId="348" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1072" PostId="50" Score="0" Text="@khafra Awesome link, thanks. And good point." CreationDate="2012-03-23T19:13:59.090" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1073" PostId="706" Score="0" Text="Sparring and training. The strikes are extremely dynamic. Usual caveat applies of course: Good instructor equals good training. The art itself dictates the curriculum, it's up to the instructor to teach it. Other caveat: my training was in *Systema Ryabko*." CreationDate="2012-03-23T20:19:40.610" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1075" PostId="706" Score="1" Text="@stslavik I updated my answer to account for your report of hard sparring in advanced training." CreationDate="2012-03-23T20:30:11.757" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1076" PostId="705" Score="0" Text="I can agree with that comment. +1" CreationDate="2012-03-24T00:18:35.237" UserId="268" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1077" PostId="496" Score="2" Text="+1 for mentioning that Aikido helped you with a slip and fall. Having trained Judo years ago did the same for me ;-)" CreationDate="2012-03-24T12:34:14.017" UserId="129" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1078" PostId="624" Score="0" Text="Thanks, increasing round time is a great idea. Currently I am training boxing, btw." CreationDate="2012-03-24T13:12:17.043" UserId="129" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1080" PostId="691" Score="0" Text="It seems like the answer to this question must vary a lot based on the martial art in question--probably too much for there to be a good non-style-specific answer. The style of Escrima I'm familiar with emphasizes being able to use 'standing techniques' from any position, ground or otherwise, but this works because the techniques we are being taught lend themselves to that kind of versatility. I doubt that the standing techniques/forms from *every* martial art can be applied from the ground." CreationDate="2012-03-24T16:05:29.723" UserId="45" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1081" PostId="699" Score="0" Text="... A downvote? Why?" CreationDate="2012-03-24T21:43:25.923" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1083" PostId="721" Score="0" Text="+1. My Sensei has a saying: *&quot;Feeling is believing.&quot;* You can explain a lock or technique as much as you like, but once they feel it they understand. Teach them up front that if force is being used they are doing it wrong. Otherwise you have to be constantly patrolling the dojo looking for those who are wrestling instead of locking." CreationDate="2012-03-25T06:10:53.513" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1084" PostId="697" Score="0" Text="Similar framing, but slightly different approach: one is asking about using emotions, the other preventing frustration." CreationDate="2012-03-25T15:09:57.987" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1085" PostId="720" Score="0" Text="How old are your newer students? Male or female? I think those distinctions might help give you a better answer of how to address particular mentalities." CreationDate="2012-03-26T00:26:44.477" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1086" PostId="392" Score="2" Text="The little finger of the choking arm is hidden in the crook of the choker's other elbow, or in the hand-to-hand version of the choke, by the other hand. Which finger are we talking about?" CreationDate="2012-03-26T13:39:05.127" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1087" PostId="680" Score="0" Text="+1 for technical detail, but I can't envision the &quot;kick their leg out&quot; part. Could you clarify or show a visual example?" CreationDate="2012-03-26T13:40:44.127" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1088" PostId="555" Score="0" Text="Could you describe the curriculum in addition to just providing a link?" CreationDate="2012-03-26T13:42:58.303" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1090" PostId="542" Score="0" Text="This is really two questions: what are MMA curricula, and should people study MMA or focus on one art at a time." CreationDate="2012-03-26T14:16:45.033" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1091" PostId="591" Score="0" Text="Would the downvoter please explain what they did not like about the answer?" CreationDate="2012-03-26T14:29:49.433" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1092" PostId="416" Score="2" Text="Heavy deadlifts are another way to build grip strength, as well as improve your knockout resistance." CreationDate="2012-03-26T14:38:54.803" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1093" PostId="697" Score="0" Text="@DavidH.Clements They seem to be encouraging the same answers. I'm thinking of merging the two to maintain the answers but don't see them as significantly different questions. Frustration is an emotional response." CreationDate="2012-03-26T15:55:35.847" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1096" PostId="697" Score="1" Text="I read the linked one as using the adrenaline rush to one's advantage, while this one is asking for advice for keeping from getting frustrated. While they may seem the same, for those of us who get frustrated and turned off from an activity when we repeatedly get our ass handed to us, they are fundamentally different questions." CreationDate="2012-03-26T16:49:48.900" UserId="341" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1099" PostId="624" Score="0" Text="Boxing, so this definitely applies to you.  I do Taekwondo btw, so I'm not claiming any specific boxing expertise. But if your competition has 5 rounds of 2 min each and you train to be able to do 5 rounds of 4 min each, the 2 min rounds should be cake! But that means you should be trying to throw twice as many punches and equally trying to dodge twice as many hits in the 4 min rounds." CreationDate="2012-03-26T18:05:30.637" UserId="55" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1100" PostId="701" Score="0" Text="Did your instructor delve into the applications of the forms? A lot of the movements that would seem otherwise pointless, actually apply to self defense techniques if you use a little imagination." CreationDate="2012-03-26T18:27:02.233" UserId="55" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1101" PostId="697" Score="1" Text="Some of the answers are going to cover substantively similar material as they are related questions, but it doesn't change that the questions are still fundamentally different from the point of view of the asker and the nuances can be quite be different in terms of answers even if the core is similar." CreationDate="2012-03-26T18:40:24.727" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1105" PostId="555" Score="0" Text="No - as I said in the answer, I haven't seen the program in action. I only know the creator/instructor." CreationDate="2012-03-27T02:32:49.843" UserId="83" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1107" PostId="746" Score="1" Text="And me thinking this was about a hoplon, scutum or a kite shield..." CreationDate="2012-03-27T06:29:01.600" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1108" PostId="746" Score="3" Text="It depends on what type and brand. For the large Tae Kwon Do pads, you hold them touching you body with one hand on each hand hold, lower palm facing towards you, and upper palm facing away from you. The real importing part is to keep the pad close." CreationDate="2012-03-27T11:08:33.263" UserId="268" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1109" PostId="745" Score="0" Text="Its about timing and practice, keep practicing. Sometimes kick earlier, some times later. Whatever timing works use. By the way, the choreography in that movie isn't up to par with the rest of Hong Kongs movies. :)" CreationDate="2012-03-27T11:11:22.417" UserId="268" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1110" PostId="746" Score="0" Text="Good point - modifying the question to be art specific." CreationDate="2012-03-27T11:47:58.850" UserId="338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1111" PostId="383" Score="4" Text="The best defense is to not let him get to the point where he can sink it in. :)" CreationDate="2012-03-27T14:30:51.877" UserId="334" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1112" PostId="681" Score="0" Text="Re: &quot;Other reference: CMQ - Cult&quot;: Interesting. Nearly every art has something similar. I got peripherally dragged into the rants [here](http://warriorschool.blogspot.com/) by virtue of having taken some &quot;happy clappy photos&quot; of a student instructor of Jeff Prather's. Best to keep a wide berth from these people when you find them. I'm curious: was there something common among all the indoctrinated? Like a special patch, or uniform, or maybe a piece of jewelry?" CreationDate="2012-03-27T15:50:25.260" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1113" PostId="681" Score="0" Text="Well i tell you one thing I was there at the time before and after the arrests.  Some of the stuff they did teach was legit, Hapkido, Judo, Karate...but when they said John C.Kim had powers beyond comprehension and wanted you to pay $500 a month in cash for training to teach you these powers, that is where I drew the line.  I paid always with check and no more than $100/month." CreationDate="2012-03-27T17:02:37.577" UserId="263" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1114" PostId="746" Score="1" Text="can you add a link to the specific shield? different ones have different handles!" CreationDate="2012-03-27T19:07:51.400" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1115" PostId="566" Score="0" Text="Can still upvote many tho. :)" CreationDate="2012-03-27T19:08:32.910" UserId="167" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1116" PostId="720" Score="1" Text="The ones who have this particular problem basically run the gamut in ages. I've seen it with 50 year olds, I've seen it with 13 year olds (the youngest we take), and both with men and with women. It seems slightly more prevalent–or perhaps just more noticeable–among young men." CreationDate="2012-03-27T19:30:51.050" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1117" PostId="746" Score="1" Text="Great add - updated!" CreationDate="2012-03-27T20:55:57.680" UserId="338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1118" PostId="722" Score="2" Text="The answers here are already complete and there's no need to add an actual answer, but as a quick reference to anyone who comes across this: Iaido is the art of drawing the katana from its scabbard. It is extremely involved and worthy of its own style. Kendo is the art of fighting with a katana and generally does not delve deep into strikes -from- the scabbard." CreationDate="2012-03-27T21:41:55.950" UserId="357" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1119" PostId="746" Score="0" Text="Adding a picture would be a little better than just a link. If that link disappears or its content changes, then you'd still have to rely on the textual description." CreationDate="2012-03-28T01:31:49.010" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1120" PostId="721" Score="0" Text="Weren't we playing with this the other day? Addiction to self is hard to break." CreationDate="2012-03-28T04:18:30.563" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1121" PostId="721" Score="0" Text="@Ho-ShengHsiao - Yup!" CreationDate="2012-03-28T11:04:15.477" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1122" PostId="750" Score="0" Text="As far as I know, it is the way we all do it.  However, there is another way (bigger and tighter knot) that gets the belt to not undo itself during competition.  Sadly, I cannot remember how to do it." CreationDate="2012-03-28T11:50:10.353" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1123" PostId="751" Score="2" Text="Presentation is more important than I realized in my experience. It's a signifier of your treatment of your system or style and whatever culture or traditions come with it. Basically, it's a sign of respect to what you do, your history and ancestors." CreationDate="2012-03-28T13:17:55.217" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1124" PostId="754" Score="2" Text="just to add on, in my TKD school we don't use the straps and just hold the shield on diagonal corners.  That way your arm doesn't smash into your body every time!" CreationDate="2012-03-28T14:12:52.983" UserId="55" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1125" PostId="751" Score="1" Text="The belt should wrap twice, and the ends should come together evenly at about the bottom of your *gi* when they are relaxed (new belts may stick straight out). If they aren't roughly at that length, your belt is too long. Depending on the art and instructor, the belt may be wrapped from the middle around both sides to tie at front (leaving an X at the back – In my experience, common with *judoka*), or as shown, with a length at front and wrapping about twice. Either way, look for the fortune-cookie knot!" CreationDate="2012-03-28T17:57:50.633" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1126" PostId="153" Score="1" Text="There is a really good [Parenting.SE answer](http://parenting.stackexchange.com/questions/1425/what-age-is-it-appropriate-to-start-martial-arts) about this." CreationDate="2012-03-29T14:08:06.717" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1127" PostId="751" Score="1" Text="This is how I was taught to tie it... but I find it hard to get the knot to lay flat... you have to pay VERY close attention to how you have the two ends twisted when tying the knot (which face is up/down), otherwise the ends will stick out at all odd angles... I also do not find that it stays particularly well. It seems to come lose primarily during any groundwork... whether it be situps during warmups or working on grappling techniques." CreationDate="2012-03-29T15:44:13.267" UserId="167" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1128" PostId="756" Score="0" Text="Video. Good idea. +1" CreationDate="2012-03-30T07:15:28.270" UserId="268" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1129" PostId="699" Score="2" Text="You tell the person to go talk to an instructor which is fine in itself, but it's a very simple and short-sighted answer that doesn't provide any insight to the question (especially when you compare it to the other answers that are here now). I didn't downvote you, but that's *my* guess why it was." CreationDate="2012-03-30T19:20:06.477" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1131" PostId="759" Score="6" Text="A traceable lineage neither guarantees a quality training environment nor a legitimate experience. Plus, the longer the lineage, the more debate. Add to that, Asian cultures have a tendency to embellish their relationships and lineages (for example, it's common in Japanese arts for a *soke* to claim he was the only student of his teacher)." CreationDate="2012-03-30T19:23:07.993" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1133" PostId="759" Score="0" Text="In judo, lineage is barely given any notice. You know your teacher, and maybe their teacher, but it's not given the ancestor-worship that's present in, for instance, *koryu*." CreationDate="2012-03-30T19:53:18.707" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1134" PostId="699" Score="0" Text="Shauna's answer is possibly the best. The others are giving too much information for a low-ranked student. This information will not be processed and the student will end up more confused. People are just showing off their knowledge instead of tailoring the answer to the student's best interest." CreationDate="2012-03-30T20:30:24.067" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1135" PostId="759" Score="3" Text="Not to mention that just because someone can claim a lineage it doesn't mean that they have been taught everything in the art. Immediately verifiable teaching skills are arguably way more important than lineage." CreationDate="2012-03-30T22:33:45.347" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1137" PostId="759" Score="0" Text="@slugster Along with teaching skills, I would put &quot;competition record&quot; as way more important than lineage." CreationDate="2012-03-31T01:50:10.397" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1140" PostId="759" Score="2" Text="@Dave - I'd be careful with the &quot;competition record&quot; thing. I don't know if it's the intended meaning, but it gives the connotation that a school is only good if it's used in structured competitions, which can potentially leave out the schools that don't train to compete." CreationDate="2012-03-31T17:01:00.730" UserId="341" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1141" PostId="759" Score="0" Text="@Shauna And I would argue that such discrimination would be beneficial." CreationDate="2012-03-31T17:11:19.967" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1142" PostId="759" Score="2" Text="@Dave (At the risk of getting &quot;chatty&quot;...) And what about the schools that teach for things like self defense and not for competition (and, in fact, may teach things that are illegal in competitions)? (On a side note, I think that could make a good question, if it can be asked in an objective manner.)" CreationDate="2012-03-31T17:34:59.230" UserId="341" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1143" PostId="759" Score="0" Text="@Shauna After trying both approaches, I hold that for a number of reasons it is sub-optimal to train for self-defense without competing. If it is self-defense one wants, MMA or judo plus boxing would be good choices." CreationDate="2012-03-31T18:28:12.880" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1144" PostId="764" Score="0" Text="Thank you *so* much! Very clear and confidence-inducing answer... :)" CreationDate="2012-04-01T00:10:35.167" UserId="367" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1145" PostId="759" Score="2" Text="Comments are the space for clarifying questions and the like, not for protracted debate or discussion. Feel free to use the [chat](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/2353/the-dojo)." CreationDate="2012-04-01T00:14:57.717" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1146" PostId="765" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the answer slugster - so that means that once healed, I *can* stretch the area's tissue as usual, just not when it's still healing right?" CreationDate="2012-04-01T09:23:42.033" UserId="367" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1147" PostId="765" Score="0" Text="And thanks a lot for including your personal experience - that's very re-assuring!" CreationDate="2012-04-01T09:24:11.253" UserId="367" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1148" PostId="765" Score="2" Text="@aditya - that is correct - don't stretch that area too soon (it is reasonably invasive surgery, my scar is 8&quot; long), and take it gently when you do start. To be clear, scar tissue can be stretched, it just isn't elastic like normal tissue. I'm going to tweak my answer to make that clearer." CreationDate="2012-04-01T11:10:15.560" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1149" PostId="761" Score="5" Text="Be very careful; this is a site where the answers are mostly coming from martial artists. Even if one is a doctor we have no way of verifying. Any answers should contain the caveat: &quot;Speak to your physician about your specific case.&quot;" CreationDate="2012-04-01T17:04:16.100" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1150" PostId="761" Score="0" Text="I will definitely make it a point to ask my physician for specific advice regarding this. However, he is not an experienced martial artist so I won't get that perspective. *Thank you* to all who have answered and given me that!" CreationDate="2012-04-01T17:35:29.667" UserId="367" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1151" PostId="756" Score="0" Text="I'm definitely going to give the video a shot. I'll keep the question open for now in case others have good input.&#xA;I have been kicking foam targets as well - way too expensive to kick timber all day long!" CreationDate="2012-04-02T02:18:28.487" UserId="48" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1157" PostId="542" Score="0" Text="It depends. What's your goal? The problem is that there's a kind of conflict of interest. MMA is _Mixed_ Martial Arts. To some extent, I doubt that two MMA schools anywhere will have the same curriculum. Do you want to teach for competition? For self-defense? Ask yourself these questions, and hopefully you'll find the answer you're looking for." CreationDate="2012-02-21T13:50:57.663" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1158" PostId="542" Score="0" Text="Thanks for your input. Like I wrote, the (hypothetical) goal is to train students for amateur MMA competitions, not self-defense. I don't have any plans of putting this into practice, just wondering what kinds of approaches work." CreationDate="2012-02-21T19:31:10.370" UserId="129" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1159" PostId="542" Score="0" Text="In that case, since the world of MMA is new in Germany, teach them things.. Pick one thing, possibly ground fighting, that will give them an edge. You'll have to adapt your curriculum as the opponents learn your techniques, and over time, you will have fine-tuned a curriculum that matches what you want and helps your students win competitions." CreationDate="2012-02-22T03:28:01.150" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1160" PostId="191" Score="0" Text="Comments should not be used for debate or discussion. Please participate on the [meta](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/71/proposed-tags-eastern-martial-arts-and-western-martial-arts/) instead for defining these terms and tags." CreationDate="2012-04-03T17:56:23.247" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1162" PostId="391" Score="0" Text="Yes I have. Why do you ask?" CreationDate="2012-04-03T22:29:06.230" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1163" PostId="673" Score="0" Text="That link is interesting to me because I trained with Dave Iannucci before he moved away." CreationDate="2012-04-03T22:55:09.323" UserId="9" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1166" PostId="771" Score="1" Text="Never used one, but i've read that they are actually -better- than a training partner, when used in conjunction.  This is because you do not have to &quot;water down&quot; techniques by altering them so the uke can safely ukemi out of it. I'm very curious to see what people have to say." CreationDate="2012-04-04T03:59:25.930" UserId="61" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1167" PostId="685" Score="2" Text="Get a teacher and trust him/her with your training." CreationDate="2012-03-19T11:01:52.457" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1168" PostId="685" Score="1" Text="Simple and true; if you want to be in shape to chop firewood, chop firewood. Runners run; Baseball players play baseball; and *kendoka* practice *kendo*. Whatever you do, your body will adapt." CreationDate="2012-03-19T16:47:02.780" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1169" PostId="774" Score="4" Text="You should really go see a doctor. We are not necessarily medical professionals on this site, and I would hate to see any potential failure of responsibility on anyone here if your injury is serious. I'm closing this as off-topic according to the [faq] and this [meta post](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/7/are-questions-about-treating-injuries-off-topic). You are welcome to edit your question so that it fits in the context of the site's scope." CreationDate="2012-04-04T15:30:59.200" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1170" PostId="774" Score="0" Text="no problem, I just figured someone on this site might have been in the same situation since there will be common injuries that arise form people doing Martial Arts" CreationDate="2012-04-04T16:38:07.010" UserId="113" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1171" PostId="774" Score="1" Text="Thanks for understanding. Your question can always be reopened in the future. Why don't you help contribute to this [meta discussion about injuries](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/157/what-exactly-constitutes-general-versus-specific-injury-treatment)? It'd be great to get some community input on how to narrow this topic down for Martial Arts." CreationDate="2012-04-04T17:06:57.160" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1172" PostId="774" Score="0" Text="Since this isn't *exactly* on- or off-topic at the moment per the meta discussion, I'll leave it open for now." CreationDate="2012-04-04T19:39:35.567" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1173" PostId="192" Score="0" Text="Please absolutely [do not cross-post](http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/64068/is-cross-posting-a-question-on-multiple-stack-exchange-sites-permitted-if-the-qu) on multiple sites. Right now there is [a discussion on meta](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/157/what-exactly-constitutes-general-versus-specific-injury-treatment) about narrowing down the injury scope so I could encourage to participate in it. Whatever the outcome, the question can be migrated and merged in either direction. I'm a mod on both Fitness and Martial Arts so I can take care of it on either side." CreationDate="2012-04-05T14:00:53.083" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1175" PostId="681" Score="2" Text="Also related and worth asking: [How important is lineage when it comes to credibility or trustworthiness?](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/759/how-important-is-lineage-when-it-comes-to-credibility-or-trustworthiness)" CreationDate="2012-04-05T16:31:21.757" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1178" PostId="655" Score="0" Text="Do you have references on your list of &quot;consensus&quot; items? I've never seen anything about static stretching being safer than dynamic stretching." CreationDate="2012-04-05T20:24:28.583" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1179" PostId="669" Score="3" Text="The fact that TKD has been around for centuries (if it indeed has, which is historically suspect) says absolutely nothing about the usefulness or efficacy of the stretching methodology in your TKD class. It's also likely that the stretching in said class is unlike the stretching done in TKD historically." CreationDate="2012-04-05T20:26:49.157" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1180" PostId="648" Score="1" Text="I recommend a thorough reading of [Tom Kurz' material on this subject](http://stadion.com/column.html)." CreationDate="2012-04-05T20:28:24.600" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1182" PostId="787" Score="1" Text="Interesting. I don't know if this can be conclusively proven... You'd have to control all factors as constant, changing only the breathing to have a proper experiment." CreationDate="2012-04-05T22:11:54.840" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1183" PostId="787" Score="2" Text="Could you define the methods of breathing that you refer to? In particular, I've seen it argued that &quot;diaphragm breathing&quot; is a nonsensical term, due to the fact that all breathing in the absence of outside help is caused by the diaphragm." CreationDate="2012-04-05T23:29:06.280" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1184" PostId="787" Score="0" Text="@Dave No, I can't define the methods of breathing that I refer to. That would turn this question into a multiple-volume book and, by the end of all that research (most likely years), I would probably be a buddhist monk and/or dead and/or have my answer. I understand why you're asking me to define the breathing methods I spoke about, but they are only examples. It is meaningless to describe the examples in further detail, as that will only detract from the real question." CreationDate="2012-04-06T01:43:15.213" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1185" PostId="787" Score="1" Text="In that case I recommend deleting everything after &quot;can I generate the most power?&quot; The second question isn't really the same as the first and the terms are poorly defined." CreationDate="2012-04-06T04:06:01.010" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1186" PostId="655" Score="0" Text="@Dave The problem with dynamic stretching is that it's more difficult to find your &quot;limit&quot;, so overstretching is a bigger risk in dynamic stretching then in static stretching. For references, you can do a search on [Google Scholar](http://scholar.google.com). You'll find plenty of papers on stretching research there." CreationDate="2012-04-06T05:46:56.153" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1187" PostId="669" Score="2" Text="Can you be more specific about what stretching you do and how? That one example alone, from personal experience, isn't enough to conclusively say whether stretching is good or bad." CreationDate="2012-04-06T12:53:20.253" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1188" PostId="787" Score="0" Text="@Dave - I disagree. The first question, indeed, is not the same as the first, but &quot;which kind of breath&quot; is not enough, you also have to know at what point in the breath you can generate the power." CreationDate="2012-04-06T14:23:11.557" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1189" PostId="788" Score="0" Text="Related: http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/432/what-is-a-good-push-up-routine-to-build-punch-strength/444#444" CreationDate="2012-04-06T16:05:03.427" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1190" PostId="788" Score="0" Text="I like your answer over there.  It explains rather nicely what I tried to cover as background to the real answer.  I have found the more you _think_ about different aspects of technique the less likely you will be able to _do_ them.  Active thought is much slower than muscle memory.  Also, the concept of &quot;proprioception&quot; (understanding our own body's position) helps to make a connection of the feel of your body position with the actual techniques.  Making both power (speed aspect) and technique simply automatic." CreationDate="2012-04-06T16:52:02.670" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1191" PostId="655" Score="0" Text="Perhaps you mean [ballistic stretching](http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/stretching_types.htm)?" CreationDate="2012-04-07T03:10:32.083" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1192" PostId="655" Score="1" Text="For instance, as found on Google Scholar, [&quot;Dynamic ﬂexibility exercises should be identical to the movements the body will be doing during activity; therefore, dynamic ﬂexibility is not a dangerous ballistic type of stretching. Coaches need to be aware that unsupervised participation in the warm-up/stretching period may cause injury regardless of the type of stretching exercises being performed.](http://www.castonline.ilstu.edu/lagally/KNR%20451/uploads/RBarticle1.pdf)" CreationDate="2012-04-07T03:14:48.960" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1193" PostId="789" Score="0" Text="Can you please provide some description of the video? One-liners link-only answers don't make for very good answers. If the video disappears, then the answer becomes worthless." CreationDate="2012-04-07T04:42:37.157" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1195" PostId="789" Score="0" Text="It's pretty much impossible to describe it well in words. If the video disappears then you're stuck with a pretty much meaningless description." CreationDate="2012-04-07T22:33:31.773" UserId="10" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1196" PostId="787" Score="2" Text="&quot;No, I can't define the methods of breathing that I refer to&quot; - if the terms aren't defined, then this is not an answerable question." CreationDate="2012-04-08T01:15:16.263" UserId="121" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1197" PostId="789" Score="1" Text="Perhaps pictures and descriptive text is better then." CreationDate="2012-04-08T05:24:13.330" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1198" PostId="787" Score="0" Text="@BobCross there are too many breaths. I named two as examples, not as a restriction on the answer. I don't know why a definition of two examples among many would help, but since everyone insists, I'll edit the question." CreationDate="2012-04-08T13:57:28.617" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1199" PostId="20" Score="3" Text="Only other thing is ask your current sensei if they know anyone.  If they don't then you are no worse off.  However, if they do, it's a good chance the new dojo will be run like the one you are leaving." CreationDate="2012-04-09T14:21:22.433" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1200" PostId="787" Score="1" Text="I think the full answer (as stated below) really is affected by the martial art you study.  I provided general principles for a still pretty general question that will point you in the right direction." CreationDate="2012-04-09T16:20:50.083" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1201" PostId="655" Score="0" Text="I don't think the research articles I've read included ballistic stretching (which sounds very dangerous from the description)&#xA;I did a quick search to see if I can find the articles that mentioned the potential dangers of dynamic stretching (there were two articles if I remember correctly), but unfortunately I wasn't able to find them." CreationDate="2012-04-10T11:39:04.623" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1202" PostId="787" Score="1" Text="@BerinLoritsch, so it's an unanswerable general question according to the FAQ: http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/faq#dontask  There are too many variables, undefined terms and a missing metric (what is &quot;best&quot;?)." CreationDate="2012-04-10T12:11:13.997" UserId="121" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1203" PostId="788" Score="1" Text="This is incorrect: &quot;Power is force over time.&quot;  You're thinking of work: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_(physics)#Mechanical_power  The correct definition is &quot;Power = Force times velocity = Work over time.&quot;  Power is also a poor choice as a physical principle due to it's lack of conservation.  Try kinetic energy instead = 1/2 * mass * velocity^2." CreationDate="2012-04-10T12:15:09.493" UserId="121" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1204" PostId="788" Score="0" Text="&quot;Power is how much force is transferred to the target&quot;: again, you're thinking of energy." CreationDate="2012-04-10T12:17:55.387" UserId="121" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1205" PostId="787" Score="0" Text="@Bob Cross, &quot;best&quot; can only be answered in a certain context.  Missing the martial art &quot;best&quot; is to be applied to, all we can do is come up with general applications and caveats.  Different martial arts have different focuses, which means the need for the breath also differs.  This is a classic case were no absolutes can apply." CreationDate="2012-04-10T12:27:22.200" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1206" PostId="788" Score="0" Text="@BobCross, It's clear I'm not a physics student.  I have slightly better understanding than a lay person, so the terms I use may be muddled from a pure physics standpoint.  But from a lay person's viewpoint of what &quot;power&quot; means to a martial artist, I think I captured the intent well." CreationDate="2012-04-10T12:30:01.183" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1207" PostId="787" Score="0" Text="@BerinLoritsch, then it's an unanswerable question without that context.  General aimless discussion is specifically disallowed in the FAQ." CreationDate="2012-04-10T13:47:34.047" UserId="121" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1208" PostId="787" Score="0" Text="@BobCross, yes.  You are right, without that context of &quot;Best for what?&quot; it is not answerable as written." CreationDate="2012-04-10T14:33:03.600" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1209" PostId="675" Score="0" Text="To add, the dojo I attend works on a &quot;per belt&quot; basis, which is three months per belt (or four months, for white belt). It allows for many of the advantages of both the monthly and the contract (though there is no contract), because of the slightly longer commitment (lowering attrition). Additionally, I've seen dojos charge on a monthly basis, but only allow 2 classes per week (and charge for each additional), effectively nullifying the per-class savings. So always ask about their structure and class allowances." CreationDate="2012-04-10T17:22:01.837" UserId="341" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1211" PostId="655" Score="0" Text="The point I and the articles I linked to make is that dynamic stretches are only dangerous if performed incorrectly, i.e. ballistically." CreationDate="2012-04-10T22:50:00.737" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1212" PostId="794" Score="2" Text="I highly recommend &quot;Stretching Scientifically&quot; by Tom Kurz. It addresses this question directly and with great candor." CreationDate="2012-04-10T22:54:44.820" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1213" PostId="787" Score="0" Text="@BerinLoritsch I wrote &quot;to generate the most power&quot;. Is that not enough context? Could you please guide me by telling me how I may further refine it, maybe by providing an example?" CreationDate="2012-04-11T01:04:59.547" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1214" PostId="787" Score="1" Text="@Trevoke, the type of breathing you need to do when grappling is very different than the type of breathing you need to do when you focus on quick strikes.  The biggest issue is that the martial art being practiced dictates what type of breathing is most effective.  While several arts are similar, there are enough subtle differences I can't make a blanket statement.  See the bullets in my answer for more examples." CreationDate="2012-04-11T01:29:50.060" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1217" PostId="655" Score="0" Text="@Dave Looking at your definition I agree that normally dynamic stretches are not dangerous at all. But if you have sore/stiff muscles, didn't warm-up properly, or your activity involves movements that you don't do in daily life then dynamic stretching could cause you to overstretch (sadly, that last one I know from personal experience)." CreationDate="2012-04-11T07:22:08.810" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1218" PostId="788" Score="0" Text="@BobCross Again, this all becomes incalculable. It's near impossible to determine even the appropriate amount of mass being placed into a strike. Average mass calculations were done by NASA in space to isolate the effect of the other portions on the whole. Prior attempts at using directed body parts proved... inaccurate." CreationDate="2012-04-11T15:51:29.207" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1220" PostId="788" Score="0" Text="@stslavik, that's not true.  Every aspect of human-related physics is quite easily measurable.  Impact energy, pressure and impulse are all directly measurable.  Velocity can be observed with a high speed camera (see any episode of Mythbusters for an example).  The mass of the system components shows up in all of the related formulae; just solve for 'm'." CreationDate="2012-04-11T18:12:27.457" UserId="121" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1221" PostId="788" Score="0" Text="Indeed. But we're talking about the hypothetical removed from context. We have methods of making the measurements through experimentation. In terms of the theoretical, we're left with too many variables to solve for anything." CreationDate="2012-04-11T18:32:01.703" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1222" PostId="466" Score="1" Text="I wish I could remember where else this question has been asked. In any case, it is and will always remain a duplicate. Read this:&#xA;http://trevoke.net/blog/2008/03/20/which-martial-arts-school-is-right-for-you/ And I hope it helps." CreationDate="2012-02-13T17:11:22.660" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1223" PostId="795" Score="0" Text="Is there something preventing one from stretching the same limbs and muscles without a partner, for instance by pulling on a strap in your first example, or with a dancer's bar in the second, or by pushing with your elbows in your third? What does the partner add except increased possibility for injury?" CreationDate="2012-04-12T20:33:17.377" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1224" PostId="799" Score="0" Text="By the way, this is certainly not to say that Dillman's claims are genuine; there is a considerable controversy surrounding Dillman. I'm personally wary of anyone who claims to be a 10th dan in a traditional style without having a supported lineage.  (Contrast with, for example, Meitatsu Yagi, who has one degree of separation from Chojun Miyagi.)" CreationDate="2012-04-13T10:28:10.180" UserId="390" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1225" PostId="795" Score="0" Text="i've added some more information about how having a partner can be better." CreationDate="2012-04-13T14:51:44.860" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1226" PostId="799" Score="1" Text="Hi! Welcome to the site! Perhaps you could give a little more information about what behind the links is useful to the asker. Just a quick synopsis goes a long way. It may help to read about [how to answer questions here](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/171/answering-questions-on-martialarts-stackexchange-com)" CreationDate="2012-04-13T16:12:30.727" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1227" PostId="711" Score="0" Text="@RobertPetermeier I did my best to edit the question to eliminate the polling while still retaining your details and relative reasoning for asking. The parenthetical only served to reiterate the basic answering guidelines of the site, so it was deleted." CreationDate="2012-04-13T18:52:47.083" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1229" PostId="711" Score="0" Text="I've reopened it given the modifications." CreationDate="2012-04-13T20:01:38.420" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1230" PostId="796" Score="0" Text="Unfortunately this doesn't really address the core of the question, since my question specifically is with regards to experienced practitioners who move very slowly and communicate very quickly." CreationDate="2012-04-15T18:49:49.557" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1231" PostId="796" Score="0" Text="@DavidH.Clements Kurz' point, with which I agree, is that it a scenario such as you posit is *not possible*, and that even if you discount that fact, the cost/benefit/time ratio of partner stretching is not positive anyway." CreationDate="2012-04-16T00:10:35.073" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1234" PostId="591" Score="0" Text="I gave this -1 because I used to practice and teach this technique before starting judo and BJJ, and am convinced that it is neither appropriate to the question of combat base (the opponent would simply pass guard) nor effective in its own right (I've never seen it work outside of drilling). The high guard is better, but it's more of a preventative measure than a counter." CreationDate="2012-04-17T16:22:43.870" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1235" PostId="591" Score="0" Text="Unrelated clarification: in the last paragraph, isn't the opponent falling *away* from you due to the knee push? Or does that sentence refer to the knee-hook/kick-heel variation?" CreationDate="2012-04-17T16:24:39.063" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1236" PostId="800" Score="0" Text="+1, very nuanced. I couldn't find the Tomari/Isshinryu link on McCarthy's site--do you mean because of the Motobu connection, or in its own right?" CreationDate="2012-04-17T16:47:19.460" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1237" PostId="800" Score="0" Text="It seems that Wansu is considered by some to be a Tomari relic by way of Kyan, is this what you mean?" CreationDate="2012-04-17T16:51:19.567" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1238" PostId="800" Score="0" Text="*Wanshu* is derived from Fujian White Crane, a part of *Naha-te*. The connection is, from what I understand, that *Motobu* and *Kyan* both had training in *Shuri-te*, *Naha-te*, and *Tomari-te*. The lineage for *Tomari-te* was as provided above." CreationDate="2012-04-17T16:55:20.453" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1239" PostId="775" Score="0" Text="+1 for *&quot;It will take substantially less time to heal if you just let it heal.&quot;*. To finish your rhyme: but it is not what the op wants to hear :-)" CreationDate="2012-04-17T17:29:48.997" UserId="93" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1240" PostId="591" Score="0" Text="When I was writing it, I was envisioning the hook/kick happening laterally.  In essence, the knee kicked to the outside instead of straight on.  But yes, hooking the knee and kicking the ankle can work.  The problem is the weight is on that foot, so it is harder to pull off.  By kicking the knee out to the side, his base of support is pulled out from under him, causing the forward fall--potentially torward the side you kicked the knee to." CreationDate="2012-04-17T17:55:33.503" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1242" PostId="806" Score="2" Text="The *bo-hi* (groove, fuller) is not meant to channel blood in an actual *katana*. It acts as an I-beam, lessening weight while giving greater rigidity. It's purely cosmetic in *bokken*." CreationDate="2012-04-17T19:19:18.110" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1243" PostId="806" Score="0" Text="I removed that text.  Thanks for the clarification." CreationDate="2012-04-17T19:24:30.850" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1244" PostId="808" Score="1" Text="Are you training under a coach currently? Video could also help greatly." CreationDate="2012-04-17T20:46:56.513" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1245" PostId="809" Score="0" Text="man I would love to take classes if I had the money. But straight kicks are no problem, such as a stamp or side kick. It's only on kicks where I swing my body for momentum, such as a round house or a reverse hook kick." CreationDate="2012-04-17T22:15:27.590" UserId="397" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1246" PostId="808" Score="0" Text="No, I just read books and watch videos and train alone at home. I'll ask around to borrow a camera and upload a video to youtube." CreationDate="2012-04-17T22:16:44.920" UserId="397" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1247" PostId="810" Score="0" Text="Well if you put it that way, the machine my coach used to test all his athletes read me as 4.1%, I didn't go see a specialist or anything. Sorry I didn't mean to imply I'm some kind of super-athlete, but whether it's correct or way off that's what I was told. I've always been underweight and I max out 235lbs on bench so I like to believe my body strength is some-what decent compared to my size. Yes, I realize I can only learn so much on my own, but I just don't have the money to pay for a membership. This is just a hobby to keep my busy during college." CreationDate="2012-04-18T05:04:31.420" UserId="397" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1249" PostId="806" Score="1" Text="@stslavik: Your point on grooves applies to all swords and not just the *katana*.  One more urban myth bites the dust!" CreationDate="2012-04-18T06:26:54.903" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1250" PostId="810" Score="0" Text="That's impressive. What kind of machine?" CreationDate="2012-04-18T12:48:01.497" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1251" PostId="806" Score="0" Text="Which is why I gave the term &quot;fuller&quot; as a transliteration. The subject was Japanese swords and facsimile. Interesting question: Where did the phrase &quot;blood groove&quot; originate? @BerinLoritsch &quot;Modern kendo includes waza that will only work with a *shinai*.&quot; How so?" CreationDate="2012-04-18T16:02:37.503" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1252" PostId="811" Score="0" Text="Okay, do you think I should be practicing outside on cement like I usually do, or would it be better to practice barefoot on carpet where it's much easier to keep my balance?" CreationDate="2012-04-18T16:04:10.200" UserId="397" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1254" PostId="810" Score="0" Text="It was just a gadget that looked lot like this one.&#xA;https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRLXGa-l18zTSPz3EtFzeuwumA-Q81Hg_9YjPigEdIVgvnDGvvL3w&#xA;&#xA;Again, I don't have a certification proving it and I know I'm no Tanner." CreationDate="2012-04-18T16:08:58.993" UserId="397" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1255" PostId="812" Score="0" Text="Ah I've been looking for materials to construct a kicking bag. Thanks a lot I will definitely keep this in mind." CreationDate="2012-04-18T16:11:58.007" UserId="397" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1257" PostId="806" Score="0" Text="This is from a forum I used to follow on sword arts.  Essentially because the shinai does not have the _ha_ and _mune_ distinction, the kendo practitioner can parry and strike without worrying about blade orientation.  This makes for a quick point in sparring, but does not translate to an edged weapon." CreationDate="2012-04-18T17:20:05.533" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1262" PostId="810" Score="0" Text="@Thumbtack I'm sorry if I came across as hypercritical about the BF%. Now I'm interested in that machine. :) Good luck with your practice." CreationDate="2012-04-18T18:01:19.593" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1272" PostId="711" Score="3" Text="**Side note on legal aspects...** The kubotan is considered an offensive weapon in the UK ([ref. BBC article](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/8606969.stm) and [UK government web site](http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/CrimeJusticeAndTheLaw/Typesofcrime/DG_181675)) and as such is **not** a tool to be used for self defence, at least in the UK. I am unaware of any law in other countries but I would check with your local friendly law enforcement agencies before considering either owning a kubotan or learning how to use one. On the other hand, if you are willing to disregard the la" CreationDate="2012-04-16T07:49:14.933" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1273" PostId="711" Score="0" Text="you can always carry a whiteboard marker instead :)  I'm sure they are legal in the UK" CreationDate="2012-04-17T04:03:35.883" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1274" PostId="711" Score="2" Text="@KeithNicholas: You say that...  Anything you carry in the UK with the specific aim to inflict harm on another is classed as an offensive weapon.  So, a whiteboard marker, hair spray, a screw driver, etc, can all be considered offensive weapons **under the right circumstances**. You are justified in using &quot;*reasonable force*&quot; but that is not a precisely defined term.  It can and does vary from individual to individual.  This means that the judge at your trial will decide if you used reasonable force or not." CreationDate="2012-04-17T06:30:12.673" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1279" PostId="171" Score="0" Text="@Ginamin The counterfactual to your sprawl is to get taken down. Then you get your head stomped in, **plus** you're on the bottom of the original attacker." CreationDate="2012-04-18T18:39:06.877" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1280" PostId="171" Score="0" Text="@DaveNewton Studying non-SD arts can produce formidable self-defense skills for the vast majority of confrontations. People who compete seriously in the arts listed rarely have trouble modifying their sport techniques to the rare hand-to-hand combat situations they find themselves in, primarily because they have gobs more experience sparring at a high intensity." CreationDate="2012-04-18T18:40:50.650" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1285" PostId="806" Score="0" Text="Interesting. *Shinai* do have the *jinbu* (the front, opposite the *tsuru* which represents edge) and *tsuru* (cord along the back). I'm curious what *waza* only work with *shinai*..." CreationDate="2012-04-18T22:19:24.073" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1286" PostId="171" Score="0" Text="@Dave Obviously. But if you want to learn SD, *learn SD*. Don't start martial arts thinking you're learning SD: the time it takes to learn SD through MA is an order of magnitude longer than learning SD." CreationDate="2012-04-18T22:55:57.370" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1287" PostId="811" Score="1" Text="@Thumbtack - practice on cement. You have better grip on cement than carpet. Landing wrong on concrete might hurt more, but use the pain as an aversion mechanism and avoid it." CreationDate="2012-04-18T23:47:51.813" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1288" PostId="171" Score="1" Text="@DaveNewton I guess I should've worded my perspective more strongly. I think the opposite: six months of judo plus six months of boxing will make someone a better hand-to-hand fighter than a year of Krav Maga or similar self-defense, non-sparring-focused art." CreationDate="2012-04-19T00:24:47.557" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1289" PostId="171" Score="0" Text="@Dave You're certainly welcome to your opinion; decades of evidence proves something very different. Nothing more entertaining than watching a neophyte get stabbed in their face when they try to punch a knife. (And I'll ignore the obvious weirdness of assuming I'm only talking about Krav Maga, but it's quite a bit more focused on SD than Judo or boxing.) Good luck!" CreationDate="2012-04-19T00:37:14.063" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1291" PostId="171" Score="0" Text="@DaveNewton I disagree, but would be interested in seeing the decades of evidence." CreationDate="2012-04-19T01:17:14.997" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1292" PostId="811" Score="0" Text="@Thumbtack If you're worried about falling, you're still moving too fast." CreationDate="2012-04-19T02:08:49.080" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1293" PostId="171" Score="0" Text="@Dave Not necessarily. Many people without much kickboxing experience shoot in with their hands down, including many wrestlers I've seen. A simple knee to the face works better than a sprawl. Trust me, I've been subjected to it." CreationDate="2012-04-19T05:58:58.463" UserId="66" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1294" PostId="806" Score="0" Text="@stslavik: ask the question about the &quot;blood groove&quot;... It is indeed an interesting one." CreationDate="2012-04-19T08:30:05.957" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1295" PostId="806" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion That would be a better question for http://english.stackexchange.com I think." CreationDate="2012-04-19T15:58:19.980" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1297" PostId="816" Score="0" Text="You are polling for various answers given the way your question is written which does not fit the model of Stack Exchange and would be closed as &quot;not constructive.&quot; Please see the [faq] and this [meta discussion](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/169/closed-questions-on-martialarts-stackexchange-com) for more information about this site. I suggest removing this and rewriting your question and making it a bit more specific and focused. Figure out what it is you want to know and then ask that." CreationDate="2012-04-20T02:08:00.057" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1298" PostId="816" Score="0" Text="I disagree, but I'm not the rule maker here. this is about getting some insights into a specific feature of stances across a range of martial arts in order to inform myself as an instructor in ITF TKD on why one might have a 50/50 distribution across heel and toes, or a 2/3 1/3, etc. Writing it as a &quot;what is the best weight distribution across a foot and why&quot; is more fodder for a Martial Arts pissing contest (which is also against the rules), but ok..." CreationDate="2012-04-20T03:21:28.730" UserId="398" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1299" PostId="816" Score="0" Text="At the moment the question is very broad: *all* stances?" CreationDate="2012-04-20T04:01:10.213" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1300" PostId="816" Score="0" Text="I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I never said to rewrite it to ask for what is &quot;best&quot; but to remove the &quot;what do you do in your martial art&quot; portion. Your comment highlights what your question is - the differences and effects of weight distribution on your foot (and I would narrow this context down even more) - but all I merely was trying to get at was that the [original main question you posed](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/revisions/816/1) was in a format that doesn't fit the Stack Exchange Q&amp;A model." CreationDate="2012-04-20T04:02:59.287" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1301" PostId="816" Score="1" Text="Firstly, sorry for the glibness of my last message, on a re-read, it can sound worst then I intended. I can see you understand my question, so I will again endeavour to refine it. @Dave: I agree, I rewrote at the request of Matt, so I will try again..." CreationDate="2012-04-20T05:42:44.263" UserId="398" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1302" PostId="816" Score="0" Text="@Campbeln No worries. I think you asked a great question, and I'm glad to see the update. And welcome to the site!" CreationDate="2012-04-20T14:13:05.150" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1304" PostId="818" Score="0" Text="I'm not sure if this answers the question (I'm not entirely sure what the question is, to be honest), but conscious alteration of foot movement is not only possible, but recommended. We *learn* bad habits (by wearing hard soled shoes, for instance). Most of the good habits we ever had were as children when we moved naturally. Ever seen toddlers fall?" CreationDate="2012-04-20T18:09:03.700" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1307" PostId="823" Score="0" Text="&quot;O Sensei [meaning Morihei Ueshiba -Dave] who firmly believed that there was no place for competition in Aikido training.&quot; In this sentence alone lies the answer I sought. Many thanks" CreationDate="2012-04-20T20:13:08.180" UserId="403" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1309" PostId="823" Score="1" Text="@fpessoa It should be noted, then, that O Sensei already had military experience and training in arts with competitive (or at least uncooperative) elements. He was also arguably mentally unstable. So perhaps O Sensei's opinions should be taken with a grain of salt." CreationDate="2012-04-20T21:15:13.483" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1310" PostId="825" Score="1" Text="Welcome to the site! It would help for answering this question if you could give a little more explanation as to what you feel is going wrong.  When you say you &quot;never managed to past this barrier,&quot; what happens?" CreationDate="2012-04-20T21:26:38.087" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1312" PostId="825" Score="0" Text="Thanks ! After a short time, I loose my balance and my feet get back to the ground. I've recently been told not to worry too much about keeping totally straight while I walk and that helped a bit. But still not much. :(" CreationDate="2012-04-20T22:07:27.257" UserId="403" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1313" PostId="826" Score="0" Text="The shoulder press may be a good one. I never understood the &quot;push the ground&quot; bit though... What does it mean ? :)" CreationDate="2012-04-20T22:08:30.033" UserId="403" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1314" PostId="826" Score="4" Text="when you push something you usually use all your body on the effort. to &quot;push the ground&quot; is used in gymnastics cause they need a perfect balanced handstand, and for that reason a tip is to push the ground, cause the athlete will contract all his muscles not only the ones in the arms. It is a common mistake to just make a huge effort on one´s arms and forget that the rest of the body is part of the movement and need a balance of tension as well." CreationDate="2012-04-21T02:19:28.297" UserId="404" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1315" PostId="827" Score="0" Text="Great! I had heard of combat sambo, but I had no idea what it meant. With more information, I think I'm now in a better place to start looking for an instructor. Thanks a lot !" CreationDate="2012-04-21T15:55:14.297" UserId="403" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1316" PostId="828" Score="0" Text="&quot;you can try doing a handstand but with your feet and legs separated&quot; I've seen people do it, but never tried. Will do. You did hit the spot with the core strength too. I'm working on it ! :) Thanks a bunch" CreationDate="2012-04-21T16:00:35.397" UserId="403" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1317" PostId="826" Score="0" Text="Got it now. Looks like the same thing @MattChan points out. Thnx" CreationDate="2012-04-21T16:03:54.440" UserId="403" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1318" PostId="827" Score="2" Text="@fpessoa If you found the answer useful to you and you, you can mark it as an accepted answer ^_^ You can always change it later, and this encourages people to answer your questions in the future." CreationDate="2012-04-22T15:19:09.290" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1319" PostId="819" Score="0" Text="Your comment on superstition and acupuncture points detracts from your main argument, mainly because Chinese medicine has been healing people for thousands of years, so there's probably something to it. Regardless - after a decade of Isshinryu, I admit that there is something to what you said :)" CreationDate="2012-04-22T15:37:34.430" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1320" PostId="818" Score="0" Text="@stslavik Sure, I've seen toddlers fail. They are usually learning with a child's mind though, unlike many adults. And bad habit does matter (falling too much on the inside of my foot over a number of years predisposed me to bad knees). However, I think the original poster is coming from the wrong frame, and this answer was intended to answer from a better frame." CreationDate="2012-04-22T16:04:38.570" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1321" PostId="816" Score="0" Text="I like to try and build logical sets of rules to classify things, rather than remember lists of seemingly unrelated items. A good example of this is the left/right characterization of TKD stances - The rules to determine if a stance is left or right are: 1) If one leg is carrying more weight, it determines the side. 2) Else the weight distribution is equal, so if one leg is forward, it determines the side. 3) Else weight is even and neither foot is forward, therefore there is no left/right &quot;side&quot; to the stance. L-Stance fits rule #1, Walking Stance fit rule #2, and Sitting Stance fits rule #3." CreationDate="2012-04-22T23:57:54.180" UserId="398" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1322" PostId="816" Score="0" Text="So... now I just have to remember 3 rules, rather than lists of stances. As to this question... I'd like to get some insights from others TKD'ers, Ninjitzu'ers and other Martial Artists as to the reasons they shift their weight forward to the balls of their feet, or backward onto their heals, in the hopes that I can obtain a deeper understanding of this minuscule aspect of stances so as to (hopefully) develop a similar set of rules for myself and my students." CreationDate="2012-04-23T00:01:14.207" UserId="398" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1323" PostId="818" Score="0" Text="Excellent answer! This is very much along the lines that I am looking for! I think you have a lot of merit in saying that natural foot weight dist. is &quot;best&quot; but as in Ninjitzu there are distinct advantages to moving more weight forward. Plus as a barefoot runner myself, I've read a lot of articles and a few studies that make the suggestion that modern footwear may have disrupted our &quot;natural&quot; instincts more than a bit. As to rotating on the heel rather than ball of your foot, that too is interesting! In TKD, I believe all of the rotations are on the ball of the foot (per the Encyclopaedia)." CreationDate="2012-04-23T00:34:17.520" UserId="398" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1324" PostId="818" Score="0" Text="@Campbeln cool, glad it helped. Let me know if you find anything interesting. I don't think my answer is complete." CreationDate="2012-04-23T05:04:25.147" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1325" PostId="823" Score="0" Text="@Dave: Superb comment!" CreationDate="2012-04-23T06:44:10.570" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1326" PostId="822" Score="0" Text="*Tomiki* was a student of *Kano* (founder of Judo) and an academic.  These two influences lead to him wanting to &quot;rationalization&quot; *Aikido* using *kano*'s methods." CreationDate="2012-04-23T06:47:13.890" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1327" PostId="816" Score="0" Text="You do know &quot;ninjitzu&quot; is meaningless, right?" CreationDate="2012-04-23T16:15:29.433" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1328" PostId="816" Score="0" Text="@stslavik: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninjutsu . With the political &quot;issues&quot; that have occurred in TKD (WTF, ITF, ITF#2, ITF#3, plus the new faction in the ITF...) I have endeavored to stay apolitical. I've only been in the &quot;Ninjitzu&quot; class since the beginning of the year, so I have actively **not** asked about the name or the politics. The instructor is good, focuses on practical applications, and has us involved in some really good seminars. So, frankly, I don't much care if we are practicing the art of the Flying Spaghetti Monster =)" CreationDate="2012-04-23T22:48:31.833" UserId="398" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1329" PostId="816" Score="0" Text="Politics has nothing to do with it; the *word* is meaningless. (&quot;jitzu&quot; would transliterate to &quot;*ji'ju*&quot;)" CreationDate="2012-04-24T02:54:48.390" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1330" PostId="853" Score="0" Text="Excellent Excellent Excellent! This is a wonderful insight into how balance, weight distribution and motion are all thought of and utilized in Bujinkan Ninpo Taijutsu. I was able to follow along thru this write-up (thankfully, everything was defined), and it doesn't differ too much from the TKD Encyclopaedia wording-wise (Ichimonji no Kamae sounds very much like Fixed or L-Stance). Do take a look at the Yoga video I posted in the Q above, you may find it as interesting as I did. Is there anyway I can talk you out of a copy of this student handbook? It seems excellent!" CreationDate="2012-04-24T06:39:00.233" UserId="398" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1331" PostId="854" Score="0" Text="thanks for the YouTube link (though I need a US proxy to view it, so it will have to wait for home). As to your question; I'm working form the assumption you are in the proper/perfect/whatever stance for the situation and/or for the next technique (a tall ask, I know), I just want to focus on the ins and outs of weight distribution across the foot. Certainly in some stances it's less of a factor (if at all), one-legged stances for example (but even then you wouldn't want your weight focused in your heel). Teasing stances apart to this level may not make sense, but I want to see if it does =)" CreationDate="2012-04-24T06:44:09.323" UserId="398" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1332" PostId="816" Score="0" Text="@stslavik: it may well translate to your own Bujinkan. I have actually never asked nor heard how the instructor describes the art. The fellow student who got me involved referred to it as Ninjitzu so I have as well (and have until now not been corrected =). This weekend I have a seminar described as: &quot;Planning to teach Togakure Ninja Biken, Kihon Waza (tenchi ryaku no maki), Taijutsu based on Soke and&#xA;Nagato Sensei`s classes and Bo.&quot; That description makes me think of: &quot;I know karate, and a few other Japanese words!&quot; =) Hopefully after the seminar I will have a better understanding." CreationDate="2012-04-24T06:50:01.733" UserId="398" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1336" PostId="816" Score="0" Text="You're in the *Bujinkan*. *Nagato-sensei* is Bujinkan. *Soke* is *Bujinkan*. *Tenchijin Ryaku no Maki* is the &quot;shodan scrolls&quot; of the *Bujinkan*. Welcome to the *Bujinkan*. :)" CreationDate="2012-04-24T16:05:09.813" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1340" PostId="854" Score="0" Text="The thing is - where you are is never as important as where you want to be. That means that where your weight is just is not as important as where your weight will be." CreationDate="2012-04-25T13:52:55.960" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1341" PostId="859" Score="0" Text="Gun crime statistics should be available from either your local or global government statistics office: [Crime statistics in the UK](http://www.crimestatistics.org.uk/output/page1.asp) for example." CreationDate="2012-04-26T11:34:03.013" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1342" PostId="859" Score="0" Text="I didn't feel like looking up all the available data for every region in the world, compiling it all and then coming up with a &quot;you are likely&quot; or &quot;you are not likely&quot; answer. It's left as an exercise to the reader. :)" CreationDate="2012-04-26T13:59:18.347" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1343" PostId="864" Score="0" Text="+1 on all points... Footwork is most important; wrist *flexibility* is second. The third part is the only thing that requires a training partner." CreationDate="2012-04-26T15:45:23.783" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1344" PostId="860" Score="3" Text="Something most people don't realize is that a &quot;Wrist Lock&quot; is a means of locking *the whole body* by means of the wrist. It's important not just to have a hand and wrists, but for the connections between the hand and the torso to be representatively accurate of the range of motion in the human body. If you're only locking the wrist and forearm, you're doing it wrong." CreationDate="2012-04-26T15:50:12.717" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1345" PostId="860" Score="1" Text="@stslavik Very true for standing locks, though wristlocks in ground grappling are generally the reverse: arrest the whole body, then lock the wrist." CreationDate="2012-04-26T15:55:02.487" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1346" PostId="862" Score="1" Text="Unfortunately, in the past it was easier to get a training partner.  Currently, everyone in my life's schedule is different from mine.  So when I can train, they are not free, and vice-versa.  I'll definitely have to find an MMA oriented gym." CreationDate="2012-04-26T16:06:53.583" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1347" PostId="859" Score="0" Text="And for countries such as the UK - it isn't going to happen. We have to visit the US when we want to play with guns :-)" CreationDate="2012-04-26T16:09:07.813" UserId="57" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1348" PostId="78" Score="3" Text="There is also the concept that in law enforcement, before you are cleared to use less than lethal weapons (mace, tazer) you must first experience what it feels like.  This does two things: lessens the likelihood that the weapon will be used inappropriately, and gives the weilder an expectation of what will happen.  When done in group sessions, it is likely that you will have someone who isn't affected the same way.  For example, some people are simply resistant to capsaicin acid (mace) and merely get angry.  Others are reduced to crying heaps on the floor." CreationDate="2012-04-26T16:15:29.813" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1349" PostId="860" Score="2" Text="@Dave That whole concept is entirely counter-productive. Arresting the whole body makes locking the wrist both pointless and tiresome. Even in ground grappling, if you're controlling the wrist properly, the end result should be a seizing of all the muscles in the arm to the hips." CreationDate="2012-04-26T17:22:20.013" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1350" PostId="860" Score="0" Text="This digression went to [chat](http://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/4371925#4371925)." CreationDate="2012-04-26T18:33:00.213" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1351" PostId="391" Score="0" Text="Because these are low-percentage techniques that rely on the person choking you to be unskilled and of weak will, and I'm surprised to find someone who has tested these techniques in sparring against a skilled opponent and still thinks these techniques will work." CreationDate="2012-04-26T20:53:14.923" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1352" PostId="391" Score="1" Text="What are the statistics that you base to call these techniques &quot;low percentage&quot;. Even a skilled, &quot;strong willed&quot; attacker will have trouble holding a chock with a finger digging deep into their eye socket. These are not meant for competition. Also I have been taught these defenses by various experienced instructors. They may not be your personal cup of tea, but they are by no means ineffective." CreationDate="2012-04-26T21:48:22.390" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1353" PostId="391" Score="1" Text="I know of no relevant statistics. I simply disagree based on first-hand evidence." CreationDate="2012-04-26T22:31:23.240" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1355" PostId="873" Score="0" Text="The slow repitition is how my block and counter got good.  I can respond to an attack well and turn that into a score for me.  However, it's the launch when I'm the attacker where I'm not as good." CreationDate="2012-04-27T16:23:44.343" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1356" PostId="873" Score="0" Text="+1 for clapping pushups and reaction training/body reading. Similar answer [here](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/709/347)." CreationDate="2012-04-27T16:24:53.410" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1358" PostId="870" Score="0" Text="I'll definitely have to step up my sprinting, and I'll probably up the power cleans too.  I'll be mapping out my training for the next year soon, and will keep this in mind.  While they will help with foot speed I also need hand speed." CreationDate="2012-04-27T16:36:00.163" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1359" PostId="870" Score="0" Text="@BerinLoritsch For hand speed, perhaps push presses and clap push-ups? Maybe ball slams too? I haven't tried these seriously." CreationDate="2012-04-27T17:13:20.027" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1363" PostId="37" Score="0" Text="@JackBNimble Some forms of hadaka-jime (judo) and the guillotine (BJJ) can attack the trachea." CreationDate="2012-04-27T20:23:25.937" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1364" PostId="869" Score="0" Text="I think we're using different definitions of &quot;power&quot;. When I say &quot;power&quot; I mean &quot;strength applied rapidly&quot;, and training power means increasing the speed at which you can move. I *think* that when you say &quot;power&quot; you mean &quot;hitting hard&quot; or &quot;imparting force to the target&quot;. Is my understanding accurate?" CreationDate="2012-04-27T20:41:47.270" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1365" PostId="869" Score="0" Text="That is correct.  Most people I've talked to in martial arts tend to apply the word &quot;power&quot; with that understanding.  While not accurate in physics terms, that's a common understanding." CreationDate="2012-04-28T11:05:46.637" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1366" PostId="869" Score="1" Text="Also, accurately enough, I am trying to improve the &quot;rapid&quot; component of the &quot;strength applied rapidly&quot;.  The strength is there (and continually being worked on).  I perform power cleans with regularity, but I'm still not quick when closing distance." CreationDate="2012-04-28T11:08:55.683" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1367" PostId="2" Score="0" Text="I have a TotalGym 1000 cable bench, which I bought because I saw Chuck Norris advertising it (many years ago and yes I still blush about buying from an infomercial). One of the advantages of the bench is that depending on your posture, you can have the cable pull back in line with pretty much any strike." CreationDate="2012-04-29T15:26:21.883" UserId="179" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1368" PostId="876" Score="0" Text="Agreed, though in TKD, depending on the style and type of sparring gear, the point around damage to others is much less (particularly those who use hand guards)." CreationDate="2012-04-30T11:45:45.327" UserId="338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1369" PostId="37" Score="2" Text="poorly performed cross chokes or kata juji jime can also attack the trachea." CreationDate="2012-04-30T15:56:10.353" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1370" PostId="877" Score="0" Text="Perhaps injury come from holding the open hand rigidly. Or sparring fast with lots of tension." CreationDate="2012-04-30T17:54:17.503" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1371" PostId="877" Score="0" Text="Both of those are true - especially the last one (I have &quot;first-hand&quot; witnessed stories, no pun intended), though coming from a karate background, I think it's mostly injuries from a non-rigidly held hand and fingers getting in the way of a punch, bending the wrong way, or getting caught in a gi, and bending the wrong way. Or blocking incorrectly. And bending the wrong way. There's a pattern. :)" CreationDate="2012-04-30T20:19:01.960" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1372" PostId="875" Score="1" Text="Clarification: is this about open-handed *blocks* or open-handed *techniques*? The latter includes a whole host of unrelated stuff like palm strikes, eye pokes, and grabbing, whereas the former is just about parries and blocks. Very different questions IMO." CreationDate="2012-04-30T20:48:14.613" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1373" PostId="875" Score="0" Text="@Rophuine What branch of TKD do you study? It may help get you better answers (hand position may vary from branch to branch, not just style to style)." CreationDate="2012-04-30T21:58:56.473" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1374" PostId="875" Score="0" Text="One thing that I would like to see answers address is the type of injuries (David's answer does a job with this).  I prefer an open hand for many blocks during sparring and have seen far more jammed fingers than breaks or other injuries, but my experience may not be that of Rophuine." CreationDate="2012-05-01T00:52:35.960" UserId="338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1375" PostId="877" Score="1" Text="In other words, if you are going to punch, punch. If you're not punching, don't punch." CreationDate="2012-05-01T01:38:18.477" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1376" PostId="376" Score="0" Text="In competition when an opponent closes the distance on you, are elbow strikes to the head, head grab + knee, or throws allowed?" CreationDate="2012-05-01T01:44:00.280" UserDisplayName="user421" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1377" PostId="376" Score="0" Text="@Jason In many TKD competitions, they barely allow *punching*. I'm pretty sure that elbows, knees, grabbing, throws, and sweeps are all verboten." CreationDate="2012-05-01T02:31:34.963" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1378" PostId="189" Score="1" Text="I would say that a reputable dojo will not have any &quot;hidden costs&quot;.  All costs *should* be clearly labelled in either their web site or literature." CreationDate="2012-05-01T06:31:35.193" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1379" PostId="877" Score="0" Text="I could go for extra glibness with &quot;Make up your mind&quot; :)" CreationDate="2012-05-01T08:42:01.710" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1380" PostId="376" Score="0" Text="WTF or ITF-based discipline? WTF is very light on punching, but most ITF-based schools don't have the same stylistic issue with punching :)" CreationDate="2012-05-01T13:28:50.337" UserId="338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1381" PostId="538" Score="2" Text="6'2&quot; and this is absolutely true - especially with the comment about not letting up once you're inside the guard. The only thing to watch out for is hooking techniques that end up hitting to the back of your head." CreationDate="2012-05-01T13:56:04.503" UserId="338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1382" PostId="189" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion I'm of the mind that there's no need for contracts, period. Provide a quality product (i.e. your classes) and you'll have retention. If they have to break (in cases such as economic downturn), you can't get blood from a stone anyhow. People have to be responsible for their own decisions, though, and if they can live with the fine print they may or may not read, then the contract won't be a big deal. *Caveat emptor*." CreationDate="2012-05-01T16:20:13.450" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1383" PostId="161" Score="1" Text="To add to this, in my experience, weight lifting (StrongLifts, specifically) has helped me if for no other reason than learning my limits and forms for certain things. For example, learning to deadlift has helped me learn how to do a particular body slam that we do for practising/testing rear breakfalls, if for no other reason than teaching good lifting form." CreationDate="2012-05-01T19:38:54.923" UserId="341" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1384" PostId="189" Score="0" Text="I think we agree yet again!" CreationDate="2012-05-01T20:14:34.757" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1391" PostId="893" Score="1" Text="I'm pretty sure that shoes *are* sold by width: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoe_size#Width_designators - though you might need to find a specialty shoe store that has your specific size on the rack." CreationDate="2012-05-02T14:12:19.210" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1392" PostId="892" Score="0" Text="Have you discussed this with your instructor? They may recommend, or only allow, some specific kinds of shoes in class. Particularly for sparring." CreationDate="2012-05-02T14:14:03.123" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1398" PostId="892" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke I disagree. It's pretty well-understood what a TKD class entails: indoor practice of kihon, kata, and kumite. (Translate to Korean for best results.)" CreationDate="2012-05-02T18:34:46.153" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1401" PostId="892" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Oh. See, I did not know that. So I don't think it's all that well-understood." CreationDate="2012-05-02T19:51:38.053" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1402" PostId="866" Score="2" Text="re: &quot;The electroencephalograph recorded symptoms very similar to that of a short epileptic seizure.&quot; http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/18/health/mounting-data-on-epilepsy-point-to-dangers-of-repeated-seizures.html?pagewanted=all&amp;src=pm One occurrence here and there is *unlikely* to hurt anyone, but recurrent exposure can create worse conditions, too. Basic &quot;rule of thumb&quot;: Everything in moderation." CreationDate="2012-05-03T18:07:24.650" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1403" PostId="866" Score="2" Text="@stslavik *If* the similarities between choking and epilepsy hold true, which the electroencephalogram only hints at, then *repeated* chokings-to-unconsciousness *might* cause damage (such as shrinking of the hippocampus), which would give us a *marginal* increase in health risks. Since we're talking about *maybe* half a dozen choke-outs over a lifetime maximum, as compared to uncontrolled epileptics, my Bat-signal is not going off." CreationDate="2012-05-03T18:33:15.037" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1404" PostId="892" Score="0" Text="Need a little more information to effectively answer this one, but wrestling shoes of various sorts should come in a range of effective widths (same as other shoes), though you may have to custom order them." CreationDate="2012-05-03T18:35:17.750" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1405" PostId="866" Score="1" Text="The common groundhog hides its head *every time* it sees a shadow, regardless of whether it's a predator or not. It develops this as a self-preservation instinct; those that do not duck when the wrong shadow crosses over are eaten. Just something to consider." CreationDate="2012-05-03T21:27:55.053" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1406" PostId="892" Score="1" Text="Thanks for the helpful comments. I did spend quite a bit of time looking into wrestling shoes that are sold on various martial arts websites, but didn't feel good about ordering without first trying them on.&#xA;To address the issue of whether it's allowed, Yes, I did talk with the school, and they were specific that the shoes needed to be wrestling/martial arts shoes (they spend a lot of money on mats, and don't want them destroyed).&#xA;In the end though...my kids lost interest in the classes, so we all abandoned the lessons. No lessons means no shoes." CreationDate="2012-05-03T22:30:07.800" UserId="425" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1407" PostId="264" Score="0" Text="Well, there is at least one fictional example, the Gun Katas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcTft47wsDg&amp;feature=related . Unfortunately though, in real life, once you have a firearm in your hand, martial-arts-like skills do very little value addition to your fighting ability." CreationDate="2012-05-04T10:39:47.460" UserId="426" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1408" PostId="899" Score="0" Text="In addition, you can get replacement uppers for your rifles and pistols that fire Simunitions. They hurt a lot more than paintballs (unless you're really ratcheting up the air pressure) to provide that extra little bit of motivation to stay behind cover. You also have the advantage of using your same weapons system. Magazine/ammo carriage, reloads, malfunction clearing (you'll get a LOT of practice on malfunction clearing), etc." CreationDate="2012-03-27T21:08:58.407" UserDisplayName="Bryson" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1409" PostId="131" Score="5" Text="Heavy weights does NOT make you slower. In fact many professional sprinters trains a lot with heavy weights to improve their speed." CreationDate="2012-05-05T11:56:22.833" UserId="428" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1410" PostId="131" Score="0" Text="@Imbrondir Sprinters train with heavy weights to become stronger and more powerful. But this is not the same as speed. To improve speed, sprinters do plyometric excersises with light weights." CreationDate="2012-05-05T19:49:29.710" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1411" PostId="903" Score="0" Text="Not really an answer, but...there is a sense in which the difficulties of small classes argue in favor of relatively frequent ranking exams. That way you can hand the student a syllabus for the test and they have an opportunity to say &quot;Uh...do I know *this* stuff?&quot;. Then you can fix the deficiencies in your recent coverage." CreationDate="2012-05-07T12:25:23.153" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1412" PostId="903" Score="0" Text="*Great* question. +1" CreationDate="2012-05-07T16:20:49.310" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1413" PostId="903" Score="0" Text="I'd like more information: how long between each ranking test, and how many times do they train with you per week?" CreationDate="2012-05-07T17:05:24.060" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1414" PostId="904" Score="0" Text="A little bit of each for me. I plan to hit four of five broad areas in the next month or so, and announce this in advance. Then I go with the flow at each lesson." CreationDate="2012-05-07T17:31:29.347" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1415" PostId="904" Score="0" Text="It can help too to ask yourself what your goal is. Sometimes your long term goal is just to get them capable to defend themselves. Other times, it's about getting them capable to do one technique. Only you know your expectations." CreationDate="2012-05-07T17:40:37.110" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1416" PostId="264" Score="1" Text="@HNL Incorrect. If you're thinking of martial-arts-like skills as punching and kicking in a very limited fashion, then perhaps; however, the principles of angles, distance, and timing along with the philosophical preparedness to cause injury to another, as well as balance and coordination all have a great deal to do with your fighting ability with a firearm." CreationDate="2012-05-07T17:44:43.540" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1417" PostId="903" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke I can answer that, but I don't know how relevant it is for the general case since all that it changes are the specifics of the application and the specifics of the pacing. The question stands regardless of the number of belts, time between them, or the number of lessons involved." CreationDate="2012-05-07T18:09:40.147" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1418" PostId="903" Score="0" Text="Hmm. Interesting argument. I feel like a small group that means once a week and is testing every year does not face the same problem as a small group that means three times a week and is testing every year.. But you might be right.. I'll see if I can figure out an answer that does not depend on these qualifications." CreationDate="2012-05-07T18:59:11.547" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1420" PostId="903" Score="0" Text="Around 4—5 most days, including the head instructor.  A few more during the summer." CreationDate="2012-05-08T14:16:56.013" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1423" PostId="180" Score="0" Text="&quot;playing in the dirt releases endorphins&quot; What do you mean? Playing inside doesn't?" CreationDate="2012-05-08T18:37:15.853" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1424" PostId="180" Score="0" Text="Not in the same way, no. Bacteria and chemical compounds present in soil can lead to a cascade of hormones that produce a euphoric effect." CreationDate="2012-05-08T21:12:24.313" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1425" PostId="902" Score="0" Text="Elevate heart rate is only &quot;somewhat&quot; like a combat simulation. No adrenaline dump, no tunnel vision, no hearing lose, no one attacking you, etc.&#xA;&#xA;I know about the &quot;crossshot&quot; stuff out there, personally I find it more humorous then useful. YMMV" CreationDate="2012-05-08T21:22:09.620" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1426" PostId="220" Score="1" Text="being &quot;great&quot; is a very subjective term and lots of it depends on the programming being done at the affiliate level." CreationDate="2012-05-08T21:27:53.030" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1427" PostId="902" Score="0" Text="@WayneInML True. Competition is my go-to answer for adding an adrenaline dump with attendant hearing loss, attackers, tunnel vision, et al...maybe a paintball game interspersed with circuit training would be better?" CreationDate="2012-05-08T21:36:29.093" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1428" PostId="902" Score="0" Text="I don't see circuit training being of much use when trying to do combat simulations, unless your work/conditions require that you be able to operate from a fatigued state." CreationDate="2012-05-08T22:37:50.480" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1430" PostId="912" Score="6" Text="Will there be other people on the panel? Have you consulted with them about it?" CreationDate="2012-05-09T03:51:53.320" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1431" PostId="161" Score="0" Text="While not a fan of the StrongLifts promoter, the program is a good solid beginners program.  NOTE: Deadlifts help improve your knockout resistance." CreationDate="2012-05-09T18:13:21.317" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1432" PostId="855" Score="0" Text="Many martial arts schools incorporate bodyweight exercise prior to class as a warmup.  Things like pushups, situps, etc.  This is a form of strength training that many people miss.  Another way of gaining strength is performing katas isometrically.  But the bottom line is: strength helps both striking power and your ability to block or even absorb a strike." CreationDate="2012-05-09T18:17:46.867" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1433" PostId="876" Score="0" Text="It is part of the techniques you learn.  Open hand blocks in a tournament (psuedo-blocks and the like) are fine.  Even at brown belt level, ridgehand techniques are allowed as long as it isn't a blind technique and has control." CreationDate="2012-05-09T18:24:42.957" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1436" PostId="915" Score="0" Text="Maybe I'm not phrasing myself well. I don't mean &quot;who is allowed to compete?&quot; (which your rules links refer to) or &quot;who will best represent the dojo?&quot; (which your paragraphs about techniques to know addresses). I'm trying to ask &quot;what should a judo coach make sure of before he allows a new adult white belt to compete?&quot;" CreationDate="2012-05-09T19:37:07.867" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1440" PostId="914" Score="2" Text="I don't agree to any of your points in &quot;Martial Science&quot; block. Many great masters would not pass this. Watch Karate Kid to get an example :) (BTW, martial art is not a science.)" CreationDate="2012-05-13T16:31:14.507" UserId="93" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1441" PostId="918" Score="3" Text="Can you expand on the particular techniques rather than linking to a video? It would help to have that descriptive text here in case that video is ever removed or if people can't access YouTube (and for whatever other reasons)." CreationDate="2012-05-14T14:22:01.963" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1442" PostId="920" Score="0" Text="That is a very interesting interpretation with a good potential for implications down the line. Following sen-no-sen to its most rigorous. I always say that a bunkai/waza ought to be a response that leaves no room for the attacker to continue. What we are responding to is always the trick. Here, you are saying we are responding to intent... Hmm." CreationDate="2012-05-14T15:52:28.847" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1445" PostId="921" Score="0" Text="Thanks. What are you training ?" CreationDate="2012-05-14T16:13:15.920" UserId="412" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1446" PostId="920" Score="0" Text="The &quot;intent&quot; you're responding to here could be someone charging you angrily; they haven't attacked yet but it's clear what they're trying to do. You're not allowing the attacker to continue because you're punching them in the solar plexus three times and driving them back. The final x-block-high, turn, and strike-to-rear move would be the finisher in that sequence." CreationDate="2012-05-14T16:29:17.050" UserId="445" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1449" PostId="920" Score="0" Text="Ooh, you went way further than I intended. I literally just meant the original step/block/punch sequence. Nothing after that! :)" CreationDate="2012-05-14T16:54:40.623" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1457" PostId="923" Score="0" Text="Unfortunately, &quot;iaijutsu&quot; is like &quot;karate&quot;: an overarching description for many styles. I am not aware of an organization that does promotion of karate or iaijutsu in the US. Additionally, do you truly mean iaijutsu, or do you mean iaido?" CreationDate="2012-05-14T18:28:04.297" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1461" PostId="925" Score="2" Text="I would love to agree with you. Unfortunately, I have felt this done to me, had no idea was going to happen, had never seen this before, and it worked." CreationDate="2012-05-14T19:16:48.277" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1465" PostId="927" Score="0" Text="Nice answer. Do you see any prerequisite strength or physical attributes for adult newcomers who want to compete?" CreationDate="2012-05-14T20:08:14.383" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1466" PostId="925" Score="2" Text="The description above is accurate, but only partial in its explanation and insight. *Any* technique in application is only part of the picture; it may or may not work, so the artist is prepared to perform another movement or adjustment to create an effect. This answer is of relatively low quality since the assumptions made are not grounded in anything other than speculation and bias." CreationDate="2012-05-14T20:21:01.850" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1468" PostId="920" Score="0" Text="I know; I was just following it up with what might happen later. My original analysis was just for the step/block/punch sequence." CreationDate="2012-05-14T20:23:09.380" UserId="445" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1470" PostId="923" Score="0" Text="Good point...I'm not actually married to a particular style (Eishin Ryu is what I'm familiar with, but that familiarity is purely academic). For this question, I do mean iaijutsu, though your question makes me think a question around the difference would be good for the site (I'm not versed enough to answer myself beyond the historical and philosophical differences between the two)." CreationDate="2012-05-14T20:25:02.313" UserId="338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1471" PostId="925" Score="0" Text="@stslavik There's a difference between a charlatan switching to another technique and applying it brutally as punishment for making a demonstration not work (as documented, for instance, in Angry White Pyjamas), and executing *renraku-waza*. My point is that the technique does not work. If I said that less than clearly, perhaps you could help me rephrase." CreationDate="2012-05-14T20:26:53.330" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1472" PostId="923" Score="1" Text="The basic idea for the difference between -jutsu and -do is something I went over in this question: http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/676/what-are-the-key-differences-between-kendo-and-kenjutsu :-)" CreationDate="2012-05-14T21:07:50.120" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1473" PostId="925" Score="0" Text="What is your *basis* in claiming the technique does not work? (BTW, my comment was simply meant as a means for explaining my down vote – it's not required, but since users have asked, I figure it was polite)." CreationDate="2012-05-14T21:14:00.793" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1474" PostId="928" Score="1" Text="This description fits my understanding of a parlor trick, as described in my answer." CreationDate="2012-05-14T21:54:01.100" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1475" PostId="925" Score="1" Text="I'm with Dave on this, I think this is a good answer!" CreationDate="2012-05-15T00:48:26.273" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1476" PostId="875" Score="0" Text="I'm just interested in open-handed blocks - based on the fact that most blocks can be performed either open- or closed-handed, and junior students are usually told to keep their fists closed during sparring, particularly when blocking kicks." CreationDate="2012-05-15T01:08:13.043" UserId="48" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1477" PostId="924" Score="0" Text="It is very important to practice those indoor--barefoot skills in various footwear on various terrain. Not surprisingly you have to re-learn the skills. The interesting bit as far as I'm concerned is that I think it improved by in-the-dojo footwork." CreationDate="2012-05-15T02:21:25.863" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1478" PostId="925" Score="0" Text="Those wishing to see some of my reasoning behind my answer to @stslavik's separate question would best mosey on over to chat, particularly [this](http://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/4602953#4602953)." CreationDate="2012-05-15T02:58:31.510" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1479" PostId="923" Score="0" Text="How mobile are you? I'm not sure it would be too helpful to find a menkyo-kaiden holder in Minnesota if you're in Florida. If your question is simply about finding a teacher I'm afraid I would have to vote to close as too localized." CreationDate="2012-05-15T03:02:24.690" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1482" PostId="923" Score="0" Text="Not real mobile - the real question is about a broader organization that can provide support for both students and instructors (like AUSKDF does for Kendo) ." CreationDate="2012-05-15T11:07:39.753" UserId="338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1483" PostId="939" Score="1" Text="Stepping forward+reverse punches are actually fairly common in the hyung forms. The comment around stepping backwards+reverse punch being reserved for more advanced forms is consistent between the two styles." CreationDate="2012-05-15T11:14:27.890" UserId="338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1484" PostId="934" Score="1" Text="That's a weird distinction. What is it called when you step forward and reverse punch? What rule is broken, according to the person teaching you, that makes it not-a-reverse-punch?" CreationDate="2012-05-15T13:01:39.893" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1485" PostId="934" Score="1" Text="That's interesting. Sounds like it's just a case of semantics here where both meanings are valid." CreationDate="2012-05-15T13:15:58.107" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1486" PostId="927" Score="1" Text="@DaveLiepmann  I've added some more information about adults.  I don't think there is much difference for adults then kids." CreationDate="2012-05-15T13:24:31.153" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1487" PostId="935" Score="1" Text="I think a better question is why doesn't a single definitive historical resource exist. Your question leans too much on polling for various answers which doesn't fit the Q&amp;A model of Stack Exchange." CreationDate="2012-05-15T13:31:52.407" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1489" PostId="933" Score="0" Text="It's an interesting idea, but you can see that in the video the ruffian's foot is planted. In the pictures, the ruffian is in an elongated stance, but even then... It's weird. The thing is, the cane gives you some leverage, so you don't HAVE to do it before the foot is planted. (I managed to get this far with my friend)." CreationDate="2012-05-15T14:21:18.323" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1490" PostId="932" Score="0" Text="The problem my friend and I came during your description, at the &quot;and upwards&quot; part. It turned out to not work well for us, because we could not separate the legs far enough to create sufficient imbalance." CreationDate="2012-05-15T14:26:28.923" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1497" PostId="934" Score="0" Text="I would recommend asking your current instructor. Something as simple as &quot;Why do we step backwards with the reverse punch?&quot; might bring you the answer to your question. If you feel unsatisfied, see if you can talk with him/her after class for a few minutes." CreationDate="2012-05-15T14:43:53.740" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1499" PostId="925" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke The technique having worked on you is not inconsistent with my analysis." CreationDate="2012-05-15T15:15:44.517" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1500" PostId="928" Score="2" Text="Coming from a background as a magician, and having a long background of martial arts training, I'm quite confident that what I describe isn't a parlor trick; these same principles underly every technique in martial arts in one way or another, even the ones you train in." CreationDate="2012-05-15T15:47:51.273" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1501" PostId="941" Score="2" Text="Just to clarify a point. *Aikido*, derived from *Daito-ryu Aiki-jutsu*, does not have roots in *judo* although *Shodokan Aikido* has some inspiration from *judo* training methods.  Yet, Aikido comes from ju-jutsu roots thus not all ju-jutsu evolved into judo." CreationDate="2012-05-15T15:48:46.590" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1502" PostId="941" Score="1" Text="good point @Sardathrion  I didn't mean to imply that Aikido was part of this transition.  I don't know a lot about aikido." CreationDate="2012-05-15T16:04:43.590" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1503" PostId="923" Score="1" Text="Sounds like a reasonable question, so long as we're sticking with the existence of organizations in the US for *iaijutsu*; if we start getting into individual instructors, that's off topic for this site." CreationDate="2012-05-15T17:43:40.840" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1504" PostId="945" Score="3" Text="Welcome to the site, and thanks for answering!" CreationDate="2012-05-15T18:42:08.350" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1505" PostId="945" Score="0" Text="Thanks for stopping by. I particularly enjoy your points about bridging formal technique with sparring, as well as your parallel to koryu." CreationDate="2012-05-15T18:58:55.843" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1506" PostId="945" Score="0" Text="Hope you'll stay around too!" CreationDate="2012-05-15T19:02:46.020" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1507" PostId="945" Score="0" Text="Thanks.  I'll be happy to try to answer any questions about Bartitsu; it's been my main hobby interest for the past ten years or so." CreationDate="2012-05-15T19:09:23.350" UserId="449" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1508" PostId="925" Score="1" Text="I was not expecting a particular technique to be performed, and I certainly did not want to please anyone. How is this consistent with your analysis that the uke is eager to please?" CreationDate="2012-05-15T19:37:05.020" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1509" PostId="933" Score="0" Text="I'll confess I didn't watch the video. I was just going from the pictures." CreationDate="2012-05-15T20:47:40.033" UserId="443" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1510" PostId="921" Score="0" Text="Okinawan Kenpo and some RBSD." CreationDate="2012-05-15T21:51:18.753" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1511" PostId="932" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke I think that the best way to understand that part of the technique is to study judo's *kosotogari* in depth. I don't know how to describe it with words except to point to a &quot;chopping&quot; motion." CreationDate="2012-05-16T02:52:32.240" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1512" PostId="941" Score="1" Text="No problems, I did not think you were even implying it.  Just a small clarification really, nothing more.  Your answer is a good." CreationDate="2012-05-16T06:43:02.037" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1513" PostId="932" Score="0" Text="Looked up kosotogari on Youtube. I understand what you mean - it's the traditional way of taking somebody down by breaking equilibrium and redirecting their weight. I can't map that technique to the &quot;and upwards&quot; part of your answer, but it definitely maps to something else a friend said involving a twisting motion with the cane to generate the same kind of directional force on the ankle (which I haven't been able to try yet)." CreationDate="2012-05-16T13:31:08.793" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1514" PostId="947" Score="2" Text="I like the point on iaido, so +1 for that, but I think your impression of rapier is a bit off. We did live steel tests on melons and sides of beef and pork: if you hit with anything other than the lightest possible touch with a blade, you ended up binding your blade and not being able to retrieve it quickly.  So hitting with power was never the intent, speed was." CreationDate="2012-05-16T14:30:23.183" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1515" PostId="947" Score="0" Text="@DavidH.Clements Edited my answer to explain my point." CreationDate="2012-05-16T14:40:06.207" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1517" PostId="951" Score="0" Text="A) Do you practice sanshou in addition to tuishou? B) How is this any different from the goal of *all* sparring, to wit, &quot;Technical knowledge is not enough. One must transcend techniques so that the art becomes an artless art, growing out of the unconscious.&quot; (Daisetsu Suzuki) This does not by any means preclude the study of technique, it just means that getting good requires internalization of the technique." CreationDate="2012-05-16T20:06:44.167" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1518" PostId="951" Score="1" Text="I agree with @DaveLiepmann. Sparring training's primary goal could be stated exactly as you stated for push-hands: to &quot;maintain no-mind even through disruption by outside agency&quot;." CreationDate="2012-05-16T20:10:59.870" UserId="334" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1519" PostId="951" Score="2" Text="Having done mostly external styles I have rarely achieved no-mind in sparring...but ah!...when it happens it is a beautiful thing. I have *got* to back into regular workouts soon." CreationDate="2012-05-16T21:10:55.957" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1520" PostId="951" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann sidran32 Aside from a few like-minded individuals and friends, most of the people I sparred with secretly try to win. That's not no-mind. &quot;No-mind&quot; is not really internalization of technique. It results from Vispassana practice (or similar variants)." CreationDate="2012-05-16T21:12:47.687" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1521" PostId="951" Score="0" Text="@Ho-ShengHsiao OK. At the moment this answer avoids the question, namely, how to move from grappling-only practice to striking-and-grappling practice in taiji. Saying that tuishou is about no-mind is immaterial to that question, as far as I can tell." CreationDate="2012-05-16T21:18:33.547" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1522" PostId="951" Score="1" Text="@DaveLiepmann Like I said in the first sentence of my answer, &quot;This won't be a popular answer.&quot;" CreationDate="2012-05-16T21:21:34.480" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1523" PostId="951" Score="0" Text="At the moment, *it's not an answer*, since it doesn't address the question. If you added a description about how (and I'm guessing here) it's not necessary to progress to sparring, that would be an answer." CreationDate="2012-05-16T21:22:29.940" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1524" PostId="951" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann It is an answer. Feel free to downvote it if you can't see the connection. I don't mind." CreationDate="2012-05-16T21:23:42.947" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1525" PostId="951" Score="0" Text="So downvoted, but I would gladly reverse that upon editing such that the answer refers to some aspect of the question. Perhaps I'm missing something, but at the moment this seems to be a treatise about the philosophical aspects of taiji push hands, unrelated to sanshou practice." CreationDate="2012-05-16T21:50:51.760" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1527" PostId="951" Score="2" Text="@Ho-ShengHsiao If those sparring are trying to win, then they aren't sparring properly. That is totally missing the purpose of sparring." CreationDate="2012-05-16T22:17:48.537" UserId="334" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1528" PostId="951" Score="0" Text="@Ho-ShengHsiao Also, I attributed (in my mind) that the concept of &quot;no-mind&quot; is similar to when Bruce Lee talked about &quot;no technique&quot;, in that you no longer are performing rote movements, but your body automatically moves in response to your opponent without the need for involvement of conscious thought. If I misinterpreted, please let me know." CreationDate="2012-05-16T22:19:00.167" UserId="334" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1529" PostId="951" Score="3" Text="@sidran32 I don't like describing ladders of attainment. &quot;No technique&quot; is the minimum required to practice &quot;no mind&quot;, otherwise you would just be flailing. The &quot;no mind&quot; I am talking about is more of investigating this http://bit.ly/hardcore-dharma-three-characteristics during push-hands." CreationDate="2012-05-17T00:05:25.547" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1530" PostId="946" Score="0" Text="There you go.. That last part is what I was missing. Thanks." CreationDate="2012-05-17T01:38:42.997" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1535" PostId="955" Score="0" Text="Could you provide some detail on step 3, high/low patterns?" CreationDate="2012-05-17T03:21:22.177" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1536" PostId="953" Score="0" Text="Unless you do sport competition, how are you going to rate with any form of statistical significance the criterion of &quot;*successfully apply techniques learned in class on an untrained but motivated opponent in a real situation*&quot;?" CreationDate="2012-05-17T08:47:59.973" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1537" PostId="953" Score="2" Text="Whats so bad about this question? Why the down votes? (I'm just wondering, not trying to sound annoyed.)" CreationDate="2012-05-17T10:09:37.917" UserId="268" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1538" PostId="953" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion &quot;I can easily handle newcomers during the push hands and san shou portions of class.&quot; Or, just a guess is fine. A certain amount of conjecture is understood to be necessary, as are outliers (e.g. it might take a frail elderly man 2X time to get good, instead of X)." CreationDate="2012-05-17T12:43:07.290" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1541" PostId="955" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Unfortunately, I cannot, lacking knowledge in this particular area. Since TaiChi has strikes that are high, middle and low, including kicks, I would expect these patterns to include the various strikes and each of the 'eight energies' of taichi, in various combinations. I did not add anything about it because this is all just conjecture for me right now." CreationDate="2012-05-17T13:23:48.413" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1542" PostId="918" Score="0" Text="@Matt, I see your point, but how can you describe 5 min video full of techniques? That would take few hours to describe, thousands of words, and who would ever read it? I'm afraid there's no way to answer this question but to watch the video." CreationDate="2012-05-17T14:08:46.900" UserId="93" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1543" PostId="918" Score="1" Text="Then perhaps narrow your question down to a select part of the video, list them out, name the common moves, give *some* description of what you're asking. We've gone through this in [another question](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/posts/922/revisions), and I've explained my reasoning extensively in [a meta post](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/192/15) (see also the comments and the chat links). If anything, we *can* request YouTube embedding if it would benefit the community here, but the video by itself shouldn't *be* the question." CreationDate="2012-05-17T14:23:43.613" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1545" PostId="956" Score="2" Text="Welcome to the site. Generally, answers here need *substance*, not just links (links can go dead and result in a loss of information). Perhaps you could paraphrase what it is that makes those links relevant to this discussion. See [Answering Questions on martialarts.stackexchange.com](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/171/answering-questions-on-martialarts-stackexchange-com)" CreationDate="2012-05-17T15:42:36.477" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1546" PostId="958" Score="0" Text="I appreciate this answer, but the blog post (which proposes an...interesting mathematical theory about quantifying the attainment of skill) seems to contradict your penultimate paragraph: &quot;Any amount of tai chi will give you health benefits...[but] on the health path you are not learning a martial art any more, and so you should not expect to ever gain any meaningful self defence skills or the really deep physiological, structural and awareness changes that transform your body.&quot;" CreationDate="2012-05-17T16:13:59.023" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1547" PostId="956" Score="0" Text="A summary of Abernethy's content would be swell. He's got good stuff, but a raw link just isn't helpful." CreationDate="2012-05-17T17:05:52.533" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1548" PostId="958" Score="0" Text="I thought people might enjoy the 'mathematical theory'. I couldn't keep a straight face. I don't think this contradicts the penultimate paragraph: I said &quot;you will most likely not get ALL the health [...] improvements&quot;. &quot;The health path&quot; is what some modified forms of TaiChi teach, completely foregoing all martial endeavors." CreationDate="2012-05-17T19:49:17.060" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1549" PostId="958" Score="0" Text="I couldn't keep a straight face either. If only training were so straightforward. :)" CreationDate="2012-05-17T19:50:01.177" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1550" PostId="964" Score="4" Text="I usually see it anglicized as &quot;pinan&quot;, which might help you in your search." CreationDate="2012-05-17T20:44:10.953" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1551" PostId="935" Score="0" Text="Good point. Seems I need to rethink my question a bit :) But I suspect the answer to &quot;why isn't there a definative history?&quot; is that each school tends to tell their own biased version. They are all true enough in their own right, but I've found that big picture objectivity is a rare thing." CreationDate="2012-05-17T21:56:16.933" UserId="443" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1552" PostId="966" Score="0" Text="Ah, that is what I'm looking for. Thanks!" CreationDate="2012-05-17T22:05:34.143" UserId="334" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1554" PostId="954" Score="1" Text="I'm not impressed with the swimming analogy; tai chi combat seems a bit more subtle than not drowning." CreationDate="2012-05-18T15:20:45.597" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1556" PostId="971" Score="0" Text="Could you go into some detail on silk reeling?" CreationDate="2012-05-18T15:27:22.523" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1557" PostId="971" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Not too much--I've only done a few seminars and no real practice as such. There are some videos online; the ehow ones shows a number of different aspects." CreationDate="2012-05-18T15:32:08.250" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1558" PostId="972" Score="0" Text="I thought Chen village was some sort of *taiji/tuishou* mecca, or birthplace. Is that wrong, or do you assert that they've somehow lost or changed something?" CreationDate="2012-05-18T15:49:08.987" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1560" PostId="972" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Of course it is; it's where Chen-style tai chi comes from. I assert what I asserted--I don't have much appreciation for what they're calling push. I don't know if the video is any of the ones I've seen, but one of the most discouraging things I saw was a young-ish American rolling with an elder Chen, and before any flow could even be entered, elder Chen would just disengage, and it turned into what was essentially Sumo. I have nothing against grappling; I grapple. But when I'm pushing, I want to build/test *soft* sensitivity. Just my opinion." CreationDate="2012-05-18T15:52:43.793" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1561" PostId="972" Score="0" Text="Sorry if I sounded like I was attacking you. I'm not trying to disagree, I'm just trying to get a historical perspective. Literally, &quot;how things got this way&quot; instead of advocating one method or the other." CreationDate="2012-05-18T15:54:43.813" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1562" PostId="972" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Nope, not at all. You'd probably have better luck writing directly to people involved in the US push/taiji community. I remember the first time I saw a Chen village comp I was literally agape with surprise. I also view Chen style as a bit harder than other styles--it might be interesting to track down a non-US/European comp to see what style(s) are used there." CreationDate="2012-05-18T15:57:58.687" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1563" PostId="974" Score="0" Text="Nice answer, especially the points about unknowable specifics." CreationDate="2012-05-18T16:21:00.787" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1564" PostId="975" Score="0" Text="I follow your point about focusing on whole-body integration and structure, but feel compelled to point out that there are a great many strength exercises which are in no way muscle-group-isolation. Overhead squats, Turkish get-ups, deadlifts, snatches, and many gymnastic strength movements are all commonly understood to be &quot;whole body power&quot; or &quot;whole body structure&quot; exercises." CreationDate="2012-05-18T16:52:49.217" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1566" PostId="975" Score="1" Text="*&quot;Any strengthening &quot;gym&quot; type work will basically be about isolation of muscle groups&quot;* Uhm...&quot;functional training&quot; and related regimes are not at all like that." CreationDate="2012-05-18T17:12:17.690" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1567" PostId="971" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Silk-Reeling is a *neigong* (內功 – internal skill) exercise mimicking the movements of reeling silk from silk worms; the movements are long, exaggerated, smooth, and slow (like they'd need to be to avoid damaging silk). These movements are common in Chen and Wu *taijiquan*. Hope that helps." CreationDate="2012-05-18T17:12:31.153" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1568" PostId="975" Score="0" Text="There's a notion that all workouts are created equally, which is incorrect. Georges Hebert discovered the differences between strength and usable strength in 1902 while he and his crew attempted to evacuate some 700 souls from St. Pierre in Martinique during the volcanic eruption. See [L'éducation physique ou Lentrainement complet par la méthode naturelle](http://books.google.com/books?id=Pwb1Lj9HETAC&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;source=gbs_ge_summary_r&amp;cad=0#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false)" CreationDate="2012-05-18T17:19:31.190" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1570" PostId="976" Score="0" Text="Oh, that's interesting; I've used essentially the same stuff in Japanese training; [Hojo undō](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hojo_undo)." CreationDate="2012-05-18T17:48:12.527" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1571" PostId="975" Score="1" Text="Even traditional gyms are moving towards more &quot;functional training&quot; in their personal training and group classes. But the idea that soft-art practitioners never did any hard-style physical training I think is a bit off, particularly if you've read accounts of some schools having some people training specifically for combat." CreationDate="2012-05-18T17:51:31.197" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1572" PostId="976" Score="2" Text="@DaveNewton The Okinawans stole it shamelessly. :)" CreationDate="2012-05-18T18:12:21.770" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1573" PostId="975" Score="1" Text="The point being that if you want to be able to carry a big weight while running, you should carry a big weight while running. Performing deadlifts is not equivalent to holding the posture in your legs necessary to perform silk reeling, but simply the act of silk reeling will give you the required capability." CreationDate="2012-05-18T18:38:45.740" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1578" PostId="979" Score="0" Text="As interesting as the question is, it is too broad to be answered in its current form. I don't think you can have a really comprehensive answer here since a proper answer would be something entire books are written for. See the [faq#dontask] for more information." CreationDate="2012-05-21T13:45:23.580" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1579" PostId="975" Score="0" Text="@stslavik True, but SAID will only take you so far. Doing the exact thing is great for technique, efficiency, and turning general strength into specific strength, but my understanding is that sports science agrees that a base level of strength should be achieved with general strength training, then specific strength training can help make one's overall strength activity-specific. This [rumsoakedfist post](http://rumsoakedfist.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&amp;t=11960&amp;st=0&amp;sk=t&amp;sd=a&amp;start=75#p208264) makes some good points on the issue." CreationDate="2012-05-21T14:07:15.387" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1580" PostId="975" Score="2" Text="I am happy to be educated about functional training, however that is not really the point. Tai chi (almost by definition) is the application of structure over strength. Learning structure is extremely challenging and in the early years hindered by being overly strong. Put flippantly, the more muscles you have, the more work you will have to do to relax them! Hence to answer the original Q - Basically none, and deliberately so because learning structure is what you should focus on. By the time you have learnt structure the 1000s of training hours you put in will give you the required strength." CreationDate="2012-05-21T15:28:08.010" UserId="459" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1581" PostId="996" Score="3" Text="I suppose you could say, then, that it does what it's intended to do very well. It's also good to note that the benefit isn't necessarily negated because other things can bring you further. Not everyone needs powerlifting-class strength, and not everyone needs contortionist-level flexibility." CreationDate="2012-05-22T18:38:47.567" UserId="334" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1582" PostId="996" Score="0" Text="@sidran32 Not everyone needs powerlifting-class strength, but squats and presses are probably superior to forms-only practice for building *any* level of strength for anyone but the most infirm." CreationDate="2012-05-22T19:52:51.557" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1584" PostId="996" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Probably, ya. Though I suppose, then, it depends on your goals. If your goal is to do tai chi, then doing tai chi a lot will work the right muscles enough so that you can do tai chi. If you want something else, then you may need something else." CreationDate="2012-05-22T20:43:15.050" UserId="334" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1585" PostId="996" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Although, also, it is not necessarily easy to hold the forms, especially if they're being performed slowly. Standing in stance for long periods actually can be quite tiring, even if you aren't infirm." CreationDate="2012-05-22T21:15:54.257" UserId="334" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1586" PostId="996" Score="0" Text="@sidran32 True. Stance training can be good stuff. However, it's important to keep in mind that tiring and difficult does not always equal productive." CreationDate="2012-05-22T21:17:39.260" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1587" PostId="996" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I do not know your definition of &quot;productive&quot;, but that is also very subjective. As I mentioned in chat, it also does encourage greater flexibility. Agreed that tiring and difficult doesn't mean anything on its own. However, tai chi practice means you're working yourself, potentially to muscle failure, regularly. Over time, your body builds strength and flexibility to match. As this goes on, it is customary to push yourself ever further." CreationDate="2012-05-22T21:28:02.240" UserId="334" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1588" PostId="912" Score="0" Text="There will be a total of 5-8 Black Belts on the panel, some of with whom I am familiar, others not. We won't likely discuss the questions to be asked in advance of the interview portion, which is why I would like a plethora of questions readily available, in case other judges ask similar questions to those I have prepared." CreationDate="2012-05-22T21:55:58.493" UserId="436" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1590" PostId="998" Score="0" Text="Great question. I gave it a shot, but I hope we get someone with extensive kickboxing and/or relevant medical experience to weigh in with some facts." CreationDate="2012-05-23T16:14:05.243" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1592" PostId="999" Score="2" Text="I would speculate that the damage in boxing is worse than kickboxing, because you receive many more head blows in boxing, and head blows in kickboxing are more likely to produce a fight-ending knockout/down due to lighter gloves and/or the blow being a kick." CreationDate="2012-05-24T09:54:32.677" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1594" PostId="969" Score="2" Text="I wonder how much of this is influenced by insurance companies.  In a regional TKD tournament that has gone on for over 4 decades, what constitutes legal contact and protective gear has gotten steadily more restrictive--even for upper belts.  This is due largely to placating the insurance companies who have no concept of martial arts or whether the measures they require lesson or increase the risk of injury." CreationDate="2012-05-24T12:36:37.383" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1595" PostId="969" Score="0" Text="@BerinLoritsch That's undeniably true in karate as well, but judo and wrestling have been able to keep their rules as-is. Also, judging from the Pushing the Issue documentary, I doubt that many organizers of light-contact events would prefer to run Chinese-style, hard-wrestling ones." CreationDate="2012-05-24T12:53:10.767" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1596" PostId="998" Score="2" Text="you see stars and feel light headed 2-3 times per training session?  that's bad.  those are both pretty good signs that your brains rattled, and getting damaged.  Do you wear head gear and 16 oz gloves when you spar?" CreationDate="2012-05-24T13:18:47.037" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1597" PostId="930" Score="1" Text="That's really interesting context. I hadn't ever looked up the Hung brothers before." CreationDate="2012-05-24T16:50:19.753" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1599" PostId="1001" Score="0" Text="Could you go into some detail on one of those applications, perhaps describing it in stages?" CreationDate="2012-05-24T21:16:56.550" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1600" PostId="1005" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I tried; I've never been particularly good at describing applications, though :)" CreationDate="2012-05-24T21:28:36.470" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1601" PostId="1005" Score="0" Text="Thanks! One point of confusion on my part--is the defender's right arm involved in any of that application?" CreationDate="2012-05-24T21:33:12.660" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1602" PostId="1005" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann The right arm is what does the initial deflection and capture. The arm break, for example, requires def. right arm to still have the attacker's right arm immobilized, otherwise there can't be a break." CreationDate="2012-05-24T21:40:17.063" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1603" PostId="1005" Score="0" Text="You know, we could use your input over at http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/995/what-aspects-of-health-does-form-based-tai-chi-improve and http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/949/what-are-tai-chis-high-percentage-push-hands-techniques :)" CreationDate="2012-05-24T21:49:01.580" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1604" PostId="771" Score="1" Text="There have been some decent answers. However I'm looking for an answer from someone with at least a moderate amount of time training with them, or an answer that references the experiences of others." CreationDate="2012-05-25T06:37:19.973" UserId="373" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1607" PostId="1006" Score="1" Text="Oh and if you are going to search for more on youtube, ignore any videos of 'sifu' Sergio Iadarola. He's an imposter." CreationDate="2012-05-25T14:35:04.747" UserId="478" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1613" PostId="998" Score="1" Text="Why don't you just stop getting hit in the head? It's not kickboxing that's bad for you, it's getting hit hard in the head. And that's bad for you regardless of what you train." CreationDate="2012-05-25T23:41:23.673" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1614" PostId="1010" Score="0" Text="I didn't see the word &quot;root&quot; used in the first link...? And for the second link, are you saying that uprooting means &quot;unbalancing&quot; and &quot;locking&quot;?" CreationDate="2012-05-26T17:08:02.657" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1615" PostId="1012" Score="2" Text="Roughly the same way you become an instructor in any other system: keep studying until you are given partial responsibility for the training of others and accumulate enough experience in that task to be ready to handle students on your own, no?" CreationDate="2012-05-26T17:50:05.607" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1616" PostId="1010" Score="2" Text="Yep. It _is_ that simple." CreationDate="2012-05-26T22:25:17.057" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1617" PostId="930" Score="1" Text="@DavidH.Clements Robert W. Smith. _Chinese Boxing_" CreationDate="2012-05-26T22:32:50.303" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1618" PostId="1010" Score="0" Text="@Ho-ShengHsiao So, unbalancing *and* locking, or unbalancing *or* locking? Or are they somehow the same thing and I'm not getting it? (If it takes more than a sentence or so, your own answer would help.) :)" CreationDate="2012-05-26T22:45:17.213" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1619" PostId="1010" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I am saying that 'uprooting' is the hidden step before you unbalance and lock." CreationDate="2012-05-27T02:31:58.347" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1620" PostId="1012" Score="0" Text="Yes, but what level is needed ? Do you need a black belt for start to be an instructor or can you instruct with only brown belt ? Can you be an instructor in 3 years ?" CreationDate="2012-05-27T15:55:20.473" UserId="412" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1621" PostId="1015" Score="0" Text="Just have a quick look but didn't find necessary requirements. They said to call for more information." CreationDate="2012-05-27T16:27:41.663" UserId="412" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1622" PostId="1015" Score="1" Text="Would you like me to call them up?" CreationDate="2012-05-27T16:31:45.577" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1623" PostId="1014" Score="0" Text="In the case of an uppercut I figure out the leverage effect when you hit the chin. But for a straight punch are you sure there is any leverage effect ? I would think that doing a straight punch to the chin you will have a lot of chance to broke it but not a lot of chance to knockout." CreationDate="2012-05-27T16:37:23.680" UserId="412" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1628" PostId="1012" Score="0" Text="I actually think its pretty quick, its not quite like a normal martial art.  The core basics are very very simple and I think the idea is you can teach these to people very quickly so they develop some useful skills in very little time.   It's not meant to be fully comprehensive with lots of techniques.  So the basic instructor is not to be confused with being a &quot;black belt&quot; in other arts." CreationDate="2012-05-27T21:00:46.643" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1636" PostId="1015" Score="0" Text="nice irony. There is several reason why I don't want to call. One of them is that the owner of the website have a commercial interest in the certification of the instructor. Just look at the price section who is very well documented. I would prefer something more unbiased from another source." CreationDate="2012-05-27T23:00:26.197" UserId="412" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1639" PostId="1015" Score="0" Text="I doubt you'll find that, to be honest." CreationDate="2012-05-27T23:26:47.007" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1642" PostId="998" Score="1" Text="@Trevoke While that might be a lot of contact (even for kickboxing), it's not so simple to &quot;just stop getting hit in the head&quot; if training hard in a sparring-oriented head-hitting art." CreationDate="2012-05-28T01:17:37.617" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1644" PostId="1019" Score="0" Text="Do you have any examples of a liver KO? I've never seen anyone actually lose consciousness, just collapse from pain." CreationDate="2012-05-28T01:19:21.327" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1645" PostId="1019" Score="0" Text="In wikipedia here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liver_punch the is two reference of what they call liver knockout &quot; Bernard Hopkins' knockout of Oscar de la Hoya in 2004, or the 2007 knockout of José Luis Castillo by Ricky Hatton.&quot;" CreationDate="2012-05-28T01:36:37.377" UserId="412" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1646" PostId="998" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Actually, I'd argue it _is_ that simple -- but, as you comment, not that easy. I hate to make it sound like I'm playing with words, but I don't know how else to explain it." CreationDate="2012-05-28T02:01:30.887" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1648" PostId="998" Score="0" Text="@Patricia, we don't wear head gear (but we do wear thick gloves, which I believe are 16 oz.), in fact at the three schools at which I trained, noone wore any headgear. I don't think that's customary in kickboxing in the Netherlands." CreationDate="2012-05-28T12:23:58.887" UserDisplayName="user474" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1649" PostId="998" Score="3" Text="@Trevoke, because I'm not a pro yet. Which is the reason why I'm training (and thus why I'm getting hit a lot). You don't get started in kickboxing and immediately learn how to avoid all of the blows they throw at you. That's impossible for a beginner like me when fighting a more trained opponent." CreationDate="2012-05-28T12:25:48.463" UserDisplayName="user474" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1650" PostId="999" Score="0" Text="So basically what I'm getting from all of this, is that because you can't avoid getting hit as a beginner, kickboxing is always bad for your brain. And getting better will probably mean you'll get hit less often, but every hit is still bad for you nonetheless. So basically, kickboxing is always bad for your brain, it's just a matter of *how* bad, and you're better off pursuing a career in jogging (or something) if you want to keep your brain in tip-top condition whilst trying to get your body in shape." CreationDate="2012-05-28T12:27:43.450" UserDisplayName="user474" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1651" PostId="998" Score="0" Text="@Samuel  that's a little concerning.  If you have a job that requires your brain... i'd think about learning to block and parry,  quickly.  and maybe ask about wearing head gear." CreationDate="2012-05-28T12:57:18.220" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1652" PostId="999" Score="2" Text="@Samuel Yes, but please keep the doses mentioned in mind. Every hard head impact is bad for your brain, but so is a night of binge drinking, and serious damage has been shown to start at *six years* of hard, competitive training." CreationDate="2012-05-28T14:51:34.060" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1653" PostId="1023" Score="0" Text="Did you try to discredit me ? What are you leery of ? Can you explain your said ?" CreationDate="2012-05-28T14:54:30.213" UserId="412" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1654" PostId="1023" Score="1" Text="@BillyTheWind &quot;Did I try to discredit you?&quot; I'm not sure what you mean. I believe that people that ask questions like &quot;Can I do X in Y time&quot; have motivations outside of what I prefer to deal with. Learning an art shouldn't be about time compression. For example, if I ran a dojo and someone asked me a question like that, I'd answer truthfully, but suggest they might be happier somewhere else." CreationDate="2012-05-28T14:59:29.067" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1655" PostId="1023" Score="0" Text="ok thanks for this explanation, no problem so. Just a precision, KM is not strictly speaking an art. You advance an interesting information in your reply about the belt. Do you have any reference for it ?" CreationDate="2012-05-28T15:14:58.503" UserId="412" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1656" PostId="1023" Score="0" Text="@BillyTheWind http://www.israelikrav.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=46&amp;Itemid=13, see the &quot;belt or ranking system&quot; question. Other KM orgs may do things differently." CreationDate="2012-05-28T15:21:16.403" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1657" PostId="1018" Score="0" Text="I agree that not that not look the best punch for make a knockout but it look like the more easy punch, especially if you have long arm. Also you may want to not get to close to your opponent for some reason." CreationDate="2012-05-28T15:35:28.103" UserId="412" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1658" PostId="1012" Score="0" Text="Why -1 ? Can you be brave enough for explain it please ?" CreationDate="2012-05-28T16:58:19.840" UserId="412" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1659" PostId="1018" Score="0" Text="The fist is made of lots of small bones. The head is made of a few very big, very strong bones. Hitting someone's head is a good way to break your wrist. It is _not_ recommended. If you don't want to get close to someone, use the legs." CreationDate="2012-05-28T17:55:45.447" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1660" PostId="1018" Score="0" Text="You can do a palm hell punch for avoid breaking your finger. For the leg depend of your ability, you need to be very good for hit the head or you will finish on the ground. Well depend of what you are practicing ." CreationDate="2012-05-28T18:05:26.357" UserId="412" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1661" PostId="1018" Score="0" Text="We're off the topic of your question now." CreationDate="2012-05-28T18:17:31.863" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1662" PostId="1010" Score="3" Text="IMO &quot;uprooting&quot; doesn't mean just &quot;lifting&quot; (i.e., under CoG) it means breaking the connection to root; this can come from twisting, pushing to the triangle, etc. Your own phrase &quot;controlling the CoG&quot; hints at precisely that--it has more to do with control of CoG than getting under it." CreationDate="2012-05-28T21:33:52.383" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1663" PostId="1010" Score="0" Text="@DaveNewton Please, feel free to create your own answer  :) I contend that if you don't &quot;go under&quot; the CoG, then you're struggling for control. From that point of view, your comment fits precisely with my answer." CreationDate="2012-05-28T22:37:49.577" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1664" PostId="1010" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke No struggle, just mechanics." CreationDate="2012-05-28T22:45:12.517" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1665" PostId="1010" Score="1" Text="@DaveNewton I need you to explain your point further. Please create your own answer!" CreationDate="2012-05-28T23:26:12.137" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1667" PostId="1014" Score="0" Text="By &quot;lever effect&quot; I was referring to the fact that you could envision the skull as a sort of lever, with the braincase on one end, the chin on the other, and the place where the spine attaches to the skull as the fulcrum. It's easier to get movement from striking the chin as opposed to the top of the skull (and a little less prone to injuries on the part of the striker). Of course it depends on the position of the head and angle of the strike, too. If someone's chin is tucked in, it'd be much less effective than if they stuck it out." CreationDate="2012-05-29T20:33:39.633" UserId="334" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1668" PostId="422" Score="0" Text="I don't think this answer is of any use for double stick. The question was how to coordinate both hands at once, which is best answered by Trevoke." CreationDate="2012-05-30T06:15:26.193" UserId="93" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1669" PostId="898" Score="1" Text="Paintball ....?" CreationDate="2012-05-30T06:19:45.267" UserId="93" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1670" PostId="424" Score="1" Text="Good answer, but perhaps you should add *how* to think of it as one stick: just realize that when one stick hits, the other goes backward, and then focus on this &quot;scissor&quot; move. It is much easier to focus on this than to think about each hand separately. Helped me in the &quot;heaven and earth&quot; drill." CreationDate="2012-05-30T08:45:16.007" UserId="93" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1671" PostId="953" Score="1" Text="@DaveLiepmann I think it's more likely (a) an objection to the word &quot;should&quot;, and (b) there's no reasonable way to answer the question because it depends on an arbitrary number of factors." CreationDate="2012-05-30T13:51:02.967" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1672" PostId="888" Score="1" Text="There's an entire African-styled form called &quot;shackled hands&quot; that's essentially for applications while handcuffed. You could also distract an opponent by throwing your severed hand at them." CreationDate="2012-05-30T13:57:09.607" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1673" PostId="1012" Score="0" Text="@BillyTheWind I didn't downvote, but I imagine because (a) lack of specificity, (b) trivially answerable by talking to someone involved in whatever KM association you're asking about, and (c) ultimately it's obvious--&quot;get good, get certified&quot;." CreationDate="2012-05-30T14:01:13.423" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1675" PostId="953" Score="1" Text="@DaveLiepmann (a) Equally poor, (b) not really--we're *not* able to answer those types of questions in a general way, if we're being honest. It depends on the student, the teacher, the school, the classes, the time, the focus, etc." CreationDate="2012-05-30T14:02:52.033" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1677" PostId="1012" Score="0" Text="@DaveNewton thank you for your comment. For a: do you said there is a lack of specificity because I didn't specified any country ? Well I was expected they may have some common directive from the country of origin. But I agree about this so I add US to the question. For b: I'm not agree about this. Yes I can ask to my instructor but I would like a general objective reply. For c: I'm not agree with this objection because what is asked here is some precision." CreationDate="2012-05-30T15:59:38.627" UserId="412" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1678" PostId="1012" Score="0" Text="@BillyTheWind (a) No, country has little to do with it, ranking and instructorship has to do with the association. (b) There is only association-specific replies, and to get that, you should be talking to the association, because *they're the ones that confer instructorship*--this should be obvious. (c) That *is* the &quot;general, objective&quot; reply, because how to go about doing that depends on the association." CreationDate="2012-05-30T16:21:43.857" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1679" PostId="1012" Score="0" Text="@DaveNewton please can you explaine what do you mean by association ? Who/What is it ?" CreationDate="2012-05-30T16:36:27.987" UserId="412" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1680" PostId="1012" Score="1" Text="@BillyTheWind It's the &quot;governing body&quot; of a KM school; essentially all KM schools are part of a KM association. (Many, many other martial arts schools are as well.) The association determines how one becomes an instructor that represents that association. Only each association can give you specifics on how to become an instructor for that association." CreationDate="2012-05-30T16:47:08.943" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1681" PostId="1033" Score="1" Text="I think I understand your point, but do you feel the same for already learned techniques? For example use videos to look back if you remember a technique properly so you can  prepare yourself for an exam?" CreationDate="2012-05-31T07:24:28.263" UserId="314" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1682" PostId="1012" Score="0" Text="@DaveNewton for come back on the point abc. About a) it's depend of the country, some country have more legislation on harmonization about sportive activity. b) You said obvious. Well, obvious if your are use to  martial art . Some activity have very specific and harmonized chart for the requirement needed to be instructor. c) I didn't expected that there is so many different association with different requirement. That not make sens for me that every association can give a different answer since it's the same activity." CreationDate="2012-05-31T07:32:16.613" UserId="412" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1683" PostId="1023" Score="0" Text="Just a precision about what you write before, you let let think that I ask &quot;can I be an instructor in 3 year&quot;. As an example, I wrote &quot;Can you be an instructor in 3 years ?&quot;. Maybe I'm not interested at all by be an instructor, I'm just curious about the formation of the Krav Maga instructor ..." CreationDate="2012-05-31T07:46:29.540" UserId="412" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1684" PostId="1012" Score="2" Text="@BillyTheWind Whether or not you think it makes sense doesn't matter to the associations: each determines how they confer rank and status. They may do it the same, they may do it different, but they're the ones who make the rules they follow, and they're the ones best equipped to explain those rules to you." CreationDate="2012-05-31T09:16:35.330" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1685" PostId="1012" Score="3" Text="@BillyTheWind Also, any given style is likely to have only one or possibly a few associations. They exist so there *is* a common, unified source of answers to questions like this. Otherwise anybody could go around calling themselves a teacher of style XYX. You may not *like* that this is how things have gone, but in general, it is. There are also plenty of unaffiliated schools (my gong fu school, for example) but a ranking or belt conferred by an unaffiliated school will carry little weight outside of that school." CreationDate="2012-05-31T10:37:53.233" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1686" PostId="1033" Score="1" Text="@smev I've never heard of that approach being used in martial arts. Either you know the technique in your bones or you're faking it for the test. Go ahead and try it, but I wouldn't say it's very productive beyond the test." CreationDate="2012-05-31T12:21:28.277" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1687" PostId="1030" Score="0" Text="*Aikido* can be translated as the way of harmony therefore looking outside your school is **bad** and **wrong** and should **never** be done..." CreationDate="2012-05-31T13:49:37.900" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1688" PostId="1035" Score="0" Text="What did you do, how does it look, how does it feel, when did it happen?" CreationDate="2012-05-31T14:09:12.257" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1689" PostId="1030" Score="3" Text="I don't get it. How do you go from &quot;the way of harmony&quot; to &quot;looking outside of your school is bad&quot;? Can't I be harmonious with everybody including people outside of my school?" CreationDate="2012-05-31T14:12:47.737" UserId="314" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1690" PostId="1035" Score="1" Text="The question is more aimed at the regular bruise. The sore leg you get after recieving a hard low kick (no broken leg or joint). It's actually such injury that doesn't really needs the attend of a doctor but still sore and pretty stiff.&#xA;&#xA;I tend to get them a lot with Pencak Silat and Kickboxing." CreationDate="2012-05-31T14:18:46.573" UserId="422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1691" PostId="1033" Score="0" Text="When my teacher mentions the Japanse name of a technique during class I still have to think about what it means and translate it to a set of movements in my head. Also, sometimes I have to think about how to begin a specific technique. But once I start it the rest usually does follow automatically. I was thinking to use youtube videos for exam preparation so I can try to &quot;remember&quot; the correct technique and how to start it more quickly." CreationDate="2012-05-31T14:27:29.260" UserId="314" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1692" PostId="1033" Score="0" Text="@smev Maybe it'll work, I've never tried that. I think more class time would be more productive. If you've been training less than a year, I wouldn't fret about not yet knowing the names instinctively." CreationDate="2012-05-31T14:31:49.747" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1693" PostId="1035" Score="1" Text="I think icing first, which IMO is more for reducing blood flow hence swelling (which can cause additional damage), then heating later (24-48 hrs) is about the best you can do. The more it's used the more blood circulates--this could help healing, but also prolong bruising--depends. I try to keep things moving, though." CreationDate="2012-05-31T15:02:15.537" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1694" PostId="1030" Score="2" Text="I decided not to make this an answer, but as to style: In the beginning you learn the style of your instructor, and it is important to have consistency while you learn all the basic moves. After a while you will start to figure out variations that work better for you. When this starts to happen it is good to reach out and go to seminars or other places to get exposed to different styles. Eventually, the Aikido that works for you will become your style. The style your instructor teaches is likely the style that works for him." CreationDate="2012-05-31T19:33:11.553" UserId="9" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1695" PostId="1032" Score="0" Text="++ Though I do recommend studying different styles at once. Where they clash... is probably where you've found an art or an instructor to be avoided. We did lots of extra stuff in my TKD dojang including aikido, JKD, and arnis and it only helped and prevented the &quot;my art's better than yours&quot; mentality from taking root." CreationDate="2012-05-31T21:17:24.243" UserId="489" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1696" PostId="1032" Score="1" Text="@Ashley Those are different *arts*, not different *styles of the same art*. Perhaps I could have been more clear. IMO mixing closely-related styles can cause issues. I'm a strong proponent of studying different arts; my current primary school teaches JKD, silat, kali/escrima, grappling, boxing, etc." CreationDate="2012-05-31T21:19:09.340" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1697" PostId="1039" Score="1" Text="-1 This does not answer the question, even under MA's broad criteria. Conflict resolution is an entire field that cannot be reduced to &quot;lose your ego&quot;. That, plus the lack of sources or references, makes this an unproductive answer." CreationDate="2012-06-01T02:54:27.883" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1698" PostId="1039" Score="1" Text="@DaveLiepmann Let's agree to disagree. From past experience, I believe I shall not be able to explain my argument to you. Should you be open to a conversation, it shall be my pleasure." CreationDate="2012-06-01T03:32:21.837" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1699" PostId="1030" Score="0" Text="@smev &amp; everyone who does not get my comment should check [this definition](http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sarcasm)..." CreationDate="2012-06-01T06:40:05.230" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1700" PostId="1040" Score="1" Text="I would like to read some theory in order to get some things to think about. To know what questions to ask myself and answer now, not at a moment that something dangerous is happening." CreationDate="2012-06-01T07:48:57.967" UserId="485" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1701" PostId="1040" Score="0" Text="Do you happen to know of any training courses for things like this?" CreationDate="2012-06-01T11:38:41.427" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1702" PostId="1039" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Would you be kind enough to go check http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/211/when-is-it-appropriate-to-flag-an-answer-leave-a-comment and let us know your thoughts?" CreationDate="2012-06-01T14:18:29.227" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1706" PostId="587" Score="0" Text="Does this mean that san shou, karate, savate and muay Thai are all &quot;centered around kicks&quot;? I'd agree for muay Thai, but the others...?" CreationDate="2012-06-01T18:23:13.617" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1707" PostId="587" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Are you saying that san shou, (all the styles of) karate, savate and muay thai, in their martial (i.e. fight to disable/maim/kill) context, **truly** use kicks above the knee? If so, then by the definition I put forth, I would find myself forced to agree." CreationDate="2012-06-01T23:43:00.957" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1708" PostId="587" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke Unless we're going to play &quot;No True Scotsmen&quot;, yes. Those styles (or styles within umbrella terms) use kicks above the knee for fighting." CreationDate="2012-06-01T23:45:22.257" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1709" PostId="587" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann As the center of their strategy for fighting?" CreationDate="2012-06-02T00:39:42.557" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1710" PostId="587" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I said &quot;truly&quot;, not as in &quot;they actually use kicks&quot; but as in &quot;this is their favorite, preferred method and their actual fighting style is centered around the usage of kicks, therefore kicks have to be varied in speed, power, angle, and sequence&quot;. I honestly don't think the styles you mentioned fit that description, but I am not an expert in all of them. You seem to be much more knowledgeable than I am, therefore I apologize if the statement is incorrect, and please instruct me in how to correct it." CreationDate="2012-06-02T00:49:12.530" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1711" PostId="1039" Score="0" Text="You only need that one taste. Even a memory of a memory  is often enough :-D" CreationDate="2012-06-02T02:29:38.373" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1712" PostId="422" Score="0" Text="@tomas everyone reaches understanding from a different way" CreationDate="2012-06-02T02:31:16.197" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1713" PostId="1046" Score="2" Text="Someone once said on Bullshido that Chinese martial art is a bunch of sucker punches. That's high praise." CreationDate="2012-06-02T02:48:36.053" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1714" PostId="1010" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I'm game. See my answer." CreationDate="2012-06-02T02:49:59.983" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1715" PostId="1046" Score="1" Text="The reason this will &quot;do&quot; for now: if you create these rigid boxes in your mind to understand the art of strategy, those become structure easily exploitable by someone who wants to take advantage." CreationDate="2012-06-02T02:51:59.183" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1716" PostId="1010" Score="0" Text="I think @DaveNewton has a point...I repeatedly come across taiji techniques that involve controlling the opponent's CoG without getting under it. Twists and pull-downs come to mind." CreationDate="2012-06-02T04:02:03.077" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1717" PostId="422" Score="1" Text="You are right. Anyway, I read your answer again and it is actually very good. I only commented the coordination part in my previous comment." CreationDate="2012-06-02T10:31:40.390" UserId="93" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1718" PostId="1041" Score="0" Text="Instead of jogging I do swimming and yes it's good to keep it moving.&#xA;&#xA;Does icing really help on the second day?" CreationDate="2012-06-04T06:12:16.143" UserId="422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1720" PostId="587" Score="1" Text="Except for taekwondo. I used to spar with a friend of mine who achieved a black belt in taekwondo. He rarely kicked *below* the knee." CreationDate="2012-06-04T20:35:19.917" UserId="334" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1721" PostId="587" Score="0" Text="Yep. TKD fits my definition of a style that truly uses kicks above the knees. It actually uses, what, about 70% kicks, in theory? With most practitioners using really about 90% kicks?" CreationDate="2012-06-04T21:19:28.487" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1722" PostId="1050" Score="0" Text="Do you have to sign off on them meeting their requirement?" CreationDate="2012-06-04T21:54:54.307" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1723" PostId="1050" Score="0" Text="@stslavik They receive a letter grade for the class. It is participation based, and they have to demonstrate a few basic things at the end of the semester." CreationDate="2012-06-05T00:43:23.627" UserId="9" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1724" PostId="1051" Score="0" Text="The group is 18+ adults in community college. Most of them are 18 or 19." CreationDate="2012-06-05T01:15:20.683" UserId="9" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1725" PostId="1053" Score="1" Text="Awesome! Could you give some detail on how its applied? Do you have maybe an example? (An image or video would be super-swell.)" CreationDate="2012-06-05T02:55:21.397" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1727" PostId="136" Score="0" Text="What's a &quot;pa day&quot;?" CreationDate="2012-06-05T03:34:35.277" UserId="443" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1728" PostId="1051" Score="0" Text="And is it a mixed group (gender)?" CreationDate="2012-06-05T08:12:53.467" UserId="422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1729" PostId="636" Score="0" Text="@tacone easier for who?" CreationDate="2012-06-05T11:11:41.463" UserId="93" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1731" PostId="1051" Score="0" Text="Try to find out their interests. Sometimes you have a group who likes to spar, just do some exercise or train towards a demo.&#xA;&#xA;An idea: you can actually ask them or take a few who actually are interested in the sport and discuss with them if they have some ideas.&#xA;&#xA;Maybe they would like a creative demo, where they can all have input on. Put elements like music, story line, dance and maybe even cabaret into it. Let them help create it and let them know it should contain some techniques because you are trying to make the lesson fun, so everyone wants to train it.&#xA;&#xA;Just some ideas to think on :)" CreationDate="2012-06-05T12:14:19.213" UserId="422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1732" PostId="1057" Score="0" Text="A sticker is a good idea, but possibly tantamount to the same thing as the marker - I don't want the feel of the sticker while I'm handling the staff, so I'd have to put it on one end of the staff or the other. I'll edit my question to say that I do want my staff to be easily recognizable (read - without manipulating it to find out who the owner is) :)" CreationDate="2012-06-05T14:02:02.713" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1734" PostId="1059" Score="1" Text="Can you describe your source? Some research, or personal experience, or your imagination?" CreationDate="2012-06-05T14:45:26.577" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1735" PostId="1056" Score="1" Text="Perhaps this is a better question to ask on the Armor Archive." CreationDate="2012-06-05T14:46:31.597" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1736" PostId="1059" Score="1" Text="@Ho-ShengHsiao Personal experience with sticks long and short used in karate for kata, kihon, and kumite. I experienced the issue I spoke of." CreationDate="2012-06-05T15:47:42.433" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1737" PostId="1057" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke: If you don't like the feel of a sticker under your hands, engraving will not be any better. I took a Dremel to a red oak hanbo I had: you lose the slide that the smooth wood has in your hands." CreationDate="2012-06-05T15:51:33.020" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1738" PostId="1056" Score="0" Text="Are you sure it's pine? Generally you don't use soft woods in the construction of *bo*, though Japanese White Pine are extremely popular in *bonsai*. More popular are white oak for their density and compressive strength." CreationDate="2012-06-05T15:54:36.243" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1740" PostId="1001" Score="0" Text="Well, you can use a hook to pull down or shake an opponent before striking or pushing with your fist for one." CreationDate="2012-06-05T17:48:08.377" UserId="424" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1741" PostId="1057" Score="0" Text="@stslavik The sticker feels artificial, while engravings don't have that feeling. I've handled hanbos with engravings and I have not had the issue of losing the smooth slide." CreationDate="2012-06-05T17:54:55.090" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1742" PostId="1059" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I'm aware that what I'm about to ask is next to impossible, but I have to ask anyway: do you have any idea (very roughly) of the proportion of the depth of the etching to the width/diameter of the wood, as well as length of the stick? If not -- approximately how deep were the cuttings/etchings, in your experience?" CreationDate="2012-06-05T17:57:59.953" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1743" PostId="1056" Score="0" Text="Hmm, since everyone is doubting the wood, I'll have to double-check.. Please stay posted; I apologize for any mistake and thank everyone for the help." CreationDate="2012-06-05T17:59:59.687" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1744" PostId="1056" Score="0" Text="@Ho-ShengHsiao it might. No one seems to be complaining of this question not being related to martial arts (yet) though, so I'll only go over there if no one here can give an answer." CreationDate="2012-06-05T18:02:27.887" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1746" PostId="1059" Score="1" Text="@Trevoke The etchings that I dealt with were deep. Very shallow etching, like in metalwork, might not be a problem. Again, if we're talking about sticks for hitting, it's a safety issue that I would recommend against." CreationDate="2012-06-05T18:11:51.200" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1747" PostId="661" Score="0" Text="*&quot;Tell them you're going to reach for your dupe wallet&quot;* Er...I presume you meant &quot;tell them your getting your wallet and reach for the duplicate&quot;. Good advice." CreationDate="2012-06-05T18:21:54.633" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1748" PostId="661" Score="0" Text="@dmckee Thanks for catching that. I apologize for the mistake." CreationDate="2012-06-05T18:25:36.967" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1749" PostId="1059" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke I'd definitely ask the Armor Archive folks about structural integrity (and wood grain, etc). A. Dill is a good person to ask, and he has contacts elsewhere. You might be able to protect the grain from splintering by using resin to fill in the engraving." CreationDate="2012-06-05T18:48:06.620" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1750" PostId="1059" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Would you mind adding that bit to your answer. I find personal experience useful, however your phrasing makes it sound as if you are pulling from authoritative sources." CreationDate="2012-06-05T18:50:01.660" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1751" PostId="1059" Score="0" Text="@Ho-ShengHsiao Do you really think I need an authoritative source for the fact that cutting a stick makes it more prone to splitting/splintering? The fact that etchings caused several issues in sticks that I and my dojo-mates used isn't sufficient?" CreationDate="2012-06-05T18:51:57.950" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1752" PostId="1056" Score="2" Text="@Trevoke It's not that this question is inappropriate for this forum; it's that you'll get much better answers elsewhere." CreationDate="2012-06-05T18:53:07.073" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1753" PostId="1059" Score="0" Text="@Ho-ShengHsiao Also, note the first clause of my second paragraph." CreationDate="2012-06-05T18:53:12.567" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1754" PostId="636" Score="0" Text="easier for both." CreationDate="2012-06-05T18:53:15.377" UserId="10" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1755" PostId="1059" Score="1" Text="@DaveLiepmann Yes. You're confusing correlation with causality. Framing it as, &quot;In my personal experience having used my stick with lots of force many times, these etchings creates a lot of problems.&quot; That gives your words more credibility than the assumed credibility in your present words." CreationDate="2012-06-05T18:56:07.613" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1756" PostId="1059" Score="0" Text="@Ho-ShengHsiao That's bonkers. The sticks with etching split faster, again and again. Identical sticks without etching consistently lasted longer with less or no splitting. I don't need a double-blind study on this one." CreationDate="2012-06-05T19:00:35.670" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1757" PostId="1057" Score="0" Text="@slugster apologies for the mistake, the tree is waxwood, not pine." CreationDate="2012-06-05T19:50:41.327" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1758" PostId="1056" Score="0" Text="@stslavik it's white waxwood. My apologies." CreationDate="2012-06-05T19:51:37.813" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1759" PostId="1057" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke - I made a mistake too, my bo is white *oak*, not pine. Duh. I've made the correction. The sticker idea still stands though." CreationDate="2012-06-05T19:56:16.250" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1760" PostId="1071" Score="0" Text="Oh man, wood burning tools? That's a fantastic idea. Which tools? I know nothing about the topic." CreationDate="2012-06-05T23:46:28.897" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1761" PostId="1071" Score="1" Text="@Trevoke My latest set is just a cheap beginner's kit; any local hobby shop, chain or not, should have something for maybe $10-20 and have enough tip shapes to get you started. It worked great for me, anyway :)" CreationDate="2012-06-06T00:03:10.513" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1763" PostId="1071" Score="0" Text="I'd love to mark this as the answer, because I think I might well do that, but ... It's not the question I asked :p" CreationDate="2012-06-06T00:04:48.560" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1764" PostId="1071" Score="1" Text="@Trevoke I'll survive either way ;) Accepting an answer means it was the best answer for you--and sometimes we don't know precisely what we're asking until we start exploring answers outside of our knowledge base. This happens on stackoverflow all the time. My personal view is that all the upvotes and accepts mean less than nudging someone in a direction they might not have gone otherwise :)" CreationDate="2012-06-06T00:16:14.367" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1765" PostId="1053" Score="0" Text="Hi Dave - [this is the best example I could find](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBZlyPNrd1s) at about 33 secs in. The initial body and hand positioning is reasonably close to tournament and you can see the hip turn whilst sliding the weight backwards and controlling the opponents arm to throw them to the side. With fixed feet push hands, all you need to do is uproot and this move is often used very quickly from the start of the point." CreationDate="2012-06-06T00:36:39.853" UserId="307" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1766" PostId="1053" Score="0" Text="A counter to it is to relax the arm being pulled, initially going with the movement (in the example above the hips would be rotating around to the left) but then rotate the hips to the right, slapping with the pulled hand followed up by a push with the left hand. Or just relax right out of the initial hold and help your opponent continue his movement backwards." CreationDate="2012-06-06T00:37:26.653" UserId="307" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1768" PostId="1053" Score="0" Text="Heh also used as the 1st move in [this demonstration](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=966xSjpEjlI&amp;list=UU-b94y0gIsOUkM43LEy0iIg&amp;index=1&amp;feature=plcp) at 45 seconds." CreationDate="2012-06-06T00:49:03.097" UserId="307" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1770" PostId="1041" Score="0" Text="Swimming is likely better than jogging, less impact. Also with icing, be careful not to leave the ice pack on too long (going numb is not good =)" CreationDate="2012-06-06T01:03:07.943" UserId="398" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1775" PostId="1060" Score="0" Text="This is a more traditional approach, and it has its merits. But I find that swallowing my pride a little bit and employing a few tricks can get even the disengaged students involved most of the time. See my answer below for more details. Definitely agree with &quot;Show them respect, be friendly, but don't be a friend&quot; though!" CreationDate="2012-06-06T02:34:47.407" UserId="398" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1778" PostId="1067" Score="0" Text="I agree that the wrist are the most vulnerable. My knuckles are hardened enough due training on concrete (I know it doesn't sound nice). I actually want to protect my wrist because we train a lot with gloves on gloves and sometimes they just hit your wrist instead of your hand. Do you have a vid of the technique you use?" CreationDate="2012-06-06T07:54:07.850" UserId="422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1779" PostId="1073" Score="0" Text="Can I advice you not to use low blocks against kicks ;)? I think you can hurt your hand to easilly with it and you open your defence with it. Thanks for the answer though!" CreationDate="2012-06-06T10:56:38.573" UserId="422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1780" PostId="1060" Score="0" Text="I think they will be motivated more if you make it fun. The ballet example: if I really had to pass, I would do just enough. Ofcourse, the onces that don't contribute shouldn't pass." CreationDate="2012-06-06T11:00:40.193" UserId="422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1782" PostId="1073" Score="1" Text="No worries =) As to the low block, it's a TKD low block, so it was &quot;proper&quot;, but yea... `metacarpal &lt; tibia`! BUT my sparing partner did say &quot;ouch, that was a heck of an elbow&quot;, so I took that as a big compliment!" CreationDate="2012-06-06T11:13:48.607" UserId="398" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1783" PostId="1046" Score="1" Text="Great answer. I specially liked the parallel between physical and mental structures." CreationDate="2012-06-06T11:34:55.007" UserId="424" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1784" PostId="1079" Score="2" Text="This was a very good article. I particularly liked &quot;_If you find yourself in a situation where a predator is trying to control you, the time for listening to instructions and attempting to remain calm has passed. [...] You have no alternative but to explode into action, whatever the risk. Recognizing when this line has been crossed, and committing to escape at any cost, is more important than mastering physical techniques._&quot;" CreationDate="2012-06-06T12:29:23.640" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1786" PostId="1062" Score="1" Text="Excellent answer. This description of the relationship between the two practices, and the progression from general taiji practice to sanshou, is exactly what I was looking for." CreationDate="2012-06-06T13:27:33.700" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1787" PostId="1067" Score="0" Text="I tried a bunch of different ways, and eventually just came up with my own way.  All I do is rotate between wrapping the wrist, wrapping the thumb, and doing an x on the hand.  Adjust this pattern so that you finish with 1 or 2 final wraps on the wrist.  Pause to make a tight fist every few wraps to make sure you aren't cutting circulation.  People with long, thin fingers probably would want more knuckle protection than this, but it suits me just fine." CreationDate="2012-06-06T14:46:38.327" UserId="504" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1788" PostId="1088" Score="0" Text="Do you use it for anything but kata?" CreationDate="2012-06-06T19:11:33.133" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1789" PostId="1088" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Yes. The 10 kumi jo requires contact with other jo. As well as the 13 count Jo kata with partner. We do a lot of Jo partner practice, which is why it needs to be sturdy." CreationDate="2012-06-06T19:26:25.330" UserId="9" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1806" PostId="1091" Score="0" Text="Purple Heart will do custom wasters and bokken out of some interesting materials." CreationDate="2012-06-07T00:06:43.317" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1808" PostId="1086" Score="0" Text="Why do you recommend that?" CreationDate="2012-06-07T02:58:13.227" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1811" PostId="1053" Score="0" Text="Good to see the extra information. Next time, consider editing your post and adding that into your answer." CreationDate="2012-06-07T03:38:04.860" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1812" PostId="1086" Score="0" Text="Looking is a training per se, in Aikido. (Tada Hiroshi used to teach that, at least)" CreationDate="2012-06-07T06:01:51.687" UserId="10" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1813" PostId="1053" Score="0" Text="Good point, will do next time" CreationDate="2012-06-07T08:31:56.787" UserId="307" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1814" PostId="136" Score="0" Text="a day off school :)" CreationDate="2012-06-07T13:49:27.423" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1816" PostId="1097" Score="2" Text="&quot;So you're saying there's a chance.&quot;" CreationDate="2012-06-07T17:14:40.430" UserId="9" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1820" PostId="1063" Score="0" Text="I've never experienced wood worms in weapons. Perhaps this is something particular to where you live? Some insects might be more previlant in some areas than others. Given that this isn't a concern where I live (Australia), I prefer *not* to oil practice weapons." CreationDate="2012-06-08T09:29:06.970" UserId="443" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1821" PostId="1063" Score="0" Text="You usually won't experience it because the wood is treated (with boiled linseed oil – it's a common treatment in commercially available tools). However, when you're removing the top layer by engraving into the weapon, if you don't treat it, you're exposing it to the risk." CreationDate="2012-06-08T15:18:58.757" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1822" PostId="1060" Score="0" Text="I'm basing my answer on social cohesion theory, and, as with most of my answers, my methods tend toward the subversive. I believe in forcing a favorable outcome through manipulation (I was bullied a lot as a kid), and I enjoy pushing people's buttons. Take it for what it's worth ;)" CreationDate="2012-06-08T15:23:11.823" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1823" PostId="1090" Score="1" Text="Carbon fibre would be incredibly light and it doesn't really handle strikes perpendicular to its surface. Carbon fibre racing bikes often shatter in accidents, and it also has the issue that it can be hard to spot cracks in it." CreationDate="2012-06-09T03:42:17.117" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1824" PostId="1090" Score="0" Text="@slugster That's why I said it would be too light and you'd want to use a core." CreationDate="2012-06-09T03:49:07.093" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1826" PostId="1060" Score="0" Text="I would agree with you, but not entirely for the same reason though. I'd just say not to waist your energy on the ones who are not willing to give you back anything. Worrying about those who are not willing to learn will simply burn you out in the long run." CreationDate="2012-06-09T07:59:54.533" UserId="424" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1827" PostId="1090" Score="0" Text="not disputing your answer, just reinforcing part of it. I think carbon fibre even with a core would be no use." CreationDate="2012-06-09T08:23:26.457" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1829" PostId="1090" Score="0" Text="@slugster Gotcha. Yeah, I'm not sure-I've seen CF take some crazy impact abuse, but it's so dependent on how it's laid up, the epoxy, etc. Even if it *did* work, way easier (and cheaper!) to use something like PP anyway." CreationDate="2012-06-09T13:14:01.503" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1840" PostId="1104" Score="2" Text="I've never heard that said about goju ryu." CreationDate="2012-06-10T04:59:21.227" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1841" PostId="1104" Score="3" Text="This is markedly different from the history documented in Wikipedia: [Goju Ryu](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goju_Ryu). You will find a lot of similarities between Shotokan and the hard parts of Goju - they effectively have the same roots but Shotokan was adapted to better suit large scale teaching on mainland Japan." CreationDate="2012-06-10T05:11:06.823" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1842" PostId="1104" Score="1" Text="I don't trust wikipedia on this Because my master is from one of best karate universities in Japan, and he is a very known student of the Grand master.. And my question is about the original history, why goju is born.  Apart from that even though these 2 styles are some what same, there main deference is 50-50. Which means goju player only give the full power to arms/legs only when the opponent is about to get hit. But shotokan player is always with 100% power, which make them tired easier compared to goju." CreationDate="2012-06-10T05:17:09.660" UserId="519" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1843" PostId="1104" Score="0" Text="to make this more sense, I changed the question title :)" CreationDate="2012-06-10T05:19:13.807" UserId="519" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1844" PostId="1104" Score="2" Text="@Sepala You are correct that you should never absolutely believe Wikipedia, but there are a whole lot of citations for that article which does make it more accurate. It also roughly tallies with what I was told before the WWW or Wikipedia were big, so it is a fairly standardised history. Is it possible your master has an incorrect interpretation, or are you suggesting there is a &quot;secret&quot; history? *&quot;Ideal for use on boats&quot;* is quite different to *&quot;invented for use on boats&quot;*." CreationDate="2012-06-10T05:37:49.800" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1845" PostId="1104" Score="0" Text="ya, invented to use on places with small space, ideal for boats. Built specially for Japan Navy. Thats what I really wanted to say" CreationDate="2012-06-10T05:42:02.743" UserId="519" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1846" PostId="1104" Score="2" Text="I've definitely never heard that. That some of its early history includes a Crane-style gong fu would seem in direct contradiction, too. There are some Chinese arts that *were* specifically optimized for close-quarters combat, but I'm not aware of anything similar on the Japanese side. (This in *no* way means there haven't been, though.)" CreationDate="2012-06-10T16:26:52.510" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1847" PostId="1106" Score="2" Text="+1 This is what I did until I got laser eye surgery." CreationDate="2012-06-10T19:24:35.080" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1848" PostId="1106" Score="2" Text="Me too. I find that even with very poor eyesight I can see gross body movements just fine without my glasses or contacts, but if your opponent has tells in his or her facial expressions you may miss them without corrective lenses. I try to train both ways (with and without lenses) to maximize my learning but also train for the possible situation of having to fight without lenses." CreationDate="2012-06-10T19:36:34.493" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1849" PostId="1106" Score="1" Text="@dmckee Good points. My training is almost completely non-sport, though--hopefully nothing will last long enough for me to discover if the other guy has tells ;)" CreationDate="2012-06-10T19:50:58.917" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1850" PostId="1106" Score="2" Text="I'm going to second the recommendation for sports goggles (I have advanced astigmatism with differing prescriptions for each eye).  My wife and I both use them for sparring and I swear by them - that first time you nearly put someone through a wall because of bad depth perception will typically convince everyone that a prescription strength solution is in order :)" CreationDate="2012-06-10T21:17:22.023" UserId="338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1851" PostId="1104" Score="0" Text="@DaveNewton I believe Tensho is an adaptation from a Crane-style gong fu. What Sepala said is just -this- side from unbelievable, which is making me reevaluate what I thought I knew. If I do not answer this question, I look forward to reading the answer." CreationDate="2012-06-11T03:06:31.197" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1852" PostId="113" Score="0" Text="The CQC 'instructor' is a hypocrite. And an amateur who doesn't know what he's talking about. He has instruction videos about Wing Chun, yet also has a video 'never punch in a street fight' where the title is meant literally. Wing Chun FOCUSSES on punching mainly." CreationDate="2012-06-11T11:04:22.197" UserId="478" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1853" PostId="116" Score="1" Text="A good tip for whenever you want more info about a picture: Drag it in Google Images. A yellow box will appear upon dragging it over the window, then Google can search the web for that exact picture ;)" CreationDate="2012-06-11T11:33:37.137" UserId="478" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1854" PostId="592" Score="0" Text="please switch to rubber or wooden knives! Sooner or later it *will* accidentally come towards someone's throat. Brrrr" CreationDate="2012-06-11T11:54:50.073" UserId="478" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1855" PostId="621" Score="1" Text="There are no age limits, but it is better to start from younger age" CreationDate="2012-06-11T12:03:30.963" UserId="120" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1857" PostId="1109" Score="2" Text="-1 I want to knock someone out if I'm competing in boxing, kickboxing or MMA, or if I'm defending myself. Both scenarios are totally ethical." CreationDate="2012-06-11T13:29:09.950" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1858" PostId="1109" Score="0" Text="I just explained why it's harmful, and you still want to do it with any opponent in a match??! Goddam." CreationDate="2012-06-11T13:51:26.977" UserId="478" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1859" PostId="1109" Score="0" Text="Maybe [this answer](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/999/347) will alleviate some of your fears. Repeated KOs over years is no bueno, and there are freak accidents, but a knockout or two is generally not enormously harmful." CreationDate="2012-06-11T13:55:12.153" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1860" PostId="1109" Score="0" Text="Of course it won't immediately kill or seriously injure you, no. But where many ko's can cause severe damage, one causes a little damage still. You may not immediately be able to tell the difference but it's not good. I wouln't want to be any bit responisble for that..." CreationDate="2012-06-11T13:58:35.423" UserId="478" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1861" PostId="1109" Score="2" Text="My answer that I linked to addresses that. But I think it's ethical, particularly in a scenario where A) you and your opponent are healthy and have agreed to those terms, or B) your assailant is trying to do physical harm, perhaps severe, to you." CreationDate="2012-06-11T14:04:05.510" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1862" PostId="1109" Score="0" Text="Yeah okay I can live with that :P" CreationDate="2012-06-11T14:05:11.500" UserId="478" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1863" PostId="590" Score="0" Text="Could you excerpt the contents of the links you referenced, instead of just laying them out? We want the content to remain even if the link dies." CreationDate="2012-06-11T14:25:28.970" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1864" PostId="1111" Score="2" Text="&quot;[T]he earliest reference to &quot;The Dharma&quot; or Bodhidharma as the originator of Shaolin boxing [was] in a widely popular novel, The Travels of Lao Ts'an first published in Illustrated Fiction Magazine between 1904-1907.&quot; Stanley Henning, destroyer of martial arts myths, in [Ignorance, Legend, and Taiijiquan](http://www.nardis.com/~twchan/henning.html)." CreationDate="2012-06-11T15:32:33.220" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1865" PostId="1111" Score="0" Text="Also see this direct reference by Henning to Tang Hao's 1930's-era debunking of the Bodhidharma myth in [On Politically Correct Treatment of Myths in the Chinese Martial arts](http://seinenkai.com/articles/henning/politicallycorrect.pdf)." CreationDate="2012-06-11T15:34:29.907" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1866" PostId="1122" Score="0" Text="Silat, taiji, kali/arnis have essentially identical moves--there's nothing unusual about taking the opponent's head to the &quot;third point of the triangle&quot;, IMO. Unless you're talking about a different irimi nage; do you have a video reference?" CreationDate="2012-06-11T21:50:52.793" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1867" PostId="191" Score="0" Text="This kind of question is hopeless wrapped up in the idea that guys lined up in colored belts and gis are doing something that is different in type from three dirty people in loin cloths (or less) trading techniques in a meadow or on the beach. I just don't see it: the difference is one only of degree." CreationDate="2012-06-11T23:36:02.570" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1868" PostId="1123" Score="1" Text="I'm no master, but I know that I'm beginning to &quot;get&quot; a new system when I suddenly rediscover things I learned a long time ago in a dojo far, far away doing something entirely &quot;different&quot;." CreationDate="2012-06-11T23:39:47.327" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1869" PostId="1123" Score="0" Text="@dmckee Yep, a lot of stuff has a very similar &quot;feel&quot; even if there are differences of various magnitudes. I like those moments :)" CreationDate="2012-06-11T23:47:30.440" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1870" PostId="191" Score="0" Text="no its not :) whatever those in loin cloths practiced, isn't documented, so we can only assume what they did.... I'm interested in what has been documented and people actually still follow, as a system" CreationDate="2012-06-12T01:11:39.040" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1872" PostId="1111" Score="0" Text="When talking about written documents, I of course didn't talk about some magazine but documents *from that time*. Also, the 'destroyer of myths' is just one person's ideas. (I also mentioned what I answered is a legend, not the true story per sé. Most people still hang on to this story.)" CreationDate="2012-06-12T09:36:42.477" UserId="478" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1873" PostId="1111" Score="0" Text="The fact that you called it legend is better than not, but it's important to squash this myth. To your point: Tang Hao, Stanley Henning, and the numerous researchers who double-checked their work were indeed looking at documents from that time. They examined primary sources and did real history." CreationDate="2012-06-12T12:46:37.007" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1878" PostId="327" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke that's the story and I'm sticking with it. Sadly, I have heard non-martial-artist native Chinese speakers use &quot;gong fu&quot; the way Americans use &quot;karate&quot; or &quot;gong fu&quot; to mean &quot;martial arts&quot;. Kids there grow up wanting to be computer programmers these days. Lots of these traditions are disappearing, fast. These days, I hear old school martial artists use simply &quot;fu&quot;, as a code-word for the old meaning of &quot;gong fu&quot;." CreationDate="2012-06-12T20:03:34.017" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1880" PostId="1130" Score="2" Text="+1 for advocating seeing. Also, not every physical altercation is a knock-down drag-out struggle to the death. My glasses have stayed on in minor scuffles with friends that only escalated a little bit." CreationDate="2012-06-12T21:14:41.850" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1881" PostId="1063" Score="0" Text="When I make my own weapons from wood, I don't don't treat them with anything, and have not had any trouble, although &#xA;I did just lose my wooden knife after 10 years with it. But I don't think the wood worms took it ;) I recently bought a &quot;white oak&quot; bokken and when I did do some carving on it, discovered that the &quot;white&quot; was just a white lacqure painted over what looked like common American oak :(" CreationDate="2012-06-13T01:09:02.763" UserId="443" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1886" PostId="1134" Score="5" Text="Well, there is alcohol. ;)" CreationDate="2012-06-13T03:30:18.843" UserId="334" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1894" PostId="1135" Score="0" Text="Anecdotal enough. I had heard something like that before, though it was only about turning the water cold at the end of the shower. I'll have to play with this one :)" CreationDate="2012-06-13T09:40:18.647" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1895" PostId="1135" Score="1" Text="For those who know [Eddie Izzard, he was doing an ice bath every day to avoid soreness.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Izzard#Marathons) Also, there are plenty of medicinal data to support this.  It is not anecdotal." CreationDate="2012-06-13T11:53:42.383" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1896" PostId="1135" Score="1" Text="Astonishing what Eddie managed to do, considering he had never run a marathon before. I am in awe of that achievement." CreationDate="2012-06-13T12:21:30.687" UserId="57" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1898" PostId="1134" Score="0" Text="I asked a [meta question](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/221/are-martial-arts-remedies-on-topic/222#222) about whether this is on-topic." CreationDate="2012-06-13T12:53:41.253" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1899" PostId="1063" Score="0" Text="&quot;just a white lacqure painted over what looked like common American oak &quot; Sooooo common, and a very good point. *Caveat emptor*. Most martial arts weapons that are commercially available are lousy, relying on the fact 99% of buyers wouldn't know oak from pine. Quite the dangerous game." CreationDate="2012-06-13T15:46:50.673" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1901" PostId="1135" Score="1" Text="I understand studies have been inconclusive, but icing and cold showers straight after a session help me enormously. If I have a long cold shower I'll be less sore than if I don't. If I ice for an hour or two, I barely get any soreness. Any heat at all seems to be counter-productive for me, although I suspect this varies with the individual." CreationDate="2012-06-14T00:24:32.887" UserId="48" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1902" PostId="1073" Score="1" Text="Low blocks against kicks is pretty core to TKD - just remember, the block isn't there to *stop* the kick, but to *deflect* it to one side or the other. So long as your stance is correct, you should be a narrow target, so you don't need to deflect far. That said, we have one guy at my class whose kicks come in like sledgehammers - your block still needs to be pretty solid or the kick will stay on target." CreationDate="2012-06-14T02:30:54.493" UserId="48" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1903" PostId="1111" Score="0" Text="Any one can make claims, and I don't see how someone like Stanley Henning would ever have had inquiry in historical documents of many centuries old. Besides his own website there aren't many notable mentionings about him to be found. Both links you provided in your previous comments are articles written by him. 'Numerous others' or googling for Tang Hao doesn't really seem to get me anywhere." CreationDate="2012-06-14T07:59:19.267" UserId="478" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1904" PostId="1111" Score="0" Text="Do note that I don't want to instantly disbelief your side of the story, but I don't let my idea of any truth be converted by just one opinion or article. The Bhodidharma legend has been the most believed one for centuries, also researched by numerous historicians (although I'm pretty sure that wasn't a profession more than a century ago) who *did* still cling onto that legend after their research." CreationDate="2012-06-14T08:03:29.263" UserId="478" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1905" PostId="1111" Score="0" Text="You don't see how a historian would have access to historical documents? More to the point, what is the research *for* believing that the Bodhidharma legend has been around for longer than a century?" CreationDate="2012-06-14T12:28:38.987" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1909" PostId="1141" Score="0" Text="I can say we do this at my Taekwondo club. Conditioning by being kicked and pushups on the knuckles in particular." CreationDate="2012-06-15T03:36:35.837" UserId="506" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1911" PostId="592" Score="0" Text="@poepje sorry for late reply. We, in fact, use _only_ wooden and paper knifes (the last are for beginners). And it's also true that you can get great damage even from a wooden knife (you may even get a broken rib, although it's not very likely)." CreationDate="2012-06-15T17:04:23.260" UserDisplayName="user91" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1912" PostId="592" Score="0" Text="Ok, I somehow thought that you were using real knives, although I can't remember from what I got that. Maybe from #1. where you mention accidental stabs. :p" CreationDate="2012-06-15T17:29:15.610" UserId="478" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1913" PostId="592" Score="0" Text="@poepje English is not my primary language, so I must have used an inappropriate word here. Will 'jab' be better when talking about training knife?" CreationDate="2012-06-15T17:46:06.517" UserDisplayName="user91" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1914" PostId="592" Score="0" Text="No, that's not what I meant. Just a misinterpretation. 'Stab' is the right word here, a 'jab' is a short straight punch ;)" CreationDate="2012-06-15T18:06:19.417" UserId="478" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1916" PostId="1145" Score="1" Text="That's all really excellent advice." CreationDate="2012-06-16T16:02:37.827" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1917" PostId="560" Score="0" Text="Just another anecdote to serve as further illustration: I have been dancing Tango a lot, recently, and had to get back to pivoting on the ball of the foot (for elegance). This showed me once again that a) it's harder, b) puts constraints on your footwear and the ground (dancing in the street, which we do, vs in the ballroom requires specially prepared footwear) and c) mostly makes a difference for looks." CreationDate="2012-06-17T14:14:23.193" UserId="186" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1918" PostId="819" Score="0" Text="Any constructive criticism from the downvoter? Am I mistaken, or is it a bad application?" CreationDate="2012-06-18T00:39:39.367" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1919" PostId="1141" Score="0" Text="I was not talking about pain from contact, but pain from hard work: deep, long stretches, and movements to which the body is not accustomed. I'll edit my question to make it clearer." CreationDate="2012-06-18T02:26:22.960" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1920" PostId="1135" Score="0" Text="It worked for me. I like it. Sold. At least until a better answer comes up. :)" CreationDate="2012-06-18T02:33:28.663" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1921" PostId="1125" Score="1" Text="I don't quite see how you can claim that it's &quot;not just false but groundless&quot; based on lack of evidence. It might be groundless based on lack of evidence; that's tautological. I don't think that makes it _false_, though." CreationDate="2012-06-18T02:37:03.057" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1922" PostId="1125" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke False because it's impossible for Chinese emperors' bodyguards to study *anything* as of today. Groundless based on the points I put forth in the rest of the answer." CreationDate="2012-06-18T02:50:26.147" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1923" PostId="1125" Score="0" Text="I removed the bits of my question that may have been interpreted in a way as to suggest that there is still an emperor of China in 2012. Does this change your conclusion somewhat?" CreationDate="2012-06-18T11:49:38.527" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1924" PostId="1125" Score="0" Text="erm - I'm not changing it to annoy you, but because the question did need to be more accurate in order to bring out the answer I wanted, so I made it more accurate." CreationDate="2012-06-18T11:50:29.243" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1925" PostId="1125" Score="0" Text="Good edit. Making the question better is always good. Unfortunately it doesn't really change the facts that A) we don't have much more than a little hearsay and too few examples to go on, and B) it would be like the Secret Service picking Uechi-ryu: totally silly. They train with knives and surveillance and pistols and H2H combatives, not styles of martial arts." CreationDate="2012-06-18T12:18:32.923" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1928" PostId="607" Score="1" Text="-1 Form is always going to break down once he hits anything but air; strength is necessary to maintain good form in anything but kata-based arts." CreationDate="2012-06-18T20:07:10.420" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1929" PostId="607" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Your comment is invalid: Striking against something is implicit in both the question and answer." CreationDate="2012-06-18T21:14:23.620" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1930" PostId="607" Score="0" Text="Making it more explicit would help, because your solution (proper fist-making) has very little to do with impact. But implicit or not, focusing on form alone is not sufficient advice for those who are **too weak** to maintain proper alignment when hitting something." CreationDate="2012-06-18T21:36:30.617" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1931" PostId="607" Score="0" Text="But thanks for taking my feedback into consideration!" CreationDate="2012-06-18T21:38:44.857" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1932" PostId="607" Score="2" Text="I'll vouch for this. My girlfriend, who does Krav, told me her wrist hurts whenever she tosses a hook punch. First punch I could see her from for the punch was off. Couple of quick tips and no more pain when tossing a hook." CreationDate="2012-06-18T22:20:39.393" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1933" PostId="855" Score="2" Text="Weight training can focus on strength or size, or both. Heck even endurance. All depends on the weight used and the scheme (reps and sets)." CreationDate="2012-06-18T22:22:46.300" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1935" PostId="1141" Score="0" Text="Fair enough Trevoke. But I think my answer still stands. As my old instructor used to say &quot;the only way to get good at something is to do more of it&quot;. Which is to say: keep doing those stretches until it doesn't hurt anymore. I'm *not* saying this is the best way to train. I'm just saying it's the traditional martial arts (macho) way." CreationDate="2012-06-18T23:18:28.200" UserId="443" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1937" PostId="1141" Score="0" Text="@nedlud Yes, in a couple of years, I probably won't  get quite as sore when doing martial arts for seven hours a day; in the meanwhile, I want to know how I can keep doing it." CreationDate="2012-06-19T01:54:40.403" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1939" PostId="1153" Score="0" Text="My only success with these, and perhaps it was a different model, was only letting kids hit it. I found them simply inappropriate for bag work by a strong, reasonably large adult." CreationDate="2012-06-19T02:21:07.323" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1941" PostId="607" Score="0" Text="@WayneInML Different issue, different solution. I don't think bad form should be left bad. I think that it's totally different from buckling during good form due to weakness." CreationDate="2012-06-19T02:25:54.413" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1943" PostId="607" Score="0" Text="Without seeing a video how do we know it is bad form or bad wrist strength? My experience tends to say form is usually the fault the majority of the time. YMMV. I would disagree that form always breaks down once you hit anything but air. Again, just my experience." CreationDate="2012-06-19T15:30:59.907" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1944" PostId="1153" Score="1" Text="I'm with Dave, I have yet to find a way to stabilize them against a strong force, the things are going to move around the floor. I used to see how far I could move it during exercises." CreationDate="2012-06-19T15:32:35.257" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1945" PostId="1154" Score="0" Text="Ours were water filled, no issue for me moving them. Sand I've found to be better in my own experience." CreationDate="2012-06-19T15:33:50.950" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1946" PostId="1129" Score="0" Text="I made some small changes to it so that it looks a little bit the same after step 8, but thanks!" CreationDate="2012-06-20T11:52:11.320" UserId="422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1947" PostId="1154" Score="0" Text="i've heard water and sand is best, if you plan on having to move it a lot, it'll be heavier then one or the other.   if you don't ever have to move it again, concrete is good." CreationDate="2012-06-20T13:02:17.223" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1948" PostId="1141" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke if it's so you can keep training now, I'd forget about &quot;traditional&quot; tecniques. A nurse I train with swears by pain killers, and anti-inflamatories :) You can even use the proactivley *before* training." CreationDate="2012-06-21T00:44:00.693" UserId="443" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1949" PostId="1141" Score="0" Text="Pain killers and anti-inflammatories? Interesting cocktail; I don't think I'd want to have her body in ten years. Mind you, you've helped me figure out a way to ask the question more precisely.." CreationDate="2012-06-21T01:26:57.667" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1950" PostId="1163" Score="0" Text="B.T.W. - My son also took part in the drill. Rory said he's the one who &quot;won&quot; the drill. See if you can figure out who he was, and how he won the drill :)" CreationDate="2012-06-21T06:08:54.730" UserId="173" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1952" PostId="1163" Score="0" Text="Video: content unavailable, unfortunately for me." CreationDate="2012-06-21T13:53:04.537" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1953" PostId="1164" Score="0" Text="Do I need to do anything except saw it off beneath the cracks? I'm not terribly worried about the pitch!" CreationDate="2012-06-21T14:02:29.557" UserId="541" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1954" PostId="1168" Score="1" Text="Hooray for references! That's a strong case for the Baji side of things. The bagua side is still unverified, and it's important to keep in mind the difference between institutionalized Baji and that particular Baji lineage being politically connected, but this is great. +100." CreationDate="2012-06-21T14:59:58.003" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1955" PostId="1163" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke I checked - it's shared with friends-of-friends of Lee Lavi (https://www.facebook.com/lee.lavi). You can contact her and ask for the video?" CreationDate="2012-06-21T15:36:13.177" UserId="173" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1956" PostId="1163" Score="0" Text="Posted a link to this question on Rory's wall https://www.facebook.com/rory.miller.965" CreationDate="2012-06-21T15:37:38.760" UserId="173" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1957" PostId="1164" Score="0" Text="Well I would use some kind of a polisher too, just to make it a clean finish. Good luck mate." CreationDate="2012-06-21T16:21:52.543" UserId="542" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1961" PostId="1166" Score="0" Text="I've cleaned up the wording and improved the title. In my opinion, this is much better than the original question so I'm reopening it. Feel free to make any other little changes as needed." CreationDate="2012-06-22T10:58:45.580" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1962" PostId="1166" Score="0" Text="@MatthChan Thanks for your help Matt - I'm used to using stack overflow, where asking technical, direct questions is imho much easier :)" CreationDate="2012-06-22T11:09:44.390" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1964" PostId="1166" Score="1" Text="@Nathan: Super.  +1, this is (now) a good question." CreationDate="2012-06-22T12:57:36.913" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1965" PostId="1169" Score="0" Text="I didn't even think of flexibility in my back... I'm a software developer and sit in a chair all day... so my posture/lower back aren't great - I'll give that a try as a starting point - thanks so much!" CreationDate="2012-06-22T14:38:51.457" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1966" PostId="1170" Score="0" Text="Thanks so much for a wonderfully detailed answer... I guess I'll be looking for some weights on eBay!! :-)" CreationDate="2012-06-23T10:07:24.250" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1968" PostId="1177" Score="0" Text="Nice answer. However, I don't agree that the fight is over when your opponent is on the ground. IMHO it's only over when he's not longer a danger." CreationDate="2012-06-24T07:58:18.140" UserId="173" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1970" PostId="1177" Score="2" Text="@Avi You are correct, but I was referring more to the extra few kicks the MG's delivered to the BG once he was on the ground - at that point he was not a threat, the kicks were simply wanton retribution." CreationDate="2012-06-24T11:33:52.893" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1971" PostId="1170" Score="0" Text="@Nathan Craigslist can be good too, particularly for the squat rack. The books I mentioned also have very detailed notes on how to pick your weights, bars, and racks." CreationDate="2012-06-24T15:58:48.727" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1973" PostId="1173" Score="2" Text="How about not being an arse?" CreationDate="2012-06-25T06:46:22.717" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1974" PostId="43" Score="2" Text="Re: The catch thing - you said yourself that people have issues catching with their off hand because they don't usually catch with their off hand. Train both sides and you can use both sides. It may take a while to train the off side, but it can be done. Good examples of this are bellydancers (they can flex their obliques without moving over muscles, not to mention isolating the three sections of front abdominal muscles, which is really hard to do), and jugglers (can catch with either hand)." CreationDate="2012-06-25T13:51:33.773" UserId="341" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1975" PostId="1173" Score="3" Text="I wouldnt say never kick.  Kicks are extremely effective, and important when trying to keep an attacker away from you.  Never kick *like that*, perhaps." CreationDate="2012-06-25T22:17:26.283" UserId="84" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1976" PostId="1040" Score="0" Text="You need to be careful with this attitude (I'm not saying it's wrong, just that it's easily to apply poorly). I've had to intervene in two separate situations where I've seen bouncers escalating a situation which didn't need to lead to physical conflict at all. In both cases, I defused a situation the bouncer was pushing towards violence." CreationDate="2012-06-26T03:26:38.703" UserId="48" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1977" PostId="1040" Score="0" Text="Let me phrase that differently. Your goal, in taking control of the escalation, has to be de-escalation. I've had to intervene in two separate situations where the bouncer was more interested in getting to the smack-in-the-mouth stage of escalation than he was in proceeding quickly (and preferably without violence) to the de-escalation stage." CreationDate="2012-06-26T03:31:02.147" UserId="48" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1978" PostId="1040" Score="1" Text="@Rophuine Your second statement is totally correct, that was what I was implicitly meaning, especially with the phrase `and by how much`. The key thing is that no two situations are exactly alike, each one needs to be judged on its merits (or lack thereof). And I agree about bouncers - there are a lot of them out there who do the job for entirely the wrong reason." CreationDate="2012-06-26T06:57:12.670" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1981" PostId="1170" Score="0" Text="great answer!  i saw this question thinking i'd be able to contribute, but you and sardathrion pretty much covered it all!" CreationDate="2012-06-26T16:36:01.533" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1982" PostId="1169" Score="1" Text="ankle flexibility might be the problem as well, i suppose that is part of leg flexibility, but it's often overlooked.  I've had trouble with squats in the past, and it was due to inflexible ankles!" CreationDate="2012-06-26T16:36:52.047" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1983" PostId="1170" Score="0" Text="@Patricia Thanks! If you even have different wording on the same advice, or can speak about your own experience, that would be a really valuable answer." CreationDate="2012-06-26T17:51:15.853" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1984" PostId="874" Score="0" Text="+1 for power plus timing and trickery. Any chance you could detail the forms that produce leg power?" CreationDate="2012-06-26T18:54:38.560" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1986" PostId="874" Score="1" Text="@DaveLiepmann I've seen this training outside of my primary art. By default, do the forms much slower and lower and do not &quot;fall&quot; into the step. If you do them at slow speed, it forces you to remain balanced on a single leg until the probing leg touches the next spot.  Over time, you become more difficult to uproot. Xingyi has specifically a footwork called &quot;half step&quot;, where the first step is 1.5 strides ahead, and the other foot follow steps. It appears so often in the forms that you end up practicing that the most." CreationDate="2012-06-26T21:08:34.673" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1989" PostId="1143" Score="1" Text="It's funny, I found this question yesterday, and then yesterday night at our dojo we did exercises focusing on exactly this topic. Weird how things work sometimes." CreationDate="2012-06-27T15:24:39.763" UserId="167" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1990" PostId="43" Score="0" Text="@Shauna +1 for belly dancing and &quot;train both sides to use both sides&quot;. It's a bit like anything: If you want to do a task better, do that task; I don't subscribe to the idea that, &quot;If I need to carry a 180 lbs. man, I should do bench presses.&quot; Instead, carry dead weight in similar fashion." CreationDate="2012-06-27T15:41:48.347" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1991" PostId="607" Score="1" Text="@DaveLiepmann Punching a bag with proper form is creating resistive tension in the muscles of the forearm that brace the wrist. The strength of your wrist is not static; it adapts to the stresses under which it's placed. Two quotes for you: *Practice doesn't make perfect; perfect practice makes perfect.* And *If you want to be better at **X**, do **X***" CreationDate="2012-06-27T15:45:33.340" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1993" PostId="607" Score="1" Text="@stslavik While I still disagree with your assertion that doing X is always the best training for doing X (see Practical Programming for a thorough refutation), and I think that strength is still an area of concern, I see your point that you are advocating hitting a target. I can't undo my downvote without an edit. Maybe emphasizing the &quot;hit an object with force&quot; (as opposed to &quot;punch the air or punch a target gently&quot;) part of your answer would be a good edit that would allow me to undownvote." CreationDate="2012-06-27T16:27:33.933" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1996" PostId="1187" Score="0" Text="That does make sense. I was back in class for the first time in a long time (I'd been doing triathlons for a couple years) when this happened. I've been stretching regularly for a long time. I'm wondering if it's not a relation between returning to TKD and worn out padding on my run training shoes.  FWIW, it ruptured on a drill we'd already done about 6 rotations of in the class." CreationDate="2012-06-27T17:15:10.230" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1997" PostId="1187" Score="0" Text="It is always the last time on the drill.. As I've said I've known people that have done this on box jumps, and they have done box jumps hundreds of times in the past. Suddenly the stars aligned and poof, injury." CreationDate="2012-06-27T17:17:11.180" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="1998" PostId="1187" Score="0" Text="Yeah, that's the worrying bit :D And of course it's always the last time, if you didn't get injured you'd still be doing the drils... heh!" CreationDate="2012-06-27T17:36:21.343" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2004" PostId="595" Score="1" Text="Pikup a copy of John Brookfield's book &quot;Mastery of Hand Strength&quot;. Lots of good information." CreationDate="2012-06-19T01:13:46.917" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2005" PostId="607" Score="0" Text="Suggest link for &quot;Practical Programming&quot; (There are about 2 dozen similar titles in various media). I made my point; you feel the information is wrong or dangerous, and we've both made our relative arguments. I'll leave it to the community to decide their view." CreationDate="2012-06-28T15:33:11.930" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2007" PostId="816" Score="0" Text="http://www.santacruzyoga.net/blog/feet-pada-bandha" CreationDate="2012-06-15T05:58:25.737" UserDisplayName="user531" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2009" PostId="1192" Score="0" Text="'buries' =&gt; 'burns' ? Thanks for the answer!" CreationDate="2012-06-29T15:07:33.707" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2010" PostId="1192" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke - 'buries' =&gt; 'bruises' My spelling is off today. :/" CreationDate="2012-06-29T15:26:00.070" UserId="46" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2011" PostId="1192" Score="0" Text="Tiger balm does work wonders (though it's as expensive as gold). Capsaicin, e.g. rubbing a habanero on the skin, works wonders too, though you had better be careful with coming anywhere close to your face afterwards, even after washing hands." CreationDate="2012-06-30T21:32:05.083" UserId="559" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2012" PostId="1177" Score="1" Text="MG#1 puts up his guards first and throws the first punch, a sloppy punch but clearly a punch. There is no clear audio, but judging only from the body language, BG weren't the one to escalate the level of hostility, he only matched MG#1's. If you were trained, you probably know how to raise a guard without raising hostility, but he weren't trained and so responded in the only way he know of." CreationDate="2012-07-01T06:30:05.283" UserId="560" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2015" PostId="969" Score="0" Text="This isn't an answer because it doesn't cover the *historical* angle, but [this post on Bullshido](http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=57922&amp;p=1520006&amp;viewfull=1#post1520006) makes the excellent point that it is futile to turn (some kinds) of *tuishou* into competition. Like point karate tournaments, it takes away from the full breadth of the art. (In *taiji*'s case, striking.)" CreationDate="2012-07-02T02:54:05.940" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2016" PostId="1086" Score="0" Text="added. you don't need to upvote or delete anything btw" CreationDate="2012-07-02T21:59:24.573" UserId="10" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2017" PostId="37" Score="1" Text="Realistically you're usually going to be doing both if you're going for a blood choke. It's pretty hard to not also restrict airflow." CreationDate="2012-07-03T22:27:14.200" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2019" PostId="1008" Score="1" Text="I definitely found pumelling drills to be quite similar to sticky hands when I was cross training with a WC practitioner." CreationDate="2012-07-03T22:40:15.730" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2020" PostId="1173" Score="0" Text="Why are you excluding the best possible answer to the question? It's so easy to avoid a road rage fist fight (which, btw might be a tire iron fight) by keeping your doors locked that finding some bizarre scenario in which it's impossible to stay in your car just smells like looking for an excuse to fight." CreationDate="2012-07-03T22:44:32.433" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2021" PostId="1202" Score="0" Text="Every white guy can do savate and every black guy can do capoeira. Did you miss the memo? :p" CreationDate="2012-07-04T02:09:44.517" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2023" PostId="404" Score="0" Text="Slipping your hand inside his thigh is inviting trouble, unless he has really short legs or you have a thick torso. Unless those conditions are in place, you can expect to have him figure 4 you with your arm trapped." CreationDate="2012-07-04T09:59:16.103" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2024" PostId="242" Score="0" Text="Do you also have a short torso?" CreationDate="2012-07-04T10:01:58.737" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2025" PostId="888" Score="0" Text="I'm struggling to think of a scenario in which you have one hand tied behind your back, rather than two. I'm also unclear about &quot;losing&quot; your hand - is that literally losing it (in which case you're bleeding out rapidly) or losing the use of it due to injury?" CreationDate="2012-07-04T10:24:51.847" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2026" PostId="1210" Score="0" Text="At 52/130 I'm too old and fat (and fragile) for that... :)" CreationDate="2012-07-04T11:13:28.637" UserId="173" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2029" PostId="1206" Score="1" Text="i'm going to have to disagree with the americana from mount being a waste, i've finished 2 fights a couple tournaments ago with it :P    you make a good point about setting up the subs and not worrying about staying in mount though.  i do often catch the arm bars on the way off.  but the points game is still a huge part of the sport." CreationDate="2012-07-04T14:16:06.837" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2031" PostId="1206" Score="0" Text="You'll only succeed if there's a skill discrepancy, and then only if they have poor shoulder mobility. If you've got that skill discrepancy, you're not going to have trouble maintaining mount. Baiting the americana is the easiest mount escape there is - everything else they have to work for, but if you go for the americana you're giving them the bridge." CreationDate="2012-07-04T20:12:20.717" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2032" PostId="855" Score="1" Text="Jay Cutler's a better example than Arnold or Coleman. Both of those guys are also incredibly strong, Arnold was a powerlifting champ before he became a bodybuilder and Coleman can deadlift over 800lbs. Some body builders are just big, but others are both big and strong." CreationDate="2012-07-05T04:11:40.617" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2033" PostId="131" Score="0" Text="Doing exercises with light weights is more likely to impact speed than doing it with heavy weights. Doing training with heavy weights will give you the strength foundation to build your speed, but doing it with light weights will just slow you down enough to reprogram your muscles to move at a slower speed. That's why shadowboxing should never be done with greater than 1lbs weights." CreationDate="2012-07-05T04:13:08.523" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2034" PostId="938" Score="0" Text="It is quite odd, yes but I think it's worth looking into the tactical implications. Do we see the forward stepping reverse punch in something like the Sabaki Challenge? If not, that could indicate that you might only want to do it while stepping back." CreationDate="2012-07-05T04:19:55.177" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2038" PostId="1206" Score="0" Text="Great answer. You have a point with the Americana, too--it works if you're a lot better than them, or if they're not so good, but it's totally absent in high-level judo and BJJ competition. It's just not high-percentage." CreationDate="2012-07-05T13:23:33.397" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2039" PostId="404" Score="0" Text="@RobinAshe You mean he'll take the crucifix?" CreationDate="2012-07-05T13:25:28.217" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2040" PostId="432" Score="1" Text="Standard pushups work just fine. If looking to build strength I would suggest barbell exercises such as the presses (bench and overhead), along with pushups. dips, and pullups. Also make sure your technique is solid. Jack Dempsey wrote a book many years ago on power generation (Championship Fighting)." CreationDate="2012-07-05T14:58:22.753" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2041" PostId="1218" Score="1" Text="By 'blade', you mean the actual edge of the weapon? And by blocking, do you mean 'stop the incoming attack', or do you include things like parry and deflect?" CreationDate="2012-07-05T15:33:32.633" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2042" PostId="1218" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke: Question edited." CreationDate="2012-07-05T15:45:05.360" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2043" PostId="404" Score="0" Text="I suppose that's possible too, but much less common. Figure 4 is also referred to as a body triangle." CreationDate="2012-07-05T16:24:26.383" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2046" PostId="1218" Score="0" Text="I wish I could answer with a yes or no. Would you find useful an answer with some empirical understanding from my few years studying iaido?" CreationDate="2012-07-05T17:28:35.113" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2047" PostId="1182" Score="0" Text="They're not that uncommon among ballet dancers, so assuming you know any you could ask them about it too." CreationDate="2012-07-05T17:35:47.890" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2048" PostId="1032" Score="0" Text="Ideally though, there should still be flexibility within the styles. TKD and Karate are pretty similar, but you would wonder why when doing TKD they might insist on a narrower stance and karate might insist on a wider stance, and why there isn't a range of stances you could choose based on your body type." CreationDate="2012-07-05T17:39:35.420" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2049" PostId="1032" Score="0" Text="@RobinAshe Of course--but the question here is about studying different styles at the same time. IMO if you're studying a specific style, studying a closely-related style at the same time can cause issues because in classes for the given style you should follow the principles *of that style*, particularly until rather advanced. Stances are relative to body type by definition anyway; my point is that when in TKD class, do what your TKD instructor tells you to. Internalizing a closely-related style simultaneously is difficult, unless you're already fairly advanced overall." CreationDate="2012-07-05T17:43:41.910" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2050" PostId="864" Score="0" Text="Nice one for the wrist stretches :) I joined in a few hapkido classes once and the instructor did exactly these exercises and stressed they were the same as the wrist locks. It's a lesson that has stuck with me and I've made those wrist stretches past of my routine warm up." CreationDate="2012-07-05T23:29:14.467" UserId="443" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2051" PostId="1220" Score="0" Text="Putting your weight fully on your heels is a bad habit - makes it a lot easier to get thrown, particularly with morote gari. While it might correct for being bouncy, it'll be something they'll have to once again correct later." CreationDate="2012-07-06T01:06:42.727" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2052" PostId="1220" Score="0" Text="Please note - I did not say to put weight fully on their heels. TKD practitioners generally spar from the balls of their feet, I merely said get them to drop their heels down from being on the ball of the foot all the time." CreationDate="2012-07-06T01:11:07.947" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2053" PostId="1220" Score="0" Text="@JohnP I'm not sure what style they are. I'll ask next time I see them. I didn't realise there were different types of TKD, but I guess it makes sense. There's different styles of every other martial art ;) Thanks." CreationDate="2012-07-06T01:14:39.610" UserId="443" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2054" PostId="1219" Score="1" Text="How is their squatting ability? If they lack the strength to squat to thighs parallel while holding someone their own weight in a fireman's carry (think kata guruma) that'll be a significant barrier to them lowering their hips enough for a throw." CreationDate="2012-07-06T01:28:40.560" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2055" PostId="1220" Score="5" Text="ITF-based styles also tend to bounce quite a bit for the same reasons (though most incorporate more hand work). One other note, with a style that is so kick-heavy, the bouncing helps to conceal attacks until they're already under way." CreationDate="2012-07-06T02:04:05.993" UserId="338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2056" PostId="131" Score="2" Text="The prescription for sprinters that I've seen is really, really heavy deadlifts for very few reps (1-3). Increasing maximal strength for that movement chain immediately improves power for all but elite runners, since power is a proportion of strength. I'd argue that since sprinters get plenty of power work by sprinting, the best area to hit during lifting is maximal strength, which allows their power development from sprinting to have maximal benefit." CreationDate="2012-07-06T04:12:02.490" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2057" PostId="1218" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke: I would indeed find this interesting.  Question edited with my motivations..." CreationDate="2012-07-06T05:28:49.443" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2058" PostId="1211" Score="2" Text="+1 for &quot;Often we learn not by doing the right thing, but by doing the wrong thing and realising afterwards that it was wrong.&quot;" CreationDate="2012-07-06T05:34:29.890" UserId="485" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2059" PostId="1205" Score="5" Text="Not a direct answer (I would also LOVE to see an answer), but in my opinion you failed *multiple times*. That is, you failed to spot the anxiety at those strangers (although you were unoccupied), you failed to keep your distance (although there was plenty of free space on the street) and THEN you failed to keep cool when they attacked you (emotionally). Check this out: http://conflictcommunications.com/Articles.htm . Maybe a good advice is to get used to thinking about the consequences of your action, no the very action (e.g. live 10 seconds in the future). Maybe not." CreationDate="2012-07-06T05:47:24.810" UserId="485" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2060" PostId="1210" Score="1" Text="Last summer I made a one month trek in the Balkan mountains. One guy was 70-year old. Also, http://ngepit.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/burn_fat.jpg" CreationDate="2012-07-06T05:52:06.927" UserId="485" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2061" PostId="214" Score="0" Text="They once made us do footwork with feet buried in the sand. This provides resistance and makes you really commit your body to the move. Then, without the resistance, one moves much faster. Beaches are cool. Also I like training footwork when ankle-, knee-, waist- or shoulder-deep in the see. However, no one showed me this and I am not sure if it is exactly pedagogical." CreationDate="2012-07-06T06:02:09.367" UserId="485" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2065" PostId="1206" Score="1" Text="granted, it's best from side control, but i wouldn't call it a waste from mount.  if all else fails, they'll often straighten their arm to avoid it, or like you said bridge, and when they do, hello arm bar." CreationDate="2012-07-06T16:22:53.280" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2066" PostId="1226" Score="0" Text="When I was studying Villari's system, I was taught 1 and 2 pinan, as well as 1, 2, and 3 kata. I don't recall the order in which they were taught to me, but I remember learning all of those." CreationDate="2012-07-06T18:16:39.090" UserId="334" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2067" PostId="1205" Score="2" Text="@Vorac - In my opinion, that is absolutely an answer. Not the question that's been asked, but the question that's lying underneath - the root cause." CreationDate="2012-07-06T22:26:10.760" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2069" PostId="1225" Score="0" Text="From what I've picked up about blade making, the reason to avoid blocking with the sharp edge is not just because of dulling or chipping - it's also because the steel is physically harder on the back edge (i.e. the steel is softer on the sharp edge not just because of thinness but because of the smelting process)." CreationDate="2012-07-07T02:51:33.747" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2070" PostId="1225" Score="0" Text="That is true - however, the structural integrity of the Japanese sword is much more easily compromised if you do a hard block with the back edge. That is, the blade is much more likely to snap." CreationDate="2012-07-07T03:09:16.637" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2075" PostId="1225" Score="1" Text="@slugster: I always thought that hard steel was useful to keep an edge and soft steel was useful for absorbing impacts.  Thus, I would have assumed that the edge of the *katana* is hard and the back soft.  Anyone a metallurgist?" CreationDate="2012-07-09T13:56:18.150" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2078" PostId="1213" Score="2" Text="One of the core principles of most martial arts is avoiding unnecessary violence - and reacting to the insult received by replying with another insult could have escalated the situation to violence. Those two teenagers could have been sailing around insulting people looking for someone to react and give them an excuse for a fight. They could have been armed.&#xA;&#xA;Avi's response was normal and understandable, but it was a long way from the best possible." CreationDate="2012-07-09T23:46:39.987" UserId="48" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2079" PostId="1225" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion: I'm not a metallurgist, but my understanding is that a hard metal will keep an edge, but a blade that is too hard becomes brittle. Adding the soft elements allows enough flexibility to remain intact yet keeps the blade sharp. It **can** absorb a hit, but that's not the intention. You might enjoy [this video](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwQqtf86qOc). It is part of a series of excellent videos on traditional swordmaking and could answer some of your questions." CreationDate="2012-07-10T02:34:34.390" UserId="522" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2080" PostId="1229" Score="0" Text="Jabs: I don't know exactly what he meant by &quot;block&quot;. Maybe he meant &quot;meet the opponent's blade with your own&quot; and maybe he meant &quot;forcefully stop the attack with your blade&quot;. It's a good question." CreationDate="2012-07-10T02:55:52.367" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2081" PostId="1225" Score="0" Text="@jabs: Thank you.  It confirms what I thought." CreationDate="2012-07-10T06:16:09.197" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2084" PostId="1229" Score="0" Text="Trevoke - yes, there is definitely room for interpretation." CreationDate="2012-07-10T12:42:09.657" UserId="522" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2088" PostId="1193" Score="0" Text="Pool noodles. What a great idea :) I saw these being used as targets at an archery place recently too." CreationDate="2012-07-10T22:12:33.263" UserId="443" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2089" PostId="998" Score="0" Text="@Samuel Learn how to avoid/parry the punches, before sparring. You should talk to your coach, I'm sure he'll give you some exercises on how to parry. The thing is that you just have to ask, instead of damaging your brains. I practise MMA &amp; Muay Thai for 4 years and I refuse to spar with no matter who (beginner/expert). And if I spar I choose to wear head gear just in case." CreationDate="2012-07-11T07:31:19.157" UserId="500" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2090" PostId="999" Score="0" Text="+1 @DaveLiepmann I'm combining Muay Thai &amp; MMA, but I don't spar or do competition fights. So if I only do the training, are my brains still in danger? Because from your answer I understand that no matter what you do, kickboxing is bad. Correct me if I'm wrong." CreationDate="2012-07-11T07:46:30.780" UserId="500" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2091" PostId="999" Score="4" Text="@SirProgrammer I am not trying to say all kickboxing is bad. There's a lot more nuance to the issue. A simplified version of my view is closer to this: Getting hit in the head is a little bad, getting hit in the head hard enough to be concussed is bad, getting concussions frequently is very bad, getting concussions frequently for many years is SUPER BAD." CreationDate="2012-07-11T13:18:39.653" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2092" PostId="1193" Score="0" Text="That's fascinating. I never would have thought of them for archery..." CreationDate="2012-07-11T15:25:40.820" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2093" PostId="1235" Score="2" Text="I did state in the question that I intended to have it strengthened first. The brace isn't for weak muscles, it would be for the ligaments, which can't be rehabbed." CreationDate="2012-07-12T04:01:11.517" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2094" PostId="172" Score="1" Text="I agree completely about the fear thing. The fear of getting hurt will cause us to do stupid things out of proportion to the real threat. Learning that a hit doesn't hurt as much as we fear it will is a huge lesson. Just like practicing breakfalls and learning that falling down is no big deal. This is not to say that a hit (or fall) can't be dangerous. In the news today, where I live, is a story about a 17yo who died after being hit once outside a nightclub. It's dangerous. But fear is dangerous too." CreationDate="2012-07-12T05:55:26.103" UserId="443" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2103" PostId="1235" Score="0" Text="Ligaments do heal: http://www.ehow.com/how_5251174_heal-ligaments.html" CreationDate="2012-07-12T13:19:49.807" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2105" PostId="172" Score="1" Text="Same thing happened here about 2 years ago – suspicion is that one of the valet's clocked a loudmouth in the back of the head (since amazingly &quot;nobody saw anything&quot; even though it was at the valet stand). Never saw it coming... And that's kind of the point – since he never saw it coming, there's nothing he could do; no way to change it. What sense is there in worrying over what we can't change (the inevitability of death, for instance). Getting hit is still less dangerous than throwing a few thousand pounds of metal down an interstate at 70 miles an hour." CreationDate="2012-07-12T15:45:58.433" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2107" PostId="1235" Score="1" Text="Ligaments heal, but extremely slowly due to the minimal blood flow to the relatively static portions of the body. Prolotherapy (a therapy consisting of injecting blood into the area to aid regeneration) can be quite successful in helping torn and damaged ligaments heal." CreationDate="2012-07-12T16:14:14.807" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2111" PostId="999" Score="3" Text="@SirProgrammer - Kickboxing is not bad, nor is boxing. Head trauma is bad, as dave said. It's just a little more likely to occur in martial arts, it's the nature of the beast. If you don't spar or do competition fighting, then you're probably no likelier to suffer a traumatic head injury than someone that does kick box aerobics. Even light head contact *can* be ok, as the brain has a decent cushioning system. It's the brain impacting the skull or neural fibers tearing in the brainstem that cause the problems. My worst (only) knockout I ever suffered was playing flag football." CreationDate="2012-07-12T20:20:23.373" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2112" PostId="1238" Score="0" Text="Thanks. I hadn't considered the point about increasing resistance to rotation, that's something I'll be discussing with physio and chiro to see where the risks and benefits lie for my specific situation. The impact protection plate also looks good for helping avoid a seperated shoulder from the suplex (although obviously I'll be doing my best to avoid letting anyone WPR me from behind)." CreationDate="2012-07-12T21:54:40.017" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2113" PostId="1238" Score="0" Text="It wouldn't be *much* resistance, but there will be some. and X2 on not getting wpr suplexed from behind. :D" CreationDate="2012-07-12T21:56:34.287" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2114" PostId="594" Score="0" Text="Kali-s focus mostly on knifes e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYTfb1gJf0Q&amp;feature=related" CreationDate="2012-07-13T05:24:19.497" UserId="485" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2116" PostId="1242" Score="0" Text="Could you quote exactly what Renzo's claim is?" CreationDate="2012-07-14T01:52:09.663" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2118" PostId="1242" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann if I can find it at the library and it hasn't been checked out." CreationDate="2012-07-14T04:20:25.560" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2119" PostId="1242" Score="0" Text="From what I can glean through Amazon's preview feature (and I certainly could be mistaken since I have not seen the full text either), Renzo does not make the claim that BJJ is directly descended from Fusen-ryu. He does argue that BJJ and Fusen share a fight strategy, and he speaks (with references to some of the same sources as me) of Fusen using guard-pulling and ground grappling to defeat the Kodokan team. Again, this does not require the official Fusen waza or kata to involve groundwork, nor for BJJ to be a direct descendant." CreationDate="2012-07-14T23:37:34.747" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2120" PostId="1231" Score="3" Text="Yes this, a million times this; moreover, as I unfortunately learned YOU MUST TRUST THOSE AROUND YOU TO STOP THE FIGHT FOR YOU. I was in the unfortunate situation of seeing stars sparring a few years ago, and while I know this means stop immediately, my brain had forgot and said I was fine when asked. My memory's not been all the same since the 3rd time I saw stars that night, I couldn't sleep for a week." CreationDate="2012-07-14T23:42:34.180" UserId="580" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2121" PostId="1231" Score="1" Text="To note, I had seen stars fighting maybe 3 times in my life before that night (and none sense), so it doesn't take a lot of dings to do the job, difference was each of the previous times I had someone there who told me I was done for 2 weeks." CreationDate="2012-07-14T23:43:27.610" UserId="580" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2123" PostId="1249" Score="2" Text="+1, stance work is very important for throwing strength. we judoka find ourselves needing to produce force from strange positions, and stance work is helping me not suck at that." CreationDate="2012-07-15T17:20:45.657" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2124" PostId="1242" Score="0" Text="Any chance of getting the proper kanji on *Fusen-ryu*? I know of a school of *kusarigama-jutsu* called *Fusen-ryu* as well. Might help to track down the appropriate art and some documentation." CreationDate="2012-07-16T15:15:46.600" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2125" PostId="1242" Score="0" Text="@stslavik can't say I've ever seen the kanji for it, I suppose you could go backwards and find out what the kanji for that school in question is" CreationDate="2012-07-16T15:53:52.577" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2127" PostId="1248" Score="0" Text="Thanks for your detailled response, I'll definetly add sprints to my workout routine. So much good ideas here!" CreationDate="2012-07-16T19:09:57.927" UserId="575" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2128" PostId="1247" Score="0" Text="Thanks for your detailled response. I've looked into hindu-squats but I'm always a little bit afraid of doing too much squats because they are probably bad on your knees? &#xA;This grip-trainer looks good too, another weak point of mine." CreationDate="2012-07-16T19:11:47.083" UserId="575" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2129" PostId="1247" Score="1" Text="Poorly done squats are bad for your knees, well done squats are good for your knees. I'd lean towards bodyweight squats being potentially worse because of the higher reps you need to do to get any results from them, so any effects of poor form are amplified." CreationDate="2012-07-16T19:29:32.490" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2130" PostId="1244" Score="2" Text="Nice answer. I agree completely with you, esp about the &quot;more harm than good&quot; part. I don't mind training technique, and even once had an instructor that said we should get fit in our own time and come to class ready to train technique. I've also seen some shocking warm up routines in schools, but this seems to be the exception rather than the rule." CreationDate="2012-07-16T21:53:25.270" UserId="443" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2131" PostId="1242" Score="0" Text="@stslavik The kusarigama school I know is separate; details and origins of the jujitsu style (e.g. &quot;The founder of the Fusen ryu jujitsu was a Zen priest/abbot known as Motsuge Zenji otherwise known as Genkotsu Osho of the Saihoji temple  of Onomichi&quot;) are in the PDF I linked to. Unfortunately I don't have the actual kanji." CreationDate="2012-07-17T13:14:23.013" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2132" PostId="855" Score="1" Text="@RobinAshe Excellent point. I edited my answer to use Cutler and focus more on the &quot;looking like&quot; part of the statement." CreationDate="2012-07-17T15:30:32.083" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2133" PostId="1251" Score="5" Text="I disagree with a grappler will almost always win against a striker. Depends on how several factors as to who will win. For example a well placed knee does wonders to prevent someone shooting in for a take down." CreationDate="2012-07-17T20:30:35.460" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2134" PostId="1251" Score="0" Text="@WayneInML The question is just presuming straight grappling to grappling." CreationDate="2012-07-17T20:52:06.507" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2135" PostId="1251" Score="2" Text="Wow. Did no one here watch the first five UFCs? This is a great answer. &quot;Almost always&quot; is pretty accurate. The enormous wealth of boxing/kickboxing/TKD/kyokushin challenge matches against BJJ have solved that one pretty thoroughly." CreationDate="2012-07-17T21:04:14.247" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2137" PostId="1251" Score="2" Text="If you think that &quot;boxing/kickboxing/TKD/kyokushin challenge matches&quot; are representative of &quot;combat&quot; or &quot;fighting&quot; then there's already a problem." CreationDate="2012-07-17T21:14:56.090" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2138" PostId="1251" Score="2" Text="@DavidH.Clements They're as close to evidence as we get in most training, and despite their shortcomings as evidence, I think it silly to try to deny the problem that they expose in a striking-only training program." CreationDate="2012-07-17T21:26:21.007" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2139" PostId="262" Score="3" Text="I don't really like this answer. You can't really learn to fight just by learning and perfecting the form. If you don't believe me, you have not probably fought anybody outside your own school. Don't get me wrong - forms/katas are good learning aid but on their own they fall short as a method of teaching martial skill." CreationDate="2012-07-17T21:32:37.973" UserId="424" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2140" PostId="1252" Score="1" Text="That isn't going to help, they're not going to try to grab your arms or legs, they're going to grab your body, and you can't keep your hips or shoulders retracted." CreationDate="2012-07-17T22:48:26.957" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2143" PostId="262" Score="4" Text="@Roland - I understand what you mean, I think you are missing something quite subtle - katas are designed to *finish fights*. If you look at anyone of a high enough rank, their &quot;fighting&quot; consists of distinct sequences of moves, it isn't a continuous rumble (if it is then you are doing it wrong). There is a difference between real-world fights in the street (which need to be finished ASAP) and fights in controlled situations like a cage or ring - my answer is from the &quot;real world&quot; perspective." CreationDate="2012-07-18T00:04:57.657" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2144" PostId="262" Score="4" Text="@Roland - I've spent a lot of time as a bouncer (club doorman) so have had my fair share of trouble. Kata moves work incredibly well in real fights, in fact it can be quite scary when you instinctively perform the moves and leave someone (almost literally) in pieces on the pavement, it gives you a new respect for what you've learnt. Of course this stuff doesn't apply in the same way in controlled fights, those require skills and talents beyond just executing kata moves. But remember the question wasn't about fighting as such, it was about the uses of kata/forms." CreationDate="2012-07-18T00:09:45.747" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2145" PostId="1253" Score="2" Text="I'm always skeptical of claims like this, although thank you for your disclaimer. Have you tested it against an actual grappler, rather than someone trained in Blauer's system who happens to attempt to grapple?" CreationDate="2012-07-18T04:35:51.197" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2146" PostId="1252" Score="0" Text="That said, it is still good advice, just not for the stated purpose. Retracting your punches quickly is good for avoiding striking counter attacks." CreationDate="2012-07-18T04:37:23.397" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2153" PostId="1253" Score="0" Text="I've used it to gain space where I can make a counter move, even from the ground. Main issue I find in training when not using protective gear is that strikers like myself are usually not allowed to hit full force, training partners tend to not like that.&#xA;&#xA;Best way I found at looking at this tactic is how Tony himself describes it. It is a tool to allow me to get to the other tools in my toolbox" CreationDate="2012-07-18T17:13:17.223" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2155" PostId="1256" Score="1" Text="I found eye jabs, throat strikes, and kicking to break a knee a good way as a striker to take the fight out of a grappler." CreationDate="2012-07-18T17:18:33.230" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2156" PostId="1258" Score="2" Text="Don't be there :) Seriously though this is why I got involved with Tony Blauer and his SPEAR system. We actually practice techniques where someone is coming in to grab/tackle you and make sure you gain control of the situation." CreationDate="2012-07-18T17:21:30.217" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2160" PostId="1252" Score="0" Text="Robin, that's very true, but they have to move in to grab your body, which means more opportunities for defense or counters, which are much easier to pull off if your limbs are retracted too." CreationDate="2012-07-18T18:58:51.080" UserId="583" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2165" PostId="1256" Score="1" Text="Unless you actually break the knee, just kicking at it won't do anything, and even if you do, it's got to be broken badly. I've finished a fight with a subluxed knee cap, using grappling, and it didn't impede my progress in the least. I've also taken eye gouges and throat strikes, and neither did anything. If you're too crappy at striking that you can't land a knockout, you're screwed, and if you're good enough, you're better just trying to go for the elusive one hit KO." CreationDate="2012-07-18T19:22:44.020" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2175" PostId="1256" Score="0" Text="You don't need to knockout, stunning or severe pain can work too. If I stun someone for a second that sets up another chance for strikes, them getting stuck in an OODA loop, etc. In your case when you had your sublexed knee, was this a fight for your life or one with rules? Context does make a difference." CreationDate="2012-07-18T19:37:01.223" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2176" PostId="1250" Score="0" Text="Something you might want to read: http://chirontraining.blogspot.com/2012/07/joy-of-cheating.html" CreationDate="2012-07-18T19:37:27.633" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2179" PostId="1256" Score="1" Text="You do need a knockout, and pain only works on wimps. I've been hit hard enough that I had fish legs, and I dropped to the ground. I *still* got the takedown and mount. Context makes a difference, sure, but not to the extent you believe. In general, training and fighting MMA with skilled opponents is far more challenging than fighting on the street. I work as a bouncer, no rules in the bar or on the sidewalk. It doesn't change, I always get the clinch, and it's always way easier." CreationDate="2012-07-18T19:43:16.347" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2185" PostId="1260" Score="0" Text="Wikipedia does say something! See my answer below. You just didn't look hard enough. :P" CreationDate="2012-07-18T19:59:15.127" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2187" PostId="1256" Score="1" Text="I've also stopped fights with words. Anything is within the realm of possibility, but a persistent grappler won't be stopped without grappling, or a rare knocked out cold strike before a clinch can be established. I prefer not to rely on any assumed rules while I'm working, and my caution, awareness and control at various pre-fight and post-fight stages have served me well." CreationDate="2012-07-18T20:04:27.413" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2188" PostId="1261" Score="1" Text="I don't think this fully answers the question, but perhaps I am misreading it.  This seems to say each country can enter only one judoka per weight class, but says nothing about it having to be different people for different classes." CreationDate="2012-07-18T20:11:29.997" UserId="587" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2189" PostId="1261" Score="0" Text="x2 on that. I also read the qualifications, and it merely states that they are limited to one per division. No bar that I could find against one person being eligible in two weight classes. I would tend to doubt that it is allowed, but it's not specifically addressed." CreationDate="2012-07-18T21:01:52.963" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2190" PostId="1250" Score="0" Text="@WayneInML It is indeed a very valuable lesson." CreationDate="2012-07-18T21:23:22.587" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2191" PostId="1262" Score="1" Text="If you don't wrestle, your sprawl won't be good enough. I also don't see how an uncommitted jab would deter anyone from clinching given that hard punches encourage boxers to clinch." CreationDate="2012-07-19T07:04:57.537" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2192" PostId="1262" Score="1" Text="Jabs keep you in your guard keep you protected and if you don't fully commit your wait able to move backwards and to the side of an oncoming opponent.  The only option as the attacker is to slip, take, attempt some type of arm control or shoot.  If you connect you remain able to step up move to the side and flee." CreationDate="2012-07-19T12:45:34.963" UserId="588" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2194" PostId="1250" Score="0" Text="@WayneInML I address your &quot;cheating&quot; argument in my answer. There are at least two cogent counterarguments: 1) the better wrestler or striker will be better able to cheat, and 2) some styles and competitions have objectively fewer restrictions, and their practitioners are thereby less susceptible to &quot;cheating&quot; attacks." CreationDate="2012-07-19T14:07:14.237" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2196" PostId="1265" Score="0" Text="mmm....somewhat true, and very heavily dependent on the style and how points are called in that style. WTF only rewards techniques that produce what they call &quot;trembling shock&quot;, or basically a physical reaction from the opponent. Very rarely done with hands, and grabbing is not allowed. Other point sparring competitions, contact is not necessarily required for point scoring. All depends on the style." CreationDate="2012-07-19T14:49:15.087" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2197" PostId="1263" Score="3" Text="I'd like to see what justification and case examples you have for this sweeping generalization. Are you citing market statistics or &quot;seems logical&quot;?" CreationDate="2012-07-19T14:51:59.093" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2201" PostId="1262" Score="1" Text="@RobinAshe Re: *sprawl won't be good enough* – What is &quot;good enough&quot;? If I've trained in wrestling since high school, will my sprawl be &quot;good enough&quot; against an olympic competitor? Any level of capability is subjective." CreationDate="2012-07-19T15:36:30.383" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2202" PostId="1260" Score="0" Text="This might be more appropriate for sports.SE." CreationDate="2012-07-19T16:21:28.393" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2203" PostId="1262" Score="3" Text="@stslavik There's a significant difference between a sprawl attempted by someone who has never trained wrestling or wrestled, and a technically correct sprawl (executed by someone who has trained wrestling and has wrestled) which is simply countered or overpowered by higher-level wrestling. Even if you reject the qualitative difference, there's a straightforward quantitative one: there's an enormous gulf between untrained and some training, and another between trained and successful in competition, and another between successful in competition and successful in elite competition." CreationDate="2012-07-19T17:38:32.927" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2209" PostId="1268" Score="2" Text="+1, but I feel we underestimate the possibility of encountering someone with a season or two of casual HS wrestling back when they were younger." CreationDate="2012-07-19T21:56:43.553" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2210" PostId="1268" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I never met someone with such experience (my highschool didn't even have a wrestling team). So you may have a point." CreationDate="2012-07-19T22:13:31.783" UserId="334" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2211" PostId="1219" Score="0" Text="I don't see that this necessarily has anything to do with being &quot;bouncy&quot; or your style of footwork. Do you mean that they struggle to throw other people, or are more susceptible to being thrown? In the former, lowering your center of gravity is essential, no matter how bouncy or non-bouncy you are during sparring. This is most likely just due to the fact these particular individuals don't have much experience throwing." CreationDate="2012-07-20T01:48:51.910" UserId="506" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2212" PostId="1258" Score="2" Text="I think this is a good question in some ways, and @Trevoke has tried to limit the range of answers by providing some assumptions. A lot of people here are behaving as though the question is impossible to answer. It's not. The question is simply, &quot;what can I do to avoid a grappling situation, especially a rear choke?&quot; Seeing as this is something any grappler would be doing all the time in sparring, I don't see why it can't be relatively straightforwardly answered. Even if the best answer is &quot;get them in a rear choke first.&quot;" CreationDate="2012-07-20T02:19:39.983" UserId="506" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2216" PostId="1271" Score="1" Text="Assuming you have trained against a resisting opponent prior, and know what it's like to do on a real person, then yeah, visualisation can certainly help." CreationDate="2012-07-20T04:05:54.690" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2218" PostId="1226" Score="0" Text="You should have received statue of the Crane prior to 3 kata. But some schools go in a slightly different order." CreationDate="2012-07-20T12:26:44.930" UserId="570" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2231" PostId="1242" Score="0" Text="@stslavik I have found the kanji, according to http://www.bushinjuku.com/new/index.php/traditional-japanese-arts/fusen-ryu-jujutsu.html: 不遷流柔術, or according to my transliteration using http://www.saiga-jp.com/kanji_dictionary.html, &lt;not/negation/un-&gt;&lt;move/transfer&gt;&lt;style&gt;&lt;gentle&gt;&lt;art&gt;. Fusen?=&quot;unchanging&quot;, perhaps implying &quot;eternal&quot; or &quot;fundamental&quot;?" CreationDate="2012-07-20T21:15:58.260" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2236" PostId="1276" Score="1" Text="True, &quot;add-on humanity type stuff&quot; isn't strictly martial. But beyond Wacka Wocka Fu, many martial arts schools promise to teach &quot;self-defense.&quot; It's a stickier wicket. If you aren't cognizant of human behaviors, you're not &quot;situationally aware&quot; of anything interesting. And even ace fighters who can't manage human interactions and conflicts, can't really defend themselves in the real world, where low-skill weapons abound. If martial schools are going to teach any genuine &quot;self defense,&quot; then &quot;add-on humanity type stuff&quot; isn't so very optional." CreationDate="2012-07-21T13:41:06.017" UserId="562" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2237" PostId="1276" Score="2" Text="If the only reason you're fighting is because you thought you could take the guy, your training *has* failed you." CreationDate="2012-07-22T03:44:52.673" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2238" PostId="864" Score="0" Text="I've followed your wrist-stretch instructions. Great work. Now, how do I get out of this lock?" CreationDate="2012-07-22T22:18:15.977" UserId="173" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2239" PostId="864" Score="0" Text="If you are put in that lock? That'd could make a good question on its own, since it depends a bit on where the opponent's other hand is." CreationDate="2012-07-22T22:24:39.387" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2240" PostId="1277" Score="2" Text="I thought soldiers come out *fit* and ready to *shoot a gun*? My impression is that most soldiers spend very little time on hand-to-hand. (I have absolutely no actual knowledge in this domain, however.)" CreationDate="2012-07-23T13:13:06.230" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2241" PostId="1277" Score="0" Text="IIRC, the Marines introduced martial arts into their curriculum at basic training a while back (Maybe 10 years?) and have somewhere around 30 hours in basic devoted strictly to hand to hand, close combat, knife/bayonet techniques." CreationDate="2012-07-23T14:35:30.653" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2242" PostId="1277" Score="3" Text="I think what you've read about in the &quot;6 week&quot; program is six weeks of 40-50 hours a week devoted SOLELY to learning KM, for the specialized forces. That's at least 240 hours, which if you go 3 hours a week will take you almost 2 years to accumulate. Why would you want a quickie six week in and out course in something you may hang your life on? Why do you need to be &quot;ready to fight&quot; in six weeks?" CreationDate="2012-07-23T14:51:34.297" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2243" PostId="1277" Score="2" Text="Most American Krav Maga schools are commercialized to the Nth degree, designed to retain students to continue revenue streams. When I did it back a decade ago, we were doing roughly the equivalent to what was being taught in the IMF across 4 months, about 4 hours a day, 5 days a week. It wasn't about the instructor collecting a paycheck; it was about teaching us to fight. That kind of training drills uncontrolled reaction; It wasn't useful training for a civilian. Schools have to make money; you need space to train and lights – You can't run a school on pixie dust." CreationDate="2012-07-23T15:56:33.700" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2244" PostId="1276" Score="0" Text="I will agree with Robin on that point" CreationDate="2012-07-23T16:02:22.433" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2247" PostId="1243" Score="0" Text="@Patricia I merely gathered the work of actual historians. Robin should get the credit--it's a great question that spurred my pseudo-research." CreationDate="2012-07-23T17:00:13.660" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2250" PostId="1280" Score="1" Text="Muscles can be fully recovered (ie strengthened), but once ligaments are stretched, they're stretched. I might be able to look into prolotherapy as was mentioned before, but that depends on a doctor actually thinking it's necessary. Given that, I'm looking at no more than 95% recovery, and stretched ligaments are always more likely to allow a joint dislocation in the future. Hence, why I was investigating shoulder braces." CreationDate="2012-07-23T18:04:43.950" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2251" PostId="1279" Score="2" Text="I would agree with this. It's my understanding that *everyone* in Israel, aside from a few religious subgroups, are/were IDF members, so the military/civilian distinction for Krav Maga is almost meaningless." CreationDate="2012-07-23T18:07:23.387" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2259" PostId="185" Score="1" Text="I cannot find any reference to Kano being trained in Shinden Fudo-Ryu, however, I am without access to my library. It is commonly known that Kano trained in the Kito Ryu as well as the Tenjin Shinyo Ryu. I see several Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu sources that [say](http://www.budotaijutsu.co.uk/budo_taijutsu/shinden-fudo-ryu.html) &quot;Takenaka Tetsunoke, a student of Jigoro Kano (the founder of Judo), was at one time a student of Shinden Fudô Ryû&quot;, but could you point me to your source that says Kano trained in this style?" CreationDate="2012-07-24T16:41:39.483" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2260" PostId="1260" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann It might be, but I'm okay with it here since it relates to martial arts competition. I don't think a special case needs to be made just for the Olympics." CreationDate="2012-07-24T17:10:53.227" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2261" PostId="185" Score="0" Text="I use the term reportedly because there's a great deal of conflicting information. I have notes to that effect, and I'm sure I can source it if I dig through my boxes of books in my office, but that being an aside, it's an unimportant aspect of the relevant piece of information: You can effectively use trees for isometric training of throws." CreationDate="2012-07-24T21:57:58.110" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2262" PostId="185" Score="0" Text="I agree that it's an aside; it's just an interesting note. I hadn't ever seen reports that Kano had done anything but the two JJ ryu I listed. I'd appreciate any book-digging you're able to make time for." CreationDate="2012-07-25T00:03:09.560" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2263" PostId="1283" Score="0" Text="thank you for the quick reply! I'll have to do good search to find a good *dojo* here in India!" CreationDate="2012-07-25T10:04:08.543" UserId="602" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2264" PostId="1283" Score="0" Text="I'll keep this question open to get more suggestions. BTW this is a great site! Was just thinking where to start my research in this area..." CreationDate="2012-07-25T10:08:14.823" UserId="602" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2266" PostId="1283" Score="3" Text="@indrock You could try looking at online directories for local business listings. If there's a chamber of commerce in your area, the martial arts school might be registered with them as a business. You could also try phone books, friends, see if any universities offer courses, and so on and go from there." CreationDate="2012-07-25T11:32:05.313" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2267" PostId="1285" Score="0" Text="Yes, I have the passion to have better control over my life and get piece of mind. I was thinking martial arts could do that. Thank you for the suggestion. I'll do some research on it!" CreationDate="2012-07-25T12:13:54.060" UserId="602" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2268" PostId="1283" Score="0" Text="@MattChan thank you for the suggestion! I was thinking the same!" CreationDate="2012-07-25T12:14:37.583" UserId="602" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2269" PostId="1285" Score="3" Text="I would definitely do something like tai chi if you want something to calm yourself without the physical or mental stress of doing something more demanding. Different people may like or prefer different things for stress relief. Martial arts can bring peace to the self, but that may take time and lots of training. It could also depend on the culture and environment where you study. Sometimes though you have to go out there and discover those things for yourself." CreationDate="2012-07-25T12:24:56.727" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2270" PostId="1284" Score="2" Text="You've asked in a different way, but the answer to your question is the same as given here: [Good exercises for higher side kicks?](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/93/good-exercises-for-higher-side-kicks). Note that while you may strive for a full split, not everyone can achieve it, you may have a physiological setup that precludes it." CreationDate="2012-07-25T12:31:47.360" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2272" PostId="773" Score="1" Text="This is true. It's the difference between passive flexibility (being able to sit down and do splits) and active flexibility (being able achieve splits when doing say, an axe kick)." CreationDate="2012-07-25T14:38:00.557" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2273" PostId="1261" Score="0" Text="@Steve D - I think it would be tough to qualify in 2 weight classes.  It takes a lot to get enough points in 1 division let alone 2." CreationDate="2012-07-25T21:05:42.347" UserDisplayName="user201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2274" PostId="1261" Score="0" Text="@ProfessionalAmateur: oh, I agree; I can't imagine it has ever happened.  I was just curious if it is even *allowed*." CreationDate="2012-07-26T00:58:26.880" UserId="587" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2275" PostId="366" Score="0" Text="Often kiai in Judo is to convince the ref/judge that you were doing the move so they don't score something else for your opponent." CreationDate="2012-07-26T03:41:54.587" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2276" PostId="1284" Score="3" Text="I strenuously disagree that this is an exact duplicate of another question (as suggested by the close vote). Training for full splits is substantially different from training for high kicks. There's overlap, sure, but it's 2 different questions." CreationDate="2012-07-26T04:00:05.677" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2277" PostId="1289" Score="1" Text="thank you for the suggestion. Yoga learning would be much easier I think (as it originated in India), I would also be able to locate a good trainer easily.. I'll give it a try and will definitely reply about the results.." CreationDate="2012-07-26T04:48:58.050" UserId="602" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2278" PostId="1288" Score="4" Text="I accepted this because of the open minded suggestion. But, I must admit every suggestion I got here is worth the solution to the question." CreationDate="2012-07-26T04:52:12.100" UserId="602" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2279" PostId="1283" Score="0" Text="thank you very much :) I really appreciate you taking time to answer my query. I guess I'll have to do some search, and if I find a *good dojo* I'll definitely go with martial arts :) Or have to settle down with the suggestion of John.." CreationDate="2012-07-26T04:53:53.877" UserId="602" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2280" PostId="1284" Score="1" Text="@Dave the close vote will expire if no others follow it. It's not a duplicate *question* but it would certainly be a duplicate *answer*." CreationDate="2012-07-26T10:26:50.873" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2281" PostId="1284" Score="4" Text="The close votes regard duplicate questions, not answers. Fundamentally the exercises to achieve the flexibility would have some overlap, but this question at the moment doesn't have the same context as kicking like the other does." CreationDate="2012-07-26T12:07:17.493" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2282" PostId="1290" Score="1" Text="Why should someone not train for martial arts or flexibility if that person can't deadlift or squat? What effect do deadlifts and squats have on obtaining a full split?" CreationDate="2012-07-26T12:10:23.777" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2283" PostId="1290" Score="2" Text="@MattChan &quot;People who can't put a barbell or a partner weighing at least as much as them on their shoulders and easily do a few squats are too weak to learn fighting techniques.&quot; [Article](http://www.stadion.com/column_stretch22.html), [other MA.SE answer](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/855/347). I think this is a good  answer, though a little fleshing out (ie, excerpting from Kurz re: why strength is so necessary for flexibility for splits) would make it great." CreationDate="2012-07-26T14:17:51.243" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2284" PostId="1290" Score="1" Text="There's also an element of safety involved in working on strength before flexibility. I'm genuinely confused at the downvote." CreationDate="2012-07-26T14:19:40.510" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2286" PostId="1282" Score="13" Text="Just a note, as none of us really addressed the preparation. There is none, really. If you &quot;wait until you've done X&quot; before starting, many many people never make it past X. Show up, start practicing, and see what exercises will help in the art/activity you choose. Healthy diet is healthy diet no matter what you do, it's just amounts that may differ." CreationDate="2012-07-26T14:54:12.387" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2287" PostId="364" Score="2" Text="***NB:*** An edit placed &quot;Kotodama&quot; as a &quot;proper term&quot;. Unfortunately, it did so attached to a sentence tying the term to the *Bujinkan* by a semicolon. I have seen *Kototama* in reference to buddhism, but have never seen the term in any notes or *densho* for the *Bujinkan*, and would not claim it &quot;proper&quot; in connection to any art without first confirming that against *densho*. *Kototama* is a broad term for any &quot;word of power&quot;, the belief that an utterance can have supernatural effect." CreationDate="2012-07-26T16:11:34.157" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2289" PostId="1297" Score="0" Text="1 I like, 2 is better than doing nothing, but not something I'd want to rely on, 3 knees are highly overrated for stopping a takedown unless you already have a solid Thai Clinch (which counts as passivity in wrestling, and isn't half bad for delaying a takedown itself), 4 I'd be wary of trying without testing on someone with thick forearms and great grip strength who will not let go unless they have no choice." CreationDate="2012-07-26T18:00:38.863" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2290" PostId="1295" Score="0" Text="Neither would accommodate an orthodic, although it's a moot point as of a few months ago anyway." CreationDate="2012-07-26T18:21:31.183" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2291" PostId="1297" Score="0" Text="a well placed knee to the head is a deadly weapon, ask aoiki:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDYCLThJebw&#xA;&#xA;I agree #4, with that specific technique isn't great, but there are some good options to escaping collar grips and chokes from the front." CreationDate="2012-07-26T18:54:35.470" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2292" PostId="1297" Score="1" Text="a well placed knee to the head can in some instances KO someone attempting a takedown, but far more often than not, the takedown is completed. just ask eddie alvarez (vs Chandler and Aoki 1) or Joachim Hansen (koed Imanari with a knee but got subbed by Aoki twice, Kawajiri once, decisioned by Bibiano, and clearly couldn't finish Ishida either)" CreationDate="2012-07-26T19:34:56.630" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2293" PostId="1297" Score="1" Text="it's true.  nothing works 100% of the time." CreationDate="2012-07-26T19:55:41.790" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2296" PostId="376" Score="1" Text="Loren Christian has some books and videos on speed training, might want to look into those. You need to move in, make contact, and get out again." CreationDate="2012-07-27T19:49:50.810" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2297" PostId="376" Score="0" Text="It might help if we knew which style of TKD, as the rulesets and how points are scored are markedly different between styles, unless the OP is competing NASKA/open types." CreationDate="2012-07-27T20:30:19.820" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2298" PostId="1299" Score="4" Text="Honestly, I'd rather see beginning sparrers squared up with my most experienced black belts. The black belts *should* have enough control to not knock their opponent silly, and be able to give them openings for them to take advantage of. They can also evade the attacks, and can teach control and focus. I always watch VERY closely when my beginning sparrers get matched together, simply because they haven't learned control to a great extent yet, and their techniques tend to be wilder and more uncontrolled as a general rule." CreationDate="2012-07-27T20:39:13.757" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2299" PostId="1300" Score="0" Text="Unless I'm mistaken you're referring to my answer. I'd just like to clarify that I'm not a doctor, although it's quite possible that someone else who is a doctor has made the same suggestion." CreationDate="2012-07-27T21:19:26.573" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2301" PostId="1303" Score="2" Text="I would disagree about no preparation required. Maybe fifty years ago this was true, but nowadays most people don't have a good minimal fitness and strength level. Obviously whether you'd need to do some weight training first would depend on how physically active you were prior." CreationDate="2012-07-29T14:25:32.313" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2302" PostId="1299" Score="0" Text="@JohnP, Yeah I agree, usually sparring with other beginners means a lot of uncontrolled and unpredictable movements, which increases the risk of injury. I think the problem is also partially that all the schools in my district are pretty ghetto, and the trainers aren't really too concencerned with beginners. Consequentially there isn't really a lot of coaching for beginners, and they're left to find everything out themselves. I haven't been able to find a better gym yet, which sucks." CreationDate="2012-07-30T07:19:39.327" UserDisplayName="user474" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2303" PostId="1304" Score="0" Text="Breathing helps you be relaxed thus you will bounce more than crash during break falling." CreationDate="2012-07-30T10:46:31.260" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2304" PostId="1299" Score="0" Text="@Samuel - Honestly, I would stop boxing until you can find a better gym. No boxing is better than seeing stars three times a session. Just look at all the pro athletes with post concussion syndrome and other problems." CreationDate="2012-07-30T13:48:10.913" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2305" PostId="1304" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion My understanding is that it goes beyond that, namely, to the method described in [this Bullshido thread](http://www.bullshido.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-76833-p-2.html): &quot;Envision a balloon filled up, held closed by your fingers, still untied. Lay the balloon on the floor and stomp your foot on it. If you hold your fingers tightly, the balloon may burst. If you keep your finger grip loose (breathing out as you break the fall), the air will naturally be expelled, and the balloon is fine. (I am not in any way suggesting that your diaphragm will burst, it's just an analogy.)&quot;" CreationDate="2012-07-30T14:40:21.517" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2307" PostId="180" Score="0" Text="Besides, you get some practice falling and rolling on a surface that is less perfect than the dojo floor. Outdoor training is always worthwhile and some students really do react differently out there. And some don't." CreationDate="2012-07-30T18:34:07.737" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2308" PostId="1303" Score="3" Text="When I rejoined martial arts after years away, one motivation was that wife had suffered a brain injury. She was having problems even walking. *Terrible* balance, and not great strength or cardio fitness post-convalescence. Her doctor recommended marital arts practice. The training indeed gave her the opportunity, means, and motivation to improve. If she can train successfully, almost anyone can. I've never seen a modern school you needed to already be fit to join. It helps, sure. But required? No, IMO. Not at all." CreationDate="2012-07-30T19:11:30.487" UserId="562" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2309" PostId="1303" Score="1" Text="I'd question if she was able to do anything with that physical condition if anyone in the club, aside from a few with natural talent, would actually know how to fight. It's certainly possible to engage in physical activity starting from scratch, but to be a good fighter (ostensibly the goal of most people taking martial arts) a minimum of physical ability is required." CreationDate="2012-07-30T22:15:20.133" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2310" PostId="1290" Score="1" Text="@DaveLiepmann - If I had to guess, I'd say because it needs more elaboration. Otherwise, it's just kind of a non-answer (not unlike saying something along the lines of &quot;Google it&quot;), and one that many people would probably disagree with (in my experience, and what I've seen around here, the opinion of a lot of people is that technique often trumps raw strength in a large number of cases; why, then, should being able to squat and DL one's own bodyweight be a requirement, let alone a prerequisite?)." CreationDate="2012-07-30T23:07:34.040" UserId="341" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2311" PostId="1290" Score="1" Text="Because technique is nothing without strength. The people who realise that, and train accordingly, are always better fighters than those who believe the myth that technique is all you need." CreationDate="2012-07-30T23:30:43.237" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2312" PostId="1306" Score="2" Text="Your question as it is, is a bit vague. Can you elaborate more on the types of workouts you are doing, like sprints, weights, etc? A more detailed workout schedule would more than likely produce better results." CreationDate="2012-07-31T04:48:55.787" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2313" PostId="1306" Score="1" Text="More specificity is better than asking a general and broad question. Is this something inherent to martial arts (or a particular one)? The way it is currently asked makes it sound like the [Physical Fitness Stack Exchange](http://fitness.stackexchange.com) would be a better outlet for this type of question." CreationDate="2012-07-31T11:36:23.193" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2314" PostId="1306" Score="1" Text="how often are you training?  how long are your training sessions?  how intense?  do you have any dietary restrictions? I'm not a nutritionist, but i could write a novel on this topic, just need more details" CreationDate="2012-07-31T12:58:19.720" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2315" PostId="1308" Score="0" Text="I was under the impression that no amount of waza-ari would add up to an ippon either. Is that an outdated rule?" CreationDate="2012-07-31T16:49:47.563" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2316" PostId="1306" Score="1" Text="It shouldn't happen much if you're doing light contact, but I have this vague notion in the back of my head that one of the B vitamins is important for recovering from bruises more quickly." CreationDate="2012-07-31T16:51:36.843" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2317" PostId="1308" Score="1" Text="I don't think that has ever been the rule, as far back as I can remember (about 15 years), 2 waza aris equaled ippon." CreationDate="2012-07-31T17:12:50.103" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2319" PostId="376" Score="2" Text="Get close to your opponent so that their size becomes a liability." CreationDate="2012-07-27T18:34:18.263" UserId="607" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2320" PostId="1303" Score="4" Text="We'll have to agree to disagree here. One of the best, most fit martial artists I know--now 3rd degree and head instructor of a school--was fat and unfit when he joined. Those who join from the military or a high level of fitness clearly start at a higher level. But I've seen a number of average to below-average fitness students progress well. The asker wants to reduce stress and &quot;achieve peace of mind, and control over my life&quot; rather than &quot;be a good fighter.&quot; I see no reason he can't &quot;just go.&quot;" CreationDate="2012-07-31T18:14:55.040" UserId="562" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2321" PostId="1303" Score="1" Text="Rank doesn't tell you anything about how good a fighter someone is. Someone might have advanced in rank due to dedication to the art, or because they had good technical demonstration, or because they had a knack for teaching and coaching. While yes the question doesn't preclude doing an art that won't really teach you how to fight, if that's your goal, you can also pick up dance." CreationDate="2012-07-31T18:26:04.043" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2322" PostId="1306" Score="0" Text="Eat real food, might go a little more carb heavy in the form of sweet potatoes and yams. Creatine Monohydrate can help with recovery. And get plenty of sleep." CreationDate="2012-07-31T19:24:46.757" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2323" PostId="1306" Score="0" Text="Good points - updated to fit feedback.  The question around the fitness SE is a fair one; to be honest, I'm not sure.  In my mind, this seems like a common topic for martial artists and I noticed that we didn't have any questions on the topic, so I thought I'd throw one out and see what happened (and heck, I'm genuinely curious about other people's opinion on the topic)." CreationDate="2012-08-01T01:19:14.707" UserId="338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2324" PostId="1306" Score="0" Text="@RobinAshe - I think vitamin K is more for helping prevent/heal bruising, but I could be convinced otherwise :D" CreationDate="2012-08-01T02:16:37.900" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2325" PostId="1308" Score="0" Text="@RobinAshe No number of yuko or koka (an outdated sub-yuko score) can add up to anything greater than themselves; waza-ari have always added up to ippon as long as there has been judo." CreationDate="2012-08-01T02:50:10.713" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2326" PostId="1308" Score="0" Text="Ahh, that's what I was thinking of." CreationDate="2012-08-01T03:37:12.217" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2328" PostId="1311" Score="0" Text="a solid post, but i really have to disagree with : &quot;It's also common for judoka to view groundwork as more tiring or time-consuming than stand-up work. Many players avoid groundwork for that reason.&quot;   i don't know anyone who thinks it's more tiring,  it really is just the lack of time allowed that deters most judoka from engaging in ground work.  And the BJJ style triangle is ONLY called for being illegal if you pull down on the head.  lots of bjj people can finish with out that." CreationDate="2012-08-01T12:49:22.330" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2329" PostId="1312" Score="0" Text="I don't understand *why* it doesn't make sense? *Point of fact* – Actuality, Occurrence. Whether the time ran out or was reset, the point was scored while time was on the clock. Frankly, after fencing through high school, I believe she should have remained *en garde* until the match was called, time or no." CreationDate="2012-08-01T17:23:20.510" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2330" PostId="1312" Score="1" Text="@stslavik To a non-fencer, the term is jargon. I understand that it is analogous to normal use after your description, but as an outsider, I certainly don't see the technical implications. That said, I think the OP needs to be more explicit with the background. What is the controversy? What happened, and how is &quot;point of fact&quot; a relevant term?" CreationDate="2012-08-01T17:39:49.880" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2331" PostId="1312" Score="0" Text="It doesn't make sense because the timing error is an actuality and occurrence as well." CreationDate="2012-08-01T19:47:46.023" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2332" PostId="1313" Score="1" Text="What is the surface like in your living room? Carpet with a pad, tile, wood?" CreationDate="2012-08-01T20:19:34.907" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2333" PostId="1314" Score="0" Text="Horse stall mats (should not need to say new ones) also can work." CreationDate="2012-08-01T21:43:52.400" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2334" PostId="1315" Score="0" Text="In this particular instance, it was epee rather than foil or saber, and simultaneous touches cancel each other out." CreationDate="2012-08-01T23:01:53.830" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2335" PostId="1313" Score="1" Text="Your BJJ club teaches takedowns? Is the instructor a skilled wrestler or at least a brown belt in judo as well?" CreationDate="2012-08-01T23:07:25.323" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2336" PostId="1313" Score="0" Text="Be aware that asking for [shopping recommendations](http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/11/qa-is-hard-lets-go-shopping/) can be problematic: price, locale, budget, etc." CreationDate="2012-08-02T03:22:24.453" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2337" PostId="1317" Score="5" Text="Hum, there are at least two questions there and one of them (concerning Karate) invites opinions.  I would rephrase the question to make it more focused." CreationDate="2012-08-02T08:26:39.177" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2339" PostId="1317" Score="1" Text="I think this question needs to define &quot;full contact&quot; karate, as well as what 'traditional' TKD is or looks like. Otherwise there's no way to ensure that we're talking about the same differences between Olympic TKD and non-Olympic." CreationDate="2012-08-02T13:51:57.160" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2340" PostId="1318" Score="0" Text="The Olympics have a limited number of sports, but multiple events within that sport. Like cycling, which has track, road, time trial and BMX disciplines, Athletics which is all track/field, etc. No more sport categories could be added, but they could change TKD to be Martial Arts and lump boxing, TKD and Judo under it, then be able to add other disciplines." CreationDate="2012-08-02T14:26:02.590" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2341" PostId="1319" Score="0" Text="x2 on this. ATA has a Spring and Fall Nationals each year, and Zebra provides the mats which you can purchase at a discount after it's over." CreationDate="2012-08-02T14:47:58.333" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2342" PostId="1313" Score="0" Text="@MattChan I will keep that in mind as I begin to use this and other stack sites. I guess I was just hoping to get names of other websites that martial artists use to buy cheap equipment such as grappling mats. Or to get other alternatives for a grappling mat such as what Wayne suggests below--horse stall mats (at least to explore)." CreationDate="2012-08-02T14:53:31.690" UserId="572" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2343" PostId="1313" Score="0" Text="@JohnP the living room is carpeted." CreationDate="2012-08-02T14:54:16.650" UserId="572" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2344" PostId="1313" Score="0" Text="@Robin. I'm not sure." CreationDate="2012-08-02T14:55:28.757" UserId="572" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2345" PostId="1316" Score="0" Text="LOL. I actually was contemplating that last night.  I knew they were thin but didn't realize how thin they were until yesterday. But we do need to also practice takedowns so that's not going to work." CreationDate="2012-08-02T15:09:04.293" UserId="572" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2346" PostId="1313" Score="0" Text="If it's carpeted with a typical carpet pad, then you *should* be able to get away with some of the 1/2&quot; puzzle mats such as nedlud suggested. I initially had the same reservations as Robin, throws and takedowns need a good instructor to be done safely." CreationDate="2012-08-02T15:12:38.973" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2347" PostId="1313" Score="0" Text="I wonder if there is anything at Home Depot that would work like carpet padding. This is a thought I just had and will go check it out in the next couple of days." CreationDate="2012-08-02T15:13:07.517" UserId="572" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2348" PostId="1313" Score="0" Text="@JohnP I'm not sure if I can still consider the cheapo kids puzzle mats after seeing them last night. The carpet in our living room has minimal padding and is more on the thin side to begin with. The takedowns I am talking about, for now, only include grabing your partners leg, turning your head in and taking them down or even the basic foot behind your oponent's leg trip." CreationDate="2012-08-02T15:22:54.557" UserId="572" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2349" PostId="1315" Score="0" Text="@RobinAshe - Oh, yah, thanks for the clarification. I missed that (The epee vs foil/saber)." CreationDate="2012-08-02T15:32:23.850" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2350" PostId="1321" Score="0" Text="Which leg behind which leg? Same or opposite, inside or outside? What are the grips? (This is most likely a judo throw: osotogari, a Gracie-style kosotogake, or kouchigari. If you're not sure, look around at [judoinfo.com's library of images](http://judoinfo.com/new/techniques/animated-throws). Also [here](http://judoinfo.com/new/techniques/throwing-techniques/296-throwing-techniques).)" CreationDate="2012-08-02T15:47:58.370" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2351" PostId="1321" Score="0" Text="This is the classic bully take down. For example I put my left leg behind your right leg and push you over it. Thanks for the image library links." CreationDate="2012-08-02T16:00:34.260" UserId="572" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2352" PostId="1322" Score="4" Text="You could probably get some mileage out of examining the question from the opposite side: [how does one maintain mount](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/465/how-to-best-maintain-mount-position)?" CreationDate="2012-08-02T16:01:03.990" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2353" PostId="1321" Score="0" Text="I'm still not sure I'm clear on what's going on. Are they close, or grabbing the gi sleeve? Does the thrower stay standing or end up somewhere on the ground, and if so, where?" CreationDate="2012-08-02T16:03:08.807" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2355" PostId="1318" Score="0" Text="They could, but Greco-Roman Wrestling is already on the chopping block due to similarity to Freestyle, I doubt they'd add another one in when they're considering taking one out." CreationDate="2012-08-02T16:13:14.010" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2356" PostId="1321" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann It's a sloppy kosotogari/kosotogake, with the goal to go straight to full mount." CreationDate="2012-08-02T16:23:47.757" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2357" PostId="1318" Score="0" Text="I agree, I was just outlining the possibilities. I would be very surprised if they had both karate and tkd. I could easily see tkd being replaced by karate, especially since tkd has been a borderline sport the past couple olympics anyway (Sportsmanship and other issues)." CreationDate="2012-08-02T16:57:16.967" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2358" PostId="1325" Score="3" Text="That scenario Aesopian presents is only true if your instructor has a haphazard teaching style. If you have a good idea of what will be taught next, or there's a coherent theme to what's being taught over 1-2 weeks, you can study video instructionals and books covering the same material, but explained in a different way. If your instructor sucks at explaining things, this can be particularly useful, as ultimately the biggest benefit of attending class is having resisting partners to train with." CreationDate="2012-08-02T17:41:55.007" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2359" PostId="1326" Score="0" Text="I was going to suggest double underhooks as well, but then it occurred to me that I fold people who have double underhooks on me almost as easily as if I have them in. I think hip distance is much more important, and I find that easier to maintain with overhooks." CreationDate="2012-08-02T17:48:22.967" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2360" PostId="1326" Score="0" Text="@RobinAshe I see your point, but in my meager experience, kosotogake without double underhooks relies on dramatically superior wrestling skills in general. (Specifically, exploiting bad footwork or using double overhooks to crushing their underhooks.) Would you agree?" CreationDate="2012-08-02T17:54:00.753" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2361" PostId="1326" Score="0" Text="Possible, although I'm also leaning towards underhooks not being as effective against taller people because you can't force their arms up, so if the guy has 4&quot;-6&quot; of height on you, the double underhooks won't really kill his ability to trip you." CreationDate="2012-08-02T18:58:43.950" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2362" PostId="1321" Score="0" Text="sounds almost like tani o toshi" CreationDate="2012-08-02T19:27:32.330" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2363" PostId="1321" Score="0" Text="@Patricia That was my thinking as well. Can't tell if it's taniotoshi or kosotogake with the current description. Honestly I suspected osotogari despite the left/right description." CreationDate="2012-08-02T19:50:56.223" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2364" PostId="1321" Score="1" Text="it's probably ko soto gari, i see it a lot in bjj." CreationDate="2012-08-02T19:51:30.507" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2365" PostId="1327" Score="1" Text="Good point, I had totally forgotten my favorite counter to that technique! That's what I get for not going to judo for a month." CreationDate="2012-08-02T19:51:45.677" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2368" PostId="1321" Score="1" Text="@Dave yeah, its pretty much a kosotogake. It varies sometimes the quickly close the distance or grab the gi sleeve. the thrower usually stays standing" CreationDate="2012-08-03T21:43:52.750" UserId="572" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2369" PostId="589" Score="0" Text="Effective for what exactly?" CreationDate="2012-08-04T10:38:54.397" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2371" PostId="1154" Score="2" Text="Following up - water was definitely not stable enough (the wave motion really made it unstable when striking the top half of the target). Sand has been very effective and you only get significant rocking with full power strikes at the top quarter of the target (though even then it's not tipped)." CreationDate="2012-08-06T12:53:44.587" UserId="338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2373" PostId="589" Score="0" Text="By effective I mean how it stands when compared to other martial arts. Like in terms of technique, form, application, etc." CreationDate="2012-08-06T15:01:02.253" UserId="288" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2378" PostId="1334" Score="0" Text="How does that work for roundhouse kicks?" CreationDate="2012-08-06T22:02:56.250" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2381" PostId="1334" Score="0" Text="As we use the ball of the foot for roundhouse kicks, it works just fine.  Plus it REALLY works accuracy." CreationDate="2012-08-07T00:54:13.800" UserId="621" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2382" PostId="589" Score="2" Text="I'm not sure I understand what efficacy you are seeking. It's still a very broad question as it is. You're enumerating criteria for comparison, but I don't see the reason *why* you want this comparison. I'm guessing it is the application of such techniques and forms, but is it for sparring, fitness, self-defense, or something else? You should edit your question and add narrow down those elements. If you're asking for a plain comparison, that's fine." CreationDate="2012-08-07T01:09:37.720" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2383" PostId="425" Score="0" Text="A [vuvuzela](http://www.vuvuzela.fm/) will help you practice your avoidance skills...  &lt;/flame::on&gt;" CreationDate="2012-08-07T08:58:52.670" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2384" PostId="997" Score="1" Text="Kudo's for pubmed citations - excellent." CreationDate="2012-08-07T11:14:56.573" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2385" PostId="1334" Score="0" Text="For those of us that use our shins for round house type of kicks this would be a less desirable position. :)" CreationDate="2012-08-07T16:40:11.467" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2386" PostId="425" Score="0" Text="@Chris Hmmm. Martial arts helped *me* to sort out my feet on the dance floor..." CreationDate="2012-08-07T18:06:54.230" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2387" PostId="65" Score="0" Text="As a ref I'm always frustrated by the short blood time. It's never quite enough, so the bleeding almost always starts again. Not sure how many people will be willing to try the tampon method though." CreationDate="2012-08-07T19:10:45.283" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2388" PostId="45" Score="0" Text="Shut up is probably the most important part, whenever I try to give the advice nicely they always mess it up." CreationDate="2012-08-07T19:12:15.330" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2390" PostId="1342" Score="3" Text="Great question. This claim is originally based on specific people (the Gracies) citing specific studies (by the LAPD as I recall). I have notes/links on my other computer and will see what I can put together later. There's a broader claim, separate from that specific one, but that would be harder to prove. (This is one area where using MMA results would, in my mind, be misguided.)" CreationDate="2012-08-08T13:53:52.733" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2391" PostId="1345" Score="0" Text="Nice answer; that might be the source I was thinking of..." CreationDate="2012-08-08T17:48:14.150" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2392" PostId="1345" Score="0" Text="Though honestly it blows my mind that the Marines teach the armbar from mount in that document. In my mind it's one of the worst options in the contexts Marines would likely be in, with the goals they would likely have." CreationDate="2012-08-08T17:52:39.480" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2393" PostId="1282" Score="7" Text="Plus one to JohnP's comment. On my dojo's website, he has a question under the FAQ... &quot;How should I get in shape before starting?&quot; His answer is `&quot;You don't get in shape to train, you train to get in shape.&quot;`" CreationDate="2012-08-08T18:24:33.983" UserId="167" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2394" PostId="1312" Score="0" Text="Can someone point out a specific article that discusses the term &quot;point of fact&quot; in context of this controversy?" CreationDate="2012-08-08T18:38:30.343" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2397" PostId="1342" Score="0" Text="I disagree about using MMA results being misguided. You can look at what happens when fighter A wants to keep the fight standing and fighter B wants to take the fight to the ground (fighter B gets his wish, absent strong wrestling skills for fighter A). You also see what happens when both fighters have a standup skill set and wish to (ostensibly) keep the fight standing. The moment it goes south for one of them, they take the fight to the ground so they can win." CreationDate="2012-08-08T18:45:39.990" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2399" PostId="1312" Score="0" Text="http://www.statesman.com/sports/olympic-fencing-officials-say-appeal-had-no-chance-2425250.html" CreationDate="2012-08-08T18:50:09.143" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2403" PostId="1342" Score="2" Text="@RobinAshe Good point; I should've been more specific. Statistics on the *frequency* of the fight going to the ground in MMA aren't very useful with regards to real-life scenarios for a number of reasons. As you note, the *mechanisms* one can see in MMA are absolutely golden and should be taken to heart." CreationDate="2012-08-08T19:05:13.750" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2404" PostId="1342" Score="1" Text="@DaveLiepmann Still though, while looking at MMA fights alone is a problem, the fact that frequency of going to the ground in an MMA fight is consistent with frequency of going to the ground in a street fight/assault is still quite telling. A *lot* of fights between untrained opponents hit the ground, again with 'most' being 51% or more, most fights do go to the ground." CreationDate="2012-08-08T19:08:32.717" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2415" PostId="1342" Score="0" Text="Is there a specific type of fighting you're asking about? MMA? Random street fights?" CreationDate="2012-08-09T02:22:13.213" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2416" PostId="589" Score="0" Text="Yes you are right I am asking here for plain comparison between Kalaripayattu and KungFu." CreationDate="2012-08-09T04:33:36.923" UserId="288" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2417" PostId="1342" Score="0" Text="@MattChan I read it as unscripted violence faced by civilians, i.e. the fights one might find oneself in." CreationDate="2012-08-09T14:42:28.157" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2421" PostId="330" Score="1" Text="You don't want a martial arts class, you want specific training. Bodyguard, LEO-oriented suspect control courses, etc. would be *substantially* more useful." CreationDate="2012-08-09T20:38:32.737" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2422" PostId="1122" Score="0" Text="Good call on practicing lots of martial arts, but I didn't see any BJJ in there. Sure there were Jujigatames, but the entries were all TJJ." CreationDate="2012-08-10T00:24:37.827" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2423" PostId="1342" Score="2" Text="Really, any evidence we can get our hands on would be illuminating. In the answer, it gives us a study of security camera footage and breaks down the number of fights which &quot;go to the ground.&quot; This might not be robust enough to generalise to all the situations we might face, but it's still useful evidence." CreationDate="2012-08-10T01:41:15.570" UserId="506" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2424" PostId="589" Score="4" Text="@MattChan When someone asks about effectiveness of a martial art, I would say that without further context, we should assume they are asking for effectiveness *at fighting*, that is, for defeating other human beings in violent contexts." CreationDate="2012-08-10T17:17:13.410" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2425" PostId="645" Score="1" Text="@Rophuine certainly that's a good thing to look for, but what you also need to take into account is that some martial arts condition students to be submissive to higher ranks. That's even harder to tell, but generally what you'll see if that hasn't been done is a few talented lower ranking students able to do well or beat the majority of higher ranked students, while in general rank and ability line up as expected." CreationDate="2012-08-11T01:58:09.887" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2426" PostId="643" Score="0" Text="@Rophuine I fully agree. Including a fitness component in classes just gets redundant for those who are actually serious about improving it and developing it (I've seen a few talented martial artists leave some classes because too much of the class was devoted to conditioning, which they were already doing on their own time, likely explaining why they were that good)." CreationDate="2012-08-11T02:00:17.013" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2428" PostId="1356" Score="0" Text="Could you paste and quote the information from that site and use the link as a reference?" CreationDate="2012-08-12T05:21:20.817" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2430" PostId="1314" Score="0" Text="@WayneInML how expensive are they? Horses are pretty expensive,  I'd expect related equipment to be similarly cost prohibitive" CreationDate="2012-08-12T06:06:28.807" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2431" PostId="1314" Score="1" Text="You want to be careful with that.  Some stall mats may be soft enough, but most I have seen are very solid rubber; soft for a horses hoof is not the same as soft to fall on." CreationDate="2012-08-12T21:30:52.157" UserId="638" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2432" PostId="1314" Score="0" Text="I'd have to check, but I remember when seeing them on sale the price was pretty reasonable. I'd have to check the prices. And yes, always good to verify that they meet your hardness/softness needs. The ones I've seen I've found &quot;acceptable&quot; for my uses, YMMV." CreationDate="2012-08-13T16:21:07.317" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2433" PostId="1088" Score="1" Text="What do you consider to be 'wood'? Rattan is very light and very strong, and not very expensive." CreationDate="2012-06-07T19:30:14.933" UserId="84" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2434" PostId="1088" Score="2" Text="A tree made it." CreationDate="2012-06-07T19:41:43.343" UserId="9" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2435" PostId="1088" Score="3" Text="I'm not sure if Rattan is considered wood or a member of the grass family, like bamboo.  But it makes a nice alternative to hardwoods.  It makes nice staffs and even walking canes." CreationDate="2012-06-07T20:49:45.443" UserId="84" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2436" PostId="1055" Score="0" Text="It sounds like you are not wrapping them tight enough." CreationDate="2012-06-05T20:24:42.063" UserId="443" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2437" PostId="1281" Score="0" Text="I noticed that same oddity. He wants it to go quicker, but complains about the instruction being rushed. Little bit of a schism there." CreationDate="2012-08-14T12:09:17.330" UserId="167" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2438" PostId="1277" Score="2" Text="You're complaining that it feels rushed, but you want it to go quicker? How does that work? Quicker will mean ***MORE*** rushed." CreationDate="2012-08-14T12:10:33.570" UserId="167" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2439" PostId="1360" Score="0" Text="Hi Dave; you mention about adding meta-data etc. I don't know how you keep your notes, but I've found [Springpad](http://www.springpad.com/) very useful for this. I can review the notes any time on my phone or tablet, and can tag and categorize and add any associated media there may be. Of course note-taking tends to be a very personal experience and technique, but you may want to check it out." CreationDate="2012-08-14T14:03:20.057" UserId="167" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2441" PostId="1360" Score="1" Text="@eidylon I use a variety, including Evernote, but most things end up in a fairly-heavily customized wiki with a variety of front ends that include a mind mapping interface and a very configurable search/autocomplete mechanism." CreationDate="2012-08-14T14:37:26.070" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2443" PostId="1357" Score="2" Text="Can we rephrase the question slightly to make it less of a poll of the community?" CreationDate="2012-08-14T14:57:01.703" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2444" PostId="1360" Score="0" Text="What style is practiced in your school where it's encouraged? What's the student/teacher ratio?" CreationDate="2012-08-14T15:03:22.663" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2445" PostId="1360" Score="0" Text="Wow! Sounds like you've got it quite under control! What platform is the mind-mapping/search stuff built on? Did you build your own or is it something that is out there?" CreationDate="2012-08-14T15:11:04.070" UserId="167" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2446" PostId="1360" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Our school teaches the Dan Inosanto curriculum. S/T ratio varies pretty wildly, I've had a few classes where it's just me, assistant instructors, and the head instructor. Larger classes might have a ratio closer to 1/6-1/10 depending on the class and day." CreationDate="2012-08-14T15:24:51.830" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2447" PostId="1360" Score="2" Text="@eidylon Gathering, tracking, recalling, etc. info is a bit of a hobby, and it's at least part of what I do as a programmer. The MM interface is a gutted FreeMind, although when I'm done about the only thing left from it will be the renderer. Search is built on a variety of autocompletes (work in progress), Lucene/Solr, some clustering/similarity stuff that I'll switch to Mahout. Wiki right now is XWiki but I don't know how long that will last. Will use Alfresco for XMS. Goal is to make weaving info from disparate sources intuitive and fast, and be able to retrieve/view same in a unified way." CreationDate="2012-08-14T15:28:27.487" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2448" PostId="1360" Score="1" Text="If you integrated the comments into your answer it would be a great answer." CreationDate="2012-08-14T15:32:35.560" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2449" PostId="1359" Score="0" Text="That's awesome. Any chance you could get a pic or two?" CreationDate="2012-08-14T15:35:28.567" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2450" PostId="1357" Score="0" Text="&quot;What are the disadvantages or advantages of taking notes after class?&quot;" CreationDate="2012-08-14T15:51:03.367" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2451" PostId="1282" Score="1" Text="Pick your schedule and stick to it. I'm also a young IT professional and I've had no trouble maintaining a regular practice schedule. Location makes a huge difference. Pick a good place to train either near where you live or where you work, whichever you foresee remaining the same for a longer period of time." CreationDate="2012-08-14T16:34:19.333" UserId="271" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2452" PostId="1359" Score="0" Text="There wasn't anything but a very rough sketch of how to assemble the parts in the piece, it didn't add much to the description." CreationDate="2012-08-14T16:43:36.330" UserId="638" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2453" PostId="1361" Score="0" Text="yeah, I find with BJJ I just find the quantity of techniques and the variations of each technique and transitions is just huge,  and writing some of this down is proving reasonably useful,  but I find I'm ending up with quite a big list of things that I'm not quite sure how I can better organise things." CreationDate="2012-08-14T19:51:53.223" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2454" PostId="1361" Score="0" Text="@KeithNicholas Since most of the benefit for many people is in the writing (not the organizing or reading), it might not matter. Jot down the technique of the day after class, review your pile of notes occasionally, and chat with your instructor about ways to chunk the information or subset the most important techniques. (For instance, Marcelo is very particular about a small list of broadly-defined guard passes.) Or, start a tumblog and use tags diligently." CreationDate="2012-08-14T19:55:14.657" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2456" PostId="1357" Score="0" Text="you don't... MA notes = bad..." CreationDate="2012-08-14T22:57:59.570" UserId="12" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2457" PostId="1357" Score="0" Text="@Ephraim whats your reasoning?" CreationDate="2012-08-14T23:20:06.297" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2458" PostId="1357" Score="2" Text="I guess it really depends on the person, but I have always been taught that it is impossible to learn Martial arts in theory. The only way to learn is by doing. Same reason Martial arts books can never replace real classes. I guess it depends on the person though. It is possible that it could help you practice at home, but notes are usually used for studying for a written test. In order to be a skilled Martial artist, you have be able to do things in practice, not just in theory. Notes seem to be used for studying theory." CreationDate="2012-08-14T23:29:35.523" UserId="12" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2459" PostId="1357" Score="0" Text="@Ephraim  I just use them as mental jogs, often in BJJ you get a technique, then you get variation 1,2,3,4 ... often I find myself going, oh, I remember a few months ago we covered this situation and there was a variation to handle when my opponent does X while I'm trying to do Y." CreationDate="2012-08-15T01:33:53.447" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2461" PostId="1357" Score="2" Text="@Ephraim Your comment would make for a great answer. I disagree on some points but it's something that should be one of the answers." CreationDate="2012-08-15T14:09:10.320" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2462" PostId="34" Score="3" Text="Who is claiming that it does not, and on what basis?" CreationDate="2012-08-15T17:58:44.810" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2463" PostId="38" Score="0" Text="@stslavik What was their basis for saying so?" CreationDate="2012-08-15T18:00:40.843" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2464" PostId="1367" Score="1" Text="@closevoter-- could you discuss your reasoning? For the OP-- when are these discussions occurring? During technique, sparring, after class, in the changing room?" CreationDate="2012-08-15T20:37:50.983" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2465" PostId="1367" Score="2" Text="&quot;Should&quot;? Who is the arbiter? What's the context? Which MAs use politics and/or religion as part of their training? I don't understand the question." CreationDate="2012-08-15T21:13:01.807" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2466" PostId="1366" Score="2" Text="If anyone can bring solid historical evidence (or even solid oral history, e.g. &quot;Master Po in 1600 wrote down that he put a lot of close-range techniques in the style because he fights on rice paddies&quot;) to bear on this one, I'd start and assign a bounty. I'd love to avoid a bevy of answers based on hearsay and conjecture." CreationDate="2012-08-15T21:54:47.797" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2467" PostId="1369" Score="0" Text="Yup, their school, their rules. My previous karate school it was not uncommon for political talk with the head instructor before class started. Also talked about poker playing too," CreationDate="2012-08-15T22:04:19.587" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2468" PostId="1370" Score="1" Text="And these vast distances and genetic and cultural differences would suggest disparity generally, not towards any specific types of disparity, e.g. such-and-such techniques for the south and such-and-such stances for the north?" CreationDate="2012-08-16T01:07:07.983" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2469" PostId="1367" Score="0" Text="@DaveNewton I'm confused too. I was thinking just general politics and religion conversations for chit-chat. The subject is way too broad. I don't think question is very constructive (or related to martial arts per the scope in the [faq]) as it is currently." CreationDate="2012-08-16T02:40:24.350" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2473" PostId="1373" Score="0" Text="What concerns me there is they don't have any Judo gis listed. Judo requires sleeves to be a certain length, so while a gi might fit fine and let you move as you need to, if the sleeves and pants are too short, you're SOL. Certainly can't compete and training partners won't be too happy about it either. Aikido gis go the opposite way from what I've seen, keeping the sleeves short to facilitate practicing wrist locks." CreationDate="2012-08-16T11:30:50.467" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2477" PostId="1367" Score="2" Text="Could you define your terms?  Do you mean *politics* as *martial art organisation(s) politics*?  Do you mean *religion* as in *boggly stuff such a ki/chi and other magic within martial arts*?  If so, could you edit your question a little as I think that would be very much on  topic.  If, on the other hand, you refer to politics and religion as outside of a martial art context, then you question is overly broad." CreationDate="2012-08-16T13:41:46.293" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2478" PostId="1372" Score="0" Text="Unfortunately BJJ is the only arena that I've seen gi specifically tailored for women. I'm not too familiar with the topic, though. :)" CreationDate="2012-08-16T14:06:30.927" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2479" PostId="1374" Score="1" Text="So you're opposed to the bevy of Christian karate in the Bible belt? What about Buddhism in karate, or Daoism in judo? Where's the line on religion?" CreationDate="2012-08-16T14:07:43.390" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2480" PostId="1372" Score="4" Text="I wonder if you could take the dogi to an experienced tailor and explain to them what you need. Those kinds of people would probably be able to pull something off for you." CreationDate="2012-08-16T15:06:52.210" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2481" PostId="1374" Score="0" Text="Aikido and Omotokyo would be another example..." CreationDate="2012-08-16T15:31:44.340" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2482" PostId="1374" Score="2" Text="Religion and philosophy are some of the main influences in the development and history of martial arts. You don't have to subscribe to them if you don't want to, but you can't just absolutely and completely ignore those aspects if you are training in one of those particular arts." CreationDate="2012-08-16T15:41:21.260" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2483" PostId="1376" Score="2" Text="Why wouldn't it be? People expand their martial arts study to first aid, crisis counselling, history...it's just personal preference. I guess I'm saying this question is overly broad or subjective." CreationDate="2012-08-16T16:05:50.280" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2484" PostId="1374" Score="0" Text="@MattChan &quot;if you are training in one of those particular arts&quot; is the key phrase. One's rejection might lead one to train in a non-religious art." CreationDate="2012-08-16T16:17:08.597" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2485" PostId="1374" Score="0" Text="Absolutely I oppose these, though I don't mean to say they shouldn't exist.  I don't believe that any student should blindly follow their instructors, just as much as I don't believe instructors should require their students to do so.  Also, I don't believe that such information is necessary for training; while it may lead to a deeper understanding of the art and its history/culture, it does not by necessity mean better technique (though of course it's possible)." CreationDate="2012-08-16T16:38:49.270" UserId="33" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2486" PostId="1374" Score="0" Text="Also there's a big difference between a *sponsored* dojo and a dojo that *teaches* ideology.  They do not necessarily equate." CreationDate="2012-08-16T16:40:28.487" UserId="33" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2487" PostId="1374" Score="1" Text="+1 because I agree, though I think &quot;blindly following&quot; applies equally to technique and philosophy." CreationDate="2012-08-16T17:42:16.837" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2488" PostId="1375" Score="0" Text="They're a pain to sew, though, unless you have a fairly burly sewing machine. You may need to take the foot off for collar/seam work as well." CreationDate="2012-08-16T18:58:33.077" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2489" PostId="1375" Score="0" Text="Agreed. You almost need a serger to handle the thickness, especially on the reinforced/seams parts. I've even had trouble sewing a simple instructor ribbon on the collar of a traditional dobok." CreationDate="2012-08-16T19:01:10.840" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2490" PostId="1179" Score="1" Text="I've also found that driving back to your barracks, getting out and casually walking over to the smoking area where a dozen of your Army buddies are hanging out works well too" CreationDate="2012-08-16T21:37:52.887" UserId="644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2491" PostId="1372" Score="1" Text="I was thinking about BJJ gis too, but they mostly just come in pink or with some feminine designs. I'm not sure they're actually a different cut." CreationDate="2012-08-16T22:56:24.683" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2492" PostId="1376" Score="0" Text="+1 for quoting Clausewitz... And the question is a good one too!" CreationDate="2012-08-17T09:07:27.040" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2493" PostId="1370" Score="0" Text="Long distances and different languages/cultural traditions explain divergence, but not any specific divergence. Different body types go further. My understanding: The larger, taller bodies of Northerners lead toward, encourage, and support their typically higher kicks and more expansive movements (e.g. &quot;Long Fist&quot;), while the shorter, more compact bodies and more populated/crowded cities of the South motivate their more constrained, close-in techniques (seen in e.g. Hung Gar, &quot;shadowless kicking,&quot; Wing Chun). If argued those factors are suggestive but not conclusive, I'd have to agree." CreationDate="2012-08-17T18:50:01.677" UserId="562" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2494" PostId="1370" Score="0" Text="I agree strongly w/r/t distance and language/culture; I think incorporating your comment into your post would improve it. I don't really see the mechanism for longer limbs promoting longer movements...if everybody is 4'11'', kicking people in the head is the same as if everybody is 6', no?" CreationDate="2012-08-17T18:59:24.443" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2495" PostId="1383" Score="0" Text="Good point. I had never thought of that. Do you know why the Northern Chinese were more likely to be armed though over the Southern Chinese?" CreationDate="2012-08-17T20:07:32.020" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2496" PostId="1383" Score="0" Text="I'm not a student of Chinese history, so I don't know how accurate it is, but I heard it was because the North wasn't as densely or as evenly populated as the South, and there were often bandits in the wilder areas of the North.  The primary crops of the North and South tend to support this, since the wheat grown in the north requires rotation, which means at least a third of the fields are not going to be cropped at any given time.  While the rice paddy agriculture of the south needs maintenance of the irrigation and can be farmed continuously." CreationDate="2012-08-18T00:43:07.830" UserId="638" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2500" PostId="58" Score="0" Text="Knife laws can depend on the city, too. Blade size matters. &quot;Purpose&quot; of knife matters, e.g., walking around with a karambit may be viewed differently than a wooden-handled Schrade. Wave-style openers matter." CreationDate="2012-08-18T22:37:25.507" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2501" PostId="1386" Score="0" Text="Depends on the gong fu school; both of mine are pretty traditional in terms of what they teach, but my normal &quot;SD is not MA&quot; disclaimer applies just the same :/ Some wrestling teams will still let you on the team w/o comp prep, but they're all different.." CreationDate="2012-08-18T22:39:46.563" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2508" PostId="1384" Score="4" Text="You might find [How to select the right Aikido dojo](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/80/how-to-select-the-right-aikido-dojo), [What characteristics should I look for in a sensei?](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/160/what-characteristics-should-i-look-for-in-a-sensei) and [What martial art should I start with?](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/466/what-martial-art-should-i-start-with) useful." CreationDate="2012-08-19T16:23:41.490" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2510" PostId="1385" Score="0" Text="@DaveNewton Please see [this answer](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/999/347). A career boxer's tolerance for low levels of brain damage, whether limited temporary issues due to concussions or more severe due to ongoing competition, is different from a mathematician's. It isn't *unique* to math, but people have varying levels of tolerance for the issues raised by getting hit in the brain." CreationDate="2012-08-19T21:51:57.040" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2514" PostId="1393" Score="0" Text="+1, not least for the use of the word &quot;andragogical&quot;." CreationDate="2012-08-20T18:58:05.393" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2515" PostId="1392" Score="0" Text="Enlightenment has a fairly specific and concrete meaning. It has however been very diluted by people who DO bandy about the word without knowing that meaning. &quot;Mastery&quot; can also be defined. One does not &quot;graduate from one stage to the next across all our techniques&quot;, because the point of 'ri' is to &quot;lose&quot; technique. Everything becomes just a manifestation of principles. This seems like it could be a good question: &quot;Does shu-ha-ri really exist across the board?&quot; Or .. Well, I'm not sure how to word it." CreationDate="2012-08-20T19:57:15.063" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2516" PostId="1393" Score="0" Text="So, if I read you correctly, you are arguing that examining a student's performance/progress during a particular drill could be a good indicator of progression from 'ha' to 'ri' ?" CreationDate="2012-08-20T19:58:31.567" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2517" PostId="1392" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke Could you point me to an authoritative reference that defines enlightenment specifically and concretely? Perhaps we are not meeting minds about the meaning of the term &quot;concrete&quot;. Same with mastery--we can point to Marcelo Garcia and say he's mastered the rear naked choke, but there's a problem (which you might recognize from the &quot;heap&quot; in comp sci): at what date and time did he go from not having mastery to having mastery?" CreationDate="2012-08-20T20:06:33.877" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2518" PostId="1392" Score="0" Text="I see our problem. We're not talking about the same thing. The states of mastery and enlightenment are definable, but they're not the same as the transition. I am asking about the transition, and you're talking about the state. For better or for worse, you could go for http://www.interactivebuddha.com/mctb.shtml which describes, step by step, the levels of enlightenment, and how to get there. If we agree that Mareclo Garcia is a master (which is not what you said, I am aware), then we must be able to define, however elusively, his state." CreationDate="2012-08-20T23:06:08.413" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2519" PostId="1392" Score="0" Text="And my question isn't about the transition (though that's FASCINATING! And I wish I'd asked it), but about the state." CreationDate="2012-08-20T23:07:39.923" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2520" PostId="1357" Score="0" Text="You may enjoy reading this other answer :) http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/61/what-martial-notation-systems-exist-for-describing-techniques-in-writing" CreationDate="2012-08-20T23:10:32.150" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2523" PostId="1392" Score="1" Text="@Trevoke You literally just said in your first comment that the Q is about the transition, then in your next comment that it's about the state. But that's irrelevant, because my point is that the definition of mastery/enlightenment/*ri*, being innately amorphous, is prey to the [sorites paradox](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorites_paradox)." CreationDate="2012-08-21T02:18:27.523" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2525" PostId="1393" Score="2" Text="Loosely, yes. I wouldn't use the term &quot;particular drill&quot;.  I suspect that the student's performance during sparring would reveal whether the student had progressed from limited improvisation to a deeper understanding of the fundamentals." CreationDate="2012-08-21T10:28:20.933" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2526" PostId="1389" Score="1" Text="Although I've provided my best answer, I'm increasingly skeptical that this question has an answer. I think it provokes interesting discussion, but the question may involve too many abstractions and subjective elements to permit an objective, empirical answer." CreationDate="2012-08-21T10:33:53.187" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2528" PostId="1392" Score="0" Text="Where did I say the question was about the transition? My question is, &quot;when does the teacher know the transition has occurred&quot;. And sure, it's prey to the sorites paradox, but a heap of sand still exists before you remove grains of sand. Why are you removing the grains of sand, you sadist?" CreationDate="2012-08-21T12:11:17.073" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2530" PostId="1392" Score="0" Text="Your second comment to this answer: &quot;I am asking about the transition&quot;. Your third comment to this answer: &quot;my question...is about the state&quot;. But again, my point is that we're not talking about something concrete like being a 2nd dan or having beaten opponent X. These are concepts that refer to states, but the states do not have hard edges, and the &quot;passing from ha to ri&quot; that your question refers to (aka the transition) is intrinsically not well-defined." CreationDate="2012-08-21T12:59:25.160" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2531" PostId="1370" Score="0" Text="Those with longer reach (for kicking or punching) are more likely to use and evolve moves that involve longer reach. A large guy, I know I emphasize moves where my height, mass, and reach give me advantage (over opponents of whatever size). I don't emphasize moves that require moving my entire body super-fast, or dropping very low, or otherwise fighting my natural inertia. This isn't something I can &quot;prove&quot; played deeply into Northern/Southern style differences, but I've heard it said many times by sifus (of Northern, Southern, and Korean arts), and it makes sense to me. YMMV." CreationDate="2012-08-21T16:26:20.727" UserId="562" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2532" PostId="1392" Score="0" Text="Well, my question is about the state - that is, the transition has occurred." CreationDate="2012-08-21T17:37:28.510" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2533" PostId="29" Score="1" Text="In general, this answer is right. But I'm not sure about the specifics. That circus example doesn't match anything I've ever read before. Not that it matters much..." CreationDate="2012-08-22T05:30:36.753" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2534" PostId="29" Score="1" Text="@Patricia how is Nova Uniao direct from Maeda? Pederneiras is a Carlson BB." CreationDate="2012-08-22T05:33:32.990" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2536" PostId="1386" Score="0" Text="Style of TKD would also matter. WTF has full contact kicks to the head, ITF is semi-contact to everything, and I'm sure there are other TKD federations as well as unfederated styles that have their own unique characteristics." CreationDate="2012-08-22T05:46:31.207" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2538" PostId="29" Score="0" Text="Wendall Alexander, the other 1/2 of the union http://www.bjjheroes.com/bjj-fighters/wendell-alexander" CreationDate="2012-08-22T13:16:59.047" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2540" PostId="1376" Score="4" Text="Downvote on &quot;should&quot; and &quot;proper&quot;.  The question will generate some interesting discussion and has spurred some interesting thought, but I don't think it is possible to tell whether it has been &quot;answered&quot;, and consequently I don't think the answer has any reference value.  Furthermore I'm skeptical that it is possible to research an answer to this question, or that an answer from an &quot;expert&quot; would be empirically superior to one from a random person.&#xA;Very interesting question, but not, IMHO, appropriate." CreationDate="2012-08-22T16:53:38.643" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2552" PostId="143" Score="2" Text="I think that several of these overstate the case. In both of my dojo's it is common for senior students to explain to novices, and it is not a violation of etiquette.  Also in adjult dojo's, I think the proportions will change. We're probably 75% black belt at the moment, and although I'd prefer to change that, I don't perceive it as a significant problem.  I don't disagree with tacone - these are useful indicators - but I think that they overstate the severity." CreationDate="2012-08-23T11:08:56.120" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2553" PostId="1398" Score="0" Text="+1 Nice overview of how to watch classes for a safety issue while evaluating a school." CreationDate="2012-08-23T13:15:42.437" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2554" PostId="1386" Score="0" Text="Although WTF Taekwondo (referred to in the answer as &quot;Olympic-style&quot;) is full contact, head guards are worn.  The current rules state that a headshot counts where any part of the foot below the shin makes contact with the head guard." CreationDate="2012-08-23T13:44:41.893" UserId="654" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2555" PostId="1400" Score="0" Text="The risk of concussion isn't &quot;high&quot;. I said: &quot;Head injuries aren't common in those arts but the risk of concussion is definitely present.&quot; For instance, I love judo, judo is safe, but judo has a *slight* risk of concussion so is not the right choice for someone who wants to train without risk of concussion. That person should be very wary of training an art focused on [kicking people in the head](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_ovy_xWaSU), but a light-contact WTF TKD school could a good choice." CreationDate="2012-08-23T14:19:48.200" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2556" PostId="1400" Score="0" Text="Is the low injury rate you're seeing only in sparring or also in competition? I don't even practice TKD and I've seen more than 2 headkick KOs in the past 10 years (competition obviously).&#xA;&#xA;I'd also suggest that it's just as risky not to finish with a knockout when the opponent could come back and KO you later or rack up more points." CreationDate="2012-08-23T14:19:54.673" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2557" PostId="1386" Score="1" Text="@pm_2 True, but if full-contact is allowed, people are going to go full-contact sometimes. It helps me score more points if my opponent is dazed after getting his bell rung." CreationDate="2012-08-23T14:46:47.407" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2558" PostId="1403" Score="6" Text="Have you spoken with a doctor about it?" CreationDate="2012-08-23T17:32:27.350" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2559" PostId="1403" Score="3" Text="Have you done any weight lifting as part of the rehab?" CreationDate="2012-08-23T18:43:18.540" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2560" PostId="579" Score="1" Text="Tomiki and Shotokan school use limited attacks. I believe Tomiki-sensei was once quoted as saying that 50% of your techniques should be shomen ate, and that the rest of the curriculum was only to be used if that didn't work. Yoshinkan uses atemi as a distraction to maintain kuzushi.  Although I don't challenge Aristos' assertion, I think that the situation is more complicated." CreationDate="2012-08-23T19:20:35.333" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2561" PostId="587" Score="1" Text="Modern sport TKD's excessive emphasis on kicks is from their scoring system.  Very traditional TKD uses kicks more than any other art that I know of, but rarely even 50%." CreationDate="2012-08-24T01:35:44.583" UserId="638" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2562" PostId="1407" Score="1" Text="I've tried both. &lt;warning; following is subjective&gt; I and my partners agree that we prefer the way that our MuGaiRyu teacher taught us. Dropping to the spine feels slower, breaks the flow/energy, and seems to corrupt the shoulder position." CreationDate="2012-08-24T09:40:20.337" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2563" PostId="1406" Score="2" Text="Similarities and differences between suburi in kendo, aikido, aiki-ken and Mugairyu are a fascinating subject, and well worthy of a beer or three.  Aikido seems to have kept the curved blade but pretends to use a kendo straight shinai.  That said, this answer matches what I see, and I think I'll accept it.  Thanks very much." CreationDate="2012-08-24T09:44:54.760" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2564" PostId="1407" Score="1" Text="@MarkC.Wallace: Indeed, that is what I found as well and thus why I am not doing it.  Also moving the *bokken* from the spine to vertical is a waste of energy." CreationDate="2012-08-24T09:52:28.710" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2565" PostId="1403" Score="0" Text="no i do not lift any heavy weights. though i wish i could lift but i have to take care that i dont get slip disc again because of weight lifting." CreationDate="2012-08-24T10:24:37.387" UserDisplayName="user655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2566" PostId="1403" Score="0" Text="I have been suggested by the doctor to do cardio type exercise and stretchings, so that i do not get slip disc again. But i have not asked specifically about karate." CreationDate="2012-08-24T10:27:17.190" UserDisplayName="user655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2567" PostId="587" Score="1" Text="I don't think truly is the right word to be using to convey what you mean. It's hard to argue that a Muay Thai fighter might not rely entirely on kicks to the thigh, which is above the knee." CreationDate="2012-08-24T10:28:50.853" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2568" PostId="1403" Score="0" Text="is there anyone with back problem doing karate? I also want to know their suggestions" CreationDate="2012-08-24T10:29:14.310" UserDisplayName="user655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2569" PostId="1405" Score="2" Text="It'd be interesting to fit someone in full Samurai armour and see if they're actually capable of throwing kicks. Might not just be a belief that kicks against armour are ineffective, but also that kicks in armour are ineffective." CreationDate="2012-08-24T10:31:51.393" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2570" PostId="1403" Score="2" Text="karate can be fairly broad in what it covers depending on the school and instructor. what specifically interests you about karate, and if you've thought about it, why karate and not some other martial art?" CreationDate="2012-08-24T10:53:56.677" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2571" PostId="1406" Score="0" Text="My pleasure! And thank **you** for accepting it!" CreationDate="2012-08-24T13:39:59.400" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2573" PostId="1409" Score="0" Text="@Kyaw Could you provide more detail about your situation? What kind of self-defense are you looking for? What schools are available to you?" CreationDate="2012-08-25T02:24:13.343" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2574" PostId="1409" Score="1" Text="For some discussion on which arts handle self-defense, [this question](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/159/347) is a good start. My question about what kind of self-defense you want is described in one of [my answers there](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/817/347)." CreationDate="2012-08-25T02:35:17.507" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2575" PostId="1409" Score="1" Text="Thanks for your reply. Speak frankly, I don't think I am good at striking and punching and since I have good body flexibility, I am just wondering whether I should go for throwing and grappling but this is my personal preference only and am not very sure whether it would really helps in self-defense situation. In Singapore, Take Kwan Do, Judo, JuJitsu, Karate and MMA schools are mostly available." CreationDate="2012-08-25T02:37:11.403" UserId="659" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2576" PostId="1409" Score="0" Text="i've got some connections in the singapore martial arts scene, i'll try to dig up some specifics. also, how far are you willing to travel within sg?" CreationDate="2012-08-25T02:49:18.357" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2577" PostId="1409" Score="1" Text="@KyawThurein  Is your question covered by [this question](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/159/which-martial-arts-focus-on-self-defense)?" CreationDate="2012-08-25T04:10:45.197" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2578" PostId="1409" Score="0" Text="Incidentally, I am closing this as currently it isn't a particularly good fit to a Q&amp;A format and may very well be an exact duplicate.   If it can be modified and/or clarified to the point where it can be reopened then it is easy to do so." CreationDate="2012-08-25T04:24:08.577" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2579" PostId="1409" Score="0" Text="@DavidH.Clements no, it's not covered well, Singapore is fairly unique in a number of aspects related to self defense, and a lot of the answers are barely applicable as a result. Singapore has a population over 5 million, so it's not like it's even remotely too localized" CreationDate="2012-08-25T06:41:34.593" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2580" PostId="1409" Score="1" Text="1) That it is based in Singapore is not mentioned in the questions 2) It is not clear *how* that makes it any different.  It needs to be improved.  If it can be improved and made into a great question, I can happily reopen it." CreationDate="2012-08-25T15:23:47.487" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2581" PostId="1409" Score="0" Text="@DavidH.Clements that's because you don't know how Singapore makes it different, I do. Re-open it first, I'm not wasting my time fixing the question up if I don't know I can answer it too." CreationDate="2012-08-26T02:37:34.267" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2582" PostId="1409" Score="3" Text="Fix it, then it can be reopened and can be answered.  That's why it is a community site with edit privileges.  The fact that I &quot;don't know how Singapore makes it different&quot; is part of the problem in that such needs to be spelled out in the question, and it isn't even clear that locality is at all the focus in what @KyawThurein is asking about." CreationDate="2012-08-26T05:09:52.383" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2583" PostId="1409" Score="1" Text="A community site with edit privileges is irrelevant if we don't have a community because you and Matt keep driving new users away by closing their questions right away." CreationDate="2012-08-26T10:27:56.257" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2584" PostId="354" Score="0" Text="@stslavik anyone can get hit hard and get a broken tooth, even if they're an amateur (in fact I know a few people who trained casually who had exactly that happen to them), even if you have a good dental plan and getting a false tooth to replace it isn't prohibitively expensive, it's still a pain. the average rate for a custom fitted one is around $150, and it's well worth paying that price whether you're a pro or a 1x/week amateur" CreationDate="2012-08-26T13:13:25.400" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2585" PostId="1409" Score="0" Text="So fix it quickly so that it can be reopened quickly." CreationDate="2012-08-26T16:43:02.453" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2586" PostId="607" Score="0" Text="@stslavik Didn't see the request for PP link till just now -- it's this one: https://encrypted.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=practical%20programming&amp;source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;cad=rja&amp;ved=0CCEQFjAA&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FPractical-Programming-Strength-Training-Rippetoe%2Fdp%2F0976805413&amp;ei=u-E6UOrOM4bn0QHUuIFQ&amp;usg=AFQjCNFpmTn_dkBcN6Wq02uk63HpZdnASg&amp;sig2=a5OZ0WRw5InKpzRtWC5EBQ aka http://www.aasgaardco.com/store/store.php?crn=199&amp;rn=328&amp;action=show_detail" CreationDate="2012-08-27T02:56:37.307" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2587" PostId="1409" Score="0" Text="It already has been fixed, look at the FAQ, it's specifically one of the questions that can be asked, and you still have it closed." CreationDate="2012-08-27T05:19:16.870" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2588" PostId="1409" Score="1" Text="&quot;Evaluating and choosing martial arts given specific criteria (e.g. grappling, high kicks, self-defense, etc.)&quot;&#xA;&#xA;The original question in fact met those criteria, uncertainty about grappling, uncertainty about striking, self-defense." CreationDate="2012-08-27T05:20:23.530" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2589" PostId="1397" Score="0" Text="I would definitely second this comment. We spar both with and without pads. Without, the injury rate is higher, but not generally to the shins. It's the things they hit that get injured. Compare a poorly-controlled kick to the face with and without pads - that's why we wear pads." CreationDate="2012-08-28T05:07:13.540" UserId="48" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2590" PostId="1414" Score="0" Text="Excellent answer. Thank you.  (that converges with my approach. Most of the time I practice as my mugairyu teacher taught. But in solo practice I try to alternate, to see what the other stroke will teach me)." CreationDate="2012-08-28T16:42:44.857" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2591" PostId="1409" Score="0" Text="@DavidH.Clements What is keeping this question closed?" CreationDate="2012-08-28T20:42:45.690" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2592" PostId="1409" Score="0" Text="A couple of things. One is that I hadn't been pinged (generally report things once you feel they are ready to be reopened), so I hadn't actually taken another look at it. Another is that it is still a _very_ broad question with vague specifications that isn't clearly different from the other question that was asked in this regard.  The major distinguishing points seem to be that he mentions a bunch of different things that are &quot;widely&quot; available (as opposed to just asking generally) and says that he &quot;wonders&quot; whether a &quot;throwing or grappling art would be a better choice.&quot;" CreationDate="2012-08-28T20:56:12.997" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2593" PostId="1409" Score="0" Text="That doesn't narrow it down much from the other question that was asked, which despite not explicitly mentioning these still covers the same territory." CreationDate="2012-08-28T20:58:33.867" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2594" PostId="1416" Score="0" Text="Excellent point in the 2nd paragraph." CreationDate="2012-08-29T04:00:52.350" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2595" PostId="1282" Score="0" Text="Will it suit your lifestyle? No clue. How much time will it take? To accomplish what? Will MA bring you &quot;peace of mind&quot;? No clue--so might many other things." CreationDate="2012-08-29T12:13:09.773" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2596" PostId="1303" Score="2" Text="I fully agree with Jonathan's comments, just pick a good school and try it out. I returned to martial arts after a long break at age 25, relatively unfit after I got bored with gym. After a long day at the office there is nothing more relaxing than forgetting about the outside world for an hour or two and sweating the stress out of my system. If you happen to click with a particular style the fitness and mental benefits will follow naturally. You absolutely do not have to aim to be a great fighter to do it." CreationDate="2012-08-29T14:57:36.910" UserId="75" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2597" PostId="1409" Score="0" Text="this seems like a fine question to me." CreationDate="2012-08-29T15:28:16.140" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2599" PostId="1420" Score="1" Text="You describe two styles, but I see virtually no description of *why* one would practice these instead of anything else." CreationDate="2012-08-30T02:06:31.183" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2600" PostId="1420" Score="0" Text="*Aikido* has way too many joint techniques to be safe if you already have bad joints.  Not sure if that is relevant or not to this question..." CreationDate="2012-08-30T07:38:03.637" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2601" PostId="1418" Score="0" Text="How *bad* are you joints?  Did you seek medical advice on how to fix them?" CreationDate="2012-08-30T07:39:49.517" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2602" PostId="1418" Score="0" Text="The joints aren't at the point of needing medical attention.  It takes two days for my leg to fully recover and then after that it's fine.  However, I don't like the inflamed knee the day after.  It hurts all day long, and well into the day after." CreationDate="2012-08-30T11:36:15.433" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2603" PostId="1418" Score="0" Text="*An addendum to the question would be how to evaluate a potential school.* This would be a question in its own right, possibly a [duplicate](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/80/how-to-select-the-right-aikido-dojo), but certainly worth asking -- if no duplicate can be found..." CreationDate="2012-08-30T11:44:26.963" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2604" PostId="1421" Score="3" Text="You might also find a series of recent blog posts by Eric Raymond helpful as he searches for a new martial arts school: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=4488 , http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=4494 , http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=4508 , http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=4528 (from oldest to most recent).  He also has leg problems, though his is a weakness left from childhood illness." CreationDate="2012-08-30T11:48:17.920" UserId="638" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2605" PostId="1421" Score="0" Text="The potential concern with weapon arts is that even something like Kali might not be appropriate with the stated goals if you're not going to be carrying something stick-like with you." CreationDate="2012-08-30T12:41:41.107" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2608" PostId="1418" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion, You might find the blog posts I linked to in the comment after my answer helpful.  They document Eric Raymond's search for a new school.  He's still looking, so there will probably be more posts coming." CreationDate="2012-08-30T22:10:00.003" UserId="638" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2609" PostId="1418" Score="1" Text="130KG, 52 years old speaking here: Ninjutsu is the place were old Karateka go to die :). But I'm afraid it's becoming too hard for me - a great diet motivator." CreationDate="2012-09-01T21:23:54.707" UserId="173" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2610" PostId="1433" Score="2" Text="It would help to cite which lineage of aikido you practice.  Tomiki, Aikikai, and Yoshinkan all have slightly different names for the same underlying concepts." CreationDate="2012-09-02T19:14:45.093" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2611" PostId="1434" Score="1" Text="+1 for, among other things, &quot;So step 1 is to trust that everyone in the room you are practicing has probably had this problem before, either in this or in another art&quot;.  Five years into Aikido and I still have problems with breathing." CreationDate="2012-09-02T19:20:21.173" UserId="33" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2613" PostId="1432" Score="0" Text="How much of a beginner?" CreationDate="2012-09-03T02:04:33.113" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2617" PostId="1429" Score="0" Text="on ibprofen, don't take it regularly when training, it has the less than desirable effect of lessening the strength gains your body will get through repair" CreationDate="2012-09-04T05:09:58.843" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2618" PostId="1427" Score="1" Text="I was going to suggest the this, the ground stuff is not really that good, though Arnis guys won't say that, but if you marry it with jiujitsu,  it makes for a great combo." CreationDate="2012-09-04T05:11:23.257" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2619" PostId="1433" Score="0" Text="You're affiliated with Aikikai.  http://www.aikidofc.com/About_Us.html affiliates with USAF, led by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshimitsu_Yamada, who is Aikikai." CreationDate="2012-09-04T10:28:23.077" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2620" PostId="639" Score="1" Text="Good answer - I want to comment on a potential misunderstanding re your comment &quot;the attacker will often 'guide' or 'help'...&quot; . This can be true - there is an analogy to shuhari - sempai may begin cooperatively to shape the student until they understand the gross body motions, then move to a neutral position to allow the student to more fully understand the  imbalance, ultimately moving to kaeshi-waza and the student masters the technique.   What you said was correct, but I want to avoid a false impression." CreationDate="2012-09-04T12:37:42.037" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2621" PostId="1429" Score="0" Text="I've heard that ibuprofen inhibits strength gains. But I've also seen the opposite: http://www.thefactsaboutfitness.com/research/painkillers.htm I'm not a bodybuilder, so for me getting back into full-energy practice is the key thing. YMMV." CreationDate="2012-09-04T14:13:07.330" UserId="562" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2623" PostId="1433" Score="0" Text="I believe it is legitimate to call Aikikai mainstream, although my teacher (who learned in the Tomiki lineage) might quibble with that.  The reason it is important is that since (to my memory) Aikikai relies less on  tai sabaki (The Walk), I don't want to reference that as a source; it probably isn't part of your training experience." CreationDate="2012-09-04T14:52:03.453" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2624" PostId="1433" Score="0" Text="And &quot;Budo&quot; is (loosely) just a term for martial arts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bud%C5%8D" CreationDate="2012-09-04T14:53:28.693" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2625" PostId="469" Score="2" Text="This advice (and entire thread/question) got me going to a local place that is great fun. After checking out one of their training sessions (they all were totally ok with me just watching), I could tell that they were in it for the same reasons I would be, and since it was an MMA gym, it had what I was looking for. (muay thai and jiu jitsu) Thanks!" CreationDate="2012-09-04T18:08:41.817" UserId="240" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2626" PostId="1427" Score="0" Text="@KeithNicholas The FMAs I practice includes a lot of ground work, but that's obviously style-dependent. Plus much of it is Inosanto or Canete, which isn't typical. Agreed, though, mixing it up is almost always more effective." CreationDate="2012-09-05T00:43:55.893" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2627" PostId="469" Score="1" Text="@Matt: You are most welcome. Good luck with your training." CreationDate="2012-09-05T06:15:46.737" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2628" PostId="1429" Score="6" Text="If you have to take painkillers on a regular basis, you're doing something wrong, and you're clearly continuing to do damage to your body." CreationDate="2012-09-05T08:33:17.857" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2629" PostId="1427" Score="0" Text="@DaveNewton Inosanto's a Black Belt under one of the Machados. Are you sure the ground work you're learning is actually FMA and not BJJ?" CreationDate="2012-09-05T08:35:03.363" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2630" PostId="1440" Score="1" Text="Welcome to the site!  It is nice to see another capoeira practitioner here.  I removed your request for email you as well (you will get less spam that way) and the &quot;signature&quot;." CreationDate="2012-09-05T09:45:49.863" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2631" PostId="1429" Score="0" Text="http://getfitguy.quickanddirtytips.com/should-you-take-ibuprofen-before-exercise.aspx" CreationDate="2012-09-05T10:28:05.643" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2632" PostId="1427" Score="0" Text="@RobinAshe It's a mix of everything, not always clear which comes from what. Some of it is definitely silat, some is definitely BJJ, some is Filipino. In terms of percentages, anything I guess would probably be wildly incorrect." CreationDate="2012-09-05T12:19:21.693" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2633" PostId="1435" Score="1" Text="de ashi bari (or hari)  is probably the foot sweep you are referring to :)  or perhaps ko soto gari. depending which direction you take the foot into." CreationDate="2012-09-05T19:56:23.513" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2634" PostId="1400" Score="0" Text="You don't need to do full contact sparring in WTF taekwondo." CreationDate="2012-09-06T02:02:23.687" UserId="506" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2635" PostId="1384" Score="0" Text="I've done WTF taekwondo for about 8 years, including about 4 years of full contact sparring and national competition on a handful of occasions. I've never been knocked out. My friends who play basketball and soccer have both been knocked unconscious, multiple times in the space of a few years. Not to mention broken noses and teeth, which I have also completely avoided." CreationDate="2012-09-06T02:05:25.040" UserId="506" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2636" PostId="1429" Score="3" Text="I second Tai Chi, but would drop Judo/Jujitsu, etc - particularly hard on the knee joints. Especially Judo." CreationDate="2012-09-06T06:49:35.527" UserId="83" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2637" PostId="1440" Score="2" Text="Frankly, you're better off replacing the *verga*. Any patching you do to wood will create a weakness adjacent to the patch and will change the resonance and elasticity of the wood. I can't say how significant this will be, but the next time you restring it, it'll probably crack again anyway; you're just delaying the inevitable." CreationDate="2012-09-06T16:18:44.633" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2639" PostId="1441" Score="1" Text="It is called *oshi taoshi* in *Shodookan* which translates as elbow push down.  There are countless applications of that one technique." CreationDate="2012-09-07T08:12:17.043" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2640" PostId="1442" Score="1" Text="(1) Suwari waza vs Tachi waza vs hanmi hadachi waza (2) Empty handed techniques vs knife techniques vs jo techniques, vs bokken,  (or weapon in general)." CreationDate="2012-09-07T12:40:28.000" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2641" PostId="1442" Score="0" Text="oooo, got me there! :)" CreationDate="2012-09-07T13:07:39.330" UserId="33" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2642" PostId="1442" Score="2" Text="Artifact of the test I'm preparing for - they throw some odd stuff in.  That said, I think you should contemplate throwing this over towards community wiki.  Strikes me that the core of your table is useful for more than just this question." CreationDate="2012-09-07T13:52:27.557" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2645" PostId="1445" Score="4" Text="You might get more comprehensive results in fitness.SE. Jumping is a fairly rich topic in sports science." CreationDate="2012-09-11T23:12:19.627" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2646" PostId="1447" Score="0" Text="Could it be weight?" CreationDate="2012-09-12T08:56:35.693" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2648" PostId="1447" Score="0" Text="We teach to think of a *bo* or *jo* as no different than a sword or a chain; you learn to lock with each, to tie with each, and, most relevant to your question, cut with each. Other claims I've heard are that it improves grip and durability; I've not looked into these claims much." CreationDate="2012-09-12T15:41:21.627" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2650" PostId="1445" Score="1" Text="Plyometrics is... are? one of the best ways to improve jumping. I don't really see how you're specifically train &quot;jumps for martial arts&quot;, although if you're specifically talking about spinning jump techniques, you'd probably want to incorporate that into the plyometrics. That said, watch out; I trained with a woman who broke her own spine doing a spinning technique :( (No paralysis or anything.)" CreationDate="2012-09-12T23:32:04.220" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2651" PostId="1446" Score="1" Text="I don't see how it's anything other than the natural evolution of jumping and spinning techniques, which have been around for ages. On a related side note, somebody tried a jumpy thing on me once; I put my hand on their chest while they were in the air and helped them to the ground--it was quite funny, and I looked like a superhero." CreationDate="2012-09-12T23:34:41.283" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2652" PostId="1448" Score="0" Text="@MatBanik Obviously that depends on what you consider the &quot;radius&quot; or &quot;diameter&quot; of an octagon. Normally the &quot;radius&quot; of a regular polyhedron is measured from its center to any of its vertices (circumradius), implying an octagonal weapon would have *less* wood than a round one." CreationDate="2012-09-12T23:38:00.250" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2653" PostId="691" Score="0" Text="Suggest two revisions. First, I think it would help to clarify that &quot;ground&quot; does not mean suwari waza or iado - ground *seems* to mean &quot;grappling&quot;.  Second, I the question seems to be &quot;Are there ground fighting (grappling) kata?&quot;.  The current question could be (mis) interpreted as &quot;can standing kata be performed while prone?&quot;" CreationDate="2012-09-13T16:18:51.507" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2654" PostId="1367" Score="0" Text="Concur with Mr. Newton.  I can't imagine a non-anecdotal answer to this question.  I think the question may be  interesting, and even important, but I don't think it is constructive as we use the term." CreationDate="2012-09-13T16:19:46.420" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2655" PostId="1104" Score="0" Text="I believe this is a legitimate question, and I believe that it is possible to provide an objective, researched answer." CreationDate="2012-09-13T16:22:26.607" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2656" PostId="1376" Score="0" Text="As I stated above - interesting, but not constructive within the context of MA:SE" CreationDate="2012-09-13T16:23:07.247" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2657" PostId="1127" Score="0" Text="I know this reply is after a long time, but, I agree with your last sentence. Close combat, specially when not enough room" CreationDate="2012-09-13T17:32:55.833" UserId="519" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2658" PostId="1104" Score="0" Text="@MarkC.Wallace: And I believe you are correct :)" CreationDate="2012-09-13T17:34:01.463" UserId="519" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2659" PostId="1127" Score="0" Text="@Sepala To be clear, my statement doesn't at all mean that Goju is ideally suited for close-quarters combat. (I'd trust judo or Greco-Roman wrestling more.) I'm just saying that goju could be better than a style that trains at long range exclusively." CreationDate="2012-09-13T17:45:26.093" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2660" PostId="1452" Score="0" Text="Interesting. I would think that a staff would have been traditionally round seeing that sticks and trees naturally grow in that shape. It would seem easier to smooth out the roundness of the staff rather unless the octagonal shape had a different purpose or meaning within a style." CreationDate="2012-09-14T00:23:23.680" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2661" PostId="1452" Score="1" Text="@Matt-Chan, that would be true if you are using a stick that is the right size, but typically you would be shaping things out of a board from a larger tree. This gives you much more control over the grain in the final weapon. The straighter the grain, the better." CreationDate="2012-09-14T01:21:47.890" UserId="443" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2662" PostId="33" Score="1" Text="A well performed martial arts choke should result in unconsciousness within 3-5 seconds, so I'm not sure that the distinction between A and B is legitimate." CreationDate="2012-09-14T11:48:31.787" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2663" PostId="37" Score="0" Text="My dojo includes a number of physicians; they claim they can see the results of a blood choke on a brain scan.  Both are quite dangerous.   We haven't trained choke in quite a while, but I don't remember it affecting the trachea - I think I was breathing throughout." CreationDate="2012-09-14T11:50:20.927" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2664" PostId="1444" Score="0" Text="I like the general points you raise (although I had to re-read it several times before I was able to pull the content out of the typographical/editing problems &quot;the foot work doesn't go the waist up&quot;?).  On the other hand, isn't this true of all kinetic arts?  I believe my Tai Chi instructor would say the same things about Tai Chi.  Good answer - better answer would compare to other arts or discuss what makes wing chun unique/distinctive." CreationDate="2012-09-14T18:22:15.000" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2666" PostId="1453" Score="0" Text="With #2 do you mean leaning forward or stepping forward, or both?" CreationDate="2012-09-16T19:14:18.473" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2668" PostId="1456" Score="0" Text="+1. I would emphasis being relaxed as this puts more elasticity into impacts thus dissipating kinetic energy instead of absorbing it into the body.  You *breathe* point is excellent since it forces one's body to relax." CreationDate="2012-09-17T08:25:33.577" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2669" PostId="1455" Score="1" Text="I would say there are two questions here.  I think that you could ask the last sentence as a question on its own." CreationDate="2012-09-17T08:26:10.567" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2670" PostId="1444" Score="0" Text="I has talking about wing chun in the foot work area, I am doing wing chun, tai chi just a little, i am not able to give a opinion yet about others martial arts." CreationDate="2012-09-17T08:48:40.217" UserId="686" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2671" PostId="1458" Score="3" Text="It would help to summarize and paraphrase parts of the article and post that here." CreationDate="2012-09-17T11:44:33.483" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2675" PostId="1453" Score="0" Text="Deceptively simple question.  I started to give a knee jerk answer, but then realized the subtlety. Can we clarify the question? The answers seem to make different assumptions about what you're asking.  Are you asking for rapier, or for all martial arts weapons, or for empty hand?" CreationDate="2012-09-17T15:51:28.617" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2678" PostId="1461" Score="0" Text="!Ouch! That's an unfortunate instinct!" CreationDate="2012-09-17T17:02:46.657" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2680" PostId="1372" Score="1" Text="AFAIK, Gis are unisex (at least at the normal shops in Germany).&#xA;Which features do you actually desire for your Gi that the common one doesn't have?" CreationDate="2012-09-17T16:00:06.263" UserId="696" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2683" PostId="1459" Score="0" Text="Thank you Mr. Chan for the value add edit. Much better now.  I still get confused as to which wiki markup language I'm using." CreationDate="2012-09-17T18:23:05.853" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2685" PostId="1453" Score="0" Text="Empty hand, specifically, though more general answers would also be good.  Rapier I know plenty of drills for, but they require significant adaptation in some cases since empty hand lacks some of the visual cues that rapiers let you check within an inch." CreationDate="2012-09-17T18:45:26.780" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2686" PostId="1461" Score="0" Text="This is a really good mental training tool for beginning rolls, +1!" CreationDate="2012-09-17T18:51:45.907" UserId="33" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2688" PostId="1372" Score="0" Text="Any tailor can bring in the sides of a *dogi*. They are largely unisex." CreationDate="2012-09-17T21:42:06.510" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2689" PostId="61" Score="0" Text="I use various home-brew, art-specific notations. I can get away with some similar notations for gross movements, but everything else is so specialized, and so personal, I'm not convinced a &quot;universal&quot; language would be doable." CreationDate="2012-09-18T01:44:17.290" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2690" PostId="1456" Score="1" Text="*Aikido* rolls are big rolls; the body is barely compressed, which allows you to rock up to standing very easily (*Ninpo* has tight rolls that keep you low to the ground, and bring you up into kneeling position before standing). In any martial art, strive to tuck your head as late as possible; you keep your eyes on your opponent as long as possible so you avoid being surprised. Think about making your arm to your hip a wheel. To do so, your hand will roll along its side, your forearm lowers until your elbow touches, then your upper arm, shoulder, then hip. Slow is smooth; smooth, fast." CreationDate="2012-09-18T18:44:20.163" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2691" PostId="1454" Score="1" Text="Aww. I got downvoted. May I please get some feedback as to why this answer was not useful?" CreationDate="2012-09-19T11:45:40.043" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2692" PostId="1454" Score="0" Text="I downvoted because I've done this drill and found it unproductive. It seems to me to be more of a karate mind game than a useful exercise in learning distancing. It lacks footwork, live experimentation with the range, and agency on the part of the student. The last sentence also indicates a troubling lack of meaningful integration of the drill with sparring or more robust live drilling. It is similar to a useful drill, but the one-sidedness of this version, combined with a lack of movement on the part of the student, makes it unproductive." CreationDate="2012-09-19T15:47:29.967" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2693" PostId="1454" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann These are all valid points. I chose to omit all of these for the sake of brevity. Why was it unproductive? Or was it just because of the arguments you listed? If so, I would hazard that maybe you did the drill without complete mindfulness. It is also entirely possible that you do not learn well from drills like these and require drills with more movements to integrate the learning, just like I don't learn as well with drills that have more movements, when I am on the fundamental level." CreationDate="2012-09-20T01:33:22.050" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2694" PostId="1464" Score="1" Text="Good points although the asker isn't particularly interested in internal martial arts." CreationDate="2012-09-20T16:22:25.923" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2695" PostId="1465" Score="2" Text="Yeah, just more practice." CreationDate="2012-09-24T03:31:38.627" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2696" PostId="1467" Score="0" Text="+1 - the wrist grab can be beneficial, you know where their hand is and what it's doing. If this is done to me then it's about a 75%/25% split between me either locking them up in return or just utilising their wrist grab to position them for a specific technique. Very seldom would I actually just disengage and then do nothing." CreationDate="2012-09-24T07:14:31.377" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2697" PostId="1465" Score="0" Text="Practice and keep things simple. If a person has a dozen ways (just picking a number at random) to grab your wrist and you have a specific technique for escaping from each one then yes, choking is very likely. Don't over think, do." CreationDate="2012-09-24T15:19:03.473" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2698" PostId="1465" Score="0" Text="Practice does not make perfect; only perfect practice makes perfect." CreationDate="2012-09-24T18:29:11.053" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2702" PostId="1455" Score="1" Text="I'll answer the last question here, and allow those more experienced to address the other questions. Although similar to a shoulder dislocation, a shoulder separation injury can occur as well from high falls/rolls that are done incorrectly. I've also heard of new practitioners getting broken noses/nosebleeds, etc. from nose hitting knee when performing the roll incorrectly." CreationDate="2012-09-25T13:16:04.123" UserId="271" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2703" PostId="1445" Score="0" Text="I agree with Dave Liepmann. There's a lot of exercises out there for improving jumping height. Parkour incorporates a lot of these exercises in their training, as will other sports involving a lot more jumping than martial arts." CreationDate="2012-09-25T13:21:16.457" UserId="271" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2704" PostId="1418" Score="0" Text="By &quot;practical use&quot;, do you mean in a self-defense context? All martial arts usually have something that will translate to modern times... As many others have suggested, I would advise looking into Wing Chun, Tai Chi, Baguazhang, QingYi or Aikido based on your other criteria." CreationDate="2012-09-25T13:31:07.443" UserId="271" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2705" PostId="1448" Score="0" Text="I'd say the edge would cut you no matter what shape the bo is. The edge will be sharp on either version." CreationDate="2012-09-25T13:39:56.153" UserId="604" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2706" PostId="1477" Score="2" Text="In mugai ryu the blade is held slightly above horizontal. The only friendly I have a chance of injuring is someone about 7 feet tall who is already uncomfortably close to me. And the tip has to pass through a 4' circle around my body so it wouldn't be any use in confined spaces.  I think your answer is good, but I've failed to draw an adequate word picture." CreationDate="2012-09-25T14:41:30.110" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2707" PostId="1475" Score="1" Text="+1 just for mentioning bujinkan budotaijutsu - I've been waiting for a practitioner of that art. Close friend of mine studied it and I admired what she was taught." CreationDate="2012-09-25T14:44:25.287" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2710" PostId="1425" Score="0" Text="Just a small comment. I was recently briefly shown some kali with a spear. The guy often used the following follow up after a strike or stab. He pulled the weapon through the throat of the adversary, supposedly cutting it." CreationDate="2012-09-26T14:44:12.777" UserId="485" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2711" PostId="1425" Score="0" Text="Also, the strikes(swings) were quite forceful. I do not know if this was because it was a demo of the most basic techniques or because the techniques are supposed to work with a staff too." CreationDate="2012-09-26T14:45:52.497" UserId="485" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2712" PostId="1465" Score="0" Text="Thanks guys. Some great answers there. I'll let you know how it goes soon." CreationDate="2012-09-27T04:47:53.363" UserId="443" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2713" PostId="1408" Score="0" Text="Emphasis on the last line." CreationDate="2012-09-27T10:34:31.520" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2715" PostId="635" Score="0" Text="Anyway, great answer, David." CreationDate="2012-09-27T17:22:41.333" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2716" PostId="115" Score="0" Text="-1 The bench press increases explosive strength by increasing strength. (Explosive strength is a function of strength.)" CreationDate="2012-09-27T19:50:46.287" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2717" PostId="112" Score="2" Text="This is almost an exact duplicate of [this question](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/1166/347)." CreationDate="2012-09-27T19:53:47.407" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2718" PostId="42" Score="15" Text="-1, the first paragraph is unsupported by anecdote or data. Cutting off cerebral blood flow via blood choke is exactly what millions of judo, BJJ, SAMBO, and submission grappling exponents practice extensively every day without the ill effects you claim." CreationDate="2012-09-27T21:04:30.240" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2719" PostId="37" Score="0" Text="@MarkC.Wallace Quite dangerous how?" CreationDate="2012-09-27T21:05:24.387" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2720" PostId="68" Score="0" Text="@SimonPeterChappell The issue is that you don't show up for a tournament most times. MMA bouts are generally 1-fight affairs, with a great deal of preparation going into them, and the results put in your permanent record. So being outweighed even by a few pounds is a bigger deal than in local judo competition." CreationDate="2012-09-27T22:34:19.983" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2721" PostId="37" Score="0" Text="Dammit Dave, I'm a project manager, not a doctor.... (That's what passes for humor in my mind).  Seriously, I'm not sure I'm qualified to convey the specifics, but if the choke is producing results that show up as a shadow on a brainscan, then chokes are more dangerous than we thought. I'll ask again this weekend and let you know." CreationDate="2012-09-28T10:19:14.790" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2722" PostId="1484" Score="0" Text="+1 for clear strong citations &amp; close relevance to the question." CreationDate="2012-09-28T12:55:20.513" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2723" PostId="1486" Score="0" Text="wow, thank you for the detailed answer.  Does this mean that Tai Chi is for older people?  Also, in terms of self defense, is Tai Chi inferior to other martial arts?  I am going to check with both schools and talk to the teachers there, but at the moment I feel like Tai Chi might be better (mainly because I have led sedentary lifestyle all my life)" CreationDate="2012-10-01T01:25:57.867" UserId="716" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2724" PostId="1486" Score="3" Text="Tai chi is **not** restricted to older people. Older people may find it easier to do tai chi than other martial arts. I'm only in my late twenties but I have been doing tai chi for at least five years now, and it has certainly helped my kung fu in terms of grounding myself and focusing my energy as well as my leg, back, and core strength. It is not necessarily inferior to other martial arts when it comes to self-defense because the movements you learn do have applicability, but the distinction is that tai chi is about redirecting internal energy (being &quot;soft&quot; instead of hard direct impact)." CreationDate="2012-10-01T01:29:39.003" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2725" PostId="1486" Score="0" Text="thank you so much.  hopefully, I'll find a class where I can fit in (all the martial arts classes seem to have lots of kids and young people.  I already feel old, even though I am in my thirties)" CreationDate="2012-10-01T01:34:39.460" UserId="716" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2726" PostId="1485" Score="3" Text="Please see also http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/466/457" CreationDate="2012-10-01T11:48:06.807" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2728" PostId="1486" Score="1" Text="People who have the ability to train more vigorously than forms-only tai chi should generally do so. People who cannot (such as the detrained elderly) get a lot more benefit out of low-grade exercise such as tai chi as it is generally practiced in the USA." CreationDate="2012-10-01T14:46:33.237" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2729" PostId="1487" Score="0" Text="The question is awkward. Not only is it written badly, it also encourages functional fixedness instead of functional fluidity. It should be changed to, &quot;What are some applications for this particular Seven-Star Mantis stance?&quot;&#xA;&#xA;If possible, the name of this _shi_ (勢) should be determined and substituted for &quot;this particular ... stance&quot;." CreationDate="2012-10-01T15:23:28.900" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2730" PostId="1488" Score="0" Text="So while I know you are trying to say, you don't know Seven-Star Praying Mantis, saying &quot;I don't know Kung-Fu&quot; is like saying &quot;I don't know _budo_&quot; when referring to Aikido." CreationDate="2012-10-01T15:26:45.790" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2732" PostId="1487" Score="0" Text="@Ho-ShengHsiao Feel free to edit it if you think the question could be written more clearly." CreationDate="2012-10-01T16:01:02.630" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2734" PostId="954" Score="0" Text="@DaveNewton Well, I suggest taking that up with the tai chi coaches who use that analogy. The guy is a CMA lineage holder and multiple-time champion in competitions of the gentle art." CreationDate="2012-10-01T19:05:11.790" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2735" PostId="1495" Score="0" Text="I've never heard of it before; do you have a link to any references or additional information? (+1 for the phrase &quot;when practices respectfully&quot;.)" CreationDate="2012-10-01T19:05:21.040" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2736" PostId="954" Score="0" Text="none of which means he would win an analogy competition." CreationDate="2012-10-01T19:52:43.770" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2737" PostId="954" Score="0" Text="@DaveNewton He's making the point that taiji is a physical skill. Like any physical skill, it should be practiced in a manner as close as possible to its application." CreationDate="2012-10-01T19:57:08.287" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2738" PostId="1493" Score="1" Text="-1 for trying to reverse engineer the form. That misguided practice is the source of a huge quantity of poor martial skills." CreationDate="2012-10-01T20:45:05.000" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2739" PostId="1487" Score="0" Text="@Ho-ShengHsiao No. Making up applications on whimsy is not how people who received actual transmission practice." CreationDate="2012-10-01T20:46:17.463" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2740" PostId="954" Score="0" Text="Yep. And I don't like the analogy. I hope that will be okay." CreationDate="2012-10-01T20:55:49.537" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2741" PostId="1493" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Wow, whatever floats your boat, man." CreationDate="2012-10-01T23:19:14.470" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2742" PostId="1487" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann You sure are assuming a lot of things. For one thing, according to the story, the OP is not receiving the transmission. The purpose is to exercise functional fluidity in order to enhance your primary art, not to say that &quot;I know Mantis&quot;. Ah well, the bigger the tree, the bigger it falls :-)" CreationDate="2012-10-01T23:22:25.417" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2743" PostId="976" Score="0" Text="Since you seem to have a personal standard you're holding others to, I ask you: are you receiving a transmission from a particular taijiquan teacher, or is all of this merely armchair answer?" CreationDate="2012-10-01T23:31:04.367" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2744" PostId="976" Score="0" Text="@Ho-ShengHsiao Nowhere have I said I study tai chi. That doesn't discount the statements I'm *quoting* from people who study and teach it." CreationDate="2012-10-02T01:59:43.787" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2745" PostId="1487" Score="0" Text="@Ho-ShengHsiao A good answer to this question would involve *someone familiar with the technique*, hopefully within the context of a 7-star mantis school that proves itself in competition at least occasionally. Answers that are just flights of imagination without reference or experience are poor." CreationDate="2012-10-02T02:05:47.693" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2746" PostId="976" Score="1" Text="@DaveLiepmann Right. Armchair. Noted. Thanks for clearing that up, I have been wondering about that." CreationDate="2012-10-02T04:30:36.623" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2747" PostId="1487" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann You are absolutely right. I suppose that little bit of Northern Preying Mantis I learned from a Northern Shaolin lineage holder did not give me enough depth to properly analyze this stance, especially since I only just remembered that after I wrote the answer off the top of my head, and I've only seen him do it a couple times.&#xA;&#xA;I will keep in mind your standards when next time you write or quote about taijiquan, xingiyquan, or baguazhang in the future." CreationDate="2012-10-02T04:34:51.487" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2748" PostId="1495" Score="0" Text="@MarkC.Wallace Added some more explanation about Luta Livre. If you wanna know more - just google it. There are lots of videos on youtube.  Don't confuse it with Lucha Libre - those two have few in common ;-)" CreationDate="2012-10-02T11:59:12.827" UserId="718" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2749" PostId="1495" Score="0" Text="Thanks - that helps me to understand. I googled Luta Livre in the hopes of including a link in your article, but there doesn't seem to be a  link that can reasonably be called authoritative.  Wikipedia mentions it in the context of submission wrestling, but has no source.    Having said that, +1 for reference to Lucha Libre, which gave me a laugh." CreationDate="2012-10-02T13:14:28.160" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2750" PostId="1493" Score="1" Text="I was actually asking more about the legwork rather than what the arms are doing. The picture there was just something I wanted to use to supplement my description." CreationDate="2012-10-02T17:21:32.687" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2751" PostId="1486" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann: I do not quite get what was your message - if you tried to imply that taiji is a forms-only practice, then I would strongly disagree as I am an avid practitioner of taiji and can testify that true practice includes much more than just slow moving forms practice." CreationDate="2012-10-02T19:34:54.077" UserId="424" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2752" PostId="1486" Score="2" Text="@RolandTepp I agree that taiji is not a forms-only practice, just that nearly all schools that practice taiji in the USA practice it as a forms-only practice, or with only marginal attention given to applications." CreationDate="2012-10-02T19:42:01.817" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2753" PostId="1499" Score="0" Text="A reference that people forget?" CreationDate="2012-10-02T23:01:44.063" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2754" PostId="704" Score="0" Text="Actually charging, or just moving forward with bad intentions?" CreationDate="2012-10-02T23:02:52.567" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2755" PostId="1487" Score="1" Text="Calm down, guys..." CreationDate="2012-10-02T23:32:08.990" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2756" PostId="607" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann - I tend to agree with _stslavik_ in the assertion that the main trouble is bad (or lacking) form of the hand when delivering a punch. Focusing only on increasing wrist strength without fixing the root issue of wrist alignment in the punch will perhaps mask the issue in the short run, but in the long run it will most likely be opening the way for even worse injury down the road." CreationDate="2012-10-03T07:31:37.243" UserId="424" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2757" PostId="1195" Score="4" Text="-1, theoretical speculation unbacked by personal experience or experimentation. Question is asked about &quot;uproot for someone in taiji&quot;, but the author does not practice taijiquan or any of the related arts." CreationDate="2012-10-03T16:40:00.707" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2759" PostId="1195" Score="1" Text="Yes, I am aware that you gave yourself an exception to book knowledge. I don't see how that is different from reverse engineering, though it is obviously acceptable to SE in general. In addition, you provided a bunch of your own opinions, conclusions, and interpretation based on those quotes in the last two paragraphs." CreationDate="2012-10-03T17:05:02.790" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2760" PostId="1503" Score="0" Text="Is the mat made of vinyl, canvas, covered foam, uncovered foam, shredded tires, is it a puzzle mat, is it a superconductor...? Details about the situation allow for better answers." CreationDate="2012-10-04T13:07:03.660" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2761" PostId="1503" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann: Question edited." CreationDate="2012-10-04T13:08:37.447" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2764" PostId="1503" Score="1" Text="I believe there are kits that have like a caulking compound and a vinyl latex that you can paint over the top of it.&#xA;&#xA;http://www.resilite.com/Departments/Wrestling-Mats-and-Supplies/Mat-Care-and-Cleaning/Mat-Repair-Supplies.aspx&#xA;&#xA;http://swainmats.com/store/store/comersus_listItems.asp?idCategory=31" CreationDate="2012-10-04T14:58:42.723" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2765" PostId="1506" Score="1" Text="Excellent answer; total agreement. These are the likely issues someone will encounter." CreationDate="2012-10-04T14:59:03.553" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2766" PostId="1506" Score="3" Text="Watching should never be a problems.  However, depending on the dojo/instructor insurance, instructors may have to ask someone who wants to train to get insured (thus pay a small fee) even if they only want to try it for a session or two." CreationDate="2012-10-04T15:47:25.417" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2767" PostId="1506" Score="0" Text="RE:fees.  Yes, I see how my answer was unclear.  I shall edit." CreationDate="2012-10-04T15:47:46.150" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2768" PostId="1506" Score="0" Text="Nice additions! I chose Sardathrion's answer because it was more complete; however, I don't want to discredit yours. I'm just not sure how to do that, other than upvoting it too. I hope that works out well enough." CreationDate="2012-10-05T03:02:34.540" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2769" PostId="1506" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke No worries, mine was just an addendum, Sard's was more complete so I didn't feel the need to repeat. :D" CreationDate="2012-10-05T04:27:57.277" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2770" PostId="1504" Score="0" Text="Community wiki this?" CreationDate="2012-10-05T17:53:09.947" UserId="268" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2772" PostId="955" Score="1" Text="Commplex patterns can include partner exercises like &quot;split vertical circle&quot; and one with a more complex chinese name that I can't recall, but essentially trades the active role in ward off/rollback/press/push.  Good answer @trevoke" CreationDate="2012-10-05T19:19:05.927" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2775" PostId="1504" Score="0" Text="@Russell I don't know if I can, but it's a good idea." CreationDate="2012-10-05T23:48:19.967" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2779" PostId="1418" Score="0" Text="This isn't specific to your question, but have you looked at heavy weight training (anything by Mark Rippetoe)? I've found that proper heavy lifting techniques has gone a long way to help repair my bad knees (250lbs) person." CreationDate="2012-10-06T07:05:40.760" UserId="4" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2782" PostId="1513" Score="0" Text="I'm not sure this answer would apply to a lot of aikidoka :D" CreationDate="2012-10-06T14:15:13.080" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2783" PostId="1513" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann that was only one of the examples, you'd expect Hapkido practitioners to be concerned about results, and almost any other stylist." CreationDate="2012-10-06T21:34:08.083" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2784" PostId="1515" Score="0" Text="I disagree about keeping the chin down to avoid the guillotine, it actually makes you more susceptible to it, rather than less. The worst thing for getting guillotined is having the other guy sprawl on you first, and chin down makes you susceptible to the sprawl. If they just grab onto it without first sprawling, the chance of them finishing it is close to zero." CreationDate="2012-10-06T21:39:23.323" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2785" PostId="1515" Score="0" Text="@RobinAshe I'm not a wrestler, but the wrestlers I've trained with have mentioned needing to specifically turn off their &quot;chin up, use the head to push sideways&quot; habit during doubles (and singles?) because their hugely exposed neck was getting them guillotined left and right. To solve this, 3 of my BJJ coaches have told me to tuck the chin, position the head lower and closer to one's shoulder, and avoid the use of the head to push. I'm not qualified to say anything at all about what those factors do vis-a-vis the sprawl or what happens after the sprawl." CreationDate="2012-10-07T00:15:57.900" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2786" PostId="1513" Score="0" Text="I agree, they should. Traditional stylists such as aikidoka (and even extending to some traditional BJJ and judo instructors I've seen) are unfortunately often still more concerned with how it looks." CreationDate="2012-10-07T00:17:51.377" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2787" PostId="1515" Score="0" Text="I just reread your comment, and I can say this: I finish a lot of guillotines on pure wrestlers (i.e., no BJJ experience) by grabbing their neck without sprawling. Not great wrestlers, and not yet in competition, but I question your assertion that the guillotine without a sprawl doesn't work. It's harder, sure, but it happens all the time." CreationDate="2012-10-07T00:46:47.083" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2788" PostId="1515" Score="0" Text="There's two types of wrestlers when it comes to chokes. There's the type that doesn't think too highly of their own skillset and thinks that martial arts are in some way superior, and will tap because they're caught in a choke and don't know how to get out. Then there's the guys who say, 'I'm a wrassler, I ain't tappin to no durned headlock', they ignore the choke, get stuck in it until the guy doing the choke tires his arm out, and then continue forward. I've never been caught in a guillotine without a sprawl that I couldn't just ignore and wait out." CreationDate="2012-10-07T03:31:16.627" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2789" PostId="1515" Score="0" Text="That said, a high crotch is a lot more efficient than a traditional double because it lets you pass to side control a lot easier. I've seen a few wrestlers pull that off very consistently, high crotch -&gt; get guillotined -&gt; ignore it -&gt; pass to side while guillotined -&gt; mount while guillotined -&gt; wait. Never once did they pass out." CreationDate="2012-10-07T03:33:30.323" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2790" PostId="1515" Score="0" Text="Also, when they reach over for the choke, they make themselves top heavy, makes it easy to dump them over your back if you do the chin up, push to the side method." CreationDate="2012-10-07T03:37:30.443" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2791" PostId="1515" Score="0" Text="@RobinAshe Let's continue in [chat](http://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/6400033#6400033). I'd like to better understand your rejection of the no-sprawl guillotine." CreationDate="2012-10-07T03:44:59.857" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2792" PostId="16" Score="1" Text="I think freezer would just delay the growth of mildew. Sun drying though seems to be fairly reliable for a number of things, so I'd say that might actually work. I'm still concerned though that the sun doesn't get directly inside the gloves." CreationDate="2012-10-08T19:31:08.040" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2793" PostId="1511" Score="4" Text="It seemed really weird to lead with uniform-coloured mats and on-premises showers - our kick-bags are varying shades of blue, being different ages and brands, but they're all kick-able and have enough padding to protect the holder. We don't have showers on-site because we train in a school hall. I wouldn't consider either of those points important enough to open with - maybe a footnote to consider if you need the showers and you're quite OCD.&#xA;(For the record, you make lots of other excellent points)" CreationDate="2012-10-09T00:18:35.900" UserId="48" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2795" PostId="1511" Score="2" Text="@Rophuine It might not be a big deal if you're training a non-contact art, but if there's any contact, everything has to be clean, otherwise you pick up staph/herpes g./ringworm. Having an outbreak of that at your club is really nasty." CreationDate="2012-10-09T03:33:59.547" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2796" PostId="1513" Score="0" Text="I'm not sure that is a useful/productive characterization of aikido.  I am perhaps biased in that my instructor is adamant that effective technique is more important than adherence to doctrine, but I'm not sure it is useful to call out Aikido as preferring form over function." CreationDate="2012-10-09T11:09:38.833" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2797" PostId="1511" Score="1" Text="I strongly agree with &quot;Realistically most people don't need to train martial arts to defend themselves as most people won't be attacked anyway, so what I want out of effectiveness doesn't necessarily apply to someone else, but the bottom line is that training martial arts should not be worse for your personal safety and well being than not training martial arts.&quot; - I think that is far more important than mat color; I don't quite understand why mat color makes a difference." CreationDate="2012-10-09T13:37:49.050" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2798" PostId="1513" Score="0" Text="Re-reading the question, I now understand why Aikido was called out, but I don't seem to be able to edit my prior comment." CreationDate="2012-10-09T13:51:04.793" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2799" PostId="1511" Score="1" Text="@MarkC.Wallace Once you've seen a really nasty mat, you'll see what I mean about mat colour." CreationDate="2012-10-09T14:19:48.067" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2800" PostId="873" Score="0" Text="+1 for slow repetition -- as my Taekwondo master explained the value of this to me, repetition, worrying only about correctness and not speed builds the muscle memory to perform each technique correctly; performing the technique correctly leads to efficiency and power, and efficiency and power lead to speed." CreationDate="2012-10-09T19:43:29.560" UserId="732" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2801" PostId="1226" Score="0" Text="This answer corrects the spelling and confirms some of the memories, but it doesn't provide any real &quot;insight&quot; - what is the function/purpose of the pinions? Are there any resources that would provide more information?" CreationDate="2012-10-10T18:23:48.897" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2802" PostId="1263" Score="1" Text="That's a very interesting assertion; I don't doubt it, but I echo @JohnP's request for more details, because it would help me to understand something about Krav Maga.   Reference/resource would also make it more responsivev to the OP." CreationDate="2012-10-10T18:26:26.353" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2803" PostId="1511" Score="0" Text="I think 'clean' is the point then, not uniform in colour." CreationDate="2012-10-11T04:11:10.610" UserId="48" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2804" PostId="1511" Score="0" Text="@Rophuine non-uniform colour is a huge indicator that it's not clean." CreationDate="2012-10-11T15:53:59.880" UserId="565" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2805" PostId="260" Score="0" Text="Do you have a source for the hidden techniques?  (I agree with you, and I've been told this, but I have always wanted a source/citation)." CreationDate="2012-10-12T10:53:32.523" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2807" PostId="363" Score="0" Text="+1 for martial *intent*. Perhaps the difference between exercise and martial practice..." CreationDate="2012-10-12T16:20:58.510" UserId="682" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2808" PostId="1129" Score="0" Text="&gt;Seems to me that the https://www.mmafightgearonline.com/Articles.asp?ID=131 link is dead at this time." CreationDate="2012-10-13T21:32:39.243" UserId="269" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2809" PostId="1129" Score="0" Text="aw man, that sucks.  it had some good pictures.  good thing we pasted the rules in the answer!" CreationDate="2012-10-15T13:38:32.237" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2810" PostId="704" Score="0" Text="Generally speaking, a true charge since it's a riskier maneuver against a cautious advance (though depending on your sparring rules, this may be more or less true)." CreationDate="2012-10-15T19:14:12.010" UserId="338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2812" PostId="1520" Score="3" Text="I think [this](http://www.jujutsu.org.uk/articles/jujitsu) explains it all." CreationDate="2012-10-16T12:37:50.940" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2813" PostId="1521" Score="2" Text="We have another question that asks about [the specific risks of concussions](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/998/347), which might be relevant to your question here." CreationDate="2012-10-16T13:44:00.217" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2814" PostId="1524" Score="1" Text="So jiu jitsu and other spellings should point to Ju jutsu tag." CreationDate="2012-10-16T14:34:25.880" UserId="746" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2815" PostId="1524" Score="1" Text="If my assertions are correct, then yes they should." CreationDate="2012-10-16T14:35:21.900" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2816" PostId="1524" Score="0" Text="@THelper comment somwhat confirms it." CreationDate="2012-10-16T14:40:46.357" UserId="746" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2817" PostId="260" Score="0" Text="@MarkC.Wallace: Answer edited." CreationDate="2012-10-16T14:48:59.527" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2818" PostId="1524" Score="3" Text="Questions about tags should be brought up on the [meta]. Incidentally, you may also want to look at [this answer](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/198/15) from a previous discussion." CreationDate="2012-10-16T16:50:07.880" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2819" PostId="1505" Score="0" Text="I would object to the rule no. 7 as this only applies in certain cultures (i.e. US and other ovelawyered countries)" CreationDate="2012-10-16T20:25:22.260" UserId="424" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2820" PostId="1428" Score="1" Text="I take issue with the claim that pole weapons are slow. To claim that polearms are slow to move, means you have next to no experience in handling one or fighting against one. In even moderately skilled hands, the pole arm can be extremely fast, powerful and dangerous weapon. It's only voulnerability is its length - it is next to unusable in confined spaces and once an opponent gets inside its reach, it is useless against shorter weapons." CreationDate="2012-10-16T20:51:16.223" UserId="424" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2821" PostId="1505" Score="1" Text="@RolandTepp: I have trained with self employed people who, if injured, would have been unable to work.  Thus, insurance was essential in case they got injured so they did not becoming homeless.  It had nothing to do with being sued.  Although, *I am not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV* and I am aware that suing is a favourite past time in some countries.  I guess what the point is about &quot;**protecting yourself from medical and legal expenses**&quot;.  AKA self defence." CreationDate="2012-10-17T07:08:54.380" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2822" PostId="1521" Score="1" Text="I would find it very difficult to answer this question. What do you mean by &quot;dangerous&quot;?  Are you asking about the incidence of minor injuries (bruises, jams, sprains) or about the incidence of major long term injuries?  e.g. dementia pugilistica?  When you say &quot;kickboxing&quot; which of the many different rulesets do you mean?" CreationDate="2012-10-17T10:36:01.550" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2823" PostId="1428" Score="2" Text="That long pole weapons are relatively slow to move (excepting the &quot;offset double cone&quot; range of movement allowed by pivoting or levering action) is not controversial. There are good techniques for quickly pivoting, and I love them too. But however well-wielded, it takes more time and energy to move the tip of a 2m or 3m weapon through N degrees of arc than it does a shorter, lighter weapon. Longer poles and/or glaive blades make the weapon even heavier and slower. So if you keep your opponent at effective range, you're golden. If they outflank you or slip inside your range, OH NO!" CreationDate="2012-10-17T21:08:33.843" UserId="562" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2824" PostId="1527" Score="3" Text="Ask your local law enforcement. Laws in the US vary by state, for example last I knew in California it was illegal to have certain weapons unless you were specifically on your way to/from a class, while in Arizona the same weapon is legal at any time." CreationDate="2012-10-18T14:28:27.780" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2826" PostId="1527" Score="4" Text="I think this is an interesting question, but not a good MA:SE exchange question - the answer is (a) intrinsically local, since the answers apply only to one country and (b) the skills/techniques involved are legal research, not martial arts." CreationDate="2012-10-18T15:47:52.257" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2827" PostId="1527" Score="0" Text="@MarkC.Wallace: It would be quiet easy to change the question so that it is clearly relevant to MA.se and not localised.  Perhaps $admin could edit it?" CreationDate="2012-10-19T13:51:52.867" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2828" PostId="1527" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion, I'm skeptical that it can be de-localized. How would you do it?" CreationDate="2012-10-19T14:07:03.710" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2829" PostId="1527" Score="0" Text="@MarkC.Wallace: *What is the best way to find out my rights and restrictions on carrying training weapons that are used in my martial art club. Note that no restrictions is put on weapons: life blades, wooden, metal, spiked, and all that jazz are possible.* On a side note, this is all semantics." CreationDate="2012-10-19T14:17:47.407" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2830" PostId="1527" Score="3" Text="Discussion around topicality/localization/closing belongs on the [meta](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com)." CreationDate="2012-10-19T16:41:24.950" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2831" PostId="1535" Score="3" Text="Any source for this?" CreationDate="2012-10-22T08:49:25.700" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2832" PostId="1534" Score="3" Text="Welcome to the site!  The first sentence make for a poor answer.  Do you have a summary of your research?  Anything published?  What are your sources?  Making bold claims is easy and unless you can bake them up, it makes what you have to say irrelevant.  I do not mean to be mean, just pointing out how to improve your answer.  Hope this help." CreationDate="2012-10-22T08:54:22.947" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2833" PostId="1534" Score="2" Text="Like @Sardathrion, I'd like to learn more of the research." CreationDate="2012-10-22T10:39:26.143" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2834" PostId="1534" Score="1" Text="Welcome @minimatt! Please have a look at our [faq] to get a better idea of what this site is and how it works. Sources or research of some kind would be extremely beneficial and make this a better answer. Don't just give the &quot;what&quot; but also provide a how/why behind your answer." CreationDate="2012-10-22T18:04:12.457" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2835" PostId="1535" Score="0" Text="I'm with @Sardathrion. I'd love to hear more about this, including a source if you have one." CreationDate="2012-10-22T21:22:21.517" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2836" PostId="1535" Score="0" Text="I have studied Karate with various instructors and all but one have used this method, so mostly this is from personal experience but the instructors that have used this technique have all made the same statement" CreationDate="2012-10-23T03:15:07.547" UserId="757" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2837" PostId="1537" Score="0" Text="Thanks! Excellent answer. In my class we'd describe it as a &quot;soft block&quot; which for us includes cover techniques and deflections.  That may be simply a difference in how we are defining things, or it may be a notational term based on the &quot;looks like&quot; principle, i.e., &quot;this isn't originally conceived as a 'block,' but it looks and flows a lot like the soft techniques we practice, so we call it one.&quot;" CreationDate="2012-10-23T15:10:15.217" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2840" PostId="1539" Score="0" Text="While I agree with your point #1, I think a better answer would explain *how* they correct my mistakes. If my back is not straight, my form won't look right, but how will I see and correct that? (unless you're implying that the value of forms is as a part of coaching/instruction.)  Similarly I think #2 is probably true, but I'm not sure I understand *how* that exercise helps.  How does sparring from kata differ from sparring without kata?  #3 is good. My teacher does this all the time; I may hate it, but it works." CreationDate="2012-10-24T11:33:01.773" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2846" PostId="1539" Score="0" Text="#1. if you doing something wrong, doing the kata would get uncomfortable; also, it's not that hard to compare what you see in the mirror with the video recording of some master doing the kata." CreationDate="2012-10-24T15:55:27.227" UserId="759" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2847" PostId="1539" Score="0" Text="#2. I strongly believe that every great kata has lots of good moves &quot;zipped&quot; into it -&gt; if you are using moves from the kata and nothing else, your brain will have no choice but to start using all these moves for real, not just a like a ritual dance, and if style is good and practical - these moves will help you to fight" CreationDate="2012-10-24T15:56:02.127" UserId="759" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2848" PostId="1539" Score="0" Text="#3. Personally, I love these riddles, we found lots of good stuff we couldn't see before" CreationDate="2012-10-24T15:57:05.073" UserId="759" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2850" PostId="1542" Score="1" Text="Could you provide some context?  Are you seeing these terms used in some publication?" CreationDate="2012-10-25T11:56:40.313" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2851" PostId="1309" Score="2" Text="attempting a rear naked choke is hard. It is easy to defend wearing a judogi." CreationDate="2012-10-25T14:46:16.107" UserId="212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2852" PostId="1548" Score="1" Text="I believe that foams (to a certain degree) rely upon the air trapped in the foam structure and this dissapates over time, whereas gels are just a dense viscous liquid." CreationDate="2012-10-26T23:38:57.590" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2859" PostId="1552" Score="2" Text="There are not enough details here - what is the warm up? Is it mainly aerobic or anaerobic? What is your eating like before the the workout? Do you have any underlying medical problems? Please add more relevant details!" CreationDate="2012-10-29T00:35:02.767" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2863" PostId="1552" Score="0" Text="@slugster I've edited question and added anything that might be related." CreationDate="2012-10-29T19:10:45.297" UserId="90" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2864" PostId="1552" Score="1" Text="How bad do you get tired during these &quot;warm-ups&quot;? Are you just tired, do you get totally gassed, can you finish? Is the problem that you're tired at the end, or that you're getting worse over time, or that you're *REALLY* tired at the end?" CreationDate="2012-10-29T19:51:18.193" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2865" PostId="1552" Score="0" Text="@Dave Liepmann : For example I do half of push-ups and have problems with concentration while practicing after &quot;warmup&quot;. After lesson I feel tired but good and wake up walking dead next day. It gets worse over time until next longer break(summer vacation or winter holidays)." CreationDate="2012-10-29T20:58:19.113" UserId="90" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2866" PostId="1555" Score="4" Text="Agree about the BMI - it's the crappiest metric one can use because it doesn't account for muscle mass." CreationDate="2012-10-29T21:35:31.997" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2868" PostId="1552" Score="1" Text="This is tricky. Many factors come into play. Jump rope, for instance, can help you develop further stamina / aerobic potential. Do you sleep enough? Do you sleep well? What do you eat? Do you recover well after a workout, or not? If you don't recover well, adding more activities will just damage you more." CreationDate="2012-10-28T22:13:59.607" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2869" PostId="1555" Score="1" Text="I've read the article and you proved me that warm ups are bad designed. I will do second attempt to remove sweets from my diet (I've already tried once) and also add some activities outside class." CreationDate="2012-10-31T09:27:26.863" UserId="90" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2870" PostId="1555" Score="0" Text="@teodozjan That sounds like an excellent approach. Good luck." CreationDate="2012-10-31T13:29:38.880" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2871" PostId="1555" Score="0" Text="@teodozjan Specific questions about removing sugar from the diet in order to improve your endurance/fitness would be a good fit for [fitness.SE]" CreationDate="2012-10-31T16:04:07.973" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2872" PostId="1465" Score="0" Text="Hi Guys, just a note to say I passed my grading. Orange in jujutsu now :)" CreationDate="2012-10-31T23:53:44.743" UserId="443" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2873" PostId="1557" Score="5" Text="There is a lot of info on [this page](http://www.butthan.net/home.html)" CreationDate="2012-11-01T09:52:31.753" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2874" PostId="1557" Score="0" Text="@THelper I found the link earlier. I'd like to know if someone has some experience on this and know this well." CreationDate="2012-11-01T12:39:16.407" UserId="378" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2875" PostId="1556" Score="1" Text="i agree 100% with this answer.  get more fit is all fine and dandy, but judging by the &quot;i wake up tired&quot; and i eat a lot of sugar.  it's likely not a fitness problem.  Fix your diet and it's amazing how much more &quot;fit&quot; a person will seem." CreationDate="2012-11-01T17:45:57.623" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2876" PostId="1552" Score="1" Text="&quot;I eat a lot of sugar due to intellectual work &quot;...I'm a programmer also, it hasn't caused me to eat a lot of sugar.  I don't see how that would help you do intellectual work at all." CreationDate="2012-11-02T15:38:32.360" UserId="215" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2877" PostId="1557" Score="3" Text="The question is quite broad and overly general. Can you try to narrow it down some more?" CreationDate="2012-11-03T04:12:03.053" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2878" PostId="1559" Score="1" Text="What is contradicted? What about it merits further research? And shouldn't Wendy's analysis be taken with a grain of salt after she says something as frankly ignorant as &quot;I would never practice chokes with a face-down opponent&quot;, after admitting she has essentially no experience with judo, an art in which choking people face-down happens hundreds of times worldwide literally every day?" CreationDate="2012-11-04T01:33:31.793" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2879" PostId="1194" Score="0" Text="Do you have any reports of any of these things happening in the course of martial arts training?" CreationDate="2012-11-04T04:41:01.843" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2881" PostId="37" Score="0" Text="@MarkC.Wallace Any word? I'd be interested in any brain scans that showed problems from chokes." CreationDate="2012-11-04T04:49:31.777" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2882" PostId="1194" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann: Carotis sinus massage is a known therapy for supraventricular tachycardia, and a known cause of vagovasal syncope. I recall seeing the latter once with school kids choking each other. Shock kidney is something I've seen 4 or 5 times in my life in people who were &quot;fine&quot; after trauma with shock. Death due to aneurism in _young_ people is admittely something that I do NOT remember seeing ever, but it is something that can conceivably happen given a) enough &quot;stimulation&quot; and b) being unlucky to have an aneurism." CreationDate="2012-11-04T12:51:14.407" UserId="559" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2883" PostId="1194" Score="0" Text="Can you tell us what caused the shock kidney trauma? I assume it wasn't martial arts training. And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't vasovagal syncope via carotid sinus massage the *goal* of training chokes, and a large part of the subject of the question itself?" CreationDate="2012-11-04T17:44:56.450" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2884" PostId="1194" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann: The reason of shock kidney is an extreme hypotonia, whatever the reason (that's secondary). I can't tell about vasovagal syncopes being a &quot;training goal&quot;, but in my opinion this would be a rather stupid goal, as it is dangerous. You could as well have your partner stab you in the eyes or repeatedly kick you in the testicles (without protection ofc) to &quot;harden&quot; them. Some things are just dangerous, and one shouldn't do them, simply _because_ they're dangerous. Doing dangerous things for &quot;training&quot; leads to Bad Things Happening™. Maybe not the first time, but eventually." CreationDate="2012-11-04T18:48:46.500" UserId="559" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2885" PostId="1194" Score="1" Text="I feel like we're in danger of some circular reasoning. If I understand correctly, the point of training chokes is to force the partner to tap out before they experience a vasovagal syncope. We're trying to determine how dangerous it is if our partner passes out before tapping. As my answer details, all studies of this kind of training seem to show that there is minimal or no risk involved, as long as basic precautions are taken. Saying &quot;choking them unconscious is dangerous because they're unconscious&quot; doesn't really shed light on the situation. Or did I not catch part of your position?" CreationDate="2012-11-04T20:53:46.753" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2886" PostId="1194" Score="0" Text="My position is that unconsciousness is already a dangerous, possibly lethal condition when fully equipped medical professionals are attending. Even more so when they are _not_, in a dojo or in a backyard. Practicing martial arts, more than anything else, means learning responsibility, and avoiding unnecessary damage to one's self and others. It is markedly easy to injure, maim, or kill a healthy person, even without intent. As for the studies you posted, I did not check them for methodic validity because they are meaningless for the matter (and some are outright cynical). When you read things" CreationDate="2012-11-05T10:48:59.083" UserId="559" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2887" PostId="1194" Score="0" Text="such as _&quot;mild tonic and clonic seizure [...] No deleterious effects&quot;_ you have to ask yourself &quot;WTF?&quot;, and when someone says _&quot;...regained consciousness EEG returned to normal&quot;_ you have to ask: &quot;yeah, well, what else?&quot;. A normal brain will _of course_ show a normal EEG, but that does not mean that it's not dangerous to choke that person to unconsciousness. Look into studies about cardiovascular effects of seizures or sudden unexpected death in epilepsy to get an idea of why seizures _might be considered deleterious_ (tip: 5-fold increase in mortality)." CreationDate="2012-11-05T10:51:55.557" UserId="559" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2888" PostId="1194" Score="0" Text="Let me provide an analogy: You're sitting at a dirty table in a bamboo hut while the person on the other end of the table keeps shouting &quot;đi đi mau&quot; at you. You put a revolver into your mouth and pull the trigger... CLICK. You're alive and have no ill effects. Your brain shows a normal EEG. You repeat the experiment 4 more times, still no ill effects are observed. _Conclusion:_ You can put a gun into your mouth for training purposes, there is nothing to be afraid of. -- How reasonable do you deem this conclusion?" CreationDate="2012-11-05T11:41:35.020" UserId="559" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2889" PostId="1194" Score="0" Text="Explaining that in your answer would make it more clear. Thanks." CreationDate="2012-11-05T14:19:06.320" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2890" PostId="1194" Score="0" Text="I still disagree, and point to the massive numbers of people doing this *every day* without falling dead, as noted in Kowai, and without noted deleterious long-term effects, per Rodriguez, Vitali, &amp; Nobili (and others), though I acknowledge that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." CreationDate="2012-11-05T14:25:08.500" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2891" PostId="866" Score="0" Text="_&quot;The LVNR system has specific after care guidelines. Officers must obtain field medical clearance for subjects who were placed in the LVNR whether they were rendered unconscious or not. There is a mandatory 2 hour observation period for anyone who has had the LVNR applied. [...] not to be applied to people with cardiac disorders, children&quot;_ -- this very clearly suggests that they are not at all concerned about potential ill effects or lethalities :-)" CreationDate="2012-11-05T16:42:34.007" UserId="559" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2892" PostId="866" Score="0" Text="@Damon Kowai goes into fair detail describing how law enforcement's LVNR should not be considered the same as properly trained and applied martial arts chokes. I would also be interested to see if the after-care guidelines were based in medicine or were just a legal way to cover their behind." CreationDate="2012-11-05T17:36:09.697" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2893" PostId="1559" Score="0" Text="This &quot;ignorant&quot; statement shows that she has an understanding of human physiology (not very surprising considering her profession) and at least a minimum of responsibility. The fact that something happens hundreds of times every day has absolutely no bearing. In Pamplona, thousands participate in bull running every year. During the last 80 years, only 15 people have died due to injuries. According to your reasoning, one could argue that running down a narrow street followed by two dozen angry and panicking bulls is perfectly safe, reasonable, and advisable." CreationDate="2012-11-05T18:28:41.857" UserId="559" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2894" PostId="1559" Score="0" Text="@Damon That's a caricature of my reasoning. 15 people dying is at least a fairly serious chance of injury compared to 0 people dying from training chokes with the basic precautions noted in my answer, as Kowai and various judo organizations have noted. The data shows that our time would be better spent warning people about poorly applied *uchimata* attacks that endanger the neck. Let me put it this way: is there *any* data that could conceivably convince you that chokes are safe?" CreationDate="2012-11-05T19:42:55.467" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2895" PostId="1559" Score="2" Text="Her statement is equivalent to saying &quot;I would never practice a header in soccer, because although I've never played the sport, it looks like it would cause cerebral hemorrhages.&quot; It's quite clearly a statement that is ignorant of the plain fact that millions of people *do* practice these things *with no evidence of ill effect either chronic or acute*. Judo is one of the top practiced sports in the world. Wouldn't you think we'd have had at least one case of someone falling down dead from a choke by now, if it were going to happen?" CreationDate="2012-11-05T19:46:16.907" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2896" PostId="1559" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann asks to what contradiction I refer. In an earlier post, I'd mentioned that MD's in my dojo claim to have seen evidence of brain damage resulting from chokeholds.  I freely admit I'm not an MD and I don't pretend to have the knowledge to interpret or explain a brain scan.  The article I cite in this answer contradicts the evidence I offered earlier.  To my mind, that contradiction means that I should do further research.  I *did not* intend to create this level of heat/fractious argument.  I was just trying to be responsible about my earlier claim." CreationDate="2012-11-05T21:21:18.637" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2897" PostId="1559" Score="0" Text="@MarkC.Wallace The last sentence makes a lot more sense now :) And I apologize for the way I phrased my comment--I didn't mean for it to come across as attacking you or anyone. I just thought her statement was pretty incredible." CreationDate="2012-11-05T21:40:22.047" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2898" PostId="1559" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann: I'm need not be convinced that choking is safe, because I'm not opposing to choking as such. I'm sounding a note of caution about choking in general (there is a human attached to that piece of meat on the floor), and I'm opposing to choking without reason, in particular _to unconsciousness_ which is a big difference. As I've pointed out, unconsciousness is a life threatening condition, no matter how often you deny this, and no matter what kind of study you dig out that says this or that metric returns to normal after regaining consciousness." CreationDate="2012-11-06T00:42:26.847" UserId="559" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2899" PostId="1559" Score="0" Text="About lack of evidence of ill effects, again, this means nothing at all. It is something that neither you (nor your judo association) can assert. I am a MD, and heck, I can't. It is very possible for someone to die in a car accident or cardiovascular event _caused by_ unconsciousness or convulsions or hypotension, maybe days later. It will never be correlated to choking, and nobody will know. The only thing that is 100% certain is that unconsciousness and convulsions have a higher overall mortality (both immediate and long-term) than not having either of these." CreationDate="2012-11-06T00:48:38.717" UserId="559" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2900" PostId="1559" Score="0" Text="Quick Google brought up: [A 26-year-old amateur MMA fighter named Dustin Jenson died last Thursday, after suffering a seizure following a triangle-choke loss to Hayden Hensrud at a Ring Wars event](http://www.cagepotato.com/amateur-fighter-dustin-jenson-dies-following-unregulated-mma-event-in-south-dakota/). Admittedly not precisely judo training, but you get my point. Young people can die, and if it happens 1 out of 100,000 -- if you're the one who killed a 26 old, you wish you had been more careful for the rest of your life." CreationDate="2012-11-06T00:54:05.657" UserId="559" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2901" PostId="33" Score="5" Text="When we teach chokes, we also teach a method to revive some one from choke.  Please get training in this from someone qualified before trying it, but loosely speaking we seat the person on the floor, kneel behind them with a knee bracking their spine and gently pull the arms back  to expand the chest.  That isn't directly responsive to your question, but I'd want to know it if I were in your situation." CreationDate="2012-11-06T13:47:54.520" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2902" PostId="37" Score="0" Text="I'll try and quiz the MD's in the dojo again on Saturday." CreationDate="2012-11-06T13:48:45.780" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2903" PostId="1559" Score="0" Text="@Damon That tragedy is a great example of why we should regulate MMA and screen fighters, but the fact is we don't know whether he died because of punches, kicks, knees, the choke, or any of those plus a pre-existing medical condition. Plus, he didn't pass out, which makes this case totally tangential to the discussion here." CreationDate="2012-11-06T17:37:46.447" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2904" PostId="1562" Score="0" Text="? is this a martial arts question? or is this a fitness question?" CreationDate="2012-11-09T12:29:18.847" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2905" PostId="1566" Score="2" Text="That ego comment is key - a lot of times, we get frustrated because we believe &quot;we should be better.&quot;  That's ego talking, not pride.  Don't stop getting frustrated by mistakes - that's fuel you can use to get better; but do let go of the belief that you should somehow magically be awesome right from the get go :)" CreationDate="2012-11-12T19:44:27.427" UserId="338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2906" PostId="1530" Score="3" Text="+1, with the caveat that the Nihon-Shiki and Kunrei-Shiki systems aren't &quot;closer to the Japanese pronunciation&quot;, just more consistent. Hepburn is much closer to the Standard Japanese pronunciation, it just doesn't capture the underlying phonological relationships  between syllables -- e.g. the T-series written _ta/chi/tsu/te/to_ in Hepburn vs. _ta/ti/tu/te/to_ in NS or KS. (For even more than you ever wanted to know, see the &quot;[Palatalization and affrication](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_phonology#Palatalization_and_affrication)&quot; section of Wikipedia's Japanese Phonology article.)" CreationDate="2012-11-12T23:54:16.173" UserId="790" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2907" PostId="923" Score="0" Text="On iaido vs. iaijutsu -- if you're counting Eishin Ryu as iaijutsu, then I wouldn't write off starting your search among iaido schools. Generally what I've found is that the AUSKF-affiliated iaido instructors will start off with ZNKR (&quot;seitei&quot;) iaido and move on to a more traditional school such as Eishin Ryu as you get more advanced. And even seitei iai will teach you a lot about working with a real sword." CreationDate="2012-11-13T00:15:29.413" UserId="790" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2909" PostId="1567" Score="2" Text="-1 for a mix of personal opinion with misconception. The reason Karate practitioners practice in TKD clubs is because there is a requirement to hold a belt in WTF style TKD to be eligible for WTF tournaments. As long as that is met, any practitioner (Muay Thai, etc) can compete for a spot as long as they follow the qualifying rules in their country. Very doubtful a bare knuckle/knockout style would be allowed, as safety is paramount. Referencing boxing, compare pro boxing with Olympic and the differences in gear/scoring, all in the name of safety. There are also stringent governing body reqs." CreationDate="2012-11-13T15:07:06.847" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2914" PostId="1564" Score="0" Text="You are welcome.  Let us know if any suggestions were helpful down the line." CreationDate="2012-11-14T10:41:40.903" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2916" PostId="1219" Score="0" Text="BTW, we just had a third TKD person join our class and he isn't bouncy. It's probably got more to do with the person than the style." CreationDate="2012-11-15T22:35:11.850" UserId="443" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2917" PostId="1572" Score="0" Text="Our aikido school does train with rubber guns." CreationDate="2012-11-16T11:48:37.347" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2918" PostId="1572" Score="0" Text="Does it have gun forms/kata the same as it might have for sword or staff?" CreationDate="2012-11-16T18:39:04.490" UserId="792" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2919" PostId="1572" Score="0" Text="Gun tachidori is included in one of our upper level kata - I can't remember which one right now.  (It is a relatively obscure kata that we practice rarely)." CreationDate="2012-11-16T18:44:47.887" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2920" PostId="1572" Score="0" Text="Ah, that's interesting. Does it focus on the student wielding their own gun or defending against? I've seen the latter here and there, but not so much the use of one's own." CreationDate="2012-11-16T20:45:53.023" UserId="792" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2921" PostId="1573" Score="4" Text="I found Fight Science and Human Weapon nice for the physics breakdowns." CreationDate="2012-11-16T20:53:14.567" UserId="33" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2922" PostId="1573" Score="0" Text="I would agree with Fight Science and Human Weapon." CreationDate="2012-11-16T23:18:14.140" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2923" PostId="1535" Score="1" Text="I've seen this as a method used by AJ Advincula in Isshinryu, but the applications were beyond silly. I think this is a modern invention." CreationDate="2012-11-18T06:58:56.903" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2924" PostId="1539" Score="0" Text="@SteveV But empirically, we find that many styles are not good, and not practical." CreationDate="2012-11-18T07:00:32.297" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2925" PostId="1539" Score="1" Text="@DaveLiepmann sure thing (especially since lots of styles were &quot;watered down&quot; in order to make them safe for studying; however, katas in these styles often would still have practical and dangerous moves from &quot;original version&quot; of the style; of course, students would be given no explanations and will continue to do the katas as a &quot;traditional thing to do&quot;, just because these katas are still part of the curriculum." CreationDate="2012-11-18T10:39:37.520" UserId="759" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2926" PostId="1539" Score="0" Text="@SteveV Good point. I allow for the possibility that some karate/kungfu/silat styles were originated by people who didn't know how to fight, and so even the original forms had moves that were impractical and ineffective." CreationDate="2012-11-18T15:06:05.513" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2927" PostId="1573" Score="3" Text="I would emphasize that these shows are shooting for *sciencey*, not science. The veneer of science, through whiz-bang graphics and a dash of technobabble, is plenty for them. Using electronics to measure one punch is more sciencey than it is science." CreationDate="2012-11-18T15:51:58.023" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2929" PostId="1580" Score="0" Text="@MattChan Isn't losing weight over time with the goal of lower BF% a dramatically different question from how to cut water weight temporarily for weigh-ins? I don't think these are duplicates of each other unless we say all weight cutting is the same." CreationDate="2012-11-19T00:36:56.167" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2930" PostId="1578" Score="0" Text="What are you there to learn?" CreationDate="2012-11-19T00:37:36.900" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2931" PostId="1580" Score="1" Text="@DaveLiepmann I see your point. I'll reopen it. The question could use some work though." CreationDate="2012-11-19T01:45:38.113" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2932" PostId="1572" Score="0" Text="Tachidori - removing the gun from the attacker.  It is part of the goshin ho no kata - We tried to practice it Saturday, but we realized that nobody remembered the whole kata....." CreationDate="2012-11-19T11:26:32.970" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2933" PostId="1581" Score="1" Text="Good Answer!  And +1 in particular for &quot;*If you feel like that what you're doing in class is useless or isn't right for you, then you are always free to choose something else or go somewhere else.*&quot;" CreationDate="2012-11-19T14:28:51.430" UserId="33" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2935" PostId="1583" Score="0" Text="&quot;Don't Guzzle water like crazy right away, take your time to rehydrate or it'll go right through you&quot; do you have a cite for that?  It is the core of a persistent argument between myself and my sweetheart." CreationDate="2012-11-19T16:45:00.253" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2936" PostId="1583" Score="0" Text="Other then experience, not really.  This article talks about it a bit: &#xA;http://combatsportsclinic.com/2011/10/26/weight-cutting-rehydration-and-recovery-part-2/" CreationDate="2012-11-19T16:54:32.760" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2939" PostId="1581" Score="0" Text="Thank you for your answer...I think I really knew deep down that would be the answer...The style is QiGong and there are only 3 registered students. I like the stretching exercises because it makes me more flexible and have better balance, but, I like the Movements more..and feel that they are very peaceful and relaxing, which is why I enrolled in the class. I do think 3 weeks without reviewing the Movements is a long time not to check if they are being executed correctly or being practiced making mistakes. I would not speak to my instructor of this because I do feel it would be disrespectful" CreationDate="2012-11-19T14:37:30.797" UserId="794" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2940" PostId="1581" Score="0" Text="(_a continuation of the previous comment converted from an answer_) ... that is why I found a forum to ask these questions. I really appreciate your taking the time and your imput. I will try to have more patience. The class is only once a week." CreationDate="2012-11-19T20:22:47.433" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2941" PostId="1585" Score="0" Text="Thanks for showing up and giving such a detailed answer! By the way, I trained under Sensei Ken Smith when he was up in Massachusetts, until he (and I, actually) moved in 1998. I see that your school is about 10 minutes from where he is, now (http://www.villarisroyalpalm.com/index.html). Have you met him? How's things going for him? I'm sure he probably doesn't remember me, at this point. I greatly enjoyed his training, though." CreationDate="2012-11-19T21:29:30.593" UserId="334" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2942" PostId="1577" Score="0" Text="Thanks. That's pretty interesting information. May I recommend reorganizing it in the more classical format : thesis / antithesis / synthesis, instead of showing the antithesis first?" CreationDate="2012-11-19T22:22:07.097" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2943" PostId="1577" Score="1" Text="@Trevoke I'm not 100% sure which parts you regard as which, but I organized it in order of relevance to the majority of readers. That is, I think people should know that my experience of solo kata was that they're often useless, that they have major drawbacks for the purposes people claim they're used for, and they have some minor benefits, though historically they were used as a kludge or for militaristic indoctrination." CreationDate="2012-11-19T22:29:28.443" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2944" PostId="1342" Score="0" Text="UFC 146, Junior Dos Santos vs Frank Mir: even if Mir want to go to the ground this never happen ..." CreationDate="2012-11-19T22:54:31.267" UserId="412" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2945" PostId="1346" Score="2" Text="-1.  See [The Body in Motion: Its Evolution and Design by Theodore Dimon](http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1556439709/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00).  Humans have evolved to be upright bipedal.  Normal humans have a centre of mass in the same place as the geometric centre (just below the navel) and therefore cannot be &quot;top heavy&quot;." CreationDate="2012-11-20T08:05:53.937" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2946" PostId="1346" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion Yes, we have, and we're not particularly good at it. Most peoples' awareness of where they are in space is poor at best. And here in New Jersey, the people that tend to get in to fights tend towards top-heavy. Also, bodies in fights tend to flail, most of that flailing occurs on the top half, providing energy *well* above *both* COG and COM, further making it even worse. -1 all ya' want, but we suck at staying upright in fights." CreationDate="2012-11-20T10:05:16.243" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2947" PostId="1585" Score="0" Text="Excellent answer. Thorough, provides context, well written. Thanks." CreationDate="2012-11-20T10:52:44.973" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2948" PostId="432" Score="1" Text="Counter stslavik, there is a correlation between muscle strength and the power of one's strikes. How else would one move one's arm? Of course technique is important, but the idea that everyone who is strong is &quot;muscle bound&quot; is hogwash. Do sprinters shy away from deadlifts because they'll get too strong? (A: only if their deadlift is already awesome.)" CreationDate="2012-11-20T16:18:30.490" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2949" PostId="1342" Score="0" Text="@aberration Either MMA fights count as evidence, or they don't. If they do, then we have to look at the tremendous, overwhelming success and prevalence of going to the ground in many matches, particularly early UFCs like 1 to 15, as well as modern fights like GSP/Condit, where the fight was won on the ground. If MMA doesn't count as evidence, then why does Mir not taking down Dos Santos matter?" CreationDate="2012-11-20T18:09:32.253" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2950" PostId="1342" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I put this comment because of the previous comment about what happen when one fighter want to go to the ground (second comment). In the comment I understand that it's said that if one fighter want to go to the ground he will get is always get is wish. Just for said that not always the case." CreationDate="2012-11-21T01:41:11.610" UserId="412" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2954" PostId="761" Score="1" Text="About your update: it can take a number of months for that feeling to go away, you will be conscious of the mesh for some time. As an aside, the mesh repair has been linked with a lot of complications due to it being placed incorrectly - if you ever start to experience pain (rather than just totally minor discomfort) then follow up and go to the doctor." CreationDate="2012-11-21T08:46:53.897" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2955" PostId="1346" Score="4" Text="It hasn't been enough for a downvote, but I've always disagreed with the idea that humans don't stand so well. Wrestling a resisting opponent to the ground is *hard*." CreationDate="2012-11-21T16:25:54.903" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2960" PostId="1580" Score="0" Text="Any advice? Thank you so much :-)" CreationDate="2012-11-22T01:24:42.417" UserId="796" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2961" PostId="761" Score="0" Text="Thank you! Sure, I will do that :) I do however pray no such thing ever happens!" CreationDate="2012-11-22T09:09:28.153" UserId="367" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2962" PostId="1560" Score="2" Text="I was told it's a reference to the 7 stars of Ursa major - aka the plough. The body is the plough blade and the arms are the plough handle. Shrug. Word of mouth. Usually Wu Ying-Hua's book is good on names but nothing on this one." CreationDate="2012-11-23T13:19:38.700" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2963" PostId="769" Score="0" Text="Good answer.  I stopped showing my tai chi film collection at multi-style events as I got fed up of Tung/Dong family students and Yang family students banging on about who was the &quot;true lineage holder&quot;.  As a great master said &quot;Do or not do&quot;." CreationDate="2012-11-23T18:09:50.567" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2965" PostId="769" Score="0" Text="@Wudang Master Yoda...?" CreationDate="2012-11-23T22:07:43.923" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2966" PostId="769" Score="0" Text="Yes.  Or the longer version I used to have pinned in my training room &quot;We do not rise to the level of our expectations.  We fall to the level of our training&quot;.  Someone on rec.martial-arts many years ago" CreationDate="2012-11-23T23:20:49.463" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2967" PostId="1560" Score="0" Text="Thanks - this should have been an answer, rather than a comment. I'll look for Wu Ying-Hua's book." CreationDate="2012-11-24T01:31:23.690" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2974" PostId="9" Score="0" Text="A suggested edit to this answer above was to mention the value of the weights.  A light weight, as I mentioned above, will increase resistance and therefore overall speed and force of delivery. If you use progressively heavier weights, your technique should make use of gravity, but I can't recommend a particular safe technique for doing this." CreationDate="2012-11-25T09:32:39.687" UserId="19" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2975" PostId="416" Score="0" Text="+1 for the wrist roller.  I'd add carrying heavy bags just using the 2 middle fingers and switching to just 1 finger now and again" CreationDate="2012-11-27T00:05:10.527" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2976" PostId="33" Score="1" Text="[Here's a case](http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/8660482/sean-entin-life-choke) where someone familiar with jiujitsu was choked, **but not choked unconscious**, the choke &quot;felt different&quot;, and had a stroke three weeks later that he blames on that choke. If this were prevalent it would be worrying, but it seems more like a less-common relative of [*commotio cordis*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commotio_cordis), which is a pre-existing condition combined with normal athletic activity, which together causes death." CreationDate="2012-11-27T03:21:59.460" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2979" PostId="1606" Score="0" Text="Thank you for the clarifications.  The reasons you mention at the bottom of your post are exactly why we are concerned.  No one ever fails a test, so it seems sudden to have been given an invite for a test at all.  We would rather have her not take the tests and spend more time on the skills and just take the full belt tests when she is really ready to pass because she is ready for the next level." CreationDate="2012-11-27T18:07:57.997" UserId="816" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2980" PostId="1606" Score="0" Text="@balancedmama Something to try in this case is to shop around (if you have other arts around). Different instructors/schools will run things differently and your daughter's skills will be at least partly transferrable (i.e. she will start from the bottom again but will pick up the new art quickly). Cross training is generally an excellent way to build out your martial skills and you'll get to sample the new crowd/environment." CreationDate="2012-11-27T19:25:52.967" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2985" PostId="1456" Score="0" Text="Reach long applies to males; different advice is needed for females, who have their center of mass lower." CreationDate="2012-11-29T22:57:07.237" UserId="824" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2986" PostId="97" Score="3" Text="Most of this is good advise.  Especially: select a good instructor, based on how they treat their students, whether the students are joyful and confident, and there is a positive culture of learning.   This is more important than what style of aikido, or even whether to choose aikido versus another art (unless you already know aikido is the art for you--if you aren't sure, pick an instructor, not a style or art)." CreationDate="2012-11-29T23:00:29.817" UserId="824" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2987" PostId="579" Score="1" Text="Aikido, unless it has been diluted to a new age exercise program, remains a martial system.  Like -good- karatedo, it is a martial art of counter-response.  That is, we respond to attacks, perhaps by deascalating, or perhaps by a powerful throw (which to someone not trained in ukemi can be fatal), or perhaps with atemi, a joint lock, or some other nasty.  But the aggression--the attacks--are there.  The classic shihonage done to someone who doesn't know how to fall breaks their arm and their shoulder, then slams their head into the ground at high speed.  I would call that a counter attack." CreationDate="2012-11-29T23:20:27.023" UserId="824" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2988" PostId="1614" Score="3" Text="You had me on the history...and lost me with the idea that kicks aren't useful for fighting." CreationDate="2012-11-30T02:29:00.273" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2989" PostId="143" Score="0" Text="The whole not talking thing is a particular culture of some branches of aikido, and is no way indicative of quality either good or bad.  Its just a cultural quirk." CreationDate="2012-11-30T12:46:00.727" UserId="824" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2990" PostId="1616" Score="2" Text="-1 for the perpetuation of the mcdojo myths. There are legitimate reasons for all of the &quot;negative&quot; reasons you list (With the possible exception of emphasis on money), and none of that helps answer the OP's question." CreationDate="2012-11-30T16:55:03.903" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2991" PostId="1616" Score="0" Text="@JohnP I didn't say it was an absolute--I said it was a sign.  And that is true." CreationDate="2012-11-30T17:10:30.790" UserId="824" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2992" PostId="1618" Score="0" Text="Someone who would need to ask this question would not be able to evaluate number 2." CreationDate="2012-11-30T17:13:06.643" UserId="824" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2993" PostId="1618" Score="5" Text="Possibly. I've never played hockey, but I can go to a 'B' league event and tell if the team is well coached or not. It's a discussion point for sure, it may depend on their  (the prospective student's) own athletic background." CreationDate="2012-11-30T17:55:45.110" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2994" PostId="1616" Score="0" Text="This question is so close to an upvote, but the black-and-whiteness of the negatives, plus the idea that only someone with 20 years experience could judge someone's skill, makes me reluctantly leave it alone." CreationDate="2012-12-01T01:55:04.323" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2997" PostId="1622" Score="0" Text="40+ hours in what timeframe?" CreationDate="2012-12-03T03:31:20.583" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="2998" PostId="1622" Score="0" Text="I do about 3 classes a week" CreationDate="2012-12-03T22:57:29.000" UserDisplayName="user72" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3000" PostId="1620" Score="0" Text="This question is similar to [learning karate after a slip disc problem](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/1403/576). [I posted an answer there](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/1412/576) that I think applies to your issue as well." CreationDate="2012-12-04T13:55:14.067" UserId="576" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3001" PostId="1620" Score="0" Text="Thank you for your advice. I know the torment one goes through with slip disk and I commend your determination. Thank you for inspiring me and of course I will be careful before restarting my training." CreationDate="2012-12-04T15:12:04.993" UserId="828" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3002" PostId="1630" Score="1" Text="What are you getting the glove for? Training at a gym, training at home, hitting a bag, competition?" CreationDate="2012-12-05T01:51:41.897" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3004" PostId="1630" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Let's said for sparring in a gym but I would be also interested to known what kind of glove is used in competition." CreationDate="2012-12-05T04:25:54.237" UserId="412" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3006" PostId="1633" Score="0" Text="I'm not pro medical but my metacarpals injury lasted for 3 months (I didn't postpone sessions)." CreationDate="2012-12-05T11:05:51.690" UserId="90" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3007" PostId="1633" Score="0" Text="You haven't described the pain." CreationDate="2012-12-05T11:47:28.770" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3008" PostId="1633" Score="0" Text="If I turn with my wrist I can feel it. I can't do push ups because the pain is really annoying. I feel pain when there is pressure on my wrist. I hope this is enough." CreationDate="2012-12-05T12:45:12.460" UserId="500" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3009" PostId="1633" Score="3" Text="I'm not sure that this question belongs in MA:SE. You're asking for medical advice, not the advice of an experienced martial artist.  You may wish to consider revising the question to highlight martial arts (for example, &quot;What BJJ techniques will not strain my metatarsals?&quot;, or &quot;How can I adapt my BJJ training to compensate for an injured wrist?&quot;)." CreationDate="2012-12-05T14:24:35.667" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3011" PostId="1633" Score="1" Text="Lets see, a few months ago I suffered an injury. It hasn't healed and is impacting my training negatively. What should I do? I know, I'll ask the intertubes! Go to a doctor and get it checked already." CreationDate="2012-12-05T15:06:22.420" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3012" PostId="1633" Score="0" Text="If the question can be edited to bring it back more to MA it can be reopened.   Otherwise the answer starts with &quot;talk to a Doctor.&quot;" CreationDate="2012-12-05T16:48:41.473" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3013" PostId="1630" Score="2" Text="Competitions will often have requirements for gloves. For sparring and heavy bag I use 16oz gloves, personal preference. For choosing the size, try them on and see how they feel. Try different weight of gloves." CreationDate="2012-12-05T17:13:23.407" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3014" PostId="1635" Score="4" Text="A friend of mine noted that a remarkable number of barfights in Japan led to two drunk men vigorously trying to osotogari each other." CreationDate="2012-12-05T22:53:39.593" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3015" PostId="1635" Score="0" Text="Haha that's awesome" CreationDate="2012-12-06T01:39:52.607" UserId="215" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3016" PostId="1456" Score="1" Text="great answer David! I would have to disagree with SAJ14SAJ. &quot;Going for Distance&quot; aka Reaching Long  applies to male and female rollers." CreationDate="2012-12-06T15:16:00.340" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3017" PostId="1636" Score="0" Text="For have heavier glove why not use wrist weight?" CreationDate="2012-12-06T20:33:35.713" UserId="412" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3018" PostId="1628" Score="0" Text="The idea that it takes ten years to feel and use one's center is complete hogwash." CreationDate="2012-12-06T21:28:44.700" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3019" PostId="1628" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Gosh, I love how you always focus on four words out of a complete answer." CreationDate="2012-12-07T00:28:06.807" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3020" PostId="1636" Score="0" Text="The weight of gloves in fight depends on the weight division. As a welter or junior welter (-67kg) in muay thai (in europe) i usually got 10oz." CreationDate="2012-12-07T10:25:51.463" UserId="718" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3021" PostId="1346" Score="0" Text="@Dave Liepmann -- Probably in most cases, but I'm hoping to make it look easy at NAGA tomorrow :D" CreationDate="2012-12-07T16:07:58.727" UserId="215" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3022" PostId="1525" Score="0" Text="I edited your Livestrong link to point directly to the BBC reportage, though it still lacks a link to the study. (If you think I erred, please feel free to roll it back or re-edit.) I think the distinction between pro and amateur is worth noting here. My answer on concussions (linked above) addresses this." CreationDate="2012-12-07T16:37:15.423" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3023" PostId="1525" Score="0" Text="I would also question your use of the term &quot;short term&quot; to describe the evidence of brain injury in amateur boxing. From the article you link: &quot;The boxers who participated in the study competed on the top-level of Swedish boxing and all had fought at least 47 bouts.&quot; These are *world class* amateur boxers; the amateur refers to whether they take pro bouts, not their level of involvement in the sport, which is quite extensive and certainly not short term." CreationDate="2012-12-07T16:40:31.700" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3024" PostId="1525" Score="0" Text="Point taken.  Answer updated" CreationDate="2012-12-07T16:43:06.520" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3025" PostId="1636" Score="0" Text="aberration: that is an option, but would probably add to much weight.  &#xA;kioopi: That is very interesting. Around here ( in ontario, canada) I was under the impression that it was 16 all the time.  Could just be our government trying to hard to keep people safe." CreationDate="2012-12-07T17:57:30.963" UserId="21" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3026" PostId="1638" Score="0" Text="Thank you for your advice. I don't know what is it with early 20s and slip disk. I have heard many cases. Doctors here don't even consider it to be significant. I mean, its the spinal region we are talking about, please doctors show some concern. I had consulted almost a dozen of reputed specialists here in Bangalore, who dint even bother to explain what was happening with me. They all said I had slip disk and just suggested to undergo a surgery and I will be all right. I had to do a through research on the internet using the MRI report to understand what had happened." CreationDate="2012-12-08T07:15:43.913" UserId="828" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3027" PostId="1088" Score="0" Text="Solid Aluminium? Not hollow?" CreationDate="2012-12-10T03:36:59.477" UserId="83" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3029" PostId="1639" Score="1" Text="[I am not sure this question should on-topic here...](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/302/82)" CreationDate="2012-12-10T10:28:28.817" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3030" PostId="1643" Score="1" Text="+1 for the first three words.  No need to read the rest... ^_~" CreationDate="2012-12-11T10:50:10.327" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3031" PostId="1641" Score="2" Text="You should go see a doctor. I don't think anyone here should be trying to diagnose and treat your injured leg on this site." CreationDate="2012-12-11T13:26:18.900" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3033" PostId="1633" Score="0" Text="Physiotherapist - most times doctors will give you a pill if that. Unless they are sports specialists, they don't understand and can't tell you how to make an injury better." CreationDate="2012-12-12T19:07:55.217" UserId="179" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3034" PostId="1622" Score="0" Text="Find a really really good Tai Chi teacher - they'll fix that posture in a few weeks." CreationDate="2012-12-13T01:12:44.310" UserId="83" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3035" PostId="1652" Score="0" Text="Can you clarify the baseball bat analogy? I think any reasonable person would prefer being hit with a baseball bat end-on, rather than hit with a swing." CreationDate="2012-12-16T17:36:14.393" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3036" PostId="1652" Score="0" Text="@Dave Liepmann : of course, if your target is stationery and defenseless the conventional swing would work better, but if your opponent blocks your swing - what will you do? On the other hand, if that baseball bat does not actually move anywhere (the center of mass stays in place) but turns - that would be much quicker and harder to block. In short, it's a balance between power and speed; I haven't seen anyone able to do 10 &quot;traditional&quot; full-blown punches per second." CreationDate="2012-12-16T18:06:39.787" UserId="759" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3037" PostId="1655" Score="1" Text="Can you summarize the content from the link or quote relevant parts from it and use the link as a source? This will help prevent link rot in cases where the link will disappear or if its content changes." CreationDate="2012-12-18T04:44:05.517" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3038" PostId="1655" Score="1" Text="-1: Aikido is generally seen as an internal martial art but has plenty of &quot;explosive&quot; moves." CreationDate="2012-12-18T07:58:10.320" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3039" PostId="1655" Score="1" Text="Interesting set of analogies, and a different perspective on the question, but I'm not sure that I agree with you.  I'm not sure that this matches my experience in either Aikido or Taichi.  And as @MattChan suggests, a summary of the boxing clip would have helped." CreationDate="2012-12-18T13:10:23.070" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3040" PostId="1638" Score="1" Text="The thing with early 20's is that people of that age are stupid and inexperienced. When things hurt, they don't take it easy or seek the right medical attention, instead they try to push through as if they were indestructible and make it worse. In my case, I felt the pain in my leg, self-treated it as a pulled hamstring (and thus doing activities that actually made it worse). When I finally went to a doctor, they said &quot;I can tell from the way you're standing that the problem is your back, not your leg.&quot; Dumb kid." CreationDate="2012-12-18T19:55:31.217" UserId="698" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3041" PostId="1652" Score="3" Text="The &quot;directness&quot; and &quot;protection&quot; argument can be contested as many other martial arts and combat systems include punches that do not require loading or winding up to be effective and can be used to great effect in setting up more powerful punches that have more chances to induce a knockout (from the spin induced by the blow to your head) than a straight vertical punch while also maintaining a very adequate defensive position. Your other two points, however, perfectly describe how this punch works better for Wing Chun than other arts: it has great synergy with the stance favored by Wing Chun." CreationDate="2012-12-18T20:39:40.213" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3042" PostId="1578" Score="0" Text="I may not have had a complete picture of what it takes to perform Tai Chi...the Movements are beautiful, but did not realize how important the workouts leading up to it are. I will strive to work harder on my stretching and balancing...Thank you all for your imput it was much appreciated." CreationDate="2012-11-24T15:24:56.287" UserId="794" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3043" PostId="1362" Score="0" Text="I can't remember chunks of many of my 16 forms without starting from a few &quot;waypoints&quot; within the forms. So +1 for connecting dots!" CreationDate="2012-12-20T06:33:41.377" UserId="179" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3044" PostId="1357" Score="1" Text="@Ephraim - notes are reminders for things you need to focus on. They are &quot;what you are doing&quot; reminders, not a theory body for someone else to read." CreationDate="2012-12-20T06:37:47.797" UserId="179" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3045" PostId="1632" Score="0" Text="Does anyone have the direct translation of that Japanese quote? Would be good to edit that into this accepted answer." CreationDate="2012-12-20T15:33:59.317" UserId="579" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3046" PostId="1357" Score="0" Text="You can learn &quot;in practice&quot;, but a technique might have a specific tricky sequence of steps that you tend to forget while first learning it and you want to write it down while fresh in your mind so you can go over it again (mentally or for real) before the next class. Or your school may have a bunch of specific named or numbered techniques, and while you may execute them just fine you have trouble keeping the numbering or nomenclature straight and want to go over it every day until you have it down." CreationDate="2012-12-21T19:56:46.140" UserId="698" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3047" PostId="1660" Score="0" Text="Thank you for sharing your experience. I share your opinion on hojo undō and agree that modern training techniques are also part of hojo undō" CreationDate="2012-12-21T21:08:02.717" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3048" PostId="1660" Score="0" Text="@THelper Osu! Thanks. It's a great question." CreationDate="2012-12-21T21:40:11.110" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3049" PostId="1661" Score="3" Text="Did your doctor recommend a knee brace? This comes very close to medical recommendation." CreationDate="2012-12-22T15:32:40.483" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3050" PostId="1661" Score="1" Text="Yes, my physiotherapist said I could go for a knee band or a knee brace specially made for the jumpers knee. He didn't actuallly recommended one in specific. I can find both on the market but I wondered which suits best for fighting sports." CreationDate="2012-12-22T17:26:07.930" UserId="422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3051" PostId="1664" Score="1" Text="[Squat](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/1170/347)." CreationDate="2012-12-24T05:19:54.390" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3052" PostId="1666" Score="0" Text="Daito-ryu Aiki-jujutsu also being thought in our organization, and Hapkido being very similar, I can gather our horse stances should also be very similar. You give great advice, going into details where my answer might have been a bit on the short side. Have an upvote, sir, and merry christmas!" CreationDate="2012-12-24T20:46:54.703" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3053" PostId="160" Score="0" Text="This question should be considered along with http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/1504/457  and http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/80/457 and http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/1615/457" CreationDate="2012-12-26T14:26:02.377" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3054" PostId="100" Score="0" Text="Impressive answer. My sensei, a 7th dan Hanshi-ho, teaches us about the same way for side kicks." CreationDate="2012-12-27T03:36:46.873" UserId="352" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3055" PostId="1673" Score="2" Text="Could you clarify what the _question_ is?  That makes it easier for people to answer." CreationDate="2012-12-27T12:15:23.087" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3056" PostId="1673" Score="0" Text="i am sorry , i wanted to ask &quot;How to get rid of fear of fighting&quot;. When i get hit i am scared to get beaten more.  I am worried about my nose getting break which costs me to lose. But i love the sport." CreationDate="2012-12-27T12:20:47.010" UserId="873" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3057" PostId="1673" Score="1" Text="@John Please edit and update your question accordingly and add that information." CreationDate="2012-12-27T12:23:15.913" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3058" PostId="1674" Score="0" Text="Well thank you, My master even told the same. I believe i need to start fighting with my size of people first." CreationDate="2012-12-28T05:33:26.597" UserId="873" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3059" PostId="143" Score="0" Text="Time lost talking/receiving non-teacher explanations is not a cultural quirk, it's pragmatic benchmark." CreationDate="2012-12-28T01:54:38.257" UserId="10" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3060" PostId="1677" Score="0" Text="Which martial art?" CreationDate="2012-12-28T13:18:31.117" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3061" PostId="1673" Score="0" Text="related: http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/241/drills-for-reducing-your-natural-flinch-reaction" CreationDate="2012-12-28T14:35:36.480" UserId="33" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3062" PostId="1677" Score="0" Text="The art is Seido Karate" CreationDate="2012-12-28T22:12:01.377" UserId="841" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3063" PostId="1679" Score="1" Text="Are we talking about sparring for competitive purposes (points awarded) or sparring as a drill for martial purposes?" CreationDate="2012-12-29T00:02:20.617" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3064" PostId="1679" Score="1" Text="Good point - the intent was competitive. Edited for clarity." CreationDate="2012-12-30T00:47:42.203" UserId="338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3067" PostId="33" Score="0" Text="It's just plain bad practice to teach someone how to do a choke, and be practicing chokes, without knowing how to resuscitate someone that's unconscious." CreationDate="2012-12-30T04:49:43.507" UserDisplayName="user878" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3068" PostId="1685" Score="0" Text="Thanks a lot..i think i understand the answer...Your statement &quot;If i practice one art for 5 years&quot; was exactly i was looking for. I can divide the routine without affecting the earlier art." CreationDate="2012-12-31T05:54:41.003" UserId="873" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3069" PostId="1680" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the answer,,but honestly I am more confused with answer. But practically and with my regular profession i think i have to go with one martial art and have to manage in that. That is why my question was if i start with a different art, is it possible to switch to other one later." CreationDate="2012-12-31T06:04:11.967" UserId="873" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3070" PostId="1680" Score="0" Text="@John- I guess, it depends on what you really want to achieve. Anyway, goood luck!" CreationDate="2012-12-31T12:33:33.137" UserId="759" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3071" PostId="1689" Score="1" Text="I believe the correct answer will depend on the way your school/teacher runs its classes. On the spectrum from &quot;no talking; only the teacher gives instruction&quot; to &quot;chatty classes where every more-senior is supposed to help every more-junior&quot;... where do the classes fall for this question?" CreationDate="2012-12-31T13:17:17.140" UserId="579" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3072" PostId="1691" Score="1" Text="...perhaps &quot;yield&quot; should be expanded to make it clear that the mechanics and distance of punch are different on a target that yields. Punch a bag/body and the energy goes into the target, punch a wall and the energy stays in your fist. (?)" CreationDate="2012-12-31T13:19:06.377" UserId="579" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3073" PostId="1691" Score="1" Text="That's exactly what I meant. Did not realize it would not be clear; edited in. Thanks :)" CreationDate="2012-12-31T22:29:42.557" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3074" PostId="1689" Score="0" Text="@craig - edited in." CreationDate="2012-12-31T22:30:42.323" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3075" PostId="1697" Score="6" Text="In most martial arts classes, training drills are done pretty frequently. Advising your sensei/instructor of the issue will also make sure that next time the drill is done, he'll take some time to watch you and your partner. And who knows, maybe _you_ were the one that did the drill wrong :p" CreationDate="2013-01-01T17:08:42.510" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3076" PostId="1693" Score="1" Text="Just tie some heavy rope around a tree or board and voilà! Home-made traditional (and most definitely knuckle destroying) makiwara. But once you've bled for a few months, you get the iron fists!" CreationDate="2013-01-01T17:16:05.493" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3077" PostId="1685" Score="0" Text="I like this answer, but I'd like to shorten it up into: &quot;Get a solid base from one MA. After that you are likely better informed of both - what you want and what a martial art can give you so you can make an informed decision if and what you should learn next.&quot;" CreationDate="2013-01-01T18:24:03.917" UserId="424" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3078" PostId="1104" Score="0" Text="*&quot;developed for Japanese naval soldiers, thousands/hundreds of years ago&quot;* Know much about the political and technological history of Japan? In particular do you know when they got floating vessels large enough to hold much of a fight on? Might shed a little light on the time period claimed here..." CreationDate="2013-01-03T06:43:35.753" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3079" PostId="1699" Score="0" Text="But the question then becomes, are you a good partner if you just do it their way?" CreationDate="2013-01-05T00:46:04.863" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3080" PostId="1698" Score="1" Text="+1 for the rule. More detail would be helpful, though." CreationDate="2013-01-05T01:10:55.497" UserId="733" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3081" PostId="952" Score="0" Text="There's also Guan Ping-style, which emphasizes striking. I'm not too sure on the specifics, as my sifu only teaches it incidentally to xingyi and bagua, which is why this isn't an answer." CreationDate="2013-01-05T01:20:18.473" UserId="733" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3082" PostId="952" Score="0" Text="@chaosys - I'm very curious about that! Would you mind asking your shifu for more information on that style, like its origins, etc?" CreationDate="2013-01-05T02:58:44.050" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3083" PostId="1702" Score="1" Text="Hand wrappings are commonly used to practice hitting a bag. The goal is to strenghten the wrist and protect the knuckles. However, they could reduce the mobility of the wrists and fingers, which might in turn impair a wearer that intended to perform grappling manoeuvers, as is often the case in MMA. But yes, they would allow for stronger hits because of the wrist protection they offer." CreationDate="2013-01-05T04:29:59.443" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3084" PostId="1698" Score="0" Text="@chaosys - it's hard to describe by words, one has to show it..." CreationDate="2013-01-05T11:25:48.537" UserId="759" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3085" PostId="1699" Score="0" Text="in the situation where I described 'doing it there way,' yes, certainly. In that situation, you clearly are not their teacher and should resist the urge to give instruction. To correct/teach them, I should be an instructor/teacher; If that were the case, this question is moot." CreationDate="2013-01-06T00:58:15.250" UserId="579" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3086" PostId="1699" Score="0" Text="I just meant - would doing it YOUR way also be a good thing for them to practice, even if it is the wrong way?" CreationDate="2013-01-06T01:45:42.020" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3087" PostId="294" Score="1" Text="Relevant reddit thread, espousing towel-grip pull-ups: http://www.reddit.com/r/bjj/comments/161gh2/best_purchase_for_improving_grip_strength/" CreationDate="2013-01-06T06:05:16.950" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3088" PostId="1445" Score="0" Text="I'm with @DaveLiepmann. If this question were about martial benefits of jumping, I would think it belongs in here. As such, I think it's more of a fitness/athletics question at the moment." CreationDate="2013-01-07T04:46:06.797" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3089" PostId="1705" Score="4" Text="I would suggest that this is because of a crucial difference between boxers/MMA fighters and traditional martial artists - while boxers &amp; MMA fighters spend a lot of time hitting a bag they don't spend a lot of time conditioning the knuckles like traditionalists do (maybe some of the old school MMA fighters do, but only because they come from a traditional background)." CreationDate="2013-01-07T11:37:26.460" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3090" PostId="1699" Score="0" Text="if my way is wrong, no of course it's not good for them. The original question presents a logic problem that I feel is not solvable in the context OP spelled out." CreationDate="2013-01-07T14:03:30.153" UserId="579" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3091" PostId="1699" Score="0" Text="I am OP. What is wrong? I believe that the unspoken argument is that adapting to a drill performed incorrectly still yields some benefits, as long as one understands that one is adapting and what one is responding to." CreationDate="2013-01-07T22:25:44.153" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3092" PostId="1709" Score="0" Text="The answer is, it depends. How are you taught to receive the strikes? (e.g. do you tighten your abs, do you step into them...)" CreationDate="2013-01-09T13:22:06.090" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3093" PostId="1709" Score="0" Text="yes i do tighted them up. Does it makes a difference?" CreationDate="2013-01-09T19:42:59.360" UserId="873" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3094" PostId="1710" Score="0" Text="I agree. You need to experience pain to learn to conquer it, but there is a limit to how much stomach-beating you need." CreationDate="2013-01-09T23:46:14.450" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3095" PostId="1699" Score="1" Text="The logic problem I'm referring to is finding &quot;the best way&quot; [your question, last sentence in OP] in the context of the question; Where you don't have the teacher/instructor coming over to sort it out. So my answer, on which we're commenting, is just a road map to make an action choice in the situation." CreationDate="2013-01-10T02:38:36.910" UserId="579" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3096" PostId="1710" Score="0" Text="When should someone decide the limit?" CreationDate="2013-01-10T05:53:34.060" UserId="873" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3097" PostId="1674" Score="0" Text="Exactly @John. But from time to time try also to spar someone more experienced. This will improve your skills, and you'll be able to push your limits much faster." CreationDate="2013-01-10T07:27:11.530" UserId="500" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3098" PostId="1710" Score="1" Text="@John Think of it as a drill. When you spar, have you been caught in the stomach area unawares? If not, maybe you only need to do it occassionally now. This sort of drill doesn't build the muscle or increase your physical capacity in any way, it simply trains you to react and fortifies you mentally to tolerate pain and discomfort. Do you think you are ready to move on from it?" CreationDate="2013-01-10T12:27:51.273" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3100" PostId="1711" Score="0" Text="Something I've heard and you may want to look in to is that weaknesses in some of the knee ligaments can be overcome by strengthening the quads (this morsel of goodness comes from rugby players, they are prone to knee ligamnt problems)." CreationDate="2013-01-12T01:39:13.063" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3101" PostId="1718" Score="1" Text="Notice that the question says nothing about &quot;high kicks&quot;. My Yoseikan club practiced with kicks up to roughly the waist as technique, but only went higher than that to allow practice of responses." CreationDate="2013-01-12T20:48:20.340" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3103" PostId="1723" Score="3" Text="Good question :) The neck is an interesting one - it is suprisingly hard to break unless you use the exact right angles - then it becomes quite easy. The actual amount of force to break an arbitrary rib would also be influenced by the density of the muscle/fat covering the area." CreationDate="2013-01-15T05:30:43.697" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3104" PostId="1722" Score="5" Text="-1: *[..] Aikido are modern &quot;made up&quot; martial arts and have no basis in &quot;tradition&quot;*.  This is utter rubbish.  Aikido evolved from Daito ryu Aiki jujutsu practiced by the Takeda family of Kai Province (modern day Yamanashi Prefecture).  It has many other influences due to Ueshiba learning various other martial arts during his life." CreationDate="2013-01-15T08:35:39.780" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3105" PostId="1723" Score="1" Text="Journal of Trauma may have some accurate numbers there.  But not having access, I cannot check it out -- anyone in academia?" CreationDate="2013-01-15T08:37:51.030" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3106" PostId="1724" Score="0" Text="'recover faster' compared to what?" CreationDate="2013-01-15T13:26:58.597" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3107" PostId="1724" Score="0" Text="@THelper Fair point. I mean faster than the doctor endorsed timetable of 4 weeks before any training and 6 weeks before contact training." CreationDate="2013-01-15T14:23:01.800" UserId="813" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3108" PostId="1724" Score="0" Text="How bad a break are we talking about? In my experience, most toe breaks get reduced to &quot;do what you can, it'll heal on its own.&quot;" CreationDate="2013-01-15T15:00:23.537" UserId="338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3109" PostId="1724" Score="0" Text="I can walk on the side of the foot, albeit slowly. It does not hurt when static, but is subject to vibration induced pain." CreationDate="2013-01-15T15:44:54.317" UserId="813" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3110" PostId="1724" Score="1" Text="Wow...are you sure that's just the toe?  Strongly suggest a doctor's opinion." CreationDate="2013-01-16T02:50:42.477" UserId="338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3111" PostId="1724" Score="1" Text="What kind of training were you doing before you were injured? What is the competition and why do you _need_ to attend and perform? I certainly would not recommend someone to do that especially in that short of a timeframe, nor would I do something like that myself and potentially cause further strain or injury." CreationDate="2013-01-16T03:36:15.577" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3112" PostId="1732" Score="1" Text="Nice :) From your article: *`Matching the two sides of a board from a pile of halves can be a challenge`* - the solution is to break more boards, thus producing more options :) Moar!!" CreationDate="2013-01-17T01:44:05.560" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3113" PostId="1732" Score="0" Text="@slugster: THAT is funny (and so very true)!" CreationDate="2013-01-17T23:08:15.387" UserId="398" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3114" PostId="1732" Score="0" Text="Can you quote and repost some of the information here to prevent link rot? I'm sure there are some people who would appreciate the knowledge but not necessarily want to click through a bunch of links whereas this question here would serve the purpose of presenting such information." CreationDate="2013-01-18T17:05:36.330" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3115" PostId="1734" Score="2" Text="I believe that these are different concepts than the ones in the question, which are about levels of mastery of a skill." CreationDate="2013-01-19T23:56:22.703" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3116" PostId="1734" Score="0" Text="Perhaps, though maybe I should have mentioned that we do use them in the context of levels. I'll edit" CreationDate="2013-01-20T16:43:36.170" UserId="726" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3117" PostId="1734" Score="0" Text="This was a great edit, and very valuable information, although I believe it is still different. Let me explain: &#xA;&#xA;SHU is like &quot;in this stance, he grabs this wrist with this hand, then you do that&quot;.&#xA;&#xA;HA is like &quot;try this technique in various wrist grab positions, stances, etc&quot;.&#xA;&#xA;RI is like &quot;Well, based on the way he grabbed my wrist, what I did was the proper response&quot;." CreationDate="2013-01-20T22:04:03.977" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3118" PostId="1734" Score="0" Text="yeah in that instance I am not really sure what that would be. I'll ask my master. Or if need be Grand Master though he is a littler more difficult to get a hold of these days (traveling a lot)" CreationDate="2013-01-21T02:47:45.690" UserId="726" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3119" PostId="1739" Score="2" Text="I would recommend that you split your question in two parts. One,  ask if there are systems that start with weapons. Then, create another question asking for styles similar to Seido karate." CreationDate="2013-01-22T00:08:44.170" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3120" PostId="1739" Score="1" Text="There are two questions here, both good, one of which is in the title and the other of which is in the body.  Which do you want an answer to, or are you hoping one will lead to the other?" CreationDate="2013-01-22T05:58:02.873" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3121" PostId="1739" Score="0" Text="I will split the question" CreationDate="2013-01-22T18:12:56.843" UserId="841" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3122" PostId="1742" Score="0" Text="I wonder if other language-related Stack Exchange sites (maybe Linguistics or English) would be a better place to answer this." CreationDate="2013-01-22T22:06:07.453" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3123" PostId="1743" Score="2" Text="I was totally unaware of this (not a BJJ practitioner) - this is simply brilliant." CreationDate="2013-01-22T23:30:26.143" UserId="338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3124" PostId="1743" Score="0" Text="I don't know if this answers the question, but it's certainly valuable information." CreationDate="2013-01-22T23:34:59.557" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3125" PostId="1743" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke Since I don't think there are ontologies in the sense that the OP is looking for, I decided that the closest relative would be a fine answer. But no, it definitely doesn't answer the question as stated." CreationDate="2013-01-22T23:48:18.797" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3126" PostId="1742" Score="0" Text="Why is taekwondo tagged in this question?" CreationDate="2013-01-23T03:51:53.650" UserId="338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3127" PostId="1741" Score="4" Text="*Iaido*, *kenjutsu*, *kendo* for sure.  Shodokan Aikido has basic hand movements derived from sword work that are thought within the first 30 minutes of each class. Other styles of Aikido (Iwama?) have weapon training from earlier on." CreationDate="2013-01-23T08:02:25.170" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3128" PostId="1742" Score="0" Text="Because I know a little TKD, so most of the techniques I listed will be familiar to TKD practicioners (though I suspect most Martial Arts have their own versions of the named techniques)." CreationDate="2013-01-23T18:51:54.983" UserId="787" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3129" PostId="1428" Score="2" Text="True, but I guess we are talking about different experience here. I do see a lot of straight linear movements and some very sharp angle movements in the style of pike form. These are extremely fast and dangerous even with relatively little training one can handle a pike or similar pole weapon fast and with lots of power. Also the range of a pike can be surprisingly variable as it is possible to quickly retract it or extend as needed." CreationDate="2013-01-23T19:06:02.610" UserId="424" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3130" PostId="1743" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann do you think we could start one here as a community wiki?" CreationDate="2013-01-23T19:06:12.450" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3133" PostId="1744" Score="3" Text="In *Shodokan aikido*, sword work is there to improve your *Aikido* and not to teach you how to use a sword. I suspect that many other styles of *Aikido* are similar." CreationDate="2013-01-24T07:43:57.093" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3136" PostId="1744" Score="1" Text="I practice/teach at an *Aikikai* dojo, and we have a weekly weapons class anyone is welcome to attend.  But it's very stylized and, as @Sardathrion said, mostly serves to improve one's *Aikido*." CreationDate="2013-01-24T14:42:30.030" UserId="33" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3138" PostId="1734" Score="0" Text="edited to add some commentary from two master instructors as a source, if not the answer you're looking for maybe it will help guide you." CreationDate="2013-01-26T04:48:51.303" UserId="726" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3139" PostId="1751" Score="2" Text="I would like to add that I am not practicing any arts at the moment, please forgive my ignorance." CreationDate="2013-01-28T07:09:48.007" UserId="367" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3141" PostId="1751" Score="1" Text="This [answer](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/817/347) is relevant, as are several of the others. The short answer is that martial arts, trained correctly, increase someone's hand-to-hand combat ability. That's not useful in all scenarios. Whether that makes it &quot;inadequate&quot; is a fuzzy question." CreationDate="2013-01-28T16:09:44.983" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3149" PostId="1757" Score="2" Text="I think a really critical question here is &quot;How long do you have?&quot;. A teacher of mine used to do one-night (three-hour) seminars at the start of term for the co-eds, and that is a very different situation than two hours, twice a week for two months with I have also seen." CreationDate="2013-01-29T00:50:06.513" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3150" PostId="1757" Score="1" Text="@dmckee I agree, but I think there's room enough for both syllabuses in this question. The difference between three hours and 32 hours exist, but there's a bigger difference between both of those and regular training. The key is &quot;what do you teach to people who don't train&quot;." CreationDate="2013-01-29T00:56:33.050" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3151" PostId="1756" Score="3" Text="Thank you Dave, this is exactly the kind of answer I needed." CreationDate="2013-01-29T07:42:30.573" UserId="925" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3153" PostId="1755" Score="0" Text="Thank you for these tips, Kamil. I'll take a look at endomondo. It is true, the social aspect is important, but I cannot do it here, I live in a very small town and preparing to move to a larger one soon where I will be able to pick a dojo, but until then I just have to do what I can alone." CreationDate="2013-01-29T07:48:23.073" UserId="925" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3154" PostId="1759" Score="1" Text="There are some points to take away here, and a big one is to look into _why_ and _how_ rape happens. It's not something martial arts can necessarily prevent in situations where rape may occur. I'd be careful about how to set up something to &quot;prevent rape&quot; because that starts trudging upon victim blame." CreationDate="2013-01-29T11:45:44.677" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3162" PostId="1759" Score="0" Text="MacYoung's page is chock-full of victim-blaming, and demanding that sexual assault survivors go to police is patronizing. Someone who has had their autonomy violently taken from them doesn't need someone else--*someone who they don't even know and haven't given any authority over their lives more than asking for training*--telling them what to do. Going to the police is the victim's call. If you have an opinion about it, keep it to yourself until they ask you. But &quot;there are no easy answers&quot; is spot-on." CreationDate="2013-01-29T14:07:12.017" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3163" PostId="1758" Score="3" Text="It's nice that a given technique worked, but that's a one-in-a-million shot. So-called &quot;one-strike disabling&quot; techniques should not be relied on. False empowerment is *dangerous*." CreationDate="2013-01-29T14:08:46.163" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3164" PostId="1759" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann: I believe that it is our duty to help the victim in whatever way possible.  This includes but is not limited to supporting the victim in reporting the crime to the relevant law enforcement agency." CreationDate="2013-01-29T14:39:10.837" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3165" PostId="1759" Score="0" Text="That would be nice, but &quot;if they want to join the club...make sure they reported it&quot; sounds a lot like &quot;if they don't report, they can't join the dojo&quot; or &quot;they should report it whether they want to or not&quot;. It doesn't sound like &quot;support their choice&quot;." CreationDate="2013-01-29T14:54:22.283" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3167" PostId="1758" Score="1" Text="Sorry @Dave, but it's not a one-in-a-million shot. I've been there, I've been on the receiving end as a training partner, I've taught it - it works beautifully. Of course it shouldn't be the only thing they know and rely on, like any other technique it does have its chances at failure. Your challenge is to teach them simple effective techniques that they will hardly (if ever) practice between the occassional session with you." CreationDate="2013-01-29T21:41:53.933" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3170" PostId="1759" Score="2" Text="@DaveLiepmann: Okay, I can see how one could misinterpret what I said. Post edited and thank you for pointing it out." CreationDate="2013-01-30T13:54:12.283" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3173" PostId="1767" Score="0" Text="Thank you.  A lot of what you've said alleviates my concerns.  She is pretty good at forms but is really struggling with sparring and yet just earned purple (which moves her into an intermediate level) I'm not entirely sure she is truly ready for (strength etc.) but there is a heavy language barrier I struggle with in terms of making my questions clear.  Behavior (except occasional chattiness is never a problem)." CreationDate="2013-02-02T04:54:42.057" UserId="816" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3174" PostId="1767" Score="0" Text="I will say that if they are any good and they are looking at anything specific as pass/fail criteria, it will be forms and one-steps, not sparring." CreationDate="2013-02-02T17:13:48.773" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3175" PostId="1758" Score="1" Text="Both learning not to panic (or at least to control your panic), and drilling technique until you *can* do it in a panic are core ideas for any kind of physical defense. Alas, they require time on the training floor to accomplish and many student won't put in the time." CreationDate="2013-02-02T19:43:11.943" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3176" PostId="1765" Score="1" Text="In many styles/schools/organizations, kid belts are indeed the same as adult belts. It can also present problems when, say, a 7-year-old TKD black belt mentally equates their achievement to BJ Penn's BJJ black belt." CreationDate="2013-02-04T20:30:17.087" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3177" PostId="1716" Score="0" Text="Following the MRI the doctor said that the ACL actually developed a cyst from an older partial tear so the round kick might not have been what did it in. In short, it was going to go, it as just a matter of when and any activity that placed pressure on it could have caused it to go. For example, walking up the stairs with groceries could have been just as likely. During the kumite session I actually was only starting to bring my knee up to through the kick when it went." CreationDate="2013-02-05T14:01:25.770" UserId="46" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3179" PostId="1716" Score="0" Text="@RobZ Thanks for the follow up and I hope you are making progress with healing it. Yours is an edge case (the footnote covers your case :), but I'll leave my answer as-is because it still applies to normal people and may be of help to someone else.Hope you're back to normal practice soon!" CreationDate="2013-02-05T22:12:15.530" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3180" PostId="1752" Score="3" Text="+1 &quot;There are always signs that something is about to happen.&quot; Every time I've been attacked in the street I've seen it coming based on body language and knowledge of the local culture and behaviours. Fights can be explosive and fast but they're seldom, if ever, spontaneous." CreationDate="2013-02-08T14:12:41.287" UserId="943" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3182" PostId="1774" Score="1" Text="Kind of similar to [this question](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/1742/347), but not identical." CreationDate="2013-02-08T23:55:06.790" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3184" PostId="1243" Score="2" Text="The link of the article in question: http://abloodyblog.wordpress.com/2011/12/13/kosen-judo/ Where do I &quot;call some techniques specifically Kosen&quot;? &quot;It has been well-argued elsewhere that Kosen was merely a ruleset preferred by some judoka.&quot; Thank you for reiterating that (although a third of my article accentuates this very same -fact-)." CreationDate="2013-02-09T14:36:34.377" UserDisplayName="user944" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3185" PostId="1243" Score="0" Text="Thanks for dropping by, and for the updated link. I got that impression from the &quot;Kosen Judo evolution&quot; section, but will rephrase my statement to better showcase our agreement. I think the only potential distance between our views is that much like you convincingly argue that many techniques attributed to Brazilian judoka were predated by Kosen judoka, I've heard claims that some non-Kosen judoka were making the same inroads into newaza." CreationDate="2013-02-10T01:14:15.840" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3186" PostId="1744" Score="0" Text="While its not a Japanese &quot;katana&quot; Korean Gumdo is an art where you use a similar blade from the beginning (Gumdo is the Korean art of sword play)." CreationDate="2013-02-10T19:51:39.840" UserId="726" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3187" PostId="1744" Score="0" Text="@John.Weland I already mentioned it. &quot;Gumdo&quot; is a different romanization of _kumdo_ (검도)." CreationDate="2013-02-10T22:36:51.707" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3188" PostId="1756" Score="0" Text="I would insist a bit less on muscle and more on suppleness, but I agree on the main point: alone, you can only prepare yourself for a martial art, not train yourself in one." CreationDate="2013-02-12T15:18:54.023" UserId="941" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3189" PostId="1756" Score="0" Text="@Nowhereman Supple in what way? The Olympic lifters I'm familiar with are quite bullish on extensive mobility work." CreationDate="2013-02-12T15:28:05.707" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3190" PostId="1728" Score="3" Text="With the added following twist: most competition ask that participants be cleared by their doctor. If you injure yourself in a competition when you were instructed by your doctor not to participate, the various insurances that usually cover you (yours, the club's, the competition's) may not pay the much-needed healthcare." CreationDate="2013-02-12T15:42:05.213" UserId="941" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3191" PostId="1756" Score="0" Text="Well, I'm not sure lifters make the best material for martial artists. When you practice any martial art I've known, being able to bend in most directions without hurting yourself is more valuable than being able to bench-press any weight. YMMV" CreationDate="2013-02-13T21:32:03.937" UserId="941" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3192" PostId="1756" Score="0" Text="@Nowhereman Maybe you could you add your own answer to describe what you mean? I'm not sure how improving one's clean and jerk decreases or interferes with mobility work." CreationDate="2013-02-13T22:04:45.833" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3194" PostId="1752" Score="1" Text="@Rushyo: _&quot;Every time I've been attacked in the street&quot;_ ... does that happen to you a lot? Never happened to me yet." CreationDate="2013-02-14T15:44:27.977" UserId="957" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3195" PostId="1752" Score="6" Text="@TorbenGundtofte-Bruun I live in a notoriously rough area near the center of an affluent city. I have a very slim build and walk home alone every night in the dark. Clear target for a mugger or just drunk yobs. I am, however, a security consultant/hacker. So far, I've always managed to defuse the scenarios, without violence, using social engineering and threat management. Plant &amp; reinforce the idea that fighting you is a bad idea and opportunists will retreat." CreationDate="2013-02-15T00:09:33.873" UserId="943" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3196" PostId="1752" Score="0" Text="@Rushyo: Good job keeping the bad guys at bay! You seem well suited to handle it." CreationDate="2013-02-15T07:08:58.283" UserId="957" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3197" PostId="1752" Score="0" Text="@Rushyo: I like your method of self defence." CreationDate="2013-02-15T07:33:41.620" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3198" PostId="1783" Score="1" Text="Welcome to martial arts! Since th OP asked for a 'well researched way', do you have any (scientific) references to backup your answer?" CreationDate="2013-02-15T08:04:59.600" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3199" PostId="1784" Score="0" Text="Thank you this interesting explanation. What I'm really interested in is excersises that people have done **themselves** that made a big difference to their martial art practice." CreationDate="2013-02-15T14:43:11.067" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3200" PostId="1786" Score="0" Text="+1 Welcome to the site!  This is a nice question, so have some reputation to get you going." CreationDate="2013-02-18T08:13:37.317" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3201" PostId="226" Score="1" Text="i've noticed a backlash against running lately. I think while running might not be the ideal method to increase fitness for sparring it is still excellent for overall fitness and helps to prevent running out of fuel during a long training session." CreationDate="2013-02-18T12:16:01.207" UserId="718" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3202" PostId="1786" Score="2" Text="Your question is implying that by preferring to block, you are in some way doing something wrong. That is not the case. There is nothing wrong with being a defensive fighter as long as you block **AND** counter." CreationDate="2013-02-19T00:15:01.410" UserId="963" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3203" PostId="1749" Score="1" Text="Could you explain, in more detail, your &quot;fundamental difficulties&quot;? For example, is the problem within the rotation of the fist (turning over too late or too early)?" CreationDate="2013-02-19T02:52:08.857" UserId="963" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3204" PostId="1792" Score="2" Text="I think I'm worried about hurting the opponent. I will come over it, I realize it doesn't help either of us!" CreationDate="2013-02-19T08:00:17.410" UserId="872" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3205" PostId="1786" Score="0" Text="@vijay : from your other comment that you are &quot;worried about hurting the other opponent&quot;. There is nothing wrong with you, some people will never be comfortable with hitting others no matter what, so maybe change of styles or just accept that who you are and practice the art not worry about competition." CreationDate="2013-02-19T10:09:25.620" UserId="194" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3206" PostId="1794" Score="0" Text="Maybe this is meant to be answered by someone who has gone beyond 101 in physics." CreationDate="2013-02-19T22:34:10.507" UserId="968" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3207" PostId="1794" Score="1" Text="Feel free to check my profile. I have a bit more physics than that. Heck, Ive taught physics 101 as instructor of record at a major university." CreationDate="2013-02-19T22:35:51.923" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3208" PostId="1794" Score="0" Text="Is this how you treat your students? Ridicule them for asking questions?" CreationDate="2013-02-19T22:38:36.073" UserId="968" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3209" PostId="1794" Score="3" Text="The question is fine, even natural, but the underlying assumption that it has a physics 101 answer is simply wrong. Biomechanics is *hard*. The biology and physics of injury is *very* hard. One punch|kick|throw|block|sweep|lock is not equivalent to another for these purposes." CreationDate="2013-02-19T22:45:38.703" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3210" PostId="1794" Score="0" Text="So in your opinion if the person is stupid, you would discourage them from thinking independently (or trying)." CreationDate="2013-02-19T22:50:18.293" UserId="968" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3211" PostId="1793" Score="0" Text="Still *&quot;Neither&quot;*. Here you are looking for &quot;peak pressure&quot; and most systems teach generating it through a kinematic chain where you are attached to the ground." CreationDate="2013-02-19T22:51:53.127" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3212" PostId="1793" Score="0" Text="As a scientist, how would you quantify a person's punching power?" CreationDate="2013-02-19T22:54:53.173" UserId="968" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3213" PostId="1793" Score="2" Text="Me? I'd put a stress transducer under the skin of a ~40 Kg heavy bag and say &quot;Punch this&quot;. Better still use an ballistics gelatin model with an articulated softwood skeleton or a crash dummy. If you want to improve it do both speed drills and heavy bag work and get an expert partner to criticize your form over and over again." CreationDate="2013-02-19T22:57:19.333" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3214" PostId="1793" Score="1" Text="In the absence of fancy kit you can armor up (say TKD pads, use two if you're worried) and say &quot;Punch me here&quot; for a rough idea. It can be instructive about how important it is not to let the other guy have time to set up a big lunge punch unless you like trying to breath with the wind knocked out of you." CreationDate="2013-02-19T23:06:56.250" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3215" PostId="1793" Score="2" Text="Google up &quot;inch punch break&quot; to see some breaks done with very little range. That works because you're *not* throwing your fist at the target: you are pushing it forward with a whole chain of connections through you body and into the ground. It's *form and technique* that make you hit hard, and that's why you're not going to get a satisfactory answer in terms of momentum or kinetic energy. The measurements you propose *won't answer the question*." CreationDate="2013-02-19T23:54:17.987" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3216" PostId="1794" Score="0" Text="@dmckee is right. It is impossible to break things down to a single concept. A number of things come into play together. &quot;Physics 101&quot; is what got us here in the first place -- a limited model for the world. Time for a new model." CreationDate="2013-02-20T00:05:06.473" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3217" PostId="1794" Score="2" Text="I agree with everything in this answer except the condescending attitude. :) It's hard to be nice, but worth the effort." CreationDate="2013-02-20T01:40:40.883" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3218" PostId="1794" Score="1" Text="Guys, chill out..." CreationDate="2013-02-20T03:56:01.057" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3219" PostId="1793" Score="2" Text="From a martial arts perspective this is an ok question, but from a physics perspective it is so fundamentally flawed that words fail me... unfortunately my physics side managed to dominate my MA side on this one." CreationDate="2013-02-20T09:50:22.107" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3220" PostId="1778" Score="0" Text="Just a suggestion but I found some good stuff on the site below.  Maybe try your question there?  If you're successful would you mind updating your post? http://www.thearma.org/ You might also try http://www.theclann.co.uk/" CreationDate="2013-02-20T19:47:08.063" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3221" PostId="1778" Score="0" Text="And a friend pointed me to http://www.myarmoury.com/search/" CreationDate="2013-02-20T19:56:46.477" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3222" PostId="1778" Score="0" Text="OK so I'm getting interested now  http://www.paganachd.com/articles/celticmartialarts.html" CreationDate="2013-02-20T20:02:39.733" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3223" PostId="105" Score="1" Text="I didn't downvote but agree with Ho-Sheng.  CF Judo versus Xing Yi or I-Chuan" CreationDate="2013-02-21T15:41:49.617" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3224" PostId="1786" Score="0" Text="I found that true when I first started a martial art. But after some time, I think I gained more confidence in my own abilities (not seriously injuring myself, not seriously injuring someone else, etc.). It also became easier to see opportunities for striking. I also agree with Arjang: some people will never be comfortable with hitting others. Everyone responds to sparring differently.  If you want to get better at it, just do it more!" CreationDate="2013-02-21T20:45:07.583" UserId="271" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3225" PostId="1742" Score="0" Text="I was looking for something similar a while back, but haven't found any. Good question!" CreationDate="2013-02-21T20:52:51.773" UserId="271" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3226" PostId="1778" Score="0" Text="This guy here (http://www.subject-control-and-combative-systems.com/celtic-combative-systems.html) seems to be practicing and teaching some celtic martial arts that were passed down throughout his family's history. Might be interesting to contact him." CreationDate="2013-02-22T23:29:38.280" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3228" PostId="1801" Score="1" Text="Thanks for your answer! I think it's important to remember, however, that the vast majority of rapes do not stem from women out jogging or returning home late at night and being ambushed. [Most rapes are committed by someone the victim knows](http://www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/sexual-assault-offenders). (Thanks go to @DavidHClements for the link.)" CreationDate="2013-02-26T16:23:46.547" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3229" PostId="1801" Score="0" Text="very good point @DaveLiepmann." CreationDate="2013-02-26T16:26:52.113" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3230" PostId="1799" Score="0" Text="I did mention that this wasn't really answering the question: however my point was that it is not by the board itself you measure someone's ability but by other factors which I mentioned. But I admit and accept happily the DownVote :-)" CreationDate="2013-02-26T16:43:59.837" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3231" PostId="1799" Score="0" Text="I'd argue that doing the technique in slowmotion will give you an insight as to an individual's skill, but it's not enough to assess board breaking ability. Technique will tell how well the martial artist applies power, not how much power he can apply. You need a benchmark to measure board breaking ability, and that benchmark pretty much _has_ to be a board itself. Preferably, many boards of the same material with similar grain and all progressively thicker that can be calibrated against mechanical tools. Have martial artists attempt to break them, find the hardest one he could break. Voilà!" CreationDate="2013-02-26T23:05:35.070" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3232" PostId="1801" Score="0" Text="Situational awareness is critical, but you can't train that in a short time anymore than you can develop sophisticated technique-based fighting skills without on-going practice." CreationDate="2013-02-27T01:25:25.470" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3233" PostId="105" Score="2" Text="Those who like to pigeon hole things make two separate distinction internal/external *and* hard/soft. This goes to the hard/soft distinction rather than the internal/external. While it is true that more systems are hard-external (TKD, many karate systems) or soft-internal (what akido I've learned leaned this way, but I hate to make a strong claim for the whole discipline) than hard-internal (ba-gua maybe? I haven't done one of these) or soft-external (judo at least the way I started learning it), they are still two different ways to categorize a system." CreationDate="2013-02-27T20:18:26.223" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3236" PostId="1801" Score="0" Text="@dmckee I could not agree more. In fact I would risk saying it might take even longer to enter this frame of mind which is another reason why this should receive more attention than throwing 200 combos against your shadow on a day. So why do you think traditional Dojos still overlook this? If I had 5 days to run a rape defence course, I would spend the first 4 on predator/prey psychology and situation awareness and one day in physical aspects, making sure I'd make the students aware that these &quot;physical&quot; techniques would be useless if not practised regularly." CreationDate="2013-02-28T07:33:15.967" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3237" PostId="1799" Score="0" Text="@Dungarth &quot;but it's not enought to assess board breaking ability&quot;. I have to admit you are right. I did not see the full picture and perhaps drew a too hasty opinion about it: you have added some new to my day. Thanks for that." CreationDate="2013-02-28T07:43:26.237" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3238" PostId="1804" Score="5" Text="Just a small comment. Make sure you do not over do it at first.  It takes time to get the stamina to do five sessions a week." CreationDate="2013-02-28T11:17:59.410" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3239" PostId="1805" Score="1" Text="Extremely relevant similar questions: http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/293/how-are-joints-affected-in-the-long-term-by-martial-arts-practice?rq=1 and http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/998/how-bad-is-kickboxing-for-your-brain?rq=1" CreationDate="2013-02-28T14:08:33.403" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3240" PostId="1807" Score="3" Text="I agree with most everything except the idea that someone can choose to sit out of fundamental activities like sparring. It's reasonable for some gyms to say, &quot;train like we train or you can't train with us,&quot; and it's reasonable for that to involve sparring." CreationDate="2013-02-28T14:24:12.907" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3241" PostId="1799" Score="0" Text="My pleasure! And don't worry too much about the downvotes. I haven't been here so long myself, but I have found that the community is actually pretty fun to hang out with! Just remember to stick to the original question :p" CreationDate="2013-02-28T14:32:51.193" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3242" PostId="1807" Score="0" Text="True, but when you put this proposition forth you are assuming that the person training has the same goals as you do. I understand that you are very focused and take it seriously: Martial Arts is really important in your life and as such I agree, sparring is fundamental. However someone else's priority might be safety above all, for whatever reason. They might enjoy practicing the techniques without necessarily wanting to become fighter, and as such, for this person who praises safety first, sparring does not become fundamental. Importance becomes subjective." CreationDate="2013-02-28T14:41:16.303" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3243" PostId="1807" Score="1" Text="I'm just quibbling over the word &quot;worthy&quot;. Plenty of quality schools don't have room for someone who wants to pick and choose which parts of practice they'll do. Still a good answer, still upvoted, but if someone's not a good fit for a martial arts school because they *don't want to train martial arts*, then I think calling the school unworthy is a little odd." CreationDate="2013-02-28T14:54:18.843" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3244" PostId="1807" Score="0" Text="Hmm, yes, putting it in this way, I agree with you: you right, the person needs to want to train; thanks for the upvote. Perhaps I should edit my answer to reflect what we have established???" CreationDate="2013-02-28T15:20:14.180" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3245" PostId="1807" Score="1" Text="Editing the post would be fine. The idea of Stack Exchange is to make quality answers that help all readers, not just the original poster, so edits are encouraged." CreationDate="2013-02-28T15:47:31.623" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3246" PostId="1804" Score="1" Text="Those who can't get in the forth and fifth formal sessions a week can get some of the benefit by doing some solo work. Forms, bag work, footwork drill, and so on. There are [whole books](http://www.turtlepress.com/Solo_Training_The_Martial_Artists_Guide_to_Training_Alone_p/121.html) on [the subject](http://www.turtlepress.com/Solo_Training_2_p/122.html) (links to a couple that I have and think are pretty good). You don't in the more learning, but you do forget less between sessions." CreationDate="2013-02-28T19:05:20.593" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3247" PostId="1804" Score="0" Text="@dmckee Your comment would make a fine answer." CreationDate="2013-02-28T19:23:51.893" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3248" PostId="1810" Score="1" Text="Welcome to the site. Have some reputation to get you going." CreationDate="2013-03-01T08:55:41.850" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3250" PostId="1739" Score="0" Text="Is there a reason you don't ask your sensei?" CreationDate="2013-03-01T11:53:39.650" UserId="943" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3251" PostId="1812" Score="0" Text="-1 Please don't try to diagnose someone's medical issues over the internet with less than two sentences to go on." CreationDate="2013-03-01T17:30:34.963" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3257" PostId="1812" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann They weren't diagnoses they were suggestions, and I thought I made it clear he should **consult a specialist** (curiously a few answers fail to mention that). In my answer I drew upon my knowledge and experience and mentioned some areas for further research, much like you did in yours. I simply outlined some of the common ways his job could cause those injuries (based on personal experience), this is the same experience that enables me to answer with some authority on another [medical related question](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/765/70)." CreationDate="2013-03-01T23:30:30.927" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3258" PostId="1812" Score="1" Text="OP wrote &quot;I am a research scholar and I have to dedicate a lot of time everyday in front of the computer. This leads to pain in my knees and shoulder. I consulted with doctors and they suggested me some elementary physical exercises.&quot;. From that you wrote &quot;The pain in your shoulder is most likely caused by referred nerve pain or a localised tendonitis/bursitis (most likely your bicep tendon or a rotator cuff inflamation).&quot; To me, that's an Internet Diagnosis that we should avoid." CreationDate="2013-03-01T23:36:58.013" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3259" PostId="1819" Score="0" Text="Concussions are a factor in judo, wrestling, boxing, and kickboxing, and there's a significant contingent in each of those sports that consider the activity to be spiritual training. That's part and parcel of hard-sparring arts." CreationDate="2013-03-01T23:39:00.793" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3260" PostId="1812" Score="0" Text="In contrast, while I'm not terribly excited about the hernia question, at least that was a clear diagnosis, and you were sharing your personal experience with what the OP was asking about. In this question you're trying to diagnosis the OP's knee issues and you're already tossing out guesses as to the cause of the OP's shoulder trouble. You're saying it's probably bursitis when the sum total of your knowledge is 1. it's the shoulder and 2. some doctor said it was probably related to computer time." CreationDate="2013-03-01T23:43:07.057" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3261" PostId="1819" Score="0" Text="You may be right. I'm offering a newbie perspective, skewed by my own experience. At our dojo, the Grandmaster stresses &quot;control&quot; in sparring. I would assume that another interested party could find a similar Dojo, which was the point I was trying to make. If I thought I had a serious chance of getting a concussion, I wouldn't dream of going. We spar very hard at times, but always with control. I think a newcomer could find a Dojo with that kind of approach. In our Dojo control goes hand-in-glove with spiritual training." CreationDate="2013-03-02T00:33:09.523" UserId="988" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3271" PostId="1483" Score="0" Text="very interesting. Do you know of any study on the long term side effects of cutting so much weight in such a short period of time?" CreationDate="2013-03-02T22:03:22.940" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3272" PostId="315" Score="1" Text="The trouble is the wikipedia article also draws on Sun Lu Tang as a source.  Read Douglas Wile's books" CreationDate="2013-03-04T19:17:20.813" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3273" PostId="204" Score="1" Text="Also taijiquan can be fast.  I know both the Wu Jin Chuan and Chen family have fast sets." CreationDate="2013-03-04T19:21:17.783" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3274" PostId="976" Score="0" Text="The only school that I know of that has this porous teaching is Liu Hsi Heng.  Most tai chi schools are stand alone." CreationDate="2013-03-04T19:24:11.167" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3275" PostId="976" Score="0" Text="@Wudang My impression, and I could be wrong, was that porous/multi-style CMA was more common historically compared to modern tai chi." CreationDate="2013-03-04T19:45:06.547" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3281" PostId="976" Score="0" Text="Ish.  Depends on the history you read and whether you go for the Chen family origin or the Chan San Feng route.  But it seems to keep getting clearer that the Chen family developed tai chi as their family style.  The whole idea of learning one style then another if, when you think about historical context, very unlikely.  And if the history doesn't take account of Doug Wile's prodigious research be very suspicious." CreationDate="2013-03-04T22:30:50.283" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3282" PostId="1826" Score="0" Text="Hrmmm...did not set out to write a mini-dissertation..." CreationDate="2013-03-05T04:16:56.467" UserId="338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3283" PostId="1826" Score="0" Text="I am truly impressed with knowledge and the way it was presented. +1." CreationDate="2013-03-05T07:38:30.367" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3285" PostId="1824" Score="1" Text="Mandatory philosophical answer: you would *know* if you were ready for breaking a broom handle, you wouldn't need to ask :)" CreationDate="2013-03-05T09:24:15.563" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3286" PostId="1824" Score="0" Text="There's a lot of truth to @slugster's comment..." CreationDate="2013-03-05T15:36:00.047" UserId="338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3287" PostId="1610" Score="2" Text="Not trying to imply you don't know about your own body, but a lot of diagnosed &quot;short legs&quot; turn out to be problems with hip-alignment (if that is a word) did you ever ask a chiropractor or an osteopathic practitioner about it?" CreationDate="2013-03-05T15:41:33.387" UserId="718" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3288" PostId="1808" Score="2" Text="Couldn't agree more. +10" CreationDate="2013-03-05T19:23:55.880" UserId="424" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3289" PostId="1828" Score="0" Text="Could you excerpt (or would you mind if I excerpted) some of the relevant sections? We want to avoid losing info due to link rot." CreationDate="2013-03-05T19:47:37.860" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3290" PostId="1827" Score="0" Text="The term is &quot;recovery&quot; and it's an extremely broad topic in sports exercise. Could you be more specific with the type of fatigue or mode of training?" CreationDate="2013-03-05T19:51:06.123" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3291" PostId="1828" Score="1" Text="Why don't we both do so then take turns editing? My time's a little precarious as I'm on-call this week.  As long as we credit David and point to the origin to help increase awareness of his books." CreationDate="2013-03-05T19:52:56.443" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3292" PostId="1827" Score="0" Text="Added some detail." CreationDate="2013-03-05T19:57:58.653" UserId="718" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3293" PostId="1827" Score="0" Text="This is a very good point. I wonder myself. Have you tried to take a day off after a very hard training and sleep well the night before just to see if lack of sleep alone is the factor causing the next day tiredness?" CreationDate="2013-03-05T20:28:35.063" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3294" PostId="1827" Score="0" Text="I gave my copy of Fit to Fight to a nephew.  Really good if slightly scarey guide to being fit to fight    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fit-Fight-Manual-Intense-Training/dp/0953763803" CreationDate="2013-03-06T10:52:11.013" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3296" PostId="1828" Score="1" Text="I made a first pass for excerpts. That's a great article--an excellent overview. Thanks for sharing." CreationDate="2013-03-06T15:34:22.983" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3297" PostId="117" Score="0" Text="[Very similar question](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/1753/347)." CreationDate="2013-03-06T18:09:39.147" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3299" PostId="117" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann That's actually a dupe of this one." CreationDate="2013-03-06T18:17:40.437" UserId="94" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3300" PostId="117" Score="0" Text="I understand what you mean, in that the questions are similar and yours is first. However, I think both stand on their own and are not exact duplicates. The answers here focus more on the &quot;what exercises should I avoid&quot; and &quot;what exercises require no knowledge&quot;, whereas the other one focuses on &quot;what preparatory work should I do&quot;. I wouldn't be opposed if they were **merged**, however. *Closing* the other one would be misguided in my view." CreationDate="2013-03-06T18:20:35.313" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3301" PostId="117" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I don't know, to me they looked similar, but then again... I might be wrong. :P" CreationDate="2013-03-06T18:21:40.240" UserId="94" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3302" PostId="1812" Score="1" Text="@slugster I am 178 cm tall and my weight is 70 kg(approximately 154 lbs). So, I guess I am not overweight. I have consulted orthopaedics and they told me it's not a case of arthritis or rheumatism. I used to play table tennis (ping-pong)but now for almost half a year, I haven't played that." CreationDate="2013-03-07T07:54:02.530" UserId="984" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3303" PostId="1812" Score="0" Text="@Soutrik I would consider you to be quite skinny :) Those were simply some common problems I threw out there for consideration. You really should see a specialist - it might be expensive but living a pain (and injury) free life can be worth the expense. It could even be a simple problem. If you seek treatment and feel comfortable talking about it then let us know how it goes." CreationDate="2013-03-07T09:03:17.723" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3304" PostId="1811" Score="1" Text="+1 - If nothing else, I've found martial arts better at counteracting my desk job solely *because I can stick with it without getting bored.*" CreationDate="2013-03-07T21:48:22.737" UserId="341" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3305" PostId="976" Score="0" Text="@DaveNewton I found this PDF that seems to mirror the stone lock, at least. http://ymaa.com/files/B1361-Hojo-sample.pdf I'm surprised that the Okinawans dropped or lost the practice of tossing them in favor of just doing stances and kata with them--it seems much less useful application of the tool." CreationDate="2013-03-07T22:34:55.463" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3306" PostId="976" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann My hojo undo book shows some tossing and catching exercises, IIRC-I'd have to double-check though." CreationDate="2013-03-08T01:58:18.353" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3307" PostId="976" Score="0" Text="@DaveNewton That would buoy my spirits. It's the coolest part." CreationDate="2013-03-08T02:06:45.000" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3312" PostId="1836" Score="1" Text="I see this &quot;train while exhausted&quot; advice all the time in martial arts; but sport science has shown it to be counterproductive for learning proper technique in many manner of sport." CreationDate="2013-03-14T13:14:30.860" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3314" PostId="1836" Score="3" Text="There's better in this book, but Tom Kurz' Science of Sports Training page 267 (under Technical Exercises in a Workout) notes, &quot;If, at the initial stages of learning a technique, athletes are allowed to get tired, their fatigue will alter the technique and incorrect technique will be learned, perhaps permanently.&quot; On the next page he notes &quot;One [technical] workout can be done at the end of the microcycle, when the athlete is tired [from previous workouts in the week], to learn how to use the technique in adverse conditions. In this workout only well-mastered techniques should be practiced.&quot;" CreationDate="2013-03-14T13:33:06.570" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3316" PostId="1836" Score="1" Text="@DaveLiepmann: Since this a trope, might we have a [question](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/1838/82) on it?" CreationDate="2013-03-14T13:44:26.087" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3317" PostId="1836" Score="0" Text="I'm no expert, but I think your edit is accurate." CreationDate="2013-03-14T13:44:45.560" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3320" PostId="1835" Score="0" Text="I'm curious, what style/lineage (Leung Ting/Mai Gei Wong/Wong Shun Leung etc) are you studying? It may help in discerning what type of drills your Sihing might be familiar with, that you can ask them to teach you more of." CreationDate="2013-03-14T15:49:31.117" UserId="1011" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3321" PostId="1835" Score="0" Text="I'm studying LT Wing Chun under EWTO of GM Kernspecht." CreationDate="2013-03-14T15:57:39.453" UserId="1008" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3322" PostId="1841" Score="0" Text="Could not agree more. +1." CreationDate="2013-03-14T16:02:15.023" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3323" PostId="1840" Score="1" Text="The chapter goes into some more detail. I've linked to it [here](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/1774/terminology-list-of-all-boxing-and-muay-thai-technique-terms-with-example-photo/1780#1780)" CreationDate="2013-03-14T16:17:33.947" UserId="718" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3324" PostId="40" Score="8" Text="*&quot;That's why guitarists pick a side and stick with it.&quot;* But of course, guitarists face no risk of being attacked by a off-handed guitar..." CreationDate="2013-03-17T20:24:01.770" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3325" PostId="1843" Score="3" Text="I sit seiza, there's nothing wrong with sitting seiza, but I find it interesting to note that many explanations of the benefits of traditional practices are post-hoc [rationalizations](http://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Rationalization). Looking for reasons to do something after already choosing to do it means that we're [looking for excuses to follow tradition instead of choosing a goal](http://lesswrong.com/lw/ju/rationalization/) (e.g. strengthening the legs and hips, or meditating, or developing posture, or increasing our flexibility) and researching the optimal methods to achieve that goal." CreationDate="2013-03-18T16:47:09.277" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3326" PostId="1792" Score="2" Text="@vijay I was the same way. I've been doing my art for about a year and a half now. When I first was able to go to sparring, I wasn't sure about my reach, my power, and was afraid of hurting my partner. I found as I practiced more, I learned my reach, and learned to control power, and became more comfortable. It's just a matter of time as long as you keep at it." CreationDate="2013-03-18T16:51:29.310" UserId="167" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3327" PostId="40" Score="0" Text="Wu sword form is mainly right-handed but you swap the sword to your left a few times." CreationDate="2013-03-18T17:45:55.420" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3328" PostId="807" Score="1" Text="Ouch! That is an expensive DVD! :(" CreationDate="2013-03-18T19:23:59.390" UserId="167" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3329" PostId="1850" Score="1" Text="[japanese.se](http://japanese.stackexchange.com/) might help as well." CreationDate="2013-03-19T09:40:39.130" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3330" PostId="1850" Score="0" Text="Not so much: http://japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/11494/translation-for-those-who-are-possessed-by-nothing-possess-everything" CreationDate="2013-03-19T19:30:53.200" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3331" PostId="1850" Score="2" Text="The OP failed to mention that this question was [previously asked on japanese.se](http://japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/11491/please-help-me-find-a-translation), where it was closed as off-topic.  I didn't think it was fit to migrate here, but one user [did have luck re-asking a similar question from japanese.se on MA](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/1624/aikido-is-first-and-foremost-budo/1632), so I pointed that out in a comment." CreationDate="2013-03-19T20:34:01.563" UserDisplayName="user1021" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3332" PostId="1753" Score="0" Text="Related: [What exercises are safe (or not) for total beginners?](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/117/94)" CreationDate="2013-03-21T15:02:37.670" UserId="94" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3333" PostId="1854" Score="2" Text="Excellent answer. +1. Amazing video. I had heard about, but never saw it to be honest. I also noticed that by using the balls of the foot, your distance has to be shortened a bit too. It is interesting to see that the kick he hits the guy (at 3:05) comes from the front just like the tae-kwon-do style (knee up to the front, then the hip rotation to whip the foot to the face). Thanks for that, Dave." CreationDate="2013-03-22T17:12:34.763" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3334" PostId="1854" Score="0" Text="@Lex You're right about the distance element; I'd forgotten. Of course that's even more of an issue with the muay Thai round kick using the shin, which is still very effective. Personally I get a lot of mileage out of the &quot;question mark&quot; setup (i.e., chambering like a front kick) for the roundhouse kick to the head." CreationDate="2013-03-22T17:17:58.493" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3335" PostId="1854" Score="3" Text="I think this answer is great, but I would like to throw out that from the Taekwondo perspective, traditional styles use both the instep and the ball of the foot for striking - different techniques for different activities (flat foot for training/sparring with partners, ball of foot for breaking things and opponents)." CreationDate="2013-03-22T18:34:09.323" UserId="338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3339" PostId="1838" Score="0" Text="It would be interesting to know what is the minimal amount of exercise needed to improve a certain technique. (I'm referring to MED - Minimal Effective Dose - it had fleeting mentions of martial arts in the [four hour chef](http://fourhourchef.com))." CreationDate="2013-03-25T09:34:27.703" UserId="108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3340" PostId="1838" Score="0" Text="@Reno: If only there was a stack exchange site dedicated to martial arts where you could ask just that question..... ^_~" CreationDate="2013-03-25T10:08:04.343" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3342" PostId="1838" Score="0" Text="It is too broad to be asked to be honest. (And really hard to answer, I'll try to find out more about this and answer it myself)" CreationDate="2013-03-25T10:27:18.667" UserId="108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3344" PostId="1838" Score="1" Text="@Reno: I think there is a good question there. Besides, it's not like this site is overburdened with questions so the more the merrier." CreationDate="2013-03-25T10:38:46.313" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3345" PostId="1860" Score="3" Text="How would daily practicing and meditation help exactly? Please elaborate." CreationDate="2013-03-25T11:59:35.470" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3350" PostId="1681" Score="0" Text="-1 this avoids sparring instead of dealing with the issue." CreationDate="2013-03-25T14:18:42.497" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3351" PostId="1681" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann - have you tried any of that or you are theoritising? I have seen how it works and done it myself." CreationDate="2013-03-25T19:06:52.240" UserId="759" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3352" PostId="1681" Score="0" Text="I've never had the problem, so I can't say I've tried it directly. However I've dabbled with sticky hands and am quite confident in describing that drill as &quot;not sparring&quot; and &quot;not fighting&quot;. Since the question asks for ways to fight and spar, an answer that recommends doing something **instead** of fighting and sparring seems unhelpful." CreationDate="2013-03-25T19:32:02.240" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3353" PostId="1681" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann - perhaps, the version you have seen was different from what I have practiced (sticky hands drill can have as much sparring as both participants want). In short, it IS fighting; try to dabble it again, perhaps it will change your confedency." CreationDate="2013-03-25T19:58:15.770" UserId="759" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3354" PostId="1681" Score="0" Text="Do you have any video examples of what you're referring to? Perhaps a ruleset? I've seen it be a useful drill, but never rise to the level of sparring." CreationDate="2013-03-25T20:05:39.967" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3355" PostId="1681" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann  - here is a good one &#xA;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4TKgoybvBs" CreationDate="2013-03-26T01:19:58.587" UserId="759" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3356" PostId="1681" Score="0" Text="let us [continue this discussion in chat](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/8069/discussion-between-dave-liepmann-and-steve-v)" CreationDate="2013-03-26T01:22:54.370" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3361" PostId="1862" Score="0" Text="I am not sure the question should be on topic since it involves shoe size which are not really martial art specific.  Maybe [Japan language](http://japanese.stackexchange.com/) would be a better place to ask?  However, the question itself is very well phrased, researched, and interesting to martial artists so I vote we keep it! BTW +1." CreationDate="2013-03-26T07:46:44.420" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3362" PostId="1860" Score="2" Text="This is a set of assertions, not an objective answer backed by evidence. I accept that the statements are true for you, but SE is about objective answers that are supported by evidence and can be applied generally." CreationDate="2013-03-26T10:45:11.013" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3363" PostId="1681" Score="0" Text="Chi Sao is fitted for Wing Chun but i doubt other styles will benefit from this. It's training to just react instead of thinking about your next moves. You are just rsponding to your opponents force." CreationDate="2013-03-26T10:56:00.660" UserId="1008" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3364" PostId="1681" Score="0" Text="@Jeroen please try it ;). If (during the real street fight) your opponent would &quot;react&quot; to your move and poke you in the eye - will the knowledge that this move **has not been planned** make you feel better?" CreationDate="2013-03-26T14:11:59.680" UserId="759" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3365" PostId="1862" Score="1" Text="Tabi is considered training equipment in some martial arts, which is why I reasoned it is on topic. I am sure we can find other concepts and equipment which are important to some martial arts but also has other uses. That being said, it might not be a good place to get an answer. But that has more to do with the current state of this site." CreationDate="2013-03-26T15:55:43.043" UserId="1034" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3366" PostId="1862" Score="0" Text="I checked out Japan language, it is defenitely off topic there as they only seem to disuss the language." CreationDate="2013-03-26T16:00:20.417" UserId="1034" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3367" PostId="1862" Score="0" Text="I was unsure and to be honest, I like the question so it should remain open!  ^_~" CreationDate="2013-03-26T17:30:22.990" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3368" PostId="1681" Score="0" Text="I'm practicing Wing Chun for some years now. And Chi Sau highly focuses on the main WC techniques. Bong sau, Tan sau, Fook sau, etc... Chi Sao is only effective if you really invest a lot of time so when you have to fight you can use these 'reflexes' instead of planning your fight. Basically you should switch to full WC training ;) But i agree Chi sao is a perfect way to close the gap between training and a real fight." CreationDate="2013-03-26T18:17:59.913" UserId="1008" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3369" PostId="1860" Score="0" Text="@MarkC.Wallace yes, the statements are true for me and I hope this is generally applicable. thanks" CreationDate="2013-03-28T05:40:45.000" UserId="1031" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3374" PostId="1870" Score="0" Text="First of all, this question is highly subject and not constructive for Stack Exchange. You'll end up with varying answers across the board, each one with their own pros and cons and opinions. Second, unless headphones are integral and a direct part of a martial arts system and its physical training, this question is off topic for this site." CreationDate="2013-04-04T11:17:11.577" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3375" PostId="1717" Score="0" Text="At the risk of being redundant, could you indicate explicitly what your 'purpose' is? Is it to win a duel, to survive, to win a tournament, to maim, to kill, or something else entirely? I believe the answer will depend on this." CreationDate="2013-04-05T00:45:35.353" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3376" PostId="1876" Score="2" Text="Spot on. Footwork is everything in this case scenario (and in many others), while keeping hands up protecting the face. +1." CreationDate="2013-04-05T15:07:12.340" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3377" PostId="1717" Score="0" Text="Any situation where life and death are at issue, rather than points." CreationDate="2013-04-05T16:19:23.147" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3378" PostId="1876" Score="0" Text="Good answer! I'd add that, if you are equally strong despite the size difference, you are actually at an advantage for many grappling manoeuvers because your center of gravity is lower. I do not know how much Wing Chun uses chin na, but if you are trained in the basics, it can become your best tool: by rapidly closing the distance between you and your opponent then using chin na to restrict his movements/prevent him from moving out, you can put yourself in a position where he can't use his full power because you are too far inside his reach, while still being able to fight at 100% yourself." CreationDate="2013-04-05T20:43:55.557" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3379" PostId="1877" Score="0" Text="-1 This is a Q&amp;A site. Don't leave &quot;the math&quot; unsaid; answer the question." CreationDate="2013-04-06T01:54:10.137" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3380" PostId="1717" Score="0" Text="You might also like to ask this on the ARMA forums at http://www.thearma.org/forum/index.php" CreationDate="2013-04-06T19:16:42.780" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3381" PostId="1876" Score="0" Text="Another vote for footwork drills.  I'm biased but if you can find a Wu tai chi stylist near you their small frame pushing hands drills might be a useful add-on.  No disrespect to wing chun - I like to borrow useful drills from lost of places." CreationDate="2013-04-06T19:21:44.630" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3382" PostId="1610" Score="2" Text="A friend benefited greatly from seeing a doctor associated with the Karate Union of GB who understood medicine and martial arts.  A problem with his knees was actually too tight achilles tendons." CreationDate="2013-04-06T19:26:12.507" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3384" PostId="1350" Score="0" Text="+1 Damn good answer.  Geoff Thompson makes similar recommendations.  Terry ONeill would add leg sweeps.    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoff_Thompson_(writer)    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_O%27Neill_%28martial_artist%29" CreationDate="2013-04-06T19:34:06.130" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3385" PostId="219" Score="0" Text="One of the best I've found is mae ukemi - as fast as you can, turn, roll back, turn, repeat.  3 sets of 3 minutes.  Works your lungs hard as well as you stay curled while chasing speed." CreationDate="2013-04-06T19:39:39.743" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3386" PostId="1879" Score="0" Text="I'm guessing that when you describe the 'common first step' you're hinting at a drill that helps develop the suddenness of the release?" CreationDate="2013-04-07T16:40:21.320" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3387" PostId="1879" Score="0" Text="Yes.  It's the simplest path for the force to travel." CreationDate="2013-04-07T17:25:43.747" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3388" PostId="1880" Score="0" Text="So, coiling the spine and then suddenly relaxing it would be a good example, but not the only way, because it can be done at varying degrees anywhere in the body, and with the right connection, it can be the entire body together?" CreationDate="2013-04-09T02:07:12.463" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3389" PostId="1882" Score="0" Text="the height of the kicks should never be above waist level. Yet i only manage to get good kicks at knee level." CreationDate="2013-04-09T07:43:02.307" UserId="1008" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3390" PostId="1883" Score="0" Text="I can't help but muse... surely the &quot;strength&quot; that &quot;flows through the body&quot; would be more accurately described as Qi, especially when the term is used within the context of the internal arts?" CreationDate="2013-04-09T10:53:32.823" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3391" PostId="1882" Score="0" Text="@slugster. I think you covered it all except for one small but important aspect. Whilst, as you correctly pointed, it doesn't really matter if the kicking leg is straight or not, the supporting leg that stays on the ground however should have a slight bend in order to provide better balance, make you less vulnerable to landing on your butt should you miss or over-commit your kick, less vulnerable to being taken down by having a too high stance and lessen the chances of having your knee broken by a low side-kick to the knee." CreationDate="2013-04-09T15:41:09.433" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3392" PostId="1883" Score="2" Text="@slugster No, it wouldn't it.  Qi in chinese is a generic term for energy of all kinds. It's a very broad term." CreationDate="2013-04-09T17:49:54.347" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3394" PostId="853" Score="0" Text="The significance of a Kamae being a moment of continual motion is hugely pertinent.  We move through Kamae.  Great answer." CreationDate="2013-04-09T20:52:25.940" UserId="1066" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3396" PostId="1889" Score="2" Text="I would be very interested to hear the comments of those who downvoted... A radical opinion, no doubt, however the arguments seemed all pretty valid to me, though I hate having to admit it. His arguments might indeed hurt many people's feelings, but it does not seem like he is saying that MA is completely ueless; rather addressing the issue of whether MA is useful on (targeted?)self-defence. The answer is no. The following are my own words: Still MA is the closest most people have to approach this issue under a learning perspective. With this plus all other side benefits MA are still useful." CreationDate="2013-04-10T06:33:18.497" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3398" PostId="1887" Score="0" Text="+1 for _When you spar put your mind in the predator state._" CreationDate="2013-04-10T16:40:42.890" UserId="424" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3399" PostId="1792" Score="1" Text="+1 for _By depriving your partner of a diligent attempt to kick them in the head, you are stunting their growth as a martial artist._" CreationDate="2013-04-10T16:43:07.183" UserId="424" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3400" PostId="1892" Score="6" Text="People are not offended with your previous post, they simply disagree with your answer to the question (which could also be because of the original formatting you had or they may simply not understand what you are saying in the way you expected)." CreationDate="2013-04-10T22:26:01.617" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3401" PostId="1795" Score="1" Text="Ouch, I really thought this was a good answer! I'd like some feedback from the downvoter, if possible, so I can improve as a martial artist." CreationDate="2013-04-10T22:49:47.283" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3402" PostId="1892" Score="2" Text="One or two downvotes do not represent a majority of people here, only one the one or two who casted the votes. Likewise, people can also upvote your answer. In the future, you can edit your own answer and add on to it if you have something to add rather than post multiple answers. This site is not forum so I suggest starting with the [faq] and the [about](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/about) page to get a better idea of what the site is and how it works." CreationDate="2013-04-11T00:02:06.403" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3403" PostId="1892" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the wisdom Rafal. I was _born_ in 1990, you were already starting MA! Also, imagining 'Option 1' was initially hilarious, but imagining that freaked me out xD" CreationDate="2013-04-11T01:28:42.993" UserId="367" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3405" PostId="1889" Score="5" Text="I downvoted because I've learned de-escalation and violence detection and modern etiquette (not reiho) in karate, my judo dojo is decidedly not militaristic, I've learned self-defense in every art I've trained, and I don't understand #6. He also admits that knowing how to fight helps the odds. He is also perpetuating this tired &quot;martial arts is a sporty sport that can't be used to defend yourself because it's so sporty that you'll only use sport techniques&quot; myth. He also perpetuates this strange (but common) fear of the mostly mythic hyper-predator." CreationDate="2013-04-11T02:30:32.563" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3406" PostId="1892" Score="4" Text="-1 Both answers are the same: myth of MA being sports thus useless, over simplification of violence, and oversimplified sociological arguments. A factual error: Aikido does have sport competition." CreationDate="2013-04-11T07:41:49.157" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3407" PostId="1889" Score="0" Text="Point taken. @Rafal Burchard: would you be kind enough to expand on #6, please? I have to agree to certain extend to the 'sporty' thing. BJJ for example is very efficient on a one-to-one only for example if you don't consider biting, eye poking. If someone takes me in side-control on a street for example, I would probably end-up with half of his throat in my teeth." CreationDate="2013-04-11T10:19:28.853" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3408" PostId="1889" Score="0" Text="Plus, I believe Rafal does not make explicit which type of self-defense we are talking about. Defending yourself against an old, drunk homeless is different than from a 'predator' like, who might be specifically targeting you. In this case, traditional MA is not as useful as it should, only if they 'modernize' themselves as it is the case with the training you mentioned, @Dave Liepmann. Very debatable, as we depend on defining the different instances that 'self-defense' might appear under properly. Perhaps another question?" CreationDate="2013-04-11T10:26:40.647" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3409" PostId="1889" Score="1" Text="@Lex, why do you think that as the person on the bottom, you'd have an advantage in biting a BJJ practitioner? Is there a reason he would be unable to bite you beyond &quot;sport sport sportists never think of such things&quot;? And how do you you think someone on top of side control would respond to being bitten--by being nicer to you, or with strikes or a choke? Have you ever tried, say, purple nurpling an unfriendly BJJ brown belt while rolling to see whether it would result in a reduction in the beat-down you were already receiving?" CreationDate="2013-04-12T01:48:29.547" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3410" PostId="1893" Score="0" Text="Personally I would consider biting a valid but somewhat ineffectual and momentary distraction - if you are in a situation where &quot;non-legal&quot; moves are okay then there is a good chance your opponent is whacked out on something (adrenaline at the very least) and can ignore a bite. IOW the bite better be followed up by something else pretty quick for it to have any benefit." CreationDate="2013-04-12T08:46:27.673" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3411" PostId="1893" Score="0" Text="If your fighting on the streets and your down biting is really helpfull, but you'll really have to bite, not just putting in your teeth. Bite to take a chunk out and you'll be released very quickly" CreationDate="2013-04-12T09:03:20.273" UserId="1008" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3412" PostId="1889" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann, because it does cause a shock reaction, which if you do not manage to at least tear a chunk of flesh out, you will at least have some temporary gap to escape while the person instinctively pulls away from the bite. If the person on the bottom also happens do know BJJ, biting is another weapon besides the conventional side escapes. Receiving strikes is OK, but you are right, if I am being choked, then perhaps it might be too late. Nonetheless the value in it is the surprise element, the extra weapon and the temporary space created." CreationDate="2013-04-12T10:12:34.133" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3413" PostId="1895" Score="4" Text="Rafal, please do not post multiple answers unless each one is fundamentally different. If you have something to add or edit, please update your other answers or respond to others in comments. The Q&amp;A model of Stack Exchange is not a discussion forum." CreationDate="2013-04-14T02:34:00.747" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3414" PostId="1895" Score="0" Text="Thanks, good reading. Isn't it weird how as humans, we've progressed to very high levels of civilization, but we still have to worry about 'predators' and 'areas where you might be hunted' and so on... just like apes or wild animals :/" CreationDate="2013-04-14T03:32:00.620" UserId="367" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3415" PostId="1897" Score="1" Text="But can you give reason _why_ someone should read those books?" CreationDate="2013-04-14T12:31:24.263" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3417" PostId="1896" Score="0" Text="-1 for lack of understanding of the laws regarding self defence." CreationDate="2013-04-15T11:43:45.900" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3418" PostId="1896" Score="2" Text="Hmm maybe I do not known all self defense laws in Europe... Or world" CreationDate="2013-04-15T12:10:18.220" UserId="1075" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3419" PostId="1896" Score="0" Text="The point was biting is not the option if you looking for your safety in long run. There are lots of other options..." CreationDate="2013-04-15T12:12:00.637" UserId="1075" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3420" PostId="1896" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion Huh? He wrote &quot;I would be in position to deal with it TO GET AWAY using level of the force that I perceived TO SAVE MY SKIN&quot;. IANAL but that seems to me like the textbook legal definition of self-defense." CreationDate="2013-04-15T15:28:53.513" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3421" PostId="1896" Score="0" Text="*if you can justify using that level of force it is legal* is at best oversimplifying the laws covering self defence and certainly shows no understanding of legal matters. Sorry, my down vote stands." CreationDate="2013-04-15T20:26:35.797" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3422" PostId="1896" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion, I am aware of playing the devil's advocate, and there's no need to really answer me, but is it OUR responsibility to know the laws in OP's country? And is this law.SE or martialarts.SE ?" CreationDate="2013-04-15T23:36:54.300" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3423" PostId="1896" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke: I was aware of that ^_~.  To be honest, this is almost a good answer bare for the legal ignorance.  I like the getting away, the not staying to fight, and the note about the dangers of getting bio hazard material into your mouth. However, ignorance of the law is no excuse for any martial artist. Propagating myths about the law is likely to get people in jail." CreationDate="2013-04-16T06:19:56.923" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3424" PostId="1896" Score="0" Text="@RafalBurchard could you remove the parts of your answer that deal with the judicial legality of your actions? :)" CreationDate="2013-04-16T14:26:08.610" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3425" PostId="1903" Score="0" Text="I'm really looking for answers that specifically address foul techniques in comparison to other escape techniques. Could you speak more to that, instead of generally about biting? Also, are you worried at all about potentially escalating the fight while in a disadvantageous position?" CreationDate="2013-04-16T20:57:40.223" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3426" PostId="1896" Score="1" Text="Regardless of the law, this answer does not address the question: how do these techniques compare to other escape techniques? The only part that's relevant to that question is the fact that it bears a risk of disease." CreationDate="2013-04-16T20:59:16.120" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3427" PostId="1905" Score="0" Text="I am unhappy with your statement of attacking first.  This *might* put you on the wrong side of the law.  This post *might* even constitute evidence that you intended to be corned to fight thus diminishing any self defence argument in court. I am not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV so I would strongly advise you seek local legal advise." CreationDate="2013-04-17T10:41:36.190" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3428" PostId="1905" Score="2" Text="If this situation is common where you live, consider moving somewhere else?... ^_~" CreationDate="2013-04-17T10:42:55.910" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3429" PostId="1905" Score="0" Text="I did. I left my country some time ago &lt;^_^&gt;. Regarding the law aspect, there is a good book, Geoff Thompson - Dead or Alive: The Choice is Yours. He addresses the preemptive defense. Often in the eyes of the law (for this kind of situation), you get done not so much by what you do, but by what you say. If you can present irrefutable argument that you preemptively acted first because you were really scared for you life you will get away with it (in UK at least where I am now). Intending to get yourself cornered is a ludicrous idea that could not be argued against you." CreationDate="2013-04-17T11:39:27.983" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3430" PostId="1906" Score="0" Text="True, I am a big fan of Aikido. Love it; for its art, not its combat efficiency. Trained Aikido from Oct/95 until Apr/2002, when I left my country. Randori in Aikikai's Aikido can best be described as multi-person Jiyu-Waza. With 7 years experience in Aikido I can tell you with good confidence that what is taught in Aikido alone will not suffice in this situation. In order to really make an escape route you would need to stunt one or two, and simply shifting their weight around does not do the trick, though it is indeed useful for after you launched your actual attack." CreationDate="2013-04-17T11:44:39.383" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3432" PostId="1908" Score="0" Text="I think I can see where you are coming from with the 'position' argument. I have always thought the same. However the reason why I asked this question now is because someone made me think that sometimes position alone is not enough to assess your preemptive attack, as in the above case scenario. What if I attack the strong guy because he is in a favorable position, but then the A4G pulls a gun or a knife? Would it be better to have neutralized him first? Or what if you hit the leader and the other back-off? Surely there must be a triage process." CreationDate="2013-04-17T12:36:11.607" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3433" PostId="1907" Score="0" Text="So Karate does address this issue? What style of Karate is it that you train? +1 for a strong argument. Still, the question I posted on the comment below remains: &quot;What if I attack the strong guy (A3S) because he is in a favorable position, but then the A4G pulls a gun or a knife? Would it be better to have neutralized him first?&quot;" CreationDate="2013-04-17T12:40:43.233" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3434" PostId="1906" Score="0" Text="You are absolutely right. I do not disagree with you. I'm just saying that what you mention, only by itself is not enough. The issue with the Uke's resistance is troublesome because it depends on Uke to actually commit to his resistance and continue applying it, which can be useful when the Uke has gotten hold of you. When Uke is only punching or trying to stab you, they will not over-commit as in a Tsuki or Shomen-Uchi. They will try to launch a slash and quickly swing the arm back, rather than leaving it out-stretched for you to Sankyo ou Shiro-Nague them." CreationDate="2013-04-17T12:52:12.813" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3435" PostId="1908" Score="0" Text="The only thing you can control yourself is the advantage of your position. All other factors are basically unknown. You won't know who has a knife or gun, or who is actually capable of fighting or has the guts. Keeping your position give you are way of controlling your environment." CreationDate="2013-04-17T13:06:43.087" UserId="1008" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3437" PostId="1908" Score="0" Text="Good point. I see it now. Though, I think I got your point so much that it made me think that in actuality, not even our position is something that we have absolute control of; but you are right." CreationDate="2013-04-17T13:26:12.027" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3438" PostId="1906" Score="0" Text="You are very kind. Thanks. Thinking better, if you manage to get someone to land on their head or their back on the pavement as you suggested via a Kokyu-Nague, then this is a pretty good way out too. +1. Thank you." CreationDate="2013-04-17T13:27:59.613" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3439" PostId="1908" Score="0" Text="Absolute control never exists in real life danger situations :) We can at best try to gain an advantage." CreationDate="2013-04-17T14:33:53.553" UserId="1008" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3442" PostId="1909" Score="0" Text="Definitely agree with the last setence. +1" CreationDate="2013-04-17T19:07:59.813" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3443" PostId="1911" Score="0" Text="Thank you @Steve V. But this does not really address the question. The point I am trying to learn is which of those agreessors would you attack first, and why; not so much on how to attack them." CreationDate="2013-04-17T19:10:20.713" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3444" PostId="1911" Score="1" Text="@Lex - imho, the right answer would be &quot;it depends&quot; - on situation, on your training and style, etc." CreationDate="2013-04-17T19:42:00.650" UserId="759" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3445" PostId="1907" Score="0" Text="I practice Shorinji-ryu Karatedo, a close cousin of Shotokan. Some of our katas include very explosive beginings, which we interpret the same way (i.e. go for the biggest threat you can manage quickly first). But I must say we do not practice against gun-wielding opponents, which can probably show in my answer." CreationDate="2013-04-18T06:45:38.300" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3446" PostId="1910" Score="0" Text="Just to clarify for those who might not make the connection: Olympic TKD is what is also referred to as WTF Taekwondo (which has different rules from most ITF-based organizations; for example, most ITF-based styles live off the front leg round kick and base strategies off of both closed and open sparring stances).  Love the perspective from this answer, just wanted to clarify for others (since I mentioned ITF in the question)!" CreationDate="2013-04-18T13:08:26.660" UserId="338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3447" PostId="1908" Score="1" Text="Position-based defense is what we teach as well - the advantage of it is that if you are able to dictate position (which is a bit easier against aggressors who want to press forward), you can essentially use the attackers themselves as shields (which tends to create confusion and frustration for the attackers).  Easier said than done (which is why we practice it and actually test it as part of senior-level belt testings), but immensely useful in giving yourself a chance to escape." CreationDate="2013-04-18T13:14:44.283" UserId="338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3449" PostId="1907" Score="0" Text="I can't find a single hole in your arguments above. So I am 'forced' to agree with all your points, especially the &quot;strike the one presenting the biggest threat that you feel are capable of downing/incapacitating in one strike&quot; part, which is why I am choosing your answer as the preferred one. Thank you. I guess the whole is about, as usual, psychological preparation and conscious decision on whether to fight or comply." CreationDate="2013-04-19T13:14:28.327" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3450" PostId="1911" Score="1" Text="Still, +1 for the 'your goal is NOT to grapple'. I agree 100% even though I am a BJJ student." CreationDate="2013-04-19T13:15:29.910" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3451" PostId="1914" Score="1" Text="+1 for the &quot;hit fast, hit hard, accept you'll be hit&quot;. Though I disagree that boxing as it is taught at the gyms would ideal. I think it would have to be a different school with this sort of situation as their focus, with special attention at the psychology of accepting 'you'll be hit', while giving good instruction on what happens inside of us at a physiological level. By that I mean, getting people to understand the difference between Fear and Adrenaline and how we feel them in our bodies and how to use this to our advantage (being more resistant to pain, etc.) Thank you." CreationDate="2013-04-19T13:30:08.060" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3452" PostId="1913" Score="0" Text="+1 too. Very close to what we are looking for. I think this systematic approach is ideal for analyzing the situation around. It is by rehearsing it (even if mentally only) that we start getting used to the idea of are thus better prepared to face this situation with a bit more awareness. Spot on. Thanks for that @AdamJones." CreationDate="2013-04-19T13:32:04.177" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3453" PostId="1912" Score="0" Text="Thanks @RafalBurchard. I believe it would be beneficial doing this kind of mental rehearsing. Cheers for that." CreationDate="2013-04-19T13:34:20.450" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3454" PostId="1917" Score="0" Text="I'm really looking for answers that specifically address foul techniques **in comparison to other escape techniques**. Could you speak more to that, instead of generally about biting? Also, are you worried at all about potentially escalating the fight while in a disadvantageous position? We are not assuming that the attacker is already maximally violent while on top." CreationDate="2013-04-19T17:03:20.790" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3455" PostId="1914" Score="0" Text="Fair comment - I was primarily thinking of learning to take a punch and move fast." CreationDate="2013-04-19T17:09:07.343" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3456" PostId="1893" Score="0" Text="Could you clarify the context between &quot;tournament&quot; and &quot;self-defense&quot;, please?" CreationDate="2013-04-19T18:31:17.697" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3457" PostId="1893" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke I thought it was clear that because we're talking about explicitly tournament-illegal techniques, we're therefore talking about the utility of these techniques outside of competition." CreationDate="2013-04-19T19:02:41.443" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3458" PostId="1917" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann. I'm sorry, I didn't realise you had changed the title. I will edit my answer." CreationDate="2013-04-19T19:46:29.783" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3460" PostId="1893" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Gotcha. That's what I thought. Say, what's missing from my answer to make it valuable enough to you?" CreationDate="2013-04-19T20:14:28.767" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3461" PostId="1893" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke I upvoted it, and currently it's the best, but I wanted to sustain the suspense so more people would answer :D" CreationDate="2013-04-19T20:34:05.213" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3462" PostId="1894" Score="0" Text="My question was originally triggered by surprise (in another question) about how many people seem to think biting and so on work as some automatic, easy escape, or elicit a predictable and desirable response. Your answer addresses these points well. I wouldn't say that legal and illegal moves require &quot;equal&quot; training, but that's quibbling." CreationDate="2013-04-19T20:35:40.890" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3463" PostId="1907" Score="0" Text="@Lex Thanks for the vote! In the other answers, I really liked the case made for positioning myself, and I must say that positioning- and opponent-based defense are not mutually exclusive, as in you can use positioning to gain an advantage on key opponents, maximizing your opportunities to flee/fight. Basically, use whatever means you deem necessay to achieve a safe conclusion to the encounter. In the end, it's all that matters." CreationDate="2013-04-20T03:44:35.673" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3464" PostId="1795" Score="0" Text="I have no idea why the downvote.  This is a great answer in term of advise, drills, and humour! +1" CreationDate="2013-04-21T10:54:43.583" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3465" PostId="1919" Score="10" Text="In most of the world the question *&quot;Is [violent action XYZ] legal for defense?&quot;* can only be answered with detailed knowledge of the situation in which it occurs." CreationDate="2013-04-21T22:45:37.613" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3466" PostId="1920" Score="0" Text="Thank you. About the stance, in Krav Maga I was taught that you need to be minorly alert on the street, as in almost never texting, always realizing what can and cannot be used against you or for you on the street and to watch your surroundings. So, I was told to hold my hands in a way where they are always close to my chest so to allow for quick movement. (Like holding on to hoodie strings, or top of coat, simply fiddling with fingers and the sort). Unlike other arts, this one was built for the street, and comes very useful in Brooklyn. sooo? idk." CreationDate="2013-04-22T00:13:10.837" UserId="1092" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3468" PostId="1920" Score="8" Text="@Tzvi Hehe, if you walk around like that then people will indeed think you are &quot;special&quot; and the men in white coats won't be far away ;) But being serious, once you've trained long enough the &quot;always be aware&quot; concept will become more obvious to you - you don't have to be walking around in the &quot;ready to spar&quot; pose. For example I can walk down the street texting on my phone and still be totally aware - in fact the phone can be utilized as a weapon. You should be able to attack or defend from any angle and any pose/stance." CreationDate="2013-04-22T01:05:47.697" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3470" PostId="1919" Score="5" Text="Just to make things clear: while you can ask legal advise from plebs on the Internet, please check with a criminal lawyer if you want a valid and legal answer." CreationDate="2013-04-22T07:20:41.243" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3471" PostId="1919" Score="4" Text="Ask a lawyer in the area where you live. IN general you can respond with equal amount of force in any given situation. That is general and there are exceptions." CreationDate="2013-04-22T19:43:03.633" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3478" PostId="1924" Score="3" Text="Welcome to Matial arts! The OP is asking for a good martial art for fitness with relevancy to MMA. He is not asking how to become an allround fighter." CreationDate="2013-04-23T20:34:10.933" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3482" PostId="1923" Score="0" Text="?PNF? is that [Prioproceptive Neuromuscular Facilitation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PNF_stretching)?" CreationDate="2013-04-24T11:20:36.780" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3484" PostId="1927" Score="5" Text="Zombie karateka are the exception :)" CreationDate="2013-04-26T09:19:35.133" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3485" PostId="1927" Score="1" Text="@slugster: I would class zombie karateka as undead so covered by the exception rule.  Ditto for [yakuza zombies with guns from the 444th portal aka Forest Of Resurrection](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0275773/)." CreationDate="2013-04-26T09:55:09.477" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3486" PostId="1927" Score="2" Text="Dang, I'm gonna have to aquire that movie and watch it one weekend." CreationDate="2013-04-26T10:53:00.650" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3487" PostId="1927" Score="0" Text="It is just awesome. Do it now." CreationDate="2013-04-26T11:18:03.747" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3488" PostId="1928" Score="0" Text="Very interesting story!" CreationDate="2013-04-26T13:11:16.277" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3489" PostId="1929" Score="6" Text="Are we essentially talking about parries?  Pretty sure nearly every striking martial art has the concept of a parry.  Bruce Lee just made it look easy (cinema choreography helps there ;) )." CreationDate="2013-04-26T15:08:00.040" UserId="338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3490" PostId="1929" Score="0" Text="We might be! Sounds right. But I never saw it when I used to take karate, nor have I seen it in Muay Thai yet." CreationDate="2013-04-26T15:25:23.593" UserId="1100" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3491" PostId="1928" Score="0" Text="Very interesting indeed; in fact it makes sense. I wonder why bother changing sides (from left side over to right side over) at the time of death: why not just leave it as it is (left side over)?" CreationDate="2013-04-26T16:14:58.687" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3492" PostId="1927" Score="1" Text="Versus is a damn awesome movie." CreationDate="2013-04-26T23:56:22.977" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3496" PostId="1933" Score="0" Text="Most blocks, when executed correctly, are effectively parries (there are exceptions like high blocks and cover ups [cant remember what this is technically called in boxing]). To the author's point, in most cases, intercepting a strike head on is a recipe for hurt (which is why they are generally taught as part of a sweeping motion)." CreationDate="2013-04-28T13:51:27.740" UserId="338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3498" PostId="1934" Score="1" Text="Perhaps this was a pedagogical trick to emphasize movement in the shoulder during regular jabs, and not a separate kind of punch in itself?" CreationDate="2013-04-29T13:24:19.183" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3500" PostId="1929" Score="0" Text="To be clear it is not as simple as just a parry, it's a pak sao as answered below." CreationDate="2013-04-29T13:32:21.293" UserId="1104" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3504" PostId="1931" Score="1" Text="My suspicion is that Bruce Lee most likely studied parries in wing chun, boxing, and karate (in order of his interest), and I don't believe any of those arts got their parries from weapons work." CreationDate="2013-04-29T14:25:25.720" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3506" PostId="1934" Score="0" Text="*Backwards* movement???" CreationDate="2013-04-29T14:34:02.360" UserId="1100" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3507" PostId="1934" Score="0" Text="A stretch reflex can be used in some punching techniques to add power, much like a wind-up. So yes, while neither of us was taking this class and I have no idea what he was trying to teach, backwards movement isn't bonkers in 100% of situations. Have you worked with this instructor? Does he have a fight record? Have you ever taken a muay thai class with him or someone else? Did you ask whether that movement was exaggerated for effect?" CreationDate="2013-04-29T14:41:09.130" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3508" PostId="1934" Score="0" Text="Excellent points...to be ascertained. No, I have only observed." CreationDate="2013-04-29T16:02:08.123" UserId="1100" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3511" PostId="1939" Score="0" Text="Doctor Liepmann? That's my father! :)" CreationDate="2013-04-29T19:28:18.203" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3513" PostId="1942" Score="1" Text="Was the pain at the front or back of the leg, i.e. at the top of the quads or hamstrings? Or was it higer still, maybe at the bottom of your abdominals? Or in between? Which splits can you do - longitudinal (&quot;American&quot;) or side (&quot;Chinese&quot;)?" CreationDate="2013-04-30T05:26:48.220" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3517" PostId="1937" Score="1" Text="Spiting hair, we could say that [Tomoe Gozen (巴 御前?)](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomoe_Gozen) was one of the first known ones although she would have trained in the ancestor martial arts that gave rise to those that might have influenced the ones that were used to derive judo/aikido.  ^_~" CreationDate="2013-04-30T10:14:16.150" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3518" PostId="1942" Score="0" Text="Also, which kicks? Teep, round?" CreationDate="2013-04-30T13:36:15.433" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3519" PostId="1942" Score="0" Text="Pain was in the front at the top of the quad. I can do longitudinal, not even *close* to Chinese; that feels like I'm going to break a hip when I try it." CreationDate="2013-04-30T14:41:18.570" UserId="1100" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3520" PostId="1942" Score="1" Text="If it happened during teeps, maybe your hip flexor was tired, and it wasn't about flexibility. If it was during round kicks, then it was almost certainly a lack of sideways flexibility. If it's just a stretchy problem and not pain, then keep training for a few months and see what happens. To get more answers here, you'll need to edit the question to include a *lot* more detail about the location of the pain, type of kicks, and background on previous training and flexibility benchmarks." CreationDate="2013-04-30T15:26:01.193" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3521" PostId="1931" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann. I agree." CreationDate="2013-04-30T18:57:36.173" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3522" PostId="1944" Score="2" Text="Welcome back :)" CreationDate="2013-04-30T21:59:20.153" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3523" PostId="1928" Score="2" Text="It may be something akin to button sides, which would explain the difference in death: http://www.primermagazine.com/2010/field-manual/why-do-men%E2%80%99s-and-women%E2%80%99s-shirts-button-on-different-sides &quot;Mens’ buttons are on the right side because men have always tended to dress themselves and most men (and women, for that matter) are right-handed.&#xA;&#xA;Womens’ buttons are on the left side because years ago (say, during the Victorian Era), the women that could afford fancy clothing with a bunch of buttons would rely on maids to help dress them.&quot;" CreationDate="2013-05-01T03:29:40.740" UserId="398" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3525" PostId="1946" Score="0" Text="+1, not sure if this is accurate but it's a good theory." CreationDate="2013-05-01T07:15:45.337" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3526" PostId="1944" Score="0" Text="@stslavik. Flawless. Thanks so much. +1" CreationDate="2013-05-01T09:29:46.257" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3530" PostId="1893" Score="0" Text="Related: &quot;if you cannot fight &quot;clean&quot; you have no business fighting &quot;dirty&quot;&quot; from [MAP](http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?s=363f380f7cdeb8be55f26f98f05e4dfe&amp;t=115797)" CreationDate="2013-05-01T14:23:59.687" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3531" PostId="1944" Score="0" Text="Never really left; just been inactive until the site adopted a more hopeful tone." CreationDate="2013-05-01T16:50:02.370" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3532" PostId="1905" Score="2" Text="From a legal standpoint, you're always in a gray area with self-defense. Self-defense is an affirmative defense; you're acknowledging that you committed the act for which you're charged, but stating that exigent circumstances made the action necessary. First strike does not necessarily negate self-defense; it does make it harder to prove. Being surrounded, however, gives you a good defense." CreationDate="2013-05-01T16:52:38.680" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3538" PostId="1945" Score="0" Text="We're just going to have to disagree on that. Cheers." CreationDate="2013-05-02T01:56:12.437" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3539" PostId="1905" Score="5" Text="Let's keep legal discussions off the site; they are very localized. @Sardathrion's caution is legitimate - when considering an attack, ponder the legal implications _IN YOUR LOCALITY_.  Anything beyond that is not martial arts, it is legal advice." CreationDate="2013-05-02T12:23:21.360" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3540" PostId="1942" Score="0" Text="Which kicks were you doing ?" CreationDate="2013-05-02T13:06:46.807" UserId="1109" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3541" PostId="1942" Score="0" Text="It was a teep kick." CreationDate="2013-05-02T14:24:52.890" UserId="1100" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3542" PostId="1778" Score="0" Text="My problem is this: John Hurley doesn't provide evidence for the existence of a codified system. It seems more likely that &quot;Scianóreacht&quot; for instance refers to the use of or skills with a knife in general, rather than a particular set of techniques, which likely existed in a less unified, familial training sort of form, much the way many european traditions were passed. In the 19th c. traditional weapons were banned, and the shillelagh became a popular replacement – after all, how do you ban tree branches?" CreationDate="2013-05-02T17:37:41.660" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3543" PostId="1759" Score="1" Text="This is, in my opinion, hands down the best answer. &quot;Rape prevention&quot; or &quot;Rape defense&quot; courses need to emphasize a lack of answers – they need to demonstrate that we don't have a one-stop answer, but that we want to encourage an increase in awareness, and offer a means of improving their odds. I went to and assisted in a number of courses before I taught my first; but it wasn't until I had a woman in my class tell me about her experiences that I understood even a little. Any training is about reclaiming power and self-worth, two things many victims feel they've lost." CreationDate="2013-05-02T18:07:47.967" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3544" PostId="1950" Score="1" Text="Nice. Especially about the scaling argument. I'm 5'8&quot; and about 160# when I'm really in shape. I *have* thrown guys who're 6'2&quot; and 200# in hard sparring. And I've knocked them stumbling back with kicks or swept their legs. Sometimes. When it all comes together. Most of the time I'm lucky to escape the counter that's coming: all to often they've handed me my head on a platter." CreationDate="2013-05-03T00:32:55.853" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3545" PostId="1951" Score="1" Text="Thanks for the IRMA, I wasn't aware of a codified version. Great answer. False empowerment is dangerous." CreationDate="2013-05-03T17:29:15.583" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3546" PostId="1951" Score="3" Text="Sorry about the length... It's just such a huge topic to discuss too lightly." CreationDate="2013-05-03T17:30:36.403" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3547" PostId="1942" Score="1" Text="Dynamic flexibility is different; the quick motion of a kick can cause the nervous system to fire and tighten the muscles to prevent flexion (similar to the tightness caused by even a minor car accident)." CreationDate="2013-05-03T17:33:22.527" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3549" PostId="1934" Score="1" Text="I've heard of &quot;heavy&quot; to describe a jab (&quot;XYZ has a heavy jab&quot;), but never of a &quot;heavy jab&quot; (&quot;This technique is the 'Heavy Jab'&quot;). Perhaps a misunderstanding?" CreationDate="2013-05-03T17:39:31.637" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3551" PostId="1951" Score="1" Text="Not at all; I think the length made it possible to say things like &quot;walk in pairs&quot; without being reductionist about the problem." CreationDate="2013-05-03T17:52:03.527" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3553" PostId="1632" Score="2" Text="It's not something you can directly translate one way. Japanese is ideogrammatic - Literally it would be something like &quot;Harmony Energy Way (Subject), said but wasn't original nature is warrior way was to be.&quot; A less literal way to translate is &quot;It goes without saying The Way of Peace is essentially the way of the Warrior.&quot;" CreationDate="2013-05-03T18:42:05.450" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3554" PostId="1850" Score="0" Text="Does anybody have the title of the book from which the translation was drawn? Japanese titles tend to be a little less concise..." CreationDate="2013-05-03T18:44:09.587" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3555" PostId="1753" Score="0" Text="Moving doesn't necessarily mean you can't train in a dojo. Find an art you're interested in, then go and look at google maps for training in the last few locations. If you have time to run or exercise, you can find time to train. If you want to learn a martial art, study it; if you just want to get in shape, you can join a gym!" CreationDate="2013-05-03T19:04:00.890" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3556" PostId="1751" Score="2" Text="Sam Harris is a bit of a doom-and-gloom author; a bit negative. Self defense training is about increasing your odds of survival; on a long enough timeline, survival rates all fall to 0." CreationDate="2013-05-03T19:08:33.053" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3558" PostId="1774" Score="2" Text="Check out &quot;[Muay Thai - The Art of Fighting](http://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/survival/Ruerngsa,%20Yod%20-%20Muay%20Thai%20-%20The%20Art%20of%20Fighting.pdf)&quot; it contains hundreds of descriptions of techniques with photos." CreationDate="2013-02-12T11:47:03.567" UserId="718" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3559" PostId="1937" Score="1" Text="I have edited the question into three questions. (I've dropped the fourth on sexism in aikido until I find a way to make it objective and not an invitation to discussion. I think it is vital, but perhaps a bad fit for SE). Note that some of the comments above were made prior to the edit and may now appear unrelated." CreationDate="2013-05-05T18:02:07.060" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3560" PostId="1955" Score="0" Text="You bring up a good point - just because someone is out cold it doesn't mean their eyes are shut and their body is limp." CreationDate="2013-05-06T01:34:56.797" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3561" PostId="1956" Score="1" Text="yeah, I'm better prepared for next time, and I think overall, I'll be looking for *anything* odd when doing a choke" CreationDate="2013-05-06T01:39:36.377" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3562" PostId="1954" Score="1" Text="Are you asking how to make Kote Hineri work for different body sizes, or are you asking how to accomodate different body sizes in general?" CreationDate="2013-05-06T02:22:49.053" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3563" PostId="1955" Score="0" Text="@KeithNicholas. Indeed. +1 for the question: very good one. -1 for the partner who refuses to tap out on a training beyond the point of no return: I would bet he is a beginner; there is no reason not to tap out. Resisting when the choke is locked is a silly display of ego. He should be made aware of that." CreationDate="2013-05-06T19:00:26.187" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3564" PostId="1955" Score="4" Text="@Lex. Not Necessarily. Some chokes can be rather sneaky whereas others feel much tighter than they really are. I think it's important to really get to know when a choke works and when it doesn't. Ideally you shouldn't get choked out, so as a beginner tap early and often. But it's also important to only tap to correct technique, otherwise your training partners will incorporate bad habits and have false confidence, which can backfire in competitions." CreationDate="2013-05-07T08:35:19.343" UserId="1114" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3566" PostId="416" Score="0" Text="-1 buying a wrist roller before a barbell is morally wrong." CreationDate="2013-05-07T14:19:24.843" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3568" PostId="1610" Score="1" Text="Personal views of chiropractics aside, hip alignment could be a factor. Either way, a podiatrist may be able to prescribe a custom orthotic to help your rather unique situation." CreationDate="2013-05-07T18:46:18.420" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3569" PostId="333" Score="1" Text="Interestingly too, it was *Funakoshi* who also is first credited with writing *Karate* as 空手 (&quot;empty hand&quot;), from the previously common 唐手 (&quot;China/Tang hand&quot;, denoting the connection to the Chinese origins)." CreationDate="2013-05-07T19:16:53.333" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3570" PostId="1955" Score="0" Text="@AyaProgram. I agree 100% with what you just said. Which is why I upvoted the question. However, by the way Keith Nicholas has described the situation I got the feeling that the person was passing out already while refusing to tap out. The person being choked should know when they are about to pass out and tap out before that. But I repeat: what you said is absolutely reasonable. I should thank you for clarifying that." CreationDate="2013-05-07T21:06:51.490" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3573" PostId="1732" Score="0" Text="I've been meaning to post it in my reply for a while now, but the way StackExchange does the posts, it'll take me a while to get the images inline. Where as if I could just copy and paste from the Wordpress... I'll get it post here, eventually!" CreationDate="2013-05-07T23:25:04.203" UserId="398" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3574" PostId="1955" Score="0" Text="@AyaProgram From what he said, he mistook what the choke was and tried to counter it, which just made it tighter, and I think by that time he just didn't have any time left to tap before losing consciousness." CreationDate="2013-05-08T02:05:02.873" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3576" PostId="40" Score="1" Text="Sardathrion, I believe Niten Ichi-ryu does? Miyamoto Musashi was famous for using both hands." CreationDate="2013-05-08T10:29:17.833" UserId="1119" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3577" PostId="1841" Score="0" Text="Good; but was &quot;training while exhausted&quot; ever advised for new techniques in the martial arts? I've only ever heard this approach for a means of removing excess/waste movement from a well understood technique as a means of absorbing the principles. The criticism of crossfit is relevant for Fitness.SE, but is it non-sequiter for MA.SE?" CreationDate="2013-05-08T17:37:01.377" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3578" PostId="1841" Score="1" Text="@stslavik I've seen &quot;train while exhausted&quot; advised at every stage of training both in person and online, by crap teachers and by well-respected ones, so the answer to your first question is Yes. The bar for a &quot;well-mastered&quot; technique is quite high and rarely reached when &quot;train while exhausted&quot; is employed. As for the crossfit reference, it's not a non-sequitor to point out the tendency in both fitness and martial arts to emphasize feeling how hard a workout was versus using a workout as a means towards a goal. If you think rephrasing it could help, please go ahead." CreationDate="2013-05-08T18:02:43.507" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3579" PostId="333" Score="1" Text="@stslavik &quot;Many people incorrectly credit Gichin Funakoshi as the first to write &quot;karate&quot; using [&quot;open hand&quot; kanji]. However, in 1922, his first book, &quot;Ryukyu Kenpo Tode&quot; used the characters 1 and 3 (Chinese hand). There is also evidence that the first black belt certificates Funakoshi gave out in 1924 used the 'toude' characters as well.&quot; &quot;When was this formal change in meaning and kanji made? The earliest known document is Chomo Hanashiro's &quot;Karate Kumite,&quot; first published in August 1905&quot; according to a former instructor of mine: http://www.fightingarts.com/reading/article.php?id=197" CreationDate="2013-05-08T18:09:53.550" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3580" PostId="1841" Score="0" Text="For a specific example of a &quot;training while exhausted&quot; recommendation, see [this answer from Sardathrion](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/1836/347), which inspired this question. It is a classic example, in that the method is recommended as a way to reduce tension in movements. This has been shown to be a poor approach. In particular, one of the hallmarks of well-mastered technique is the absence of unnecessary tension, ergo using the &quot;train while exhausted&quot; technique to reduce tension is *by definition* misguided." CreationDate="2013-05-08T18:19:13.250" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3581" PostId="333" Score="0" Text="Fascinating. Sounds like a lot of resources need updating." CreationDate="2013-05-08T21:27:29.633" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3583" PostId="953" Score="0" Text="Personally I love this question, and I really want to answer it... I just can't even begin to decide where to start. It's a bit like trying to tell someone how long it takes to learn to dance, only *assuming* (but with no actual idea) that they have legs." CreationDate="2013-05-10T00:04:21.650" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3586" PostId="1971" Score="0" Text="Awesome answer. I look forward to reading the sources you reference. Thanks! :)" CreationDate="2013-05-11T17:19:49.303" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3588" PostId="38" Score="0" Text="@stslavik: Are Judo, BJJ, Krav Maga, Kempo Karate and others martial arts, even though they are not traditional martial arts? Yes. As there are blocks, kata, joint locks, throws, weapons training and more in Ninjutsu, of course it qualifies too. The criticism has been regarding if it is a traditional art or not, as extensive proof has not been provided regarding linage etc of the schools. But, you have to remember that a lot was passed down from person to person, there are not written proof for everything." CreationDate="2013-05-14T12:20:50.360" UserId="1034" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3589" PostId="38" Score="0" Text="@Kent http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/197/25 It makes for interesting discussion, but I'm not as sure as I used to be. Some *ryuha* that talk about martial skills also are in some places regarded simply as brigands. I lack the evidence to make a definitive judgment." CreationDate="2013-05-14T21:43:01.420" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3590" PostId="1972" Score="0" Text="It was studying САМБО in the first place that made me consider it. I think improving martial skills is as much a mental exercise as a physical one. I'm all for the &quot;quick&quot; approach of filling your training gaps with specialized training, but going back and understanding how you're really not doing anything different is good too." CreationDate="2013-05-14T21:52:11.700" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3591" PostId="1972" Score="1" Text="@stslavik About &quot;going back&quot;--that's why I recommended getting substantial experience before playing with kata-on-the-back. In my experience most people advocating &quot;do kata from your back&quot; can't grapple and are looking for ways to avoid the hard work of learning to grapple, or feigning expertise in an art they're unfamiliar with by drawing weak parallels. I'm not saying that's the case with you, but I think it's important to keep in mind when giving advice." CreationDate="2013-05-14T23:12:45.630" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3592" PostId="1972" Score="0" Text="Only the last paragraph is meaningful. The rest is opinionated ranting." CreationDate="2013-05-14T23:23:24.037" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3594" PostId="1972" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann May I recommend using headers that reflect this better? I was led astray." CreationDate="2013-05-14T23:30:42.480" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3597" PostId="1972" Score="0" Text="*chuckle* I meant make it more obvious that you are talking about your path, instead of making it more obvious which part of your opinions we should focus on." CreationDate="2013-05-15T02:35:33.873" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3600" PostId="1976" Score="1" Text="Thank you for the book recommendation! I don't think Dave Liepmann is questioning the 'exercises to improve motions or actions' part of the traditional hojo undō definition. It's the 'before 1950s' part he disagrees with (and I with him)." CreationDate="2013-05-16T07:26:15.647" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3601" PostId="1977" Score="0" Text="What? A little more context would be useful." CreationDate="2013-05-16T12:09:49.037" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3602" PostId="1977" Score="2" Text="I'm not sure if people who do Tai-jutsu have a license that can be revoked. I think it's best to report it to the police and let them sort it out." CreationDate="2013-05-16T12:14:48.550" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3603" PostId="1977" Score="2" Text="While we can certainly sympathize with you regarding this, it is an extremely localized and subjective question which is not a good fit for the site. I would speculate that you are also missing detail from the question - people seldom attack without at least some sort of trigger event. In any case local law enforcement should be your first recourse. If you want you can edit and rephrase your question at which point we can consider reopening it." CreationDate="2013-05-16T12:41:25.047" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3604" PostId="1976" Score="0" Text="THelper is right; the issue is with presupposing that traditional methods are more effective at sport-specific training than newer methods. (Furthermore, many if not most martial artists are also in need of general strength &amp; conditioning prior to sport-specific S&amp;C, and do not understand the difference.)" CreationDate="2013-05-16T12:56:00.257" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3605" PostId="1977" Score="0" Text="Stop worrying about &quot;revoking&quot; his &quot;license&quot;; just see if you can track down his teacher and tell that person what happened." CreationDate="2013-05-16T13:37:56.970" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3606" PostId="1976" Score="0" Text="...and the sentences immediately after the one you quoted describe why I think so. I don't mind using nigiri game jars; but they shouldn't be valued higher than modern grip training methods unless the goal is historical reenactment rather than functional martial arts." CreationDate="2013-05-16T15:12:17.687" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3608" PostId="1977" Score="0" Text="Hi Thanks for you`re comments. Yes I may provoked the attack by telling his wife to f@@K off my property as she was having a go at my wife for something stupid. It was very obvious to me he knew what he was doing as he was strangling me he was pushing my adams apple in to my throat, so now it`s very difficult to swallow and I have bruises around my whole neck. Yes I did call the police but that`s was a waste of time . Thanks Again. @Trevoke , @THelper , @slugster , @Dave liepmann" CreationDate="2013-05-16T19:38:53.020" UserId="1129" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3609" PostId="1981" Score="2" Text="Welcome to the site!   Your question is a possible duplicates: [What martial art should I start with?](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/466/what-martial-art-should-i-start-with) and [How to select the right Aikido dojo](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/80/how-to-select-the-right-aikido-dojo/).  Is there anything in those answers that does not answer your question?  If so, edit your question to reflect this." CreationDate="2013-05-20T08:39:39.990" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3610" PostId="1981" Score="0" Text="thanks but do i really need a trainer, can't i do it own my own.I see small kids going to such trainers i dont wanna be with kids practicing martials arts" CreationDate="2013-05-20T08:58:53.667" UserId="1134" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3611" PostId="1981" Score="2" Text="Yes, you do need to go to a dojo/gym/ and learn from there. Otherwise, you will get injuries ranging from minor to server and debilitating and not learn anything of any use.  Depending on your age, you will train as a junior or senior.  This is important as junior classes should be designed so that they enhance and not imped your physical development. Do take care of your body, you only have one." CreationDate="2013-05-20T09:20:22.237" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3612" PostId="1981" Score="1" Text="@munish - Hi, I think the first important question is: &quot;What do I want to train MA for?&quot;. Fitness? Street Defense? Sport? Show off? Be honest with yourself (and with us) and we can perhaps guide you the best of our intentions. Depending on what you want, you don't necessarily need to go to the a MA club at first. There are lots of exercises you can safely practice by yourself." CreationDate="2013-05-20T10:50:58.210" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3613" PostId="1979" Score="1" Text="This looks a lot like a &quot;Would martial artist A beat martial artist B&quot; question which is considered off-topic according to our [FAQ](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/faq)" CreationDate="2013-05-20T11:22:11.387" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3614" PostId="1981" Score="0" Text="I am doing regular exercise daily in the morning(6 km running + jumping + some streching and push ups). Reasons that i would give you why i would like to do this: 1)I belive martial arts gives more control over your body so i will have better mind body coordination with martial arts.It would give me flexibilty along with strength.I dont wanna go to gym and make really big arms and body looking like a heavy weight and being slow with lesser mind body coordination.---Well thats the reson i could give" CreationDate="2013-05-20T11:28:19.713" UserId="1134" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3615" PostId="1981" Score="0" Text="it would be fun also for me learning and practising such a thing along with gaining strength and speed" CreationDate="2013-05-20T11:35:28.253" UserId="1134" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3616" PostId="1980" Score="1" Text="It is important to note that there are elements present on the streets that you will not find on those competitions: bottles being thrown, improvised weapons, concrete, which makes the landing much more violent, friends of your aggressor, 'illegal' moves (face shredding, eye poking, fish-hooks), knives and guns, police, security staff, dogs, broken glass on the ground, etc, etc, etc. Again, the majority of the traditional MAs will not cover this aspect. Moreover, they will not prepare the individual psychologically to face these sort of life and death situation." CreationDate="2013-05-20T12:42:12.020" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3617" PostId="1983" Score="1" Text="Define 'spiritual power'." CreationDate="2013-05-20T12:44:23.933" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3618" PostId="1980" Score="0" Text="@Lex My opening and closing paragraphs made reference to such issues. On the psychological side, martial arts do not (and should not) prepare an individual for murder and so on, but combat sports *do* prepare the trainee for the adrenaline dump of a fight, through competition." CreationDate="2013-05-20T13:40:37.030" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3619" PostId="1979" Score="3" Text="@THelper We decided [in meta](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/266/amend-the-faq-to-allow-for-high-quality-style-comparison-questions) that such questions would only be off-topic if they were low quality. I think that this question uses &quot;champion versus physical specimen&quot; as a concrete example of a broader philosophical question and is therefore both on-topic and constructive." CreationDate="2013-05-20T13:42:15.380" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3620" PostId="1980" Score="0" Text="I agree with everything you said. But a question for you: if there was no other way, would you kill in order to protect yourself or your beloved ones? While I agree that MA should not prepare an individual for murder, if your answer is 'yes', then you (not necessarily the MA itself) should prepare yourself for that. This is why I argue that the psychology (i.e., how one projects their frame of mind) is more important than knowing how to throw a punch, because if your aggressor is really committed, he will have this psychological preparation and you will become a victim." CreationDate="2013-05-20T14:03:10.743" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3621" PostId="1980" Score="0" Text="@Lex I think the fascination many martial artists have with life-or-death situations is twisted and sad. If you want to learn to kill people, or experience life-or-death situations, join the military or get involved in a drug war. I think it's much more healthy to just wrestle or box (taken broadly, encompassing BJJ/judo/kickboxing/etc), thereby developing hand-to-hand fighting skills without the obsession with life-or-death scenarios." CreationDate="2013-05-20T14:14:12.350" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3623" PostId="1980" Score="0" Text="Dave you are now generalizing while missing the full context. 1) Mastering one's own death was the essence of budo. 2) you are probably living somewhere nice and I would guess North America. While not the safest place in the world, it is pretty different from the 3rd world country I come from, so MA has a slightly different context from your usual environment. 3) While joining the military would get you the extra skills, this would be in the interested of their officials, not the individuals. MA and self_defense are two completely separate things, though they do cross over." CreationDate="2013-05-20T15:14:56.643" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3624" PostId="1984" Score="0" Text="@munish my pleasure; any time." CreationDate="2013-05-20T15:33:44.473" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3625" PostId="1985" Score="1" Text="I would suggest that, like most myths, it is based in fact. Magic, religion, spiritualism... These are all primitive methods of explaining experiences we otherwise don't or didn't at one time understand. To this day, people seek to apply order or reason to coincidence due to the superstitious nature of the mind. We like patterns, and when we see or hope to see patterns, and incorrectly give previous action a causal meaning, we have magic. Perhaps we can look at these abilities similar to religions: a source of hope, true or not." CreationDate="2013-05-20T16:35:38.187" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3626" PostId="1279" Score="0" Text="My understanding is the military/police KM has a lot more hostage and counter terrorism training, along with more weapon defenses, along with things like how to fight and properly secure your weapon if an enemy combatant is attempting to take it." CreationDate="2013-05-20T16:48:44.237" UserId="4" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3627" PostId="1985" Score="0" Text="@stslavik I tried to say that with &quot;If choondu marmam is taken out of its mystical context, we could defend it by saying that some people do intimidate their opponents. That's not objectionable, and is quite easily proved. Intimidation is a merely social skill.&quot; Do you see a way to improve my phrasing?" CreationDate="2013-05-20T17:03:27.823" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3628" PostId="1979" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I read the discussion on meta, but that discussion was about &quot;this is my situation, what is good for me&quot;. This question looks like a hypothetical question to me, so as such I don't think it is on topic." CreationDate="2013-05-20T18:02:35.140" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3629" PostId="1982" Score="1" Text="Your second paragraph is strange: my instructors in both sport and non-sport martial arts have talked copiously about how to apply &quot;cheating&quot; techniques, emotional states before and during a fight, and using techniques to outsmart someone (e.g. with weapons of opportunity) in a self-defense scenario." CreationDate="2013-05-20T18:19:45.897" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3630" PostId="1279" Score="0" Text="But it's all KM. Hostage and counter terrorism are concept based, and are pretty independent of the martial art selected. The rest is still KM, but a &quot;civilian&quot; discipline wouldn't choose to include those, as they aren't particularly relevant." CreationDate="2013-05-20T19:52:32.730" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3631" PostId="1404" Score="0" Text="Here is a video of Saito Sensei performing [bokken suburi](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y1iXm89jI0).  You can see the vertical positioning at ~7:15." CreationDate="2013-05-21T03:37:25.553" UserId="33" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3632" PostId="1985" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I don't know whether [THIS](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtXMs7iZsT0) if fake or real. I live in Kerala, may be one day I will see him and I wanted to experience it myself." CreationDate="2013-05-21T05:09:15.220" UserId="1031" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3635" PostId="1982" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann So you are lucky to have instructors that have this level of awareness: I, on another hand, have only met a handful of enlightened ones throughout my MA study." CreationDate="2013-05-21T13:24:58.830" UserId="975" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3641" PostId="1979" Score="2" Text="These are really, really hard questions to answer - in any given fight, you're still talking about two human beings, and human beings make mistakes. One mistake could change everything. Would it be difficult? Yes, but any fight is. I just don't think this is answerable in its current form." CreationDate="2013-05-21T16:49:48.863" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3642" PostId="1985" Score="3" Text="@deepu There is no choondu parmam in that video--only a cult with enormous social pressure to act as if the instructor has magical powers when he waves his hands. No one who isn't a student or doesn't believe in this &quot;magical&quot; choondu parmam would be affected by this instructor's techniques. Be skeptical! If you want to experience it, you will be tricked. If you are willing to see through the trickery, willing to be socially rejected because you don't &quot;believe&quot; in his power, you can test his powers and show them to be fake." CreationDate="2013-05-21T17:18:38.570" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3643" PostId="1985" Score="0" Text="You are using a counter-example to claim that a theory (for lack of a better word) is false. This is inaccurate. You are not trying to disprove &quot;all crows are black&quot;. You are trying to disprove &quot;this crow is black&quot;. Showing a few white crows does nothing to disprove the color of this particular one." CreationDate="2013-05-22T04:10:30.953" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3644" PostId="1844" Score="0" Text="A quick note: meditation (at least the Zen *sotoshu* practiced today by some O-sensei *uchideshi*) is usually not performed in *seiza* but in lotus or cross-legged position, while sitting on a *zabuton*." CreationDate="2013-05-22T06:09:11.353" UserId="494" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3645" PostId="1992" Score="0" Text="Could you outline the exercises briefly here?" CreationDate="2013-05-22T14:31:20.273" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3646" PostId="1992" Score="0" Text="The Wikipedia link I included in my answers has a short paragraph for each. Also, you can hit Youtube and get a billion videos of people showing how these work. There is no need for special equipment (I routinely do this even when I am in hotels on a trip) and really take very little time." CreationDate="2013-05-22T14:47:28.610" UserId="831" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3647" PostId="1992" Score="0" Text="I'm going to copy the Wikipedia text, because it's preferable here to *show* the answer instead of point to an external source that may change or disappear." CreationDate="2013-05-22T14:50:03.793" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3652" PostId="373" Score="0" Text="Aikido strikes are absolutely meant as a strike, only in dojo's it's performed in many cases without the intent to strike the opponent.  Kicks same thing.  Don't confuse the true form with what is being teached in many places.  Take a look at 'real aikido' on youtube, it's balkan-style, very hard.  But I aggree it takes probably double the amount of time to master vs no-nonsense straight up attacking arts like Karate, kick-boxing etc.  Remember, true aikido has plenty in commong with JJ and comes from a guy that killed many people in his life while discovering the path of peace. 'O Sensei" CreationDate="2013-05-22T16:37:50.130" UserId="775" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3653" PostId="1996" Score="3" Text="Very, very good answer." CreationDate="2013-05-22T18:28:14.970" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3654" PostId="1934" Score="0" Text="Any word on this?" CreationDate="2013-05-22T21:32:01.343" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3657" PostId="2000" Score="2" Text="Thanks for your answer, but it strikes me that the question was how to decide which throw(s) to practice [see the title], not which throws to use in randori/comp and/or how to use them ... see what I mean?" CreationDate="2013-05-23T13:29:06.603" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3658" PostId="1999" Score="1" Text="Does anything beyond &quot;sensei power&quot; stop uke from merely unlocking his elbows?" CreationDate="2013-05-23T17:51:56.693" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3659" PostId="1999" Score="0" Text="If nage turns wrists inward and upwards, then if uke unlocks the elbows, uke is unable to exert any force on nage.  To unlock the elbows, uke has to disengage from nage, which nullifies the attack.  (The goal is to nullify the attack, not to complete the throw.)  I'm struggling to write that more clearly - I'm not sure that explanation passes muster.  I can no longer get into seiza, but perhaps I can persuade a classmate to work with it this weekend, and perhaps I'll find a clearer way to explain it." CreationDate="2013-05-23T18:06:43.500" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3660" PostId="1999" Score="0" Text="Upvoting @DaveLiepmann's question, because I think it is insightful.  This is an interesting discussion because we're polarized, and I appreciate the effort to narrow the discussion to a very pragmatic, answerable question." CreationDate="2013-05-23T18:09:04.950" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3662" PostId="1999" Score="0" Text="I don't dispute that turning the wrists inward and upwards is an effective way to counter a double wrist grab; that's a universal technique. But why all this stuff after that move? Why pretend that uke is going to stand up and do a forward roll? In what universe would uke not just lose their grip instead of taking ukemi? *That's* the part that makes me dubious about the usefulness of the practice: there's no control during the part of the technique where impressive things happen; it's entirely due to assuming uke will cooperate or act drunk." CreationDate="2013-05-23T18:17:35.113" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3663" PostId="1999" Score="1" Text="I'm not sure whether you replied before I finished my edit.  These are koryu, which means they aren't done to be pragmatic. (The pragmatic stuff is in the junana hon kata).(overstating for simplicity).  Most koryu techniques make... contrived assumptions about ukes attack and intent, and if the uke isn't trained to actually follow that script, you get the phenomenon you described &quot;jump for sensei&quot;.  Koryu is like a sonnet. Sonnets are written within narrow, artificial guidelines, not for pure pragmatism. Koryu are designed to teach concepts, not pragmatism. (IMHO)" CreationDate="2013-05-23T18:24:52.170" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3664" PostId="1999" Score="0" Text="That's a helpful distinction. Would it be correct for me to rephrase that as, &quot;this is a *demonstration* using ryoto mochi sukui nage kata to demonstrate a concept, not a technique meant to be used as shown or be interpreted as an effective combat technique&quot;?" CreationDate="2013-05-23T18:29:37.567" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3665" PostId="1999" Score="0" Text="Probably - that is my understanding. My only reservation is it makes it sound like I know what I'm talking about, and that's always dangerous." CreationDate="2013-05-23T18:52:55.873" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3666" PostId="1975" Score="0" Text="Excellent and to the point." CreationDate="2013-05-23T21:33:34.477" UserId="424" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3668" PostId="2000" Score="0" Text="It is really hard to force a throw on someone.  It is easy to adapt a throw to someone giving you the right move." CreationDate="2013-05-24T06:31:09.913" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3669" PostId="2000" Score="2" Text="Very true, but that's still not an answer to the question asked." CreationDate="2013-05-24T11:54:57.283" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3670" PostId="2001" Score="1" Text="Thanks very much.  I also found [this blog post](http://thedifficultway.blogspot.co.uk/2011/01/tokuiwaza.html) which supplemented your reply nicely. :)" CreationDate="2013-05-24T12:01:26.040" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3671" PostId="2000" Score="0" Text="Clearly you are not getting it thus I am not explaining myself clearly enough.  I am sorry, does the edit make things less confused?" CreationDate="2013-05-24T13:09:04.463" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3672" PostId="2000" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion The disconnect here is between your advice--&quot;do what is appropriate for the situation&quot;, relating to choosing a throw for a particular randori/shiai situation--and the question, &quot;how do I know which technique to focus one's practice time on&quot; The best judoka pick one or two three throws as their favored technique (*tokuiwaza*) and make it into an apply-from-any-movement-and-many-setups beast. Of course they'll be opportunists for other techniques when the time is right, but a judoka without a single power throw chosen from the *o-waza* is always going to be second-rate." CreationDate="2013-05-24T13:23:36.613" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3673" PostId="2000" Score="0" Text="Right, in that case, I cannot see any reasons to pick one technique over another." CreationDate="2013-05-24T13:47:39.593" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3674" PostId="2003" Score="2" Text="Welcome to the site! Please take a moment to look at our [FAQ](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/faq).  This question is very narrowly focused in both time and location, making it difficult to answer and for helping others.  If you can edit it so that it is a little broader (e.g., more about what you are looking for and more detail about the styles you are considering) then it can be easily reopened." CreationDate="2013-05-26T20:59:51.190" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3675" PostId="2003" Score="0" Text="Sorry! Should have read the FAQ better. Made some changes, and added more details. Hope it is not still too localized." CreationDate="2013-05-26T22:33:33.690" UserId="1146" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3677" PostId="2003" Score="0" Text="Ok, removed most of the questions." CreationDate="2013-05-27T09:05:18.237" UserId="1146" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3679" PostId="1997" Score="0" Text="Hi, and welcome to the site. While this is all definitely very interesting, it doesn't exactly pertain to the question asked. Perhaps you could tell us how this answers the question regarding documentation of the newaza of Fusen-ryu?" CreationDate="2013-05-28T17:18:40.607" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3680" PostId="2004" Score="0" Text="Wushu is sometimes promoted like it represents everything that is Chinese martial art, and said to draw from styles like Hung Gar. But it sounds like there is no such thing like a complete Hung Gar form available within the Wushu curriculum? Then, what are the best sources for Hung Gar?" CreationDate="2013-05-28T21:50:06.987" UserId="1146" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3681" PostId="1980" Score="1" Text="Thank you Dave! You understood my intention correctly. The evidence is informative. What I had in mind was the two person fighting without weapon. I think @Lex had a point that psychology matters and perhaps unexpected human potentials can be unleashed in life-or-death situations." CreationDate="2013-05-29T01:53:23.890" UserId="1133" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3682" PostId="2004" Score="1" Text="find a school that fights in *full contact* lei tai and/or sanda matches (and not those silly point sparring and &quot;medium contact&quot; tournaments, either.) stick with the full contact fighters, those schools have better kung fu." CreationDate="2013-05-29T02:07:24.807" UserId="1153" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3683" PostId="195" Score="0" Text="I'll throw this in here since it doesn't directly pertain to the presented question, but the background of the question: the two best responses to someone who uses the side kick for maintaining distance control, IMO, are the parry (as already discussed, though there are several variations on this) and the fake.  For you, you'd throw a jab (fully commit, but realize you're going to hit air) while throwing a stutter step, wait for the side kick to thrust, then follow the retraction back to your opponent, following up the initial jab with whatever makes you happy." CreationDate="2013-05-29T16:22:10.770" UserId="338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3685" PostId="1521" Score="0" Text="More so, I'd dare say, and obviously so. You risk getting kicked in the head when you play Soccer; it's more of a given in kick boxing. Can the risks be minimized? Yes. But they are inherent to the activity." CreationDate="2013-05-30T17:35:20.547" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3686" PostId="214" Score="0" Text="Only thing I'd add to this is dance. Dance is all about movement and maintaining stability. Ballet is an *excellent* means of practicing fluidity of movement at various speeds." CreationDate="2013-05-30T17:38:03.450" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3687" PostId="2008" Score="2" Text="This is a little hard to answer definitively, even if we treat `hard` as synonymous with `serious` or `very frequent`. There can be a whole range of reasons why someone's muscles are tightening up - the way the question is worded most answers will be speculation, which is not a type of question that is encouraged." CreationDate="2013-06-04T08:43:35.263" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3689" PostId="2008" Score="1" Text="I like the question, but I agree that it could be worded in a less-speculative way." CreationDate="2013-06-04T19:19:33.540" UserId="33" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3690" PostId="2008" Score="1" Text="I don't speak for anyone else, but I get grumpy and ted to insomnia when I'm not getting my exercise." CreationDate="2013-06-05T19:13:56.130" UserId="210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3693" PostId="2017" Score="0" Text="[Does these images help?](http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Tensho+kata&amp;tbm=isch&amp;tbo=u&amp;source=univ&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=TaKwUcrkFvGK4gT-_IGwDw&amp;ved=0CFgQsAQ&amp;biw=1918&amp;bih=971#imgrc=_)..." CreationDate="2013-06-06T14:54:03.453" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3695" PostId="1980" Score="2" Text="Another great Example is Kaoklai Kaennorsing who at ~170lbs competed in the K-1 Grand Prix multiple times, which is an openweight tournament, and defeated opponents up to 100lbs heavier than he was. If at the highest levels such feats are possible, that should definitely answer how a well trained fighter might fare against an untrained albeit more physical individual." CreationDate="2013-06-06T15:39:15.807" UserId="1114" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3696" PostId="2017" Score="0" Text="Yes. In reference to karate. Added the tag. Thanks." CreationDate="2013-06-06T19:19:40.977" UserId="962" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3697" PostId="2017" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion, thanks for the link. I did search Google with no success. My error in not searching GI first. This link led to several diagrams/images of Tensho. Submit as an answer and I will accept. Thx." CreationDate="2013-06-06T19:48:46.420" UserId="962" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3698" PostId="2019" Score="0" Text="May I suggest a bigger version of this image: http://www.kyokushinkan-australia.com/uploads/1/8/0/0/18009363/5367939_orig.jpg" CreationDate="2013-06-06T22:54:39.337" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3699" PostId="2017" Score="0" Text="You are welcome but I shall not write an answer as some prior research is a prerequisite of the site." CreationDate="2013-06-07T07:50:00.633" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3700" PostId="2017" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion I believe I see your logic. +1 for sticking so fiercely to &quot;the code&quot;. :) Some may contend that the statement in the question details &quot;There are some videos available&quot; would imply previous research and discovery. However, I can see the need for some improvement to those details to assure the prerequisites were met. Hopefully this latest edit allows you to post your answer." CreationDate="2013-06-07T13:30:32.577" UserId="962" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3701" PostId="2017" Score="0" Text="Don't get me wrong, I did not downvote because the question is valid -- even more so since you added lots of information to it!  It has a very useful answer (yours) and will be great for future readers so really, I should upvote it all and shut up.  ^_~  Done on both counts." CreationDate="2013-06-07T13:56:34.767" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3703" PostId="2020" Score="3" Text="This varies school-to-school, but what I've seen is that your next promotion goes to blue." CreationDate="2013-06-07T14:14:48.240" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3704" PostId="1757" Score="0" Text="Some interesting related discussion in [this thread](http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=121000)." CreationDate="2013-06-07T22:10:31.490" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3705" PostId="2024" Score="1" Text="Although these video clips are not the diagrams and text descriptions sought for in the question, I believe these are invaluable resources for anyone studying the Tensho kata. Too bad we do not have video of all the masters and their kata. Love the two-person drill video. Amazing how much knowledge is encapsulated in this form. Thx." CreationDate="2013-06-08T21:45:19.310" UserId="962" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3706" PostId="2024" Score="1" Text="Also difficult to document ibuki on paper." CreationDate="2013-06-08T21:47:10.283" UserId="962" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3707" PostId="2014" Score="0" Text="Well, there is enough scientific prove to most of the facts you have stated, to make this a good answer." CreationDate="2013-06-11T14:52:16.463" UserId="1019" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3708" PostId="2021" Score="2" Text="I literally could not believe how gassed I was after 1 or 2 rolls when I started BJJ too. I don't think there's really any regular exercise the average person does at the gym or on team sports that prepares them for the type of strain you put on your cardio during grappling." CreationDate="2013-06-11T17:30:07.613" UserId="1076" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3709" PostId="701" Score="0" Text="Perhaps this answer could be improved with some insight from an ITF instructor and a more thorough comparison from the perspective of hyungs?" CreationDate="2013-06-12T09:28:42.093" UserId="754" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3710" PostId="2025" Score="0" Text="I think you are right. This is what my instructor, and a few other guys I roll with told me. Since I don't know much technique right now, I tend to try to muscle out of situations when I don't know what else to do. I'm finding if I just stay calm, and think a bit more then I get gassed less. Also, if I can't think of a way to get out, or how to overcome my partner I'll just let them take advantage, and ask for technical guidance." CreationDate="2013-06-12T17:30:19.773" UserId="1171" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3711" PostId="2027" Score="3" Text="Hi, welcome to Martial Arts.SE. On this site we encourage questions that produce factual and definitive answers - we try to avoid questions that lead to lists, extended discussion, or answers based purely on opinion. I've rephrased your question title to fit with that objective." CreationDate="2013-06-17T06:54:40.317" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3713" PostId="2032" Score="0" Text="I think you miss a few words in your last sentence." CreationDate="2013-06-18T09:13:55.070" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3714" PostId="2027" Score="0" Text="Are you talking about risk in terms of injuries or in terms of losing position and getting submitted yourself? Also, if you are only 7 weeks in, I wouldn't worry too much about learning all the different submissions, your instructor will show you these techniques soon enough. Try to concentrate on positioning for the first few months, submission will then come a lot easier with time." CreationDate="2013-06-18T11:12:25.950" UserId="1114" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3715" PostId="2028" Score="0" Text="Can you rule out, that your technique isn't hindering your ability to generate power with your hips? I feel that with the right technique you should be able to generate a lot of power out of your hips, even if your muscles were underdeveloped." CreationDate="2013-06-18T11:19:02.293" UserId="1114" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3716" PostId="2028" Score="0" Text="Could be a problem too" CreationDate="2013-06-18T11:40:12.833" UserId="1019" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3717" PostId="2034" Score="2" Text="Welcome to the site!  This contains one good question (+1) and one terrible one (-1).  The former is the the first sentence. The latter is the second one referring to effectiveness.  That question solicit arguments, cannot be answered objectively, and solicit a list classification. All those are frowned upon -- see the [FAQ](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help/asking)." CreationDate="2013-06-18T11:41:31.550" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3718" PostId="2034" Score="1" Text="In addition, a quick [Google search](http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=bourn+martial+art&amp;oq=bourn+martial+art&amp;sugexp=chrome,mod=11&amp;sourceid=chrome&amp;ie=UTF-8) will give you the answer..." CreationDate="2013-06-18T11:43:34.883" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3719" PostId="2034" Score="2" Text="Just a note - The google search that Sard references is what they used for the movies, so that is the Hollywood interpretation. The books were written long before the movies, so that may or may not be what you were looking for." CreationDate="2013-06-18T14:51:57.557" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3720" PostId="2035" Score="0" Text="Number 3 is hard when my muscles are so fatigued I can barely grip a gi, or try to stand and break out of full guard. I'm eventually so tired I can't do anything but try to fend off submissions, which doesn't last too long when I'm gassed. When I'm not gassed I'm much better, but once I gas I'm pretty worthless." CreationDate="2013-06-18T20:35:10.227" UserId="1171" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3721" PostId="2031" Score="1" Text="Is there a way of getting in touch with you, or a website, or something? :)" CreationDate="2013-06-18T22:00:02.937" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3722" PostId="2027" Score="0" Text="By safety I mean both, in not getting countered and put into a submission on me and not getting physically hurt." CreationDate="2013-06-19T00:46:31.577" UserId="1168" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3723" PostId="2032" Score="0" Text="Thanks, i am not sure what happened there. I finished the sentence, although not in a very interesting way." CreationDate="2013-06-19T02:48:04.243" UserId="1182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3724" PostId="2034" Score="0" Text="@JohnP: Indeed it is but that's what the question is asking." CreationDate="2013-06-19T08:37:24.880" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3725" PostId="2034" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion - Could be interpreted either way, was just clarifying." CreationDate="2013-06-19T14:23:06.080" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3726" PostId="2034" Score="0" Text="I read the first three books years ago. I don't remember any reference to a particular style and the movies differ strongly from the books (disappointingly so in my opinion, good action movies but would still have like to see the original book stories)." CreationDate="2013-06-20T23:32:09.467" UserId="179" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3727" PostId="2039" Score="0" Text="My understanding is that hip power for punching comes from the glutes, which are worked plenty by squats and deadlifts. And the fact that they increased punching speed in 10 minutes shows that there was no increase in strength or power due to the workout, but rather that the machine merely provided a warm-up. The examples clearly show the students employing a hip turn in their second try, but that's a technique issue, not strength." CreationDate="2013-06-21T18:08:50.407" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3728" PostId="1651" Score="1" Text="If you strike with your forefinger and middle finger, you are not doing the vertical punch correctly. As for striking the head, there are two reasons for it's usefulness. 1 the flick of the wrist i mentioned in my post causes a painful jerk and whiplash in the neck instead of pushing their entire body back. 2 unless you have time to land a heavy strike 「which will not always not knock someone out」 you are better of with 4 strikes to the bridge or temple causing serious disorientation in half the time it takes to land a heavy blow." CreationDate="2013-06-24T16:06:03.363" UserId="1198" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3729" PostId="1651" Score="0" Text="@曾気青昭雄 I don't believe the claim that one can land 4 strikes faster than one heavy strike, unless you're comparing a jab to a looping overhand right or similar. And I don't know what you mean about the forefinger/middle finger knuckles: that is correct per Isshinryu's vertical punch." CreationDate="2013-06-24T16:22:19.397" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3730" PostId="2051" Score="3" Text="I think unless you are proficient in another MA or combat sport there is no way you can learn Krav Maga from books and DvDs only. Even if you are a black belt in another system you still need somebody for drill the technics" CreationDate="2013-06-24T18:42:02.180" UserId="412" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3731" PostId="1651" Score="0" Text="Well you can hit harder with the knuckles i said. Using two knuckles to hit someone in the head will break your knuckles.&#xA;Hitting them with 6 knuckles and a flatter surface will not damage your hand." CreationDate="2013-06-24T20:40:43.180" UserId="1198" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3732" PostId="1651" Score="0" Text="@曾気青昭雄 I'm not sure what you're advocating. Hitting someone in the head with a closed fist has been shown repeatedly to be a major risk for breaking the hand regardless of which knuckles are the striking surface. [Boxer's fracture](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxer's_fracture) is in fact most commonly of the 4th or 5th knuckle, not the 2nd or 3rd." CreationDate="2013-06-24T20:44:33.153" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3733" PostId="1651" Score="0" Text="Boxers break those knuckles because they do not strengthen them. It does make a huge different hitting with 6 joints and a flat surface, the impact it dispersed over a large area. I have never even slightly injured my hand with a sun fist even on head strike 「and i am mainly for wing chun so my boxing punch is not strong as my sun fist」  the one time i fought boxing style and made contact, i broke 2 knuckles." CreationDate="2013-06-24T22:59:38.410" UserId="1198" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3744" PostId="2056" Score="1" Text="Welcome to the site!  Why not join a historical martial art club or Aikido or a shooting club or ... There are lots of different weapons to chose from and without narrowing down the field a little, your question will be closed as too localised and asking for a list." CreationDate="2013-06-26T16:35:05.830" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3745" PostId="2056" Score="0" Text="Edited the question to remove list aspect. This is a fine question." CreationDate="2013-06-26T16:41:47.823" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3747" PostId="1942" Score="0" Text="There's something wrong there. You might want to go see a physiotherapist." CreationDate="2013-06-27T09:00:32.843" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3748" PostId="2058" Score="0" Text="Do I really need to cite myself? I am a Taekwondo instructor and have also practiced Jeet Kune Do and plain old vanilla Greco-Roman wrestling. I have spent enough time studying martial arts to know what I am talking about." CreationDate="2013-06-27T10:37:42.947" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3751" PostId="2058" Score="4" Text="Your viewpoint is diametrically opposed to some of my experience, hence the request for citations. You make some assertions which need context and/or references; i.e. you need to include that it is your opinion or experience. You've also neglected to answer an important part of the question - has it been scientifically investigated? Any answer that dismisses something that is the basis of a 3000 year old medical practice and is at the root of several of the more ancient arts needs to include references to studies and established sources." CreationDate="2013-06-27T12:10:37.317" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3752" PostId="2058" Score="4" Text="+1.  Yeah, it does lack source. How can you prove that something does not exist?  All you can do is test practitioners's claims of using spiritual energy.  **Every scientific experiment ever done** to investigate magic, psicics, faith healers, homoeopathy, or any other mythical spiritual power **always yielded negative results**." CreationDate="2013-06-27T12:51:39.327" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3753" PostId="2058" Score="3" Text="I hold a senior degree in an actual martial art, surely my view is a little more grave than simply &quot;opinion&quot;. And to answer the other objection: the Nazi's studied the existence of chi, or &quot;vril&quot; as the called it, without success. This is not an argument from nazi, I am simply pointing out that some of the most brilliant scientists of the 20th century DID in fact study it and found that it didn't exist." CreationDate="2013-06-27T13:18:42.377" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3754" PostId="2058" Score="8" Text="@slugster So, people need references when they disagree with you, but not when they agree with you? And what references, exactly, would be appropriate here? If you want references, **post your own answer with them**. Note that the burden of proof is on the person claiming that extremely unlikely magical powers exist, not on the person giving an Occam's razor style more plausible explanation." CreationDate="2013-06-27T14:28:42.267" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3755" PostId="2062" Score="1" Text="This answer is extremely valuable. Thank you." CreationDate="2013-06-27T14:29:55.570" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3756" PostId="2063" Score="0" Text="Is weapon training part after some time/graduation, or do you start from the beginning to include weapons?" CreationDate="2013-06-27T16:33:13.647" UserId="1204" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3758" PostId="2067" Score="0" Text="so, that's why you are wearing the `helmet`! :)&#xA;&quot;pressure points of spiritual energy&quot; yes, but how do they spiritually give pressure to that points?" CreationDate="2013-06-28T08:21:16.030" UserId="1031" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3759" PostId="2067" Score="2" Text="They don't. It's a farce." CreationDate="2013-06-28T08:30:08.217" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3760" PostId="2063" Score="0" Text="You start staff and [if you want to, fan] right away. There is a class solely for teaching straight sword, but you have to be in main class for a month before you can join. Other weapons are after each grading." CreationDate="2013-06-28T10:22:42.297" UserId="1198" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3761" PostId="2058" Score="5" Text="Juann I'm aware of the studies and their results, I'm simply encouraging you to cite them and include excerpts where possible or relevant. As you will know we also discourage extended discussion via the comments, if you want to continue I've created a chat room for it: http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/9438/qi-power Alternatively you could seek clarification via the [MA Meta site](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/)." CreationDate="2013-06-28T10:59:55.907" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3762" PostId="2058" Score="3" Text="@DaveLiepmann You absolutely don't need references simply to disagree with me, not at all. Regardless of my opinion on the subject the answer is low in quality - it makes some bold assertions and offers nothing to validate those assertions (there is no indication of Juann's level of skill and/or experience except in the comments). I am simply encouraging him to improve his answer, especially as it is the marked answer. The post notice that I added fits this scenario perfectly, especially as it is a contentious subject." CreationDate="2013-06-28T11:05:29.130" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3766" PostId="2047" Score="0" Text="i have a doubt @Juann because you have said that `but in the end they would win on points`.Thats fine about getting points in a competition but what about when you come across a real fight where points won't matter.No body is looking for points in a street fight and you would win in those situations.:)" CreationDate="2013-07-01T08:41:28.540" UserId="1134" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3769" PostId="2073" Score="2" Text="I suggest narrowing your question down to a specific one. You are asking for a lot of information in this question." CreationDate="2013-07-03T17:36:35.647" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3770" PostId="2073" Score="2" Text="The question is large in scope and could do with being broken down into several.  However, it is a nice question! +1" CreationDate="2013-07-04T06:41:49.007" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3771" PostId="2075" Score="0" Text="Generally list questions are thrown upon on stackexchange. see the FAQ." CreationDate="2013-07-05T11:16:06.530" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3774" PostId="2075" Score="0" Text="Really? but on SO some of the top questions/answers end up being collaboratively created lists with input from several experts... (i.e. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3577641/how-do-you-parse-and-process-html-xml-in-php or http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1673841/examples-of-gof-design-patterns or http://stackoverflow.com/questions/388242/the-definitive-c-book-guide-and-list)  maybe it is better for wiki style though" CreationDate="2013-07-05T14:45:38.817" UserId="1213" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3776" PostId="2074" Score="1" Text="That is probably the most accurate way of looking at it in the context of martial arts." CreationDate="2013-07-05T14:51:35.597" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3777" PostId="2073" Score="0" Text="Split into: http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/2076/when-was-the-southern-shaolin-temple-destroyed and &#xA;http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/2075/what-kung-fu-styles-originated-from-southern-shaolin" CreationDate="2013-07-05T15:01:58.893" UserId="1213" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3778" PostId="2075" Score="1" Text="Does this question have a narrow and limited enough of a scope to produce a reasonably definitive and authoritative answer? The purpose of asking and answering questions on Stack Exchange is for _specific_ questions, but I see this one as being too large to answer. We should not be trying to emulate general-purpose information listings like Wikipedia. Those questions on SO are old ones and have historical significance behind their existence." CreationDate="2013-07-05T15:23:09.543" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3779" PostId="2075" Score="0" Text="Well it should be narrow... I'm not asking for a compendium of all Martial Arts who were slightly influenced by Southern Shaolin (that would obviously be impossible to conclude), if anything I was hoping for many little answers not a single one... &#xA;&#xA;As in &quot;I've trained in X for Y years and we trace our lineage to Z which developed under one of the alleged five elders/ancestors from Southern Shaolin&quot;" CreationDate="2013-07-05T15:27:47.070" UserId="1213" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3781" PostId="294" Score="0" Text="As an alternative to rock climbing: practice windsurfing." CreationDate="2013-07-05T15:51:31.027" UserId="412" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3784" PostId="408" Score="2" Text="Is it not dangerous for the back, knees or shoulders to jogging with weight in the hand?" CreationDate="2013-07-05T16:20:31.917" UserId="412" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3785" PostId="297" Score="0" Text="In rock climbing some guy do (one) fingers pull-up as workout. I still wonder if it is dangerous for the fingers." CreationDate="2013-07-05T16:21:59.203" UserId="412" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3786" PostId="2083" Score="1" Text="Welcome to Martial Arts! Could you please use punctuation and formatting to make your (future) answers more readable?" CreationDate="2013-07-07T08:34:18.723" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3787" PostId="2083" Score="7" Text="You've provided some interesting information, but I disagree when you say that Kalaripayattu &quot;is considered to be the deadliest martial art in the world&quot;. Considered by whom? Probably not by everyone. Also, there are many martial arts that do not focus on developing 6 pack abs." CreationDate="2013-07-07T08:35:51.793" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3788" PostId="2073" Score="1" Text="I had no idea there was more than the Henan temple, but I do see five mentioned [here](http://www.kung-fu-fitness-and-defence.com/kung-fu-shaolin-martial-arts.html)." CreationDate="2013-07-05T14:21:23.277" UserDisplayName="user1217" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3789" PostId="2085" Score="1" Text="Would +1 for the first 3 paragraphs, but mount does score points, starting at 10 seconds. The only locks that are allowed are those that attack the elbow. Shoulder locks are only allowed if they could reasonably be seen as (or cannot be distinguished from) elbow locks, such as in the case of some forms of *ude garami*." CreationDate="2013-07-07T20:09:16.610" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3791" PostId="2084" Score="2" Text="Too bad this is limited to boxing, usually I use my legs against the stronger heavier opponent." CreationDate="2013-07-08T08:29:12.113" UserId="108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3792" PostId="2075" Score="0" Text="In the case of lots of small answer, there cannot be a definitive answer.  So, you are asking for list of things ranked by popularity.  This is frowned up, see the FAQ." CreationDate="2013-07-08T10:23:09.020" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3793" PostId="2084" Score="0" Text="@Reno i would too when kicks are allowed. Not many people have muscular back-of-knees. Alan it is always better to fight someone stronger than you!" CreationDate="2013-07-08T10:25:09.907" UserId="1198" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3794" PostId="2088" Score="0" Text="Interesting, I'll look at striking to non-conventional targets. That said, this is with 14oz boxing gloves, so there isn't a lot of bone on bone contact." CreationDate="2013-07-08T15:13:27.010" UserId="4" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3795" PostId="2084" Score="0" Text="Yep, this is specific to &quot;hands only sparring.&quot; Kicking is probably the best part of my striking game, but when it's not a allowed, I need to come up with other viable techniques." CreationDate="2013-07-08T15:20:21.207" UserId="4" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3796" PostId="2089" Score="0" Text="Thanks! I'll try to work on sticking and moving, and try the uppercut, hook to circle out." CreationDate="2013-07-08T15:22:18.120" UserId="4" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3797" PostId="2088" Score="0" Text="Well you could still do it, but it will take a bit longer and bit harder to get the target. Cant you throw in some elbow strikes?" CreationDate="2013-07-08T23:54:48.620" UserId="1198" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3798" PostId="2088" Score="1" Text="Hah. Unfortunately not. While we learn quite a bit of elbow strikes, and headbutts, we don't do them in sparring, because the risk of injury is too high." CreationDate="2013-07-09T00:59:56.907" UserId="4" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3799" PostId="2083" Score="3" Text="@THelper every martial art is considered to be the deadliest martial art in the world. Either we ban this sentence entirely from the site or we allow it and let it slide. I don't think this is a very valuable argument to have, in any case." CreationDate="2013-07-09T12:34:21.163" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3800" PostId="1761" Score="1" Text="I didn't go into the detail but it's look like there is tournament with judge for military http://www.jspace.com/news/articles/elite-soldiers-compete-in-idf-s-first-ever-krav-maga-tournament-video/14166. Hope they will do something like this for civilian also." CreationDate="2013-07-10T17:20:48.667" UserId="412" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3805" PostId="2098" Score="1" Text="+1 - #3 is going to be hard for them to avoid :)" CreationDate="2013-07-13T12:49:46.923" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3806" PostId="2098" Score="0" Text="@slugster I don't agree with that at all; many college MA or MMA or karate or judo or BJJ clubs end up being quite solid for those students who come in regularly." CreationDate="2013-07-13T14:27:21.150" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3807" PostId="2083" Score="1" Text="Marma-kala is the 5th stage." CreationDate="2013-07-16T08:15:34.570" UserId="108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3808" PostId="2104" Score="0" Text="Can you comment on the approximate weight of the stick(s)? Are these escrima sticks? In [one](http://www.thekkottil.com/pradeep/kalari.html) of the styles I practice, hot oil massages were used on joints. I had similar problems with the `Otta` but it went away with these massages." CreationDate="2013-07-16T09:18:06.013" UserId="108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3810" PostId="2103" Score="1" Text="This question appears to be off-topic because it is about entertainment and pop culture rather than about [martial arts](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic). I'm not convinced that this question would be a good fit for this site for other expert martial artists." CreationDate="2013-07-16T11:19:49.617" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3811" PostId="2103" Score="4" Text="The history of fake wrestling is intertwined with real wrestling and challenge matches, both of which are quite a part of martial arts." CreationDate="2013-07-16T13:33:15.810" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3812" PostId="2104" Score="0" Text="Not sure of the exact weight, but I believe they are made of oak and thus on the heavier end of the short stick spectrum." CreationDate="2013-07-16T15:39:37.860" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3813" PostId="2108" Score="1" Text="What style did you study?" CreationDate="2013-07-16T19:47:54.433" UserId="1198" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3814" PostId="2108" Score="0" Text="Wing-Tsun Kung-Fu" CreationDate="2013-07-16T20:06:20.250" UserId="1246" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3815" PostId="2103" Score="1" Text="When the WWE and WCW started with their big advertising campaigns." CreationDate="2013-07-17T09:09:51.273" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3816" PostId="2103" Score="0" Text="It used to be big in europe, the expansion of the wwf destroyed territories worldwide. Japan and Mexico hung onto theirs." CreationDate="2013-07-17T10:09:00.190" UserId="1104" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3817" PostId="2103" Score="0" Text="@Kristian82 In Europe? I don't mean the Greco Roman Wrestling or classical wrestling in general. Could you send me some link where I can see people in masks and in custom made costumes pretending to fight on the European teritory? I guess if you find something it would be something very minor or practicesed on a very small scale." CreationDate="2013-07-17T10:19:57.353" UserId="1243" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3818" PostId="2106" Score="0" Text="Welcome to Martial Arts! I'm no expert on kempo karate, but doesn't the order in which you learn differ for each dojo?" CreationDate="2013-07-17T14:17:23.340" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3819" PostId="2106" Score="0" Text="I thought about that. But I've noticed the order is usually similar in kempo Karate, and even the foot movement. Only thing that's different (As far as combination and forms) is the block or punch type." CreationDate="2013-07-17T14:29:23.377" UserId="1244" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3820" PostId="2110" Score="0" Text="Thanks for your answer, it's encouraging. I only know the Siu Lim Tao and Chum Kiu forms, but I know applications from Biu Jee and Muk Yan Chong, and I know a bit of Chi Sau too. Doing the Siu Lim Tao on one leg sounds very interesting, I'll give it a try. :)" CreationDate="2013-07-17T15:03:59.320" UserId="1246" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3821" PostId="2103" Score="1" Text="Neither did I, fake wrestling existed throughout europe for years. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_wrestling_in_the_United_Kingdom The masks are mainly a mexican and japanese thing anyway" CreationDate="2013-07-18T13:13:18.873" UserId="1104" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3822" PostId="965" Score="0" Text="There's an example at approximately 0:33 [of this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iD_gA0JMKA&amp;feature=player_embedded)." CreationDate="2012-05-29T15:31:56.740" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3823" PostId="965" Score="0" Text="That looks more like a Diagonal Flying application to me, though I see how it could be applied to Single Whip. 1:20-1:30 of your video is definitely Single Whip, though." CreationDate="2012-05-29T15:53:45.723" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3824" PostId="2103" Score="1" Text="The NWA (National Wrestling Alliance) was founded in 1948. During the early years it was the de facto governing body for professional wrestling." CreationDate="2013-07-18T18:31:31.430" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3825" PostId="2025" Score="0" Text="@ChristopherPerry I'm in about the same position.  I started about a month ago, and I tire fast. But I'm improving slowly by doing it, and I think getting in a last roll even after I'm exhausted helps me improve faster (even if it is less practice for my opponent since I'm not much better than practice dummy by then.)" CreationDate="2013-07-18T22:17:57.653" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3826" PostId="2115" Score="4" Text="You really should not trust utter strangers with your heath.  Instead go and see a doctor that specializes in sport injuries.  Oh and anecdotal evidence is no evidence at all..." CreationDate="2013-07-21T14:46:14.933" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3829" PostId="1895" Score="0" Text="Wow, that's a load of misinformation here. No, adrenalin doesn't trigger freeze, certainly not on everyone. I have personnally experienced how years of training can actually kick in so fast that you sometimes have to stop afterwards and think to gather everything that happened." CreationDate="2013-07-23T22:25:10.860" UserId="941" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3831" PostId="2107" Score="1" Text="correct me if I'm wrong, all exercises you mention leave the hand relative static in regards to the lower arm. with stick fighting however, a lot of action is exactly in the wrist. I'm not sure you addres the posters problem." CreationDate="2013-07-24T14:38:24.483" UserId="1204" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3832" PostId="2104" Score="0" Text="If you can list some exercise with sticks that you wish to replace, or the movements most strenous to you, maybe we can help you better." CreationDate="2013-07-24T14:39:57.770" UserId="1204" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3833" PostId="2107" Score="1" Text="@mart My *entire point* is that tailoring a strength program to a specific task (&quot;wrist action&quot;) is folly for anyone who doesn't already have a substantial amount of non-task-specific-strength. This is a well-understood aspect of sports training: for novices (who the OP almost certainly is) general strength training improves strength for all tasks better than task-specific strength training even for the specific task." CreationDate="2013-07-24T14:41:04.613" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3834" PostId="1251" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann&#xA;You can hardly refer to the competitors in the first 5 UFCs as being the best representatives for strikers. The Gracies however, were at the top of the grappling world and the majority of even other grapplers did not know about submissions because Catch Wrestling was sidelined for the less violent Greco-Roman and Free styles, Kung Fu became cinematic/gymnastic Wushu after the Cultural Revolution and Japanese Jiu-Jitsu became the more sportive and practitioner-preserving Judo &quot;gentle way&quot; while Aiki-jutsu became the softer and more philosophical Aikido after the war." CreationDate="2013-07-25T16:17:46.133" UserId="1213" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3836" PostId="1250" Score="0" Text="Why not state the art you train in? There are lots of art-specific ways to handle grappling and an experienced practitioner may be able to suggest something more applicable for your own experience level. Also, most importantly, I don't think a martial art exists that doesn't have some amount of grappling in it, mind you a particular school might shy away from or skip over that side of the art for sportive reasons or personal preferences of the instructor. Even predominantly striking arts like Boxing or TKD for instance have clinch &amp; push-off techniques, or grab/punch combos that can help." CreationDate="2013-07-25T18:06:59.607" UserId="1213" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3837" PostId="1251" Score="0" Text="@bcmoney What non-grappling strikers would you refer to instead?" CreationDate="2013-07-25T20:08:50.690" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3838" PostId="2113" Score="2" Text="Early MMA fighters Tank Abott and Dan Severn both also transitioned to WCW wrestling to chase the money Shamrock was making. Furthermore, one of the BEST MMA guys of the last decade was a pro-wrestler first: Kasushi Sakuraba." CreationDate="2013-07-25T20:47:00.917" UserId="1076" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3839" PostId="2122" Score="1" Text="Could you summarize the video here?" CreationDate="2013-07-25T21:19:23.907" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3840" PostId="2035" Score="0" Text="@ChristopherPerry So what if you're gassed? If you're not vomiting or getting injured you're learning something." CreationDate="2013-07-25T21:22:57.567" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3841" PostId="2022" Score="0" Text="I started taking BCAAs and this helped my muscle fatigue." CreationDate="2013-07-25T22:45:36.593" UserId="1171" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3842" PostId="2026" Score="0" Text="True. I noticed I was doing this." CreationDate="2013-07-25T22:46:00.597" UserId="1171" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3843" PostId="1250" Score="0" Text="@bcmoney the question is meant to be as generic as possible, while yet having useful answers (hopefully). Stating the art would make the problem less generic." CreationDate="2013-07-25T23:14:32.253" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3844" PostId="2021" Score="2" Text="Chris, your update would make a good answer." CreationDate="2013-07-25T23:16:34.673" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3845" PostId="1251" Score="0" Text="Since we're talking 80s/90s during the early days of MMA and UFC in particular, how about:&#xA; Mike Tyson (world Boxing champ at the time)   &#xA; Benny Urquidez (world champion Kickboxer)  &#xA; Andy Hug (world champion of Kyokushin Karate later K-1)  &#xA; Bas Rutten (King of Pancrase before he'd reached anywhere near Gracie-level grappling)   &#xA; Namsaknoi Yudthagarngamtorn (Muay Thai champion in the 90s)&#xA; The Gracies never fought any other top Kickboxer or Muay Thai stylist for that matter" CreationDate="2013-07-25T23:21:50.607" UserId="1213" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3846" PostId="2021" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann To be fair, many of the existing answers contributed to what was (for me) the answer. I wish I could mark a single answer as 'the' answer, but I'm hard pressed to choose. I can't really take credit for the answer because what I found out was that every answer submitted here was part of the solution to my problem." CreationDate="2013-07-26T00:29:37.760" UserId="1171" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3847" PostId="2022" Score="0" Text="@ChristopherPerry Excellent suggestion - BCAAs are great for recovery and could really assist the turnaround time between workouts for the OP." CreationDate="2013-07-26T00:36:04.153" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3849" PostId="2124" Score="3" Text="It might be that you are &quot;pushing&quot; rather than &quot;snapping&quot; with your front kick. When pushing, you get lots of displacement on your opponent, obviously, but you absorb a large part of the blow yourself. A snapping front kick could lead to more damage on your opponent, but will push him back a lot less. Depending on your intent (displacement vs damage), it might actually be that your turning kick technique is better than your front kick." CreationDate="2013-07-26T13:33:57.287" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3850" PostId="2124" Score="0" Text="@Dungarth, I was taught to use the instep as the contact point for front kick initially. But for some reason, this was changed to the ball of the foot. Hence, the pushing instead of snapping. This could be the reason for the larger displacement caused by my front kick. I thought a larger displacement equals to greater damage. Thanks for enlightening me :)" CreationDate="2013-07-26T16:41:37.737" UserId="1268" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3851" PostId="2125" Score="0" Text="I thought the terms used are quite universal, didn't know a turning kick can also be called a round kick. Yes, for turning kick or round kick, my foot rotates all the way back exactly like what you mentioned. Have you tried kicking a punching bag to compare the swing produce by the two kicks?" CreationDate="2013-07-26T16:48:13.403" UserId="1268" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3852" PostId="2125" Score="0" Text="@QuestionOverflow - Yes, in many different forms. My educational background is in kinesiology (Study of human movement), and I have 20+ years in martial arts. I've done a lot of comparisons of all the basic kicks in various manners/forms. If you are turning your plant foot and still not getting a lot of power, then there is something in either technique or timing that is off, but almost impossible to diagnose without video or being there." CreationDate="2013-07-26T16:51:40.383" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3853" PostId="2124" Score="1" Text="@QuestionOverflow - It depends on the application. Ball of foot (done properly) puts all of the impact into a smaller area, which increases the amount of pressure you're getting out of the kick. However, most shoes don't allow this, plus many people have trouble getting their toes out of the way, so the instep is taught as a preferred method. It also increases the margin of error, so if your kick is off by an inch or two with an instep it really doesn't matter too much, whereas with a ball of foot target being an inch off can result in a complete miss." CreationDate="2013-07-26T16:54:09.987" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3854" PostId="2126" Score="0" Text="Yes, I agree, the comparison is a bit unfair in that the former is used more for pushing. If displacement of the target is not a measure of power, how does one compare the power generated by the two different kicks?" CreationDate="2013-07-26T16:55:04.647" UserId="1268" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3855" PostId="2126" Score="1" Text="Scoring is dependent on the system. In WTF (Olympic) tkd, then the front kick is not really used because it's hard to meet the power standards for scoring with it. In contact type sparring where first contact to a legal area scores, it's much more in use, as it is a fast kick. For power sparring, it's used to stop or gain distance (push style) for other techniques, or an instep to stop opponents and/or set up for a follow up technique. (Such as push front to stop an incoming opponent followed by a plant/reverse side kick for the power scoring technique)." CreationDate="2013-07-26T16:58:50.863" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3856" PostId="2125" Score="0" Text="It could be due to my wrong perception about power. Because I have this misconception that the amount of swing I can produce on a punching bag is equivalent to the power I can generate." CreationDate="2013-07-26T17:01:35.973" UserId="1268" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3857" PostId="2126" Score="0" Text="Thanks JohnP. I should mention, my experience is primarily with WTF Taekwondo, and I'm most familiar with rules regarding that style of tkd." CreationDate="2013-07-26T17:17:01.837" UserId="271" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3858" PostId="2126" Score="0" Text="Question Overflow - is there a particular reason you wish to measure the power generated by the two different kicks? The Fight Science video compares the front kick of a Karate practitioner vs. a Taekwondo Round, Muay Thai Round, and Capoeira round kick. If you wanted an objective measurement of your own kicks, you would want to use similar equipment.  Accessing the movement of a punching bag will only go so far..." CreationDate="2013-07-26T17:22:36.907" UserId="271" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3859" PostId="2124" Score="0" Text="@QuestionOverflow - I know using high school physics is not the best way to explain martial arts, but maybe this will help you out... Each kick can only perform a set amount of work. Displacement requires work, usually calculated by multiplying force and distance traveled. But causing damage also requires work, as in breaking bones, bruising muscles or rupturing internal organs. All the work that goes into displacing your opponent does not go into causing damage. But it does make the bag swing more... (this is only a gross simplification, but the general idea should be sound enough)" CreationDate="2013-07-26T20:44:04.063" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3861" PostId="2040" Score="1" Text="Can you provide a more detailed explanation why those martial arts are better for aging bodies compared to others?" CreationDate="2013-07-27T13:51:00.267" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3862" PostId="2121" Score="3" Text="Can you provide a more detailed explanation why those martial arts are better for aging bodies compared to others?" CreationDate="2013-07-27T13:51:10.207" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3863" PostId="2050" Score="0" Text="Why would boxing be better on your joints compared to other martial arts? Can you provide a more thorough explanation?" CreationDate="2013-07-27T13:51:44.147" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3864" PostId="2126" Score="0" Text="@harmlessdragon, in the Fight Science episode, they measure both speed and force separately. But they never show how these measurements are correlated to the damage one can cause. Using physics, which parameter should we look at? Velocity? Momentum? Impulse? Force? Pressure? Energy? Or Power?" CreationDate="2013-07-27T13:51:56.580" UserId="1268" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3866" PostId="2122" Score="1" Text="Alas, the summary is the title; I find it very difficult to summarize kinesthesiology in text.  Essential Mr. Gilmer demonstrates a number of variations of single whip in response to attacks." CreationDate="2013-07-28T20:39:25.823" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3867" PostId="2129" Score="6" Text="You will spend years learning the correct posture and positions. This is perfectly normal." CreationDate="2013-07-30T12:33:02.683" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3868" PostId="2129" Score="0" Text="@slugster: so should I just not try to force it and just continue practicing in front of a mirror until I get it ? Or is there anything I can do to progress faster ?" CreationDate="2013-07-30T13:33:21.773" UserId="1208" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3869" PostId="2130" Score="0" Text="Thanks, will follow  your advice. Unfortunately there are only two classes per week where I am going, so I cannot go more often than this." CreationDate="2013-07-30T15:18:48.887" UserId="1208" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3870" PostId="2130" Score="2" Text="@BlueTrin Perhaps yoga and barbell training could fill in the gaps, to ensure that you have the requisite strength and mobility." CreationDate="2013-07-30T15:54:20.460" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3871" PostId="266" Score="0" Text="This is an excellent answer, though I think the idea that firearms can be taught easily is a bit misleading.  It's true that a competent instructor can show the basics in just a couple of hours, but true mastery of even one type of gun requires a substantial investment in time and effort and you handle rifles differently from pistols which are different from shotguns which are different from machine guns, so trying to master &quot;guns&quot; as an entire class is a major undertaking." CreationDate="2013-07-30T23:45:54.040" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3872" PostId="266" Score="0" Text="@TimothyAWiseman: Good comment. Master in anything takes time no matter what your skill is." CreationDate="2013-07-31T06:48:42.263" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3873" PostId="2132" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the tips, to answer your question: I try to practice in front of a mirror or on a punching bag outside of classes about 5 times a week for 1 hour. Cannot do more with my current job as I also have to do strength training and stretching." CreationDate="2013-08-02T08:43:44.690" UserId="1208" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3874" PostId="2102" Score="3" Text="I'd back that up. Aikido schools don't allow students to teach each other, because Billy 4th kyu doesn't know enough to get it right, and doesn't have instructor training either. It's about safety, and about the quality of what we're doing, and also about separating the aikido _you_ do from the aikido you should _teach_, which are not necessarily the same. I'm sure the same applies to most martial arts, so whenever you're in doubt about something like this _ask your instructor_, ignore your advisory comrade and, if necessary, avoid training with them." CreationDate="2013-08-02T13:39:44.737" UserId="1283" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3875" PostId="1610" Score="0" Text="For the OP: Can you elaborate on the problems that it is causing with barefoot training? For @Wudang - Chiropractors follow almost the exact same educational path as MD recipients. Your opinion is just that, and serves no constructive purpose in this context." CreationDate="2013-08-02T15:05:34.717" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3876" PostId="1610" Score="3" Text="An opinion backed by evidence.  Google for Cochrane reviews of chiropractors. Google research on &quot;subluxations&quot; and say asthma. Have a look at http://whatstheharm.net/chiropractic.html     A properly trained MD has a wide understanding of the whole body and should be able to recommend appropriate specialists." CreationDate="2013-08-03T19:49:33.610" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3877" PostId="2134" Score="3" Text="Yeah, I've always noticed that [boxers lack whole body power](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR3qbQeo8nY) and [BJJ fighters lack mental discipline](http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/1/4/3831822/gods-of-war-ronaldo-jacare-souza-strikeforce-UFC-MMA-jiu-jitsu-video-highlights). Wait, no, that's absurd." CreationDate="2013-08-04T16:38:26.983" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3878" PostId="2134" Score="0" Text="Of course you are right.  Any one can develop full body power and become mentally disciplined." CreationDate="2013-08-04T16:49:20.197" UserId="1286" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3879" PostId="2134" Score="0" Text="So...do the kata develop it faster? Better? Or are they just the way karate folk happen to do it, no better than any other approach? I found kata unnecessary once I realized (as you note) that kihon and kumite are sufficient for training." CreationDate="2013-08-04T16:51:22.877" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3880" PostId="2134" Score="0" Text="The fault in your response is you gave a rhetorical reply that doesn't address the best methodology to accomplish these goals.  Simply stating that a boxer can be well coordinated and physically powerful and that a bjj stylist can exhibit discipline misses the issue of approach which is mental discipline vs. athletic training...  Kata's prime goal, as karate, is the mind exerting complete control over the body at all times.... that's the difference..." CreationDate="2013-08-04T17:01:51.510" UserId="1286" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3881" PostId="2134" Score="1" Text="Dave, I can agree that kihon and kumite (practiced traditionally) can provide the mental discipline for martial skill.  Where I differ is that I believe kata exercise provides a level of sophistication in one's mental capabilities that is more advanced and powerful, which in turn drives the body's physical actions in a more effective way..." CreationDate="2013-08-04T17:07:07.890" UserId="1286" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3882" PostId="2134" Score="0" Text="I'm sorry if I wasn't explicit about the best methodology to accomplish the goals of mental discipline and full body power. I think that methodology is learning and drilling fundamental techniques plus sparring. That's how artists of all disciplines develop those skills. One practices complete control over the whole body at all times during proper execution of those training methods. Kata is superfluous." CreationDate="2013-08-04T17:16:02.067" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3884" PostId="2134" Score="3" Text="&quot;Only karate, . . . has the second component of martial training, i.e. kata.&quot; This is not true. Tomiki aikido has kata. One could argue that taiji is kata. Since Tomiki shares Goshin with Judo, I believe judo has kata. Difficult to evaluate your core answer in the context of misstatements like these." CreationDate="2013-08-05T11:07:58.673" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3885" PostId="2137" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the answer. I certainly don't want to be hyper vigilant and attract trouble. My concern with mu shin is that we don't do drills and sparring in Aikido which is my primary art (systema is my second art but I quite literally just began it). So frankly I'm concerned that I'd be unable to apply any of my training in a real situation where no-mind and no-posture (and no-preparation) are the realities of the encounter." CreationDate="2013-08-05T16:52:16.843" UserId="682" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3886" PostId="2137" Score="0" Text="@Jeremy: Aikido has randori, sometimes practiced against multiple opponents, which should help. If not, pick up a book on Shodokan Aikido -- I suggest the ones that either [Nariyama](http://www.amazon.co.uk/Aikido-Randori-Tetsuro-Nariyama/dp/0956620507) or [Allbright](http://www.amazon.co.uk/Aikido-Randori-Reconciliation-Opposing-Forces/dp/1861264984/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1375773064&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=allbright+aikido) wrote and do some randori-ho.  Tomiki's big drive was to develop mushin mugamae in Aikido." CreationDate="2013-08-06T07:12:53.047" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3889" PostId="948" Score="0" Text="A similar progression from fixed-step tuishou to sanshou as similar to free fighting as possible is shown in [this Yiquan video](http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=_nU7mbP5RPc#at=151). [This Bullshido thread](http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=115323) has other videos and discusses the reasoning and history behind the rulesets." CreationDate="2013-08-07T16:22:05.343" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3891" PostId="2128" Score="0" Text="One note - The more you increase the arc, the slower your kick will be. It's a trade off." CreationDate="2013-08-08T22:14:25.827" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3892" PostId="2082" Score="0" Text="I agree with Juann to check wikipedia. However I would like to add that many animal styles have both a northern influence and southern influence. For example there is a northern version of dragon kung fu and a southern version as well. Wikipedia is a great source so yeah." CreationDate="2013-07-09T14:38:24.690" UserId="1227" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3893" PostId="2134" Score="0" Text="I've merged your second answer back into this one as it was a reply (multiple answers should be separate and distinct, capable of standing individually). Check it over and edit it as you see fit." CreationDate="2013-08-09T00:37:06.967" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3894" PostId="2140" Score="0" Text="Excellent answer; do you have any citations?" CreationDate="2013-08-09T10:09:18.570" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3895" PostId="2134" Score="2" Text="I am going to downvote this question.  As it stands, it is confusing, borders of mythical mumbo-jumbo, and I cannot see what the answers drive at.  I think there is a good answer buried in there but it needs refining." CreationDate="2013-08-09T10:46:39.417" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3896" PostId="238" Score="0" Text="-1 for kata don't have any 'real world' implication.  +1 for the last paragraph." CreationDate="2013-08-09T10:51:07.433" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3897" PostId="2128" Score="0" Text="Indeed. But you'll always generate more kinetic energy. Which is what the OP is after." CreationDate="2013-08-09T11:49:47.407" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3899" PostId="2140" Score="1" Text="Unfortunately, other than the wiki entry on it, no. My wife teaches Irish dance, so we hang out with a lot of Irish and Irish ex-pats, and I talked about it with an amateur Irish historian guy at our Irish Cultural Center a couple weeks back." CreationDate="2013-08-09T16:14:34.853" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3900" PostId="2126" Score="0" Text="@QuestionOverflow - If you want to assess the damage done, you would need to compare pressure (Or pressure per square inch, PSI to be technically correct). For example, say you do a reverse punch and a reverse knuckle punch with the exact same amount of speed and energy and impact. The knuckle punch has a better chance to create more damage because the impact area is the point of one knuckle rather than the entire fist surface area, which increases the pressure actually applied." CreationDate="2013-08-09T16:22:48.390" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3901" PostId="239" Score="0" Text="Its worth getting back into Go.  It is one of the most enjoyable games out there." CreationDate="2013-08-09T16:50:10.980" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3902" PostId="2082" Score="0" Text="Added a couple other notable styles from wikipedia's two major articles that mention distinctive southern styles and accepted" CreationDate="2013-08-09T22:26:15.777" UserId="1213" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3903" PostId="2143" Score="1" Text="I think most of your post is very valuable, but I don't think what you say about striking from the shoulder is correct. Maybe your meaning is right and your words are wrong. The shoulder should barely (if at all) be involved in a strike. If you strike from the shoulder, you are disconnecting yourself from your hips, which is  where the most powerful muscles in the body are." CreationDate="2013-08-12T01:40:15.787" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3904" PostId="262" Score="0" Text="@slugster Still waiting for citations! :-)" CreationDate="2013-08-12T01:42:15.653" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3905" PostId="2143" Score="0" Text="Not really, you should test it and feel it, using the shoulder or not has nothing to do with hips movement. In fact you would notice it pushing naturally if you extend your rotation, and not using it is counter productive in the case of a punch, as your punch is going forwards and the shoulder is pushing backwards." CreationDate="2013-08-12T06:25:08.507" UserId="1295" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3906" PostId="262" Score="0" Text="you could go check sensei Patrick Mccarthy (http://www.koryu-uchinadi.com/), sensei Ian Abernethy (http://www.iainabernethy.co.uk/) - http://nononsenseselfdefense.com/ - the references mentioned in the below answer @David H. Clements" CreationDate="2013-08-12T06:35:54.023" UserId="1295" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3907" PostId="967" Score="0" Text="I am afraid that this reads like a lot of clever sounding jargon and buzz words.  You give no description of *what* you do. For example: what does &quot;protective SPEAR&quot; means?  Why the need for capitalised letters? In additions, a single method which can be used &quot;in any attack scenario&quot; is wishful thinking. Can you narrow it down a little?  Would it protect against a fire arms ambush?" CreationDate="2013-08-12T06:44:14.097" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3908" PostId="2143" Score="1" Text="thx for the edit @Sardathrion, I just understood what I wrote hehe" CreationDate="2013-08-12T07:17:51.103" UserId="1295" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3909" PostId="2143" Score="1" Text="@nsawaya: You are most welcome. If I inadvertently changed your meaning, please do edit the post again." CreationDate="2013-08-12T07:27:57.677" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3910" PostId="2143" Score="0" Text="@nsawaya I don't understand what you mean by &quot;the shoulder is pushing backwards&quot;. Could you help me?" CreationDate="2013-08-12T12:11:21.930" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3911" PostId="2143" Score="0" Text="@Trevoke I have added some images from the Internet" CreationDate="2013-08-12T14:23:42.783" UserId="1295" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3912" PostId="2144" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site. There is a nice question in there.  However, there are a few unclear bits:  What do you mean by &quot;spiritual peace&quot;? By heavy, do you mean 180 pounds of muscles plus bone or do you mean coach lizard?" CreationDate="2013-08-12T16:27:15.690" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3913" PostId="967" Score="0" Text="SPEAR: Spontaneous Protection Enabling Accelerated Response. Protective SPEAR is the act when you are attempting to push danger away from you, which tends to be a natural response. I will modify and not say any attack, you can't do an ECT drill against a sniper with a long range scope and high powered rifle, but talking physical attacks." CreationDate="2013-08-12T19:00:01.230" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3914" PostId="2144" Score="1" Text="All due respect, but I wouldn't call 6'2&quot; and 180lb &quot;heavy&quot;. You might lack toning/definition/strength, but it's not particularly heavy." CreationDate="2013-08-12T23:26:18.703" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3915" PostId="2147" Score="1" Text="I know that O'Sensei did teach bayonet during the second world war and I was thinking that it would be more likely than a spear (too short!)." CreationDate="2013-08-13T14:13:36.347" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3916" PostId="2146" Score="1" Text="re your aside: My opinion is that the jo staff is not meant to _represent_ anything. It is studied for the direct purpose of improving one's Aikido." CreationDate="2013-08-13T14:17:58.613" UserId="579" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3917" PostId="2146" Score="1" Text="@CraigConstantine: That opens a can of worms as to why *uke* does the things that *uke* does.  With a blade at the end, most moves/counters makes sense. If there is no blade, things become a little more muddied. Of course, we both agree that both *Aikido jo* and *Aikido bokken* are tools to learn *Aikido* first and learn some cool wooden weapons skillz second." CreationDate="2013-08-13T14:39:41.270" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3919" PostId="2141" Score="0" Text="Qi has been scientifically investigated and was found to be little more than belief." CreationDate="2013-08-14T09:46:20.893" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3920" PostId="2141" Score="2" Text="Chinese people today often use the word &quot;qi&quot; for &quot;energy&quot; as we would saying &quot;this painting has a lot of energy&quot;, &quot;I don't have the energy to do this&quot;, &quot;I slept well so I have a lot of energy&quot;" CreationDate="2013-08-15T00:58:56.333" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3921" PostId="969" Score="0" Text="The British event you show is &quot;fixed step&quot; as opposed to moving step.  The moving step events in the UK comps are often criticized as being too rough. I've had a chest muscle snap doing push hands and my students at these events always took spare Tshirts as they'd be soaked in sweat." CreationDate="2013-08-15T01:05:46.283" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3922" PostId="2071" Score="0" Text="Good answer but a little unfair to call it hand-waving.  It's a pre-scientific word for energy used in many different contexts by chinese people today where we would say energy." CreationDate="2013-08-15T01:19:08.340" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3923" PostId="2145" Score="1" Text="&quot;it is vital that you chose a good school and a good teacher. Talk to them and make them aware of what your goals are. Talk to their students.&quot;  This." CreationDate="2013-08-15T01:20:13.360" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3924" PostId="2151" Score="2" Text="-1 as this is a terrible answer. It is just a link to some block called Geoff.  We have no idea who he is, what he does, or what the video is about. Note that links are subject to rot so are no good without an explanation.  So, no it does not help I am afraid.  This could be a good answer but it needs expending." CreationDate="2013-08-15T08:07:30.893" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3926" PostId="2150" Score="0" Text="My Brother studied bajiquan in china and learned that qi is not energy, it is literally 'your air' hence the variety of breathing techniques involved. When used in martial arts, qi is not the power and energy you used, but it is the force from the air you use." CreationDate="2013-08-16T10:47:16.557" UserId="1198" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3927" PostId="2141" Score="2" Text="Breaking things and not being broken is not qi, it is physical conditioning that every chinese martial artist does. Qi also does not give you more physical strength, it gives you more power. These are 2 different things." CreationDate="2013-08-16T10:53:00.190" UserId="1198" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3928" PostId="2130" Score="0" Text="I started strength training and Pilates. Pilates surprisingly help alot with any moves involving your core (it is most noticeable on hooks)" CreationDate="2013-08-16T17:17:39.803" UserId="1208" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3929" PostId="2151" Score="0" Text="I've read the book &quot;Watch My Back&quot;, you are right it contains several tricks for avoiding threats and fighting opponents IRL, he used when he was a bouncer. Maybe when I go thru it again I'll write an answer." CreationDate="2013-08-17T10:32:55.543" UserId="108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3930" PostId="2153" Score="0" Text="The correct way to practice striking at home alone without a punching bag is to troll craigslist for a cheap used punching bag." CreationDate="2013-08-17T15:28:56.713" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3931" PostId="2153" Score="0" Text="How fit are you? How mobile are your shoulders? I can't tell without seeing you do the technique, but maybe you're not so flexible in that direction and you need to do some remedial mobility &amp; strength work." CreationDate="2013-08-17T15:30:00.733" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3932" PostId="2153" Score="0" Text="@Dave Liepmann, I think flexibility may be an issue here, particularly in this direction. I cannot hang a punching bag (living in a flat) although there is some kind of park where I could try to hang a bag." CreationDate="2013-08-18T10:15:24.233" UserId="1208" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3933" PostId="2154" Score="0" Text="is what you said about changing the perspective of the strike also valid of straights or hooks ?" CreationDate="2013-08-19T08:22:12.893" UserId="1208" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3934" PostId="2163" Score="0" Text="That sounds like ours too, how about the forms? p.s. What school do you go to?" CreationDate="2013-08-21T10:36:38.330" UserId="1244" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3935" PostId="1773" Score="3" Text="Pro tip:I should point out that I got much higher points for Patterns at national and international level when emulating the Shotokan style." CreationDate="2013-08-21T17:51:54.863" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3936" PostId="2165" Score="0" Text="Thanks :) by spiritual part I meant being able to focus at task in hand and be self confident. And I started Aikido and it is quite fun, relaxing and good." CreationDate="2013-08-22T13:26:03.680" UserId="1202" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3937" PostId="2096" Score="0" Text="One clarification - You say you've been training &quot;years&quot;, how many years? While wanting to cross train is admirable, if you have been training extensively in CKD and still have not achieved BB, why would you want to mix in more stuff? When was the last time you were in &quot;real world combat&quot; where grappling would have made a difference?" CreationDate="2013-08-22T16:12:15.790" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3938" PostId="1919" Score="0" Text="While it is entirely in the realm of possibility, I am always amused when the &quot;flavor of the month&quot; martial art suddenly has all these instructors popping up that were &quot;trained by the Heap High Expert for X assignments&quot;. As far as walking in a ready stance, yeah, don't do that. You only invite stares and comments or direct challenges, neither of which you really want." CreationDate="2013-08-23T14:35:02.803" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3939" PostId="56" Score="0" Text="WTF is oluympic TKD, while ITF is not. The Self-defense oriented variation is WTTU (World traditional TKD Union)." CreationDate="2013-08-24T19:05:34.517" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3940" PostId="2171" Score="3" Text="-1 for ignoring the law, this will lead you straight to jail. +1 for using minimal force.  This borders on a good answer..." CreationDate="2013-08-25T12:35:43.590" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3941" PostId="2171" Score="1" Text="Right, I mention that the law (jail) will be better than simply letting the attacker assault you, but that there will be consequences." CreationDate="2013-08-25T13:28:29.680" UserId="262" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3942" PostId="2174" Score="1" Text="Hi and welcome to Martial Arts. In its current state your question is incredibly broad and hard to answer definitively and usefully, especially as the answer will vary for every person wanting to use the answer (everyone is different). Can you narrow down your question at all? Add some more information, like any particular program that you are on now, and anything you know to work for yourself?" CreationDate="2013-08-26T08:10:15.367" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3943" PostId="2172" Score="1" Text="Aside from the internal politics of the SCA, this is a good answer. IIRC there are some Kingdoms that also have archery as part of their Grand Melee events. In addition to the training, SCA also has live combat events of both one on one and multiple opponent scenarios." CreationDate="2013-08-26T14:59:25.877" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3945" PostId="2172" Score="2" Text="In regard to the politics, it is possible to avoid them. Plenty of people do." CreationDate="2013-08-27T14:28:01.947" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3946" PostId="2172" Score="2" Text="Oh, agreed. But the very structure of the SCA with the royalty, squires, etc., lends itself to political machination. It's actually a good representation of what royal society was like for the era. I used to perform at Ren Faires and I have some friends in SCA, some are into the politics, some aren't." CreationDate="2013-08-27T15:29:19.583" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3948" PostId="1038" Score="1" Text="Solid answer! Another big difference is the speed at which they are designed to be learned." CreationDate="2013-08-28T13:45:32.277" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3949" PostId="204" Score="0" Text="@Wudang - I've trained Beijing competition style (which is basically Wu style with some Chen mixed in), and that can be very fast." CreationDate="2013-08-30T14:06:16.050" UserId="1326" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3950" PostId="1655" Score="0" Text="+1: Winding-in is an essential part of silk reeling, which (see Sigman 2012a, from my answer) might be said to characterise the distinctive power of the internal martial arts." CreationDate="2013-08-30T14:12:52.283" UserId="1326" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3951" PostId="2163" Score="0" Text="Can you add some more context to your answer? At the moment it is just a bunch of numbers, maybe you could add names/descriptions, or links?" CreationDate="2013-09-01T03:20:45.440" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3952" PostId="2178" Score="0" Text="Mike has created a 6H group on facebook.  There's also a Greenoch Ninjas group for old (way way old) rec.m-a posters." CreationDate="2013-09-02T15:50:08.917" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3953" PostId="2185" Score="3" Text="Thanks so much for your insight :) you are right about Muay Thai and I have also tried Hapkido by accident and found them to be very brutal. However I am enjoying Aikido a lot, and if I ever consider changing I think I will give Ju Do or Wing Chun a try." CreationDate="2013-09-03T18:36:06.690" UserId="1202" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3954" PostId="1411" Score="0" Text="Does he only display them?" CreationDate="2013-09-03T18:42:26.783" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3955" PostId="1986" Score="1" Text="Why make the separation between a &quot;Self Defense tactice system&quot; and a &quot;martial art&quot;? &#xA;What do you think Karate/jujustu/kung-fu were made for? Its not at all different then what Krav was created for; fighting." CreationDate="2013-09-03T18:48:05.027" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3956" PostId="1279" Score="0" Text="To basic infantry in the IDF Krav Maga was all about rifle strikes (things might have changed since they adopted the new, much smaller Tavor). Unless you were in spec-ops you did not go into hand to hand combat." CreationDate="2013-09-03T18:52:35.423" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3957" PostId="1986" Score="3" Text="It's not my distinction. Its the distinction that Krav Maga's various associations make. Krav Maga has no Art to it. It's all about street mentality w.r.t. self-defense. KM is far from perfect, but I certainly think the distinction is a valid one." CreationDate="2013-09-03T19:51:17.137" UserId="4" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3958" PostId="1986" Score="1" Text="Personally I would say it like any art is simply a sub category. A focus on one thing or another does not really make it a different animal." CreationDate="2013-09-03T20:23:53.333" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3959" PostId="1411" Score="0" Text="Yes - the weapons will only be displayed; my colleague is not a martial artist." CreationDate="2013-09-04T10:44:19.413" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3960" PostId="1411" Score="1" Text="This is not related to a case, more to storage. I would suggest using Neverwet (a super intense waterproof coating) to guard against rust." CreationDate="2013-09-04T14:19:51.717" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3961" PostId="1411" Score="0" Text="Thanks - appreciate the advice. Wish I could find a display case though." CreationDate="2013-09-04T14:33:25.083" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3962" PostId="1411" Score="0" Text="Whats the budget?" CreationDate="2013-09-04T15:31:53.230" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3963" PostId="1411" Score="0" Text="I'm not sure what the budget is, but they're trying to protect both the precious family relics of prior generations (weapons) and the precious family relics of future generations (the children)." CreationDate="2013-09-04T16:04:58.667" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3966" PostId="2192" Score="0" Text="Can you tell me name of that great person or any reference of him?" CreationDate="2013-09-06T12:39:52.497" UserId="1340" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3967" PostId="2192" Score="2" Text="No. I don't have access to the book at the moment. I recommend finding the book online or getting your hands on a copy and reading for yourself." CreationDate="2013-09-06T12:42:58.763" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3969" PostId="2192" Score="0" Text="Actually I am eagerly waiting to know about his name and also a story in Author's way if possible." CreationDate="2013-09-06T12:52:04.043" UserId="1340" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3970" PostId="2192" Score="0" Text="@NullVoid - I would suggest going to the library or ordering it. Even if someone has it, they are not going to type out the full story here." CreationDate="2013-09-06T14:42:46.583" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3971" PostId="1313" Score="0" Text="Not a fan of used MA equipment. It's like asking for a used staph infection. Try here: http://www.maeqd.com/category-1044-martial-arts-mats.html" CreationDate="2013-09-06T18:58:36.130" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3972" PostId="2192" Score="0" Text="@JohnP, No problem for a long story :). But if possible to know name?!" CreationDate="2013-09-07T03:50:39.343" UserId="1340" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3974" PostId="2183" Score="0" Text="Are any practiced in the states?" CreationDate="2013-09-09T13:53:11.403" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3975" PostId="2187" Score="0" Text="Are either practiced in the States?" CreationDate="2013-09-09T13:58:34.227" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3976" PostId="1333" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the reality check from you and everyone. Appreciate the website reference you and others have provided." CreationDate="2013-09-09T16:12:50.070" UserId="572" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3977" PostId="1735" Score="0" Text="Great advice onf Craigslist searching. Will try it." CreationDate="2013-09-09T16:13:47.057" UserId="572" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3978" PostId="2187" Score="0" Text="Yes, in a few Okinawan/Japanese karate dojo, and by the (quite rare) kobudo teachers." CreationDate="2013-09-09T17:27:08.863" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3979" PostId="2200" Score="0" Text="i agree that multiple ways all have some advantage in different scenarios. The step may be good to close distance simultaneously with the jab. but with the step the forward leg really participate in speeding up the punch and feels strange." CreationDate="2013-09-11T13:24:14.490" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3980" PostId="2183" Score="0" Text="@Btuman I do not live in the states. But you should contact Johnny Long at &lt;johnny@ihackstuff.com&gt;—he's a penetration tester/security engineer—and ask him where [he practices Bujinkan](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfFELeCP-oA)—you only need to watch 2 minutes into the video to verify." CreationDate="2013-09-12T07:36:20.047" UserId="1333" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3982" PostId="589" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I agree with that, but even then we can ask what kind of fighting. Do they want to kill/maim the other person? Or are we talking sport-fighting/tournaments? Or perhaps they want to control someone long enough to handcuff them? Or perhaps they want to survive the initial attack long enough to run away? Different arts focus on those different aspects of fighting to different degrees." CreationDate="2013-09-12T19:08:43.673" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3985" PostId="2204" Score="21" Text="+1.  Are you planning to train your Zombie army to resist chainsaws?...." CreationDate="2013-09-13T08:46:12.293" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3986" PostId="2204" Score="5" Text="There probably isn't anything *specifically* about chainsaws but I imagine any defence mechanisms for defending against two handed heavy weapons would apply" CreationDate="2013-09-13T09:12:59.697" UserDisplayName="user1010" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3987" PostId="2207" Score="2" Text="Or two chainsaws." CreationDate="2013-09-13T11:10:46.523" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3988" PostId="2201" Score="1" Text="Opinion.  Can you provide any facts to back it up?" CreationDate="2013-09-13T11:37:13.693" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3989" PostId="2204" Score="1" Text="What you need is a bigger chainsaw." CreationDate="2013-09-13T14:36:01.313" UserId="718" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3990" PostId="1762" Score="2" Text="It's not really due to time. BJJ started in 1914, while KM was first started in 1930's. It's due to philosophy more than anything. Also maybe smart marketing, since people won't see KM fighters get their butts kicked in the ring, they won't lose credibility." CreationDate="2013-09-13T15:29:16.307" UserId="4" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3991" PostId="2204" Score="5" Text="12 ga shotgun with buckshot would do wonders in stopping such an attack" CreationDate="2013-09-13T20:00:52.520" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3992" PostId="2183" Score="0" Text="@Btuman - The Bujinkan has several schools in the states, including many in the midwest. [There appear to be several in the Detroit area.](http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mza/UM_links.html)" CreationDate="2013-09-13T20:38:52.553" UserId="341" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3998" PostId="589" Score="0" Text="This is one of the oldest martial art forms ...just saying (:" CreationDate="2013-09-16T15:22:03.800" UserId="1333" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="3999" PostId="2206" Score="0" Text="Presuming that you actually hit them with the brick, and that said impact actually does the damage you expect. Contrary to movies and popular opinion, you can get hit with a thrown brick and not be knocked cold." CreationDate="2013-09-16T16:00:00.607" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4000" PostId="2206" Score="0" Text="I don't know what bricks you use in your country, but I have seen enough crime scenes in mine to know what a brick to the head does. Or should I have said to use the five-point-palm exploding-heart technique?" CreationDate="2013-09-16T16:08:33.017" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4001" PostId="2206" Score="0" Text="By the way, are you stalking me now?" CreationDate="2013-09-16T16:09:57.303" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4002" PostId="2206" Score="0" Text="Oh, yes, I'm seriously stalking you. If I was, I'd have downvoted this earlier. And I worked EMS for several years, I have also seen people hit with bricks both held and thrown that were not immediately incapacitated." CreationDate="2013-09-16T16:11:42.640" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4005" PostId="2216" Score="2" Text="@VaibhavGarg - From the FAQ/Help: Voting up a question or answer signals to the rest of the community that a post is interesting, well-researched, and useful, while voting down a post signals the opposite: that the post contains wrong information, is poorly researched, or fails to communicate information. Just because an answer makes you laugh is not a good reason to vote it up." CreationDate="2013-09-17T03:50:56.363" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4006" PostId="2216" Score="4" Text="Well, @JohnP, The question itself invites responses that are slightly tongue in cheek. Although, the presentation might seem flippant, it is evident that the a strategy of non-confrontation is being put forth in this answer, which I agree with." CreationDate="2013-09-17T04:48:56.173" UserId="1094" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4007" PostId="2216" Score="0" Text="So because the question isn't a great one, the answers should likewise deviate from the expected? Or should we expect a tongue in cheek explanation of how to run as a good answer on any self defense question, since that is one of the primary fight avoidance tactics?" CreationDate="2013-09-17T14:25:09.423" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4008" PostId="2217" Score="0" Text="What kind of armor are you talking about? Some armors (particularly heavier plate armors) limit mobility in specific ways." CreationDate="2013-09-17T20:33:57.153" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4009" PostId="2217" Score="0" Text="The armor can be anything used historically from around 1350 to 1500something. Mobility is generally left intact. &#xA;&#xA;Also Heavy Plate does not always limit mobility. for example  properly fitted suit of gothic plate (in which the fighter is covered head to toe in metal) is very easy to move in." CreationDate="2013-09-17T23:02:36.550" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4010" PostId="2216" Score="2" Text="This answer is getting more comments than expected. @JohnP, your first question: yes. Reason: S/E is made for constructive questioning. This is the reason questions are closed. Secondly, if I simply typed &quot;Run&quot; or &quot;Don't engage&quot;—which are all viable—how would that answer be received at first glance?" CreationDate="2013-09-18T02:17:44.577" UserId="1333" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4011" PostId="2216" Score="2" Text="As pertaining to the morals of this answer... Note: this is *martial arts* and not brawl arts. True martial arts teaches discipline and intelligence, when and when not to engage in an affray. The body, the primary weapon of all martial arts, is not an infinite—neither is it a regenerative—resource. Thank you (:" CreationDate="2013-09-18T02:20:54.667" UserId="1333" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4012" PostId="2216" Score="0" Text="If you simply typed run or not engage, it would be a comment. Dressing it up with humor doesn't necessarily improve a comment/answer that still in the end just says run. Voting up because a post is humorous instead of informative defeats the voting system." CreationDate="2013-09-18T03:23:55.700" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4013" PostId="2216" Score="4" Text="Well, It seems the upvote rubs @JohnP the wrong way. I don't know if that is the right data point, but I arrived at the question from the weekly newsletter, from the section- &quot;Top new questions this week&quot;. Now, if the question isn't great, the site admins/mod need to work on the newsletter question selection as well. Also, in principle, yes, humour is no substitute for content. Still, i refuse to rescind my vote based on a presentation issue, rather than a content issue." CreationDate="2013-09-18T03:59:40.410" UserId="1094" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4014" PostId="2217" Score="3" Text="Unfortunately, this becomes an extremely broad question; the Japanese, for instance, acknowledged that variations in armor affected mobility, differentiating the arts of *jujutsu* and *yoroi kumiuchi*. Everything is the same, but everything too is different. Technique can be adapted, but you must understand how your mobility is affected. This means range of motion in the arms, legs, hips, shoulders, and feet of both you and your opponent." CreationDate="2013-09-18T14:01:37.107" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4016" PostId="2176" Score="0" Text="I used to agree whole-heartedly with this. Rather than add another answer, I'll point out two things from my wonderful doctor. 1st: your body needs about 1500 calories in food a day to maintain your organs. If you're not taking in enough calories to maintain, the first signs are usually hair loss and loosening of teeth. 2nd: Eating animal proteins every day can increase purines, leading to gout. Purines are found in numerous sources, but are heavily tied to people with high protein low carb diets. Not sure if it's important to anyone, but take it for what it's worth." CreationDate="2013-09-18T16:53:13.610" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4017" PostId="2176" Score="0" Text="@stslavik - The amount of calories in a day for maintaining organs, etc., is variable among different people depending on age and sex among other factors. Uric acid from purines is also somewhat personally dependent, and saying it's in all meat is misleading. Yes, all meat does have purines, but in minimal amounts unless you are eating a lot of organ meats (Liver/kidney), some seafoods as well. There are also some veggies (Such as asparagus/mushrooms) that are high in purines. Agreed, though, if you eat a very high protein based diet, it's something to be aware of." CreationDate="2013-09-18T16:59:11.027" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4018" PostId="2217" Score="0" Text="It is broad it is true, but thus can be answered broadly also, like the examples I gave at the end. But your point is very fair" CreationDate="2013-09-18T18:13:31.927" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4019" PostId="2217" Score="0" Text="I suggest splitting the question into multiple parts, asking each separately and specifically, so you can get a better answer. For instance, &quot;What Asian martial arts would readily lend themselves to use in gothic plate?&quot; would be a good start, as it could be answered demonstrably with specificity. As it is, arguably the answer is &quot;any and all asian martial arts&quot; barring evidence to the contrary (That somebody, somewhere, has attempted it). Judo does not itself take into account changes in balance caused by the additional weight of full armor, though it could be adapted (so too could any)." CreationDate="2013-09-18T18:25:55.397" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4020" PostId="2217" Score="0" Text="Will do. My focus was actually not on the armor, which from my experience is not a huge factor, but for techniques." CreationDate="2013-09-18T20:07:34.567" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4021" PostId="2217" Score="1" Text="@stslavik Your comments would do well as an answer. I don't see any particular need to split this question up." CreationDate="2013-09-19T10:41:51.463" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4022" PostId="2013" Score="2" Text="Both schools sound like they are teaching only part of their arts. That's not a value judgement, different people focus on different things. Personally I'm more surprised a Judo school wouldn't deal with grappling, since chokes and locks are a pretty major part of judo, while in my experience BJJ is less focused on much throwing/etc beyond trips and sweeps. Please note that's my experience only." CreationDate="2013-09-19T15:16:17.047" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4024" PostId="2224" Score="0" Text="See updated answer." CreationDate="2013-09-20T10:06:47.843" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4026" PostId="2223" Score="0" Text="How do you measure &quot;close&quot;?" CreationDate="2013-09-20T11:45:35.660" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4027" PostId="2223" Score="0" Text="Close being, this skills and techniques required by parkour would be taught most by which school of martial arts?" CreationDate="2013-09-20T12:59:00.133" UserId="1364" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4029" PostId="2146" Score="2" Text="It is likely that much of O-sensei's training and inspiration in *jō* came from his close personal relationship with *Nakayama Hakudō* (中山博道), who held *menkyō* in *Shintō Musō-ryū* (among others). It's important to remember that while *Ueshiba Morihei* introduced *jō* into the art, it was largely codified into a specific skill set by *Saitō Morihiro*, who first published the techniques in 1973. The *jō* is not representative of anything other than a staff; specifically of a common length of walking stick used by itinerant monks and common travelers." CreationDate="2013-09-23T20:16:20.730" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4030" PostId="2236" Score="1" Text="+1 for asking the medical profession.  Science for the win." CreationDate="2013-09-25T10:18:02.897" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4032" PostId="2233" Score="0" Text="This is very interesting, definitely an angle I didn't consider. How do I learn to train my body and mind to recognize reasonable threats from fears, as you said? If that'd make a good new question, I'll definitely post it. Also, thanks for pointing out that I have already developed the pattern, that hit home." CreationDate="2013-09-26T02:22:50.277" UserId="682" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4033" PostId="2151" Score="0" Text="Even though the video was pretty badly done, at least it made me aware of a technique that could quite literally keep a safe distance (control space)." CreationDate="2013-09-26T02:25:54.073" UserId="682" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4036" PostId="2233" Score="1" Text="For those answers, I'll refer you to:&#xA;http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/172/25&#xA;http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/243/25&#xA;They may not seem related, but since what you're talking about now is a stimulus reaction, which is no different than a flinch reaction. You need to condition yourself to think in a new way, much the way you've conditioned yourself to react as you are now. We are conditioned beings: we are conditioned to shake hands like some Mithraic cult upon meeting new people, for instance. Learning a new way of behaving is simply conditioning." CreationDate="2013-09-26T14:08:06.443" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4037" PostId="2235" Score="1" Text="Recently I was shown a couple of karate punches by friends at leisure time (lead and back hand at face). When I tried them without target, or when I missed the target, straightening my elbow in the process HURT. The joint *clicked*. Does this have anything in common with the current discussion?" CreationDate="2013-09-27T14:20:30.347" UserId="485" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4038" PostId="2103" Score="1" Text="In the UK we had people like Kendo Nagasaki, Sasuke, The Midnight Rider and many others.&#xA;&#xA;Back in the 1800's in Paris there was 'The Masked Wrestler'&#xA;&#xA;It's been around for ages. Not just in the US." CreationDate="2013-09-27T22:29:01.013" UserId="57" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4039" PostId="2235" Score="0" Text="@Vorac, that is exactly what the question is about. I've added a link to my answer which is worth a read and explains it well." CreationDate="2013-09-27T23:25:36.410" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4040" PostId="2241" Score="1" Text="IMO if you're currently injuring yourself the answer is obvious. If you're punching hard, protect your joints in particular, unless you're really fired up about the recovery rest you'll be forced to take." CreationDate="2013-09-30T19:57:43.547" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4041" PostId="2246" Score="0" Text="It's not enough to downvote, and of course technique is important, but my experience is that the heavy bag is precisely the slice of training where one should be practicing power punching." CreationDate="2013-10-01T15:46:32.920" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4042" PostId="2246" Score="0" Text="My point is in wung chun you should not be focussing on the power of the punches. With speed and technique the required power will be there without power training on the heavy bag. Better focus on the speed and acuracy" CreationDate="2013-10-01T19:35:58.283" UserId="1008" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4043" PostId="2247" Score="6" Text="You seem to answer your own question: practice. How does one gain the most from practice? Practicing perfectly – performing the action with precision repeatedly. Start slow then as the action becomes reliable, build speed. Due to lacking muscles in non-dominant arms, the curve for adaptation is long. Be patient." CreationDate="2013-10-02T17:02:35.733" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4044" PostId="2247" Score="0" Text="reread my last line :)" CreationDate="2013-10-02T17:03:18.300" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4045" PostId="2247" Score="4" Text="Reread my comment." CreationDate="2013-10-02T17:04:04.177" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4047" PostId="2251" Score="0" Text="Corollary: Use of the non-dominant hand is always at the expense of your dominant hand. Using your non-dominant hand for everyday tasks will deprive your normal motor skills of their reliability." CreationDate="2013-10-03T12:48:12.377" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4048" PostId="2251" Score="2" Text="@stslavik - That is certainly true, though I would argue that the cost to the dominant side isn't as bad as some might think, especially if one is not exclusively using the non-dominant side. People still tend to be dominant in one side or the other, so continued practice should retain the dominant side motor skills. It ultimately comes back to &quot;use it or lose it.&quot;" CreationDate="2013-10-03T14:52:04.173" UserId="341" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4049" PostId="2250" Score="2" Text="uhm...what? Can you clarify what you are trying to say?" CreationDate="2013-10-03T17:25:17.240" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4050" PostId="1985" Score="2" Text="@Trevoke You are right, but to borrow a phrase, &quot;Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.&quot;  The burden of proof is on the ones making the mystical claims.  It is technical true that Dave has not proven it does not exist.  It would be close to impossible to truly prove it does not exist.  But all available evidence indicates that it probably does not exist and the minimal evidence for its existence is weak.  It is safe to assume it does not exist with a high degree of certainty until new evidence to the contrary is brought forward." CreationDate="2013-10-03T18:22:38.227" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4051" PostId="1985" Score="0" Text="I would amend your last sentence and remove &quot;with a high degree of certainty&quot;, but that may just be a pet peeve of mine. Skeptic, yes, but incredulous and annoying are things I don't like. I agree with basically everything else you wrote, but if you are sitting in your armchair waiting for this evidence, I guarantee you that it will not come to you :)" CreationDate="2013-10-04T23:22:30.480" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4052" PostId="1994" Score="0" Text="This is a very valuable answer. I wonder if there are ways to vote up answers for some sort of &quot;Hall of Fame&quot;... ?" CreationDate="2013-10-04T23:30:27.880" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4053" PostId="1384" Score="0" Text="I use the elbow to protect my head from kicks (be careful this can break the opponents ankles) and for punches I just dodge/block them." CreationDate="2013-10-07T03:15:07.630" UserId="108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4054" PostId="1743" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I am very impressed by your blog and all the mind maps you have created.  A definite treasure.  Thanks for sharing." CreationDate="2013-10-08T07:39:11.967" UserId="1393" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4055" PostId="1743" Score="0" Text="@AkosCz Thanks! But to be clear, none of these are my blogs or mind maps; I just collected them here." CreationDate="2013-10-08T08:05:32.753" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4056" PostId="2143" Score="0" Text="+1 for mentioning what the other (non punching) hand is doing - it isn't just &quot;getting ready&quot; as explained in a lot of styles :)" CreationDate="2013-10-09T12:53:12.643" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4057" PostId="437" Score="0" Text="Have you tried one of those door frame pull up bars?  Did you have problems with your doors?  I've been tempted to get one, but the Amazon reviews have been a bit mixed." CreationDate="2013-10-09T16:20:37.360" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4058" PostId="437" Score="1" Text="@TimothyAWiseman: I do indeed have one of those.  They are good provided that (i) your doors are actually well made, and (ii) you are not too heavy." CreationDate="2013-10-10T06:28:44.213" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4059" PostId="2257" Score="2" Text="I would be very interested in this as well. However, advise reading like &quot;block down the pub told me...&quot; is worst than useless, in fact it is dangerous. So **please provide references**.  Thank you." CreationDate="2013-10-10T06:33:07.563" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4060" PostId="2259" Score="0" Text="Thank you for the answer that hits all the components, but can you provide a reference on the plyo's needing squat/power clean preparation? I'm also looking for drills that can be done in the classroom without relying on outside supplementation. I believe there are plyometric based drills/exercises that don't need a significant prep period/routine." CreationDate="2013-10-10T14:32:44.647" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4061" PostId="2259" Score="0" Text="@JohnP Plyo creates a lot of stress; people that are already jumping and leaping around already shouldn't have many problems, but you still need to progress at an appropriate pace." CreationDate="2013-10-10T15:03:47.863" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4062" PostId="2258" Score="0" Text="It's second to specific drills, but arguably more enjoyable overall." CreationDate="2013-10-10T15:04:42.290" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4063" PostId="437" Score="0" Text="Thanks.  What's too heavy?  I'm about 190 right now and targetting 175-180." CreationDate="2013-10-10T15:24:14.503" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4064" PostId="2259" Score="0" Text="@JohnP That was from Kurz. I've seen it repeated elsewhere as 1.5xBW squat, but haven't looked at its origin. I think the point is that prior to that, strength work produces greater explosiveness (as well as other benefits) than specific training for explosiveness such as depth jumps. For general bounding and jumping I wouldn't apply that prereq." CreationDate="2013-10-10T18:09:54.037" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4065" PostId="2258" Score="0" Text="Also, as I stated to Dave, I would prefer drills/exercises that can be done in the dojangh, rather than outside the studio." CreationDate="2013-10-10T21:35:09.723" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4067" PostId="2256" Score="0" Text="Welcome to Martial Arts! Thank you for your answer. The person who asked the question can always change the accepted answer if he/she thinks a new answer is better. Also, you'll find that the more people think your answer is good, the more votes you'll get and the higher your answer is listed on this page. So if you wait a while we will see if people agree with." CreationDate="2013-10-11T07:50:56.843" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4068" PostId="2258" Score="0" Text="Of course, but this way you're free to focus on strategy and not have to get bogged down in tactics." CreationDate="2013-10-11T08:00:46.033" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4069" PostId="437" Score="0" Text="@TimothyAWiseman: Hum, that's not in kilo right?  ^_~  What I meant was too heavy for your door frame. A good door frame should take a normal person. If you are very overweight or muscular, you might find the door frame starts to peel off the wall.  If the wood is of poor quality, you will see the frame digging in. As with any equipment, do inspect it before and after use." CreationDate="2013-10-11T08:11:19.213" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4072" PostId="2256" Score="0" Text="I just happened to find this thread from Stackoverflow in the Programming section. And I saw this thread, and saw that the chosen answer is completely wrong. I just had to correct it even if it's a 4 year old thread." CreationDate="2013-10-11T15:26:42.830" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4073" PostId="432" Score="0" Text="Thank you for finally giving the best and most sound advice on this page. I have espoused for years to my students that there IS a correlation between strength and power in all martial arts. You cannot generate massive power in your punches without sufficient strength. If you put two people in a contest, with the same training and similar quickness/technique the stronger person will have an enormous advantage. I would also state that strength is a critical foundation for Judo, Wrestling, and Ju Jitsu, and no fighter is complete without some basic understanding of these disciplines." CreationDate="2013-10-09T06:45:54.640" UserDisplayName="user1394" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4074" PostId="2085" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Sorry for the late response.  Yeah, mount does score points starting from 10 seconds, as it's a pin. You're right about the locks, but basically any lock allowed in judo can do damage on the shoulder if executed poorly. I'm updating my answer about the mount, I meant you don't get points the same way from it like in BJJ." CreationDate="2013-10-12T09:11:51.340" UserDisplayName="user1221" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4075" PostId="1311" Score="2" Text="@Patricia Here's one to view groundwork as more tiring. Depending on the situation of course. If I know that the opponent is better at ground than in standing position, I'd rather leave the ground." CreationDate="2013-10-12T09:16:50.687" UserDisplayName="user1221" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4077" PostId="2265" Score="1" Text="Ok, so for the hands there is no difference between genders. and it should be on the end of the gi. Do you have a source url for it?" CreationDate="2013-10-14T10:08:47.270" UserId="212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4078" PostId="432" Score="0" Text="Strength is a flawed concept; a catch-all and inexact term that defines a particular muscle groups capability to produce work. The correlation between an arms capability to produce work and the overall power behind a punch for an average man reduces down to single-digit percentages. Relying on strength alone puts your 4.8% (assuming you're average) against an adept trainee's 80% using the majority of body mass. Maintaining overall fitness is good, but there are better total-body exercises (swimming and gymnastics, for instance) that can improve application better than pushups." CreationDate="2013-10-14T14:23:36.730" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4079" PostId="2257" Score="1" Text="Consider a seminar with a dance instructor to introduce fundamental exercises and techniques of ballet, which will improve dynamic balance, static balance, and footwork." CreationDate="2013-10-14T14:27:41.043" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4080" PostId="2257" Score="0" Text="@stslavik - I took ballet as part of my kinesiology degree, and my wife is an Irish dance teacher. Agreed, ballet and dance in general are good for balance and proprioceptive training." CreationDate="2013-10-14T14:48:09.507" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4081" PostId="2257" Score="0" Text="Then you're perfectly equipped. Have at it. :)" CreationDate="2013-10-14T15:00:31.240" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4082" PostId="2262" Score="0" Text="why the heart beat monitor?" CreationDate="2013-10-15T00:05:00.553" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4083" PostId="2206" Score="0" Text="Sure, a brick *can* be thrown. It also *can* be unwieldy, and therefore miss the intended target. There's nothing to this answer that offers the least bit of rational explanation making &quot;throwing a brick&quot; a decent self-defense strategy." CreationDate="2013-10-15T13:36:34.607" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4084" PostId="2265" Score="0" Text="These are the traditional rules, but the rules may vary depending on the dojo. Some dojo's decided to modernize and have their own greeting, but in the dojo I train we honour the traditional rules." CreationDate="2013-10-15T13:37:46.173" UserId="1397" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4085" PostId="2260" Score="0" Text="It's arbitrary to say that training three times a week is the minimum for satisfactory progress. Satisfactory itself is an arbitrary estimation. When it comes down to training, it's not how often you train, but how perfectly you train with the time you have." CreationDate="2013-10-15T13:40:20.800" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4086" PostId="2260" Score="1" Text="I do realize that making the best of your time is very important but frequency is also required, which I am not satisfied with. I am sure you train more than thrice or at least want to :)" CreationDate="2013-10-15T13:46:22.877" UserId="248" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4087" PostId="2265" Score="1" Text="The reason for modernizing the greeting is because the Seiza is mostly uncomfortable for European/American practitioners, since they are often not used to the Seiza since young ages. This means that their joints are not flexible enough to sit correctly. The reason for the difference between man and woman in modern European/American practitioners regarding the closing of the legs is because Europe and America are more set on seperating male and female. This has been the case for many things. In Japan however, you are treated the same in martial arts since a student is a student." CreationDate="2013-10-15T13:49:32.443" UserId="1397" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4088" PostId="2260" Score="0" Text="If you internalize one lesson a week, allow it to change how you behave, how you move, and how you interact with the world, one lesson is all you need. If you take three lessons, but do not internalize them, do not move your life with them, then you will exhaust yourself and fail. Your work is to find your work, and having found it, give your life to it." CreationDate="2013-10-15T14:00:09.700" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4089" PostId="2266" Score="2" Text="-1. First and second paragraphs are utterly inaccurate. Last paragraph shows an fundamental lack of knowledge of crime, witnesses, or any legal system." CreationDate="2013-10-15T15:56:01.770" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4091" PostId="2206" Score="0" Text="It is much more practical than what you suggested." CreationDate="2013-10-15T16:45:42.920" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4092" PostId="2260" Score="3" Text="I, too, have found that three times a week is the minimum for satisfactory athletic progress in a combat sport. My judo coach agrees, saying that 2 times a week merely maintains. One lesson a week is really, really, really not helpful to getting better at a physical skill. If you're not interested in improving your physical skill, that's no trouble, but for athletes looking to improve, 3x/week is absolutely a minimum and more work produces more results." CreationDate="2013-10-16T05:49:22.603" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4093" PostId="2256" Score="1" Text="I completely agree with this. In our dojo we learn to throw using technique, and we test this by throwing someone twice our size or twice our weight. When you use the right technique you'll have no trouble throwing a way larger person at all. I am 6'2&quot; and I weigh 59 kilograms. Using the technique I was taught I easily throw someone of 6'11&quot; weighing more than 100 kilograms. And I don't feel it in my legs at all." CreationDate="2013-10-16T13:28:28.047" UserId="1397" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4095" PostId="2270" Score="1" Text="It is interesting. You would need to be a little careful, because ALL conflicts could be traced back to deciding to leave the house. I would think that a lot of scenario roleplaying would be useful, such as &quot;You go to a bar with friends, and accidentally spill a belligerent drunk's beer.&quot; Obviously the guy is going to want to make an issue of it, how do you deflect that?" CreationDate="2013-10-16T16:24:57.423" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4096" PostId="2271" Score="0" Text="I am not so happy about the end of this answer... Not quite on the mark... Hum." CreationDate="2013-10-16T16:34:10.333" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4097" PostId="1919" Score="2" Text="Remember the joke about the man who represents himself has a fool for a lawyer?  If you take legal advice from random people on the internet, then you could learn a lesson from the man who has a fool for a lawyer." CreationDate="2013-10-17T11:15:13.493" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4098" PostId="2271" Score="0" Text="Unfortunately, I feel like you hit home on what we already teach, but think that you're telling me about the why... There's no why here: crime exists, conflict exists, therefore we train to protect ourselves from it when it touches us. The point I'm trying to teach is to show them how the choices they make land them in the situations long before it becomes evidently dangerous." CreationDate="2013-10-17T15:15:31.530" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4099" PostId="2272" Score="0" Text="I'm ultimately not of the mind that I can teach everyone the means to prevent their own conflicts, but rather a means to understand how their actions can put them into those situations. While chaos theory may have it that everything is continuously pushed toward a yet greater state of entropy, it would seem that still the means that bring us to chaos are far more organized in retrospect. Can then an understanding of how A indicates B teach us the means of preventing escalating chaos at least on this small scale? *Why bother*: Why do we bother teaching martial arts? Increasing odds. Good answer" CreationDate="2013-10-17T15:27:23.620" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4100" PostId="2270" Score="0" Text="False premise; it relies on the presupposition that leaving the house **means** being attacked (Barring Albanian *Gjakmarrja* under *Kanuni i Lekë Dukagjinit*). However, it could be argued that events outside an individuals control (Aggressor is laid off from their job) could put them in the wrong place at the wrong time. In the case of the belligerent, we can argue, though, that avoiding street bars (as opposed to the bar in a hotel or restaurant in which the decorum differs) decreases the likelihood of belligerents, and attention to ones surroundings would prevent spilling beer." CreationDate="2013-10-17T15:42:58.183" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4101" PostId="2270" Score="1" Text="True, but that presupposes that you never go anywhere where anyone might be having a bad day, ready to take offense at anything, etc. Which, could be traced back to &quot;If you didn't leave the house to get on the subway where you bumped a guy that got pissed off&quot;. It is definitely reductio ad absurdum, but that's why I detailed it as you'd have to situation roleplay it. Such as...you and a friend go out for a pint to see the local team play on telly. You turn and accidentally bump a guy, spilling his beer, and he gets all worked up. Defuse it. Drunks will happen even in &quot;high class&quot; places." CreationDate="2013-10-17T16:31:34.647" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4102" PostId="2271" Score="0" Text="@stslavik: Not quiet.  What I am driving at is that most people (including instructors) have no idea what conflict is, how it arises, and what it entrails.  Therefore they spew and teach rubbish based on false assumptions." CreationDate="2013-10-17T17:57:32.557" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4103" PostId="2275" Score="1" Text="-1.  The urban legend of never washing your belt is utter rubbish." CreationDate="2013-10-18T09:22:32.507" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4104" PostId="2275" Score="2" Text="Lol! it was quoted from the linked pdf and even the author said it was fake, so why the -1?" CreationDate="2013-10-18T09:34:40.120" UserId="212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4105" PostId="2275" Score="1" Text="It is neither a &quot;nice story&quot; nor is it probably fake.  It is utter rubbish." CreationDate="2013-10-18T10:30:05.440" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4106" PostId="391" Score="0" Text="@Btuman you would be disqualified and when answering a question about a martial art, one must consider answering it within the scope of that martial art, NOT street fighting. The site isn't called street fighting and the tag is [tag:brazilian-jiu-jitsu]" CreationDate="2013-10-18T11:58:05.380" UserDisplayName="user6827" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4107" PostId="2277" Score="1" Text="Welcome to the site.  Good question and answer!" CreationDate="2013-10-18T12:55:40.663" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4108" PostId="2277" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion ty I am active on other betas, my children train BJJ 5-6 days a week and my oldest is a full-time coach and trains.. We were having a discussion about belts in the car on the way home from BJJ yesterday :) It's such a great martial art. They've all competed. We are in Australia." CreationDate="2013-10-18T12:57:46.167" UserDisplayName="user6827" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4109" PostId="391" Score="0" Text="@Skippy, if you read the thread you will see that the question was edited after I answered. &#xA;Also, I have learned both these techniques within a martian arts context from martial arts practitioners and instructors. Cheers" CreationDate="2013-10-18T15:39:13.183" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4110" PostId="391" Score="1" Text="@Btuman I understand the question was edited, but I am saying it should go without saying on site like this, if the Q is tagged with a martial art, then one would be asking within the scope of that martial art.. I am saying this to help you with your posts on [se], as I have been around here for a while (not on [martialarts.se] on [se]" CreationDate="2013-10-18T15:43:31.650" UserDisplayName="user6827" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4112" PostId="391" Score="0" Text="@Skippy, The &quot;only in art&quot; answer is one way to go about it, but I disagree that that was the only valid assumption based on the pre-edit question, tag or no. :) Cheers" CreationDate="2013-10-18T16:03:30.370" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4113" PostId="391" Score="0" Text="http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/139/are-we-going-to-enforce-same-style-answers/141#141" CreationDate="2013-10-18T16:04:53.737" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4114" PostId="391" Score="0" Text="@Btuman seriously, I am really NOT interested in debating this. So please stop pinging me. All that needed to be said has been said. You are talking outside of your experience, THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE BJJ.. look at the votes. I am not returning to your pings on this, I am busy with a few things on [se] http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/44686/pets Came here to support the Beta." CreationDate="2013-10-18T16:09:00.523" UserDisplayName="user6827" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4115" PostId="2271" Score="0" Text="I think this is a great answer other than &quot;to look good&quot; part.  Was that supposed to be sarcasm/humor?" CreationDate="2013-10-18T18:11:26.767" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4116" PostId="2279" Score="0" Text="Where in a muscle is the memory located?" CreationDate="2013-10-19T01:14:52.237" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4117" PostId="2271" Score="1" Text="@TimothyAWiseman: Humour mostly.  It's a good way to remember good posture. ^_~" CreationDate="2013-10-19T17:24:04.040" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4118" PostId="1219" Score="0" Text="[This round-table of muay Thai fighters discussing their views of TKD](http://taekwondousa.blogspot.com/2013/10/what-muay-thai-fighters-think-of.html) is somewhat relevant." CreationDate="2013-10-19T19:24:40.937" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4119" PostId="2279" Score="0" Text="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_memory" CreationDate="2013-10-20T03:49:42.437" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4120" PostId="2279" Score="1" Text="Yes, I'm aware of what muscle memory is. I was being sarcastic, as I hear inaccurate terms like that and &quot;muscle confusion&quot; being tossed around all the time. If you have &quot;muscle memory confusion&quot;, that just means you are trying to do the techniques too soon without thinking about them. Your muscles don't get &quot;confused&quot;, you just send them the improper signals by not thinking about what you are doing." CreationDate="2013-10-20T20:07:08.427" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4121" PostId="2266" Score="0" Text="Krav Maga is based on Ninjutsu, actually. Which is an art of assassination and infiltration." CreationDate="2013-10-21T10:27:52.957" UserId="1397" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4122" PostId="2013" Score="1" Text="Some BJJ schools focus on takedowns and other's don't seem to, I think it's important to find a school that is a good fit for you and to ask about the principles behind their teaching methods, as any reputable gym will have clear ideas behind their teaching methods.. BJJ is a bit like judo on the ground or judo a bit like bjj stadning up ;)" CreationDate="2013-10-21T11:39:16.937" UserDisplayName="user6827" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4123" PostId="2018" Score="1" Text="You can lose points for sitting on your butt, even if your opponent doesn't touch you. Unless you're pulling guard when your butt hits the floor, or very soon after, 2 points to your opponent" CreationDate="2013-10-21T11:41:54.887" UserDisplayName="user6827" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4124" PostId="1322" Score="0" Text="My daughter is very good at the bridge and roll, she manages to preserve her energy and time it well. (proud Mum  :-)" CreationDate="2013-10-21T11:44:26.673" UserDisplayName="user6827" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4125" PostId="2123" Score="0" Text="I have seen people so flexible they can reach around with their legs.. not always a good thing to teach, but amazing to watch" CreationDate="2013-10-21T11:45:50.397" UserDisplayName="user6827" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4126" PostId="1803" Score="2" Text="I agree with the others, if you can increase to three, it would be optimal. If you want to compete, 5-6 days a week." CreationDate="2013-10-21T11:47:52.340" UserDisplayName="user6827" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4127" PostId="2266" Score="2" Text="*Your opinions on this are very wrong*. Krav Maga is **not** based on Ninjutsu but on boxing, Muay Thai, Wing Chun, Judo, jiu-jitsu, wrestling, and grappling to name but a few.  Ninjutsu is **not** the art of assassination.  None of the Ninja Jūhakkei (&quot;the eighteen disciplines&quot;) mention assassination." CreationDate="2013-10-21T12:03:49.273" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4128" PostId="2284" Score="5" Text="This is unlikely, as the forehead is one of the hardest parts of the skull, and is designed to absorb impact. The forehead itself becomes a weapon when you are talking about headbutts, so the idea that it is the best place to strike is a little unlikely." CreationDate="2013-10-21T20:48:02.323" UserId="1076" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4129" PostId="2286" Score="0" Text="I am afraid that this question has too many problems. The term &quot;most effective&quot; is highly subjective and has not been defined.  Your three categories of position in a fight are candid at best.  You ask a question and give the answer at the same time thus inviting discussion/argumentation. This question needs serious work before it is even remotely suitable." CreationDate="2013-10-22T07:38:07.390" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4130" PostId="2287" Score="0" Text="Actually, both of you are far off.  The most effective martial art is gun fighting: easy to train, effective at a distance, and far more likely to make your attacker flee without resourcing to a fight... ^_~" CreationDate="2013-10-22T07:58:19.833" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4131" PostId="2286" Score="1" Text="While I do think some excellent answers can be generated by this question, it is entirely too broad and subject to opinion (e.g. it is impossible to provide definitive studies/facts/statistics/etc to validate the answer). This is exactly the sort of question that is to be avoided. If you want you can still edit this and ask for it to be considered for reopening, or you could ask a new but far more tightly constrained question." CreationDate="2013-10-22T08:55:48.263" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4132" PostId="2266" Score="0" Text="I guess I'll just stick to Judo answers xS" CreationDate="2013-10-22T09:03:46.673" UserId="1397" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4133" PostId="242" Score="0" Text="it's a good idea to watch some of the lids classes.. It's amazing to see these small critters holding on with their legs.. it might give you some strategies, as they've learnt to adapt this from being way short.. :)" CreationDate="2013-10-22T13:33:04.447" UserDisplayName="user6827" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4134" PostId="771" Score="0" Text="training dummies are great.. I can even cope when the gym names their dummy &quot;Brian'.. it's difficult to cope when people say they're going to visit &quot;Brian&quot; ;)" CreationDate="2013-10-22T13:34:51.257" UserDisplayName="user6827" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4135" PostId="2286" Score="1" Text="This could be an interest question if you narrow what you mean by &quot;effective&quot;.  Effective for MMA is different from effective for self defense which is different from controlling someone without doing serious harm the way a police officer or bouncer would want to.  They overlap somewhat of course, but they are different." CreationDate="2013-10-22T16:46:43.343" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4136" PostId="2288" Score="2" Text="I'm sure that it's hard for any martial artist to fight more then 1 opponent at the same time. Correct me if I'm wrong." CreationDate="2013-10-23T06:08:07.177" UserId="500" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4137" PostId="2286" Score="2" Text="Even with the edit, I am afraid that this remains a bad question: (i) street fighting generally involves weapons, (ii) street fights are rarely one on one, (iii) the three position types remain candid at best, (iv) you still *give your answer to your question* thus inviting arguments, (v) &quot;most effective&quot; is ill defined and primary opinion based. I feel that you are either trying to troll or that there is a more fundamental question you have.  I hope and assume the latter: **what is the problem this question is trying to solve?**" CreationDate="2013-10-23T07:26:23.757" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4138" PostId="2286" Score="0" Text="BTW, please take my comments in the best possible helpful light you can shine of it.  They are meant that way, even if they do not read that way... ^_~" CreationDate="2013-10-23T07:27:57.670" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4139" PostId="2288" Score="1" Text="Sure, but striking arts make it much more practical." CreationDate="2013-10-23T07:30:24.837" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4140" PostId="2270" Score="0" Text="You're right, it is *reductio ad absurdum*. Again, however, even in this, you illustrate my premise: your inattention caused you to bump the guy's beer, not your leaving the house. Statistically, the likelihood of violence is higher in the corner pub in a blue collar neighborhood than in a restaurant bar in an affluent neighborhood. If you're a sloppy person, you've created the situation. If you have a moment of care and attention, recognizing the causality of your actions, you avoid the trigger. A person getting into their car is not the trigger for an accident, but focusing on a text may be." CreationDate="2013-10-23T14:04:01.690" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4141" PostId="2287" Score="1" Text="*Reductio ad absurdum* – Physics = ultimate martial art ;)" CreationDate="2013-10-23T14:08:29.990" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4142" PostId="2288" Score="2" Text="*Training* makes it much more practical. BJJ can be applied quite well against multiple opponents if the practitioner avoids getting tied up on the ground." CreationDate="2013-10-23T14:09:32.967" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4143" PostId="2204" Score="1" Text="Looking for an answer drawing from credible and/or official sources? [Understood!](http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/rocket-propelled-chainsaw)" CreationDate="2013-10-23T14:24:44.077" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4144" PostId="2270" Score="0" Text="You're proposing an impossibility. You are eliminating all possibility of an accident." CreationDate="2013-10-23T14:32:29.860" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4145" PostId="2286" Score="2" Text="@Sardathrion I agree, but I think it has moved closer to a good question.  If rephrased to something like &quot;a 1-v-1 fight in urban environment and no weapons&quot; we would have a legitimate question (I don't know what the answer would be or why you would want to ask that question, but it would be a valid question).  If changed to &quot;for MMA style rules&quot; we could probably answer empirically by looking at the history of PRIDE and UFC." CreationDate="2013-10-23T18:29:55.630" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4148" PostId="2286" Score="1" Text="Is your question *What is the best martial art or arts that one needs to know to survive street fights?*...  If it is, I have a good answer for you." CreationDate="2013-10-24T12:59:23.643" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4149" PostId="2286" Score="0" Text="I'm sure my question is clear enough. Or do you still need me to update it?" CreationDate="2013-10-24T13:08:50.117" UserId="500" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4150" PostId="2286" Score="0" Text="I still think it is a bad question for all the points I raised before..." CreationDate="2013-10-24T14:33:13.670" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4151" PostId="2270" Score="0" Text="I'm saying that what you're proposing is that there's such a thing as an accident – a random chance of events coinciding to bring together two creatures with free will and rational minds into a position in which neither one has a choice but for the improbable to occur. People make choices that lead to events: a choice to not look about them, for instance. So yes, I'm eliminating that possibility because there's no such thing as accidents – someone is responsible. This, then, is not an impossibility; if anything it may be an improbability." CreationDate="2013-10-24T15:06:05.587" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4152" PostId="2286" Score="0" Text="Perhaps instead the question could be reworked. Since the OP proposes that there are only a few styles in which he's interested (Muay Thai, Boxing, Wrestling [Greco-Roman? Catch? Jello?], and BJJ [Grappling being too broad a term]), perhaps the question could be asked of how each art could individually be applied in response to a theoretical street fight application. This then would rely on the answerers practical knowledge of any/all such arts and their capability to respond, then the determination of which is &quot;best&quot; (best fits his needs) could be left to the OP." CreationDate="2013-10-24T15:12:15.740" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4153" PostId="2270" Score="1" Text="It is an impossibility to prevent every occurrence that could possibly upset someone to the point of provocation. To believe otherwise is just putting your head in the sand." CreationDate="2013-10-24T16:32:18.573" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4154" PostId="2307" Score="0" Text="Also, traditional Aikido has white and black belts." CreationDate="2013-10-24T19:17:44.450" UserId="1425" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4155" PostId="2270" Score="0" Text="@JohnP I think you need to look up the definition of impossibility and how it differs from improbability. We make it through our lives daily without upsetting others but without realizing the importance of our decisions in making that happen. We're talking about the foresight to control our actions that lead to high-probabilities of violence." CreationDate="2013-10-25T13:47:53.823" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4156" PostId="2286" Score="0" Text="@stslavik: perhaps although this could end up as a hundred questions of the format: *How does X martial art deal with street fights*. Not necessary a bad thing but..." CreationDate="2013-10-25T14:05:33.800" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4157" PostId="2286" Score="0" Text="True; I don't mean though to imply asking &quot;how to deal with street-fights&quot; but rather a more specific and practical scenario. We have dealt in the past with [a theoretical scenario involving multiple attackers](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/1905/choosing-a-target-when-cornered-by-multiple-attackers/1944#1944) by focusing the scenario into something manageable. This could potentially be redirected into something equally manageable." CreationDate="2013-10-25T15:19:09.880" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4158" PostId="2288" Score="1" Text="The one issue with MMA is that is often optimized for sport." CreationDate="2013-10-25T15:19:44.677" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4159" PostId="2286" Score="1" Text="Its interesting that  Krav Maga has not been mentioned at all." CreationDate="2013-10-25T15:22:12.063" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4160" PostId="1321" Score="0" Text="Well it is a good thing you want to know well I suggest you to see some good techniques over here http://www.judo.com.gr/techniques/ and find the solution for your child." CreationDate="2013-10-23T17:39:37.803" UserDisplayName="user1422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4161" PostId="512" Score="0" Text="I heard a story from my previous Sensei who taught karate : white represents seed below the snow in winter, green is a plant sprouting in spring, blue is the plant reaching for the sky and so on.  (till the bark hardness from brown to black)" CreationDate="2013-10-26T08:06:22.423" UserId="108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4162" PostId="2287" Score="0" Text="Good answer! I don't like how you oppose &quot;hard-sparring&quot; and &quot;non-competitive&quot;, though. Can't you spar often and hard without participating in organized competitions?" CreationDate="2013-10-26T15:16:08.060" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4163" PostId="2287" Score="0" Text="@Dungarth Sure. It's uncommon, though, and leaves the many benefits of organized competition. But I'm not sure what you have in mind." CreationDate="2013-10-26T18:49:10.717" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4164" PostId="2287" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann - I'm just wondering, really. Wouldn't focusing on competition orient the combat system towards moves and techniques that are efficient in scoring points more that they are at saving your hide in an actual fight? I'm not saying it's bad, though, I'm just genuinely curious about what you guys think about this. Because I don't think non-competitive should automatically mean no sparring either." CreationDate="2013-10-27T02:12:11.730" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4165" PostId="2287" Score="1" Text="@Dungarth First, there's a good full-fledged question in your comments here, but I don't know what it is. :) Second, over-optimization to a sport ruleset is always a factor, but as I said in the answer, the reason combat sports repeatedly produce better fighters is that they produce athletes who are well-trained in actually executing techniques on fully resisting opponents who are trying to do the same to them." CreationDate="2013-10-27T07:24:51.493" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4166" PostId="2287" Score="0" Text="It might be a little more street-y to add a chin-push or palm strike to osotogari, but the competition judoka specializing in osotogari without the chin push is going to execute that move faster, harder, with more balance and control, and more effectively in a self-defense scenario than the &quot;street-oriented&quot; martial artist who practices the chin push version--and even spars!--but doesn't compete or use the chin push in sparring. ([Neil Ohlenkamp writes about this eloquently](http://www.judoinfo.com/sport.htm).)" CreationDate="2013-10-27T07:33:17.377" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4167" PostId="2287" Score="0" Text="And of course non-competitive doesn't *necessarily* mean no sparring, but it often does, and even when it doesn't, the sparring in non-competitive arts is usually less (not more) oriented towards self-defense. (Fewer techniques, less contact, fewer ranges of combat.) There are always exceptions, but if I train competitive boxing I'm pretty sure I'm going to get good at punching people, taking punches, and not getting punched. I can't say that for the average, say, wing chun school, where they might drill eye pokes (slowly) but which probably doesn't spar beyond *chi sao*." CreationDate="2013-10-27T07:49:48.337" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4168" PostId="2287" Score="0" Text="Those are really good arguments, but I can't find myself agreeing to all of them... Probably because you can't expand on them too extensively in the comments... But I'll figure out the good question hidden in here and ask it tomorrow night when I get back from work!" CreationDate="2013-10-27T14:43:55.193" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4169" PostId="2313" Score="3" Text="This question appears to be off-topic because it has nothing to do with martial arts." CreationDate="2013-10-28T08:02:08.813" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4170" PostId="2313" Score="3" Text="Second. If it's your assertion this is martial arts related, please post a video, and why you feel this is on topic (how it relates to martial arts)." CreationDate="2013-10-28T13:11:24.213" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4171" PostId="2287" Score="0" Text="Arguably, @DaveLiepmann, you're not talking about stylistic differences (Competitive BJJ is better than Wing Chun), but rather the dependency is the instruction quality itself. If the instructor emphasizes quality live sparring, whether openly competitive (participating in competitions between schools), regardless of art, then they meet your criteria. Therefore, if I'm teaching Aikido with the emphasis on training self defense and encourage students to beat the everloving crap out of each other in randori (full commitment even when attacking with other styles), the training is quality." CreationDate="2013-10-28T13:21:01.353" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4172" PostId="2287" Score="0" Text="@stslavik The &quot;it's all about the instructor&quot; argument, while technically true, is almost entirely useless. Styles have tendencies. 99% of Bujinkan schools don't train or spar full contact the way 99% of competitive boxing schools do. It beggars belief to say that an aikido school is remotely similar to an MMA school when it comes to sparring: literally one in a thousand aikido schools wrestles or spars the way nearly every BJJ school does." CreationDate="2013-10-28T13:29:03.530" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4173" PostId="2287" Score="0" Text="@stslavik Is there a way to phrase this &quot;it's all the instructor&quot; that could turn this into a question for a more robust elucidation of the topic?" CreationDate="2013-10-28T13:29:55.910" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4174" PostId="2312" Score="2" Text="Hi, and welcome to the site. Your answer seems like it could be a little more detailed, perhaps with some references. For instance, hand gestures all have some origin; the western handshake may be traced back to warrior cultures, in fact showing up as a terminus for the initiation rights of the Mithraic Mysteries. Rituals all have meaning; sharing their history can better help us to understand from where our arts come." CreationDate="2013-10-28T13:33:42.733" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4175" PostId="2287" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann by that token, the tendencies of 99% of BJJ instruction are aimed toward winning competition; there is no thought for breaking the joint or bone and moving away, but rather submitting one opponent. This isn't self-defense, it's delusion. But for that 1% that teaches how to lift the hips and bring the arm to the side just a little... As for phrasing, I already proposed one way to rephrase to reopen. I only proposed the instructor comment as a corollary to your usual answer." CreationDate="2013-10-28T13:42:28.860" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4176" PostId="2287" Score="0" Text="@stslavik I didn't mean rephrasing this question, I meant rephrasing this whole instructor-versus-style discussion. As for 99% of BJJ being competition, the idea that BJJ practitioners don't know how to lift the hips to break the elbow is...interesting...perhaps you should investigate Rener Gracie, or any of the many BJJ-for-MMA instructors?" CreationDate="2013-10-28T14:29:59.830" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4177" PostId="2313" Score="0" Text="As I said below, he is referring to an Escrima/Kali drill, which should qualify it as martial arts related." CreationDate="2013-10-28T16:19:20.267" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4178" PostId="2256" Score="0" Text="&quot;To thow your opponent harder, decrease momentum while your opponent is falling&quot;. I don't think everyone understands what she means by this. It's the same as the whiplash effect. You move the whip up, and pull it back down rapidly, creating a strong whiplash. The same happens in Judo. When your opponent is near the ground, you pull him back and he hits the ground like a whiplash. This doesn't require any strength since you simply rotate his body to create the whiplash. That's redirection, not use of force." CreationDate="2013-10-29T11:19:47.320" UserId="1397" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4179" PostId="2316" Score="4" Text="-1, this reads like incoherent ranting...  What is your point?" CreationDate="2013-10-29T12:05:56.437" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4180" PostId="2316" Score="0" Text="I read this in an aussie accent, it was thus enhanced. Im my case I am actually not seeking to train a striking art and a grappling art. I am going for MMA and SCA sword-fighting (which will be supplemented with historical German long-sword classes by the translator of one of the manuals)" CreationDate="2013-10-29T13:24:13.917" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4181" PostId="2287" Score="0" Text="It's not a matter of knowing, but rather curricula; your implication regarding Bujinkan is equally imprecise. That is, the logic is flawed. Regarding turning &quot;its all the instructor&quot; into an alternatively phrased question, that's better taken to meta it would seem." CreationDate="2013-10-29T14:28:48.353" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4182" PostId="2313" Score="0" Text="@JuannStrauss there is no evidence of that. Barring an example, are we to simply take your word on it?" CreationDate="2013-10-29T14:29:58.063" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4183" PostId="2314" Score="1" Text="It's painful how inappropriate it would be to -1 this for using Rick Tew as a paragon for any answer. Anybody else remember Tew-ryu?" CreationDate="2013-10-29T14:31:58.510" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4184" PostId="2287" Score="0" Text="Even in a non-sport art, how would one spar techniques that would harm other students when preformed? Isn't there a similar danger for a student learning to stop right before completing any dangerous technique? &#xA;The one advantage I can think of might come from learning to defend against attacks that would appear on the street, but never on the mat." CreationDate="2013-10-29T15:06:35.053" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4185" PostId="2287" Score="2" Text="@Btuman See the Neil Ohlenkamp link I posted above, or [this answer](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/858/347). I am convinced of the evidence that allocating the majority of one's training towards becoming an athlete and sparring with as many sparring-safe techniques as possible is superior to not sparring or sparring with highly restrictive rulesets (e.g. only light or slow sparring) and not becoming an athlete." CreationDate="2013-10-29T15:25:01.507" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4186" PostId="2313" Score="0" Text="1. Watch the Youtube videos I linked. 2. Watch the relevant MythBusters episode." CreationDate="2013-10-29T16:38:05.320" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4187" PostId="2314" Score="0" Text="Which is why I said &quot;The guy in the below video is full of it&quot; and added an actual Escrima video too ;)" CreationDate="2013-10-29T16:39:12.953" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4188" PostId="2316" Score="0" Text="I have merely made comment on the mixing of different martial arts, to answer the OP's question, and the statements by way of answers from other contributors.To the great Btuman what is MMA if it does not involve 'striking art' and 'grappling art'?" CreationDate="2013-10-30T03:38:31.647" UserId="1431" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4189" PostId="2316" Score="0" Text="The differnce is that in MMA, they are taught as a single system, they work from the same stance (or the stances are connected in training), the moves are trained in connection with each other, ect." CreationDate="2013-10-31T18:26:56.217" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4190" PostId="2316" Score="0" Text="If, as you say, they are indeed taught as a single system, it actually validates my point that 'striking' and 'grappling' are indeed involved in MMA training. This statement also validates my comment, by way of answer to you, that The future comes soon where all 'ways' - 'schools' 'styles' and 'systems will blend once more into the one true way of the MARTIAL ARTS !!!! It seems great Btuman that the future is now. I too have always trained MMA - Karate - Balisong - Arnis de Mano - Mano y Mano - Ju Jitsu - Kenbo - Bo - Jo - Dulo - Tai Chi. These allowed me to be a 'complete' martial artist." CreationDate="2013-11-01T05:48:16.573" UserId="1431" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4191" PostId="2144" Score="0" Text="Yes martial art always good to building self confidence." CreationDate="2013-11-01T07:59:25.720" UserDisplayName="user1422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4199" PostId="2332" Score="0" Text="-1, Jedi training only works in the Star Wars universe..." CreationDate="2013-11-04T12:37:24.483" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4200" PostId="2334" Score="2" Text="A long sharp knife is best. Also steel-toed boots for kicking out their teeth." CreationDate="2013-11-04T13:41:12.040" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4201" PostId="2334" Score="1" Text="Armed or unarmed?" CreationDate="2013-11-04T15:45:58.613" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4202" PostId="193" Score="0" Text="I found HipHop classes helped my Taekwondo tremendously." CreationDate="2013-11-04T17:41:41.547" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4207" PostId="2331" Score="4" Text="please consider updating your answer to address the question above. You are going off on a tangent here on the technique and execution without explaining what the advantages (or disadvantages are) for using a vertical fist." CreationDate="2013-11-04T21:02:37.800" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4210" PostId="1835" Score="0" Text="You can practice taichi.. for immidiate relaxation... it relax entire body and mind.. if u do it correctly." CreationDate="2013-11-04T01:42:09.027" UserId="1335" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4211" PostId="466" Score="0" Text="I think You should start from taichi... it will build your balance of body and smooth and accurate movement of your body..." CreationDate="2013-11-04T01:38:57.953" UserId="1335" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4212" PostId="2340" Score="0" Text="Actually, half guard is my favourite ground situation, as I've a few methods for getting my leg free, and I'm pretty good with udegarami. I'm not into chokes, as I'm simply not good with them, some basic bow &amp; arrow and rear naked chokes are what I can do." CreationDate="2013-11-06T06:16:14.137" UserDisplayName="user1221" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4213" PostId="2339" Score="0" Text="I've learnt how to get away from jujigatame, but chokes are the ones I simply can't defend. For example, triangle choke or bow &amp; arrow. In these cases, it's only a matter of luck if I can get away." CreationDate="2013-11-06T06:18:23.147" UserDisplayName="user1221" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4214" PostId="2339" Score="1" Text="When a choke is performed correctly, it's pretty much impossible to get out of it with anything other than pure strength. Best way to defend against them is to put your chin on your throat." CreationDate="2013-11-06T08:57:57.517" UserId="1397" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4215" PostId="2339" Score="0" Text="@MilanSxD I know, but in most of my cases, it's not perfect, and possibly to get out, if I knew how to do that." CreationDate="2013-11-06T09:07:08.820" UserDisplayName="user1221" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4216" PostId="2339" Score="0" Text="If it's not perfect you can try slipping your hands through his arms, or the parts he's using to strangle you. From there on out you can widen your elbows and use your own arms like a crowbar to loosen his grip." CreationDate="2013-11-06T09:11:19.557" UserId="1397" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4217" PostId="2339" Score="0" Text="@Christian - Even chokes have escape methods, but yes, they are very difficult, and are often hard on the neck, ears, and/or face. That's why you have to learn to see and stop them before they're applied. And frankly, you can never do that if you're lying face-down. Not to mention that lying face down invites any number of from-behind chokes in any situation where it's fair game." CreationDate="2013-11-06T12:30:41.217" UserId="341" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4218" PostId="2339" Score="0" Text="@Shauna Or any other kind of attacks. I'd rather keep my ribs intact :)" CreationDate="2013-11-06T18:09:54.973" UserDisplayName="user1221" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4222" PostId="2341" Score="14" Text="*&quot;how to approach their training without inevitably treating them like the countless Marines I have trained&quot;* - you are making the assumption that **you** are the right trainer for **them**. You may be better off just sending them to someone else to train (and be prepared for the possibility that they may not train for long before losing interest)." CreationDate="2013-11-07T12:33:55.603" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4223" PostId="2341" Score="1" Text="@slugster - That comment deserves to be an answer, if for no other reason than the assertion that he may not be the best trainer for them." CreationDate="2013-11-07T14:30:44.627" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4225" PostId="2341" Score="0" Text="@slugster, actually I am not, I think I have been clear that I DO NO perceived myself at the best trainer, hence why I am asking for input." CreationDate="2013-11-07T20:38:16.297" UserId="1439" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4226" PostId="2341" Score="2" Text="@JohnP, I have been clear that my perspective on combat makes me terrible for training them, that's why I don't want to become the reason they are turned off and looking for outside help." CreationDate="2013-11-07T20:39:37.930" UserId="1439" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4227" PostId="2342" Score="0" Text="Believe me brother I know what you mean by unicorn, hence why I reached out. My goals is for them to never be a victim, to know how to stand their ground with just about anyone they encounter, short of someone like myself being their opponent, in which case they are screwed. This sounds terrible but they want to be like hubby/daddy - badass (their words) and to earn the respect of being a Marine's daughter/wife. They know they will never be solider level but they want to be able to never be a victim or at least give as good as they get, preferably better." CreationDate="2013-11-07T20:42:58.623" UserId="1439" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4228" PostId="2341" Score="1" Text="@GµårÐïåñ Good on you. I remember when my wife was in the beginner classes I was teaching at the time, it wasn't the best mix :)" CreationDate="2013-11-07T20:45:23.067" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4229" PostId="2342" Score="0" Text="My immediate goals are: deal with a perp that has a knife, gun, or just physical force. Not necessary stay and fight it all the way but disable and disarm long enough to get out of dodge without being pursued. I have taught them basic effective throat jab, palm to nose/face, inner knees and a few other pressure and weak points but as we all know the size and aggressiveness of the perp will make some of them out of their reach. I am not looker to make them killer ninjas as much as I would love it, just well trained defenders of their self and others." CreationDate="2013-11-07T20:47:00.253" UserId="1439" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4230" PostId="2345" Score="1" Text="I actually considered that, I have several friends who practice (I learned mine in joint training operations with Mossad) but you are right, I have seen success with it being used with novices. +1 in consideration to do it. Thanks." CreationDate="2013-11-07T20:50:18.103" UserId="1439" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4231" PostId="2343" Score="0" Text="I am sorry if I left that out. I included it in the comments above when asked. But they WANT IT, more than anything and they want ME to teach them but I find a little bit into it I get the feeling that I am &quot;not right for this&quot; for lack of a better word, I guess why surgeons don't operate on family, what if I hurt them, what if they get the wrong idea, what if they resent it. I want them pushed to the level THEY are comfortable with and not what I might want them to become, so I am totally supportive and not demanding or even pushing this, its all them." CreationDate="2013-11-07T20:52:47.303" UserId="1439" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4232" PostId="2341" Score="0" Text="@JohnP, thank you. I always believe in accepting the limitations of what you can do and stick with what you are good at, this seems to be one of them. Teaching soldiers in SpecOps is one thing, but family is a whole different animal. I agree that just because you may be great at something, doesn't mean you can teach EVERYONE and should stick to those can benefit from it :)" CreationDate="2013-11-07T20:55:15.177" UserId="1439" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4233" PostId="2341" Score="4" Text="@GµårÐïåñ You may have misinterpreted what I meant - it's got nothing to do with how good you are or your level of knowledge, it's that those close to you won't necessarily learn or apply themselves well when you train them. I've got this with my kids - they learn little things from me when we play fight, but formalised training is out of the question because to them I am *Daddy* rather than *Sensei*. This means I need to let someone else train them, then just correct the things that are wrong and give them occasional extra tuition." CreationDate="2013-11-07T20:56:52.123" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4234" PostId="2341" Score="0" Text="@slugster - +1 again. That's exactly what I've found with my wife, and a couple of my friends that have ended up in my classes." CreationDate="2013-11-07T20:59:26.650" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4235" PostId="2341" Score="0" Text="@slugster, oh no, I absolutely agree with you. I got what you meant and I don't think they would benefit form my teaching style, it wasn't mean for civilians to begin with and plus they are family which adds another layer of &quot;sticky&quot; to the approach :) Agree wholeheartedly I will be there to help them refine it and practice it but someone else should teach them to main objectiveness, absolutely. Thank you." CreationDate="2013-11-07T21:00:41.793" UserId="1439" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4236" PostId="2343" Score="0" Text="So glove up, show them the basics of boxing, wrestling, a proper stand, a little guard work, and make it fun. Have them hit the pads, escape mount a few times, show them where a wrist grab is weak." CreationDate="2013-11-07T21:21:11.437" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4237" PostId="2343" Score="0" Text="Oh I do that :) They have fun ganging up on me and I show them proper stance to defend against multiple targets where to aim their attacks, how to guard against a reversal. What areas to protect, how to advance for a strike without leaving themselves open. Proper delivery of the punches, kicks and so on. Basic escape from grabs, locks and even a sleeper hold. That much I have been working with the, its the aggressive offensive techniques is what I want them to learn and my greatest fear is I will hurt them if I try to teach them." CreationDate="2013-11-07T22:09:20.213" UserId="1439" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4238" PostId="2345" Score="2" Text="As an aside, you have my extreme gratitude for your many years of service to our country." CreationDate="2013-11-08T03:30:32.177" UserId="4" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4241" PostId="2339" Score="2" Text="Chokes are hard, but you need to start countering them before they are fully applied. And beware of strong opponents. They will do serious damage to your jaw if you drop your chin into your throat as your only defense. Rather practice on feeling the choke coming and start counter before you are locked up." CreationDate="2013-11-08T13:50:33.153" UserId="1135" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4242" PostId="207" Score="0" Text="There are other ways of disarming a gun than grabbing the barrel, but best is to practice different techniques. Try with wooden prop guns then move onto airsoft guns so you can get punished for mistakes. See what works for you." CreationDate="2013-11-08T13:54:43.010" UserId="1135" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4243" PostId="207" Score="1" Text="The important thing is i would rather loose a finger than my life :-)  (Just remember when trying to disarm a gun to make sure where the barrel is pointing now. I have seen many &quot;good&quot; defenses ending up with gun now pointing at your wife/girlfriend, and this is not acceptable.)" CreationDate="2013-11-08T13:56:27.070" UserId="1135" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4244" PostId="215" Score="0" Text="+1 good answer, minor injuries over major ones any day of the week" CreationDate="2013-11-08T13:57:04.417" UserId="1135" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4248" PostId="2341" Score="1" Text="@GµårÐïåñ Teach them confidence and the right mental attitude and then what you teach them will be less important." CreationDate="2013-11-08T14:27:41.920" UserId="1135" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4249" PostId="2341" Score="1" Text="@AquaAlex, thank you, glad you think that, cause that is the one thing I have done consistently for a long time. What I taught my daughter around age of 5 got her to deal with bullies at her school (mostly older boys in her class) and although single blow dropping of 3 of them got her called to the office, I am not ashamed to say deep down I was like, they got what they deserved, don't dish what you can't take back. So then I told her, honey, try to disarm and diffuse first if you can, last option is to just drop them. She has been good since. I try to teach, don't use as weapon but peacefully" CreationDate="2013-11-08T19:59:31.057" UserId="1439" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4250" PostId="2345" Score="0" Text="I thank you for that, as do all those who serve. Speaking for myself, it is my duty and honor to do so." CreationDate="2013-11-08T20:45:27.120" UserId="1439" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4251" PostId="2347" Score="0" Text="Thank you, lots of good points to consider, will do thank you." CreationDate="2013-11-08T20:46:12.373" UserId="1439" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4252" PostId="2349" Score="0" Text="I would agree. Our federation is one of the larger TKD organizations in the US, and we have 300,000 students, of which I would guess 2/3 are actually actively training." CreationDate="2013-11-08T21:28:53.600" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4253" PostId="2349" Score="1" Text="While I am a long way from the American market, I would agree and speculate that the popularity of those arts will be directly linked to the various TV and sports shows featuring them at the moment." CreationDate="2013-11-09T01:33:27.637" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4254" PostId="2332" Score="0" Text="Ahh the Jedi great place to start, they have excellent courses in constructive sarcasm, perhaps you could learn some. Peace Mad Merlin" CreationDate="2013-11-09T04:09:20.483" UserId="1431" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4256" PostId="2331" Score="0" Text="&quot;As the young Master BRUCE LEE often asked &quot;Is it effective? Does it work?&quot; &quot;yes?&quot; Well he didn't really care what it looked like&quot; I thought was a concise answer to the fact that it really doesn't matter what sort of punch is used as long as it is effective. The advantages of one punch over the other then becomes redundant. Or don't you 'get it' when you read some thing that may too far out of your comfort zone." CreationDate="2013-11-09T04:19:02.717" UserId="1431" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4258" PostId="2334" Score="0" Text="I'm not sure if dogs can smell the fear or you or not but they can certainly detect panic, if the dog *isn't* rabid - it makes sense to keep calm (this is from my experience with aggressive dogs) - Of course if it attacks first you better be ready to snap its neck or kick it in the face." CreationDate="2013-11-09T08:12:49.947" UserId="108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4259" PostId="2342" Score="0" Text="Thank you, I appreciate what you added to your answer and I commend your supportive suggestions." CreationDate="2013-11-10T07:46:42.293" UserId="1439" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4261" PostId="2342" Score="1" Text="@GµårÐïåñ: You are most welcome." CreationDate="2013-11-10T20:23:24.230" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4262" PostId="2352" Score="1" Text="Perhaps you can offer some more detail" CreationDate="2013-11-11T00:46:54.990" UserDisplayName="user6827" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4263" PostId="2351" Score="1" Text="can you make this a bit longer Claude, a little more detail.. good job for answering" CreationDate="2013-11-11T00:48:20.290" UserDisplayName="user6827" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4264" PostId="2351" Score="0" Text="Please note this is a new user and is 13 years old, be kind ty" CreationDate="2013-11-11T01:00:31.323" UserDisplayName="user6827" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4265" PostId="2352" Score="0" Text="Please not this is a new user and only young (13 years old) so please be kind" CreationDate="2013-11-11T01:01:05.497" UserDisplayName="user6827" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4266" PostId="2352" Score="0" Text="This user does bjj and has fought in many comps, he needs assistance and encouragement in writing good posts, it would be good if someone worked with him (other than me, as I am his mother).. I have worked with other youngsters on [se] ty" CreationDate="2013-11-11T01:04:05.133" UserDisplayName="user6827" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4267" PostId="2351" Score="0" Text="Can you please offer some guidance for the newcomer, rather than a downvote and standard line. He is young and new and needs encouragement!" CreationDate="2013-11-11T01:09:52.560" UserDisplayName="user6827" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4270" PostId="2350" Score="0" Text="Thank you, very helpful. I appreciate that since I have practical Krav Maga and Brazilian Jujitsu as well, we are certainly kindred spirits. Again, thank you for the thoughtful sharing of your experience." CreationDate="2013-11-11T01:31:48.013" UserId="1439" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4271" PostId="2352" Score="2" Text="Hi Claude, and welcome! [Writing a good answer](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help/how-to-answer) is key to maintaining quality on Stack Exchange. Providing a detailed and specific explanation is a good way to start getting involved here. Low quality answers may be [deleted](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help/deleted-answers) and result in your account being [banned from answer](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help/answer-bans). Please see the [help section](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help) for more information about how this site works." CreationDate="2013-11-11T01:59:37.593" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4272" PostId="2352" Score="1" Text="Honestly this is a fair amount of detail." CreationDate="2013-11-11T07:22:26.683" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4274" PostId="2355" Score="2" Text="Ippon is based on technique however referees are only human and a resounding crash may affect their perception of the technique." CreationDate="2013-11-11T12:50:17.963" UserId="1374" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4275" PostId="2356" Score="1" Text="+1 for the differentiation of *shiai* and *randori*... I should have mentioned that in my answer." CreationDate="2013-11-11T13:37:30.153" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4276" PostId="2357" Score="3" Text="But wouldn't all these attributes of the vertical punch also apply to a horizontal punch?" CreationDate="2013-11-11T18:48:53.777" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4277" PostId="2357" Score="0" Text="I agree with @Dave. Specifically, you only ever punch with the first two knuckles - if you are using the 3rd/4th knuckles then you are doing a more specialised technique which is not delivered like a normal punch." CreationDate="2013-11-11T23:24:30.297" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4278" PostId="2362" Score="4" Text="Have you ever watched American football, or heavyweight Olympic lifting? It's absolutely possible to be simultaneousl big, strong, fast, and flexible." CreationDate="2013-11-12T06:36:00.990" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4280" PostId="2358" Score="1" Text="It's not a duplicate, but [this question](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/2013/347) may help describe the situation." CreationDate="2013-11-12T06:39:51.753" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4282" PostId="2363" Score="0" Text="I think this is a really good summary. ty" CreationDate="2013-11-12T07:47:57.917" UserDisplayName="user6827" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4283" PostId="2362" Score="0" Text="Because it is science." CreationDate="2013-11-12T07:50:53.283" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4289" PostId="2368" Score="0" Text="The *not washing your belt* is an urban myth that even a slight knowledge of Japanese culture (or any other culture for that matter) can prove as utter rubbish.  A variation (still utter rubbish) is the dying the belt with darker and darker colours." CreationDate="2013-11-12T12:42:19.273" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4291" PostId="2366" Score="0" Text="What about punching power or gymnastic training." CreationDate="2013-11-12T13:23:36.743" UserId="1453" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4292" PostId="2366" Score="0" Text="@cameron Punching power is developed with technique plus general power training such as the Olympic lifts like the power snatch, power clean, and push press. I'm not sure what you're asking gymnastic training. I mean, yeah, gymnastics is great, but it won't make you very big except in the shoulders, lats, and upper arms. (Which are great places to be big.)" CreationDate="2013-11-12T13:50:24.630" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4294" PostId="2371" Score="1" Text="Well, it's lesson 4 at the moment :p I'm still deciding who to trust..." CreationDate="2013-11-13T08:18:58.957" UserId="293" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4295" PostId="2373" Score="3" Text="Please use paragraphs and format your posts legibly." CreationDate="2013-11-13T08:58:24.680" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4296" PostId="2371" Score="1" Text="@Tominator: I would strongly suggest you asked the teacher for the why.  Depending on how and what his answer is, it should give you an indication." CreationDate="2013-11-13T09:03:31.167" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4297" PostId="2374" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the info; in the form, the breathing actually continues with everything, so it should start correctly to be right until the end.. It kinda matters with what you start :-)" CreationDate="2013-11-13T12:30:35.187" UserId="293" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4298" PostId="2374" Score="0" Text="@Tominator Fair enough. There is a fair degree of &quot;in this class we do it this way&quot; in any forms practice, however." CreationDate="2013-11-13T13:11:12.733" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4299" PostId="2331" Score="3" Text="@MadMerlin - You are being snide and condescending to a long time contributor and fellow martial artist. Apart from him having a valid point, was this how your sensei taught people to act?" CreationDate="2013-11-13T13:41:21.070" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4300" PostId="2368" Score="1" Text="Actually was started by founder of Judo for training children and allowing them some form to see their progression. Was later adapted by other martial arts for adults and children" CreationDate="2013-11-13T14:16:47.177" UserId="1135" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4302" PostId="2373" Score="1" Text="Multiple answers are okay in certain cases, but please consider only writing one complete answer." CreationDate="2013-11-14T03:09:35.783" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4303" PostId="2375" Score="2" Text="-1, are you seriously asking for medical advise from the Internet?  +1, for your last question (3) which is interesting." CreationDate="2013-11-14T07:39:43.310" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4304" PostId="2375" Score="1" Text="Side kicks? Or round kicks?" CreationDate="2013-11-14T07:48:37.457" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4305" PostId="2375" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion: Read carefully, I'm not asking for medical advice. I'd have gone to the doctor with that. I didn't, because I'm sure this particular bruise will go away. But a doctor will not be able to tell about the mid-long term effects of training. A regular doctor would probably say stop doing it, if they lack first-hand experience, because they always want to stay on the safe side. Hence, I asking it here from people with experience." CreationDate="2013-11-14T08:46:55.053" UserId="1302" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4306" PostId="2376" Score="0" Text="Thanks. I'm not against bruises in general, I was asking specifically about the inner thighs. Some important stuff runs there, the femoral artery, the great saphenous vein, the sciatic nerve. But if experience tells that these are not of concern (given tough, but sensible training) and it all just toughens up without negative consequences, then I believe it." CreationDate="2013-11-14T09:01:47.310" UserId="1302" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4307" PostId="2375" Score="1" Text="First, you **are** asking about medical advise -- see *I'm worried about possible health effects[...]* and *Are there any long term negative health effect[...]*.  Second, the assertion that *&quot;[...] a doctor will not be able to tell about the mid-long term effects of training.&quot;* **is wrong.** Yes, a doctor should be able to tell you of negative effects of injuries.  You might have to find a doctor that specialise in sport and sport injuries for more up to date information but any medical doctor will be able to tell.  They are certainly more qualified that random strangers on the Internet." CreationDate="2013-11-14T09:40:25.373" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4308" PostId="2135" Score="0" Text="Maintain awareness (closeness does not matter).  Keep in mind that most probably no harm will be done by either side.  Stepping back is _not_ provocative but might startle the other person in other ways; but I have the feeling it's more embarrassing you than anything else.  Avoid too-close situations early." CreationDate="2013-11-14T12:09:52.313" UserId="1105" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4309" PostId="2376" Score="2" Text="Actually, the bumps in the shin produced by impact are because you have damaged the periosteum in the area, and it doesn't reform the bone in the same way in that area. Cortical remodeling goes on all the time." CreationDate="2013-11-14T14:43:33.373" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4311" PostId="2379" Score="5" Text="Many successful competitors train daily, even twice a day. I, like many casual amateurs, train multiple days in a row with no ill effect." CreationDate="2013-11-14T20:48:27.043" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4314" PostId="2379" Score="0" Text="With being exhausted at the end of the day ? I don't think so." CreationDate="2013-11-14T22:22:53.903" UserId="1463" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4316" PostId="2379" Score="2" Text="You'd be wrong. Some people train hard." CreationDate="2013-11-14T22:31:38.730" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4321" PostId="2384" Score="1" Text="This answer is on point. Well said." CreationDate="2013-11-15T06:58:26.480" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4337" PostId="2384" Score="1" Text="@DaveLiepmann - It may be on point, but your prejudices are showing. :) There are many valid martial arts that will give the same benefit as the rather limited suggestion of judo or BJJ. Shotokan, Hapkido and Kenpo come to mind as a few of the hard style kata oriented martial arts that also have more combative sparring than some of the softer kata oriented arts." CreationDate="2013-11-15T14:49:50.130" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4338" PostId="2375" Score="0" Text="some bruising will be expected initially, but serious bruising and regularly being hurt shows bad training techniques and might mean you need to find a different teacher.  I believe in the saying: Gradual Progress. Build up hardness/toughness slowly and gently over time without serious injury to yourself." CreationDate="2013-11-15T18:41:27.930" UserId="1135" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4339" PostId="2375" Score="0" Text="I have to agree with Sardathrion. If you are injured go seek the advice from a doctor or physiotherapist. Try to find someone specialized in sports injuries." CreationDate="2013-11-15T18:44:28.303" UserId="1135" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4345" PostId="2384" Score="1" Text="Nope they won't (give the same benefit). In any striking art, you have to hold back when you spar. You won't actually knock your opponent out because then the training session (should) end for him. Many striking gyms you'll have the idea in the back of your mind that you could've hulked out of the situation but you jus weren't punching him hard enough. 90% of karate/TKD/Kenpo, etc dojo's (in the USA) are bullshit. My 'prejudice' comes from a lot of research and a having fought a lot of mixed martial arts fights / cornered professional fighters. I've also done Tae Kwon Do in several places." CreationDate="2013-11-16T02:02:11.037" UserId="1207" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4346" PostId="2379" Score="2" Text="I train twice a day every day, am freaking pooped twice a day. I take sundays and wednesday nights off. Sometimes I take a few days break, but that's more to refresh my brain. Your body will get used to it, and his 19 year old kid's body has probably grown up with it for the past few years (assuming he's been training for a few, if he's instructing). His body is probably expecting and looking forward to the exercise." CreationDate="2013-11-16T02:37:52.730" UserId="1207" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4347" PostId="2384" Score="1" Text="@JohnP The part I appreciate isn't &quot;judo or BJJ&quot;. It's &quot;Live sparring is essential.&quot; I've known too many people *teaching* martial arts that don't (and can't!) have confidence in their skills because they never pressure-test them in full-contact sparring or competition. That is the divide that matters between hard and soft training." CreationDate="2013-11-17T21:33:53.000" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4349" PostId="2384" Score="0" Text="Well, considering your other concerns, I feel grappling would be a better start than a realistic striking style - where if you get sparred early and too hard will be much more discouraging (due to actual pain that you're not used to (yet)) than losing in BJJ or Judo would." CreationDate="2013-11-18T04:58:11.483" UserId="1207" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4350" PostId="2400" Score="3" Text="Do you have a reference for that?" CreationDate="2013-11-18T07:25:58.943" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4353" PostId="2406" Score="0" Text="great answer. So it seems as if the damage is secondary to the strategy for setting up more powerful hits" CreationDate="2013-11-18T11:15:20.950" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4354" PostId="2406" Score="1" Text="@Vass Not more so than most other strikes. An outside low kick, jab, body punch, and even the cross don't usually knock people out. They don't need to do so to be effective. Also, see the sherdog link for plenty of knockdowns from this kick." CreationDate="2013-11-18T11:50:05.057" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4360" PostId="2407" Score="0" Text="is it by any chance more effective than gloved punches to the arms? Kicks to the *outer* thighs can bring an opponent to submission. IS the inner thigh a critical place as well?" CreationDate="2013-11-18T23:22:47.193" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4362" PostId="2283" Score="0" Text="Nice one I'm SBG too :)" CreationDate="2013-11-19T14:40:49.033" UserId="1475" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4363" PostId="2406" Score="3" Text="@Vass - Also, it is not necessarily the one shot damage, but repeated, compounded strikes to the same area. The body shot in boxing is rarely instantly debilitating, but dozens of body shots over many rounds wears down the body and stamina." CreationDate="2013-11-19T15:13:53.913" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4364" PostId="2407" Score="2" Text="@Vass - The outside thigh kick can bring an opponent down because there is a nerve bundle there that can paralyze the leg momentarily, and is relatively open to striking. The one on the inner thigh is up high enough it's harder to strike effectively." CreationDate="2013-11-19T15:15:51.927" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4365" PostId="2363" Score="0" Text="Interesting. Coming from a wrestling background, the idea of not focusing on take-downs is a very strange concept." CreationDate="2013-11-19T19:11:59.230" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4367" PostId="2410" Score="0" Text="You need to add more detail on the content of these practices. Are you looking for an exercise-science answer on optimally designing a workout--which would only really help an instructor--or for a good way to handle hard training?" CreationDate="2013-11-20T16:43:20.717" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4368" PostId="2410" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann, handle hard training and get the most out of it. That I am not running on empty and not doing damage" CreationDate="2013-11-20T16:45:06.143" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4369" PostId="2410" Score="0" Text="Yeah, we definitely need more detail on the structure of practice, when/how you start having trouble, how long you've been training and on what schedule." CreationDate="2013-11-20T16:48:45.880" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4370" PostId="2411" Score="2" Text="Are you seriously claiming that an hour of intense exercise requires salty sugar drinks in order not to damage one's organs? That's absurd on its face. Millions of people train longer and harder than that without ill effects on their (unspecified) organs." CreationDate="2013-11-20T16:50:47.640" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4371" PostId="2411" Score="1" Text="The condition is called Hyponatremia and affects the kidneys. It's not really absurd in any way." CreationDate="2013-11-20T16:58:26.353" UserId="1476" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4372" PostId="2411" Score="0" Text="I think you mean **hyper** natremia. [Hyponatremia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyponatremia) is associated with a large intake of water causing a low concentration of sodium in one's blood. [Hypernatremia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypernatremia) is a relatively high concentration of sodium due to lack of fluids (dehydration)." CreationDate="2013-11-20T20:21:55.323" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4373" PostId="2411" Score="0" Text="Either way, I think the warning needs to be rephrased to be anything but laughable. If one could &quot;damage your organs&quot; without &quot;carb drink&quot; for longer than &quot;an hour doing anything intensive&quot; then we'd have an epidemic of tens of millions of people hitting the ER from playing soccer, judo, running, football..." CreationDate="2013-11-20T22:09:32.147" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4374" PostId="2411" Score="2" Text="I was interested in this, just through my casual googling (ie, I'm an expert now!), it seems this might come about through drinking a bunch of water through the 90 minutes to lower your sodium content.  It seems more dependent on how fast you drink bulk amounts of water than the total quantity.  Also its unlikely to damage your organs in that time unless you went really crazy with water, but it might account for some fatigue / exhaustion / mental exhaustion you feel. But overall unlikely to be factor unless you drink lots" CreationDate="2013-11-21T01:09:43.820" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4375" PostId="2341" Score="0" Text="When you say effective, do you mean in a street combat situation?" CreationDate="2013-11-21T18:16:21.320" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4376" PostId="2345" Score="1" Text="Krav Maga is designed to be picked up quickly. If you can find a good teacher, I would suggest it no question. (Just be wary, if every Krav maga instructor who claims to have trained Israeli special forces did so, then there are waay more instructors then soldiers)" CreationDate="2013-11-21T18:18:46.897" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4377" PostId="2341" Score="0" Text="@Btuman, thank you but no I don't mean street combat. I don't expect that my wife and daughter will find themselves in that situation, at least I hope to god not, but they might find themselves in a situation of an attempt to mug them, god forbid rape, car jacking (is that covered by mugging?) and generally any kind of physical assault. I want them to be able to fight back if they can't escape, or provide them a better shot to escape as was brought up by a few (as for civilians combat is not the goal, escape/avoidance is). Does that answer your question? I guess defense is best goal." CreationDate="2013-11-21T22:25:06.943" UserId="1439" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4378" PostId="2414" Score="0" Text="Excellent suggestion, thank you. I have had a couple others who have voted for that, so the base is growing for that option :)" CreationDate="2013-11-21T22:25:57.883" UserId="1439" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4379" PostId="2347" Score="0" Text="Just a follow-up to thank you for the help, I have narrowed it down to Krav Maga because an old friend from Israel who is training some MMA fighters we know offered to coach them at the gym since she will already be there and being female gives her some perspective with my girls. Now how quickly or well they pick it up, only time will tell, thanks again." CreationDate="2013-11-21T22:29:27.433" UserId="1439" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4380" PostId="2345" Score="1" Text="@Btuman, agreed. Thankfully due to my &quot;past&quot; life for lack of a better word, I know enough REAL soldiers to ask and a few live in the states now, so that certainly helps me. I broached the subject with them to ask if they would be interested in teaching my girls and they were, but they all agreed that our female friend should do it for added benefit of perspective. So we'll see how this works out." CreationDate="2013-11-21T22:33:52.813" UserId="1439" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4381" PostId="2411" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I am also skeptical about the claims made by kwaichi, but I guess it also depends on how you define &quot;intensive&quot;. If kwaichi means near-maximum effort then it is a bit more plausible." CreationDate="2013-11-22T15:18:36.553" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4382" PostId="2341" Score="0" Text="Thats what I meant by street combat, should have been more clear :)" CreationDate="2013-11-22T15:26:00.923" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4383" PostId="1091" Score="0" Text="Purpleheart link is dead" CreationDate="2013-11-22T16:08:14.243" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4384" PostId="1942" Score="0" Text="I have the exact same situation. In the same place I feel a pull or discomfort as if there is another unstretched region of muscles being pulled" CreationDate="2013-11-22T16:10:38.427" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4385" PostId="368" Score="0" Text="I found that the area of concern in the question which I have felt is addressed by attempting 'kapotasana' in the other direction of the front leg" CreationDate="2013-11-22T16:18:40.413" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4386" PostId="2341" Score="1" Text="@Btuman, in that case, YES ;) sorry I took that as something else." CreationDate="2013-11-22T22:15:18.083" UserId="1439" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4387" PostId="1091" Score="0" Text="@Btuman The link is alive again - probably an intermittent or localised problem." CreationDate="2013-11-23T01:16:02.303" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4388" PostId="2421" Score="0" Text="Personally I think that (modern day) wraps are more cosmetic than anything else, but that's just my opinion and I've never seen anything authoritative on it. Maybe they are traditional rather than functional." CreationDate="2013-11-24T01:12:50.143" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4389" PostId="2400" Score="0" Text="No it's just what I was always told and it made logical sense.  I can see if there are any good sources if you really want know." CreationDate="2013-11-24T04:02:08.760" UserId="1407" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4390" PostId="2421" Score="0" Text="@slugster Hand wraps, or ankle wraps?" CreationDate="2013-11-24T08:17:07.187" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4391" PostId="2421" Score="1" Text="The ankle ones - once upon a time they might have been a lot stronger (i.e. flax/hemp or similar), but I find it hard to believe that modern ankle wraps would provide much benefit during a full contact fight. In the few times I competed I never saw anyone using them - but that's just my experience. Maybe there is a specific method of wrapping that provides some lateral stability without impinging on mobility, I dunno." CreationDate="2013-11-24T09:25:39.897" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4392" PostId="2400" Score="1" Text="I just talked to my brother and he did some research on wikipedia.  He actually believes that it's for purity and tradition since Judo is the first style to officially use gi's.  The heavy weave for Judo is actually based off of the gi's that would be worn for firefighting." CreationDate="2013-11-24T14:48:14.827" UserId="1407" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4393" PostId="1090" Score="0" Text="Aren't police batons made of fibreglass?" CreationDate="2013-11-24T19:46:50.007" UserDisplayName="user1489" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4394" PostId="1090" Score="0" Text="@user1489 Not in general, no." CreationDate="2013-11-24T23:00:19.467" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4395" PostId="2420" Score="2" Text="-1. Advocating getting injured is crazy." CreationDate="2013-11-25T09:54:41.583" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4396" PostId="2421" Score="0" Text="It may prevent burns from scraping the ankle or the top of the foot on the canvas when slipping and getting back up. But I highly doubt that's the reason fighters wear them.&#xA;&#xA;I think it's more psychological. I remember when I was a your Taekwondo-ka, if I had wraps around my knees and ankles, it just felt like I could kick better. There's no science to support this, but it felt real enough." CreationDate="2013-11-25T10:04:58.037" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4397" PostId="1088" Score="0" Text="Rattan is quite nice. So is bamboo. Bamboo can be baked in a kiln (don't know the right temp) to make it quite hard and durable." CreationDate="2013-11-25T10:07:24.763" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4398" PostId="2421" Score="0" Text="@JuannStrauss Your comment would be a fine answer." CreationDate="2013-11-25T11:56:54.817" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4399" PostId="2421" Score="0" Text="It's pure speculation." CreationDate="2013-11-25T12:57:38.813" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4400" PostId="2421" Score="0" Text="@JuannStrauss As long as you're clear about it, I think it's fine. We're not drowning in answers here." CreationDate="2013-11-25T13:00:19.840" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4402" PostId="2426" Score="1" Text="All the Oyama biographies report that he learned Chinese first, as a boy working on a farm, before learning Shotokan later. The fact that lower-grade Kyokushin kata are more rigid is, I would contend, a pedagogical choice. I would note that orthodox Shotokan shares that progression towards more circular, flowing kata at the advanced levels." CreationDate="2013-11-26T12:50:41.677" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4405" PostId="288" Score="2" Text="+1 for the ballet - it might sound a little &quot;gay&quot; to the regular red blooded male, but training in ballet is going to give impressive results with your martial arts, I would endorse it 100%." CreationDate="2013-11-26T20:43:50.350" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4407" PostId="2424" Score="5" Text="why not kicboxing? muay thai? mma?" CreationDate="2013-11-27T02:22:57.723" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4408" PostId="2432" Score="2" Text="Hi Johan, and welcome to the site. Please take a look at the [about page](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/about) and the [help section](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help) to get a better understanding of how this site works. Posts here are expected to follow the Q&amp;A model rather than a traditional web forum." CreationDate="2013-11-27T02:26:18.977" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4409" PostId="1928" Score="3" Text="To support this answer: (Judo) during the Kime-no-kata there are armed attacks. Idori, Tsukkomi and Yoko tsuki have a knife hidden in the gi as described in the answer. This can only be done when you have left over right. http://judoinfo.com/katakime.htm" CreationDate="2013-11-27T12:56:23.837" UserId="212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4410" PostId="1947" Score="2" Text="sorry, but a tradition is often based on something else." CreationDate="2013-11-27T12:57:07.527" UserId="212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4411" PostId="2433" Score="0" Text="€150 seems really high for a Judo gi.  Most of the ones I get are around £30/40..." CreationDate="2013-11-27T13:48:36.700" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4412" PostId="2433" Score="0" Text="size 185 and 800gr/m²? it is € 162,- http://www.nihonsport.nl/pakken/judopakken/adidas-judopak-j800-wit.html Mizuno is even more expensive http://www.nihonsport.nl/pakken/judopakken.html?brands=4" CreationDate="2013-11-27T13:54:10.073" UserId="212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4413" PostId="2434" Score="0" Text="I also have emblems on my shoulders which might be bleached then? http://www.nihonsport.nl/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/j/7/j730_493d41dd50b28.jpg I don't mind an experiment by the way. I have probably have to buy a new gi anyway." CreationDate="2013-11-27T13:57:09.083" UserId="212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4414" PostId="2433" Score="0" Text="[Nine circles](http://www.ninecircles.co.uk/Clothing/Aikido_Gi/Aikidogi_-_Deluxe_750g_Sashiko_Ori.aspx) has some (okay, they are Aikido gi...) for €50ish...  *Note that I am only affiliated with Nine Circles as a customer.*" CreationDate="2013-11-27T14:05:23.147" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4415" PostId="2434" Score="0" Text="Yes, the emblems will be bleached as well unless you remove them first.  You *could* do some clever bleaching in a bucket but that will leave you with a yellowish halo around the emblems." CreationDate="2013-11-27T14:06:44.997" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4416" PostId="1807" Score="0" Text="I agree, I have had the most injuries with judo, although my face gets bashed in muay thai, its just that those hits don't get classified as injuries" CreationDate="2013-11-27T14:13:36.333" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4417" PostId="2426" Score="0" Text="That's what you get when trying to quote from memory something you learned more than a decade ago." CreationDate="2013-11-27T14:13:44.677" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4418" PostId="2434" Score="0" Text="Bleach is generally contraindicated for washing grappling gi, since it weakens the fabric." CreationDate="2013-11-27T14:15:00.650" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4419" PostId="2426" Score="1" Text="Happens to the best of us." CreationDate="2013-11-27T14:18:17.227" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4420" PostId="671" Score="0" Text="communication with the sparring partner is Good!" CreationDate="2013-11-27T14:20:57.217" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4421" PostId="2435" Score="0" Text="4 really nice suggestions, thanks, will take a look at them and will update this question with the results!" CreationDate="2013-11-27T14:29:24.797" UserId="212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4422" PostId="2428" Score="1" Text="&quot;krotty dances&quot; sounds snide to me." CreationDate="2013-11-27T15:04:01.543" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4423" PostId="2428" Score="2" Text="@Trevoke Maybe that's because it's paired with &quot;funny Asian pajamas&quot; and is intended to critique the practice a little. The latter part of the term is not without prior art: see Peter Urban's classic *The Karate Dojo*." CreationDate="2013-11-27T15:09:56.573" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4424" PostId="2428" Score="1" Text="Well, it reminds me of the scene at the end of V for Vendetta, really. &quot;You've got nothing. Nothing but your bloody knives and your fancy karate gimmicks.&quot; The pyjama bit is something I hear a lot. It's the intentional misspelling that irked me. Dancing and martial arts have a lot in common." CreationDate="2013-11-27T18:14:11.743" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4425" PostId="1090" Score="0" Text="is polyprop… yeah, that. Is that a fancy name for *plastic*?" CreationDate="2013-11-28T02:40:30.650" UserId="1333" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4426" PostId="697" Score="0" Text="Control them by using them. When mad be mad, when when clever be clever." CreationDate="2013-11-30T06:33:52.090" UserId="1504" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4427" PostId="383" Score="0" Text="The army told me to put my chin to my shoulder." CreationDate="2013-11-30T06:41:25.887" UserId="1504" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4428" PostId="254" Score="0" Text="Check into the book shadow warrior. It does have every single detail about reading people also masking intention. I'm 90% sure of this but look it up.:-)" CreationDate="2013-11-30T06:52:49.687" UserId="1504" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4429" PostId="2442" Score="4" Text="Mental rehearsal is great, but it doesn't allow you to retain 99% of your skill over a year of not training with partners unless your original skill level was abysmal." CreationDate="2013-11-30T10:35:04.720" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4430" PostId="2455" Score="1" Text="Hi, welcome to MartialArts.Se. You're question is almost a duplicate of this one: [*Martial art for a complete newbie - can i learn on my own?*](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/1981/70), see if it answers your question." CreationDate="2013-11-30T13:31:13.827" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4432" PostId="2455" Score="0" Text="If you don't care about fighting applications or self-defense, any tai chi DVD would be fine. If you do care about self-defense then the answers to the other question would be helpful." CreationDate="2013-11-30T15:04:49.173" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4433" PostId="2453" Score="0" Text="What do you mean by three times stronger? How are you qualifying this measurement?" CreationDate="2013-12-01T01:27:56.157" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4437" PostId="2459" Score="1" Text="Thank you for your answer, but you hardly address the question. Do you know how it comes that the Northern and Southern style are so different?" CreationDate="2013-12-03T12:25:13.593" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4438" PostId="2464" Score="1" Text="I actually believe the opposite: those with lesser experience should mostly be sparring with more-experienced partners so that pairs of novices don't hurt each other with technique-less brawling." CreationDate="2013-12-04T15:42:48.527" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4439" PostId="2464" Score="0" Text="That's sort of what I said. But you need to be realistic. Mike Tyson will knock you out before you've ever had a chance to learn anything. But you might learn a lot from fighting the guy who just went pro last weekend." CreationDate="2013-12-04T19:13:56.933" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4440" PostId="2464" Score="1" Text="+1, although I will say it's common karate for dan grades to spar white belts - the dan grade should spar to the capability of the white belt and push them a little further. Showing the right judgement and control in a situation like that is one of the parts of becoming a dan grade." CreationDate="2013-12-04T21:38:49.920" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4441" PostId="2470" Score="8" Text="Hard work and discipline, baby!" CreationDate="2013-12-05T07:59:53.817" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4447" PostId="2471" Score="0" Text="I was thinking about the relative youth of the modern art, but the art has its basis in centuries old martial arts.  As far as the bo and kali, I find them and other &quot;traditional&quot; weapons to be natural extensions of the hand and foot techniques that is taught with taekwondo. As well, something especially like the bo can help taekwondo practitioners showcase the use of two hands (or the whole body) for all techniques." CreationDate="2013-12-05T14:41:09.977" UserId="1513" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4448" PostId="2465" Score="1" Text="this answer on wikianswers could be helpful to you http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_weapons_are_used_in_Tae_Kwon_Do" CreationDate="2013-12-05T19:21:46.693" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4449" PostId="2222" Score="0" Text="Explanations regarding downvotes are generally appreciated. I'm not sure how you could get much more accurate than hearing it from the man's own mouth." CreationDate="2013-12-05T23:57:00.053" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4450" PostId="1904" Score="0" Text="They're escapes if they motivate the attacker to dismount" CreationDate="2013-12-06T00:42:10.167" UserId="1523" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4451" PostId="1904" Score="0" Text="you could blow in his ear, sing a nursery rhyme, pee your pants, and they all may make them dismount, but they still aren't escapes in the practical sense of a martial arts technique.  pain compliance is useful and may or may not get the desired result." CreationDate="2013-12-06T01:04:21.277" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4456" PostId="2477" Score="3" Text="I suspect there are far more men practising Taekwondo then women. It's also possible that most women don't like to show off as much as men." CreationDate="2013-12-06T08:13:14.013" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4458" PostId="2473" Score="1" Text="@Vjaykumar if one of the answers here has answered your question, please check it as 'accepted'" CreationDate="2013-12-06T13:32:12.483" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4459" PostId="1343" Score="1" Text="+1 Why has this post been down-voted?" CreationDate="2013-12-06T14:56:29.923" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4460" PostId="2470" Score="3" Text="All the answers are good information. As you start to progress a little further in your martial arts career, you will realize that learning is learning, and that belts are just symbolic mile markers along the way. Learn all that you can as best as you can, and the belts will eventually come. Comparing yourself to an arbitrary scale or other practitioners is a good way to get a lot of frustration." CreationDate="2013-12-06T15:36:34.843" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4461" PostId="2470" Score="1" Text="This can differ so much from school to school, and within substyles of TKD.  If you've been practicing for 2-3 months (presumably with an instructor / at a school), why not just ask your instructor?  There's no telling how applicable, or not, replies you get here will be for your school." CreationDate="2013-12-06T19:37:06.897" UserId="698" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4463" PostId="2399" Score="0" Text="&quot;The more volume you have the more mass you have and thus the slower you are.&quot; Preposterous. Bulky NFL linemen can out-sprint most people who aren't accustomed to sprinting. A 1-ton bull can leap and rotate in the air. All it requires is sufficient muscle to move that mass at the desired velocity. Strong = fast (for that specific muscle group)." CreationDate="2013-12-06T19:42:09.403" UserId="1076" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4465" PostId="2399" Score="0" Text="Ridiculous. Any sprinter will out sprint any bulky person. A tiger (not a cat) will jump 3 times its length in height and climb trees. Strong = Slow. You don't understand what you're seeing." CreationDate="2013-12-06T23:10:07.340" UserId="1463" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4471" PostId="1276" Score="1" Text="I have found that the more useless the martial arts school, the bigger the emphasis is on running away rather than fighting. That being said, the best thing to do to avoid a fight is to not go to places where idiots hang out. And don't wear your TapOut shirt. Those things are douchebag magnets." CreationDate="2013-12-07T21:08:03.183" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4472" PostId="2485" Score="0" Text="I found out that the more useless the martial arts school, the bigger the emphasis is on fighting rather than running away. It's all down to personal experience I guess... ^_~" CreationDate="2013-12-09T10:59:09.523" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4473" PostId="2485" Score="0" Text="I don't know man. I produced 5 students who went on to win national titles. I had a very simple rule : start nothing; finish everything. It seemed to work rather well." CreationDate="2013-12-09T11:11:00.447" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4474" PostId="2399" Score="0" Text="&quot;Any sprinter will out sprint any bulky person.&quot; - Come on now, you can't state absolutes like that and expect to be taken seriously. Bo Jackson ran the fastest 40-yard dash EVER RECORDED (4.12 seconds) and he was over 200lbs at the time. If you take Usain Bolt's record 100M run (9.63 seconds) and scale it down to a 40 yard dash, he'd clock in at about 3.97 seconds, only about 1/7th of a second ahead of Jackson, and most pro's don't even think a sub-4.0 40yd dash is even humanly possible anyway." CreationDate="2013-12-09T14:05:37.910" UserId="1076" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4475" PostId="2490" Score="0" Text="Fencing is also an Olympic combat sport, coming in three varieties (foil, epee, and saber)." CreationDate="2013-12-09T16:01:25.657" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4476" PostId="2490" Score="0" Text="@DavidH.Clements I apologize for my bias towards unarmed combat. Perhaps you could you edit my answer to include fencing? I assume firearms don't count because combat sports require competition against a live opponent instead of a target." CreationDate="2013-12-09T16:27:00.647" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4477" PostId="2399" Score="0" Text="Based on pictures Bo Jackson is bulkier and based on your data Usain Bolt is faster, so you've proven my point. The strongest aren't the fastest and vice versa, it's a law of physics, nature proves it." CreationDate="2013-12-09T18:27:07.403" UserId="1463" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4478" PostId="875" Score="0" Text="so give me a simple answer. should we or should we not block with an open hand? how great are the chances of injury blocking with an open hand?" CreationDate="2013-12-10T02:15:54.463" UserDisplayName="user1533" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4480" PostId="2499" Score="1" Text="+1 For those more interested in the real history of TKD, read [A Killing Art](http://akillingart.com/) by Alex Gillis" CreationDate="2013-12-12T08:42:53.713" UserId="79" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4481" PostId="2499" Score="0" Text="@Eugene Yokota very detailed answer.  The analysis of the kanji was especially appreciated.  Thanks." CreationDate="2013-12-12T13:32:08.930" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4482" PostId="2499" Score="0" Text="@SeanPatrickFloyd Thanks for the recommendation.  I'll look into it." CreationDate="2013-12-12T13:32:37.697" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4483" PostId="315" Score="0" Text="+1 This is a good explanation that points to the origins of the words.  However, English is a living language and we do have to take into account modern interpretations of words.  &quot;Internal&quot; and &quot;External&quot; do serve as useful categories when talking about martial arts so long as we understand that they are not the end-all, be-all explanation." CreationDate="2013-12-12T16:14:02.563" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4484" PostId="2501" Score="0" Text="sigh, i will shut up then.'cus no one her really understands internal kungfu" CreationDate="2013-12-12T17:17:43.150" UserId="1539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4485" PostId="2501" Score="3" Text="I'm not the down voter, but I would suggest that the definition of 'internal' that you've given is not correct. For example I've always been taught that internal arts concentrate on power generation from and energy delivery to the internal energy meridians, whereas the external arts focused on delivering energy (force/pain) to the external parts of the body - but both internal and external could still utilise components of the other." CreationDate="2013-12-12T23:03:28.327" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4486" PostId="2501" Score="0" Text="to be frank, you&quot;'ve always been taught&quot; by some one who doesnt understand chinese martial arts. Let me show you  videos of my Shifu, you can watch at http://video.sina.com.cn/search/index.php?k=%E7%89%9F%E4%BF%8A%E4%B8%9C" CreationDate="2013-12-13T00:55:13.360" UserId="1539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4487" PostId="875" Score="0" Text="Based on experience, you've got greater chance of injuring your hands when blocking with open hand, as compared to closed fist. How great the chances are depends greatly on your style, skill, speed and technique. There's no 'should' about blocking open hand. Do what is comfortable, and feels safe to you and your partner." CreationDate="2013-12-13T00:55:17.527" UserId="1026" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4488" PostId="2503" Score="3" Text="You have three different questions thus you should ask three questions instead of one.  Also, can you tell us why  the [wikipedia page and associated source](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorinji_Kempo) do not help?" CreationDate="2013-12-13T13:22:50.890" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4498" PostId="222" Score="0" Text="This question appears to be off-topic because it is about present data ninja's. The connection between modern ninjutsu and modern budo and historical budo/ninjutsu is ... inappropriate for the question." CreationDate="2013-12-16T13:19:31.403" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4500" PostId="2509" Score="0" Text="also in competition, its not done by belt rank" CreationDate="2013-12-16T22:12:29.283" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4516" PostId="2509" Score="2" Text="Also in most competitions you are allowed to grab onto your own clothes in no-gi. Just for completeness sake, as this can be helpful in certain spots." CreationDate="2013-12-17T13:28:44.520" UserId="1114" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4518" PostId="2518" Score="0" Text="You mention that this happens during the Ginga and when you try Esquiva.  What particular movement is making you uncomfortable?  For example, is it when you put your leg back in the Ginga?  Is it when you put your hand on the floor for esquiva?" CreationDate="2013-12-17T15:16:57.843" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4519" PostId="2518" Score="0" Text="On the back-step of the ginga, the knee of my front leg.  Same for esquiva; step back on my left leg, right hand down, slight, uncomfortable right knee pressure." CreationDate="2013-12-17T15:19:51.887" UserId="1551" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4520" PostId="2519" Score="0" Text="Sorry, hard to clarify vagueness without any real understanding of the movements yet but I think you may have hit the nail on the head with the leaning back thing.  I was doing that, keeping the weight forward is helpful.  Stretching is probably the last little bit of strain I feel." CreationDate="2013-12-17T16:13:24.600" UserId="1551" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4521" PostId="2519" Score="1" Text="@RossDrew I'm glad I could help" CreationDate="2013-12-17T16:13:54.430" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4524" PostId="2527" Score="0" Text="What do you mean specifically about diet? I don't understand that part." CreationDate="2013-12-18T19:02:43.897" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4525" PostId="2527" Score="0" Text="Northerners ate more grains and meat due to the cold, so that is believed to be part of why they were generally taller than their southern counterparts. The height difference, with their longer legs and arms, affected the difference in how they fought, such as northerners using more kicks, more extended kicks and longer strikes. The Long Fist style is one example of a northern style being created to take advantage of the longer limbs of northerners, in this case, their longer arms. Southerners ate a more vegetable based diet which often doesn't add as much bulk or size, including height." CreationDate="2013-12-18T19:07:25.177" UserId="1486" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4526" PostId="281" Score="1" Text="In gung-fu, we greatly avoid going on the ball of the foot because you are also far more vulnerable to leg sweeps, have a far weaker root of the standing leg which is critical for power &amp; kicking recovery. Going on the ball of the foot is one reason many people simply slip and fall when executing any kind of a high kick and thus you have almost no power, because power comes from your strong connection to the ground, which is lost when going up on the toe. This is another reason why we use strong solid stances &amp; keep the foot flat to maximize balance, movement and rooting." CreationDate="2013-12-18T19:11:42.977" UserId="1486" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4527" PostId="281" Score="0" Text="@JediWitness, your comments are noted.  The OP was asking about balance, not power or leg sweeps.  Was your intent to make some point about balance in your comments?" CreationDate="2013-12-18T19:54:52.223" UserId="121" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4528" PostId="281" Score="0" Text="@BobCross - I don't understand the confusion. I was simply responding to your comment on going on the balls of the feet to increase balance, which sacrifices stability, rooting and power and makes one far easier to sweep while decreasing power because because without a strong root, when you hit the target you will be knocked OFF balance, not on it. The less surface area in contact with the floor lowers the coefficient of friction which means you will be moved,  not the target. My entire comment was all related to the fact that going on the balls is not a good idea for various reasons mentioned" CreationDate="2013-12-19T01:41:09.317" UserId="1486" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4529" PostId="281" Score="0" Text="@JediWitness, sorry, this sounds too much like a &quot;my art is better than your art&quot; argument rather than an attempt to address the original question.  If you'd like a more open-ended discussion, perhaps the chat would be a better place to present your points." CreationDate="2013-12-19T02:09:48.513" UserId="121" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4533" PostId="1996" Score="0" Text="Dayum. That is fantastic" CreationDate="2013-12-20T14:35:12.193" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4534" PostId="2541" Score="1" Text="I suspect it is very similar except for the addition of hooks which I imagine can be used to cut or catch things as you pull back. It's a move I've seen people in the system I practice but with a regular 9-ring broadsword. I haven't seen this variation on this weapon before though." CreationDate="2013-12-26T00:08:32.527" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4536" PostId="2543" Score="0" Text="Thanks a lot! It sounds to me that what you say might well be true. I will start looking for references and manuals of the 9 ring broadsword instead then!" CreationDate="2013-12-26T14:19:40.540" UserId="1224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4539" PostId="2543" Score="0" Text="@Psyberion, the weapon that you show is a good deal wider than the average broadsword.  It reminds me a bit of the guandao (polearm) blade, moreso than a traditional broadsword.  Perhaps the added weight of the blade adds to the training benefit?  Good luck in finding what you need and please let us know what you find." CreationDate="2013-12-26T14:27:41.263" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4540" PostId="2543" Score="0" Text="Yes, it is. I'd estimate that it's about 9cm closest to the guard, and about 15-20cm at it's broadest. And I agree, it does resemble a guandao, even in blade length. Thank you once again, I will keep you posted if I discover something!" CreationDate="2013-12-26T15:26:15.997" UserId="1224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4541" PostId="2546" Score="1" Text="You say &quot;In general yes&quot;. Does this mean that there are exceptions, or was it just a figure of speech?" CreationDate="2013-12-27T09:46:23.957" UserId="1224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4542" PostId="2546" Score="0" Text="There have been exceptions in the past when in China for example during times of great crisis, masters would train a student with a regular weapon, even heavy ones like the Guan-do or the battle tai chi swords which could only be wielded with two hands. But this ran the risk of increasing injuries so most masters did not train a student in that fashion. The old masters also had special herbal knowledge that could greatly speed healing and increase strength to some degree, so again, that allowed them to break the rules at times. For modern times, slower &amp; lighter is highly advisable" CreationDate="2013-12-27T10:14:27.073" UserId="1486" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4543" PostId="2546" Score="0" Text="Thank you for the elaboration! I will keep this in mind when picking a sword for training!" CreationDate="2013-12-27T10:19:46.140" UserId="1224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4545" PostId="2538" Score="0" Text="This question appears to be off-topic because it is not about martial arts" CreationDate="2013-12-27T13:19:58.430" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4546" PostId="2546" Score="0" Text="@ Psyberion - My pleasure, all the best in your new endeavor." CreationDate="2013-12-27T19:35:07.853" UserId="1486" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4549" PostId="2560" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the answer! I'll keep this in mind as well, and also check out the book(s) you mentioned!" CreationDate="2013-12-30T11:13:03.520" UserId="1224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4551" PostId="2559" Score="0" Text="No problem! Glad I could help. Please note that I have added an important edit at the end." CreationDate="2013-12-30T17:19:04.080" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4552" PostId="2559" Score="0" Text="Yes, I Can see that. I will take a look at your edit. Thanks once again!" CreationDate="2013-12-30T17:30:23.067" UserId="1224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4553" PostId="2560" Score="3" Text="No offense, but we know a lot more now than we did in ancient times about how to improve strength and accuracy in physical exercise. To improve power, for example, you do not perform the technique slowly with no weight as you suggest. That's a misunderstanding of what Taiji practice is about. Taiji does it slowly, because you're training internal mechanics, which requires juggling a lot of variables in your mind. Going slowly is required in Taiji just so that your mind can control these variables, until such a time as you can do it at speed. That comes later in Taiji." CreationDate="2013-12-30T17:38:34.780" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4555" PostId="2560" Score="0" Text="Steve- I've practiced slow tai chi for decades as well as tai chi sword and slow does work because it develops the muscles in a different way, as well as the aforementioned chi flow. Yes, part of the reason it's done slowly is to coordinate the breathing with the chi flow, but the slow movement itself also works different muscles that do add to striking power &amp; strength. Fast is also necessary for more explosive power as well as fighting speed application. But slow motions movements when practicing anything is one of those little known secrets to strength &amp; power most think is useless." CreationDate="2013-12-30T20:09:56.637" UserId="1486" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4556" PostId="2560" Score="0" Text="Steve - Today only the basic physics or kinematics of strength are specifically known over the ancients, that doesn't mean that using basic weight training is more effective than the old methods as I've mentioned and I know from experience over decades in training with body builders and those that focus on weight training. I've always been significantly stronger and had far greater striking power than those that were 3 times my size because I use the old methods of training. They were all shocked at this &amp; always asked how was I so much stronger than they, my above response is the answer." CreationDate="2013-12-30T20:11:07.143" UserId="1486" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4557" PostId="2560" Score="3" Text="Taiji has very little to do with &quot;chi flow&quot; and breathing. Those are secondary aspects of Taiji that are typically added or concentrated on for health benefits and meditation, not for martial arts. Going slow is required by Taiji in order to learn the fundamentals of internal mechanics. If you've been told you're guiding chi to places with your breath, and your instructor hasn't told you what's going on with internal mechanics, you're probably not doing a martial form of Taiji, or your instructor doesn't know it or doesn't teach it. Power is speed and strength. It doesn't come from being slow." CreationDate="2013-12-30T20:26:20.633" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4558" PostId="2560" Score="0" Text="No, Breathing and chi flow have EVERYTHING to do with Tai Chi, as it is an internal martial art where the power comes mainly from the chi itself &amp; the relaxed muscles. This is why sitting meditation is a critical part of tai chi training. If someone doesn't know that then they don't understand the art at all. It's ALL about chi flow, that why the word CHI is in the name of the art. Sitting meditation is to help achieve the Grand circulation to get the chi to flow from the dan tien to the limbs &amp; out. In the fighting forms the slow motions movements coordinate with the breath &amp; chi flow, etc." CreationDate="2013-12-30T20:33:36.143" UserId="1486" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4559" PostId="2560" Score="0" Text="This is ALL part of true Martial Tai chi training. Your statement about it being for health is false because Tai chi is NOT a health system, it's one of the most powerful &amp; effective MA ever devised. It's only in Modern times that it's become popular because OF it's health benefits. But Tai chi Masters did not practice the art FOR health, that was a secondary benefit of the training, not it's primary goal. That is only what people think today because it's so popular as a health art, but that is not what it was or is at all, it's first and foremost a very effective MA." CreationDate="2013-12-30T20:35:56.183" UserId="1486" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4560" PostId="2560" Score="0" Text="That is why it even has it's own Sword known as the Tai Chi Sword, including a heavier version known as the Battle Tai Chi Sword, which requires two hands to use. There is slow motion &amp; Fast tai chi for martial purposes, both of which coordinate the chi flow guided by the mind with the breath &amp; movements. Slow it to build up strength &amp; power, fast is for timing &amp; reaction of real world martial applications. Most of the world thinks Tai chi is only for health in the last 50 years because almost no one knows or teaches the martial aspects of the art anymore, hence the confusion in modern times." CreationDate="2013-12-30T20:38:26.587" UserId="1486" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4561" PostId="2555" Score="1" Text="Squeeze a tennis ball. It is one of the simplest and most effective hand and forearm strengthening exercises ever." CreationDate="2013-12-30T20:50:17.567" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4562" PostId="2562" Score="0" Text="Why is it pointless? Can you provide deeper reasons for the statements you're making?" CreationDate="2013-12-30T23:44:53.723" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4563" PostId="2544" Score="1" Text="Maybe White Tiger Kempo? A lot of what I see in what you wrote points to Ed Parker, Nick Cerio, Villari, and the Kajukenbo system. Another thing to keep in mind is that &quot;kenpo&quot; is often used interchangeably with &quot;kempo&quot;, even in the same martial art. Sometimes it's spelled a different way just to spin off a school and separate from the main branch, but it's often just up to a particular preference. There's also &quot;5 Animal Kempo&quot; out there. I don't know if any of those styles are a direct hit." CreationDate="2013-12-31T04:57:25.050" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4564" PostId="2562" Score="2" Text="Just because somebody comes from a certain lineage does not mean he is a good teacher or has certain skills. Lineage charts are pointless as they encourage people to believe that an instructor is a good one just because of his lineage. What about the guys who don't have this fancy lineage? Are they bad teachers? Are they lesser martial artists? It doesn't matter who you get taught by, what matter is the skills and methodology the instructor uses to teach. I've trained with people who came from fancy lineages and had really bad skills. Lineage does not matter." CreationDate="2013-12-31T10:20:28.100" UserId="1475" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4565" PostId="2548" Score="2" Text="I would say that it depends on the instructor. If the instructor is knowledgeable, he/she should be incorporating well rounded exercises into your training. Not all instructors will have the fitness/exercise science background to know how to do that though, in which case, the onus would be left to the student. If you are concerned about preventing further injury, you may want to seek a professional opinion from a physical therapist or fitness trainer." CreationDate="2013-12-31T13:16:14.497" UserId="271" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4566" PostId="2563" Score="0" Text="I used to practice TKD when was very young when I had no knowledge abt fitness, muscle balance or imbalance. Not able to recall much abt it... Could you tell what kind of techniques used the 'pulling muscles' like back, biceps hamstrings in TKD?" CreationDate="2014-01-01T13:22:59.423" UserId="1433" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4567" PostId="2555" Score="2" Text="Are you already doing general strength training? [There is no point in doing activity-specific strength training until you are already at least generally strong in your whole body by objective measures](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/733/347)." CreationDate="2014-01-01T20:47:35.353" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4568" PostId="2551" Score="1" Text="-1 for energy pathways, the false claim that tendons can only be strengthened by static exercises, and the false claim that bodyweight exercises somehow produce a mystical &quot;true strength&quot; that resistance exercises can't." CreationDate="2014-01-01T20:49:46.830" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4569" PostId="2563" Score="0" Text="The hamstring and groin pulls happen pretty rarely in TKD, but they do happen. I think it's almost always due to incorrect leg positions during a kick. Like when you do a side kick, you want the supporting leg to have the foot pointing behind you. That opens up the groin for the side-kick. But, what if you're sparring someone, and it happens so quickly that you didn't have time to get the base leg into proper position for the side-kick but decided to do the side-kick anyway? Then the groin isn't opened up, and the force of the kick fights against it, causing a groin pull." CreationDate="2014-01-01T22:38:08.920" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4570" PostId="2563" Score="1" Text="And as far as hamstring pulls, these can occur when kicking front kicks, round kicks, hook kicks, and ax kicks. Anything which utilizes the hamstring. During the first part of the round kick, for example, you use the quad muscles, but it's when you pull your kick back when you use hamstrings. Sometimes you can get a pull that way, because you're pulling back harder than your hamstrings are capable of. Landing, too, from a kick can introduce heavy loads on the hamstring as you get into a low stance. But is it muscle imbalance or just lack of warming up? I say it's mostly the latter." CreationDate="2014-01-01T22:45:02.760" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4571" PostId="2563" Score="0" Text="A good amount of importance is placed on stretching in TKD. This is probably okay, but not optimal, by the way. Stretching often erodes muscle strength. Instead, &quot;functional&quot; stretching should be done. It's different from the types of stretching typically done in TKD. But TKD does a kind of functional stretching anyway, when they perform kicking / punching drills at the beginning of class. That's where you warm up the muscles, which makes them less susceptible to pulls and strains." CreationDate="2014-01-01T22:47:20.067" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4572" PostId="2563" Score="0" Text="Back and bicep muscles are almost never stressed in TKD. I don't think you'll ever see pulls on those. As for the back, you're always upright in TKD. About the only technique you might see in TKD which torques the back is the butterfly kick. But most TKD schools don't teach it (it's taught primarily in kung-fu styles). The butterfly kick requires tension in the back throughout the technique as well as forming an arch in the back. That can stress lower back muscles." CreationDate="2014-01-01T22:55:53.693" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4573" PostId="2551" Score="0" Text="Tendons are strengthened somewhat by any resistance exercises.. but holding exercises specifically targets the tendons to a far higher degree. Bodyweight exercises DO produce a far more effective and universal strength, as heavy weight strength is extremely direction specific, most of which is not applicable to real world situations, especially fighting situations which is why I've always been stronger than even guys 3x my size, especially in grappling, wrestling, pushing, pulling, twisting and other fighting applications." CreationDate="2014-01-01T23:08:21.413" UserId="1486" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4574" PostId="2563" Score="0" Text="@SwatiPriyadarsini I think it's best to ask this as [a new question](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/ask). This way Steve can give a proper answer instead of typing all these comments." CreationDate="2014-01-02T08:36:42.263" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4575" PostId="2562" Score="1" Text="I think your comment is much better than your current answer. Why not edit it in your answer?" CreationDate="2014-01-02T08:45:30.563" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4576" PostId="2555" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann No, I am actually not. I've been planning to start, though, so thanks for the pointers!" CreationDate="2014-01-02T10:22:07.310" UserId="1224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4578" PostId="2542" Score="4" Text="-1 strength does not come from tendons, nor chi." CreationDate="2014-01-02T21:14:03.093" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4579" PostId="2566" Score="0" Text="Do you actually build up cartilege over the shin?  My understanding had been that it built up pain tolerance and helped the bone itself grow denser over time.  Cartilege is primarily located in joints." CreationDate="2014-01-02T21:20:46.130" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4580" PostId="2538" Score="5" Text="&quot; then Einstein theories needs to be modified &quot; (facepalm)" CreationDate="2014-01-02T21:32:43.110" UserId="1076" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4581" PostId="2542" Score="0" Text="Uh yea, it does. Electrical activity, which is a component of ones life force or chi strength is where ALL strength comes from, whether it's acknowledged or not. I know this as do tens of thousands of others over the centuries. As you get to a level where you can guide the chi with the mind alone, you can literally make yourself stronger, your arms or other parts harder, more powerful and heal injuries just by guiding the chi to those parts. When combined with breathing techniques it can be even more effective. This is what internal martial arts are all about." CreationDate="2014-01-02T21:44:58.383" UserId="1486" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4582" PostId="2555" Score="1" Text="@Psyberion Cool! Consider the [different kinds of lifting](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/855/347) and [martial-arts-oriented general S&amp;C training](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/1756/347)." CreationDate="2014-01-02T21:54:31.437" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4583" PostId="2566" Score="0" Text="Yes, cartalige is primarily located in joints, but it exists in other parts of the body too, such as your nose, ears and rib cage. While it is true that bone gets tougher as is gets damaged, this has nothing to do with pain,since bones have ni connection to the somatosensory system. The periosteum, however, does." CreationDate="2014-01-02T22:22:17.520" UserId="1224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4584" PostId="2566" Score="1" Text="Now that I think of it, one possibility could be that the nerves in the periosteum gets so badly damaged that the sense of pain is dulled, and unfortunately I can't credit a (scientifically) reliable source for my statements, since I've learned them from my former Djeu-Gao and a fellow practioner who is a nurse." CreationDate="2014-01-02T22:22:51.227" UserId="1224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4585" PostId="2555" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I'll take a look at your links! Thanks once again!" CreationDate="2014-01-02T22:24:45.857" UserId="1224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4586" PostId="2538" Score="3" Text="Well, I for one think it does deserve some discussion here in a martial arts forum, because this sort of thing goes on a lot in martial arts as proof of the existence of chi energy and the ability to use it by doing martial arts and chi-kung. It's certainly bogus stuff akin to magic, but it needs to be shown for what it is in order to make sure people don't waste any of their time on it." CreationDate="2014-01-03T05:35:06.190" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4590" PostId="2581" Score="1" Text="and an accomplised fighter is going to be one of the better teachers they have been there done that, you know walked your walk. Even if they were not a great fighter they have the experience of fighting against another skilled oppenent." CreationDate="2014-01-04T12:58:52.277" UserId="1589" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4592" PostId="2583" Score="3" Text="This question appears to be off-topic because it is about local events." CreationDate="2014-01-06T08:25:03.043" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4593" PostId="2583" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion Now it's not." CreationDate="2014-01-06T12:59:57.097" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4595" PostId="2379" Score="1" Text="Yes, the body does need rest, but the thing is to train different things on different days... if you wear out your legs one day, work on the core or arms the next.  You can train every day as long as you focus a differently each day." CreationDate="2014-01-07T08:54:19.670" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4598" PostId="1807" Score="0" Text="Just a caveat - I ruptured my Achilles tendon on a switch stance. No partner, doing something we teach to white belts, and it blew out. Injuries can happen even when training alone." CreationDate="2014-01-07T14:56:35.203" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4599" PostId="2593" Score="0" Text="Interesting as in this article it describes on how Bob wall and chuck Norris easily did pull ups when van dammed had trouble, it seems that people who do different things on physiques, size, everything biological has its advantages and disadvantages. Here is the article: Bill “Superfoot” Wallace on Chuck Norris, Dolph Lundgren, Bob Wall and Jean-Claude Van Damme" CreationDate="2014-01-07T19:13:25.293" UserId="1453" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4600" PostId="1505" Score="1" Text="Yes! Avoiding toxic/abusive schools is critical!  I can't upvote your answer enough times." CreationDate="2014-01-07T19:32:41.333" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4601" PostId="2596" Score="0" Text="Thx. Cold/Hot showers seem to help for me as well." CreationDate="2014-01-08T08:00:44.583" UserId="718" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4607" PostId="2594" Score="0" Text="Thanks! These are both quite helpful. I like that they are concrete actions to take." CreationDate="2014-01-08T15:51:49.493" UserId="682" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4608" PostId="1251" Score="1" Text="&quot;The Gracies never fought any other top Kickboxer...&quot; What about Gordeau? He was the &quot;1991 World Champion Savate and holder of the Dutch Champion Kyokushin Karate title&quot; and Royce beat him pretty handily in '93. Rickson in particular smashed everyone put in front of him. Its very strange that 20 years later, everyone is pretending that BJJ didn't absolutely destroy the illusion of stand-up-only fighting supremacy." CreationDate="2014-01-08T18:57:18.143" UserId="1076" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4609" PostId="1251" Score="0" Text="As far as Tyson goes, there's no reason to believe that 1993 Tyson, with ZERO grappling training, would fare any better than 2010 James Toney, who had great training partners and months of takedown defense training, and yet was effortlessly taken down and subbed by an over-the-hill Couture." CreationDate="2014-01-08T18:59:51.530" UserId="1076" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4610" PostId="1947" Score="3" Text="@JPHellemons which is why there's four paragraphs explaining the origin of modern *wafuku*, the law affecting its wear at various points, and the customs of order in Japanese culture." CreationDate="2014-01-08T19:05:07.783" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4612" PostId="2538" Score="0" Text="Annie Abbot, aka &quot;The Georgia Magnet&quot;, circa 1884, toured and performed hot on the heels of Lulu Hurst, the original &quot;Georgia Wonder&quot;. It's a practiced feat of leverage and center of gravity, and has nothing to do with Chi/Qi." CreationDate="2014-01-08T19:25:17.220" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4615" PostId="1947" Score="3" Text="I know, but my point is that http://www.bookmice.net/darkchilde/japan/khist3.html explains that women had right over left. Man had to wear it left over right because of the weapons. I believe that weapons are the main reason and because of that, I voted for Dungarth's answer." CreationDate="2014-01-09T09:06:26.937" UserId="212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4616" PostId="2091" Score="1" Text="A stupid comment by someone who has most likely never done grappling. This comment is stupid considering the words &quot;twist his nipple&quot; are included." CreationDate="2014-01-09T14:24:30.187" UserId="1475" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4617" PostId="2091" Score="1" Text="And yet what I suggested is very effective. The mind boggles." CreationDate="2014-01-09T14:42:13.397" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4618" PostId="2091" Score="1" Text="Ok, think about this....what if the guy who has grappling skills decides to use eye gauging too? It's going to be a pretty bad day if someone has mount on you and is gauging your eyes out. But then again....as you said....you could &quot;twist the nipple&quot;. I'll have to try that in the next competition I'm in." CreationDate="2014-01-09T14:50:44.343" UserId="1475" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4619" PostId="2091" Score="0" Text="I don't know what to tell you man. I've never been mounted by a guy before. All I know is that I will inflict much suffering on any that try. Beginning with the eyes and other soft targets." CreationDate="2014-01-09T15:03:22.707" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4620" PostId="2091" Score="1" Text="@JuannStrauss If you have no experience in the situation, you might consider deferring to those who do. (You say what you suggest is very effective--*how do you know that?*) Eye gouging someone who is on top of you is a pretty bad idea if they have even the first clue about how to wrestle." CreationDate="2014-01-09T15:16:22.637" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4621" PostId="2091" Score="2" Text="Maybe you should look into Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and see what the mount position is and educate yourself." CreationDate="2014-01-09T15:16:41.597" UserId="1475" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4622" PostId="2091" Score="0" Text="I know these things are effective because I have practical experience." CreationDate="2014-01-09T16:36:52.663" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4623" PostId="2091" Score="0" Text="@JuannStrauss &quot;Practical experience&quot; in this case would mean &quot;I have been mounted before&quot;, which you said you haven't been. I'm seriously recommending that you find an experienced grappler, spar with them, and specifically request that they try to mount you." CreationDate="2014-01-10T11:51:39.120" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4625" PostId="2620" Score="2" Text="'...it comes up a lot in real life'?? Perhaps this applies to you and where you live, but personally I've never been in such a situation and neither have any of my family members, friends and collegues AFAIK." CreationDate="2014-01-10T12:41:22.013" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4627" PostId="166" Score="1" Text="Krav maga isn't all that. I've seen some ridiculous techniques being taught for when a person is attempting to grapple or take down an opponent. I've also seen you can obtain a qualification Krav Maga online, that says a lot about it's legitimacy." CreationDate="2014-01-10T16:22:51.943" UserId="1475" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4628" PostId="183" Score="0" Text="If you're a fan of MMA you'll know that the best martial arts are: Boxing, Thai Boxing, Judo, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Wrestling. Having any of these skills and being in fit shape you'll be safe as you can run like hell too!" CreationDate="2014-01-10T16:24:08.183" UserId="1475" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4629" PostId="166" Score="3" Text="Everything I learned was always pretty straightforward. As for online qualification - that says more about the qualifying body than about Krav Maga. You can get a college degree online - that doesn't mean all college degrees have questionable legitimacy." CreationDate="2014-01-10T19:56:13.313" UserId="107" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4630" PostId="2620" Score="0" Text="I thought that was common sense, though? Obviously there are things that you're going to encounter that nobody else will, and vice-versa. The type of attack that I described is actually fairly common in my opinion. It happens in an instant. A guy decides to go off on you. He rushes you and starts flailing his arms around (not a trained fighter). I see this in lots of videos of real fights. It happened to me. It happened to several friends of mine. I think it's definitely worthy of practice. And like I said, it spills over into many other scenarios, so there's a lot of benefit to working on it." CreationDate="2014-01-10T20:47:05.690" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4631" PostId="2622" Score="0" Text="Especially Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, it will give him more self-confidence when fighting on the ground." CreationDate="2014-01-13T07:57:11.640" UserId="500" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4632" PostId="2626" Score="0" Text="I think the last part of your question ('and if there is something...') makes it rather broad (list question). What exactly are you looking for?" CreationDate="2014-01-13T08:34:41.933" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4633" PostId="794" Score="0" Text="Related question: ['Is Static Stretching Before Practice Beneficial, Harmful, or Something In-between?](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/648/88)" CreationDate="2014-01-13T08:53:16.027" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4634" PostId="2633" Score="0" Text="That's not really a short period of time, especially when training three or four times a week. And arguably it would be made easier if they had experience in other martial arts before starting BJJ." CreationDate="2014-01-13T09:10:10.490" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4636" PostId="2633" Score="5" Text="@slugster You seem to be using standards for Japanese arts to measure how normal 3-5 years to black belt is. A black belt in BJJ usually takes 8-10 years. BJ Penn and Demian Maia advanced to the highest levels in an incredibly short period of time." CreationDate="2014-01-13T12:46:49.003" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4638" PostId="1655" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion Could you give an example of an explosive aikido move?" CreationDate="2014-01-13T13:40:06.230" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4639" PostId="1655" Score="0" Text="Any technique that involves abruptly changing the direction of movement such as in full or partial resitence randori.  For example, all the hontai no tsukuri leading to [atmi waza](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EONhLNUDf_s) and in [hiji mochi no tsukuri](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTT172hEt1w) leading to whatever technique you wish to apply." CreationDate="2014-01-13T13:51:51.663" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4641" PostId="72" Score="1" Text="This question appears to be off-topic because it is about issues which are localized by geography, time and politics, and therefore the answers are not useful either as reference or to the general public." CreationDate="2014-01-15T11:52:21.010" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4642" PostId="1251" Score="3" Text="@bcmoney When asked about a hypothetical fight against Royce, Mike Tyson replied, &quot;It doesn’t matter. If I hit him with a good punch, OK, but **if he gets hold of me and in a position I’m not familiar with, I’m not going to win the fight.** I would have to be equipped with grappling skills as well. Gracie changed the whole game around. To be involved in this kind of fight, you have to know that style right off the bat.&quot;" CreationDate="2014-01-15T12:36:08.227" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4644" PostId="2642" Score="1" Text="Wikipedia is not a reference, the article does not reference anything to do with martial arts, and its link to the text is broken. Could you find the exact text of the resolution?" CreationDate="2014-01-15T12:54:15.837" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4645" PostId="2642" Score="1" Text="**I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV.** That said, I do not believe that a UN resolution automatically translate into the law of any country whether they signed it or not. A quick and dirty search shows that they are considered &quot;recommendations&quot; by article 10 and 14.  Admittedly, that was from wikipedia which, as I said before, is not a reference. Still, it should be east to verify. Apparently *Sergei A. Voitovich, International Economic Organizations in the International Legal Process, p. 95. Martinus Nijhoff Publishers, 1995. ISBN 0-7923-2766-7* has the meat of the matter." CreationDate="2014-01-15T13:00:47.123" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4646" PostId="2640" Score="0" Text="+1 for the first paragraph. -1 for anecdotal evidence and hear say." CreationDate="2014-01-15T13:10:10.453" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4648" PostId="1251" Score="0" Text="@Graham I'm not pretending BJJ didn't have a massive influence on the sport (nor am I ignoring the influence and importance that it does continue to hold). For the record I train it myself and have attended a seminar where I got to roll with Royce. He obliterated me. I'm just pointing out the obvious that the first UFCs were billed as best-against-best when it was clearly not the case. Despite regional championships Gordeau was a top 100 at best in the overall Kickboxing world (mostly open weight rankings back then), while Royce was clearly top 10 in the world in grappling skill/knowledge." CreationDate="2014-01-15T14:46:38.147" UserId="1213" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4650" PostId="1251" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann &#xA;Tyson has been humbled of late, but if the big boxing money he was used to earning went into a Royce Gracie .vs. Mike Tyson fight @ UFC 1, its only speculation, but I still doubt Royce's chances. Tyson was incredibly motivated and confident back then and possibly the only ego that could have overcome a Gracie in their heyday. The only reason I would call it 60-40 Tyson-Gracie rather than 80-20 is because of the lack of even 4oz. gloves. If Tyson didn't learn how to punch without breaking his hand, all it would have taken would be one errant punch to take away his main weapons." CreationDate="2014-01-15T14:54:31.353" UserId="1213" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4651" PostId="2640" Score="0" Text="@sadrdathrion. Hearsay?  If you are referring to the state trooper I will rephrase he is also the state trooper that arrested the individual who swung the bat at me. The only reason I was not arrested was the 2 witness that verified the fact I did it in self defense." CreationDate="2014-01-15T15:52:59.290" UserId="1609" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4652" PostId="2640" Score="0" Text="Yes, I was referring to the state trouper.  It makes more sense if he is part of your anecdote." CreationDate="2014-01-15T16:38:19.890" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4653" PostId="1251" Score="0" Text="@bcmoney I see the confusion. Regardless of the billing, it wasn't seriously considered to be &quot;best of the best&quot;. Royce wasn't a BJJ champion--that was more Rickson and Royler. Regardless, we've strayed from the point: it's patently absurd to claim that pure striking is a reliable defense against grappling." CreationDate="2014-01-15T17:15:57.460" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4654" PostId="2642" Score="3" Text="Now I want to go down to the local police station, demand they put me on their list of registered deadly martial artists, and look at the confused look on their faces." CreationDate="2014-01-15T18:26:20.723" UserId="84" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4655" PostId="2643" Score="0" Text="Thanks a lot for your response! I haven't thought of it this way, so I'm really greatful!" CreationDate="2014-01-15T19:33:48.490" UserId="1224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4656" PostId="1947" Score="1" Text="The nara period was over 1000 years ago, and about 700-800 years before most arts of Japanese origin in which one would wear a *gi* were even codified." CreationDate="2014-01-15T20:40:11.443" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4657" PostId="2645" Score="0" Text="Very well said." CreationDate="2014-01-16T08:38:56.097" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4658" PostId="2641" Score="0" Text="While things like &quot;Tai Sabaki&quot; and &quot;Mae Geri&quot; may sound fancy, they're really not, and says the exact same thing you're saying here - &quot;he's charging where you were at...so don't be there.&quot; Sometimes, the safest place in a fight is actually a hair's breadth from your opponent." CreationDate="2014-01-16T16:37:32.853" UserId="341" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4659" PostId="2620" Score="1" Text="+1 for making use of all dimensions and not just left/right, front/back. Too many people forget that sometimes, your best best is to drop down onto the ground." CreationDate="2014-01-16T16:41:54.997" UserId="341" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4660" PostId="2646" Score="0" Text="Bandana worked for me." CreationDate="2014-01-16T17:19:40.890" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4661" PostId="2647" Score="3" Text="In what martial art are hair grabs legal in sport? I don't think that's part of the question." CreationDate="2014-01-16T17:44:20.117" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4662" PostId="2647" Score="0" Text="After looking up MMA rules, I've found that hair pulling is illegal.  Probably the reason most MMA fighters braid their hair is to prevent it getting in their face as opposed to fear of having it grabbed.  I still think there's beneficial info in the answer I gave though, so I'll look at editing it." CreationDate="2014-01-16T17:57:08.167" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4663" PostId="2646" Score="0" Text="@Dave Liepmann, Bandanas and buffs didn't work for me. I have long hair and in a clinch they come off easily." CreationDate="2014-01-16T19:22:25.033" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4664" PostId="2646" Score="0" Text="are there maybe other types of wax which don't rinse out as easily?" CreationDate="2014-01-16T19:23:50.307" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4665" PostId="2646" Score="2" Text="@Vass Well to me the best wax has been Nu Nile (which is also a product of Murrays). It's strength is somewhere between Murrays and Murrays soft. It isn't really strong enough to keep the hair out of your eyes though though." CreationDate="2014-01-16T19:36:15.290" UserId="422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4666" PostId="2646" Score="0" Text="@Dave Liepmann Did you train grappling with it? I can't imagine this would work well since it's not flexible or really fixed to the head.." CreationDate="2014-01-16T19:38:51.227" UserId="422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4667" PostId="2646" Score="1" Text="@BartBurg The bandana was for non-combat sports in my case. For grappling I just cut my hair or deal with it. I haven't seen a good solution other cornrows, which defeats the purpose of long hair in the first place." CreationDate="2014-01-16T19:49:59.667" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4668" PostId="1077" Score="0" Text="I had a interesting conversation with my physiotherapist about this matter. Apparently it is proven icing or putting it in an iced bath is good, even after a longer while. It has the same effect as warmth does.&#xA;&#xA;The way this works according to her: the moment your body notices an area is too cold, it will send extra blood to that area so it can warm up. That extra blood will help with healing. &#xA;&#xA;So her final advice: ice it occasionally, try to keep it warm for the rest of the day. (this next to the right balance of resting and light movement)" CreationDate="2014-01-16T19:50:43.643" UserId="422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4669" PostId="2617" Score="4" Text="There are so many things you can do/train for these situations. In my opinion the most important thing is: don't try to out-power the stronger opponent. Try to either evade, deflect or use his movement/power. Don't be discouraged by it either: putting much power or weight behind a technique often means it is a lot easier to be countered. I'm not pointing to any specific style to train for I believe many fight styles have there solution for these situations." CreationDate="2014-01-16T20:00:19.880" UserId="422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4670" PostId="254" Score="0" Text="Why no sparring? That's generally the best way to get good at recognizing tells." CreationDate="2014-01-16T21:38:02.423" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4671" PostId="2620" Score="0" Text="Yes, the ground is a great equalizer. If someone is attacking you who's larger and has longer reach, then taking it to the ground is often the best choice. On the ground, that size advantage is worth a lot less than on the feet, especially if this is someone not trained in grappling." CreationDate="2014-01-17T02:54:01.213" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4672" PostId="2648" Score="0" Text="This seems to be a good post but I didn't understand: You are thinking rationally." CreationDate="2014-01-17T06:54:17.600" UserId="500" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4673" PostId="2650" Score="0" Text="Getting hair in my eyes doesn't give me a huge disadvantage, as I am still able to see and fight well. It's more the unnecessary irritation of the eyes. Also, braided hair barely comes lose so this is not a problem in competition." CreationDate="2014-01-17T08:09:48.377" UserId="422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4674" PostId="2648" Score="1" Text="@BadaBoom To me, that means that focusing on good posture, survival in each position, and escapes means that instead of freaking out when put in a bad position the student can think calmly and rationally about what they *should* be doing instead of spazzing out trying to do &quot;*anything, oh god get me out of here what's going on*&quot;" CreationDate="2014-01-17T08:21:47.630" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4680" PostId="2653" Score="3" Text="Maybe I should try and develop a new product then ;)" CreationDate="2014-01-17T09:53:01.370" UserId="422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4681" PostId="2650" Score="0" Text="Is this an answer? There is nothing constructive about this argument to invalidate the purpose of even trying to deal with the problem of 'long hair' in mma. It pretty much saying deal with the problem and doing so is better for you in the long run." CreationDate="2014-01-17T11:20:47.263" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4682" PostId="2650" Score="2" Text="1. It's not an argument. 2. It is most certainly constructive. 3. Well yes, successful people take measures that help them in the long run. I always give the best solution to a problem, rather than a quick fix that may lead to other problems." CreationDate="2014-01-17T12:00:01.923" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4683" PostId="2641" Score="0" Text="I agree. The original message, however, does not suggest the person with the question knows anything about martial arts. If I asked an engineering question when I don't give any indication that I know anything about engineering, I would likely to be turned off by what I'd consider to be jargon. To this person, the Japanese terms may be jargon. Not saying anything bad about the messages that contain it, but we don't know whether that is intimidating (and therefore, not helpful) to the person asking." CreationDate="2014-01-17T17:18:28.127" UserId="1502" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4684" PostId="2618" Score="1" Text="&quot;If this person is a trained grappler, tap.&quot;  I never though about this... +1!" CreationDate="2014-01-17T19:23:27.310" UserId="33" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4685" PostId="2619" Score="2" Text="+1; as an aikidoka, I'd love to have an attacker charge at me.  \*rubs hands together\* mmmm, yesssssss. (that said, if I were actually 'fighting' [and ignoring what that means], I would _never_ stick to just Aikido - I'll be using whatever I can to win, thankyouverymuch!)" CreationDate="2014-01-17T19:27:04.783" UserId="33" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4687" PostId="2654" Score="2" Text="When you quote sections verbatim from other sites please make it obvious within your answer that you are quoting an external source. As someone involved in academia you should understand the need for that." CreationDate="2014-01-20T11:56:39.223" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4688" PostId="2635" Score="0" Text="Can you provide sources of how they train. Do they roll every day? How do they manage to train multiple times in a day? As a working person is it realizable?" CreationDate="2014-01-21T06:57:13.207" UserId="500" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4689" PostId="2635" Score="0" Text="@BadaBoom I have no sources, it's just what is commonly recognized and stated casually. Yes they roll 5-6 days a week, though perhaps not in every workout. They manage it with a lot of effort, sacrifice, and tradeoffs. Every person's situation is different but it is very difficult to train 10+ times a week if you have a job...but I hear of people that manage it." CreationDate="2014-01-21T09:03:48.230" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4690" PostId="2663" Score="0" Text="Does it have a name ?" CreationDate="2014-01-21T09:23:43.090" UserId="1463" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4692" PostId="2671" Score="2" Text="You mean braid the ponytail? At the moment my hair is too short for a braiding the ponytail. But I would like to try your method when it's long enough!." CreationDate="2014-01-21T18:55:41.477" UserId="422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4693" PostId="2664" Score="0" Text="Luckily both MMA and my grappling training sessions are without gi. Your answer does sound interesting though, I have never heard about someone getting such a bold spot in training." CreationDate="2014-01-21T18:58:49.867" UserId="422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4694" PostId="2660" Score="0" Text="After reading your thoughts, it occurs to me that from your description you are saying regular linework and kata are effectively identical (except the kata has turns). Your description does nothing to explain why kata like Sanchin, Seisan and Bassai Dai exist. If you accept Funakoshi as a reliable source (which you should!) then read his book *Karate Jutsu* from what I've been told (by someone who owns it - it is reasonably rare) he is quite explicit with his descriptions of bunkai and &quot;hidden meanings&quot; which you are endeavouring to debunk." CreationDate="2014-01-21T22:57:52.433" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4695" PostId="2660" Score="0" Text="With regards to &quot;hidden meanings&quot; - without a doubt there will have been many charlatans who have tried to leverage this for their own reasons, however it is safe to say that there are indeed many &quot;hidden&quot; or nuanced meanings in the bunkai of kata. Once you understand them basic techniques like Soto Uke and Age Uke can be used in several different ways - the **last** thing I would use them for is &quot;blocking punches or attempted strikes with a beer bottle or baseball bat&quot;, which unfortunately is what a lot of instructors teach them as." CreationDate="2014-01-21T23:09:10.960" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4696" PostId="2664" Score="1" Text="Usually when I go for a brabo or baseball bat choke on someone with longer hair I have a lot of their neckhair in my hands. I'm gentle, but I still come out of the match with some hair in my hands sometimes. Not because of viciousness, but because when you grab the gi, there's just hair there, even when you regrip.&#xA;(please train with a Gi, it'll help you understand different things than just no-gi, they key to unlocking awesome jiujitsu is doing both, especially if you dislike either. )" CreationDate="2014-01-22T05:02:08.853" UserId="1207" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4697" PostId="1577" Score="2" Text="THANK You for finally providing a sane answer to this question. Everyone else is nut-riding Karate and TKD, but from what I've read, none of them has actually ever been punched in the face in reality. I am glad not everyone is deluded. It also saves me from typing that all up +1" CreationDate="2014-01-22T05:14:23.087" UserId="1207" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4698" PostId="1635" Score="1" Text="From my experience as a bouncer, most times when someone is hit, they immediately either flee or try to clinch. From there, they stumble and fall." CreationDate="2014-01-22T05:18:56.400" UserId="1207" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4699" PostId="2663" Score="0" Text="Free Fighting? I think it is called MMA (Mixed Martial Arts) mostly around the world. Every MMA teacher will teach things differently; some will focus on clinching, others on boxing, others on ground fighting, it will depend where their skills lay." CreationDate="2014-01-22T05:23:20.980" UserId="1207" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4700" PostId="2663" Score="0" Text="No, what they are teaching." CreationDate="2014-01-22T08:31:05.913" UserId="1463" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4702" PostId="2635" Score="3" Text="@BadaBoom Gianni Grippo, newly promoted black belt, says at about [4:00 of this video](http://youtu.be/6_IEg-qbdZg?t=4m) that during his early days of training as an adolescent, he'd train an hour of gi and an hour of no-gi, 6 days a week. I think if anything he does more now as an elite adult competitor." CreationDate="2014-01-22T17:27:08.053" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4703" PostId="2663" Score="0" Text="Whichever name the instructor uses to call it? There is no 'official' single style called 'free fighting' that has an umbrella organization or something like that like for example Karate or Brazillian Jiu Jitsu or Boxing. It's kind of a generic catch-all name that basically stands for Mixed Martial Arts (e.g. techniques from all kinds of fighting arts)." CreationDate="2014-01-22T17:58:47.877" UserId="1207" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4705" PostId="2674" Score="0" Text="Thanks a lot for your advice! I'm glad you mentioned the poor quality of the Hanwei federschwert; I've actually thought of buying one. And the swing looks very interesting, so I'll take a closer look at this!" CreationDate="2014-01-22T23:15:08.047" UserId="1224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4713" PostId="2620" Score="0" Text="I'm downvoting this because anecdotal experience of getting your ass kicked (once) in college isn't the same as an answer, especially when you make a thousand assumptions that are false. The advice to go to the ground is not bad, but you can't just say hook the leg/ do a takedown; takedowns are hard, especially if someone is charging into you and you have no experience in grappling. Clearly you've put some thought into this, and not all is bunk; but theory needs to be tested and applied before you can give it as advice, and there's none of that here because you'd have answered differently." CreationDate="2014-01-23T05:20:31.530" UserId="1207" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4714" PostId="2620" Score="0" Text="Basically, your strategies might work but you forgot the most important part of advice: TRAIN!" CreationDate="2014-01-23T05:26:04.143" UserId="1207" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4716" PostId="2675" Score="0" Text="Welcome to Martial Arts! I think you forgot a few words in your last 2 sentences. What exactly is it you are trying to say there? Also, can you give examples of aikido moves (names) that may help in this case?" CreationDate="2014-01-23T09:35:02.260" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4717" PostId="2674" Score="1" Text="@Psyberion Glad I could help:). I just saw on your profile you are from Sweden? In that case you might want to consider contacting these guys http://www.ghfs.se/. They are a well known club and host one of the biggest HEMA events every year. They probably know the guy who makes the swing, making it easier to buy one;). Also they might be able to inform you on equipment. As for feders. I think most of them use the Regenyei feders which are around €200. It's big investment ,but considering you swing it at other people and don't want to hurt them accidentally I'd go for quality not price :P" CreationDate="2014-01-23T12:33:19.027" UserId="1630" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4719" PostId="2674" Score="0" Text="Yes, that is correct, and I've seen them before. Unfortunately Gothenburg is on the west coast, and I live on the east coast. But I May be able to go there some time to train perhaps. Anyway, thanks again, I'll have a look at the Regenyei feder! :)" CreationDate="2014-01-24T00:31:10.533" UserId="1224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4722" PostId="232" Score="0" Text="Kata trains the mind and muscle memory." CreationDate="2014-01-22T10:15:16.823" UserId="1273" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4723" PostId="2680" Score="0" Text="I don't mean to de-rail this question (and since it's already answered, I'm not super worried), but I'm curious: if `fully commit[ting] all of your breath or energy is a full yang technique`, what constitutes a 'full yin technique'?" CreationDate="2014-01-27T00:04:31.033" UserId="33" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4724" PostId="2680" Score="0" Text="Full yin is often considered stillness, full yang is full movement, full power, full commitment to a strike or movement with total abandon." CreationDate="2014-01-27T03:19:27.030" UserId="1486" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4726" PostId="1808" Score="2" Text="+1 for &quot;Sex causes pregnancy, STDs, and this --&gt; feelings&quot;" CreationDate="2014-01-27T15:11:35.837" UserId="1645" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4728" PostId="2089" Score="0" Text="@Thonams Denmark Uylenbr, I have never seen a &quot;I spin out of the way when I throw the hook.&quot;, could you describe in a few words what it is or provide a video link? thanks" CreationDate="2014-01-28T09:03:00.687" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4729" PostId="2671" Score="0" Text="Interesting answer, I never thought of the tail going on the side, will try it out and get back to confirm!" CreationDate="2014-01-28T09:07:54.753" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4730" PostId="2534" Score="0" Text="Agreed.  Probably better to go with a TKD school that puts emphasis on good unarmed technique.  Remember you can always go to a different school to learn weapons, such as a school that just teaches Iaido or Kali." CreationDate="2014-01-28T12:53:01.367" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4731" PostId="2465" Score="0" Text="I agree adding some weapons to the curriculum may be quite interesting, in fact that could only improve things!! Only time will tell." CreationDate="2014-01-28T03:01:31.520" UserDisplayName="user1647" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4734" PostId="2671" Score="0" Text="I tried this yesterday, it is great that the point where the hair is tied does not get rubbed on directly, but it does not really help the front area from being rubbed and hair coming loose from there" CreationDate="2014-01-30T13:15:36.783" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4735" PostId="2694" Score="0" Text="What I'm gradually getting to know from online resources is that if we find popping associated with increase in flexibility, it is a sign that flexibility and strength of muscles around the joint aren't in balance. Will see a PT soon..." CreationDate="2014-01-31T12:37:12.437" UserId="1433" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4736" PostId="2690" Score="2" Text="This is not an answer to the question" CreationDate="2014-02-01T09:51:00.237" UserId="422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4737" PostId="2703" Score="0" Text="great answer, could you tell me with any description how much **force** you think is needed behind a punch to break a nose?" CreationDate="2014-02-02T01:46:16.700" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4741" PostId="2706" Score="0" Text="Denmark Uylenbr, how would it compare to the strength put into a pushup?" CreationDate="2014-02-04T01:17:05.817" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4742" PostId="2703" Score="0" Text="@Vass It totally depends on the nose cartilage being struck (it will vary per person), but in general it doesn't take a lot of force at all - the same force as generated via a push up (per your comment below) would do it." CreationDate="2014-02-04T03:24:07.423" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4743" PostId="2710" Score="1" Text="Good answer, except in Muay Thai you want a 50/50 distribution of your weight. So I would rephrase your first sentence to say &quot;remove weight from the front leg&quot;, just to emphasize that you're not placing lots of weight on the back foot." CreationDate="2014-02-04T04:53:33.807" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4744" PostId="2706" Score="1" Text="I have no idea how to answer that. Hit people hard enough that they feel it, but not hard enough to hurt them? It also depends on the person you're sparring, and I hit harder to the body than to the head - I don't want to cause anyone brain trauma, they need their brain to learn." CreationDate="2014-02-04T06:28:08.713" UserId="1207" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4745" PostId="1309" Score="0" Text="not hard for jiu jitsu or sambo practitioners" CreationDate="2014-02-04T07:52:16.663" UserId="500" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4747" PostId="2712" Score="1" Text="Do you mean under IBJJF rules?" CreationDate="2014-02-04T10:58:56.180" UserId="373" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4752" PostId="2715" Score="0" Text="Ok, you want Black belt level skills in as fast a time as possible! Ask yourself this: How long does it take to learn a language? Probably about 5/10 years unless you're a kid who can absorb everything super quick just like BJ Penn did in 3 years with his black belt. My advice to you is forget about trying to be the best and having the best skills as quick as possible and just have fun. The more you enjoy it the quicker you will progress. If you're THAT guy at the gym who only cares about being the best as quick as possible you're going to progress very slowly." CreationDate="2014-02-04T15:52:11.283" UserId="1475" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4753" PostId="2690" Score="0" Text="Sorry, i must have misread the question. Tying it up or braiding it up would work. I have seen people doing it." CreationDate="2014-02-05T02:33:15.433" UserId="1650" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4756" PostId="2724" Score="0" Text="Mike the baratoplata was my next question. You answered it :p" CreationDate="2014-02-05T07:04:56.303" UserId="500" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4757" PostId="2729" Score="4" Text="I voted to close because your question is too broad and invites discussions. The latter is very much not supported by SE sites. This would make for an interesting conversation but this Q&amp;A site is not the place for it." CreationDate="2014-02-05T07:56:41.593" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4758" PostId="2730" Score="2" Text="I would imagine that having strong neck-muscles would help." CreationDate="2014-02-05T08:18:47.450" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4759" PostId="2729" Score="3" Text="I agree with Sardathrion. Interesting question, but as it is too broad and basically a list question. Better suited to be discussed on [chat](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/2353/the-dojo)" CreationDate="2014-02-05T09:41:51.250" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4761" PostId="2729" Score="0" Text="I think with a few nudges this question would do fine in the Q&amp;A format. Nigel has posed a specific question about the purpose of training. Instead of getting on a high horse about proper questions, **EDIT THE QUESTION** so it fits the guidelines." CreationDate="2014-02-05T13:03:26.733" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4762" PostId="2737" Score="1" Text="Losers, maybe.  Trolling, most definitively: instead of a goal, I believe they were pointing to the road. Finding a goal is easy but walking the path is hard.  Which is more or less what you are saying...  Although, I am not sure you answered the question -- whatever the question was." CreationDate="2014-02-05T14:10:29.983" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4763" PostId="2729" Score="1" Text="@DaveLiepmann: I honestly cannot find a way to ask &quot;Why do you train&quot; in a way that would fit SE without being a list of things, too broad, and so personal that no one answer would fit more than a few people unless platitudes are given.  If you think you can, go for it!" CreationDate="2014-02-05T14:15:51.673" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4764" PostId="2729" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion Have you read [Good Subjective, Bad Subjective](http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/09/good-subjective-bad-subjective/)? This question inspires long &quot;why&quot; and &quot;how&quot; answers that share experiences. It's more than just social fun. This is a good subjective question. SE is *not* supposed to be knee-jerk opposed to this kind of question." CreationDate="2014-02-05T14:35:48.100" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4765" PostId="2714" Score="0" Text="could you give some tips for each of these situations? And a general rule for the stance? And maybe describe the basic lifting motion? thanks" CreationDate="2014-02-05T14:57:05.147" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4766" PostId="2714" Score="0" Text="@Vass I'm really not qualified to describe the stance any more than pointing out potential problems that I've had. The lifting motion is just 1/10 of the checking motion: bringing the foot up an inch or two like the start of a check." CreationDate="2014-02-05T15:03:57.503" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4767" PostId="2729" Score="0" Text="This is a very opinion based question that is impossible to answer objectively.  More than that, it's something that's going to be a personal journey, and a question you'll ask yourself time and again throughout your martial arts career." CreationDate="2014-02-05T15:05:15.873" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4768" PostId="2729" Score="2" Text="@DaveLiepmann - I've read good/bad before, and I think this misses on points 5 and 6. It's close, but I don't think it's a good subjective question." CreationDate="2014-02-05T15:16:38.363" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4769" PostId="2737" Score="3" Text="Your prejudices are showing. If I had a student that I asked that question and they respond &quot;I love to spar&quot;, that indicates a more superficial view, and I would also ask &quot;What happens if you couldn't spar any more?&quot;. I think they are inviting him to see beyond his current somewhat myopic viewpoint. Also, if you have someone that truly enjoys what you call &quot;soft&quot; training, is that a bad thing? Is it only really martial arts training if you're throwing around small cars and running into walls to toughen yourself?" CreationDate="2014-02-05T15:19:17.393" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4770" PostId="2731" Score="7" Text="-1 for recommending self asphyxiation as a way to train. I mean, seriously? Should we also start cutting/stabbing ourselves to train against knife attacks?" CreationDate="2014-02-05T15:22:51.877" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4771" PostId="2729" Score="1" Text="@JohnP That's fair. In general I think many users aren't even aware that there are perfectly fine subjective questions." CreationDate="2014-02-05T15:38:37.343" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4772" PostId="2729" Score="0" Text="There are good subjective questions, as there can be good list questions. I agree, many people on SE have not read the good/bad essay." CreationDate="2014-02-05T16:22:56.973" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4774" PostId="2729" Score="1" Text="Give your answer, not the one you think they want. On that note, my answer is always &quot;to get to know my limits and to evolve my understanding of what that question means&quot;. Basically I'm saying that I want to improve myself, but I don't think I quite know what that means, and can only get a clearer picture as I mature in my art." CreationDate="2014-02-06T08:23:44.607" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4775" PostId="2746" Score="0" Text="What are your thoughts on the escape I described?" CreationDate="2014-02-06T12:40:40.090" UserId="500" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4776" PostId="2746" Score="0" Text="That's a good escape, but sometimes it just won't work cause the guy has a mega death grip or just good. The more options you have the better, there is never one answer." CreationDate="2014-02-06T12:42:08.493" UserId="1475" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4777" PostId="2746" Score="1" Text="@BadaBoom I agree with Funky. The leg drag you describe is fine but nothing works all the time and the spider guard is an effective weapon." CreationDate="2014-02-06T12:45:46.217" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4778" PostId="2749" Score="1" Text="Hey.  Welcome to Martial Arts Stack.  We don't really do discussions, at least not in the Q&amp;A format.  You'll need to be able to select a definitive answer from the ones we provide, and that's hard to do when you're asking for opinions.  Please edit your post so that there can be a single, best answer chosen." CreationDate="2014-02-06T19:11:08.457" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4779" PostId="2736" Score="1" Text="+1 Agreed, the choke has to be done correctly or it is ineffective. A person is not immune to a choke if its a bad technique and not really a choke. If its properly done choke AND they don't choke, then yeah they are immune but even then I would argue it has to do with some unique physical circumstance and not so much immunity per se. If a choke is a done right, the person will choke. At least anecdotal evidence has so far supported it." CreationDate="2014-02-06T19:29:41.673" UserId="1439" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4780" PostId="2731" Score="2" Text="While I don't believe nigel meant to suggest it the way it came across, I would agree with John that the suggestion in general would be a very bad idea and can lead to unforeseen and foreseen tragic ends." CreationDate="2014-02-06T19:32:11.200" UserId="1439" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4782" PostId="2750" Score="1" Text="I think your answer is spot on..... I think &quot;less than optimal&quot; is probably a good way of saying it." CreationDate="2014-02-06T23:08:19.987" UserId="1681" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4784" PostId="2731" Score="0" Text="Oh my, I do hope people take this in with a pinch of salt and not literally. I do apologise @JohnP if it seemed abit extreme. What I posted was just an answer to the poster's question on being immunned to chokeholds.&#xA;&#xA;As for your point on knife attacks, we don't intentionally stab or cut ourselves but we do train with real sharp edged object like blades. We do get cut wounds but that with close supervision and full concentration, we minimize it. in the end it help with removing the fear of sharp object. Of course we start of with rubber knifes, then blunt steel knifes and then sharpened knives" CreationDate="2014-02-07T02:44:46.910" UserId="1650" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4786" PostId="2757" Score="0" Text="I have no arm therefore I am immune to having it broken... &lt;/pedantic&gt; ^_~" CreationDate="2014-02-07T14:04:52.120" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4787" PostId="2757" Score="0" Text="You missed your opening tag, this would fail." CreationDate="2014-02-07T14:25:33.617" UserId="1475" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4788" PostId="2731" Score="1" Text="The people in the video are kids. How can they have &quot;decades&quot; of training?" CreationDate="2014-02-07T14:54:49.430" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4789" PostId="2228" Score="0" Text="If the wielder is stupid enough to swing it like a baseball bat (with both arms from the height of his shoulder), you might be able to get close enough in that moment to use the momentum and weight of the chainsaw for a hip throw or similar...though, running is most likely a very good idea in that situation." CreationDate="2014-02-08T15:35:58.647" UserId="22" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4790" PostId="2761" Score="5" Text="Are you *interested* in competing? Is someone *asking* you to compete? Have you been advised to *wait*? How do you *feel* and *think* about competing? Without knowing the motivation behind the question it's difficult to provide meaningful, individualized advice." CreationDate="2014-02-09T14:36:42.280" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4791" PostId="2204" Score="0" Text="This seems to me to be a variant of the &quot;My silver coated shotgun pellets will defeat your Chuck Norris BJJ flying chicken style&quot;.  The kind of questions we've wisely avoided in the past." CreationDate="2014-02-09T20:26:36.357" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4792" PostId="2738" Score="0" Text="Well, thanks a lot. So Chang Quan is for all northern wushu, and Nan Quan for Southern?" CreationDate="2014-02-09T23:59:55.577" UserId="1674" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4793" PostId="2761" Score="2" Text="Yeah, I agree with Dave Newton. Competition can be a lot of fun and very useful. But some kids (and adults) don't like to compete, for a bunch of reasons. You really just have to know what you yourself want from your BJJ training, and stick to that. You don't need to compete (unless you're told you have to by your instructor)." CreationDate="2014-02-10T05:36:46.657" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4794" PostId="2738" Score="1" Text="Bei Chuan (also spelled Pei Quan) is northern shaolin. Nan Chuan is southern shaolin. Chang Chuan is &quot;long fist&quot;, and there are many styles that are considered chang chuan. Also keep in mind that many southern styles also contain long-fist, yet they don't belong under the Chang Chuan umbrella. For example, Choy Lay Fut. So the phrase &quot;Chang Chuan&quot; can refer to either the martial art system or to a quality of techniques within the martial art." CreationDate="2014-02-10T05:54:40.083" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4795" PostId="2761" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand Your comment would make a fine answer." CreationDate="2014-02-10T11:57:21.520" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4796" PostId="2707" Score="0" Text="Why is TKD no the best way to learn weapons? And what is it about Escrima that makes it better?" CreationDate="2014-02-10T12:04:36.627" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4797" PostId="172" Score="2" Text="I think you need to mention 'fight in an MMA bout (After sufficient training)' to engage in and experience  an adrenaline dump in the safest simulation of a fight situation. Great post!" CreationDate="2014-02-10T20:15:24.860" UserId="1207" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4799" PostId="1345" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Why is that?" CreationDate="2014-02-11T00:04:30.357" UserId="1695" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4802" PostId="2761" Score="0" Text="I've been to 4 to watch  and I would like to do a comp  but Im just really nevearos about it" CreationDate="2014-02-11T06:40:42.487" UserId="1688" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4803" PostId="1345" Score="2" Text="@AlexQueue The short answer: it abandons dominant position. Long answer: If I'm on top of mount I can strike, move us both where I want, attack with chokes, get up and leave, or pin their arms reliably. If I go for the armbar, I'm laying on my back vulnerable to 3rd party attacks and I can't easily stand up. If the armbar fails, it's even worse: I'm on bottom, my opponent can strike and move us both around, and both of us have a legitimate chance of pinning the other's arms. I **love** that armbar, it's one of my best moves, but it's a terrible choice for military applications." CreationDate="2014-02-11T08:50:56.933" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4804" PostId="2770" Score="1" Text="-1.  If you either escalate or strike pre-emptively, you have become the aggressor and will no longer be covered by self defence. This means you might be arrested and if so, will have to defend yourself at a trial. Unless you are stupid, this will cost you a large amount in lawyer fees with no grantees of escaping jail. If you talk to the Police, your chances of escaping jail will be much reduced. Even if you stay on the right side of self defence, a punch can kill. Finally, individual are **not** bound by the same laws as countries so any comparison between the two is ludicrous." CreationDate="2014-02-11T10:44:32.410" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4805" PostId="2770" Score="0" Text="+1.  We do raise to the level of our training.  If becoming a street thug is your goal, then by all means learn to street fight. If your goal is to survive combat, then by all means learn how combat works." CreationDate="2014-02-11T10:47:17.270" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4807" PostId="2770" Score="0" Text="I've had success both in competition AND in teaching self-defense. You don't have to sacrifice one for the other. Martial arts is about learning to fight first and foremost. On the mat or in the ring, there are certain rules we obey. In a real fight, there are none. Your opponent may be carrying a knife or a gun. Taking him out as quick as possible is your best option. Start nothing, finish everything." CreationDate="2014-02-11T11:28:43.597" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4808" PostId="2770" Score="0" Text="**I am not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV**: Check with either your lawyer(s) or your friendly LEO before stating that &quot;taking him out&quot; is a legal thing to do. Everywhere I looked into it, it was *not legal*. 'nuff said." CreationDate="2014-02-11T11:53:51.697" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4809" PostId="2770" Score="0" Text="-1.  Sorry, your update forced this.  Your anecdotal evidence is utterly irrelevant, worthless, and at best observation biased.  Not because of what you say (although I believe your understanding of LEO procedure and the law to be naive) but because anecdotal evidence is not evidence. The sad thing is that there is a good answer in there..." CreationDate="2014-02-11T12:04:32.383" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4810" PostId="2770" Score="0" Text="Where do you live, by the way?" CreationDate="2014-02-11T12:07:17.993" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4811" PostId="2770" Score="0" Text="I live in Europe but I am familiar with the USA as well.  Truth be told, your answer makes more sense if you look at unstable countries." CreationDate="2014-02-11T12:14:56.427" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4812" PostId="287" Score="0" Text="Is just me or is it sad that this question has almost 10,000 views and just 10 upvotes?  That's a 0.1% ratio!" CreationDate="2014-02-11T16:31:58.837" UserId="1699" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4813" PostId="2707" Score="0" Text="The movements in TKD are similar to the movements in escrima. There is a lot of similar positioning. That's what my grandmaster who teaches both said when I used to take TKD. I never took escrima but he was like considered one of the top martial arts teachers in the country. Escrima apparently is so similar in movement that doing one will help the other to a reasonable extent, more than you'd expect from two very different martial arts in that way." CreationDate="2014-02-11T17:47:07.837" UserId="1667" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4814" PostId="2707" Score="0" Text="If you add this comment to your answer, your answer will be much better. Just click on 'edit' below your answer text." CreationDate="2014-02-11T20:57:09.427" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4818" PostId="2739" Score="0" Text="A good answer. A great answer would have included links so I could learn more." CreationDate="2014-02-12T12:27:48.817" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4819" PostId="2773" Score="0" Text="n=1, I've been in primarily TKD since 1988ish with no knee issues (Including several years of cross country running through college). I have, however, ruptured an Achilles." CreationDate="2014-02-12T14:30:32.947" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4820" PostId="2773" Score="0" Text="I certainly don't think it's true that absolutely everyone will experience knee injury in TKD.  If I did, it would be stupid for me to do it.  It does seem more prevalent in TKD than other arts I've done.  For instance, I never experienced knee pain until I started TKD.  This is anecdotal evidence, and is only meant to be taken as such." CreationDate="2014-02-12T16:08:50.560" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4821" PostId="2779" Score="3" Text="Agree with all, but really want to emphasize #4.  Also, check into the pricing carefully.  Some places (many which would fall into &quot;McDojo&quot; but not necessarily all) will wind up far more expensive than they sound at first when you need to buy equipment, &quot;promotion testing&quot;, seminars, etc." CreationDate="2014-02-13T16:47:21.167" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4822" PostId="2781" Score="1" Text="I respectfully disagree with your thoughts on &quot;guilt factor&quot;, though I do prefer the term accountability.  I'm much more reliable about getting to the track or gym when I have a workout partner that is expecting me to be there." CreationDate="2014-02-13T16:50:34.333" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4823" PostId="2781" Score="2" Text="Everyone is more accountable with a partner. But I have seen it time and time again in students and workout partners, unless you truly have an internal desire, external motivators eventually fail." CreationDate="2014-02-13T16:58:01.763" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4824" PostId="2781" Score="0" Text="In general: excellent point. Specifically for me: I wouldn't be considering something like this if it wasn't intended to be a long-term investment of my time and energy. Part of why I haven't joined a sports team of some kind is because of my previously stated lack of competitive interest; the focus on individual/personal achievement in martial arts is a huge draw for me." CreationDate="2014-02-13T17:21:57.453" UserId="1705" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4825" PostId="2769" Score="0" Text="Thank you so much for that in depth explanation!  In Pyang Ahn Dan my instructor explained the rising block as being a hammer fist to the side of the opponent's head.  Your explanation is quite interesting, I can't wait to play with it. It definitely makes more sense." CreationDate="2014-02-13T17:23:08.320" UserId="1681" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4826" PostId="2781" Score="1" Text="@JonnyP - Excellent information. I would encourage you then to find a more traditional based school then. For example, many TKD schools (Such as WTF and ATA) are very heavy into the competition aspects and do not do as much internal emphasis (YMMV, every school is different)." CreationDate="2014-02-13T19:01:16.347" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4827" PostId="2779" Score="2" Text="#4 is wrong I think, or at least its soft advice, and not necessarily true.  I know this because I actually did this, I did an art because I liked the instructor, and he was great, but it wasn't really the martial art I wanted to do." CreationDate="2014-02-13T20:56:40.523" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4828" PostId="2783" Score="0" Text="I find that the physical exercise derived from grappling cannot be matched. I do not know a single sport more exhausting than 5 minutes of wrestling" CreationDate="2014-02-14T01:20:42.603" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4829" PostId="2777" Score="2" Text="+1, but want to mention that &quot;kung fu&quot; is a generic term used by westerners to describe many Chinese martial arts, and there's a huge variety of such styles - some definitely fall into the &quot;kicky punchy ones&quot; category.  &quot;Wu shu&quot; might fall more cleanly in &quot;artistic&quot; - it tends to be quite acrobatic." CreationDate="2014-02-14T04:22:29.433" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4830" PostId="2783" Score="0" Text="Let me see if I understood you correctly - striking arts that don't strike to the face are cheating themselves, but with a grappling art where you will &quot;not get the brain damage&quot; *because you're not striking to the face either* isn't cheating yourself...? ;-." CreationDate="2014-02-14T04:28:05.430" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4831" PostId="2780" Score="2" Text="Sorry to trouble you Govind, but perhaps you could provide the exact youtube link and the time into the video worth watching?  The &quot;TV9 - Heegy Unte Part 1&quot; and 2 videos aren't short and I didn't notice anything related to martial arts, but didnt watch every second.  There are lots of similar youtube matches so I'm not sure if that's the right one to watch anyway." CreationDate="2014-02-14T05:26:58.910" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4832" PostId="2769" Score="0" Text="Glad you liked it! Yes, the hammer fist to the face I've heard many times before. It's one step up from the &quot;blocking a punch&quot; explanation. Also, I've heard fore-arm shove to the underside of the jaw or neck. It seems semi-plausible that you could do either of those things. But you have to look at how it's being set up in the form (the moves right before and after it). And you have to ask how this makes sense within a self-defense scenario. If you're just seeing that move alone without any context, then you're missing out on higher levels of understanding." CreationDate="2014-02-14T06:32:19.687" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4833" PostId="2773" Score="0" Text="I've only ever damaged a knee during a dance class." CreationDate="2014-02-14T08:18:28.177" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4834" PostId="2783" Score="0" Text="@TonyD I don't know what Thomas intended, but for me it's that I *know* whether what I'm training works in grappling because I can apply it 100% even in friendly training. That's not possible with striking; you need to compete for that perspective. One could argue that 100% application in striking training is possible if you just don't punch the face/head...but then you're cheating yourself of real confidence and skills. I've found that to be true and I think that's what Thomas meant." CreationDate="2014-02-14T12:12:20.803" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4836" PostId="2783" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann - that's half a story at best, as knowing your offensive technique works is different from knowing someone can't punch you in the head while you're trying to apply it.  Again, in as much as not having contact to the head is unrealistic, it applies as much to one art as another.  If Thomas believes his grappling defense neutralises punches reliably, he wouldn't care whether he trained in a system that allowed that attack." CreationDate="2014-02-14T14:43:29.507" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4837" PostId="2783" Score="0" Text="@TonyD That's only true if training for self-defense. If the goal is training for the fun of training, then grappling without head punching but 100% application of grappling moves is perfectly valid." CreationDate="2014-02-14T15:39:16.143" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4838" PostId="2779" Score="0" Text="@Keith Nicholas - Thank you for adding this comment. I was quite surprised when so many of the answers here focused so heavily on teacher and school over style, though I do appreciate the point of all of the advice I've received so far. Perhaps it's my own ignorance but I assumed that finding an art which follows a philosophy that I find attractive was where I should start my search, which was my original point when asking for help here. At least now I'll be sure to consider both aspects." CreationDate="2014-02-14T15:59:32.367" UserId="1705" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4839" PostId="2779" Score="0" Text="Mark C. Wallace's [answer](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/2787/82) does a good job of describing why a teacher is more important than a style." CreationDate="2014-02-14T17:04:11.537" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4840" PostId="2783" Score="1" Text="DaveLiepmann was correct with his first post about my intentions. This guy was training to get in shape and to have fun and be able to stick with the sport. So, self defense is secondary. Besides, any grappling school worth their salt will do some self defense vs strikes; e.g. how to close to the distance safely against a puncher and to bring him(her) to the ground." CreationDate="2014-02-14T21:30:57.827" UserId="1207" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4844" PostId="2780" Score="0" Text="I have appended your other answer to this one. Multiple answers are fine provided they each stand on their own. Otherwise you can simply edit your answer to include more detail when you want to." CreationDate="2014-02-15T12:37:57.780" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4846" PostId="2776" Score="0" Text="Are you willing to relocate so you can join a dojo which has the right teacher teaching the right martial art?" CreationDate="2014-02-17T08:44:35.163" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4847" PostId="2769" Score="1" Text="How do you know your interpretation is the right interpretation of the rising block as oposed to his master/any other TKD master that has ever shown it?&#xA;&#xA;Then first you describe basically a duck under from wrestling (slapping the arms up and going to the body).&#xA;&#xA;And then you describe a magical bone break. Unless you keep the shoulder in position it's very unlikely that it will break the arm. Maybe extend it a bit, but not really hyperextend. HAve you ever broken someone's arm this way?" CreationDate="2014-02-17T09:00:49.213" UserId="1207" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4848" PostId="2769" Score="0" Text="(I don't disagree that it's not really a block, because yeah, that straight up never works. But hey, it's TKD/TSD so, yeah not expecting much reality there in the first place)" CreationDate="2014-02-17T09:04:33.170" UserId="1207" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4849" PostId="2746" Score="1" Text="The leg drag works better vs de la riva than vs spiderguard; in spiderguard your opponent can easily switch to either side; in de la riva he's set himself up for a specific angle that you have to counter and exploit. The leg drag you described is amazing for passing de la riva though. It's just very hard to get in spider guard from my experience." CreationDate="2014-02-17T09:12:57.963" UserId="1207" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4850" PostId="2769" Score="0" Text="The reason you know your interpretation is at least practical is that you study the form and find a reason for why the form has that particular sequence of movements that it does. This is a very deep topic, and it's called &quot;kata bunkai&quot;. You'll need to research that and understand it before being able to support any hypothesis about what a technique in a form is doing. And the bottom line is that if someone comes up with a better explanation, you use that one instead. I offered one possible explanation. It may not be &quot;the correct one&quot;. But I believe my method of figuring this out is good." CreationDate="2014-02-17T20:13:41.730" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4851" PostId="2769" Score="0" Text="One other thing. The rising block as an elbow break... No, elbows actually don't &quot;break&quot;. But you can really hurt someone this way by hyperextending the elbow. Look at how the rising block is done. The right rising block first crosses under and to the outside of the leading left hand. Then it rises in front of the left hand and comes upwards diagonally to the right. Why? If it is a strike to the jaw or the neck, why waste time crossing it with the left hand? Answer is that it does not make sense for that strike to make that cross. And since your left hand is typically open in the form..." CreationDate="2014-02-17T20:17:41.430" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4852" PostId="2769" Score="0" Text="(continued) ... it's an indication that the left hand is grabbing at something and pulling it to chamber at the left hip. Otherwise, why chamber? What's going on there? You also should look at the next movements in the form. There's a throw there, by the way (the 270 degree turn and down block). That throw uses the position you got yourself into from the rising block application previous to that. It's not just a throw, it's a leg sweep at the same time. Think Tai-Otoshi Nage from Judo." CreationDate="2014-02-17T20:29:03.883" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4853" PostId="2776" Score="0" Text="I'm not, but there are dozens of schools within a half hour drive from both my home and work." CreationDate="2014-02-18T00:01:27.193" UserId="1705" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4854" PostId="2795" Score="3" Text="Hi Byron, welcome. Can you take some time to format your answer? At the moment it is a wall of text, try and break it up a bit. Just use the `edit` link at the bottom of your answer. Thanks." CreationDate="2014-02-18T00:22:30.320" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4855" PostId="2799" Score="4" Text="Endorphins. Not sure what the question actually *is*, though, since &quot;normal&quot; is more or less meaningless when talking about things like this." CreationDate="2014-02-18T10:37:44.017" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4858" PostId="2780" Score="0" Text="I hate to offer incremental criticism, but in addition to the link, it is *very* helpful if you can summarize the critical points of the link.  That way if the link vanishes, the Q&amp;A still has value." CreationDate="2014-02-18T12:41:37.903" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4859" PostId="2805" Score="0" Text="That's a good strategy most of the time, but could you explain a bit more? I wasn't the one giving the downvote, mind you." CreationDate="2014-02-19T09:34:32.833" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4860" PostId="2757" Score="0" Text="Loading up on neck and shoulder muscle mass is a good start." CreationDate="2014-02-19T09:35:48.277" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4861" PostId="2757" Score="0" Text="No it's not, you clearly have never trained BJJ at all." CreationDate="2014-02-19T10:42:05.463" UserId="1475" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4864" PostId="2805" Score="1" Text="@Funky If Wing Chun was so useless in a real fight, why did Bruce Lee choose to use it as a base for JKD? While I agree with your comments about police forces using Judo techniques etc to counter real-life encounters, I still do not believe that Wing Chun is as useless as you say. I once worked with someone who had been training for around 30 years and he was an unbelievable fighter." CreationDate="2014-02-19T12:07:30.893" UserId="1734" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4868" PostId="2805" Score="2" Text="@RichM Because Bruce Lee *knew* Wing Chun? It's not like he had some sort of magical martial arts evaluation mechanism." CreationDate="2014-02-19T13:09:27.010" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4869" PostId="2806" Score="2" Text="You spar with no rules! How often? What kind of throws and groundwork do you do? What is your insurance like, considering you spar full contact with biting and hairpulling and eye gouging allowed?" CreationDate="2014-02-19T13:10:47.203" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4870" PostId="2805" Score="1" Text="Correct, he knew wing chun. He also pointed out that martial arts had too much emphasis on forms as opposed to live training in Karate, Kung Fu, etc which is why JKD includes elements of boxing, thai boxing and grappling. A quick description on Bruce Lee and JKD: &quot;He often compared doing forms without an opponent, to attempting to learn to swim on dry land. Lee believed that real combat was alive and dynamic.&quot;" CreationDate="2014-02-19T14:13:33.107" UserId="1475" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4871" PostId="2805" Score="0" Text="But that's my point; there must have been useful, applicable elements of Wing Chun which is why he used it. So if this is the case, is cannot be completely useless." CreationDate="2014-02-19T14:26:14.950" UserId="1734" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4872" PostId="2806" Score="1" Text="I would imagine that a sparring session would be stopped before someone got castrated. I learned a tiny bit of Wing Chun through a guy who was very into full contact fighting and MMA. He allowed things to get rough and he was very liberal with the rules, but always knew when to stop." CreationDate="2014-02-19T14:31:49.650" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4873" PostId="2806" Score="1" Text="We respect our partner and will not inflict permanent damage... But throwing is normal and wearing a cup reduces tge risk of castration ;) The session stops when one gives up or is incapable of fighting any more (like solar plexus hits). We fight with sport shoes on laminated ground, to get a feeling of being on the street." CreationDate="2014-02-19T15:04:20.697" UserId="633" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4876" PostId="109" Score="0" Text="Technically, what you described above is not the classical definition of &quot;internal&quot; vs. &quot;external&quot;. It's the modern definition of &quot;internal&quot; vs. &quot;external&quot;." CreationDate="2014-02-19T17:41:31.270" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4877" PostId="408" Score="0" Text="@user201 is right, but maybe start with a smaller one. The main emphasis is on holding something heavy and rough while keeping the palm open as much as possible. I started with huge coke bottles filled with sand then finally ended up with big rough bricks." CreationDate="2014-02-20T10:27:45.203" UserId="1650" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4878" PostId="2482" Score="0" Text="Btw, your WRIST should do the &quot;throwing off balance&quot; in 95% of your throw ..." CreationDate="2014-02-24T12:55:31.290" UserId="1526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4879" PostId="2820" Score="1" Text="The only way to improve your fitness and conditioning is to continually push the boundaries - which is what you are doing. Have you improved since you started?" CreationDate="2014-02-25T05:40:42.703" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4880" PostId="2820" Score="0" Text="I have improved to some extent. Warm-ups are less tiring and generally, the training isn't as exhausting overall but I feel as if I'm worried that my body will wear out if I push my boundaries or as if it's counter-intuitive to do so as it's draining my body. Honestly, the Muay Thai kicks are the most troubling." CreationDate="2014-02-25T05:46:09.150" UserId="1751" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4881" PostId="2820" Score="2" Text="Don't worry too much. Your body is just getting used to the idea of doing these strange new exercises." CreationDate="2014-02-25T09:40:22.077" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4882" PostId="2821" Score="0" Text="+1 Concise response. My main problem is that I study and work full-time so it makes it difficult to maintain a consistent schedule (i.e. &quot;4 or more specifically Muay Thai workouts&quot;). Due to this, is it feasible to do Muay Thai workouts without the aid of a coach at home?" CreationDate="2014-02-25T10:17:27.567" UserId="1751" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4883" PostId="2822" Score="0" Text="+1 I appreciate the comment about &quot;fast-twitch muscle fiber&quot;. I do really need to work on strength and conditioning." CreationDate="2014-02-25T10:18:38.793" UserId="1751" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4884" PostId="2821" Score="3" Text="@coeus 4+ isn't necessary, it's just the point at which you see rapid progress. The point is to maximize your in-class muay thai workouts. Can you do something at home? Yes, but I'd focus on a progressive strength and mobility program first, and only then supplement with a MT home-drilling workout." CreationDate="2014-02-25T11:45:34.247" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4885" PostId="2822" Score="1" Text="-1 I'd advise against cycling, since as a repetitive partial-range-of-motion exercise it tends to decrease flexibility, particularly in the hamstrings, which is a bad idea for MT. It's also quite strange to say that running only works the shins and calves. But neither running nor bicycling is a proper strength or conditioning exercise for MT. Neither is sport-specific, nor are they effective for general S&amp;C. What's called for is either sport-specific conditioning or a general strength training program." CreationDate="2014-02-25T11:52:21.040" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4886" PostId="2822" Score="0" Text="You are certainly welcome to dismiss my advice and I believe that your methods are quite good too but I should point out that I have trained a world champion as well as a number of national champions. All my strength and conditioning advice is backed up by solid research. You will also note that a general strength training program will include endurance training, which brings us right back to cycling (or running, if that's your cup of tea). Also note that I am referring to incline training, not interval training or LSD." CreationDate="2014-02-25T12:55:45.197" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4887" PostId="2822" Score="1" Text="@JuannStrauss World champion in muay Thai? I'd be interested to see any of the research." CreationDate="2014-02-25T13:29:09.203" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4888" PostId="2821" Score="0" Text="Thanks Dave for the insights. Another question since you mentioned flexibility training (I'm aware that I'm trailing off a bit as my original question was about endurance). Would you suggest Yoga as a means for improving mobility and flexibility in the context of supporting my overall endurance level for Muay Thai? Or would this be counterproductive for meeting the demands for Muay Thai?" CreationDate="2014-02-25T22:14:19.273" UserId="1751" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4889" PostId="2821" Score="1" Text="@coeus I've found yoga quite helpful for judo and kickboxing. Longer yoga classes, particularly when you're new to the practice, can take a toll on your recovery demands (which would otherwise be devoted to MT), but if you're inflexible then you need to do something. One option is to develop a short daily morning yoga practice, since flexibility responds best to frequency." CreationDate="2014-02-25T22:29:46.457" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4890" PostId="2822" Score="0" Text="I'm also a cyclist and would endorse it as an excellent low impact way of building aerobic capacity (doing sprints and incline work). Also agree on the ab work - in fact they are so important you can't emphasize that enough. @DaveLiepmann is also right with the limited range of movement comment - for me it really affected the flexibility of my hamstrings, so stretching is very important if cycling is going to be used." CreationDate="2014-02-25T23:49:15.620" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4891" PostId="2822" Score="0" Text="I am by far no expert on physical fitness but I would have to agree with the advice on ab work in the context of executing Muay Thai kicks. Logically, the pivots required from the kicks would naturally lead me to assume that the hips and thus, the abdominal muscles play a large factor in rotating the body necessary for a good roundhouse kick. That's according to my obviously limited experience with Muay Thai at the moment." CreationDate="2014-02-25T23:54:24.820" UserId="1751" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4892" PostId="2822" Score="1" Text="World champion in Taekwondo. I personally only got so far as British Open champion in 1996 and 5th place at the 1998 World championships. For research findings you can look up Dr. Joe De Beer. His work on rehabilitation (and by extension strengthening) is amazing and I have firsthand experience of the results he achieves. I was going to suggest livestrong.com, but it's obviously a bit biased and specialized. And nowhere did I suggest NOT doing flexibility exercises." CreationDate="2014-02-26T07:43:43.793" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4893" PostId="243" Score="0" Text="I was just going to say : get punched more, but yours is a very eloquent answer!" CreationDate="2014-02-26T08:41:54.197" UserId="1207" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4894" PostId="2825" Score="0" Text="+1 You definitely have a way of explaining things. I'll give you that. While it's relatively straightforward, it's not that easy for me. There's heaps of negative self-talk when I'm fatigued, e.g. &quot;Oh I'm tired. I can't do this!&quot; etc. Furthermore, I ruminate about whether this fatigue is overexerting my body. That said, I'm aware that this is completely a mental consideration rather than an issue about martial arts form and technique. Thanks again." CreationDate="2014-02-26T09:00:41.507" UserId="1751" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4896" PostId="2660" Score="0" Text="+1 I agree with slugster's comments, but there is a lot of other good stuff in this post, besides &quot;debunking&quot; bunkai.  Although I do think there are hidden meanings within kata, we do sometimes see things that aren't there." CreationDate="2014-02-27T12:43:10.003" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4899" PostId="2829" Score="0" Text="I've also read _Stretching Scientifically_. I too recommend it. I grew up learning Taekwondo, and that was where I became very flexible in my leg span. I know that I can get my stretch back fairly quickly if I'm out of training for years. The same is not true for people who are not naturally flexible. For them, small gains over time. And stick with exercises that don't injure you. Read up. And do what Dave says: you need a stretching program. All else fails, see a sports doctor or physical therapist to figure out what's going on biomechanically. Your teacher isn't trained in that stuff." CreationDate="2014-03-02T03:03:22.960" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4900" PostId="2829" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand Your comment would make an upvote-worthy answer." CreationDate="2014-03-02T09:01:52.680" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4904" PostId="2828" Score="0" Text="Pilates. Pilates instructors are usually clued-up on physiotherapy, so you can ask them about the pain in your hip joints. Aside from that, I have seen amazing improvements in the flexibility of students who follow a pilates regimen. What's more, pilates is yoga plus actual science backing it up." CreationDate="2014-03-03T08:45:42.710" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4905" PostId="2831" Score="1" Text="Hi Nick and welcome to the site.  I have edited your question slightly to make it a little more focused. Let me know if I have dramatically changed your meaning." CreationDate="2014-03-03T11:15:35.673" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4906" PostId="2833" Score="0" Text="I am 34 and not very flexible at all. I'm also unsure whether I would enjoy being kicked in the head" CreationDate="2014-03-03T13:38:49.160" UserId="1764" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4907" PostId="2833" Score="0" Text="The trick is to kick the other guy in the head first ;)" CreationDate="2014-03-03T13:59:02.143" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4908" PostId="2833" Score="0" Text=":) What about Wing Chun?" CreationDate="2014-03-03T14:06:20.103" UserId="1764" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4909" PostId="2833" Score="0" Text="Wouldn't recommend it as it puts a LOT of strain on your elbows. You'll be doing lots of backfists and short, snapping punches. Basically any type of small, repetitive, movement is bad news for problem joints. As seen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zLH3c37QBA" CreationDate="2014-03-03T14:10:15.323" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4910" PostId="2833" Score="0" Text="Is there anything else other than Taekwondo?" CreationDate="2014-03-03T14:13:54.387" UserId="1764" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4911" PostId="2833" Score="0" Text="Most of the flavours of Karate are good. Seeing as you're a novice, &quot;karate&quot; means anything where you have to wear a white gi and a coloured belt (except judo). My personal favourite is Kyukushin because its techniques are applicable in the real world and the founder, Masutatsu Oyama, was a real-life bad-ass. As Sardathrion said, let your instructor know from the start that you have a problem with your elbow." CreationDate="2014-03-03T14:23:35.103" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4912" PostId="2833" Score="0" Text="Thanks. I was hoping for one which is not heavily based on strikes and uses body positions and other people's weight." CreationDate="2014-03-03T14:39:43.443" UserId="1764" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4913" PostId="2833" Score="0" Text="Go on youtube and have a look at a couple of judo and jiu-jitsu fights and draw your own conclusions. I'm not the final authority on any topic. I know a lot, but I also know that there's even more that I don't know." CreationDate="2014-03-03T14:46:07.867" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4914" PostId="1841" Score="1" Text="I agree with this post 100%. Some instructors do not realize the difference between a warmup and a conditioning. But students are guilty too, thinking themselves too good for the warmup, which I do think is critical to have." CreationDate="2014-03-03T16:18:52.067" UserId="1207" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4915" PostId="2835" Score="1" Text="Thank you for the response. I should really point out what does aggrevate my elbow which might help others to recommend something." CreationDate="2014-03-03T16:22:45.397" UserId="1764" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4916" PostId="2835" Score="0" Text="Gripping is fine, getting it banged or falling on it is fine. It is essentially the same type of movement as pushing yourself up from a push up which is not ok, or a backhand movement in tennis. Also I cannot have 100% full extension and I could not do a fast punch with that arm, I could only use it to grip or block. I'm not sure if I could withstand twisting and turning because I don't really do that sort of thing day to day" CreationDate="2014-03-03T16:25:03.857" UserId="1764" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4917" PostId="2835" Score="0" Text="Good armbars are on the elbow, and work on extending it, so that might be a problem if you get caught in them. A good school would have proper partners for you however. I guess I don't know enough about (your) arthritis to give further advice. I don't think the snappy punches from traditional TKD or Karate are very good for the elbow either, since they lock out your arm, unlike a boxing or thai boxing punch." CreationDate="2014-03-03T18:35:06.280" UserId="1207" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4919" PostId="2830" Score="1" Text="Really? Bushin Ryu has been around for a lot longer than Street Fighter.. There are several manifestations of the art around the world - all originating  in Malaysia.In Canada it is Okinawan Karate/Jujitsu combined , as it is in the USA..In NZ , Australia and the UK it is Okinawan karate-jutsu/aikijutsu combined.No energy balls and lots of real life impact." CreationDate="2014-03-04T19:27:47.727" UserId="1761" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4920" PostId="2646" Score="0" Text="Grow it longer and use it as a distraction, like Guida and Bendo." CreationDate="2014-03-04T20:10:31.820" UserId="1076" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4921" PostId="2839" Score="1" Text="-1 Doesn't address all the questions that I raised." CreationDate="2014-03-04T21:02:42.030" UserId="1751" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4922" PostId="2840" Score="0" Text="+1, clearly better phrased than my attempt at saying the same thing." CreationDate="2014-03-05T08:07:28.923" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4923" PostId="2840" Score="0" Text="As a side note, Tomiki really hated the fact that some people called his style by his name.  He named the style *shodokan*." CreationDate="2014-03-05T08:08:18.080" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4927" PostId="2840" Score="0" Text="Yes, and it bugs me a little bit to ignore Tomiki's preference, but language is what it is, not what we want it to be. &quot;Shodokan aikido&quot; is a rare term in the USA." CreationDate="2014-03-05T15:29:48.530" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4928" PostId="2840" Score="0" Text="Wish I could upvote again for the quote &quot;If the teacher you're working with won't adapt the technique to your limitations, leave.&quot;  The only thing I would add to this is you have to find out what is actually a physical limitation and what is only a mental limitation." CreationDate="2014-03-05T17:11:05.110" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4929" PostId="1457" Score="2" Text="It's been two years.  How is the notation system coming?  I want to know more about it." CreationDate="2014-03-05T17:37:25.237" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4931" PostId="2851" Score="0" Text="Eyeh. I kind of agree with you that &quot;crab walk&quot; is usually the wrong word, as the general execution of it involves the hands being fairly close to the feet so that you can readily arise and/or transition to other positions, but I saw the &quot;crab walk&quot; description elsewhere and it seemed a good enough explanation, particularly with how capoeira moves aren't horribly standardized in regards to names." CreationDate="2014-03-06T13:30:36.550" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4932" PostId="2626" Score="0" Text="Back when I read the Bruce Tegner books as a kid, they recommended about a third of your capacity as the &quot;little bit&quot; to hold onto. Seems a decent starting point to me." CreationDate="2014-03-06T13:33:18.603" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4945" PostId="2856" Score="1" Text="The Philly shell is a real thing, and I'm sure that different lineages have different practices, and I love this question, but I don't know anything about the different boxing &quot;styles&quot;. I think that because boxing doesn't name or conceptualize their subvariations the same way that (for instance) karate does, it's less of a recognized thing." CreationDate="2014-03-07T21:28:51.280" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4946" PostId="2856" Score="0" Text="I think so too.  As mentioned, I think a lot of people think of their &quot;style&quot; as &quot;plain ol' vanilla boxing&quot; and don't think to categorize it as a certain style.  There's also a lot less &quot;my teacher is so and so&quot; in boxing.  Only when something is radically different, like Mayweather's Philly Shell (thanks for pointing me to that BTW), do people take notice of a different boxing style." CreationDate="2014-03-07T21:51:44.047" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4947" PostId="2847" Score="2" Text="-1 This oversimplified &quot;science&quot; is really unhelpful. What damage is a push going to do? Why not improve on the `mass` part of the momentum equation? How harmful do you imagine moving towards a push is going to be--wouldn't that just mean taking a firm stance and taking the collision? Isn't that [kind of common](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWXufM4CkdU) in martial art?" CreationDate="2014-03-09T11:58:11.333" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4948" PostId="2858" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the answer but...I'm in Romania and here are not many Wing Chun or Kung Fu schools,or here are no such schools at all,just a few schools of box and karate...Anyway,I'll search a little more,maybe I will find one." CreationDate="2014-03-09T19:26:52.893" UserId="1788" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4949" PostId="2858" Score="6" Text="You can't study an art if there's no school nearby. For your situation I would recommend boxing.  Boxing is good stuff." CreationDate="2014-03-09T19:31:57.733" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4950" PostId="2856" Score="0" Text="Same here RE: Philly Shell. I've been teaching that with a modified ITF TKD-optimised foot placement as the default fighting stance for facing opponents of similar stature for literally decades and I never thought that it might actually have a name." CreationDate="2014-03-10T09:49:09.257" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4951" PostId="2204" Score="0" Text="Is this a joke?" CreationDate="2014-03-10T14:57:22.943" UserId="1475" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4955" PostId="2861" Score="0" Text="The [Journal of trauma](http://journals.lww.com/jtrauma/Pages/default.aspx) might be a place to look at..." CreationDate="2014-03-11T07:30:46.953" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4956" PostId="2847" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann: Edited my answer to respond to your comment." CreationDate="2014-03-11T10:11:00.410" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4957" PostId="2862" Score="0" Text="Re: #1 - those aren't static grabs. Those are dynamic grabs; those are the core of our training curriculum." CreationDate="2014-03-11T11:43:34.123" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4958" PostId="2865" Score="2" Text="I agree with the idea that one should be generalized in their self-defense training, so that they can be able to handle a broad range of attacks. But I think it is also important to recognize that some attacks are much more common, and to make absolutely sure you're able to handle those kinds of attacks. I don't think anyone suggests only training to handle the top 3 or 4 fight modalities." CreationDate="2014-03-11T16:53:15.720" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4959" PostId="2089" Score="1" Text="@Vass Basically, when someone shoots in for a double or single, you throw an uppercut and then the hook you follow with is kind of like a push, helping you turn the angle." CreationDate="2014-03-12T06:15:02.553" UserId="1207" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4960" PostId="2865" Score="0" Text="Agreed. I'd just say rely on personal experience, yours or your trainees, instead of statistics. That's all ..." CreationDate="2014-03-12T06:27:43.633" UserDisplayName="user1778" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4964" PostId="2865" Score="1" Text="Except that most people don't have a vast amount of experience with actual self-defense situations to be able to even know what is common and what is not. Police officers hear many first hand accounts of how people were attacked when they're taking down witness statements. That's why law enforcement personnel generally are much more reliable than your average Joe. And that's where most of these statistics come from. Aside from that security camera videos are making their way to the web, and you can peruse some of the fights they show on youtube." CreationDate="2014-03-13T04:14:27.720" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4965" PostId="2865" Score="0" Text="Agreed again. I just don't think that's the point. Maybe your trainee or a friend of her has experienced somebody trying to keep her down by grappling. Would it matter to her if you can reference the statistic xy, which states good old fashioned beating ups make 99% of all attacks? Really try to get that situation from her point of view. And even if the statistic says something like this, is it valid? The number of unreported grabs should definitely be lower than unreported Glasgow kisses. If it is not in the scope of your training, don't train it. Don't excuse this decision with statistics" CreationDate="2014-03-13T06:02:54.373" UserDisplayName="user1778" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4967" PostId="2135" Score="0" Text="[This article](http://masadatactical.blogspot.com/2011/06/get-out-of-your-bubble.html) might be of some help." CreationDate="2014-03-17T23:33:57.137" UserId="12" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4970" PostId="2737" Score="0" Text="@JohnP Try using &quot;soft&quot; training techniques in a real life scenario. Many people believing in &quot;soft&quot; training are ignorant and are lying to themselves. I agree with Dave Liepmann." CreationDate="2014-03-19T12:45:30.933" UserId="500" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4971" PostId="1808" Score="0" Text="Overtraining can also cause injuries." CreationDate="2014-03-19T13:03:44.720" UserId="500" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4973" PostId="2879" Score="0" Text="But is watching videos a good way to learn Wing Chun?" CreationDate="2014-03-20T08:12:42.407" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4974" PostId="2879" Score="0" Text="i think so.. because i am learing taichi yang from the same videos since.. 7 month.." CreationDate="2014-03-20T10:01:14.690" UserId="1273" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4976" PostId="2888" Score="0" Text="Thanks a lot, Steve! Can you add the links to these IWUF contents that are on their site? I've looked for these materials there and couldn't find any." CreationDate="2014-03-20T17:59:18.757" UserId="1674" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4977" PostId="2889" Score="1" Text="What exactly would you be using the headlock to do?" CreationDate="2014-03-20T20:45:18.993" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4978" PostId="2889" Score="0" Text="Immobilize a thief? Choke a rapist?" CreationDate="2014-03-20T21:11:29.193" UserId="1811" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4979" PostId="2889" Score="3" Text="Which headlock? Choking or non-choking? There's the side headlock, the front-facing guillotine, the standing rear-naked choke, the Thai clinch, the half-nelson, the full-nelson, the arm triangle, the D'arce choke, the two-handed lapel choke from the front, the neck crank, etc." CreationDate="2014-03-20T23:07:26.877" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4980" PostId="2889" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand: one where the defendant can moves his hands to pull a knife and attack you. I suppose choking variants are more efficient against very aggressive attackers." CreationDate="2014-03-20T23:52:30.623" UserId="1811" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4982" PostId="2888" Score="0" Text="I just added the requested links as an update. See above." CreationDate="2014-03-21T02:40:43.790" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4983" PostId="2891" Score="1" Text="This is a nice summary of how a seemingly substandard technique can make sense in a given position." CreationDate="2014-03-21T12:15:20.377" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4984" PostId="2893" Score="0" Text="*Which* effort? In other words, the throwing mechanics might work better, but the effort involved in maintaining the lowered posture and the *preparation* to throw would likely increase." CreationDate="2014-03-22T19:07:29.087" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4985" PostId="2896" Score="0" Text="I appreciate your answer and will sure check that reference which you have pointed out (y)" CreationDate="2014-03-23T13:02:28.727" UserId="1340" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4989" PostId="2896" Score="5" Text="-1. *&quot;Using his mind he not only healed his hand [...]&quot;* This mystical mumbo-jumbo makes me sad... The rest of the answer might be accurate, I do not know." CreationDate="2014-03-24T08:00:31.943" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4991" PostId="2901" Score="0" Text="As a side note, despite being half my age, they're probably all better than me (certainly some of them are).  A number of them try to help me with my technique (I'm not to good at new physical activities), although we don't speak much of each others' languages." CreationDate="2014-03-24T10:06:59.517" UserId="1819" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4992" PostId="2900" Score="0" Text="In that quote, did Kano refer to judo randori or randori in general? It sounds like he's describing the incorporation of strikes into judo randori. Looking at the date(1926), my mind is blown because that's a major, major change especially since at that point judo had already been around for decades." CreationDate="2014-03-24T10:26:19.770" UserId="1437" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4995" PostId="2900" Score="0" Text="Yep, he was referring to judo. I never thought of judo as traditional but this solidifies how progressive and non-traditional judo is for me." CreationDate="2014-03-24T10:33:17.320" UserId="1437" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4997" PostId="2905" Score="2" Text="Actually, I would figure injury rates to be higher at a local school than competitors at the national level, just vastly more under-reported. You'll get a lot more people with some training and very little control than you would a tournament where all the competitors are national level and have developed control." CreationDate="2014-03-24T20:48:46.897" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4998" PostId="2905" Score="0" Text="Yes, perhaps. But I based my opinion on intensity. National level competition would mean higher intensity, faster speed, more force, and stronger competitive drive. All of those combine to increase risk greatly. In my Judo school, like I said, you had to repeat your newly learned throws for at least a thousand times before being allowed to do it in randori. And randori wasn't even allowed until about 6th kyu (orange/green belt) anyway. It gives people the control they need to be able to do it safely. It seemed to work well for our school anyway." CreationDate="2014-03-24T21:07:18.720" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="4999" PostId="2905" Score="0" Text="Oh, I agree, but how many times did you or someone in your school have an injury or mishap that may have interrupted training for a few days that was never reported? Even controlled, in class sparring has its risks, and even more severe injuries in a school setting are never really reported anywhere. I don't think it's a huge difference, probably in the order of 3-4 more per 1000, so 10-12ish per 1000 for in school incidents." CreationDate="2014-03-24T21:35:46.787" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5000" PostId="2904" Score="0" Text="I do not claim to be an expert, but I believe most BJJ schools do not teach striking (or segregate it into a separate MMA class)." CreationDate="2014-03-24T22:10:51.733" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5001" PostId="2905" Score="0" Text="Yeah, that sounds reasonable. I recall seeing some statistics once regarding this. It was an attempt to quantify injury rates at martial arts schools based on self-reporting during a poll. I totally forget where that went to. But I also got the impression that it wasn't very scientific or reliable. They also concluded striking-based arts were much worse for injuries. I definitely remember that." CreationDate="2014-03-24T22:12:18.720" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5002" PostId="2904" Score="1" Text="Sorta. Gracie JJ first teaches _defense_ against strikes by using grappling as part of its official curriculum. Later on, Gracie JJ students learn &quot;self defense&quot; techniques, which includes training in punching, kicking, and other things you won't see in sport-based BJJ. It's not done in a separate &quot;MMA&quot; class, either. It's part of the regular program." CreationDate="2014-03-24T22:35:35.610" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5003" PostId="2905" Score="0" Text="Yeah, I can believe that. Can't tell you how many times I've been kicked in the back or more sensitive areas when working with/teaching new or out of control sparrers." CreationDate="2014-03-24T22:36:55.810" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5004" PostId="2888" Score="0" Text="Thank you, Steve! I just couldn't find the links, guess I was looking for it in the wrong place LOL :D" CreationDate="2014-03-24T22:58:44.033" UserId="1674" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5005" PostId="2903" Score="3" Text="After a year of judo, the thought of breaking my nose hasn't crossed my mind at all. I'd be more worried about fingers, toes, knees, and shoulders." CreationDate="2014-03-25T02:23:37.620" UserId="1437" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5006" PostId="2905" Score="2" Text="There's not to add much to this answer. Most injuries result from falling wrong, as likely as walking on slippery ground. On the other hand I often felt less hard rolling off when I felt from a horse or bicycle. Not unlikely judo saved me from being a basket case ..." CreationDate="2014-03-25T07:07:43.820" UserDisplayName="user1778" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5016" PostId="2909" Score="0" Text="I also remember hearing that a Ninja can enter a room and identify the 10 most effective objects to kill a person, I don't know if that helps, but there tends to be weapons all around us at any given moment and it just takes a bit of imagination." CreationDate="2014-03-28T23:00:41.797" UserId="1827" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5017" PostId="2216" Score="1" Text="So much awesomeness! you just made my day! And it's a proper answer too!" CreationDate="2014-03-29T08:10:24.617" UserId="1828" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5018" PostId="2901" Score="0" Text="Seio nage, they don't have to bend the knees to lift you ;-)" CreationDate="2014-03-31T05:37:10.020" UserDisplayName="user1778" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5019" PostId="888" Score="1" Text="I had to a few years back when I snapped a chest muscle grappling.  So I trained one-handed for a couple of months to let the muscle re-knit." CreationDate="2014-03-31T12:57:25.083" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5020" PostId="2910" Score="1" Text="Also note the date." CreationDate="2014-04-01T14:02:08.123" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5021" PostId="2911" Score="1" Text="Also note the date." CreationDate="2014-04-01T14:42:02.847" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5022" PostId="2910" Score="2" Text="You need to meditate in a zero G environment until your power level is at least over 9000" CreationDate="2014-04-01T16:03:45.007" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5023" PostId="2913" Score="3" Text="This question appears to be off-topic because it shows no basic research of the topic: for example a [Google search](https://search.disconnect.me/searchTerms/serp?search=233a3d7a-029f-422c-80bf-a4c5ac1318dd) would have answered this question." CreationDate="2014-04-02T14:23:29.453" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5024" PostId="2913" Score="2" Text="In addition, [this answer](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/2905/82) contains a link to a paper about [competition injuries in young judo athletes](http://judoinfo.com/research11.htm)." CreationDate="2014-04-02T15:22:53.977" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5025" PostId="2914" Score="2" Text="Morote-gari was *not* banned because of how it lands people. Other throws have been banned because of injury potential (e.g. kani basami, poor variations of uchimata) but morote-gari is not one of them, as it was banned as part of a blanket ban on leg grabs." CreationDate="2014-04-02T22:30:00.343" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5026" PostId="2914" Score="0" Text="Oh, that's a good correction, Dave. I had been misinformed about morote-gari. Kani Basami was definitely banned for being unsafe. But not morote-gari. It seems there is a lot of discussion about why morote-gari was banned, and I don't think it's entirely clear to everyone why. That might be why I had heard it was banned for landing people on the neck/head. That's at least plausible. The truth is apparently that Judo wants to remain &quot;pure&quot; to its art by disallowing grabs below the belt, or something like that. Weird to me, but I guess it makes sense to judo high dans." CreationDate="2014-04-02T23:43:56.720" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5027" PostId="2801" Score="0" Text="The cloth would probably be shreded in a second. However, this may cause the mechanism to grind. Maybe throwing some sand or mud into it would cause the chainsaw to malfunction." CreationDate="2014-04-04T18:25:36.743" UserId="1838" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5029" PostId="2919" Score="0" Text="Great bit of info regarding putting your core into the blocks &amp; punches.&#xA;I used to train three times a week but now I only get an hour before spin class at the gym, so other than slow Heian/Pinan katas to warm up there is no stretching. I'll give that a try, thanks." CreationDate="2014-04-06T13:56:50.977" UserId="1413" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5030" PostId="2919" Score="2" Text="Starting with slow katas and gradually increasing speed is a good way to get into a rythm before training, but it doesn't stretch your muscles enough for the more demanding stuff. Keep up the good work, and be sure to check with your sensei and/or a doctor if the pain persists despite proper stretches!" CreationDate="2014-04-06T16:01:45.633" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5031" PostId="2918" Score="0" Text="I heard that in Goju-ryu, a style of karate that emphasizes dynamic tension, many of the art's masters have died earlier than those in other styles which do not practice dynamic tension. This is just a rumor in so far as I can't substantiate it with hard evidence. I wish I had the data or the time to investigate it. It would make for a great paper." CreationDate="2014-04-07T02:22:27.160" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5032" PostId="2920" Score="0" Text="something vaguely similar to [this](http://www.heavenlyswords.com/product.php?productid=20727) image?" CreationDate="2014-04-08T12:45:58.997" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5033" PostId="2920" Score="0" Text="@MarkC.Wallace Kind of, but more rings obviously, and the rings stood out from the wood by maybe 1/4-1/2&quot;." CreationDate="2014-04-08T13:13:19.560" UserId="1845" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5034" PostId="2923" Score="0" Text="I saw that too, but it seems like the banding mentioned is more like tetsubo or kanaibo where the strips are parallel to the length of the bo." CreationDate="2014-04-08T13:14:39.863" UserId="1845" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5035" PostId="2923" Score="0" Text="I think they meant that the bands were around the circumference of the staff, not parallel with the length of the staff. Bands do that. They wrap around the circumference, not the length. Where they talked about the length of the bo, they meant that the bands were repeated down the length of the staff. Not that each &quot;band&quot; was actually a stripe that went all the way down one length and back up the other side. That wouldn't hold the staff very well, and it would be a lot heavier than banding. But who's to say without a picture?" CreationDate="2014-04-08T19:53:03.397" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5036" PostId="2914" Score="2" Text="I disagree that chokes could have a long term impact on your health. it not like you're receiving 10 or 15 well applied chokes in 1 training. It's like saying arm lock can have injury impact when you practice them. in practice,  you stop as soon as you have the choke &quot;in position&quot; ; you dont apply any pressure on it. As for competition, in 15 years i've never been choked, and I've done two myself. It's nothing close to a situation that can lead to &quot;long-term damage&quot;" CreationDate="2014-04-10T12:39:35.410" UserId="1526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5037" PostId="2906" Score="1" Text="The good news is, some of them are trying to help me with my technique, so I doubt they're overly afraid of me..." CreationDate="2014-04-10T13:41:04.370" UserId="1819" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5040" PostId="2913" Score="2" Text="An easily searched answer doesn't make a question off-topic, and this particular issue actually isn't so easy to answer it seems." CreationDate="2014-04-10T16:53:59.260" UserId="373" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5041" PostId="2914" Score="0" Text="Yes, choking is &quot;probably&quot; okay for most people and won't significantly damage the brain. It usually works by lowering blood pressure and causing the guy to pass out. But two problems arise from this. The first is that the decreased blood pressure may last a long time without intervention, so you need to work quickly to bring the guy back to consciousness. And secondly, you can dislodge arterial plaque which travels to the brain to cause a stroke. There are some martial arts which forbid practicing chokes on people over the age of 30 or 40 due to the increased risk of stroke." CreationDate="2014-04-10T17:55:57.023" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5047" PostId="1418" Score="0" Text="Shouldn't this be a community-wiki question? It is basically a list question." CreationDate="2014-04-11T08:04:47.170" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5048" PostId="2932" Score="1" Text="-1 for anecdotally evidence as it is utterly irrelevant, +1 for going beyond it, and finally another +1 for sensible advice. ^_~" CreationDate="2014-04-11T08:17:13.530" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5049" PostId="2928" Score="0" Text="Was the master Jackie Chan?" CreationDate="2014-04-11T09:58:42.063" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5051" PostId="2186" Score="0" Text="On a side note, you can also get up into the handstand by going to all fours and then &quot;walking&quot; your feet up the wall. It's easier for some people, you get a bit of a workout as your weight shifts, and it produces less percussive force against the wall (especially important if you're doing this up against dry-wall or plaster)." CreationDate="2014-04-11T19:52:20.283" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5052" PostId="405" Score="1" Text="I hope your sifu doesn't call it a dojo, since that's the Japanese word. In China it's called kwoon." CreationDate="2014-04-14T15:57:48.370" UserId="478" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5053" PostId="2402" Score="1" Text="While I feel like it makes the kick *less* effective for sparring, I've also seen references to a sharp blow increasing the chance of a blood clot in the femoral artery, which can cause long-term damage to an opponent up to and including loss of limb and increased stroke risk." CreationDate="2014-04-14T17:26:11.313" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5055" PostId="2937" Score="0" Text="Agreed, Sean. That's exactly why it happened. I know a lot of Taekwondo schools that only teach for sport competition. Half of those places don't even teach forms any more. There's a big difference when you look at Taekwondo students who come from more traditional schools that don't train for sport competition as their primary goal. I trained at a traditional ITF school. We wouldn't even let the point count in sparring if it meant being off-balance and falling. It would be judged as an &quot;unclean technique&quot; and ignored." CreationDate="2014-04-15T17:56:00.623" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5057" PostId="1718" Score="0" Text="I know, I know. I talked about high kicks because I had an argument only for that." CreationDate="2014-04-15T20:37:24.987" UserId="902" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5058" PostId="1718" Score="0" Text="for low kicks and kicks in general I think it's because it causes a moving that gets you uselessly in the atemi range if you don't score on it and hurt the uke enough to pu him down. You can see that in Combat Sports like kick boxing, most of counter-attacks happen after a bad/missed kick, and aikido is very good at counter-attacks. Kicking a real experimented aikidoka is risking the health of your leg." CreationDate="2014-04-15T20:45:24.583" UserId="902" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5060" PostId="2939" Score="0" Text="The spinning part is really hard for me as I don't have any background in dancing. There is always the fear of falling or tripping over. Can't get past that stage." CreationDate="2014-04-16T06:15:45.227" UserId="1268" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5061" PostId="2937" Score="0" Text="Hopping and jumping is easy for me because these are direct motions. Spinning is difficult. I can't really spin well. Can you elaborate on that part please? Thanks." CreationDate="2014-04-16T06:18:07.013" UserId="1268" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5062" PostId="2939" Score="0" Text="Which is why I said to begin with &quot;spotting&quot;, i.e. turning the head first and fixing your eyes on the target from start to finish. Go ask a pretty girl who dances to teach you. It's a great ice breaker too ;)" CreationDate="2014-04-16T07:25:24.437" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5067" PostId="2937" Score="0" Text="In order to spin, try breaking the movement down into parts. First, get into a left leg forward back stance. Next, shift all of your weight forward, right above the ball of your left foot. Raise up slightly on the ball of your left foot (lift up your left heel off the ground about a centimeter). Next, turn your head clockwise. Right after you start to turn your head, begin to turn your shoulders clockwise. Right after you start to turn your shoulders, turn your waist clockwise. So head first, then shoulders, then waist. (continued...)" CreationDate="2014-04-16T22:39:42.073" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5068" PostId="2937" Score="0" Text="As you are turning your head, shoulders, and waist, you will pivot on the ball of your left foot while picking up your right foot off the ground. When your head turns all the way around, you will stop your turning your head so that you can focus right on the target. That's why you turn your head first, so that you can quickly refocus on the target. This must be fast so that you don't temporarily turn your back on your opponent and blind yourself to whatever he is doing... Now, your left foot will pivot only 180 degrees. You will drop the heel of your left foot down when it is (continued...)" CreationDate="2014-04-16T22:44:24.823" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5069" PostId="2937" Score="0" Text="... facing your opponent. At this point, you lift your right leg up and kick out with a side kick. This is actually a reverse side kick you just did. The toes of your left foot point behind you (away from your opponent). For the hook kick, instead of putting any power into the side kick, you just place it out there, and then you do the hook at the end. After the kick is done, you pivot once again on the ball of the left foot (picking the heel up again), and bring the right leg back to its original position in the left leg forward back stance. The key to the hook kick is being (continued...)" CreationDate="2014-04-16T22:47:41.830" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5070" PostId="2937" Score="0" Text="... able to do a reverse side kick. Also, the spinning motion can be practiced without doing any kick. Just spin in place. You should not travel while you're spinning. You'll do a left leg forward back stance, and you spin around. Start with your head, then move your arms, the arms will bring the shoulders with them, and then the waist follows that. Turn to focus on the target as fast as you can! That is key. If you let your head move slowly and move it at the same time (rather than before) the rest of your body, you will get dizzy. Keep your body upright. Don't lean over. Practice!" CreationDate="2014-04-16T22:50:57.157" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5071" PostId="2478" Score="1" Text="Ice skating's another activity where women are jumping and spinning very ably." CreationDate="2014-04-17T00:48:30.843" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5072" PostId="2947" Score="2" Text="This is a very broad and general question that will produce endless varieties of answers. Is there something specific that you are looking for? Have you researched anything yourself?" CreationDate="2014-04-17T02:07:14.660" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5073" PostId="2952" Score="1" Text="+1 Some martial arts teach techniques that only help if you are in a fight. Knowing how to fall and roll safely can help you when you play other sports, or just walking down the street. Everybody falls sooner or later; people trained in breakfalls can often avoid serious injury." CreationDate="2014-04-18T18:30:01.187" UserId="698" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5074" PostId="2953" Score="0" Text="Can you narrow down the scope of what information you are looking for? As it is, your question is very broad. Have you done any research of your own so far?" CreationDate="2014-04-19T02:30:54.407" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5076" PostId="2519" Score="1" Text="+1 for &quot;you don't have to use speed where no speed is required.&quot;" CreationDate="2014-04-19T15:03:06.583" UserId="1333" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5077" PostId="469" Score="1" Text="+1 for &quot;Style is second...&quot;; and frankly, that's being nice to &quot;Style&quot;. When you start seeing Martial Arts through the paradigm of formlessness, ...it's a true beauty." CreationDate="2014-04-19T15:04:41.923" UserId="1333" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5078" PostId="2957" Score="6" Text="As has been noted in references to other martial arts, there are only so many combatively feasible motions a human body can make.  Therefore, similarities among different combative systems from different cultures.  That said, I find the historical authenticity of so-called Native American martial arts to be questionable.  Anything re-packaged to sound more exotic sells better than plain old knife fighting." CreationDate="2014-04-21T14:58:04.390" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5080" PostId="2960" Score="2" Text="Just to nitpick your health habits point: I never had any stretching issues resulting from drinking beer. And the 2L of water per day is a relatively arbitrary figure that has been widely promoted but is not based on good solid science (it's also promoted as &quot;8 glasses a day&quot;) - it varies a lot per person." CreationDate="2014-04-22T13:24:20.470" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5081" PostId="2875" Score="0" Text="Is this an answer to: How should someone physically prepare for a bjj competition ?" CreationDate="2014-04-23T09:35:00.260" UserId="500" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5082" PostId="2963" Score="0" Text="I am somewhat sceptical of your coach's claim and would like to know if they have a reference beyond personal experience... Still, good question!" CreationDate="2014-04-23T12:02:48.173" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5083" PostId="2963" Score="1" Text="I was told the same thing by my athletics coach years ago. Running long distances or doing lots of repetitions during weight-lifting (without emphasis on speed) improves your endurance but also has a negative impact on your maximum speed/explosiveness. It's ok to do this in an off-match period, but training in a match-period should focus on speed and technique. I have to admit I've never investigated if there is any scientific evidence for it." CreationDate="2014-04-23T14:20:04.897" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5084" PostId="2963" Score="1" Text="I think that if all you do is steady effort, that might be detrimental, if for no other reason than that you're training your body to maintain steady speed in a situation where there's not a lot of reaction going on. That said, if you also do more explosive drills such as breaking into a sprint from a stopped position repeatedly, or training to react to attacks, I don't see why the endurance training would hurt." CreationDate="2014-04-23T18:01:11.860" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5085" PostId="2963" Score="1" Text="This question might get better responses on fitness.stackexchange.com" CreationDate="2014-04-23T18:32:07.510" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5086" PostId="2963" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion Most people who run long distances have a harder time maintaining muscle mass and explosiveness. This is fairly well-understood exercise science." CreationDate="2014-04-23T18:45:48.243" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5087" PostId="2966" Score="1" Text="The answers to this question may be of use to you: http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/2935/how-does-one-train-for-a-spinning-reverse-kick" CreationDate="2014-04-23T20:50:25.183" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5088" PostId="2966" Score="1" Text="Also, it will be helpful to know what you think you're doing wrong.  What have your instructors said?  Surely, they've told you more than &quot;you're doing it wrong&quot;." CreationDate="2014-04-23T20:51:56.610" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5089" PostId="2966" Score="0" Text="Ok, thanks, I will read the post. That is part of the problem, my instructor is Korean and speaks English badly. All he has managed to communicate is that my balance and alignment are bad and that I need to exert more force. He has not really explained how to do this. I am looking for a basic idea of the proper form and tips on learning it properly. :)" CreationDate="2014-04-23T20:59:03.790" UserId="1887" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5091" PostId="2966" Score="0" Text="Actually, I'm not sure. What is the green-yellow belt in your system? How long have you been taking TKD?" CreationDate="2014-04-23T21:14:29.393" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5092" PostId="2966" Score="0" Text="I've been taking TKD for about seven months as the PE class for my school. This link shows a picture of the belts we use. http://www.hadritkd.co.uk/Photos/About%20Taekwondo/WTFbeltcolors_edited-2.jpg" CreationDate="2014-04-24T00:51:21.063" UserId="1887" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5093" PostId="2966" Score="1" Text="Well then, 7 months is a little too soon to expect any student to be able to do spinning and jump spinning kicks with any degree of competence. Those are advanced skills. You should worry more about basic kicks which don't do spinning or jumping. Get those right first. It typically takes 1.5 to 2 years of training three days a week to get at least &quot;okay&quot; at spinning kicks. That's a lot of hard work left to do. Don't feel too bad about your lack of skill right now, in other words. It will come. It's not expected that you be able to do this stuff well right now." CreationDate="2014-04-24T01:56:52.600" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5094" PostId="2966" Score="1" Text="Also, as you saw in that other question that Wudang Kid linked to, the number one thing to do in the spinning / reverse kicks is to look first. Turn your head around fast and then focus on the target. If you don't do that, you will be off balance. Remain upright. Rotate on the ball of the foot. Point your ground foot's heel at your opponent (toes point away) when you do your kick. Read the comments of that link. I described it all there." CreationDate="2014-04-24T02:00:20.120" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5096" PostId="2967" Score="0" Text="-1 Gassing in a tournament is far from an indication of a heart problem. (If it happened in class then that would be more a possibility.) I disagree with your conditioning advice, and your advice about overtraining is taken from strength training and misapplied to BJJ." CreationDate="2014-04-24T07:45:19.810" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5097" PostId="2963" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann: Fair enough. Any references you could point me to?" CreationDate="2014-04-24T08:15:17.333" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5098" PostId="2968" Score="2" Text="Welcome to the site!  Nice question indeed. I suppose that chocking someone is not something a referee is going to stand for if they see it. Is that right?" CreationDate="2014-04-24T08:20:43.743" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5099" PostId="2963" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion [This article](http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2014/04/22/why-you-should-not-be-running/) is a bit jargony for my taste but it makes the case. Rippetoe &amp; Kilgore's Practical Programming is an easy but rather thorough book on the subject. A more thorough book, closer to the physiology but still focused on sport, is Kurz' Science of Sports Training. But generally most strength programs that address conditioning will mention the fact that the body's recovery resources are limited and that strength and power are best trained in the absence of abundant long slow distance running." CreationDate="2014-04-24T08:38:55.357" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5100" PostId="2969" Score="0" Text="Why do you prefer that weight class?" CreationDate="2014-04-24T08:39:39.163" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5102" PostId="2969" Score="0" Text="I was competing in -70 before, and I dropped off weight but never changed the weight class." CreationDate="2014-04-24T09:46:27.430" UserId="500" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5103" PostId="2969" Score="0" Text="So...have you competed in -64? What was the problem with it?" CreationDate="2014-04-24T10:25:40.673" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5104" PostId="2969" Score="0" Text="No kardeş, I only competed in -70 and never competed in -64. I'm used to -70 that's why I don't want to compete in -64." CreationDate="2014-04-24T10:38:49.523" UserId="500" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5105" PostId="2968" Score="1" Text="Ya, if they see it they will stop the game and kick out the choker. The issue is that they can't physically intervene, so if a player really wants to choke someone there's not much the refs can do" CreationDate="2014-04-24T16:18:01.400" UserId="1880" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5106" PostId="855" Score="1" Text="I like this answer, except for &quot;Weak people have no business training martial arts&quot;. I was extremely weak when I started BJJ, I started lifting because of that. The lifting definitely helps, but I wouldn't be lifting if I wasn't doing BJJ. Perhaps the much weaker statement of &quot;You need to become reasonably strong before you actively start sparring against fully resisting opponents.&quot; is more appropriate." CreationDate="2014-04-24T17:59:48.620" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5107" PostId="2963" Score="1" Text="Here is a perspective on running for BJJ:  http://www.grapplearts.com/Blog/2012/04/cardio-for-the-martial-arts/" CreationDate="2014-04-24T22:14:01.520" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5108" PostId="855" Score="0" Text="@TimothyAWiseman The situation you describe is indeed a difficult gray area." CreationDate="2014-04-25T05:43:00.513" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5109" PostId="2963" Score="0" Text="Great article @TimothyAWiseman." CreationDate="2014-04-25T09:57:07.117" UserId="500" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5110" PostId="2967" Score="0" Text="Right Dave, but we don't know anything about this person. While it was described as &quot;during a competition&quot;, we don't know how this person trains normally in class. While we can imagine that all BJJ schools train hard, that may not be so. This person may also be a 2-4 month white belt in, for example, a BJJ school that doesn't allow free sparring in class. We have no idea. My advice is not an indictment of BJJ, but cautionary. And honestly, you're dead wrong for being against a doctor looking into this." CreationDate="2014-04-25T17:07:56.663" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5111" PostId="2967" Score="0" Text="Fast power lifts are actually done during competition. So train using free weights ahead of time. If you've ever done this in training, you'll notice that your heart rate goes through the roof. Putting a high load on your body and then having to repeat it a good number of reps will increase your cardiovascular endurance. So will sprints and other high intensity exercises. But the caution is to make sure you don't have a heart condition ahead of time. Many athletes don't know they do, and they just collapse and die doing their chosen sport (basketball, running, whatever)." CreationDate="2014-04-25T17:15:08.740" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5112" PostId="2967" Score="0" Text="Yes, my advice for preventing over training comes from weightlifting. My reasoning is that weightlifting is all about destroying muscles and rebuilding them (with rest). Training in BJJ uses muscles also, aerobically and anaerobically. Recovery for aerobic training is usually a 48 hour ordeal, with 24 hours being minimal, and something only top athletes are able to do. Recovery for anaerobic training is much larger, which is why I say take one week out of 4 for low intensity exercise / rest. Recovery should be at the top of any athlete's priorities." CreationDate="2014-04-25T17:20:43.857" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5113" PostId="2966" Score="1" Text="Also, pay attention to what your hands/arms are doing. The more you let them get away/flap in the breeze, the more you disperse your center of gravity and axis of rotation. Both of which will end up throwing your spins off." CreationDate="2014-04-25T22:25:38.713" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5114" PostId="2976" Score="4" Text="+1 for mention of the pinch of triceps skin - make sure you pinch only a small amount of skin because it is actually more painful than doing a large amount. This is also a great self defence move for women - easy to apply and gives you that small amount of time you need to get out of a hold. Done properly it also leaves a massive bruise so you can tell who you had to pinch :)" CreationDate="2014-04-27T00:01:18.837" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5115" PostId="2973" Score="4" Text="When training this hard recovery is every bit as important as training." CreationDate="2014-04-27T00:02:40.280" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5117" PostId="2978" Score="3" Text="Hi and welcome to the site. Questions like &quot;Which should I choose...?&quot; are not particularly good as it solicits answers that are primarily opinion based. And it's also good to avoid very broad questions like &quot;What are the differences between art A and art B?&quot;." CreationDate="2014-04-28T22:31:09.400" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5118" PostId="2978" Score="5" Text="Having said that, why don't you try both at the same time (train each one once or twice a week) and then make a decision once you've got a bit of experience in each? Neither are similar to Kali, although Krav Maga may teach you some weapon skills." CreationDate="2014-04-28T22:33:02.883" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5119" PostId="2978" Score="1" Text="@slugster: Your second comment would make a fine answer." CreationDate="2014-04-29T07:51:34.117" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5120" PostId="2331" Score="0" Text="John P, I was not, as you say, being snide and condescending to Matt Chan. I had in fact addressed the question of advantage and disadvantage of one punch over the other. I stated that either type of punch can be advantageous in any given situation, as long as you can execute it efficiently. You absolutely right John P, my sensei ALL taught me to ACT not RE-ACT! Sometimes a mind can become clogged with seemingly important trivia and one needs be step back and return to the void, so as to avoid penny anti name calling and cat a walling PEACE - Mad Merlin." CreationDate="2014-04-29T10:00:11.997" UserId="1431" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5121" PostId="2978" Score="0" Text="@slugster thanks for the note on the question :)&#xA;&#xA;for your second comment, It is a matter of money, I can only afford one of them." CreationDate="2014-04-29T21:47:10.877" UserId="1892" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5122" PostId="1614" Score="0" Text="@Dave: I agree with SAJ14SAJ, since he specifically speaks about high kicks. I only have one example to back this up, which is a fight that I once saw across the street: One guy was trying kicks the other one's head. The other one could easily evade this an land several punches. Fight was over after 10 seconds... I believe that high kicks are ineffective, for two reasons: 1) They have a negative impact on your balance, and 2) The foot has to travel a rather long distance from the floor to the target, which gives the opponent time to adjust." CreationDate="2014-04-30T07:59:14.507" UserId="1903" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5123" PostId="2978" Score="1" Text="@ProWi, most martial arts schools will offer at least one class free of charge.  Take both of them.  Also take some classes in other martial arts in your area that you haven't considered.  If a martial arts school will not give you a trial class, walk out and don't look back." CreationDate="2014-04-30T11:34:31.383" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5126" PostId="2467" Score="0" Text="How do they counter your harai goshi? and is it that both left and right harai-goshi get's countered?" CreationDate="2014-05-01T08:31:43.650" UserId="212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5127" PostId="2983" Score="0" Text="Could you provide some references for your claims?" CreationDate="2014-05-01T10:52:26.747" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5128" PostId="2983" Score="1" Text="I was not aware that MMA kicks weren't designed to [break ribs](http://www.mmamania.com/2012/7/22/3176188/pic-urijah-faber-broken-rib-from-renan-barao-fight-at-ufc-149)! Nor that grappling moves in MMA weren't designed to [break bones](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXIzQ8TZVUI) and [rip soft tissue](http://img.mixedmartialarts.com/method=get&amp;s=rousimar-palhares.gif)!" CreationDate="2014-05-01T11:41:09.573" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5130" PostId="2976" Score="1" Text="I agree, my sister had her lifeguard license, and they teach you how to escape hold and grab by panicking &quot;victims&quot;. I think you could try this way." CreationDate="2014-05-01T19:31:00.297" UserId="1526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5133" PostId="2956" Score="1" Text="Please go and talk with a medical doctor and take any advice your read on the Internet with a large stack of salt." CreationDate="2014-05-03T11:41:57.897" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5134" PostId="2989" Score="1" Text="I think they had more experience. *Anything* can be a &quot;way of life&quot;. Any art, or endeavor, that requires full integration of mind and body can have the same effects." CreationDate="2014-05-04T12:36:17.173" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5136" PostId="2989" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion Edit made to the question" CreationDate="2014-05-07T06:44:42.340" UserId="1641" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5138" PostId="2994" Score="0" Text="The question was heavily edited so you might want to check that your answer still fits." CreationDate="2014-05-07T09:37:22.197" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5139" PostId="2995" Score="0" Text="The question was heavily edited so you might want to check that your answer still fits." CreationDate="2014-05-07T09:38:47.277" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5143" PostId="2995" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand Could you, kind sir, reframe your comment into an answer. The community may find it useful." CreationDate="2014-05-08T02:07:37.940" UserId="1641" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5144" PostId="2995" Score="0" Text="Alright, BlackFlame3. I just converted my comments into an answer." CreationDate="2014-05-08T03:36:38.773" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5145" PostId="2989" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion In many attempts to answer the question and looking at other karateka's perspectives, I have observed that the answer is very deep seated and personal and thus has no concrete answer. It even requires a lot of research to generalize. I will remove this question if it doesn't really add quality in terms of StackExchange style of questions and answers." CreationDate="2014-05-08T05:20:49.303" UserId="1641" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5146" PostId="2998" Score="0" Text="not sure if the strikes would work well, mostly strikes work when you get body weight through them, punches and kicks would reduce to muscles generated force, which would hurt, sure, but not sure if would be too damaging.  Rolling out of joint locks could be tricky, rolling requires pushing off something.  I think spinning is going to be key in zero gravity, if you use someone to spin you one way, they spin the other way and if you hold a joint, then there's not a lot they can do to stop you or them spinning and their joint will take the force." CreationDate="2014-05-08T10:41:25.150" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5147" PostId="2998" Score="2" Text="Straight punches to the chin may still be effective." CreationDate="2014-05-08T11:32:27.283" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5148" PostId="2996" Score="3" Text="You might try this question on one of the science stacks.  They will probably have a much better grasp of zero G physics." CreationDate="2014-05-08T12:04:17.930" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5149" PostId="2997" Score="0" Text="+1 this is probably the best explanation of &quot;karate is life&quot;.  I'm glad you pointed out that doing karate alone won't give you a mystical shortcut to solve all your problems." CreationDate="2014-05-08T13:10:48.443" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5150" PostId="2998" Score="0" Text="Something that we use a lot in water polo is striking from a Muay Thai clinch, holding the neck and throwing knees or body shots. Water is pretty similar to zero gravity, so I assume that this technique would still work." CreationDate="2014-05-08T18:33:15.723" UserId="1880" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5151" PostId="2996" Score="0" Text="@TheWudangKid but a much worse grasp of fighting techniques." CreationDate="2014-05-08T21:46:06.610" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5153" PostId="2996" Score="2" Text="This question appears to be off-topic because it is about a hypothetical situation. To quote a text from the [help center](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help/dont-ask) *avoid asking subjective questions where …&quot;you are asking an open-ended, hypothetical question: “What if ______ happened?”*" CreationDate="2014-05-09T08:41:40.383" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5154" PostId="2996" Score="0" Text="@THelper: While I see where you are coming from, there are a lot of questions so far that fit into this pattern that can be answered via [good/bad subjective](http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/09/good-subjective-bad-subjective/). While I suspect that no one here has been using martial arts in space (*if I am wrong, please answer this question!!!*), I think it is an interesting Gedankenexperiment that can be answered." CreationDate="2014-05-09T09:35:25.157" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5155" PostId="2996" Score="2" Text="@Sardathrion I agree it is an interesting question, but I feel it is not very suitable for any SE site. How are we going to determine what's the best definitive answer? As you said yourself, there's most likely no one who has any experience with this. All answers are best guesses." CreationDate="2014-05-09T09:41:08.483" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5156" PostId="3002" Score="0" Text="great answer.  This is kind of what I expected.  You mention &quot;this is a reoccuring theme&quot;.  Can you give me another example of a Westerner thinking he has &quot;re-invented&quot; an Asian martial art?  I'd like to do further research along those lines. Thanks." CreationDate="2014-05-09T11:50:31.933" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5157" PostId="3002" Score="0" Text="I prefer older sources, from around the time when westerners were first becoming acquainted with Asian cultures." CreationDate="2014-05-09T12:03:15.333" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5158" PostId="3001" Score="0" Text="If you grab an ear and &quot;wrench around&quot; you are just as likely to move and drift as your opponent unless you are latched on to something else." CreationDate="2014-05-09T14:34:48.597" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5159" PostId="2996" Score="0" Text="Also voted to close. It's basically guesswork." CreationDate="2014-05-09T14:36:03.273" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5160" PostId="3000" Score="0" Text="my coach was hiroshi nakamura, best japanese coach in all canada ... and he always yelled at when I was training : &quot;Use 'Hara' thierry savard! &quot;. &#xA;&#xA;so I'd stick with it myself, since he learned in japan, I guess its refer this way over there too" CreationDate="2014-05-09T15:09:20.360" UserId="1526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5161" PostId="81" Score="0" Text="you dont have to practice strengh when your alone, practice speed, stability and position. using any wall, tree, beams etc as all the answers suggest are great way to do it." CreationDate="2014-05-09T15:19:36.773" UserId="1526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5162" PostId="3002" Score="0" Text="One thing you can do is to look at the history of American martial arts. Like American Kenpo, for example. Ed Parker reinvented everything &quot;because Americans learn differently than the Japanese do.&quot; Same with Stephen Hayes (ninjutsu). It's actually pretty common to see Americans coming up with their own brand of martial art. They have all kinds of ways of seeing things which they say separates their art from traditional Asian ones. In the 80's, this was so common that I could barely kick a rock down the street without it hitting one of these places. Hehe." CreationDate="2014-05-09T18:41:32.293" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5163" PostId="3002" Score="0" Text="Maybe you could post this as a question, by the way." CreationDate="2014-05-09T18:43:18.893" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5164" PostId="2999" Score="0" Text="Momentum is actually really necessary in a zero-gravity situation. However, this momentum has to be generated from your core and impulsive at your extensions." CreationDate="2014-05-09T20:15:36.030" UserId="1333" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5165" PostId="2998" Score="1" Text="I don't know what kind of water polo y'all play, but it's not according to any rules I know. I've played, and while I've been grabbed (And in some pretty rough games) I've never been clinched with body shots." CreationDate="2014-05-09T20:37:44.893" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5166" PostId="3002" Score="0" Text="I think it would make a good question, but I don't know how to phrase it in such a way as to promote answers that I could actually accept.  &quot;Who are some guys who 're-invented' Asian martial arts?&quot;  Every other answer would be Ed Parker or Bruce Lee." CreationDate="2014-05-09T20:50:06.890" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5167" PostId="2996" Score="0" Text="What!? Nooo! Don't close it! This is a proper question to study technique" CreationDate="2014-05-09T21:06:48.417" UserId="1333" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5168" PostId="3002" Score="0" Text="It is an interesting subject, though hard to describe. Yep. One common characteristic I see with a lot of these people is that they often haven't gotten very far into a particular martial art before they decide to break off and start their own. They come up with some unusual idea and think it's &quot;everything&quot;. And they can be highly respected people, also. Like General Choi (founder of Taekwondo). He now emphasizes the &quot;sine wave&quot; rising and falling motion in forms. But the Japanese forms he learned never had that motion. And it's not clear (to me at least) that it's actually beneficial." CreationDate="2014-05-09T21:40:33.770" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5169" PostId="2998" Score="0" Text="Ya, it's definitely foul play, but I've received and thrown a lot of knees and punches from clinches or clinch like positions (grabbing cap strings)" CreationDate="2014-05-10T00:12:02.907" UserId="1880" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5171" PostId="2996" Score="0" Text="@Yasky A better question would then be to explicitly ask about the technique and practical application of it instead of these things happening in a vacuum." CreationDate="2014-05-10T02:29:39.760" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5172" PostId="2996" Score="1" Text="@MattChan the question doesn't mention whether there's a vacuum." CreationDate="2014-05-10T02:44:18.270" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5173" PostId="504" Score="0" Text="This folding is how some sad fakers appear to break/smash targets with this technique - the fingertips are bent downwards and intentionally fold on impact so the second joint down the fingers is actually doing the breaking; such frauds then endanger others who underestimate the difficulty of doing it for real and mangle their fingers.  That's not to say it can't work &quot;for real&quot;, but be careful!" CreationDate="2014-05-10T02:53:50.110" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5174" PostId="3004" Score="0" Text="See [this question about preparing for BJJ](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/2874/how-should-one-physically-prepare-for-bjj), [strength and conditioning for martial arts](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/1756/347), and [weight training in martial arts](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/127/is-weight-training-useful-in-martial-arts/855#855), and [general lifting advice for martial arts](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/117/what-exercises-are-safe-or-not-for-total-beginners/1832#1832)..." CreationDate="2014-05-10T20:08:45.930" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5175" PostId="3004" Score="0" Text="For best responses you should also tell us what you've been doing at the gym: exercises, frequency, weights, PRs, sets, reps... And how often do you train BJJ in a week?" CreationDate="2014-05-10T20:14:52.943" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5177" PostId="693" Score="2" Text="Please take any health advise on the internet with a bucket load of salt.  **Go see a medical professional instead!**" CreationDate="2014-05-12T08:01:55.537" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5178" PostId="3001" Score="0" Text="That's true @JohnP - I was trying to think of a way to control their movement that would minimize their tendency to fight back - sharp pain usually helps with that." CreationDate="2014-05-12T11:41:36.503" UserId="1894" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5179" PostId="2966" Score="0" Text="A lot of these comments could be expanded into answers.  Why doesn't this question have an answer yet?" CreationDate="2014-05-13T14:45:55.950" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5180" PostId="2966" Score="0" Text="I really don't know. There should be an option to choose a comment as the answer." CreationDate="2014-05-13T16:55:55.007" UserId="1887" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5181" PostId="3010" Score="1" Text="Thank you for your reply. Do u not think though that some level of strength would be beneficial? I know not to rely on it but surely it can only help your game?" CreationDate="2014-05-13T21:08:29.120" UserId="1923" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5182" PostId="3005" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the answer, Can you provide any examples of mobility work? I feel that I need to work on my flexibility and mobility." CreationDate="2014-05-13T21:09:37.477" UserId="1923" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5183" PostId="3010" Score="0" Text="It would definitely help. It's been mentioned in other questions as being beneficial too." CreationDate="2014-05-13T23:49:16.753" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5184" PostId="3005" Score="0" Text="@RNI2013 Sure. Yoga is a fine start. I went to several months of classes and did a private lesson, then used that experience to develop a home yoga workout that I do alone. There's also the basic non-yoga stretches: touching toes (with focus on the hamstrings, not the lower back), butterfly, hurdlers, arm and leg swings, 3rd world squats, ankle dorsiflexion, calf stretches... Kelly Starrett's MobilityWOD is a good internet resource." CreationDate="2014-05-14T06:34:08.197" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5185" PostId="3005" Score="0" Text="There are yoga classes at my academy which i will definitely start attending! Thanks for you answers, no doubt youll see me posting other beginner bjj related qs in the future lol!" CreationDate="2014-05-14T08:09:21.687" UserId="1923" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5186" PostId="3014" Score="0" Text="Thanks! I read that butterfly and half guard are very beneficial for people of a stocky build, do you also find this? Im quite new to bjj so closed guard is the only guard ive been working in at the minute" CreationDate="2014-05-14T08:11:12.700" UserId="1923" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5187" PostId="3010" Score="0" Text="Okay. . .I'm just speaking from personal preference/opinion then probably&#xA;@RNI2013 it definitely helps, but one thing I've noticed is once you're stronger than most of the guys you train with you forget, or omit details of techniques and you don't realise that they're working because you're stronger than your opponent and not because your technique/jits is better, I therefore prefer not doing TOO MUCH weight training. . .that's how i'd some up my answer" CreationDate="2014-05-14T09:17:17.810" UserId="1685" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5189" PostId="3010" Score="2" Text="Yeah, so it could be summed up as &quot;get as strong as possible but do not rely on it, rely on technique&quot;?" CreationDate="2014-05-14T09:27:12.933" UserId="1923" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5190" PostId="3010" Score="0" Text="true...........(dots to make the comment go through :D)" CreationDate="2014-05-14T09:33:23.643" UserId="1685" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5191" PostId="127" Score="3" Text="it is, but remember a strong fighter and a strong person is not the same thing, fighters generally do not get down to as lean as bodybuilders would, I think 15-20% body fat is ideal ratio for a fighter" CreationDate="2014-05-14T09:35:35.573" UserId="1685" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5194" PostId="3014" Score="0" Text="yes, if half guard I use lockdown a lot these days.   Butterfly I haven't had a lot of success with.  Though I often try and get my hooks in for sweeps.  I'll tend to transition more into spider guard than butterfly." CreationDate="2014-05-14T11:30:04.413" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5195" PostId="3014" Score="0" Text="Thanks, do you know of any resources i.e. videos/dvds where I can improve on my half guard skills. I have searched youtube but there isnt too many!" CreationDate="2014-05-14T11:31:46.490" UserId="1923" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5196" PostId="3014" Score="0" Text="you can try things like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_3D98PnTWA    though, for me, I mostly have learnt from class." CreationDate="2014-05-14T11:37:30.290" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5197" PostId="3014" Score="0" Text="Thanks looks good for defending! I found this video quite useful for the basics of half guard:" CreationDate="2014-05-14T11:42:30.093" UserId="1923" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5198" PostId="3014" Score="0" Text="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2x1oi2NW5U" CreationDate="2014-05-14T11:42:52.320" UserId="1923" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5199" PostId="3017" Score="3" Text="this question is ambiguous.  Are you asking about targets on a person's body with a punch?  Or are you asking how to make a good punch?  Both are conceivably good questions, but should be asked separately.  Also, each will vary depending on the combart art or sport you're practicing.  Where you can attack on a person's body does not change depending on how many people are attacking you, so that's a false variable.  If you can clarify, we can answer your question better.  Meanwhile, I suggest you look up basic boxing punches on Youtube." CreationDate="2014-05-14T12:00:35.820" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5203" PostId="3017" Score="1" Text="I think he was fairly clear, in my opinion. I just answered the question. It seems like he's asking for advice on how to deal with 2 or 3 attackers, there's no place to run, and he wants to know how to put them down as fast as possible with the hardest punch. There are a number of assumptions he's making in this question. I tried to answer it as best I could." CreationDate="2014-05-15T03:07:39.230" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5204" PostId="3017" Score="0" Text="exactly steve   ." CreationDate="2014-05-15T03:38:02.207" UserId="1926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5205" PostId="3019" Score="0" Text="thanks steve. thanks for spending time on it. great job!!!!" CreationDate="2014-05-15T03:47:25.997" UserId="1926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5206" PostId="3018" Score="9" Text="Hi Curry, I added your comments to your answer because that's where they belong. I'm fascinated by the fact that you were allowed to knock inmates out while working in corrections. It's a little weird to call that &quot;humane&quot;, especially based on &quot;statistics&quot;, but it's interesting." CreationDate="2014-05-15T06:40:23.947" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5207" PostId="3021" Score="3" Text="The [recovery position](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recovery_position), while not universally appropriate, is a good thing to keep in mind." CreationDate="2014-05-15T08:32:17.123" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5208" PostId="3022" Score="0" Text="I know that it is my responsibility to keep the attacker alive, even if he tried to kill me, that's why I did the question in first place :)" CreationDate="2014-05-15T08:51:57.457" UserId="1932" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5210" PostId="1014" Score="0" Text="If I recall correctly, there are also some nerves in the jawline that can get triggered by the jaw being slammed shut by the punch, so that might also factor in." CreationDate="2014-05-15T16:07:13.797" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5212" PostId="1014" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan That would be the Trigeminal Nerve, which is (generally) located just to the side of the chin. Possible to activate with a straight punch, but better chance when offset to the side a little." CreationDate="2014-05-16T00:36:05.513" UserId="1026" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5213" PostId="3018" Score="1" Text="Not sure where you worked, but a guy that trains at our studio is a corrections officer, and they are absolutely not allowed to do anything like that except as a complete last resort." CreationDate="2014-05-16T14:20:08.820" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5215" PostId="3025" Score="0" Text="That is a very detailed answer thank you! Any video links would be brilliant! I am quite new to jiu jitsu so I havent experimented with the de la riva etc yet lol!" CreationDate="2014-05-17T08:49:13.513" UserId="1923" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5217" PostId="1805" Score="2" Text="Don't train a full contact sport, but if you ever step into a situation that you are being attacked and you decided not to learn Martial arts. The Guy beating you up will not care about your academics or aesthetics :)" CreationDate="2014-05-14T05:29:46.660" UserDisplayName="user1928" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5218" PostId="3029" Score="0" Text="I've seen some McDojangs in my life.  I've also seen some dojangs that are called McDojangs simply because they are successful, usually by schools with low attendance because their training is too &quot;hardcore&quot;." CreationDate="2014-05-19T13:05:13.940" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5219" PostId="3031" Score="1" Text="-1. This is highly subjective. There are many TKD schools that do not emphasize competition, and are heavier on the defense/application aspects." CreationDate="2014-05-19T15:17:24.367" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5220" PostId="3029" Score="0" Text="The business model that typifies a McDojo is one where students sign long-term contracts, there are lots of different belt colors, each belt color requires paying large fees for a testing, and everyone basically passes their tests. In a McDojo you're promised a black belt if you just pay the tuition, pay the testing fees, and have a real minimum (very low bar) of skill. They're in it for the money only. These places graduate black belts after just 2 years, sometimes less. And you even see 5 year old black belts. Their quality is poor. And often times, the instructor is a fraud." CreationDate="2014-05-19T18:49:07.597" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5221" PostId="3034" Score="3" Text="To be pedantic, do you have a source?... ^_~" CreationDate="2014-05-20T06:35:35.487" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5223" PostId="3042" Score="0" Text="please elaborate on the targets.  For example, I assume neck for 1 &amp; 2, but can't think of an effective target for a knife-hand for 3 &amp; 4." CreationDate="2014-05-21T13:50:25.213" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5224" PostId="3042" Score="0" Text="also, do the hands alternate, or is it the same hand for each strike as with stick and knife" CreationDate="2014-05-21T13:51:20.283" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5225" PostId="3042" Score="0" Text="this is a good answer.  i'll leave it open for a few days before I accept though.  thanks, Sean." CreationDate="2014-05-21T14:05:17.117" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5226" PostId="3042" Score="0" Text="Thank you. I will note that this was over a decade ago, and the instructor in question was fond of incorporating whatever worked into his teaching, so there may be a more official answer. Under interesting links I ran into trying to find a more canonical answer, the differing 12 strikes of FMA: http://arniseskrimamalang.wordpress.com/apa-itu-beladiri-filipina/basic-angles-strike-of-different-style/" CreationDate="2014-05-21T14:09:49.360" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5227" PostId="3042" Score="0" Text="Awesome.  Thanks for the link!  It shows several different styles of the 12 angles." CreationDate="2014-05-21T14:20:10.493" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5228" PostId="3031" Score="0" Text="I'll second the idea that you should do something like wrestling or Brazilian Jiujitsu before or at the same time as taking TKD, if TKD is something you want to do for self-defense. I've seen some good examples of TKD used in MMA competition. But those people had to also train in wrestling and BJJ, as well as one or more of: boxing, Muay Thai, or kick-boxing. It's not that TKD can't be useful. It can. But you definitely need to train in these other things to make it so. Especially BJJ, wrestling, and/or MMA. So you're not wrong, Juann Strauss." CreationDate="2014-05-21T17:59:59.333" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5230" PostId="3021" Score="2" Text="That is a question to bring up to your coach, btw. hes the one who teach you to choke poeple, hes also the one who should teach you about recovery." CreationDate="2014-05-21T19:06:48.847" UserId="1526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5231" PostId="3030" Score="0" Text="So, it sounds like the short version is you recommend taking multiple martial arts which focus on full force sparring such as GJJ, boxing, wrestling, and Muay Thai." CreationDate="2014-05-21T19:28:13.433" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5232" PostId="3031" Score="0" Text="I would reword this to emphasize that different TKD schools approach it differently, but otherwise I think this is a solid answer.  It takes a reasonable position of authority from experience, but also fully explains the reasoning and provides an alternative.  It also happens to fit with my *limited* experience from when I tried TKD." CreationDate="2014-05-21T19:31:06.300" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5233" PostId="3030" Score="0" Text="Full resistance, not necessarily force. The two are different. And yes, those arts do involve fully resisting opponents. But I'm not saying your training must involve getting beat up every day. In fact, the opposite is needed. You need a safe way to practice with full resistance so that you can keep coming back day after day and make progress, hopefully while having a lot of fun as well! You increase force as you are capable of doing so safely. That comes gradually." CreationDate="2014-05-21T21:36:21.693" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5235" PostId="3030" Score="0" Text="No problem. Fully resisting opponents is half of my answer. The other half is to choose martial arts that give you skill in all 3 ranges of unarmed combat: free-fighting, clinch, and ground. You can combine martial arts to give you the whole thing. But Gracie Jiujitsu or MMA (either of those two) probably gives you the biggest bang for the buck at this point in time. Just note that both do have sport adaptations, and that you have to watch out for techniques that only work in sport and not self-defense." CreationDate="2014-05-21T22:46:29.813" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5236" PostId="3030" Score="0" Text="I went ahead and added a couple paragraphs in the answer to clarify the difference between &quot;force&quot; and &quot;resistance&quot;." CreationDate="2014-05-22T03:05:42.100" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5239" PostId="3030" Score="0" Text="Shodokan Aikido has full on resistance training in training (randori-ho methodology) and full non-compliance competitions (aka shiai)." CreationDate="2014-05-22T07:43:27.790" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5241" PostId="1835" Score="0" Text="You can try concentrating on not clenching your fists." CreationDate="2014-05-22T10:07:38.873" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5242" PostId="3029" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand - Long term contracts (12-24 months) are a common business tool, nothing more. It allows a business owner to plan and project income over an extended time. Any good contract should have an escape clause, for many reasons other than &quot;Yeah, I got bored&quot;." CreationDate="2014-05-22T15:19:15.847" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5243" PostId="3029" Score="0" Text="No, you misunderstood. My list is not an &quot;or&quot;, it's an &quot;and&quot;. These are business practices that combine to maximize income for their schools. Yes, legitimate schools have long term contracts, unfortunately. It's designed to increase their income and to take advantage of the fact that most students will stop going long before their contract period ends. Ka-ching! That's the sound of money. Many good schools do it. Many good schools don't. All bad schools do it, however." CreationDate="2014-05-22T18:06:08.813" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5244" PostId="3030" Score="0" Text="Yes it does. There are some forms of Aikido (like Tomiki) that do actually employ fully resisting opponents in a competition. Notice also when you pull up youtube videos on it, it bares little resemblance to traditional Aikido. Instead, it looks more like Judo, but with different techniques and rules. And that's great! They figure out real quick what works and what doesn't, and what they have to do to adapt the concepts of Aikido into live techniques that they can actually use for real. Most Aikido groups don't do that." CreationDate="2014-05-22T18:18:50.813" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5245" PostId="3030" Score="0" Text="I've been to about a half dozen Aikido dojo. They were all traditional, usually Aikikai. And I trained a little in it. In every case, I was told to &quot;go with&quot; and &quot;never resist&quot; anything done to me. It is a great insult to them if you resist what they do. They make that clear to every new white belt who steps into their dojos. If they resist even a little, they will be floored. It happened to me on several occasions, even though I wasn't resisting on purpose or with much force. They get angry, yell at you, hit you, crank your joints, and throw you on your face. By black belt, nobody resists." CreationDate="2014-05-22T20:58:38.167" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5246" PostId="3031" Score="0" Text="Thanks. What should I take up with TKD? BJJ, Wrestling, Hapkido, Judo, other? Is there a specific thing you recommend?" CreationDate="2014-05-23T04:20:31.257" UserId="1924" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5247" PostId="3031" Score="0" Text="Wrestling. It's not as glamorous as the others, but it's very effective in real-world situations." CreationDate="2014-05-23T07:26:58.330" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5250" PostId="3031" Score="0" Text="My vote would be for BJJ to start with (Gracie Jiujitsu, not sport BJJ). But wrestling is not bad, either." CreationDate="2014-05-23T17:38:07.580" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5251" PostId="3011" Score="0" Text="What did you mean on top ?" CreationDate="2014-05-24T01:16:17.800" UserId="1952" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5252" PostId="3046" Score="0" Text="The idea is not to block the knees but put your arm on the opposite hip. I suggest you to look some UFC fight." CreationDate="2014-05-24T01:18:48.067" UserId="1952" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5253" PostId="3046" Score="1" Text="@Krokop, are there no Thai boxers here to give a thorough answer? UFC will have some great techniques with more wrestling though. An arm on the opposite hip opens you up to an elbow easily." CreationDate="2014-05-24T14:05:13.850" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5254" PostId="3011" Score="0" Text="@Krokop, the opponent puts glove on chest, and the recipient puts his glove 'on top' of the opponent glove, so that the opponent's glove is sandwiched between the chest and glove" CreationDate="2014-05-24T14:07:08.093" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5255" PostId="3046" Score="0" Text="It all depends on what your goal is. In muay thai they come regain control and staying the quark elbows." CreationDate="2014-05-24T16:37:25.527" UserId="1952" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5256" PostId="3011" Score="1" Text="Ok I see. This is a good technique to do but not necessarily easy." CreationDate="2014-05-24T16:40:16.450" UserId="1952" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5257" PostId="42" Score="3" Text="-1 For the first paragraph. Show some data for that. Cutting of the blood flow for a few seconds won't do any kind of damage as brain damage usually starts occurring withing few minutes of unconsciousnes and a few seconds is definetly not minutes." CreationDate="2014-05-24T18:19:19.940" UserDisplayName="user1221" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5258" PostId="41" Score="1" Text="+1 for the only answer that provides the correct information from the dangers of blood choking. Being out for a few seconds shouldn't do any real harm except a headache. 4-6 minutes, that's another story." CreationDate="2014-05-24T18:23:10.100" UserDisplayName="user1221" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5259" PostId="3054" Score="1" Text="great answer. I saw this a few times in training I think, by more experienced fighters. I wasn't exactly sure of how the mechanics worked. It makes sense and I will practice it :)" CreationDate="2014-05-25T22:37:50.913" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5260" PostId="3054" Score="0" Text="also, have you seen a technique of turning the body and placing the shin at the base of the opponent's thigh and then leaning on it while holding their head/neck with the leading arm?" CreationDate="2014-05-25T22:40:11.360" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5261" PostId="3032" Score="0" Text="Was it this article? http://www.bjjstyle.com/news/mma-fighters-train-bjj-in-gi.php" CreationDate="2014-05-26T10:57:42.727" UserId="1114" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5262" PostId="3053" Score="0" Text="So you sort of think that he's not the best choice?" CreationDate="2014-05-26T18:36:17.550" UserId="1924" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5263" PostId="3053" Score="0" Text="Can you send me a link to those videos? Maybe I'll do boxing instead?" CreationDate="2014-05-26T18:38:38.453" UserId="1924" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5264" PostId="3053" Score="0" Text="Or does a demonstration not really matter?" CreationDate="2014-05-26T18:46:27.697" UserId="1924" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5265" PostId="3053" Score="0" Text="The student demo one I watched was www.youtube.com/watch?v=r24jCsBhes8.  A demo shows a lot about a school's priorities.  I'm not a big fan of boxing (any sporting rules or equipment tends to skew the technique, and I think a mix of contact and non-contact with and without protective equipment and allowing elbows, knees, kicks etc. is important for a striking art) but boxing does quickly impart useful practical skills and you could do a lot worse.  After a year or two I'd suggest trying something in addition or instead of boxing, but it'll be useful experience...." CreationDate="2014-05-27T01:53:58.057" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5266" PostId="3053" Score="0" Text="Is shadow boxing a good boxing gym or is Trinity better?" CreationDate="2014-05-27T22:54:51.680" UserId="1924" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5267" PostId="3053" Score="0" Text="They are both on Santa Monica boulevard. Oh, by the way I took a trial lesson at Jun Chong. Is there anything you might want to ask me? I also would prefer a boxing class to an individual trainer." CreationDate="2014-05-27T22:55:23.667" UserId="1924" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5268" PostId="3053" Score="0" Text="@user2932: I live in Japan and I've never heard of these places... Jun Chong has enough online presence that I could have a look, but I'm not sure about the boxing gym - not my specialty either.  One lesson's not much to go by, but a few questions for yourself: did you learn stances/footwork first? was everyone kept focused on what they were meant to be studying, with clear instructions? did you learn both some blocks as well as attacks? was there a clear progression in skill and good attitude throughout the ranks? were senior students friendly but focused? maybe start &quot;what to look for&quot; Q...." CreationDate="2014-05-28T01:26:26.727" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5269" PostId="3055" Score="2" Text="Hi, and welcome to the site.  You should back up what you say with some references as it would make your answer much more authoritative." CreationDate="2014-05-28T14:41:43.887" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5270" PostId="3053" Score="0" Text="I used to go there a long time ago and got up until orange belt and almost blue belt. That said, I think this place is the same as when I was there before." CreationDate="2014-05-28T15:50:09.553" UserId="1924" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5271" PostId="3053" Score="0" Text="To answer your questions, at least the ones that showed up, yes we did lots of stances and footwork. We sparred for a pretty long time. They did keep everyone focused and we worked on both blocks and attacks." CreationDate="2014-05-28T15:52:09.493" UserId="1924" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5272" PostId="3053" Score="0" Text="And yes, the students were friendly but focused. I don't see a lot of young black belts. Almost all of them are grown ups. The young kid I used to see training there two years ago still has her red belt, which comes right before black. She had that same rank two years ago and hasn't changed ranking." CreationDate="2014-05-28T15:54:20.427" UserId="1924" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5274" PostId="3053" Score="0" Text="There are a lot of judo exercises done though, as well as some sort of close range self defense forms, as well as other stuff. Does that matter?" CreationDate="2014-05-28T19:23:26.877" UserId="1924" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5275" PostId="3053" Score="0" Text="Well, most of that sounds encouraging.  Having very junior students and beginners do &quot;a lot of sparring&quot; may be premature - were they keeping good form, showing good control?  Hopefully at least some of that was with instructions to focus on specific techniques, tactics or skills.  Some schools let kids have black belts, or even have a separate &quot;junior black belt&quot;, but there's nothing wrong with keeping them on the previous belt until they're of a suitable age - shows she's not just doing it for cheap rewards - good on her!" CreationDate="2014-05-29T01:18:55.527" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5276" PostId="3053" Score="0" Text="Re judo - are you sure it wasn't hapkido?  Anyway, a few minutes of breakfalls can be great for physical strength and conditioning, but I'd worry if too much of the class time and attention was diverted away from the core blocking and striking skills of taekwondo - they take enough time and effort to learn without mixing in joint locking, throws, weapons, gymnastics, chi gung, meditation etc. too.  Besides, if you do want to learn some of those other things you're almost certainly better off finding a school that specialises in them.  What kind of &quot;close range self defense forms&quot;?" CreationDate="2014-05-29T01:24:51.910" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5277" PostId="3053" Score="0" Text="They actually spend plenty of the class working on the striking. It involves a lot of different punches and kicks. When sparring they always tell me to punch then kick then punch and so on. We do an exercise that I find similar to boxing. They have us do all sorts of kicking and punching exercises. There's one where we all run around in a cycle hitting a bag one by one. There's another one where they have us bend down and hold onto a rail and do kick in the reverse direction. I think it's to build flexibility when kicking or something." CreationDate="2014-05-29T01:55:22.607" UserId="1924" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5278" PostId="3053" Score="0" Text="As for the self defense techniques, they have techniques that are sort of like forms, but they aren't katas. They are like combos. They are things like block with both arms, then grab the shoulder with one hand and then trip the person. But I think they are almost all counters. This is the only time I've seen that they teach kicks to the groin. So a lot of stuff like that. Most of it involves either hand grabs or striking." CreationDate="2014-05-29T01:57:55.047" UserId="1924" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5279" PostId="3053" Score="0" Text="And on the side they teach hapkido. They teach it separately, and I might have exaggerated the judo exercises a little bit. They do hand grabs more often than judo. They have us focus a lot more on the forms and the striking. They had one hand movement based one where a partner holds up pads and we have to hit the pads, switching with each arm, as quick as we can. Each lesson is mainly working on punches, kicks, chops, etc plus some other, usually striking oriented ex, self defense forms, katas and maybe one other exercise depending on the day." CreationDate="2014-05-29T02:03:16.177" UserId="1924" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5280" PostId="3053" Score="0" Text="Let us [continue this discussion in chat](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/14791/discussion-between-user2932-and-tony-d)." CreationDate="2014-05-29T02:07:56.430" UserId="1924" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5281" PostId="3053" Score="0" Text="Not all of the above are &quot;close range self defense&quot; exercises. I just wanted to dish out what I can remember doing." CreationDate="2014-05-29T02:11:15.323" UserId="1924" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5282" PostId="3053" Score="0" Text="That all sounds like a reasonable mix of exercises... is there anything in particular that bothers you about the classes, or are you just wondering &quot;if the grass is greener?&quot;.   Would join you in chat but have to get ready to go out...." CreationDate="2014-05-29T02:39:39.597" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5283" PostId="3053" Score="0" Text="Alright, here's honestly why I'm wondering...&#xA;There ARE VERY FEW underage black belts. From what I see those kids are very talented. I've heard people say that TKD schools are McDojos. He has tons of certifications, including WTF TKD, which is trashed by a lot of people. He's also rated as one of the top few martial arts teachers in LA according to different sources. In at lot of reviews of him, they'll mention a lot of things about him like &quot;good for confidence&quot; and &quot;great self defense&quot; but don't really talk about practical self defense besides his site besides that line that comes up." CreationDate="2014-05-29T06:42:21.993" UserId="1924" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5284" PostId="3053" Score="0" Text="The classes as I view them don't bother me, but I'm not an expert on martial arts. I've read about some online, but I definitely don't have as high a degree of experience as a &quot;legit practitioner.&quot; See what I'm saying? Recently, I've been going to see how my knees feel and he's giving me review to get me up to my previous belt from two years ago: orange belt.&#xA;&#xA;I thought I would do some research and ask some more experienced people what they would think. I also like boxing and would be willing to talk about boxing studios as well." CreationDate="2014-05-29T06:46:27.533" UserId="1924" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5285" PostId="3053" Score="0" Text="Guys, please do not carry on extended conversations in the comments. Either extend the question and/or answer, or take it to a chatroom. Thanks :) Note that I will be tidying these comments up at a later date." CreationDate="2014-05-29T07:15:23.233" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5286" PostId="3060" Score="0" Text="http://judoinfo.com/obi.htm" CreationDate="2014-05-29T12:30:43.057" UserId="1135" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5287" PostId="3054" Score="1" Text="I think what you're describing in the second comment is some kind of lock. It is sometimes used in a weak position in clinch because it immobilizes both opponents and will cause the referee to break up the clinch." CreationDate="2014-05-29T12:52:54.440" UserId="718" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5288" PostId="3060" Score="1" Text="This has several inaccuracies. Shodokan Aikido has red belts for 8th, 7th, and 6th kyu grades, the colour having nothing to do with investing a large portion of your life.  Not all martial arts use Kano's grading system, Muay Thai and Capoeira to name but two." CreationDate="2014-05-29T12:56:45.380" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5289" PostId="3060" Score="3" Text="Also, many (if not most) karate/tkd styled systems only have 9 dan grades, with the 9th dan being reserved for head of the art. 10th dan (if used) is more ceremonial than achievement based." CreationDate="2014-05-29T14:19:55.197" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5290" PostId="3062" Score="0" Text="That was a good point about there being different types of nerves. I didn't make that distinction in my answer. +1" CreationDate="2014-05-29T18:18:07.897" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5291" PostId="291" Score="0" Text="Minor correction: FMA do not use sticks because that is what is available to them.  The sticks are analogs for swords.  Simply put, sticks are used so you don't have to replace your training partner everyday." CreationDate="2014-05-29T19:06:01.860" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5292" PostId="1572" Score="0" Text="heh, gun kata..." CreationDate="2014-05-29T19:07:31.627" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5293" PostId="3062" Score="0" Text="What is a pain nerve and how is that different from a movement nerve?  Where should I bang my arm to hit one and not the other? Diagrams preferably." CreationDate="2014-05-29T20:12:27.843" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5294" PostId="3064" Score="2" Text="There are some really interesting questions in there but as it stands, it is too broad and unclear.  Could you break down each question into its own?" CreationDate="2014-05-30T06:58:29.177" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5295" PostId="3067" Score="1" Text="I don't practice Silat, but I do practice Kali.  In Kali, slaps are used to provide counter-force to launch strikes with, similar to chambering a punch in Karate or Gung Fu.  There is also a &quot;toughness&quot; element to self-slapping, but this is secondary to the aforementioned reason." CreationDate="2014-05-30T11:53:31.827" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5296" PostId="3064" Score="1" Text="I agree.  I'm not voting to close because I believe this question can be salvaged.  Please narrow down your question.  Consider breaking your question into multiple questions." CreationDate="2014-05-30T11:56:43.750" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5297" PostId="3053" Score="0" Text="@user2932: I don't see &quot;very few underage black belts&quot; as a problem - that suggests it's not a McDojo and the kids are being taught patience.  Re how realistic the self defense is... I wouldn't expect too much of all the wrist twisting stuff - what you should look for is: could people hit accurately, fast and hard during sparring if they wanted to, can they thump the heavy bag and pads convincingly, can you attack with purpose - like you might on the street - feeling their footwork and blocks are really keeping them safe, or do they rely on you taking it easy or only attacking &quot;their&quot; way?" CreationDate="2014-05-30T12:44:31.543" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5299" PostId="3067" Score="0" Text="@TheWudangKid I've never heard the &quot;chambering&quot; theory, and it doesn't seem like it'd do anything but rob some energy. I'll ask my teachers, though." CreationDate="2014-05-30T14:47:44.890" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5300" PostId="658" Score="0" Text="I would add to that that, at least out of the Krav Maga schools that I've looked into, they cover a wide variety of topics that require extra props. If you're teaching a class how to handle a kick from their opponent, you just need a space to teach in. If you're teaching them how to defend themselves while exiting a car, you need a car (and quite possibly, an enclosed space into which you can put such car unless your neighbors are blasé about the weapons props being waved around)." CreationDate="2014-05-30T14:58:30.083" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5304" PostId="2944" Score="3" Text="Personally I find the purpose to be self-evident and a tautology: you do break falls to learn how to break falls. Not sure how it isn't obvious." CreationDate="2014-05-30T15:20:20.023" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5305" PostId="3062" Score="0" Text="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golgi_tendon_organ  The Golgi tendon organs measure muscle tension and speed of length change in muscle.  These are your primary forms of proprioception sensation used for &quot;feeling&quot; where your body is positioned.   This is different than the pain/motor nerves that actually go through your muscles.  Since they don't go through the muscles themselves, you don't hit them when you bang your arms." CreationDate="2014-05-30T16:52:47.903" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5306" PostId="3053" Score="0" Text="In that case this dojo's fine. He criticizes people for doing the wrong stuff a lot but not meanly. So I guess I'm fine. Thanks. And I'm pretty patient. Thanks." CreationDate="2014-05-31T00:42:47.197" UserId="1924" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5308" PostId="3060" Score="1" Text="I suspect some of the criticism of this answer is due to the first paragraph making an assertion about judo, and it not being clear whether &quot;some systems&quot; in the second paragraph is &quot;of judo&quot; or in general, but a little googling of my own shows claims of 11th and 12th dans in judo: http://www.budokan-vernier.ch/eng/histo/ceintures.html.  And for the last paragraph, @Sardathrion seems to have missed the &quot;all martial arts *using this system*&quot; (true), and if red means other things at other levels in other arts, so what?.  So +1 from me." CreationDate="2014-06-01T04:52:14.507" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5309" PostId="3072" Score="0" Text="What a great article! Thanks for posting it. I'm sure this will get a lot of discussion here. It's hard knowing what Kit Dale really means, though, from the article. And it sounds like his approach made sense to him but might not be something that can be taught to others very easily. One of the more interesting things he mentioned was the topic of improving teaching methods to get better / faster results than using traditional methods. Maybe the advantages and disadvantages of this form of learning/teaching should be left for another question." CreationDate="2014-06-01T05:08:44.100" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5310" PostId="3075" Score="0" Text="Dave, great answer and thanks for your edit! I think that this approach of concepts over technique is one that is especially useful for beginners? (like myself lol) This is because you have the chance to apply a concept a lot more than a technique. I.e good posture in guard, mount side control etc over attempting a kimura. What do you feel are the most critical concepts in BJJ?" CreationDate="2014-06-01T11:29:21.353" UserId="1923" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5311" PostId="3072" Score="0" Text="Steve, I though the same thing. This link may be of interest to you: Kit talks about chaining techniques/learning methods!" CreationDate="2014-06-01T11:30:43.800" UserId="1923" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5312" PostId="3072" Score="0" Text="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zas8pgG_2F4" CreationDate="2014-06-01T11:31:12.193" UserId="1923" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5313" PostId="3075" Score="0" Text="@RNI2013 Both those questions are way above my ability to answer! :)" CreationDate="2014-06-01T12:21:57.103" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5315" PostId="3054" Score="1" Text="Updated the answer with a link to a video." CreationDate="2014-06-02T07:11:16.207" UserId="718" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5319" PostId="1920" Score="1" Text="As a bonus, the level of awareness that you develop becomes evident, which reduces the chance of a fight starting in the first place, as you won't be giving off the vibe of &quot;easy prey&quot;." CreationDate="2014-06-02T16:03:06.563" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5320" PostId="3054" Score="0" Text="great videos! and perfect how you linked them to the timing to see immediately the move in action! I have been trying to get it to work in practice, but looks like I need more practice^^ they simply do not fall over like in the videos" CreationDate="2014-06-02T16:42:09.500" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5324" PostId="3082" Score="0" Text="I think the idea is not to hold them _in_ your fist but hold them so the keys protrude between your fingers... which gives a much greater force/area ratio when used for striking (more penetration)." CreationDate="2014-06-02T17:29:56.830" UserDisplayName="kbelder" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5327" PostId="3083" Score="1" Text="A wild crackhead appeared.  Victim used scratch.  It's not very effective." CreationDate="2014-06-02T19:17:06.547" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5328" PostId="3080" Score="1" Text="I agree with this.  Thai massage is beneficial, but should not be construed as medicine, nor is your trainer entitled to prescribe anything for your health unless he/she is also a licensed medical doctor." CreationDate="2014-06-02T20:03:16.473" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5329" PostId="3053" Score="0" Text="Listen carefully... constructive criticism can save you years and years of thinking you're better than you are, and help you become better than you think ;-)." CreationDate="2014-06-03T01:58:00.257" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5330" PostId="3088" Score="0" Text="I think I understand. My concern is that none of these actually have an intelligent opponent. And that's a huge variable to neglect when you're learning. Isn't it? Your point about learning a larger attack sequence is perfectly sound though and not something I had considered earlier." CreationDate="2014-06-03T06:44:42.973" UserId="1965" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5331" PostId="3085" Score="3" Text="Kubotan are [illegal weapons](https://www.gov.uk/find-out-if-i-can-buy-or-carry-a-knife) in some countries. Please check with your LEO before carrying one." CreationDate="2014-06-03T06:55:10.033" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5332" PostId="3083" Score="2" Text="Kubotan are [illegal weapons](https://www.gov.uk/find-out-if-i-can-buy-or-carry-a-knife) in some countries. Please check with your LEO before carrying one." CreationDate="2014-06-03T06:55:38.473" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5333" PostId="3088" Score="1" Text="An &quot;intelligent opponent&quot; is a bit of a red herring. It does take some practice to go from practicing kata against thin air to being able to apply it to a real person, that's part of the &quot;many years&quot; I mentioned above. Also while practicing kata you should be visualising what you are doing to the opponent. It takes years and practice, practice, practice... but if you are taught properly then it can be achieved quicker (the shame of it is that many people in more commercial schools can go a lifetime without learning any of this)." CreationDate="2014-06-03T07:03:46.410" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5337" PostId="3064" Score="0" Text="In a nutshell, silat is no different from martial arts like kravmaga and etc. What makes it unique is that is was develop by people with smaller frames, and using it to their advantages.&#xA;&#xA;Many of the moves incorporates very very low base or stances, and has alot of rolls and tumbles and fast movements.&#xA;&#xA;Aside from that, it is known that these practitioners do not wear armours and carry a very sharp dagger (keris) that would be able to pierce armor of that age. The tip was also poisoned so that just a cut would be fatal." CreationDate="2014-06-03T09:52:55.393" UserId="1650" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5338" PostId="3060" Score="1" Text="He is right in saying there are no dan limit in judo. You could technically advange higher, but no one have ever." CreationDate="2014-06-03T11:27:13.450" UserId="1526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5339" PostId="3060" Score="0" Text="Also http://judoinfo.com/judan.htm its not true that 10th belt is a ceremonial acheivement ... or reserve the the &quot;head&quot; of the art ... again, technically anyone could get there. It just takes time (more if you arent considered an exceptional candidate) and you must show dedication to the arts." CreationDate="2014-06-03T11:29:47.283" UserId="1526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5340" PostId="3067" Score="0" Text="@Dave Newton, the concept of chambering may have been a bit theoretical for the explanation I gave.  In essence, you slap a body part (say, the opposite hip) and immediately bounce your hand off to effect a faster strike.  A slap-bounce is not a primary technique and is always, to my knowledge, setup from a previous strike.  For example, right jab, slap left hip with right hand/slap right shoulder with left hand, use your hip to bounce the right hand off for a back-fist.  In this way, strikes flow one into the next." CreationDate="2014-06-03T12:35:09.327" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5341" PostId="2077" Score="1" Text="&quot;JKD **secret** is to make the other guy move first into range where you intercept his actions.&quot;  Well now everybody knows!" CreationDate="2014-06-03T13:30:03.240" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5342" PostId="3089" Score="2" Text="This. I worked in an ER, and I've seen a few injuries where the webbing between the fingers was shredded, keys embedded in palms, etc. Also, in many countries assault is merely the threat, battery is the act of striking. It can be compounded as you say, by wielding anything that appears to be a weapon." CreationDate="2014-06-03T14:25:32.727" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5343" PostId="3060" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion Firstly Kano's grading system was made for Judo and then adopted by other Japanese Martial arts. Over time several other martial arts started adopting similar gradigns, but the question my friend is ON JUDO not on muay thai and capeoria, etc so I think that means my answer is ON TOPIC and yours is not :-)" CreationDate="2014-06-03T14:26:07.107" UserId="1135" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5344" PostId="3060" Score="0" Text="And I did not say ALL systems :-)" CreationDate="2014-06-03T14:31:27.327" UserId="1135" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5345" PostId="3086" Score="2" Text="Be prepared for this self-observation to be de-moralizing as your self-image and corresponding image of yourself doing the movements contrasts sharply with what you see on the screen.  Anytime you think &quot;Wow, I sure am getting good&quot; try filming yourself." CreationDate="2014-06-03T14:49:46.340" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5346" PostId="3086" Score="0" Text="Oi... I videotaped a capoeira roda that I was participating in. I was clumsy. I was slow. And I looked chunky. That said, the camera method helped me immensely with my handstands and broken cartwheels." CreationDate="2014-06-03T15:14:24.833" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5347" PostId="1135" Score="0" Text="A football coach who was one of my sports medicine instructors did cold soak for 10 minutes then warm/hot as his tool for his players." CreationDate="2014-06-03T16:23:06.230" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5348" PostId="3097" Score="1" Text="+1 solid advice, and I like the &quot;classic prison shank manoeuvre&quot; link - cheers!" CreationDate="2014-06-04T16:03:28.263" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5354" PostId="3097" Score="0" Text="Good answer. That prison shank video was great. I'm trying to learn how to actually survive in a real knife fight-- a lot of martial arts advice is impractical or overly ideal/simplified. What would you recommend doing to train for that? Obviously I never want to get into a knife fight, but it seems foolish to train in martial arts without seriously training for that possibility." CreationDate="2014-06-05T14:40:14.770" UserId="1235" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5356" PostId="3097" Score="0" Text="There's the low commitment answer and the high commitment answer.  The low commitment answer is to cover up, and find a way to stun &amp; run or control &amp; break and get away ASAP.  The high commitment answer is to study an art like kali, escrima, silat... a lot of Systema also has a lot of good knife stuff as well.  Knives are dangerous, change angles fast, and this is why there's entire arts devoted towards dealing with them (especially now we live in an era w/o swords, spears, and other long range weapons as standard...)" CreationDate="2014-06-05T15:17:19.257" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5357" PostId="3097" Score="0" Text="Some videos w/useful information or examples: [6 Life Saving Rules](http://youtu.be/b4Ar2xkf5kQ) [A Systema example](http://youtu.be/I1PW0McagJU) [Improvised Weapons examples](http://youtu.be/H5C676_VwTw) [Angles and skilled knife fighting](http://youtu.be/g-lisLRtsfE)" CreationDate="2014-06-05T15:33:28.683" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5362" PostId="3097" Score="2" Text="The &quot;prison shank&quot; video shows exactly why the krav maga instructor linked to in the question will be going home without a few internal organs." CreationDate="2014-06-06T12:35:37.397" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5364" PostId="2345" Score="0" Text="Why the downvote and no comment?" CreationDate="2014-06-06T22:21:56.273" UserId="4" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5367" PostId="912" Score="0" Text="This feels like weird to me (not saying its a bad question). We didnt had any &quot;interview&quot; at my tests (in judo). People trust the coaches decision, if your coach send you in, basicly he's vooching for you and thats enough." CreationDate="2014-06-08T02:53:14.853" UserId="1526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5368" PostId="2406" Score="1" Text="inside leg kicks are great counters against any sort of big strike or charge. Excellent answer" CreationDate="2014-06-09T06:23:31.160" UserId="1207" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5373" PostId="3111" Score="4" Text="Can you provide a thorough explanation for why this book is good and what is in it that you would recommend?" CreationDate="2014-06-12T02:15:00.560" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5375" PostId="1827" Score="1" Text="Several recent medical studies have shown that consuming beer improves recovery after physical exercise. Here is one of in the International Journal of Sports Nutrition and Exercise Metabolism: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23690556. So, you need to drink more :)" CreationDate="2014-06-12T14:29:57.833" UserId="660" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5376" PostId="1682" Score="0" Text="You are incorrect on the awase zuki - the technique you are describing (and in the picture) is called Yama zuki." CreationDate="2014-06-12T14:59:40.537" UserId="660" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5377" PostId="3111" Score="0" Text="I'm not too versed in the realm of joint locks with sticks but the book seemed to have a good basic overview of a couple different stick/arm/body locks. There are also clear diagrams of movement and feet placement. Honestly though I have to re-read it again." CreationDate="2014-06-13T00:56:29.677" UserId="1984" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5378" PostId="3111" Score="1" Text="I've read that book. It's a very traditional Japanese flavor of stick fighting. And it's kind of a misnomer. It's less &quot;stick&quot; and more &quot;hanbo&quot; (3-4 foot staff). A &quot;stick&quot; tends to be more like 1-2 feet long. The Japanese flavor represented in the book is very different from the Filipino flavor (of escrima / kali, which is what I tend to think of when someone says &quot;stick fighting&quot;). Both flavors offer something, and they don't overlap much. So the book is worth getting." CreationDate="2014-06-13T02:20:26.703" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5379" PostId="3111" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the recommendation.  I'm not really concerned about the culture of origin, more about working with the actual sticks themselves.  So, for example, people might have good sources involving older police batons or clubs that would be just as applicable.  Thanks!" CreationDate="2014-06-13T08:20:39.670" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5380" PostId="3105" Score="0" Text="good advice to not let the posture be broken. i had that happen last night when a guy brought me down from shear force on my neck and I couldn't squat enough" CreationDate="2014-06-13T14:19:58.107" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5381" PostId="3111" Score="2" Text="@JD3Creative Would you mind editing the answer to include your comment here with the explanation and anything else you can tell us?" CreationDate="2014-06-13T16:10:28.297" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5382" PostId="3116" Score="0" Text="Thanks! I had seen some of the Dog Brothers' stuff years ago, but all I saw was striking.  I'll look again, if they've branched out into takedowns and grapples with it." CreationDate="2014-06-14T01:58:53.937" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5385" PostId="3116" Score="1" Text="Nope, they've been seriously into BJJ and combining it with stick and knife fighting for a long time now. They start out on their feet with sticks, but it often ends up on the ground. They do chokes and other things with the sticks. They also have practice knives that they use with their grappling." CreationDate="2014-06-14T03:09:45.233" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5386" PostId="3118" Score="0" Text="&quot;if you see a camouflage belt&quot; - I'm confused... which one was the smart arse answer? ;-]" CreationDate="2014-06-14T07:37:28.277" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5387" PostId="3118" Score="1" Text="@TonyD&#xA;The American Taekwando Association has a camouflage belt in their lineup. http://ataonline.com/taekwondo/belts/index.asp They get some ridicule for it." CreationDate="2014-06-14T13:34:36.550" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5388" PostId="3121" Score="0" Text="I'm guessing you're referring to the femoral artery?  100% bleed out doesn't seem to match medical studies ( http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0741521401700912 ), although granted these injuries probably were not &quot;skilled personnel&quot; inflicting them, but with 46% being gunshots and 12% being blades, you'd think there'd by a much higher rate of death or at least amputation if it was that bad overall.  No, it's not good to get cut there, for sure, it's just not 100%." CreationDate="2014-06-15T08:45:48.857" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5389" PostId="3121" Score="0" Text="Yes, that is its name.  Thanks.  I suppose I was a little dramatic with 100%.  It's just you have a large chance if loosing too much blood if cut there." CreationDate="2014-06-15T15:14:25.780" UserId="1655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5390" PostId="3118" Score="2" Text="Part of the testing requirements for camo belt is doing ten round kicks without spilling your beer." CreationDate="2014-06-17T14:07:05.407" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5391" PostId="3118" Score="0" Text="@TheWudangKid:&#xA;:) Funny. While I see the camo belt as a silly marketing thing, I have to say that I really don't see it as any different than most of the belts. My understanding is that belt colors are essentially arbitrary choices that people have created backstories for rather than having any meaning from the start." CreationDate="2014-06-17T14:35:22.727" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5395" PostId="2576" Score="0" Text="in ufc, anderson &quot;the spider&quot; silva, broke his leg, throwing a hard lower kick that was checked! so brutal technique!" CreationDate="2014-06-18T09:09:16.003" UserId="1994" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5397" PostId="3126" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site.  Have a look at [good subjective bad subjectiv](http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/09/good-subjective-bad-subjective/) as there is a good question in there.  I feel (but I might be wrong) that currently, the question reads too much as inviting discussion which SE does not do well at all." CreationDate="2014-06-18T10:35:00.227" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5398" PostId="3126" Score="0" Text="I see what you mean. I'm not deliberately trying to invite idle discussion per se; I'd just like to know if my current training path is along the right lines or not." CreationDate="2014-06-18T10:57:58.653" UserId="1991" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5399" PostId="3127" Score="1" Text="*Any martial art really is about knocking the other guy out* ... That's a really narrow minded view." CreationDate="2014-06-18T11:55:30.620" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5400" PostId="3127" Score="1" Text="No it's not. If you want to dance, then take up dancing. If you want spirituality, join a church. If you want a good workout, try Tae-bo. If you want to learn how to fight, then take up a MARTIAL art. http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Amartial" CreationDate="2014-06-18T12:36:06.007" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5401" PostId="3127" Score="2" Text="Blanket statements almost always have an exception that proves them wrong (see what I did there?).  Aikido is not (usually) about knocking people out.  Kali tends to be more about stabbin' folks.  But, yeah, boxing is totally about knocking dudes out." CreationDate="2014-06-18T12:38:52.083" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5402" PostId="3127" Score="0" Text="Feel free to substitute any reference to knocking out with &quot;stab to death&quot;, &quot;incapacitate&quot;, etc. as the mood strikes you. But let me remind you that between us three, I am the one who not only personally performed well in international events, but also trained students who did well in said events. One even took the world championship title in her division. That's because neither myself, nor my students were ever under any illusion as to the point of martial arts." CreationDate="2014-06-18T12:46:48.123" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5403" PostId="3125" Score="3" Text="That's kind of a stupid way to train, even with a cup on.  Cups are for ACCIDENTAL groin injuries.  Sounds like these guys are way too nonchalant.  May I suggest a traditional martial art?  If you can find a school where the instructor knows what fighting is really like, you may also find that they take the instruction more seriously, in addition to being more precise with their techniques." CreationDate="2014-06-18T12:48:31.870" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5404" PostId="3125" Score="0" Text="@TheWudangKid I have been looking for more traditional stuff but KM seemed like a perfect combination of strength + endurance and technics training without the constant pressure to be committed to go on tournaments. Any Ideas? tried Wing Tsun and Kickboxing?" CreationDate="2014-06-18T13:01:39.080" UserId="299" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5405" PostId="3127" Score="0" Text="... and stepping away from the flames... ^_~" CreationDate="2014-06-18T13:04:30.833" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5406" PostId="3125" Score="2" Text="Wing Chun can be really good if you find a school that does two things A) teaches Wing Chun that is both authentic and realistic and B) doesn't spend more time bad-mouthing other arts and even other Wing Chun branches than it does training.  You can't go wrong with some good ol' kickboxing, but you may find you outgrow the limited range of techniques it provides.  If you can find a JKD school, they will probably also do WC as well as Kali, two very good arts, and they won't be as political about their WC." CreationDate="2014-06-18T13:07:30.793" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5407" PostId="3127" Score="0" Text="Oh come on, I didn't even use a single exclamation mark." CreationDate="2014-06-18T14:04:20.087" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5408" PostId="3114" Score="1" Text="why worm guard?  if you are having trouble with basic guards, this is probably something to leave till a bit later" CreationDate="2014-06-19T04:47:22.310" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5413" PostId="3127" Score="1" Text="AFAICR, many martial arts specifically *do* involve more than (insert incapacitating element here) the opponent(s). In many of those cases, it's because actual combat demands more than technique: it deeply involves the mind and the ability to remain calm during said confrontation. Regarding the appeal to authority for the blanket statement: there are a bunch of authorities who would disagree that all martial arts are solely about incapacitating opponents. I don't really believe that kind of attitude is the best way to settle disputes." CreationDate="2014-06-19T13:20:24.690" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5414" PostId="3127" Score="1" Text="You learn to remain calm by gaining experience. It's the same principle that underpins any contact sport. Freaking out happens when you don't know what just hit you or what's going to happen next. Once you get used to the idea that a punch or kick to the face feels so-and-so, your brain spends less time analysing what just happened, leaving more processing time available for &quot;Okay, how do we do that to the other guy?&quot;. This shouldn't be a revolutionary concept. Go ask a boxer how he was taught not to freak out about being hit in the face." CreationDate="2014-06-19T14:11:01.730" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5415" PostId="2110" Score="0" Text="Disagree with comment about being a good Wing Chun practicioner without sparring.  We should never seek to fight, by my definition of fight (attempting to injure/kill each other), but without sparring there is no way to develop the timing and spatial awareness you need if you were forced to fight." CreationDate="2014-06-19T14:19:09.810" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5416" PostId="2110" Score="2" Text="Also, what is the purpose of the water not flicking back on you when you hit a wet towel?  What are you supposed to do to make that not happen?  Sincerely curious, since this is not a drill I've ever done in Wing Chun." CreationDate="2014-06-19T14:20:39.970" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5417" PostId="3129" Score="1" Text="possible duplicate of [How should a novice train if unable to join a dojo yet?](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/1753/how-should-a-novice-train-if-unable-to-join-a-dojo-yet)" CreationDate="2014-06-19T15:22:13.543" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5420" PostId="2776" Score="0" Text="Your latest edit changes the scope of the question. It would suggest asking a new question based on your last paragraph." CreationDate="2014-06-20T09:49:54.430" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5421" PostId="3111" Score="0" Text="It's a nice classical reference work, but I think it's far from what the current state-of-the-art is in this area." CreationDate="2014-06-20T21:38:38.967" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5422" PostId="3135" Score="4" Text="If you must choose only one of the three then look at jujitsu. Otherwise... why not do all three until you get proficient?" CreationDate="2014-06-23T04:55:07.367" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5423" PostId="3135" Score="0" Text="I agree with slugster's comment with a slight variation; after trying all three I would stick to the one that you are best at or enjoy the most. Its best to work on the one you get to speed with rather than force yourself to do something which feels unnatural" CreationDate="2014-06-23T08:55:38.817" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5428" PostId="3130" Score="2" Text="Judo can be practice alone, if you have a good base. movements and getting your oponent offbalance is repetitive. when I got lazy and complain about doing the same move more than 10 or 15 time, my coach keep on telling me how he practice O-soto-gari on trees in japan. For a long time, thousands of time per days. After, he went to town competitions and won easily doing only this move. ( should I turn this into a judo-kid movie ? )" CreationDate="2014-06-23T13:42:20.293" UserId="1526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5429" PostId="3130" Score="0" Text="as Wudang Kid said, go to schools your interested in. They might get you to train kids and clean up the place free and in exchange they'll late you take classes free too. My coach was doing this to alot of poeple. He &quot;rent&quot; them the appartment above the dojo for free, they trained for free, but they were teaching all the basic classes." CreationDate="2014-06-23T13:43:59.793" UserId="1526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5430" PostId="3135" Score="0" Text="@slugster I was thinking that as well.  I guess I would look for a MMA teacher specifically?" CreationDate="2014-06-23T14:42:48.840" UserId="2003" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5431" PostId="3135" Score="0" Text="@Vass Yah, I was looking for which one people have experienced is best for someone like me.  I didn't know if it was worth the time to try each one for a bit, then pick." CreationDate="2014-06-23T14:43:43.593" UserId="2003" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5432" PostId="3136" Score="0" Text="*You are looking for a unicorn there.*  I realized that as I was typing the question lol." CreationDate="2014-06-23T14:49:15.343" UserId="2003" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5433" PostId="3136" Score="5" Text="Unicorn style is pretty dangerous... Their horns are nothing to mess around with." CreationDate="2014-06-23T15:48:33.753" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5434" PostId="3135" Score="3" Text="please clarify: Japanese Jujitsu or Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.  There are significant differences between the two.  Not that either is better or worse than the other.  Also, general consensus states that it would be better to have a good teacher in a martial art that you do not, for whatever reason, prefer than a bad teacher in a martial art that you prefer." CreationDate="2014-06-23T16:01:33.537" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5435" PostId="3136" Score="2" Text="[Unicorn are dangerous and so are their hunters](http://www.fantasy-magazine.com/new/new-fiction/a-hunters-ode-to-his-bait/). Link to *A Hunter’s Ode to His Bait* by Carrie Vaughn." CreationDate="2014-06-24T06:34:46.170" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5436" PostId="3141" Score="5" Text="This is currently terrible answer but could be a good one. You need to define and explain some of those terms, add references to where they come from, and focus on answering the question which is *Is choondu marmam real?*  I do hope that you take the time to edit your answer." CreationDate="2014-06-24T08:14:28.913" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5438" PostId="3125" Score="1" Text="&quot;your body grow defences to prevent further damage&quot; actually means either nerve damage or scar tissue.  In this case, because the groin is so sensitive, that would be nerve damage.  Regularly taking shots is probably not a good plan, regardless of how macho folks get to feel at the end of the day..." CreationDate="2014-06-24T16:10:58.423" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5439" PostId="3125" Score="0" Text="I would also advise to develop your own defences against groin attacks like proper posture that does not open your groin so readily to the attack. However, it seems to me, that this is the type of thing your classmates might point out to you." CreationDate="2014-06-25T10:36:19.017" UserId="424" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5440" PostId="3125" Score="0" Text="**If you have something to add, either edit the post or post your own answer.** Remember, comments are going to be deleted. That came out harsher than I wanted..." CreationDate="2014-06-25T10:40:26.230" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5441" PostId="3125" Score="1" Text="Yup, the conversation would be a great thing to take to [chat](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/2353/the-dojo) except where it is leading to edits." CreationDate="2014-06-25T11:17:22.407" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5444" PostId="3144" Score="0" Text="Could you elaborate on how these are designed to be rolled over and where they might be found?" CreationDate="2014-06-25T23:33:37.267" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5445" PostId="3144" Score="0" Text="See the edit to my answer." CreationDate="2014-06-26T00:06:21.397" UserId="1655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5450" PostId="2905" Score="0" Text="You dont hurt yourself in judo by &quot;falling wrong&quot; as when you walk on the slippery ground. When you hurt yourself in judo is when you try to bloc/counter someone who is applying a force to one direction, with something you shouldnt. (Try to bloc harai goshi by &quot;locking&quot; your knees when someone sweeps your leg, put your arm behind you when you are on the ground to prevent you rolling on your back while someone is pushing  you, etc). This is why you normally dont see much injury in high level training, when someone &quot;gets&quot; you, your roll over with him. These big injuries happens in competitions." CreationDate="2014-07-02T15:27:38.987" UserId="1526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5451" PostId="1610" Score="1" Text="@Wudang: If I could upvote your comment more than once, I would." CreationDate="2014-07-03T11:25:49.747" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5453" PostId="3136" Score="1" Text="So there ya go... learn Unicorn style. [Qilin Chuan](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTcfmvhF3xQ).  The official kung fu style of MA Exchange?" CreationDate="2014-07-03T13:12:16.800" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5454" PostId="3161" Score="6" Text="Why not enroll them in a TKD class?  Are you planning on teaching them yourself throughout their training?  If so, being a blue belt 20 years ago isn't enough.  If not, then why not get them started in the style they're going to be training long-term?  May I suggest that if you do not know *what* to teach them, you probably don't remember how either.  You might be planting mistakes that some poor TKD instructor is going to have to weed out later. Please take this as constructive criticism." CreationDate="2014-07-03T18:32:21.367" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5455" PostId="3161" Score="0" Text="I get the constructive criticism. Understood. But the problem is stackexchange isn't the place for discussions and back-and-forths about personal topics. I was trying to keep a clean and simple post asking a simple and straightforward question that would be easy to answer." CreationDate="2014-07-03T18:45:07.843" UserId="1189" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5456" PostId="3161" Score="0" Text="I'm trying to avoid getting this topic shut down as it deserves a place, especially in this topic. But to answer your question, I can't afford to enroll them and would like a good reason to start practicing myself. I made it to blue, served in the marines and continued martial training, but got a desk/IT job and now 20 years later am out of shape. I sincerely doubt I could introduce enough problems from bad training on &quot;how to hold the hand&quot; or &quot;stand this way for this stance&quot; so my concerns are not in this range. I just would like a list of what the basics are rather than covering everything." CreationDate="2014-07-03T18:47:40.773" UserId="1189" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5457" PostId="3161" Score="0" Text="Stackexchange shuts down and closes topics that are off-topic and as it stands now my topic is dead on, straightforward, easily answered and should be fine as it stands. So to all future commenters, if you don't want to answer the question please feel free to move on to another question! Have a great day." CreationDate="2014-07-03T18:48:39.753" UserId="1189" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5458" PostId="3161" Score="0" Text="I wouldn't worry about it for back-and-forth in the comments.  That's what comments are for.  This is a legit question and therefore should not be voted to close." CreationDate="2014-07-03T18:50:37.000" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5459" PostId="3161" Score="0" Text="Ah kewl. I swear I get a topic closed every other day for being too vague or off-topic and it makes me crazy. We need a stackexchange for back and forths... and rambling discussions... I suppose facebook serves that purpose rather well, but the searchability, wikipedia-esqueness of stackexchange makes using it the best." CreationDate="2014-07-03T18:52:24.117" UserId="1189" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5461" PostId="3161" Score="0" Text="[ITF Forms](http://www.taekwondoanimals.com/taekwondo-ITF-forms.asp) The above link will show you the forms for each belt level, at least according to the ITF.  Can't say I care for the sine-wave, but to each their own, and if you don't like sine-wave either, just look at how the Shotokan guys do their forms." CreationDate="2014-07-03T19:19:15.390" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5462" PostId="3162" Score="2" Text="I'd also add that making sure your feet are pointing the right way and the weigh is distributed the right way through the foot / feet" CreationDate="2014-07-04T04:58:00.297" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5463" PostId="3162" Score="0" Text="Just a point; for box jumps make sure that you are landing on relatively soft surfaces. do not land on hard surfaces, this can easily create knee and ankle problems" CreationDate="2014-07-05T17:19:57.127" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5464" PostId="3168" Score="1" Text="Did you mean 'expands' in that last sentence?" CreationDate="2014-07-07T08:21:13.277" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5465" PostId="3161" Score="0" Text="@randomblink You are right that a SE question isn't for the place for discussions, but that's what [chat](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/2353/the-dojo) is for. Every SE site has a chat room. Feel free to use that if you'd like to discuss your problem in more detail." CreationDate="2014-07-07T08:28:08.827" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5466" PostId="3168" Score="1" Text="@THelper: Dog damned dyslexia!!! Thank you. ^_~" CreationDate="2014-07-07T08:29:04.607" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5467" PostId="3167" Score="0" Text="I looked at the link you provided; I didn't see any novels. Books, but no novels." CreationDate="2014-07-07T10:05:44.513" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5468" PostId="3167" Score="0" Text="@MarkC.Wallace: Ah, that could have been my edit.  I looked Peyton Quinn on amazon as I had no idea what he was or what he was writing." CreationDate="2014-07-07T11:59:17.927" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5469" PostId="3169" Score="0" Text="Hi, and welcome to the site.  I edited your post a little so it is easier to read.  As it stands, it's not bad but neither is it good. Could you expand it a little?" CreationDate="2014-07-08T06:30:06.370" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5470" PostId="3169" Score="2" Text="In our school, those are what a student learns in the first five lessons. We learn those basic techniques and use them in combinations, and with drills on the bag and targets. We also learn how to bow (shiu), attention (charyot), ready stance (joonbi), fighting stance (kyroogi joonbi), the school regulations and some other simple Korean terms (hana &quot;one&quot;, dul &quot;two&quot;, etc.). To ask me to expand on how to perform the techniques, is to perhaps go against everything I've learned! We are taught to teach by showing, not talking. So maybe find some good videos that show good technique. :-)" CreationDate="2014-07-08T14:19:40.847" UserId="2022" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5471" PostId="3097" Score="3" Text="That video link should be required watching for every martial artist who does any type of &quot;knife defense&quot; training.  Knife defense drills are, imo, largely a waste of time.  You learn more in a five minute sparring session with a determined knife wielding attacker." CreationDate="2014-07-08T16:41:09.967" UserId="1681" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5473" PostId="3170" Score="0" Text="I think the temple might also work for a knife hand strike but it's better used on the neck/throat." CreationDate="2014-07-08T20:55:19.463" UserId="1924" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5474" PostId="3136" Score="0" Text="That there is a &quot;unicorn boxing&quot; is very amusing. But on that video, while sifu has some good trapping-range moves, he never moves off his opponent's centerline. *Ugh.* He also wraps his own arms up in ways that are going to lead to bad outcomes when executed at speed. Worse if his opponent has any skill at all at trapping. You're not going to want to depend on that style for self defense." CreationDate="2014-07-08T21:59:06.280" UserId="562" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5475" PostId="3171" Score="3" Text="Due to its location and anchor points I consider it highly unlikely that a throat chop will **break** the clavicle - it is more likely to dislodge or dislocate it - this would most likely be due to whiplash rather than the direct impact. A blow to the middle of the clavicle will break it (and it doesn't take much force)." CreationDate="2014-07-09T02:49:10.713" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5476" PostId="3169" Score="0" Text="I only realized now that randomblink is asking for kata. Kata is a Japanese term, and maybe he is asking for poomse or forms? White belt just teaches simple combinations. Then you work through (depending on your school) the Taeguk, Palgwe, Pyung Ahn (etc., etc.... our school does Chong Bong which is not internationally or competition recognized) forms. Again, another good starting point for searches on the internet." CreationDate="2014-07-09T03:20:18.060" UserId="2022" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="5477" PostId="2470" Score="1" Text="In my opinion (I'm a TKD red belt), this is not the kind of thing you should worry about. If you're in a good Dojang, focus on your training, have fun and when you'll be close to your black belt, you will figure out yourself what lacks in your techniques to deserve it." CreationDate="2014-07-10T03:15:22.550" UserId="2041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6477" PostId="3171" Score="0" Text="According to the Peyton Quinn book I've been reading, it can and so can a punch to the throat, if aimed incidentally at the part of the neck where to clavicle is. That is to assume that the punches and/or chops are done correctly." CreationDate="2014-07-10T05:05:20.047" UserId="1924" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6478" PostId="3171" Score="0" Text="The clavicle is anchored at the [top of the rib cage/sternum](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/Clavicle_-_anterior_view.png), it's on the periphery of the neck but I would hesitate to say it's part of the neck. It can be dislocated, but that's more from whiplash type movement - if you hit someone in the neck hard enough to achieve this then you've probably near killed them." CreationDate="2014-07-10T10:44:47.910" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6479" PostId="909" Score="0" Text="Main point should be : what LEVEL of competitions are you talking about ? I've ref some competitions with very little kids (4-5 years old ), who just stand still, and takes turn throwing each other, 5 time. than we score the kid base on their falls, their techniques, etc. This require basicly no knowledge aside from listenting to the rules. Start with easy local competitions, and see for youself if its too easy or too hard." CreationDate="2014-07-10T14:30:34.650" UserId="1526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6480" PostId="4176" Score="0" Text="well it has shinae marks because when we fight in a kendo training i receive hits at my do dai but those marks stay there as white marks....i don't know how to clean it or restore it for seeing the bright as new..i don't remember the material...but it's the normal do-dai" CreationDate="2014-07-10T19:56:06.007" UserId="2026" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6481" PostId="4176" Score="0" Text="I should have left that as a comment... :-P Kendo is not my martial art, but I did a bit of poking around. I'll add what I can." CreationDate="2014-07-10T20:14:15.690" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6482" PostId="3079" Score="2" Text="Hm, I had some years doing Krav now and my goal never was to defeat the attacker but to get away with as less injuries as possible without being further persued..." CreationDate="2014-07-10T20:27:43.203" UserId="1631" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6483" PostId="4175" Score="0" Text="Wow thank you so much for answering my question. I was getting worried that no one would. I initially thought of RFID however from my understanding of RFID the proximaty is all that matters. I was under the impression that in TKD that impact is also important. Wouldn't RFID tech mean that simply rubbing your foot would be the same as a well aimed kick? I wonder if that impacts strategy." CreationDate="2014-07-10T21:05:51.580" UserId="2039" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6484" PostId="4175" Score="0" Text="It's interesting that there is such limited information as to how the glove / socks actually work. Perhaps the current tech is highly protected?" CreationDate="2014-07-10T21:09:07.577" UserId="2039" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6485" PostId="4175" Score="0" Text="The piezoelectric sensors are what determines impact. It's possible that they use another method such as the combinations of metals that generate electricity when bent, but that has some mechanical drawbacks. The RFID tags then check to be sure that an appropriate striking surface was at the point of impact. The impression I got about the scandal above was that she had an extra RFID tag on her heel that let her hit with an extra surface, but she still had to make sufficient impact." CreationDate="2014-07-11T00:58:57.463" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6486" PostId="4175" Score="0" Text="You can get a little more information in the paper at http://www.ijastnet.com/journals/Vol_3_No_2_February_2013/1.pdf about the levels of impact necessary. They apparently adjust them by sex and weight class." CreationDate="2014-07-11T01:00:53.137" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6488" PostId="4175" Score="0" Text="If you're happy with my answer, can you accept it? :) If a better one comes along, you can always change your acceptance to that one." CreationDate="2014-07-11T17:56:39.897" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6489" PostId="4175" Score="0" Text="Sure, accepted. Thanks again" CreationDate="2014-07-11T18:15:06.050" UserId="2039" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6490" PostId="3169" Score="0" Text="@aleks1217 that is another GREAT example of what I was looking for. **Charyot** and **joonbi** were those pieces I haven't had to use in decades, but I could remember something was missing. Enough that I didn't want to start teaching ANYTHING because I felt I was missing important stuff. Thanks!" CreationDate="2014-07-11T19:45:43.920" UserId="1189" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6491" PostId="4177" Score="1" Text="Depends on the level they're willing to train.  Most public boxing gyms will take you from wherever you're at.  Sounds like you're fit enough to me." CreationDate="2014-07-11T20:36:03.993" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6492" PostId="3169" Score="0" Text="Good, I'm glad to help! Here is the full set. Charyot (attention), kyung yeh (bow), joonbi (ready stance), kyroogi joongi (fighting stance), then hana/dul (one/two) or seijak (pronounced SHEE-jak) (begin). Boro (back to ready). Shiu (at ease)...this is when the student bows and says komahsanida (thank you)." CreationDate="2014-07-12T01:29:16.973" UserId="2022" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6500" PostId="4186" Score="3" Text="What kind of &quot;explosive forward movement&quot;? What kind of unarmed attack?   What kind of armed attack? ... Your question is really unclear although I think there is a good question in there. Can you clarify what problem you are trying to solve?" CreationDate="2014-07-14T06:53:33.123" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6501" PostId="4183" Score="0" Text="Looks like a great book.  I'll give it a look." CreationDate="2014-07-14T11:27:27.437" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6502" PostId="4189" Score="2" Text="Outside of specific movements, I've also seen recommended standing sprints. Enlist a friend with a whistle. Stand at one end of an open space. When your friend blows the whistle, you have to sprint a short distance. You then rinse and repeat. It encourages you to develop the muscle memory to react automatically with full force." CreationDate="2014-07-14T12:36:16.777" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6504" PostId="4189" Score="2" Text="@SeanDuggan: That's great - I often tell people that the best side-on fighting stance has the back foot maybe 30 degrees out from forwards and flat on the floor with knee bent; it should feel like you're ready to push off a starting block for a sprint.  You want that back leg to explode and very efficiently propel you forwards." CreationDate="2014-07-14T12:59:06.520" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6505" PostId="4187" Score="0" Text="This is a great answer. I will slow down on purpose now and focus on what you say. However, how can I deal with someone e.g. going 100% tryin to pass my guard etc. I have heard people say just use technique, i.e. if you have to use too much strength then just let him pass etc? I.e. dont try to stop the pass using muscle" CreationDate="2014-07-14T17:17:18.790" UserId="1923" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6506" PostId="4186" Score="0" Text="I placed the question in general terms knowingly" CreationDate="2014-07-14T22:43:19.017" UserId="1932" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6507" PostId="4192" Score="3" Text="What exactly are you trying to ask here? It's like asking how long is a piece of string. Can you provide a specific context, situation, or usage?" CreationDate="2014-07-15T00:09:19.433" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6509" PostId="3166" Score="1" Text="+1 for mentioning the most obvious target: the ankles. I would just add that the muscles in your foot are just as important, especially the ones at the bottom of the foot that moves your big toe." CreationDate="2014-07-15T12:41:45.283" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6510" PostId="3167" Score="0" Text="If you follow the link you provided to amazon, you can see previews of at least some of his books - I've just spent 20 minutes browsing one (there's a &quot;Surprise Me&quot; link that jumps around showing a few pages here and there, which works well enough for reviewing a book like this)... looks quite reasonable overall - I don't see any reason you should be concerned unless you've been raised in a monastery and never encountered the F word before. ;-)" CreationDate="2014-07-15T13:48:19.747" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6511" PostId="4183" Score="0" Text="I'll second Rory's book, or any of his books. All good stuff" CreationDate="2014-07-15T15:34:06.970" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6515" PostId="4195" Score="1" Text="My style is called  Okinawa Kenpo Karate Kobudo to indicate we also covered weapons." CreationDate="2014-07-16T17:31:50.170" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6516" PostId="4197" Score="6" Text="No.  No, it's not." CreationDate="2014-07-16T20:31:53.190" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6517" PostId="4187" Score="0" Text="yeah, let them pass :)" CreationDate="2014-07-16T21:11:18.723" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6518" PostId="4197" Score="1" Text="As fun as the One Piece Manga is, martial arts from it are not real.   Though, the rentjong dagger from Indonesia is designed to be held by the toes against the foot, and can be used with two daggers in the hands.  Nonetheless, it's better as a surprise weapon than &quot;3 weapon style&quot;." CreationDate="2014-07-16T21:54:49.073" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6519" PostId="3172" Score="2" Text="Compound fractures generally imply risk of infection which can interfere with healing, but in a healthy population, mortality should be low. More interesting are things like penetration of the subclavial artery etc." CreationDate="2014-07-17T09:51:33.543" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6520" PostId="3127" Score="0" Text="&quot;Any martial art really is about knocking the other guy out&quot; - What a very John Kreese style way of looking at Martial Arts.  Ignoring Capoeira, Aikido and all the others that actually require the lack of &quot;knock out&quot; for the moment (despite the back pedalling above), this is a inefficient way to look at it.  So you have run out of reserves in the 11th round yet you're ahead on points...your goal is to go for a knockout...that's very, very unwise advice." CreationDate="2014-07-17T14:16:36.243" UserId="1551" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6521" PostId="3127" Score="0" Text="Listen babe, if you don't grok the MARTIAL part of MARTIAL arts, then I can't help you." CreationDate="2014-07-17T16:04:08.147" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6522" PostId="4197" Score="0" Text="&quot;Less is more.&quot;" CreationDate="2014-07-17T20:22:28.500" UserId="562" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6523" PostId="131" Score="0" Text="Completely untrue. Heavy weights don't make you slower. I train at 5x5 with 80% 1RM in order to increase speed &amp; jump height.&#xA;Light weight training is actually more likely to slow you down as you train type 1 muscle which reacts slower." CreationDate="2014-07-18T07:27:46.037" UserId="1551" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6524" PostId="170" Score="1" Text="Toning isn't a real thing.  Muscles don't slow you down unless you've trained them wrong." CreationDate="2014-07-18T07:29:49.447" UserId="1551" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6525" PostId="161" Score="0" Text="There is some horrible misinformation on this page.  I'm glad this is the top answer." CreationDate="2014-07-18T07:31:36.760" UserId="1551" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6526" PostId="3111" Score="0" Text="It's a decent book, which does cover some rudimentary skills in stick fighting, but it (purposefully or not) leaves large gaps. It's more introductory. The size of the stick is irrelevant when it comes to locking – if you can do it with a hanbo, you can do it with a stick, a rope, a *bo*, a flashlight, a knife, a sword, a magazine, or a bundle of spaghetti. You just have to understand the characteristics of the weapon." CreationDate="2014-07-18T13:59:48.790" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6527" PostId="4203" Score="1" Text="I knew about KFM and how Batman uses it in the Dark Knight trilogy. But I would also wonder what the difference is then between the above and KFM." CreationDate="2014-07-18T21:54:01.587" UserId="1924" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6529" PostId="4194" Score="3" Text="Because weapons are awesome." CreationDate="2014-07-20T19:37:35.827" UserId="1655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6530" PostId="4192" Score="0" Text="So let me get this straight.  You brought a tape measure to a gun fight?" CreationDate="2014-07-20T19:40:21.673" UserId="1655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6531" PostId="4185" Score="0" Text="Please select an answer." CreationDate="2014-07-20T19:42:25.817" UserId="1655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6532" PostId="3161" Score="0" Text="You understand that dojo is a Japanese word, right?  Dojang is the correct term for a Korean gym." CreationDate="2014-07-20T19:44:27.567" UserId="1655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6533" PostId="4197" Score="4" Text="What the ####?  I hope that's not you in that picture. What happens when I strike that sword and break all your teeth?" CreationDate="2014-07-20T19:56:55.430" UserId="1655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6534" PostId="3125" Score="0" Text="I'll do you guys a favor and make a jock strap with a big matted pad for &quot;accidental&quot; protection." CreationDate="2014-07-20T20:01:34.137" UserId="1655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6535" PostId="3135" Score="0" Text="Jujuitsu all the way.  Or you can try wing chun, or even JKD." CreationDate="2014-07-20T20:11:55.603" UserId="1655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6537" PostId="3071" Score="0" Text="I doubt they are going to allow punches to the head. If your opponent is close enough to punch you in the face, your not good at sparring. I have never seen a punch score, so I don't know why the point would be. Plus they would have to regulate gloves a lot better." CreationDate="2014-07-20T20:17:18.557" UserId="1655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6538" PostId="4214" Score="3" Text="And the question?" CreationDate="2014-07-21T00:09:37.410" UserId="1026" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6540" PostId="4210" Score="3" Text="This answer needs a lot of clean up..." CreationDate="2014-07-21T09:43:11.180" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6541" PostId="4209" Score="2" Text="Welcome to the site!  You seem to not be aware that martial arts is a catch all term. Did you mean mixed martial arts? Also, what problem are you trying to solve?  Just a difference between two arts is solved easily using Wikipedia." CreationDate="2014-07-21T09:45:31.393" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6542" PostId="4180" Score="0" Text="Well, about 99% of the time in a hand to hand fight, the first punch the dude will throw will be a haymaker. How predictable. Take a walk through the outskirts of Chicago, LA, Saint Paul, whatever. You'll get plenty of experience. I would recommend carrying a gun though, just in case. You can turn one of those single use cameras into a taser, in case you can't get your hands on a gun. That was a joke. Don't follow that advice." CreationDate="2014-07-20T20:09:02.340" UserId="1655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6543" PostId="3161" Score="0" Text="Not to be rude, but I honestly don't care what the correct word is. I'm going with a very bland and general start for my family. I want them to understand basic concepts. They can hammer out the correct words and phrases once they are old enough (and/or we have enough money) to get them into martial arts that they prefer. Each 'style' has a bajillion phrases, grammatical contexts, language-specific, etc.s that I just don't care about. I want my family to have a good idea of what to do if they feel threatened. That's all I want for starters... the dojo vs dojang we can discuss later." CreationDate="2014-07-21T16:02:02.940" UserId="1189" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6544" PostId="4214" Score="0" Text="I just need help knowing how I'm supposed to dive straight and roll sidewaysish" CreationDate="2014-07-22T01:15:44.630" UserId="1655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6545" PostId="4219" Score="0" Text="I am a proficient roller, (roll on concrete all the time).  The advice in the first part, the whole straight part, was what I needed." CreationDate="2014-07-22T01:17:32.750" UserId="1655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6547" PostId="4221" Score="0" Text="I am a little wary of your use of &quot;combat&quot;. In Aikido, we have plenty of such drills but they are highly structured as they are learning tools and not combat training." CreationDate="2014-07-22T09:48:06.587" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6548" PostId="4214" Score="3" Text="If you are wanting to know how to do really effective dive rolls, check out the parkour tutorials on the subject.  I've done lots of dive rolling in martial arts, but the parkour guys capture a lot of the subtle details that are needed for doing them in all kinds of terrains" CreationDate="2014-07-22T11:43:11.173" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6549" PostId="4214" Score="1" Text="see, http://learnmoreparkour.com/how-to-parkour-rollavoid-hitting-the-hip-and-shoulder/" CreationDate="2014-07-22T11:45:24.930" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6550" PostId="4221" Score="0" Text="I'm holding practices in JKD for a small group of people. What I want to condition my self and drill is handling multiple oponents, e.g. getting used to the situation." CreationDate="2014-07-22T14:18:31.670" UserId="3064" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6551" PostId="4222" Score="0" Text="Can't yet give an one up but thanks for the feedback. Really helpful." CreationDate="2014-07-22T14:22:16.400" UserId="3064" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6552" PostId="4223" Score="0" Text="Hey, that was going to be my answer!... ^_~" CreationDate="2014-07-22T15:11:07.777" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6561" PostId="4226" Score="0" Text="Thanks Tony D. I would for starters choose a fixed set of movements, options with random attackers in sequence with variable rest periods. My motivation is to teach the basics of multiple attacker combat with minimizing risks. I generally think that an all out melee (free form) is for more advanced practitioners (both defenders and attackers) and the group I'm practicing with are generally beginners jus starting with JKD." CreationDate="2014-07-23T14:22:37.537" UserId="3064" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6562" PostId="4226" Score="0" Text="@NikolaStjelja that sounds great... I trust they'll enjoy and learn from it.  Cheers." CreationDate="2014-07-23T15:17:13.950" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6564" PostId="1439" Score="0" Text="Capoeira?????  That is just about the last martial art that I would recommend &quot;for ageing bodies&quot; !  Those capoeria dudes are insane (and cool)!" CreationDate="2014-07-24T03:13:38.977" UserId="1655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6565" PostId="2040" Score="0" Text="Hey, wasn't wing chun ip-man's primary martial art?" CreationDate="2014-07-24T03:14:41.907" UserId="1655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6566" PostId="4208" Score="2" Text="Bullets are thrusting weapons and are far more powerful than a vast majority of slashing weapons..." CreationDate="2014-07-24T08:13:53.170" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6571" PostId="4208" Score="0" Text="Also don't underestimate the blunt force of a stab (or a 'slash').  Maybe that long stick won't do any permanent damage to your lightly armored target, but it *could* knock the wind out of them!" CreationDate="2014-07-24T14:00:20.557" UserId="33" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6572" PostId="1439" Score="0" Text="/r/capoeira begs to differ (several didn't even *start* until their 40s) - http://www.reddit.com/r/capoeira/comments/158kgz/i_am_very_interested_in_capoeira_but_at_my_age_am/ A lot of what is generally practiced (for reasons other than showing off) is only &quot;insane&quot; to those who haven't learned the art, just like how many things in any other martial art are &quot;insane&quot; to a newbie or outsider. Also, Mestre Acordeon is over 70. If the leader(s) of your art are older than your parents, you *really* don't have an excuse in your age." CreationDate="2014-07-24T21:22:41.790" UserId="341" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6573" PostId="1439" Score="0" Text="Good point.  I just meant, that by looking at videos, capoeira seems a bit intense for &quot;ageing bodies&quot;." CreationDate="2014-07-25T01:10:47.493" UserId="1655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6575" PostId="4235" Score="0" Text="+1 if only for mentioning the companion ball (Portal reference) as it's an awesome way to learn forward rolls." CreationDate="2014-07-25T06:45:40.857" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6577" PostId="4235" Score="1" Text="As long as it's not a companion *cube*.  That may... complicate matters." CreationDate="2014-07-25T12:00:26.530" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6578" PostId="4208" Score="0" Text="I invite you to test your theory that a spear is ineffective against a lightly armored foe.  &quot;long stick&quot; is ineffective as a slashing weapon too." CreationDate="2014-07-25T13:07:49.227" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6579" PostId="4239" Score="2" Text="Is there evidence that the name of the Taiji stance is connected to qigong?  What is an ST9 point?" CreationDate="2014-07-25T14:00:58.083" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6580" PostId="4239" Score="0" Text="Hmm, yes. There is, from what I learnt every posture in taiji and bagua are suggesting analogy to martial and qigong application, what there founders thought kinda looked similar.ST9 points is 'dimmak' points slap bang in front of neck, parallel to adam's apple (its there no matter if you are woman). Literally translation is STOMACH 9, no it has got nothing to do with stomach, just name." CreationDate="2014-07-25T14:04:42.217" UserId="3075" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6584" PostId="4208" Score="1" Text="Think &quot;pilum&quot;. Romans invented this pointed thrusting weapon so they could penetrate german shields." CreationDate="2014-07-26T12:48:56.413" UserId="1631" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6585" PostId="4243" Score="2" Text="I guess it is irrelevant with which you start. Quedtions that arise reading one may be answered in the other. You will know when you finished both." CreationDate="2014-07-26T13:00:32.810" UserId="1631" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6590" PostId="4243" Score="0" Text="I have to start with something , right?!!&#xA;Which one do you suggest?" CreationDate="2014-07-27T14:56:02.523" UserId="2027" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6591" PostId="4243" Score="1" Text="As I said, it is irrelevant really. But personally, I'd start with &quot;Tao of JKD&quot; to have the master himself have the first impression on you." CreationDate="2014-07-27T14:58:09.097" UserId="1631" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6594" PostId="4243" Score="2" Text="If you want to learn about Plato, then you read Plato. You only read other people's opinions on Plato once you've actually read The Republic, The Symposium, The Cave, etc. Martial-arts-via-book is no different." CreationDate="2014-07-28T09:19:58.443" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6597" PostId="4248" Score="1" Text="[How To Throw An Uppercut in Muay Thai](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5-YD8OrBRs)" CreationDate="2014-07-28T13:25:51.613" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6601" PostId="4228" Score="0" Text="This was the best answer.  Thank you for writing it!" CreationDate="2014-07-30T08:53:23.597" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6602" PostId="4208" Score="0" Text="@Fildor: Do you have a reference for that?  As far as I know, pila were used in the early Roman Republic well before they had any contact with the Germaic tribes. Now, pila were indeed partly designed to penetrate shields but those were more the standard hoplite ones that were in wide use all over the Mediterranean at the time." CreationDate="2014-07-30T08:58:43.640" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6603" PostId="4208" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion my bad. Just delete the ethnic reference from my comment." CreationDate="2014-07-30T09:18:44.273" UserId="1631" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6604" PostId="4208" Score="0" Text="@Fildor: Okay, no worries.  ^_~" CreationDate="2014-07-30T10:06:06.723" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6605" PostId="4228" Score="0" Text="Thanks!  Sorry it wasn't initially up to what you were looking for." CreationDate="2014-07-30T14:23:42.303" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6606" PostId="4203" Score="0" Text="I've updated the post with this information" CreationDate="2014-07-30T14:25:45.377" UserId="1551" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6608" PostId="589" Score="0" Text="A lot of people here are saying that &quot;Kung Fu&quot; comes from Kalari.  OK, but which branch of &quot;Kung Fu&quot; are you talking about?  There are hundreds.  Kalari MAY have had some influence on Northern Shaolin IF Bodhidharma was a real person, and IF he taught the monks martial arts and not just buddhism/yoga.  Do we seriously think the Chinese didn't have martial arts before Bodhidharma?" CreationDate="2014-07-31T11:39:44.260" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6609" PostId="4252" Score="2" Text="Hi, and welcome to the site! Do you perhaps have any resources that could elaborate on your answer at all?" CreationDate="2014-08-01T14:28:01.033" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6610" PostId="4253" Score="3" Text="Hi, and welcome to the site! Do you perhaps have any resources that could elaborate on your answer at all?" CreationDate="2014-08-01T14:29:51.763" UserId="25" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6611" PostId="4258" Score="0" Text="Are you asking about what to do for the next 3 months, or for the long term?" CreationDate="2014-08-03T05:08:14.847" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6612" PostId="4258" Score="0" Text="Yes.&#xA;I certainly won't want to use that part of my hand for 3 months. If that's all the time it will take, then modifications to what I know would be useful. Hopefully, that's it.&#xA;That said, one of the doctors mentioned that it would be weaker until I'd been using it normally for a while. Best guess right now is two months at the inside, a year at the outside. Updating question with specific timetable after realizing that 'medium future' was kinda vague." CreationDate="2014-08-03T05:36:54.770" UserId="3100" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6613" PostId="4258" Score="0" Text="Can you hold objects?  Might be a good time to play with a weapon art like escrima/kali or a knife art, as long as you're not doing impacts/blocking drills... it'd keep your arm moving, get some strength in your grip and be a useful skill to add on." CreationDate="2014-08-03T08:23:02.363" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6614" PostId="4258" Score="0" Text="Escrima... Kind of hard to avoid impact. Most escrima students eventually have some kind of impact to their hand and fingers. Many broken fingers there. Sinawali drills are a big part of escrima practice, so it's kind of unavoidable in my opinion." CreationDate="2014-08-03T15:14:56.587" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6615" PostId="4258" Score="2" Text="I think you're kinda getting ahead of yourself. 3 months isn't that long a wait...if it heals well during that time, it's quite likely you'll be able to continue what you've been doing, but perhaps with some modification to reduce stress/strain. If it doesn't, then you can re-evaluate you options at that time. In the mean time, you can always work on footwork and/or stances. Footwork is just as important as striking/blocking." CreationDate="2014-08-04T17:56:26.420" UserId="271" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6616" PostId="4258" Score="0" Text="Totally agree with harmlessdragon here." CreationDate="2014-08-04T20:42:18.827" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6617" PostId="3012" Score="0" Text="Butterfly Guard works great for people with short legs.&#xA;Youtube any Marcelo Garcia butterfly guard series and work on it.&#xA;Good Luck!" CreationDate="2014-08-04T16:15:13.620" UserDisplayName="user3102" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6618" PostId="1422" Score="3" Text="This is an excellent answer. The OP shouldn't need to switch arts, he simply needs to adapt what he already does - and this is what was traditionally done. The reality is that there is a high probability that he will **never** need a flying side kick in real life - so while it's good to know how to do one and be able to do it if you really need it, the better solution is for the OP to adapt and refine the other techniques he already knows to accommodate his changing physiology." CreationDate="2014-08-04T22:52:45.833" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6619" PostId="1420" Score="0" Text="OP is concerned about knee joints, not about joints in general. Aikido *can* be safe for knee joints." CreationDate="2014-08-05T10:35:39.710" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6625" PostId="4257" Score="3" Text="&quot;Concussions are always bad&quot; is exactly right. Those who sustain repeated head injuries do not fare well. [Dementia pugilistica  (&quot;boxer's dementia&quot;)](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dementia_pugilistica) is by no means limited to boxers, but there's a reason that clumsy old guys with slurred speech are called &quot;punchy.&quot;" CreationDate="2014-08-05T17:34:43.473" UserId="562" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6626" PostId="4257" Score="4" Text="Concussions cause permanent brain damage.  &quot;recovery&quot; is basically 10 days to several months where it can happen, but it's mostly your brain rewiring around the damage.  This is why concussions &quot;build&quot; upon each other - eventually you get enough damage things can't route around it." CreationDate="2014-08-05T17:49:40.390" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6627" PostId="4264" Score="1" Text="Any evidence to support your claims? *We're looking for long answers that provide some explanation and context. Don't just give a one-line answer; explain why your answer is right, ideally with citations. Answers that don't include explanations may be removed.*" CreationDate="2014-08-06T08:36:50.543" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6628" PostId="4264" Score="0" Text="Why is that true of BJJ and not of any other art? Many arts emphasize technique over strength." CreationDate="2014-08-06T10:16:27.450" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6629" PostId="4233" Score="0" Text="I agree, I remember my starts in judo ... and all we learn was to roll forward. we start at 1 end of the dojo, roll forward till the end ... run back and start over.&#xA;&#xA;was dull ... but well ... I enjoy it." CreationDate="2014-08-06T11:41:18.583" UserId="1526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6631" PostId="4235" Score="0" Text="Your idea in learning to fall was how we did it at start. we also played a challenge game like this : put 1 ball (or yourself, or 1 small kid on his knees, head on the ground, hand over his head ), have kids roll over it/him. if they touch the ball/kid, they are out. when everyone is done, put a 2nd ball/kid next to it. have the surviver roll over, etc." CreationDate="2014-08-06T11:44:37.187" UserId="1526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6634" PostId="4264" Score="1" Text="@Mark C. Wallace, I didn't state that BJJ is the only art that emphasizes technique over strength. I suppose that the vast majority of martial arts, if not every single one, follow that same idea. The OP was looking for something that doesn't heavily involve flying techniques, has practical &quot;street&quot; applications, and includes grappling and striking. BJJ meets all of these requirements (although I did mention that some schools don't cover striking, as it is outside of a purely competition-based curriculum)." CreationDate="2014-08-06T15:49:49.573" UserId="3086" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6635" PostId="4264" Score="0" Text="@gorilly: can you edit your answer with the evidence you provide in the comment.  Comments are ephemeral and will be deleted. Although, only the age division is evidence, the rest is anecdotal which **is not** evidence." CreationDate="2014-08-06T15:58:46.457" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6637" PostId="4266" Score="0" Text="-1 as this is anecdotal evidence." CreationDate="2014-08-07T06:52:35.990" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6638" PostId="4267" Score="0" Text="I hope this does not break the asking for medical advise as I am not asking for advise, I am asking for medical research. However, this might break the &quot;asking for reference material&quot; which tends to be frowned upon.  It works well as a [skeptic](http://skeptics.stackexchange.com) question. Not sure if it fits here..." CreationDate="2014-08-07T08:57:01.570" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6639" PostId="322" Score="2" Text="And it will neglect all the &quot;independent&quot;, unaffiliated, etc.  I begin to wonder if those outnumber the &quot;affiliated&quot; schools." CreationDate="2014-08-07T10:39:02.553" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6640" PostId="321" Score="0" Text="How would that information be useful?  And wouldn't the answer be intrinsically localized? (not arguing, just exploring)" CreationDate="2014-08-07T10:41:35.090" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6641" PostId="321" Score="0" Text="@MarkC.Wallace I'm interested in how popular Aikido styles are world-wide, so IMHO the answer isn't localized. It now seems likely that these numbers do not exist, so I'll settle for rough estimates or data on specific countries/regions, but I agree that will make the question (more) localised.  My rationale for asking is that it can be a (minor) factor in choosing a particular style." CreationDate="2014-08-07T10:56:54.243" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6642" PostId="4267" Score="2" Text="You're asking for medical data, not advice.  Big difference.  The difference is between asking &quot;what is &lt;X&gt;&quot; and &quot;should I &lt;X&gt;&quot;" CreationDate="2014-08-07T12:16:06.013" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6643" PostId="4267" Score="0" Text="@TheWudangKid: Indeed.  I was pretty sure I would be on the right side of that but as this site is still in beta, everyone could have decided that any form of medical question is off topic. I am glad that this is not the case." CreationDate="2014-08-07T12:25:28.400" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6644" PostId="4267" Score="2" Text="Have you considered asking a medical professional?" CreationDate="2014-08-07T14:04:43.370" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6645" PostId="4267" Score="0" Text="@JuannStrauss: Yes, but so far have not got around it. Work is getting in the way of fun!" CreationDate="2014-08-07T14:34:25.363" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6646" PostId="4267" Score="0" Text="I don't want to get a downvote on my answer, so I'll just comment thus: yes, joint locks are bad for kids. Largely for the same reason you don't want kids under 16 to get into hardcore breaking techniques." CreationDate="2014-08-07T15:53:36.400" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6647" PostId="239" Score="1" Text="I came unto this discussion late, but your point #1 is, in essence, the reason for practice for which kata/poomse/forms extend! Great point!" CreationDate="2014-08-07T17:05:16.913" UserId="1513" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6648" PostId="4267" Score="1" Text="@JuannStrauss: Yeah but **WHY!!!**. Curious mind want to know! ^_~" CreationDate="2014-08-08T07:01:09.837" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6649" PostId="4270" Score="1" Text="I'm not completely sold on the first point you bring up, as there are ways to train reaction time without the need for multiple attackers, imo. I do agree with your second point though, and what you bring up seems to be a common element among different martial arts." CreationDate="2014-08-08T12:15:48.857" UserId="271" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6650" PostId="4270" Score="0" Text="There's going to be overlap in the skill sets that various martial arts drills train.  Even if there is overlap, variety helps keep training interesting, which keeps you training.  In the case of the first drill I mentioned, I don't know any better way to teach turning to face an attacker and quickly reacting.  You may be able to increase reaction time in other ways without doing that particular drill, but nothing is as good as training to react *in that specific way* as that drill is." CreationDate="2014-08-08T12:34:59.140" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6652" PostId="4268" Score="3" Text="Well, OP asked for medical science, so I gave it to him.  Even then this is a very watered down version. I can break it down in more layman's terms, but I've found most people tend to think you're &quot;making things up&quot; when you simplify past a point, even if it's true as far as function goes." CreationDate="2014-08-08T20:05:34.640" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6653" PostId="4268" Score="0" Text="As the OP, I think there could me more to this but as it stands, it's a great answer.  Many thanks!" CreationDate="2014-08-09T14:36:40.757" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6654" PostId="4268" Score="0" Text="My training is in kinesiology &amp; physical therapy, so I have a baseline level of the science behind it, but not specific to children.  If you do find deeper science sources, do you think you could link it back in this question?  I'd be happy to see more myself." CreationDate="2014-08-09T16:04:25.427" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6656" PostId="4271" Score="0" Text="Interesting point on attackers learning to take advantage of moments of weakness, among other 'skills'" CreationDate="2014-08-11T19:51:30.730" UserId="271" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6657" PostId="4273" Score="0" Text="upvote for the relation to competition out-of-bounds" CreationDate="2014-08-11T19:54:29.083" UserId="271" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6658" PostId="4272" Score="0" Text="hmm. your post got me wondering how &quot;team fights&quot; would look... i.e. 2v2, 3v3, and if such would be possible for competition format." CreationDate="2014-08-11T19:58:43.803" UserId="271" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6659" PostId="4271" Score="0" Text="As it stands, I think your answer is the most complete, so I've marked it as the correct one. Thanks for contributing." CreationDate="2014-08-11T20:02:29.547" UserId="271" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6660" PostId="4272" Score="1" Text="@harmlessdragon: my old school used to practice 2v2, 3v3 - sometimes more - not for competition but just in-class sparring... doing it more competitively is again a bit dangerous - one thing with multi-opponent sparring is that people get hit from all sorts of angles and in places they'd normally protect better given a single opponent in a known position, with less chance that they're vaguely prepared for it, and often in the middle of their own movement or attack, so injuries happen very easily.  Still, it's more credible than 1-vs-many competitions." CreationDate="2014-08-12T02:41:52.417" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6661" PostId="4272" Score="0" Text="Yes, I agree that any combination more than 1v1 would be difficult in a competition format. If it ever were to happen, it would have to be heavily regulated.  Though...I suppose it's a situation the military deals with. They just use different weapons. But some of the strategies involved would probably be similar. I was just thinking out loud. I don't really see such a competition format arising because it would be difficult to regulate. Like any competition where safety is concerned, I think that would be addressed by certain restrictions. Though it may end up less a fight and more a 'game'." CreationDate="2014-08-12T14:21:43.193" UserId="271" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6664" PostId="4275" Score="1" Text="I'm not sure this fits within the guidelines in [ask]; I don't know how you define &quot;most powerful&quot;, or why &quot;on tape&quot;?" CreationDate="2014-08-13T11:05:16.570" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6665" PostId="4275" Score="0" Text="I've remember seeing a promotionnal video back in the days about mike tyson and I remember it saying that his punch were registered to have the same impact as a horse's kick ...&#xA;&#xA;go no idea if it was true or not. According to wikipedia, he was rated 16 in the &quot;strongest puncher in history&quot; ... so you can probably go look for who was #1 and it'll give you a cue about what look for." CreationDate="2014-08-13T11:26:19.057" UserId="1526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6666" PostId="4275" Score="1" Text="Not really sure why this question is receiving downvotes, other than that it is so brief.  I was tempted to downvote myself, but then I read it again.  I think this question could definitely be revised to include what the asker means by &quot;powerful&quot;.  Otherwise, we can reasonably assume most psi.  Deformation of tissue is too difficult to measure." CreationDate="2014-08-13T15:34:43.250" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6668" PostId="4275" Score="0" Text="I massively edited your question. Hopefully, it's still what you want to know but in a better format." CreationDate="2014-08-13T16:29:19.527" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6670" PostId="4275" Score="7" Text="probably some guys who's parachute malfunctioned :)" CreationDate="2014-08-13T23:40:48.080" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6671" PostId="4275" Score="0" Text="@KeithNicholas That doesn't exactly count lol" CreationDate="2014-08-14T00:14:34.333" UserId="2034" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6672" PostId="4277" Score="1" Text="Do you mean a martial art that is practiced today just like it was practiced when it was invented? Martial arts do change greatly over time. I guess what you really want to know is if there's a lineage that can be traced back in an unbroken line, with no gaps in its history. So, person A taught person B, and person B taught person C, and so on. And with evidence confirming each person's authenticity. That's a tall order. Many claim multi-hundred-year old lineage lines, but they often don't show the evidence they claim to have." CreationDate="2014-08-14T02:28:25.773" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6673" PostId="4277" Score="4" Text="Now, if you're just talking about martial arts that may no longer exist and don't have any lineage to look at, history mentions many of them. The gladiators of ancient Greece, for example. There are statues and pictures showing gladiators in various martial arts poses that we would recognize today. Military arts, also, go back thousands of years BC. But again, kind of hard drawing a line from them to current day martial arts." CreationDate="2014-08-14T02:31:12.480" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6674" PostId="4276" Score="1" Text="I don't see why I should get a downvote. My answer references sources and it fulfills all the criteria set out in the question." CreationDate="2014-08-14T07:04:38.923" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6675" PostId="4268" Score="0" Text="@Bankuei: I have asked several members of the medical profession.  I am waiting results. Clearly, as soon as I have something, I will post it here and on skeptic." CreationDate="2014-08-14T11:00:00.470" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6677" PostId="4276" Score="1" Text="Because Ivan Drago is a fictional character in a movie, and you have no clue whether the numbers on the puncho-meter-a-tron are actual or movie magic. And, given that a fight science segment on martial arts kicks only produced one kick that outperformed the punch, I would very much doubt the movie figures. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcAfClb-f4g" CreationDate="2014-08-14T14:38:07.713" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6678" PostId="4276" Score="0" Text="The [original] question was which punch captured on film was the hardest. I think my answer was legit given the parameters." CreationDate="2014-08-14T14:42:10.453" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6679" PostId="4276" Score="0" Text="Yeah, sorry.  I tried to make this into a better question as it was pretty poor to start off with.  Maybe a mistake..." CreationDate="2014-08-14T14:52:19.390" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6680" PostId="4276" Score="0" Text="Although I was being sarcastic, so -2 points is probably fair, TBH." CreationDate="2014-08-14T15:06:27.047" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6682" PostId="4197" Score="4" Text="Please tell me you are wearing underwear..." CreationDate="2014-08-14T17:28:17.613" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6683" PostId="4257" Score="1" Text="@Bankuei - Excellent point. Case in point, the efforts in hockey and football to mitigate head contact, and the recent class action lawsuit around head injuries in football and concussions. Autopsies of many athletes who have multiple head impacts show CTE in the brain (Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy). http://grantland.com/features/neuropathologist-dr-ann-mckee-accused-killing-football-be-sport-only-hope/" CreationDate="2014-08-14T17:32:41.527" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6684" PostId="4278" Score="1" Text="Plato himself was a wrestler. His name means &quot;broad&quot;/&quot;flat&quot; and was given to him by a gymnastic coach, according to [Diogenes](http://plato-dialogues.org/faq/faq005.htm). His real name was Aristocles." CreationDate="2014-08-14T17:55:48.490" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6685" PostId="4282" Score="6" Text="Avoid any school where you see a 10 year old black belt.  People have differences of opinion on the matter, but for me this is a hard line: once you give someone a black belt you're saying to the world &quot;this person represents my school/my art&quot;.  People should ask themselves if a 10 year old is capable of representing a school.  Because what that 10 year old does/can do is what the world is going to think a black belt does/can do.  Sorry for the rant, folks" CreationDate="2014-08-14T18:19:20.983" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6686" PostId="4282" Score="1" Text="how many clubs have you gone and tried?  Sometimes its not obvious how bad one place is until you see how good something else is" CreationDate="2014-08-14T21:43:51.157" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6687" PostId="4282" Score="0" Text="@KeithNicholas I've only gone to two schools. This dojo feels unprofessional, because my old organization and school had very high standards for black belts. We were also educated on the historical side of Karate." CreationDate="2014-08-14T22:28:52.397" UserId="2034" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6688" PostId="4282" Score="5" Text="then trust your instincts, find somewhere else" CreationDate="2014-08-14T22:33:26.240" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6689" PostId="4276" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion - Not at all. 16 more upvotes and a couple down on the OP and I get the Reversal badge. Shiny. :)" CreationDate="2014-08-14T22:44:50.473" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6693" PostId="4284" Score="0" Text="I can't comment on all the styles, but Wu style has smaller movements.  Dragon Tiger, as taught by Bruce Frantzis, is a good practice for health which you can find on [Energy Arts](http://www.energyarts.com/).  He also has Longevity Breathing class that is a good basis for any style and for meditation. Whatever style you choose, make sure that your instructor focuses on the movement of energy, not just the physical movements. It is a lifelong practice - enjoy." CreationDate="2014-08-14T19:28:37.127" UserDisplayName="BackInShapeBuddy" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6694" PostId="4284" Score="0" Text="Chang style Tai Chi is popular amongst Shuai Jiao practitioners also." CreationDate="2014-08-15T03:27:43.123" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6695" PostId="4284" Score="0" Text="Oh, and Hao style is usually called &quot;Wu (Hao)&quot; Style, to differentiate it from the more popular Wu style." CreationDate="2014-08-15T03:28:24.177" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6696" PostId="2999" Score="3" Text="How in the seven hells are you going to generate momentum when you're floating in space? Will you fart?" CreationDate="2014-08-15T06:58:31.010" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6697" PostId="4284" Score="1" Text="It depends on what you mean by &quot;health&quot;... Doing exercise safely will improve your health. However, [Edzard Ernst](http://edzardernst.com/about/edzard-ernst/) has a post called [Tai chi is based on strange concepts but is it helpful](http://edzardernst.com/2013/06/tai-chi-is-based-on-strange-concepts-but-is-it-helpful/)? that contains evidence medicine data on some tai chi health benefits claims. *This is not an answer as it does not answer your question, just a comment on the &quot;health&quot; aspect.*" CreationDate="2014-08-15T09:05:51.727" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6699" PostId="4279" Score="0" Text="There's really not an answer to this question, or if there is one, we would have to talk about what we mean by martial arts.  If we mean a systemized method of combat, well people have been doing that probably for as long as people have been fighting. ::shrug:: Still an interesting question." CreationDate="2014-08-15T12:00:52.977" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6700" PostId="4279" Score="0" Text="Indeed but your answer is much more complete than mine and does answer all the aspects of the question." CreationDate="2014-08-15T12:22:19.420" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6701" PostId="4277" Score="0" Text="Lots of overlap with [this question](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/191/347)." CreationDate="2014-08-17T20:31:03.603" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6702" PostId="4275" Score="0" Text="PSI is not a measurement of force.  Its a force over an area.  Big difference.  For example, a woman wearing high heals creates more PSI than a adult male elephant.  Or that monk that trows needles through panes of glass, Creates more pressure with that needle that you can imagine. so please correct yourself on that part." CreationDate="2014-08-18T05:17:40.683" UserId="1655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6703" PostId="4280" Score="0" Text="IKR, It wasn't fair to put a front kick against a roundhouse.  kinda an unfair contest, if you will..." CreationDate="2014-08-18T05:18:46.350" UserId="1655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6704" PostId="4258" Score="0" Text="TKD all the way, brother!" CreationDate="2014-08-18T05:21:47.737" UserId="1655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6705" PostId="756" Score="0" Text="Ya never know.  My instructor was amazing at pointing out these little things that made it so much better.  He would adjust my posture or some little footwork bug, and that would be enough." CreationDate="2014-08-18T05:25:24.403" UserId="1655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6706" PostId="4280" Score="0" Text="@coltonon:&#xA;To be fair, they asked each of the practitioners to &quot;use their most powerful technique&quot;. But yeah, they ought to have either found one technique to be done by all of them or tested multiple techniques to find the one that generates the most force." CreationDate="2014-08-18T18:40:35.223" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6707" PostId="788" Score="0" Text="Interesting answer, though I think some of the terms need to be cleared up.  I think you are using the definition of work for power, and I don't think surface tension is the phrase you want." CreationDate="2014-08-18T18:56:42.800" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6709" PostId="4291" Score="0" Text="+1 Kali sticks make sense to me (though personally I'm an unarmed kind of guy)... someone trained can use them quite effectively, can even things up against a lot of weapons someone might bring/find, but I think most people who saw them lying around wouldn't even consider using them as a weapon and if they tried wouldn't know how to use them very well - all ideal." CreationDate="2014-08-19T12:16:47.890" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6713" PostId="4296" Score="0" Text="I was primarily thinking of martial arts that have weapons and no weapons as part of their training, and not martial arts with its sole focus on weapons. I'll clarify that in my post." CreationDate="2014-08-19T18:49:18.003" UserId="271" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6714" PostId="4296" Score="0" Text="I actually don't think it changes my answer much.  If the art in question deliberately ties in the armed and unarmed techniques together (Eskrima/Kali does this) then the crossovers will be obvious and explicitly taught.  Otherwise, training with weapons is cross-training (even if under the same umbrella of style) with all the benefits of cross-training but probably not overly much else." CreationDate="2014-08-19T18:58:04.850" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6715" PostId="4291" Score="0" Text="I really appreciate this thoughtful answer and agree entirely that a weapon is no substitute for unarmed training. That said, both of you expressed the benefit of kali sticks being unassuming, but I'm wondering if anyone has considered the value of determent. Pictures of folks protecting their homes and stores with guns is part of what has me thinking about this in the first place. Isn't there value in having something that you can point at someone and say &quot;Don't try it!&quot; and avoiding the fight in the first place?" CreationDate="2014-08-19T20:12:48.423" UserId="3105" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6716" PostId="4292" Score="0" Text="Getting educated is good advice. That said, your argument kind of circled back around to imply (rightly I think) that any time you attack another person, there could be serious legal consequences and there's no much to do about that, weapons or not. If you're protecting yourself or your family, you just have to do your best and hope for the best.&#xA;&#xA;Also, our school does teach practical combat weapon techniques meant for real-world usage. I'd also say that equating the danger of having a gun in the house with that of having a sword, spear, or staff is a bit absurd." CreationDate="2014-08-19T20:35:06.313" UserId="3105" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6717" PostId="4285" Score="1" Text="Generally speaking a verd good and well balanced answer. I specially like the disclaimer at the end. It all comes down to the particular teacher. I do like to point out though that, like my teacher often likes to say, there is no &quot;martial taiji&quot; or &quot;health taiji&quot; -- there is just one taijiquan and proper training of all disciplines of the art will gain you both martial and civil benefits..." CreationDate="2014-08-19T21:16:55.103" UserId="424" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6718" PostId="4285" Score="1" Text="It certainly does come down to the particular teacher. There's a Chen style teacher in one of the cities I lived in once who was from China. I learned that he was actually a businessman in China and had only a month or two of training in Chen style and nothing else. He learned mostly through video tape. But people flocked to him, because 1) he's Chinese, and 2) it's Chen style. In the same town are many much better Yang, Wu, and Sun style teachers who happen to be Caucasian. In other words, don't fall for hype and appearances. Ask around about who knows what." CreationDate="2014-08-19T21:53:15.377" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6719" PostId="4295" Score="2" Text="Cool factor. Nuff said" CreationDate="2014-08-20T03:51:37.643" UserId="3134" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6720" PostId="4292" Score="0" Text="@grovberg: Sure, a sword is safer than a gun but it is still not a safe thing to have. I made a note of guns since the OP mention them in his question and guns can be considered martial art weapons." CreationDate="2014-08-20T08:44:58.583" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6721" PostId="4301" Score="3" Text="I'd seriously suggest moving" CreationDate="2014-08-20T09:31:09.137" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6722" PostId="4301" Score="0" Text="moving ? means?" CreationDate="2014-08-20T09:31:59.403" UserId="3135" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6723" PostId="4302" Score="0" Text="Awesome, thank you for your precious answer. I'll try to find out what will I can do." CreationDate="2014-08-20T09:48:39.677" UserId="3135" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6724" PostId="4301" Score="0" Text="BY moving Keith means you should find a house somewhere else." CreationDate="2014-08-20T09:54:04.650" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6725" PostId="4301" Score="0" Text="okay, i got it. somewhere else where i can be fit in practice?" CreationDate="2014-08-20T09:55:54.170" UserId="3135" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6726" PostId="4301" Score="5" Text="Maybe somewhere where you won't be in such danger.  If the only reason you want to learn martial arts is to defend yourself, maybe you could solve the problem by avoiding it.  I say this with the full realization that you may not *be able* to move because of your situation, but I still recommend it if at all possible." CreationDate="2014-08-20T11:18:51.413" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6728" PostId="4291" Score="0" Text="Just gotta say there exists a strong potential for blood if you hit with force." CreationDate="2014-08-20T12:15:05.737" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6729" PostId="4290" Score="3" Text="Spear is absolutely the wrong way to go.  Too long for use in tight spaces of a home, unless you live in a mansion or a castle.  Why not try maneuvering your spear where you think you might need to defend your home?  You'll see what I mean.  Others here are suggesting Kali sticks.  I second that.  They're more maneuverable than a baseball bat, and have more utility, but do not strike as hard.  I will say, though, if I hear a noise in the night, I reach for my .45" CreationDate="2014-08-20T12:28:54.073" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6730" PostId="4303" Score="1" Text="Interesting choice.  But it is worth noting that a weapon like this is potentially lethal and outside the movies getting a high probability of knockout without a high probability of killing/long-term-injury is very hard.  And what you will get arrested for is a bit more nuanced than that.  I am not an expert and join @sardathrion in recommending consulting an experienced attorney, but it is possible to be justified in stabbing someone and possible to get arrested for hitting someone with a Sap." CreationDate="2014-08-20T15:44:15.643" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6731" PostId="4303" Score="0" Text="If you're very worried about serious injury, I recommend lead shavings instead of solid pieces. It gives a concussion without the threat of visible injury." CreationDate="2014-08-20T15:56:30.427" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6732" PostId="4291" Score="2" Text="@grovberg: it's definitely played out that way sometimes, in the end it's all elusive statistics with many factors.   Two of those: even untrained people may intuitively perceive deterrent value in a trained stance/guard, especially with sticks, and as long as they're far enough away that they think they have the option to leave they're less likely to panic and shoot you if *they* have a gun." CreationDate="2014-08-20T16:56:20.680" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6733" PostId="4303" Score="1" Text="I like saps as weapons. They're small, easily carried, easily concealed, effective, and generally non-lethal. But they're not generally recognized as &quot;traditional martial arts weapons,&quot; which is what this question is mainly about. They're also very close-quarters weapons, lacking the stand-off benefits of a stick-like weapon. But my biggest concern is legality. They seem to be covered by a mishmash of irregular local laws that often single out weapons like saps, brass knuckles, and nunchaku for special opprobrium or prohibition." CreationDate="2014-08-20T23:15:23.697" UserId="562" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6734" PostId="4301" Score="0" Text="yeah, a place where you feel safe." CreationDate="2014-08-21T01:01:30.573" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6735" PostId="4305" Score="0" Text="+1 for running/sprinting. It really is the most basic and effective form of self defence." CreationDate="2014-08-21T06:00:21.733" UserId="30" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6736" PostId="4305" Score="0" Text="hahaha :) yeah of-course." CreationDate="2014-08-21T07:41:30.633" UserId="3135" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6738" PostId="4301" Score="0" Text="Cool, thanks for duplicates and making negatives. ;)" CreationDate="2014-08-21T08:20:18.157" UserId="3135" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6739" PostId="4303" Score="2" Text="Hide your small change in a sock ;)" CreationDate="2014-08-21T11:21:25.677" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6741" PostId="4307" Score="0" Text="Well I checked and there's a &quot;injury&quot; tag which suggests this type of question has its place here. If my question is off topic then why this one isn't? http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/761/can-i-practice-any-of-the-martial-arts-after-a-hernia-surgery?rq=1" CreationDate="2014-08-21T12:45:47.613" UserId="3138" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6742" PostId="4294" Score="0" Text="Here it is : https://publicintelligence.net/ufouo-u-s-marine-corps-martial-arts-program-mcmap-manual/" CreationDate="2014-08-21T12:59:28.377" UserId="3064" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6743" PostId="4307" Score="3" Text="Your question is too broad and too medically focused in its current state. As mentioned [here](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/285/70) we give training advice, not medical advice. For example your question would be better if it asked how to avoid aggravating that specific injury while training in your specific art. *Treatment* and *what-might-happen* are both off topic." CreationDate="2014-08-21T13:05:19.997" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6744" PostId="4294" Score="1" Text="I edited your question to add the link." CreationDate="2014-08-21T13:18:26.667" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6745" PostId="4307" Score="0" Text="Good point about the tag.  The wiki is empty for it, so I [asked a question on meta](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/354/82) about what it should be used for.  Good catch! Thank you!" CreationDate="2014-08-21T13:31:32.847" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6746" PostId="4307" Score="0" Text="Thanks, I edited the question based on slugster's comment." CreationDate="2014-08-21T15:33:45.690" UserId="3138" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6748" PostId="4307" Score="2" Text="Like it or not, sometimes medicine and training intersect.  MA is, to a degree, an interdisciplinary study.  Just as martial artists can be clueless about how to advise someone on medical topics, persons with medical degrees are often wrong about what is safe in training.  I personally know people who have been told they should never train martial arts again because of a torn meniscus.  Not trying to grind an axe here, just trying to say this kind of question shouldn't be dismissed out of hand." CreationDate="2014-08-21T16:11:25.470" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6749" PostId="2116" Score="0" Text="-1 for &quot;You won't learn that from a martial arts instructor either. Not in a way that works.&quot; and &quot;qualified instructor; a judoka, a wrestler, a BJJ high blue/purple, then you can have a good class&quot; - clear and absurd bias." CreationDate="2014-08-22T12:00:29.767" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6750" PostId="4316" Score="0" Text="I really wish people would follow that advice, myself included... ^_~" CreationDate="2014-08-24T10:55:19.723" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6751" PostId="4316" Score="1" Text="You can lead a passionate person to a bed, but you can't make 'em rest! :)" CreationDate="2014-08-24T12:40:49.013" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6752" PostId="4315" Score="1" Text="have you considered a wrestling coach instead of &quot;grappling instructor&quot;.  Your local high school or college might have a wrestling team.  The coach *might* be willing to work with you, or maybe an experienced student would.  A lot of MMA champs are wrestlers." CreationDate="2014-08-25T13:38:00.013" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6753" PostId="4318" Score="1" Text="Welcome to the site. You have two questions here.  It might be better to break your question two." CreationDate="2014-08-26T09:34:08.623" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6754" PostId="4319" Score="0" Text="My parents have been in the room for all of my training sessions and the owner of the gym space the classes run in is also female, so I'm not the only female in the room, just the only one on the mat. There are also a couple of female regulars, but they usually train on different nights to me so far.&#xA;&#xA;My friends seem to think I'm nuts for wanting to roll around on the floor with people trying to choke me. My brother is interested and might come join the fun, but he's also rather huge by comparison. Oh well!" CreationDate="2014-08-26T09:49:34.443" UserId="3147" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6757" PostId="4318" Score="0" Text="Splendid question and I really like the way you phrased it. Alas, this isn't an art I practice, so I can't offer any useful advice." CreationDate="2014-08-26T12:04:08.833" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6759" PostId="4319" Score="0" Text="+1 The sibling / friend idea was going to be my answer." CreationDate="2014-08-26T13:16:12.650" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6767" PostId="4323" Score="1" Text="ok, I will do that" CreationDate="2014-08-27T11:45:38.443" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6768" PostId="4323" Score="1" Text="Ahh! Blogs! Read allll the blogs! :D Thanks for that. It's probably worth noting that Clearbelt doesn't have a post this year so that's probably not active anymore, but it has tons of links to other blogs, so that made me a happy camper!" CreationDate="2014-08-27T12:15:59.347" UserId="3147" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6769" PostId="4320" Score="1" Text="I wouldn't say &quot;lots&quot; of them have gender issues with me. There's the one guy who was polite and said hi but was very firm that he won't be rolling / drilling with me at all, and a couple of other guys who I would guess are about 16 that might well be terrified of girls. All good. Generally I haven't noticed anyone who seems actively hostile or anything and most everyone seems pretty nice!" CreationDate="2014-08-27T12:18:50.640" UserId="3147" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6771" PostId="4323" Score="1" Text="I have edited the format of your post. Hope this works for you. Oh, and +1 ^_~" CreationDate="2014-08-27T12:23:43.673" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6772" PostId="4319" Score="2" Text="By request I've cleaned out some comments as the answer has been edited to remove the contested bullet point (which wasn't pivotal to the answer anyway)." CreationDate="2014-08-27T13:01:28.080" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6773" PostId="2256" Score="2" Text="Two years and much more competitive experience later, I can see that you're absolutely right :)   Of course, strength can help when the technique isn't quite right (let's be honest, how many people get their technique perfect every time!!?)... but your point stands." CreationDate="2014-08-28T10:27:11.277" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6774" PostId="4325" Score="4" Text="The answer will inherently be ephemeral. Tomorrow (and every day after that) someone will publish a karate book.  And the best book for learning Tang Su Do might not be the best book for learning Isshinryu.  The best book for a beginner will not be the best book for someone who has studied three other related arts.  The best book for a 98lb 78 year old marathon runner with arthritis won't be the best book for a 210lb weightlifter with a history of ACL tears." CreationDate="2014-08-28T11:26:42.610" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6775" PostId="4318" Score="0" Text="At some point you may want to look around and see if you can find another club that is more welcoming. That isn't always an easy option, but I think we need to recognize that fundamentally this isn't _your_ problem; your training partners aren't behaving in a mature fashion." CreationDate="2014-08-28T11:31:33.740" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6776" PostId="4320" Score="0" Text="There is also the danger of injury due to vast strenght difference. if the guy isnt 100% confident he'll be able to do his techniques without controling the amount of strenght he puts into it, its better he dont practice with you at all , instead of hurting you. (happens to me when I was younger, around 19, I badly hurt a female judoka I was sparring with because I didnt realize I was getting much stronger.)" CreationDate="2014-08-28T11:46:07.397" UserId="1526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6777" PostId="4325" Score="0" Text="Voted to close as being opinion based. Could also be closed as too broad." CreationDate="2014-08-28T14:43:01.553" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6778" PostId="4325" Score="4" Text="As written, the question is both opinion based and too broad, but I suspect it could be refined to be better if the asker narrows down exactly what he is looking for.  There was a meta discussion related to this here:  http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/75/book-recommendation-wiki" CreationDate="2014-08-28T21:11:28.470" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6779" PostId="4328" Score="1" Text="I feel like this largely replicates the answers above recommending stickwork since there are so many potential improvised weapons around the house that use that technique." CreationDate="2014-08-29T12:46:24.677" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6781" PostId="2761" Score="0" Text="@user1688, what are orange and green belts? I'm fairly sure it usually goes white, blue, purple, brown, black." CreationDate="2014-08-30T18:39:04.040" UserId="3160" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6785" PostId="4331" Score="4" Text="This question appears to be off-topic because it is about *what if*. These questions generally cannot be answered objectively. Now, there might be ways to salvage this question if you were asking for either research or examples of it happening since then." CreationDate="2014-09-02T06:48:49.527" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6788" PostId="4331" Score="0" Text="I was worried that my original phrasing might still be too subjective. Thanks for the help and recommendations on how to improve this to better follow the expected format." CreationDate="2014-09-03T11:26:30.903" UserId="3165" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6791" PostId="4331" Score="0" Text="This question appears to be off-topic because it is about mouthguard technology" CreationDate="2014-09-04T21:40:28.203" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6792" PostId="4292" Score="0" Text="What lots of people forget: You already have &quot;kind-of-&quot; swords at your home. The big Chef Kitchen Knife makes a great &quot;Sax&quot;. The only problem is to reach it before the intruder reaches you. Therefore I second the aspect of weaponless defense (and always keep legal issues in mind, I'd give +2 for that if I could)." CreationDate="2014-09-06T08:07:36.343" UserId="1631" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6799" PostId="4335" Score="0" Text="You are quite correct in this I feel. I've done the class for a year now, and from the things the teacher talks about, there's no right or wrong way. Now to master intention :-)" CreationDate="2014-09-08T07:37:34.520" UserId="293" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6802" PostId="4336" Score="1" Text="Thanks for the reply, I have been mixing up my stretching routine , leg raises with weights, holding side kicks up for 10 to 15 secs, but I'll also try the gym bench streach as well,&#xA;. Appreciate the advise." CreationDate="2014-09-08T09:00:34.657" UserDisplayName="user3169" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6803" PostId="4325" Score="0" Text="The best &quot;book&quot; for learning any martial art is the official syllabus of that style." CreationDate="2014-09-09T15:31:18.983" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6805" PostId="3135" Score="2" Text="The [ask] is pretty clear that &quot;What martial arts system is &quot;best&quot; or if art A is better than art B (not constructive)&quot; is out of scope.  &quot;best&quot; depends on the assumptions you make about the environment, the opponents skill, motivation and characteristics, weapons, the presence of innocents, and a host of other factors.  Practice the one you enjoy the most." CreationDate="2014-09-12T15:44:16.877" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6806" PostId="4359" Score="2" Text="The punch to the nose doesn't cause the knockout directly (By that I mean there isn't any thing special about the nose). What causes unconsciousness is the brain slamming into the interior of the skull, and/or shearing force in the brainstem." CreationDate="2014-09-15T14:32:20.930" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6807" PostId="4362" Score="2" Text="Even the best non-grappling fighters tend to get screwed up by grappling. And it's because they simply don't recognize the situation and therefore don't have any understanding of what to do in it. It's all how you train, not the style. If you want to prevent someone from grappling you, taking you to the ground, etc., then you have to be comfortable with that situation. You get comfortable with it by specifically training in it. Simply saying &quot;step back and control the distance&quot; isn't enough. Reality doesn't often work out nicely like you want it to. You will get caught. Then what?" CreationDate="2014-09-16T03:59:49.787" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6813" PostId="4362" Score="2" Text="If grappling is so bad, why wouldn't you train it so you're not completely helpless when your &quot;just step back&quot; approach fails, as any technique inevitably does?" CreationDate="2014-09-16T13:40:02.643" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6815" PostId="4367" Score="1" Text="You could practice some sort of footwork while sweeping. Use the broom/leaves as resistance training. I could write a little more but it feels like it would be a very short answer..." CreationDate="2014-09-18T06:34:52.770" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6816" PostId="2881" Score="2" Text="&quot;ITF is the original style of taekwondo.&quot; - taekwondo predates the ITF/WTF divide, had no &quot;sine wave&quot; until the 1980s, and there are many other subtle and not-so-subtle changes made in ITF and almost every other school." CreationDate="2014-09-18T13:11:48.683" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6817" PostId="2860" Score="1" Text="Taekwondo has no connection to taekkyeon - that was all a lie so Choi could claim it wasn't purely bastardised karate.  You might want to read &quot;A Killing Art&quot; - http://www.akillingart.com/" CreationDate="2014-09-18T13:14:50.827" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6818" PostId="62" Score="0" Text="&quot;side kick with the heel vs the blade of the foot&quot; - the difference in ITF is in the direction of hip rotation, not merely cosmetic." CreationDate="2014-09-18T13:16:59.343" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6820" PostId="9" Score="0" Text="Re: The comment about heavier weights, training yourself to punch straight with a significant amount of weight on your arm may hurt your ability to punch straight without the weights. A better method would be to resistance train with a partner who can apply a *live* resistance." CreationDate="2014-09-18T15:40:48.977" UserId="3196" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6821" PostId="4354" Score="0" Text="Thank you all for clearing that up.  I can only pick one answer unfortunately." CreationDate="2014-09-18T16:41:47.350" UserId="1973" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6823" PostId="4370" Score="4" Text="Maybe you could elaborate on how you throw strikes so that they have the maximum effect on the maximum amount of people?" CreationDate="2014-09-21T02:11:36.027" UserId="3147" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6824" PostId="4372" Score="1" Text="-1, this does not answer the question instead it sings (badly) the praise of Wing Chung." CreationDate="2014-09-22T06:38:30.847" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6825" PostId="4372" Score="3" Text="Welcome to Martial Arts! On this site we expect all answers to answer the posted question in a factual manner, preferably backed-up by references." CreationDate="2014-09-22T08:53:23.003" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6826" PostId="4372" Score="0" Text="Paragraphs would help make your answer easier to read." CreationDate="2014-09-22T11:18:38.510" UserId="3147" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6829" PostId="3079" Score="0" Text="so basically systema is more like a traditional martial art?&#xA;if i had already trained in arts such as hapkido, learning krav maga and supplementing it with my existing knowledge of joint locks, pressure points, ect. would probably be decent way to go eh?&#xA;thank god for birthright lol" CreationDate="2014-09-22T15:25:07.057" UserDisplayName="user3202" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6837" PostId="4384" Score="1" Text="I actually disagree with your conclusion, specifically the &quot;a non-competitional self defense style&quot;.  Competition does not necessarily mean sport nor does it mean diluted into a dance. Granted, sometimes it does ^_~" CreationDate="2014-09-30T06:37:19.740" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6838" PostId="4384" Score="0" Text="I could have been clearer here. I do not mean to say that all competitive martial arts are bad for self defense, but there are quite a lot of techniques that are very good for self defense yet are not okay in the ring. I'm talking knees to the groin, fingers in eyes and that sort of stuff. Techniques that are easy to learn and that can really tip the scales for a beginner." CreationDate="2014-09-30T06:45:57.237" UserId="3214" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6839" PostId="4384" Score="0" Text="**I am not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV**, that said, harming your attacker might result in you being arrested and possibly convicted for assault..." CreationDate="2014-09-30T08:23:18.800" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6840" PostId="4379" Score="2" Text="&quot;MMA&quot; is a &quot;specific form&quot; that takes whatever it considers the &quot;best&quot; bits from the others. Arguably :_)" CreationDate="2014-09-30T09:31:03.017" UserId="3217" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6841" PostId="4384" Score="1" Text="That is true. It is also true that not harming your attacker might result in you being dead. However, I feel that the actual legalities of self defense is another topic entirely. When I trained Krav Maga we discussed some of the legalities surrounding self defense (what attacks to avoid, how many follow-ups to do, etc.) so I can only assume that other systems also touch upon this subject." CreationDate="2014-09-30T11:14:02.767" UserId="3214" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6842" PostId="4384" Score="1" Text="I have done Karate and Tae-Kwon-Do for the past 15 years and no one has said anything about legal definitions of self defense." CreationDate="2014-09-30T12:24:38.050" UserId="3218" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6843" PostId="4290" Score="0" Text="As a point of interest see http://kxan.com/2014/09/21/texas-homeowner-stabs-accused-intruder-with-spear/  In case of linkrot google &quot;Jimmy Morgan Jr spear&quot;" CreationDate="2014-09-30T15:29:19.533" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6844" PostId="4384" Score="1" Text="I see problems with all 3 of this answer's topics. But the one that I take issue with the most is the idea that MMA training is worse than other systems for self-defense due to the fact that it has rules for safety. In my opinion, you're fooling yourself if you think you can gain competence (reliable in real life) in self-defense by doing something that doesn't involve sparring with partners that are there to resist everything you do. MMA gives you that. Most &quot;focused&quot; (traditional and modern) martial arts don't. Those arts mistakenly believe that their stuff is too deadly for sparring...." CreationDate="2014-09-30T17:11:23.770" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6845" PostId="4384" Score="1" Text="(continued) ... What MMA gives you, primarily, is what's known as a &quot;delivery system&quot;. It gives you a core set of fundamental skills that allows you to deal with a struggling opponent's attacks and defenses, and be able to get in and deliver your strikes, chokes, control techniques, and submissions. Without that, your chances of success in real life are not very good. That's what is missing from most traditional martial arts such as karate. The techniques that are ruled out in MMA training due to safety aren't fundamental to these core skills...." CreationDate="2014-09-30T17:19:54.033" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6846" PostId="4384" Score="1" Text="(continued #2)... Lastly, we know from many real-world examples - both in no-rules competitions and in actual self-defense footage - that unless you train the way MMA trains, you can not gain competence in whatever technique you're developing. The way you train is what really matters. If you can't bring a technique into that kind of training, safely, then it will never be developed to such a skill level as to be competent and reliable in real-life self-defense. So it's worth is questionable." CreationDate="2014-09-30T17:24:06.540" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6847" PostId="4385" Score="0" Text="Yes it's possible to pick up new martial arts if you have experience in related arts.  I don't see a lot of overlap between Judo/Jujitsu and stick fighting.  Do you have someone you can practice with (i.e. learn together)?  Have you looked at Karate/Taekwondo schools in your area (these will sometimes teach weapons, the bo being chief among them)?  Does it have to be bojutsu per se, or will staff training in a kung fu style suffice?" CreationDate="2014-09-30T19:10:25.983" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6848" PostId="4385" Score="0" Text="Yes, it have to be bojutsu :). There is a taekwondo school, but they don't seems to train alot of bojutsu." CreationDate="2014-09-30T20:02:35.160" UserId="1932" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6849" PostId="4379" Score="0" Text="@JohnMee I agree that it's a &quot;specific form&quot;, but I'm emphasizing on the &quot;mixed&quot; versus the not so &quot;mixed&quot;. Glad you brought it to my attention that the question could be interpreted that way." CreationDate="2014-09-30T20:04:03.690" UserId="3215" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6850" PostId="4380" Score="0" Text="Would starting out with MMA then be advantageous in the sense of giving me a _flavour_ of the various arts(even if only very few), such that I would possibly be able to discover what _kind_ of art I would possibly want to _specialize_ (if I can put it like that) in at a later stage?" CreationDate="2014-09-30T20:13:21.983" UserId="3215" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6851" PostId="4381" Score="0" Text="I'm definitely not &quot;big and strong&quot;, I'm quite fit and lean though. I had a look at the programs that specific MMA gym provides and it appears that the &quot;newbies&quot; don't get all too physical, as far as I can make out. Glad you mentioned that, I never considered it." CreationDate="2014-09-30T20:19:34.840" UserId="3215" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6852" PostId="4383" Score="0" Text="That's something I haven't considered, injury rates. Will definitely inquire about that. How would I go about asking that in an appropriate way? I must say that I too get the feeling &quot;that MMA's popularity as a competitive sport often brings in people more enthusiastic than patient&quot;." CreationDate="2014-09-30T20:26:06.507" UserId="3215" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6853" PostId="4380" Score="1" Text="Yes, because you'll train all the basic aspects of combat: wrestling, submissions, striking. But if you want a sampler platter, it would be better to try class at every martial arts gym in town. There are other kinds of arts not covered by MMA, largely because they mostly don't work against resisting opponents or outside of extremely specific circumstances (e.g. law enforcement)." CreationDate="2014-09-30T20:36:34.703" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6854" PostId="4383" Score="0" Text="When you check out a school, ask to sit in and watch some training.  Ask the students afterwards questions like, &quot;How long they've been training? If they've had to work around any injuries&quot; etc.  Obviously, ppl will share what they're comfortable with, but most people are happy to speak up." CreationDate="2014-10-01T01:36:05.877" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6855" PostId="4383" Score="0" Text="Also if the school has an online group (facebook, etc.) you may want to lurk and see if anyone's asking or mentioning injuries etc." CreationDate="2014-10-01T01:36:32.237" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6856" PostId="4383" Score="0" Text="That seems like the way to go. I was in fact 'lurking' their online group today. Now I just need to muster up the courage to physically go there." CreationDate="2014-10-01T01:44:43.587" UserId="3215" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6857" PostId="4383" Score="0" Text="If you train hard in any art (or any contact sport for that matter) you'll get injured. Stop posting on the internet and try class. Today." CreationDate="2014-10-01T06:01:12.770" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6858" PostId="4384" Score="1" Text="I feel I have been misunderstood here. First, when I wrote &quot;self defense system&quot; I meant systems for self defense and not for competition. Systems that help you defend yourself in as short amount of time as possible. MMA is not such a system, it is a sport. Just like boxing, jujitsu, tae-kwon-do or karate it focuses on taking out one unarmed opponent in a ring. Systems like Krav Maga, Systema or MCMAP incorporate multiple opponents, common objects, groin strikes and eye gouging. Everything that can give you an edge. They also involve sparring against opponents that try their best to resist..." CreationDate="2014-10-01T07:01:49.650" UserId="3214" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6859" PostId="4384" Score="0" Text="... anything you do since, as you say, that is the only way of training an efficient self defense. Also, safe for training and safe for competition are two different things. By using techniques slowly and wearing good protection, even eye gouging can be emulated safely. Knives are not permitted in an MMA fight and I've never heard of MMA fighters training with them, but they're a real life threat and must be defended against. This is where competition focused martial systems are at a disadvantage. You will never encounter someone wielding a baseball bat in the ring so you never train for it." CreationDate="2014-10-01T07:02:20.447" UserId="3214" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6860" PostId="4384" Score="0" Text="That being said, I've never said that MMA training was a worse choice for self defense than all other systems and I apologize if my text came across that way. I consider it a worse option than Krav Maga, Systema and MCMAP for self defense, but a better option than Taekwondo or Jujitsu. However, I still don't consider MMA a _bad_ option for self defense. Sorry if I ruffled any MMA feather out there." CreationDate="2014-10-01T07:02:41.373" UserId="3214" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6862" PostId="4383" Score="2" Text="@DaveLiepmann I made an appointment for this evening." CreationDate="2014-10-01T12:10:19.910" UserId="3215" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6863" PostId="2910" Score="0" Text="This question appears to be off-topic because it is about stupid TV shows" CreationDate="2014-10-01T13:18:12.710" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6864" PostId="2910" Score="0" Text="This question appears to be off-topic because it is an April fools joke after April." CreationDate="2014-10-01T16:13:15.677" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6866" PostId="4383" Score="0" Text="Cool! Hope the school is good and you have a great time!" CreationDate="2014-10-01T18:41:15.903" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6867" PostId="4388" Score="1" Text="Most complete answer thus far." CreationDate="2014-10-01T18:59:05.833" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6868" PostId="4384" Score="2" Text="I think you misunderstand MMA. MMA is a training methodology, not a set of techniques. It's a way of training so that you can see if your stuff is working against someone who is trying his best to do the same against you. It gives you skills in avoiding getting hurt while being able to get through his defenses. Without it, you just have theory. You can't actually use it reliably. And yes, MMA training can and often does incorporate knives and sticks. I would take MMA over Krav Maga any day. You might take this discussion to a forum like Bullshido if you really want to discuss it." CreationDate="2014-10-01T19:35:05.783" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6872" PostId="4393" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site.  This is a nice question indeed." CreationDate="2014-10-03T08:53:41.463" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6873" PostId="4393" Score="1" Text="Can you tell us which specific pads you use?  What type of kick?  Also, a photo of your hands while holding the pad might help." CreationDate="2014-10-03T12:31:16.783" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6874" PostId="4393" Score="2" Text="Yeah, a photo is the only way to go here. I suspect you're taking a lot of force into your wrists instead of allowing it to go down your arms and into your body. Sometimes there is no way to get your body behind it, depending on what you're trying to do, and so it ends up feeling like a speed focus pad, kind of dangled out there freely, and that's where it might torque your wrist. Aside from that, I'd say experiment with keeping your wrist relaxed vs. keeping it tight." CreationDate="2014-10-03T18:15:27.557" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6875" PostId="1827" Score="0" Text="@LuboAntonov Wow, that's not even slightly what that study showed." CreationDate="2014-10-04T21:08:26.810" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6876" PostId="4395" Score="0" Text="possible duplicate of [Down a hand, looking for new martial art](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/4258/down-a-hand-looking-for-new-martial-art)" CreationDate="2014-10-05T20:45:26.843" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6877" PostId="4395" Score="0" Text="This question is very similar to one of the previous ones:&#xA;http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/4258/down-a-hand-looking-for-new-martial-art" CreationDate="2014-10-05T20:46:15.417" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6879" PostId="4393" Score="0" Text="Thanks all. I've added more info above. I'll make sure to get a photo next time I train, but for now I'm taking a few weeks' break to let my wrists recover." CreationDate="2014-10-06T03:25:24.123" UserId="3227" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6881" PostId="4395" Score="4" Text="@SteveWeigand I disagree. This question is about minimizing the risk of injury to the OPs hands. The question you are referring to is about not using one hand. The latter doesn't help a piano player, because he/she would need both hands to play." CreationDate="2014-10-06T08:10:34.547" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6882" PostId="4397" Score="0" Text="The 2003 South Korean movie or Spike Lee's remake?" CreationDate="2014-10-06T13:40:59.587" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6883" PostId="4397" Score="0" Text="2003 South Korean version" CreationDate="2014-10-06T14:33:52.430" UserId="1453" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6884" PostId="4395" Score="0" Text="The way I interpreted that question in the question I linked to was finding a martial art that didn't do much with the hands, assuming that hand contact of any kind was off-limits due to injury. In this new question, the question is very similar, except that the hands haven't been injured yet. This is someone who is trying to avoid injury. In the previous question I linked to, someone is trying to avoid re-injury. Very similar indeed. But I guess the primary difference might be that the one who hasn't injured his/her hands is willing to at least use them. The other author was not." CreationDate="2014-10-06T18:31:51.707" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6886" PostId="4397" Score="1" Text="I guess you're talking about the corridor fight scene?&#xA;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwIIDzrVVdc" CreationDate="2014-10-06T22:09:24.060" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6887" PostId="4397" Score="0" Text="Full movie is here, fyi:&#xA;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlXp3Uf9xT8" CreationDate="2014-10-06T22:10:16.307" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6888" PostId="1575" Score="0" Text="Its going to depend on how many belts are in your system. If its the standard 8 gups, do the math. How many belts are there in your system?" CreationDate="2014-10-06T23:56:36.787" UserId="1655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6890" PostId="4395" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand thanks for the link, but THelper pointed out the difference - I'm willing to use both my arms and elbows to defend an opponent, but really hesitant for moves that'd cause finger injury if I have any other choice." CreationDate="2014-10-07T01:13:14.603" UserId="3233" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6893" PostId="4397" Score="0" Text="Yes I am talking about the corridor scene." CreationDate="2014-10-07T17:12:20.187" UserId="1453" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6894" PostId="4394" Score="1" Text="It would be a little bit more helpful if you could summarize some of the advice from the video just in case the video gets taken down." CreationDate="2014-10-07T17:39:13.597" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6895" PostId="4400" Score="4" Text="Possibly related question: http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/3135/best-to-learn-for-self-defense-wrestling-boxing-or-jui-jitsu?rq=1" CreationDate="2014-10-07T19:09:14.320" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6896" PostId="4401" Score="0" Text="What would happen if they were all trained professional fighters." CreationDate="2014-10-07T20:46:03.623" UserId="1453" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6897" PostId="4401" Score="2" Text="Or just determined? Pigpile. It requires an arc to use a weapon like a hammer effectively. Pin the arms and they can't get that swing. That many people, they would have just piled on. There are ways to fight multiple people like that, but it requires mobility enough to be able to prevent them attacking you all at once. That was not the case in the corridor. For that matter, anyone with something heavy could have started chucking it at him and he would have had no defence." CreationDate="2014-10-07T22:32:55.397" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6898" PostId="4401" Score="0" Text="If someone was able to have the strength along with other factors to escape or still fight from a pigpile that would be awesome." CreationDate="2014-10-07T23:14:49.477" UserId="1453" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6899" PostId="4400" Score="4" Text="-1. This read like almost (but not quiet) a [Gorilla vs. Shark](http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2011/08/gorilla-vs-shark/). Also, &quot;real life situation&quot; is so vague as to be meaningless. Self defence is not street fighting." CreationDate="2014-10-08T07:09:58.133" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6900" PostId="4402" Score="3" Text="Good answer overall but I would emphasis that self defence is not limited to fighting. Although, that might be just me... ^_~" CreationDate="2014-10-08T08:18:49.807" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6901" PostId="4402" Score="1" Text="That's a good point.  Fighting is the last part of self-defense.  Self-awareness, environment-awareness, and preventative measures should come long before the fight." CreationDate="2014-10-08T11:10:44.193" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6902" PostId="4403" Score="0" Text="This questions is related: http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/1313/where-can-i-go-to-order-cheap-grappling-mats-for-beginners" CreationDate="2014-10-08T11:27:36.737" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6903" PostId="1827" Score="0" Text="quick tip for morning stiffness : exercices yourself in the morning. it hurts like hell at the start, but you wont feel stiff the rest of the day" CreationDate="2014-10-08T17:20:31.383" UserId="1526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6904" PostId="4403" Score="0" Text="Thanks, it's kind of related but it's more about where to buy them which unfortunately doesn't really help me as I don't live in the US." CreationDate="2014-10-08T19:23:16.773" UserId="3239" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6907" PostId="4401" Score="1" Text="I have a sneaking suspicion that this answer was not what you were looking for... :-P" CreationDate="2014-10-09T12:07:22.720" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6908" PostId="4401" Score="0" Text="It is, but I like fiction so just saying if someone were to escape from pigpile s fighting huge hordes of people in real life then to me that would be impressive." CreationDate="2014-10-09T12:24:16.387" UserId="1453" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6909" PostId="4401" Score="1" Text="{nods} If the answer addresses your question and you're reasonably certain a better one isn't going to pop up, can you accept it? :) Gotta feed my rep-habit..." CreationDate="2014-10-09T12:35:36.030" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6910" PostId="4412" Score="1" Text="A few problems: Allowed by whom? Legal under what law(s)? Reasonable in what context? ... What problem are you trying to solve?" CreationDate="2014-10-09T13:29:08.323" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6911" PostId="4380" Score="0" Text="There's also the problem if an MMA class caters to MMA competition, it has some failings in self defence.  This is because MMA is no &quot;no holds barred&quot;; small joint locks, biting, gouging, groin/back of head blows are not trained for or taught." CreationDate="2014-10-09T14:01:52.177" UserId="1551" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6912" PostId="4401" Score="0" Text="I can accept it." CreationDate="2014-10-09T14:06:50.667" UserId="1453" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6914" PostId="4412" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion, legal in the rules of Muay Thai-is it allowed? Can such moves or similar moves be done by the person who has his leg trapped in another's grip?" CreationDate="2014-10-09T14:23:57.167" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6915" PostId="4412" Score="1" Text="I think that doing Capoeira in a Muay Thai match would only result in your being disqualified or penalised..." CreationDate="2014-10-09T14:31:25.517" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6916" PostId="4412" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion Look at the cartwheel kick here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZWjq8hfryo  its not far from it" CreationDate="2014-10-09T14:34:23.220" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6917" PostId="4404" Score="0" Text="Thank you all.  Very useful answer.  I can only pick one unfortunately.  I went to practice and did Muay Thai instead of boxing.  It was different drills which I think helped avoid more pain.  Next practice is Saturday. Ultimately my goal is 3-4 times a week.  Loving this forum.  I'll post more questions about my training later." CreationDate="2014-10-09T16:52:12.193" UserId="1973" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6921" PostId="4401" Score="0" Text="@cameron &quot;if they were all trained&quot; - several of them  hit him from behind - they wasted the chance to tackle, enclosing his arms and taking him to his knees, head tucked out of reach should he attempt a backwards headbutt, giving the others ample time to apply a choke or finishing strikes.  At 0:43 a guy kicks too high allowing his leg to be caught, with hands down unable to defend against the hammer - a good fighter would have kicked just above the knee and had an arm bar or punch ready too.  At 0:45 he's hit in the back; a better opponent could strike decisively to his head.  On and on...." CreationDate="2014-10-09T17:27:36.970" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6922" PostId="4401" Score="0" Text="Wow, that's even more awesome. When you say arm bar, which would be more effective, flying arm bar or other arm bars." CreationDate="2014-10-09T19:29:05.650" UserId="1453" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6923" PostId="2482" Score="0" Text="It's worthwhile to note that the hip is also used in this throw as you are supposed to thrust your hip into uke. You can find videos of Mifune(the guy that made the throw) do this." CreationDate="2014-10-10T03:48:25.297" UserId="1437" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6924" PostId="4414" Score="2" Text="I would disagree that there is no leverage to do damage — I have seen such kicks connect with considerable force — but it would be difficult to land on a prepared opponent and the odds are extremely low that you would be able to land on your feet again, let alone catch your balance in time to defend yourself.." CreationDate="2014-10-10T14:58:45.200" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6925" PostId="4401" Score="0" Text="I'm not sure that your link listing a handful of examples from history (many not independently corroborated, and almost all involving sniper rifles, machine guns, or armored vehicles) qualifies as making it &quot;plausible.&quot; Maybe &quot;just barely possible&quot;. But it's not indicative of what you could ever expect from any kind of martial arts training, or from any real fight." CreationDate="2014-10-10T19:07:50.187" UserId="698" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6926" PostId="4401" Score="0" Text="@Larry:&#xA;Admittedly, the TV Tropes entry is a bit heavy on weaponry examples, but it shows that it could be done. I think that, in the end, it's a matter of psychology of the opposition. One of the points of military training is teaching people to ignore self-preservation and charge forward. As a whole, they can win, but as long as most people are holding back, you get a limited number of attackers at a time, which is more manageable." CreationDate="2014-10-10T19:11:30.063" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6927" PostId="4401" Score="0" Text="@Larry: We had a regrettable case recently involving a kid with a butcher knife who cut his way through a hallway of kids. Most of the kids were larger than he was. But no one wanted to be the person who risked getting into the range of the knives until the security guard tackled him. Trained martial artists or security personnel would probably know better. Fortunately, Oh Dae-Su was up against a set of thugs more used to being the aggressors against weaker opponents." CreationDate="2014-10-10T19:13:52.390" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6928" PostId="3075" Score="1" Text="+1 for sticking up for the people who aren't world class athletes! Concepts are great to understand but not everyone can get their reps in sparring!" CreationDate="2014-10-11T00:02:44.187" UserId="3147" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6929" PostId="4403" Score="0" Text="We use a number of mats that can hold 34 people at max and costs about 5000$. That should give you an idea" CreationDate="2014-10-11T00:30:49.730" UserId="3248" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6930" PostId="4403" Score="0" Text="$5000 / 17 = around $300 for 2 people so not too cheap. Can you give me any info on the material you use?" CreationDate="2014-10-11T04:56:23.673" UserId="3239" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="6931" PostId="513" Score="2" Text="The belt getting dirty because of the long time of training is often perceived as a symbol that quite well visualizes the amount of time and effort needed to achieve such level of expertise. It doesn't have to be actually true to serve this purpose, and thus I don't find it &quot;stupid&quot;. Beside that, nice answer!" CreationDate="2014-10-11T19:04:52.140" UserId="3249" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7931" PostId="4380" Score="1" Text="@RossDrew Yes, MMA students have to make do with training to become more athletic and better at the vast majority of fundamental fighting techniques." CreationDate="2014-10-11T22:28:59.780" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7932" PostId="4412" Score="0" Text="@TonyD Your comment would make a fine answer." CreationDate="2014-10-12T00:55:41.900" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7933" PostId="4418" Score="1" Text="Slugster - the situation is more like the 1st case. I'll try and have a conversation with this guy. Thanks" CreationDate="2014-10-13T05:55:25.347" UserId="3246" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7934" PostId="4418" Score="0" Text="@km That's good to hear - it's not as bad as the second option. You should do some training yourself, then once you have some background you could ask questions on how to best handle specific situations or moves." CreationDate="2014-10-13T06:12:53.817" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7935" PostId="4419" Score="1" Text="This is basically what I wanted to say too." CreationDate="2014-10-13T10:17:42.660" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7936" PostId="4415" Score="5" Text="Bite. I once saw a guy bite his opponent's testicle. it was extremely effective. It was a desperate situation though." CreationDate="2014-10-13T10:19:06.937" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7938" PostId="4401" Score="0" Text="@cameron: regarding the arm bar - if the guy who had kicked had kicked around knee height he'd have been well placed to smash his right forearm into Oh Dae-Su's throat or head... having just kicked, he definitely wasn't in a position to do a &quot;flying&quot; movement like that, and there's no need... done correctly those techniques &quot;coat hanger&quot; an opponent even without much backswing, and being grounded helps." CreationDate="2014-10-13T13:40:06.683" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7939" PostId="4415" Score="0" Text="Usually if someone chooses you as their target it was because they thought they could beat you, either through strength, age, experience, or some other factors (or combination of factors)." CreationDate="2014-10-13T22:02:40.283" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7942" PostId="4425" Score="0" Text="Yes, people please do not use wrist weights or attempt to punch with dumbbells. That's just going to totally wreck your elbows, to the point where you need major surgery and might not ever be able to do a lot of things you take for granted. Bad bad idea... And Dave is 100% right about weights. Couldn't find anything about this answer that I disagree with." CreationDate="2014-10-15T03:49:40.413" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7943" PostId="4426" Score="2" Text="I am strongly against attaching wrist or even upper-arm weights. Don't do it. There are better ways to train that don't involve potentially screwing up your joints. The better way to increase muscle strength is through weightlifting with free weights. If you need to weight your body down, do so around the torso only. Wear a weighted backpack or attach a bungee cord to your waist using a dip belt or something (the other end of the cord attached to the wall or something). Especially do not attach weights to your wrists or ankles. That will blow your elbows, knees, shoulders, and hips." CreationDate="2014-10-15T03:54:52.097" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7944" PostId="4426" Score="0" Text="Can you identify even one benefit of shadowboxing with 40 pounds in yours arms over improving your bench press and overhead press using a progressive overload strength program? I see no benefit." CreationDate="2014-10-15T06:10:09.413" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7945" PostId="4426" Score="0" Text="@Dave, No I cannot identify what benefits there may be. Its not what I would do; but his instructor knows him best, and the question was really between the two. I agree with your answer." CreationDate="2014-10-15T16:55:12.203" UserId="4254" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7946" PostId="4425" Score="1" Text="Thanks Dave.  I take your point about the wrist weights/dumbbells.  For what it's worth, in the class we shadow box with 2.5lb dumbbells, not 30 or 40 lbs.!  Due to time constraints (work/family) I'm not sure how much time I'd have for weights.  It might be easier to put a heavy bag in the garage. And a bag might be more fun What did you think of the heavy bag suggestion in the other answer? And I read and understood your comments about legs.  I meant that my legs are comparatively stronger than my arms.  That's not saying that I have super strong legs, rather that my arms need the most help!" CreationDate="2014-10-15T17:37:14.387" UserId="1973" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7947" PostId="4425" Score="0" Text="The good thing about Olympic lifts is that they're very time efficient. One lift can work the entire body. Do 3-5 sets of 4 reps each, 2-3 times a week. Or look into Jim Wendler's &quot;5/3/1 Program&quot;. It's designed to be time efficient and no-nonsense / very simple to understand and do. Buy your own equipment instead of going to a gym to save even more time (don't have to drive anywhere). Basic equipment: Olympic barbell, olympic weight plates, barbell collars (Lock-Jaws). Optional but very good to have: bench, squat rack, dumbbell set, dip handles, dip strap, lifting gloves, weight belt." CreationDate="2014-10-15T18:04:56.747" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7948" PostId="4415" Score="0" Text="This sounds more like a brother quarrel than other situation ... I dont remember where I heard this phrase, but it have been a kind of spiritual guide for me .... &quot;In real life, its not the other guy who decide when he won, its you who decide when you have lost.&quot; Which bring my question : to which extremities are you willing to bring this ? Sometimes admitting defeat IS the wiser choice ..." CreationDate="2014-10-15T19:06:04.060" UserId="1526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7949" PostId="4425" Score="0" Text="@Dave The light dumbbells still have all the problems I listed. A punching bag is a fine idea." CreationDate="2014-10-15T19:12:07.307" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7950" PostId="4425" Score="0" Text="Thanks Dave.  I've already started looking for a heavy bag.  They are not cheap!  Any recommendations as to brand and/or weight or must I post another question :)  My specs: Beginning boxing and perhaps Muay Thai. So possibly nice if I could kick it too but main thing is punching to get arm strength. My Specs:  Weight 154 lbs. Height 5'9&quot;" CreationDate="2014-10-15T20:15:46.663" UserId="1973" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7951" PostId="4426" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the comments.  I might try the heavy bad idea and try to make time for weights." CreationDate="2014-10-15T20:25:51.470" UserId="1973" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7952" PostId="577" Score="0" Text="Misogi refers to ritual cleansing by water. I think someone might be telling you to take a shower after practice ;) I don't know much about Aikido, but I do know that we were Taught Tae Kyu as part of our Taekwondo training. Tae Kyu is supposedly top secret deadly stuff, but it basically boiled down to &quot;if a guy grabs your arm, poke him in the eye or kick him in the nuts until he lets go&quot;. Don't expect Misogi to be any different." CreationDate="2014-10-16T09:31:47.620" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7953" PostId="577" Score="0" Text="@JuannStrauss If I do not know something, I do not expect anything, neither imaging anything. I just do not know it." CreationDate="2014-10-16T11:48:48.787" UserId="267" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7954" PostId="577" Score="0" Text="I am just saying that it's probably going to be much more boring than it sounds." CreationDate="2014-10-16T11:50:24.267" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7955" PostId="577" Score="0" Text="@JuannStrauss If I do not know &quot;Joann Strauss&quot;, and never talk with him/her, how can I say if its an interesting person, or a boring one ?" CreationDate="2014-10-16T13:30:09.913" UserId="267" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7956" PostId="4425" Score="0" Text="I'm not well versed in heavy bag purchasing. I will note that the cost and time involved with buying and using a heavy bag is relatively similar to that of buying some heavy dumbbells and getting good at overhead presses, Turkish get-ups, cleans, lunges, goblet squats, and snatches." CreationDate="2014-10-16T13:42:55.953" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7959" PostId="4356" Score="0" Text="Real kickboxing and muay thai classes were you're not going fit or is very physical demanding ain't not the real deal. You're going to get tired by skipping rope, kicking and punching pads &amp; bags. I would say it is required to be really fit to compete in those sports, or even to spar in those. Or else you would run out of breath quite fast and you're techniques will run out of power, speed and effectiveness. Actually I believe top elite kickboxing/muay thai fighters are one of the athletes which has one of the highest cardiovascular capacity, almost in the same levels as cross-country skiers." CreationDate="2014-10-16T18:14:20.450" UserId="1978" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7960" PostId="4356" Score="0" Text="Look at the workouts muay thai fighters are doing - http://www.tigermuaythai.com/training/muay-thai/muay-thai-training-program/advanced.html If that ain't physically taxing then I don't know what is." CreationDate="2014-10-16T18:34:35.793" UserId="1978" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7961" PostId="4425" Score="0" Text="You either hang a punching bag from the ceiling or set up a free-standing frame. There are do-it-yourself plans for both on the web. There are also stands you can get already made, but they tend to be wobbly, so check them out before you buy. Hanging from the ceiling means you need to find a support beam, and maybe even reinforce it. Personally, I'd opt for the stand first before hanging from a ceiling if it's in my home (due to the inherent abuse your ceiling will take)." CreationDate="2014-10-16T19:42:24.060" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7962" PostId="4356" Score="1" Text="That's not the point. The point is that you can join a specialised fitness programme to get fit. That leaves the instructor to teach you how to fight instead of spending time on conditioning. Elite fighters may have 3 hours per day to train, but the regular student only has 45 minutes. It is extremely important to make the most of those 45 minutes and the best thing is to hand off the fitness portion to someone else." CreationDate="2014-10-17T08:52:49.050" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7963" PostId="4419" Score="1" Text="Man you seem to be the sport expert on all the sport sites on SE. Do you practice martial arts? are you an expert or a trainer somehow?! You really know a lot! Share your story with us :P" CreationDate="2014-10-17T08:56:09.007" UserId="4259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7964" PostId="4419" Score="0" Text="@AlexTwain I'm no expert. I just happen to write well enough to gain Internet Points on fitness.se and ma.se. I lift a bit and right now I'm training BJJ (as a white belt)." CreationDate="2014-10-17T09:55:25.567" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7966" PostId="4356" Score="1" Text="I've never trained any martial arts class which is only 45 minutes. The normal is 90 minutes or maybe even 2 hours." CreationDate="2014-10-17T12:13:56.920" UserId="1978" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7968" PostId="4432" Score="1" Text="This would be primarily wushu, not much of TKD except that some kicks cross over between arts (and are common to almost all karate styled arts). I also voted to move to Martial Arts, although your answer here is pretty much what they would say. You can also tell it's more towards wushu with the brief sword clip." CreationDate="2014-10-16T16:03:27.900" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7970" PostId="4436" Score="2" Text="Yes, it's tricking. But I wouldn't say it's not martial arts. The material is from martial arts, but done in a way that's all its own art and no longer solely for the purpose of martial arts. Contemporary wushu is similar in that respect also, yet it's still thought of as martial arts. And I think many contemporary wushu people go into tricking and vice-versa. There's a lot of overlap, and it's hard to say tricking doesn't have anything to do with martial arts. It certainly does, but that's not its primary focus." CreationDate="2014-10-18T21:55:30.853" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7971" PostId="4432" Score="1" Text="This is tricking, not wushu. Wushu does have most or all of the individual techniques demonstrated in this video, but just not done the way they do them. Taekwondo is pretty far removed from tricking, but contemporary Wushu isn't. Barbell cleans and working on power strength training is good and can help in all sorts of ways, but the most direct way of training to do tricking is to find a gymnastics gym which teaches it and sign up for classes. Or find a contemporary (modern) wushu school and train there." CreationDate="2014-10-18T22:01:38.167" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7972" PostId="4434" Score="6" Text="Good answer. If schools have a particular policy or etiquette rules in place about this, then you should follow those rules. Otherwise, socializing outside of class is not only expected but encouraged. That is often what draws people to learn martial arts - making new friends and socializing. I would just add one thing: Be careful that your relationship doesn't affect how you behave in class. In class, you behave as if you two are just students. Cordial. No PDA. Don't argue. Don't bring your outside emotions into class. If you can't do that, then don't get involved with someone there." CreationDate="2014-10-18T22:12:00.613" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7974" PostId="4435" Score="0" Text="I appreciate the insight of an experienced martial artist. Your absolutely correct that this should discussed with the Shihan. Could you possibly recommended the appropriate way to bring it up to him. Thanks again." CreationDate="2014-10-19T05:47:52.887" UserId="4262" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7975" PostId="4430" Score="0" Text="All links have been added, including the mentioned video." CreationDate="2014-10-19T11:36:31.797" UserId="3234" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7977" PostId="4436" Score="1" Text="@SteveWeigand it's about as strongly related to martial arts as Billy Blanks Tae Bo workout... nothing wrong with either if you want acrobatics or a aerobic workout respectively... though for a martial artist to also do Tae Bo would probably be less destructive to their technique than practicing tricking: with Tae Bo you could actually continue to do technique properly if you've the energy, speed and discipline, but the aims of tricking distort the posture, balance, timing, footwork and &quot;flow&quot; of martial arts, undoubtedly developing disruptive habits." CreationDate="2014-10-19T13:30:58.520" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7978" PostId="4432" Score="0" Text="&quot;Taekwondo is pretty far removed from tricking&quot; - ummm - [there is this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKmnQdn70oY)... :-/" CreationDate="2014-10-19T13:35:33.680" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7979" PostId="4435" Score="0" Text="@OscarMcPherson: things differ school to school, but e.g. in my first school: knock on the master's office door when he didn't seem busy (not soon before class), say there's a matter you're wondering about and you'd appreciate his letting you know what's expected of you.  Then explain there's a girl from [high?] school you like and wanted to ask out, but she's training at the dojo too now.  You  understand there are potential issues - which you would of course try to manage and minimise - but would appreciate his clarifying the school's expectations. Something like that. (We were very formal!)" CreationDate="2014-10-19T15:17:04.917" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7980" PostId="90" Score="1" Text="&quot;due to your training you may not remember the exact sequence of actions that took place and the exact force you may have hit with - you are trained to react without conscious thought which makes remembering really hard&quot; - in my experience it's more the opposite - real life altercations have been over quickly and I typically remember them blow for blow afterwards, with a lot of the subtle positional, conversation (if any), timing, distancing, footwork, even my own thinking and decision making at various stages of the conflict.  I could reenact them accurately - unlike dojo/tournament kumite." CreationDate="2014-10-19T15:48:37.803" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7981" PostId="4436" Score="1" Text="That's true about the mechanics you described, if they don't already come from a contemporary wushu background before coming into tricking. And the tricking people recognize it and seem to admire it and want to do it the way wushu does it, but they just don't have the right instruction for that. As for it being an aerobic workout, it is to some people but isn't to others. To many people, tricking is martial arts done to an extreme. It's why there aren't a lot of women in it, but you'll see women in gymnastics and wushu all the time. Tricking has the martial vibe to it still, generally." CreationDate="2014-10-19T16:48:56.157" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7982" PostId="4432" Score="0" Text="@TonyD That is not tricking on that video, though. That's Taekwondo done with a little flash for demonstration. The &quot;flash&quot; that they do doesn't even scratch the surface of the kind of flash you see in tricking. That video shows pretty much all orthodox TKD kicks, with some entertaining setups such as stepping on someone who's crouched down and using them as a step to jump off of to get more air. Not in the same league as what they do in tricking." CreationDate="2014-10-19T17:00:03.113" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7983" PostId="4439" Score="1" Text="Great piece of advice. The last thing you want is to come across as an arrogant dork." CreationDate="2014-10-20T08:10:09.790" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7984" PostId="4438" Score="0" Text="I appreciate all of your help. To clarify, I am not in fear of joint damage by manipulation but my knees, back are &quot;old man stiff&quot;.  I won't be doing any &quot;Kill Bill&quot; style moves any time soon, not that it was possible when I was young either. I would agree that the Sensi and dojo are important." CreationDate="2014-10-20T09:08:28.447" UserId="3236" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7985" PostId="4433" Score="8" Text="Dictating who can date whom is cult behavior. No one at any school has a right to tell you that you can't.  HOWEVER.  They should expect you to behave professionally toward each other inside the dojo, both in terms of flirting, and if the relationship goes sour.  You are walking a fine line.  If it doesn't work out, one of you will probably quit." CreationDate="2014-10-20T14:32:20.310" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7988" PostId="4433" Score="1" Text="When I was teaching on a regular basis, I had my wife as one of my students. Unless you are in a VERY formal, old school style dojo, then it *shouldn't* matter. Just talk to your school owner about it." CreationDate="2014-10-20T17:02:53.357" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7989" PostId="4436" Score="0" Text="Add to that, NASKA has both creative and extreme divisions in weapons and empty hand forms that are very popular, and participated in by both many men AND women. And it is very hard to be good at &quot;tricking&quot; if you aren't already very good at the underlying basics of martial arts. Just because YOU don't like it, doesn't mean it isn't a valid, recognized extension of martial arts." CreationDate="2014-10-20T17:13:51.900" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7990" PostId="4436" Score="1" Text="@JohnP &quot;Just because YOU don't like it, doesn't mean it isn't a valid, recognized extension of martial arts.&quot; - don't put words in my mouth... I don't consider it a martial art because it doesn't aim to optimise fighting ability... nothing to do with likes and dislikes.  What's the rest of what you say got to do with anything?" CreationDate="2014-10-20T21:08:26.203" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7993" PostId="4450" Score="1" Text="After the edit this looks like a solid question, though I think the OP will receive higher-quality answers if this were posted at fitness.stackexchange.com" CreationDate="2014-10-22T12:03:01.260" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7994" PostId="4451" Score="0" Text="Yea i used to do riptoes then I cut off excess fat and saw that I was doing much better in karate competitions, i stopped the weight training been 8 months to concentrate fully on karate ( day and night)...I think i'll get back to it. BTW how does rope skipping get into this?" CreationDate="2014-10-22T12:27:25.640" UserId="4270" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7995" PostId="4451" Score="1" Text="@BeachSamurai Rope skipping would fit in with cardio--I don't see a tremendous need for it, considering you're training karate. If you feel like jumping rope then priority-wise it goes after karate and after lifting, alongside kata and bag work outside of class." CreationDate="2014-10-22T12:30:44.660" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7996" PostId="4451" Score="0" Text="OK more importantly whats the time period I should focus on this weight training? I stopped after 2 years (1.5yrs bulking + 5 months cutting (dirty bulk :( )) but im no more into body building..shoudl I stop after I reched my BMI? around 75kg-80kg ? if I stop will i lose muscle?" CreationDate="2014-10-22T12:35:10.853" UserId="4270" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7997" PostId="4450" Score="0" Text="It is generally good practice to wait at least 24hours before accepting an answer.  It encourages others to add their own." CreationDate="2014-10-22T12:47:49.133" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="7999" PostId="4451" Score="0" Text="ok i checked over at the fitness section and came over this phrase &quot;o the effect of if you can't deadlift 2x your bodyweight and squat your own bodyweight, you have no business training martial arts&quot; from this thread https://fitness.stackexchange.com/questions/7347/recommendations-for-a-weight-program-to-support-martial-arts-competition?rq=1 . I think it answers my questions." CreationDate="2014-10-22T13:08:47.533" UserId="4270" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8000" PostId="4451" Score="0" Text="If you liked that, read [this](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/855/347)" CreationDate="2014-10-22T13:12:53.297" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8001" PostId="4450" Score="0" Text="Are you training at a dojo and under an instructor? As a fellow karataka I feel like these questions should probably be directed to your teacher. I would assume that a karate teacher has an itinerary of kihons that would help you develop the above mentioned." CreationDate="2014-10-22T13:44:17.493" UserId="3124" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8002" PostId="4438" Score="2" Text="I feel an important piece of information here is &quot;why do you want to practice a martial art?&quot;." CreationDate="2014-10-22T13:46:08.280" UserId="3124" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8003" PostId="4450" Score="0" Text="@ChristopherLee Sadly, most martial arts instructors know approximately zero about effective strength and power training. Even the good ones. (Also, kihon don't develop much strength or power--they're meant to develop technique and conditioning.)" CreationDate="2014-10-22T13:47:20.030" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8004" PostId="4450" Score="0" Text="Well I do not really have much experience with many instructors. I train under a traditional Okinawan karate-do instructor, and my experiences are not like what you mentioned. My opinion would be to perhaps find a better instructor if that is possible. Perhaps someone more closely related to Okinawa." CreationDate="2014-10-22T13:56:38.407" UserId="3124" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8005" PostId="4450" Score="0" Text="@ChristopherLee Being closely related to Okinawa has absolutely no bearing on one's knowledge of proper strength training. In my experience, if anything, it would mark them as more likely to use less-effective historical methods rather than simple, effective modern tools and programs." CreationDate="2014-10-22T14:41:43.040" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8006" PostId="4450" Score="0" Text="@ChristopherLee my instructors are good at kihon, and katas they go to japan occasionally, they encourage us to hit the gym but in the gym the training is not done efficiently :(   okinawan like goju ryu? i prefer kyokushin style :)" CreationDate="2014-10-22T15:17:40.737" UserId="4270" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8008" PostId="1604" Score="0" Text="-1. This does not answer the question at all. First, it talks about Burn Notice which is fictional instead of a documentary that the question is asking about. Second, it reads like a endorsement of Miller's books which again have nothing to do with TV documentaries on martial arts." CreationDate="2014-10-23T12:04:40.207" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8009" PostId="2184" Score="0" Text="Just to comment, *Armada* is closer to an outside spinning crescent kick, striking with the blade of the foot. *Meia lua de compasso* is more like the Hapkido spinning heel kick, striking with the heel and also doing the &quot;dip the torso close to the ground&quot; part of things. Although, as you noted, the names do very a lot between schools." CreationDate="2014-10-23T12:37:56.183" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8010" PostId="2184" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan You're right. I am the one who performs these kicks wrong. My Armada lands the hit with the heel." CreationDate="2014-10-23T14:11:54.227" UserId="1333" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8012" PostId="4415" Score="0" Text="Just to reinforce what other people have said, if you don't want to be sparring with this person and they haven't stopped when you ask them to, they are bullying you and it's very much time to get someone (parents, teacher, police?) to intervene. Even if you're saying this is more on the reluctant sparring partner end, they're being a major jerk and it sets off red flags that you're worried about 'escalating' the situation." CreationDate="2014-10-23T22:15:43.887" UserId="45" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8013" PostId="4456" Score="0" Text="Very informative Steve!  As I suspected there are conflicting factors. As you pointed out, the heavyweights hit harder, but lightweights &quot;go the distance&quot;.  It definitely would be interesting to know which group ends up with more &quot;punch drunks&quot;.  With regard to children, it's hard to know what to put them in given that just about every sport now seems dangerous!  Soccer used to be the &quot;safe sport&quot; for those worried about baseball (bad for ADD kids), football, or gymnastics/cheerleading (dislocated backs, etc.)  Regards, Dave" CreationDate="2014-10-23T23:52:56.033" UserId="1973" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8014" PostId="4459" Score="0" Text="+1 This is a really great description of the social dynamics." CreationDate="2014-10-24T19:36:57.790" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8015" PostId="1604" Score="0" Text="Harsh! I've found these very interesting for someone thinking about the 'validity of their information content' and 'discussions of individual martial arts and comparison between arts' which I thought was a more general view of @Tony 's question." CreationDate="2014-10-25T14:12:35.537" UserId="576" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8016" PostId="3130" Score="0" Text="What makes watching a DVD worse than watching an instructor? The instructor might have his hands full with a hall full of students, might not correct what you are doing wrongly." CreationDate="2014-10-25T23:29:24.523" UserId="4276" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8017" PostId="4460" Score="3" Text="I have no idea what you're trying to say here." CreationDate="2014-10-26T10:15:58.967" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8018" PostId="4419" Score="0" Text="That's a pretty simple but good way to put it." CreationDate="2014-10-26T20:54:12.750" UserId="1655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8019" PostId="4462" Score="6" Text="I could answer this question, but I'd rather not encourage anyone to use ankle weights. They almost always cause knee damage over time and should be avoided, even when running. There's no benefit to using them, also. If the goal is to increase the force and speed of your kick, ankle weights won't do that. The force that ankle weights apply is downward, not resisting the kick in the direction the kick is actually going, which is what you need. You're far better off working on strength training instead. Please ditch the ankle weights. You will be sorry later on if you don't." CreationDate="2014-10-27T02:12:37.393" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8020" PostId="4462" Score="1" Text="I'm talking about vertical kicks... -.- and that wasn't the question..." CreationDate="2014-10-27T03:00:07.330" UserDisplayName="user4283" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8024" PostId="3130" Score="2" Text="You can't ask a DVD a question.  You can't feel a DVD's technique.  A DVD won't hound you that you're doing it wrong.  An instructor might miss something now and again, but if he/she is a good instructor, they will eventually catch your screw-ups.  I can't imagine a martial arts class so large that a student wouldn't get at least one comment per class.  Each and every single class I've had has been worth more than a DVD." CreationDate="2014-10-27T12:17:14.517" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8026" PostId="4470" Score="1" Text="Can you explain why you don't think the &quot;outward backfist strike&quot; is exactly what it looks like: an &quot;outward backfist strike&quot;?  In other words, why are you looking for a different interpretation?  It will also help if you link to a video of the Toigye form along with the minute mark where the move first occurs." CreationDate="2014-10-27T16:26:16.457" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8027" PostId="4458" Score="0" Text="Thanks once again Dave. I'm a guy so don't need to worry about having colored gi for 5 days a month :).  Glad you told about the bleach.  Being a guy, my laundry abilities are very limited.  I always assumed one should throw all whites in a ton of bleach!" CreationDate="2014-10-27T16:37:53.667" UserId="1973" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8028" PostId="4470" Score="3" Text="What a simple question, but the answer would honestly take pages and pages to explain. I might post an answer if I get the time. In the meanwhile, please research something called, &quot;kata bunkai&quot;. Yes, it's Okinawan karate, not Taekwondo, but as it turns out, Okinawan karate is the grandfather of Taekwondo (Shotokan karate is its father). There's not a lot of good bunkai-like analysis going on in Taekwondo circles, in my opinion, and so it is recommended that you look at Okinawan karate kata bunkai instead. But even then, you'll need to understand something about classical jujitsu. Deep!" CreationDate="2014-10-27T18:13:04.270" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8029" PostId="4467" Score="0" Text="The other item I've occasionally seen, which seems more plausible, are rubber bands that attachment to the ankles. They would provide resistance in the correct direction. I have personally seen situations where people have taken out their own supporting leg with them, though, and it doesn't answer the OPs question." CreationDate="2014-10-27T18:20:34.083" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8030" PostId="4458" Score="0" Text="@Dave Cheers mate!" CreationDate="2014-10-27T20:06:09.090" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8032" PostId="4471" Score="0" Text="What you say !!" CreationDate="2014-10-28T14:19:06.347" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8033" PostId="4471" Score="1" Text="So I got curious and looked this up in Choi's Encyclopedia of Taekwondo; Grandmaster Goy Janzen is in agreement with General Choi.  The &quot;application&quot; description for this move clearly states &quot;Pubic region is the target.&quot;  I've personally never heard of that strike being considered a block, but that may just be an organizational difference." CreationDate="2014-10-28T16:18:59.460" UserId="338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8034" PostId="4471" Score="0" Text="I've seen it performed as if it were a block in many performances, which is why I added the comment. I say it's a bit of stylistic license because there's no way you're going to be ripping someone's junk off if they have pants on, ergo the move is for entertainment purposes only." CreationDate="2014-10-28T16:31:18.737" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8035" PostId="4471" Score="1" Text="Nothing in a form is just &quot;getting you in position&quot; for something. There's a good reason for everything you see. You'll figure it out once you understand kata bunkai and classical jujitsu. Forms represent answers to common, universal self-defense situations. It's mostly jujitsu techniques. There are no blocks, generally (blocking is taught in sparring, not in solo forms). And in general, when you're analyzing a form for self-defense, you will see that a move usually only has one or two possible explanations, but you need to understand jujitsu first before you can see that. In my opinion." CreationDate="2014-10-28T18:05:33.790" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8037" PostId="4476" Score="1" Text="*Just to make sure, the scary teaching has nothing to do with the instructor being female. It has to do with her being new at teaching. The same is true of men. Do I really need to say that?...*" CreationDate="2014-10-29T11:26:39.970" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8038" PostId="4473" Score="2" Text="Welcome to the site! An interesting question but it borders on asking for a list... Narrowing it by style might be better. Are there actually any examples of that happening?" CreationDate="2014-10-29T11:30:23.143" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8039" PostId="4473" Score="1" Text="Yeah, just google &quot;double knockout&quot; and you should get a list of videos and maybe other results." CreationDate="2014-10-29T14:04:20.557" UserId="4290" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8040" PostId="4473" Score="1" Text="This is not a good question unless we specify a style. The answer is, shall we say, somewhat influenced by the ruleset. A simultaneous strike in JKA pointfighting is handled differently from an actual double KO in MMA." CreationDate="2014-10-29T16:39:46.453" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8041" PostId="4473" Score="1" Text="@DaveLiepmann What do you suggest then? That I create as many different threads as there are styles? Ridiculous." CreationDate="2014-10-29T17:17:56.447" UserId="4290" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8042" PostId="4473" Score="0" Text="You're asking the answers to list every answer for every style. What about double knockouts in aikido? Boxing? Fencing? What does the question even mean in those contexts? A &quot;double knockout&quot; isn't even in the same stadium as a &quot;double touch&quot; in fencing or a &quot;simultaneous strike&quot; in kendo or...whatever happens in aikido." CreationDate="2014-10-29T18:30:50.737" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8043" PostId="4473" Score="0" Text="One thing that narrows it down - I'm only asking about knockouts. If there are no knockouts in some discipline then my question doesn't concern it. Also, I'm satisfied with Juann Strauss's answer." CreationDate="2014-10-29T18:36:12.947" UserId="4290" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8044" PostId="4474" Score="1" Text="&quot;it feels like a responsibility more than a sport.&quot; As a karataka, I view karate as a responsibility and not a sport." CreationDate="2014-10-29T19:43:00.253" UserId="3124" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8045" PostId="4473" Score="5" Text="Without a specific style this question is too vague." CreationDate="2014-10-29T19:47:33.323" UserId="3124" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8047" PostId="4479" Score="0" Text="I'm 16, and just got my 1st dan.  I think this new instructor is here to stay.  She is the only other black belt who regularly go there, so running a class of 15 students with one black belt is hard.  Either way, i still pay a monthly fee, even though i haven't learned any of my material for 2nd dan yet.  I dont care about money, but it doesnt feel right that im the one who basically runs the show, and am still paying the same amount ive always paid." CreationDate="2014-10-30T01:56:03.210" UserId="1655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8048" PostId="4479" Score="2" Text="Ah, at age 16 you are in your prime. No joke. This is your time to work hard and go far. As for paying for classes and yet being forced to just teach and never learn (if that's what you're doing), then that is a raw deal. Black belts do a lot of assistant instructing. It's part of your training to learn how to lead a class. But, that should not be the only thing you're doing. You need to keep making progress yourself. It's give and take. When it's just take, you need to re-negotiate with the instructor. Sit down in private and talk about it with her." CreationDate="2014-10-30T03:26:39.510" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8049" PostId="4479" Score="1" Text="I'm hardly being forced, I love doing it, and I know all color belt material perfectly, its just i never get a chance to learn my stuff.  I will have a talk. Thank you." CreationDate="2014-10-30T03:31:52.727" UserId="1655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8052" PostId="4481" Score="2" Text="+1 this is a really solid question! Excellent research and links here." CreationDate="2014-10-30T21:25:24.683" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8053" PostId="4438" Score="1" Text="This is always a very subjective question. Everyone will have their own opinions based on their own experience." CreationDate="2014-10-31T11:18:44.440" UserId="1135" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8054" PostId="4481" Score="2" Text="What a fantastic technique." CreationDate="2014-10-31T11:28:47.423" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8056" PostId="4482" Score="2" Text="This is my shot. Comments, corrections, congratulations and constructive criticism are clearly welcome." CreationDate="2014-10-31T15:22:54.723" UserId="3234" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8057" PostId="4467" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan: we use rubber bands for kyokushin training - mae geri, mawashi geri, hiza geri (front, turning/roundhouse, knee) - but it's always someone sitting a few metres behind you holding the other end...." CreationDate="2014-11-02T10:47:00.110" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8064" PostId="4485" Score="0" Text="This is just a guess: Might it be an attempt to explain a mystical force as a manifestation of physical properties?..." CreationDate="2014-11-05T09:07:03.870" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8065" PostId="4485" Score="1" Text="I find it interesting that the six harmonies are entirely translated from the original Chinese...except for this word. What word was used for heart? Intention? Movement? I suspect that putting the question of `qi` in context with the other words in this text would help tremendously in slashing through metaphor and translation issues." CreationDate="2014-11-05T09:47:52.217" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8066" PostId="4485" Score="1" Text="@DaveLiepmann - From the link, heart is xin, mind is yi. The formula &quot;xin-yi, yi-qi, qi-li&quot; ( a mnemonic for the three internal harmonies) I think is pretty widespread and I heard it before I'd heard of the neijia list." CreationDate="2014-11-05T11:17:47.240" UserId="1326" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8067" PostId="4485" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion - There's no doubt the usage of qi in Chinese texts encompasses mystical usages, e.g. the daoist creation myth, but also that it is used descriptively, if unscientifically.  Sigman obviously has a more empirical perspective than Longbang, the C18th gentleman-merchant, but neither are mystics." CreationDate="2014-11-05T11:27:09.310" UserId="1326" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8068" PostId="4485" Score="0" Text="I don't know what dai longbang meant by it, but chi means &quot;breath&quot;, or alternatively energy, not in the sense of &quot;hadoukens&quot;, but as in &quot;I feel good today, I have a lot of energy.&quot;  Looking at the character, it is a pictograph of rice in a pot giving off steam, and so could also mean food-energy." CreationDate="2014-11-05T12:15:55.820" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8073" PostId="4489" Score="0" Text="&quot;There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your \[Science\].&quot;" CreationDate="2014-11-06T15:08:24.123" UserId="562" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8075" PostId="4490" Score="1" Text="People like Sigman interpret  Longbang in a way that excludes external martial arts from following the six harmonies.  So they mean something more specific than &quot;performing movement in the correct way&quot;, which is common to any traditional martial art.  In particular, the &quot;chi harmonizes with the movement&quot; is understood to mean something like all the movements are driven by one of the core jings of the internal martial arts.  The way you talk about chi is not related to the way the word is specifically used in the six harmonies mnemonic, which is what I was after with the new question." CreationDate="2014-11-07T08:39:48.023" UserId="1326" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8076" PostId="4490" Score="1" Text="This is obviously at least partly a problem with my question.  I'm not asking about what chi means in general, or what an internal martial art is, but more along the lines of: what is it that makes modern practitioners of the martial arts sure that they are applying the same concept found in the classics?" CreationDate="2014-11-07T08:42:00.450" UserId="1326" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8078" PostId="4490" Score="0" Text="I've put some further comments on my question: I can hope that I haven't made things even less clear..." CreationDate="2014-11-07T18:16:36.140" UserId="1326" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8080" PostId="4485" Score="1" Text="You've stated a lot of things in this question, but it isn't clear to me what the question is.  Does the title of the question still even fit what you're trying to ask?  Try writing some sentences that end in a question mark." CreationDate="2014-11-07T19:53:58.103" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8081" PostId="4400" Score="0" Text="Just a generalization, but it seems to me, that a young karate person is overconfident.  I think this passes, after about five years of it, but they feel like they can do more than they can.  My tkd instructor got jumped by three guys at 2 in the morning.  All three made a trip to the hospital.  Maybe the real answer is: whoever has better instincts, reflexes, training, and experience.  Martial arts are more on the theory side, while boxing has more of simpler moves drilled into your head.  Martial artist know a lot of moves, but have they practiced them to the point of a real life situation?" CreationDate="2014-11-08T06:00:54.217" UserId="1655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8082" PostId="4400" Score="0" Text="Whether it's boxing, karate, or baritsu, there are great instructors, awful instructors, and any number of gradations in between. Same is true of martial arts schools and training partners." CreationDate="2014-11-08T04:00:31.620" UserId="4306" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8084" PostId="4491" Score="0" Text="Osu! thanks for the input. whats the difference between jabs and hitting with speed?" CreationDate="2014-11-09T02:09:46.977" UserId="4270" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8085" PostId="4412" Score="0" Text="[This video](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr2StCdq4M0)  highlighting the use of kyokushin's spinning sacrifice kick has what looks like a few examples of its use in muay Thai, including at least one where it looks like it starts from a kick catch." CreationDate="2014-11-09T08:06:50.910" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8086" PostId="4491" Score="0" Text="No problem. &#xA;The difference with hitting with multiple jabs instead of switching arms betweed each hits will help you developp speed with the same arm, making it faster rather than just speed when switching arms.  &#xA;&#xA;It works on your explosiveness using the same muscle, thus allowing you to be faster when you'll switch techniques ( jab, punch hook for example)" CreationDate="2014-11-09T15:07:06.033" UserId="4305" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8087" PostId="4412" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann, awesome link, never knew about that kick." CreationDate="2014-11-10T12:22:51.613" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8088" PostId="4501" Score="1" Text="Noooo! Don't select an answer yet! :D Regardless of what you do, let's wait a few days for some other input here." CreationDate="2014-11-10T14:09:56.567" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8089" PostId="4502" Score="1" Text="I am not sure about their egos, but the cameraderie is quite rare amongst them." CreationDate="2014-11-10T16:58:48.043" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8091" PostId="4485" Score="0" Text="@TheWudangKid - There are two questions in the body that match the question in the title, the first being a restatement and the second suggesting kinds of answer.  But it might make sense to rewrite the question to separate out background (useful, I think, to those who never spent time talking jing) from a shorter statement of the problem and a clearer explanation of why the question expects different answers to the other chi question.  Not today, though..." CreationDate="2014-11-11T08:17:01.997" UserId="1326" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8092" PostId="4503" Score="7" Text="+1 for `lack of respect for your request to go lighter` - without mutual respect this will never work, you will never reach your potential there or be happy" CreationDate="2014-11-11T10:20:37.600" UserId="4323" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8093" PostId="4500" Score="3" Text="Really reminds me of the gym of the bad guys in Karate Kid... listen to Jonathan!" CreationDate="2014-11-11T11:56:28.730" UserId="4324" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8094" PostId="4507" Score="3" Text="-1 for chiropractors as they are quacks, [Edzard Enst](http://edzardernst.com/2014/11/seven-things-to-remember-when-you-next-consult-a-chiropractor/)" CreationDate="2014-11-12T08:16:10.590" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8095" PostId="4507" Score="0" Text="There's chiropractors who claim to fix organ damage and require people to get adjustments every week - sure, that's a quack.  There's also chiros who basically focus on minor resets of bones followed by PT to strengthen your muscles to keep things in place.  Mostly, GP doctors don't have a lot of training in muscle/bone issues. Bruising pain doesn't last a month and onward.  OP needs to find someone who does have some related skill and can figure out the real problem." CreationDate="2014-11-12T14:36:29.797" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8096" PostId="2428" Score="1" Text="@Trevoke - You need to lighten up. &quot;krotty&quot; has been an inside joke since I've been in martial arts (30 years now), as has fancy pajamas." CreationDate="2014-11-12T19:55:17.847" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8097" PostId="2428" Score="1" Text="The problem with inside joke is that you have to be inside to get them. Inside jokes diminish the size of the audience that can find this answer valuable." CreationDate="2014-11-12T20:04:41.857" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8098" PostId="4507" Score="2" Text="Chiropractors aren't trained in PT, generally (unless they're actually licensed PT's). Though, they often try to treat their patients with some pseudo-PT they believe they're qualified to do. See a qualified PT for PT, not a chiropractor. As for chiropractic practice (the bone stuff), that's bogus also. That clicking you hear is the same thing that happens when you crack your knuckles. It's placebo. It makes you think something is happening. It's not. The alignment of the spine or joints does not change after chiropractic manipulation. If it did, you should be very worried." CreationDate="2014-11-12T22:10:16.087" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8099" PostId="4507" Score="2" Text="Thanks for clarifying.  I'll remove chiros and include some better details in my answer." CreationDate="2014-11-12T22:54:23.833" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8100" PostId="4515" Score="1" Text="How's your diet?" CreationDate="2014-11-13T18:34:13.977" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8101" PostId="4515" Score="0" Text="Well, I think my diet is pretty good but then folks that are busy gulping down mountain dew and chocolate probably say the same thing!  Seriously, I eat 3 meals a day, meat with at least one of those meals.  I don't care for milk, but I eat yogurt and cheese and try for 5 servings of fruit/vegetable per day (currently almost all tangerines since our tree is bloom).  2 glasses of red wine most days with dinner.  I'm 5'9&quot; and &lt; 145 lbs so definitely not fat.  See also my edits at end of question.  Thanks for the quick comments.  I'm hoping to be &quot;good enough&quot; for Saturday (next class for me!)." CreationDate="2014-11-13T20:05:47.947" UserId="1973" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8103" PostId="4520" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the video.  I'll study it some more.  I notice this seems yet another way to do it.  The folks at my gym tend to wrap in such a way that the inner palm is open.  I'm told this is to allow for sweat and keeping the hand cool." CreationDate="2014-11-14T18:14:10.550" UserId="1973" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8104" PostId="4522" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the tips Tony!  I would add to your comments that not only &quot;can't form as tight a fist&quot;, but you can't form a fist at all.  I've been wondering lately if this is part of the problem.  Perhaps I'll post a separate thread with pictures of my gloves and see what folks say.  I have started to do pushups, and I'm taking some time off so hopefully that will help.  You'll be glad to know I'm taking it easy on the programming too.  I do C#, not C++ :)" CreationDate="2014-11-16T14:37:40.150" UserId="1973" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8107" PostId="4514" Score="0" Text="This is a video with a transcript http://www.howcast.com/videos/505837-How-to-Do-Yonkyo-Aikido-Lessons  In the transcript they discuss how to affect the nerves in the arm.  Might help." CreationDate="2014-11-17T12:11:53.067" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8108" PostId="4523" Score="2" Text="+1 for the comment that adrenalin will nullify it in real life. It's true. Pinpoint accuracy and fine motor skills will not happen in real life. In fact, trying to grab a flailing hand in real life doesn't generally go very well. It only seems to work in training and when you're semi-comfortable trying things with friends spontaneously. I thought long and hard about how best to apply Aikido technique. My feeling is that the element of surprise is absolutely vital to ensuring it &quot;works&quot;. You can't let on what you're doing. They shouldn't even notice you going for their hand/wrist. My opinion." CreationDate="2014-11-17T18:24:52.057" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8109" PostId="4528" Score="1" Text="Welcome to the site. Generally we do not do well with localised questions. However, I believe this one is one of the few good ones." CreationDate="2014-11-18T07:42:37.387" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8110" PostId="4528" Score="0" Text="I edited your post slightly to make it a little more clear. Let me know if I erred." CreationDate="2014-11-18T07:45:47.547" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8111" PostId="4528" Score="0" Text="Finally, not an answer at all but someone in a very similar position as yourself wrote a book about his experience: [Matthew Polly's American Shaolin](http://www.amazon.co.uk/American-Shaolin-Become-Kungfu-Master/dp/0349120153/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1416296834&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=american+shaolin). While the name and cover are kitsch, the book is good." CreationDate="2014-11-18T07:49:26.597" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8115" PostId="4536" Score="4" Text="I wrote this answer about head hits earlier this year, also from someone asking about kickboxing. Let me know if this answers your question: http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/998/how-bad-is-kickboxing-for-your-brain/2602#2602" CreationDate="2014-11-19T08:37:19.807" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8116" PostId="4531" Score="0" Text="What's your carb intake? You only mention greens, meat, and supplements." CreationDate="2014-11-19T11:38:38.487" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8117" PostId="4528" Score="1" Text="I have removed the links you left as they did not add any value to the question, and this is not a place for collecting links to offsite resources." CreationDate="2014-11-19T12:09:33.533" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8118" PostId="4532" Score="9" Text="&quot;Suddenly we are told we can't do that.&quot;  By who?  Why not? Should you care?" CreationDate="2014-11-19T12:33:44.343" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8119" PostId="4533" Score="2" Text="Cheesy, yes, but not bad for an old guy.  &quot;On Earth&quot; &lt;hits you in the groin&gt; &quot;As it is in heaven&quot; &lt;pokes you in the eye&gt; lmao" CreationDate="2014-11-19T13:55:51.083" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8120" PostId="4538" Score="0" Text="Your apparent opinions of Aikido and my experience of it are really really light years apart... ^_~" CreationDate="2014-11-19T14:09:13.090" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8122" PostId="4538" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion, What part specifically?" CreationDate="2014-11-19T14:25:38.480" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8123" PostId="4538" Score="1" Text="Both Yoshinkan and Shodokan Aikido are aimed at young (and very) fit people: the training can be extremely  hard indeed. Break falls (as you say) are hard and take a while to become second nature but before they are, you cannot safely practice. As for the non-violent resolution to conflict, any Aikido technique will leave someone who does not know how to escape safely from it in a lot of pain and potentially broken. I've trained with LEO and military personnel who used Aikido in the field. None consider it improper technique if their attacker was hurt if none excessive force was used." CreationDate="2014-11-19T14:59:23.723" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8124" PostId="4538" Score="0" Text="*nod* I don't see any conflict between what you said and what I said about breakfalls.  It seems like the main issue is non-violence.  When I mention non-violence, I'm talking about Ueshiba's words and teachings.  I'm well aware that not all or even most dojos conform to this teaching, which I suppose I should have said." CreationDate="2014-11-19T15:02:38.690" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8125" PostId="4538" Score="0" Text="Of course, some styles of Aikido buy-in the whole mystical aspect of the way of harmony. Some even reject anything that is not &quot;pure&quot; -- whatever that is for them. For example: competitions are anathema to Aikido.  Well, no, you can have competitions in Aikido..." CreationDate="2014-11-19T15:03:10.780" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8127" PostId="4538" Score="0" Text="Ueshiba's opinion of Aikido shifted massively during his lifetime.  In addition his actions sometimes were not in accord to his words. But we are getting off topic... ^_~" CreationDate="2014-11-19T15:05:30.500" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8129" PostId="4538" Score="0" Text="^_~ You are most welcome!" CreationDate="2014-11-19T15:07:41.657" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8130" PostId="4538" Score="0" Text="Oh hey, I didn't consider Aikido. But yes, that certainly qualifies as an art that goes out of its way to end conflicts non-violently. Yes, there's a lot of opportunity within Aikido to hurt someone, but every Aikido school I've been to is about control and doing the least harm. Anyway, the author of the question indicated he was primarily interested in karate or something like karate. Aikido definitely does not qualify. But maybe the author would reconsider it." CreationDate="2014-11-19T17:31:18.300" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8131" PostId="4536" Score="3" Text="I look forward to reading the answers to your question.  In the meantime, you might find this question (I wrote) and its answers interesting.  It concerns concussions and boxing:  http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/4455/which-will-results-in-more-brain-damage-being-a-heavy-weight-or-lightweight-box" CreationDate="2014-11-19T17:58:47.053" UserId="1973" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8132" PostId="4538" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand, I can see now that my answer may be inappropriate, as the OP does specifically ask for Karate styles.  The question I was answering (not the one asked) was &quot;what are some less violent styles for older people, only I don't like Tai Chi&quot;" CreationDate="2014-11-19T19:46:22.193" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8133" PostId="4538" Score="1" Text="Yup. Maybe the original poster did not mean that the only choices had to be something like karate, or maybe he'll reconsider. Aikido seems like a perfect alternative to me." CreationDate="2014-11-19T20:09:55.820" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8140" PostId="4543" Score="2" Text="Welcome to the site.  Could you define what you men by &quot;better&quot;?  What are your criterion?" CreationDate="2014-11-20T11:01:40.763" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8141" PostId="4534" Score="0" Text="Sigh.... Lactic acid is a fuel, and is NOT responsible for DOMS. I'd also be interested in your reference for muscle spindles getting &quot;stuck&quot; in shortened positions." CreationDate="2014-11-20T15:14:27.830" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8142" PostId="4534" Score="0" Text="Sensory fibers in the muscle spindles measure the rate of change in muscle length - to do so, they themselves have a minor amount of contraction in order to have tension to measure that difference. When you leave muscles at a resting state, these fibers will shorten to take that as the &quot;normal&quot; length and fire signals when the rate changes quickly.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_spindle#Sensitivity_modification  Also note this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_spindle#mediaviewer/File:Fusimotor_action.jpg" CreationDate="2014-11-20T17:14:35.437" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8143" PostId="4534" Score="0" Text="The second example in the picture, is effectively where the fibers return to after a muscle is left in a given state long enough - the afferent firing signals go to &quot;this is neutral&quot; rather than high or low.  In kinesiology and much of PT this is used to help get lasting posture changes usually with around 30 second holds to reset the spindle rates." CreationDate="2014-11-20T17:20:09.787" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8144" PostId="4534" Score="0" Text="A rate of change to a certain level produces the &quot;braking action&quot; I've noted: &quot;The reflexly evoked activity in the alpha motoneurons is then transmitted via their efferent axons to the extrafusal fibers of the muscle, which generate force and thereby resist the stretch. &quot; and above that, when it finally goes beyond that, produces the clasp knife response of a complete deactivation of the muscles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clasp-knife_response   The former produces muscle tears, the latter complete destabilization." CreationDate="2014-11-20T17:23:01.567" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8145" PostId="4534" Score="0" Text="And, of specific interest to martial arts is that this is the neurology that allows for the trick where you pull/push in one direction then quickly go in the other direction and a person is unable to change force quick enough - the reciprocal inhibition created by those same muscle spindles makes it impossible physiologically to 'turn on' those same muscles.  This happens at the spinal column so there's no conscious choice in the matter.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocal_inhibition" CreationDate="2014-11-20T17:25:24.570" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8146" PostId="4534" Score="0" Text="If you want the exact chemical reactions along the spindle pathways and how that affects calcium resistance etc. you'll have to do the work yourself.  I studied up to the level of functionality for sports therapy not for the level of cellular medicine." CreationDate="2014-11-20T17:39:34.313" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8147" PostId="4515" Score="0" Text="Thanks for all the great answers.  I can only pick one unfortunately.  My wrist are feeling better.  Elbows still sore but getting better and I'm working on not over extending them." CreationDate="2014-11-20T17:57:11.117" UserId="1973" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8148" PostId="4516" Score="0" Text="I was hoping for more answers.  Surely there are more videos out there?  I searched youtube to no avail.  I would have thought that this is a common request (various ways to put on wraps)." CreationDate="2014-11-20T17:58:23.283" UserId="1973" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8149" PostId="4534" Score="0" Text="Finally found a decent layman's book: http://books.google.com/books?id=iJjI6yDNmr8C&amp;printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false  Pg. 176 goes into muscle spindle adaptation to length , pg. 178-9 under Tendon Organ talks about the adaptation of the joint receptors.  &quot;...the activity of the muscle spindle depends on the muscle length and not the tension&quot; - aka it measures rate of change in length, regardless of whether the muscle is active, or in a resting state.  Too fast of a change from the expected position, stretch reflex is activated." CreationDate="2014-11-20T18:14:43.323" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8150" PostId="4534" Score="1" Text="Yes, I'm aware of that effect, and I blame that for assisting with my achilles rupture. I guess what I was having trouble with was the &quot;stuck&quot; nomenclature, as they don't really stick, they readjust their internal thermostat so to speak." CreationDate="2014-11-20T19:09:50.903" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8151" PostId="4534" Score="0" Text="Yes, I'm trying to give people a layman's version. Here's the gross effect: http://www.gustrength.com/muscles:adaptive-shortening  and here's a good video on the science side of what I was explaining https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obM1uHucAbM  (I have to remember more and more info is showing up on youtube these days...)" CreationDate="2014-11-20T19:32:59.470" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8152" PostId="116" Score="0" Text="Just look at the EXIF data ;-)" CreationDate="2014-11-22T11:57:57.433" UserId="494" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8153" PostId="4548" Score="0" Text="Unfortunately you need to concentrate on the *defense* not the *avoidance* - in a vast majority of cases avoidance is not an option because the victim has been &quot;selected&quot; or targeted. While I agree that some techniques are a waste of time of just ineffective, you must teach them something other than just avoidance." CreationDate="2014-11-24T21:43:25.137" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8154" PostId="4548" Score="0" Text="Which is why the second paragraph is there." CreationDate="2014-11-25T07:05:22.783" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8155" PostId="4536" Score="2" Text="It can't be more than sports like Rugby, or american football." CreationDate="2014-11-25T12:32:21.000" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8157" PostId="4550" Score="2" Text="[Jack Slack's recent article about kick catches](http://fightland.vice.com/blog/jack-slack-the-art-of-catching-the-kick) doesn't address low kicks but might be good related reading." CreationDate="2014-11-25T13:36:06.697" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8158" PostId="4553" Score="0" Text="Also consider that you have chosen two separate blocks, rather than comparing the same block between styles. In my variant of TKD, my low block chamber has my blocking fist on my opposite shoulder, with my block elbow pointing out and down from my body, not wrapped around my neck. Our inner forearm block (Which matches the middle block in your video) chambers in front in the same fashion as the video." CreationDate="2014-11-25T17:29:51.280" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8159" PostId="4553" Score="0" Text="You can also consider that many styles teach overemphasized chambers to emphasize it, as many many students doesn't do things as far/tight/extended as they think they do." CreationDate="2014-11-25T17:30:35.560" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8160" PostId="4553" Score="0" Text="@JohnP, over-emphasis was considered, but relates to teaching body mechanics moreso than application.  The final question is as to whether the over-emphasis that results in neck wrapping is combatively feasible as &quot;bunkai&quot;." CreationDate="2014-11-25T17:42:22.403" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8161" PostId="4553" Score="0" Text="Also, interesting that your TKD is closer to Shotokan style.  What branch?" CreationDate="2014-11-25T17:42:56.150" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8162" PostId="4553" Score="0" Text="ATA. Some of our strikes do wrap as you mention, but the blocks aren't quite as emphasized as the picture you show (With an atrocious front stance btw), and many do chamber out in front. I started in Shotokan originally, and I had a much easier time adapting to arm/hand techniques than I did to stance differences." CreationDate="2014-11-25T19:08:35.523" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8165" PostId="4551" Score="0" Text="I reckon it's relevant enough not to merit a downvote." CreationDate="2014-11-26T11:03:17.823" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8167" PostId="4551" Score="0" Text="Thanks @JuannStrauss. Dave is right - my original answer was written at about 0200 my time and was a bit vague." CreationDate="2014-11-26T12:03:06.723" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8168" PostId="4514" Score="0" Text="I recommend you Shoji Nishio's video series. You can find it on AikidoJournal.com or fragments on YouTube. Nishio sensei explains some key points well." CreationDate="2014-11-14T10:15:26.887" UserId="4336" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8169" PostId="907" Score="1" Text="Axe kicks, Spin heel kick, and spinning back kick's origin is in Taekkyun." CreationDate="2014-10-22T22:04:40.507" UserDisplayName="user4272" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8170" PostId="4551" Score="0" Text="Throwing a punch from the opposite side of a kick catch is a bread-and-butter san shou technique. It can cause an easy knockdown if it's done quickly enough that the kicker doesn't have time to re-establish balance. It's even in the forms! :D [This video shows a rather classic kick catch-&gt;punch-&gt; trip sequence](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c0HNct90tY)." CreationDate="2014-11-26T14:14:29.757" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8171" PostId="4555" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site.  This is an interesting question!" CreationDate="2014-11-26T16:27:35.650" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8172" PostId="4556" Score="0" Text="Wonderful answer. I can confirm from my experience that desensitising lowers the fear you have. Don't overdo it and it will get better over time." CreationDate="2014-11-26T21:22:35.177" UserId="633" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8175" PostId="4553" Score="2" Text="&quot;TKD is a direct descendant of Shotokan Karate&quot; is a simplification. Some of the Kwans practiced Shotokan, others different Karate styles, some were also influenced by chinese arts." CreationDate="2014-11-27T09:33:06.823" UserId="79" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8176" PostId="4557" Score="0" Text="The past year, we have regularly trained without kicks. I'm pretty sure they want us to first learn proper foot work and kick technique before throwing us into full on sparring with kicks, like how they sometimes let us spar with just chain punches, then chain punches with bong sau or lap sau, etc. instead of having us beginners widly flailing our arms and legs in a frenzy/panic, not knowing what to do. :)  &#xA;  &#xA;Thanks for your answer!" CreationDate="2014-11-27T18:57:24.227" UserId="4379" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8177" PostId="4557" Score="0" Text="*&quot;instead of having us beginners widly flailing our arms and legs in a frenzy/panic, not knowing what to do&quot;* —- isn't this exactly what your question suggests their approach has in fact caused? 'Learning' footwork and kicking technique for a year without sparring (or only sparring with an extremely limited set of techniques, like chain punches/bong sau/lap sau) is like 'learning' to swim by moving your arms standing next to the pool." CreationDate="2014-11-27T20:10:57.710" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8178" PostId="4556" Score="0" Text="Accepted for usefulness. We do practice kicks on each other's legs. Moving back to avoid the kick tends to hurt more and we are instructed to move the leg into the kick a bit instead. It feels counter-intuitive, but over time I suppose I'll get better at it." CreationDate="2014-11-27T21:49:31.283" UserId="4379" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8179" PostId="4557" Score="0" Text="I tend to increase my &quot;flailing wildly in a frenzy/panic&quot; (it's a bit of an overreaction, of course :)) when I get confused or overwhelmed, which happens when I don't know what to do. Focusing on six different techniques that I am still struggling with exacerbates this, I've found, so I think I know what they are trying to do. I think it's about figuring out different applications in different situations for the techniques yourself." CreationDate="2014-11-27T21:56:18.310" UserId="4379" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8180" PostId="4560" Score="1" Text="Another useful answer. I am aware of the role the mind has in how we experience and perceive things and how much of a role that actually is. I am in fact afraid of spiders; they are fascinating animals, but the response of my mind is automatic and immediate when it decides there is one near--even when there isn't. These sorts of automatic (and often incorrect) responses are frustrating and, as you said, potentially dangerous.  &#xA;Will keep training." CreationDate="2014-11-27T22:14:39.687" UserId="4379" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8182" PostId="4561" Score="0" Text="Is there a specific gym with specifically MMA classes near you?" CreationDate="2014-11-28T09:00:10.417" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8184" PostId="4561" Score="0" Text="Yes I have a MMA gym near by , currently i live in singapore :)" CreationDate="2014-11-29T07:26:51.627" UserId="899" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8185" PostId="4574" Score="1" Text="So how do they justify a two-beat movement as a defense to a one-beat attack (i.e. a punch)?  It is simply too slow to be effective.  If the answer is &quot;you wouldn't do it like that in a fight&quot; then why train any other way than the way you expect to use it?  Analyzing the block as boonhae (application) at least explains why it is a two-beat movement." CreationDate="2014-12-01T13:16:57.267" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8186" PostId="4574" Score="0" Text="Also, the &quot;arms around the neck&quot; chamber is common to many blocks in the TKD I do.  This may be a stylistic difference." CreationDate="2014-12-01T13:20:45.900" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8187" PostId="4574" Score="0" Text="I personally tell my students that it's like the Karate Kid, you are training complex actions and interactions in muscles in an exaggerated way to enable them to be performed in a fast way in a real situation. The reason one trains in a different way to the &quot;way you expect to use it&quot; is that people have different expectations of what they are going to do with their techniques.  Some are here purely for their health or fitness, some are at Taekwondo for the sport side and yes, some are for self defence. So, for those doing it for health having larger movements is better." CreationDate="2014-12-01T13:54:50.677" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8188" PostId="4574" Score="0" Text="Thanks for weighing in.  I don't like it, but the possibility that the chambers were purely for teaching body mechanics was always on the table and still is.  Just seems like bad MA design to me." CreationDate="2014-12-01T14:39:44.490" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8189" PostId="4576" Score="3" Text="It would be extremely beneficial for you to discuss why/how the body mechanics of TKD kicks make them harder/better/faster/stronger than Karate, with emphasis on the round kicks being discussed." CreationDate="2014-12-01T15:45:19.200" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8191" PostId="538" Score="2" Text="빠른 발 is normally called &quot;fast kick&quot; in English.  This is also known in Korean as 발 붙여차기 or &quot;foot pasting kick&quot;.  That and 커트발 (&quot;cut foot&quot; or &quot;cut kick&quot;) are the staples of modern Taekwondo sport competition." CreationDate="2014-12-01T20:14:40.860" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8192" PostId="4576" Score="2" Text="Updated with the requested info." CreationDate="2014-12-02T07:08:38.830" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8193" PostId="4561" Score="0" Text="A lot of times it comes down to what are you realistically able to fit into your schedule.  How far the gyms are away from you plays a significant factor.  Start by trying each class, then assessing which ones you like and could reasonably attend given your lifestyle.  You *are* in Singapore, so maybe distance isn't that huge a deal, but I'm thinking of other people reading this question as well." CreationDate="2014-12-02T12:48:30.380" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8194" PostId="1854" Score="0" Text="Confucius say: man with toe jam must wash feet." CreationDate="2014-12-02T18:33:46.970" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8195" PostId="4574" Score="1" Text="You would be surprised how much time you have to perform a proper block when you're in a self-defense situation against a non-martial artist. I was in a fight with a guy once after I had had 3 glasses of wine and I could block each and every one of his punches without worrying about it. The angrier someone is, the slower he moves and the longer his swings. While a proper block won't work in competition, it's pretty effective in the stereotypical bar fight. They also look cool to the ladies [citation needed]." CreationDate="2014-12-03T08:22:17.773" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8196" PostId="4580" Score="1" Text="I solved a similar problem by quitting karate and competing in tournaments where such corrupt judging is harder. In my case it was judo and BJJ, but boxing and kickboxing, where you actually hit, knock out, and knock down the opponent, would work too. I don't see how asking the judge is going to make anything better." CreationDate="2014-12-03T21:42:46.250" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8197" PostId="4580" Score="0" Text="My guess is that if I were to challenge him, I would be backed by the entire attending crowd. He would be forced to give me a straight answer. I just want to know how to do so without being a jerk or making myself angrier with him. But yeah, I'm gonna join BJJ. I hope to do both." CreationDate="2014-12-03T21:46:34.743" UserId="4254" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8198" PostId="4578" Score="0" Text="what is the difference between weaving and slipping? (not sure if I know precisely what they are, haven't heard of them in practice)" CreationDate="2014-12-04T11:43:10.123" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8199" PostId="4583" Score="0" Text="It wasn't clear from his question that he was on a team." CreationDate="2014-12-04T12:15:06.763" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8200" PostId="4580" Score="5" Text="I'm just trying to wrap my head around a sport where one judge can overrule four other judges...." CreationDate="2014-12-04T12:16:50.587" UserId="4267" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8201" PostId="4578" Score="2" Text="@Vass Slipping is turning and moving laterally out of the way of a punch, the bob+weave is ducking under and coming back up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing_styles_and_technique#Defense" CreationDate="2014-12-04T12:56:16.817" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8202" PostId="4583" Score="0" Text="@TheWudangKid: That is true... Answer edited." CreationDate="2014-12-04T13:00:30.647" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8203" PostId="4582" Score="1" Text="`Life is pain, highness. Anyone who says differently is selling something.` -- **William Goldman**." CreationDate="2014-12-04T15:17:36.500" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8204" PostId="4582" Score="0" Text="Man that sucks. mine wasn't that bad, I just barely lost a place on the podium." CreationDate="2014-12-04T15:36:01.317" UserId="4254" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8205" PostId="4583" Score="0" Text="Yeah, my captain pretty much said that the kid worked hard, even though he didn't (fairly) win, so I should let it go and congratulate him. I did but it's bugging me now that I know the judges will be the same as last year. I just want to avoid a repeat." CreationDate="2014-12-04T15:38:30.430" UserId="4254" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8206" PostId="4582" Score="0" Text="It's not a contest ;) I was just saying that you're looking at a lot of trouble even if you win your appeal." CreationDate="2014-12-05T07:03:48.263" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8207" PostId="62" Score="1" Text="I'd disagree with &quot;To learn more about the history of Taekwondo read A killing Art by Alex Gillis&quot; - I've always found that book to be a bit sensationalist rather than a reference book." CreationDate="2014-12-07T20:36:52.977" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8209" PostId="3071" Score="0" Text="While there are some talented martial artists on bullshido, take some of what they say/do with a grain of salt. Many there are of the opinion that if you don't sit on your opponent mashing his face into the pavement, your martial art isn't worth it." CreationDate="2014-12-08T20:43:21.203" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8210" PostId="4572" Score="1" Text="+1. Add to this that WTF is not about to risk upsetting the powers that be in the Olympic committee. If you take away the Olympics, the WTF becomes just another martial art. There were already concerns about the number of knockouts/injuries in Olympic TKD bouts, I VERY much doubt that they would introduce higher levels of potential injury." CreationDate="2014-12-08T20:45:01.193" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8211" PostId="3118" Score="1" Text="@SeanDuggan - Some of it is marketing, but if you look at the meaning for each belt, it fits in. ATA compares the colored belt levels to the growth of a pine tree (Songahm, the ATA style, means pine tree and rock). Camouflage is the first level where light contact sparring (as opposed to one steps) is introduced, and the accompanying belt meaning is &quot;The sapling is hidden among the taller pines and must new fight its way upward&quot;. Agreed, most belt colors are arbitrary anyway. The old adage about a black belt being a really dirty white belt doesn't account for orange, blue, purple, etc. :p" CreationDate="2014-12-08T20:50:10.200" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8212" PostId="4571" Score="0" Text="I don't believe you have to be a 4th degree to conduct a colored belt test. You do (or have to bring in people) for dan testings, but I believe for colored belts you can be under 4th dan and still conduct the testing." CreationDate="2014-12-08T20:55:45.870" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8213" PostId="3120" Score="0" Text="You left out poom ranks, as well as that not all TKD associations recognize 4th dan as Master, some are higher." CreationDate="2014-12-08T20:57:29.500" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8214" PostId="3120" Score="0" Text="Yes, but a poom is not a color belt.  Not all schools have pooms.  I also stated  **my school**" CreationDate="2014-12-08T20:59:32.837" UserId="1655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8215" PostId="3120" Score="0" Text="You talk about Dan rankings, they are not color belts. And you seem to treat the Kukkiwon as the sole arbiter of belts in TKD, which is far from the case." CreationDate="2014-12-08T21:01:14.493" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8216" PostId="3120" Score="0" Text="I discussed gups. The kukkiwon is the most popular, and most recognized. I am not that familiar with other organizations, thus i opted to not mention any." CreationDate="2014-12-08T21:04:12.690" UserId="1655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8217" PostId="62" Score="0" Text="Dojo is a Japanese word.  The correct word is dojang." CreationDate="2014-12-09T20:54:05.847" UserId="1655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8218" PostId="2173" Score="0" Text="Every sentence ends with an explanation mark!  Laziness in grammar, and extremely hard to read.  It needs editing.  This isn't yahoo answers." CreationDate="2014-12-09T21:01:48.843" UserId="1655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8219" PostId="4571" Score="1" Text="It is specifically stated in the Kukkiwon promotion regulations.  [Article 20](http://www.kukkiwon.or.kr/english/examination/examination08.jsp#20)" CreationDate="2014-12-09T22:02:20.483" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8220" PostId="4571" Score="0" Text="Ah, cheers! I missed that when I was reading through yesterday." CreationDate="2014-12-09T22:30:02.637" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8221" PostId="4571" Score="0" Text="That's not to say there aren't a lot of organisations out there that let below 4th Dans perform coloured belt testing, it's just not Kukkiwon rules compliant to do so.  As my answer was specifically about Kukkiwon practices and Kup certificates &quot;registered by the kukkiwon&quot; I'm strictly limiting my answer to that." CreationDate="2014-12-10T08:39:43.527" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8222" PostId="4571" Score="0" Text="Got it. And yes, a lot of federations allow Dan ranks to promote to a dan rank two below them. (3rd to 1st, 4th to 2nd, etc.), with high ranks (4+) needing a testing panel." CreationDate="2014-12-10T14:48:54.330" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8223" PostId="4536" Score="1" Text="Have you ever had a headache, eye ache or trouble focusing your eyes after any of those hits?" CreationDate="2014-12-10T22:03:03.480" UserId="4410" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8224" PostId="4536" Score="0" Text="I don't believe so" CreationDate="2014-12-10T22:44:38.833" UserId="4352" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8225" PostId="4596" Score="4" Text="Yes, please post the video." CreationDate="2014-12-11T08:11:55.300" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8226" PostId="4596" Score="0" Text="Ok, I will make one today during/after class and post it. Also, I'm not sure if all the moves are from the original form but a good percentage of it is." CreationDate="2014-12-11T15:13:00.183" UserId="4410" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8228" PostId="4596" Score="0" Text="As Andy Jeffries states, Kukkiwon does not recognize any official weapons forms. ATA has 3 different jangh bong forms, short range, long range and windstaff. I know a WTF school locally that has two different staff forms, which is different than the WTF school I attended in Nevada." CreationDate="2014-12-11T16:47:18.763" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8230" PostId="4596" Score="0" Text="That's very interesting. I looked up some of the Jangh Bong forms but they are very different than the forms we do at the school. I tried writing up a description of the form but it was just confusing. I guess it will require me posting the video to ID this form." CreationDate="2014-12-11T16:59:09.583" UserId="4410" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8232" PostId="4596" Score="1" Text="Is it possible that the form is named different? The only &quot;chumbi&quot; form I found was an introductory one by Westerfield TKD club, but a few that suggested it was a misspelling of &quot;choon be&quot;, or the ready command." CreationDate="2014-12-11T17:05:27.083" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8234" PostId="4596" Score="0" Text="It's not a Chumbi form. I was only trying to describe what you do to get to Chumbi before you start the form." CreationDate="2014-12-11T17:30:00.890" UserId="4410" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8235" PostId="4431" Score="0" Text="This question appears to be off-topic because it is about tricking" CreationDate="2014-12-12T02:32:55.207" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8239" PostId="2384" Score="0" Text="The thing that a lot of Judoka/BJJers seem to ignore is that they feel they are doing live sparring because they are able to perform THEIR techniques FULLY and think that's better than a striking art that can't.  However, the thing often forgotten is that eye strikes and neck strikes (that aren't defended against in Judo and often BJJ, but are practiced in other martial arts) really happen and they can't be practiced live. The guy said he wanted to build self-confidence, not necessary need realistic self-defence. &quot;Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face.&quot; - Mike Tyson." CreationDate="2014-12-12T08:35:43.803" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8240" PostId="2185" Score="0" Text="I think you may have been unlucky with Hapkido, I wouldn't put that in the same category as Muay Thai at all.  In fact Hapkido has the same Hanja (chinese characters) as Aikido - google &quot;合氣道 site:en.wikipedia.org&quot; to see them both.  Hapkido is a Korean version of Aikido, adding in some more Korean kicking skills.  You're obviously not averse to striking (as Wing Chun is pretty much all striking).  So I think you may have just found an uncharacteristic Hapkido school, it's not normally brutal." CreationDate="2014-12-12T08:38:46.107" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8243" PostId="4600" Score="1" Text="That's a godan grading! Words fail me... Whatever style it is, stay as far away from it as you can!" CreationDate="2014-12-12T09:16:22.483" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8247" PostId="4600" Score="1" Text="Even though the style is rather questionable, I don't think we should revert to name-calling here. Can you please change the  question's tag?" CreationDate="2014-12-12T11:56:58.760" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8252" PostId="4600" Score="0" Text="the tag is how its tagged on the internet" CreationDate="2014-12-12T21:09:00.290" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8253" PostId="4600" Score="2" Text="@KeithNicholas - The internet has different standards than most SE sites." CreationDate="2014-12-12T22:53:52.523" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8254" PostId="4613" Score="0" Text="Great answer Dave. I certainly employ a lot of defense but I am going to make it a point to focus on it even more. I don't think that sparring 1-3 times a week in a semi-recreational semi-professional level gym is going to have any long term consequences other than becoming a better fighter, especially if I take what you said into account." CreationDate="2014-12-13T01:16:19.480" UserId="4352" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8255" PostId="4613" Score="1" Text="Great to hear! I think the same as I enjoy myself the style and the sparring, but safety of course is important. :) Have fun!" CreationDate="2014-12-13T13:37:47.930" UserId="4420" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8257" PostId="4620" Score="1" Text="When you say 'longer dadao' you talk about pudao?" CreationDate="2014-12-15T02:45:12.387" UserId="3078" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8258" PostId="4619" Score="4" Text="-1. The question is not badly formulated but its fundamental assumptions are all wrong: Without testing yourself, you have no idea whether what you have learned works." CreationDate="2014-12-15T07:51:40.200" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8260" PostId="4614" Score="0" Text="I found these two pages on Facebook. I am not able to figure out genuine one.&#xA;[Kyokushin Ifk India](https://www.facebook.com/kyokushinifk.india.9)&#xA;[Kyokushin Kai Kan India](https://www.facebook.com/kyokushinindia)" CreationDate="2014-12-15T14:10:19.870" UserDisplayName="user4430" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8261" PostId="4624" Score="2" Text="I've never heard of this. That's not to say it's not true in some organization or lineage, of course, but to my knowledge there's no fighter/instructor difference." CreationDate="2014-12-15T14:59:16.227" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8262" PostId="4624" Score="0" Text="There are some comments about it from 2010 here - http://www.jiujitsuforums.com/discussion/26540/ranking-bar-end-stripes-/p1.  However, as I said, it hasn't been talked about (anywhere I've been) recently so maybe it was a rare thing that kinda died out.  Thanks for your comment." CreationDate="2014-12-15T16:29:43.227" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8263" PostId="4624" Score="1" Text="&quot;There are special classifications for Black Belt fighters and instructors. Instructors have Black Belts with red bands and Black Belt fighters have white bands. Typically, Black Belt instructors are not allowed to promote others up to Black Belt rank until they receive their first stripe.&quot; http://www.rogergracie.com/?page_id=350  - looks like some people still do this (surprised to see such a well known source talk about it, so glad I googled it further after your answer)." CreationDate="2014-12-15T16:30:45.557" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8264" PostId="4619" Score="5" Text="If you have someone that teaches you and &quot;holds back&quot; because they think you might beat them someday, that person should not be an instructor. The primary goal for ANY instructor, and a great compliment to the instructor is when the student can outperform them." CreationDate="2014-12-15T17:09:05.627" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8266" PostId="4619" Score="0" Text="JohnP, this is not necessarily due to a character flaw in the teacher. Sometimes they hold back instruction because their teacher gave them an order to only teach those techniques to a handful of &quot;worthy&quot; students (whatever that means). It's just part of the tradition. But usually these secret techniques don't really give the student any advantage over others. They're mostly just the stuff that's considered &quot;too dangerous&quot;, so they restrict it to those students who aren't going to cause problems for the school." CreationDate="2014-12-15T18:16:49.533" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8267" PostId="4619" Score="3" Text="And usually, so called &quot;secret&quot; techniques are things that someone with a good eye for application can figure out on their own." CreationDate="2014-12-15T18:56:55.140" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8268" PostId="4624" Score="1" Text="I learn something every day, I suppose. I wonder, as you do, if they mean vale tudo/MMA fighter or just a sport competitor? I wonder how they define sport competitor—must they be currently active? Weird stuff." CreationDate="2014-12-15T21:36:55.410" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8269" PostId="4619" Score="1" Text="Let me give you an example of a bad teacher, though. I knew of a wing-chun teacher who only taught single hand chi-sao. When students asked about two hand chi-sao drills, they were told they had to wait until they were advanced enough. Normally, Wing Chun students very quickly move on to two hand chi-sao drills. But this teacher was milking his students for money, dragging out their instruction for years. According to some of his ex-students, he only taught the last remaining chi-sao drills to his top 3 students, who probably paid him a lot for the privilege." CreationDate="2014-12-15T23:31:09.203" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8271" PostId="4630" Score="2" Text="Excellent answer. The respect is evident in your tone and mannerisms. They are not going to bite your head off if you get it wrong, but they sure will be grouchy if you're not respectful. It's actually really easy to say something like *&quot;I'm sorry for asking, but I'm not sure of the correct title to call you by?&quot;*. You could almost safely bet that other people will be glad you asked because they didn't know either." CreationDate="2014-12-16T10:04:11.620" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8272" PostId="4629" Score="6" Text="It's also given to mutant rats." CreationDate="2014-12-16T15:42:45.967" UserId="4442" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8273" PostId="4636" Score="2" Text="Actually, some martial arts do hold back certain new skills as well as refinements to existing techniques. It's not just a matter of not showing dangerous stuff until they're ready. It's often done to keep a business monopoly within the family. Only family members will be taught it and won't be allowed to show it to others. Granted, the stuff isn't going to give them super powers, but it might give them enough that they can generally beat their best students. Stuff like timing a punch combo so that you're half a beat faster. You can learn it elsewhere, though, if you look." CreationDate="2014-12-16T18:53:07.883" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8276" PostId="4624" Score="0" Text="If one substitutes BJJ for &quot;soccer&quot;, it makes quite a lot of sense." CreationDate="2014-12-17T08:27:33.800" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8277" PostId="4640" Score="0" Text="Boxing and Greco-Roman wrestling do have a sport element as far as I know." CreationDate="2014-12-17T09:08:00.453" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8278" PostId="4640" Score="0" Text="Of course, but the OP seems to be looking for a discipline where the teacher wouldn't be holding back for fear of being beaten by one of his students, which seems to be his main concern. You rarely if ever have that problem in boxing or wrestling because the coach is either retired or has been nothing but a coach his entire life." CreationDate="2014-12-17T09:26:28.477" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8279" PostId="4640" Score="1" Text="Okay, slightly different reading of the question but yours is valid. ^_~" CreationDate="2014-12-17T09:32:42.427" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8280" PostId="4619" Score="4" Text="@SteveWeigand: What you describe is a text book McDojo. It sadness me to hear about those..." CreationDate="2014-12-17T09:34:28.073" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8281" PostId="4636" Score="0" Text="I've studied in a japanese dojo, and there is no &quot;family&quot; concept over there. Younger Students will leave school for the national training center in all Olympic sports. &#xA;&#xA;And of COURSE they hold back refinements to new techniques. Why would the coach try to teach you a variation if you cant even do the basic combo correctly ...&#xA;and no, doing 1 &quot;secret combo punch&quot; isnt going to makes you win. There are a couple of &quot;trick throws&quot; in judo, they arent teached and practiced at all ... because they ARE TRICKS. You dont win high level competitions with tricks." CreationDate="2014-12-17T12:25:03.783" UserId="1526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8283" PostId="4636" Score="0" Text="And i've done one of those &quot;trick throws&quot; in my career, trying to surprise my opponent. it was in the final of the Pan-Am cup. Which was the highest level of competition someone at my age could do. And I was disqualified for trying that trick throw, because it was judged too dangerous for my opponent. So I've lost my gold medal in the most important competition of my career (at that point) because I tried a &quot;secret&quot; move." CreationDate="2014-12-17T12:33:10.830" UserId="1526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8284" PostId="4636" Score="2" Text="and if you think titles and high level competitions can be won because you've learn a a &quot;secret&quot; half-a-beat faster combo punch, i'll teach you one myself. right here on this forum. Take your favorite combo of punch. Use it. ALOT. eady day you train. for months. even if it doesnt work. than, the day you face your partners in a competition ... SCREW IT UP. fake the 2nd punch. or do it faster. so fast that you dont even try to hit him.  &#xA;&#xA;You'll hit the guy doing this. Thats the &quot;Surprise&quot; and pavlov conditionning effect. and he'll say after: &quot;OMG you were holding a back a secret move ! &quot;" CreationDate="2014-12-17T12:40:42.397" UserId="1526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8285" PostId="4640" Score="2" Text="Hardly an expansive, explanatory answer. Should be a comment unless you can flesh it out some." CreationDate="2014-12-17T16:00:50.207" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8287" PostId="420" Score="0" Text="Notably, in Bak Mei the salute is a little &quot;backwards&quot; from the common salute.  In Bak Mei, the right palm sits on top of the left fist, rather than the left palm wrapping the right fist." CreationDate="2014-12-17T21:53:02.867" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8288" PostId="4614" Score="0" Text="I don't understand how it appears to be off-topic If I am trying to ask the Martial arts community If they know any trusted sources of Kyokushin Karate in India.&#xA;My action of asking a question here was after researching online and inquiring with some sources." CreationDate="2014-12-18T06:44:30.417" UserDisplayName="user4430" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8291" PostId="4640" Score="1" Text="Given the question, my answer needs no further elaboration." CreationDate="2014-12-18T09:30:54.063" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8292" PostId="4614" Score="4" Text="It reads like a &quot;where can I find X martial art in my area&quot; type question, but I can see how you might edit it to be more helpful to the community.  If you asked specifically about the three organizations you mention, and alter the wording so that it's asking for facts instead of opinions, I can see this as a viable question." CreationDate="2014-12-18T12:53:59.550" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8295" PostId="4614" Score="1" Text="To me it read like &quot;I have looked at various places in my country and cannot find a trusted source, so is there any community member who is aware of IKO 1 or IKO 2 in India ?&quot;. Note the India is not 'my area'. For your knowledge it's 7th largest country in the World. And to not have a single trusted source of International Kyokushin Karate in India is sad.&#xA;If that is the reason to down-vote my question then I humbly request to read my question carefully one more time." CreationDate="2014-12-18T21:00:03.373" UserDisplayName="user4430" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8297" PostId="4614" Score="0" Text="Okay, I did re-read your question.  I did not understand it at first. I recommend contacting the institution itself and directly asking.  This looks like a good place to start: http://www.kyokushinindia.com/" CreationDate="2014-12-18T21:21:28.403" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8300" PostId="4614" Score="0" Text="I have already contacted [kyokushinindia.com](http://www.kyokushinindia.com/) and waiting for a reply. The location of this dojo is in another province thousand miles away from my hometown and I am looking forward to relocate to that place. I have requested details of association with IKO 1, my decision to relocate is dependent on it." CreationDate="2014-12-19T11:20:26.137" UserDisplayName="user4430" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8301" PostId="4596" Score="0" Text="@JohnP I have added the video :) Sorry it took so long." CreationDate="2014-12-19T15:30:42.677" UserId="4410" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8302" PostId="4597" Score="0" Text="Thank you for the response Andy, great information. I asked at the school and no one knows the name. This form was brought over from the previous school before our current Grand Master took over. Only a hand full of us know the form." CreationDate="2014-12-19T15:34:58.817" UserId="4410" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8308" PostId="4656" Score="0" Text="the question is not how to make it working but about opinion how much do you think it loses of its strength. So summarising your answer to sth more clear is: if you are good it doesn't change anything." CreationDate="2014-12-22T19:04:54.263" UserId="4438" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8309" PostId="4656" Score="0" Text="Yes. I tend to be &quot;wordier&quot; as I like to explain my thoughts to make sure nothing is left vague or misunderstood.&#xA;&#xA;You are correct, the summary is: If you are good, it really doesn't change anything." CreationDate="2014-12-22T19:59:13.907" UserId="4435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8310" PostId="4657" Score="0" Text="I wasn't even aware of the schism that took place in 2002 until you mentioned it. It's been a long time since I trained in ITF. Well, that's sad to hear. I think the official ITF organization is the one managed under the original ITF board, which would be Chang Ung's ITF. It would probably have the most members just because they inherited the whole thing. But I know of no official member counts for any of the 3 organizations." CreationDate="2014-12-22T21:45:42.227" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8311" PostId="4656" Score="3" Text="True, Judo training would give you a pretty good idea of how to control or throw someone without a gi. To bridge the gap in your knowledge, however, you should train without a gi. Test it out. See what works and what doesn't. That's very useful knowledge that would eliminate the extra time you spend fumbling around with your grip trying to figure it out in real life. My opinion. Not sure if it's &quot;necessary&quot;, but it would definitely help prepare you." CreationDate="2014-12-22T22:01:12.297" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8312" PostId="90" Score="1" Text="This is a great legal analysis of the situation. Most of it is correct EXCEPT one thing...&#xA;&#xA;Self Defense is an affirmative defense; that has nothing to do with the assumption of innocence. You are assumed to be innocent until you are proven beyond a reasonable doubt that you attacked someone. WITH that in mind, you can setup an affirmative defense, which is in essence saying that &quot;Yes, I did attack someone, BUT there's a reason for it.&quot;&#xA;&#xA;The burden of proof is ON YOU. You need to prove self-defense not the other way around. The prosecution only have to prove you committed the crime." CreationDate="2014-12-22T23:59:42.713" UserId="4435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8313" PostId="90" Score="0" Text="@LiY You are starting to get into legal nitty gritty which will vary by country and even by state. In commonwealth based countries the legal onus is for the prosecutor to prove that it *wasn't* self defence or was excessive force. Essentially the legal onus or bias differs in each jurisdiction, the exact amount is outside the scope of this site. Basically a martial artist should look to defend themselves with the minimum necessary force, no matter the provocation or emotional level." CreationDate="2014-12-23T01:15:38.550" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8314" PostId="90" Score="2" Text="@LiY As a further development of where things are at: Australia has just introduced a new federal &quot;king hit&quot; law which mandates a minimum of 10 years imprisonment for death caused by one strike. This is a lot more than you would get if you were convicted of manslaughter (I think &quot;involuntary murder&quot; is the US equivalent), and is regardless of *how* the person died; i.e. it applies even if they hit their head on the way down (if they died of a cardiac event it might not apply). This is a tough law that makes it harder for martial artists to defend themselves in court." CreationDate="2014-12-23T01:21:55.533" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8315" PostId="4661" Score="3" Text="I used to think nipple rash/burn was a problem experienced by a few &quot;extra-sensitive&quot; people (translation: soft), until I found out that it's also a common problem amongst longer distance runners (and one acquaintance showed me his injured nipples, which is a sight I can never un-see)." CreationDate="2014-12-23T03:09:58.457" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8317" PostId="4658" Score="0" Text="I like the gi collar grab comment: I noticed also difference when applying a choke to somebody wearing or not a rash guard under the Gi. With rashguard the Gi will slide." CreationDate="2014-12-23T08:15:21.107" UserId="412" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8318" PostId="4662" Score="0" Text="Just tell about the roundhouse kick because it is delivered in many ways, sometimes by shin, ball of the foot, toes and instep..   which is most effective..?" CreationDate="2014-12-23T10:30:00.357" UserId="4465" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8320" PostId="4663" Score="1" Text="Note that this is not a general discussion site - it is a specific Q&amp;A site. This means you should ask a specific question, and we encourage specific answers. Your question is incredibly inspecific and broad, could you please re-word it?" CreationDate="2014-12-23T11:44:07.097" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8321" PostId="4663" Score="0" Text="in short I would ask what would be the best attitude to much heavier furiously attacking opponent" CreationDate="2014-12-23T11:46:35.033" UserId="4438" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8323" PostId="4662" Score="0" Text="The answers to this question directly compare versions of the round kick in karate and tkd http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/1853/mawashi-gheri-vs-dollyo-chagi/1854#1854" CreationDate="2014-12-23T12:11:40.150" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8324" PostId="4664" Score="0" Text="Osotogari on someone bigger enough? Would love to see it :-) except that i expected answer like the first part but clinch imvho wouldn't go for it" CreationDate="2014-12-23T12:27:17.237" UserId="4438" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8325" PostId="4664" Score="0" Text="It happens. The throw happens to work well with me; other throws work better for other people. But all judo throws are meant to work against bigger, stronger opponents if you get good at them." CreationDate="2014-12-23T12:38:30.437" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8326" PostId="4664" Score="0" Text="@JulianKról As for not liking the clinch...the only options here are: convince them to stop, knock them out, run, or clinch. I don't like the odds on going for the knockout. Running is kind of outside the scope of the question. Convincing them to stop by wearing them out or leg kicking them is viable, but involves a lot of risk while in the striking range." CreationDate="2014-12-23T13:37:49.730" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8327" PostId="4664" Score="0" Text="I like clinch but i woudn't go for it with someone whose only visible adventage is power" CreationDate="2014-12-23T13:43:17.443" UserId="4438" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8328" PostId="4663" Score="2" Text="Are we assuming that neither retreat nor de-escalation are options?  And are we assuming that neither side is armed, even with improvised weapons?" CreationDate="2014-12-23T17:36:05.413" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8329" PostId="4657" Score="0" Text="I do not know what organization is legitimate. Because the facts reported are changing according to sources. So I do not take sides. Anyway, it's not a choice that belongs to the students, but the teacher. Students are often not aware of all this useless politic.&#xA;&#xA;However if you are a high-level competitor. You may prefer to join the organization with the most followers." CreationDate="2014-12-23T17:44:24.050" UserId="4463" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8330" PostId="4663" Score="0" Text="No waepons! What escalation do u have in mind?" CreationDate="2014-12-23T18:05:51.993" UserId="4438" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8331" PostId="4663" Score="1" Text="De-escalation means calming the person down." CreationDate="2014-12-23T20:03:38.150" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8332" PostId="4663" Score="0" Text="this is the martial arts not a raconteurs forum, so no de-escalation option" CreationDate="2014-12-23T20:05:55.443" UserId="4438" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8333" PostId="4657" Score="2" Text="You should read up on the schism that took place between Jeff Bolt and Anthony Goh when there was a similar legality question for the USA Wushu Kung-fu Association. That happened in the mid-90's. Those that followed the letter of the law broke off to form a new president for the organization. The old president (Anthony Goh) cried foul and claimed himself to be legitimate head. To this day, Anthony Goh is president, and the splinter group has called it quits. Lesson: It's hard to splinter off and succeed, even if you're legally correct. Friendships and connections matter the most." CreationDate="2014-12-23T20:21:05.077" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8334" PostId="4663" Score="1" Text="I think TimothyAWiseman is saying that de-escalation or retreat should always be your first choice. Revert to fighting only if there are no other options." CreationDate="2014-12-24T09:37:56.493" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8335" PostId="4663" Score="2" Text="Definitely but we assume that all of that already failed. So to finish side topics: there is no police around. I'm alone, no one is watching to help, it is unable to calm him down, no animals involed and no crying babies!" CreationDate="2014-12-24T09:43:53.517" UserId="4438" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8336" PostId="4664" Score="2" Text="Untrained people are usually very bad at grappling, both standing and especially on the ground. That is one weakness to exploit, if you can grapple." CreationDate="2014-12-24T14:28:54.320" UserId="3234" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8337" PostId="4667" Score="2" Text="Wouldn't this question be more appropriate on [Home Improvement SE](http://diy.stackexchange.com)? Or does the construction require specific martial arts knowledge?" CreationDate="2014-12-26T11:47:51.497" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8339" PostId="4653" Score="0" Text="The power in real judo comes from the opponent's momentum and body weight, what they are wearing is not relevant. A proficient judoka will adapt to the situation at hand - as pointed out below, it's a question of applying the fundamentals of balance, leverage and timing - not clothing." CreationDate="2014-12-26T13:39:31.987" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8340" PostId="4343" Score="0" Text="I would agree that if self defense is your primary goal, Krav Maga is the best bet. There are no rules, and as my friend said: &quot;Krav teaches you to counter-attack  to the point that the original attacker says 'Hey- you guys stop attacking me' -even if it's just you in the counter-attack&quot;" CreationDate="2014-12-26T21:14:54.183" UserId="4388" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8341" PostId="3135" Score="0" Text="Krav Maga utilizes techniques from all of those, and if self defense is a primary goal, is unique in that there are no rules. Eye and groin strikes are taught." CreationDate="2014-12-26T21:17:56.627" UserId="4388" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8343" PostId="4578" Score="0" Text="Jack Slack, noted striking analyst, disagrees: [Dipping is bending at the knees while maintaining the stance with the upper body. Weaving is bending at the waist.](http://fightland.vice.com/blog/killing-the-king-jon-jones)" CreationDate="2014-12-28T20:32:19.180" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8344" PostId="4672" Score="2" Text="This would be a better fit at fitness.SE." CreationDate="2014-12-28T20:44:16.617" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8345" PostId="4673" Score="2" Text="I second PNF stretching techniques.  The only restriction to people being able to do splits isn't age, but rather the angle of the femur head in the hip socket, which, for some, is set such they can never fully get splits.  Otherwise, it's really just a matter of time and patience.  And, along with flexibility - make sure to do strength exercises at the far ranges of your range of motion to stabilize your joint!" CreationDate="2014-12-28T21:11:56.443" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8346" PostId="4664" Score="0" Text="In your &quot;optimal training&quot; scenario, why would you focus on open-palm jabs as opposed to fists?" CreationDate="2014-12-29T17:02:21.637" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8347" PostId="4664" Score="0" Text="@TimothyAWiseman Because my hand bones are delicate flowers. Of course, what the hell do I know what I'd do if I were properly trained? I'm mostly basing it on recently watching several Bas Rutten clips where he talks about it being a good approach to ungloved fighting." CreationDate="2014-12-29T22:03:28.713" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8355" PostId="1808" Score="0" Text="Extra plus points for this: &quot;But--sitting on the couch causes diabetes, heart disease, immobility, boredom, and a boring personality.&quot;" CreationDate="2014-12-31T20:48:49.150" UserId="424" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8356" PostId="4678" Score="2" Text="-1. Yet more mystical mumbo jumbo, utter ignorance of what science is, and cult mentality." CreationDate="2015-01-02T07:34:28.697" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8357" PostId="4679" Score="0" Text="-1, chi is mystical mumbo jumbo." CreationDate="2015-01-02T08:28:23.477" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8358" PostId="4679" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion Although I disagree, thank you for commenting instead of just downvoting! I encourage you to continue." CreationDate="2015-01-02T14:10:20.800" UserId="4479" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8359" PostId="4681" Score="1" Text="+1 for pointing out that one can be right about one thing and utterly wrong about another. -1 for unprovable mythical chi/qi being something real." CreationDate="2015-01-02T15:21:29.100" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8360" PostId="4682" Score="0" Text="-1. While historically interesting, this does not answer the question. There are no health benefits to believing in one mythical thing over another: it's all placebo effect." CreationDate="2015-01-02T15:23:50.163" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8361" PostId="4681" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion Hello again! Nice to hear from you! Your comment made me laugh. If you would are interested, here is an excellent paper from the Journal of Scientific Exploration titled &quot;[Certain Physical Manifestation and Effects of External Qi of Yan Xin Life Science Technology](http://flowingzen.com/downloads/YanXinPhysicalManifestataion.pdf)&quot; regarding the qi transmitted by the great qigong master Dr. Yan Xin. If you are uninterested or find this paper unsuitable, that is fine as well." CreationDate="2015-01-02T15:27:18.430" UserId="4479" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8362" PostId="4682" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion Hello again! I'm afraid I must disagree. I answered the question &quot;What health aspects does it improve?&quot; and then gave the reason for my answer (because only answering &quot;It improves all aspects&quot;) would have been unhelpful." CreationDate="2015-01-02T15:33:07.707" UserId="4479" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8363" PostId="4681" Score="0" Text="Thank you, that &quot;paper&quot; made me laugh. It's awesome in all respects! ^_~" CreationDate="2015-01-02T16:12:27.323" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8364" PostId="995" Score="1" Text="A useful link (but not enough for a whole answer) is [Edzard Ernst](http://edzardernst.com/about/edzard-ernst/)'s [Tai Chi is based on strange concepts but is it helpful?](http://edzardernst.com/2013/06/tai-chi-is-based-on-strange-concepts-but-is-it-helpful/) blog post. *Here be evidence based medicine.*" CreationDate="2015-01-02T16:15:42.907" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8365" PostId="1806" Score="1" Text="You must play some hardcore card games ;-)" CreationDate="2015-01-02T16:17:42.960" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8366" PostId="997" Score="0" Text="If a, and b are positive integers then a+b &gt; a. So, comparing something to nothing of course yields a better result.  Once you know that, a lot of alternative medicine &quot;trials&quot; are easily dismissed as confidence tricks." CreationDate="2015-01-02T16:19:28.310" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8367" PostId="4681" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion I now suspect I have offended you by laughing. I am sorry, I didn't mean to. Regarding your comment, I am not sure what you want. I have presented coherent, sensible, and scientific (albeit from the chinese scientific paradigm) explanations of seemingly &quot;mystical&quot; phenomena and also linked to a study performed using the western scientific paradigm yet you still seem unsatisfied. You don't have to agree with me but I would appreciate the respect I presume you afford to people with whom you do agree." CreationDate="2015-01-02T16:30:38.313" UserId="4479" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8368" PostId="4681" Score="0" Text="First, I genuinely laughed because that paper is such a brilliant collection of quackery. Second, there is **no such thing** as a chinese scientific paradigm. The [scientific method](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method) does not differ based on your skin colour, your gender, or physical and temporal locations. Finally, thank you for the [ad hominem](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem) attack." CreationDate="2015-01-02T16:47:33.397" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8369" PostId="4681" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion I did not mean to attack you, I only asked that you give me the common courtesy you would give someone you were speaking to face to face. The scientific method remains the same but the paradigm is different. We westerners usually prefer to view things as individual objects composed of individual pieces of matter. Historically, the chinese have viewed things as composed of energy and part of a universal energy flow. Neither are wrong, they are just different ways of talking about the same thing. Thirdly, what about the paper is quackery? The instruments used show clear differences." CreationDate="2015-01-02T17:01:19.857" UserId="4479" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8370" PostId="4686" Score="1" Text="Can you explain what you mean by &quot;in a cyclic manner&quot;? Do you mean the difference between a spinning side or back kick, and from a spinning crescent or heel kick?" CreationDate="2015-01-04T00:48:42.977" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8371" PostId="4686" Score="1" Text="Not sure, but I think what MehdiHaghgoo might be referring to is the fact that Taekwondo will often keep the knee bent during the spin and then snaps it out (extends the leg) at the very last moment to complete the kick. This is a two cycle/phase motion. And to be technical, you first turn the upper body, then lift the leg while rotating the lower body, and then snap the kick out. JKD, I believe, just turns everything simultaneously and keeps the kicking leg fully extended throughout the kick (emphasizing waist and hip strength). I'm not certain this is what he/she is referring to." CreationDate="2015-01-04T07:46:46.080" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8372" PostId="4686" Score="0" Text="@steveweigand right. Which is more powerful?" CreationDate="2015-01-04T08:10:10.553" UserId="4367" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8373" PostId="4686" Score="0" Text="@seanduggan bruce's book says spin kick in JKD is hit directly opposed some other sports that hit it from a side direction. I hope this makes it clear. Sorry I don't know specific terminology :-)" CreationDate="2015-01-04T08:18:36.253" UserId="4367" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8374" PostId="4688" Score="0" Text="JKD also requires 360 degree spin." CreationDate="2015-01-04T18:57:56.653" UserId="4367" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8375" PostId="4688" Score="0" Text="Ah. The one in the JKD video above uses a 180 or so. Is that not the one you're speaking of?" CreationDate="2015-01-04T20:24:50.020" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8376" PostId="4686" Score="1" Text="It's hard to know how to interpret that, though. &quot;Direct&quot; in JKD can mean that the kick impacts on the front of your opponent's body (in a direct line from you to your opponent). But Bruce Lee also said that it can hit at a 90 degree angle (at the sides of your opponent), if that is the most direct path. In this case, I think using a spin kick to hit the front of your opponent's body is wrong. The only way you can make that work is by stepping to the side of your opponent first. So I think your interpretation of &quot;direct&quot; might be wrong. Can you list the page number in &quot;Tao of JKD&quot;?" CreationDate="2015-01-04T20:42:34.610" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8377" PostId="4681" Score="1" Text="That &quot;paper&quot; is the handwaviest piece of writing I have ever read." CreationDate="2015-01-04T21:03:11.893" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8378" PostId="4682" Score="0" Text="-1 Qi flow is an incoherent concept, not a medical term, state, or technique." CreationDate="2015-01-04T21:04:45.967" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8379" PostId="4683" Score="2" Text="That's a silly idea." CreationDate="2015-01-04T21:05:31.643" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8380" PostId="4679" Score="1" Text="What is chi, if it causes physical effects? Shouldn't we have some sort of specific understanding of it, instead of just vaguenesses?" CreationDate="2015-01-04T21:07:13.027" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8381" PostId="4678" Score="2" Text="&quot;[Masters who 'have chi power'] have plenty of students with cash in hand willing to pay them handsomely in order to learn&quot; -- people pay all sorts of con artists for the privilege of being scammed." CreationDate="2015-01-04T21:08:54.137" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8382" PostId="4688" Score="0" Text="People in the video don't not seem to be doing it perfectly. One instance of Bruce Lee's spin kick is in his &quot;Enter the Dragon&quot; fight with Oharra." CreationDate="2015-01-05T07:24:05.520" UserId="4367" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8383" PostId="4688" Score="0" Text="The fighter pivots on his right foot and after delivering a left kick, he instantly returns to his former guard, hence 360 degrees." CreationDate="2015-01-05T07:28:21.810" UserId="4367" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8384" PostId="4685" Score="3" Text="Do not seek the advice of strangers on the Internet with regards to medical conditions: **Talk to medical professionals**. Your orthodontist should be able to answer (or at least research) said question." CreationDate="2015-01-05T07:41:29.080" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8387" PostId="4679" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann At the most basic level, everything is qi. Your hands, your mind, your thoughts, and the energy that sustains your life are all qi. This idea is not in opposition to western science, it is merely a different paradigm. Neither way is wrong, they are both imperfect descriptions of the same thing. I don't feel this definition is vague. In this context, I am referring to the energy inside an exponent's body." CreationDate="2015-01-05T15:33:52.373" UserId="4479" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8389" PostId="4679" Score="2" Text="You don't see how saying &quot;everything is qi&quot; is vague?" CreationDate="2015-01-05T15:40:03.893" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8390" PostId="4683" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann If you ask me, trying to use single whip for anything except exploding force through the front palm is silly." CreationDate="2015-01-05T15:41:44.073" UserId="4479" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8392" PostId="4679" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Hi Dave, the answer to your question `Shouldn't we have some sort of specific understanding of it, instead of just vaguenesses?` is no (if you consider &quot;energy&quot; vague). I gave the definition of qi. In my opinion, trying to force the concept of qi into into our western scientific paradigm is the source of much confusion. Our paradigm and the traditional chinese paradigm are just too different. I also clarified by saying I meant the energy flowing inside the body." CreationDate="2015-01-05T15:47:42.730" UserId="4479" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8396" PostId="4679" Score="1" Text="I have no problem with alternate paradigms: &quot;energy&quot; is a word frequently used in discussions about interpersonal relationships or wrestling. Nobody has a problem with saying 'energy' as a descriptor in those contexts because use of the term doesn't snowball into claims about supernatural powers that defy belief and fall apart under scruinty." CreationDate="2015-01-05T16:03:56.063" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8397" PostId="4679" Score="2" Text="And it's not using an &quot;alternate paradigm&quot; to say, ludicrously, &quot;This force is not related to body mechanics, leverage, or muscular strength.&quot;" CreationDate="2015-01-05T16:04:56.580" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8399" PostId="4679" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Part of viewing from an alternate paradigm is that you have to give up your previous one while doing it. From the chinese perspective, action from a distance or other &quot;supernatural powers&quot; are not supernatural. They are explained and supported by science. Same thing for my statement regarding force that you ridiculed. If you're interested, Tai Chi Classics by Master Waysun Liao contains a great discussion of this topic." CreationDate="2015-01-05T16:54:27.860" UserId="4479" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8401" PostId="4688" Score="1" Text="You would be referring to this one? http://youtu.be/Kpu_lTDyd88?t=1m55s" CreationDate="2015-01-06T00:13:36.953" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8402" PostId="4331" Score="3" Text="It is not only the mouth-guard that has changed since 1951 but also the gloves, and due to the gloves changing, how punches are thrown to the face(skull)." CreationDate="2015-01-06T12:57:15.170" UserId="1615" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8405" PostId="4686" Score="1" Text="@SteveWeigand - Depends on the kick. Heel and Wheel spin kicks use straight legs." CreationDate="2015-01-06T15:48:57.830" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8406" PostId="4686" Score="1" Text="A point of terminology - Typically, a &quot;spin&quot; kick is one in which you end up back in the same stance you started. So if you start right foot back, you will end up in the same place, same stance. A reverse kick is one where you advance a stance length, as you don't replace the kicking foot behind you, but place it in front. As far as efficacy, they all can be effective when done properly, it's more a choice of space and application than anything. Some reverse and spin kicks in TKD target in a linear fashion, some target in a circular fashion." CreationDate="2015-01-06T15:51:45.550" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8407" PostId="4685" Score="1" Text="Three people agree that it's a bad question, but only one VTC?" CreationDate="2015-01-06T15:55:09.447" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8408" PostId="4686" Score="1" Text="Yes, you're right. A spinning side kick is linear. What I was imagining was Bruce Lee's most famous &quot;Dragon Whips Tail&quot; kick, which is another name for the spinning inside-to-outside crescent kick. In JKD, as in all kung-fu/wushu, you keep the leg unbent and locked during that kick. You use the hip/waist to control the kick and don't snap the kick out at the end like TKD does. At least in Jun Fan / JKD." CreationDate="2015-01-06T19:30:08.033" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8409" PostId="4686" Score="0" Text="@steve i checked out tao of JKD. It had a classification of various spin kicks. The one under question is just one of them opposed to my former assumption that JKD has only one spin kick." CreationDate="2015-01-06T20:35:51.027" UserId="4367" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8410" PostId="4686" Score="1" Text="Just to clarify: The JKD kick in question is called a &quot;spin kick&quot; in JKD, and in TKD it's called &quot;spinning side kick&quot; (also known as &quot;reverse side kick&quot;). The TKD kick the original question asks about, I think, is the &quot;spinning inside-to-outside crescent kick&quot;, because it's circular (what I interpret &quot;cyclic&quot; to mean from the context of the question). Are those the two kicks you want compared?" CreationDate="2015-01-06T21:20:55.533" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8411" PostId="4686" Score="0" Text="Yes that's right @steve. And it now seems rather hard to do a comparison. They look very close in practice in how effective they are" CreationDate="2015-01-06T21:32:47.623" UserId="4367" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8412" PostId="4686" Score="1" Text="Yes, they're both used effectively, but in different situations. I will say that the spinning side kick is a very powerful kick. Some would say the most powerful kick. Adding a hop forward (and landing your back leg on the ground at the same time as you complete the kick) would make it even more powerful. It's deceptive, too, making it hard to anticipate. But the spinning crescent kick is also hard to anticipate, just not as powerful. Targets are different in both kicks. The side kick will be to the front of the torso. The crescent kick to the side of the head." CreationDate="2015-01-06T21:49:38.830" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8413" PostId="1711" Score="0" Text="Can you tell me what the complications of acl surgery are? I take Taewondo . I did not have the surgery and I really want to go back to training.. I am so nervous of the surgery. I rather risk the damage later and start training. But, I do know this would be very risky to my knee and other ligaments.." CreationDate="2015-01-05T14:55:41.973" UserDisplayName="user4490" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="8414" PostId="1711" Score="0" Text="I am afraid that we are not a forum but a Q&amp;A site devoted to martial arts.  First, your answer (as this is one) does not answer the question asked.  Second, even if you were to ask this as a question, it would be off topic since it's about medicine and not martial arts. Thirdly, I encourage you to look at our [help centre](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help)." CreationDate="2015-01-05T15:55:12.563" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9408" PostId="3135" Score="1" Text="I still think kicking someone in the balls is the best self defense move ever" CreationDate="2015-01-08T20:10:42.343" UserId="5503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9409" PostId="4604" Score="1" Text="I train/teach ITF TKD and this is what we teach; the palm on fist represents the um-yang." CreationDate="2015-01-09T13:37:07.147" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9410" PostId="4686" Score="0" Text="As for the down-side of all kinds of spinning kicks, if an opponent is able to anticipate that you're doing any spinning kick, he will rush in towards you, neutralizing your kick completely as well as putting you in a very vulnerable position. You will have one leg on the ground, making you temporarily immobile and susceptible to being grabbed, tackled, your leg caught, and/or your base leg swept. It's wise to have a back-up plan in case this happens. Or avoid spinning kicks completely." CreationDate="2015-01-09T22:07:32.727" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9411" PostId="4686" Score="0" Text="What do you mean by backup @Steve" CreationDate="2015-01-09T22:11:03.543" UserId="4367" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9412" PostId="4697" Score="0" Text="Are you sure they are ineffective in real fighting?" CreationDate="2015-01-09T23:12:29.853" UserId="4367" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9413" PostId="4686" Score="1" Text="Lots of different scenarios. Too many to go over here. Someone grabs your right leg, then jump up and towards your opponent with a high left knee to his body or face (clinch first for stability). Some do a high round kick to the head to escape the leg grab also. Alternatively, kani basami (scissors kick). If no leg is grabbed, but he's rushing in to tackle or push you over, grab hold of him first, then turn your body to face him while putting your leg down, and sprawl. Practice it with a partner. Tell him to do these things at random, so you're not expecting anything in particular." CreationDate="2015-01-10T00:19:38.790" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9414" PostId="4697" Score="2" Text="Yes, it's a higher risk than using low kicks, that is 100% certain. The risk is partly because you can have your leg grabbed, but also because it can cause you to slip or lose your balance. Adding spins to it increases the risk, and it causes you to use more time, which means it takes more time to recover if things go wrong (like if your opponent rushes in to body check you). But, there are opportunities for everything. When you're done developing your basic techniques to a high degree, you can add a spin side kick to your game. Caveat is to always have a back-up plan when things go wrong." CreationDate="2015-01-10T04:22:48.823" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9415" PostId="4677" Score="3" Text="The trouble with this answer is it doesn't give any better understanding of what uprooting actually means and how it can be seen or felt. I think answers like this are often from misunderstandings or misinterpretations of ancient Chinese manuals, which themselves talk in cryptic ways, perhaps intentionally. In-person transmission is required for these kinds of topics, because clearly this sort of traditional mumbo-jumbo language fails us." CreationDate="2015-01-10T23:40:33.253" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9416" PostId="4683" Score="0" Text="No, that little loopy thing you do with your hand as it curls into a crane's beak? That's a chin-na technique. It's to deal with a wrist grab. You are disengaging the grab and simultaneously grabbing his wrist and extending his arm out. This can be done from the inside or the outside position. On the inside position, the follow-up palm strike is to the face (stomach-5) or neck (stomach-9). On the outside position, the follow-up palm strike is actually a standing elbow lock/break and possible throw." CreationDate="2015-01-10T23:46:05.083" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9417" PostId="4698" Score="0" Text="-1.  This is a confused answer and needed editing." CreationDate="2015-01-12T09:37:15.877" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9418" PostId="4698" Score="0" Text="&quot;internal&quot; martial arts refers to chinese martial arts that originated inside China, as opposed to &quot;external&quot; martial arts that e.g. have roots in Buddhism (Buddhism originating in India)." CreationDate="2015-01-12T10:30:03.933" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9419" PostId="4677" Score="1" Text="@SteveWeigand This is the literal meaning of uprooting and also how it can be seen and felt (having your connection to the ground broken can be felt). It isn't metaphoric language for something unusual. &quot;Mumbo-jumbo&quot; language only fails for people who lack the experience. If you've never gone swimming and you ask me what it feels like, telling you swimming is difficult and tiring even though you feel lighter doesn't help you understand swimming. You need the experience." CreationDate="2015-01-12T17:04:15.040" UserId="4479" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9420" PostId="4677" Score="2" Text="Great, so show the chi moving from the sky to your head, then from your head to the ground. And publish that in a peer reviewed scientific journal and get back to me. It's not a metaphor, you say. So it must be real. If it is real, it shouldn't be hard to get your article published." CreationDate="2015-01-12T18:58:59.937" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9421" PostId="4555" Score="1" Text="force yourself to move in. If you practise it in one step sparring first you will train the reaction. Wing Chun is close range, so close the range. Also stepping in closer takes the momentum and power out of the kick. But beware of Thai fighters as they are also good at close range and give powerful knee attacks." CreationDate="2015-01-13T09:28:02.437" UserId="1135" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9422" PostId="4555" Score="0" Text="And please please please do not kick trees :'( In kung fu we believe in gradual progress toughen your legs and arms over time in a gentle manner without damaging/breaking things. GLASS HEAD, BEAN CURD BODY, IRON BRIDGES" CreationDate="2015-01-13T09:30:53.563" UserId="1135" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9425" PostId="2809" Score="1" Text="Not a bad answer, but remember one of Wing Chun's core ideas was not to teach a set of responses to a particular attack as was normal in more traditional systems. But rather teach a few key techniques and then practice it against various types of attacks. Wing Chun is very good at adapting to various systems." CreationDate="2015-01-13T09:37:44.180" UserId="1135" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9426" PostId="2804" Score="1" Text="excellent answer, yes how you train is what is important. If you only train against boxers you will be very good at defeating boxers. But then this is true for any martial art." CreationDate="2015-01-13T09:39:31.137" UserId="1135" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9427" PostId="3074" Score="2" Text="Just be careful. Wing Chun does not move around a lot, but can very quickly change direction. Their motto is to wait for incoming attack and then twist and rapidly attack with kicks/strikes at an angle. Large dedicated attacks are especially vulnerable. I tend to find fakes may get inexperienced wing chun guys to over commit leaving them open to the real punch.  Also students with more advanced training will use (for a lack of a better word) unorthodox methods to counter.  My sifu always said: &quot;Wing Chun is like Mechano. We give you the parts so you can build anything you need.&quot;" CreationDate="2015-01-13T09:44:59.067" UserId="1135" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9430" PostId="2806" Score="0" Text="Wing Chun is aimed at teaching novices how to defend against skilled Kung Fu fighters. At that, it's brilliant, but it was never meant as a serious competitor to martial arts in general." CreationDate="2015-01-13T10:33:35.437" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9431" PostId="2809" Score="0" Text="True, and that is why it has holes. My advice: if you only have Wing Chun, be aggressive, make the first move, quickly get right up in your opponent's face, and fire as many punches as you can. That's probably WC's best tool (offensiveness and quickly moving to the close range). Many of the Youtube videos where Wing Chun people fail show a common trend: They waited for their opponent to come and bridge with them, just like a Wing Chun training drill or something. So they were sitting ducks for hook punches and Thai kicks. Limited tool set, so bend the situation to where you can use them." CreationDate="2015-01-13T18:24:48.417" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9432" PostId="2809" Score="1" Text="Issue is not with a system but with the practitioner of a system. No matter who you fight against being able to read their automatic responses &amp; tells/signals will give you the edge every time." CreationDate="2015-01-14T08:17:29.767" UserId="1135" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9433" PostId="2809" Score="0" Text="Yes and no. Yes, in that systems actually don't matter one bit. That's what I believe. What matters is how you train. If you train like MMA trains (anything goes, non-compliant partners), then you're going to be fine, because you'll figure out what you're missing and will go out and learn it on your own. Almost no WC group I've seen does it that way, though. They usually claim their system has everything they need and reject MMA style training. And what you're saying about the &quot;reading&quot; of an opponent is just one part of having a reliable training method. That alone won't give you much." CreationDate="2015-01-14T18:24:32.033" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9434" PostId="2809" Score="0" Text="good point Steve, but not all WC groups are like that. Just as I have seen many fighters in MMA that are weak against certain kind of attacks. If you can not read your opponent and have not trained against people using those attacks then you have a weakness. I think in answer to question i just feel you need to work on not beating WC guys but rather should train to fight against different type of attackers at different ranges." CreationDate="2015-01-15T08:29:51.413" UserId="1135" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9435" PostId="4556" Score="0" Text="except for the kicking trees bit not a bad answer. Do not kick trees or walls. toughening the bone structure and skin is important but do not desensitize yourself completely and do not cause serious bruises, hairline fractures, etc." CreationDate="2015-01-15T08:59:45.950" UserId="1135" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9436" PostId="4704" Score="0" Text="-1 for link-only answer" CreationDate="2015-01-15T18:56:59.510" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9437" PostId="4697" Score="1" Text="@SteveWeigand Yes, it's higher risk. However, it's not ineffective. Where most people go wrong is they don't set up/disguise the kick, they just throw it. Fast techniques (jabs, front leg snap kicks, etc) don't need much in the way of prep/disguise. The slower and more involved you get, the better you need to set it up. There are numerous videos through the years of professional fighters quite successfully using spinning kicks in fights. The percentage of success only goes up against the massively untrained general public." CreationDate="2015-01-15T20:48:03.143" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9438" PostId="4697" Score="2" Text="Very true. Any technique can work. Just depends on the situation. Doesn't change my general recommendation. Train high percentage stuff first and foremost. Get great at it. The low percentage stuff can come later. And practice a back-up plan when things go wrong. Eventually those low percentage techniques can be pulled off so reliably that they become someone's most useful technique. (Percentages are just averages and can be used as a guide, but each person is unique. )" CreationDate="2015-01-16T04:00:20.293" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9443" PostId="4704" Score="0" Text="All good answers and I appreciate them all.  This video was the most clear.  After doing it many times, I think I now have it down.  FWIW, I think the key is to refuse help from the instructors who offer to wrap your hands, and go ahead and wrap them yourself (and make mistakes!)." CreationDate="2015-01-16T18:26:13.173" UserId="1973" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9444" PostId="4708" Score="1" Text="Takedowns and kicks? Since the OP says &quot;boxing&quot; I am assuming the classic style of boxing, takedowns and leg kicks are not allowed." CreationDate="2015-01-19T15:38:04.460" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9445" PostId="4708" Score="0" Text="@WayneInYak: Thai boxing does have leg kicks and is &quot;boxing&quot;..." CreationDate="2015-01-19T17:08:11.713" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9446" PostId="4708" Score="0" Text="@WayneInYak I totally missed 'boxing' in the title and tag. You're absolutely right. Whoops." CreationDate="2015-01-19T18:05:08.967" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9447" PostId="4708" Score="1" Text="sorry for taking off the &quot;chosen&quot; from your answer, though it is very helpful, but the second one takes a more practical take on the question :P being better than my opponent I could overrun him if I wanted, but against inferior opponents I prefer to win by technique and tactic alone, to make myself and my opponent better. So I was looking for an asnwer from someone more experienced, to see if what I had in mind was right. +1 on your answer from me anyway :D P.S. As Wayne noted, I did really refer to traditional boxing." CreationDate="2015-01-19T18:59:16.383" UserId="5523" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9450" PostId="4711" Score="0" Text="This is what I have suggested to people in the pass, gotta move around them. When we would spare in our karate class I would often work with lower levels which tended to be much smaller than me. Getting into a punching match wasn't going to work. I would tell them move, get inside for a few good shots and then back out (unless you had a knockout shot available). If they wanted to stand and go toe to toe trading punches I was more than happy to do so with them." CreationDate="2015-01-20T15:26:04.447" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9451" PostId="4400" Score="0" Text="Asking &quot;Which is better&quot; is one of the least productive questions to ask on StackExchange." CreationDate="2015-01-21T14:19:56.053" UserId="660" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9452" PostId="4717" Score="0" Text="-1. This does not answer the question at all!  How can someone with limited use of one side of their body benefit from Chin na?" CreationDate="2015-01-21T16:20:33.327" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9453" PostId="4718" Score="2" Text="Just a grain of salt on tools: *please check with your lawyer that said tools are legal to carry for self defence*. Some might not be and might get you on the wrong side of law. I am not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV so talk to a real one." CreationDate="2015-01-22T07:38:09.510" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9454" PostId="4718" Score="0" Text="Yep.  I really emphasize looking into what is legal to carry." CreationDate="2015-01-22T08:52:35.270" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9455" PostId="4719" Score="3" Text="It seems there are multiple interpretations and 'thank you' is certainly one of them. However as stslavik also mentions in his answer, [it's also a Chinese greeting](http://sifuwallace.com/martial-salutations/) often used in Martial arts called 'Bao Quan'" CreationDate="2015-01-22T14:40:02.107" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9456" PostId="4683" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand Could you post that as an answer please?" CreationDate="2015-01-23T17:26:11.220" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9457" PostId="4683" Score="0" Text="Yeah, I'll see what I can do later on today. I learned that application from a direct student of Chen Qingzhou, fyi. I think it's the only one that really makes any sense martially speaking." CreationDate="2015-01-23T17:56:11.657" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9458" PostId="4720" Score="1" Text="This question seems a little too general? It feels like the question boils down to &quot;How SHOULD I hit someone?&quot; to which there's as many answers as there are styles of defense. Can you give some more specifics as far as what you're looking for or limits to the situation?" CreationDate="2015-01-24T17:18:53.703" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9459" PostId="4720" Score="0" Text="Question updated." CreationDate="2015-01-24T21:16:18.470" UserId="1811" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9460" PostId="4720" Score="2" Text="Have you considered any form of wrestling instead of strikes?" CreationDate="2015-01-24T22:53:39.967" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9461" PostId="4720" Score="2" Text="So, to clarify a) You cannot walk/run away, b) there's no obstacles you can put between you and the person, c) are they just talking trash? Is this life threatening?, d) do they have to get THAT close before you can act?  Might they have a knife? Might they have friends? I feel like this question lacks critical context in a lot of ways.  And, as Dave pointed out, grappling works as well.  It's not like there's 1 miracle technique that works up close for everything.  Tell us the situation w/o scraping off the reasons." CreationDate="2015-01-25T01:03:02.413" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9462" PostId="4720" Score="0" Text="It's just an imaginary situation. What would you do to at least get a chance to escape? I suppose, like Dave, that some form of grappling should work. I'd tried finding some Krav Maga technique for this, but it looks like they didn't think about it. In Krav Maga it's all about some trying to estrangulate you, kicking you, attacking with a knife. I didn't find any grappling/strike when someone is just to near and invading your personal space." CreationDate="2015-01-25T01:11:19.260" UserId="1811" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9463" PostId="4720" Score="1" Text="I think the reason you're finding they don't have a technique for that is because when someone is threatening and you see they're threatening you don't wait for them to get within your body space before taking action to get away?  The folks who get that close either have run up on you from behind and are attacking or have a weapon at your side or back and are threatening you.  Otherwise it only happens when two guys start playing the yelling/pushing game before fighting." CreationDate="2015-01-25T04:47:24.380" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9464" PostId="4723" Score="0" Text="+1: deescalating, -1: preventive strike, +1: legal disclaimer! The last paragraph deserves more emphasis." CreationDate="2015-01-26T07:32:14.503" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9466" PostId="4727" Score="1" Text="-1, a very naive answer." CreationDate="2015-01-26T07:36:06.747" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9469" PostId="4662" Score="2" Text="Most effective for...? Sparring? Forms? Self defense? Exercise? Impressing the ladies? Every art has a roundhouse kick, and in every art the striking surface can be instep, shin, ball of foot, etc., and each strike has a different purpose. Your question is very vague." CreationDate="2015-01-26T14:53:54.583" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9470" PostId="4728" Score="0" Text="It can be used either offensively or defensively. Just remember that the timing of this kick is the most important thing. Start spinning just when you see your opponent start to do something. That way it causes him to have to abort what he's doing and react to something you're doing. (Good advice in general as far as timing goes.) This is called &quot;attacking on a half-beat&quot; (instead of letting him do something, then you do something, and so on in &quot;full beats&quot;). Also, you're probably a beginner? Don't worry, it will all make sense in time. Practice, practice, practice. And think about combos." CreationDate="2015-01-26T18:50:02.327" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9471" PostId="4723" Score="1" Text="I'm not advocating a preventive strike, just describing it along with the other 2 choices. It's good to go over all possible choices and let the individual figure out when to apply them best, in my opinion. And yes, the legal aspects of self-defense are rarely discussed in martial arts classes, and that's just downright negligent. After all, there's an instructor telling people to do this or that, and the students should know that stomping on someone's skull after they're unconscious, for example, may result in jail time. There might be better things to do, in other words." CreationDate="2015-01-26T22:39:30.600" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9472" PostId="4723" Score="0" Text="Clearly, we are on the same page. ^_~" CreationDate="2015-01-27T07:57:44.880" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9473" PostId="4732" Score="5" Text="Umm, anytime? Turn that question around and ask yourself: when *wouldn't* you use Aikido?" CreationDate="2015-01-28T00:21:20.163" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9474" PostId="2501" Score="0" Text="By that definition Shotokan and boxing are internal.  See for example &quot;Real punching&quot; by Geoff Thompson" CreationDate="2015-01-28T06:12:50.303" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9475" PostId="4733" Score="1" Text="+1, a very good answer to a very bad question. However, there is no such thing as &quot;Tomiki Aikido&quot;.  Tomiki did create a system of teaching Aikido that involves an element of competition called Shodokan Aikido." CreationDate="2015-01-28T07:59:25.757" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9477" PostId="4735" Score="2" Text="The best moment to do the kick is the same as it ever was - when the target is open. The question is, are you using good form for the kick? Are you targeting the right spot(s)? Are you telegraphing the kick so your sparring partners know it is coming?" CreationDate="2015-01-28T11:29:11.867" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9478" PostId="4735" Score="1" Text="-1, Do you really aim to hurt your partner?..." CreationDate="2015-01-28T11:38:22.120" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9479" PostId="4735" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion if I would want to learn some martial art without hurting and being hurt I'd probably choose some no contact sport. Getting hurt during training makes you harder and more prepared for competition/aggression. There are many sayings about that: `Train hard, fight easy`, `No pain, no gain`, `Hard work pays off`, `The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in war`" CreationDate="2015-01-28T12:50:30.517" UserId="1115" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9480" PostId="4736" Score="0" Text="thanks for the answer. Although I noticed that it isn't necessary to kick the supporting leg, even if there is (let's say) 20% weight on a leg, a kick to that leg can cool down/stop an aggressor for a short while" CreationDate="2015-01-28T12:54:30.687" UserId="1115" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9481" PostId="4735" Score="3" Text="@Novarg - Welcome to Cobra Kai. None of the stupid aphorisms you just bleated encompass hurting yourself or your opponent." CreationDate="2015-01-28T14:55:06.893" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9482" PostId="4738" Score="0" Text="I understand boxing teaches a lot of useful tools, but the limitations of the sport are my concern. Boxing doesn't teach you how to deal with someone attacking your legs, attacking you from behind, or to deal with anything in the sport that is considered a &quot;cheap shot.&quot; The attack area for boxing is limited as well, focusing only on the front/sides of the core and head. I'm just interested to see if there is a martial art that expands beyond the limits of boxing while still focusing on hand strikes." CreationDate="2015-01-28T16:58:44.060" UserId="5549" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9483" PostId="4737" Score="2" Text="Welcome to the site. I slightly edited your question so that it fits better -- mostly removed things that were not needed. We are all here to ask/answer questions, so no need to say &quot;hi&quot;. Also, you thank people by up voting their answers.  Have a look at the help centre for more information." CreationDate="2015-01-28T17:01:56.990" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9484" PostId="4733" Score="2" Text="Ah thanks for the correction. I always knew it as Tomiki Aikido, like it was a style in and of itself. Guess not." CreationDate="2015-01-28T18:01:33.347" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9485" PostId="4741" Score="0" Text="Awesome. Thanks for the suggestions fellas. I will have to check out those along with the greco-roman wrestling. I an completely unfamiliar with any of these." CreationDate="2015-01-29T00:38:39.560" UserId="5549" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9486" PostId="4738" Score="0" Text="Which is where wrestling comes in." CreationDate="2015-01-29T07:20:48.567" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9488" PostId="2501" Score="0" Text="@Wudang you are partially right, but the thing is, both of them dont go that deep as internal martial arts. their way of punch touches only the surface of using the power of your whole body. There are very subtle, internal reflected things that can further help u to improve how to use whole body power. It might seem to be mysterious when you are a beginner, but after you master it, it is just &quot;whole body power&quot;" CreationDate="2015-01-29T14:06:13.347" UserId="1539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9489" PostId="2501" Score="1" Text="@shelper : nothing to do with my comment.  By his definition there are no external martial arts, and boxing and shotokan are internal *by his definition*. In both &quot;the force is generated by the whole body, in which your waist and hips are the key part you need to coordinate well.&quot;" CreationDate="2015-01-29T17:58:07.073" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9490" PostId="4732" Score="2" Text="I've been making revisions over the past couple of days to my answer. It's worth a re-read, especially for the final paragraphs. FYI." CreationDate="2015-01-30T05:52:44.193" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9492" PostId="4740" Score="1" Text="-1 for supposition and ranting." CreationDate="2015-01-30T16:12:59.507" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9493" PostId="4738" Score="0" Text="@Ongi &quot;deal with someone attacking your legs&quot; etc. - being light on your feet, fast, changing angles etc. counts for a lot - for example, watch here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rPCs_kJmDM how the boxer steps away from the second attacker's attempted kick while picking off his unprotected jaw.  Just being good at anything - with a realistic sense of the fight - counts for a hell of a lot." CreationDate="2015-01-31T07:35:45.950" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9494" PostId="4735" Score="0" Text="*&quot;I find it more and more difficult to land a decent low kick&quot;* - if you want help, how about describing what's proving difficult about it?  Are your opponents using different stances, jamming or blocking better, not spending time at that distance, keeping you off balance, their timing and direction of movement stopping you lining it up and landing it properly, are you getting slower or weaker with it due to lack of practice or condition etc....?  You've given us nothing to work with." CreationDate="2015-01-31T07:45:50.030" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9495" PostId="4736" Score="1" Text="@Novarg: you can't have it both ways - you ask &quot;So the question is: when is the best moment to land it in order to make it most devastating?&quot; and Juann talks about what's most effective, then you nit-pick that even a less effective kick can be useful like you know better than him...." CreationDate="2015-01-31T07:47:00.097" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9497" PostId="4749" Score="3" Text="There's never a single best answer to this question, so it might need to be closed, since it doesn't quite fit the context of Q&amp;A that we're aiming for. However, the question might be changed to fit better. Why did the idea even cross your mind? Did you speak to your teacher about it?" CreationDate="2015-02-01T16:23:07.210" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9498" PostId="4749" Score="3" Text="These sorts of questions are the type to get a wide range of opinions for answers. You should ask a more specific question. Think about what you're asking for. Some people who train in a primarily kicking and punching style prefer to stick to those kinds of arts, wanting to deepen their knowledge. Others want to broaden their knowledge by doing something completely different, such as a grappling style. If you have no idea if you should care about going deeper or broader (which one?), then that is your question. So please clarify." CreationDate="2015-02-01T16:25:22.760" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9499" PostId="4745" Score="1" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is a about biology (and possibly fitness) and has nothing whatsoever to do with martial arts." CreationDate="2015-02-02T11:05:34.010" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9500" PostId="4750" Score="0" Text="Welcome to Martial Arts SE! I don't really understand your first sentence. Could you please clarify?" CreationDate="2015-02-02T11:59:10.310" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9501" PostId="4722" Score="0" Text="I can see where that might be the most effective way to perform it in your martial art, but can you provide any proof that it's the most effective way to throw the kick in general? If so, that would be useful." CreationDate="2015-02-02T21:03:09.467" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9502" PostId="4728" Score="0" Text="Here's a perfect example of what I'm talking about (re: wait until he starts doing something before you spin)...&#xA;http://38.media.tumblr.com/c5ca32a8015170e8239c0e0deb705d55/tumblr_n053fohPnf1r3gb3zo1_400.gif" CreationDate="2015-02-03T18:13:14.023" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9504" PostId="4720" Score="0" Text="Headbutt. Keep it simple." CreationDate="2015-02-04T14:14:21.093" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9505" PostId="4749" Score="0" Text="I wish to broaden my knowledge of martial arts, while also maintaining my karate study, what would you recommend? @SteveWeigand" CreationDate="2015-02-04T16:53:56.447" UserId="5564" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9506" PostId="4765" Score="0" Text="The other part of your answer should be *don't get hit*. It's easier to win that way :)" CreationDate="2015-02-04T20:30:28.287" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9507" PostId="4749" Score="0" Text="I recommend looking around. Literally open the phone book and see what's available near you. Go to those schools. See their classes. Talk with the instructors. Kung-fu styles might be interesting to you after karate, to see where karate came from and to compare and contrast. After that, or instead of that, maybe something like Gracie Jiujitsu. It all depends on what strikes your fancy. (pun intended)" CreationDate="2015-02-04T21:14:17.157" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9508" PostId="4756" Score="0" Text="The wiki article refers to the 'Discovery Channel' with a link that doesn't exist anymore. I don't think it is worth much as proof." CreationDate="2015-02-05T07:02:42.200" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9511" PostId="4733" Score="4" Text="feather ruffling yes, disagreement no.  You seem to learn strikes more by accident then by teaching.  I have not seen the over emphasis on Ki at my dojo and when we have talked about it, I see it as a good explanation of the physics involved in a situation.  The whole partner system was set up to avoid some of the downsides of aikido you discuss, we as practitioners need to do a better job of implementing them.  Still despite its downsides I would still train in aikido over anything else I have been exposed too." CreationDate="2015-02-05T14:24:51.033" UserId="5573" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9512" PostId="4756" Score="0" Text="Fight Quest did an episode on it as well, where they said the same thing." CreationDate="2015-02-06T11:25:06.803" UserId="5571" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9513" PostId="4755" Score="0" Text="Some people who start out fooling around, giving it half effort, or simply not being naturally athletic, will turn out weeks or months later having something &quot;click&quot; and turning into some of the best and most dedicated students. It would be a shame to be too aggressive in &quot;weeding them out&quot; too early in the process, unless they are so disruptive as to be actively inhibiting the progress of other more serious students." CreationDate="2015-02-06T19:32:55.460" UserId="698" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9514" PostId="4746" Score="0" Text="Can you be more specific about how they are being &quot;less respectful?&quot; What do you mean by &quot;when the students walk?&quot;" CreationDate="2015-02-06T19:34:10.980" UserId="698" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9515" PostId="4763" Score="1" Text="You'll get better answers if you provide more info.  This full/semi/non contact?  What code/rules?  What thoughts do you have yourself about your possible advantages over him? Are you faster, more flexible, better technique, lighter on your feet, more stamina, more experienced, better conditioned etc?  Does he seem tough mentally?  What's happened in your sparring sessions?  Have you seen other people spar him - perhaps people who're smaller but more senior?" CreationDate="2015-02-07T19:44:19.673" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9516" PostId="4764" Score="2" Text="This question is too broad, even restricting it to one specific rule set of one martial art. You can expect hints, thoughts and references; not a full answer." CreationDate="2015-02-09T11:28:49.357" UserId="3234" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9517" PostId="4755" Score="0" Text="I know what you mean. But over the years I've noticed that this &quot;some&quot; is very small %.&#xA;I liked his approach, hence why I changed my daughters gymnastics clubs until I found a coach that ran his club the same way I was thought karate. &#xA;She not only learned that she loves gymnastics, but she also learned respect and discipline." CreationDate="2015-02-09T14:03:20.120" UserId="5571" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9518" PostId="4776" Score="2" Text="-1, vote to close.  First, anecdotal evidence is utterly worthless so three examples of bad Aikido videos (with no references) mean nothing whatsoever.  Second, your question reads like you have made up your mind and are just fishing for justifications.  Thirdly, what is a &quot;street fight&quot;? A car full of gang bangers shooting automatic weapons while driving? A drunk guy in a bar thinking you called his pint ugly?" CreationDate="2015-02-09T15:09:51.907" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9519" PostId="4776" Score="0" Text="I am looking for answers, not justification. I would like somebody to debate my proposed assumption of what I have gathered over time on the subject of Aikido vs MA or in a street fight.&#xA;You seemed to have jumped to conclusion a little to fast.&#xA;Thinking before you engage is a good trait." CreationDate="2015-02-09T15:20:31.520" UserId="5571" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9520" PostId="4776" Score="4" Text="We do not do debate as this is a question and answer site. Please find a forum such as [aikiweb](http://www.aikiweb.com) which will be happy to host debates. I said that *your question reads like* and if I have mistaken your question, maybe it could be better worded." CreationDate="2015-02-09T15:53:13.327" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9521" PostId="4777" Score="1" Text="Those are some useful tips. Purists might not like it, but this is fighting and whatever helps you win is good. Or at the very least, one should take note that techniques like this exist." CreationDate="2015-02-09T16:37:57.273" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9522" PostId="4776" Score="2" Text="I attempted to analyze Aikido's self-defense strategy, strengths, and weaknesses in another answer. Please see this: http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/4732/what-are-the-main-uses-of-aikido-in-self-defense" CreationDate="2015-02-09T17:27:26.730" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9523" PostId="4776" Score="0" Text="My conclusion is that you either need to train Aikido differently (by using non-compliant, live training partners), or you need to make sure you take your opponent by surprise (because then he won't be actively resisting what you're doing). This is a training failure, not a technique failure. Though, I would also argue that Aikido needs an infusion of striking, clinch / take-down, and ground skill to be reasonably &quot;complete&quot;. Without those, yes, what you saw is exactly what will happen. In my opinion." CreationDate="2015-02-09T17:31:09.457" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9524" PostId="4776" Score="0" Text="Cheers Steve. Reading your post as we speak." CreationDate="2015-02-09T17:33:02.650" UserId="5571" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9525" PostId="4776" Score="1" Text="Incidentally, the idea that anyone is going to catch the hand or wrist of someone in a fight is flawed. Hands move faster than any other body part. They flail. You won't be able to target a hand and grab one. Try it, and you'll be KO'd before you can. So, that is not how you apply an aikido hand technique. Allowing someone to square up and start to punch and kick? Not gonna work. You have to take him by surprise, before the fight even begins. What you described as a muay thai vs. aikido fight is, therefore, ridiculous. Aikido isn't meant for that purpose." CreationDate="2015-02-09T20:17:24.730" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9526" PostId="4778" Score="1" Text="add Russian Systema into the list there as well of things to avoid. It falls under contact-less fireballs knockouts.&#xA;&#xA;I myself practiced Kyokushin, which was my first MA. I wouldn't call it the ultimate form, but it gives a very strong basis on what to build on. Not forgetting the discipline and respect." CreationDate="2015-02-10T12:18:12.837" UserId="5571" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9527" PostId="4778" Score="1" Text="I once saw a Kyukushin practitioner take on 10 jackasses. He took down 5 with an axe kick and just kept going at the others until he got so aggressive he pulled his katana out of his car's trunk, at which point we had to stop him. It was beautiful and scary at the same time." CreationDate="2015-02-10T12:30:02.790" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9528" PostId="4778" Score="6" Text="-1. *sigh* Shodokan Aikido is taught at the [Osaka Police Academy](https://www.aikidojournal.com/article?articleID=109), Yoshinkan Aikido via the [Senshisei course](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senshusei_course) is taught to the Tokyo riot police. Your personal experience of Aikido might be different but it certainly is not only for play fighting girlfriends and picking on little brothers... I personally know and trained with military personal, police officers, and prison wardens that all effectively used Aikido in the field as part of their jobs." CreationDate="2015-02-10T13:11:49.393" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9529" PostId="4778" Score="2" Text="I would attribute the relative effectiveness of the Senshisei course more to the 33 hours of intensive training they undergo per week than the fact that they're training Aikido. Though I will concede that 33 hours of training per week for 11 months could get you to a point where Aikido (or a subset of it) is effective." CreationDate="2015-02-10T13:51:25.223" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9530" PostId="4778" Score="1" Text="maybe it's taught to police because they always take down a person in pairs? they trip the person over, and one officer locks the elbow, so the other can lock the wrist to handcuff." CreationDate="2015-02-10T13:55:13.447" UserId="5571" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9531" PostId="4770" Score="0" Text="You should read a source that is newer than 1928. Oxygen utilization in the body has many adaptive mechanisms (Such as neovascularization) to compensate for increased demand. If you gained 50% more muscle mass your body would adapt to compensate if you kept up the same cardio demands." CreationDate="2015-02-10T17:12:58.987" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9532" PostId="4778" Score="4" Text="While I agree with the idea that there are more immediately practical martial arts than aikido, I don't like to see people completely write it off like you've done here, and in a way that's condescending and arrogant (&quot;great for when you're play fighting with your girlfriend&quot;). Truth is, practicality is determined *entirely* by how you train. Train with non-compliant, fully resisting, live partners, and you'll be far better off than training by punching to the air. It's why the martial arts you list seem to do better. Knowing that, you can make Aikido work for you. Or anything for that matter." CreationDate="2015-02-10T18:48:10.233" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9533" PostId="4776" Score="2" Text="@Steve I disagree with your assertion about catching a hand during a fight. Most practitioners learn how to parry, and a catch starts with a parry. For someone trained a catch isn't that hard - especially as the punch usually has to travel further than the hand doing the trap/catch." CreationDate="2015-02-11T00:21:34.837" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9534" PostId="4755" Score="0" Text="I'm all for respect and discipline. Somebody can be respectful, disciplined, interested, and dedicated, and yet still be &quot;falling behind&quot; compared to quicker students. I was just commenting that the best goal of martial arts instruction is not necessarily or exclusively to &quot;make champions&quot; in a way that purposely weeds out under-performers early on." CreationDate="2015-02-11T00:32:01.800" UserId="698" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9535" PostId="4776" Score="0" Text="@slugster, I disagree with your disagreement. :) This can be easily explored by you showing up at a karate, TKD, boxing, MMA, Gracie JJ, Muay-thai, etc. kind of place. Anyone with reasonable punching skills. Their hands aren't going to be easy to catch. In fact, it will be impossible for you. Not only will it be impossible to catch, but even if you somehow talked them into going slow enough for you to catch it, you would find that their tightened fist and wrist would not permit you to use it in kote-gaeshi. Ain't gonna happen. You need to get them by surprise before it even begins." CreationDate="2015-02-11T02:30:19.877" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9536" PostId="4778" Score="2" Text="You're right of course. I won't deny it. But I feel it is my duty to lead the next generation in the right direction. There are only a handful of students who will ever have the time, money and will to undergo the Senshisei course, or go to train with the Shaolin monks. So for the rest of them to try Aikido or Kung Fu is a waste of time. They would be much better off trying one of the proven arts." CreationDate="2015-02-11T07:08:27.967" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9537" PostId="4778" Score="1" Text="Though, to be fair to Kung Fu, I've seen some really impressive dedication from masters and students alike." CreationDate="2015-02-11T07:10:52.997" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9538" PostId="4782" Score="0" Text="I asked him, but since he's Chinese and our English communication isn't the greatest, I'm not getting really any further. But I updated my question!" CreationDate="2015-02-11T14:58:53.303" UserId="4395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9539" PostId="3114" Score="0" Text="This is really broad. There are a lot of different passes and guard-openers, and they require different approaches." CreationDate="2015-02-12T08:45:18.627" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9540" PostId="4782" Score="0" Text="Ah, that makes sense. Maybe reach out to an instructor at a local college to see if he can assist you. I'm taking a Chinese language class that starts in a few weeks that only lasts for 6 weeks - my guess is many other colleges or universities would have a similar resource. Maybe ask your instructor to write down the formalities so you can better understand them, saying you're going to do some research on the characters (or ideograms). Just a thought." CreationDate="2015-02-12T16:01:37.283" UserId="1502" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9541" PostId="4778" Score="1" Text="You can keep downvoting me, but you can't prove me wrong." CreationDate="2015-02-13T07:09:23.990" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9542" PostId="4779" Score="0" Text="This seems like a general answer that does not answer the specific question." CreationDate="2015-02-13T13:40:39.783" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9543" PostId="4784" Score="0" Text="This is a decent description of several TKD kicks, but it really doesn't answer the question." CreationDate="2015-02-13T13:41:18.147" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9544" PostId="4740" Score="0" Text="Neutral vote on the ranting. It's at least mildly on-topic." CreationDate="2015-02-13T13:42:23.407" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9545" PostId="4787" Score="0" Text="See http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/2646/what-are-good-solutions-for-mma-training-with-half-long-hair?rq=1 (not a duplicate but similar question)" CreationDate="2015-02-15T20:27:35.580" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9546" PostId="4779" Score="0" Text="If it is a specific answer you 're looking for: Practice aikido three times a week for three to five years to be able to defeat a low level opponent(no martial arts experience) 5 or more to defeat a mid-level opponent (little or medium experience of martial arts - that is 2-3 years in a &quot;practical experience&quot; kind martial art) and if we assume that two masters of martial arts are fighting, one of the &quot;practical&quot; kind and one aikidoka, imo the aikido master WILL lose." CreationDate="2015-02-15T20:53:38.270" UserId="5582" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9547" PostId="4776" Score="0" Text="Once some guy warned me and my friend not to mess with him, because he was an &quot;aikido expert&quot;. That was pretty funny. He is lucky we didn't decide to wreck him. Real fights are determined by strikes to vulnerable areas such as the neck, eyes and knees--all forbidden in competition fighting styles. Try Thai fighting if you want to fight for real; Thai fighters are actually trying to kill each other; they have very short careers for that reason, but I can tell you: it works in the street." CreationDate="2015-02-16T05:02:40.553" UserId="5598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9548" PostId="4763" Score="0" Text="Skill is more important than size. Do not think some trick will win. Never forget what it says in the Book of Five Rings: &quot;Do not think dishonestly. The Way is in training.&quot;" CreationDate="2015-02-16T05:16:03.957" UserId="5598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9549" PostId="4787" Score="1" Text="I think it is a duplicate..." CreationDate="2015-02-16T07:09:22.530" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9550" PostId="4793" Score="0" Text="Do you guys at Kun Yu teach Tiger and Panther styles?" CreationDate="2015-02-16T22:10:53.830" UserId="5602" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9551" PostId="4793" Score="0" Text="^_^ I am not a member of the school. I was just quoting their website. But, off of their website, they only mention Leopard and Eagle claw styles." CreationDate="2015-02-16T23:28:58.017" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="9556" PostId="4794" Score="4" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is too localised." CreationDate="2015-02-17T07:48:43.553" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10557" PostId="4764" Score="1" Text="It would depend on the rules of the tournament, so no answer is possible." CreationDate="2015-02-17T14:21:17.103" UserId="660" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10559" PostId="4787" Score="0" Text="I still like the idea of using swim caps. Just make sure it's a comfortable fit, then cut out a hole out at the top to make it more breathable, or make swiss-cheese holes throughout. And yes, it's a duplicate of that thread where we talked about it. Cycling skull caps may not stay on your head as well as swim caps will. Your ear protection idea is good, though, but it might get too hot for general practice. Good maybe for tournaments where you're knocking heads around? Of course the better idea is to simply tie your hair down somehow." CreationDate="2015-02-17T18:26:56.000" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10560" PostId="4802" Score="0" Text="Well no, he teaches various levels of karate. He said he was only allowed to teach enough personal defense to get out of SOME situations. He's accredited to teach a lot more, and has to the LA Police Department. I know one of the other self defense classes is a disabled person's self defense class. There are three more, including a regular one that I'm in, yet somehow he said the school only permitted the kids to have basic self defense. We can go as far in any MA they offer and have as many classes of any MA as we want. He said the school would get mad for advancing kids at legit self defense" CreationDate="2015-02-18T03:15:24.403" UserId="1924" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10561" PostId="4802" Score="0" Text="Why don't you ask him to elaborate? Because it doesn't make sense. If kids can take any of the other classes, then there's no reason why they can't take all of them if they want. Unless you're saying that some of those classes are for adults only. In which case, I can understand that. You can't teach kids the same way as adults, for the most part, depending on the age of the kids. Past about age 13 or 14, they're pretty well ready to take adult classes. Age 18 might be required for knife and gun training, don't know. Insurance is another issue." CreationDate="2015-02-18T03:50:56.527" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10562" PostId="4802" Score="0" Text="Have friend take one of the other classes, then share the training between you two." CreationDate="2015-02-18T07:05:47.397" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10563" PostId="4802" Score="0" Text="Its a college so everyone is an adult. I think Bankuei gave a probable answer. That said, I should ask him to elaborate. Maybe I'll get an interesting answer if the subject of such liability is related to the legal issues of such MA training though." CreationDate="2015-02-18T07:18:59.813" UserId="1924" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10564" PostId="4804" Score="0" Text="That's also a good answer." CreationDate="2015-02-18T07:20:00.860" UserId="1924" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10565" PostId="4801" Score="3" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is too localised to one specific unamed school." CreationDate="2015-02-18T08:10:18.157" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10566" PostId="4801" Score="1" Text="We are **not** a forum, we are a questions and answer site. There is a big difference.  I edited your question to remove references to forums." CreationDate="2015-02-18T09:11:59.773" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10567" PostId="4792" Score="1" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because there are multiple questions and half of them are local to one school." CreationDate="2015-02-18T15:19:24.323" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10568" PostId="4793" Score="1" Text="@ItsMe - Here's a novel thought - Call the instructor and ask. I mean seriously, you are going to do a demanding, physical art and you don't even know what the school you have selected teaches? ::smh::" CreationDate="2015-02-18T15:20:03.737" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10570" PostId="4805" Score="0" Text="Thanks. But this is exactly the problem I have with charts: I have some problems believing that Aikido actually burns +35% more calories/hour than MMA. Also, I have trained for years with Iwama Ryu, and whenever I happen to work with Hombu-dojo people I had to work at a much faster pace while here everything is lumped together as &quot;Aikido&quot;. I was hoping that a fitness tracker could be more &quot;specific&quot; and &quot;reliable&quot;." CreationDate="2015-02-18T15:50:29.007" UserId="831" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10571" PostId="4804" Score="0" Text="Neutral vote for a good point about the possibility that some of these classes are limited to particular personnel mixed with a fair amount of conspiracy theory." CreationDate="2015-02-18T15:55:44.957" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10572" PostId="4805" Score="0" Text="@p.marino - Unless you can find a lab that did actual analysis and published it, all of them are going to be estimates. Most of these (from my experience in exercise kinesiology) are pretty accurate to what I would expect, as you say the MMA is low, but I don't know what they are considering as MMA training. If I were to shift them, I would put an MMA class nearer to kickboxing or jiu jitsu (Depending on the type of class), and I'd have capioera closer to aikido. The rest is fairly close to what I would expect." CreationDate="2015-02-18T15:57:13.420" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10573" PostId="4805" Score="0" Text="if you consider the value for Aikido &quot;reasonable&quot; I will be more than happy to use it for my own estimates, thanks." CreationDate="2015-02-18T17:57:58.880" UserId="831" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10574" PostId="4806" Score="0" Text="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Nelson_%28fighter%29 has a decent record." CreationDate="2015-02-18T21:06:13.703" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10575" PostId="4806" Score="1" Text="He studied kung-fu and karate when he was 16. He's a BJJ black belt under Renzo Gracie apparently. That appears to be his style. I've not seen really anything in his UFC fights that resembles kung-fu, but I could be wrong." CreationDate="2015-02-18T22:52:02.153" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10576" PostId="4806" Score="3" Text="There was Jason Delucia from the early UFC's. He's an interesting guy. He started out as a 5 Animals kung-fu stylist. A few years before his UFC 2 debut (where he was tapped out by Royce Gracie), he accepted the &quot;Gracie Challenge&quot; to come and fight the Gracies at their school. He lost, and so he trained there in BJJ (for over a month I think). It was the stuff he learned there that he used in UFC 2, even though he was billed as a &quot;kung-fu fighter&quot;. By then, he had completely discarded kung-fu." CreationDate="2015-02-18T23:00:22.450" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10577" PostId="4804" Score="0" Text="It's not really a &quot;conspiracy theory&quot;. The police are taught a brand of martial arts that they're not allowed to share with civilians. For the simple reason that they don't want you to figure out ways to fight back or resist arrest." CreationDate="2015-02-19T06:35:29.270" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10578" PostId="4807" Score="1" Text="Amazing answer Steve! Very informative! &#xA;Let's say that tt would be something like a Kung Fu fighter in UFC 1, who, after loosing his fight, never started to learn ground moves after losing. This would be nonsense. But this would never happened (as it really didn't happen), because Kung Fu would win anyways (in a Kung Fu thought), so, why to fight?&#xA;About your last statements, this expansion to China would maybe put a Kung-fu guy in a cage, like Lyoto Machida brings a Karate style to UFC. He does not fight pure Karate, but it is noticeable that he has his roots on this style." CreationDate="2015-02-19T11:39:15.433" UserId="5606" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10579" PostId="4806" Score="0" Text="I will search for Delucia's fight on UFC, thanks! I watched his underground fight with Gracie when I was searching about the topic's subject. He didn't even use his kung-fu on that occasion since he was taken to the ground very early." CreationDate="2015-02-19T11:51:02.037" UserId="5606" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10580" PostId="4807" Score="5" Text="Yes, everyone has seen Lyoto Machida. He dominated the UFC for a good amount of time. And he bases his strategy, his footwork, and most importantly his timing, on his karate background. But, he's also a BJJ black belt and has put a lot of time into training for MMA. He is pretty far from being &quot;pure&quot; karate, but clearly he has taken something very positive from his karate training. That's what MMA is about. It takes what you know, tests it, and if it doesn't work, you must change. More recently I've been seeing a lot of Taekwondo black belts doing well in the UFC and other MMA venues." CreationDate="2015-02-19T18:05:55.837" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10581" PostId="4806" Score="1" Text="A lot of times people complain about these sorts of fights. They say, &quot;He didn't even use such-n-such martial art. This fight shouldn't be taken seriously.&quot; The answer to that is that people find out very quickly what works and what doesn't in these cases. If they're not doing something that resembles kung-fu (or aikido, or karate, or whatever), then it's probably because they realized in that very moment that none of what they know would apply in this situation. Either that, or they simply didn't have enough time to show their style, which happens a lot also." CreationDate="2015-02-19T18:09:29.713" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10582" PostId="4809" Score="1" Text="Yeah, I was going to mention Cung Le in my answer as well. Sanda / sanshou is legit. It just doesn't look anything like what we think of as &quot;kung-fu&quot;." CreationDate="2015-02-19T23:05:00.370" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10583" PostId="2819" Score="2" Text="That doesn't really answer the question for him." CreationDate="2015-02-20T02:08:01.570" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10584" PostId="4809" Score="1" Text="After watch this Bullshido's Omega video, I came to a conclusion: When a guy steps into the ring, he will be fighting boxing (or something close to it). And I think the things that you and Steve said are true. When there's another opponent reacting, the whole story changes." CreationDate="2015-02-20T10:44:22.050" UserId="5606" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10585" PostId="4809" Score="2" Text="@ElMynx Kennedy &amp; Guo describe the Chinese Army coming to a similar conclusion in Chinese Martial Arts Training Manuals. Boxing doesn't have all the answers, but the basics of boxing and wrestling have proven themselves useful to all stylists." CreationDate="2015-02-20T11:33:49.617" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10586" PostId="4807" Score="2" Text="Admittedly, it does so within certain restrictions for safety, but they're pretty reasonable ones. If a style can't stand on its own without requiring throat punches and groin crushes..." CreationDate="2015-02-20T16:57:03.507" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10587" PostId="4807" Score="0" Text="Yes. And keep in mind that modern MMA has a lot more rules than older MMA did. The relaxed rules (allowing even kicks to the groin, fish-hooking, small joint manipulation, etc.) did not give the traditional fighters any better results. Now, it is dangerous to optimize for MMA rules, since it can leave holes in your defenses when it comes to real-life self-defense. That's why a lot of MMA people also did/do a self-defense oriented style like Gracie Jiujitsu." CreationDate="2015-02-20T20:29:58.883" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10588" PostId="1853" Score="0" Text="My current TKD style (Rhee, an offshoot of ITF) uses the ball of the foot, with toes pulled back to strike a Dollyo Chagi.  Earlier in my life I studied WTF TKD which taught us the Dollyo Chagi with the instep.   My preference is to strike with the instep because it runs a lower risk of hurting my toes." CreationDate="2015-02-24T00:35:51.320" UserId="5617" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10589" PostId="4812" Score="0" Text="Yes, the table above somehow does not look very convincing, at least for people over 70kg (and I already mentioned how some of the styles seems far off to me). On the other hand, I have experience only in Aikido, and I am no expert on sport medicine or calories expenditure... that's why I posted this question, actually." CreationDate="2015-02-24T15:00:53.043" UserId="831" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10590" PostId="4790" Score="0" Text="Found this: https://www.facebook.com/BlueLeafDojoAikido/posts/430595116987667 - we don't know how much the poster weights (and how &quot;intense&quot; their practice is) but at least it looks like it is somehow doable, the trick seems to be to use a Heart Monitor as suggested by Rob Gray, instead of a step counter." CreationDate="2015-02-24T15:10:37.437" UserId="831" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10591" PostId="4814" Score="0" Text="Well, I saw few variations in 'vaporizer' submission, and toe hold is one of them. Yet, I suppose both submissions target the calf as the main submitting area. Anyway, thanks a lot for providing your opinion." CreationDate="2015-02-26T02:26:33.283" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10592" PostId="4764" Score="0" Text="Welcome to MartialArts.SE! Your question is a little too broad to reasonably answer, so I have put it on hold. If it can be edited to make it more focused, than it can be easily reopened." CreationDate="2015-02-26T05:40:38.987" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10593" PostId="4815" Score="1" Text="This is a terrible answer. You do not provide any justification for your opinions, allude to unspecific sources of authority, and finish with some off topic material. *However, there is the potential to turn this into a good answer!* Provide evidence of the &quot;revealing similarities in techniques and forms&quot;. Provide example of the &quot;purposeful designed opposites in forms, and in philosophy&quot;. And, if some masters/grand master agree with you: name them." CreationDate="2015-02-26T08:19:31.763" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10594" PostId="4815" Score="1" Text="Welcome to the site! Please do not get discouraged by my earlier down vote.  I just want the answer to be a good. I suggest you looked at our [tour](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour) to learn how this site works." CreationDate="2015-02-26T08:21:26.540" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10595" PostId="4818" Score="0" Text="Have you ever trained or competed in judo?" CreationDate="2015-02-27T07:57:44.673" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10596" PostId="4820" Score="3" Text="Post some pictures of your blisters s well as you holding the sticks. that way we can tell whether your grip is right or not." CreationDate="2015-02-27T09:59:07.360" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10597" PostId="4820" Score="1" Text="Blisters are the way that the body protects itself from friction that it is unused to. Over time, you will develop callouses. Post your grip so we can tell if they will be forming in the correct places. :)" CreationDate="2015-02-27T15:02:56.677" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10598" PostId="4819" Score="3" Text="Yeah in our Judo club in high school (an offshoot of the British Judo Association), so long as you could hold your opponent in more or less the same position for 30 seconds (we had 30 seconds, but official rules are 25 seconds I think), it counted as a full point. It didn't even matter if you were in an official hold, so long as it was a hold. So there was a good deal of slack given to what a &quot;pin hold&quot; should actually look like. But that was our school. Not sure if it's the same in official olympic rules judo." CreationDate="2015-02-27T19:37:03.710" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10599" PostId="4819" Score="1" Text="@SteveWeigand I've never heard of any method except the kind you describe." CreationDate="2015-02-27T19:42:32.257" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10600" PostId="4818" Score="0" Text="I'm taking a beginner judo class at my college, and we have gone over most of the standard pins and turnovers, and have done a decent amount of randori. However many of the rules of competition judo were never explained, so I have mostly been reading through the IJF referee manual, which very thoroughly defines the rules. However I was a little unsure about this question, hence why I asked it. Thanks!" CreationDate="2015-02-27T22:55:18.877" UserId="5628" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10601" PostId="4818" Score="0" Text="Aha! That makes a lot of sense. Don't stress the exactness of a pin, just hold that squirming jerk down. :)" CreationDate="2015-02-28T07:56:29.510" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10604" PostId="4820" Score="1" Text="By the way, your diagram shows blister locations exactly where I would expect them. The locations aren't the problem. Your grip isn't the problem. Your problem is just your hand hasn't gone through enough / proper conditioning to get calluses. Later you'll get calluses on all of those points, and the blisters will no longer happen." CreationDate="2015-03-02T04:07:46.557" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10605" PostId="4820" Score="0" Text="Thank you! now, I will at least practice at home even just for 15 mins." CreationDate="2015-03-02T06:25:12.707" UserId="5630" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10607" PostId="4825" Score="4" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is too localised." CreationDate="2015-03-02T07:46:18.963" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10608" PostId="4825" Score="0" Text="Uh...I realised it now...it may be. I just need some help, that's all. Please don't. I don't have much to find my answer..." CreationDate="2015-03-02T10:20:05.167" UserId="5635" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10611" PostId="4825" Score="0" Text="Imagine yourself in my place, Sardathiron. Its so frustrating!" CreationDate="2015-03-02T10:22:15.227" UserId="5635" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10614" PostId="4825" Score="0" Text="I absolutely get it. However, this site rules are there for a reason. It is therefore not the best place to ask this question. You might have more luck in either rephrasing your question in more general terms (&quot;How can I go finding a X dojo?&quot; although that might be too broad) or looking elsewhere. Alternatively, [learn how to use Google](https://search.disconnect.me/searchTerms/serp?search=65705b80-4d64-406f-8c3d-732bfa023450)..." CreationDate="2015-03-02T11:17:38.780" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10615" PostId="4735" Score="0" Text="I'm rather surprised that this question is getting downvotes. &quot;When is a good time to land [specific technique]&quot; is a great question. And the point of kicks is to inflict damage to the opponent. I'm confused as to how these are even at issue." CreationDate="2015-03-02T11:32:30.083" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10616" PostId="4825" Score="0" Text="Uh...then can you gimme the link to the site rules? Cause I truly, really, literally and not sarcastically never knew that localised questions weren't allowed in this site. So...can you?" CreationDate="2015-03-02T13:21:55.150" UserId="5635" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10617" PostId="4825" Score="0" Text="And...the network here is too unsupporting to allow usage of Google Maps. I actually work with Kbps on a regular day, and right now its winter monsoon here." CreationDate="2015-03-02T13:24:08.267" UserId="5635" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10618" PostId="4825" Score="2" Text="The [tour](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour) and the [help centre](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help) are on the &quot;help&quot; menu at the top right of the page. On the [on-topic](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic) page, the first questions that should not be asked on Martial Arts is *recommendations for schools or teachers in area X (too localized)*. Sorry to hear about your network connectivity, that does suck." CreationDate="2015-03-02T13:46:05.723" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10619" PostId="4831" Score="0" Text="Head butt is not as debilitating as everyone thinks it is, especially at a distance of 2&quot;. Cupped hands to the ears, same, and cannot be effectively executed at that distance. Knee to the groin is dubious at best, especially at close range." CreationDate="2015-03-02T20:56:31.480" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10620" PostId="4735" Score="1" Text="@DaveLiepmann - Probably because his situations and descriptions are at odds with his actual question." CreationDate="2015-03-02T20:59:56.710" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10622" PostId="4725" Score="0" Text="Headbutts are not as effective as people think, especially from such close range. However, the rest of your advice is spot on. Show non agression, get your hands in a defensive position and as a priority, gain space between you and aggressor." CreationDate="2015-03-02T21:06:01.547" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10624" PostId="4825" Score="0" Text="I feel you. Xiao Yu's cute and cool. xD Google didn't help me find an instructor based in Dehli. Try looking for posters and flyers when you are already there. Some people here might also recommend someone to you if we wait." CreationDate="2015-03-02T07:40:04.110" UserId="5630" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10625" PostId="4831" Score="1" Text="I strongly disagree with the head butt comment, it's probably the most useful tool that upclose" CreationDate="2015-03-03T06:44:57.033" UserId="5638" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10626" PostId="4830" Score="0" Text="I was also looking for other martial arts. I think thatTaeKwonDo may be a good choice, but I believe that focuses on the leg-power more, and my feet don't seem to be so special. And I'm not interested in Karate, I dunno why though..." CreationDate="2015-03-03T06:58:29.773" UserId="5635" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10627" PostId="4830" Score="0" Text="Plus...I think that I'm progressing pretty good from those online vids..." CreationDate="2015-03-03T06:59:17.227" UserId="5635" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10630" PostId="4735" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann: When I train with a *partner*, I expect them to have my safety in mind. I am not doing martial arts to be beaten to a pulp, have my broken bones, my joints dislocated, and incur the risk of being either maimed or killed. If someone turned up to my club with the attitude to hurt their fellow members, they will be told to either change it right now or get out immediately. Surely that's not hard to grok? &quot;When is a good time to land [specific technique]&quot; is a great question, we agree on that. But that is **not** what is being asked here." CreationDate="2015-03-03T10:24:24.010" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10631" PostId="4830" Score="0" Text="I learnt taekwondo for 6 years, I am a bit partial to it. Don't look for speciality in your body, develop your specialities :). Try to find a good ITF school, it has a very active community with lots of tournaments in Delhi. Attend a sparring session and belt promotion test before deciding, these will give you a good idea of what the school/club is like. Give me further details of your location, and I will be able to assist you further." CreationDate="2015-03-03T11:36:57.603" UserId="5638" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10632" PostId="4735" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion It read to me that he was talking about disabling the leg in tournament (thus, the belt categories). In any case, having a numb leg for the duration of a fight is nowhere near a broken bone, dislocated joint, or being killed. You're being ridiculous. Don't downvote just because you don't like hard sparring." CreationDate="2015-03-03T12:48:42.897" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10633" PostId="4838" Score="2" Text="+1. Nice question, if maybe a little over broad. I edited your question slightly to make it easier to read. Let me know if I have changed your meaning?" CreationDate="2015-03-04T15:41:02.707" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10634" PostId="4838" Score="2" Text="No problem at all with the edit. I'm not a native English speaker, so, I know sometimes I can't express myself clearly. Thank you!" CreationDate="2015-03-04T16:41:33.107" UserId="5606" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10635" PostId="4839" Score="0" Text="I understand this but, actually I'm not a beginner. I could call my self as an &quot;intermediate&quot; fighting student and an &quot;intermediate&quot; gym guy (sorry for English). But, the fact is that, at least as an amateur fighting guy, I don't know anyone that really understand what kind of training is good and I don't know how to optimize the training for fighting and not for the visual aspect of the body. I'm returning to work out now and would be great to know if there is any good orientation for this. Thanks for the answer!" CreationDate="2015-03-04T16:48:34.137" UserId="5606" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10636" PostId="4839" Score="0" Text="Lift heavy weights then. You want to build strength, so focus on things like deadlifts and other exercises that make you stronger and focus on multiple muscle groups. Try this site and select &quot;Build Muscle&quot; http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/find-a-plan.html." CreationDate="2015-03-04T16:59:01.850" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10637" PostId="4838" Score="2" Text="If you think you can't express yourself clearly in English, wait until you see how unclear NATIVE english speakers can be." CreationDate="2015-03-05T07:27:20.853" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10638" PostId="4842" Score="2" Text="You need to find and attend a real school. You could use internet videos as reference material, but don't ever try to learn only from them. For example: that instructor has a lot of bouncing in his stretches. That might work for him, but bouncing a stretch can hurt beginners." CreationDate="2015-03-05T12:21:15.893" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10639" PostId="4842" Score="1" Text="@slugster: Your comment should be an answer, and it should be the accepted one at that. ^_~" CreationDate="2015-03-05T12:28:17.593" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10640" PostId="4842" Score="0" Text="Thanks @slugster for your advicce, i'll find a school or class for practice. I always think that doing something with others are much better than doing it alone." CreationDate="2015-03-05T12:40:51.770" UserId="5646" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10641" PostId="4843" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the answer. What do you mean when you say &quot;sets of 1 to 5&quot;? It would be how many time I would repeat the movement?" CreationDate="2015-03-05T22:33:54.263" UserId="5606" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10644" PostId="4844" Score="1" Text="linsead oil is a good option. We used to treat our cricket bats with it and it worked wonderfully." CreationDate="2015-03-06T08:39:06.013" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10645" PostId="4845" Score="0" Text="@Strauss: thanks for great helpful answer. I found that Taekwondo is popular in the world, but I'll consider but I'm familiar with kungfu" CreationDate="2015-03-06T09:26:41.350" UserId="5646" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10646" PostId="4848" Score="2" Text="Please be aware that you can change your identity, but the question is still off topic. We really do want to help people, but there are guidelines for questions which are there for a reason. Before you ask your next question please take the time to read the Meta post [*How to ask questions on MartialArts.SE*](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/168/70)." CreationDate="2015-03-07T00:33:03.517" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10647" PostId="4848" Score="0" Text="Also make sure you follow the links given in the close reason of your original question - the [Help center stuff](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic) is very easy to read and really quite helpful." CreationDate="2015-03-07T00:38:26.840" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10650" PostId="4840" Score="1" Text="Welcome to Martial Arts! I agree with your answer, but could you explain why the OP needs to stretch the muscles (after training)?" CreationDate="2015-03-07T15:12:29.097" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10651" PostId="4852" Score="1" Text="Related question [Overcoming fear/anxiousness and dealing with pain](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/4555/88) and [How does one mentally push past pain in training?](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/459/88)" CreationDate="2015-03-07T15:14:53.963" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10652" PostId="4840" Score="1" Text="During workout you perform contraction after contraction, your muscles are left in a shortened state. Which is bad thing if you train not only for looks but to actualy use it. Stretching helps to reset your body to a natural position and fastens recovery." CreationDate="2015-03-07T18:46:33.387" UserDisplayName="user5645" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10653" PostId="4840" Score="0" Text="Thank you for your explanation. You may want to add this to your answer (by clicking on the 'edit' button below it)." CreationDate="2015-03-08T07:54:11.767" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10654" PostId="4855" Score="4" Text="That's the **Wing Chun** martial arts training dummy." CreationDate="2015-03-07T05:31:34.247" UserDisplayName="Kneel-Before-ZOD" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10655" PostId="4855" Score="0" Text="That is a variant of a wing chun training dummy. I flagged the question for migration to martial arts, you will get some good responses from the WC practitioners there." CreationDate="2015-03-07T17:26:08.410" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10656" PostId="4856" Score="1" Text="That's from **The Arrow** tv show :p" CreationDate="2015-03-07T05:32:32.433" UserDisplayName="Kneel-Before-ZOD" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10657" PostId="4856" Score="0" Text="@Kneel-Before-ZOD It looks very control-oriented, though, which is something I haven't found good MMA exercises for. Trying one of these could be interesting." CreationDate="2015-03-07T12:24:42.740" UserDisplayName="TheEnvironmentalist" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10658" PostId="4856" Score="1" Text="@TheEnvironmentalist Read more about the Wing Chun fighting style *(hint: it's a close range fighting style)* and you'll understand the usage of this tool :)." CreationDate="2015-03-07T18:27:38.620" UserDisplayName="Kneel-Before-ZOD" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10659" PostId="4859" Score="1" Text="Do you know about [clinch techniques](http://www.muay-thai-guy.com/muay-thai-clinch-techniques.html)? Not that I am not an expert in Muay Thai so the link might not be the best one around or it could be.  I just don't know enough to tell." CreationDate="2015-03-09T11:14:02.573" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10660" PostId="4860" Score="0" Text="Well... Let's say if a Jiu Jitsu guy tries to grapple, take him down and submit him, then are there any defensive methods the muay thai fighter knows to defend himself from getting submitted?" CreationDate="2015-03-09T11:55:33.970" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10661" PostId="4859" Score="0" Text="Well. I know about clinching a bit, but what if he is taken to the ground? What if he has to struggle with a jiu jitsu guy or any other fighter who has practiced a grappling martial art like Judo or wrestling? I just want to know whether Muay thai teaches the ground game as well. (Not as advanced as Jiu Jitsu or Judo, but up to some extent?)" CreationDate="2015-03-09T12:00:02.783" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10662" PostId="4860" Score="1" Text="@SahanDeSilva &quot;Grapple&quot; could mean any one of at least a twenty **very different** attacks. Is the jiujitsiero going for a low single leg, or a jumping guard pull after establishing a collar-and-elbow clinch, or an Imanari roll into a heel hook, or an over-under clinch followed by uchimata? None of those are remotely similar, and the defenses vary greatly no matter what art you train. You need to be more specific than &quot;grapple&quot;." CreationDate="2015-03-09T12:06:54.707" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10663" PostId="4859" Score="3" Text="That's easy: I've never heard of any muay Thai training groundwork in any substantial fashion." CreationDate="2015-03-09T12:07:31.133" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10664" PostId="2057" Score="3" Text="Watch: [Fight Science - Qi Gong Tested](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tb8bWbA678) at National Geographic" CreationDate="2015-03-09T16:05:55.953" UserId="615" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10665" PostId="4863" Score="2" Text="That video demonstrated that the monk could withstand these blows, not that &quot;chi&quot; allowed him to. Because the monk calls it &quot;chi&quot; does not make it true. He was probably taught these skills since a very young age and truly believes them to be mystical, or maybe he simply is lying... Also, because the show calls itself &quot;Fight Science&quot; doesn't automatically make it scientific..." CreationDate="2015-03-09T17:12:21.650" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10666" PostId="4831" Score="0" Text="No. At 2&quot; away, you don't really have the space to get leverage enough to make it a debilitating type of strike. Also, you have to be at the right height in comparison to your opponent. Walk up to a wall and have your nose about 1/2 - 1&quot; from wall. Now try to whack the wall with your head without drawing your head back. (Drawing your head back signals the attack, and places you in a VERY vulnerable position). Again, at 2&quot;, a headbutt is a dubious proposition at best." CreationDate="2015-03-09T17:38:39.040" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10667" PostId="4863" Score="1" Text="So qi is heat? Or is it getting speared in the neck? Or is it pushing? Or is it breaking bricks? I'm confused." CreationDate="2015-03-09T19:27:36.407" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10670" PostId="4860" Score="0" Text="Forget about grappling then. How about ground game? Imagine both muay thai fighter and jiu jitsu fighter end up on the ground. From there onward, who has the upper hand? Is muay thai fighter at a greater risky disadvantage?" CreationDate="2015-03-10T02:43:21.223" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10671" PostId="4860" Score="0" Text="@SahanDeSilva I mean, BJJ generally spends 75 to 90% of training time on ground grappling, and muay Thai spends approximately 0 to 5%. So..." CreationDate="2015-03-10T07:10:08.403" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10672" PostId="4861" Score="0" Text="Your usage of the bold on sport seems to suggest a derision for the word. Am I right?" CreationDate="2015-03-10T07:49:57.233" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10673" PostId="4861" Score="2" Text="@Sardathrion (Had to look it up: &quot;contemptuous ridicule or mockery&quot;) Haha, no not at all. Just wanted to point out that a sport doesn't have to include answers to techniques that are not allowed. The bold was to contrast it to a martial art that should prepare the practitioner for all kinds of situations." CreationDate="2015-03-10T08:48:32.703" UserId="718" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10675" PostId="4831" Score="0" Text="I agree with what you say thanks for your input. I should daze the opponent at least ? Wont any kind of movement from that range will be picked up on ? Except Maybe you could stomp a foot.., or trap one of the opponents feet beneath yours and push away to make him fall, then make your escape." CreationDate="2015-03-10T09:19:40.527" UserId="5638" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10676" PostId="4860" Score="0" Text="Well then!! I can conclude that Muay thai doesn't teach much about ground game, right? Ok. Thanks for the info: :)" CreationDate="2015-03-10T10:20:12.563" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10677" PostId="4865" Score="2" Text="It's not a good idea.  The technical differences between the two will throw you off.  There is a high probability the techniques of the two will blend and you will not be able to separate the two in practice.  You might actually be better off training two *completely* different styles if you must train multiple martial arts e.g. Kali and Kyokushin.  Otherwise, both of your teachers will yell at you." CreationDate="2015-03-10T16:44:35.393" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10678" PostId="4865" Score="0" Text="Okay, I know a very little bit of both. To me they seemed similar style except that Tae Kwon Do is total Kicks and Kyokushin Karate is total body conditioning." CreationDate="2015-03-10T17:43:31.313" UserDisplayName="user4430" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10679" PostId="4865" Score="2" Text="They are similar enough that you can get the two confused, but different enough that getting them confused is a problem.  If you know what to look for, the kicks of TKD are actually quite different from Kyokushin kicks.  A beginner has a high probability of confusing the two.  You would stand less of a chance of getting confused if you did, say, TKD and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu because there isn't much technical overlap." CreationDate="2015-03-10T17:51:25.863" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10680" PostId="4865" Score="0" Text="What are your opinion about my 3rd question ?" CreationDate="2015-03-10T19:45:22.583" UserDisplayName="user4430" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10681" PostId="4867" Score="1" Text="I wish I could up vote that answer as correct and suitable to my queries but am lacking reputation points here.&#xA;&#xA;Thank You for such detailed opinion." CreationDate="2015-03-11T08:09:47.290" UserDisplayName="user4430" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10683" PostId="4865" Score="0" Text="@TheWudangKid Your comment would make a good answer." CreationDate="2015-03-11T12:33:07.110" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10685" PostId="4868" Score="0" Text="True. And according to the provided answers, if muay thai starts teaching grappling and ground game, then it'll turn out to be a MMA." CreationDate="2015-03-12T07:57:18.617" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10686" PostId="4876" Score="0" Text="Rather than a rubber band, which does return to shape unless it actually snaps (or is very old), I usually compare them to the springs in click pens. You can compress easily, but if you pull them out of shape, they don't go back to their original length. All in all a very good answer." CreationDate="2015-03-14T09:56:26.733" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10687" PostId="4865" Score="0" Text="Also, TKD is not &quot;total kicks&quot;. I would put it at about 60-65% emphasis on foot techniques over hands. Don't be fooled by a very specific (Olympic) sparring style where the rules reward a specific skill set." CreationDate="2015-03-14T09:59:28.537" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10688" PostId="4848" Score="0" Text="&quot;Here in Japan&quot;, but in your other question you state you live in China. Which is it?" CreationDate="2015-03-14T10:06:22.617" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10689" PostId="4873" Score="16" Text="It's too late to start when you're dead, any time before that is good, obviously the sooner the better!" CreationDate="2015-03-14T11:05:23.190" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10690" PostId="4875" Score="3" Text="This would belong better on fitness.stackexchange.com." CreationDate="2015-03-14T12:52:01.210" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10691" PostId="4877" Score="4" Text="Completely agree with this, Dave. So many people put off doing martial arts because they believe they're not in shape enough to start. I think it comes from anxiety. They think they'll be laughed at or teased. It's not true. No beginner is expected to be able to walk into a martial arts school and be particularly good at anything the first day. Or even the first year. And the type of conditioning you can do on your own often doesn't translate well into the types of physical activities you do once you're in a martial art. So don't wait. Just do it." CreationDate="2015-03-14T13:25:57.317" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10692" PostId="4875" Score="0" Text="I think is relevant to martial arts since involve a rather common exercise in each warm up. My traumatologist said is also a not so uncommon injury among martial artists. (And they would reach first here, before fitness)" CreationDate="2015-03-14T17:24:42.830" UserId="5676" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10693" PostId="4876" Score="0" Text="I would like to point that the first injury it seems it was due forward bending and the later due backward bending (I still can't edit the question). But overall an excellent answer. I'm more interested in groin flexibility since there's some kicks I could do better. Still some of those stretchings involve forward bending, I will take care about that." CreationDate="2015-03-14T17:31:03.647" UserId="5676" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10694" PostId="4876" Score="0" Text="Yeah, but forward/back bending is &quot;normal use&quot; of the spine and not like a car accident or sudden whiplash or similar injury-inducing effect.  So this is more about hyperflexion/extension and wearing down of the ligament than sudden tears.  You should also have your PT check the angle of your hip sockets - some ppl cannot get full splits or beyond a certain ROM in the hips because of their bone structure - they often try to make up the difference by torquing the spine to change the hip angle." CreationDate="2015-03-14T17:41:16.717" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10695" PostId="4869" Score="1" Text="Thanks for answering taking different aspects into consideration." CreationDate="2015-03-15T20:49:49.807" UserDisplayName="user4430" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10696" PostId="4878" Score="0" Text="So there's no tear in the glove? It's just that the velcro has worn so much that it no longer works?" CreationDate="2015-03-16T03:13:25.680" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10697" PostId="4878" Score="0" Text="Exactly, there's almost no grip. After a couple of hard shots, the band comes off and sometimes scratches the other guy's face, so it's something I want to fix fast, without having to buy new gloves." CreationDate="2015-03-16T07:55:30.580" UserId="3194" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10698" PostId="4875" Score="0" Text="It's a good question, but the scope of it reads as one that fits better on Fitness rather than Martial Arts. I can see this being more applicable to a wider audience beyond martial arts." CreationDate="2015-03-16T11:27:51.727" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10700" PostId="4877" Score="1" Text="I agree! Except about conditioning. Lots of people--most people--need remedial physical preparation before engaging in good hard training. Basic strength and mobility work can provide that. But that doesn't mean those people should wait, it means that martial arts schools should provide an on-ramp physical preparation program." CreationDate="2015-03-16T16:44:53.063" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10701" PostId="4877" Score="3" Text="When I started Karate, I had never done any fitness training at all.  I nearly passed out from exhaustion in my second session, but I stuck with it, and within a few weeks could keep up with everyone else.  Training in the martial art will get you fit enough to train in the martial art." CreationDate="2015-03-17T23:10:29.150" UserId="1262" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10702" PostId="4877" Score="0" Text="@MontyWild Teenagers, particularly teenage males, are better suited than just about any other population to adapt and thrive in response to physical stress of this sort. When someone who is 40 with kyphosis and degenerated joints and so inflexible they can't touch their toes tries to just dive into judo or hard-sparring karate the answer is often injury, not adaptation." CreationDate="2015-03-18T00:27:34.077" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10703" PostId="4883" Score="1" Text="&quot;Weight training makes you powerful but slow.&quot; This is not true for many forms of weight training." CreationDate="2015-03-18T00:36:34.487" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10705" PostId="4884" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site! This is a nice question indeed and I do hope that you a good answer to it." CreationDate="2015-03-18T08:07:14.673" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10706" PostId="4883" Score="1" Text="I have fond memories of the candle drill... I knocked a lit candle across a crowded restaurant once when trying to impress the girlfriend at the time with that technique. Good times :)" CreationDate="2015-03-18T12:03:39.010" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10707" PostId="4888" Score="1" Text="-1. This looks and smells like spam and even if it were not, it is subject to link rot." CreationDate="2015-03-19T10:44:40.173" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10708" PostId="4873" Score="0" Text="No age is &quot;too late&quot;; I only barely understand the thought process that makes someone think it might be. There's no sense in waiting until you're in &quot;really good shape&quot;, either." CreationDate="2015-03-19T13:17:47.133" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10709" PostId="4891" Score="0" Text="Did you look at the pictures on the link you placed? His middles stick WAY out past his bottom (striking) knuckles, and in most of those he's punching down, which would naturally reduce that effect. [Punching Angle](https://www.evernote.com/shard/s3/sh/a440fa4f-6439-42b8-971e-d052f50cb260/0140ed2d2503616ae298ce412ac9be0f) Speaking of which, it's not really possible to strike at face level straight on unless their face is at your shoulder, right? So why would I practice that?" CreationDate="2015-03-19T14:00:18.557" UserId="3105" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10710" PostId="4891" Score="0" Text="If you will read the post again, you'll see that that article is about thumb position and squeezing the knuckles together, not about which knuckles protrude.  That was a separate point that I was making.  Since you already know what to do, practice whatever you feel is best." CreationDate="2015-03-19T14:12:19.627" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10711" PostId="4887" Score="0" Text="Um...what do you want to do? What kind of grab are we talking about? Gi, no-gi, self-defense, MMA? Did he stand up, or are we looking at when he just put a knee up? If he stood up, did he open your guard or are you hanging?" CreationDate="2015-03-19T14:16:59.533" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10712" PostId="4891" Score="0" Text="Please, I did not mean to anger or dismiss you, and I apologize if the way I wrote implied that was my goal (re-reading I can absolutely understand why you would have taken it this way). But the article you linked to doesn't seem to say what you think it does. Thumb position is only brought up near the end and introduced with the sentence &quot;What doesn’t matter much at all is the position of the thumb.&quot; I'm genuinely just trying to figure out why this isn't a problem for anyone else." CreationDate="2015-03-19T14:24:59.240" UserId="3105" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10713" PostId="4891" Score="1" Text="This is the part of the article I most wanted to draw attention to: &quot;When making a fist with the thumb tucked under and bracing the third knuckles of the forefinger and middle finger, as in Shotokan and most Shorin styles, care must be taken to leave the thumb relaxed, but not so relaxed as to hang below the fist. If the thumb is tense, it acts as a lever pulling the bones at the base of the hand apart. Contact in that case can result in lower hand and wrist injuries.&quot;  The quote you gave is somewhat contradictory to the author's main point since he *does* in fact care about thumb position." CreationDate="2015-03-19T14:40:44.790" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10714" PostId="4891" Score="0" Text="However, this may be beside the point, since division of knuckles seems not to be your primary issue.  That last point was an aside.  The main thing I wanted to express was forming a flat fist following the curling method I outlined above." CreationDate="2015-03-19T14:42:46.050" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10715" PostId="4894" Score="0" Text="I think you and I have very different definitions of &quot;trivial&quot; when it comes to metal and wood working. :-)" CreationDate="2015-03-19T14:56:23.560" UserId="3105" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10716" PostId="4892" Score="0" Text="I suspect he may be scraping his knuckles while throwing hooks and crosses." CreationDate="2015-03-19T15:43:08.767" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10717" PostId="4892" Score="0" Text="@JuannStrauss Hm, yes; hooks in particular could do that if they're not landing flush or they're grazing before solid contact. Still... I've not really seen this happen. Maybe the bag is particularly rough." CreationDate="2015-03-19T16:25:45.303" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10718" PostId="4887" Score="0" Text="No gi. &#xA;&#xA;He is looking to stand up and starts with one leg, but I still have his head and can reach for the leg.  I looked up the flower sweep and that looks like a viable path, it starts off in a similar position.&#xA;&#xA;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g77ug2T0Kao @ 46 seconds is basically the position I was in, but he was trying to get up with the leg I grab." CreationDate="2015-03-19T20:38:31.083" UserId="5687" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10719" PostId="4890" Score="2" Text="Have you tried bag gloves? They're not boxing gloves. I'm talking about the kind that's really very thin, not the padded kind of bag glove. Something like this: https://www.vintagetoys.com/toys/classified/2359" CreationDate="2015-03-20T01:56:07.707" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10720" PostId="4892" Score="0" Text="Although I think I misunderstood. I think the OP is more concerned about the fact that his knuckles (the right ones) aren't making contact first." CreationDate="2015-03-20T07:22:43.907" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10721" PostId="4892" Score="0" Text="Happens with all punches thrown with any power. My main goal really is to stop getting blood on the public use bags. :-) The more I look into it with academic rigor, the more I realize that there's no way those knuckles won't make some contact with the bag (for anyone). My suspicion now is that few traditional martial artists train with a bag, and everyone who does (boxers, MMA, Kickboxing) generally wears boxing gloves while doing so." CreationDate="2015-03-20T13:25:55.457" UserId="3105" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10722" PostId="4892" Score="0" Text="@grovberg A makiwari or similar is used across many arts; rarely used with gloves as one of its purposes is to condition the knuckles for striking. I mean, bag gloves are pretty common when doing bag work of impact, and their primary purpose is to protect the skin. An uncoated canvas bag is fairly abrasive." CreationDate="2015-03-20T13:36:37.480" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10723" PostId="4892" Score="0" Text="Though it is worth noting that makiwari are usually set to shoulder height so that you CAN strike it perfectly perpendicular. It's also the case that jacking up your hand and bleeding all over it is considered part of the experience of a makiwari. I never really thought about it before, but I'm realizing that most Japanese/Okinawan martial arts (that I'm familiar with anyway) teach you to punch at shoulder height, which is kind of weird since that's rarely a good target. I think you're right that, despite my reservations, bag gloves are my only real option." CreationDate="2015-03-20T14:12:41.497" UserId="3105" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10724" PostId="4890" Score="2" Text="@SteveWeigand I wish you had submitted this as an answer rather than a comment, because I think it's the correct answer." CreationDate="2015-03-20T14:14:45.117" UserId="3105" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10725" PostId="4892" Score="0" Text="@grovberg Makiwaras are for conditioning, not sparring. The katas have strikes at varying heights. (I might also argue that shoulder height is about half-way between two primary targets, the head and torso, so splits the difference.)" CreationDate="2015-03-20T14:26:21.543" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10726" PostId="4890" Score="0" Text="Haha. No problem. Give it a try and see how it goes. Just make sure the ones you get have no padding. You'll actually have better luck if you look for the cheapest ones you can find. The more expensive kinds have padding and individual finger guides, etc. Those are a nice idea, but it works best when it's just a mitten (no fingers) and no padding. I also think vinyl is the best material." CreationDate="2015-03-20T17:48:49.980" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10727" PostId="4897" Score="4" Text="Maybe he's strong enough to wield a war hammer." CreationDate="2015-03-21T12:41:20.093" UserId="718" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10728" PostId="4898" Score="0" Text="But there in lies another problem, he's not a push over. He's a very skilled wrestler with expertise in dominating grappling on the floor and even though I could dodge his punch any day of the week, a connecting hit would shatter my jaw. When we spar, he wants to use brute force to over power me, leaving him vulnerable to throws. Also, he's very heavy but almost none of him is body fat." CreationDate="2015-03-21T15:41:33.077" UserId="5691" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10729" PostId="4897" Score="2" Text="I have seen him bench press his body weight so that is both likely and funny." CreationDate="2015-03-21T17:04:41.313" UserId="5691" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10730" PostId="4861" Score="0" Text="I thought Muay Thai was invented centuries ago by the Thai army and then adapted INTO a sport in modern times." CreationDate="2015-03-21T17:08:41.303" UserId="5691" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10734" PostId="4897" Score="4" Text="I voted to close as over broad because you never tell us what your friend's goals in learning (another) martial art are. Military self defence? LEO self defence? Competition? Fitness? Having fun? ... What are they looking for? Without that, I can justify *any martial art whatsoever as being the &quot;best&quot;*. That does include fencing, bow shooting, and jousting!" CreationDate="2015-03-23T07:51:26.317" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10735" PostId="4861" Score="0" Text="@KingsAdviser Yes, Muay Boran and Krabi Krabong  are the traditional arts. Muay Thai is the sport." CreationDate="2015-03-23T11:23:30.117" UserId="718" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10737" PostId="4901" Score="2" Text="It's a fine age to start. Just do it." CreationDate="2015-03-23T20:16:58.233" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10738" PostId="4901" Score="2" Text="Go ahead and do it, and see if it suits you." CreationDate="2015-03-23T21:52:14.247" UserId="3234" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10743" PostId="4897" Score="0" Text="Sorry, he wants to learn something because he has lost a street fight before because he is only used to a competition setting. He won't tell me what happened, he could've been mugged by someone more trained than either of us, so I want to protect someone so close that people call us brothers, both by teaching him how to fight someone who doesn't use &quot;fair play &quot; and how to mentally discipline himself to deal with a loss like that." CreationDate="2015-03-27T02:21:00.143" UserId="5691" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10749" PostId="4888" Score="0" Text="Welcome to Martial Arts! We discourage link-only answers here because links tend to break and then your answer becomes worthless. Please explain in your own words why this would be a good option for the OP." CreationDate="2015-03-29T06:02:13.260" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10750" PostId="2646" Score="1" Text="Well, I am a girl, i have hair that comes up to my top of my shoulders, barely touching it, I always have issues with hair ties, so they dont work. And since im a girl, I would rather not cut my hair to short, I havent tried plating or knotting it, so that may work but, with a hard graple, I doubt it will give you the coverage you need." CreationDate="2015-03-27T12:02:01.103" UserDisplayName="user5706" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10751" PostId="4897" Score="0" Text="Welcome to MA.SE! As it stands this question is too broad for the reasons stated by Sardathrion. In general, this sort of question revolves more around the specific school than it does around the *art* and the answers to &quot;what style should I practice&quot; are generally more discussion oriented than ones that [have answers](http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2011/01/real-questions-have-answers/)." CreationDate="2015-03-30T02:56:15.467" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10752" PostId="4914" Score="1" Text="Please avoid asking &quot;polling&quot; type questions as they lead to subjective discussion rather than objective answers.  However, there is a good question here if you will instead ask &quot;Can MA negatively affect posture&quot;." CreationDate="2015-03-30T13:15:55.723" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10755" PostId="4915" Score="0" Text="The answers to this question pertain directly to your question: http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/2771/training-footwork-for-people-with-knee-issues/" CreationDate="2015-03-30T14:29:36.040" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10756" PostId="4914" Score="1" Text="Have your doctor test for osteoporosis. Or tell him there's something wrong with your posture and you'd like to know what's wrong. He'll know which questions to ask and which tests to do. If anything, Martial Arts will dramatically improve your posture as your core muscles are strengthened and your suppleness improves." CreationDate="2015-03-30T15:24:47.153" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10757" PostId="4916" Score="0" Text="Brilliant post and reference. It looks like a combination of a lot of things including MA. I found out trough that podcast, I run wrong, walk wrong, lift wrong,and perform a lot of moves wrong. No wonder I get back pain!!!" CreationDate="2015-03-30T16:17:10.353" UserId="5571" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10758" PostId="2653" Score="0" Text="@BartBurg, please announce it if you do, I ended up cutting my hair short after all the struggle I had :)" CreationDate="2015-03-30T16:59:36.957" UserId="1239" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10759" PostId="4915" Score="1" Text="With the excellent answers below, it's also a good idea to look at form. It is possible that you are hyperextending your leg when you kick due to new/bad form. Get some video of you practicing and go through it with your sabumnim." CreationDate="2015-03-30T22:23:48.750" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10760" PostId="4918" Score="0" Text="Is 'groin stretch' a legal move?" CreationDate="2015-03-31T02:32:51.360" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10761" PostId="4918" Score="1" Text="As far as I know, it's legal at all belt levels for adults." CreationDate="2015-03-31T02:51:05.143" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10763" PostId="4916" Score="1" Text="Just wanted to add, I talked today to a &quot;new school&quot; kickboxing champion in Ireland today (we work together). He said that anyone who has started training 10+ years ago was practicing &quot;old school&quot; MA, where emphasis was always on technique and sparring, with very little emphasis on the fitness itself.&#xA;&#xA;He described/predicted my warm up and exercise routine in Keyokushin, as if he has been at my club for whole of his life, and pointed out how much was missing.&#xA;He advised to do some yoga, which not only will fix posture, but also increase reach and flexibility." CreationDate="2015-03-31T11:02:36.407" UserId="5571" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10764" PostId="4914" Score="0" Text="I think osteoporosis is out of the question, because I took some heavy blows and falls during training in awkward positions with no breakages, and the only time I broke my bones were my nose of a door frame and my arm after a fall of a roof, and my finger when I tried to block a kick from a guy who was about 40kg heavier than me :/" CreationDate="2015-03-31T11:09:12.703" UserId="5571" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10765" PostId="4873" Score="1" Text="As for competitions :  its not too late either, its actually a good age. You wont dominate junior years, but consider my case : I started at 5 years old, by 16 I was my country's champion and training 6 days a week, and by 20 I was burned out when I realized I still had 6 or 7 solid years of training ahead of me before the olympics ... so yea, 15 means you can have up to 10 years of training and you'll still be in your &quot;prime&quot; for the olympics or world championship (if such is your goal )." CreationDate="2015-03-31T15:48:41.797" UserId="1526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10767" PostId="4918" Score="2" Text="I love this move, it's one of my &quot;go to&quot; moves from half guard / lockdown.  I very rarely get the tap on the groin stretch, but depends on the person a fair bit.  But super effective as a sweep." CreationDate="2015-04-01T03:43:37.613" UserId="8" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10768" PostId="4918" Score="0" Text="I have seen another submission same as 'Electric Chair' which is called 'Banana Split'. If am not mistaken, that submission also works on groin stretching." CreationDate="2015-04-01T03:47:58.493" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10769" PostId="4925" Score="0" Text="Thank you for your clear explanation. I am indeed serious in asking these because I admit my ignorance in this matter. Thank you for taking me seriously too." CreationDate="2015-04-01T07:00:10.857" UserId="5630" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10771" PostId="4919" Score="0" Text="Agree with all, but this answer would be better with information on &quot;Starting Strength&quot; or at least where to find that information." CreationDate="2015-04-01T16:32:14.673" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10772" PostId="4919" Score="0" Text="@TimothyAWiseman I find that the minimum information is either extremely extensive or just a link." CreationDate="2015-04-01T18:08:37.943" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10773" PostId="4915" Score="1" Text="I recommend stopping all activity that causes knee pain, first. Second, head to a sports medicine doctor or physical therapist to figure out what's going on. You might have a serious knee issue. TKD can cause long-term chronic knee injury, even if you're doing right with the right form. Sorry to tell you that. Yes, weight training helps (squats in particular). But have a PT prescribe the exercises. Don't just think you can try stuff on your own. This is serious stuff. Do not go back to TKD until you've figured it out. I can't emphasize that enough." CreationDate="2015-04-02T03:30:12.970" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10774" PostId="4928" Score="0" Text="Thanks, but &quot;Baston&quot; is English word, right?  I was looking for some original filipino term... This one seems latin/english according to Merriam Webster: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/baston: *&quot;Definition of BASTON: baton; a convex round molding :  torus. Origin of BASTON: Middle English, from Old French, from Late Latin bastum stick, staff, probably from (assumed) Vulgar Latin bastare to carry, from Greek bastazein to lift, carry&quot;*" CreationDate="2015-04-02T12:10:18.750" UserId="93" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10775" PostId="4928" Score="1" Text="http://www.tagalog-dictionary.com/cgi-bin/search.pl?s=baston" CreationDate="2015-04-02T12:11:32.213" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10776" PostId="4928" Score="0" Text="OK, thanks! Tagalog in fact contains lot of words from English and Spanish, so they probably took it from English... but it's kind of strange because they already had these sticks when first colonizers came there... so I would expect more ancient, non-English term." CreationDate="2015-04-02T12:20:22.773" UserId="93" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10777" PostId="4930" Score="0" Text="If you have no family doctor or GP, go to your local walk-in clinic.  Honestly, go to whichever one will get you in quickest.  Don't mess around with thumb injuries." CreationDate="2015-04-02T17:12:00.873" UserId="5713" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10778" PostId="4930" Score="0" Text="As it turns out, it's fine, but I'm buying lunch for a stage combat instructor today in exchange for some advice on not repeating this in the future." CreationDate="2015-04-03T12:53:22.997" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10779" PostId="4927" Score="2" Text="For what style/language? Every language is going to have a different term for &quot;stick to whack people with&quot;" CreationDate="2015-04-06T22:31:55.323" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10780" PostId="4931" Score="0" Text="thanks, I think this is the answer - there's no special term. But I don't agree with the historical point - they used machettes, no swords in Philippines." CreationDate="2015-04-07T20:26:02.053" UserId="93" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10781" PostId="2963" Score="0" Text="Agree with the last comment. I have been looking for supplemental exercises for years until I realized, &quot;the more you roll the better your cardio&quot;. Explosive interval training with weights or just plain body weight gives you a little edge!!! Google fartlek and train like that. Best advice I can give is &quot;breath when you train&quot; and become aware of your breathing. Do some yoga breathing exercises 5 minutes daily after your fartlek exercise or rolling and you will see a 15% increase in your cardio on the mat in no time." CreationDate="2015-04-07T00:24:04.783" UserDisplayName="user5732" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10782" PostId="4931" Score="0" Text="They used all sorts of weapons. Swords included. Here is one of my favorites. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kampilan" CreationDate="2015-04-08T05:17:45.187" UserDisplayName="user5645" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10790" PostId="614" Score="2" Text="slugster's point about being Daddy, not Sensei is spot on; I regularly teach a class that my children are in and they can be the most challenging students!" CreationDate="2015-04-10T10:57:41.560" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10793" PostId="4940" Score="2" Text="You also may have the hip structure which prevents 180 splits, period.  The angle of your ball-socket joint may prevent it - there's no way to stretch through your bone contacting bone barrier.  You may want to talk to a sports trainer or PT to see if that is the case.  In which case, you will know that there is a limit and you can work on other areas of your training instead." CreationDate="2015-04-10T18:15:49.383" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10802" PostId="2058" Score="0" Text="Since this is becoming a go-to question for duplicate questions on Qi, I would like to weigh in here:  While I agree with the claim that it is most likely explainable with physics rather than metaphysics, I disagree that it is just &quot;good ol' body mechanics.&quot;  I have found, in my journey, that things described of as &quot;Qi&quot; turn out to be particularly hard to accomplish as body mechanics, suggesting they deserve better treatment than a simple write-off.  They appear to be body mechanics that are extremely difficult to acquire without giving them an energetic name like Qi." CreationDate="2015-04-12T18:01:13.550" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10803" PostId="2978" Score="1" Text="If you're limited in your choices, go for the best instructor you can find, not for a particular art A or B." CreationDate="2015-04-12T18:34:43.613" UserDisplayName="user1972" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10804" PostId="1263" Score="0" Text="Maybe it's like that where you live. I practiced Krav Maga in Brazil, where there's a federation and affiliated instructors are required to have at least a green belt, which means at least 3 years, and they have to attend a dedicated course that lasts for a year. If they don't have formal PE education, they have to go through a certified course on that too." CreationDate="2015-04-12T18:40:34.597" UserDisplayName="user1972" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10805" PostId="2171" Score="2" Text="If your life is in real danger and your choice is between going to jail or staying alive, then maybe it makes sense to say you should not give this any concern. If it's not a life threatening situation, ignoring the law is the easiest way to find yourself as a new entry in the prison system." CreationDate="2015-04-12T19:48:52.447" UserDisplayName="user1972" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10806" PostId="2170" Score="1" Text="This isn't a direct answer to the question, but it's sound advice. Very nice. I might also add that you should never put the attacker in a position that he has no choice other than fighting you." CreationDate="2015-04-12T19:54:05.417" UserDisplayName="user1972" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10807" PostId="1969" Score="0" Text="+1 for emphasizing the natural resilience to kill. Anyone interested in martial arts, military history and self-defense should read Col. Dave Grossman book, On Killing. For anyone who isn't a psychopath, shooting another human being -- even in self-defense -- is not like shooting a paper target." CreationDate="2015-04-12T23:53:56.260" UserDisplayName="user1972" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10808" PostId="2058" Score="0" Text="Go ask a Chinese person what &quot;Qi&quot; means. You will be surprised." CreationDate="2015-04-13T07:23:48.183" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10812" PostId="2170" Score="1" Text="@PedroWerneck: The advice about giving the attacker the option to flee is in fact mentioned in The Art of War, one of the best books that I've ever read. It is terrific advice, both for men against other men but also for nations against other nations. Thank you for mentioning it. The best way not to loose a fight is not to get in one, and the best way not to get in a fight is to give the other side a way out without loosing their honour." CreationDate="2015-04-13T11:12:07.623" UserId="262" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10813" PostId="4950" Score="1" Text="It will be helpful if you specify *which* Chinese martial art or arts you are studying, as CMA is quite diverse and each style has its own preferences on any number of technical differences." CreationDate="2015-04-13T17:21:05.617" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10814" PostId="4954" Score="2" Text="Why is there any reason to assume Qi is an actual phenomenon, and not just a conflation of several, different physical processes such as kinetic energy and gravity?  It is impossible to argue that Qi actually exists at all when there is no consistent definition for it." CreationDate="2015-04-13T20:11:02.933" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10815" PostId="4954" Score="1" Text="@The Wudang Kid:  Because doing so is actually quite common to aggregate properties into a model which better illustrates physical phenomenon of interest.  We do it all the time in science.  Consider that &quot;taste&quot; is a conflation of several different physical processes, such as chemical activity and electrical activity, but we consider &quot;taste&quot; to be useful enough of a model that we continue to use it long after the physics behind it was understood.  Likewise &quot;touch&quot; is nothing more than a set of electrostatic potentials giving the illusion of a solid object." CreationDate="2015-04-13T20:21:15.270" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10816" PostId="4954" Score="3" Text="Ok, but taste describes an actual phenomenon: the fact that we perceive different sensations in relation to our taste buds.  What phenomenon does Qi describe?" CreationDate="2015-04-13T20:34:42.527" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10817" PostId="4954" Score="1" Text="@The Wudang Kid: I think &quot;perceive&quot; is the key word.  The martial arts masters who claim Qi is a real phenomenon perceive a difference between the way individuals fight.  Over a few thousand years, the masters have agreed upon a term, Qi, to describe something they find important and powerful, just as we have agreed upon what it means to perceive different taste on our tongue.  For an individual to claim it doesn't exist because they have not perceived it would be akin to a blind person claiming colors do not exist because they have not perceived them." CreationDate="2015-04-13T20:50:57.920" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10818" PostId="4954" Score="0" Text="In fact, the color analogy may be even stronger than the taste one.  Those who are colorblind face the same level of frustration with the concept of colors that those who do not perceive Qi feel when trying to comprehend fighting with it.  In both cases, the individual adapts - color blind individuals often perceive texture details which full-color-seeing individuals miss.  Likewise, those who do not sense Qi develop fighting styles which do not depend on that perception... they depend on other perceptions." CreationDate="2015-04-13T20:53:26.563" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10819" PostId="4954" Score="2" Text="Ok, but what is Qi in the first place?  If we don't have a definition we cannot discuss it scientifically." CreationDate="2015-04-13T20:58:37.983" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10820" PostId="4954" Score="0" Text="Let us [continue this discussion in chat](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/22815/discussion-between-cort-ammon-and-the-wudang-kid)." CreationDate="2015-04-13T21:06:08.080" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10821" PostId="4960" Score="0" Text="Thanks people for your replies. I ordered a Judo gi for 160 cm people, because the next one will be 170 cm., so might be too loose for me, me being 165 cm. I'm hoping that Judo gi's normally being loose, but having been bought for half size (I'm 165 cm.) smaller (height increases are 10 cm. for increasing sizes, but I bought for 160 cm.), it'll fit me well. Wish me luck :)" CreationDate="2015-04-13T21:34:31.317" UserId="5754" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10822" PostId="4954" Score="2" Text="-1 for handwaving, misuse of both the term &quot;statistically&quot;, and egregious misapplication of findings in the field of quantum mechanics." CreationDate="2015-04-13T21:36:47.233" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10823" PostId="4954" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann oh wow, did you just read 2 words out of an unfinished chat and decide to -1 the entire answer (hint I never actually applied ANY findings from QM)?  I would love to see what you think was wrong about my use of &quot;statistically,&quot; given I use it twice, and both times use it according to the dictionary definition!" CreationDate="2015-04-13T21:42:27.940" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10824" PostId="4954" Score="1" Text="No, all the words/phrases I criticized were from your actual answer, not a comment or chat comment. Use control-F to find them." CreationDate="2015-04-13T22:16:36.763" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10825" PostId="4954" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Ahh, you're right.  I missed that one. You're referring to the point where I point out that the observer effect frustrates people who assume that the observer can observe the state of particles without influencing them, generating results like those from the delayed-eraser-double-slit experiment which people swear cannot be physically real, yet are duplicated on a regular basis, which I brought into the answer to point out that these issues appear in &quot;hard&quot; science on a regular basis. I brought it in in case someone felt biology was too &quot;soft&quot; of a science to be the only example." CreationDate="2015-04-13T22:22:13.393" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10826" PostId="4954" Score="1" Text="I knew what you were referring to, which is why I describe it as an gross misapplication of the findings of physical science." CreationDate="2015-04-13T22:27:38.637" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10827" PostId="4954" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann: Can you explain why?  I believe I'm explaining a system which studies what happens when you cannot observe a weakness without changing that weakness.  The parallel seemed pretty applicable to me.  In all three cases (fighting, QM, placebo), the mere act of trying to observe the effect of a change changes that effect in unpredictable ways." CreationDate="2015-04-13T22:36:35.037" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10828" PostId="4954" Score="0" Text="I responded in chat." CreationDate="2015-04-13T22:57:18.660" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10830" PostId="4965" Score="10" Text="Personally I would jump in and ask, explaining your background and future plans. &quot;Rules&quot; like that are usually firm guidelines that can be waived for the right people." CreationDate="2015-04-14T04:36:51.483" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10831" PostId="4965" Score="0" Text="Welcome to MA Stack.  Good question.  Good luck in your training." CreationDate="2015-04-14T12:51:54.507" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10832" PostId="4965" Score="0" Text="Thank you for the comment @slugster. It seems like a really formal dojo so I just wanted to be sure." CreationDate="2015-04-14T12:56:45.567" UserId="5758" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10833" PostId="4967" Score="0" Text="Thanks @The Wudang Kid. I know I'm out of practice so I can understand waiting a little bit. I just didn't want to come off as one of those guys like I know everything. I figure worst case scenario, they could let me watch the class. Then I won't be completely behind when the time comes." CreationDate="2015-04-14T13:02:37.487" UserId="5758" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10834" PostId="4967" Score="0" Text="You can take my answer with a grain of salt.  I don't train in Budo circles, so I understand there's probably a difference in attitude from what I'm familiar with.  Still I think they should be open to questions.  Good luck." CreationDate="2015-04-14T13:07:52.817" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10835" PostId="4967" Score="0" Text="I agree with the general principle The Wudang Kid brings up.  *Generally* speaking, most Asian martial arts recognize that there are many ways to learn to fight, and if you humbly come to them with an attitude of &quot;See if I can integrate enough of what I have already learned into your style&quot; rather than &quot;I should already be pre-qualified, just let me test out of the basics,&quot; they are more than happy to work with you." CreationDate="2015-04-14T14:52:00.420" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10837" PostId="4968" Score="1" Text="I do not consider myself enough of an expert on Wing Chun to warrant a full blown answer, but from what I have heard from others, it's techniques are well suited for close in areas.  That being said, you may want to retitle your question somewhat.  &quot;What martial art is best for me&quot; is a very open ended question that is hard to answer, but your search for a compare/contrast of three arts given a potential training-schedule (a very particular constraint) seems more answerable.  To avoid downvotes, you might change the title of the question to better match the content." CreationDate="2015-04-14T14:59:03.503" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10838" PostId="4965" Score="2" Text="@Phil - As others have said, ask. However, expect it to be turned down. I imagine that the rule is in place because they have had a bunch of people expecting to learn sword (&quot;Dude! I'm taking sword classes!&quot;), and when they find that there is a LOT, I mean a LOT of tradition, slow progression, basics basics and more basics before you get to actually &quot;do sword&quot;, they leave. I would put the same rule in place to assess a student before letting them into class. I also wouldn't mention that you might be moving in a year ;-)" CreationDate="2015-04-14T15:00:17.717" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10840" PostId="4971" Score="0" Text="Tai chi has extensive two person partner practice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awrSlh1n8_o" CreationDate="2015-04-14T16:49:12.383" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10842" PostId="4971" Score="0" Text="thanks for you effort.is it useful in a real life situation??" CreationDate="2015-04-14T17:55:21.323" UserId="5760" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10843" PostId="4968" Score="0" Text="I edited your question to be more focused on one thing.  Since you seemed interested in Wing Chun, I made it about that.  If you disagree, you can rollback the edit." CreationDate="2015-04-14T18:03:01.283" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10844" PostId="4965" Score="0" Text="Thanks @JohnP. I'm going in expecting to be turned down, so I won't get let down. Hopefully I can at least sit in and observe. Call me weird though, but the traditional stuff is exactly what I want. &#xA;&#xA;I was thinking I shouldn't tell them I'm moving either. If I do this I want to be taken seriously." CreationDate="2015-04-14T18:45:18.070" UserId="5758" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10845" PostId="4967" Score="0" Text="Thank @Cort. I'm going in with the idea that he's going to say no so I won't be let down. Hopefully not, but we'll see." CreationDate="2015-04-14T18:47:03.130" UserId="5758" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10846" PostId="4971" Score="1" Text="@indiansailor - ANY Martial art CAN be effective in a &quot;real life&quot; situation. It entirely depends on the practitioner." CreationDate="2015-04-14T18:56:02.377" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10847" PostId="4971" Score="1" Text="@indiansailor: The opinion I get from most individuals is that it takes many years before one can &quot;use Tai Chi to win a fight,&quot; but it begins to be useful in &quot;real life situations&quot; almost immediately. Masters will claim that it becomes &quot;the ultimate martial art&quot; over time, but nearly every art claims that, so you may read what you will.  Krav Maga will give you fighting results quickly, but many groups self-associate with &quot;Self Defense&quot; rather than &quot;Martial Art,&quot; and that should say something about what one seeks to get from Krav Maga study. As always, what you want out of the training matters" CreationDate="2015-04-14T21:04:55.390" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10848" PostId="4968" Score="0" Text="What facilities are available on a ship? A gym? Area suitable for sparring? Or is it all small areas?" CreationDate="2015-04-15T02:50:50.673" UserId="1846" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10849" PostId="4967" Score="0" Text="Just remember to empty your cup." CreationDate="2015-04-15T02:55:45.560" UserId="1846" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10851" PostId="4952" Score="0" Text="I love it when I have to +1 someone else's answer to a question I have an answer for.  I like how it captures the balance between the different viewpoints." CreationDate="2015-04-16T05:24:32.097" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10856" PostId="4733" Score="6" Text="+1 one of the most candid and balanced explanations of Aikido I've seen online.  I will say one thing, however that might make you feel better about wrist-grabs: many styles of kung fu practice wrist-grabbing as a lead-in to a strike, a lock, or a throw.  Therefore, defenses versus wrist-grabs are valuable, though they should be done with the understanding that the wrist-grabber isn't just going to stop with the grab.  Something else is coming behind it." CreationDate="2015-04-17T19:55:14.850" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10857" PostId="4990" Score="1" Text="I think your analogy would be a better fit if it described someone going to a driving school and getting taught to ride a unicycle. Because it's hard to cause a car crash if you're riding a unicycle! But you also don't learn to drive a car if you only ever ride a unicycle." CreationDate="2015-04-17T20:26:20.517" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10858" PostId="4733" Score="6" Text="Yes, many forms of martial arts do the old &quot;wrist grab&quot; stuff. Doesn't mean it's very useful. Aikido practices it because Aikido inherits its style from classical jujitsu, from Samurai origins. In these Samurai ryu, people were taught to grab the wrist to prevent someone from drawing their sword. So in that context, wrist grab defenses were actually useful. For most modern, real-world situations, it rarely comes up. So to dwell on it and spend lots of time on it is time inefficient. There are more important things to go over." CreationDate="2015-04-17T21:10:36.017" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10859" PostId="4990" Score="1" Text="No, I disagree. From how I understand your suggestion, your point is that you go to learn one thing but are taught something else. To avoid you getting hurt, someone teaches you something else and your point is that if you do that, you will never learn the real thing, or do I get you wrong? Also, my analogy was that you start practicing swimming, not that the driving instructor teaches you swimming." CreationDate="2015-04-17T21:16:58.663" UserId="1798" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10860" PostId="4990" Score="0" Text="My point was that some are focusing too much on all eventualities and preparations; &quot;if he does that, then I can do this, she is good at that, then I must be good at groundwork, ...&quot;, and not focusing on what is being taught (driving (or aikido)). Again, fighting is not self-defense. Fighting can be a part of self-defense in some situations. Most situations do not include/require fighting." CreationDate="2015-04-17T21:24:59.000" UserId="1798" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10861" PostId="4733" Score="1" Text="Also just wanted to note that yes, kung-fu and karate also do a lot with the wrist grab. You can see it in kata. The fist chambered at the hip? That's a wrist grab. So in karate and kung-fu, you're doing a lot of grabbing (either his wrist or the end of his sleeve), and pulling it back to your hip with your left hand while striking with the right hand. This is usually to unbalance and throw while simultaneously striking. Fun to think about, but it's not something you'll encounter for real. It's only done as a defense. And karate/kung-fu people rarely even know about it." CreationDate="2015-04-17T21:28:48.093" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10862" PostId="4990" Score="1" Text="Well if you're fine with what Aikido teaches, no problem. Keep doing it. That you believe you're just doing &quot;self-defense&quot; and not actually learning how to fight tells me you haven't really thought about what it means to be in a real life confrontation. Most important is being familiar and comfortable with each range of fighting: free fighting, clinch, and ground. Maybe add stick and knife training to the mix also. Otherwise you're going to freeze up or make terrible mistakes the moment you're in a situation you don't recognize and haven't trained to deal with." CreationDate="2015-04-17T21:53:00.677" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10864" PostId="4990" Score="0" Text="I'm afraid this will turn out quite fruitless, but I will try. Again: if your premiss is to fight, of course it makes sense to prepare for as much as you can. I am not arguing that, so why are you? It is simply not my premiss, so I disagree. There is more to &quot;self-defense&quot; than fighting. Do you disagree? Are you saying that self-defense is a synonym to fighting?" CreationDate="2015-04-17T22:04:30.397" UserId="1798" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10865" PostId="4292" Score="0" Text="@grovberg I think his point is that using martial arts weapons makes it a bit harder to prove self-defense, and this might be an issue. I call that the Cameron Poe Effect. For instance, I have a combat knife, but if someone breaks in I'm getting a kitchen knife. The last thing I need is a lawyer arguing that I'm a freak who keeps military gear in his office and used disproportionate force against the poor burglar who was just after his next fix." CreationDate="2015-04-17T23:09:46.757" UserDisplayName="user1972" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10866" PostId="4990" Score="4" Text="Uh, this is not true: &quot;karate was taught to footmen and aikido was taught to generals.&quot; Nor will aikido work &quot;at any distance&quot;. Beyond that, the entire philosophical approach of assuming an untrained opponent is aesthetically unappealing." CreationDate="2015-04-18T01:08:33.990" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10867" PostId="4990" Score="1" Text="Yeah, I don't really see a difference between self-defense and fighting in the practical sense. I guess you're making a distinction between doing as little as you need to in order to escape (as in &quot;self-defense&quot;), and going all the way to beating someone (as in &quot;fighting&quot;). I think you won't be able to escape without knowing how to fight, period. You might get lucky, but it's not reliable. Whereas, guys that learn styles that prepare them for fighting are able to escape these real-world situations much more reliably." CreationDate="2015-04-18T02:48:26.593" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10869" PostId="4990" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I said &quot;I have heard&quot;, and I have specified that it was probably referred to the roots of aikido, not modern aikido, also I said any distance provided you can make contact, and there is nothing in the philosophy that assumes an untrained approach. In sword defense, noone is assuming that somebody just found a sword and started attacking. I agree that on the whole, there is very little focus on the opponent's training level and that this is mostly simplified." CreationDate="2015-04-18T06:36:30.623" UserId="1798" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10870" PostId="4990" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand I glad you see there's a difference. I agree with most of what you are saying, but in my experience, it is also guys who go to learn to fight who get into these situations much more reliably." CreationDate="2015-04-18T06:40:12.053" UserId="1798" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10871" PostId="4990" Score="4" Text="What I said about untrained fighters refers to your last sentence: &quot;Do you really expect to get jumped by a trained fighter?&quot; which is to me a ludicrous excuse for not becoming a trained fighter oneself." CreationDate="2015-04-18T13:18:38.537" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10872" PostId="4735" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion When I'm sparring with a partner I don't expect that they will go soft on me.  Nobody gets better that way.  I expect my partner to do whatever it takes to beat me(within reason).  If he doesn't try to hurt me they would never be able to make me tap, or to get through my defense.  There is a difference between trying to hurt someone and trying to injure someone.  Pain is temporary and fleeting." CreationDate="2015-04-18T19:37:29.477" UserId="5713" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10874" PostId="4990" Score="1" Text="In my experience, it's the opposite. Many of the Aikidoka I've met have been more hot-headed and egotistical than BJJ and MMA guys, or pretty much any martial art style I've seen. To this day, I have not figured out why that is. But this is anecdotal. We don't have any way of determining which style imparts bad intentions on the student. I will say, though, that it doesn't really matter what others do with an art. It's what you do that matters. If you go into any martial art and come out thinking you're invincible, you might end up looking for trouble. BJJ/MMA/etc. are very humbling styles." CreationDate="2015-04-18T22:46:43.140" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10876" PostId="4960" Score="0" Text="Update: guys the Judo gi I bought fits me nicely, but yes, the pant is not made to endure all the sparring on the ground, could be thicker. I'm thinking of going to the tailor and put an extra layer inside it so that it becomes better for the sparring. What do you think of that?" CreationDate="2015-04-19T20:53:08.080" UserId="5754" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10877" PostId="4990" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand My experience is the opposite.  Most of the Aikidoka I have met outside my dojo have been very humble people.  We share space with a BJJ school and humble is not a word that comes to mind with them." CreationDate="2015-04-19T22:43:24.247" UserId="5573" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10879" PostId="4960" Score="2" Text="Save your time and money and wait until they rip, then replace them. Many brands sell pants separately, and pants are cheap. By then you should be able to make a more informed decision about which kind of pants to get." CreationDate="2015-04-19T23:39:09.167" UserId="3234" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10880" PostId="4984" Score="0" Text="+1 for the good answer, thanks! But i choose the other since it name a few martial arts i could use, but it has hard to choose the answer!" CreationDate="2015-04-20T03:24:50.027" UserId="5769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10881" PostId="4982" Score="0" Text="+1 for the question, thanks! But you didn't answer as complete as the others but thanks anyway" CreationDate="2015-04-20T03:25:58.267" UserId="5769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10883" PostId="4984" Score="0" Text="It's all good!  It's better to have a lot of good answers to choose from." CreationDate="2015-04-20T06:55:40.730" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10885" PostId="4967" Score="0" Text="+1 for level 25 Paladin. Oh and the rest of the answer is spot on too! ^_~" CreationDate="2015-04-20T07:37:02.200" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10887" PostId="1527" Score="0" Text="Carrying something to prove to a police officer that you know the law better than him and he can't stop you is a bad idea. Just saying..." CreationDate="2015-04-20T17:34:48.553" UserDisplayName="user1972" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10890" PostId="4998" Score="2" Text="Take more classes.  Training on your own is vital but is no substitute for instruction.  Remember, practice does not make perfect, it makes permanent." CreationDate="2015-04-21T12:49:23.340" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10891" PostId="4990" Score="2" Text="Guys, for extended chat don't forget you can take it to a [chat room](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/2353/the-dojo). Go hard but keep the sparring friendly and respectful :)" CreationDate="2015-04-21T12:55:58.653" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10894" PostId="4863" Score="0" Text="The One Inch Punch, and indeed all examples of fa jin, amount to extremely well developed and subtle bio-mechanics.  Literally anyone can do the mythical one inch punch with adequate instruction.  When I see a &quot;one mile punch&quot;, then I'll be interested to hear theories about Qi." CreationDate="2015-04-21T20:14:50.760" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10896" PostId="4999" Score="2" Text="Short and to the point! I was about to say the same thing." CreationDate="2015-04-21T21:00:29.700" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10897" PostId="4999" Score="3" Text="@SteveWeigand Please do so; multiple answers are doubleplusgood." CreationDate="2015-04-21T21:05:16.040" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10899" PostId="5004" Score="3" Text="Is trimming the adult size guard an option, I had to do that in my teens. Trial and error trim the back until it fit OK and was not making me gag. Was a lot of boil and biting going on.." CreationDate="2015-04-28T23:22:47.717" UserId="1846" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10900" PostId="5004" Score="0" Text="I tried that with one, but it, well, didn't go well; the ends were jagged and I was concerned I had compromised the integrity of it enough that it was pretty useless.  Is there a good/bad way to trim it?  Maybe get it super hot so that it's less likely to be trashed?" CreationDate="2015-04-29T10:16:27.467" UserId="1545" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10901" PostId="5004" Score="0" Text="Have you had someone (*show*)[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm1CUIQWO68] you how to do it?  Maybe you're not fitting it correctly.  A mouth guard only protects you because it forces you to keep your teeth shut, so you don't need a lot of the end bits, mainly the part where you bite down.  It's the end bits that gag you." CreationDate="2015-04-29T11:57:03.533" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10902" PostId="5004" Score="0" Text="I trim mine down prior to boiling. That takes away most of the sharp edges. As @The Wudang Kid says, it will still offer protection even if you trim it some. Alternatively, get it molded by your dentist." CreationDate="2015-04-29T14:07:58.217" UserId="30" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10903" PostId="5004" Score="0" Text="learn to block better." CreationDate="2015-04-29T20:33:08.827" UserId="4254" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10904" PostId="376" Score="0" Text="I've found that in Tae-Kwon-Do, it's not so much the size advantage that people have, as the wicked speed and leverage that comes with them. Being able to deflect long range kicks rather than all out block-stopping them may not be easier or as foolproof, but it can go a long way toward creating an opening for you to exploit. Your opponent will have a much longer recover time if you allow their limb to continue on it's course past you." CreationDate="2015-04-29T20:43:14.550" UserId="4254" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10905" PostId="4979" Score="0" Text="The whole point of a movie is seeing stunning moves that never really work happen and do something. The best place for fights like that to happen are on the screens, and seen from the safety of your couch." CreationDate="2015-04-29T20:47:25.017" UserId="4254" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10906" PostId="5004" Score="0" Text="I think once I had the size right I just took the time to scrape it with a razor until it smoothed out, I also think I used a fine file used for nails. But was some time ago." CreationDate="2015-04-29T23:57:49.947" UserId="1846" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10908" PostId="5009" Score="1" Text="Hi Sardathrion, It's a personal observation based on Malcolm Gladwell's notion of '10,000 hours to become an expert' that he made famous. From other personal observations I wondered if the pattern was similar for non-expert. It appears to be e.g. a Shotokan Green belt (a foundation grade) would be around 12 months twice per week (100 hours). The effort (in hours) always seems to be more relevant than the duration. Same for other disciplines including sports, playing instruments, even how well people performed at work in certain tasks. Does that make sense?" CreationDate="2015-05-01T08:55:55.623" UserId="5804" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10909" PostId="5009" Score="0" Text="This is great!  Could you add your comment into the answer?" CreationDate="2015-05-01T08:57:15.423" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10910" PostId="5008" Score="2" Text="&quot;at my current location I can't find any [martial arts schools]&quot;" CreationDate="2015-05-01T14:44:54.827" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10911" PostId="5008" Score="0" Text="Apologies, I did mean to add to this, most Judo and Amatuer boxing clubs are non-profit, rarely advertized and have little or nothing on the internet advertizing themselves. It's probably worth going in to a few sports centers or calling them up and asking if they know of any in the local area. Also, contact the Judo and Amatuer boxing club associations can point you in the right direction too. I suppose I'm just not quite believing that there isn't a Martial Arts class somewhere nearby, I've been in towns with population of less than 1000 and there is a MA school!" CreationDate="2015-05-01T20:14:33.403" UserId="5804" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10913" PostId="5014" Score="0" Text="By the way, the sensei is fitfth dan and the DOJO belongs to the national martial arts association." CreationDate="2015-05-04T21:42:38.483" UserId="5809" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10914" PostId="4979" Score="1" Text="There was once an Afghan Martial Artist known as 'Ehsan Shafiq'. He passed away few years back. His techniques, kicks, etc... were pretty impressive." CreationDate="2015-05-05T04:55:17.200" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10915" PostId="5014" Score="2" Text="&quot;I cannot forbid you not to go&quot; implies she would if she could.  It's a warning sign when martial arts teachers want to keep you away from other influences.  At its most extreme, this is cult behavior." CreationDate="2015-05-05T12:06:28.910" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10916" PostId="5014" Score="2" Text="@TheWudangKid On the other hand, it could mean &quot;the other dojo are really sub standard and teach rubbish but I am too polite to say that&quot;. It's hard to say which from the context." CreationDate="2015-05-05T12:54:51.700" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10917" PostId="5014" Score="0" Text="Thank you all for your valuable insights! I really thank you for that.&#xA;On the other hand, when she told me, &quot;I cannot forbid you not to go&quot; she followed telling me &quot;You should first follow a given school, if you go there you can get confused&quot;. I still find this troubling. It seems she wants nothing to do with her community. Besides that, and the price thing, the dojo is quite awesome." CreationDate="2015-05-05T14:43:36.827" UserId="5809" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10918" PostId="5016" Score="0" Text="Thank you for your answer. I shall keep training longer and see what happens." CreationDate="2015-05-05T14:44:01.053" UserId="5809" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10919" PostId="5017" Score="0" Text="Indeed I believe she is the 破/ha phase, looks like it. Will train there some time and see how it goes, thanks for the answer." CreationDate="2015-05-05T14:44:38.423" UserId="5809" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10920" PostId="5014" Score="0" Text="That is at least a little more reasonable.  Beginners *can* get confused when chasing too many rabbits.  However, beware getting stuck in any school's bubble.  When I hear of a MA teacher saying not to learn from anyone else, I reflexively think it must be because they are afraid their teaching will not hold up when subjected to outside scrutiny." CreationDate="2015-05-05T16:16:41.123" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10924" PostId="4359" Score="3" Text="Also soccer players are literally made out of thin sheets of glass." CreationDate="2015-05-07T07:46:05.230" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10925" PostId="4732" Score="1" Text="@slugster When you're mounted or otherwise forced to the ground? When your attacker knows how to punch or kick? Skepticism of aikido as a practical art isn't exactly far-fetched, considering its training methods." CreationDate="2015-05-07T13:57:40.540" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10926" PostId="4973" Score="0" Text="in all of my years doing competitions, I've never hurt myself ( or hurt one of my partener/oponnent ) at their mouth/ teeth ... or if I did, I was minor enough I dont remember it, so its not commun." CreationDate="2015-05-07T18:55:39.333" UserId="1526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10927" PostId="666" Score="0" Text="my coach never &quot;showed&quot; us any proper way to step/move ... and I'm 100%  sure I've never had to practice arching my toes ...&#xA;&#xA;Maybe its something in the &quot;natural&quot; position of your toes ... but at this point check for specialized help. ( some doctors specialized in foot, I just cant remember the names )" CreationDate="2015-05-07T19:00:25.930" UserId="1526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10928" PostId="666" Score="0" Text="If I had to guess, I'd say that there was a problem from his hip that led to a downward stepping direction instead of forward. arching the toe up can be palliative, and if done carefully, can help him backtrack all the way to the hip and fix the source of the movement." CreationDate="2015-05-08T11:55:51.603" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10930" PostId="5025" Score="0" Text="And may I ask why?" CreationDate="2015-05-09T07:01:10.193" UserId="4395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10932" PostId="5035" Score="2" Text="Oh my gosh, you really hit right on spot. I've always thought of myself as someone tough on the outside, but can be a softy deep, deep, inside. It's just been these past few days that I realized that I am actually  subconsciously sensitive (with life in general), and my thoughts and conscious actions are what's not exposing that so much, as I don't like displaying weakness. And now you've just confirmed that." CreationDate="2015-05-09T19:13:49.850" UserId="5723" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10933" PostId="5035" Score="0" Text="Thanks a lot with the advice! At all points I can actually relate to. I'm not quite sure about Judo though since I know people doing it, and it's quite accident prone for the limbs. I think I'll go on with Arnis as I actually really liked it, or maybe Wushu in the future :D&#xA;&#xA;I think my problem too is that somehow, the part about the just hitting the person over and over, is that I don't get why I do it. I mean I know that it's a learning experience, but somehow it doesn't make sense to me subconsciously or somewhere inside." CreationDate="2015-05-09T19:15:48.673" UserId="5723" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10934" PostId="5035" Score="0" Text="Hey, thanks for the kind notes. The statistics show that grappling based styles like judo are far less injury prone than striking based ones. Wushu is awesome, but make sure to get with a gymnastics instructor to help you with your aerials, somersaults, back flips, butterfly twists, etc. Those can be tricky and tend to be very injury prone and hard on the joints. At the very least, find a gymnastics school which has &quot;open gym&quot; times that let you use their foam pit and other safety equipment, usually for just $5-$10 per hour. Usually there's someone there that will spot and guide you, also." CreationDate="2015-05-09T19:23:37.380" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10935" PostId="5035" Score="0" Text="Really? Or maybe it depends on the kind of injuries? I think the striking based ones have more injuries related to muscle pain and open wounds, while grappling based styles are more on the bone dislocation and bone fracture kind of injuries. Or is this just a generalized misconception? &#xA;&#xA;Haha I totally forgot about the gymnastics part of Wushu. My dad's been doing wushu since he was a kid, I'll ask him about this :D But I think it depends on the style one would choose to specialize on?" CreationDate="2015-05-09T19:29:43.393" UserId="5723" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10936" PostId="5035" Score="0" Text="There are differences in the types of injuries between grappling and striking based styles, yes. Striking based styles have more muscle pulls, nose breaks, bloody noses, finger breaks, arm breaks, concussions, broken ribs, tooth and jaw injuries, eye injuries, and bruising. Whereas grappling styles have a lot more ankle sprains, toe sprains (from sticking into the mat), finger tip sprains (from grabbing the gi), spine and neck injuries, rashes, scrapes, and knee, elbow, and shoulder injuries. But injuries are much more frequent in striking styles." CreationDate="2015-05-09T19:38:38.357" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10937" PostId="5035" Score="0" Text="Yeah, injuries are actually more frequent from in striking styles from my observations too. I was wondering though, what did you mean by avoiding Judo schools that are competition-focused? My experience with Judo is quite limited, and what I know of it are just the grappling techniques that my master for Arnis taught us (which he said are from Judo). They mostly involve just bringing down your opponent. And a friend who had it as PE where they had an inter-class competition told me that the winner was just determined by who brought down the other first." CreationDate="2015-05-09T20:05:04.263" UserId="5723" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10938" PostId="5035" Score="0" Text="Both Judo and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu can be competitive. They have tournaments. And some (not most) of those schools require wins in competition in order for rank advancement. That's all I meant by saying you should ask about that. Those schools are aggressively sport-focused. You probably want a less sport and more fundamentals/defense-focused school to begin with, one that lets you compete if you want, or not... Judo is focused very heavily on throws, less on mat-work. BJJ is focused on mat-work (wrestling), less on throws, and is generally a bit more practical. Start Googling. ;)" CreationDate="2015-05-09T21:23:05.453" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10939" PostId="4275" Score="2" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is about useless speculation without any link to martial arts." CreationDate="2015-05-11T06:31:40.317" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10941" PostId="4177" Score="1" Text="If as you say you can barely run 1.2 miles, and you have a medical condition, perhaps it's time to speak to a medical professional. I hope you get the all-clear, but see your doctor. I agree you've got the other stuff covered." CreationDate="2015-05-09T07:50:46.827" UserId="5822" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10943" PostId="5025" Score="0" Text="There are Shaolin monks all over the world. Care to share why you feel they are all frauds?" CreationDate="2015-05-11T15:45:20.800" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10944" PostId="5036" Score="2" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is way too localised and could be answered by a simple Google search." CreationDate="2015-05-12T07:23:24.787" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10945" PostId="5037" Score="0" Text="You are far nicer than I am..." CreationDate="2015-05-12T09:56:34.370" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10946" PostId="5039" Score="3" Text="It's possible to learn kickboxing without a punching bag, you'll just be missing a training tool.  It *wouldn't* be possible to learn without a training partner.  Maybe a better question is: is someone who doesn't have access to a punching bag likely to be qualified to teach kickboxing?  And why is he choosing to teach you without a punching bag?  Isn't there one at the gym?" CreationDate="2015-05-12T11:48:56.157" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10947" PostId="5036" Score="1" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is too localized." CreationDate="2015-05-12T11:51:15.700" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10948" PostId="5038" Score="3" Text="-1. There's no such things as samurai any more since [the Charter Oath promulgated at the enthronement of Emperor Meiji of Japan on 7 April 1868](http://history.stackexchange.com/a/162/103). There is nothing either spiritual or magical about training your body to draw a sword towards a moving target. All you need is practice and enough takes till you get slice a small pellet." CreationDate="2015-05-12T12:50:08.927" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10949" PostId="5039" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site.  I edited your question to remove some unnecessary information and clean it up a little. Let me know if this has changed what you wanted answered." CreationDate="2015-05-12T12:53:39.393" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10950" PostId="5038" Score="0" Text="Acording to the lady professor it's not possible because of limits in perception and reaction speed? Also curious how i should name the practitioner?" CreationDate="2015-05-12T13:01:35.953" UserId="5829" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10951" PostId="5038" Score="1" Text="Samurai is a political title dating back to feudal japan.  You wouldn't call a practitioner of German Longsword a knight.  So, though people emulate the samurai ethos as a part of their commitment to Japanese martial arts, they are not samurai.  Haven't watched the video, but I assume he's doing some flavor of kenjutsu, thus he would be called a kenjutsu-ka.  The alternative is that he's doing iaido / iaijutsu (two names for the same art." CreationDate="2015-05-12T13:14:49.653" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10952" PostId="5038" Score="1" Text="Maybe this question would do better on the physics stack exchange?" CreationDate="2015-05-12T13:15:09.550" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10953" PostId="5038" Score="0" Text="Good point about political title. But regarding exchange, i don't imagine Japanese doctrine wrt swordsmanship is about physics, more likely something with spirit realm?" CreationDate="2015-05-12T13:20:30.327" UserId="5829" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10954" PostId="5038" Score="3" Text="**There is nothing mystical in that video.** It could easily be a simple case of clever editing: you are never shown how many times they tried. They could have tried as many times as needed until they got the needed result." CreationDate="2015-05-12T13:43:48.797" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10955" PostId="5038" Score="0" Text="Sardathrion is 100% correct here.  There is nothing at all mystical about using a sword to destroy a tiny object.  I have watched the video now, and the only thing &quot;spiritual&quot; going on here is the swordsman's intense focus.  Other than that, it's all training, training, training.  Some people get into martial arts because they think there's a mystical secret.  Those people quickly leave when they find how painful/boring/mundane the training actually is." CreationDate="2015-05-12T14:18:58.320" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10956" PostId="5038" Score="0" Text="Ok, tv probably wants to make a nice story. But this Japanese man does hold multuple Guinis Book records: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isao_Machii  Regarding mundane.. i agree. but in the east there's much more to 'martial' than in the west, so i don't exclude spirit stuff per-se." CreationDate="2015-05-12T15:06:10.320" UserId="5829" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10957" PostId="5039" Score="1" Text="Some of the more basic movements are often trained without a punching bag to develop some proper form. After you have some experience throwing punches around it is likely you would be encouraged to use other training tools like hand pads or a punching bag. If this trainer doesn't eventually move towards another form of training you will want to consider going else where, but you could develop some basic skills without one." CreationDate="2015-05-13T00:53:37.400" UserId="5832" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10959" PostId="5044" Score="1" Text="This answer would be a good one if it answered the question asked.  The question was &quot;What are the general tactics of Krav Maga as opposed to Systema&quot;?  You only discussed training regime, not tactics." CreationDate="2015-05-13T12:51:56.243" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10961" PostId="5039" Score="0" Text="hello @CayceK can you please how can i develop basic skills without any trainer! actually i don't have much knowledge of foot drills and punching techniques or angle that how to through proper punches?! do you know any website or have any material that help me out ?? thanks in advance (^_^)" CreationDate="2015-05-13T13:09:11.130" UserId="5830" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10962" PostId="5036" Score="0" Text="I also vtc, but &quot;too localized&quot; has not been a close reason for some time." CreationDate="2015-05-13T15:49:18.160" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10963" PostId="1705" Score="0" Text="Its probably because boxers and mixed martial artists spend a lot of time ACTUALLY HITTING PEOPLE in the head, unlike &quot;traditionalists&quot;. The tape is there not to prevent skin lacerations on the knuckles, but to stop wrist fractures from punches that hit the head with the ring/pinkie knuckles instead of the pointer/index." CreationDate="2015-05-13T19:52:32.940" UserId="1076" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10965" PostId="5047" Score="1" Text="-1. This does not answer the question. What is &quot;modern street self defence&quot; and why are traditional arts not a particularly efficient way too learn it?  You know that Aikido is taught to various police forces around the world so how does that not fit &quot;modern street self defence&quot;? The second paragraph is your personal experience which is fine but is not evidence for anything with regards to Aikido." CreationDate="2015-05-14T09:48:36.223" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10966" PostId="5047" Score="0" Text="Hi Sardathrion, have clarified answer with references. not here to bash traditional arts but the names above back up the assertion regarding traditional arts effectiveness For street self defence." CreationDate="2015-05-15T14:26:09.237" UserId="5804" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10967" PostId="5047" Score="1" Text="**I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV.** That said, using &quot;preemptive strikes&quot; may lead to you being arrested, charged with assault, and jailed. The law is not as clear cut as those &quot;self defense experts&quot; claim it is. If in doubt, please do and speak to a defense lawyer in your jurisdiction as the law is very different from place to place." CreationDate="2015-05-15T14:48:47.303" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10968" PostId="5047" Score="0" Text="I am afraid that your edit has not improved the answer as far as I am concerned: You do not define what you mean by &quot;modern street self defence&quot;. You do not explain why  traditional arts not a particularly efficient way too learn it. Aikido has plenty of strikes and techniques that can be initiated by tori. Oh, and you utterly ignore the fact that Aikido is used by Police forces around the world (Japan and the UK for sure) for self defense in the line of duty." CreationDate="2015-05-15T14:54:19.230" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10969" PostId="5052" Score="0" Text="What sort of soreness? Is it a lactic acid build up soreness? Or is is like you've lifted heaps of weights and given your muscles a working over type of soreness? One is a dull tired ache that affects entire sections of your body, the other is sharper and more localised (the two can be combined as well)." CreationDate="2015-05-16T01:03:52.440" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10970" PostId="5052" Score="0" Text="It's like if I went to the gym and worked on nothing but legs for 2 hours kind of sore. That's my main ache. The other is more like &quot;worked me good yesterday, here's a reminder&quot; and just a dull ache on my upper body, specifically my lats and even my neck muscles, front and back" CreationDate="2015-05-16T01:33:46.863" UserId="5814" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10971" PostId="5049" Score="0" Text="Then i suppose the biggest is http://www.tkd-itf.org/  (Pablo Trajtenberg) &#xA;&#xA;the World Championship will host 2129 athletes from 58 countries. Then I would suppose it is sure that they have more than 14201 members, It would be surprising that 15% of their member would go to the world championship,...&#xA;&#xA;http://wchamp2015.pztkd.lublin.pl/" CreationDate="2015-05-16T13:22:37.503" UserId="4463" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10972" PostId="4538" Score="0" Text="I agree.  While not the OP intent, Aikido would not be bad choice.  I once had a class with a visiting 80 year old Sensei.  He avoided some of the techniques because his .hip was going bad, but for 80 he had some good technique and was really quick." CreationDate="2015-05-16T14:35:42.137" UserId="5573" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10973" PostId="5049" Score="1" Text="yea sadly there is no scientific proof I can provide, but at least I gave a shot :D" CreationDate="2015-05-17T01:18:47.857" UserId="5832" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10974" PostId="5052" Score="0" Text="Are you new to BJJ?" CreationDate="2015-05-17T17:30:02.760" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10975" PostId="5052" Score="0" Text="I'm new to BJJ in that I haven't done it in well over a decade, focused more on Muay Thai and Taekwondo" CreationDate="2015-05-17T17:32:32.487" UserId="5814" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10976" PostId="4914" Score="0" Text="Well, there's something wrong with your skeleton. Go see someone who knows what's what." CreationDate="2015-05-18T07:54:32.730" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10977" PostId="5054" Score="1" Text="&quot;...serious injury if not done correctly&quot; wouldn't this apply to all martial arts? If not, which one would you recommend?" CreationDate="2015-05-18T11:38:07.983" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10978" PostId="4607" Score="4" Text="+1 I often use the analogy of learning to fight without fighting someone is like trying to learn how to swim without getting in water. It will be a horrific experience if you get into a real fight - it will feel like being dumped in water for the first time! (Or to quote Bruce Lee &quot;Boards don't hit back&quot; :) )" CreationDate="2015-05-18T15:23:10.750" UserId="5804" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10979" PostId="5058" Score="1" Text="You're right, but you're arguing something Val wasn't arguing. Val's point was that sparring felt like a different situation than a real-life defense situation. That, in real-life, Val would internalize it differently. Val would use force against a real threat, but doesn't feel like the anxiety about causing harm would get in the way like it does in class. In class, Val's life is not really being threatened. That's the distinction. Probably in real life, this anxiety of Val's would still occur. It's just that in real life, Val can justify using force and be okay about it." CreationDate="2015-05-18T19:21:37.147" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10980" PostId="5059" Score="2" Text="Welcome to the site. This is a very open ended question, which means it will be next to impossible to come up with a definitive answer (and it will tend to draw opinion based answers rather than fact based ones). Can you rethink the question a bit to avoid these issues?" CreationDate="2015-05-19T03:37:25.580" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10981" PostId="5055" Score="0" Text="this is possible when I think about it. Could be related to knee injuries and shoulder injuries from taking bad falls during demonstrations. I had a bad back and neck injury from one of the demos we did for a community event.I girl was showing self defense, and I was the &quot;bad guy in the hoodie&quot;. I misread her throw, and couldn't recuperate fast enough mid-air, so ended up slamming down with my neck onto hard flat concrete." CreationDate="2015-05-19T09:27:04.563" UserId="5571" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10982" PostId="5062" Score="0" Text="What part of your foot is contacting the stage?  Heel?  Intentional ground stomping through stance transitions is a part of some kung fu styles, and it must be done in a way that makes the weight sink with the stomp and the entire sole should land flat.  Perhaps you can repurpose this movement?" CreationDate="2015-05-19T16:18:49.100" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10983" PostId="5062" Score="0" Text="I have been putting most of the impact through the heel, justifying it with that it absorbs the impact through lengthwise bones rather than risking a horizontal force on the thinner metatarsal bones. I started moving to a whole-foot stomp in part to create more noise and in part to reduce the pain, but I hadn't noticed a difference." CreationDate="2015-05-19T17:29:50.433" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10984" PostId="5064" Score="0" Text="thank you, may be i have to find a cheap stand to hang it :)" CreationDate="2015-05-19T19:46:14.540" UserId="5849" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10985" PostId="5064" Score="0" Text="Or, hey, another handy use for trees: they have branches.  You can hang the punching bag from a sturdy branch with some rope.  Even apartment dwellers can sometimes get away with this, provided there is wooded area around their apartment complex.  Just remember to take it down when you're done :)" CreationDate="2015-05-19T19:48:24.387" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10986" PostId="5062" Score="0" Text="How extended is your leg, and how high up on the calf? If it's actually right at the knee, you may be hyperextending." CreationDate="2015-05-19T22:02:18.523" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10987" PostId="5063" Score="1" Text="House or apartment?" CreationDate="2015-05-19T22:09:27.313" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10988" PostId="5062" Score="0" Text="It's at the top of the calf, right in the mass of muscle where it starts to taper from the fleshiest point. And my leg is slightly flexed, maybe a 170 degree angle." CreationDate="2015-05-20T02:07:47.933" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10991" PostId="5066" Score="1" Text="That's a surprisingly practical answer. I will try that." CreationDate="2015-05-20T09:48:08.383" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10993" PostId="5066" Score="1" Text="I like to keep things simple." CreationDate="2015-05-20T11:40:40.613" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10997" PostId="5073" Score="3" Text="I voted to close as this is really a personal question that no one but yourself can answer: I cannot see there being a possible best answer that would be useful to a larger audience." CreationDate="2015-05-21T09:01:20.483" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10998" PostId="5073" Score="2" Text="This needs to be narrowed down. What are your goals? What do you hope to get out of tournaments? Why don't you want to go?" CreationDate="2015-05-21T10:09:31.990" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="10999" PostId="5070" Score="0" Text="What is a good follow up combo? any personal preference as an example would be interesting." CreationDate="2015-05-21T12:15:05.467" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11000" PostId="5073" Score="2" Text="What style? Why going across country? Can you not go watch a tournament first? Way too many details left out." CreationDate="2015-05-21T15:13:57.813" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11001" PostId="5064" Score="0" Text="Strapping a kick shield to a tree is a *really* bad idea. Very easy to miss and cause damage, the tree doesn't give way on hard impacts, and you can't really wrap your foot. Lots of easy ways to get injured." CreationDate="2015-05-21T15:15:25.723" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11002" PostId="5064" Score="0" Text="@JohnP, this is in reference to punching, not kicking." CreationDate="2015-05-21T15:17:58.400" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11003" PostId="5064" Score="0" Text="Ah. Not quite as bad an idea, I still don't like having a complete unforgiving backdrop, but not as bad as kicking. :)" CreationDate="2015-05-21T15:33:37.930" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11004" PostId="5070" Score="0" Text="What I liked to do was hit that inside leg kick with my lead leg and follow that up, since I'm already planting my lead leg after the follow through, with an elbow, then an uppercut to the body and a power knee. Alternatively, the leg kick, inside or out, can be used to end a combo, such as jab-cross-leg kick or jab-power uppercut to the body-lead hook to the head-power elbow-leg kick" CreationDate="2015-05-21T16:48:38.277" UserId="5814" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11005" PostId="5075" Score="0" Text="But I just want to ask you some ways to start with, any basic level book or videos to follow?" CreationDate="2015-05-21T18:39:28.787" UserId="5859" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11006" PostId="5075" Score="0" Text="My background is Zen Buddhism. Many people think they can practice zen without a teacher and only from books. Maybe people can, but without a guide many people will wonder around for a long time. Without a guide you must be vigilant to stay on the path. Training in an art without a teacher can be like applying makeup without a mirror. It may feel right from your perspective, but sometimes you need another person to tell you that you missed a spot. :)" CreationDate="2015-05-21T18:41:10.663" UserId="3124" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11007" PostId="5075" Score="0" Text="I understood your point." CreationDate="2015-05-21T18:42:11.287" UserId="5859" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11008" PostId="5075" Score="0" Text="I do not know any good books. I practice Japanese karatedo. Maybe find another style that is available in your area? At least then you will learn some fundamentals that can transend all arts and give you a community of practioniers." CreationDate="2015-05-21T18:43:07.870" UserId="3124" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11009" PostId="4532" Score="0" Text="We have people in their mid to upper 50s at my dojo. I am 32. I think we even have one new student who is 59 or 60. I practice Hayashi-ha Shito-ryu Karate-do." CreationDate="2015-05-21T18:52:25.853" UserId="3124" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11012" PostId="5077" Score="5" Text="You already know you want to do it.  You're just looking for some encouragement.  So... Just do it!  Trust me, TKD instructors are not nearly as scary as you think they are.  They'll encourage you and help you." CreationDate="2015-05-22T19:58:48.710" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11014" PostId="5054" Score="0" Text="I would recommend Tai Chi for older students, much gentler on the body." CreationDate="2015-05-24T14:54:00.150" UserId="5840" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11015" PostId="5086" Score="0" Text="Thanks. So basically, most lesser belts are not able to pull that heel to the face KO or other &quot;destructive&quot; moves and so, I do not need to worry. Am i right?" CreationDate="2015-05-25T08:31:17.123" UserId="5863" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11016" PostId="5086" Score="0" Text="Yes. They probably wouldn't have the power to put any force behind the kick. Don't worry about it. The first time someone kicked me and it actually hurt was at a national championships and we were both black belts. Before that your opponents simply don't have enough power to really hurt you unless they're much bigger and/or older than you. But that doesn't happen until you're ready and able to deal with it." CreationDate="2015-05-25T09:13:44.183" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11017" PostId="5086" Score="0" Text="And always remember that the other guy is also a bit scared and your kicks will also be shaking him. It feels exactly the same for both people in a fight." CreationDate="2015-05-25T09:14:48.913" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11018" PostId="5087" Score="2" Text="Obligatory Bruce Lee versus Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (5'7&quot; versus 7'2&quot;) link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ic2k2P_FG0" CreationDate="2015-05-25T22:57:53.623" UserId="1553" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11019" PostId="4354" Score="0" Text="Late VTC as being too broad, esp considering the &quot;which is more practical&quot; addition." CreationDate="2015-05-26T06:32:04.423" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11020" PostId="5092" Score="3" Text="Why is this split in two different answers? You should pick one or the other and combine them." CreationDate="2015-05-26T06:32:27.310" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11022" PostId="5091" Score="4" Text="This is a really good explanation until that awful last sentence." CreationDate="2015-05-26T06:35:03.530" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11028" PostId="5024" Score="0" Text="Frankly, I disagree with you that they're that similar, and most tournaments that have any sort of rank distinction are also looking for people from registered schools who can back that rank." CreationDate="2015-05-26T18:32:05.033" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11029" PostId="5097" Score="1" Text="I was experimenting with this, and I found that weight position relative to the foot either reduced or increased instability. The more I got directly over the impact point, the less stress I felt. The more in front or behind I got, the more I felt the impact." CreationDate="2015-05-26T18:35:03.057" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11030" PostId="5077" Score="0" Text="This is anecodotal, but when I did TKD we did not spar at all for the first several belts and it was all light/touch sparring until you reached the senior belt levels." CreationDate="2015-05-26T20:01:37.470" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11032" PostId="5100" Score="2" Text="I'm not a Tai Chi practitioner, but I believe your breathing should speed up to match the movement as the movements can be done at different speeds and breathing is a critical component of it." CreationDate="2015-05-27T10:49:18.327" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11033" PostId="5098" Score="0" Text="Thanks Nate.. although this question is months old now :D" CreationDate="2015-05-28T04:50:08.880" UserId="3147" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11042" PostId="4500" Score="2" Text="[Is this their logo by any chance⸮](http://www.cobrakaidojo.com/cobrakai300dpi.jpg)" CreationDate="2015-05-29T06:49:08.453" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11043" PostId="5108" Score="1" Text="Welcome to the site. I find your question interesting but way over board: is this in a civilian self defence, military self defence, MMA, or sparing context?  I think the answers will vary a lot so could you narrow it down?" CreationDate="2015-05-29T09:12:26.187" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11045" PostId="5108" Score="0" Text="It is a general self defense question. It isnt an MA sports question." CreationDate="2015-05-29T14:32:57.907" UserId="5886" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11047" PostId="5108" Score="2" Text="I kind of wanted you to hold off on voting for the best answer until there was more than just my answer. It's good to see what other people come up with. But thanks for your vote. :)" CreationDate="2015-05-29T18:17:39.010" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11048" PostId="5086" Score="4" Text="Fine point: you *will* spar with people higher rank than you. If you're not, you're missing on valuable education; you don't get better by only sparring people your level or worse. But this will be in class, presumably with people who are being careful not to hurt their fellow students. However, you'll not be *competing* against people much higher rank than you, which are the kind of circumstances where you are more likely to be against somebody who has no qualms about hurting you." CreationDate="2015-05-29T19:08:10.620" UserId="698" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11049" PostId="5108" Score="0" Text="Good question.  Of course since I practice aikido I am more interested in countering any defenses listed here." CreationDate="2015-05-30T01:07:27.920" UserId="5573" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11050" PostId="5108" Score="0" Text="Could you provide a picture of the specific armlock you're getting trapped in? &quot;All standing armlocks&quot; is too broad." CreationDate="2015-05-30T19:45:35.757" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11053" PostId="5114" Score="4" Text="Now, this is a good answer!" CreationDate="2015-06-01T06:53:40.440" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11055" PostId="5114" Score="3" Text="This is a solid and comprehensive answer, (despite some eye-rolly stuff about the immortal power of kung fu poking people in the eye). It also really shows why the question isn't useful: just because these people did kung fu doesn't tell us anything about which parts of kung fu are useful. Better to ask &quot;what kung fu *techniques* (or tactics or strategies) have been used successfully in MMA&quot;?" CreationDate="2015-06-01T06:59:53.767" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11057" PostId="5116" Score="0" Text="I find that explanation of the metaphor useful, thanks." CreationDate="2015-06-01T08:41:20.823" UserDisplayName="user5682" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11061" PostId="5117" Score="0" Text="This has nothing to do with martial arts..." CreationDate="2015-06-01T14:41:48.693" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11062" PostId="5117" Score="0" Text="You're probably right. It was non-cooperative physical contest, I thought it was interesting at the time, that a smaller/lighter team/pack could win such a contest." CreationDate="2015-06-01T14:48:14.880" UserId="5893" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11063" PostId="5117" Score="0" Text="Maybe this too isn't MA but it can obviously show up in Tai Chi sparring too: a smaller person can unroot the taller." CreationDate="2015-06-01T15:06:39.883" UserId="5893" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11064" PostId="5117" Score="0" Text="It's a principle one can apply to any grappling art. Though I would wager that the shorter player(s) might have been stronger." CreationDate="2015-06-01T15:31:22.757" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11065" PostId="5117" Score="1" Text="@JuannStrauss We (that team of smaller players) were not &quot;stronger&quot;. We were teenagers, and the opposing teams were big teenagers. But you don't have to be that strong to lift someone: when the scrums lock ([vaguely like this](http://www.theroar.com.au/2013/09/04/fixing-the-wallabies-scrum/)), the front row is basically squatting and can push and/or lift with their shoulders. Like I said, the opponent might be stronger and heavier but if you get between them and their ground and lift them off their feet they've got no way to push back except perhaps by trying to be dead weight." CreationDate="2015-06-01T15:45:21.610" UserId="5893" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11066" PostId="5117" Score="0" Text="Fair enough. I used to play Rugby. I was a tighthead prop. I can understand how this could work." CreationDate="2015-06-01T15:46:49.197" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11072" PostId="925" Score="2" Text="Looking at the video in full (and not just the last technique), I am afraid that you are spot on: this is falling for sensei. My apologies for down voting.  However, the last technique can be made to work by locking the arms and moving uke. The rest..." CreationDate="2015-06-02T13:04:54.010" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11073" PostId="359" Score="1" Text="Although all the other answers are valid, at least in TKD, one of the best reasons for kihap is to help you take hits better. Getting kicked in the stomach silent is a thousand times more painful than getting kicked while doing a kihap. When we practiced with wearable targets, we were taught to kihap with each hit for this reason." CreationDate="2015-06-03T02:52:51.993" UserId="5898" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11075" PostId="5108" Score="0" Text="If there aren't any rules, then biting is the best counter. bite the fingers clean off if you have to. You might have to explain yourself in court afterwards, but the situation will dictate what you should and should not do." CreationDate="2015-06-03T09:43:57.553" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11076" PostId="5108" Score="0" Text="Can't tell if that was a joke or not, Juann Strauss. First, you can't actually bite fingers off. Second, against someone who knows how to put you in these things, you won't get a chance to bite at their hands or arms. Assuming you could even get to a position to bite, he'd see that and take advantage of the fact that you're now way off balance. Against untrained people, sure try anything if that's all you have. But it's better to prepare for these things by assuming you're fighting someone who knows what they're doing. My opinion. Biting isn't usually the best option." CreationDate="2015-06-03T22:23:09.103" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11086" PostId="5123" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site!  This is a nice question.  I edited it a little to remove some unnecessary information but if I have drastically changed what you wanted, please let me know." CreationDate="2015-06-04T10:05:07.373" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11087" PostId="5123" Score="0" Text="Thank you, that is not a problem as long as it was what I meant :)" CreationDate="2015-06-04T10:18:23.170" UserId="5904" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11088" PostId="5125" Score="2" Text="My read on their question is more &quot;I plan to not spar for those 6 weeks, but I can't control whether I get hit in the eye after that, so what do I do?&quot;" CreationDate="2015-06-04T12:12:20.777" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11090" PostId="5128" Score="1" Text="I discussed the spinning kicks here in depth. Does this answer your question:&#xA;http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/2935/how-does-one-train-for-a-spinning-reverse-kick/2937#2937" CreationDate="2015-06-04T18:27:23.820" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11091" PostId="5128" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand I did read this before posting and I don't *think* it address this issue of foot orientation. As I re-read though, I do note that your distinction between spinning and reverse kicks might be worth noting above." CreationDate="2015-06-04T18:43:26.017" UserId="3105" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11092" PostId="1429" Score="0" Text="Yeah, the research on basically all NSAIDs on strength training is all over the place. I feel like I've read a dozen papers in both directions conclusively proving that they do/do not negatively affect strength training." CreationDate="2015-06-04T19:40:59.860" UserId="3105" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11093" PostId="5131" Score="0" Text="Oh I see! Thank you for your answer. I might want to go and check up for myself as well." CreationDate="2015-06-05T03:26:09.837" UserId="3059" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11094" PostId="5128" Score="1" Text="If you can look past the ego, this video is actually pretty good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig1Oy-rzOS0" CreationDate="2015-06-05T09:15:23.717" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11095" PostId="5128" Score="0" Text="@JuannStrauss Interesting. He seems to be doing a hybrid of the two I described, with his hips largely staying pointed away (even specifically mentioning this) but turning his foot so his toes point to the side. Thanks for posting that." CreationDate="2015-06-05T14:26:53.380" UserId="3105" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11096" PostId="5132" Score="1" Text="Dude, you are a wealth of useful information and I really appreciated the deep dive here." CreationDate="2015-06-05T14:37:01.847" UserId="3105" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11098" PostId="5128" Score="0" Text="Yeah, that video shows a tendency to open the hip sooner than arts like Shotokan would do it. Both Shotokan and that branch of TKD practice it like a back kick to begin with and finishing like a back kick and side kick hybrid. It's for mechanical reasons, to keep balance, and to see your opponent. &quot;Pure&quot; back kicks are more rare in martial arts for those reasons. But TKD practitioners generally show a tendency to open up their hips earlier, due to the habit of using the side kick (one of their favorite kicks) and the muscle memory from side kicks." CreationDate="2015-06-05T16:59:34.283" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11099" PostId="5136" Score="0" Text="It does answer my question thank you, I'm still waiting for some feedback about real experience though." CreationDate="2015-06-06T08:49:12.107" UserId="5847" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11100" PostId="5135" Score="1" Text="&quot;How to be a fighter without being a murderer?&quot; - Surely your goal in a 'steet fight' shouldn't be 'to be a fighter'? It should be to get away from the dangerous situation without getting hurt. Fight as little as possible to facilitate running the heck away, not to 'win the fight'!" CreationDate="2015-06-06T11:22:58.847" UserId="3147" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11101" PostId="5135" Score="0" Text="Sure, but in the case you can't run away ? Worse, in the case you have to defend a friend ? Your girlfriend ? Your son ?" CreationDate="2015-06-06T11:29:20.097" UserId="5847" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11102" PostId="5135" Score="1" Text="Even then your goal should be to get them and yourself away from the fight, not to 'win the fight'. If you have to punch a guy in the face to do it then fine, but don't be thinking that there's a 'safe' way that involves fighting. Heck, even just sticking your foot out and tripping someone can be dangerous if the ground is concrete and they fall badly." CreationDate="2015-06-06T11:44:07.293" UserId="3147" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11103" PostId="5135" Score="0" Text="You're right, my question might be inappropriate and encourage people being violent, do you think I should rework it ?" CreationDate="2015-06-06T11:57:37.613" UserId="5847" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11104" PostId="5135" Score="0" Text="Maybe. I'm no expert! But it might be worth having a think about what your goals should be in a violent situation. And how many legitimate reasons you might have for -stabbing- someone." CreationDate="2015-06-06T12:08:12.220" UserId="3147" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11105" PostId="5135" Score="0" Text="Done. + removed the stabbing option." CreationDate="2015-06-06T12:31:46.377" UserId="5847" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11106" PostId="5135" Score="2" Text="Your question is either unclear (my close vote) or way over broad with no possible &quot;right&quot; answer. In the former: Are you asking for legal advice?  Are you asking for a range of possible responses to a threat? What kind of threat? There are thousands of way to answer your question.  If the later, the only sensible answer is either *do not be there* or *do not get caught*." CreationDate="2015-06-06T16:07:22.353" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11108" PostId="5135" Score="0" Text="Understood, it won't happen again. Concerning my question, I'm just asking for a way to defend myself without putting someone's life in danger, of course some law explanation could be welcomed but we hardly come from the same country so..." CreationDate="2015-06-06T16:48:40.963" UserId="5847" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11110" PostId="5100" Score="3" Text="Find a teacher. This is exactly the sort of thing that a good teacher will be able to tell you. As you can see from the few  answers you've got, already you have widely varying responses. You can not learn solely from video or public forums like this one. These are complementary sources at best. Your primary source should come from an experienced teacher" CreationDate="2015-06-07T15:40:34.993" UserId="424" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11111" PostId="5139" Score="0" Text="I found your comment very useful and interesting. Considering you are a well trained martial artist do you think that &quot;spinning&quot; moves such as spinning hook kick, spinning punch, capoeira compasso win efficiency against multiple opponents ? I think it gives you sight around you while keeping most of the opponents at a distance." CreationDate="2015-06-07T16:10:24.293" UserId="5847" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11112" PostId="5140" Score="0" Text="Agree about wrenching the spine and limitations on movement. But this is mostly alleviated by doing a hybrid of both (as I described in my response), which most martial arts actually do. It might be demonstrated with knee and toes pointing down, but people end up twisting outwards a bit at the end and opening up the hip a bit at the end. This allows more flexibility in the back and hip, more power, stability, and almost feels like a side kick at the end. It doesn't wrench the back. And there advantages over the side kick (not as telegraphed, quicker setup for opponents behind you, etc.)." CreationDate="2015-06-07T18:18:49.397" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11113" PostId="341" Score="0" Text="And what about the people who don't have access to teachers?" CreationDate="2015-06-07T19:32:07.377" UserId="5911" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11114" PostId="341" Score="1" Text="@NoviceInDisguise If you don't have access to a teacher, then we must first set expectations properly: the highest martial skill you are likely to reach (unless you have an innate aptitude for this) is a fairly proficient brawler level. If we agree on this, then there are two things that you must do: basic conditioning and basic stretching. Ignore weight-lifting for now, as it has very specific benefits and isn't worth it early on. For both conditioning and stretching, any &quot;beginner's book&quot; will get you started, and you can refine your knowledge from there on as needed." CreationDate="2015-06-07T19:55:37.920" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11115" PostId="341" Score="0" Text="Probably true to an extent" CreationDate="2015-06-07T23:47:28.830" UserId="5911" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11117" PostId="341" Score="0" Text="I'm not given to flattery ;)" CreationDate="2015-06-08T03:59:49.293" UserId="5911" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11118" PostId="5135" Score="0" Text="We are a community run site. No question is closed without lots of people looking at it. What I think might not be reflected from everyone else. I just tend to leave comments so that OPs can improve their questions/answers." CreationDate="2015-06-08T06:45:18.943" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11119" PostId="5139" Score="2" Text="@Vae_newbis: no... spinning attacks tends to be risky, and unless you have a dramatic advantage in size, speed and experience - many spinning techniques are easily blocked, countered and/or caught.  If the situation's escalated into full-on violence, I recommend taking any chances to step into an opponent's &quot;blind side&quot; (moving behind the line of their shoulders) - striking or tripping them then - all other things being equal - turning whichever way's natural to remain facing them (on the ground): you'll tend to get a bit of a look around as that happens." CreationDate="2015-06-08T07:27:43.750" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11129" PostId="5135" Score="2" Text="By definition, in a street fight, *everyone's* life is in danger.  Only way to avoid that is to end the street fight ASAP, by the most expedient means available.  Here's what I think you really meant: &quot;How can I survive a street fight without permanently injuring or killing anyone?&quot;  If that's what you meant, you should edit the question to make it clearer." CreationDate="2015-06-08T16:50:39.787" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11130" PostId="5145" Score="2" Text="I disagree vehemently with this approach. As martial artists we do train to hit hard. There have also been numerous cases recently in New Zealand and Australia where people have died from a single hit - this has lead to the introduction of laws known as &quot;king hit&quot; laws which stiffen the penalties. To advise that this is *&quot;so unlikely to happen&quot;* and *&quot;is extremely unlikely&quot;* is misleading and downright dangerous." CreationDate="2015-06-09T00:12:14.063" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11131" PostId="5145" Score="0" Text="Well, it is your right as a faceless entity on the internet to disagree with me." CreationDate="2015-06-09T07:15:49.593" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11132" PostId="5145" Score="1" Text="-1. Source: [Micheal Yon's *Danger close*, chapter 1](https://www.michaelyon-online.com/danger-close-chapter-one.htm): One punch, one dead.  Sure, this is just one such event and thus statistically insignificant. To get actual medical data, you should look at the [Journal of Trauma](http://journals.lww.com/jtrauma/pages/results.aspx?txtkeywords=brawls): Out of 17,453 persons admitted, thirty-eight people (0.2%) died of their injuries. So, unlikely but still something you want to worry about." CreationDate="2015-06-09T07:46:42.893" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11133" PostId="5141" Score="0" Text="That first sentence nearly got you a down vote.  The rest is good." CreationDate="2015-06-09T07:47:37.437" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11134" PostId="5145" Score="0" Text="They didn't die from a single punch. Which was my point." CreationDate="2015-06-09T08:26:25.540" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11135" PostId="5145" Score="3" Text="[This March 2014 article in The Telegraph (UK)](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/10670485/Australia-leading-the-way-in-crackdown-on-one-punch-killers.html) states *'The spate of “king hits”, now known as “coward punches” at the request of the victims’ families, have caused 91 deaths in Australia since 2000'*.  The article implies they're not from prolonged assaults.  That's in a population of around 20 million.  I'm not saying that's a significant risk; I'm not saying it's insignificant - just sharing some stats for perspective." CreationDate="2015-06-09T17:07:26.487" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11136" PostId="4733" Score="1" Text="This is a nice answer, I practice aikido and agree with most of it. I would say that in a good school, people should and will resist your technique as soon as you have learned the basic movement - the idea is to increase difficulty progressively. And fortunately in a few years of practice I never encountered the weird &quot;Ki from 6 feet away&quot; throws, I guess I'm lucky :) All in all, I think the skills we learn are useful in real situations, but we would need to do a lot more &quot;sparring&quot; to be able to apply them efficiently." CreationDate="2015-06-10T00:22:11.943" UserId="3107" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11137" PostId="4733" Score="0" Text="Thanks. Yes, the 6 feet away ki projection thing is pretty rare in aikido. But the other more subtle things that I mentioned aren't at all rare. Yes, you do need real sparring to show you how you can possibly apply what you've learned. The way you train matters, not what style you train. Find an MMA or Gracie JJ school, enroll, and stay there for 6 months to a year. Take what you learned from that into your Aikido training. Your Aikido school won't like you doing it in class, of course, but you can roll (spar) after class or in private. It is very eye opening. Highly recommended." CreationDate="2015-06-10T03:51:26.747" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11138" PostId="5117" Score="0" Text="When I played Rugby it sure seemed like a martial art.  Broken limbs, concussions and people willing to practically kill themselves to win. Sure it's a running based martial art but you can't hit what you can't catch and if catching your target means the impact is likely to leave one of you unconscious that seems pretty martial to me." CreationDate="2015-06-10T04:45:36.543" UserId="923" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11139" PostId="5150" Score="3" Text="As it currently stands, this question invites opinions and discussions. It cannot have a &quot;best&quot; answer as there are too many factors.  What problem are you trying to solve here?" CreationDate="2015-06-10T06:44:35.227" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11142" PostId="5150" Score="0" Text="would other combative systems like systema, JKD, etc add in various elements i.e. range that weren't in Krav" CreationDate="2015-06-10T06:55:05.280" UserId="1924" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11143" PostId="5145" Score="0" Text="Well, my ego doesn't prevent me from considering new information." CreationDate="2015-06-10T07:05:10.633" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11144" PostId="5150" Score="1" Text="Even when you turn the question around and ask *What does Krav Maga lack that other arts have?* it is still a poor question because there is no one definitive answer and it will attract plenty of opinion." CreationDate="2015-06-10T08:58:07.583" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11145" PostId="5150" Score="1" Text="Yes!! All the MAs have their own combat styles, defensive and offensive strategies, etc... So learning more than 1 MA will definitely add more knowledge and experience to your MA knowledge. And fyi, it hasn't been mentioned anywhere that knowing KM would make you an unbeatable Martial Artist. And as @Sardathrion has mentioned, this can have so many arguable opinions, so an accurate answer cannot be provided." CreationDate="2015-06-10T09:41:51.040" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11146" PostId="5150" Score="0" Text="@slugster Saying that one can't ask what arts complement a given art is a bit ridiculous to me. &quot;What is a good complement to boxing&quot; is a fine question." CreationDate="2015-06-10T11:00:47.487" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11147" PostId="5150" Score="1" Text="I agree that it's unclear what is being asked, and why. The OP doesn't appear to know KM and is just being speculative. However, &quot;what does Krav lack for purposes of X&quot; is a perfectly answerable question." CreationDate="2015-06-10T11:02:28.297" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11148" PostId="5151" Score="2" Text="To me this question really isn't about martial arts so much as it is about child psychology. I think you might get a better answer if you posted this on the Parenting page (http://parenting.stackexchange.com/)." CreationDate="2015-06-10T13:38:45.543" UserId="4267" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11150" PostId="5153" Score="2" Text="Some reddit discussion: http://www.reddit.com/r/judo/comments/2jyboc/how_common_are_head_injuries_in_judo/" CreationDate="2015-06-10T15:10:38.137" UserId="5923" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11151" PostId="5154" Score="0" Text="Anyone knows how many people in Japan practised judo between 1983 till 2009?  If we knew that, we could tell what the death percentage was.  I suspect it will be very small indeed..." CreationDate="2015-06-10T15:33:09.083" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11152" PostId="5154" Score="1" Text="That would be an interesting statistics, but the scale may be subjective. For example, would you consider 1% death rate as large or small. Then the only ways we can justify the percentage is by comparing with the death rate in Japan for non judoka that died due to accident in any places." CreationDate="2015-06-10T18:03:19.133" UserId="5923" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11153" PostId="5153" Score="1" Text="I dispute this: &quot;Most of the time in randori, throw are not very clean. In Judo, Uke (throw receiver) may land head first.&quot; Throws in randori should be clean. Most of the time you shouldn't land on your head. Throws in shiai should be messy and involve frequent head-landings." CreationDate="2015-06-10T18:08:48.287" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11154" PostId="5153" Score="1" Text="@DaveLiepmann Thank you for the suggestion. I agree with you, *Shiai* is the correct term for contest instead of *randori* for free practice. I will fix the sentence. :-)" CreationDate="2015-06-10T18:12:12.210" UserId="5923" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11155" PostId="5154" Score="1" Text="In the report, I also notice that death injuries only happened on 7th grade and below. That means higher belt rank has no death injuries reported in Japan so far." CreationDate="2015-06-10T18:16:16.983" UserId="5923" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11156" PostId="5157" Score="1" Text="Did she have a c-section or an episiotomy or any other surgery while pregnant?  Where there any complications that might be relevant?" CreationDate="2015-06-11T13:50:21.210" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11158" PostId="5157" Score="0" Text="Good question. I would actually invite thoughts on both when delivered naturally and with a c-section" CreationDate="2015-06-11T14:16:50.160" UserId="1413" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11159" PostId="5140" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand: &quot;which most martial arts actually do&quot; - I don't feel there's significant similarity between WTF TKD back kicks and many other arts.  While the &quot;hybrid&quot; you describe undoubtedly adds power and safety compared to an unrotated back kick, it's dramatically less powerful than having the knee up slung around by hip rotation.  Another benefit of lifting the knee more to the side is the easy switch-up for a hooking kick with the heel.  Different priorities and compromises, which I feel trend strongly towards a higher knee.  I expect we'll have to agree to disagree and all that.  Cheers." CreationDate="2015-06-11T14:22:51.353" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11160" PostId="5140" Score="0" Text="We don't disagree on the technicals, just the way you might dismiss the back kick outright in favor of the side kick. Both have their advantages and disadvantages, and you'll get no argument from me that the back kick is inherently less useful during sparring than the side kick is. But, for a small number of real life scenarios (self-defense), the back kick is quite well suited. That's all I'm saying. Hybrid opening of the hip, though, is mechanically superior and used by most martial arts that do back kicks. The question is how much and when, not usually &quot;if&quot; they open it up." CreationDate="2015-06-11T17:01:54.380" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11164" PostId="346" Score="0" Text="I have a fitted upper and a fitted lower. They are great and comfortable after getting used to a mouthful of plastic. Used them for years. recommended." CreationDate="2015-06-12T15:21:24.587" UserDisplayName="user5931" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11165" PostId="5150" Score="1" Text="I understand that you're keen to get this question reopened, but it really is way too broad in it's current form - in the space of four questions you're basically asking for a full dissertation on the strengths and weaknesses of Krav vs. other arts. Questions have to be specific and reasonably answerable, and there really should be one question, not several. Remember that this is a Q&amp;A site, not a discussion forum, so try and tailor your questions that way." CreationDate="2015-06-14T02:12:15.353" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11166" PostId="5164" Score="0" Text="Hi Steve, will you plz share some tools as to how an individual can keep control over their mind if they are punched? Thank You." CreationDate="2015-06-14T10:28:57.397" UserId="3090" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11167" PostId="5164" Score="1" Text="How to keep yourself from panicking after being hit? It's implied in what I wrote. It comes from realizing that you've been hit before, and it wasn't as bad as you thought at the time, and so it's not that bad now when you get hit. You can also prepare your mind ahead of time, without ever having been in a fight. You envision the fight, getting hit, and repeat to yourself, &quot;That was nothing. Keep going. It's just pain. It doesn't matter.&quot; Then when you get into a real fight, you remember this and focus on surviving. Don't allow yourself to think about giving up, laying down in defeat." CreationDate="2015-06-14T18:23:06.237" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11168" PostId="5164" Score="0" Text="One other thing. When you're in a fight and are getting hit, the guy you're fighting against can seem like a madman bent on killing you. It's easy to think you just need to quit and get out of there. That's also a mental thing. You're scared, and he's scaring the crap out of you with all his wild punches and violence towards you. Keep your mind under control. Fight back. Raise your energy level up in response to his. But don't be stupid. Keep your wits. You'll need to fight smart, not just hard. Realize that his wild swinging punches are out of desperation and demonstrate a lack of skill." CreationDate="2015-06-14T18:34:44.307" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11170" PostId="4947" Score="0" Text="If you are strong enough, 2 months is plenty of time (if a person is weak, then yes it would take some additional time to build the strength). But this is with only proper split training technique. Although to your point, I personally wouldn't use in a combat situation (even though I can easily kick head height) and it really is for the classroom and certain tournaments in my opinion." CreationDate="2015-06-16T05:05:51.897" UserId="5804" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11171" PostId="5080" Score="0" Text="Sorry, static stretching isn't going to really help kicking height. Dynamic stretching will, static stretching will get you better at static stretching. You probably find it easier to get into a head kick because you've been practicing head kicks (dynamic movement) as opposed to any significant gains from static stretching. However, I think that this is a great exercise to do at the end of a class to help recovery so I have upped it." CreationDate="2015-06-16T05:09:32.107" UserId="5804" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11173" PostId="5172" Score="5" Text="AFAIK this originates in Japanese tradition. There may not be a good reason, or it could be tangentially related to some samurai custom of tying the belt a certain way for access to their weapon." CreationDate="2015-06-17T07:41:15.967" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11174" PostId="5173" Score="0" Text="When you say &quot;by the rules&quot; what/whose rules are these?  Thanks." CreationDate="2015-06-17T10:38:26.993" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11175" PostId="5173" Score="1" Text="The rules of the http://ibjjf.org/rules/" CreationDate="2015-06-17T11:12:05.163" UserId="5818" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11180" PostId="5178" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion &quot;strength supportive for Tae kwon Do&quot; isn't about martial arts?" CreationDate="2015-06-18T08:14:58.810" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11183" PostId="5178" Score="0" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because a fitness export would provide a better answer than a martial art expert. There's a fitness stack exchange site where this might be more appropriate. It is a good question, I think it does not fit well here." CreationDate="2015-06-18T09:05:39.100" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11184" PostId="5178" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann: Changed the reason for closing... Does it read better?" CreationDate="2015-06-18T09:06:14.377" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11185" PostId="5180" Score="0" Text="please tell some more about  interval training, which suits me better." CreationDate="2015-06-18T09:53:01.877" UserId="5915" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11186" PostId="5180" Score="1" Text="You go for a run, but you sprint full out for 30 seconds, then jog for 30 seconds, then run, then jog. Do this until you feel like you want to die." CreationDate="2015-06-18T10:07:15.223" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11187" PostId="5178" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion It's more accurate, but I'm still torn." CreationDate="2015-06-18T11:12:01.433" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11188" PostId="5178" Score="0" Text="Any idea why &quot;this belongs on another site in the SE network&quot; doesn't give the option of selecting Fitness? I only see Meta." CreationDate="2015-06-18T11:13:48.017" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11190" PostId="5179" Score="0" Text="Thank you for your helpful advice. I guess I'll narrow it down to three items.&#xA;&#xA;I called a wushu school, and spoke to the head instructor about my trial class. He's some old-school Chinese fellow, and when I told him about the knee he asked for my age. I said 20, and he told me &quot;you're 20, what are you worrying about?&quot; Red flag? I'm still thinking of doing the trial class, though." CreationDate="2015-06-18T12:22:04.270" UserId="5952" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11191" PostId="5179" Score="1" Text="Well, I mean there ARE people out there who can cover it all, but those folks are amazing and hard to find.  It can take years to find someone who really can cover everything.  In the meantime, you should find a GOOD school/teacher, and along the way you will develop some connections and insight that will help when you do run across those folks.   That said... yeah, &quot;what are you worried about?&quot; not a great sign there." CreationDate="2015-06-18T16:17:22.557" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11192" PostId="5178" Score="1" Text="@DaveLiepmann - Because MA is a beta site. You can't recommend migration from a beta site, you can only flag. I am inclined to leave it here, as it is more widely applicable to a MA audience, than the limited number of people on a fitness site that would benefit from the answer." CreationDate="2015-06-18T19:07:57.860" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11193" PostId="5182" Score="0" Text="-1. Exercise (ANY exercise, including MA) you will only lose flexibility to the limits of the range of motion. Stronger muscles are more flexible than weaker ones. I would also point out that while technically correct, much of TKD demands flexibility for optimum, or even decent performance." CreationDate="2015-06-18T19:11:44.510" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11194" PostId="5183" Score="0" Text="Hah! We are on the same page for the weightlfting, I recommended Stronglifts rather than SS. :p" CreationDate="2015-06-18T19:39:48.990" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11195" PostId="5183" Score="1" Text="@JohnP Jinx! :D" CreationDate="2015-06-18T19:42:16.790" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11196" PostId="5184" Score="1" Text="Your point about modifying 3x/week strength programs to 2x/week and adding rotational work is critical." CreationDate="2015-06-18T19:43:25.763" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11198" PostId="5176" Score="2" Text="Could you expand upon this, perhaps actually detail what weight lifting should be? And maybe without the text speak writing style?" CreationDate="2015-06-18T19:48:46.213" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11199" PostId="2542" Score="3" Text="-1. Unproven mystics make for a poor training program, as does outlandish anecdotal claims." CreationDate="2015-06-18T19:52:23.887" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11200" PostId="5175" Score="0" Text="What kind of fighting game do you compete in?" CreationDate="2015-06-18T20:13:51.833" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11201" PostId="5180" Score="1" Text="Interestingly I do TKD bag drills specifically as my interval training. I pick a combo and run it at full strength and speed for 2 min, 30 second rest. I run each combo from each side and maybe three or four different sets of combos as my endurance allows." CreationDate="2015-06-18T20:55:07.430" UserId="3105" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11204" PostId="968" Score="0" Text="Not tai chi, but TCMA in general: stone locks, polearms, gymnastic battle ax swinging, enormous muskets, and punching things: http://chinesemartialstudies.com/2014/03/10/through-a-lens-darkly-22-heavy-knives-and-stone-locks-strength-training-in-the-traditional-chinese-martial-arts/" CreationDate="2015-06-19T08:08:06.300" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11205" PostId="5182" Score="0" Text="@JohnP While I agree to a point - I only offer the flexibility warning for the individual training mentioned by the OP (and a couple of other common individual regimes). Group activities usually include pre and post stretching. Exercise classes such as Yoga and pilates will generally help flexibility." CreationDate="2015-06-19T08:22:16.940" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11206" PostId="5180" Score="0" Text="That's a pretty good thing to do. But I don't THINK it's a good alternative. I may be wrong, but I think interval training would be better at developing endurance. Not that what you're doing isn't really good. I just think interval running or cycling is slightly better. Note that I said I THINK so. I didn't do any sort of scientific study into the matter." CreationDate="2015-06-19T09:13:47.657" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11207" PostId="5180" Score="0" Text="What I'm saying is: do both, don't just do one of the two types of endurance exercise. Your method teaches great muscle memory." CreationDate="2015-06-19T09:15:13.277" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11209" PostId="5185" Score="0" Text="Please avoid asking questions in answers. If you feel you need clarification, request it in a comment under the OP." CreationDate="2015-06-19T14:52:08.260" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11210" PostId="127" Score="0" Text="What @pythonian29033 said. I'm a relatively unassuming looking guy, not shredded, but a heavyweight fighter nonetheless that can do some real damage. Muscles =/= strength, and in fact I've found the other guys I've both watched and fought that have the huge muscles gas quicker due to using significantly more oxygen. That being said, if you're looking to improve striking power instead of bulk up higher weights lower reps are recommended" CreationDate="2015-06-19T19:55:49.787" UserId="5814" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11211" PostId="5179" Score="0" Text="That what are you worrying about line is definitely a red flag. As Bankuei said, go for the people that will work with you, not against you. A good teacher would rather see you in every class modified but succeeding than in every other class or only once or twice a month because you're in that much pain. Don't get me wrong, going in to a martial art you will be stiff and sore at first but it shouldn't be excruciating pain. Like my parents told me as a child, if it hurts then don't do it!" CreationDate="2015-06-19T20:12:21.703" UserId="5814" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11212" PostId="5175" Score="0" Text="Super Smash Bros. Melee." CreationDate="2015-06-20T02:32:07.253" UserId="5952" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11213" PostId="287" Score="0" Text="Check out elasticsteel.com for splits and flexibility." CreationDate="2015-06-19T21:31:54.740" UserDisplayName="user5959" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11214" PostId="5178" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann mods can migrate it, but normally we would ping the mods on the target site first and get them to check if it would be a good fit. Matt is a mod on fitness, so he can shortcut that process. But we don't want to migrate all fitness related questions, it's good to keep some of them here." CreationDate="2015-06-20T02:37:24.860" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11215" PostId="5185" Score="1" Text="Its more of a prediction/rhetorical question than an actual question." CreationDate="2015-06-20T14:23:25.853" UserId="5958" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11216" PostId="5187" Score="1" Text="I don't do it and don't have a good resource for how, but I hear this is the kind of thing people tape their fingers for. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCRffx_SS-0" CreationDate="2015-06-20T16:54:35.280" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11217" PostId="5187" Score="0" Text="Yeah, like Dave said, tape your fingers. Also, give yourself some time to recover before you use the tape. Next, talk with your doctor about anti-inflammatory medications specifically for the joints. You can try any NSAID such as ibuprofen, but I think there are more targeted drugs for this condition (Celebrex maybe?). Ice your joints immediately after a workout. Supplements like glucosamine and chondroitin might help, but there's not a lot of evidence for it (give it a try and see). A doctor might be able to tell you more." CreationDate="2015-06-21T03:23:54.437" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11219" PostId="5135" Score="0" Text="&quot;How to be a fighter without being a murderer ?&quot;&#xA;&#xA;For starters don't get into fights. After that fights are chaos, you don't know what will happen." CreationDate="2015-06-22T03:47:38.847" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11220" PostId="2875" Score="0" Text="@jitsCode No, that would be a separate question." CreationDate="2015-06-22T12:42:34.393" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11221" PostId="5178" Score="1" Text="@slugster - It was ultimately closed by David Clemens, and as you say, I agree, I think it belongs here. A key component of martial arts ability is strength and conditioning, and I think by keeping that content here and open, we can hopefully gain more participants through related searches. Can you review/discuss for reopening?" CreationDate="2015-06-22T19:51:35.430" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11222" PostId="5178" Score="1" Text="@JohnP I'm cool with these types of questions provided they are reasonably specific, and we don't get a whole bunch of *&quot;What workout should I do for martial art X?&quot;* derivatives. I prefer to let the community reopen it if they see fit, and this one is almost there. I might start a question on Meta later today and then people can thrash it out a bit." CreationDate="2015-06-22T22:27:18.520" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11223" PostId="4459" Score="0" Text="are you still in 1800?" CreationDate="2015-06-23T00:23:13.187" UserId="5818" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11224" PostId="5086" Score="0" Text="Exactly as Larry says!!!  We certainly have beginners sparring with black belts the first time they spar - the reason is that the black belts are better at pitching themselves a notch above the beginner's level and helping them, coloured belts often still have some ego and can't control themselves as well." CreationDate="2015-06-23T09:04:22.333" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11225" PostId="5086" Score="0" Text="I meant competition fighting." CreationDate="2015-06-23T09:08:35.107" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11226" PostId="5191" Score="0" Text="I am familiar with buddy taping, shown with the index and middle fingers. What is the tape doing on the ring finger, where there is one wrapping on the outermost joint and one below the next one?" CreationDate="2015-06-23T15:44:12.607" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11227" PostId="4621" Score="0" Text="Another concrete, though non-martial arts, example of a sportsman teaching their techniques freely is Mariano Rivera, the former Yankees closer. He would show anyone how to throw his signature pitch, but the problem is they still couldn't reproduce it. http://www.northjersey.com/story-archives/klapisch-yankees-mariano-rivera-tried-but-failed-to-teach-signature-pitch-1.1214925" CreationDate="2015-06-23T16:23:38.940" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11228" PostId="4619" Score="0" Text="Consider the perspective of the teacher on &quot;secrets&quot; and exams. It does not make sense to teach advanced material students until they have mastered the simpler components. It's a waste of the student's time to try to combine two separate principles if they don't understand the principles separately. A good teacher will feed students &quot;secret&quot; material as they develop for the students' benefit, not their own." CreationDate="2015-06-23T16:47:47.783" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11229" PostId="5200" Score="0" Text="Foam roller, so like a trigger point then? Nice. Got my girlfriend one of those. It's pink but who cares? Lol" CreationDate="2015-06-24T02:14:56.207" UserId="5814" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11230" PostId="5191" Score="0" Text="I always do the buddy taping. But I know this technique make your ligaments stronger and you still can close your hand. If you taping on top of the joint you aren't able to close the hand." CreationDate="2015-06-24T05:55:18.527" UserId="5818" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11231" PostId="5125" Score="1" Text="I agree with you. There is no point in risking the injury after operation. I was in similar situation and I waited 3 months for my eyes to properly heal before any kind of sparring." CreationDate="2015-06-24T09:11:26.373" UserDisplayName="user5645" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11232" PostId="5200" Score="1" Text="Personal experience, foam rollers are amazing." CreationDate="2015-06-24T12:19:11.770" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11233" PostId="5194" Score="0" Text="Hum, not sure if the gif helps or not..." CreationDate="2015-06-25T13:19:24.683" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11234" PostId="5201" Score="0" Text="Do you mean that a katana can be used with *either* hand rather than *both* hands?" CreationDate="2015-06-26T03:58:44.407" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11235" PostId="5201" Score="0" Text="He probably means both those things, considering the Katana is a two-handed sword." CreationDate="2015-06-26T07:58:18.650" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11236" PostId="5201" Score="1" Text="Where did you read that sword schools in Japan (I assume that's what you mean by &quot;Samurai schools&quot;) did not care about eft hand or right handedness?  As far as I am aware, there are no left handed sword schools in Japan." CreationDate="2015-06-26T10:18:45.603" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11237" PostId="5201" Score="0" Text="What do you mean by &quot;Samurai schools&quot;? Samurai were a class, you were either born into it or promoted into it. Samurai was never a degree you could get some any schools." CreationDate="2015-06-26T10:19:46.647" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11238" PostId="5203" Score="0" Text="In Aikido, we do sometimes do the sword kata on the left and/or in decreasing order. However, this is always to train your brain to do things differently and not &quot;historically accurate&quot;." CreationDate="2015-06-26T10:25:32.480" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11239" PostId="5203" Score="1" Text="Historically, I would imagine the Japanese swordsmen of the past sometimes trained off-handed for the same reason you do today.  But the &quot;official&quot; techniques are probably right-handed because they practiced the way they were most likely to use it, because their primary concern was battlefield effectiveness.  From there it becomes a matter of tradition." CreationDate="2015-06-26T11:46:16.050" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11241" PostId="5211" Score="3" Text="Aikido: Yes, it is true that it take longer to become proficient than in some other arts. Ueshiba even stated that you should have degree of competence in another art before starting Aikido but, as we know, he was somewhat mental -- said with the uttermost respect. However, we start sparring at the first session: just get out of the way of the strike for now. So, we do train to avoid from the zeroth hour." CreationDate="2015-06-29T06:39:57.793" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11242" PostId="5209" Score="5" Text="This does not match my experience. About half our dropouts are people who have no instinct for defense whatsoever, and resist learning one.  This is one of those &quot;people say&quot; opinions of which I am _VERY_ skeptical without some evidence. After all, people say that you can't go to the moon, or fly, or travel over 35mph, or...." CreationDate="2015-06-29T08:37:18.490" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11243" PostId="4619" Score="1" Text="I don't think there is any skill of any kind that you can learn without periodically demonstrating proficiency.  Most sports include exams - we call them &quot;games&quot; or &quot;matches&quot;." CreationDate="2015-06-29T08:40:27.773" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11244" PostId="5211" Score="1" Text="I will say that, when transitioning from one martial art to another, there is often a bit of a lag as you're fighting your already-trained reflexes and trying to do something different. I could see that also working with &quot;good instincts&quot; in a fight." CreationDate="2015-06-29T13:03:11.963" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11245" PostId="5215" Score="1" Text="The apartment units are privately owned, and my landlord is super cool. I don't think it'd be a huge issue, I also live on the top floor. Would it really be that big of a deal to hang a heavy bag from the ceiling? I say this out of inexperience, not out of argumentation or anything of that nature." CreationDate="2015-06-29T17:21:05.960" UserId="5978" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11246" PostId="5210" Score="0" Text="Why do you think you should start with a punching bag?" CreationDate="2015-06-29T17:26:46.403" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11247" PostId="5210" Score="0" Text="It seemed like a good way to train more specifically toward what I want outside of just physically working out (push-ups, sit-ups, weight training, etc.) which I already do. Plus it seems like a great way to relieve stress. Would you recommend something different?" CreationDate="2015-06-29T17:29:21.470" UserId="5978" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11249" PostId="5215" Score="0" Text="Most apartments would throw a fit because it's putting holes in the ceiling for the anchor points, but I say check with your landlord first and if they're cool with it then I say go for it. Save yourself the $100 for the bag stand, make sure you have plenty of room for the swinging of the bag, and anchor it to the ceiling." CreationDate="2015-06-29T17:52:43.710" UserId="5814" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11250" PostId="5215" Score="0" Text="Are the holes massive? Putting holes in the walls/ceiling was fine to mount TV's or Projectors. Is this going to be much different? Do I have to worry that the 100lb bag will rip something down from the ceiling?" CreationDate="2015-06-29T17:55:17.897" UserId="5978" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11251" PostId="5215" Score="0" Text="Here is a step by step on how to install it. http://healthyliving.azcentral.com/install-heavy-boxing-bag-ceiling-3271.html&#xA;&#xA;Basically it depends on what kind of mount you're using for the ceiling and if you need to reinforce the beam at all" CreationDate="2015-06-29T17:59:00.800" UserId="5814" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11252" PostId="5215" Score="0" Text="Hmm, this one suggests that I need access to the attic so I can work on the top of the joist. This is obviously impossible. Is that the only way it can be done? I have seen several different ideas on how to prevent damage (such as using an anchor with a bungee, and a heavy spring between the chain and the bag to prevent transfer of energy into the ceiling) but I don't want to invest all this money into this only to find out I can't even do it." CreationDate="2015-06-29T18:41:37.037" UserId="5978" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11253" PostId="5215" Score="0" Text="The other option I found is only using a 35 pound bag which obviously you can't go full bore on but it uses a pull-up bar, a couple carabiners, a lashing strap, and the bag itself, and will run you total about $60-70 USD for the whole setup. http://www.primermagazine.com/2011/train/a-value-knock-out-the-apartment-friendly-punching-bag-solution-2" CreationDate="2015-06-29T18:58:00.490" UserId="5814" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11254" PostId="5215" Score="1" Text="Marked your answer as accepted since you've been so helpful and it more or less covers everything. I really appreciate your extra help. Ultimately, I probably won't get a heavy bag for my apartment. The risk doesn't seem worth it, I will try and find a gym or somewhere nearby that I can stop at after or before work. I really like the 35-lb punching bag idea, only I don't want to have to permanently wedge a pull-up bar between my door frames." CreationDate="2015-06-29T19:39:55.793" UserId="5978" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11256" PostId="5216" Score="2" Text="Could you narrow it down some?  Yes, body type influences martial art, but most (if not every) martial arts can be adapted to persons of any body type.  Discussing martial arts and body type generally is going to be non-productive because it is not specific enough." CreationDate="2015-06-29T20:38:25.863" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11257" PostId="5222" Score="1" Text="+1. That is a very vehement statement.  In addition, your statement about modifying a style if a person is disabled is spot on and should be highlighted." CreationDate="2015-06-30T07:55:29.073" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11258" PostId="5216" Score="2" Text="There is a difference between selecting a sport where you have natural advantages due to body type and learning to fight because sports have rules, but fighting does not. You should indicate whether your goal is to be good at a particular sport, or whether you want to learn to fight." CreationDate="2015-06-30T13:15:01.520" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11259" PostId="2542" Score="0" Text="That's why the most powerful and dangerous masters in the history of martial arts, nearly all focused on chi, chi-gung and other advanced internal aspects of the arts, including the Shaolin and Taoist monks for Milennia. JUST because there aren't pathetic western &quot;scientific studies&quot; done to &quot;prove&quot; it to doubters and to those with no insight, doesn't mean that thousands of years of emperical, anecdotal and writings from countless masters is wrong. Just as Chinese medicine, herbs and other natural cures are Constantly being validated by western medicine, chi &amp; Chi-gung should not be discounted" CreationDate="2015-07-01T06:08:19.833" UserId="1486" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11260" PostId="1652" Score="0" Text="I disagree about which arguments to contest. The directness issue is about not chambering, which you can do equally well with a vertical or horizontal fist. The strength and impact point is really a discussion about straight punches versus hooks, not fist orientation. And the as for alignment and structure, if you are punching directly in front of your chest, I don't see how you can avoid torque; the force vector from your fist to your shoulder will create torque about your centerline regardless of your elbow orientation." CreationDate="2015-07-01T14:05:05.203" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11261" PostId="5229" Score="0" Text="Agreed completely about the handing off to senior students. When I was training in TKD the belt system was WTF - white, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, purple+white strip, brown, red, black. We sometimes had purples and above working with blues and below due to class size, though normally it was a poom or 1-3rd Dan working with the lower ranks. Master Rob was a 4th Dan. That being said, the dummy without a dummy is also confusing to me. I say to OP go with what you're comfortable with. Does one school recognize the other if the comfort level dips below where it's just weird?" CreationDate="2015-07-01T20:38:28.687" UserId="5814" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11262" PostId="5228" Score="0" Text="WOW, those fees are high!..." CreationDate="2015-07-02T07:03:40.443" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11264" PostId="5191" Score="0" Text="What do you do for the pinky knuckle furthest from the palm?" CreationDate="2015-07-02T13:38:10.367" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11265" PostId="5191" Score="0" Text="If I understood @mattm, also I buddy taping." CreationDate="2015-07-02T23:42:23.523" UserId="5818" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11267" PostId="5228" Score="0" Text="What is the monthly rate? Amortizing those gives you less then $50 per month. Instructors are entitled to eat. Also, is new school solely living from the school, where old school has a &quot;real job&quot;? Lot of info needed." CreationDate="2015-07-03T01:08:21.623" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11268" PostId="4677" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand I've had many discussions on similar topics.  The challenge that English likes to define things by our language, while the Chinese prefer to define their language by things.  The Tai'Chi masters identified something useful that they could feel, and all agreed upon a term for it.  You were expected to learn and grow as a master taught you what uprooting meant.  Contrast that to English, where you can expect a thing to be defined by words, and you can tailor your practice to those words." CreationDate="2015-07-03T05:32:50.237" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11269" PostId="4677" Score="1" Text="No, I don't buy it. I understand that there are books about this, written in Chinese, which say things similar to what Sridank wrote. But I also understand that authors of cryptic stuff like this aren't going to tell you anything you don't already know. Ie, you either know it already, and it makes sense to you, or you don't know it, and the text makes no sense to you. I understand uprooting. But I also see that quote as deliberately cryptic and utterly useless for telling someone else what uprooting means. It's a non-answer." CreationDate="2015-07-03T05:57:52.810" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11270" PostId="5240" Score="1" Text="Define &quot;dirty&quot;... if I need to defend myself then I don't consider anything to be &quot;dirty&quot;." CreationDate="2015-07-03T09:38:51.700" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11271" PostId="5240" Score="0" Text="I would define it as &quot;nose pulling&quot;?, eye gouging, fish hooking the mouth etc, rather than the traditional kicking punching etc Which I believe are all valid in traditional Ju jitsu. ... Though Very true I would do anything as well whilst defending myself." CreationDate="2015-07-03T10:10:05.347" UserId="5993" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11272" PostId="5240" Score="0" Text="Someone teaching to actively do long lasting harm to somebody else is likely to get you on the wrong end of LEO should you ever use it. Please see a defence lawyer in your local for more details." CreationDate="2015-07-03T10:12:47.990" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11273" PostId="5240" Score="0" Text="To make it clear, I am not being taught to do lasting harm,  these moves arepart of ju jitsu. The teacher has taught us that the primary focus is to get out of the situation." CreationDate="2015-07-03T10:38:27.200" UserId="5993" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11274" PostId="5240" Score="2" Text="Do not accept an answer too soon.  I tend to leave it for 24hours at least so as to encourage others to write their own answers." CreationDate="2015-07-03T12:03:04.260" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11276" PostId="5221" Score="0" Text="Judo competitions are divided by rank: generally they use one for below brown, one for brown, one for black." CreationDate="2015-07-04T13:13:57.587" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11277" PostId="5047" Score="0" Text="By &quot;Modern street self defence&quot; see British Combat Association; http://britishcombat.co.uk/ or Dave Turton's http://www.allstylesmartialartsassociation.co.uk/ Both are heavily experienced in real world fighting. They take traditional training and turn it into something usable. And I've read 'Angry White Pajamas' so am aware of Police forces using Aikido, as well as having worked as support staff in UK Police forces and am aware of their opinions of Aikido which aren't positive (Preference was Thai Boxing or Boxing)." CreationDate="2015-07-05T15:38:24.560" UserId="5804" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11281" PostId="5228" Score="1" Text="Also, how many classes are available per week per school, and how many can you attend?" CreationDate="2015-07-06T15:57:59.533" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11282" PostId="2542" Score="5" Text="-1 just because Shaolin and Taoist monks are good at kung fu doesn't mean they know what they are talking about when it comes to science.  This is appeal to tradition / argument from antiquity, and it is not valid argumentation." CreationDate="2015-07-06T18:21:44.673" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11284" PostId="2542" Score="0" Text="Many of the techniques Shaolin perform are based on very demanding physical prowess. whether they use their body weight or dumbells are just semantics. It's all conditioning." CreationDate="2015-07-07T05:11:29.817" UserId="5804" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11285" PostId="2542" Score="0" Text="As an aside Chi real or fake arguments are pretty fruitless. Bit like arguing over religion or politics nobody will change sides and everyone thinks they are right." CreationDate="2015-07-07T05:15:04.577" UserId="5804" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11286" PostId="5222" Score="0" Text="Yup, i would just add, be honest with the results you wany. If you want to do fancy kicks? Do you want tradition? Competition? A work out? Spiritual? Etc. If I were more honest  I would have probably trained in TKD  or wushu. I stuck with karate for mamy years and ended up resenting it because I wasn't honest With myself." CreationDate="2015-07-07T05:29:35.340" UserId="5804" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11287" PostId="5122" Score="1" Text="None, do some light calisthenics: Jumping jacks, air squats, little jump rope, little shadow boxing. Nothing high intensity, just get the heart rate up a bit for a couple of minutes." CreationDate="2015-07-07T13:53:07.570" UserId="435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11288" PostId="5190" Score="0" Text="agree with mattm, especially goal 2. As largely confirmed by anecdotal evidence from forums over the years and not personal experience, I've heard many stories of conditioning and discipline practice verging on abuse (instructors punching muscles in stretched positions, jumping on backs to achieve splits and just irrational conditioning exercise that serves little purpose than to become good at those irrational conditioning exercises!). So maybe watch a few classes and see whether you think it makes sense." CreationDate="2015-07-08T01:10:20.473" UserId="5804" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11289" PostId="2542" Score="0" Text="Chi is not fake, it's been long since proven in science, it's simply called ionic energy and is part of the electrical activity of the nervous system. The energy used to activate the muscles comes from the EMF of the brain, generated by the will. All chemical reactions use and generate electricity. This is why a human being moves via electro/chemical mechanisms. The Chinese long ago realized that deep breathing with certain movements takes in more of this &quot;stuff&quot; or chi from the air, even if they didn't know the specifics of how or why, they knew it worked. It came from watching how animals.." CreationDate="2015-07-08T01:15:29.137" UserId="1486" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11290" PostId="2542" Score="0" Text="..breath during fighting, when resting, when they're sick, etc. By breathing low down from the dan tien, they greatly increased their health, power, strength, longevity, toughness, mental clarity and more. I've been practicing these things for over thirty years and the strength, power, speed, toughness (internal iron body) and more given is remarkable. It's not religions, fluff, religion or the like. It CAN be proven by anyone that simply does the training for a period of time. Tests are done in China constantly using modern technology proving this. Read Dr. Yang Jwing Mings books on this." CreationDate="2015-07-08T01:17:40.103" UserId="1486" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11291" PostId="2542" Score="0" Text="I have trained with huge wrestlers, body builders and others that are much more muscular, and they were always shocked at how much stronger than I was than them. Just like people were amazed at Bruce Lee's strength for his size, though I'm bigger than Lee, some of these guys were much bigger than me. I explained it was internal training, tendon strengthening exercises, which ancient gung-fu has entire training systems based on this, wai dan and nei dan training, light weights used in specific ways, etc.. it Absolutely works. For those that want to live in denial, to each his own. peace" CreationDate="2015-07-08T01:21:20.223" UserId="1486" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11292" PostId="649" Score="0" Text="The two references to MMA confuse me. In-house sparring isn't MMA competition even in (most) MMA schools. And why would training MMA instead of &quot;ninjutsu&quot; make the question moot?" CreationDate="2015-07-08T02:38:17.813" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11293" PostId="5253" Score="0" Text="Do you have any fillings in your teeth?" CreationDate="2015-07-08T03:07:59.033" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11294" PostId="5253" Score="0" Text="Don't believe so" CreationDate="2015-07-08T03:21:16.303" UserId="4352" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11295" PostId="2542" Score="0" Text="All matter is energy, so why do people find the idea that humans have their own battery power source called chi sooo hard to believe?? &quot;EVERYTHING IS ENERGY                                                               http://worldtruth.tv/nothing-is-solid-this-is-the-world-of-quantum-physics/" CreationDate="2015-07-08T09:09:05.123" UserId="1486" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11296" PostId="5255" Score="0" Text="If it doesn't really answer the question then it's probably best to leave it as a comment." CreationDate="2015-07-08T11:09:05.297" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11297" PostId="5253" Score="0" Text="If someone is causing damage to your body, you should tap. You can explain why afterward. I don't know the BJJ rules for choking, but in judo, a referee will stop you immediately if you try to choke someone with the gi over the chin because it's ineffective (does not cut off the blood or even air) and may lead to injury." CreationDate="2015-07-08T16:06:14.810" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11298" PostId="5253" Score="0" Text="Yes, I agree with you. But the question still remains. I want to know what people think about jiu jitsu and the effects it can have on ones teeth" CreationDate="2015-07-08T23:44:10.730" UserId="4352" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11299" PostId="5256" Score="1" Text="Are you asking about standing or ground fighting?" CreationDate="2015-07-09T12:09:50.803" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11303" PostId="5262" Score="1" Text="-1. Do 30 minutes of exercise (cardiac and weights) a day for six months and eat more healthily: Feel the difference.  Do no exercise and eat McDonald food for six moths: Feel the difference. Did I &quot;prove&quot; Qi/Chi? In addition, this does not follow any scientific method whatsoever: no clear hypothesis, no control group, not repeatable, no expected results..." CreationDate="2015-07-10T06:58:34.537" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11304" PostId="5261" Score="0" Text="-1. This does not even come close to using the scientific method.  What is your hypothesis?  What is your controlled repeatable experiment?  What are your expected measurable results? How are you going to filter bias?  How are you going to use a control group? This question reads like a thinly veiled attempt at quackery promoting the existence of qi/chi." CreationDate="2015-07-10T06:58:39.083" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11305" PostId="5261" Score="3" Text="Creating physical sensations in the body as a result of visualization is a relatively trivial feat.  However, even if you &quot;feel something&quot;, this tells you nothing about the veracity of Qi.  All you will know by this is that you &quot;felt something&quot;." CreationDate="2015-07-10T12:06:37.790" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11307" PostId="5261" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion Forget for a moment the scientific (in)validation of qi. This question concerns how to experience what is classically called qi, which is something(s?) you can actually feel and not an merely abstract concept. Do I know what that is exactly? No, I don't. It's not touch in the traditional understanding. Will it be useful to you once you do feel it? I'm not sure. It definitely will not enable to you learn Jedi Force pushes. Maybe it will lead to a better understanding of your own body." CreationDate="2015-07-10T12:09:47.627" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11308" PostId="5261" Score="0" Text="@TheWudangKid I don't think I have mentioned visualization. Have I suggested this somewhere?" CreationDate="2015-07-10T12:11:46.887" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11309" PostId="5261" Score="3" Text="You didn't mention it.  You state that you are trying to &quot;feel Qi&quot;.  Visualization is one proposed method of doing so.  However, the point of the comment is that, no matter how you go about it, whatever you feel is simply a feeling, nothing more.  It tells you literally nothing about the veracity of Qi as a phenomenon." CreationDate="2015-07-10T12:14:04.717" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11310" PostId="5261" Score="1" Text="+1 This is a straightforward challenge that I'd like people who believe in qi to answer. Those answers promise to be deeply informative." CreationDate="2015-07-10T12:38:24.047" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11311" PostId="5262" Score="3" Text="What are these &quot;real&quot;, &quot;unexpected, and unambiguous feelings that arise over sustained practice&quot;? Obviously *some* feeling will occur while doing anything 30 minutes a day for 100 days, so how do we distinguish the qi feeling from the non-qi feeling? Or does literally anything resulting from this practice qualify as a qi feeling?" CreationDate="2015-07-10T12:41:01.567" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11312" PostId="5261" Score="2" Text="@mattm Regarding visualization: **lots** of people not otherwise considered to be mentally ill convince themselves that they feel demons inside them, or that they feel magic flowing through their arms, or that they're experiencing past lives. Relying on self-produced feelings to prove or define something is not exactly sturdy ground." CreationDate="2015-07-10T12:56:23.837" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11313" PostId="5114" Score="1" Text="Very nice answer! Thank you very much! +1" CreationDate="2015-07-10T13:22:50.910" UserId="5606" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11314" PostId="5261" Score="2" Text="I just want to state this as a consideration for what you're attempting to do: Gravity, for example, is a theory explaining a phenomenon, namely that things fall down.  My problem with Qi as a theory is that there is no one phenomenon that it attempts to explain.  When asked &quot;what do you mean by Qi&quot; people answer anything from &quot;life force&quot; to &quot;hitting stuff really hard&quot;.  Without a consistent definition, there's no need to even talk about Qi." CreationDate="2015-07-10T13:41:20.827" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11315" PostId="5262" Score="2" Text="What part of &quot;what you can expect&quot; is qi? It all sounds like what I'd expect from working at any physical challenge over time. Are you defining qi as the feeling of relaxation when one is standing properly?" CreationDate="2015-07-10T17:34:23.437" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11316" PostId="5261" Score="0" Text="Yes, I understand there are clear limitations to only having a feeling and it scientifically proves nothing (this is after all why this is a separate question). What I am mainly trying to point out you should feel something and be able to personally verify that certain exercises produce particular feelings, which is considerably different than pontificating." CreationDate="2015-07-10T17:53:37.377" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11317" PostId="5262" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I would hesitate to say define, but I think that is close enough to start. And if you are standing properly and relaxed, you should be able to do it for a long time, hence the 30 minute guideline." CreationDate="2015-07-10T18:11:33.137" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11318" PostId="5262" Score="3" Text="I think Dave's question is the same as mine: how will you know that the feeling *is* Qi without first defining what Qi is supposed to feel like?  Otherwise, it could be an itch, a tingle, or gas.  And here's your Catch-22: how do you know what Qi is supposed to feel like until you've felt it?" CreationDate="2015-07-10T19:01:45.013" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11319" PostId="5256" Score="0" Text="it would be both" CreationDate="2015-07-10T20:08:14.427" UserId="5993" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11320" PostId="5257" Score="1" Text="In agreement with Juann being tall or short has in both cases advantages and disadvatages. One has to potentiate advantages and minimize disadvantages with premeditation." CreationDate="2015-07-10T23:35:06.683" UserId="5914" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11321" PostId="3059" Score="0" Text="Relson Gracie is red belt and he is 62 years old. At http://ibjjf.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/IBJJF-Graduation-System-Poster.pdf they said nothing about the age to get red belt. It's 31y at black, 7y red and black, 10y red and white." CreationDate="2015-07-11T11:54:38.390" UserId="5818" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11322" PostId="5262" Score="1" Text="OK, here is the dirtier answer. Many of these minor sensations can be called qi. But no one cares if you feel a little tingling in your hands. I am trying to describe for you the point at which the sensation becomes unambiguous. Maybe it's like a runner's high without the running? For a longer discussion of the what you should expect to feel when, I think you are better served looking at the references I have listed." CreationDate="2015-07-11T11:57:07.423" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11323" PostId="5265" Score="0" Text="Qi work is a major investment of time. I do think it leads you to understand how to be healthier in a reasonable amount of time by explicitly teaching relaxation to expend less physical/chemical energy at all times of day. Whether this is a useful time-benefit tradeoff depends on your age and general energy level (in the nonphysical sense), which is why you mostly see older people studying it. After several years of study, I still do not understand its fighting applications (if there really are any) so I definitely think you are better off learning to fight initially outside a qi framework." CreationDate="2015-07-11T12:19:40.013" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11324" PostId="5266" Score="0" Text="-1, no definition of Qi, using mystical explanation for something that is easily explained by bio mechanics, and flawed experiment." CreationDate="2015-07-13T06:53:50.960" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11325" PostId="5261" Score="2" Text="&quot;What I am mainly trying to point out you should feel something and be able to personally verify that certain exercises produce particular feelings&quot; -- So any feeling you have either while doing or after exercise is &quot;qi&quot;?  All that can be explain without referring to a mythical energy thus rendering qi either utter non-sense or a catch all term for &quot;you have exercised&quot;." CreationDate="2015-07-13T07:00:38.937" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11326" PostId="5261" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion It's not necessary for there to be mythical energy for the feeling to be useful. The practice instructions are in the archaic language of qi, so in order to understand, for example, when to stop focusing on standing and practice other exercises, you have to interpret the qi instructions based on what you feel. You can develop a strong correspondence between what exercises you do and what feelings you get, which makes the qi instructions useful. Standing until your energy gates open, for example, can be interpreted as relaxation, which is harder than most expect, and clearly felt." CreationDate="2015-07-13T12:19:12.423" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11327" PostId="5266" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion where did I claim the explanation was mystical, as opposed to biomechanics/neuromechanics?  I did spend two of the four paragraphs pointing out that the effect was explainable with science, and why I deemed that acceptable in the nature of what the OP is looking for.  And if I may quote the original question: &quot;Rather than try to define it first, the first step should be to feel some version of it.&quot;" CreationDate="2015-07-13T15:19:05.067" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11328" PostId="5266" Score="0" Text="&quot;You won't find anything unambiguously uniquely Brazilian Jujitsu in a hold or a joint manipulation until you take some time in that art either.&quot; What? &quot;that's not unambiguous, because it's actually 1 foot in front of me&quot; What? The analogy to math is even more ludicrous: math is the name for the principles and relationships and methods you describe, for which we have no alternative explanations. The kid didn't use intuition, they used math. In contrast, examples of qi always have alternative explanations." CreationDate="2015-07-13T16:14:21.723" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11329" PostId="5266" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann: Have you taught math?  It seems like they use math, until you see the problems they have.  Then you realize that the assumption that they use math is a poor model for actually teaching them.  And name one hold or joint manipulation in BJJ that you learn in the first few days which does not have some corresponding-but-slightly-differently-explained hold in another martial art." CreationDate="2015-07-13T16:41:29.493" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11330" PostId="5266" Score="0" Text="The issue is really a linguistic one.  Qi is a concept rooted in the Chinese language, which is very focused on relationships, especially relationships with one's self.  English, on the other hand, is heavily rooted in objective wordings, and is actually rather limited in its words regarding relationships.  Accordingly, many who seek definitions for Qi seek it in a linguistic framework that does not actually line up, and then assume it cannot exist because nobody can give them a simple definition." CreationDate="2015-07-13T17:01:49.630" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11331" PostId="5261" Score="1" Text="Can you add a **bolded** line to your question specifying whether you are looking for a purely metaphyiscal Qi, or if you are looking for Qi as part of understanding how the mind and body work?  The answers which are actually trying to answer your question are getting slaughtered in the votes.  From the comments, it appears that people are coming in with the assumption that the only definition of Qi is the metaphysical one, and thus anything remotely physical is automatically downvoted for &quot;having alternate explanations.&quot;  It's a problem I've noticed the MA Stack Exchange has." CreationDate="2015-07-13T17:05:42.387" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11333" PostId="5269" Score="0" Text="Fair warning, this may be flagged as a duplicate of http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/5163/how-do-boxers-and-other-martial-arts-practitioners-deal-with-pain. That being said, from personal experience, it hurts. It hurts like hell. But the thing is, it's not the end of the world to get hit and once you realize that it's much more mental than physical and you just kind of deal with it. Source: Former Muay Thai fighter now MMA" CreationDate="2015-07-13T20:59:58.713" UserId="5814" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11336" PostId="5269" Score="3" Text="This is a bit small to be an answer, but look at the face of MacDonald at the end of his UFC 189 fight.  If the reaction he had does not qualify as pain, I don't know what does." CreationDate="2015-07-13T21:53:48.570" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11340" PostId="5266" Score="1" Text="If qi is nothing but biomechanics/neuromechanics, then we should use correct term: either biomechanics or neuromechanics. If qi is something else, then what is it? If you cannot define it, then it is useless to name it. Furthermore,  *one **cannot** create an experiment without (at least) a clear hypothesis of what you are trying to validate.*" CreationDate="2015-07-14T06:48:20.427" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11341" PostId="5261" Score="0" Text="@CortAmmon: Anyone is welcome to believe whatever mythical paradigm they chose.  Believe, [by definition](http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/believe), is accpecting something as true without evidence. If one is asking for **evidence** for their mythical paradigm, then they have to obey the [scientific method](http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/scientific-method?q=scientific+method) or be labelled a [fraud](http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/fraud)." CreationDate="2015-07-14T07:03:27.160" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11343" PostId="5269" Score="1" Text="@MattLerner: I believe the question to be different enough so that it merits different answers. Although, they should be linked." CreationDate="2015-07-14T07:45:42.727" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11344" PostId="5269" Score="0" Text="@CortAmmon: I think your comment would make a fine answer. You could even gauge the perceived pain on the pain scale." CreationDate="2015-07-14T07:46:40.720" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11346" PostId="5261" Score="0" Text="@CortAmmon I am not sure I understand what you mean by purely metaphysical. It should be clear that I think you should be able to feel what has been classically described as qi in your own body. In your answer you describe this as requiring purely metaphysical qi, but according to one definition I see &quot;abstract theory or talk with no basis in reality&quot;, something you can feel is not metaphysical." CreationDate="2015-07-14T11:40:16.570" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11347" PostId="5266" Score="0" Text="I don't understand at all what you are trying to say about metaphysical qi and perspective. In your example, either person can clearly perform a calculation to adjust for how their observation can be viewed from the other person's perspective. As for the fast and ambiguous criteria, there may be no truly fast way, but my opinion is that the time to develop a strong feeling should be measured in not in years, but months. I was wondering whether there is a faster way than that, but it appears I am in the minority believing the ambiguous criterion can be achieved." CreationDate="2015-07-14T11:59:17.190" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11348" PostId="5261" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion That is true if you believe the narrow claim that the scientific method is the sole source of evidence for all things.  There are many who agree with that opinion, but when one begins talking about topics that are on the fringe of science, clearly there are those who believe the word &quot;evidence&quot; has a slightly different meaning than you believe it does.  That's okay, up until the point where they claim their evidence is scientific evidence.  Then fraud becomes an isue." CreationDate="2015-07-14T15:19:36.473" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11349" PostId="5261" Score="0" Text="@mattm I use metaphysical in the philosophical sense.  There are some wordings for Qi which describe it as something which is beyond the &quot;natural laws,&quot; in line with the existence of a deity or creation story for a cosmology.  Then there are some who believe Qi is a descriptive word for a qualia (another philosophical word for things we feel and experience).  I think most believe the latter, but the arguments against Qi treat it much more as the former." CreationDate="2015-07-14T15:21:25.633" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11361" PostId="2058" Score="0" Text="-1 because this dismissal of Qi does not actually address any of the behaviors described as using Qi.  For example, no amount of fast-twitch or &quot;snap in the muscles&quot; describes the Shaolin needle-through-glass demonstration sufficiently to go beyond Mythbusters trying to get a major league pitcher to do it (that was funny).  It also does not cover the techniques used in Tai Chi, which require integration of many muscles (some of which are fast twitch) in concert, which calls for far more than merely 'increasing' them." CreationDate="2015-07-15T04:13:55.300" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11362" PostId="2058" Score="0" Text="While I think a positive answer of &quot;Qi is....&quot; may run into issues that it is hard to come up with valid wordings for it, I think it is not correct to give a negative answer of &quot;Qi is nothing because...&quot; which does not account for any of the traditional demonstrations of Qi.  While the scientist in me starts from the assumption that there is a physical explanation for each demonstration, when it is difficult for anybody to accomplish the feat without claiming they are using Qi, one should at least admit that the &quot;tests of Qi&quot; point to something that may have meaning." CreationDate="2015-07-15T04:19:23.303" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11363" PostId="2058" Score="0" Text="Qi is &quot;life force&quot;. You can just as easily call it vitality." CreationDate="2015-07-15T07:09:25.953" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11364" PostId="5261" Score="1" Text="@CortAmmon: There are no topics at the fringe of science. Science is a method to understand the world. 'nuff said." CreationDate="2015-07-15T07:19:43.657" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11365" PostId="5261" Score="0" Text="There are not shortcuts nor fast ways to accomplish anything great in life. Even less in martial arts." CreationDate="2015-07-10T23:25:17.890" UserId="5914" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11366" PostId="5261" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion I strongly disagree that &quot;There are no topics at the fringe of science.&quot;  There are quite clearly phenomena that can be observed that can not YET be explained by science, like the muscle knots. Doctoral students earn their science degrees by increasing the bounds of human understanding because there are things we still don't understand. Here is a sampling of things scientists are working on and cannot yet explain: https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg18524911.600-13-things-that-do-not-make-sense/ and http://discovermagazine.com/2007/aug/unsolved-brain-mysteries" CreationDate="2015-07-15T12:55:28.837" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11367" PostId="2057" Score="2" Text="That video was pretty embarrassing." CreationDate="2015-07-15T13:35:25.727" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11368" PostId="5276" Score="1" Text="I agree with everything in the beginning about &quot;qi&quot; being an amorphous description like &quot;love&quot;...but then you propose a bunch of tests and drills, which you say demonstrate something &quot;there&quot;. That doesn't make any sense! Either we're talking about a vague term like, for instance, &quot;heavy hands&quot; in boxing (which refers to a grab bag of elements like timing, hip power, efficiency, and whole-body coordination), or we're talking about a specific kind of force or thing. When you ask &quot;is qi effective for fighting&quot; then only the latter ridiculous definition makes sense." CreationDate="2015-07-15T15:34:08.740" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11369" PostId="5276" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Maybe I was not clear; I may have to add more words.  These are not my tests.  These are demonstrations and tests which the masters of their arts consider to be demonstrations of the use of qi.  Whether one believes in qi or not, if their demonstrations are hard to reproduce without training from an art that uses qi, one at least has to admit that there are skills that nobody has succeeded learning in any way that doesn't involve qi.  Once we admit that the term means something, we can then discuss whether it has valuable application or not" CreationDate="2015-07-15T15:56:10.857" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11370" PostId="5276" Score="0" Text="(For reference, I do not consider demonstrations to be &quot;valuable fighting applications.&quot;  I consider them to have a different purpose which is more related to the teaching of an art than the application of it)" CreationDate="2015-07-15T16:00:33.020" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11371" PostId="5276" Score="1" Text="Whether someone &quot;believes in qi&quot; depends whether &quot;qi&quot; in that instance means something akin to &quot;heavy hands&quot; in boxing (or &quot;power&quot; in wrestling), or something more like &quot;magic&quot; in Penn &amp; Teller's routine. Nobody can perform sleight-of-hand &quot;magic&quot; unless they've trained &quot;magic&quot;, but that doesn't mean there's something &quot;there&quot;. This is exactly analogous to performing feats like 'needle thru glass' or 'unbendable arm', which can be explained reasonably as physical phenomena that we refer to with the acknowledged-as-vague term 'qi' or ridiculously as supernatural powers that we call 'qi'." CreationDate="2015-07-15T16:06:33.917" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11372" PostId="5276" Score="0" Text="As for the &quot;is qi effective for fighting&quot; example, because of how difficult it is to define qi directly, it is hard to separate from the arts that claim to use it.  Once again, I just seek to say &quot;there's evidence there is some meaning behind the term.&quot;  If we see fighters cross training in Kung Fu, specifically to train in the same subtle details those qi based arts claim to use qi for, that suggests that it may be a thing worthy of at least having a word, if for no other purpose than as a direction to say &quot;this points at the part of our arts we are most proud of.&quot;" CreationDate="2015-07-15T16:07:21.163" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11373" PostId="5276" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann You give a comparison to Penn&amp;Teller, and I think I can work with that comparison.  Penn&amp;Teller do something that is incredibly difficult to do. If they were to claim &quot;We do it using kumquata, and we are willing to teach you to use kumquata to do illusions if you like,&quot; one would not claim &quot;kumquata is nothing,&quot; because the people who are using the word are using it in reference to a skill we do not have. One would have to say &quot;kumquata is meaningful to those who practice it, and they seem to be able to do things that I can't do.&quot; Only at that point does the real discussion start" CreationDate="2015-07-15T16:11:20.483" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11374" PostId="5276" Score="0" Text="And with that would need to be a natural warning that any claim that kumquata provides supernatural powers must be taken with a grain of salt.  However, that doesn't mean we can't learn something useful by sitting into Penn's Q&amp;A session talking about the health benefits of kumquata.  And who knows, maybe we'll find something where we exclaim &quot;I didn't know that was natrually possible!&quot;  Then we learned something" CreationDate="2015-07-15T16:13:02.817" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11375" PostId="5211" Score="0" Text="One addition I would make: When I think of vulnerability, I also think of being maneuvered into a fight that I could have avoided.  With that particular vulnerability, it is easily possible for a fighter who has just started training to become overconfident as  a side effect of learning all of these effective techniques.  I wouldn't put it in the same bin as the slowed reflexes you asked about, but I think it's an important vulnerability to keep in mind." CreationDate="2015-07-15T16:28:06.723" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11377" PostId="4187" Score="0" Text="No, don't ever let someone pass! This is a real and stupid thing to do. You just need time to adapt the technique." CreationDate="2015-07-16T05:26:38.470" UserId="500" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11378" PostId="5280" Score="3" Text="Your friends statements lack a reason as to why Muay Thai would affect BJJ.  Without said reasons, we cannot state whether they are correct or not. I suggest either adding those reasons or remove that part of the question. I even lean towards the latter as it is not necessary for the question to be a good one." CreationDate="2015-07-16T06:36:36.010" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11379" PostId="5280" Score="0" Text="There are positives and negatives to every interaction in life.  Do you have a metric for how to compare them?  For example, if Muay Thai were to negatively affect your grappling skills (perhaps because you have less time to practice them) or even just change those skills slightly, but decrease the odds of needing those skills because you have other skills available, is that a good or a bad thing?  Without knowing your individual life goals, it could be difficult to give any definitive answer." CreationDate="2015-07-16T11:59:29.303" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11381" PostId="5276" Score="0" Text="I hear you on the last 3 comments, but that approach raises a problem when the word distracts people. For instance, the supernatural connotations of the word 'qi' both A) attracts disproportionate attention compared to the (amazing) strength feats of Olympic lifters, gymnasts, and combat athletes (which require just as much dedication and have just as much relevance to MA) and B) often leads people *away* from the hard training that would lead to accomplishing impressive martial feats. Using the word 'qi' turns into a misleading advertising tactic instead of a useful descriptor." CreationDate="2015-07-16T13:07:20.180" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11382" PostId="5276" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I think your last two sentence touch on something I consider to be very profound.  You use the phrase &quot;impressive martial feats.&quot;  Now I know you did not mean to claim martial arts are to impress, but the word choice points to a subjective challenge all MA's face: what is &quot;good martial arts.&quot;  There is not agreement on that, and I think that's a good thing.  We just have to accept that.  The other side of that argument is also valid: we should not automatically dismiss a martial art because of its advertising word.  If one says &quot;qi doesn't exist,&quot; what does that say for kung fu?" CreationDate="2015-07-16T13:28:30.793" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11383" PostId="5276" Score="0" Text="Let us [continue this discussion in chat](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/25921/discussion-between-cort-ammon-and-dave-liepmann)." CreationDate="2015-07-16T13:28:32.567" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11384" PostId="5280" Score="0" Text="Do you fear a negative effect independently of your friends, or just because of them?" CreationDate="2015-07-16T16:02:26.883" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11386" PostId="5269" Score="0" Text="have a look at the answer here: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110926044241AAyEIgw the answer states that your nervous system can adapt to the pain so that it is no longer &quot;as unexpected&quot; and therefor not as painful at first perceived. Try this: go to the pool, and jump in the cold water. you will be cold, and feel that it is uncomfortable. swim for a while, and the cold water suddenly is perceived to be much warmer - this is your brain having recalibrated the sensory input from your skin. The difference is that getting &quot;used&quot; to pain is not as fast a process..." CreationDate="2015-07-17T08:21:34.650" UserId="5848" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11389" PostId="4954" Score="1" Text="Its a pretty standard tactic of Bunk/Woo/Fake science to respond to experiments which don't go their way with &quot;but quantum mechanics!&quot; or &quot;well WE look at systems as a WHOLE.&quot; No you don't. You just keep shifting your word-soup slightly each time your entire argument is debunked by science. There is no reason to believe that &quot;Qi&quot; is anything at all in our physical reality. Older generations believed all kinds of made-up stuff, just let it go." CreationDate="2015-07-17T15:37:36.687" UserId="1076" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11390" PostId="4954" Score="0" Text="@Graham The only reason for a rational person to let something go is if that thing is harming them, taking value from them. In the years I have studied qi based ways of thinking, the greatest harm I have found is that of the verbal lances from those who not only wish to dismiss an entire nation's worth of martial arts (which is your right to do), but also wish to enforce that attitude onto others so there is no dissent. I have found this position typical of those who forget that many ways of thinking can only falsify hypothesis, and presume that they can be used to prove truth of a hypothesis." CreationDate="2015-07-17T15:56:37.133" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11391" PostId="4954" Score="0" Text="And actually, since you chose to bring up &quot;quantum mechanics&quot; and try to use it as a tool to discredit a position, it is only fair for me to poke and prod using the same tool.  We are told by scientists that electrons and photons and quarks exist, but did you know that is not technically true according to QM?  QM theories state that there is a &quot;wavefunction&quot; that describes the universe completely.  Particles such as photons are actually just portions of this wavefunction which are noticeably statistically independent in normal conditions." CreationDate="2015-07-17T16:13:01.340" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11392" PostId="4954" Score="0" Text="Particles like photons are merely bookkeeping tools for making sense of the QM world through the viewpoint of wave packets.  So if you knew all this already, congratulations for having researched the topic sufficiently before using it as a tool against others.  If you did not know that these particles are merely bookkeeping tools in our heads, then you may want to pay careful attention to what you believe science has told you, because it suggests you have an incomplete story.  Particles are useful.  I wonder what other useful bookkeeping models there are out there." CreationDate="2015-07-17T16:14:56.800" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11393" PostId="4954" Score="2" Text="The verbal lances mostly come out when you hijack scientific terms to make your bunk sound more verified. &quot;Whether Qi can be measured by science is still difficult question&quot; - No, its not. &quot;Science&quot; flatly rejects all this &quot;Qi&quot; nonsense because Qi has no formal definition and hasn't/can't be verified. If you JUST said &quot;Qi is magic&quot; and left out all the pseudo-science, I'd have less of a snarky tone." CreationDate="2015-07-17T17:16:30.487" UserId="1076" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11394" PostId="4954" Score="0" Text="@Graham Your science is less patient than mine.  For instance, my science never questioned that conception occurs, just because they had yet to use a microscope to develop the terms like &quot;cell&quot; and &quot;egg&quot; needed to define conception in a scientifically testable way.  It would readily claim that variables in the conception process cannot yet be measured because we have no formal definition for them, but it would never claim conception simply doesn't exist because it lacks a rigorous wording for it.  The non-rigorously defined regions of science are where it makes its progress, after all." CreationDate="2015-07-17T17:31:20.620" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11395" PostId="4954" Score="0" Text="I think it is fair that, if one believes 'qi is a load of bunk, and I refused to even entertain any idea otherwise until someone gives me a formal definition in a notation of my choosing,' that one should also carry more restraint when discussing one's opinions of it.  If you shut down any conversation about what it could mean before it begins, you should not be surprised when nobody convinces you it exists." CreationDate="2015-07-17T17:37:44.590" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11396" PostId="4677" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand I might phrase that slightly differently.  Its not so much a non-answer as a potentially unhelpful answer.  It certainly answers the question in the only way which is theoretically &quot;correct:&quot; using the language intended to describe Tai Chi.  However, its usefulness may be suspect.  If one is learning Tai Chi, one should ask their teacher this question.  A &quot;formal&quot; answer like this will be the first answer, so repeating it in SE may not be effective.  If they have no teacher, or cannot understand their teacher, the formal answer also falters." CreationDate="2015-07-17T17:48:10.513" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11397" PostId="4677" Score="0" Text="However, I do feel that a Q&amp;A on a term like &quot;uprooting&quot; would be incomplete without at least ONE formally correct answer within the language of the art.  Without it, one may learn a facet of &quot;uprooting,&quot; but miss the greater message.  With it, one may still miss the greater message, but at least there's text letting you know that there's more to the word than meets the eye." CreationDate="2015-07-17T17:49:15.057" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11398" PostId="4677" Score="0" Text="@CortAmmon Respectfully, I disagree. The challenge is that Mr. Weigand (and several others on this site) are unwilling to seek out an actual master and learn from him. Practice stance training from someone in the Shaolin Wahnam lineage and you will quickly begin to accumulate qi in the bottoms of your feet which will cause them to feel sturdy and heavy while the rest of you feels light, agile, and fresh. You may feel yourself sticking to the ground or have any number of other experiences. However, you first must set aside your pride and seek out a master." CreationDate="2015-07-17T19:00:40.020" UserId="4479" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11399" PostId="4677" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand This answer can be either helpful or unhelpful depending on what you expected. If you expected to gain great insight into the feeling of being 'uprooted', I apologize. My intention was to combat Mr. Liepmann's vendetta against internal martial artists by offering reasonable, accurate, and well-written answers to questions he's asked with the purpose of discrediting the notion of qi as anything besides what he's already familiar with through other martial arts." CreationDate="2015-07-17T19:05:01.330" UserId="4479" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11400" PostId="5262" Score="0" Text="@mattm You have clearly done your research. I would just like to add that not everyone agrees it is safe to practice zhan zhuang by yourself unsupervised. Some people think it can be very harmful." CreationDate="2015-07-17T19:32:52.753" UserId="4479" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11401" PostId="4370" Score="0" Text="As far as I knew, the maximum amount of a people a single strike could affect was one person per strike.  Unless you're talking about knocking people into other people?  Which is a good idea, but hardly reliable." CreationDate="2015-07-17T20:47:06.527" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11402" PostId="4677" Score="0" Text="@sirdank My instructor was a direct student of Master Chen Qingzhou, grandmaster of Chen style Taiji, and I've trained with Master Chen Qingzhou directly as well. He's apparently not legit enough for you, eh?" CreationDate="2015-07-17T23:13:50.700" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11403" PostId="5288" Score="2" Text="Haha, I do enjoy (Aikido) randoris...and agree with all your points." CreationDate="2015-07-18T15:31:41.057" UserId="271" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11404" PostId="5290" Score="0" Text="Not really an answer, but I would change clubs, or ask the teacher if he knows a solution" CreationDate="2015-07-20T09:02:15.063" UserId="293" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11406" PostId="4677" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand I don't know anything about your teacher or Master Chen Qingzhou. However, it is very important to differentiate between practicing wushu for putting on performances and practicing kung fu for fighting. If a teacher tells you internal force is the same thing as body alignment, they are probably practicing wushu for performance, not for combat." CreationDate="2015-07-20T13:37:16.810" UserId="4479" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11408" PostId="4678" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I tried not to alter the gist of this one too much because my opinion remains the same. Also, because I don't want to have two similar, if not identical, answers, I'd want to delete this one and leave only my revised answer. However, deleting downvoted answers and submitting new ones doesn't seem right. If you still think I should in spite of those reasons, I will." CreationDate="2015-07-20T14:04:13.657" UserId="4479" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11409" PostId="4678" Score="1" Text="A &quot;a high-frequency vibration controlled by the mind and integrated by mind/body coordination into an ultra-fast wave-like unit&quot; is an easily tested phenomenon. It's also not clear to me at all how breaking sugar canes balanced on eggs, or breaking the bottom of two bricks, demonstrates anything qi-like instead of a regular physical phenomenon." CreationDate="2015-07-20T14:07:13.310" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11410" PostId="4678" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I agree. Cursory searching of thetaobums.com yields posts from several individuals who have visited Master Liao and tested his internal power. I added some clarification to my post regarding your second point. If you'd like me to submit a new answer, just let me know." CreationDate="2015-07-20T14:21:40.723" UserId="4479" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11411" PostId="4678" Score="1" Text="I guess I'm still not clear on how this trick relates to qi. Are you saying qi is skillful striking? I'm also still unclear on why the high-frequency vibrations, which would be dead-simple to identify with common physics equipment, haven't been found." CreationDate="2015-07-20T14:28:42.517" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11412" PostId="4678" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Please forgive me, I am used to talking with people who have a concrete definition of qi and have, for that reason, failed to define it explicitly. Qi is literally energy. Everyone has it flowing through them at all times sustaining their life. Some people cultivate it. Breaking the bottom brick is possible because my sifu channels his qi through the top and explodes it inside the bottom one. The force produced by the collision of his hand and the brick is negligible. The vibrations Master Liao is discussing have not been observed in a laboratory because we don't have (con't)" CreationDate="2015-07-20T15:17:45.867" UserId="4479" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11413" PostId="4678" Score="0" Text="Let us [continue this discussion in chat](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/26037/discussion-between-sirdank-and-dave-liepmann)." CreationDate="2015-07-20T15:17:50.763" UserId="4479" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11414" PostId="4677" Score="1" Text="@sridank: I have come to realize exactly the opposite. If your teacher says it's about &quot;chi&quot;, they're not telling you anything useful. They can't teach you how to use it for fighting. Instead, look for someone who can teach you internal mechanics. The mechanics aren't esoteric or mystical. P'eng jing can be learned in person after just a 5 minute interactive demonstration with a good teacher. It doesn't require 10, 20, 30 years of meditation. The jings are purely mechanical, not &quot;energy&quot; exercises. Abstracting it to &quot;chi&quot; means you have a teacher who doesn't know what he/she is talking about." CreationDate="2015-07-20T17:29:23.337" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11415" PostId="4677" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand I don't doubt you're correct based on your experience. However, I disagree that it's the real experience. When I say qi, I don't mean an abstract concept or a feeling produced by certain body mechanics. I mean the energy I absorbed into my palms this morning, the force that makes my arms vibrate when I practice my tai chi set, the trickling stream which sometimes flows through my meridians, and the light that scrubs the inside of my body out when I perform flowing breeze swaying willow. Qi is only an abstraction for someone who thinks they can do qigong when they really can't." CreationDate="2015-07-20T18:40:45.110" UserId="4479" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11416" PostId="4677" Score="0" Text="@sridank: At this point we're just repeating ourselves. I believe you've been taught a kind of &quot;health&quot; Taiji that doesn't train internal mechanics. Chi is the central focus of what your Taiji instructor teaches, apparently, and it's probably because he/she doesn't know internal mechanics and therefore can't teach it. Without internal mechanics, it is not Taiji. It only looks like Taiji from the outside. That's not me saying that. That is from the current grandmasters of the Chen style. They and their students can demonstrate internal mechanics. Find a Chen style school near you to confirm." CreationDate="2015-07-20T21:22:01.163" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11417" PostId="5294" Score="0" Text="This needs sources! Just because I am interested in seeing those primaries sources as well..." CreationDate="2015-07-21T06:44:58.380" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11418" PostId="5294" Score="3" Text="You state first that there was a powerful centralized government, then that there was no central government. Also, I find the statement &quot;The first documented forms of democracy were between these ninja towns&quot; very dubious. According to Wikipedia, ninja may date from the 12th century CE, while Athens in Greece had democracy in the 6th century BCE." CreationDate="2015-07-21T12:34:23.777" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11420" PostId="4927" Score="0" Text="Sinawali is actually a family of stick drills that all start with both sticks on the same side (closed)." CreationDate="2015-07-21T18:29:44.540" UserId="6032" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11421" PostId="4677" Score="0" Text="@sirdank: Internal mechanics are at the core of all internal martial arts (Taiji, Xing-yi, Bagua, etc.). They are the foundation. The &quot;jing&quot; are all qualities of motion based on internal mechanics. The chan-su jing (silk reeling) practice of Chen style trains the internal mechanics of P'eng, Lu, Ji, and An jing. The forms add more jing (over 20!). At the root of all jing is p'eng jing. You start with p'eng jing if you want to understand internal mechanics. From there, you add silk reeling. And then add forms. Glad to hear you're investigating Chen style. Hopefully they can teach you." CreationDate="2015-07-21T18:45:13.833" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11422" PostId="4677" Score="0" Text="One other thing. The reason why Taiji forms are done so slowly is because it's really hard for beginners to maintain proper internal mechanics during the movements of the form. It's not because of meditation or because you're bringing your &quot;chi&quot; to your palms or whatnot - although you certainly can do that if you want. It's the amount of mental concentration, where you're constantly adjusting yourself to ensure that the jing you're doing is being done correctly. It's hard! You can NOT do it fast. And that's why it's done slowly. Nothing mystical going on. It's all internal mechanics." CreationDate="2015-07-21T18:51:10.720" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11423" PostId="4677" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand I'm still confused about what internal mechanics means. Is it a certain way of performing a form? How can I identify it? Does this have something to do with Mike Sigman? Also, do you believe qi is energy or not?" CreationDate="2015-07-21T19:15:39.737" UserId="4479" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11424" PostId="4677" Score="0" Text="Internal mechanics is just a phrase that means, &quot;This is what you're doing inside your body, mechanically.&quot; You're doing stuff with bones, joints, tendons, and muscles. Internal mechanics are hard (or sometimes impossible) to see from the outside and hard to learn from text or even video instruction, so you usually need someone to give you an interactive, hands-on demonstration in person. Mike Sigman is someone who has done a lot to educate the Western world on the subject of internal mechanics, but he didn't make it up. If you ever have a chance to train with him, do it!" CreationDate="2015-07-21T21:38:08.953" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11425" PostId="4677" Score="0" Text="Let us [continue this discussion in chat](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/26095/discussion-between-steve-weigand-and-sirdank)." CreationDate="2015-07-21T21:41:19.677" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11427" PostId="5298" Score="1" Text="Welcome to the site.  This is a nice answer but lacks references.  If you were to add some, it would be a great answer." CreationDate="2015-07-22T09:44:42.717" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11428" PostId="5131" Score="0" Text="That is interesting. I would like to see your technique as I never heard of a limitation like this." CreationDate="2015-07-23T18:40:46.567" UserId="5804" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11430" PostId="2342" Score="0" Text="+1 Thank you for making the &quot;self defense or martial art or dancing or advanced driving&quot; argument!  Your phrasing is spot on!" CreationDate="2015-07-24T05:13:09.557" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11432" PostId="5304" Score="1" Text="This answer is in need of editing! As it currently stands, it is confusing and lacks references but it could be a really good answer." CreationDate="2015-07-24T07:58:45.750" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11433" PostId="5261" Score="0" Text="Given all the comments and anecdotal answers, how is this not either opinion based or too broad?" CreationDate="2015-07-24T15:56:18.820" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11434" PostId="5305" Score="0" Text="I hope you can find some good sources.  The grappling moves are often one of the first things lost in a lot of striking arts, however it usually &quot;hides&quot; in forms or as different moves.  You might have some better options looking at some grappling arts and looking for crossover movements - like a classic standing armbar/break is identical to what is often shown as an inside block with the forearm." CreationDate="2015-07-25T18:23:33.060" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11435" PostId="5306" Score="2" Text="The grappling found in karate is mostly optimized for enabling other attacks, such as strikes to the bones and joints (to break or dislocate them), trapping and joint locks to control your opponent while still hitting him yourself, etc. If &quot;karate is a grappling art&quot;, it is one that specializes in the trapping aspect of grappling as an enabling mechanism, but only superficially covers throws or ground fighting. Of course it's gonna lose in a judo competition against opponents that specialize in that sort of combat!" CreationDate="2015-07-26T06:49:12.963" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11436" PostId="5306" Score="1" Text="+1 exactly, my point is that if someone wants to learn to grapple, karate won't cut it for you." CreationDate="2015-07-26T15:12:41.790" UserId="5804" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11437" PostId="5306" Score="0" Text="But karate was originally a grappling art, or maybe a better description would be an art that teaches arm locks etc" CreationDate="2015-07-26T22:50:49.803" UserId="6052" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11438" PostId="5308" Score="0" Text="I'm somewhat confused" CreationDate="2015-07-26T22:51:04.397" UserId="6052" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11439" PostId="5308" Score="0" Text="@Silverbackgorrila About what, specifically?" CreationDate="2015-07-26T23:06:05.520" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11440" PostId="5314" Score="0" Text="Work your abdominals. When you think you've worked them enough, do them some more." CreationDate="2015-07-27T06:25:40.380" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11441" PostId="5314" Score="0" Text="Surly you answered your own question: &quot;The conditioning for Martial arts are a mix of strength, resistance and speed.&quot; Do that.  Am I missing something?" CreationDate="2015-07-27T06:45:00.047" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11442" PostId="5315" Score="3" Text="&quot;As always, check with a doctor before you change your diet or exercise regimen.&quot; This should be emphasised and bold. Overall, this is a very good answer." CreationDate="2015-07-27T06:50:58.200" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11443" PostId="5314" Score="0" Text="What martial art are you training for? This is overly broad until that is part of the question." CreationDate="2015-07-27T12:18:31.157" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11444" PostId="5316" Score="1" Text="-1 opinion doesn't count for much against decades of sports science." CreationDate="2015-07-27T12:19:22.960" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11445" PostId="5314" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion It's also unclear how resistance is distinct from strength." CreationDate="2015-07-27T16:15:49.627" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11446" PostId="5315" Score="1" Text="While I agree the timing of protein isn't that important, carbohydrate replacement is somewhat time dependent after exercise. It's also best replenished with a 3:1 carb:protein ratio drink (such as, oddly enough, chocolate milk)." CreationDate="2015-07-27T17:59:06.177" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11447" PostId="5291" Score="0" Text="+1 for teaching.  My seniors are constantly offering to work us through the basics.  They state that the best way to be *certain* you actually understand something is to teach someone else to do it.  Teaching well can potentially be even harder than doing it yourself.  This is *especially* true for any art which seeks finesse over strength.  If you want to practice technique yourself, you can also let them put you into a less advantageous position (of their choosing) before trying to resolve it without relying on strength yourself." CreationDate="2015-07-27T22:46:58.017" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11448" PostId="5315" Score="0" Text="You wouldn't happen to have a study or preferably a meta-study to back up the claim of 3:1 carb to protein ratio improving recovery? I don't even see how protein would improve recovery from a theoretical perspective. If anything, it should hinder it (because it might slow down the absorption rate of the carbohydrate)." CreationDate="2015-07-27T23:01:11.757" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11449" PostId="5314" Score="0" Text="Also, what events are you training for.  You mention a fight, suggesting a very particular event framework.  And, @DaveLiepmann, resistance training is a common training term, which generally refers to training against a resistive element like an elastic band.  Those who make the distinction treat that differently from training with weights, which they call strength training.  It is common to state that resistance training works muscles differently than strength training, though I don't believe the difference is universally agreed upon.  Many agree with you that the terms are unclear." CreationDate="2015-07-27T23:51:56.513" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11450" PostId="5314" Score="1" Text="@CortAmmon I am completely flummoxed by that distinction, since it seems nonsensical and I've never encountered it. Strength training is resistance training, and weight training is a member of both. Could you point me to a place where this distinction is made, or a person who uses this terminology?" CreationDate="2015-07-28T01:45:57.317" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11451" PostId="5314" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann You are right.  I had to go dig through articles to set things straight.  It appears resistance training and strength training are the same thing, per wikipedia, despite countless training plans offering &quot;strength and resistance training&quot; or &quot;strength or resistance training.&quot;  From the articles I read, it seems that &quot;strength training&quot; is predominately marketed towards men, and is usually given more of a weight focus, and &quot;resistance training&quot; is predominantly marketed towards women, and those programs tend to be more focused on bodyweight and elastic." CreationDate="2015-07-28T02:50:07.503" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11452" PostId="5314" Score="0" Text="It's that marketing speech that had me confused.  They use a muscle in the same way, but for one reason or another, people chose one word over the other, and there seems to be a gender based trend to the word choice." CreationDate="2015-07-28T02:51:33.447" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11453" PostId="5292" Score="1" Text="I was talking with Alvaro Mansor sun of http://www.bjjheroes.com/bjj-fighters/master-francisco-mansor, he told me, Roger Gracie won twice the world champion training just with white belts. He try tell me I have no excuses." CreationDate="2015-07-29T00:00:23.583" UserId="5818" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11454" PostId="5325" Score="0" Text="What concrete problem are you trying to solve? As it stands, the question might be a little over broad as a full answer might be several pages long." CreationDate="2015-07-29T07:03:42.717" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11455" PostId="5325" Score="1" Text="I am trying to understand the effects of shape, size, weight, etc. of a boxing glove-type &quot;weapon&quot; specifically on punching technique, over course of boxing history. Understand the differences in methods of power delivery and any effects it had on kinetics. How many times has the boxing glove changed significantly enough to change technique significantly?" CreationDate="2015-07-29T10:41:34.137" UserId="5958" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11456" PostId="5325" Score="1" Text="[Boxing first appeared as a formal Olympic event in the 23rd Olympiad (688 bce)](http://www.britannica.com/sports/boxing) and might be considerably older.  This [fresco describes young boxers from Akrotiri in Greece using gloves around (c. 1500–900 BC)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing#/media/File:Young_boxers_fresco,_Akrotiri,_Greece.jpg). Its history is **vast**. You need to narrow your time frame at the very least." CreationDate="2015-07-29T10:46:16.067" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11457" PostId="5325" Score="0" Text="hmm. ok lol. Is there enough data on boxing and boxing gloves from back then to make inferences to their technique for times so far in the past? I feel like there would be a good dividing line somewhere in recent history. and if so, how would i describe it or call it?" CreationDate="2015-07-29T10:53:42.520" UserId="5958" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11458" PostId="5325" Score="1" Text="If you restrict the question to the modern boxing glove then this is a fantastic question." CreationDate="2015-07-29T13:00:53.233" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11459" PostId="5325" Score="0" Text="What is a good way to describe the era of the &quot;modern&quot; boxing glove? Is &quot;modern boxing glove&quot; going to be good enough?" CreationDate="2015-07-29T18:32:51.710" UserId="5958" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11460" PostId="5328" Score="4" Text="I'm fairly certain most of the answers to this question are going to be similar to the answers to this other question: http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/4865/pursuing-tae-kwon-do-and-karate-at-same-time" CreationDate="2015-07-29T20:07:38.137" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11462" PostId="5332" Score="2" Text="I'd concur with this totally - cross training is usually quite beneficial. Don't be secretive about it, subterfuge leads to  incorrect assumptions and suspicion about your motives." CreationDate="2015-07-31T02:16:45.130" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11463" PostId="5332" Score="1" Text="I would lead with asking first. It is better to ask first rather than ask for forgiveness later. Also, the particular martial arts do not matter. Steve Weigand's answer applies equally well to any other martial arts." CreationDate="2015-07-31T03:08:17.137" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11464" PostId="5332" Score="1" Text="It sounds like *talking about it to others* is the solution to a lot of problems people are having. I wonder if it is the thing adults do to avoid problems⸮" CreationDate="2015-07-31T08:48:44.193" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11465" PostId="5332" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion: Well, we tend to put our martial arts teachers on pedestals. It distances them and makes them less approachable. But it's a two-way street. Teachers should make a point to reach out to their students and be more personable and approachable. And not just to the students they like, to everyone. That way there aren't just these cliques where some students are favored by the teacher, and the rest are outsiders. I've seen that happen many times before. This is all human behavior. It only changes if the teacher takes proactive steps to change it." CreationDate="2015-07-31T19:02:39.367" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11466" PostId="5313" Score="0" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because there is no single objective answer and it has little to do with Martial Arts (it's more about nutrition)" CreationDate="2015-08-01T06:19:11.283" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11467" PostId="5334" Score="3" Text="So far you have talked about the business and the marketing (special training! specialty/rare art!). Do you personally feel like you are learning something beneficial?" CreationDate="2015-08-02T15:08:26.827" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11468" PostId="5334" Score="0" Text="@mattm Hear hear!  I'd say that's the right question to ask!" CreationDate="2015-08-02T16:35:43.720" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11469" PostId="5335" Score="0" Text="I expect that the Chief Instructor will be having a conversation with the student this week to try to determine this.  This student does show a lot more control when participating in Point Sparring classes. He still does as much as he needs to ensure he wins the match but his aggression is generally toned down a lot - probably because students at this level are usually no challenge for him to 'beat'." CreationDate="2015-08-02T23:33:48.143" UserId="369" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11472" PostId="5335" Score="0" Text="We do have multiple classes per week but as he tends to go to all of those sessions semi-regularly it puts people off going to any of them.  Some students come for other classes but will bring their gear and only spar if he isn't there or do Point Sparring instead." CreationDate="2015-08-02T23:53:01.977" UserId="369" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11473" PostId="5335" Score="0" Text="You mention he tends to calm down if there is no one to &quot;beat.&quot;  Are there any students there who are sufficiently advanced to dominate him regardless of the aggression?  If so, does he go after them aggressively as well, or does he only become aggressive with a match that is close?  That may be a detail that would be helpful to identify when figuring out the best way to approach him." CreationDate="2015-08-03T00:01:45.760" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11475" PostId="5335" Score="0" Text="Yeah, most of the bigger and/or more advanced men are usually able to handle him with little trouble (generally speaking).  Having said that, if he goes harder against them then they will also lift too and that's when things can start to spiral out of control." CreationDate="2015-08-03T01:51:51.303" UserId="369" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11479" PostId="5332" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand: I do agree with you." CreationDate="2015-08-03T06:48:47.997" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11481" PostId="5334" Score="4" Text="This reminds me of the early days of my club when I was making $20/month but had to pay $100/month to the governing body. I was NOT ammused either." CreationDate="2015-08-03T12:20:59.320" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11482" PostId="5336" Score="2" Text="That is an absurd statement to make. You have no idea of the space rental costs, utilities, insurance, advertising, etc etc etc." CreationDate="2015-08-03T22:29:53.997" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11483" PostId="5344" Score="3" Text="I would amend that to &quot;skilled&quot; fighter. A &quot;great&quot; fighter would be one who could unleash when needed, but be able to control and adapt when facing an obviously weaker opponent in a learning setting. You learn nothing by bashing in the face of a less skilled opponent. That is ego stroking, nothing more." CreationDate="2015-08-03T22:48:07.557" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11484" PostId="5345" Score="0" Text="By your definition this student would probably be considered toxic.  Huge ego, is unsafe and, while I wouldn't say that he is overtly disrepectful,  I've definitely detected some 'attitude' at times." CreationDate="2015-08-04T06:43:46.257" UserId="369" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11487" PostId="5344" Score="0" Text="You're right. Though that's why I said to let him fight stronger/bigger opponents. He'll learn to be &quot;great&quot; soon enough." CreationDate="2015-08-04T06:56:19.690" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11489" PostId="5350" Score="1" Text="How &quot;strategic&quot; does a professional boxing or MMA match look to you?" CreationDate="2015-08-04T08:58:51.763" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11490" PostId="5350" Score="0" Text="MMA looks more strategic than boxing. Of course, a few strategic decisions are made in all martial arts. What else is a fighters style but the strategic decisions he's used to making in every fight? So, reading, for instance, article's on Pacquiao's boxing style, I see that as an article on Pacquiao's strategy." CreationDate="2015-08-04T11:32:33.520" UserId="6078" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11491" PostId="5333" Score="0" Text="A simple way to put students in their place is to have them spar someone beyond their capabilities." CreationDate="2015-08-04T12:03:43.493" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11492" PostId="4723" Score="0" Text="Another thought on preemptive strikes: if the opponent has any experience fighting from this intimidation stance, they likely have been struck at before.  You may find that that strike is exactly the thing they were asking you to do to overcome an internal limitation they have put in place to protect them from themselves.  You may literally play right into their hands." CreationDate="2015-08-04T18:09:24.603" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11493" PostId="5350" Score="0" Text="Everything is strategy. Most wrestlers try to feel for their opponent's weaknesses, trying to capitalize on them, while simultaneously playing to their own strengths. So if you're really good in one position, you're looking to get your opponent into that position somehow. I'm sure there are books on wrestling strategy which goes over what to look for in your opponent, how to attack, how to defend, etc. Unfortunately, it's not my sport, so I can't recommend any books." CreationDate="2015-08-04T18:15:56.890" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11494" PostId="4723" Score="0" Text="What I find most risky in this situation for the defender is to back down and not want to fight. Generally when they show weakness and an unwillingness to fight, they get attacked. The pre-emptive strike can go horribly wrong also. Just like you said, it's possible the attacker is suckering you into punching him first. But fight videos generally don't back up that theory. Bottom line is to be ready to flip that switch on and fight when you need to." CreationDate="2015-08-04T18:29:15.960" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11495" PostId="5329" Score="0" Text="Do most karate schools just teach striking only today" CreationDate="2015-08-04T19:40:02.503" UserId="6052" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11496" PostId="5333" Score="0" Text="We did consider bringing him to spar with the instructors but that probably would have been counter-productive.  The more advanced students are mostly able to handle him .  Having said that, he has a way of going too far, too hard with some of those guys too.  On multiple occasions he has pushed otherwise calm/controlled people to the point of wanting to pound him into the ground.  No other student has triggered this kind of response." CreationDate="2015-08-05T01:10:44.947" UserId="369" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11497" PostId="5350" Score="1" Text="I know some schools of jujitsu have gone to the level of flowcharts for thinking about their strategy ( http://www.jiujitsubrotherhood.com/2010/03/flow-diagrams-for-brazilian-jiu-jitsu/ ) My guess is that every art, including wrestling, has counterstrategies, though the question is how formalized these get is probably local to your instructor/school." CreationDate="2015-08-05T05:12:59.023" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11501" PostId="5353" Score="0" Text="I did tape my feet, but as I start sweating, the tape starts moving as well. I don't know if this happens because of pivoting, I have the feeling it's coming more from when I launch myself forward and the my back foot isn't usually flat on the mat. My heel is almost always off the floor so I basically push myself forward by using my big toe rather than the whole foot.&#xA;I'll have a look at exercise to toughen my feet, yardwork is hard to find when living in the city.&#xA;Thanks :)" CreationDate="2015-08-06T06:29:52.053" UserId="3194" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11502" PostId="5306" Score="1" Text="However it was originally designed, the grappling that karate teaches simply does not appear effective in mixed martial competition. Judo/BJJ have evolved quite a bit in the last century, and are much better suited to teach those techniques." CreationDate="2015-08-06T20:21:20.640" UserId="1076" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11503" PostId="5355" Score="5" Text="I don't recall ever seeing a study of any particular martial art's effects on life expectancy (positive or negative). This is really hard to study. Most people who take martial arts do it for a short period of time in their lives before moving on. For this kind of study, you might want people who train for longer periods of time, but for how long? And it might be self-selecting: People who train in martial arts the longest might be the types of people who would live longer anyway. Tricky." CreationDate="2015-08-06T22:45:17.380" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11504" PostId="5355" Score="0" Text="Unless you're in feudal Japan, I don't think you have to worry about strain on your body." CreationDate="2015-08-07T13:24:32.213" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11505" PostId="2559" Score="1" Text="While I don't disagree with what you have written above, I did just want to chime in to make a note about the ideas in paragraphs 7-9. Adding more weight to your sword will actually increase the amount of energy needed to move it in **any** direction due to the inertial property of matter. An object with greater mass will require more force to accelerate it, therefore your muscles will need to work harder to achieve that force which, in turn, leads to muscle growth. This isn't to say that the training methods outlined are incorrect, just to say that there would be benefit to adding weight." CreationDate="2015-08-07T13:27:41.147" UserId="5971" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11506" PostId="5336" Score="1" Text="With all due respect, the reasoning might be true JhonP, nevertheless, that business model seems like a decision someone made to decrease costs, but surely not the only alternative. And that is something I would want to account for when taking a decision." CreationDate="2015-08-07T22:23:23.650" UserId="4304" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11507" PostId="5345" Score="0" Text="Don't keep somebody around who is unsafe and discouraging to other students, and has already resisted efforts to modify his behavior. Why would you want someone like that in your school?" CreationDate="2015-08-08T00:55:24.353" UserId="698" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11510" PostId="5365" Score="2" Text="Thank you, I planned on asking one of our female Senpai's if it's okay. that's what I was worried about as well, the bleeding." CreationDate="2015-08-09T05:37:24.523" UserId="6087" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11511" PostId="5364" Score="0" Text="Yes, Thank you. I actually have it figured out now, and you are correct, the right foot slides out first. I didn't know the katas vary between different styles, and I am Kyokushinkai. Thank you for your help" CreationDate="2015-08-09T05:41:26.683" UserId="6087" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11512" PostId="5369" Score="6" Text="This question... could probably do with some refinement.  Asia (&quot;the Orient&quot;) is a huge place.  Even in any given country, there's a huge difference in subcultures depending on the region, whether you're in the cities or rural areas, etc.  The quality of schools, and students, is all over the board just like anywhere else." CreationDate="2015-08-09T21:28:15.987" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11513" PostId="5373" Score="1" Text="This doesn't really answer the question. It's a general discussion of high kicks." CreationDate="2015-08-10T03:04:13.430" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11514" PostId="5362" Score="1" Text="Just wanted to chime in: Some karate styles such as Matsumura Seito Shorin Ryu practice their own Sanchin kata without dynamic tension. The goal is not to build muscle. They practice it with relaxed, gentle movement and use a different kind of breathing and kiko with it. It's a soft version, compared with most other sanchin kata practiced by most other styles. It uses open hands instead of closed fists also." CreationDate="2015-08-10T05:02:44.427" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11516" PostId="5139" Score="1" Text="I like the point about kicking the thigh. And that point stresses another; your approach will be different depending on whether or not you are facing trained fighters or brawlers. In my opinion, true martial arts practitioners are not brawlers. It goes against the philosophy of martial arts." CreationDate="2015-08-10T10:22:47.680" UserId="5848" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11517" PostId="5355" Score="1" Text="It depends on what kind of strain you're talking about, Juann Strauss. Taking hits to your head can cause cumulative damage to your brain, which might lead to increased risk of depression and suicide. Taekwondo practitioners often have a habit of hyper-extending the knee, which may cause arthritis or tendonitis of the knees or later on in life. Dynamic tension (karate, chi-kung, etc.) could increase blood pressure which might lead to dementia, loss of eyesight, etc. All kinds of possible ways in which contemporary martial arts practice could lead to health problems. Can't easily be dismissed." CreationDate="2015-08-10T22:12:54.707" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11518" PostId="5383" Score="2" Text="This could be an okay question if you dropped the reference to a cartoon...." CreationDate="2015-08-11T05:38:11.430" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11521" PostId="5370" Score="0" Text="Look up rabbit punch. It's illegal in boxing, but it's pretty effective if you can connect with it." CreationDate="2015-08-11T12:17:14.047" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11522" PostId="5373" Score="0" Text="Jumping kicks are preferred if you're afraid of getting swept." CreationDate="2015-08-11T12:19:20.720" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11526" PostId="5360" Score="0" Text="That may or may not be legal depending on the rules they are sparring under. Additionally, it does not answer the question, which is about how to improve footwork and speed." CreationDate="2015-08-11T14:41:11.677" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11530" PostId="5381" Score="0" Text="Haha. That was simple! Here I was trying to scour ancient philosophy texts for something similar sounding to find the true origin. I'm pretty sure Bruce Lee wasn't the first to come up with this idea, and I remember reading something similar elsewhere, but I forget where." CreationDate="2015-08-12T04:08:32.167" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11538" PostId="5383" Score="1" Text="My downvote is because your question shows you did no research whatsoever. 'nuff said." CreationDate="2015-08-12T12:28:40.423" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11539" PostId="5388" Score="0" Text="Why is a kickboxing class necessary?  Most sparring amounts to kickboxing in practice anyway (with a few, technical differences).  Does your Eagle Claw class not spar?" CreationDate="2015-08-12T14:12:26.953" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11540" PostId="5388" Score="0" Text="Depends on the kind of spar. Practicing forms involving a pre-stablished sequence of punches and kicks and other movements, we do it like once a week or so. Free-sparring we rarely do, and that's what I'd like to do more frequently, thus, kick boxing." CreationDate="2015-08-12T14:23:19.917" UserId="3092" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11541" PostId="5388" Score="0" Text="Ah, makes sense why you'd want to do kickboxing then." CreationDate="2015-08-12T14:28:30.363" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11542" PostId="5381" Score="0" Text="I think he may have been. My understanding is that Bruce's outlook towards martial arts as being one big box we can pull from, as opposed to strict stylism was pretty uncommon." CreationDate="2015-08-12T14:56:36.207" UserId="6083" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11543" PostId="5383" Score="3" Text="I guess part of the question I'd have is, what sort of answer are you looking for? A brief search on the web will find reference to fighting with two swords, *nitoken* or *nitojutsu*. Miyamato Musashi wrote of wielding one sword in each hand. To my understanding, this is generally taught with the off-hand having a smaller sword, about 2/3 the size. However, I'm sure that we can find a picture of someone fighting with a katana in each hand if we want. Are you looking for famous cases? Anyone? Does it have to be full-size in each hand?" CreationDate="2015-08-12T18:05:36.240" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11544" PostId="5388" Score="0" Text="@Marra Pre-established sequences should never be called sparring. Sparring means the absence of rote patterns and sequences." CreationDate="2015-08-12T18:32:51.163" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11545" PostId="5388" Score="0" Text="I understand. Though I've seen people calling that sparring, I do agree with you. Therefore, we very rarely spar on our kung fu classes and, when we do, we do it without any protectors, gloves or handwraps. So we can't go for stronger hits, or else we can injury ourselves or our partners. Kinda different from my first impression on the kick boxing class." CreationDate="2015-08-12T18:35:48.063" UserId="3092" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11546" PostId="3129" Score="0" Text="IN addition to the answers: focus on the **art** part of &quot;martial arts.&quot;  If you have having to do things on your own, you really have to bring your own art to them, rather than just doing the form sloppily.  You can't get away with sloppy with a teacher, but the teacher will respond and try to help you when they see it.  You are going to have to be your own teacher." CreationDate="2015-08-13T01:32:16.820" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11547" PostId="5388" Score="0" Text="Eagle Claw kung-fu makes use of &quot;2-person sets&quot; which are predetermined (choreographed) fight routines. And they can go on for a long period of time. The chin-na (joint locking) 2-person sets of Eagle Claw are famous and very cool. Karate often has just drills that they call &quot;single step sparring&quot;. They're also predetermined routines, but typically only involve one to three different movements. Yup, like it or not many martial arts use the word &quot;sparring&quot; to refer to these choreographed fight sequences." CreationDate="2015-08-13T04:58:07.363" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11549" PostId="5389" Score="1" Text="I thank you for your attention and care. Gonna think about all that this week in which I'll be travelling before I make up my mind. Guess I'll do a month or two for trial, that's probably for the best." CreationDate="2015-08-13T11:03:58.220" UserId="3092" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11550" PostId="5397" Score="0" Text="I thought Budo Taijutsu was a subset of the skills in &quot;Ninjutsu&quot;." CreationDate="2015-08-15T04:28:47.257" UserId="6083" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11551" PostId="5398" Score="9" Text="What martial art is this? Are sweeps part of your knife sparring? Do you bruise easily? Why are you training at three different schools? What kind of force is supposed to be used in training—full, no-contact, light or medium contact?" CreationDate="2015-08-15T12:53:45.230" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11552" PostId="5397" Score="0" Text="@MichaelYamnato You are most likely right, I probably just confused budo taijutsu as a separate art" CreationDate="2015-08-16T01:53:04.897" UserId="6117" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11553" PostId="5369" Score="0" Text="Welcome to MA.SE! Since this isn't a discussion site, we look for questions that have answers and, as Bankuei points out, (east) Asia is very very large and what you are asking seems very dojang specific even taking that into account." CreationDate="2015-08-16T05:56:52.637" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11554" PostId="5334" Score="0" Text="Having done similar to you, it does vary a lot by club. The one im with had me taking classes for 11 months of the year and then decided in the 12 month to close my dojo and merge it with a lesser attended class, and then cos i was no longer sensei of a full time class, didnt pay up.." CreationDate="2015-08-16T19:09:46.483" UserId="6124" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11555" PostId="5402" Score="0" Text="Is it a different club? As you get more used to it blocking will be more natural and finding time to get your own strikes in will happen. Ask your sensei for advice and get them to pick a partner who will help you work on it" CreationDate="2015-08-16T22:48:47.500" UserId="6124" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11557" PostId="5378" Score="0" Text="Makes sense, thanks.  I'd been wondering if the wrist-bone wouldn't be a lot less prone to injury than any kind of wide fist or ridge-hand strike." CreationDate="2015-08-17T00:58:21.657" UserId="6093" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11558" PostId="5402" Score="0" Text="What level of protective gear are you using? if it is adequate(gloves, footpads, body, head) there is no reason for you to refrain from hitting.&#xA;Other than that, it mostly just takes practice to become better with sparring," CreationDate="2015-08-17T01:32:17.220" UserId="6083" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11559" PostId="5378" Score="0" Text="You're usually hitting with either the end of the ulna (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulna) or radius (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radius_%28bone%29), both of which are much bigger bones than the carpal/metacarpals, and the force doesn't have to travel through any immediate joints.  The reason you see a lot of empty hand styles spend a lot of time knuckle toughening is actually to build the carpal/metacarpal bones...but bone remodeling takes years." CreationDate="2015-08-17T04:55:11.643" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11560" PostId="5325" Score="0" Text="Based on the Wikipedia article at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing_glove, it looks like Broughton's gloves in the 18th century provided the basic design that's been used ever since." CreationDate="2015-08-17T15:39:03.427" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11561" PostId="5383" Score="0" Text="Wad, can you clarify your question for us, assuming that you wish to continue asking it?" CreationDate="2015-08-17T15:42:56.497" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11562" PostId="5406" Score="1" Text="I have heard of epic sexism in all martial art styles. The school is what matters the most here." CreationDate="2015-08-17T18:20:24.003" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11563" PostId="5397" Score="0" Text="The other thing that makes it confusing is that one of the most popular ninjutsu-based styles is the Bujinkan system, so you may be thinking of that one (the other one that most people are familiar with is Stephen K. Hayes and his combination of mail-in instruction and books and his Shadows of Iga society)." CreationDate="2015-08-17T18:24:24.890" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11564" PostId="5397" Score="0" Text="How about Bakom or KFM (Keysi Fighting Method) ?" CreationDate="2015-08-18T02:30:45.980" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11565" PostId="5406" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion It's not the school who matter but the people (read my answer), Do you know in the same school you can have different activities ?" CreationDate="2015-08-18T08:14:04.940" UserId="6126" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11566" PostId="5406" Score="1" Text="I did not down vote your answer.  My comment referred to your advice of doing Aikido. A style does not protect you from sexism, but a good dojo will." CreationDate="2015-08-18T15:31:27.530" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11567" PostId="5416" Score="5" Text="Are all those styles being taught at a single school?  It seems... like a lot to be doing if you're new to this with only a year of getting into it." CreationDate="2015-08-19T05:23:53.390" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11568" PostId="5415" Score="4" Text="Frankly, I say see a doctor for this to ensure that you don't have any sort of lasting injury from this." CreationDate="2015-08-19T11:33:38.983" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11569" PostId="5422" Score="0" Text="If you poke around a bit, you should find resources online for solo Wing Chun drills such as http://www.londonwingchun.co.uk/5-best-exercises-improve-your-wing-chun. You might also consider investing in a wooden man training dummy." CreationDate="2015-08-19T12:46:04.060" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11570" PostId="5422" Score="0" Text="I'll leave it to the Wing Chun practitioners to directly answer your question, but I saw a wording which I think might be worth drawing attention to.  &quot;Equally practiced&quot; implies a desire to compare single-person drills with partner practicing. It is easy for that desire to cut short the things single-person drills are good at in order to make sure you don't fall behind on things partner practicing is better at. I have found that I have better luck in my practice simply trying to practice my *best*, whatever that happens to be in my current environment.  A small word shift, but I find it helps" CreationDate="2015-08-19T15:15:41.680" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11571" PostId="5383" Score="0" Text="The wording &quot;full-sized&quot; is redundant here.  You are probably thinking of a combination of a Katana (long sword) and a Wakazashi (short sword) versus a combination of two Katana." CreationDate="2015-08-20T15:26:00.020" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11572" PostId="5383" Score="0" Text="@TheWudangKid - Tell that to Sean." CreationDate="2015-08-20T15:27:24.490" UserId="6104" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11573" PostId="5383" Score="0" Text="@TheWudangKid:&#xA;He and I talked for a bit over chat. He really is curious as to whether there is a viable style involving two full-sized katanas. I don't believe that there is, although there are examples of people doing kata and there are, of course, fictional examples a la Leonardo." CreationDate="2015-08-20T19:46:30.033" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11574" PostId="4914" Score="1" Text="Practice makes permanent, not perfect. If you have practiced something and maybe through no fault of your own, got it wrong, or been applying strains on your body in a way you werent supposed to, even though it looked &quot;ok&quot; you could have given yourself issues." CreationDate="2015-08-21T09:58:19.943" UserId="6124" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11575" PostId="5383" Score="0" Text="@Sean Duggan Unless I grossly misunderstood, Musashi spoke of training with two Katana at once.  However, I have seen some commentators put emphasis on the &quot;training&quot; part there, saying that it helped develop coordination in training but was not the appropriate technique for competitions or genuine fights." CreationDate="2015-08-21T16:17:32.940" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11576" PostId="5383" Score="0" Text="@TimothyAWiseman: You can read a decent translation of The Book of Five Rings at https://www.uvm.edu/~asnider/IDAS_2011_CD/Teachers/Steve%20Llano's%20Materials/Strategy%20Books/Book%20of%20Five%20Rings%20-%20Musashi.pdf wherein he specifically refers to &quot;the long sword and the sword&quot; that are carried and how to fight with them." CreationDate="2015-08-21T18:24:25.727" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11577" PostId="5432" Score="4" Text="In such a situation, assuming that Gun Fu is not an option, I recommend a judicious retreat. 2-3 people is bad odds to start with. Add weapons and you would have to be lightyears ahead of them to come out unscathed." CreationDate="2015-08-21T18:45:18.523" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11578" PostId="5432" Score="5" Text="Give them the wallet. It is unlikely that 3 people will attack with knives with the sole purpose of killing you, more likely that they want your money. Give it to them." CreationDate="2015-08-21T22:49:20.800" UserId="6083" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11579" PostId="5432" Score="1" Text="Check out the Filipino martial arts." CreationDate="2015-08-22T03:46:37.713" UserId="238" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11580" PostId="5434" Score="1" Text="+1 for &quot;Run&quot;. There are very few ways to get out of a knife fight without at least a few nasty cuts, and this is your absolute best bet..." CreationDate="2015-08-22T14:49:51.270" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11582" PostId="5426" Score="0" Text="I practiced shotokan in my youth,  and achieved 1.kyu, before going off to boarding school. After a few years, I took up okinawa goju ryu,  which is very different,  not just in that it has completely different kata,  stances and techniques,  but also in that it is okinawan and not Japanese as shotokan is. Goju ryu is also much more concerned with traditional karate,  so it doesn't have as many factions as shotokan. I agree with @The Wudang Kid.  Try both and decide." CreationDate="2015-08-24T12:32:36.703" UserId="5848" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11583" PostId="5398" Score="2" Text="The OP's profile states &quot;I am a beginning martial artist...I train in Jeet Kune Do, Pencak Silat, Wing Chun, Southern Five Animal Kung Fu, Kali, Modern Arnis, Balintawak, Boxing, Viking Glima, Irish Stick, Catch as catch can wrestling, Esgrima Criolla, native american warrior arts from the Cherokee, Navajo, Inuit, Apache and Cheyenne.&quot; It also seems likely that the level of contact varies from, say, boxing to wing chun. (Also, see [the OP's other, related question](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/5416/347).) It sounds like hard sparring is not right for you at the moment, Bethany." CreationDate="2015-08-24T12:46:39.150" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11584" PostId="5412" Score="0" Text="Leg sweeps and joint locks are appropriate if the sparring rules allow for them." CreationDate="2015-08-24T12:47:19.517" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11585" PostId="5436" Score="1" Text="I'd advise that you expound a little bit about what the querent is likely to learn from the book." CreationDate="2015-08-24T12:58:34.743" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11586" PostId="5436" Score="0" Text="Well, it's not a book but a TV show and they spend some time dealing with knive attacks and how do they train some people who is going to become bodyguard against it. I guess it's way easier to see it, because some information will be lost if I have to explain it myself" CreationDate="2015-08-24T13:01:26.113" UserDisplayName="user6135" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11587" PostId="5436" Score="1" Text="{nods} Even mentioning in your answer that the episode in question (even better if you can link which episode it is) talks about how bodyguards are taught Krav Maga to defend against knife attacks is a step in the right direction." CreationDate="2015-08-24T13:04:07.033" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11588" PostId="5433" Score="0" Text="Tomiki's system of teaching Aikido is called Shodokan not Tomiki Aikido." CreationDate="2015-08-24T13:46:32.697" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11589" PostId="5433" Score="0" Text="That is a subject of debate. Tomiki called it &quot;Aikido&quot;; I believe all of the Menkyo's simply state &quot;Aikido&quot;. My teacher called it &quot;Tomiki Aikido&quot;, and I'm following his example." CreationDate="2015-08-24T14:00:35.277" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11590" PostId="5433" Score="0" Text="Tomiki called it [Shodokan Aikido](http://en.shodokanaikido.com/about-shodokan/). I am not sure which menkyo you refer to." CreationDate="2015-08-24T14:33:59.873" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11591" PostId="5415" Score="0" Text="Were you prescribed the diclofenac for your jaw? If not, why would you take it?" CreationDate="2015-08-24T14:43:29.583" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11592" PostId="5433" Score="0" Text="Then I fall back to &quot;I am using the term my teacher used&quot;. OTOH, I'm not sure that this distinction is important." CreationDate="2015-08-24T15:23:54.677" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11594" PostId="5437" Score="0" Text="Yeah!! I've watched that match. Royler was struggling with the leg trap. If am not mistaken, the banana split can be executed when the opponent is at the turtle position." CreationDate="2015-08-25T04:18:50.997" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11596" PostId="5433" Score="0" Text="[Duty calls](http://xkcd.com/386/). ^_~" CreationDate="2015-08-25T06:24:25.447" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11601" PostId="5412" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann; a valid point, but the OP suggested some of these techniques had been performed (on her, by men) out of frustration, rather than as part of a safe, controlled sparring session." CreationDate="2015-08-25T20:28:22.097" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11602" PostId="2912" Score="0" Text="Additionally, a kung fu stylist I'm friends with - who's been training for 40 years - says the closed fist represents war while the open hand represents peace. &quot;Peace over war,&quot; he says." CreationDate="2015-08-25T23:54:09.223" UserId="1502" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11603" PostId="4918" Score="0" Text="For the IBJJF this technique is called &quot;Submission techniques stretching legs apart&quot; and is allow for everyone up 12 Years old" CreationDate="2015-08-26T00:17:41.027" UserId="5818" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11604" PostId="5442" Score="2" Text="Quick recommendation: look up Bill &quot;Superfoot&quot; Wallace's videos on stretching for kicks.  He is well-known for his flexible, high kicks, even into advanced age." CreationDate="2015-08-26T14:23:36.983" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11605" PostId="5442" Score="1" Text="As a Karate-ka, I definitely find some cross training with Taekwondo practitioners to be beneficial. Less for the technique of individual kicks, more for the applications and uses of kicks. I would recommend sticking to the actual kicking technique taught in your style." CreationDate="2015-08-26T17:47:31.417" UserId="6083" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11607" PostId="5441" Score="0" Text="Thanks. I did expect a number of options however was interested in learning if there was a form that built on weakness from the ground up." CreationDate="2015-08-26T18:13:22.860" UserId="6153" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11608" PostId="5445" Score="1" Text="Thanks Matt. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu was something i was looking at as well as Krav Maga." CreationDate="2015-08-26T18:14:03.390" UserId="6153" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11609" PostId="4395" Score="1" Text="Related to Bankuei's answer, if you are in a fight where your life is on the line, you'll use everything you have available.  However, your concern for injury is valid in the context of training.  Most people will not need to use their martial arts in too many fights, but they will spend countless hours practicing, and practice can always lead to injury.  I would focus on systems where one does not need to practice such finger related techniques.  That should help take the issue out of the exotic and into the practical." CreationDate="2015-08-27T03:49:21.817" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11610" PostId="5441" Score="0" Text="There might be martial arts designed for some weakness or other - but if you don't love the art you do you wont stick at it.  Find one you enjoy and you will be amazed how much you can achieve." CreationDate="2015-08-27T08:39:42.390" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11611" PostId="5445" Score="1" Text="Whoah whoah whoah.... you're telling someone with knee and back problems to hop into BJJ? Specifically a strain of BJJ (10th Planet) that requires a ton of flexibility and can put serious strain on the knees? I'm sorry, but I would not recommend any form of grappling to someone rehabing a back injury, until they are feeling nearly back to normal. Neck/Disc issues are quite common among long-time BJJ participants, more so than strikers. And forcing a stiff knee into Mission Control position seems like a recipe for aggravating the injury further as well." CreationDate="2015-08-27T15:01:55.673" UserId="1076" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11612" PostId="5440" Score="0" Text="Is this question more about how to work around existing injuries, or how to rehabilitate?" CreationDate="2015-08-28T04:31:26.297" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11615" PostId="5450" Score="1" Text="Possible [link](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/192/82) although I suspect the emphasis here is different enough to merit its own question." CreationDate="2015-08-28T06:56:24.330" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11616" PostId="5373" Score="0" Text="But not if you're afraid of being dumped on your butt." CreationDate="2015-08-29T02:24:49.367" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11617" PostId="5452" Score="1" Text="Please try to narrow your inquiry and ask a specific question. Otherwise I think the responses you get will essentially reduce to &quot;your style is not like my style&quot;.  This question might be OK if everyone studied in your school, but that's not the case here." CreationDate="2015-08-29T11:46:14.110" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11618" PostId="5452" Score="3" Text="My comment is: Keep practicing and get correction from your instructors. Right now, you have not committed any of it to memory (as evidence by you hesitating to remember the next move). You lack lower body coordination with the upper body, and therefore you have poor balance and poor power. Your blocking surfaces often appear to be the padded sides of your forearm, and some would say that's fine, others will say use the bone instead (think of them like counter-strikes, not just blocks). Lastly, there's no snap in your fists. Basically, you're a novice. Good start. Now keep practicing it." CreationDate="2015-08-30T04:20:25.007" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11619" PostId="5453" Score="0" Text="I didn't know about the braces. Will deffinitely try them out! In searching the web I found the [following] (http://breakingmuscle.com/other-martial-arts/strength-training-for-judo-part-2-the-turner) cross training routine for judo. I definitely don't want to do just weight-lifting. Have you heard about any swimming routine with elements of weight-lifting/pull-ups/push-ups useful for bjj/judo?" CreationDate="2015-08-30T19:10:58.533" UserId="6162" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11620" PostId="5453" Score="1" Text="I haven't heard about a specific swimming routine, however, swimming is a generally great all around strength workout while being easy on the joints.  You may want to look into some routines for firefighters - they are also required to sling full bodyweight over their shoulders for a living, and they may have some useful exercises worth considering." CreationDate="2015-08-30T22:40:05.257" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11621" PostId="5458" Score="2" Text="Sounds fine to me. Why don't you go spar with it and see what you find out?" CreationDate="2015-08-31T07:13:36.187" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11622" PostId="5460" Score="0" Text="There is no generally optimal duration formula. You need to ask yourself, &quot;optimal *for what*?&quot; Be extremely specific—&quot;stamina&quot; is not specific enough. Also, this question will get better quality responses on the fitness stack exchange as long as it remains about intervals and not training for boxing." CreationDate="2015-08-31T17:36:43.497" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11623" PostId="5460" Score="0" Text="@Dave Liepmann - I tried to specify that I'd like to optimize my training to be able to compete in an amateur bout of three rounds of three minutes each. I'm not talking about actually winning, but being able to be competitive and go the distance. This means a combination of stamina, speed and power, as well as the psychological aspect." CreationDate="2015-08-31T18:30:29.153" UserId="4267" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11624" PostId="5460" Score="0" Text="There is no generally optimal duration that will improve all physical attributes, even if a 3x3min round structure is given. Different durations benefit different things differently." CreationDate="2015-08-31T18:32:19.033" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11625" PostId="5456" Score="0" Text="Would be useful to explain how you &quot;put my force to that push&quot;; what direction are you moving in (with the push, away from it)? How do you spot that a push is coming?" CreationDate="2015-09-01T08:17:17.873" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11628" PostId="5465" Score="5" Text="Martial arts is a journey. Maybe it is time for yours to continue?" CreationDate="2015-09-01T11:11:42.040" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11629" PostId="5465" Score="2" Text="Ah, yes, the sunk-cost fallacy.  I think we need to know what your position is.  If you are an instructor, why not teach somewhere else (YMCA)?  If you are a student, why not join another club, preferably a smaller one?  Or why not discuss your problem with the head instructor?  If you honestly feel he/she would not listen or it would be non-productive, leave." CreationDate="2015-09-01T12:11:38.847" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11630" PostId="5452" Score="2" Text="It's very unproductive to ask for form correction on the internets.  An instructor can do for you in 10 minutes what we would spend hours trying to accomplish and still fail at." CreationDate="2015-09-01T12:17:24.943" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11632" PostId="5462" Score="0" Text="This is related to another question that asked about why kung-fu in general is not found in MMA. I answered that here:&#xA;&#xA;http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/4806/are-there-any-effective-kung-fu-fighters-in-mma/4807#4807" CreationDate="2015-09-01T18:11:32.900" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11633" PostId="5462" Score="0" Text="And I also wrote up a little blurb about Wing Chun here, which you might be interested in:&#xA;&#xA;http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/2802/defence-against-wing-chun/2809#2809" CreationDate="2015-09-01T18:12:21.637" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11640" PostId="5471" Score="0" Text="&quot;hard blows to the diaphragm, xiphoid process, and floating ribs can cause enough respiratory distress that a loss of consciousness is a possibility&quot; — could you point to an example? I've never seen or heard of this in years of watching people take very, very hard hits to those areas. Liver punch knock*downs* is the closest I've seen." CreationDate="2015-09-03T05:26:28.500" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11641" PostId="5473" Score="3" Text="Personally I'm inclined to close this question as being too broad, primarily opinion based and also asking for general medical advice (from strangers on the internet....). However I'll let the community tend to that. The absolute first thing you must do before asking any questions about this problem is see a specialist/professional. Until you have solid facts and medical opinion all we can do is speculate and offer general common sense advice." CreationDate="2015-09-03T08:30:50.390" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11642" PostId="5473" Score="6" Text="Make sure you're going to a doctor that specializes in sports medicine. You need a practitioner whose goal is the same as yours: not to get to a pain-free state, but to get to your previous active level of capability." CreationDate="2015-09-03T08:36:05.950" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11643" PostId="5465" Score="0" Text="I left Taekwondo entirely because of politics. The year before I left, I took 5th place at the world championships and one of my students became world champion. Sometimes you can get pushed too far and the only option left is nuclear." CreationDate="2015-09-03T11:09:26.177" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11645" PostId="5471" Score="0" Text="Your experience may differ, but I've seen, delivered, and received enough blows to these regions to have experienced (and witnessed) this outcome.  In most of those accounts the recipient found themselves struggling to catch a breath, and presumably that is from pain/spasms/damage in the thoracic diaphragm. In the most extreme cases this caused a momentary loss of consciousness. I realize that anecdotes don't carry much weight (and they really shouldn't), but I am fairly certain their is supportive evidence for this phenomenon and it may be related to traumatic asphyxia." CreationDate="2015-09-03T14:06:03.453" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11646" PostId="5471" Score="0" Text="Nobody's disputing the pain/muscle spasms/shortness of breath from body shots. What's in dispute is the loss of consciousness, which...I'm not sure I've ever seen happen, and if it did, it's such a low-probability event that relying on it in any way is a flawed strategy." CreationDate="2015-09-03T14:19:41.067" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11647" PostId="5471" Score="0" Text="Trying to knock someone out at all is a flawed strategy.  People don't get readily knocked unconscious in real-life, and when they do it is usually very traumatic.  I have seen a loss of consciousness happen from repeated blows to the diaphragm region on more than one occasion, and nearly passed out from that circumstance myself.  I am also certain my experience isn't much of a statistical outlier." CreationDate="2015-09-03T14:37:10.857" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11648" PostId="5465" Score="0" Text="It might help if you outlined what your position in the school actually is. Are you an instructor? Student only? Both? Why is it your position to suggest these things?" CreationDate="2015-09-04T16:31:39.737" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11649" PostId="4843" Score="0" Text="two of the guys in my gym who do lot of squats got groin muscle pulls while sparring" CreationDate="2015-09-06T02:10:21.727" UserId="259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11650" PostId="2020" Score="0" Text="My two boys age 9 and 14 are going for their black belts this Xmas. They don't want to go further in their jujitsu. What can else can they do after this?" CreationDate="2015-09-06T13:48:13.530" UserDisplayName="user6188" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11651" PostId="2020" Score="1" Text="@Saiqa Welcome to the site. You need to post this as a new question rather than as an answer on an existing question. If you do ask a new question, this is unanswerable in its current format. For more guidance see [*How to ask*](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help/asking)" CreationDate="2015-09-07T01:38:53.657" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11652" PostId="5478" Score="6" Text="Is your dojo called the Korba-Kai?..." CreationDate="2015-09-07T07:48:19.593" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11653" PostId="5480" Score="3" Text="This is the **only** advise that is sensible to give..." CreationDate="2015-09-07T07:48:58.747" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11654" PostId="5478" Score="2" Text="Since you mention &quot;real self defense&quot;, perhaps consider a different martial art altogether, one more geared directly at real-world self-defense techniques, such as Krav Maga?" CreationDate="2015-09-07T09:10:06.450" UserId="6191" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11655" PostId="5478" Score="0" Text="I left WC class for a very similar reason. The teacher never showed me the basics and on the second lesson punched me on the jaw. No blood, but still too violent for me." CreationDate="2015-09-07T10:34:03.590" UserId="4324" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11656" PostId="5478" Score="6" Text="This is your fourth post involving abuse in the dozen styles you're practicing. I think you might want to consider moving..." CreationDate="2015-09-07T20:26:56.663" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11657" PostId="45" Score="0" Text="+1 for not tipping the head backwards. I have been trained by the St. John Ambulance this way too." CreationDate="2015-09-08T12:38:32.693" UserId="1797" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11658" PostId="5485" Score="4" Text="I would like to think the term &quot;Master&quot; is not a term of possession of a person or student (e.g. Master and Slave), but a Master of the art." CreationDate="2015-09-09T01:59:48.860" UserId="1797" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11659" PostId="1690" Score="0" Text="This might hurt you in the long term. When I train like this I usually have some ointment applied on the knuckles later." CreationDate="2015-09-09T02:05:27.240" UserId="1797" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11660" PostId="5484" Score="4" Text="I always viewed the title of grandmaster as an ego boost which does not fit well at all within [守破離 (shuhari)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shuhari). But that is a little short for an answer... ;)" CreationDate="2015-09-09T06:40:16.070" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11661" PostId="5485" Score="1" Text="@paperclip Then they aren't *my* master. And master-of-the-art terminology gets misused and abused and misunderstood, too. If they've mastered judo (for example) then say that, recognize their high-dan rank, and call them &quot;Miss Fukuda&quot; or &quot;Mister Kano&quot;. Ain't no need to call someone &quot;master&quot; unless you're starting a cult." CreationDate="2015-09-09T07:07:33.070" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11662" PostId="5489" Score="0" Text="Do you mean ground battle as in on foot (as opposed to horseback), or as in grappling?" CreationDate="2015-09-09T11:52:06.780" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11663" PostId="5489" Score="1" Text="Excuse my bad english I meant huge battle between two armies, a samurai surrounded by many ennemies could grab a additional sword from a fallen foe to defend himself" CreationDate="2015-09-09T12:31:13.013" UserId="6203" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11664" PostId="5485" Score="3" Text="While I agree that &quot;master-of-the-art&quot; terminology is often misused and abused, it remains in common usage, often with very precisely defined criteria, in many fields.  A chess master is defined by an elo rating, etc." CreationDate="2015-09-09T17:08:39.270" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11666" PostId="5490" Score="2" Text="&quot;I do not think it would ever be wrong to call your sensei/coach/instructor 'master'&quot; — a lot of teachers would take being called &quot;master&quot; as an extremely weird assumption. And quite rightly. The terminology has a lot of undesirable cultural baggage." CreationDate="2015-09-10T12:12:25.713" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11667" PostId="5490" Score="1" Text="@DaveLiepmann You make a good point.  I meant in terms of word definitions and grammar, not that it would always be socially correct." CreationDate="2015-09-10T12:30:26.757" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11668" PostId="5492" Score="1" Text="Yes but you need to master the rules before you can break them. In soft arts you need to master soft, before you can start using hard. I suspect I should be easily be able to over-balance the majority of his students simply because it sounds like he isn't teaching sensitivity and looseness correctly. Also, you shouldn't see blood if you are hitting correctly." CreationDate="2015-09-11T03:42:55.273" UserId="6192" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11669" PostId="5478" Score="0" Text="I am very surprised that you saw blood if they are being taught correctly. Like all &quot;soft&quot; arts, WC aims to attack weak spots like internal organs, eye gauging, soft tissue. If it was particularly gruesome, it should be massive debilitating bruising, or internal organ damage." CreationDate="2015-09-11T03:49:44.397" UserId="6192" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11671" PostId="5494" Score="0" Text="I added my best guess on the &quot;controversy&quot; given that's the first place I've seen it listed as such." CreationDate="2015-09-12T15:45:59.473" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11672" PostId="5494" Score="0" Text="Your answer doesn't nail it like Dave Liepmann's answer does. The controversy stems from within BJJ training. Some emphasize no-gi training because it's seen as more &quot;realistic&quot;, since you probably won't be wearing your gi with you everywhere, and you can't expect your opponents in a street fight to be wearing gi. So the idea was to train without a gi, because that's how you'll use that art. But the Gracie family has always said that gi training is better and allows you to perform in no-gi better. The reason they give is that gi training hammers in the technical aspects of the art better. FYI." CreationDate="2015-09-14T02:45:46.047" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11673" PostId="5494" Score="1" Text="@SteveWeigand: Well, he definitely gets an up-vote from me for his answer. :)" CreationDate="2015-09-14T02:47:01.337" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11674" PostId="5498" Score="0" Text="The omopalata also relies primarily on the attacker's legs to attack the opponent's shoulder." CreationDate="2015-09-15T18:52:13.703" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11675" PostId="5499" Score="0" Text="Thats a good start I guess. I was looking for something where they do that from standing position. Initiate your attack with a jump/slide and use your legs to put your opponent's trunk/leg in a scissors lock. You can see some of that in http://playit.pk/watch?v=RSnP9z99I9M and also http://playit.pk/watch?v=2Qrkk2JTU70" CreationDate="2015-09-16T05:08:01.133" UserId="6221" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11676" PostId="5500" Score="1" Text="This is a great platitude, but it doesn't really answer the question. &quot;Practice over and over&quot; doesn't really outline any exercises the the OP requested." CreationDate="2015-09-16T15:52:35.103" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11677" PostId="5488" Score="0" Text="Master as a 7th or 8th degree is very organization dependent. ITF Master is 7th, WTF Master is 4th, ATA Master Instructor is 6th (And the master title is independent of rank, you have to *be* a 6th to be eligible, but not all 6th degrees are awarded the title Master Instructor)." CreationDate="2015-09-16T15:56:10.863" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11678" PostId="2559" Score="0" Text="@USFBS Good point! Yes, inertia acts to oppose the force in the opposite direction. So there is that. But then there's still this downward force caused by gravity which can cause you to train the sword sub-optimally, and I believe may cause problems with form if you just keep loading up the weight on the pole-arm like I mentioned. The pulley system is a big improvement over that kind of resistance training. And weight lifting exercises that work your core muscles (dead lift, squat, plank, etc.) and the forearms (pull-ups, dips, etc.) are going to stabilize everything to make your form better." CreationDate="2015-09-16T16:36:22.727" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11679" PostId="5499" Score="0" Text="@YoustayIgo You might want to look into kani basami: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1EFPB5IWqA" CreationDate="2015-09-16T17:08:21.213" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11680" PostId="5499" Score="0" Text="Yeah, Kani basami is one of several scissors kicks that are in Harimau, by the way. Harimau has a bunch of sneaky leg things that they do. They also have those flying arm-bars and things. Not sure about a flying triangle choke, but they do have the triangle choke, the reverse triangle, and other triangle-like chokes using the legs. It does a lot with the legs. Mind you, is all of it practical? Well, maybe, maybe not. Take some of it and try it out in MMA and see." CreationDate="2015-09-16T17:48:55.293" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11681" PostId="5500" Score="0" Text="Agreed with JohnP. You don't garner a downvote from me or a flag, but neither do I feel this deserves an upvote." CreationDate="2015-09-16T18:44:02.217" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11682" PostId="5504" Score="0" Text="Why would you ask strangers on the Internet instead of your dentist?..." CreationDate="2015-09-18T08:48:49.697" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11683" PostId="5506" Score="2" Text="Better than what?" CreationDate="2015-09-18T11:17:04.047" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11684" PostId="5506" Score="0" Text="or seperately. ie train wrestling with wrestlers. The point of the question is if you had a choice of opponents which would be better for your wrestling." CreationDate="2015-09-18T19:16:18.300" UserId="6173" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11685" PostId="5506" Score="2" Text="For what? For being a good wrestler, for fighting, for grappling? Are you a novice, experienced, or elite? You need to narrow this down to a specific question regarding a problem you actually face." CreationDate="2015-09-18T21:42:03.623" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11686" PostId="5507" Score="0" Text="your point on the different opinions on positions was what I was getting at. In training if you and your opponent agree on what are good positions then you fall into patterns. You should be ready for your opponent to do something unexpected and adapt by going for other positions. Which would be a valuable skill when it comes to a pure wrestling match. how do you create a rule set to do that?? that's a difficult question." CreationDate="2015-09-19T21:02:02.813" UserId="6173" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11687" PostId="5504" Score="0" Text="I would say fit it how you plan to be fighting." CreationDate="2015-09-21T17:24:36.780" UserId="6083" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11688" PostId="5512" Score="0" Text="yup, i'm sure that's why you keep getting beaten by people who actually train to fight. the rules stopped you. what a great and versatile excuse." CreationDate="2015-09-21T18:42:29.080" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11689" PostId="5515" Score="0" Text="Mmm...not really on the academic comparison. There are *tons* of professors in various fields with PhD certs. Closer to the Dean of a college, maybe?" CreationDate="2015-09-22T20:51:23.523" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11690" PostId="5503" Score="0" Text="@MikeOConnor Please note that you've used a different account to edit your original answer. I think it would be best if you ask a moderator to merge both accounts." CreationDate="2015-09-23T04:49:22.987" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11691" PostId="5512" Score="1" Text="Your reply doesn't answer the original question; you haven't listed any effective Kung Fu fighters in MMA." CreationDate="2015-09-23T15:17:28.963" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11692" PostId="5518" Score="2" Text="This is very unfocused. Could you remove all the bits that do not answer the question?" CreationDate="2015-09-24T07:13:43.440" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11695" PostId="5525" Score="0" Text="Are you concerned about losing balance, or about accidentally hitting another player?" CreationDate="2015-09-25T19:32:20.803" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11696" PostId="5525" Score="0" Text="Yes. The balance is what I'm worried about in my personal training. Hitting another player is what I am eventually going to be worried about in the *roda*." CreationDate="2015-09-25T20:04:04.933" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11697" PostId="5527" Score="0" Text=":) The biggest issue with classes is that there are only two days there are classes in town. One intersects with a prior commitment. The other, I'm hoping to be able to make occasionally. Thank you for your feedback." CreationDate="2015-09-25T23:23:29.913" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11698" PostId="5514" Score="2" Text="It is not true in general that sparring safely involves &quot;just mimicing actual moves with little or no force behind them.&quot; The degree of contact expected from sparring varies considerably from martial art to martial art, school to school, and instructor to instructor, and can range from pretending/pantomiming, all the way to full contact." CreationDate="2015-09-26T00:25:00.880" UserId="698" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11699" PostId="5527" Score="0" Text="Yeah, I wasn't too sure what your particular situation was, but I had to mention that part about priorities, because it comes up so often in martial arts and in life in general. Anyway, make some time during each day to train your flexibility, and it will come back. It doesn't have to be a big deal, just 10 minutes here and there would be good. And that leaves the muscles, which you can get back a number of ways. Keep at it." CreationDate="2015-09-26T02:17:03.790" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11701" PostId="5488" Score="0" Text="Note that I spelt Taekwon-do as such because I was referring to ITF. WTF members usually spell it as Taekwondo.&#xA;&#xA;I have no idea about WTF because I come from the ITF background. Thanks for your input on WTF!" CreationDate="2015-09-29T07:12:57.990" UserId="1797" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11702" PostId="5492" Score="0" Text="The blood the op is talking about is from heavy sparring. Blood from mouth, nose, etc" CreationDate="2015-09-29T15:07:49.447" UserId="6206" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11703" PostId="5492" Score="1" Text="I realise that. My point is to do with the soft/hard strike. In the years I've done WC, the only blood I've seen is from my own knuckles rubbing on sand bags. But boy have I seen some bruising. The point, we don't normally aim for those places. I would only go for the nose with a gauge. I'd rather strike the chin or the throat than the mouth. But more to the point, I'd be going for the kidneys, ribs, locking the elbow and hyper extending it. Plenty of damage without any blood." CreationDate="2015-09-29T15:14:05.447" UserId="6192" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11704" PostId="5492" Score="0" Text="Ah OK. Gotcha (:" CreationDate="2015-09-29T15:16:24.613" UserId="6206" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11705" PostId="5534" Score="0" Text="Wow, that frequency of concussions in boxing is huge; a boxing rate of man-minutes comparable to rugby player-games indicates to me the boxing dangers are more than an order of magnitude larger. Looks like the academies are doing a decent job with a sport that is really dangerous." CreationDate="2015-09-30T11:47:21.217" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11706" PostId="5534" Score="4" Text="@mattm - I wonder whether or not there is observer bias in the boxing data. Given that a fighter has to get checked by a medical doctor both before and after a fight (amateur or pro), the rate of unreported concussions is probably a lot lower than in team sports like rugby and hockey where medical checks don't happen (for example see http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/02/sports/hockey/02concussions.html?_r=0)." CreationDate="2015-09-30T12:30:58.333" UserId="4267" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11707" PostId="1631" Score="0" Text="&quot;Get warm until about 12&quot;? 12 what?" CreationDate="2015-09-30T12:59:49.717" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11715" PostId="5535" Score="1" Text="I should point out that critics of this theory show from Physics that the downward force can not contribute to the forward force. I would say that's too simplistic, since this is a human being, not a point force model. In a human being, the dropping motion can be translated into a wave through the body, as it travels to the legs. Then it bounces off of the ground and pushes upwards through the legs, where the force is then channeled out the arms. I don't know if this increases the actual force of the strike in a significant way than the non-sinusoidal way of striking does, however." CreationDate="2015-09-30T20:17:59.067" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11716" PostId="5538" Score="5" Text="And indeed the formula for power on that website is wrong - it is an equation for *energy*, not *power* - which doesn't exactly inspire scientific confidence." CreationDate="2015-09-30T21:03:43.057" UserId="1553" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11718" PostId="5540" Score="1" Text="Welcome to the site. While I *really like* your question and want to know the answer(s) myself, I suspect it might not a good fit for here. Firstly, it cannot really be answered here as it would take way too long. Secondly, it asks for references which tend to be just a long list of things which in turn is frowned on.  Lastly, it is all about physiognomy and not really related to martial arts at all: would a physiotherapist or medical sport doctor be a better source of knowledge there? However, I am not voting to close because I think it could be a good question if narrowed down a little." CreationDate="2015-10-01T06:41:49.677" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11719" PostId="5540" Score="0" Text="In my experience, resource questions are usually frowned on but can occasionally be accepted and useful if framed correctly. It was my hope to do this. On the third point, in a sense, you are correct. This question explicitly states that all the elements of strategy and practical application are not of interest and therefore the text I am looking for isn't really about that aspect of martial arts. HOWEVER, understanding biomechanics can prove extremely useful for experts in any sport. Slight adjustments in technique depend on understanding these biomechanical principles. Thus, I would think..." CreationDate="2015-10-01T07:33:44.963" UserId="6122" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11721" PostId="5540" Score="0" Text="...a good answer to this question would provide a valuable long-term reference point for future martial artists who similarly are looking for these kinds of details. Regarding point 1, what makes you think answers would be long? How can you tell?" CreationDate="2015-10-01T07:36:29.317" UserId="6122" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11722" PostId="5540" Score="0" Text="No no I got that lol" CreationDate="2015-10-01T07:36:47.607" UserId="6122" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11723" PostId="5540" Score="0" Text="But if there is anything I can do to make it site friendly here, I'd be happy to do so" CreationDate="2015-10-01T07:37:05.177" UserId="6122" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11724" PostId="5540" Score="0" Text="Were there such a seminal text on biomechanics within martial arts, then the best answer would be a link to $shop. However, if not, how would you judge two different books and a paper if they were three answers?  Which one would be &quot;best&quot;? What if one focuses on Aikido but the other on Capoeira?  Of course, you could do a synthesis of those and thus earn you the best answer ever but at this point you might as well publish that as a paper/book." CreationDate="2015-10-01T07:42:27.867" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11725" PostId="5512" Score="0" Text="This answer's atrocious formatting obscured the totally absurd mount escape it proposes: just punch them in the neck! Never mind that their neck is out of reach if they posture up, and a punch from under mount is about as strong as a stiff breeze." CreationDate="2015-10-01T10:03:51.587" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11726" PostId="5535" Score="4" Text="Well I think what would make sense would be for someone to study punch power with and without sinusoidal motion. Because otherwise just looking at force vectors from a Physics standpoint isn't really going to get anyone anywhere (as I mentioned before, humans are not accurately portrayed by point force models). But the challenge of this sort of experiment is making sure the people being studied are really trying to give it their all in each case. And with TKD, maybe they don't really know how to punch well without the sine wave motion. Experimental methodology may be inadequate." CreationDate="2015-10-01T10:33:52.593" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11727" PostId="5535" Score="1" Text="@SteveWeigand: my branch of TKD split off before WTF/ITF had split, decades before sine wave, but from occasional training I've done with ITF folks and my own reading, I gather the movement involves a lowering of the body then an upward bounce and the punch or block being timed with the descent, so it's not a plyometric upward bounce into the strike as you describe.  Personally, I see two reasons for sine wave: 1) it's unarguably not karate, so Choi finally could argue he'd created something new and distinct, 2) with Shotokan hip mechanics long lost, almost anything was an improvement." CreationDate="2015-10-01T13:15:32.047" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11728" PostId="5535" Score="0" Text="For reference for how the &quot;sine wave&quot; is applied to TKD, there is an existing question: http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/1772/5961" CreationDate="2015-10-01T13:35:29.303" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11729" PostId="5535" Score="0" Text="[What is the “sine wave” substyle of ITF taekwondo and how did it originate?](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/1772/82)" CreationDate="2015-10-01T14:15:12.683" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11730" PostId="5535" Score="1" Text="@TonyD Yes, that's the non-politically correct version. Hehe. Thing is, I do see the possibility for the sine wave motion to work out for them, but they need some understanding of internal mechanics for that to happen. And you get that from studying Tai Chi and other internal arts. What I'm referring to is the &quot;bounce jing&quot; and &quot;p'eng jing&quot;. The problem is that when they use the sine wave motion, they lose the connection with the ground and sort of &quot;float&quot; up high until they come down. Maybe that's better for TKD, since it involves so much kicking. But defensively it's not so good I think." CreationDate="2015-10-01T19:33:13.643" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11731" PostId="5541" Score="1" Text="Board breaking isn't a proper, objective measurement of power, though. So we'd need impact force measurements from some standard measurement device. (There are many out there, so you just need to select one and prepare a study.)... And that was a big caveat I mentioned. When you teach people how to punch both ways, you have to ask them to actually get good at both and really try to hit as hard as they can. You can gather many people together and look at averages. You can also look at people who just learned one and not the other. From these you might be able to glean something useful. Tricky." CreationDate="2015-10-01T19:36:37.843" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11732" PostId="5543" Score="0" Text="Have you actually found lifting weights to be a problem in your own practice, or is this just something you've been told? I and others I know have found that proper weight lifting practice has helped a lot in achieving proper relaxed techniques." CreationDate="2015-10-02T19:18:11.977" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11733" PostId="5543" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann In my internal school, I have been told weightlifting is not necessary. This is, however, from the generation with basically unlimited training time to become strong. In my experience, weightlifting is a fast way to become strong, but the problem is that students learn to use a hammer (weightlifting), then treat all other problems as nails. I will try to edit to make the idea clearer." CreationDate="2015-10-03T12:19:12.177" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11735" PostId="5546" Score="0" Text="This'd doesn't answer my question at all." CreationDate="2015-10-04T22:32:40.720" UserId="57" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11736" PostId="5540" Score="2" Text="Can you clarify what you are looking for? You want a physics-based analysis of force generation based on anatomy?  And if that doesn't exist you want a book that does not tell you how to do things, but does what?" CreationDate="2015-10-05T03:42:32.597" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11737" PostId="5540" Score="0" Text="I want something that attempts to describe why a particular combination of positions or motions yield a powerful results. A procedure that tells me how to perform a move or particular maneuver doesn't give me any information as to what components of that particular maneuver make it powerful in terms of the power. Yes this is physics. But I don't necessarily need equations. I need something that goes beyond mere anatomy or mere description of procedure and actually attempts to break down either qualitatively or quantitatively how the maneuvers described work" CreationDate="2015-10-05T04:17:49.830" UserId="6122" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11738" PostId="5540" Score="0" Text="I'd prefer something qualitative" CreationDate="2015-10-05T04:18:54.677" UserId="6122" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11739" PostId="5546" Score="0" Text="The answer is based on personal opinion and experience and makes some good points, but doesn't actually respond to the specific question." CreationDate="2015-10-05T09:32:57.280" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11740" PostId="5549" Score="0" Text="Woof... $100+ for the current editions. I'm guessing that this is the *Building the Gymnastic Body* book of martial arts..." CreationDate="2015-10-05T19:32:50.053" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11741" PostId="5549" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan I bought this from Amazon some years ago, and it was inexpensive then. It looks like you can still find used copies on Amazon at a reasonable price. I'm not familiar with books on gymnastics, so I am not sure what to say about your analogy." CreationDate="2015-10-05T21:23:49.853" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11742" PostId="5549" Score="0" Text=":) *Building the Gymnastic Body* is probably one of the best books for static strength exercises, but it had a limited release, so copies go for $100 or more." CreationDate="2015-10-06T01:41:58.867" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11746" PostId="5546" Score="0" Text="Personal experience could prove invaluable to the answer, but not the one provided here. Based on some of your comments, it seems you had some contact with the WTF at some point. Can you tell us if some of their techniques are different? If so, how? Are the katas the same? Do the competitive rules differ?" CreationDate="2015-10-06T20:58:27.537" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11748" PostId="5540" Score="0" Text="I haven't seen anyone do a full thing for martial arts specifically (there is, of course, the cheesy tv shows where they measure the pounds of pressure of impact for particular strikes, however, that misses a lot of elements as well).   I spent about 800+ hours in kinesiology and sports medicine study, and that gave me a lot towards understanding the biomechanics in a lot of movements.  However, that's not a short, easy resource by any means." CreationDate="2015-10-07T02:10:55.680" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11749" PostId="998" Score="0" Text="very tempted to paraphrase this question" CreationDate="2015-10-11T07:17:51.877" UserId="5746" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11750" PostId="5556" Score="0" Text="Thanks and upvote for the helpful answer. I had thought about krav maga (after watching the 1st season of Fight Quest www.imdb.com/title/tt0965364/). But then I dropped the idea because it requires a **lot** of multi-person routines and it is really not a form of martial arts but more like a _do whatever looks promising_ thing. I thought about Muay Thai, but I don't know if it can be successfully mastered alone without a senior's guidance." CreationDate="2015-10-11T08:55:32.040" UserId="6221" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11752" PostId="5557" Score="0" Text="Welcome to stackexchange and thanks for the very detailed and informative answer. I am good with self learning and I have trained alone in the past with some Chinese arts (not full martial arts but useful methods which are helpful in combat). Surprisingly, they are very effective in combat, despite being dubbed useless in street fight by a lot of people. Personally I was more inclined towards the kungfu Eagle form and Muay Thai but finding that it is impossible to master even the basics of kungfu without the guidance of a master, I dropped the idea. I'd look into the form you have suggested." CreationDate="2015-10-11T12:49:55.730" UserId="6221" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11753" PostId="5558" Score="0" Text="who would start a martial art - at which point in human evolution did it come about - at which point did human/human interaction necessatate martial arts" CreationDate="2015-10-11T22:36:28.153" UserId="5746" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11754" PostId="5555" Score="0" Text="See also http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/2108/how-can-one-practice-well-alone and http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/3129/solo-martial-art-learning" CreationDate="2015-10-12T02:26:15.100" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11755" PostId="5559" Score="0" Text="There is no _skill_ to encountered here in an opponent. There is just brute force ... and lots of it. No instructor either in my area (except for some traditional sword fighting forms which doesn't apply to my case). I trained on a sandbag for nearly a year and it was very helpful. The problem is, I don't know how to _harden_ my body so I don't go down after taking a few hammer-like punches (or how to avoid having them shower on me)." CreationDate="2015-10-12T05:50:17.830" UserId="6221" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11756" PostId="5555" Score="0" Text="Yes see also my answers here: http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/4315/learning-grappling-without-an-instructor/4317#4317 and http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/2857/which-is-the-best-way-for-learning-wing-chun/2859#2859 and http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/4528/training-martial-arts-in-china/4535#4535" CreationDate="2015-10-12T07:05:59.417" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11757" PostId="5555" Score="0" Text="I don't have wrestling schools/team in my area. Wing Chun training is virtually impossible for me due to lack of any instructor at all. And I don't live in China. I'm **not** concerned with the school or form, I'm more concerned with _how to train_ and _what to train in_." CreationDate="2015-10-12T07:11:42.640" UserId="6221" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11758" PostId="5555" Score="3" Text="I'd encourage people to close this question as it is incredibly broad and promotes extended discussion and/or guessing rather than answers. Youstay: please break this down into specific questions - as you mention in a comment *how* to train and *what* to train are two different things. You must be aware that the SE network is Q&amp;A based and avoids the extended discussion that you would find on a regular forum." CreationDate="2015-10-12T09:10:28.383" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11759" PostId="5555" Score="1" Text="Several related or duplicate questions have also been linked, you need to show how your question is different to those - having it specific to your body type or location isn't really sufficient. Your problem description is so general that the answer I would give is [*&quot;Don't be there Daniel-san&quot;*](https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_Karate_Kid)" CreationDate="2015-10-12T09:15:26.820" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11760" PostId="5555" Score="0" Text="A sentence has been added in the start of the last paragraph for clarity sake. The question is about **what** to train, not _how_." CreationDate="2015-10-12T13:08:15.963" UserId="6221" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11761" PostId="5555" Score="1" Text="@YoustayIgo Note that my links above were examples for 3 different martial arts. I'm not saying you should do one of those martial arts. The links provide a general approach for how to learn a martial art when you have no schools nearby. As for which martial art to train or what techniques you should work on, pretty much anything goes so long as you follow my general guidelines. If you're working in solo and don't expect to find any partners, then you should focus on martial arts that provide a lot of solo training (kung-fu, karate, taichi, etc.)." CreationDate="2015-10-12T16:33:14.213" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11762" PostId="5559" Score="0" Text="Go to a boxing or a kickboxing gym and save yourself from the MA BS." CreationDate="2015-10-12T18:31:31.990" UserId="1978" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11763" PostId="5555" Score="0" Text="Self-defense is always a tricky question, there is no course out there which will magically turn yourself to the next Steven Seagal or Van Damme. This is utter bullocks. The best for you is to avoid living in fantasies that aren't possible. Martial arts is great, but put your aims realistic." CreationDate="2015-10-12T18:36:51.623" UserId="1978" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11765" PostId="5562" Score="1" Text="The canonical answer is to do fundamental strength, conditioning, and mobility, as described [here](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/1756/347). You say you want the highest physical potential. That means forget purely calisthenic training and do some combination of calisthenics, powerlifting, Oly lifting, track, and gymnastics. See also [this answer](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/5320/347). There's also [an example  of tailoring S&amp;C to prepare for a specific martial art in the absence of that art](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/2875/347)." CreationDate="2015-10-13T06:55:28.113" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11766" PostId="2204" Score="1" Text="Run Forrest, run!!!" CreationDate="2015-10-13T12:14:44.547" UserId="4367" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11767" PostId="5555" Score="0" Text="@marko: Did I ask for tips that would enable me to win the next MMA with home training? No I did not. Did I say I want to defeat karate or kickboxing black belts with my home training? No I said I have **untrained** but much stronger opponents. Did I say that I am going to go on a rampage and fight 10 armed guys alone on the streets? No I did not. How exactly did you find my question fancyful or impractical?" CreationDate="2015-10-13T15:12:59.523" UserId="6221" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11768" PostId="5561" Score="0" Text="That's what I already do. Power and technique are two different things, however. I am looking for _which_ technique to follow. I am agile and have quick nerves, but my strength isn't at par with what I _might_ come face to face, on the streets, trying to snatch my cellphone or beating me up just because our team beat them in a soccer match. Life sucks!" CreationDate="2015-10-13T15:15:30.200" UserId="6221" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11769" PostId="5561" Score="2" Text="Maybe you should strength train also, if your very small then it's very difficult even with good technique. Make yourself strong and train maybe martial arts one day (punching and kicking) and do some heavy lifting the other day. It's not rocket science actually, needs some effort though. Good luck!" CreationDate="2015-10-13T16:39:35.440" UserId="1978" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11770" PostId="5561" Score="0" Text="And the best defense for not get beaten is to avoid your bullies." CreationDate="2015-10-13T16:41:55.757" UserId="1978" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11771" PostId="5553" Score="3" Text="There is no meaningful way to answer who did the first kick. Fighting predates any written record." CreationDate="2015-10-13T16:59:03.657" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11772" PostId="5562" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann thank you! I should've looked for that question previously, but I'm glad you answered anyways. This is exactly what I was looking for." CreationDate="2015-10-14T02:36:16.643" UserId="6125" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11773" PostId="5562" Score="0" Text="Excellent! Glad to hear it. Your situation is fairly common and I'm happy to point you to a productive path. Cheers." CreationDate="2015-10-14T05:21:38.040" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11775" PostId="5564" Score="4" Text="Did you read the  [wikipedia page on Krav Maga](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krav_Maga) or the [a history](http://www.kravmagainc.com/Imi-Lichtenfeld-History.html)? This question shows no prior research whatsoever." CreationDate="2015-10-14T12:47:51.367" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11779" PostId="5566" Score="1" Text="Are you asking how close he can get in before you can claim that you feel your safety was threatened? How close is too close to be able to react to attack? How close he physically can approach (which is how it literally reads)?" CreationDate="2015-10-14T17:59:35.003" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11780" PostId="5566" Score="0" Text="Verbal threatening is assault, and can be prosecuted as such if you feel the threat is credible. Doesn't matter how close they get. On a side note, are you sure that escalating things by taunting a known psychiatric case with a felony history is a good thing to do?" CreationDate="2015-10-14T19:34:04.517" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11781" PostId="5568" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the response. I didn't find any nomination for a school name that you prescribe for home training. As I train alone, I do not try the flashy kicks (moon kick, butterfly kick and split kick etc) and stick to the more practical stuff (front, back, side, roundhouse, axe etc) which are easy to do." CreationDate="2015-10-14T20:04:01.667" UserId="6221" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11782" PostId="5566" Score="0" Text="@JohnP I do not think this is a great forum to either give or seek legal advice.  Also, the definition of assault in particular is fairly dependent on jurisdiction." CreationDate="2015-10-14T21:49:07.800" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11783" PostId="5566" Score="1" Text="Can you rephrase the question?  I really need clarification on what you're asking here.  Right now, it just reads as &quot;dealing with a jerk, am I right?&quot; and yeah, dude sounds jerky." CreationDate="2015-10-15T00:43:37.410" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11784" PostId="5569" Score="0" Text="&quot;my art is Tang Soo Do, but my master likes to incorporate many different things in the advanced classes and I get to play with judo throws and jiu-jitsu style grappling&quot; — as someone who used to do exactly this (in karate instead of TSD), take my word on it: this is not even remotely the same thing as experiencing these things in a judo or BJJ school." CreationDate="2015-10-15T05:39:45.440" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11789" PostId="5566" Score="2" Text="I interpreted it as a general question about what to do in this scenario and how to keep a crazy neighbor away from you. It does sound like Frank is eager to start a fight with him and is looking for legal grounds to allow him to fight the crazy neighbor in &quot;self-defense&quot; (in other words, to get away with hurting him, legally). I have advised filing a police report and/or getting a restraining order instead. Egging on and getting into a fight with a crazy person, a known felon, who also knows where you live, isn't a smart idea." CreationDate="2015-10-15T18:18:21.073" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11790" PostId="5569" Score="1" Text="Oh I know, we've got a BJJ instructor (for another class in the same building) that loves to come play. Not that each style and each instructor in a style isn't at least a little different but its some degree of exposure nevertheless." CreationDate="2015-10-15T18:31:37.487" UserId="726" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11791" PostId="5566" Score="2" Text="Currently this question is an anecdote about a neighborly dispute and is only tangentially related to martial arts. If the question can be improved to be more on topic then it can possibly be reopened." CreationDate="2015-10-15T22:03:32.823" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11793" PostId="5540" Score="0" Text="I'm dubious of any discussion of martial arts that hinges on physics, because the intersection of the two sets &quot;I respect their physics knowledge&quot; and &quot;I respect their martial arts knowledge/ability&quot; is quite small, before we even get into questions of complexity and appropriate application of biomechanics/physics to MA...but I've heard [Fight Like a Physicist](http://www.amazon.com/Fight-Like-Physicist-Incredible-Science/dp/1594393389/) is OK." CreationDate="2015-10-16T07:16:56.597" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11794" PostId="2163" Score="0" Text="p.s. after that it's 1 &amp; 20 for brown strip black =]" CreationDate="2015-10-17T01:49:51.793" UserId="1244" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11795" PostId="5540" Score="0" Text="I ordered it. That looks like a possibility as a starting point. Thanks" CreationDate="2015-10-17T04:45:29.640" UserId="6122" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11796" PostId="2875" Score="0" Text="Consider http://stronglifts.com/5x5/ , I personally find the structure of it useful and in conjunction with the phone app, I can pickup my work outs while traveling with hotels that have gyms." CreationDate="2015-10-19T04:39:58.160" UserId="1846" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11797" PostId="5577" Score="0" Text="Sigh. It's always depressing to hear &quot;watch out! You might get *too muscular!*&quot; as if it's something that happens easily. Plenty of very, very muscular people are very, very fast and very, very flexible." CreationDate="2015-10-19T13:38:26.687" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11798" PostId="5577" Score="0" Text="I agree Dave, there are those, but not everyone is the same. Some people aren't that flexible by nature. I actually had 2 students who really had troubles in fighting because they trained a lot with weightlifting. It is also a problem that &quot;too&quot; isn't specific. If you keep training, you can always feel when you're going too far." CreationDate="2015-10-20T07:20:05.650" UserId="422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11799" PostId="5577" Score="0" Text="By the way, one of those students was at the same level as I was (both on the ground as standing). Half a year further and he had grown 10 kg. He was now easy to reverse and though his punches could come strong and fast, it was much harder for him to adjust when he would miss. This is pure logic because there was more force behind his attack that he had to try to stop/adjust. Also on the ground he was a lot easier to submit. So yes I agree, but it's not the case for everyone and as long as someone always keeps that in the back of his or her mind, I think they're ok" CreationDate="2015-10-20T07:23:44.207" UserId="422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11800" PostId="5577" Score="0" Text="I agree that excessive *bodybuilding* can cause trouble, but [weightlifting](http://www.allthingsgym.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Klokov190.png) doesn't cause inflexibility. Quite the opposite." CreationDate="2015-10-20T07:24:45.557" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11801" PostId="5577" Score="0" Text="What sport is this where gaining 10kg of muscle made someone easier to submit? Did this person stop training the sport in favor of lifting?" CreationDate="2015-10-20T07:25:33.673" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11802" PostId="5577" Score="0" Text="We both trained Grappling and I was his teacher at Pencak Silat. He trained less to become fitter but still 3 times a week. There was an increase in power which I struggled with in the beginning, but after a few months I could really feel the change." CreationDate="2015-10-20T07:29:39.040" UserId="422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11803" PostId="5577" Score="0" Text="And by the way, I do weightlifting as well so I agree it definitely helps your game, but it's the key not to do it too much (maybe too is your definition of excessive bodybuilding). And it's a hype at the moment here in the Netherlands to bodybuild." CreationDate="2015-10-20T07:30:47.837" UserId="422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11804" PostId="5577" Score="0" Text="My point is that bodybuilding (lifting to produce muscle size to look good) is not the same as weightlifting (lifting to increase strength and power)." CreationDate="2015-10-20T08:21:06.917" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11806" PostId="5581" Score="0" Text="I would prefer traditional Muay Thai over kickboxing (softer). And yes, I do think when it comes to hitting, nothing compares to this art. I was looking for something that combines this with ***quick*** grappling and clinching. Judo and Jiujitsu are far too detailed and slow for street usage unless you're an expert with these." CreationDate="2015-10-23T04:26:25.363" UserId="6221" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11807" PostId="5581" Score="1" Text="@YoustayIgo You seem to have a lot of ideas about how a lot of martial arts work, without ever having actually done **any**. I can understand someone with experience in one art forming an opinion on a similar one, but from your comments I'm confused as to what you think judo is." CreationDate="2015-10-23T06:08:41.937" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11808" PostId="5559" Score="0" Text="&quot;There is no skill to [be] encountered here in an opponent. There is just brute force ... and lots of it.&quot; -&gt; Yeah, right. Lots of people are naturally athletic, and that means more than just brute force. Some people instinctively *move* better. You're caricaturing your bullies." CreationDate="2015-10-23T06:10:50.427" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11809" PostId="5581" Score="0" Text="Judo is a mix of choking, throwing, imbalancing and locking (so as to incapacitate) the opponent. There is lesser difference between grappling arts than there is between striking arts. One to one, a grappling person would have an edge over the striker (one successful hold=KO) but usually there are a lot of imbalances involved in _real life_ so generally striking martial arts have an edge (one versus several etc). And no, I have practiced martial arts earlier. Only from books (some chinese eagle forms and si yi forms) and not directly from a teacher." CreationDate="2015-10-23T06:14:27.877" UserId="6221" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11810" PostId="5581" Score="2" Text="I stand by what I said: you have no clue what judo is, and you haven't practiced martial arts. Try taking a road trip to a judo or boxing club to actually experience these things at least once before acting like you have an educated opinion." CreationDate="2015-10-23T06:15:59.900" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11811" PostId="5559" Score="0" Text="@YoustayIgo You &quot;harden&quot; your body through strength and conditioning training, like at a gym with barbells and kettlebells. The other option is to spar as in boxing or judo." CreationDate="2015-10-23T06:22:04.200" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11812" PostId="5582" Score="0" Text="+50. Harsh, brisk, and leaving no doubt as to the solution to the problem paused." CreationDate="2015-10-23T07:25:01.030" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11813" PostId="5561" Score="0" Text="You really can't learn to fight without fighting. So sparring is a necessity." CreationDate="2015-10-23T17:46:29.403" UserId="1978" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11814" PostId="5581" Score="1" Text="I feel like you'll get more from your question if you include your previous experience and what you are looking for.  What is &quot;easy&quot; to learn sometimes depends on past training.  That said, dealing with multiple opponents isn't a matter of striking or grappling - you use everything you can.  Tripping or knocking someone down, breaking a limb, are also useful as much as weapons and striking.  However, you can't really learn to deal with multiple opponents very well without training partners." CreationDate="2015-10-24T00:53:01.463" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11815" PostId="2424" Score="0" Text="@KeithNicholas agree, do muay thai. Still the best." CreationDate="2015-10-24T17:27:26.143" UserId="1978" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11816" PostId="5583" Score="1" Text="Can you explain how this helps practice the technique?" CreationDate="2015-10-26T11:01:34.750" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11817" PostId="504" Score="0" Text="This doesn't explain how the OP can practice the technique." CreationDate="2015-10-26T11:11:30.873" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11818" PostId="528" Score="0" Text="I disagree; fingertip thrust (TKD equivalent of spear hand) to the solar plexus can be very effective. (I know this from personal experience)." CreationDate="2015-10-26T11:15:09.630" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11819" PostId="4626" Score="2" Text="Please note - there are changes coming in next year that will change this - with a lot of anger at the new rules from a lot of the international community." CreationDate="2015-10-26T14:07:45.250" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11820" PostId="5582" Score="0" Text="haha.. &quot;you're just engaging in martial masturbation&quot;" CreationDate="2015-10-27T16:43:44.093" UserDisplayName="user6332" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11822" PostId="5587" Score="0" Text="How are you blocking the kick? What else have you tried to counter the first kick?" CreationDate="2015-10-29T14:39:37.047" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11823" PostId="5587" Score="0" Text="clarified a bit, but generally I try to play the front leg game. I try to fake or get some footwork in, but usually when I also lead front leg I get jammed, and whoever is faster/has stronger legs can try to kick over the jam." CreationDate="2015-10-29T19:51:21.363" UserId="6338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11824" PostId="5591" Score="0" Text="I've been watching some matches with people like Jade Jones, Lee Dae Hun, etc.  Getting perspectives. The step in is a good move that my coach advocates using, but I'm wondering how I can stay on the offensive. Unfortunately the back is a target zone in WTF.&#xA;&#xA;Jade Jones' match from 2012 isn't a particularly good one, unfortunately. [This one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bSVrBtcTUk) is a better example; the female atheletes tend to poke and retreat a lot. High level atheletes usually have a mexican standoff with their front legs and try to score quickly before their opponent can respond." CreationDate="2015-10-30T10:15:20.393" UserId="6338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11825" PostId="5592" Score="3" Text="Is HEMA &quot;Historical European Martial Arts&quot;? If so, it would be useful to expand the abbreviation the first time you use it!" CreationDate="2015-10-30T14:26:08.943" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11826" PostId="5553" Score="0" Text="With some changes, this could be a better question: remove the average age question, and the first kick questions." CreationDate="2015-10-30T15:09:39.603" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11827" PostId="5590" Score="0" Text="Good answer overall. Could you clarify what you mean by serious students overpracticing? When they practice one technique and neglect other things, isn't that just practice in depth? How much time does the serious student you have in mind practice?" CreationDate="2015-11-01T15:28:52.787" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11828" PostId="5596" Score="0" Text="The links I posted don't seem to be opening up into thumbnails, so if someone could help me by making them do so, I would appreciate it." CreationDate="2015-11-02T03:57:23.453" UserId="6104" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11829" PostId="5590" Score="0" Text="Over-practicing means practicing more than you need to in order to retain what you already have or get better. There are diminishing returns to repeating something over and over again, basically. Doing something 1000 times may be no better, or nearly no better, than doing it 100 times. This even applies to when you have a teacher there giving you correction and feedback as you go, because it often takes down-time and sleep to allow your brain to make the connections that it needs to. Sleep and down-time is integral to learning. But beyond that, what over-practicing does is to crowd out..." CreationDate="2015-11-02T04:02:59.633" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11830" PostId="5590" Score="0" Text="... other things that you need to practice in order to just retain your skill level in those things. Practicing just the stuff you're learning in class right now necessarily means you're not practicing the stuff you learned a year ago. When you totally neglect something, it will deteriorate. There's a bare minimum amount of practice you need to retain it over the long term... This can be applied to either a depth-first or a breadth-first strategy. It's just about how you can optimally learn and retain what you learn. A depth-first strategy would not just teach you something and repeat it..." CreationDate="2015-11-02T04:11:22.867" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11831" PostId="5590" Score="0" Text="... Rather, a depth-first strategy explores all aspects of that thing they teach you. So there might be 20 ways to get a guillotine choke. In a breadth-first strategy you might learn 2 ways for white belt one stripe, while learning a dozen other techniques besides the guillotine. In a depth-first strategy, you learn all 20 ways before moving on to the next technique. As for learning, however, it's all the same. It's just stuff that you repeat. Whether it's 20 variations of the guillotine or 20 completely different techniques. It's 20 things." CreationDate="2015-11-02T04:15:10.943" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11832" PostId="5589" Score="0" Text="5-7 is a lot of moves per class just about any way you slice it." CreationDate="2015-11-02T09:11:31.040" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11833" PostId="5596" Score="0" Text="My impression is that it seems he's doing something more akin to classical jojutsu rather than Aikido. It looks similar to the Kukishin Ryu jojutsu, which you can see here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu4AwEuQrDI" CreationDate="2015-11-02T22:02:49.747" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11834" PostId="5589" Score="0" Text="I agree with you @DaveLiepmann, but this happens in some places." CreationDate="2015-11-03T00:31:29.477" UserId="5818" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11835" PostId="5599" Score="0" Text="I know that ninjas have nothing to do with Aikido, it's just what the fans have been saying.  I posted another victim of his fighting techniques.  I also upvoted your answer.  Much appreciated." CreationDate="2015-11-03T02:37:16.620" UserId="6104" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11837" PostId="5606" Score="2" Text="Thanks for reply, Yes both use left hand and the image is taken from series Sherlock S3E3 ([here is a gif from performing it](http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/4-29-2014/Gbjy31.gif) &amp; of course I don't expect actors to perform a technique correctly) &amp; it is not chicken wing" CreationDate="2015-11-03T22:43:31.157" UserId="6359" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11839" PostId="5606" Score="2" Text="@4r1y4n I have seen this referred to as a chicken wing. I suspect the &quot;chicken wing&quot; term is highly imprecise with multiple definitions." CreationDate="2015-11-04T03:58:32.167" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11840" PostId="5606" Score="3" Text="The gif makes me sure that this is a movie version of the chicken wing and related locks I mention. The point is to prevent the shoulder from moving forward in space while moving the wrist and elbow upward towards the back of the shoulder." CreationDate="2015-11-04T07:10:43.353" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11846" PostId="5608" Score="1" Text="You're advocating violence against a child as a form of discipline? In the UK, that goes against all current safeguarding advice!" CreationDate="2015-11-04T10:18:29.067" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11847" PostId="5608" Score="0" Text="This is utterly terrible advice. We are teachers not bullies!" CreationDate="2015-11-04T11:08:15.103" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11848" PostId="322" Score="1" Text="@MarkC.Wallace: A fair few &quot;independent&quot; dojo are still part of the BAB as they can get cheap insurance via them." CreationDate="2015-11-05T11:45:14.830" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11849" PostId="5610" Score="1" Text="Aikido locks (or any other for that matter) work just fine on a static opponent. There is nothing clever in wrist locks, just simple body mechanics. The rest of the answer is fine." CreationDate="2015-11-05T13:04:59.140" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11850" PostId="5610" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion I agree, you can perform a lock on a static opponent, but it can fail for two reason: **1.** You will have to deploy more power. **2.** If your opponent is stronger, there would be less chance to succeed." CreationDate="2015-11-05T13:14:16.623" UserDisplayName="user5590" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11851" PostId="5596" Score="0" Text="@sardathrion - I'm still not seeing thumbnails." CreationDate="2015-11-05T15:33:06.483" UserId="6104" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11853" PostId="5596" Score="0" Text="@WadCheber: Nope, my powers are weak. Tried something akin to [here](http://gaming.stackexchange.com/a/23841/33618) but failed." CreationDate="2015-11-05T15:35:47.307" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11854" PostId="5596" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion - I've only had this problem on betas - could that have something to do with it?" CreationDate="2015-11-05T15:51:32.987" UserId="6104" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11855" PostId="5596" Score="0" Text="Possibly. Maybe [ask a question on meta](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/ask)?" CreationDate="2015-11-05T15:58:38.143" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11856" PostId="5615" Score="0" Text="Please do not accept any answer before at least 24 hours.  This leaves others a reason to post their own answers, some of which might be way better than mine!" CreationDate="2015-11-06T13:04:22.037" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11857" PostId="5618" Score="0" Text="I would say in the middle. The kind of floor that wouldn't get you injured unless you practice hard which is what is requiered in muay thai. So I guess it's alright to train on some kind of hard floors, not really for me though :)" CreationDate="2015-11-06T13:22:26.203" UserId="6370" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11858" PostId="5615" Score="3" Text="Just as a counter perspective, we were advised to put our autistic son in a Martial Arts program (I suppose you could say against his will, though he goes willingly now because he likes it) specifically to help him learn to focus and not to fidget, and deliberately did NOT tell the instructors about his disability to see what their perspective was on his capabilities. That being said if you think you have the rapport, I would strongly advise sharing your observations with his parents." CreationDate="2015-11-06T13:38:22.927" UserId="6372" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11859" PostId="5617" Score="3" Text="Please do not accept an answer for at least 24 hours. It leaves room for others to write their own answers which could be much better than mine!" CreationDate="2015-11-06T13:55:39.473" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11860" PostId="5615" Score="0" Text="@Mark: You make a good point.  I shall reflect that in my answer." CreationDate="2015-11-06T14:41:29.423" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11861" PostId="5621" Score="0" Text="Great advice, especially the last paragraph." CreationDate="2015-11-06T14:59:58.390" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11862" PostId="5617" Score="0" Text="What were the foot injuries?" CreationDate="2015-11-06T15:37:08.810" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11863" PostId="5619" Score="0" Text="You know it's like you're suppose to rotate your foot to give more power as you kick. Repeating this on a hard floor started some blood blister.&#xA;&#xA;Sometimes I ended up wasting the floor with my blood." CreationDate="2015-11-06T15:43:10.513" UserId="6370" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11864" PostId="5617" Score="0" Text="Blood Blister. I wasn't the only one having it even though I had the worst ones" CreationDate="2015-11-06T15:44:01.643" UserId="6370" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11865" PostId="5619" Score="3" Text="@SebastienFERRAND That has little to do with how hard the floor is. The texture of the floor—rough or smooth—is relevant. Were you training enough to get acclimated to training?" CreationDate="2015-11-06T16:34:52.040" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11867" PostId="5625" Score="1" Text="+1 for mentioning the personal feedback. That makes a huge difference for my son as well, when he is made to feel special and others are looking at him as an example, he is more likely to behave more appropriately." CreationDate="2015-11-06T18:54:25.090" UserId="6372" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11868" PostId="5634" Score="0" Text="Would this be more at home on [skeptics](http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/)?" CreationDate="2015-11-09T07:41:47.707" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11869" PostId="5627" Score="1" Text="Welcome to the site!  This is a superb answer, thank you very much for taking the time to write it." CreationDate="2015-11-09T07:53:11.730" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11870" PostId="5633" Score="3" Text="If you are concern about something relating to your health, *of course you should go to see a medical doctor about it as soon as possible.* Never, *never*, **never** take medical advise from the web." CreationDate="2015-11-09T07:57:20.843" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11871" PostId="5633" Score="0" Text="I agree, Sardathrion, and I hope this is just a case of washing the dobok wrongly, or that it is normal for a big guy like me to sweat so excessively. I have been sweating like this for many years. It does feel that my dobok absorbs sweat too well so much that the colour changes." CreationDate="2015-11-09T08:04:38.470" UserId="1797" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11872" PostId="5634" Score="5" Text="How on earth will a soft (soda) drink hurt your flexibility? They will hurt your energy levels though because they will dump a huge amount of sugar into your system, which has many effects." CreationDate="2015-11-09T09:53:58.743" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11873" PostId="5631" Score="1" Text="What evidence shows that removing meat and dairy from you diet will save you money? What research/reading have you already done on vegetarian diets for boxers?" CreationDate="2015-11-09T11:20:02.200" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11874" PostId="5628" Score="1" Text="Could you add what style your school teaches and/or what organistion it belongs to (national or international)?" CreationDate="2015-11-09T11:21:57.017" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11875" PostId="5628" Score="0" Text="I'm not sure what style it belongs to, it might just be private. We don't go to or have any competitions." CreationDate="2015-11-09T12:38:28.993" UserId="6378" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11876" PostId="5631" Score="2" Text="It's almost always cheaper to live on a purely vegetarian diet in most locations. The only caveat is that you must prepare your own food, rather than buying prepackaged convenience foods. And you should prefer frozen and dried bulk foods to fresh. Fruits would be the most expensive thing in this diet, since fruit has to be fresh, so those you buy in-season and on sale only. Meat is generally going to come out to be a lot more expensive for the amount of calories and protein it provides than vegetarian bulk foods. And studies show fast food is actually more expensive than making your own." CreationDate="2015-11-09T21:13:19.007" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11877" PostId="5628" Score="0" Text="I'm intrigued. What style do you practise?" CreationDate="2015-11-10T03:27:08.390" UserId="1797" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11878" PostId="5628" Score="0" Text="`I'm not sure what style it belongs to` _My post two posts above this_" CreationDate="2015-11-10T04:16:30.513" UserId="6378" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11882" PostId="774" Score="1" Text="You got injured while training and did not seek medical help at the time, or within 24 hours, or even after that since it is still hurting.  However, you gladly seek advice form utter strangers with (potentially) no medical training whatsoever?  How does that make sense?" CreationDate="2015-11-11T08:17:59.213" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11883" PostId="5641" Score="1" Text="You are quite right about the overweight part. I have gotten it checked but the doctor did not see anything else that is unusual. I just sweat a lot, and should continue exercising to keep my weight at a better level." CreationDate="2015-11-12T04:20:43.323" UserId="1797" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11884" PostId="5636" Score="0" Text="I am wearing the ICTF uniform. I have a ITF uniform too, but I don't wear it unless I can't get the ICTF uniform to dry in time (after a wash). &#xA;&#xA;However I think you have the best answer. I should look for alternative materials. I can sew/stick on the crest over the original one, because I have issues with &quot;being uniform&quot; with the others in the group." CreationDate="2015-11-12T04:24:43.640" UserId="1797" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11885" PostId="774" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion You're being uncharitable. Training produces all sorts of weird injuries that are new to people but that don't necessitate a doctor's visit—which, let's remember, costs time, money, and emotional energy. Asking one's peers (who are more experienced in these cultural practices) what to do about a small potentially-nothing, potentially-serious injury is the *most normal* response. If I went to a doc for every injury like this I would never get any work done and my doc would brand me a paranoid hypochondriac." CreationDate="2015-11-12T07:15:59.630" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11886" PostId="5619" Score="0" Text="I was practicing 3 times a week for 2 hours long. Bottom line is : I guess it's alright to train on hard ground after all as long as it looks like we'll get use to it. It doesn't look like it was my case because of a foot problem I omitted to mention - I wouldn't see any progress on the injury seriousness after months. Thanks for feedback !" CreationDate="2015-11-12T08:26:07.820" UserId="6370" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11888" PostId="5643" Score="0" Text="I like the idea of &quot;sweating clean&quot;, but I now accept the fact that I'm a heavy sweater due to my size and I should be training harder to get fitter. If I still sweat heavily when I'm at a more acceptable weight range, then I'll look into &quot;sweating clean&quot; to see if it helps." CreationDate="2015-11-13T07:05:13.740" UserId="1797" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11889" PostId="5647" Score="0" Text="Cold Steel's Bastard Sword is $469.99." CreationDate="2015-11-14T02:19:13.303" UserId="6397" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11890" PostId="5650" Score="1" Text="Can you back up your claim with references?" CreationDate="2015-11-14T11:45:12.363" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11891" PostId="5654" Score="0" Text="You're from Sparta, right? Will Connick was telling me that I should try to clash and force them back if I'm stronger. The problem is that sparring against someone who has a really nimble front leg (like Doug) they can just flip over your leg when you clash at mid height." CreationDate="2015-11-15T08:43:28.493" UserId="6338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11892" PostId="5650" Score="0" Text="Only from personal experience (though to be fair, most of martial arts answers come from anecdotes or your own masters or coaches rather than research) but my poomsae coach is a member of the national Taekwondo team, and he alongside several of my teammates warn that accumulating fats gets in the way of flexibility, simply because it makes it harder to get a full extension on a sidekick or other such techniques." CreationDate="2015-11-15T08:46:58.447" UserId="6338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11893" PostId="5654" Score="0" Text="Yes sir that's me! William has some really good insights also and I agree with his advice if you are stronger. I think it comes down to how you're clashing with him. &lt;br&gt; If both of your legs are bent, it's a bit more dangerous because his leg is still cocked and ready. When i'm saying clash (perhaps William too) I'm talking about clashing when his leg is extended, that might help a bit. In Doug's case I would recommend getting my leg or arm on top of his leg before trying to follow up, specifically to deny his font leg flippy kick. It may be easier to analyze if I had a clip to watch?" CreationDate="2015-11-15T14:22:38.287" UserId="6400" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11894" PostId="5654" Score="0" Text="Mmm, I think I see what you mean. When he said clash though I'm pretty sure he meant when both people have their legs up and are shin-to-shin. Trying to get an arm on top is a good one though, I've never heard that one before." CreationDate="2015-11-15T20:06:45.310" UserId="6338" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11898" PostId="5649" Score="0" Text="We have uniforms made from slightly different materials by different manufacturers, but there isn't one made lightweight specifically for sparring." CreationDate="2015-11-16T05:47:35.873" UserId="1797" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11899" PostId="5681" Score="0" Text="Could you re-format your answer to be a little clearer and add some references?  This could be a great answer." CreationDate="2015-11-16T07:43:17.430" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11900" PostId="5687" Score="0" Text="Thank you! I indeed expected not being able to keep on progressing. I'll hope I don't loose too much!" CreationDate="2015-11-16T22:00:26.853" UserId="2041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11901" PostId="5688" Score="0" Text="Maybe it's because of lack of practice but I can assure you I can't keep my armbar while crushing my testicles! Especially not during practice sparring. In competition I could go over it I guess" CreationDate="2015-11-16T22:05:23.190" UserId="2041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11902" PostId="5634" Score="2" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's about the effects of soda/energy drinks in the body. Just because the original comment comes from a martial arts instructor doesn't make it a non nutrition question. Probably a better fit on health.se" CreationDate="2015-11-16T22:54:19.083" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11903" PostId="5687" Score="2" Text="While the mirror is good, it can also promote bad positioning as you try to look at the mirror while doing various techniques. I've found that video is much better, and readily available on most smartphones now." CreationDate="2015-11-16T22:56:34.467" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11904" PostId="5689" Score="1" Text="Wel!! They do shin conditioning prior to sparring. A weak shin will always tend to break if it's blocked with the knee or a stronger shin. So you should be careful when using your shin to kick. That's why most of the muay thai fighters tend to kick lower kicks aiming for outer thighs which reduces the risk of damaging / breaking their shins." CreationDate="2015-11-17T02:26:14.987" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11906" PostId="5684" Score="3" Text="You can use the upper thigh of your outer leg to execute the submission instead of letting your opponent's elbow to crush your groins. (E.g.: If you are on your opponent's right side, then you use your upper thigh of your left leg to execute the submission)" CreationDate="2015-11-17T02:30:31.217" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11907" PostId="5689" Score="1" Text="You are always welcome :)" CreationDate="2015-11-17T02:30:57.563" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11914" PostId="5688" Score="1" Text="@TopinFrassi I believe you. But the point is to develop the ability. Toughness is both a mental skill and a physical comfort with the uncomfortable position." CreationDate="2015-11-17T06:09:11.077" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11917" PostId="5687" Score="0" Text="Video is a great idea.  Should've mentioned that." CreationDate="2015-11-17T13:09:59.997" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11918" PostId="5689" Score="0" Text="@mattm I sure will do!!" CreationDate="2015-11-17T14:24:34.500" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11919" PostId="5688" Score="1" Text="Toughness is better applied on the receiving end of an armbar to differentiate when the armbar is merely uncomfortable versus in danger of breaking your arm. Crushing your testicles when you don't have to is just unwise." CreationDate="2015-11-17T14:32:21.110" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11920" PostId="5697" Score="1" Text="I've also practiced BJJ for a small amount of time and *just* enrolled in a Judo class! So I'm covered on that side :)" CreationDate="2015-11-17T15:19:44.183" UserId="2041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11921" PostId="5698" Score="0" Text="I always assumed that it is an analogy to putting a round into the chamber of a firearm: [see this](https://youtu.be/rJMXXuGhINE?t=45). Thus, to chamber something means to get ready to fire it." CreationDate="2015-11-17T15:24:44.923" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11922" PostId="5697" Score="2" Text="Good deal :) I think more stand up fighters should work on their ground game." CreationDate="2015-11-17T15:28:59.180" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11923" PostId="5699" Score="0" Text="I'm sorry but I still don't get it. Would it mean that the definition of a chambered kick is different according to each kick? For example, would a round kick have the same &quot;pattern&quot;? Is the chambering muscle-related? What differences does it make in the impact to chamber the kick? (Should I add these questions in an edit to my OP?)" CreationDate="2015-11-17T15:35:15.190" UserId="2041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11924" PostId="5699" Score="1" Text="I think this is fine as a comment.  No, each kick would have a different chamber.  I'll add some images to illustrate this point.  The &quot;chamber&quot; for a round kick will be different from that of a side kick.  The act of fully drawing back in preparation for throwing the kick is the chamber." CreationDate="2015-11-17T15:38:52.520" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11925" PostId="5699" Score="0" Text="**THAT** is a good answer! :D Thanks a lot, it's crystal clear now." CreationDate="2015-11-17T16:36:21.007" UserId="2041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11926" PostId="5699" Score="0" Text="Glad I could help :)  Good luck in your training." CreationDate="2015-11-17T16:41:54.720" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11927" PostId="5699" Score="2" Text="As regards different chambers for different kicks, that's style-dependent. Some styles use the same chamber for, e.g., a front, side, and round kick, the raised knee in the front. In doing so, it helps disguise just what kick you're going to throw although, in my opinion, it's a bit more awkward for some of the kicks." CreationDate="2015-11-17T19:21:36.443" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11928" PostId="5100" Score="0" Text="As @RolandTepp said, find a teacher. I've been training tai chi for a few years now from a good coach, and from that I can tell you that (perhaps) especially for tai chi, there is a LOT that you will not pick up on from videos. If you don't get instruction from someone directly, you likely are making a lot of mistakes." CreationDate="2015-11-17T21:28:40.577" UserId="334" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11930" PostId="5706" Score="0" Text="Unfortunately I cannot use the extra pushups/punishment for a multitude of reasons (We have juniors and we dont have a need to build strength etc) and they do follow  the more simple rules (start and stop training each technique etc)." CreationDate="2015-11-18T12:13:30.100" UserId="6415" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11931" PostId="5707" Score="1" Text="I agree completely. I know when I train I find it invaluable. I do not find it helpful with beginners though as sometimes they are already out of their depth (if doing a complex technique) and then the individual shows them something different and encourages them to try it their way. In this situation, I worry for the student and don't want them to be too overwhelmed." CreationDate="2015-11-18T12:35:48.230" UserId="6415" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11932" PostId="5707" Score="0" Text="@NinjaArekku In cases like that you have to trust the senior student. If the beginner starts to look confused then that is a signal for you to step in. I've found that a little bit of tangential creativity can hook the beginners right in, too much line work and rote moves tends to bore them or be a bit tedious (remember that all beginners want to learn cool moves *now*, some creativity helps feed that need)." CreationDate="2015-11-18T12:54:38.417" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11933" PostId="5705" Score="3" Text="Depending on how small your kid is: *do something with them!*" CreationDate="2015-11-18T13:19:22.977" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11934" PostId="5708" Score="0" Text="A collection of very sensible ideas! Thank you! I had not considered this approach before. I am not sure when I am to teach again but i will bear this in mind." CreationDate="2015-11-18T14:06:15.647" UserId="6415" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11938" PostId="5705" Score="4" Text="Along with Topin's answer: If the ligament is gone, it can possibly be repaired using either a cadaver ligament or a ligament from elsewhere in the body. Seeing a doctor would let you know what *all* your options are." CreationDate="2015-11-18T22:26:17.973" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11944" PostId="5709" Score="0" Text="My kid is too small, the only thing we do is run around house and roughousing. I wrote that I want to feel the sweat and the feeling of fight, which I cannot get from my son for the next 18 years, and by that time it may be even more dangerous for me. I have the problem that I never liked hitting sports, otherwise boxing would probably be good." CreationDate="2015-11-19T10:49:28.827" UserId="6417" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11945" PostId="5709" Score="0" Text="I guess I have to adapt to older age somehow, I don't know how people that used to train hard and fight rough get through life after they have to slow it down. It seems there are no recipes after that point. And yea, I hope my kid does Judo, but I can't help feeling a bit disappointed by sports in general, if they cannot motivate people with a slight disability." CreationDate="2015-11-19T10:50:33.060" UserId="6417" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11946" PostId="5712" Score="0" Text="Unfortunately doctors dismiss people with injured knees that want to do urgent or long term treatment unless they are top athletes (I am just an amateur, not a pro). And I live in Sweden, where healthcare is supposed to be one of the best. I was simply dismissed when I checked with the doctors, and I could not afford to spend more time and money at the time. As long as I could still walk and I was not a pro fighter I was not an interesting case for a medic. I will try to follow your advise though and get a doctor looking into it, maybe find a private clinic." CreationDate="2015-11-19T10:59:02.503" UserId="6417" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11947" PostId="5711" Score="5" Text="I'd debate your definition of &quot;martial art&quot; not applying, but otherwise, it's a decent answer." CreationDate="2015-11-19T13:41:26.347" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11948" PostId="5709" Score="0" Text="@grokkaine My Tae-Kwon-Do master has both ACL pretty much destroyed forever. In her case there's no real trick other than to teach (even then, there's no fighting). Maybe that is something you could experiment? (If you are given the possibility and if you're high-ranked enough!) It would be a different feeling but maybe you'd like it?" CreationDate="2015-11-19T14:20:23.243" UserId="2041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11949" PostId="5709" Score="0" Text="I would reiterate, you should try to see a doctor! Or maybe a sport's physiologist (I'm not sure that's the good term). Maybe they could help you figure out solutions!" CreationDate="2015-11-19T14:21:02.840" UserId="2041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11951" PostId="5717" Score="0" Text="I'm not sure I got the thing about closing the knees to the arm &quot;sooner&quot;" CreationDate="2015-11-19T18:15:50.177" UserId="2041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11952" PostId="5712" Score="0" Text="Unfortunately I don't know about other countries' medical systems, however, I know in the US the ligament replacement surgery is common enough, although expensive (however, that has more to do with our medical system than the issue itself.)  If you can't get a doctor to ok that, at least get in touch with a sports specialist who can help you figure out what movement options will work best for you." CreationDate="2015-11-19T20:56:29.253" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11953" PostId="5688" Score="0" Text="We must be going to different grappling competitions.  Two out of three I have been to officially required males to wear cups (though I don't know if they actually try to enforce that) and the third allowed it.  Other than that comment, I agree with this answer and emphasize point number 1.  If 1 and 2 are done right, 3 and 4 should be superfluous." CreationDate="2015-11-19T22:31:10.393" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11954" PostId="5688" Score="0" Text="@TimothyAWiseman They're against the rules in judo and IBJJF BJJ. NAGA apparently allows it but they're kind of the Wild West. My point with 4 is to short-circuit potential white belt complaints about elbows in the groin. I try to avoid ball crushage but A) there's a bit that just happens and B) not all pain due to inexact armbars is actually the testicles, but just the fact that it's an elbow and elbows are uncomfortable just about anywhere they're jamming into you." CreationDate="2015-11-19T23:13:11.800" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11955" PostId="5714" Score="0" Text="If you disagree with the content of another answer, you should not edit your disagreement into that answer. Leave a comment so the original author can choose to revise and others can see where there is disagreement." CreationDate="2015-11-20T03:27:12.977" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11956" PostId="5719" Score="1" Text="I am voting to close, because this is asking for a list of things which SO/SE is terrible at: what could be the *best answer*?  This is a popularity contest with a huge sample bias." CreationDate="2015-11-20T09:26:13.087" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11957" PostId="5719" Score="0" Text="Having said that, if you narrow down your requirements, then this could potentially be a good question." CreationDate="2015-11-20T09:26:46.477" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11958" PostId="5720" Score="2" Text="This answer needs a bit more structure to it. For instance, can you provide a links relating to the training Bruce Lee developed? OP is not asking which art to perform because of weight-lifting, but how weight-lifting will help any martial art." CreationDate="2015-11-20T11:44:48.130" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11959" PostId="5719" Score="1" Text="Answers to this are going to be subjective, so voted to close." CreationDate="2015-11-20T11:47:58.803" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11960" PostId="5719" Score="0" Text="Possible duplicate of [Solo martial art learning](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/3129/solo-martial-art-learning)" CreationDate="2015-11-20T12:46:04.837" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11961" PostId="5719" Score="0" Text="Traditional kung fu is rarely &quot;globally acknowledged&quot;. The certification process is basically that a teacher declares at some point that a student can now teach. There is often no standard curriculum and no governing bodies like you will see in tae kwon do, judo, or karate. Even if the particular style is related to more famous ones, the teacher and the teacher's teacher will determine your experience." CreationDate="2015-11-20T13:05:44.723" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11962" PostId="5697" Score="1" Text="For cross-training, Hapkido is also a good choice, as the striking and kicking overlaps nicely with TKD (and will share Korean terminology), but it also will include throws, joint locks, grappling, and be somewhat more self-defense oriented." CreationDate="2015-11-20T19:41:46.810" UserId="698" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11963" PostId="5726" Score="0" Text="You might find some answers at http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/5504/how-to-fit-a-gumshield-it-some-teeth-are-missing/5505#5505" CreationDate="2015-11-20T20:32:48.290" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11964" PostId="5721" Score="1" Text="Thank you for your extensive answer! What I forgot to mention is that I have a few years of MMA experience. So I actually know how to fight (I hope so, lol).&#xA;&#xA;I'm actually currently learning Chinese philosophy and think that learning Kung Fu would actually benefit my learning process (because these are so tightly connected). Also I find it to be a great mind-body relaxation / coordination exercise." CreationDate="2015-11-20T21:58:32.080" UserId="6427" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11965" PostId="5719" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion Thanks for the suggestion. I've narrowed it down and clarified it a bit, as well as added some more info." CreationDate="2015-11-20T22:06:01.917" UserId="6427" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11966" PostId="5721" Score="0" Text="Oh you are a rare breed aren't you? Most MMA guys make fun of kung-fu. But yeah, if you're not out to learn how to fight / self-defense, then kung-fu really is amazing to get the body working and coordinated. For relaxation? Depends. Maybe after many many reps of a form, yes. Until then, your mind will be screaming thoughts at you like, &quot;Look up, not down! Your stance wobbled there! Your back isn't straight! Your toes aren't pointing forward!&quot; Etc. My advice: Look into contemporary wu-shu. It's a blast! And you can learn from video. It's very challenging, though!" CreationDate="2015-11-21T03:12:58.877" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11967" PostId="5726" Score="0" Text="Talk to your dentist; they are the experts when it comes to teeth!" CreationDate="2015-11-21T14:36:07.407" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11968" PostId="5729" Score="1" Text="Great answer. I will point out that many people willingly make the trade of potential joint damage for the ability to hit harder, especially because many of the serious problems show up only when practitioners get older." CreationDate="2015-11-21T22:05:41.173" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11970" PostId="5172" Score="2" Text="On second read I'm confused. I don't have a red tip on my BJJ belt; I have a black tip, and I wear it on the right. I stand by my earlier comment but that's a bit weird." CreationDate="2015-11-22T08:43:46.120" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11976" PostId="5739" Score="0" Text="You may have slightly better luck with upvotes if you can provide some references. I know that I'd appreciate it." CreationDate="2015-11-23T12:34:04.137" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11977" PostId="5739" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan Honestly I'm not sure where to start with adding links." CreationDate="2015-11-23T12:36:53.087" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11978" PostId="5739" Score="1" Text="Understandable. The statements you are making are &quot;common sense&quot; for you." CreationDate="2015-11-23T12:37:53.443" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11979" PostId="5172" Score="1" Text="When I was doing Chun Kuk Do (then known as &quot;Chuck Norris-style&quot; Tang Soo Do), we similarly had tips on our belts (with electrical tape, funnily enough) and having the tip on the left was just how it was done, no explanation any more than there's an explanation why one never buttons the bottom button on a suitcoat in modern fashion." CreationDate="2015-11-23T12:45:20.043" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11981" PostId="5739" Score="6" Text="It saddens me that this is what people view Aikido as: nothing but fall for sensei. I have seen it.  I have seen the exact opposite as well." CreationDate="2015-11-23T13:43:14.653" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11982" PostId="5738" Score="2" Text="+1 Empty your cup.  So much that!!! Note that the rest of the answer is good." CreationDate="2015-11-23T13:44:49.960" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11984" PostId="5732" Score="0" Text="I added a link to a paper discussing micro-fractures in my answer above." CreationDate="2015-11-23T14:16:24.093" UserId="1615" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11986" PostId="5734" Score="0" Text="Check the links in [this Bullshido thread](http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=84554)." CreationDate="2015-11-23T14:31:31.727" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11989" PostId="5739" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion I consider the exact opposite to be aikidoka testing their art in MMA competition or sparring, or something akin to it. Is that what you mean?" CreationDate="2015-11-23T15:18:51.640" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="11996" PostId="5739" Score="2" Text="@DaveLiepmann: My I am not being clear today... ^_~  Bad: *dojo practice Aikido like a cooperative dance*. Good: *dojo that practice against uncooperative opponents and might have competition be it MMA-style or not*. Sad part is that too many people Aikido only has the bad and not the good." CreationDate="2015-11-23T15:55:23.750" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12000" PostId="5741" Score="0" Text="I have a PDF of a paper by Daniele Bollelli, M.A. in the Journal of Asian Martial Arts, Volume 12, Number 3 from 2003, entitled Mixed Martial Arts: A Technical Analysis of the Ultimate Fighting Championship in its Formative Years. That's a good start." CreationDate="2015-11-23T16:33:05.283" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12001" PostId="5741" Score="0" Text="I'd also consider http://www.journalofasianmartialarts.com/product/other-areas/mixed-martial-arts/a-study-of-chokehold-submissions-in-mixed-martial-arts-contests-of-ultimate-fighting-championships-from-2000-to-2011-detail-472" CreationDate="2015-11-23T16:34:26.857" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12002" PostId="5741" Score="0" Text="[This BS.net thread](http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=86597) also discusses how spotty, unreliable, and variously-arranged data for MMA competition is." CreationDate="2015-11-23T16:44:47.657" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12003" PostId="5741" Score="0" Text="However, it sounds like you may be looking for more granular FightMetric-style analysis, e.g. number of head kicks landed, number of significant strikes, etc. Unfortunately I think the only source of that data is [proprietary](http://www.fightmetric.com/research)." CreationDate="2015-11-23T17:07:30.930" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12005" PostId="5729" Score="1" Text="I refuse the assumption that only increasing the bone density results in &quot;hability to hit harder&quot; . or that is the most effective and safe way to do so. Will post an answer on that" CreationDate="2015-11-23T17:51:52.603" UserId="5769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12007" PostId="5732" Score="1" Text="I had a chance to briefly scan the medical paper you cited in your answer. My tentative conclusion (correct me if I missed it) is that it describes how bone is normally formed and then covers diseases and conditions that affect bone growth. It doesn't seem to cover this particular claim: that bone density is increased through martial arts practices that beat against the bone. It talks about fractures and how the bone heals, but it doesn't seem to deal with the added question of how that affects density of the bone in the long term. Please add a quote that deals with this issue, if you can." CreationDate="2015-11-23T20:33:49.447" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12009" PostId="5731" Score="2" Text="Please quote from the citation(s) you listed that support the claim that martial arts practices of beating against the bone causes bone density increases in the short or long term. It's not enough just to cite the source paper in its entirety." CreationDate="2015-11-23T20:38:05.990" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12010" PostId="5172" Score="0" Text="Similarly, in my karate organisation, some people with their names on one side of their belt and the organisation name on the other insist that the organisation name side goes on the left, name on the right. Always. One guy even says to me he 'doesn't feel right when the side are switched'. We do not have tips or other identifiers on our belts." CreationDate="2015-11-23T23:26:34.410" UserId="1026" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12018" PostId="5742" Score="3" Text="[I would not look for a style but for a school and a great teacher.](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/469/82)" CreationDate="2015-11-24T07:42:13.083" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12021" PostId="5742" Score="0" Text="What about the classes you tried made them seem geared towards the average man?" CreationDate="2015-11-24T09:32:17.027" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12022" PostId="5739" Score="2" Text="@Sardathrion: As a practitioner and trainer of Judo (2nd Dan) I would say that a good dojo has to do practice with cooperative partners in order to get an idea of the technique and after learning a fundamental form developing it against uncooperative opponents. Your &quot;good&quot; basically has the problem of people not learning the techniques in a proper way (read: form) first, which is a problem in many Judo-Dojos especially regarding kids these days. So &quot;good&quot; would include both." CreationDate="2015-11-24T17:26:05.593" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12027" PostId="5172" Score="0" Text="If a black tip is used on the right side, and a red tip is used on the left side, and the black tip means higher rank than the red tip, than that's strikingly similar to the Dao De Jing passage I quoted about the positions of the commanders during war." CreationDate="2015-11-24T21:18:41.900" UserId="6437" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12029" PostId="5739" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking: Clearly randori-ho has stages from very simple to full blown fights and complements traditional kata teaching.  Nobody throws people into a pit and let them fight unless they are in a Conan movie. If you (and others) wanted to know more, I could I create a question about it and write an answer?" CreationDate="2015-11-25T08:43:30.637" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12030" PostId="5592" Score="0" Text="update: right now this project will be on hold because there is not enough &quot;motivation&quot; (many people are interested but no body what to move a finger) in my town. But I found a guy who go to train to other club each Saturday. It is still 1h travel but we can share gas expenses at least for make it easier." CreationDate="2015-11-25T11:24:29.147" UserId="6344" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12031" PostId="5752" Score="0" Text="I don't have experience in this area, but you might check out http://www.medieval-fightclub.com/pages/Choosing-a-sword.html" CreationDate="2015-11-25T15:36:35.227" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12033" PostId="5756" Score="9" Text="I respectfully disagree with much of this.  I have been in both military and tournament scenarios, and I would generally favor the more skilled person over the more aggressive one in both of those scenarios.  I have won sparring matches entirely because the other person was too aggressive and gave me openings to calmly exploit.  In the military we are taught that aggression certainly has its place, but it needs to be done tactically, not wildly.  In self defense, I suspect it is even more true.  Being too aggressive can wind up escalating a situation that could have been prevented." CreationDate="2015-11-25T21:44:27.240" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12034" PostId="5739" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion: I think a question on proper Dō-Training regarding randori and its various forms and the training of the form of techniques (forgot the movie title, but not the quote: Learn the form in order to learn the formless) will be discussed lively. And there are some points in training sciences on this like the numbers of repetitions. But it may be too broad as it is highly depending on the actual technique. Difficult task to ask *one* question, I think. Perhaps a cluster of questions, one for every art, will do the job." CreationDate="2015-11-25T21:59:52.803" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12036" PostId="5750" Score="1" Text="Well now I know how boxing works!" CreationDate="2015-11-26T07:36:48.857" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12037" PostId="5763" Score="0" Text="I just wrote the previous comment (Bob).  I would recommend positive reinforcement.  And possibly such as we will wait to start the class till everyone is in a line." CreationDate="2015-11-26T17:39:52.287" UserId="6463" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12038" PostId="5419" Score="0" Text="so in a sense, in a bareknuckle fight, you might want to try limb destructions and avoid dodging punches as a method to fatigue.&#xA;eye gouges n those types are viable for life-threatening street fights and grappling is _possible_.." CreationDate="2015-11-26T17:49:59.670" UserId="5958" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12039" PostId="5419" Score="0" Text="Indeed. In the Burmese martial art of Lethwei, there are no gloves, and the tactic is used of lowering the head to catch firsts on the harder parts of head.  http://fightland.vice.com/blog/fighting-motives-how-rules-change-styles" CreationDate="2015-11-26T18:49:00.933" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12040" PostId="5742" Score="3" Text="Thank you all for the answers! As I'm looking for real-world scenarios, I'll definitely look into Krav-Maga as well as BJJ. I didn't really want to post it but the previous training I got was in the police academy,, where it was 95% male and definitely focused more on subduing your opponent than GTFO of a bad situation, which is what I want now as I probably won't be in a position to call for backup! Nor will I be open-carrying weaponry). So I will go look into those two disciplines, keeping in mind a good instructor will make the difference." CreationDate="2015-11-26T23:19:51.527" UserId="6446" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12042" PostId="5763" Score="0" Text="OCD seems like an odd match for &quot;pushing boundaries&quot; given it's all about having unwanted thoughts and performing rituals to banish said thoughts. Are you looking for a different mental disorder?" CreationDate="2015-11-27T15:27:39.533" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12044" PostId="5766" Score="0" Text="Duh? plane not plain. Apologies." CreationDate="2015-11-28T00:10:25.217" UserId="6467" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12046" PostId="5765" Score="0" Text="**Where** is the pain? Is it the same both sides? Do you have the same issue both ways, or is your stance different from left to right?" CreationDate="2015-11-29T11:50:15.343" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12047" PostId="5766" Score="1" Text="+1 for Kagawa Sensei. And 1 legged squats. Also, would like to mention to the original poster, while you're working on your back stance, check your kibadachi with all the points TVentresco mentioned in the first half of this answer. I see this common failure with these two stances all the time in our dojo (butt sticking out, hip joint not flexed nearly enough, knees pointing inwards)." CreationDate="2015-11-30T03:05:08.927" UserId="1026" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12048" PostId="5771" Score="1" Text="Can you provide any references to support your assertion about martial artists and weighted clothing?" CreationDate="2015-11-30T09:35:42.523" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12049" PostId="5765" Score="0" Text="I generally get pain just below my patella and when I push my knee out I get a sudden sharp pain on the inside of my thigh near my groin, not sure what muscle/tendon that might be" CreationDate="2015-11-30T11:40:54.560" UserId="6136" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12050" PostId="5759" Score="1" Text="As a teacher of Judo I take my time to make self-defense lessons from time to time and my first points are always that the best self-defense is being able to stay out of a fight and the legal definition. And I often have to point out that even if we train certain techniques thousands of times, there is no certainty whatsoever that I have covered the abilities crucial to that specific situation one might get into. The main point in learning MA for self-defense is therefore my appearance. To learn the &quot;formless&quot; needed in-fight you have to do &quot;it&quot; (whatever it is) for years either way." CreationDate="2015-11-30T12:16:11.920" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12051" PostId="5773" Score="0" Text="Yes I do have free health care so it is not a problem but I work in IT so that would be really unpleasant from job viewpoint (incapacitation are paid thought). I will ask if some one got injured in my club but they love their red dragons the &quot;master&quot; believes that it is the best option." CreationDate="2015-11-30T13:15:49.763" UserId="6344" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12053" PostId="4758" Score="1" Text="Number of medals has zero to do with being an effective instructor." CreationDate="2015-11-30T20:14:42.883" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12054" PostId="4758" Score="0" Text="medals are part of an example to my answer" CreationDate="2015-11-30T20:24:12.547" UserId="4438" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12055" PostId="5771" Score="0" Text="Can you add some punctuation as well?" CreationDate="2015-12-01T04:03:03.930" UserId="5516" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12056" PostId="5773" Score="0" Text="Further consideration for the severity of consequences may be warranted; beyond a broken finger, what would the impact be if a finger or the hand is effectively maimed. Nerve damage, bruised or disconnected ligaments, etc." CreationDate="2015-12-02T03:24:35.997" UserId="6342" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12057" PostId="5773" Score="0" Text="@DrunkCynic: A point well made.  I shall add this to the answer." CreationDate="2015-12-02T08:37:07.477" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12058" PostId="5778" Score="1" Text="I have the opposite experience, my punches and attempts to slip/dodge feel slow while my opponent's are lightning fast..." CreationDate="2015-12-03T19:52:58.997" UserId="4267" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12059" PostId="5778" Score="3" Text="“Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. That's relativity.&quot; - Albert Einstein. &#xA;&#xA;In a fight the situation is probably too tense and time is felt relatively slower than usual.&#xA;&#xA;You may have quick reflexes from training that is too fast for your opponent. In due time your opponent may get tired due to the lack of stamina. That's when hits feel like pushes." CreationDate="2015-12-04T06:03:02.117" UserId="1797" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12064" PostId="5781" Score="0" Text="Usually there are some honorific 10th dan." CreationDate="2015-12-04T15:58:35.100" UserId="2041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12065" PostId="5734" Score="1" Text="Possibly of interest: http://fightland.vice.com/blog/wushu-watch-lessons-to-learn-from-aikido" CreationDate="2015-12-04T20:51:25.283" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12066" PostId="5779" Score="0" Text="pain always comes next day or late at night. Some only deeper internal damage like pulled ligaments or shoulder always comes more than 1 day later.&#xA;I think you may be right. In life I'm really calm and handle stress easy. I probably build up too much adrenaline which I don't use up :D" CreationDate="2015-12-05T01:36:30.890" UserId="5571" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12067" PostId="5779" Score="0" Text="It's 100% normal to be stressed for a fight and to build lots of adrenaline. Don't you worry about that. I'm a very calm/controlled person but in competition adrenaline changes me completely. After a tkd competition I found out I had a broken hand. During the fight I felt almost nothing ahah" CreationDate="2015-12-05T07:50:09.597" UserId="2041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12068" PostId="5732" Score="0" Text="Bone density can be increased by hitting [tennis balls](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24531424)." CreationDate="2015-12-05T23:51:58.957" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12069" PostId="5732" Score="1" Text="@mattm Yes, that's a well known phenomenon which I mentioned in my answer regarding Wolfe's Law. Any increase of load on your system will have the effect of increasing bone density. Weightlifting is a good example. But even just walking or running will have a similar effect. The reason for osteoporosis in old age is often because of being sedentary. Exercise can strengthen bones. Tennis will work. But it's not the same as beating your bones like some forms of martial arts do. That practice is what is questionable, not loading." CreationDate="2015-12-06T03:43:45.623" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12070" PostId="5732" Score="0" Text="I am confused what you are skeptical of. There is a clear relationship between bone density in the racket arms of tennis players (not generalized to other bones) and hitting things with a tennis racket. Do you think the inference that hitting things with your hands directly also increases bone density is too tenuous? Note this question is entirely separate to whether doing so is either useful or wise." CreationDate="2015-12-06T04:34:40.517" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12071" PostId="5732" Score="1" Text="That's hugely different. That is load. That's not directly pounding the bone like what martial arts does. The way martial arts stuff is supposed to work is that there are microfractures that take place to the bone as a direct result of impact force on the bone. The way tennis and other sports, including just plain walking, work is that they're adding load forces to the bone. The bone has cells in it that respond to the load, secreting structures that build bone and make it more dense. It's not the same as repair after microfracture." CreationDate="2015-12-06T06:58:22.383" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12073" PostId="5774" Score="0" Text="I don't think Brasilian Jiu Jitsu is really focused in self-defense, and you might consider adding Kali too!" CreationDate="2015-12-07T00:47:44.383" UserId="5769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12074" PostId="5386" Score="0" Text="Is it possible to wear a Bluetooth chest strap monitor with the sensor on the back - to avoid the possibility that an opponent's supposedly non-contact blow *isn't* non-contact, and lands on the sensor?" CreationDate="2015-12-07T01:02:12.260" UserId="1262" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12076" PostId="5494" Score="0" Text="Living in northern country, I think WITH gi is more realistic, as I seldom see naked people out in the rain and snow. In real fighting situation it does not matter if the garment is not heavy cotton, ideally you only grab it once and subdue the attacker. Gi is designed for repeated grabbing and pulling, it needs to withstand constant wear and tear." CreationDate="2015-12-07T07:07:24.247" UserId="6488" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12078" PostId="5787" Score="0" Text="I'm no boxer, but circling out and using uppercuts to punish his blitzes sounds like it could be a start." CreationDate="2015-12-07T14:02:40.340" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12079" PostId="5781" Score="0" Text="10th Dan is never given by ITF. Like I said, anything above 10th Dan is given and recognized within one's own federation/association only." CreationDate="2015-12-07T14:31:34.743" UserId="1797" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12080" PostId="5781" Score="0" Text="Oops, seems like you're right! Anyway, as I said, the 10th dan (in other federation, like WTF) is honorific. It's a &quot;gift&quot; for those who contributed to the success/development of the art more than a consideration of any skills/experience." CreationDate="2015-12-07T14:33:55.677" UserId="2041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12081" PostId="5781" Score="1" Text="We have patterns up to 6th Dan only, because advancement from 7th Dan to 8th Dan (and 8th to 9th) is based on merit. The candidate has to have largely contributed to the Taekwon-do community. I suppose it is in the same vein as an honorific one." CreationDate="2015-12-07T14:39:41.303" UserId="1797" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12082" PostId="5781" Score="0" Text="It's also somewhat system dependent. I believe WTF awards Master title at 4th degree, ATA starts with Master at 6th, then Senior Master (7th) and Chief Master (8th)." CreationDate="2015-12-07T16:27:30.317" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12083" PostId="5789" Score="0" Text="Thanks. Edited the typo... I may be a big boy but not quite that big :-)" CreationDate="2015-12-07T16:37:24.703" UserId="4267" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12085" PostId="5788" Score="0" Text="&quot;You have 8 inches over him, forget the jab.&quot; The meaning here is unclear to me." CreationDate="2015-12-07T20:35:44.560" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12086" PostId="5788" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Yeah eh, thinking about it I'll remove that sentence. I'm not experimented in boxing so I don't think I can give meaningful advices about that!." CreationDate="2015-12-07T20:38:21.700" UserId="2041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12087" PostId="5781" Score="0" Text="I agree it's system dependent. Well, it is just a number anyway. A rank certificate does not keep you safe, only skills and fitness do." CreationDate="2015-12-08T02:30:32.047" UserId="1797" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12088" PostId="5790" Score="0" Text="I teach (ITF) TKD and a snap-kick is brought back quickly to ensure your leg can't be trapped, not to spread the impact. The impact has already happened when the leg starts moving backwards." CreationDate="2015-12-08T10:53:08.710" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12089" PostId="5790" Score="0" Text="Maybe it's a terminology thing, but I would disagree with several of your assertions. A bent elbow while punching is not to avoid impact directly on the joint - it's to avoid hyperextension and to maintain control and focus (there's minimal or no benefit in letting the fist travel that 1/2 inch further). Also bending your legs and absorbing the kick force will lead to sloppy weak kicks - force you &quot;absorb back&quot; isn't going in to your opponent. Like I said, maybe it's just a terminology thing." CreationDate="2015-12-08T11:48:05.767" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12090" PostId="5774" Score="5" Text="Krav Maga uses the opponents strength against him? When does that happen? Also have you considered how long you need to train for Aikido, Wing Chun even Wushu and BJJ to be able to use it effectively in a stress situation - some of the moves from those martial arts are highly technical and are only usable in a training atmosphere for the purpose of training - the same applies for Kali ;-) .. but if time is not important i agree." CreationDate="2015-12-08T14:41:05.700" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12091" PostId="5790" Score="0" Text="Not a TDK practitioner, but I don't see why there is an the issue with this answer's discussion of leg  recoil to reduce injury to the leg. Physics analyzes collisions in terms of elasticity: elastic with recoil, inelastic without. If you allow recoil, there is less energy that needs to dissipate somewhere else (your joints, possibly). Sure this may make your kick less damaging to the recipient, but it will also make it less damaging to you." CreationDate="2015-12-08T16:58:08.237" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12092" PostId="293" Score="0" Text="Anyone interested in this question should also read the discussion of injuries in [Is hitting hard objects really effective in making bones harder?](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/5728/is-hitting-hard-objects-really-effective-in-making-bones-harder)" CreationDate="2015-12-08T17:08:27.347" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12093" PostId="5790" Score="0" Text="@matt I think that physiology and physics are getting all mixed up. Recoiling as the kick lands is bad from both a physics and physiology POV - you've got force/momentum going everywhere as you recoil, which will also mean you're off balance and/or twisted. If there is recoil down the leg then that is energy that is not dissipating through the opponent. Retracting the leg after impact is not recoiling, hence my comment about terminology. In any case I think concentrating on just the knee/elbow is wrong - they don't take anywhere near the same impact as the knuckles (which are a joint)." CreationDate="2015-12-08T22:05:04.953" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12094" PostId="5793" Score="1" Text="It depends on what the &quot;hurt&quot; is. You're not going to lose much stamina/conditioning if you take it easy for a week or two. For the jujitsu skills, practice them in your head while you're resting up so you stay up to date mentally." CreationDate="2015-12-09T12:07:28.653" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12103" PostId="5798" Score="0" Text="Yes &quot;acupressure&quot; is what I was looking for. Thanks for that" CreationDate="2015-12-10T10:10:29.880" UserId="6502" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12104" PostId="5797" Score="0" Text="Great answer. I may post this as a separate question, but one of the possibilities I was considering is whether something like acupressure (if known well) can rapidly heal the pain/immobility of pressure point strikes. However since acupressure is a widely contested area there is probably no black and white answer as to its effectiveness." CreationDate="2015-12-10T10:17:46.780" UserId="6502" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12106" PostId="5798" Score="1" Text="@frontend i recomend that book in that case. its about the only one to put the points in the right place. you can also get an electronic sensor to help find the points.  however take this with a generous pinch of salt. you can do amazing things with accupressure but people make rediculous unfounded claims about it. It will not help with infections, asthma or the like. stick to using it to treat muscle pain and headaches." CreationDate="2015-12-10T11:06:41.940" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12107" PostId="5802" Score="1" Text="Have you ever tried these in a situation like judo randori?" CreationDate="2015-12-10T12:10:50.273" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12108" PostId="5798" Score="2" Text="[The effectiveness of acupressure is currently not well documented for any condition](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20813496) or see [Edzard Ernst's site](http://edzardernst.com/tag/acupressure/)." CreationDate="2015-12-10T13:14:01.247" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12111" PostId="5798" Score="0" Text="I agree its not really documented. I put this down to the fact that many practitioners of acupressure claim it can do things it can't. but i know these work. we use them often enough for there to be no doubt." CreationDate="2015-12-10T13:22:48.833" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12112" PostId="5802" Score="0" Text="sure. it was in a jujitsu class. doing 'ground fighting' My sparring partner grabbed my gi from kneeling. I used a technique called katamuna otoshi. he tapped out and told me it wasn't allowed and that i shouldn't have held on so long once he started to tap." CreationDate="2015-12-10T13:26:54.317" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12113" PostId="5802" Score="1" Text="Why did you hold on so long once he started to tap?" CreationDate="2015-12-10T13:31:01.883" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12114" PostId="5802" Score="0" Text="because in shorinji kempo that is what you do. you hold the lock and strike after the tap. I was not fully aware that this is not the case in other styles.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfWg6oGwalU" CreationDate="2015-12-10T13:32:36.393" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12115" PostId="5802" Score="1" Text="So would I be correct in saying that you've executed one wristlock in one jiujitsu (BJJ?) class, when it was against the rules, during groundfighting?" CreationDate="2015-12-10T13:37:53.750" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12116" PostId="5801" Score="4" Text="-1 doesn't answer the question, pure theoretical speculation and claims of being too deadly to test" CreationDate="2015-12-10T13:41:56.667" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12117" PostId="5802" Score="0" Text="I have used wristlocks many times in various situations including actual self defense. you asked about something resembling judo randori so i gave this example. it was not bjj, it was jitsu foundation.  in shorinji kempo we have our own form of randori involving grabs and joint locks. the entire syllibus of some of the grades are basically for use against judo." CreationDate="2015-12-10T13:44:22.357" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12118" PostId="5801" Score="0" Text="@daveLiepmann Have you ever trained in Aikido or with anyone who uses it?  I think you are overly critical of this style." CreationDate="2015-12-10T14:03:17.250" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12119" PostId="5801" Score="0" Text="That's immaterial to my comment." CreationDate="2015-12-10T14:11:46.540" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12120" PostId="5801" Score="0" Text="But to answer your question, I trained standing jointlocks (but not aikido) for ~a decade, and many training partners in judo, karate, and BJJ have trained aikido. I'm not sure what you find overly critical." CreationDate="2015-12-10T14:22:12.807" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12121" PostId="5807" Score="2" Text="Aikido has plenty of competition in it." CreationDate="2015-12-10T16:22:46.743" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12122" PostId="5807" Score="0" Text="I have never seen an Aikido tournament on TV. Do you know a Aikido World Champion?" CreationDate="2015-12-10T16:24:41.990" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12123" PostId="5711" Score="5" Text="I second Sean. Imo, all martial arts are &quot;*self defense systems that have acquired or adapted techniques from different [sources] to fulfill a specific purpose.*&quot;" CreationDate="2015-12-10T18:00:30.607" UserId="5987" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12124" PostId="5801" Score="1" Text="You seem to think that lack of competition is the same thing as lack of testing.  I would argue they are two different things.  One of the Aikdo dojos I have attended has had its own form of sparing with non complient attackers but this was hardly a test because although they resisted the technique but always telegraphed the attack.  conversely the founder O-Sensei liked to challenge those from other styles (in his way).  He certainly was familiar with many judoka. They didn't always 'spar' but he did techniques and they worked compliant or not." CreationDate="2015-12-10T18:02:20.517" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12125" PostId="5807" Score="2" Text="Not being on TV doesn't mean it doesn't exist.  A quick search for &quot;Aikido World Champion&quot; gives https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aikido_World_Championships I don't know any of those people personally.  The search also returned some videos/pictures of people sparring." CreationDate="2015-12-10T18:08:52.110" UserId="6509" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12126" PostId="5807" Score="0" Text="@mitro Moriteru Ueshiba is **the** (current) Aikido master from the original family line who invented it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moriteru_Ueshiba" CreationDate="2015-12-10T18:09:58.850" UserId="6510" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12128" PostId="2252" Score="2" Text="I'm sorry that happened. The person who kicked you repeatedly should not have done that." CreationDate="2015-12-10T18:29:19.733" UserId="6511" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12130" PostId="5711" Score="0" Text="If you see using pepperspray, a chair, glas or even keys and money as a Martial Art then yes." CreationDate="2015-12-10T21:10:46.637" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12131" PostId="5809" Score="2" Text="Just out of curriousity, where did you read that Bruce Lee developed Jet Kune Do for helping American citizens deal with urban violence?" CreationDate="2015-12-10T21:52:53.600" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12132" PostId="5807" Score="3" Text="The fact that *some* aikido styles have some competition doesn't mean that aikido usually involves sparring. Most aikidoka do not spar." CreationDate="2015-12-10T22:00:38.813" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12133" PostId="5807" Score="0" Text="I personally dont see sparring as a competition rather its a preparation, training or simulation tool in preparation for a competition." CreationDate="2015-12-10T22:08:32.607" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12134" PostId="5807" Score="1" Text="[Aikido world championships](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aikido_World_Championships) and [some videos](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=aikido+world+championship)." CreationDate="2015-12-11T08:38:00.297" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12135" PostId="5807" Score="1" Text="@nukeforum: Moriteru Ueshiba is &quot;only&quot; the head of the Aikikai. There are plenty of other styles of Aikido that do not recognise him as part of their style/organisation." CreationDate="2015-12-11T08:40:09.413" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12136" PostId="5807" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion, thanks for the links, good to know." CreationDate="2015-12-11T08:54:34.157" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12137" PostId="5802" Score="1" Text="Could you link to an example of shorinji kempo randori? Because nothing that you describe is anything like judo randori, making your advice both baseless and useless for this question." CreationDate="2015-12-11T11:42:29.827" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12138" PostId="4387" Score="0" Text="You can downvote me all you want, but you can't prove me wrong." CreationDate="2015-12-11T13:16:35.083" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12139" PostId="5807" Score="1" Text="Of course pistol-shooting is a martial art.  Target pistol has as little relevance to battlefield conditions as modern archery.  But the target pistol and target bow are both derivatives of battlefield weapons." CreationDate="2015-12-11T13:16:53.013" UserId="6517" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12140" PostId="5807" Score="0" Text="it is a good thing that people have different opinions :-)" CreationDate="2015-12-11T13:19:16.737" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12141" PostId="5811" Score="1" Text="This does not answer the question." CreationDate="2015-12-11T13:42:37.437" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12146" PostId="5802" Score="1" Text="Unfortunately not. I could film one myself perhaps but most shorinji kempo randori videos online are goho ie punches and kicks rather than juho grabs and locks. I am confused about why we are talking about wrist locks in judo randori anyway. I never use them in actual judo classes outside of kata simply because they are not permitted. I don't know why you say my advise is 'baseless and useless' anyone who trains wristlocks eventually runs into the problem described in this question. I can overcome it to some extent so I thought I would share what I know." CreationDate="2015-12-12T01:23:36.510" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12147" PostId="5800" Score="1" Text="In the UK walking sticks and umbrellas are legal and can be used as weapons with the correct training." CreationDate="2015-12-12T16:23:46.030" UserId="6377" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12148" PostId="5800" Score="0" Text="You are only allowed a walking stick if you need one due to disability.  Or if you are going somewhere in the mountains or similar.  You can't carry a walking stick for fashion alone.  Yes, umbrellas are legal though, you can even buy a combat umbrella for about £100." CreationDate="2015-12-12T16:58:15.123" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12149" PostId="5800" Score="0" Text="&quot;You are only allowed a walking stick if you need one due to disability&quot;: rubbish ;) I know plenty of people who go walking with them. Not one arrest. And they are **not** classified as offensive weapons. See https://www.gov.uk/guidance/import-controls-on-offensive-weapons" CreationDate="2015-12-12T17:05:05.760" UserId="6377" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12150" PostId="5800" Score="1" Text="It's not as simple as that.  Anything is an offensive weapon if you are carrying it for that purpose.  You are not permitted to carry anything for self defense purposes.  Literally not anything.  However if you use something you happen to be carrying for self defense you are fine.  It's a grey area, but I would hazard an umbrella is easier to get away with.  Taking a walking stick to a club is probably a bad idea even if it goes with your outfit." CreationDate="2015-12-12T17:22:45.543" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12151" PostId="5800" Score="1" Text="I give up. Just carry a rolled up newspaper then. You can take one of those into a club. Along with a can of hairspray, a cigarette lighter and a nail file." CreationDate="2015-12-12T17:33:15.263" UserId="6377" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12152" PostId="5809" Score="1" Text="To say *&quot;we're brained washed to believe in martial arts from the perspective of... self-defense&quot;*, and that they're really about the performance of violence, is laughably wrong.  Many martial arts have techniques specifically for controlling an opponent without hurting them, and many more have philosophies they take seriously about minimising violence by e.g. defending so well the attacker realises they're out-classed, or showing the ability to injure without actually doing so as a form of deterrent.  Some aikido styles focus exclusively on control, teaching no techniques to initiate attacks." CreationDate="2015-12-13T10:02:27.647" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12154" PostId="5774" Score="3" Text="@Freedo Gosh that's weird, I work on self-defense scenarios in BJJ class every week: defending against punches, distance management, controlling a striker, getting up from the ground, escaping positions where the opponent can strike..." CreationDate="2015-12-13T11:15:01.267" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12157" PostId="5809" Score="0" Text="What kind of violence does 'modern' tai chi have in it?" CreationDate="2015-12-13T16:30:49.810" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12158" PostId="5815" Score="0" Text="Welcome to Martial Arts! Can you please elaborate on how useful they are. Are they only useful as 'good aerobic exercise'? In that case you can do weight-lifting instead." CreationDate="2015-12-14T08:11:55.970" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12161" PostId="5809" Score="0" Text="This is a rant that does not answer the question." CreationDate="2015-12-14T09:29:07.573" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12163" PostId="5820" Score="4" Text="How does [watching the fight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epmyCLfOjig) (it's not that long⸮) not answer your question?" CreationDate="2015-12-14T11:55:53.023" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12164" PostId="5820" Score="0" Text="Well I don't understand what is happening... Conor seems to slap his head to the ground? Why doesn't he just get back up?" CreationDate="2015-12-14T11:56:54.970" UserId="6528" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12166" PostId="5820" Score="0" Text="Thank you. That sounds like it could very possibly be the reason why it ended so fast. If you could post this as an answer with some citations showing that it did indeed end because of this, I will mark it as the answer." CreationDate="2015-12-14T12:27:05.320" UserId="6528" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12168" PostId="5822" Score="6" Text="I am a neuroscientist, and that explanation is pretty awful (no offense to poster, : it was the first thing that came up in google search for 'what causes knockout' so a natural assumption might be that it is legit:)). I just looked online in the primary literature, and it basically says nobody knows what causes it, but most mention 'concussion.' Consciousness and its loss is a very open scientific topic, so maybe that explains the lack of quality literature on this topic." CreationDate="2015-12-14T16:27:13.950" UserId="6530" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12170" PostId="5822" Score="1" Text="So, this is actually pretty decent, reinforcing that it is not very well understood: http://biology.stackexchange.com/questions/10351/mechanical-cause-of-loss-of-consciousness… . Also, this paper seems very interesting, suggesting basically induces a seizure (http://sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0301008202000187), and we know epileptic seizures are often accompanied by loss of consciousness. I study epilepsy some (not my main area of expertise), and this actually seems very reasonable." CreationDate="2015-12-14T16:49:44.403" UserId="6530" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12171" PostId="5822" Score="0" Text="Also see this it is decent, again even if it doesn't have any primary references (the literature on this is pretty weak, frankly): http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2003-01/1043093631.Ns.r.html" CreationDate="2015-12-14T16:50:14.217" UserId="6530" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12173" PostId="5822" Score="0" Text="I edited that as I realized it came off too strong, I changed it to &quot;pretty awful.&quot; Maybe if you don't know, why answer, or at least be more thorough. Just dumping a quote from popular mechanics may not be the way to go." CreationDate="2015-12-14T16:53:59.327" UserId="6530" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12175" PostId="5801" Score="2" Text="@HuwEvans  It is very hard to provide any kind of real &quot;proof&quot; that O'sensei was able to use Aikido against resisting attackers.  Even if he had some magical ability which we do not, Aikido as a martial art should be able to produce at least some living representatives who can live up to the claims." CreationDate="2015-12-14T18:19:01.163" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12176" PostId="5736" Score="1" Text="I would like to see these claims substantiated.  Where can I watch a video of someone applying these wrist locks, in a setting where striking is allowed?" CreationDate="2015-12-14T18:22:43.933" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12177" PostId="5802" Score="1" Text="We're talking about wristlocks in judo randori because...that's the OP's question? I assumed that he had found a partner who said &quot;yeah, sure, go for it&quot; to wristlocks. I've been there when testing my own wristlocks." CreationDate="2015-12-14T19:00:30.573" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12178" PostId="5809" Score="0" Text="I appreciate you laugh, but actually the first paragraph of my answer fits you. As you're from Japan, you are supposed to know that  even your  [odori](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_traditional_dance) has lot of movements that are directly referring to how samourais manipulate the sword. Same thing (already mentioned in the 3rd paragraph) for Tai-Chi pointed by Mitro. @TonyD" CreationDate="2015-12-14T19:28:03.280" UserDisplayName="user5590" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12180" PostId="5802" Score="0" Text="That opens up a can of worms from an insurance point of view if anyone gets hurt.  Still, that was the OP's question... if he posts some details of what his opponent was doing when he wanted to apply a lock (perhaps another question?) we should be able to tell him which lock to try.  wrist locks are basically reactive techniques.  You use the one your opponent gives you not the one you feel like using." CreationDate="2015-12-14T22:48:27.573" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12181" PostId="5801" Score="0" Text="What about the time he challenged a group of american police to grapple with him in front of a crowd?  If you read eyewitness accounts often written by those who had techniques applied to them by O'sensei some of them said they were beaten.  Hardly something a young Japanese man would say if it were not true.  http://members.aikidojournal.com/public/mr-saburo-wakuta-sumo-champion-tenryu-and-morihei-ueshiba/ I'm not claiming magic here.  Just that the training I have seen in some aikido dojos is much much less realistic than in others." CreationDate="2015-12-14T23:06:23.723" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12182" PostId="5820" Score="1" Text="As for your &quot;how&quot; question, [slow motion](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwbZ0oVRO9s) makes it more obvious." CreationDate="2015-12-15T00:10:07.857" UserId="6535" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12183" PostId="5822" Score="0" Text="Changed the answer." CreationDate="2015-12-15T06:27:36.310" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12184" PostId="5801" Score="4" Text="There are also eyewitness accounts of Ueshiba teleporting and dodging bullets. There are modern eyewitness accounts of people levitating, of Bigfoot, of the time that Karate Jim popped the eyeball of a wrestler who challenged him (I actually heard that one). Eyewitness accounts of anybody are unreliable, of martial arts accomplishments even more so, and eyewitness accounts of a **known cult leader** like Ueshiba defeating all naysayers are *extremely* unreliable." CreationDate="2015-12-15T07:27:23.153" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12185" PostId="5736" Score="1" Text="@StevenGubkin: I do not understand which &quot;claims&quot; you are referring to. Do you want to see Aikido used in MMA? In UFC? In a fake fight on YouTube? Do you wish to see some UK police using Aikido to take down perps?  Or maybe the Tokyo riot police? Or the Osaka one? Do you wish to see a soldier in Iraq stopping a jihadist from stabbing them -- wait, that last one was one of my students and he did not film it. I do not mean to sound aggressive but I do not think that the concept of balance breaking and/or strike before applying another technique to be so outlandish that it needs proof." CreationDate="2015-12-15T09:18:05.737" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12187" PostId="5807" Score="0" Text="*&quot;I personally dont see sparring as a competition rather its a preparation, training or simulation tool in preparation for a competition.&quot;* - or in a martial art, sparring and/or competitions can both be preparations for fighting.  Not in the sense of a fight being necessarily foreseen, but in the sense of being prepared for the possibility...." CreationDate="2015-12-15T14:02:05.113" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12188" PostId="5801" Score="0" Text="Good point well made @Dave.  I probably shouldn't have used the founder himself as an example.  here is an account of someone who studied aikido on the police training regime or similar.  http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=79842 I think this illustrates my point that aikido is not always taught the same." CreationDate="2015-12-15T14:04:03.433" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12189" PostId="5807" Score="0" Text="@Tony D - if you separate real-street fights or life/death situations vs. training then I agree. As to me having a competition let´s say in the octagon or in the ring for a title - is fighting. and I prepare myself with sparring for it... (where winning is secondary)." CreationDate="2015-12-15T14:09:15.330" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12190" PostId="5736" Score="2" Text="I would like to see any film of Aikido being used against a resisting attacker, with strikes involved.  I would like the Aikido to look at least somewhat like Aikido.  I can watch hundreds of videos (MMA, Street fights, assaults, etc) for BJJ, Judo, wrestling.  I have not yet seen such a video for Aikido." CreationDate="2015-12-15T14:14:47.147" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12191" PostId="5736" Score="1" Text="@StevenGubkin: I am afraid that I would get banned if I used a &quot;let me google that for you&quot;... By your current definition any [Shodokan randori](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=shodokan+aikido+randori) would do nicely. Or watch some [British police fights](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=British+police+fights). You might have more luck in defining what you actually want and posting a question &lt;/hint&gt;. 'nuff said." CreationDate="2015-12-15T14:50:28.573" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12199" PostId="5825" Score="3" Text="@Sardathrion I have ample amounts of anecdotal evidence for the effectiveness of Aikido.  Somehow, people have lots of stories about Aikido, and lots of video evidence for BJJ.  This question is about the video evidence for Aikido." CreationDate="2015-12-15T15:51:19.663" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12202" PostId="5825" Score="0" Text="Great question. I will say that I don't think Shodokan competitors throw themselves, but rather that Shodokan curriculum and rules prevent them from resisting in any meaningful way." CreationDate="2015-12-15T16:10:13.600" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12203" PostId="5825" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann  If you look at the video I posted (which is the best example of a shotokan aikido competition I could find:  others looked even less realistic), you will see uke react to Irimi nage by falling backwards with no contact at all.  Also, the ending Sankyo seems to be done out of the notion that it could have hurt, but I see no reason that Sankyo would actually attack any joint:  it is a pain compliance technique.  Both of these seem to reflect a culture of &quot;bailing&quot; early, and the effects of not bailing might not even be that bad..." CreationDate="2015-12-15T16:15:19.200" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12204" PostId="5825" Score="2" Text="I agree about the culture of bailing early. Part of that is the no-clinch rule, though, because I bet it's actually hard to stay in good position when all the correct responses are illegal!" CreationDate="2015-12-15T16:24:31.573" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12205" PostId="5826" Score="1" Text="Thanks. This does look like something approaching a &quot;real&quot; demonstration of Aikido.  Still not very impressive, though, as I would expect a 3 month Judoka to be as effective against this particular opponent..." CreationDate="2015-12-15T16:43:27.377" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12206" PostId="5826" Score="0" Text="I would also like to see named Aikido techniques.  I am not sure the throw you mention is really part of the standard Aikido curriculum." CreationDate="2015-12-15T16:54:12.700" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12209" PostId="5825" Score="2" Text="I'd like to highlight that restraint techniques, if they are applied to someone before they're already restrained, would count just fine. Tracking down a law enforcement application of a standing joint lock would seem to qualify by the points listed above....if the LEO was an aikidoka. There's a bit of ambiguity there with the blurry line between LEO tactics and aikido curriculae." CreationDate="2015-12-15T17:39:36.850" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12210" PostId="5825" Score="1" Text="@DaveLiepmann with the caveat that I would like to see genuinely Aikido restraint techniques.  I do not doubt that an Americana grip can be applied from a standing position, but this involves grabbing, muscling,  dragging, etc, and is not actually a position used in Aikido.  It somewhat resembles Shihonage, but it is not shihonage." CreationDate="2015-12-15T17:43:12.020" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12211" PostId="1451" Score="0" Text="Lacrosse Sticks, which definitely do experience similar amounts of torque, have a squashed hexagonal cross section for this reason; the corners and non-round shape help you keep your orientation. You can see ovular cross sections on sword grips from many cultures as well. Once again, that is to help keep orientation, and in the case of swords, keep good edge alignment." CreationDate="2015-12-15T18:24:18.787" UserId="6374" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12212" PostId="1451" Score="0" Text="@PipperChip	Good point about orientation, although we're talking about octagons here." CreationDate="2015-12-15T18:30:22.737" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12213" PostId="5825" Score="3" Text="I thought we had a community standard that we wouldn't discuss the effectiveness of any given martial art." CreationDate="2015-12-15T19:31:16.550" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12214" PostId="5825" Score="3" Text="@MarkC.Wallace I cannot find such a standard on the tour, or by browsing meta.  Even if there is, my question is rather specific:  it just asks for a video of a particular sort.  There is the distinct possibility that someone could post a video of a beautifully executed shihonage in a street fight." CreationDate="2015-12-15T20:00:42.057" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12217" PostId="5825" Score="0" Text="@StevenGubkin Agreed strongly. The use of a wrist lock does not mean aikido, nor would it validate aikido pedagogy." CreationDate="2015-12-15T20:56:18.460" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12218" PostId="5807" Score="0" Text="@mitro  I want to make clear that I wasn't in any way trying to call you out for your answer, it just served as the most recent example." CreationDate="2015-12-15T21:02:03.487" UserId="3105" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12219" PostId="5807" Score="0" Text="@mitro That said, I'm still not sure I understand the distinction you're making between a &quot;martial art&quot; and a &quot;self-defense system.&quot; Can you elaborate on that? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, right? Anything cohesive enough to be taught means it has rules. Any every martial art evolves and adapts, right?" CreationDate="2015-12-15T21:09:12.250" UserId="3105" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12221" PostId="1451" Score="1" Text="I suppose my point is that circular objects don't have flat surfaces for you to grip; other surfaces (with edges) allow you to do so. Those examples are cases where this principle has been applied. In any case, you have a good answer." CreationDate="2015-12-15T23:20:29.003" UserId="6374" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12222" PostId="5807" Score="0" Text="@grovberg - inserted some further thoughts ... maybe they are easier to understand now :-)" CreationDate="2015-12-15T23:36:06.293" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12223" PostId="5828" Score="1" Text="Arching or rounding? Can you find a picture example?" CreationDate="2015-12-16T08:51:16.400" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12226" PostId="5800" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion It's is not illegal to use something legal to carry for self-defense if you attacked by somebody with a machete (for example). If I carry any of the listed items it is not possible to prove I **had the intention** of using them as a weapon. We are not quite yet living in a state of thought police. Please remember the question is about **self defence** not about intent to cause bodily harm." CreationDate="2015-12-16T09:39:31.180" UserId="6377" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12229" PostId="5800" Score="0" Text="@DavidPostill: The [crown prosecution service](http://www.cps.gov.uk/) seems disagrees with you: [Premeditated violence: the extent to which the accused found themselves unexpectedly confronted by a violent situation, as opposed to having planned and armed themselves in the expectation of a violent situation.](http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/self_defence/#Public_Interest). So, if one were to carry an object to use as a weapon (arm themself), they *might* fall foul of this. **I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV. Seek a professional criminal lawyer in your local.**" CreationDate="2015-12-16T10:08:07.730" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12230" PostId="5828" Score="0" Text="Is this on all kicks? I usually see this on front kicks, so I figured I'd ask." CreationDate="2015-12-16T12:22:19.577" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12231" PostId="5828" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I'll try to find a picture. But I'm arching my back, not rounding it." CreationDate="2015-12-16T14:01:44.013" UserId="2041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12232" PostId="5828" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan Well, on most of my kicks, not only the front kick!" CreationDate="2015-12-16T14:02:12.890" UserId="2041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12233" PostId="5828" Score="2" Text="Off of the top of my head, arching the back is probably giving you slightly more reach (by allowing you to push your hips forward more and counter-balancing that movement with your head and upper body), but puts your spine in a more perilous situation with impact of the kick because it is in a stretched position with less support." CreationDate="2015-12-16T15:45:43.057" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12234" PostId="5825" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion Your video shows the possibility of using striking against grappling.  It does not show striking always works.  It demonstrates that it can at least theoretically work, since it worked in at least one instance.  A video of an Aikido person being beat shows nothing, as you rightly point out.  I am asking for a video of Aikido working.  Do you notice the logical difference between these?" CreationDate="2015-12-16T15:47:17.397" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12235" PostId="5825" Score="1" Text="Holy downvote army, Batman! -3 here and -1 on my answer just for asking for videos. I guess that's easier than, shucks, finding videos (which exist!) and writing them into an answer." CreationDate="2015-12-16T17:07:13.797" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12236" PostId="5809" Score="1" Text="@mitro - modern taijiquan has plenty of violence encoded into its solo forms and paired exercises. Whether or not some (or perhaps even most) practitioners ignore it, does not make the original intent of martial arts forms, taijiquan included, less violent." CreationDate="2015-12-16T19:39:19.610" UserId="424" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12237" PostId="5809" Score="0" Text="@roland tepp- I think that we all agree on the original Intent of Martial arts, but I have never seen somebody s nose  broken because of a slow motion punch." CreationDate="2015-12-17T05:30:41.280" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12238" PostId="345" Score="0" Text="Probably https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE_-jSowa6Y for the video. That's Youtube's bandwidth. :)" CreationDate="2015-12-17T14:08:16.803" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12239" PostId="5825" Score="1" Text="@DaveLiepmann: I had issues with the questions, made a comment, said comment was ignored. Thus, I downvoted.  Which is kinda a shame since I *do like the question in general*. As for an answer, none of the police officers, prison wardens, and soldiers I train with that use Aikido daily in their jobs film themselves and upload it to YouTube so I have no videos to show. I could trawl YouTube until I found one but I guess that OP already has done that." CreationDate="2015-12-18T10:07:15.843" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12240" PostId="5826" Score="5" Text="I **really** do not get why this was downvoted..." CreationDate="2015-12-18T10:07:44.820" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12241" PostId="5825" Score="2" Text="@Sardathrion Can you suggest how to improve the question? Would eliminating the &quot;background&quot; section make it acceptable?  I do not think I ignored any of your comments:  in fact, my response to it still stands above.  Maybe I misunderstood your comment." CreationDate="2015-12-18T14:05:19.973" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12242" PostId="5774" Score="2" Text="@DaveLiepmann BJJ is not really for self-defense, no matter how hard you want to say you train for it in your bjj class. in any real street fight, one of your top objectives is to never go to the ground. if you are on the ground, you are in extreme danger from a number of unknowns that you will not have time to think about nor take precautions against when fighting for your life. Yes train it, but you should not rely on you having time to perform your controlling techniques because there will be another guy there to stomp your face in when you stay still trying to control a guy for too long." CreationDate="2015-12-20T20:51:23.760" UserId="5958" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12243" PostId="5809" Score="2" Text="@mitro you obviously have no idea what taijiquan is about. &quot;Slow motion punch&quot; would be funny if that wasn't the way many people view their taiji practice. Watered down and partial practice has hurt so many TMA styles these days it's not funny anymore" CreationDate="2015-12-20T22:04:47.630" UserId="424" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12245" PostId="5832" Score="2" Text="This is quite clearly not a real fight, and is a staged demonstration.  Sigh." CreationDate="2015-12-20T23:14:18.813" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12246" PostId="5826" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion Voting is anonymous so I can't see who down voted, but having said that people are also not required to justify a down vote. It's just part of the risk of answering a more contentious question - somebody may disagree with the answer, and that somebody doesn't necessarily have the knowledge or wisdom to fully appreciate the answer." CreationDate="2015-12-20T23:28:03.443" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12247" PostId="5774" Score="3" Text="@Zero You don't always get to decide where the fight goes. BJJ is the best way to train to escape a bad position one is unwillingly put into. Plus, the idea that BJJ is all pulling guard and fighting from the bottom is a fallacy: the better grappler is more likely to be on **top**, in control of the situation." CreationDate="2015-12-21T07:03:07.760" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12248" PostId="5774" Score="1" Text="The degree to which you simply ignored the specific things I said I train regularly as part of BJJ is kind of mind-boggling, actually. Note that I didn't mean &quot;defending against punches&quot; and so on *from the ground*, I meant *from all positions* including standing." CreationDate="2015-12-21T07:04:21.677" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12254" PostId="5832" Score="0" Text="I'm not saying your wrong but how can you tell in this case?  The feints of the attacker and the flinches of the aikidoka look real enough to me." CreationDate="2015-12-21T09:44:40.287" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12255" PostId="5809" Score="0" Text="@roland tepp - I agree it is not funny." CreationDate="2015-12-21T09:45:38.840" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12256" PostId="5832" Score="0" Text="@HuwEvans The only vaguely fight-like section I saw on skimming was a single telegraphed spin kick where the pre-determined attacker kicked and waited to be countered. If I missed something then provide a timestamp. More broadly, this is a puff piece for a TV show designed to promote, not test." CreationDate="2015-12-21T13:05:00.773" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12257" PostId="5832" Score="0" Text="https://youtu.be/rs4gTZjSqJc?t=4m33s&#xA;Just after the piece you saw.  I'm not claiming this is a 'test' of Aikido as such, but the attackers do not know aikido and are not compliant." CreationDate="2015-12-21T13:16:18.440" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12258" PostId="5832" Score="2" Text="@HuwEvans It should be painfully obvious that these are staged.  If you really want me to catalogue everything that shows me that, I guess I could.  But it would feel like explaining the difference between a head of lettuce and a head of cabbage.  They look somewhat similar, but everyone who has had both can tell the difference." CreationDate="2015-12-21T13:25:39.270" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12259" PostId="5832" Score="0" Text="I'm not actually sure what you mean by the word 'staged' here.  We have what I would call a 'staged' fight in shorinji kempo.  We call it an embu.  Eveyone knows exactly what is going to happen and it is practised repeatedly.  This is not the case here.  They may have been told what to do.  Maybe even how to attack.  But they are not actually compliment beyond that.  They don't know how they are meant to fall." CreationDate="2015-12-21T13:38:56.477" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12260" PostId="5832" Score="2" Text="@HuwEvans It may not have been &quot;choreographed&quot; (although it may have), but the two attackers knew they would never strike the Aikidoka for real, and they knew that they should go along with his techniques, and fall for them." CreationDate="2015-12-21T13:58:18.740" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12261" PostId="5832" Score="0" Text="I must disagree on the last point.  They do not 'go along with his techniques'  That part is real enough.  They only fall when they have to." CreationDate="2015-12-21T14:03:01.180" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12262" PostId="5832" Score="2" Text="The attackers don't land a punch, nor do they rush at him, nor do they establish any clinch. The single thrown punch is soft, slow, telegraphed, without power, and doesn't seem to be aimed at the aikidoka. They attack one at a time (see 4:54). They don't resist his techniques. They let him grab their wrist without countering in any way. They are timid and tentative. After falling to the ground they act like stuntmen killed in an action flick. **For all these reasons, it is clear that this is an example of a semi-scripted compliant demonstration.**" CreationDate="2015-12-21T14:09:40.863" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12263" PostId="5832" Score="1" Text="First green shirt tries to punch Aikidoka, and does not retract his arm after the punch, allowing the Aikidoka arm control.  While Aikidoka is applying his technique to green shirt, green is no longer between green and blue which should allow blue to move around and attack.  But blue is **watching** the technique.  When technique is finished he turns to deliver a haymaker.  Note that blue leaves his right leg back as he punches with his right fist, generating no power, and off balancing himself.  He also leaves his arm extended and goes with the Shihonage (no resistance)." CreationDate="2015-12-21T14:13:11.610" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12265" PostId="5832" Score="1" Text="I'll also note that the lack of, say, mouthpieces or gloves for any participant is also a tell that it's compliant. Most people have trouble punching someone full-force, especially in the absence of malice, if they know the other guy might lose a tooth!" CreationDate="2015-12-21T14:20:37.870" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12266" PostId="5832" Score="0" Text="Contrast all of this with Dave's video above.  Aikidoka's techniques do not always work (to be expected in a real fight!).  Both combatants get hit (to be expected!).  Fight enters into all ranges (long striking, short striking, clinch, ground).  This is obviously real." CreationDate="2015-12-21T14:20:51.977" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12267" PostId="5832" Score="0" Text="@HuwEvans I would suggest (if you have not) seeking out a judo school and seeing what it is like.  Actual resistance is so different from anything the average Aikido school offers that it is hard to even know what it is if you have not experienced it." CreationDate="2015-12-21T14:24:19.690" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12268" PostId="5832" Score="0" Text="I have already trained in judo for several months.  It's my second choice martial art.  I know what resistance is.  but it's not black and white.  In this case green shirt tried to punch and can't pull his arm back because it it caught.  the blue dressed man has the first pushed into him unballanceing him.  as soon as he has his ballance back he lauches a very bad punch.  but it's not bad because he punches with the right leg back.  You can punch with right leg back and right arm in any style." CreationDate="2015-12-21T14:50:29.150" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12269" PostId="5832" Score="0" Text="@HuwEvans What I meant to convey is that the punch is bad, and he does not put any power behind it.  He way overextends, and having his right leg way back contributes to this.&#xA;&#xA;I am not sure there is much point in my trying to convince you anymore.  We have all the evidence before us, and reach different conclusions.  To me, it is just plainly obvious that this is staged." CreationDate="2015-12-21T15:02:46.683" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12271" PostId="5836" Score="0" Text="How do you know he's an aikidoka? Is that quick clip him in an aikido dojo?" CreationDate="2015-12-22T11:45:01.483" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12272" PostId="5836" Score="0" Text="The description of the video claims that.  It seems like the uploader knew him somehow." CreationDate="2015-12-22T14:31:38.447" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12273" PostId="5774" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann the fact that i said &quot;there will be another guy there to stomp your face in&quot; and u still talk about doing anything at all with the other guy on the ground boggles my mind. doesnt matter if ur on top or bottom. u are ON GROUND = stomp ur face vs soccerball kick ur face..." CreationDate="2015-12-22T15:14:45.057" UserId="5958" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12274" PostId="5774" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann if you are practicing stand up fighting at ur bjj class, then great! thats good. it is still not as effective as practicing standup where they actually have standup as an official part of their art though. and it is nowhere close to practicing actual street or self-defense." CreationDate="2015-12-22T15:17:42.607" UserId="5958" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12275" PostId="5774" Score="1" Text="@zero Consider knee on belly, the top position I was thinking of—that's no more vulnerable to a soccer kick than a boxing stance. Consider that training BJJ allows one to get out from under an attacker so that his friend can't stomp me in the head. Consider that BJJ has always had and continues to have stand-up techniques as &quot;official&quot; parts of the art—hip throws, headlock counters, punch defenses, distance management. These are part of the Alliance basic curriculum and the original Gracie tapes. How are you not getting this?" CreationDate="2015-12-22T15:26:55.133" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12276" PostId="5774" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I would have to disagree. In boxing, i am free to slip low, but in muay thai, if i slip low, i risk myself getting kneed and KO'd. Any position that is lower than about neck level is vulnerable to knees or kicks. Any position lower than chest level or so is vulnerable to soccerball kicks or stomps. I could stomp your face from waist high and you would not like it and I can perform it almost as fast as a snap front kick with all my bodyweight. consider that no matter how fast you are able to get out from an attack, you can fail. same principles apply to slipping punches but worse" CreationDate="2015-12-22T15:34:33.273" UserId="5958" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12277" PostId="5774" Score="0" Text="i understand that there are &quot;stand-up techniques&quot; as part of the official art. but thats to GET TO the ground. it is not refined at all. unless you are just gifted, doing just bjj wil not make you a great standup fighter nor will u be able to avoid all attacks while below. this kind of thing becomes way too dangerous in the street. look at royler vs sakuraba fight. nothing he can do. and thats just one assailant on a mat in a ring. we are talking about street right?" CreationDate="2015-12-22T15:37:23.583" UserId="5958" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12279" PostId="456" Score="0" Text="your ability to drive through them is more a function of how much force is being applied to them by you vs how much force they can resist by them. surface area of the foot will modulate the local aspect of the forces but most likely will not change the amount of pushing force.   &#xA; most people tend to give a stronger, more forceful attack when they try to be quicker and/or attack with a smaller &quot;footprint&quot; due to your heightened attention to retracting at the right moment and doing so with slightly greater force. stronger retracting force equates to a precedent stronger extension or push force." CreationDate="2015-12-22T15:56:02.763" UserId="5958" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12280" PostId="225" Score="0" Text="yah. i find that when you bend your basing leg, you are able to push the angle of your lifting leg up (and give your spine more room to angle downwards) in a way to angle your knee or push kick higher" CreationDate="2015-12-22T15:57:44.760" UserId="5958" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12281" PostId="227" Score="0" Text="I would have to disagree with your 2nd line. going on the ball of the foot is better when i encounter resistance because that is the time when I am squeezing every bit of power I can into the kick and now there is something to absorb or take that hit (like a punching bag). when there is no resistance and i go on the ball of my foot, i would have overextended or overexerted and most likely, i would keep moving through the target. when I do not go on the ball of the foot, nothing has changed much and I am still in stable control of my body. all other parts though, i agree completely" CreationDate="2015-12-22T16:00:41.867" UserId="5958" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12282" PostId="558" Score="0" Text="Possible duplicate of [Going up on the ball of the foot for a front snap kick](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/216/going-up-on-the-ball-of-the-foot-for-a-front-snap-kick)" CreationDate="2015-12-22T16:14:32.963" UserId="5958" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12283" PostId="5837" Score="2" Text="It would be helpful to indicate what &quot;teaching purposes&quot; are exactly. Why are forms a better teaching vehicle than another option?" CreationDate="2015-12-22T19:25:17.910" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12284" PostId="5836" Score="1" Text="The &quot;quick clip&quot; at 1:12 is Joe Thambu Shihan, 8th Dan Yoshinkan Aikido, who weighs 55kg and worked as a bouncer for many years.  He is the chief instructor at Aikido Shudokan in Melbourne, where I train.  Needless to say, not the same person as was fighting in the video (or the fight would have been much shorter!)." CreationDate="2015-12-23T15:12:00.817" UserId="6556" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12286" PostId="5825" Score="0" Text="There is some decent mat-walking in this video of Jay Dods (Ellis), he really digs his toes in.  I didn't notice any other normal Aikido.  He wins the fight with a kick to the head.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaLqQrNsvKs&amp;t=4m23s" CreationDate="2015-12-23T17:31:45.940" UserId="6556" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12287" PostId="5825" Score="0" Text="@SamWatkins  I do not think this video answers the question, but thanks for your contribution." CreationDate="2015-12-24T01:16:10.530" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12288" PostId="5836" Score="1" Text="@SamWatkins If you believe that your sensei can apply Aikido technique to resisting opponents, I would welcome you to ask him if you could film such training.  It would be immensely valuable to public perception of the art." CreationDate="2015-12-24T01:18:35.910" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12289" PostId="5838" Score="1" Text="This doesn't answer the question at all" CreationDate="2015-12-24T11:26:20.407" UserId="57" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12290" PostId="5828" Score="1" Text="You also asked about kick power - if you are leaning backwards at all the kick power is likely to be deflected upwards instead of forwards. You will also not be committing as much weight forwards to the strike. (this applies to most kicks - in breaking mass through the board is key)" CreationDate="2015-12-24T11:49:56.990" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12291" PostId="5840" Score="5" Text="What sort of things are they looking for in a martial art? What are you looking for?" CreationDate="2015-12-26T05:38:01.433" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12292" PostId="5825" Score="0" Text="It's not life footage so I won't post this as an answer, but the video mentioned in [this answer](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/5841/88) is interesting. An armed-robber was disarmed by an Aikidoka with only 3 months experience." CreationDate="2015-12-26T18:06:22.270" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12293" PostId="5825" Score="0" Text="@THelper this does seem like a reasonable answer to the question.  It certainly documents effective use of Kote-gaeshi." CreationDate="2015-12-26T20:48:37.333" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12294" PostId="5840" Score="2" Text="What do you mean by better?  A black belt is not a sign of mastery.  It's just another step.  If the school is good this doesn't have to be the end of their learning." CreationDate="2015-12-26T22:17:53.683" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12296" PostId="5844" Score="2" Text="As Judo may be with a good instructor. But instructors are more important than the art, as correctly highlighted in various threads. As long as the instructor is looking for a broad training of speed-strenght (as it has to be trained in young age) as well as athleticism and coordination, and does not forget fun, any sport will do. If it has to be a martial art, some kind of grappling will be a good complement for TKD. That's definitely true." CreationDate="2015-12-27T23:57:49.960" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12297" PostId="5847" Score="1" Text="-1 for equating weight training with mass training and eschewing speed training." CreationDate="2015-12-28T01:24:46.857" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12298" PostId="5842" Score="0" Text="See http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/4425/347 or http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/4451/347" CreationDate="2015-12-28T05:04:34.207" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12299" PostId="5847" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann: Ok, will edit it in its absoluteness. But I take it to be the standard case from experience that weight training just too often is made with heavy weights that will have this effect." CreationDate="2015-12-28T09:19:51.413" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12300" PostId="5847" Score="0" Text="if relying on your saying, olympic lifters would be the slowest people on earth because they move heavy weight with low reps! However it is of benefit for increasing POWER to work with max weights while incorporating speed training! Fast-twitch fibers are the ones that need to be developed and that can be achieved through contrast training for example. Even Bruce used to train with heavy weights. ... btw. I m not sure that you can reduce the amount of fast-twitch or other fibers, I recall that that is a genetical gift." CreationDate="2015-12-28T13:52:41.223" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12301" PostId="5840" Score="3" Text="You cannot expect them to be black belts at this young age! 6 and 8 year olds are supposed to work on developing their gross and fine motor skills (e.g. learning to warmup properly, stretch and do some simple exercises) until they are capable of learning the fundamentals of any martial art." CreationDate="2015-12-29T02:23:50.430" UserId="1797" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12302" PostId="5826" Score="0" Text="I have accepted this answer because activity has petered out on it.  If anyone can produce a more compelling video, I will gladly switch.  It is disheartening to me that this seems to be the only real example, and the level of technique demonstrated is so poor.  I am beginning to feel that I should try to see if I can get Aikido to work.  A russian grip --&gt; kotegaeshi combo seems like it might be viable, and I will start training it." CreationDate="2015-12-30T17:19:10.703" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12303" PostId="5826" Score="0" Text="@StevenGubkin I find it useful to A) distinguish Aikido (or any other style) from wristlocks), and B) remember that wristlocks work, but they (and other standing jointlocks) have their own specific impediments to effective training. I actually really like wristlocks and waki-gatame armlocks." CreationDate="2015-12-30T17:44:14.160" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12305" PostId="5856" Score="0" Text="Also, I recommend anyone training high kicking martial arts watch some of Bill &quot;Superfoot&quot; Wallace's videos on stretching. Many clips of his videos are available on Youtube. This is one of my favorites: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxokaEvKnD8" CreationDate="2015-12-31T13:53:18.680" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12306" PostId="5856" Score="2" Text="See also [How do I increase flexibility to achieve a full split?](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/1284/how-do-i-increase-flexibility-to-achieve-a-full-split) [Good exercises for higher side kicks?](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/93/good-exercises-for-higher-side-kicks) [How do I increase hip flexibility for round kicks?](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/287/how-do-i-increase-hip-flexibility-for-round-kicks) [The 180 degree leg split](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/4940/the-180-degree-leg-split)" CreationDate="2015-12-31T16:08:22.377" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12307" PostId="5826" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I use wrist locks quite a bit on the ground, but have not yet found an effective setup on the feet.  The set up I am imagining from the 2 on 1 would be fairly &quot;aikido style&quot;, since it would have the same circular motion in one direction, and the switching direction for the throw with kotegaeshi." CreationDate="2015-12-31T20:02:52.497" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12308" PostId="5856" Score="0" Text="@TheWudangKid I disagree, I think leg/hip stretches that help the best with kicking is pretty specific. My lack of hip flexibility is the reason I stopped doing Sanshou." CreationDate="2015-12-31T20:53:34.770" UserId="6567" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12309" PostId="5846" Score="1" Text="Or, instead of hurting your fists, you can learn to hit them with a planet... (aka judo throw) ;)" CreationDate="2016-01-01T12:53:46.737" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12310" PostId="5840" Score="1" Text="If they like TKD but you feel that they are being ill-served by being promoted simply for &quot;time served&quot; without mastery (by which I mean achieving an appropriately high level of skill in the techniques expected of people at a particular rank), you could find another TKD school that has stricter ranking criteria, or a different scale for kids (they'll need to be re-ranked as middle teenagers)." CreationDate="2016-01-01T20:28:24.207" UserId="698" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12311" PostId="232" Score="0" Text="I see your question is possibly not about the practical applications of kata. This you might regard as a given. It is unclear especially since you regarded an answer as been acceptable. Could you clarify what you are asking? It might be worthwhile." CreationDate="2016-01-02T08:17:55.187" UserId="6585" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12312" PostId="1577" Score="0" Text="Why not get a gun?" CreationDate="2016-01-02T08:27:20.557" UserId="6585" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12313" PostId="5858" Score="0" Text="Regarding your last sentence: I am an examinant for Judo in Germany and we have been told that we should regard the student as still learning so that even if the program wasn't shown perfectly (i.e. barely hit the minimum standard) we should bear in mind that they will grow into that belt. I think this to be nonsense for brown or even more so black belts, but I happen to be part of the minority as it stands." CreationDate="2016-01-02T14:59:47.823" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12314" PostId="5803" Score="0" Text="Brilliant question - if it is about semantics. Of theoretical interest. But it is up to the style to decide. Impossible to imposed from without." CreationDate="2016-01-03T07:33:17.527" UserId="6585" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12317" PostId="5862" Score="1" Text="Very detailed answer. I appreciate this. The Outside Wrist Throw wouldn't work for the reason you stated. No one will just give their wrist, but, the times I have executed have been from a low lapel grip (about chest-height) while still standing up. It's basically the same idea as someone pushing you or shoving you, only their hand is on your chest long enough for you to grab it. This is what had me wondering the most about this. Why havent enough people been attacking that grip?" CreationDate="2016-01-03T16:01:34.990" UserId="6586" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12319" PostId="5863" Score="2" Text="I'm not a Kendo expert, but I think the bulk of the practice deals precisely with that issue - how to counter an opponents strike.  I do train against a Kendoka occasionally, and she is blindingly fast.   There are several opening positions, including Haso kamae  in which the sword is not presented to the opponent, and one of the assumptions of the standard opening position is that if your opponent lifts his blade you will thrust to his throat.  I'll leave it for a ranked Kendoka to provide an accurate answer." CreationDate="2016-01-03T16:59:35.000" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12320" PostId="5862" Score="1" Text="The reason you're able to get it from a lapel grab in class (not in competition, right?), is because people are more relaxed there and are working on what they've been told to work on. They're not expecting it. And most of the colored ranks haven't even seen it before. You're right to at least try it every now and then. Your classmates will improve their grip and strategy because of it. Just realize, though, that at some point this will stop working for you, and you'll find that it will actually cause you more grief than you want later on. So you'll probably abandon it eventually." CreationDate="2016-01-03T20:04:45.903" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12322" PostId="5865" Score="0" Text="BJJ has evolved probably ten-fold since the early days of Gracie Jiu Jitsu. And it has grown that much more due to the influence of other arts. Like you said, leglocks were a big no-no. Now they're not. Then the focus shifted to slicers. Now, not so much. I understand a violent change of direction on the wrist hurts, but it can be trained" CreationDate="2016-01-03T20:26:28.860" UserId="6586" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12323" PostId="5862" Score="0" Text="I definitely recommend getting your instructor in on it. Maybe ask him after class or during question &amp; answer time in class (if you guys do that) if there's something wrong with doing what you're doing. If you can successfully take someone down from a lapel grab using it, then that says your classmates haven't been taught it and don't know to protect against it. It also says their grip needs to be more nuanced for the real world. It's a perfect setup for your instructor to step in and demonstrate to the class what you're doing, what to do to prevent it, and how to use it against you." CreationDate="2016-01-03T20:29:21.947" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12325" PostId="4733" Score="2" Text="Wrist grabs are like anything else: they happen. Like any joint locks, submissions, etc. you don't *look* for them, you *find* them, because the opportunities present themselves throughout actual fights." CreationDate="2016-01-04T00:02:16.450" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12326" PostId="4733" Score="4" Text="@DaveNewton Yes, I have nothing against the idea that you might just happen to find yourself in a situation where a wrist lock is ideal. But the method of training for such a situation is the problem. Aikido spends a ton of time with wrist locks, yet they occur very infrequently in real fights. And when Aikido trains them, the uke is told to extend his arm (commit to it), not resist, go along with it, and try to continue holding on. That isn't realistic. Realistic training of wrist locks is fine with me, and should be encouraged as part of a well-rounded martial arts program." CreationDate="2016-01-04T01:54:21.443" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12328" PostId="5844" Score="0" Text="Any evidence that striking is not good for kids?" CreationDate="2016-01-04T07:55:08.150" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12329" PostId="5858" Score="0" Text="-1 for last sentence. There are intense courses which will give you a black belt in one year, the [Yoshinkan Aikido sensyu course](http://www.yoshinkan.net/03contentsE/course-sensyuE.html) for example. It is the amount of time spend training that counts, not the start/end dates." CreationDate="2016-01-04T07:58:42.650" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12331" PostId="5866" Score="1" Text="While agreeing with your answer in general, I want to add something to the &quot;strong core&quot; point. As an active practitioner of Judo, I can say all of that is true for this art as well. But I found it particularly useful at some point of my development to conciously tensing my &quot;core&quot;. Of course, without becoming stiff as dead fish and losing a movable hip. It improved my stand and by this balance a lot in kuzushi and kake specifically." CreationDate="2016-01-04T14:10:26.800" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12333" PostId="5866" Score="1" Text="Not only biggest muscle group, but gravitational center with the pelvic bone. Another idea related: Lowering the hip may help the OP, too. From experience, a tandem that is too high is one of the main mistakes of students in Judo, effecting balance and effectiveness massively." CreationDate="2016-01-04T14:31:08.830" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12334" PostId="5839" Score="0" Text="Saying WTF &quot;doesn't have forms&quot; is a bit misleading given that you wrote &quot;However, WTF is a valid organization - and federation - and so, it's not appropriate to distinguish between technical differences.&quot;.  If you play fast and loose saying it's OK to use WTF, then given that there are WTF World Poomsae Championships, then the WTF definitely does have forms.  They are the same ones used in Kukkiwon-Taekwondo, in the same way that WTF-rules sparring is used in Kukkiwon Dan gradings." CreationDate="2016-01-04T16:15:12.750" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12335" PostId="5862" Score="5" Text="I would argue Aikido itself is a &quot;low percentage&quot; martial art." CreationDate="2016-01-04T16:52:55.103" UserId="6567" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12336" PostId="5862" Score="1" Text="@Tom I would tend to agree. I go over the strengths and weaknesses of Aikido here: http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/4732/what-are-the-main-uses-of-aikido-in-self-defense/4733#4733" CreationDate="2016-01-04T17:18:15.617" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12337" PostId="5863" Score="0" Text="*&quot;start their sword off in a position where they must draw back&quot;* - what's that got to do with &quot;anticipating&quot; anything?  Do you mean to say they're overly &quot;telegraphed&quot; by the &quot;draw back&quot;?  Keep in mind that a dynamic &quot;draw back&quot; is necessary in many movements in martial arts and sports to create power.  This is really obvious in some motions - try hitting a golf ball if you start with the club held statically at what ought to be the top of your backswing and you'll get dramatically reduced impact.  Google &quot;plyometrics&quot; for some of the sports science behind why a dynamic draw back helps." CreationDate="2016-01-04T23:37:02.443" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12339" PostId="5858" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion We'll just agree to disagree then eh?  McDojos... if anything, the link you provide is a good example of what I'm talking about." CreationDate="2016-01-05T08:45:40.253" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12340" PostId="5858" Score="0" Text="Holy crap, you can even become an &quot;instructor&quot; as well as a black belt with that course... come on @Sardathrion, that's complete nonsense - as is your implication that my last sentence is inaccurate... ESPECIALLY given that we're talking about CHILDREN (how much time do you think they'll be spending doing martial arts in reality??  3 classes a week max).  *sigh*" CreationDate="2016-01-05T08:56:34.507" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12341" PostId="5862" Score="0" Text="Good answer, but should really mention the possibility of injury to an unprepared uke too. (as the other two answers do)" CreationDate="2016-01-05T09:08:56.400" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12342" PostId="3079" Score="0" Text="Systema is more like traditional martial art yes, with much focus on breathing and relaxation techniques to aid recovery and effectiveness" CreationDate="2016-01-05T10:09:05.880" UserId="1551" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12343" PostId="5863" Score="0" Text="kendo it is like modern fencing it is actually a quite recent sport dating from finals of XIX century while HEMA are based on XV century fencing treats (in case of long sword). It is matter of difference between martial art and sport. HEMA teknicks are for killing kendo for competition there is a big difference." CreationDate="2016-01-05T12:36:15.327" UserId="6344" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12344" PostId="5858" Score="0" Text="@Nathan I would consider it quite normal for a black belt to be able to grade some students, and in this case it is only to 4th kyu. So it is hardly worth trying to make a point over the &quot;instructor&quot; accreditation of this particular course. Sardathrion provided evidence of a legitimate well established school that gives you the opportunity to gain a black belt after an 11 month intensive course (they won't give you the belt if you fail the examinations), so maybe you should suspend the overly harsh judgement until you actually meet some of its participants?" CreationDate="2016-01-05T12:55:48.227" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12345" PostId="5870" Score="2" Text="Did OP fail or did her classmates and coach failed her?... It is difficult to tell with the current information." CreationDate="2016-01-05T13:29:15.637" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12346" PostId="5868" Score="0" Text="I think I'd have said &quot;look around for a good instructor&quot;, but I guess &quot;class&quot; and &quot;instructor&quot; go hand in hand!" CreationDate="2016-01-05T16:07:21.943" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12347" PostId="5839" Score="0" Text="Yes, you are right - it does seem contradictory.  But, WTF doesn't have forms, they are simply borrowing from Kukkiwon.  So perhaps I should have said &quot;they don't have their OWN forms&quot;.  That sounds a little like backpeddaling and/or hair splitting.  But WTF never had forms - or even competed with forms - for a very long time.  The introduction of forms under its competition umbrella is a recent concept." CreationDate="2016-01-05T17:17:53.437" UserDisplayName="user6519" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12348" PostId="5839" Score="0" Text="They did try to create 3 new competition-only forms (Bikka and Hanryo come to mind, I forget the other one).  Each form was to be used for the skill level (cadet, junior, master, and senior; at the time, cadet didn't exist, but, as the 3 forms passed out of favor, the cadet level was being introduced, and - rumor has it - they were going to develop a fourth form for them).  So while they attempted to create their own forms, that never happened and so, now, they don't have their forms.  If Kukkiwon changed forms, so would WTF WPC." CreationDate="2016-01-05T17:18:58.187" UserDisplayName="user6519" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12349" PostId="5839" Score="0" Text="I think - just my opinion - if WTF created their own forms, they come closer to becoming their own style.  They currently rely on Kukkiwon to certify dan and instructors, so, they still hold the purse strings, and *are* the style.  But to keep the commentary relevant to the question, I also think that if WTF became a style and used their own forms (like the 3 or 4 they tried to create) then they would be nearly diametrically opposed to ITF, because the 3 forms they did manage to create had less to do with self defense, and more to do with tricking." CreationDate="2016-01-05T17:22:53.323" UserDisplayName="user6519" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12350" PostId="5870" Score="1" Text="@Sard Good question - based on the info given I would say that Sky wasn't suited to the class, therefore the coach didn't fail. Once you enter a high performance or elite program it has to be a meritocracy - a coach should not (in good faith) train someone who is assured of failing at the desired level....." CreationDate="2016-01-05T21:13:02.837" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12351" PostId="5870" Score="1" Text=".... but having said that my aim is not to destroy her hopes, but rather to encourage her to focus her energy in a different and more productive direction. We've all failed at something, the key thing is to recognise and accept then move on." CreationDate="2016-01-05T21:16:32.650" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12352" PostId="5858" Score="0" Text="Ok, so not really an instructor then: we'll ignore that. It's not harsh judgement, let me explain. I don't care if you can pass some exam, you're not a real black belt until you have experience applying your techniques against real opponents... SUCCESSFULLY in competition. And THAT is what takes time, regardless of how much you practice, there are only so many competitions that *any* body can endure in a year and it's not enough... this is about standards. See what I mean now? So, let these ppl wear their one or two year &quot;black&quot; belts, but at least don't humour their delusion." CreationDate="2016-01-06T01:13:16.610" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12354" PostId="5858" Score="0" Text="@slugster PS, I say the above with no pride: after only a few years of competitive judo experience, I very much count myself as at the lower end of the ability spectrum, I am nothing special. I have however had the pleasure of being &quot;reminded&quot; of my insignificant ability by some (literally) world-class judoka and have spoken with them at length as to how they came to their knowledge and the one thing they consistently mention is time served on the mat, aka experience." CreationDate="2016-01-06T01:34:23.100" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12355" PostId="5858" Score="0" Text="@slugster PPS, What are your thoughts on this topic regarding children?" CreationDate="2016-01-06T01:37:20.383" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12356" PostId="5870" Score="0" Text="That is indeed what I thought you were driving at!" CreationDate="2016-01-06T07:13:24.467" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12357" PostId="5868" Score="0" Text="@MikeP: Good point. Lemme rephrase that." CreationDate="2016-01-06T07:13:52.930" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12359" PostId="5858" Score="0" Text="@Nathan my thoughts are that there is a massive difference between a junior black belt and a senior black belt :) I've also seen many parents have unrealistic goals for their children (not that I'm implying that's the case here). I can understand why this question has been asked, I just don't think it can be answered in any practicable way." CreationDate="2016-01-06T09:32:55.907" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12360" PostId="5858" Score="0" Text="@slugster Indeed, it's a tough one." CreationDate="2016-01-06T10:02:04.420" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12362" PostId="5877" Score="0" Text="See related question here: http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/501/347" CreationDate="2016-01-06T11:34:59.160" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12363" PostId="5877" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Thanks, your answer there is very helpful (though it's worth noting that two out of the three links no longer work)." CreationDate="2016-01-06T11:50:09.720" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12364" PostId="5877" Score="1" Text="I updated the epistemic viciousness PDF link. https://gilliankrussell.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/epistemicviciousness.pdf Judoinfo may be temporarily down; not sure." CreationDate="2016-01-06T12:18:42.927" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12365" PostId="5878" Score="4" Text="&quot;A strike [to a valve of the carotid artery on the neck] will cause unconsiousness.&quot; How do you know this? How reliable is this effect in live implementation?" CreationDate="2016-01-06T12:28:33.897" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12366" PostId="5877" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Thanks: a very interesting read.  If you duplicate your answer there to this question, I will gladly accept it: and hopefully it will then be a bit easier to find (for me, looking at the existing related/suggested items, the mention of a specific technique in the existing question guided me away from what is a very good, general purpose answer)" CreationDate="2016-01-06T13:36:04.653" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12367" PostId="5878" Score="0" Text="Video evidence in my case, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSkD7BPpVK4 and very reliable.  The body responds in the same way as if it had been blood choked/strangled (whatever you want to call it.  I'm surprised you question this tbh as I thought this particular point was common knowledge among martial artists of all kinds.  My instructors used to do this for demonstrations." CreationDate="2016-01-06T14:01:58.200" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12368" PostId="5878" Score="3" Text="I assume you mean the knockout at 1:00. Honestly it looks fishy to me in two ways: 1) uke does a *break fall* while supposedly unconscious, and doesn't exhibit any of the telltale behaviors of a person knocked out (e.g. stiffness, fencing response), suggesting he may actually just be falling for his teacher. 2) Hitting a defenseless opponent tells us **nothing** about my question, which is implementation against a live, resisting opponent in a chaotic situation. The example at 1:35 is not much better. This is fakery and tomfoolery." CreationDate="2016-01-06T14:54:09.970" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12369" PostId="5878" Score="0" Text="There is a reason there is more to the martial art than just learning these points.  You can't just know where it is you have to be able to take the points offered to you by the opponent's attack.  That's why it's a martial art not an anatomy class.  Obviously the student's here are not completely 'knocked out'.  (those are not breakfalls as taught in any style though)" CreationDate="2016-01-06T15:06:55.297" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12370" PostId="5878" Score="1" Text="It's a forward roll. Which unconscious people tend not to do." CreationDate="2016-01-06T15:10:38.323" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12371" PostId="5878" Score="3" Text="@HuwEvans: At 1:00 it looks like standard mae-mawari-ukemi to me (Judo, Aikido, Jiu-Jitsu)" CreationDate="2016-01-06T15:18:42.453" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12372" PostId="5878" Score="0" Text="He also moves his head once he is on the floor.  As I said he is not completely unconscious (the second one probably is).  What he has *not* done is fall over for no reason.  There is no culture of that in this style.  If anyone did this the instructor would tell them not to.  This technique causes decrease in blood supply to the brain.  It's not a concussion.  I never said it was." CreationDate="2016-01-06T15:23:22.197" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12373" PostId="5878" Score="1" Text="I didn't say it was a concussion, but you're right that we wouldn't see a fencing response in a choke-out as opposed to a KO. But the point remains that he did a forward roll instead of falling over unconscious like someone choked out, which leads me to ask: if you admit he's not rendered unconscious, then what *is* the effect of the technique?" CreationDate="2016-01-06T15:25:50.757" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12374" PostId="5878" Score="0" Text="I hesitate to do this but try cutting off the blood supply to one side of your head for say 5 seconds.  You are a martial artist (BJJ?) so you should know how to do this.  That's basically what he would have felt." CreationDate="2016-01-06T15:28:20.107" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12375" PostId="5878" Score="1" Text="That doesn't test the technique in question. A test for the technique in question would be to chop someone like me in the neck. I'd prefer to wear a mouthpiece and be allowed to defend myself. This is my point: you have no basis of knowledge for the statement I quoted in my first comment." CreationDate="2016-01-06T15:32:11.547" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12376" PostId="5878" Score="0" Text="There are two sepparate issues here and you are not helping my mixing them up.  1) does hitting that point have an effect? (and if so what) 2) can it really be done in  a fight?  Calling into question the first seems pretty silly to me.  It's a staple strike of karate as well as shorinji kempo.  I have even met MMA people who know the method.  My own instructors have been knocked unconsious (yes actually unconsious) in this way and suffered concussion from the resulting fall.  I have personally used it in judo obviously not by striking but by pressing on the point until my opponent tapped." CreationDate="2016-01-06T15:39:37.870" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12377" PostId="5878" Score="1" Text="That's why I quoted you, and then asked two questions. The first corresponds to your point 1. The second corresponds to your point 2." CreationDate="2016-01-06T15:43:19.757" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12378" PostId="5878" Score="2" Text="Let us [continue this discussion in chat](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/33922/discussion-between-huw-evans-and-dave-liepmann)." CreationDate="2016-01-06T15:46:13.220" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12379" PostId="5881" Score="0" Text="Also WW2 has some pretty interesting examples: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Wake &quot;During a 1990s television interview, when asked what had happened to the sentry who spotted her, Wake simply drew her finger across her throat. &quot;They'd taught this judo-chop stuff with the flat of the hand at SOE, and I practised away at it. But this was the only time I used it – whack – and it killed him all right. I was really surprised.&quot;  Or this vet's description of knife defense in WW2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDGHKyB3T_U" CreationDate="2016-01-06T18:09:38.147" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12380" PostId="5839" Score="1" Text="Bikak and hanryu were the names, but I don't remember a third. I don't think WTF wants to become their own style though, they are an international sports organisation. Also, as I understand it, you can now get WTF Global Athlete Licences (GAL) without having a Kukkiwon dan certificate, so now there is even more of a split between the two rather than WTF relying on Kukkiwon in any way." CreationDate="2016-01-06T18:35:13.820" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12381" PostId="5863" Score="0" Text="That's not true what you said about not drawing back for martial arts like boxing or mma, even hema. You can see that they start km any stance where there hands are ready to punch from that position and they do not have to draw back, although they're a couple exceptions like upper cuts. This is what I'm talking about." CreationDate="2016-01-06T21:24:40.963" UserId="6587" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12382" PostId="5863" Score="0" Text="This is simply what I mean" CreationDate="2016-01-06T21:27:11.897" UserId="6587" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12383" PostId="5863" Score="0" Text="https://youtu.be/oTJ5W_MTeiI" CreationDate="2016-01-06T21:27:18.990" UserId="6587" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12384" PostId="5884" Score="0" Text="As I understand it, when unconscious but still standing, you tend to fall back on reflexes, so I'd thinking that the key would be to train combinations in reaction to attacks over and over again until it's automatic." CreationDate="2016-01-06T23:37:59.843" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12386" PostId="5879" Score="0" Text="By the way, interesting thing to note about the spear-handed strike in karate: It's not a strike with the tips of the fingers. It's a strike with the knife-edge of the hand. Your other arm is performing a standing arm-bar on your opponent (similar to a kimura), and as you do that you're coming to the side of your opponent, standing perpendicular to him. Then you bend him over with the leverage of your arm-bar, so he's sort of bowing. Then you do a downward knife-hand strike (your spear-hand strike is actually a knife-edge strike) to the base of his skull for a knock-out." CreationDate="2016-01-07T03:11:06.960" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12387" PostId="5868" Score="0" Text="I agree to a point, but with caution.The 2 years time frame matches the period when the intellectual development begins to outstrip the physical skills development (aka green belt disease), and students are beginning to see things that they were not aware of previously.  She may be feeling down because she IS advancing, and is to the point she is seeing faults she was not aware of before." CreationDate="2016-01-07T04:16:49.680" UserId="6599" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12388" PostId="5851" Score="0" Text="Clarification: different systems of karate use the body differently.  Shotokan and its direct derivatives tend to use the square shoulders as you suggest, but many flavors of shorin ryu and their direct derivatives use a lot of hip movement, and also have the whiplike movements." CreationDate="2016-01-07T04:23:58.003" UserId="6599" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12389" PostId="5851" Score="0" Text="&quot;Effectiveness&quot; is a vague term in this context - a push is effective at moving a body, but not as effective at causing damage.  The real concern for inflicting damage is energy transfer, which is (force * distance)/time, which through algebraic transformations is also 1/2 * mass * (velocity squared).  The momentum transfer of a bullet (recoil of a gun) doesn't do much damage because the energy transferred is too low, But the bullet with the same momentum does a lot of damage because it has much more energy." CreationDate="2016-01-07T04:29:37.000" UserId="6599" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12390" PostId="5729" Score="3" Text="I will add that when the average life expectancy was 40 years, you didn't worry about what your joints were like at 50. Those old school martial artists trained they way they did because they (a) were fighting for their lives, and (b) didn't expect to live long enough that the long term damage would be an issue.  With the longevity that people enjoy today, the issues of long term damage are important to consider." CreationDate="2016-01-07T04:36:23.923" UserId="6599" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12391" PostId="5732" Score="2" Text="Hironiri Ohtsuka Sr. was an orthopedic surgeon, and founder of the Wado school of karate.  He felt strongly enough about this that he formally removed a lot of the traditional impact exercises that damaged bone from his system, as useless training that harmed the body.  Sorry, I have nothing to back this up except oral history." CreationDate="2016-01-07T04:43:52.310" UserId="6599" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12392" PostId="1384" Score="0" Text="I hold rank in karate, and my wife holds rank in both TKD and karate.  It isn't a style thing, but an individual school/club thing.  Check out the local schools and see how they spar.  History lesson, TKD is originally derived from shotokan karate.  The Won Hyo form, as performed by General Choi (founder of TKD), is almost exactly the shotokan flavor of heian nidan." CreationDate="2016-01-07T05:22:34.697" UserId="6599" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12393" PostId="5840" Score="0" Text="You will find that the 6 year old's black belt is equivalent to a much lower rank when they get a bit older. I have seen exactly one 12 year old that could live up to the black belt, but never a 6 year old.  I don't think you need to be asking which system so much as which school.  I remember many kids who had earned &quot;junior black belts&quot; and started comingto my school, and how frustrated they were when they were not quite on a par with my yellow belts." CreationDate="2016-01-07T05:32:36.710" UserId="6599" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12394" PostId="5732" Score="0" Text="@pojo-guy Oh, that's very interesting! Thanks for sharing that." CreationDate="2016-01-07T06:11:32.527" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12395" PostId="5884" Score="1" Text="I would use bold, emphasis, and large font on that last paragraph..." CreationDate="2016-01-07T08:53:31.900" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12396" PostId="4415" Score="0" Text="@JuannStrauss you not need to be that disgusting XD. But it is true human bite it is not a joke we have strong muscles there heritage of your apes ancestors it is enough to get through jugular or a finger... there is a chance to give a infection as there is bacteria that live in human spit. There are different techniques not involving biting (press points for example) you can learn self defense for that." CreationDate="2016-01-07T10:39:01.797" UserId="6344" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12397" PostId="5884" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the answer Dave! I just didn't get the second part. How could cardio simulate the situation of being puched? I don't know if I understood correctly what you said. Thanks!" CreationDate="2016-01-07T10:57:22.970" UserId="5606" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12398" PostId="5884" Score="1" Text="@ElMynx One of the biggest effects of taking hits, whether to the body or head, is exhaustion. Having a big gas tank and experience fighting through fatigue is critical." CreationDate="2016-01-07T10:59:53.863" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12400" PostId="5851" Score="0" Text="Yes, that's right, but there are two ways of causing damage as well.  If you transfer momentum to the head you can cause a concussion.  If you transfer energy to anywhere you can cause bruises and the like." CreationDate="2016-01-07T14:27:56.403" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12401" PostId="5862" Score="0" Text="Aikido aside, are wristlocks really seen in BJJ as low-percentage? I'm not sure I think that's true, or if I know exactly why BJJ doesn't prioritize them. I certainly think wrist locks (but not usually wristlock *throws*) are fine techniques in some scenarios." CreationDate="2016-01-07T14:35:13.557" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12402" PostId="5864" Score="0" Text="This doesn't seem right to me.  You can do a wrist lock slowly and still get someone to fall.  It's about technique not speed." CreationDate="2016-01-07T15:52:17.457" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12403" PostId="5839" Score="0" Text="Right again!  The reason they moved in this way was to attract competitors from other styles, short-circuiting Kukkiwon.  Perhaps there are others; but clearly, they (WTF) did not want to delegate certification from Kukkiwon, who is known for taking their time.  &#xA;&#xA;I don't know one way or another if WTF wants to become a style, but clearly, they are distancing themselves away from KKW.  They are asserting their own licenses to compete, whereas before, you tended to had to have some certification from KKW.  With this move, if KKW disappeared off the face of the earth, WTF would continue." CreationDate="2016-01-07T17:31:07.013" UserDisplayName="user6519" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12404" PostId="5887" Score="0" Text="Hi, Doug! VERY interesting idea. I'll search for more information about this. Actually, the first step for me is to learn how to do a somersault lol. But, the idea is what I'm looking for. Thank you!" CreationDate="2016-01-07T17:38:02.323" UserId="5606" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12405" PostId="5887" Score="1" Text="If you try it let us know how well it works." CreationDate="2016-01-07T17:41:29.947" UserId="4267" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12406" PostId="5862" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I suppose anything can become your bread and butter and can be turned into a high percentage technique if you train it enough. It may just be that most people haven't trained it enough to be good at it, and maybe that's why it's low percentage for most people. Lots of BJJ black belts have made an effort to train wrist locks to a high degree of reliability. But then, maybe that's only because all their other stuff is good enough that they can deliver wrist locks reliably or know which situations are optimal for wrist locks and which aren't. You have to talk with them." CreationDate="2016-01-07T18:30:53.783" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12407" PostId="1655" Score="0" Text="The linked source has some good ideas about grounding and relaxation, but it does not seem like the author understands moment-of-inertia or angular momentum. This is also about the physics of punching, not what makes a martial art internal or external." CreationDate="2016-01-07T21:36:07.907" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12408" PostId="5882" Score="0" Text="The internal/external classification should not be the same as soft/hard. Judo, for example, uses the redirection of force and off-balancing (soft) to execute throws rather than use concussive strikes (hard), but is external (no mind or breathing training). Bagua and xingyi use concussive strikes (hard), but are internal." CreationDate="2016-01-07T21:37:39.457" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12409" PostId="5882" Score="0" Text="@mattm The central thesis of Kennedy &amp; Guo's point, which is backed up by history and current fact, is that internal/external is not a valid distinction.  I'll add some more to explain the political origins of the grouping, which makes it clear how nonsensical and useless the dichotomy is." CreationDate="2016-01-07T22:18:56.963" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12410" PostId="5220" Score="0" Text="Unfortunately these are ex-post-facto explanations. It's also a good example of how the internal/external dichotomy, instead of being an objective grouping, is just another marketing method for the arts marking themselves as &quot;internal&quot;. In each of your points, &quot;external&quot; is a straw man to be improved upon, not a valid training method in its own right." CreationDate="2016-01-08T09:30:11.653" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12411" PostId="5882" Score="0" Text="Objectively, the classical internal martial arts have a strong early (and continuing) emphasis on non-martial activities like breathing, standing, walking in circles, and moving slowly. Considerations of effectiveness aside, it's appropriate to label this training approach because it is not easily explainable to a Western observer. Even if you think all martial arts end up in the same place, the path is quite different, especially at the beginning. This kind of training may be positive/neutral/negative depending on your perspective, but it is definitely a difference." CreationDate="2016-01-08T14:33:02.687" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12412" PostId="5882" Score="0" Text="@mattm Perhaps you should read the specific examples in my post again. Hung gar has exercises you describe as &quot;internal&quot;, as does BJJ, judo, many karate styles, and others. But the internal/external terminology was *created* specifically to promote three specific arts. When used to refer to styles it is a marketing term; when used to refer to practices it is vague and often leads to magical thinking." CreationDate="2016-01-08T14:43:41.750" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12413" PostId="5882" Score="0" Text="I'm sorry, that was more rude than I intended. I think we may be talking past each other. I'm partial to the historical definition of &quot;internal&quot;; if someone uses the term to refer to particular practices I find it less than useful because of its vagueness." CreationDate="2016-01-08T14:51:01.130" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12414" PostId="5888" Score="1" Text="That is a practical suggestion." CreationDate="2016-01-08T17:59:43.810" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12415" PostId="5839" Score="0" Text="I wouldn't say Kukkiwon is known for taking their time. A lot of people have that image of the Kukkiwon, but those of us who deal directly with Kukkiwon know it's not the case.  Over the past 5 years I've been issuing Kukkiwon Dan certificates, they've never taken over 6 weeks from application and generally 4 weeks.  They are processed on the 5th and 20th of each month, they take a week to be produced and are then sent DHL worldwide from Korea.  Honestly, if there's a delay in getting Kukkiwon's it's the applier responsible, not Kukkiwon." CreationDate="2016-01-08T18:51:56.723" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12416" PostId="5838" Score="0" Text="I agree, not to mention there are lots of typos making it very difficult to read.  Including &quot;Tae Kyon&quot; which is a non-existent martial art - they meant &quot;Taek Kyon&quot;. This would imply it's the same character as Taekwondo (태) but its not (택)." CreationDate="2016-01-08T18:53:44.040" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12417" PostId="5891" Score="1" Text="Why do you not ask your dentist? Surely, they will have more idea about that than a bunch of strangers on the Internet regardless of the amount of fake internet points they have?" CreationDate="2016-01-09T11:37:05.003" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12418" PostId="26" Score="0" Text="Very important here is to use a strong thread.  Then use lots of small stitches." CreationDate="2016-01-09T12:55:18.903" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12419" PostId="5891" Score="2" Text="Possible duplicate of [How to fit a gumshield it some teeth are missing](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/5504/how-to-fit-a-gumshield-it-some-teeth-are-missing)" CreationDate="2016-01-09T15:49:08.780" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12420" PostId="5864" Score="2" Text="@HuwEvans  If you think that you can reliably &quot;take someones balance&quot; with the wristlock, in a technical way, which does not put the opponent in danger, then I would ask you to film some sparring matches and put the results on my other question..." CreationDate="2016-01-09T22:00:22.447" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12421" PostId="5862" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand There are a lot of positions in BJJ where you have a limb totally isolated, but they are able to defend the submission by positioning themselves in some way.  In these cases, a wrist lock is often available, and is very high percentage because the limb is already isolated." CreationDate="2016-01-09T22:02:40.537" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12422" PostId="5864" Score="0" Text="It's actually something I've been meaning to do for a while.  This is not the first time I have come across this misconception.  I'll do it when I can but it's not going to be soon.  It's hard for me to get to training at the moment." CreationDate="2016-01-10T00:55:34.613" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12423" PostId="5864" Score="1" Text="Question:  if the wristlock throw is about taking balance, and not about avoiding injury, then why do you need to bend the wrist?  Could you not throw someone with the same mechanics just by holding their wrist without bending it?" CreationDate="2016-01-10T00:58:09.593" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12424" PostId="5864" Score="0" Text="Shorinji kempo has an advanced technique called ippon seo nage (not to be confused with the judo technique) which does just this.  However it is much more difficult than an actual wrist lock so much so that I would never try to use this in a fight, but some people who are better than me might.  The technique involves taking hold of the wrist and then throwing the opponent over your shoulder while applying an arm bar.  The reason you lock the wrist is that you can take advantage of some ways that the arm will not move.  ie, you lock the wrist and the elbow together to apply leverage." CreationDate="2016-01-10T21:00:02.683" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12425" PostId="5864" Score="0" Text="This video shows several different ways of doing the wrist-lock called kote gaeshi in most jujutsu styles.  (we call it gyaku gote) Notice that some of the methods cause pain while others are purely balance based.  https://youtu.be/qpPFwBdyMZg I know it's not a sparring video but I doubt you would be able to appreciate what was happening if (when) I post a sparing video without having seen this first." CreationDate="2016-01-10T21:23:42.717" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12426" PostId="5864" Score="1" Text="@HuwEvans I believe that in each case, if uke was willing to have his wrist broken, he would not have to move." CreationDate="2016-01-11T05:56:09.653" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12427" PostId="5893" Score="1" Text="Why do you not ask your dentist? Surely, they will have more idea about that than a bunch of strangers on the Internet regardless of the amount of fake internet points they have?" CreationDate="2016-01-11T08:03:44.783" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12428" PostId="5893" Score="1" Text="Lol, I asked my orthodontist and they didn't know." CreationDate="2016-01-11T10:21:27.213" UserId="6587" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12429" PostId="5894" Score="1" Text="They definitely exist (http://www.animated-teeth.com/mouthguards/a1-mouth-guards.htm). Funnily enough, searching for &quot;double mouthgards&quot; immediately brings up ads for a specific product for braces, but I don't know enough to recommend them or not." CreationDate="2016-01-11T13:51:27.450" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12430" PostId="5864" Score="0" Text="That is not the case.  Some of these methods apply no pain and little pressure the the wrist.  take the one at 2:03 for example.  There is no risk of breaking the wrist whatsoever here.  He is just being pulled along by clever placement of the elbow." CreationDate="2016-01-11T15:06:45.317" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12431" PostId="5864" Score="1" Text="The one at 2:03 seems fake to me.  It seems to operate on the same principle as no touch throws.  It is probably difficult to continue this discussion without actually meeting in person." CreationDate="2016-01-11T17:26:20.323" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12432" PostId="5844" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/99/1/134 the risk with striking is head trauma. There isn't anything wrong with teaching striking techniques as long as the kids aren't sparing. You could spar without head strikes, but head strikes are extremely effective, so it would be difficult to reach mastery without allowing them." CreationDate="2016-01-11T17:39:58.200" UserId="6567" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12433" PostId="5864" Score="0" Text="I don't know about these 'know touch throws'.  That sounds unlikely to work.  However I know this is real, because I can do this particular one myself.  I could even show you how to do it given time.  it seems that you are not yet familiar enough with wrist-locks to understand what can be done.  They are more versatile then you think." CreationDate="2016-01-11T18:45:39.987" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12434" PostId="5864" Score="0" Text="http://www.page.sannet.ne.jp/unix/md/_eng/hiden/hiden-e.pdf This link explains how to do this kind of technique.  It's about adding momentum or angular momentum to the push or pull or twist of an attack to leave the attacker off balance.  These are almost exclusively defensive techniques for this reason." CreationDate="2016-01-11T19:10:00.863" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12435" PostId="5862" Score="0" Text="These explanations all seem very biased against &quot;wrist lock&quot; techniques in general.  There is a lot more to wrist manipulation than is suggested here.  The strength of two arms against one on a wrist joint can be very effective and quickly leave an opponent too off balance to do anything let alone punch or grab.  That makes good odds does it not?  The issues you suggest here (risk of breaking bone, not working against resisting attacker) are beginner problems.  If you are wearing clothing and it gets grabbed wrist locks are valuable tools." CreationDate="2016-01-11T19:28:38.220" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12436" PostId="5864" Score="1" Text="@HuwEvans  Out of curiosity, why do you think that this sort of technique is absent from Judo, Wrestling, Bjj, Sambo, and other grappling arts?  Without torquing the wrist, it would seem to not violate any rules.   The only arts advocating such techniques seem not to spar with fully resisting opponents.   Until I feel it myself, I will have to maintain my scepticism." CreationDate="2016-01-11T19:41:44.947" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12437" PostId="5864" Score="0" Text="There are several reasons.  It WAS in traditional jujutsu but was taken out of Judo for saftey reasons.  You CAN break the elbow if you get it wrong (that would go before the wrist joint I think).  So far as I know it is legal in Sambo and BJJ but you have to learn it against a non resisting partner before  you can do it against a resisting one.  There is no motivation in a combat sport to allow your friend to learn this.  wrestling + sambo they tend not to wear much.  The opportunities for most of these kind of techniques are when your clothing is grabbed." CreationDate="2016-01-11T19:59:06.723" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12438" PostId="5864" Score="0" Text="If you want to have this done so you can feel it then go to ANY WSKO dojo/doin.  The organisation has it's flaws, but the techniques work and any instructor could demonstrate it on you." CreationDate="2016-01-11T20:03:31.377" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12439" PostId="5862" Score="0" Text="@HuwEvans What you said is all good in theory. As I point out, it's rarely done in competition. To be in a position where you can take time out to crank on a wrist, you first need to be really good in everything else. Which I think is why this is less common in colored belts rather than the black belt ranks in BJJ. In Tomiki aikido and Hapkido competition, too, we don't see a lot of successful wrist manipulation, especially not the wrist lock throw. It's trickier than it appears. And just because you have the wrist by two hands, it doesn't mean you will very quickly submit your opponent." CreationDate="2016-01-11T20:08:49.727" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12440" PostId="5864" Score="2" Text="@HuwEvans  Unfortunately, it would seem that the nearest WSKO school is several hundred miles away from me.  In any event, I think the burden of proof is on those making extraordinary claims.  There are ample forums to prove the efficacy of these techniques.  Simply enroll in BJJ, Judo, or Sambo tournaments locally, in the white belt division, and see if you can score such a takedown.  This would be a huge service to your art." CreationDate="2016-01-11T20:14:53.887" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12441" PostId="5862" Score="0" Text="What do you mean &quot;take time out to crank a wrist?&quot; That's just not how it works.  They grab your clothing and push/pull and you use that movement.  If it doesn't work you do something else but you are hardly &quot;taking time out&quot; to do it.  You seem to imply that the technique has no effect at all if it doesn't threaten to break the wrist and put them on the floor, but that's not true.  It will always either destablise the attacker or pin them in place.  You don't grab the wrist and crank.  You let them give you the wrist.  Just like you don't choose to strangle, you wait for the opportunity." CreationDate="2016-01-11T20:20:19.883" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12442" PostId="5864" Score="1" Text="Also, in Sambo they wear gi tops, so there are plenty of grips to attack." CreationDate="2016-01-11T20:21:48.123" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12443" PostId="5864" Score="0" Text="Why? No-one in kempo cares about competitions.  SK has had people enter MMA and japanese open competitions.  Hiroshi Aosaka for example entered (and won) many competitions.  To me this is just the propagation of ignorance I don't see how me entering a competition of any kind would help." CreationDate="2016-01-11T20:30:37.933" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12444" PostId="5862" Score="0" Text="There are a number of scenarios where the wrist can be manipulated. One is the lapel grab that you described. The other is the case BJJ tends to use it in, which is when you've established position on the ground and have control over your opponent. Then you're in a position to apply the wrist crank, but it usually isn't immediate and requires a struggle even if you have two hands cranking on his wrist. The lapel grab to outer wrist lock throw is something else. But it too has this problem. All it takes is for someone to make a fist for that wrist lock to be thwarted...." CreationDate="2016-01-11T20:50:50.833" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12445" PostId="5862" Score="0" Text="... Making a tight lapel grab thwarts the wrist lock. In competition, that's going to be the problem with the standing lapel grab to outer wrist lock throw defense. You won't see flimsy grips in competition, just in class. Same goes for real life. What I'm saying is that it's more likely than you might think that you're going to have to struggle even with two handed wrist locks. But then, you can always sense that it's not working out and let go quickly. I'm just saying be conscious of that fact. Struggling with this while not having secured your opponent is a bad idea." CreationDate="2016-01-11T21:00:24.863" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12446" PostId="5864" Score="2" Text="@HuwEvans Without a competition, there is no way to know what works and what does not work.  If you claim that you can use these techniques on resisting opponents, then the only way to back up that claim is to do so publically.  This is the definition of a competition.  By saying no one in kempo cares about competitions, you are saying no one cares about proving the efficacy of their techniques.  Best of luck in your martial arts journey." CreationDate="2016-01-11T21:10:32.787" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12447" PostId="5864" Score="0" Text="That is Hiroshi Aosaka's attitude, so he went into some competitions.  The founder (his teacher) disagreed but let him enter because at least this way he wasn't beating up the other students.  We DO have competitions inside Shorinji Kempo (It's not a big part of the style though) but you don't catch me saying BJJ or Thai Boxing doesn't work because they would loose this competition.  This is just becoming an argument about how martial arts advertise and what philosophy they have.  Not what works and what doesn't." CreationDate="2016-01-11T21:38:51.207" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12448" PostId="5864" Score="0" Text="Also note that historically martial arts involving wrist locks have been all but stamped out in japan as part of the american military rule and prior as part of the nationalist movement.  In china the cultural revolution similarly removed many martial styles from existence.  The martial arts that survived this were basically those that could claim to be something else.  Both in china and in japan.  So we have Aikido, shinto ryu and shorinji kempo (all small religious groups) we have judo and BJJ a judo derivative which are sports we have the western styles like boxing." CreationDate="2016-01-11T21:52:21.703" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12449" PostId="5864" Score="1" Text="Let us [continue this discussion in chat](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/34163/discussion-between-steven-gubkin-and-huw-evans)." CreationDate="2016-01-11T22:19:32.270" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12450" PostId="5894" Score="0" Text="Ok but thanks anyway" CreationDate="2016-01-12T01:09:45.633" UserId="6587" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12451" PostId="5844" Score="0" Text="Could you add said reference and added comments to your answer? Thanks." CreationDate="2016-01-12T07:25:45.653" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12452" PostId="694" Score="0" Text="I think you mean Tuls if you refer to ITF patterns." CreationDate="2016-01-13T09:22:51.040" UserId="1797" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12453" PostId="5238" Score="0" Text="She's a good example of judo application without the gi, but counterpoint: she spent substantial time training *without the gi* to transition her skills to MMA." CreationDate="2016-01-13T20:02:22.230" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12454" PostId="4656" Score="0" Text="As we are talking about Judo here, it should be noted that &quot;kimura&quot; is actually gyaku-ude-garami. Apart from that, I endorse that a judoka that never experienced no gi applications will have to adapt in the situation, no matter how weĺl he got the idea of the technique. It changes things. But it does not make a bad fighter out of him, because adaption to movement of and control over another body is what Judo is about." CreationDate="2016-01-13T22:40:46.833" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12455" PostId="5896" Score="2" Text="What were the experiences with men in that class? How long did they come, did they ever adress it, did you ever adress it? It would help if you could add some of this and your feelings about it, otherwise the answer has to be very broad and general." CreationDate="2016-01-13T22:45:10.587" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12456" PostId="5896" Score="1" Text="I don't have a direct answer to your question, but I would just like to say that there is nothing wrong for a man to take martial arts classes from a woman. As an instructor you must keep your distance from the male students, like how a male instructor keeps his distance from the female students. Students must always have the passion to learn above everything else, and the instructor must always be willing to teach." CreationDate="2016-01-14T05:15:31.133" UserId="1797" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12457" PostId="5900" Score="2" Text="[This article](http://m.jap.physiology.org/content/112/3/396) seems to proof that the mechanism ongoing has actually *few to nothing* to do with baroreceptors, but does not even consider what I said, although, especially considering the measurement installment, the data may also be interpreted the way I described it. Or that's what I can make out of it." CreationDate="2016-01-14T08:56:26.497" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12458" PostId="5896" Score="1" Text="While sexism may be an issue, I think the style that you teach and the culture of the area in which you teach may play a role here as well.  Is it a wrestling style or a striking style for example.  I will admit I find ground drills with women embarrassing although any other kind of training with women doesn't bother me at all.  As for culture, is there much integration between men and women in daily life generally where you are?" CreationDate="2016-01-14T09:36:41.310" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12459" PostId="5900" Score="1" Text="Blood pressure may not have been affected by the choke, that is correct. It doesn't have to be. What matters is that the Vagus nerve triggers a signal to the brain saying that the blood pressure has spiked too high. The Vagus nerve can be tricked into doing this by simply compressing it, stretching it, or striking it. The actual blood pressure is not necessarily increasing for it to send a &quot;high blood pressure&quot; signal to the brain. At least this is how I think it works in many cases. It might not explain all cases." CreationDate="2016-01-14T18:40:14.507" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12460" PostId="5900" Score="0" Text="This is exactly what they looked for and they falsified this theory." CreationDate="2016-01-14T19:21:09.833" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12461" PostId="5900" Score="3" Text="No, they didn't look at the Vagus nerve firing. They merely took blood pressure measurements. But what they did show was one way the blood choke can work, which is by restriction of blood flow. That doesn't explain all of the cases where someone faints due to blood choke. It explains the chokes that take 5, 10, 15 seconds to work. It doesn't explain the ones that work instantaneously. And we know that strikes to the Vagus nerve causes people to faint also. There appear to be two mechanisms." CreationDate="2016-01-14T19:52:22.080" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12468" PostId="5905" Score="0" Text="-1. Anecdotal evidence is worth nothing." CreationDate="2016-01-15T12:32:57.670" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12470" PostId="5906" Score="0" Text="It would be helpful to be more specific about the tracker you're using." CreationDate="2016-01-15T16:27:59.177" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12474" PostId="5908" Score="1" Text="Welcome to Martial Arts. Although I appreciate your feedback, you answer doesn't seem to really answer the question. Why would other men feel uncomfortable taking classes from a female instructor?" CreationDate="2016-01-17T06:21:59.527" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12475" PostId="5908" Score="2" Text="As an addition to the comment of @THelper: We do have a group with women only and we do not know which art it is. As previously pointed out, it is a difference between e.g. Karate or TKD and Judo, BJJ or wrestling when it comes to training and sparring with women. I think this should rather be made a comment." CreationDate="2016-01-17T11:10:14.120" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12476" PostId="5909" Score="0" Text="First, thanks for the answer. Second, perhaps my perceptions regarding the uselessness of neck muscles are quite different because I am a judoka and &quot;trained&quot; in being choked (plus, neck muscle training is regularly part of our warmup), but I take your point. And last but not least, I will wait till friday with my acceptance, but this seems a good, sourced candidate for it, therefore +1." CreationDate="2016-01-17T21:14:38.923" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12481" PostId="5911" Score="1" Text="While there is a good answer in there, the current tone is a little aggressive for my liking.  Could you perhaps rephrase a little? Again, a reference would be nice but if it's your Sifu's opinion it might be hard to get an external source." CreationDate="2016-01-19T08:10:42.813" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12486" PostId="5912" Score="2" Text="Tae-kwon-do had a huge impact on my boy, from his daily encounters with aggressive kids at school, to his daily play with his mates. He is more assertive now, than ever, and stands his ground, firmly. I would hate to wreck that with the wrong decision." CreationDate="2016-01-19T11:10:49.317" UserId="6638" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12487" PostId="5910" Score="3" Text="This reads like a rant and doesn't answer the question." CreationDate="2016-01-19T12:25:45.360" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12488" PostId="5912" Score="3" Text="@salaxi - You might get better feedback from the Parenting stack exchange. The archives there have a good discussion on appropriate age to start martial arts http://parenting.stackexchange.com/questions/1425/what-age-is-it-appropriate-to-start-martial-arts/16311#16311 and any number of questions dealing with crying." CreationDate="2016-01-19T12:37:06.617" UserId="4267" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12489" PostId="5911" Score="1" Text="Certainly.  No disrespect intended toward the monks.  I'm sure they train hard to do what they do.  But it is historical fact that much of the Kung Fu in China was lost when the Communists took over and killed off most of the masters in 1949, banned the practice if Kung Fu, and burned down temples.  Kung Fu was associated with ruffians and considered a taboo practice.  Practitioners were call &quot;gong fu fei jai&quot; (Kung fu gangsters).  While there may well be temples practising traditional kung fu, the temples in the tourist areas are very much tourist attractions." CreationDate="2016-01-19T12:37:27.317" UserId="6636" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12490" PostId="5913" Score="0" Text="Right to the point, Mike P. You can clearly see through my dilemma. Thank you for your time. My son' s instructor has a really good way with kids. I will seek for his help. Maybe the way to go is what you suggest. Thank you again." CreationDate="2016-01-19T12:43:38.467" UserId="6638" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12491" PostId="5911" Score="0" Text="further to my previous comment, we can credit Bruce Lee for bringing Wing Chun to North America, but as for other styles, I'm not sure.  I'll try to ask Sifu tonight how Chow Gar (the style I'm training in) came into North America (he's a real history buff)." CreationDate="2016-01-19T12:49:39.963" UserId="6636" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12492" PostId="5914" Score="2" Text="Correct on the timing with the coach. I thing I will go alone today to find him. On your other suggestion, I could not agree more, Sardathrion! That was the way I was thinking to go about it. My son loves Superman, and I was thinking to try something like &quot;we all like not to struggle, but there are heros among us who try more than others, like Superman!&quot;. And, though I am worried about pressuring too much his young little soul, that was exactly the message I want to give him about life choices. Thank you very much." CreationDate="2016-01-19T14:40:00.363" UserId="6638" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12494" PostId="5915" Score="1" Text="During class, I saw his classmates  getting squeezed behind my boy, like he is slowing them down (a tall boy was laughing at my boy). The class (made up of 20 boys and girls) seemed detuned because of the new arrivals. There is no blue-belt in our new class. When the class finished, the next one started. My boy saw in it some even older boys with blue belts, wearing the gear for punches. He got very intrigued by that! That was where the blue-belt question came from. He is definetely interested in Tae Kwon Do, I just hope we come up with the correct rhythm and timing for him." CreationDate="2016-01-19T16:07:17.110" UserId="6638" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12495" PostId="5910" Score="0" Text="Brazilian jujitsu is considered sufficiently different from Kodokan Judo for the International Judo Federation to forbid elite judo athletes from competing in BJJ." CreationDate="2016-01-19T18:21:36.770" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12496" PostId="5919" Score="0" Text="I read this device can't reduce the oxygen level. To reduce the oxygen level it is necessary a machine. This device just reduce the amount of air that you can breathe. This will create a enforce to breathe." CreationDate="2016-01-20T00:38:53.737" UserId="5818" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12497" PostId="5919" Score="1" Text="@AFetter Correct me if I'm wrong, but reducing the amount of air you breathe should reduce the amount of oxygen you breathe by the same factor. Right? Regardless of how it works, the device fails to present any benefit to the user." CreationDate="2016-01-20T03:00:09.360" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12498" PostId="5919" Score="0" Text="The 02 mask reduce the amount of air you can breathe each time, but like you said before to increase to produce red blood cell you need to reduce the % of oxygen in the air (like in high altitude). This device will increase the number of breath per minute." CreationDate="2016-01-20T03:07:18.797" UserId="5818" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12499" PostId="5919" Score="3" Text="You can take more breaths per minute to compensate for the reduced amount of air in any one breath, sure. That way you might get the same amount of oxygen per minute as you did without the mask. But very quickly you'll reach a limit on how many breaths you can take per minute, and you'll go into an anaerobic mode. If you want to be in an anaerobic state, you can accomplish that a number of ways, including by wearing weights and wrestling bigger guys. At least then you're doing something useful. This mask alone? It does nothing for you. What do you think you are accomplishing?" CreationDate="2016-01-20T04:01:00.763" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12500" PostId="5918" Score="0" Text="He said that it was difficult. My boy changed his mind three times about which class to go to. Finally he chose the old class. But I can honestly relate to the coach for chosing him. He has too much dynamic for the old class, he can' t stand still and wait for his turn for a new set of kicks. I talked to the coach and he said to not apply any kind of pressure at all (I even asked him, if I should tell my boy that the coach will only let him go for half a yellow belt, IF he goes with the older boys to train with). &quot;It will backfire&quot;, he said. He said that my boy will come around on his own." CreationDate="2016-01-20T18:59:46.600" UserId="6638" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12501" PostId="5921" Score="0" Text="I wasn't talk about training the technique with the mask. Of course to learn technique is much better fresh and relaxed." CreationDate="2016-01-21T00:40:27.917" UserId="5818" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12502" PostId="5914" Score="0" Text="In the first paragraph, is &quot;expend&quot; the right word? Do you mean &quot;extend&quot; or &quot;expand&quot; or &quot;spend time&quot;?" CreationDate="2016-01-21T09:16:48.303" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12503" PostId="5914" Score="0" Text="Good point about the heroes, though!" CreationDate="2016-01-21T09:17:15.887" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12504" PostId="5914" Score="0" Text="@MikeP: ^_~ one tiny letter, spell checker is happy, and the meaning is utterly wrong!  Thank you for spotting it." CreationDate="2016-01-21T09:41:05.117" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12505" PostId="5914" Score="0" Text="@MikeP: Were you to paraphrase what I wrote in your answer, I'd be happy to delete this one as really it is a long addendum to yours.  I would not presume to add it to your answer since you might not agree with it." CreationDate="2016-01-21T09:42:31.877" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12506" PostId="5862" Score="1" Text="@HuwEvans If you're so sure in your wristlock technique in the context of BJJ, then go try it out. Most BJJ schools offer a handful of free classes and they'll be happy to give you a blue or purple belt to try your wrist manipulations on." CreationDate="2016-01-21T13:32:07.443" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12507" PostId="5914" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion, you've been upvoted and accepted, so wouldn't want to take that away from you!" CreationDate="2016-01-22T09:23:21.343" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12508" PostId="5916" Score="0" Text="Good point about the pre-TKD class; my organisation has a special syllabus for 4 - 7 year old children that is separate from the main TKD syllabus." CreationDate="2016-01-22T09:26:27.567" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12509" PostId="5914" Score="0" Text="@MikeP: Gotta love those fake internet points with which you can... Wait, they are valueless?  Really⸮⸮⸮  ^_~" CreationDate="2016-01-22T09:44:17.450" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12510" PostId="5862" Score="0" Text="They might or might not. Ill look into it." CreationDate="2016-01-22T15:58:58.427" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12511" PostId="5918" Score="0" Text="Sounds like he has a good teacher. He may be fine with your son not being able to stand still. When I was new to teaching one of the things my teacher told me was to &quot;let kids be kids&quot;. A 5 year old not standing still shouldn't be a big deal, unless it's lining up to begin or end a class. That's how most instructors ease kids into discipline. They can be kids except at certain well defined times. As they age those times grow larger. I'm glad he was able to come to a decision and that his teacher is understanding. All very good signs in building a solid love for the martial arts." CreationDate="2016-01-22T20:54:02.617" UserId="6644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12512" PostId="5928" Score="0" Text="Looks like what Judo becomes when the Gi is taken away, so basically great fun =)" CreationDate="2016-01-24T11:57:44.903" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12514" PostId="5925" Score="0" Text="I voted to close because the question is so very board: Wikipedia has an article on the [German school of fencying](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_school_of_fencing), on [Glima](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glima), and on [Viking arms and amours](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_Age_arms_and_armour). All articles contain references. This is but prior research which was not done." CreationDate="2016-01-25T09:16:28.050" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12515" PostId="5928" Score="0" Text="[Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glima) and [International Glima Association](http://www.internationalglima.com/) links." CreationDate="2016-01-25T09:17:49.597" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12518" PostId="5924" Score="1" Text="The entire review article is [available here](http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/10.1139/apnm-2015-0235#.Vqek-FJRLlw)." CreationDate="2016-01-26T16:57:29.363" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12519" PostId="723" Score="0" Text="Has anyone tried the [Elastic Steel Kick Mastery System](http://www.elasticsteel.net/?Click=16786)?  I've just started it and I hope its going to help me get where I want to be. I don't think it covers ONLY flexibility, but conditioning/strengthening as well. In my experience none of this is covered in Martial Arts classes, so this is something I have to do at home and I am hoping it makes my techniques better which means my class fees won't be wasted!" CreationDate="2016-01-26T22:03:52.137" UserId="1669" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12520" PostId="5933" Score="1" Text="Karate styles can differ considerably, there can even be differences within the same style for those that are not tightly controlled by a governing body. As for grades, just list kyus and dans - belt colors and adornments can differ according to style." CreationDate="2016-01-27T02:10:57.013" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12521" PostId="5933" Score="0" Text="thx @slugster, I noticed there are gradings differences even between schools and wanted to come up with something that everyone uses. Its important that website is easy to use and am afraid if we start splitting disciplines it will get overcomplicated. ATM I think its pretty good and simple to use but we really need to get disciplines/grades right, thanks again" CreationDate="2016-01-27T02:29:04.427" UserId="6675" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12522" PostId="5934" Score="0" Text="I agree. Make a text field." CreationDate="2016-01-27T10:38:33.830" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12523" PostId="5933" Score="1" Text="I think this question is asking &quot;is there a taxonomy of martial arts&quot; which does not sound like a bad question in and of itself. However, I appear to be in the minority here." CreationDate="2016-01-28T08:50:11.660" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12529" PostId="3018" Score="0" Text="I totally agree, I have also experienced that slightly above the ear is also a good place." CreationDate="2016-01-29T14:52:12.673" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12530" PostId="5944" Score="2" Text="Forgot to mention that a stab to heart, liver or lungs will definitely make you - not being able to defend anymore!" CreationDate="2016-01-29T21:31:09.983" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12531" PostId="5949" Score="0" Text="Thanks, but you'd have to experience the aikido injuries I describe to know the difference between 'hard' and painful. Also, this doesn't address bulking." CreationDate="2016-01-31T18:02:23.000" UserId="6693" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12532" PostId="5944" Score="0" Text="I know, it's nearly impossible and I think even for the best fighter, if some one knows how to stab or even comes with 2 knifes, I had this already sometimes and it is pretty hard. in my eyes knife and gun are the most dangerous ones in common assaults&#xA;and I think if even 2 at same time would charge, then at least then everyone would run, okay except you gotta protect a person that is important to you, but I wonder if it's right to give other people time to run away while stopping the attacker, I mean you never know how fast the attacker can run" CreationDate="2016-01-31T19:58:21.223" UserId="6686" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12533" PostId="5946" Score="0" Text="so it's basically true that most people get that much adrenaline in a real fight that they feel the pain after that?&#xA;I wonder how I would react or feel if I get assault charged for first time, until now I never got assaulted so I don't have that experience with the need to actually fight for my life, I am sure I won't get under shock, but I wonder if I get too nervous I wouldn't be able to concentrate myself as good as else" CreationDate="2016-01-31T20:01:53.480" UserId="6686" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12535" PostId="5944" Score="1" Text="If you try to defend someone being attacked by someone with a knife make sure you have something available that is at least longer than his arm including the knife ex. Baseballbat, chair - this one if used unproperly can be even dangerous :-(, throwing objects from a distance to distract the attacker is also good. And in any case CALL THE COPS." CreationDate="2016-01-31T20:19:53.757" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12536" PostId="5946" Score="0" Text="Adrenaline is part of it, though the other part is just how blades work and bloodloss.  A lot of the reports are just that people feel dizzy or suddenly weak, and that's because the bloodloss has kicked in, and they only thought they got punched - because they didn't know a knife was already in play.   That said, I think you're conflating a few things under &quot;shock&quot; - there's the surprise of being attacked, freezing up/fear/panic responses, adrenaline rush, and then shock in the medical sense.  These are different but all can impact you negatively in a situation." CreationDate="2016-01-31T23:57:58.097" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12537" PostId="5946" Score="1" Text="You may want to read this book to get some idea on the layers of mental/physical stuff that freezes people or slows their reactions: http://www.amazon.com/Facing-Violence-Unexpected-Rory-Miller/dp/1594392137" CreationDate="2016-01-31T23:59:13.083" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12538" PostId="5949" Score="0" Text="This is the correct answer. Drakes, if your joints are hurting, you need to fix that first before lifting, assuming you can't lift while they're in pain or stiff. If you're new to aikido, wrist pain and pain from sitting in seiza, etc. will happen. It's normal. You'll get better, and that pain will either go away or will become smaller over time. If you're 3 months into it, you still feel that pain, your aikido teacher doesn't have a solution, and it's preventing you from lifting weights, quit. You're better off. Because nobody needs that crap. Joints are not something you mess with." CreationDate="2016-02-01T04:07:31.330" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12539" PostId="5949" Score="1" Text="Bulking is not something that interferes with aikido, nor vice-versa. So I think the question about bulking is a little strange to me. You need to be able to lift weights, first of all. You need to have your joints free of pain. And you need the time to lift weights. If you lack the time, or your joints are messed up, those are your issues you need to figure out first. Any aikidoka can bulk up. It just takes time and effort. Most don't, because most people don't put in the effort to get muscular, period, regardless of whether or not they're doing aikido." CreationDate="2016-02-01T04:10:52.653" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12540" PostId="5950" Score="1" Text="Gracie Jiujitsu is also a very strenuous, active martial art. You will use your muscle and cardio-vascular system. Do that often (Kron probably works out every single day multiple times a day), and you'll be in fine physical condition. Aikido isn't like that. There truly are an awful number of fat, absurdly out of shape black belt aikidoka. So that's out. But the idea of just going out, biking, swimming, maybe play tennis, do a bunch of pull-ups and push-ups, etc., that stuff is great. That's the way to do it. Weight training is very effective, too, though." CreationDate="2016-02-01T04:17:05.350" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12541" PostId="5949" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand For context, I'm 7 years in, and I quit for 1 year to bulk. The longer you're in, the more the injuries accumulate and compound in aikido. So yes, aikido interferes with bulking. Joint health is critical for lifting. So your answer is to stay quit then?" CreationDate="2016-02-01T04:25:15.447" UserId="6693" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12542" PostId="5950" Score="0" Text="Where does this refusal to consider weight training come from? What about bodyweight training is so appealing?" CreationDate="2016-02-01T07:44:51.743" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12543" PostId="5944" Score="0" Text="yeah that's what I would do, I would tell person near me to run away and call the cops while I try to hold the attacker, no matter if I survive 10 seconds only or 5 minutes. every second gives the person near me an advantage to get safe, at least i think like that, what would you say? If I would be alone I'd sure give up and run, just don't give them a reason to attack me." CreationDate="2016-02-01T07:50:13.180" UserId="6686" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12544" PostId="5944" Score="0" Text="@DeathToxic - I can not give any advice really how you should behave in such a situation, as everybody is different - I have seen people 'big mouth heroes' transforming to 'whining washcloths' when they got stabbed. Distracting for a couple of seconds helps the other person to get away. I just hope that you never encounter such kind of situation - really! But if you under any circumstances can not avoid facing an attacker and need to hold him, try at least to focus/pin his knife holding hand - MUST NOT LET GO - and shout for additional help of bystanders ... and  .. (you/they) CALL THE COPS." CreationDate="2016-02-01T08:03:41.983" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12545" PostId="5944" Score="0" Text="I think/hope the human instinct in our mind and boy will handle it if the time comes. And I can just hope that everyone will survive. I am very paranoid regarding  this, I did MMA and do Krav Maga to built up confidence. It helps a lot actually.&#xA;I got the feeling if I would think about it it won't do it better, somehow the situation will not go as I plan anyway" CreationDate="2016-02-01T08:19:17.273" UserId="6686" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12547" PostId="5949" Score="0" Text="@Drakes How did the year off go? Did you fix your injuries? How big are you now—because being undersized and weak makes people more prone to injury, and maybe that's not the case anymore. Are you still trying to get bigger, or just to get stronger while maintaining your roughly current size? How many times a week do you lift, or did you train aikido?" CreationDate="2016-02-01T09:21:10.823" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12548" PostId="5950" Score="0" Text="And did Kron actually gain muscle with his described program? He has fought MMA and BJJ in the 170lb/77kg division for his entire career, dating back to his teens, and even if he cuts he doesn't cut much. So we're talking about someone who is athletic and well built, but not notably big or strong or muscular within his sports. Beyond that, I'd attribute his current build to doing BJJ through puberty more than bodyweight training." CreationDate="2016-02-01T09:27:52.423" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12549" PostId="5949" Score="0" Text="Hi @DaveLiepmann, great question. When I stopped, I was 78kg. Now I'm 90kg with 10% body fat. I look good and feel amazing. I can lift hard and my joints are fantastic. I lift 5 days a week, and did Aikido 6 days a week like everyone else and the teachers. Now, can I return to aikido - that's my real question. The injuries will come back and then lifting will be out." CreationDate="2016-02-01T10:14:32.930" UserId="6693" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12550" PostId="5952" Score="0" Text="I did get out, to work on my health and physique. I'm really built now. People keep touching me randomly. The dojo - it's super famous and everyone trains 5-6 days a week, but even the teachers are quite injured. It's the culture. We don't complain, we just power through the injuries. I had to get out to heal and grow. But how can I return and keep bulking?" CreationDate="2016-02-01T10:18:22.723" UserId="6693" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12551" PostId="5952" Score="5" Text="@Drakes: Any dojo who state that you should &quot;power through the injuries&quot; is not a place anyone should train. If everyone is injured, including the instructors, then that dojo is worthless. It has failed in the most basic of self defence: that of safe guarding its members. By &quot;get out&quot;, I meant get out and never come back. Answer edited." CreationDate="2016-02-01T11:10:32.737" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12552" PostId="5951" Score="0" Text="All true ... on youtube there are pleanty of examples...:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaY6rxgdn4k; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZqNKAd_gTw; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIo9ritvcg4" CreationDate="2016-02-01T13:49:50.217" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12553" PostId="5949" Score="0" Text="Well then, you have two, maybe three possible choices, Drakes. You can continue with Aikido and allow your joints to worsen, and not be able to lift weights. You can stop doing Aikido completely, find something else to do, and lift weights. Or you can possibly find a way to continue doing Aikido without it screwing up your joints. I suspect the 3rd option is out, because you would have already figured that out, but maybe not. Listen, if your joints are messed up, stop doing whatever it is that's causing that. Joints are important, and you're going to regret it later on if you don't stop now." CreationDate="2016-02-01T18:21:52.150" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12559" PostId="5956" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site! This is a really nice answer." CreationDate="2016-02-03T08:53:23.487" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12567" PostId="1038" Score="0" Text="Just a correction: Lichtenfeld trained at the Hercules Gymnasium, which was owned by his father, who taught self-defense.&#xA;Lichtenfeld was a successful boxer, wrestler, and gymnast since his youth. He competed at national and international levels and was a champion and member of the Slovakian National Wrestling Team. He won the Slovakian Youth Wrestling Championship, and the adult championship in the light and middleweight divisions. That year, he also won the national boxing championship and an international gymnastics championship. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imi_Lichtenfeld" CreationDate="2016-02-04T12:56:28.367" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12571" PostId="5963" Score="1" Text="Might be two questions here, Sean." CreationDate="2016-02-04T18:49:52.680" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12572" PostId="5963" Score="1" Text="That's true, I suppose. Well, no harm in splitting." CreationDate="2016-02-04T18:51:46.870" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12573" PostId="5964" Score="0" Text="I recommend taking actual dance classes to learn how to move with a beat.  The skill should be transferable (in theory) to Capoeira.  Also, a dance instructor ought to be able to teach moving with music much better than a martial artist." CreationDate="2016-02-04T18:57:16.087" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12574" PostId="5964" Score="0" Text="Just to clarify, if I know what beat I'm moving on, I can generally do that. I've got several years of theatrical and ballroom dance under my belt. I just haven't found anyone who'll tell me when these beats are. :)" CreationDate="2016-02-04T18:58:46.500" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12575" PostId="5963" Score="0" Text="It is nice to see more question about Capoeira." CreationDate="2016-02-05T07:41:03.747" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12576" PostId="5962" Score="1" Text="Could you explain how you know that? (I guess you practice Muay Thai and that's what your instructor told you?)" CreationDate="2016-02-05T09:04:39.217" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12580" PostId="5942" Score="0" Text="This practice is not really that novel.  Bruce Lee blended western style weight training with Chinese style martial arts training.  It was controversial at the time, but obviously very effective.  Goju ryu and various Okinawan systems of karate, and Vietnamese kung fu specifically incorporate forms of weight training." CreationDate="2016-02-06T07:08:35.030" UserId="6599" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12582" PostId="5969" Score="10" Text="...give them the money/do whatever they tell you to do?!" CreationDate="2016-02-07T20:52:13.683" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12583" PostId="5970" Score="0" Text="do you believe that even a top trained fighter would have the same chance as a normal human? I mean what you say sounds simple and logical at the same time. Just following the instinct in every situation.&#xA;&#xA;I heard that you should run/fight back at this moment when someone tries to control you like telling you to go into their van or something like this" CreationDate="2016-02-07T22:32:45.593" UserId="6686" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12584" PostId="5970" Score="2" Text="As far as the folks dealing with gun defense - from Krav Maga to Systema to the variety of other smaller combative ones I've seen they all pretty much agree if someone just wants your belongings, go ahead and give it up.  That's the &quot;top trained&quot; people in that field.  If someone wants you to move to a new location, then it's YOU they want, and you're in trouble then.  And all of those systems pretty much consider it among the worst situations to have multiple attackers with guns after you." CreationDate="2016-02-08T06:29:04.643" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12586" PostId="5969" Score="2" Text="Oh Man it seems to me where you live that there are a lot of people running with knifes and guns around, your last question was about defending a knife attack - there is only one advice I can give you: Move in another town where it is safer!" CreationDate="2016-02-08T08:00:18.460" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12587" PostId="5969" Score="0" Text="1. yeah but when they want to kidnap me, should I really follow?&#xA;2. Well you can say it doesn't always happen, but when it does, then there are about a whole gang each one a gun or at least 2 people with each one a gun. I don't know when to run and when to fight. Or should I just listen to my instinct?&#xA;Well don't have the money to move out :S" CreationDate="2016-02-08T08:10:23.657" UserId="6686" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12588" PostId="5969" Score="0" Text="If you don´t have money... why should they kidnap you?- I´ll write my thoughts in an answer ..." CreationDate="2016-02-08T08:28:59.323" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12589" PostId="5971" Score="0" Text="Totally agree, except the Bishnu Prasad links. He was a Gurkha, a special forces unit - elite soldier fighting against a mob of farmers in a train. We all know that the media tends to dramatize those kind of events... single handedly - 30 armed (with what) people?  if one had a hand gun... it had been over soon." CreationDate="2016-02-08T08:42:43.340" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12590" PostId="5972" Score="0" Text="it's true sometimes they even shoot you if you do what they whant. &#xA;If I would think about this I would say, if I am alone I just put my wallet or whatever belongings I have on the ground slowly then I run away as fast as I can.&#xA;But if there is a person near me I have to protect, I would stay and then try to figure out how to get the person safe first.&#xA;I mean if I would leave my belongings there, they could be busy with taking all my stuff so they wouldn't need me anyway. Except they are overpowered so I would do whatever they want until the moment I got the feeling they would kill me anyway" CreationDate="2016-02-08T09:01:24.467" UserId="6686" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12592" PostId="5971" Score="0" Text="Tbh I live in Switzerland. There are not many criminals here but when they are, they got guns like nothing. Knifes and guns everytime and never alone.&#xA;Since almost everyone can have a gun here.&#xA;&#xA;Well ofc nothing in a wallet could replace a life of a person. I think about haveing a fake wallet. If someone robbs me I keep my hands up and put the fake wallet on the ground then run away as fast as I can. So he could be busy with taking my wallet and doesn't need me to stay anyway. &#xA;The problem is more 2-3 guys with guns come at me, well seems like no chance of winning to me..." CreationDate="2016-02-08T09:07:16.650" UserId="6686" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12593" PostId="5970" Score="0" Text="&quot;In most cases...&quot; + did you read the last paragraph?  As I said, people spend their entire lifetimes training to figure out best solutions which boil down to the specifics of the situation.   GENERALLY, distance decreases danger - by the numbers.  SPECIFICALLY, it depends on the situation.  So I'm not sure why you're reading a &quot;one solution fits all&quot; answer when that's not what I said at all." CreationDate="2016-02-08T16:16:40.420" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12595" PostId="5975" Score="0" Text="To clarify, I've done a TON of research on medieval weaponry, and a bit on  their roles in grand-scale combat, etc. so I have some good, accurate lists I can use there, at least.&#xA;It's more fighting styles I'm lacking." CreationDate="2016-02-08T18:10:53.597" UserId="6724" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12596" PostId="5976" Score="6" Text="Perhaps Savate?" CreationDate="2016-02-08T21:53:21.300" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12597" PostId="5975" Score="0" Text="I am guessing your table top RPG is historical/real world rather than anime/manga level? If the later, you really don't need to worry about accuracy and can come up with all sort of crazy things.  Still, better asked on [rpg](http://rpg.stackexchange.com/)." CreationDate="2016-02-09T09:43:19.383" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12598" PostId="5979" Score="0" Text="Hm. This is pretty close to what I've seen as far as my other research goes; breaking it down into the types of techniques/weapons you use." CreationDate="2016-02-09T10:10:58.790" UserId="6724" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12600" PostId="5975" Score="0" Text="They basically just said to go research martial arts." CreationDate="2016-02-09T10:36:41.223" UserId="6724" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12601" PostId="5979" Score="0" Text="I've edited the question with some more relevant info." CreationDate="2016-02-09T10:37:43.393" UserId="6724" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12603" PostId="5980" Score="1" Text="Do you mean to say that every concussion causes brain damage?" CreationDate="2016-02-09T10:51:06.827" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12604" PostId="5979" Score="0" Text="Well that's what I mean, I've seen a similar description to what you gave me - throws, locks, strikes, grapples, and weapons." CreationDate="2016-02-09T10:55:23.503" UserId="6724" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12605" PostId="5980" Score="1" Text="Every concussion _is_ brain damage. However, it's not always permanent." CreationDate="2016-02-09T13:20:42.247" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12606" PostId="5976" Score="0" Text="@mattm: Interesting, never heard of Savate before, although literally a &quot;neighboring&quot; art for me as a German." CreationDate="2016-02-09T13:58:02.853" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12607" PostId="5980" Score="1" Text="All brain damage is permanent.  The brain can't regrow cells.  And yes every concussion is brain damage." CreationDate="2016-02-09T15:50:05.330" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12608" PostId="5980" Score="3" Text="There's been studies over the last 10 years that change the idea the brain never recovers cells, however, they're still working out the mechanisms of it.  However, the already well known factor is that the brain re-routes neural pathways to non-damaged parts for most injury, which is why mild concussions tend not to have lasting impairment - the worse the damage, the longer the effect until the brain can find a functional pathway.  And likewise, repeat concussions eventually knock out too many paths &amp; give long term impairment." CreationDate="2016-02-09T17:56:06.677" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12609" PostId="5983" Score="0" Text="Great!! So it's like BJJ in no gi. Do they have different submissions? Or how about naming them? E.g: If they also have the arm bar, do they call it 'arm bar' or something else? What made me interested is this (http://www.bjjheroes.com/bjj-culture/jiu-jitsu-vs-luta-livre)  article where it mentions how BJJ had conflicts with Luta Livre and how they became rivals with each other." CreationDate="2016-02-10T06:02:32.697" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12610" PostId="5983" Score="2" Text="Im no practicionaer of luta nor BJJ but as both have same roots - jiujitsu in brasil, I would think they use the same names. I have heard about the conflict but think that it is just the same Story like the different Kung Fu styles in China challenging each other which one is better... for fame, Marketing whatever ..." CreationDate="2016-02-10T06:17:51.223" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12611" PostId="5984" Score="0" Text="&quot;After you get the muscle strength Force to make the larger impact&quot; - this doesn't make sense; do you mean after increasing muscle strength, the force will be greater and make a larger impact?" CreationDate="2016-02-10T11:58:18.930" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12612" PostId="5985" Score="2" Text="&quot;Bjj banned...ankle lock[s] at all to all belts and divisions.&quot; — this is not true. Heel hooks, one specific *kind* of ankle/leg lock, are banned at all belts and divisions. Straight ankle locks are legal at all adult belt levels and toe holds are still legal for some divisions." CreationDate="2016-02-11T04:58:13.297" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12613" PostId="5985" Score="0" Text="Sorry @DaveLiepmann, my bad. I fixed." CreationDate="2016-02-11T05:01:21.103" UserId="5818" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12614" PostId="5985" Score="0" Text="Cool. What are luta livre competition rules—is it simply no time limit submission only?" CreationDate="2016-02-11T06:05:42.480" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12615" PostId="5983" Score="2" Text="[BJJHeroes disagrees](http://www.bjjheroes.com/bjj-culture/jiu-jitsu-vs-luta-livre): luta livre has roots in **catch wrestling**, not Japanese jiujitsu." CreationDate="2016-02-11T09:50:29.110" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12618" PostId="5985" Score="2" Text="This was years ago. That time was same rules of BJJ for points and time. No rules for submission. It means all submission are allowed. A little less restricted than ADCC  http://adcombat.com/adcc-rules-and-regulations/" CreationDate="2016-02-11T12:14:29.247" UserId="5818" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12619" PostId="5983" Score="1" Text="I disagree on that, I edited the answer so you can see more details. The roots are from judo and so called catch wrestling (a european mixture of multiple grappling arts: rish collar-and-elbow wrestling, Pehlwani wrestling (modern Indian), Iran's Varzesh-e Pahlavani wrestling, and, of course, the grand daddy of many, the ancient Greeks' wrestling styles, all had a hand in the catch wrestling style that caught on in America right after the Civil War... and Judos roots are in Japanese jujutsu !" CreationDate="2016-02-11T13:43:12.817" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12622" PostId="5381" Score="1" Text="The dedication I saw was: **This Book is Dedicated to the Free, Creative, Martial Artist** *Take what is useful and develop from there.* Does someone have a different dedication in their book?&#xA;Also, as the book was published posthumously, can we know who wrote the dedication?" CreationDate="2016-02-11T14:49:11.793" UserDisplayName="user6730" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12623" PostId="5991" Score="2" Text="I find this confusing: &quot;I like the bursting concept of it, to many choke escapes. One or two will do but to go thru your mind selecting out of 12 is useless under stress.&quot; Could you please clarify?" CreationDate="2016-02-13T16:24:21.720" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12624" PostId="1762" Score="0" Text="Getting the Ass kicked inside the ring doesn´t mean that the style is bad. If specific techniques would be allowed inside the ring, who would win? It is still and will be always the one who wants it more. The skill can be trained however, but a kick is a kick and a punch will be always a punch. Ever noticed how shiny techniques crippeled down to simple straight punches and beautiful hooks changed to windmills in real fiughts? Btw. there was one fight as I recal with Tomy Bloom inside an octagon he won without Krav techniques." CreationDate="2016-02-15T09:03:50.040" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12626" PostId="5996" Score="0" Text="What concrete problem are you trying to solve? Currently, the question reads like an invite to discus nebulous differences." CreationDate="2016-02-16T13:52:13.063" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12627" PostId="5996" Score="0" Text="It is an invite to discuss something. There is no problem, I'm just wondering." CreationDate="2016-02-16T15:53:56.350" UserId="6587" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12628" PostId="5996" Score="1" Text="This site isn't for discussion.  It's strictly about answering discrete questions.  Please, take the tour http://stackoverflow.com/tour" CreationDate="2016-02-16T19:50:33.810" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12631" PostId="5998" Score="0" Text="That's pretty much What I was looking for, so thank you very much" CreationDate="2016-02-16T21:28:31.897" UserId="6587" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12633" PostId="6003" Score="0" Text="How about the opponent's martial arts knowledge? I think this question can be argued upon various facts such opponent's abilities, stamina level, etc..." CreationDate="2016-02-18T02:30:57.467" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12635" PostId="6003" Score="1" Text="Also see [How to defeat a much stronger and bigger opponent?](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/4763/5961)" CreationDate="2016-02-18T03:39:21.463" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12636" PostId="6004" Score="0" Text="Thank mattm, Can you add a video with examples for it?" CreationDate="2016-02-18T03:56:04.230" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12637" PostId="6004" Score="0" Text="I heard in case of difference between rival it would be better to keep distance in the fight is it right? what should you do if you don't succeed in keeping the distance?" CreationDate="2016-02-18T04:05:33.390" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12638" PostId="6006" Score="0" Text="What about weight transfer?" CreationDate="2016-02-18T11:25:34.230" UserId="6587" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12642" PostId="6008" Score="0" Text="I am really looking for guidance on the &quot;Make it a game&quot; aspect. What should games/drills look like so people unconsciously start applying the same lessons outside the game?" CreationDate="2016-02-18T14:08:33.727" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12643" PostId="6004" Score="0" Text="@Avi There is no simple video example. Basically any training should be preparing you to fight someone bigger. As for distance, this all depends on what you have trained, and what the other person has trained. If you plan to throw people, you would want to close distance rather than maintain distance." CreationDate="2016-02-18T14:15:50.120" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12644" PostId="6014" Score="0" Text="I would say *run towards safety* instead of away." CreationDate="2016-02-18T16:42:59.820" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12645" PostId="6014" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion At no point did I ever say &quot;run away from safety!&quot; You could misconstrue the &quot;fumbling with keys&quot; situation for this, but I was seeing a situation where its unclear if you can get into your car/door before the attacker gets to you. I'll change that." CreationDate="2016-02-18T19:38:44.790" UserId="6374" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12646" PostId="6013" Score="1" Text="We discourage link-only answers as they're highly dependent on the video never disappearing and the content is not searchable. Can you summarize the contents of the video in your answer?" CreationDate="2016-02-18T19:52:23.767" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12647" PostId="6008" Score="0" Text="Instructors can demonstrate what it feels like. Like take the kesa-gatame hold. Show how to power out of kesa-gatame. Then show a gentler way to escape. To emphasize it, have the smallest student do the hold on the largest student. Tell the larger of the two to power out of it. It was easy. Now reverse the positions so that the smaller student is being held, and tell him/her to do the same power move. If the smaller student can't do it, then it shows that the technique won't work reliably for the larger student either, if he encounters a larger opponent than himself." CreationDate="2016-02-18T21:14:46.047" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12648" PostId="6008" Score="0" Text="I think most grapplers appreciate being shown escapes, reversals, etc. that seem effortless. For the &quot;make it a game&quot; aspect, this comes with experience. Once students learn more and more of them, they want to try them in randori. So, instructors should make it a part of their regular daily lessons, emphasizing calmness and using your head, not your brawn. When students are exposed to this kind of thinking enough, they'll do it all on their own. They'll get it. It just takes experience and training." CreationDate="2016-02-18T21:20:22.147" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12649" PostId="6006" Score="0" Text="If you are keeping on your toes and moving around with rapid steps, weight transfer following a slip has minimal impact as rapid steps and recovery is used to regain centre balance. It's inevitable that your balance is moved to one side when you slip, the trick is to make that weight transfer as rapid as possible. Keeping on your toes with sharp phasic movement will ensure that you recover your balance back in time. With this practice you'll learn to keep balanced while slipping." CreationDate="2016-02-18T22:58:49.650" UserId="1985" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12650" PostId="6016" Score="0" Text="If you throw the first punch, *you are* the aggressor." CreationDate="2016-02-19T08:17:01.327" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12651" PostId="6014" Score="1" Text="Strawman argument? You are right, you never said &quot;run away from safety!&quot; and neither did I criticise you for saying (or not saying) it. Running willy nilly could end you in more trouble hence running towards safety. In your parking lot example, run towards the exit where there's a guard not deeper into the garage. 'nuff said." CreationDate="2016-02-19T08:24:55.947" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12654" PostId="6016" Score="1" Text="Your view of the law is naive." CreationDate="2016-02-19T09:32:41.817" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12655" PostId="6021" Score="4" Text="You've given some examples of training without sparring, but I don't think you've offered a clear answer to the question (i.e. can you train effectively without sparring?)." CreationDate="2016-02-19T09:57:01.977" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12656" PostId="6022" Score="0" Text="You should edit your previous answer, not add a new one." CreationDate="2016-02-19T09:58:38.263" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12658" PostId="5025" Score="0" Text="The question is not about Shaolin monks." CreationDate="2016-02-19T10:22:16.143" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12659" PostId="6022" Score="0" Text="The question is not about Shaolin monks." CreationDate="2016-02-19T10:22:28.100" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12660" PostId="6021" Score="2" Text="This is anectdotal crap." CreationDate="2016-02-19T17:13:35.810" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12662" PostId="5540" Score="0" Text="[The Book of Martial Power by Steve Pearlman](http://www.amazon.com/Book-Martial-Power-Steven-Pearlman/dp/1585679445) explains the why's of how martial arts works, with diagrams.  There is very little physics explanation, but there are a lot of illustrations of the principles of efficient martial movement." CreationDate="2016-02-19T18:19:31.927" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12663" PostId="6023" Score="3" Text="Could you clarify your question? It seems hard to distinguish from [your previous question](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/6002/347)." CreationDate="2016-02-19T18:59:35.403" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12664" PostId="6023" Score="0" Text="Lol, this question is about whether your weight must be evenly distributed across your boxing stance to balanced. The other was similar I guess but about whether your still balanced if you transfer your weight on one leg when you slip, and while that was answered not much depth was given to the topic as it wasn't asked for." CreationDate="2016-02-19T21:30:33.770" UserId="6587" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12665" PostId="6025" Score="1" Text="Do you have examples you can show for the different falls? I have years of experience in judo, but I am not sure what you mean by falls with one leg straight and the other bent." CreationDate="2016-02-20T02:23:24.470" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12666" PostId="6025" Score="1" Text="@mattm In judo, bottom leg generally stays mostly extended and top leg is bent 90° at the knee. In aikido and many Japanese jiujitsu ryu, the top leg remains the same but the bottom leg often bends &gt;90° at the knee." CreationDate="2016-02-20T06:03:43.210" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12667" PostId="6026" Score="1" Text="Agreed.  To clarify what Dave Says about not being able to roll there are some throws in judo/jujitsu that prevent this.  On the other hand other throws, a push or a wrist-lock will usually allow you to roll.  I also know a third type of breakfall where you arch the back and land with the feet first.  This is for particularly nasty wrist-locks that hold you up by your wrist as you fall (ie you are thrown by the wrist)." CreationDate="2016-02-20T10:19:41.203" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12668" PostId="6025" Score="0" Text="My gut feeling is that some of the differences might stem from the practice of Judo as a sport versus self defense. The inherent rules of competition tend to influence technique whether you want them to or not." CreationDate="2016-02-20T11:54:42.083" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12669" PostId="6012" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the good answer, is it possible you could further explain why you don't need to be have equal weight distribution to be balanced?" CreationDate="2016-02-20T12:05:21.673" UserId="6587" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12671" PostId="6016" Score="0" Text="@sardathrion - what do you suggest then? Wait for the first punch and act upon that? That is naive and surely not  what I would recommend anybody. It depends on the circumstances how to react. If you can avoid it - for sure avoid it. If you cant and see no other chance to get out - be the first who reacts. That is my personal opinion!" CreationDate="2016-02-20T12:49:03.780" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12672" PostId="6025" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann In judo parlance, are we talking about rolling breakfalls (zempo kaiten) or side falls?" CreationDate="2016-02-20T13:10:11.203" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12673" PostId="6026" Score="0" Text="Do you know if the tuck your leg was originally developed for rolling on hard(er) tatami mats?" CreationDate="2016-02-20T19:18:49.090" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12676" PostId="6026" Score="0" Text="It's for rolling on no mats at all.  Sardathrion.  I usually do that one on a wooden floor.  It's not fun  though, you get a line of bruises along from one shoulder to the opposite hip." CreationDate="2016-02-20T22:02:10.840" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12678" PostId="6030" Score="0" Text="Thanks a lot @Bankuei, Is there any vidoes I can see your great solutions?" CreationDate="2016-02-21T03:59:15.780" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12681" PostId="6025" Score="0" Text="Dave answered my question, thank you very much for the comments!" CreationDate="2016-02-21T09:16:40.377" UserId="6757" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12682" PostId="6036" Score="1" Text="Thanks a lot. Could you please add a video to demonstrate the solution? It can be very helpful." CreationDate="2016-02-21T11:40:33.453" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12683" PostId="6030" Score="0" Text="I'll go dig some up and post in a few days." CreationDate="2016-02-21T18:20:45.263" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12684" PostId="6030" Score="1" Text="Here's an example of rotating out of the hammerlock.  What it doesn't show is that this is the most expected way out of it, so the person doing the lock with any intelligence ought to be either slamming you into a wall, the ground, kneeing you, or moving with you when you try to escape: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YybWfedmHsw" CreationDate="2016-02-21T18:53:29.323" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12685" PostId="6012" Score="0" Text="@Charlie I honestly don't know what to add to explain the idea. Equal weight distribution is literally &quot;balanced&quot;, but as I say, having an unbalanced weight distribution does not mean you're &quot;off balance&quot; or doing something wrong." CreationDate="2016-02-21T18:59:21.533" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12686" PostId="6025" Score="0" Text="@mattm I was assuming zempo kaiten (forward roll) despite now seeing that the answer technically refers to a &quot;front or side fall&quot;. I've never seen a side fall taught in a Japanese-derived art that tucks the bottom leg." CreationDate="2016-02-21T19:02:01.607" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12687" PostId="6026" Score="2" Text="All these breakfalls were originally developed on hard tatami or no tatami at all. I believe both forms were practiced in koryu arts." CreationDate="2016-02-21T19:03:46.337" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12688" PostId="6030" Score="0" Text="Thanks a lot again. However, when real hammer lock/ arm lock is done the attacker has 2 locking point: the arm and wrist and it is much more complicated to turn around as seen in TV because of the great pressure in 2 different points in hand. I wish there were some additional techniques." CreationDate="2016-02-21T19:17:25.347" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12689" PostId="6030" Score="1" Text="Master Wong (colorfulness aside) shows an example to help deal with the wrist rotation by using your free hand then bodyweight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMC_uLjzEZ0  That said, the easier counters are early on before your arm is behind your back.  (I'm also looking for a good example of the elbow drop method I mention, but it shows up mostly in silat and not necessarily a commonly shown technique - and also the fact that the video you linked shows the locker to the SIDE of the person not behind them makes it possible)." CreationDate="2016-02-21T19:35:39.830" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12691" PostId="6036" Score="1" Text="If I can find a partner to film with I could.  I can't promise anything though." CreationDate="2016-02-21T20:59:52.793" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12692" PostId="6036" Score="0" Text="I am looking forward.... It will be very helpful" CreationDate="2016-02-21T21:52:48.597" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12695" PostId="6035" Score="0" Text="edited further, maybe it´s more clear now :-)" CreationDate="2016-02-22T08:16:05.443" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12696" PostId="6035" Score="0" Text="That works for me! ^_~" CreationDate="2016-02-22T08:41:26.367" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12697" PostId="6033" Score="1" Text="Is this a real situation or a hypothetical one?" CreationDate="2016-02-22T11:21:09.593" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12700" PostId="6033" Score="0" Text="In real situation." CreationDate="2016-02-22T12:48:54.983" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12709" PostId="6043" Score="0" Text="As a long overdue update, I'm currently no longer doing martial arts, but I am doing a combination of power lifting and strongman training.  It's been a fun pursuit in and of itself." CreationDate="2016-02-22T17:36:14.507" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12710" PostId="6043" Score="0" Text="Nice to hear that, I'm into some kind bulgarian style of training for the 3 main lifts and include a lot pressing (jerks, push press and military) in my workouts ... this is my current focus, the Krav-Maga stuff is just for my own competitive - me, that likes to punch + kick and Wrestling around with other same minded and age guys. Thanks for notification !" CreationDate="2016-02-22T18:03:59.440" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12711" PostId="6044" Score="2" Text="Is this in self defence or in a competition?" CreationDate="2016-02-22T18:25:52.333" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12713" PostId="6026" Score="1" Text="To make one point clear: In traditional, japanese Judo (as traditioned through Kata), the falls for stand-ups are with both legs (slightly) bend, almost parallely. It works just fine, but you have you back towards your opponent (see the video of @mattm). You can bend them more, like done in e.g. modern Parcours. A speculation of me always was that tucking the buttom leg and standing up *over the knee* would be slightly more dangerous for the knee, but keeps you more mobile while standing up: You can switch directions easily while standing up and face the opponent you're coming from." CreationDate="2016-02-23T09:43:35.113" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12714" PostId="5416" Score="10" Text="*I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times.* -- Bruce Lee." CreationDate="2016-02-23T10:33:22.243" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12716" PostId="6050" Score="0" Text="Did I not say that they were better options than fighting?  I'm not sure what you are arguing against here.  I was once lectured by a policeman and I quote &quot;It's better to be tried by a jury of twelve than carried in a coffin by 6&quot;.  Yes it's important to learn the legal implications but when your life is on the line it's important to preserve it.  Good point about not escalating." CreationDate="2016-02-23T11:09:18.620" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12718" PostId="6050" Score="0" Text="[*It's better to be tried by a jury of twelve than carried by six* is 100% pure manure](http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/legal.html)." CreationDate="2016-02-23T11:23:16.660" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12719" PostId="6050" Score="0" Text="I don't disagree with or contradict anything in that article Sardathrion." CreationDate="2016-02-23T11:45:43.667" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12720" PostId="6050" Score="1" Text="Let me clarify: In the knife mugging the correct reaction is to give over money. Run, try to reason. If he actually tries to attack you with said knife back off draw gun. Shoot." CreationDate="2016-02-23T11:49:02.607" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12723" PostId="2257" Score="0" Text="You should pick up an [Agility Ladder](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67XP-AekUoA)" CreationDate="2016-02-23T21:15:46.477" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12726" PostId="2257" Score="0" Text="@TheWudangKid - You read the last paragraph, yes? I already have two or three of most of all of that. :)" CreationDate="2016-02-23T21:56:35.407" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12727" PostId="2257" Score="0" Text="Yeah, I skimmed.  But did you take a look at the link?  It's a vid.  Maybe some agility drills you haven't seen." CreationDate="2016-02-23T22:00:39.257" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12730" PostId="6025" Score="0" Text="Please consider my comment on the answer, too. @mattm is totally correct in stating that tucking the leg (crossing) is considered bad falling in judo, because of the danger of injuries. If it's just about rolling with standing up without opponent, bending both legs works perfectly fine and does not endanger your knee on hard grounds. I am *happy* to have learnt it &quot;real&quot; judo-style as depicted in the tomoe-nage video when i had to use it for prevention on the street. Parcours uses exactly this, the knees bend more. Because it is safer in critical situations." CreationDate="2016-02-24T00:25:29.277" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12732" PostId="6054" Score="0" Text="I accepted mattm’s answer since I was more specifically interested in visible changes, but your answer is very interesting too. I can only accept one, unfortunately." CreationDate="2016-02-24T12:50:48.410" UserId="1878" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12734" PostId="6062" Score="0" Text="You assumed correctly, we are using a repeat of pattern A.  Maybe what I wrote was clearer than it sounded in my head... ^_~" CreationDate="2016-02-24T13:18:07.177" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12735" PostId="5736" Score="0" Text="I thought the police over here, trained in Judo rather then akido." CreationDate="2016-02-24T14:21:30.603" UserId="5993" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12736" PostId="6063" Score="0" Text="Could I ask for some photos if you can?" CreationDate="2016-02-24T14:22:17.333" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12737" PostId="5416" Score="1" Text="The only thing that will help reduce being skittish is by practicing and practicing and practicing until it becomes automatic. Stick to 1 martial art and master it, so you will have the self esteem and the self confidence to handle yourself. Also, in your first school, the &quot;boxing ranked student&quot; should never have let you spare so soon. He should have been let go from the school. And he's a dick." CreationDate="2016-02-24T18:33:15.963" UserId="6776" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12738" PostId="6063" Score="0" Text="The coach was not present today, so I'll have to ask a later time, sorry. I would have had a chance to take photos of such competition assembly last weekend when my son was in a contest, but unfortunately I did not as I read your question just today. I am quite amazed there aren't any photos of such build, try asking someone who is organizing contests as they must have some kind of system for temporary tatamis." CreationDate="2016-02-24T19:00:21.223" UserId="6488" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12739" PostId="6058" Score="1" Text="The things you describe as &quot;may happen after someone passes out&quot; is more due to panicking than the actual choke, I'd presume. The effect of the choke is inconciousness and probably some circuit problems. I have never faced anything other than the total loss of tension." CreationDate="2016-02-24T20:30:51.987" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12741" PostId="6054" Score="0" Text="Great answer! #5 is confusing. Can you rephrase please?" CreationDate="2016-02-25T05:02:08.357" UserId="6779" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12744" PostId="5989" Score="2" Text="The effectiveness of Arnica is a controversial topic and AFAIK has not been scientifically proven." CreationDate="2016-02-25T08:09:51.273" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12745" PostId="6066" Score="1" Text="Welcome to Martial Arts! Interesting answer. I was wondering, do you have any references to back up your answer?" CreationDate="2016-02-25T08:29:35.370" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12746" PostId="6072" Score="0" Text="Can you please elaborate what you mean with &quot;*fight from your side without changing the body position*&quot;?" CreationDate="2016-02-25T08:31:33.870" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12747" PostId="6071" Score="1" Text="I've edited your question a bit to make your question more clear. If you disagree with my changes feel free to roll them back." CreationDate="2016-02-25T08:37:39.530" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12749" PostId="6076" Score="0" Text="Thanks a lot Huw Evans, Can you please add sources (may be video) to the meiuchi and to source of the effective pressure points?" CreationDate="2016-02-25T13:23:55.350" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12750" PostId="6072" Score="0" Text="@Avi: I tried to clear up your question a bit more. Let me know if it goes counter to what you were actually wanting to ask." CreationDate="2016-02-25T13:46:24.143" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12751" PostId="6072" Score="1" Text="I don't have time to sit down and write up an answer currently, but I've found references to &quot;Choy Li Fut&quot; which is an adaptation of various kung fu forms and is noted as being effective versus multiple attackers and to a &quot;hurricane mantis&quot; motion which looks to be a series of circular motions to ward off attacks while striking in various directions." CreationDate="2016-02-25T13:52:47.393" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12752" PostId="6076" Score="1" Text="I'll find a meiuchi video. You wont find any clinical trials on these points though. It would never pass a research ethics committee. The points are nothing magic but I cant link to research." CreationDate="2016-02-25T14:53:35.953" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12753" PostId="6076" Score="0" Text="So to say ... 'yeah it works' - as long you use the special technique ... on pressure points like groin and eyes. So yeah I agree eyes gouching and a kick to the balls always work." CreationDate="2016-02-25T15:48:45.100" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12754" PostId="6076" Score="0" Text="Lets put it this way: I can make it work using other points. I just don't advise poking yourself in the neck to try to find a point that can knock you out." CreationDate="2016-02-25T16:13:57.977" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12756" PostId="6070" Score="3" Text="This doesn't look very viable as a way of getting to that wrist lock.  Also his front leg is vulnerable while he is supposed to be in control.  I'll upload a video when I can find someone to demonstrate with." CreationDate="2016-02-25T18:48:35.057" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12758" PostId="6077" Score="1" Text="Great answer, but low front-leg snap kicks (and side kicks) are perfectly legal in MMA, savate, and probably many kickboxing/K1 rulesets." CreationDate="2016-02-25T20:22:03.320" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12760" PostId="6072" Score="1" Text="Most SPM styles are actually pretty straight-on oriented, rather than dealing with attackers from the side-on. In fact, no martial art deals well with attackers coming at you from the side instead of straight-on. Most SPM styles focus on straight line motion as you travel on the floor. If there is something special about the way it deals with side-on attackers, I'm missing it. Better get a SPM expert on here. I only dabbled." CreationDate="2016-02-26T04:17:16.403" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12761" PostId="6072" Score="0" Text="By the way, on that subject, you should probably specify which SPM style you're talking about. There are 5 or 6 main branches of them. Each have a somewhat different look and approach." CreationDate="2016-02-26T04:19:01.677" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12762" PostId="72" Score="0" Text="I don't know why one of the answers was accepted when it clearly contradicts what I heard directly from a Texas ex-con, who had his hands/skills classified as deadly weapons, and from this article: http://www.local10.com/news/local/judge-mma-fighters-hands-feet-are-deadly-weapons .  I would think that, yes, there can be legal ramifications in the US." CreationDate="2016-02-26T06:11:40.413" UserId="6785" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12763" PostId="6072" Score="0" Text="The SPM style is KWONG SAI JOOK LUM" CreationDate="2016-02-26T06:17:46.813" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12765" PostId="72" Score="0" Text="To Law all are/should be treated the same. Because one trains martial arts, that doesn´t make him a bad and gruelsome person and especially not a weapon. A Black Belt doesn´t mean he can fight on the street. What if a Soccer player hurts someone in a fight, is his leg treated as a weapon.. because he kicks a lot? ... my 2 cents" CreationDate="2016-02-26T10:02:17.310" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12768" PostId="6081" Score="1" Text="Nice point of view on legal side. But that's largely what's wrong with this world today. The 12 year olds are at sensei's responsibility, while the sensei has little options to discipline the kids. Anyway, I think the instructor did not intend to &quot;take away&quot; (as in take ownership of) the belt, but rather make it clear that the student no more has the rank. Here in Finland demotion is not even possible (I think) because graduating ranks are reported to an umbrella organisation, and the student could just continue training his earned rank at another dojo." CreationDate="2016-02-26T15:24:14.670" UserId="6488" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12769" PostId="6083" Score="0" Text="I practice shorinjiryu karatedo, which shares its roots with shotokan karatedo, and your graph is pretty spot on. As for the &quot;turning on the ball of your foot&quot; part, Pinan/Heian Shodan is a very basic and linear kata, involving few turns. In the video you linked, you can see he is turning from a position of power, using his back leg as a support and simply shifting is foot to the proper direction using his heel as a pivot. In actual combat, this might not be possible, as your opponent will not be static, but katas are where you try to train with &quot;perfect&quot; form." CreationDate="2016-02-26T15:49:09.723" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12770" PostId="6083" Score="0" Text="Interesting, so are you saying the heel is the pivot point, i.e. the weight is in the heel as you pivot?" CreationDate="2016-02-26T15:52:19.883" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12771" PostId="6081" Score="0" Text="{nods} Although I'd argue that this is also what's &quot;wrong&quot; with a commercial setup for martial arts schools. I certainly don't begrudge instructors a living, but the introduction of money into the equations tends to lead to mandatory testing fees, McDojos, the need to retain marginal or troublesome students for financial purposes, etc." CreationDate="2016-02-26T16:25:10.120" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12772" PostId="6081" Score="0" Text="In some schools, it's customary to take a student's belt when the student receives the next rank. This is even after a &quot;belt fee&quot; where the student pays $20 for the belt itself. If you read the contract, the instructor has the right to take those belts away for any reason at any time. At least with those schools. It's not exactly theft, since the student agrees to the terms and conditions of the contract. What you're paying for, then, is not the belt but the ability to wear the belt. I doubt anyone would sue, though, over a $10-$20 belt. :)" CreationDate="2016-02-26T18:06:15.510" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12773" PostId="6072" Score="0" Text="Ah. That's the one I'm most familiar with. Jook lum gee tong long pai. And it really is a front-on fighting system, with special internal mechanics, the use of the phoenix eye fist to attack vital points, chi-sao drills, throwing, and joint locking. Cool looking style. Very traditional. Difficult for outsiders to understand just looking at it what it's doing and why." CreationDate="2016-02-26T18:10:20.573" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12777" PostId="6081" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand, I know we're only talking about colored ranks here, but black belts can cost $100+ for registration fees, monogramming, etc...  Who typically &quot;owns&quot; those belts? Does the contract specify ownership over a physical belt?" CreationDate="2016-02-26T20:23:24.910" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12778" PostId="6081" Score="0" Text="I think it's probably a legal grey area. By the way, most karate and TKD schools award 1st degree black belt &quot;recommended&quot; at first (no stripes), and then 1st degree black belt &quot;decided&quot; (one stripe) after testing again. The &quot;recommended&quot; black belt is seen as probational. If you do not test for and achieve the &quot;decided&quot; rank within a certain amount of time after receiving the &quot;recommended&quot; rank, your black belt is supposed to be taken away, and you are automatically demoted to non-black-belt status. Whether they actually physically take the belt, it's up to them." CreationDate="2016-02-26T22:36:51.667" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12779" PostId="6083" Score="0" Text="I also concur with this. There is another aspect to the positioning of the knee: you risk ligament injury around the knee if it is repeatedly incorrectly positioned. There's also the mechanics of it - the knee is strongest when between the ankle and the toe." CreationDate="2016-02-27T04:48:44.010" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12780" PostId="6074" Score="0" Text="This is exactly why you train for endless numbers of hours - so that you can hit spots when you need to, and you've already encountered most complications by the time you need to use the techniques for real." CreationDate="2016-02-27T04:55:19.700" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12781" PostId="6074" Score="0" Text="The only possibility I see them work, would be in close range like clinching or on the ground. Wherever there is space for punches, I dont think your opponent will let you 'touch' those pressure points or maybe for releasing a specific hold ex full nelson or similar. I would like to see the proof of it that it works in a real fight! A Video would be of great value." CreationDate="2016-02-27T06:44:35.457" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12782" PostId="6077" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann thanks Dave.  Re the legality of low kicks - appreciate the correction; I remembered reading something about MMA not allowing it, but turns out that's under amateur rules ([here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_martial_arts_rules)).  Some interesting discussion of it [here](http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1376559-kick-out-those-push-kicks-on-the-knees-please)." CreationDate="2016-02-27T14:31:45.987" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12783" PostId="6083" Score="0" Text="@TheWudangKid - It's mostly used for 90 degrees turns on the front leg's side (i.e. turning left when left leg is in front). It looks &quot;sharper&quot; for kata exams, as you minimize movement. We usually agree that it's not practical when moving around in a fight, however, so we have other exercises to practice movement in general." CreationDate="2016-02-27T15:25:36.553" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12784" PostId="6083" Score="2" Text="Weve always been taught never ever pivot on your heel." CreationDate="2016-02-27T23:58:18.527" UserId="6124" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12785" PostId="6080" Score="1" Text="That helps immensely.   It was not made clear whether the rank was lost or the actual belt and it would seem that makes a difference as well.  Thanks for taking the time to help with this." CreationDate="2016-02-28T00:25:19.870" UserId="6784" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12786" PostId="6081" Score="0" Text="You all have given me some very useful food for thought.  It was not clear whether it was the rank that was taken or the physical belt.  In any case, I agree in that there would not be any thought of legal action in this instance." CreationDate="2016-02-28T00:27:24.910" UserId="6784" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12787" PostId="6074" Score="0" Text="You can leverage some spots while clinching, but the better time to hit them is while closing or grappling. You are right that nobody is going to let you walk up and hit a spot, but that's why you train in combinations and kata - you may need several moves to set up for the final one. In the linked video in the question the last demo was the most accurate, a kick is used to position the opponent before moving and finishing them." CreationDate="2016-02-28T01:14:35.600" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12788" PostId="6081" Score="0" Text="Oh, actually filing a suit is unlikely. However, this can be the sort of thing that can lead to lost revenues if a parent makes a stink about it. I know that I had a case where, when I was a little bit late for class due to ice and my instructor said I'd have to sit out, my Dad threatened to end the contract and get the remaining money back and suddenly, I was back in the class. Although he did have a point, that we were only late due to bad weather..." CreationDate="2016-02-28T05:34:03.390" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12790" PostId="6092" Score="0" Text="Dear @mitro, as an expert in Krav Maga this question stems from a need to add some techniques of BJJ to Krav Maga. So it might sound a way but it is very practical. Concerning my previous question - as can be seen from the popularity I think many people are interested in. I'll be glad if you can answer my question and give specific examples for the technique." CreationDate="2016-02-28T16:37:56.263" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12791" PostId="6092" Score="2" Text="You should be more specific with your questions, that's all I would like to see as I really cant answer something that is really depending on the situation. - better methods/techniques for ground street fight?? BJJ is a martial art with a lot of techniques focusing on ground techniques ... which one you mean? In Krav-Maga it is priority to avoid the ground but being able to get out of different holds etc. to get up again. ... thanks" CreationDate="2016-02-28T16:55:55.993" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12792" PostId="6092" Score="0" Text="Thanks a lot again. I'll try to add an example that might add some insight to the question/ answer. Suppose a heavy person sits on your bally. The BJJ there is a way to bridge your back and trow him away is it practical in street fight?" CreationDate="2016-02-28T17:03:15.217" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12793" PostId="6092" Score="0" Text="@Avi You should rewrite your question to ask specifically about your more specific question. (The answer is that, yes, BJJ players have a little bit of experience in that situation.)" CreationDate="2016-02-28T17:17:59.203" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12795" PostId="6092" Score="2" Text="You're asking multiple questions here.  You'd be better off splitting them up.  &quot;Is BJJ useful in a street fight and what evidence is there?&quot; &quot;Is this specific technique practical in a fight?&quot; etc." CreationDate="2016-02-28T19:31:33.527" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12797" PostId="6083" Score="0" Text="I've done both WTF and ATA tkd (And my first year of MA was shotokan), and you are right on on all counts." CreationDate="2016-02-29T02:34:05.673" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12799" PostId="6086" Score="5" Text="Possible duplicate of [Solo martial art learning](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/3129/solo-martial-art-learning) and/or [How should a novice train if unable to join a dojo yet?](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/1753/82)." CreationDate="2016-02-29T07:56:09.540" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12800" PostId="6086" Score="1" Text="[This is what I would answer this question with](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/1756/82) but there might be others who have personal experience of HEMA who might disagree." CreationDate="2016-02-29T07:58:18.850" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12801" PostId="4807" Score="0" Text="&quot;kung fu techniques are too deadly&quot;, do people who say that have a point, or is this just wishful thinking?" CreationDate="2016-02-29T12:44:53.580" UserId="6787" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12803" PostId="4807" Score="0" Text="@WayneEra They actually believe it. They point to eye gouges, vital point strikes, testicle ripping, etc. They say it's an integral part of their system, so competition is not possible. The counter argument is that if they need these techniques in order to compete, it must mean they believe their style to be weak. Also, even when more permissive rules have allowed these techniques, kung-fu practitioners haven't demonstrated they can actually use them in competition. The reason is that they never get a chance. They would need a &quot;delivery system&quot; to use them, which their styles don't teach." CreationDate="2016-02-29T17:54:21.623" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12805" PostId="6099" Score="0" Text="You see. my main goal is not to be perfect at handling a sword, but more like doing some kind of moving meditation, and I don't like kendo all that much. So I guess I'll be starting Iaido and see where it goes from there. Maybe I'll end up doing both anyways. Thanks a lot for the answer, very complete" CreationDate="2016-03-01T13:06:29.840" UserId="6803" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12806" PostId="6098" Score="0" Text="You might also speak with the teacher and find out whether he's saying that one is indispensable to the other or if he was just saying that he only teaches them as a bundle for financial reasons. If it's the latter, it might still work out for you if the price is right." CreationDate="2016-03-01T13:51:20.520" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12807" PostId="6098" Score="0" Text="When I asked him, he said that this was the &quot;philosophy&quot; of the dojo, one without the other one is like crippled. And so, they don't teach them separately." CreationDate="2016-03-01T14:28:23.023" UserId="6803" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12808" PostId="6098" Score="0" Text="Ah. That's fair. Best of luck finding another school." CreationDate="2016-03-01T14:33:08.373" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12809" PostId="6099" Score="0" Text="Iaido sounds like a perfect match for what you're looking for, then. I think you're right to pursue it. You might also consider Tai Chi." CreationDate="2016-03-01T15:27:42.610" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12810" PostId="6101" Score="2" Text="@css1971 I would recommend writing your own answer rather than substantially rewriting someone else's answer." CreationDate="2016-03-01T16:09:32.240" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12811" PostId="6099" Score="0" Text="I did try a class, I didn't like the fact that it was focused on health and kind of therapy instead of being strictly a martial art. Plus, it's Chinese, not Japanese(Yep, what you've just read). So, going with iaido." CreationDate="2016-03-01T17:24:51.303" UserId="6803" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12812" PostId="6099" Score="1" Text="Well you did say you wanted more of a meditative style, like that was the main focus. Tai Chi gives you that. But as for the martial aspect of it, if it wasn't for the prejudice against Chinese martial arts, I would suggest you look at a Chen style Tai Chi school instead. Chen style generally keeps its martial art quality intact. Whereas 99% of other Tai Chi schools you might run into are exactly as you described. Chen style Tai Chi is not. But it doesn't matter. You've found something that interests you in Iaido. Pursue that and have a good time." CreationDate="2016-03-01T18:02:40.947" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12813" PostId="6103" Score="0" Text="I absolutely agree with you but just to be nit-picky and semantic I think your first and last sentences need to be refined: stances are static  and prescriptive but it is a mistake to think you only stand/fight statically in stances. Your *movement* is dynamic, stances are finishing positions, they are part of the delivery of a technique (after which you move on). Stances are static but everything around them is dynamic. But still a good answer :)" CreationDate="2016-03-01T21:31:44.640" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12814" PostId="6103" Score="1" Text="I think they went wrong when they went through and catalogued all of the stances. Put them in boxes. I'm pretty sure the old Okinawans originally simply said lean back, lunge forwards. It's really not a good way to teach people movement." CreationDate="2016-03-01T22:20:07.653" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12815" PostId="6107" Score="0" Text="So aikido, tae kwon do, Brazilian jiujitsu, Okinawan karate, and boxing are all remarkably similar? This is like saying that yoga, Olympic lifting, and basketball are remarkably similar and contain the same techniques because they all involve raising the arms overhead. You're just excluding contradictory information with a No True Scotsman fallacy." CreationDate="2016-03-02T13:23:02.080" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12816" PostId="6107" Score="0" Text="You're mistaking modern combat sports and &quot;do&quot; martial arts which have little to to nothing to do with defending yourself with those historical martial arts which were used on a daily basis." CreationDate="2016-03-02T13:38:10.493" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12817" PostId="6107" Score="0" Text="TKD, BJJ and boxing are combat sports rather than martial arts. They look the way they do because they have to conform to competition rule sets. Aikido bears little resemblance to the original ju-jutsu it descended from, having lost most &quot;martial&quot; aspects. When you apply aikido techniques realistically, it looks just like the original art. Of the list mentioned, only karate largely retains it's martial art, and even there the competitive, combat sport karate bears little to no resemblance to how it was originally used." CreationDate="2016-03-02T13:51:05.193" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12818" PostId="6107" Score="2" Text="That would be a No True Scotsman fallacy, and not a particularly convincing one to boot. A) while BJJ has a competitive outlet, it also has extensive noncompetitive self-defense curricula oriented towards an opponent using strikes in street clothes; the same goes for Jack Dempsey's boxing B) Your &quot;historical&quot; karate ryu of choice—or Aikido, or whatever you're not No True Scotsmanning out of contention—doesn't have more than a few minor overlaps with Beni Hasan. BJJ, in fact, probably has more in common!" CreationDate="2016-03-02T13:54:23.413" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12819" PostId="6107" Score="0" Text="Taking karate as an example. It has over the last 80 years or so developed from a martial art suitable for self defence into a combat sport of no appreciable martial value. Both aspects use the word &quot;karate&quot; to describe them. Examples of competitive karate:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9kxtJpRmw4 . More historically accurate karate techniques https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jdx5EWuxUs0 It's very clear that they are very... entirely different despite the name. One is a sport, the other is a martial art. Anyone who believes otherwise is simply delusional." CreationDate="2016-03-02T14:12:06.110" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12820" PostId="6107" Score="0" Text="Nobody is talking about competitive karate except you? Look, the majority of practitioners of the following arts consider their training self-defense yet don't look remotely similar to each other: krav maga, BJJ (or Gracie JJ if you want to rrrrrrreally force the self-defense angle), aikido, Okinawan non-sport karate." CreationDate="2016-03-02T14:18:52.030" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12821" PostId="6107" Score="0" Text="**Comments are not for discussions.** Maybe move to chat?" CreationDate="2016-03-02T14:20:03.963" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12822" PostId="6046" Score="0" Text="It's worth pointing out that the jump kicker will only be adding most of their weight to the kick's power if they strike their target after the apex of their jump's arc. However, their mass is still constant during the ascent, and inertia can be a bitch." CreationDate="2016-03-02T17:31:17.187" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12823" PostId="6101" Score="1" Text="I would have done, user6807 and I are the same person. There was some login weirdness when I created the answer." CreationDate="2016-03-02T19:29:22.210" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12824" PostId="6101" Score="0" Text="Is the knee joint attack performed with the hands at the knee, or as some sort of toe hold or heel hook? I can't imagine a successful joint attack with just the hands directly against the knee unless there was an enormous size disparity." CreationDate="2016-03-02T20:42:28.287" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12825" PostId="6110" Score="0" Text="As you say, it'd have been a well established technique with longswords long before the time basket hilts became common. Breastplates weren't uncommon with mounted troops in particular, right up till the 19th century.If you're up close in a press, or just any time you needed better leverage." CreationDate="2016-03-03T10:23:33.480" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12826" PostId="5308" Score="0" Text="I'm somewhat skeptical of soto-uke. The only place I can find it is in Passai - Bassai Dai. It isn't in any of the earlier katas that quite literally all of the other kihon originates from. In Passai, it's simply a component of a leg scoop and throw. So not really a block, or even a lock as such." CreationDate="2016-03-03T11:21:25.967" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12827" PostId="5306" Score="0" Text="Given that all the kihon technqiues come from kata, and within the katas most of the techniques are grappling related. Doesn't it behoof all karateka to practice the techniques? Otherwise what's the point? More to the point Funakoshi and all the other old masters included the grappling methods as well as striking." CreationDate="2016-03-03T11:24:33.640" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12828" PostId="5308" Score="0" Text="@css1971 Yeah, soto uke (and some other basic &quot;blocks&quot;) are in few katas. It makes for a simple and easy to communicate/understand example though." CreationDate="2016-03-03T11:58:04.817" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12829" PostId="6112" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site.  Your question has several problems: first, it is about medical advice which is off topic.  Second, we are not a forum, we are a question and answer site.  Please take the [tour](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour) as it explains what we are and what we do in details." CreationDate="2016-03-03T14:25:03.280" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12830" PostId="6112" Score="1" Text="I am sorry if it came across as asking for medical advice, my intention was to ask on advice on the technique of the slow breathing exercises to check if I am maybe overdoing it/doing it wrong and if there is any way i can improve/practice this at home. Feel free to close my question if it doesnt fit the topic of the site. I am aware of the Q&amp;A style of stackexchange, but i see i might have worded my question badly. If you could help me make it more appropiate to the format i am happy to edit it." CreationDate="2016-03-03T14:34:05.057" UserId="6821" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12831" PostId="6112" Score="1" Text="I'd recommend editing it significantly to be *about the proper way to pace your breath* during Tai Chi practice.  We have [this question](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/2370/yang-tai-chi-breathing-when-to-inhale-exhale) which is about Tai Chi breathing and may be of some assistance, but is not an exact duplicate of your question." CreationDate="2016-03-03T14:55:36.887" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12833" PostId="6113" Score="0" Text="Your link to Pinan Shodan application contains no text." CreationDate="2016-03-03T15:47:22.867" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12834" PostId="6113" Score="0" Text="Is katapedia your own site?" CreationDate="2016-03-03T15:56:32.280" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12835" PostId="6113" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion https://www.reddit.com/r/karate/comments/48ag1w/discovering_kata_against_an_mma_cage/d0jwcps" CreationDate="2016-03-03T16:09:55.993" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12836" PostId="6113" Score="0" Text="@TheWudangKid - fixed link ." CreationDate="2016-03-03T16:11:43.900" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12837" PostId="6113" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion - I created the site, but it's an open access wiki." CreationDate="2016-03-03T16:11:54.400" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12838" PostId="6114" Score="0" Text="Thank you for your answer! This is really quite helpful to me, even if it seems like simple advice. I guess i just didnt want to not follow the instructor if I was supposed to. I will practice at home from now on too! I will wait till tonight to mark it as accepted :)" CreationDate="2016-03-03T16:45:03.783" UserId="6821" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12840" PostId="6003" Score="1" Text="@mattm, that question relates to tournaments, whereas this question is asking about techniques for self-defence, so not quite a duplicate." CreationDate="2016-03-04T10:08:53.523" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12841" PostId="6112" Score="0" Text="Best person to ask would be your instructor, since he/she can see what you're doing! Also, if you're blood pressure drops that significantly through breathing exercises, you really should see a doctor!" CreationDate="2016-03-04T10:11:47.007" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12842" PostId="6101" Score="0" Text="It's leverage attack. You anchor the knee, and pull the foot round laterally. Having said that. While I've practised it to tap out, i've never actually dislocated someone's knee. From experience it applies pressure to knee and hip joints." CreationDate="2016-03-04T12:23:45.957" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12843" PostId="6112" Score="0" Text="It was definitely due to me trying to breathe at the pace of the instructor! I paid attention to breathe at my own pace yesterday and was fine! :D Thanks everyone!" CreationDate="2016-03-04T13:30:57.360" UserId="6821" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12844" PostId="6101" Score="0" Text="@css1971 I've taken the liberty of starting the process of merging the user6807 user with you. It should be complete in the next 24 hours or so." CreationDate="2016-03-05T00:49:38.827" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12845" PostId="5717" Score="1" Text="@TopinFrassi It means don't get the leg over, then pull their arm, then squeeze the knees, but rather get the leg over, squeeze the knees, then pull the arm." CreationDate="2016-03-06T22:03:28.530" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12847" PostId="6124" Score="0" Text="This &quot;Data has been gathered from a Home Office study group formed to investigate violence within modern society.&quot; However, there is no link to said study, its findings, or anything but vague references to it. Furthermore &quot;Therefore when defending yourself, Show No Mercy.&quot; shows a candid attitude to the [law in the UK](http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/self_defence). [Just because you are attacked, does not give you carte blanche](http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/self_defence/#Reasonable_Force)." CreationDate="2016-03-07T12:58:27.367" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12848" PostId="6124" Score="0" Text="&quot;most martial arts were designed originally to help deal with these most common types of violence&quot; — even if this were true, which is *highly* dubitable, it is fairly reliable that habitual acts of violence change over time and space, therefore what an urban Japanese man in 1850 needed to deal with might be irrelevant to a rural Californian woman." CreationDate="2016-03-07T17:06:22.177" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12849" PostId="6124" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion - good point, I don't have a link to the original report. It's likely that neither are online at all. I've therefore updated the link to point at JWT's blog instead." CreationDate="2016-03-07T17:21:43.450" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12850" PostId="6124" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann it's fairly likely that an urban Chinese/Japanese man in 1850 would be attacked in a similar manner to an urban Chinese/Japanese man today, or indeed an urban English/American man today. Humans simply haven't changed so very much over time or space. Prevalence of firearms in specific countries is probably the largest change." CreationDate="2016-03-07T17:27:48.403" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12851" PostId="6124" Score="1" Text="Human morphology doesn't vary much across the parameters I describe. Human culture, which strongly affects the particular manifestations of aggressive, territorial, and predatory behavior, certainly does." CreationDate="2016-03-07T19:49:24.067" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12852" PostId="4288" Score="0" Text="Warm-up link appears broken" CreationDate="2016-03-07T20:25:54.797" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12853" PostId="6124" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann While it's plausible, do you have data to back it up? It'd certainly be useful in providing insight on the people who created katas and forms. I've found general stats are easily available but are usually of little to no use describing &quot;Attack modality&quot;." CreationDate="2016-03-07T21:19:13.567" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12854" PostId="6124" Score="0" Text="None of us have high-quality data to answer this question even for the modern USA, much less for mid-19th-century China. We do have qualitative historical reports that venture specific variations, e.g. the importance of wrist grabs in feudal Japan, but otherwise no." CreationDate="2016-03-07T21:47:39.050" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12855" PostId="6124" Score="0" Text="Let us [continue this discussion in chat](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/36671/discussion-between-css1971-and-dave-liepmann)." CreationDate="2016-03-07T22:41:20.923" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12856" PostId="6127" Score="0" Text="Thanks @Sardathrion, Can you direct me to video that shows how to escape?" CreationDate="2016-03-08T08:16:04.790" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12859" PostId="6127" Score="0" Text="Thanks. If you suffer from pain and the catch includes both twist and lock of both elbow and wrist at the same time is there a way to escape from such position?" CreationDate="2016-03-08T08:27:58.827" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12860" PostId="6127" Score="0" Text="@avi: No... Maybe...  Yes...  With ifs you can put Paris in a bottle. ^_~" CreationDate="2016-03-08T08:47:14.223" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12861" PostId="6128" Score="0" Text="Thanks @slugster♦, is there a way I can see how to place the forehead at the back of the wrist? and if catch includes both twist and lock of both elbow and wrist at the same time is there a way to escape from such position?" CreationDate="2016-03-08T08:48:21.643" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12862" PostId="6128" Score="1" Text="When we do tenkai toke hineri, uke's hand is rotated towards their arm pit with the elbow high. In that position, putting your forehead to the back of your hand would require some amazing flexibility. I'll give it a try next time I train! Thanks." CreationDate="2016-03-08T08:50:06.977" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12863" PostId="6126" Score="2" Text="This question would be vastly improved if you clarified whether you are interested in escapes within the bounds of normal aikido practice, or a self defence situation: for the latter, a side or back kick into the knee is an easy option." CreationDate="2016-03-08T15:04:04.700" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12864" PostId="6126" Score="1" Text="Thanks @TonyD, I am interested in self defense. Although back kick might be an option in case of such a grip the pain in tremendous. So practically this option is very limited. I'll be glad if someone would give a complete solution to overcome the pain with combination with escape/ rellease." CreationDate="2016-03-08T17:02:31.173" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12865" PostId="6129" Score="0" Text="Thanks @Bankuei, your solution is very nice. However the grip is very painful. In order to counter grip you have to overcome the pain. I saw an additional way that the grip is both to the elbow and wrist with twist. Can you relate how to counter in a painful situation (that is very common in these situations)?" CreationDate="2016-03-08T18:16:17.343" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12866" PostId="6126" Score="1" Text="The &quot;movie move&quot; is a front flip, but somehow I doubt that would work too well in a real life scenario :-)" CreationDate="2016-03-08T18:48:29.537" UserId="6832" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12867" PostId="3130" Score="1" Text="@user1095108 - if you have a sentient DVD that *watches you back*, then sure, it's the same." CreationDate="2016-03-08T18:51:55.847" UserId="6832" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12868" PostId="6126" Score="1" Text="I can do a forward roll from this.  That works but if they know the move they can pin you afterwards." CreationDate="2016-03-08T20:37:16.303" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12869" PostId="6129" Score="1" Text="My point about the guy reaching for a countergrip in the video isn't that countergripping is useful, it's that it shows you can REACH the grabber's hand in order to strike it.   The strike is a gross motor movement, which is quick and easier to do while in pain than anything complex." CreationDate="2016-03-08T21:10:25.170" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12870" PostId="6129" Score="1" Text="It doesn't matter if they grip both the elbow and wrist - what matters is what angle they put your arm at.  If they get your arm behind you, you can't slam their gripping hand.  If they stand at the side (which is what happens in most of the video) you can reach it and hit it.  Once the wrist lock is released, the tendon strain is gone." CreationDate="2016-03-08T21:12:21.723" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12871" PostId="6129" Score="0" Text="Thanks. If the rival gets your arm behind you, what can be done in order to escape?" CreationDate="2016-03-08T21:32:58.153" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12872" PostId="6129" Score="0" Text="Avi - did you look at the Master Wong video I linked a few weeks ago against hammerlocks? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMC_uLjzEZ0  However, the best solution is to stop a lock before it gets fully in.  Your options become very limited when someone has a good lock and your back at the same time." CreationDate="2016-03-08T23:01:52.203" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12873" PostId="6070" Score="1" Text="I'd have to get a partner and play with it, but along with Huw Evans, the leg is a big problem.  The locked partner can slam his knee forward into the inside of the grabber's leg, taking out some of his balance.  It's a risk, because if they fall wrong you get your wrist tendons torn.  However, as always, there's a lot of options before that lock is fully set in, which is the better way to deal with those attempts." CreationDate="2016-03-08T23:08:43.990" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12874" PostId="6129" Score="0" Text="Yes, I've already seen it. My problem exits when you are already locked both in elbow and wrist with twist behind. It can be done in few seconds. I would like to know what to do. In Master Wong video there is no wrist lock from behind and the movement to stop it is very time consuming." CreationDate="2016-03-08T23:20:08.390" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12875" PostId="6129" Score="1" Text="Consider: 1. it is very quick to hit the hand grabbing you BEFORE they get the full lock on.  2. Yes, you end up doing suboptimal solutions once you've gotten deep into a lock, because if it was not a good position for the grabber, they wouldn't use it.   I'm not sure what magical solution you're looking for?" CreationDate="2016-03-09T04:12:35.183" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12876" PostId="6131" Score="0" Text="If you say *This is also too broad a question to realistically answer.* then you should not answer the question but vote to close." CreationDate="2016-03-09T07:57:02.903" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12877" PostId="6129" Score="1" Text="**Comments are neither for discussion nor for answering questions!**" CreationDate="2016-03-09T07:58:20.420" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12878" PostId="6130" Score="0" Text="I have done this technique on people fully resisting and with close fists. It is not pretty but tenkai kote hineri does work just fine. You do need balance breaking. A lot of balance breaking." CreationDate="2016-03-09T08:00:43.390" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12880" PostId="6130" Score="0" Text="True, but the question was about the grip not the rest of the techniques from that grip. There are many other options for escape if you have your closed fist gripped I didn't mention these but I could add them." CreationDate="2016-03-09T10:29:22.920" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12881" PostId="6130" Score="0" Text="There are also better techniques to choose if you are gripping the fist." CreationDate="2016-03-09T10:33:38.253" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12882" PostId="6126" Score="0" Text="@TonyD: I think the self defence tag would make this question too broad.  [Should the `self defense` tag be burninated?](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/407/82)" CreationDate="2016-03-09T10:43:48.330" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12883" PostId="6129" Score="1" Text="@Bankuei can you summarize some of those comments into your answer? I can then clean up the discussion." CreationDate="2016-03-09T12:29:30.700" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12884" PostId="6121" Score="0" Text="Can you clarify the question please? Is this a duel between consenting participants, or a case of self defence? With respect to self defence, it's generally unlikely you would be given an option and if you can gain distance, then you run." CreationDate="2016-03-09T14:46:48.533" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12885" PostId="3087" Score="0" Text="I disagree that this is a duplicate question. What are the purpose, and how do you use are different questions. I'll update my answer in &quot;what are the purposes of martial arts forms&quot; with some how to use information." CreationDate="2016-03-09T15:20:10.793" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12886" PostId="6133" Score="1" Text="Bone II is the [tibia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leg_bone).  Are you asking why muay thai fighters don't execute a low round kick with the tibia?  The kick you posted could only be executed with the frontal part of the leg as the point of contact.  If you kicked with the tibia instead, it would be a different kick.  Maybe you mean, why don't MT fighters do a low hook-kick instead of a round kick? Please clarify." CreationDate="2016-03-09T15:58:33.640" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12887" PostId="6133" Score="0" Text="Oh... so you mean the kick with this tibia is actually the kick from the other side of the leg(the back side - &quot;gastrocnemius muscle&quot;), right? And correct me if I'm wrong, the block is also done with the frontal part of the leg. Thank you!" CreationDate="2016-03-09T16:27:39.607" UserId="6835" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12888" PostId="6133" Score="0" Text="Yes, I'm saying the tibia is the rear bone of the leg, and therefore would not be in a position to deliver a round kick or to block one.  That said, now that you've clarified, I believe I can answer your question properly." CreationDate="2016-03-09T16:29:47.147" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12889" PostId="6121" Score="0" Text="It is about self defence. I think there are occasions that close distance would be better if the rival is very good with legs or has a long stick for instance." CreationDate="2016-03-09T16:48:53.677" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12896" PostId="6135" Score="0" Text="Wow, this is hard to watch. But this is actually the thing I was heard about - that people brake legs because of this blocks and in muay thai they use it very carefully and more to the upper body(to avoid the leg-block). But it's confusing to me... how is this block actually done? with the same part of the leg or with combination of the back part(if so, how?!). It's even more confusing now(kidding), but I really appreciate your help! thanks!)" CreationDate="2016-03-09T17:31:40.243" UserId="6835" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12897" PostId="6135" Score="0" Text="No problem.  Glad to help.  If you want an answer to &quot;How is this block actually done?&quot; I recommend posting a new question, because it is significantly different from this question.  Don't forget, you can upvote answers and questions that you like (Hint: mine).  Please [take the tour](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour) to find out how our site works." CreationDate="2016-03-09T17:34:58.330" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12898" PostId="6086" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion Yes, you're right, I disagree. I'm also in the &quot;you-get-better-at-a-thing-by-doing-it&quot; school of thought, and I have the HEMA experience. I just didn't get to this answer until today, though. (I should check this site more often!)" CreationDate="2016-03-09T18:47:35.303" UserId="6374" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12899" PostId="6138" Score="0" Text="This post is a fine example of [good subjective](http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/09/good-subjective-bad-subjective/)." CreationDate="2016-03-09T19:22:06.113" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12900" PostId="6121" Score="0" Text="If self defence then you are very unlikely to be given space to choose to do anything. Your assailant will have chosen the timing and the location so that he has an overwhelming advantage, this may also mean weapons and accomplices." CreationDate="2016-03-09T21:19:18.903" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12901" PostId="6102" Score="1" Text="Very interesting last full paragraph." CreationDate="2016-03-09T21:30:38.580" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12902" PostId="6102" Score="1" Text="@DaveLiepmann Even though I practice one myself, I don't recommend anyone take a Chinese derived martial art that makes use of solo forms. It's a terrible way to learn a martial art and is quite literally backwards. It can double to triple the time required to become generally competent, many never do, especially recently given the enormous percentage of incompetent teachers. In general I point people wanting to learn Kung-fu, Karate or TKD towards Japanese Ju-Jutsu instead." CreationDate="2016-03-09T22:04:23.927" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12903" PostId="2876" Score="0" Text="Classical pugilists (bare knuckle) originally used vertical fist positioning for the same reasons. Horizontal fists became more common with gloves and the subsequent ability to punch harder." CreationDate="2016-03-09T22:32:38.727" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12908" PostId="819" Score="0" Text="The word translated as &quot;heal&quot; in from chinese more properly means &quot;relief  from symptoms&quot;, which is not what is meant when we say &quot;heal&quot;.&#xA;&#xA;Hironiri Ohtsuka Sr, orthopedic surgeon and founder of the Wado Ryu family of karate styles might even have given you an upvote for the comments about meridians, since he very specifically said they had no place in his martial arts style." CreationDate="2016-03-10T22:18:56.450" UserId="6599" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12910" PostId="2334" Score="0" Text="To borrow a phrase from an old movie, Best block Daniel-san, not be there" CreationDate="2016-03-11T04:11:14.560" UserId="6599" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12913" PostId="6153" Score="0" Text="I would like a reference to the last statement that &quot;Some aikido schools use a similar stance to invite certain types of attacks as a setup for a throw.&quot;" CreationDate="2016-03-11T09:22:39.420" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12914" PostId="6154" Score="1" Text="This might be closed as too broad although personally I think it is on the fine end of the boarder. I would hate to see this degenerate into a &quot;we do this in $style&quot; type of answers." CreationDate="2016-03-11T09:24:31.107" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12915" PostId="6154" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion I tried my best to ask this in a non-polling manner. Please suggest improvements if you can." CreationDate="2016-03-11T12:48:56.443" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12916" PostId="6154" Score="0" Text="I think it is fine as it stands but I am but one of many people on this site." CreationDate="2016-03-11T13:01:00.050" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12917" PostId="6155" Score="0" Text="If I reworded the question to &quot;should it be expected&quot;, then your answer is yes?" CreationDate="2016-03-11T13:01:23.410" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12918" PostId="6154" Score="0" Text="Maybe this could be improved if you specified which system you're talking about. I could go on from the HEMA perspective, but you may not be looking for that." CreationDate="2016-03-11T13:45:41.053" UserId="6374" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12919" PostId="6155" Score="0" Text="Yup. Should it be expected? Yes it should." CreationDate="2016-03-11T13:45:59.870" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12921" PostId="6153" Score="0" Text="My only reference for aikido is having been dumped on my head more than once in sparring when i misread this stance as a european fencing, much to everyone's amusement.  Since the gentlemen who did this were from different schools in different parts of the country, I conclude that &quot;some&quot; schools use it, but don't know how widespread it is." CreationDate="2016-03-11T15:06:33.257" UserId="6599" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12922" PostId="6154" Score="0" Text="@PipperChip This is almost a meta question; I am trying to understand what  others are looking for in their questions. I don't have a particular system in mind." CreationDate="2016-03-11T15:35:48.627" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12923" PostId="6156" Score="3" Text="This is pretty much my opinion on the issue. Not everything within a martial art will have direct combat application, but it should in some way contribute to the practitioner's overall martial prowess. It is unfair and unrealistic to expect every nuance of training to be directly translatable to combat effectiveness." CreationDate="2016-03-11T16:30:49.073" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12924" PostId="6154" Score="0" Text="@mattm Well, fine, I'll give you a HEMA perspective on this as another answer." CreationDate="2016-03-11T18:29:03.723" UserId="6374" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12925" PostId="6157" Score="0" Text="As a side note, and not really part of my answer: From talking with various practitioners, it seems the practicality of training stances, etc. depends on the objective of the martial art. HEMA systems focus purely on combat; there is no religious element like that found in some eastern martial arts. Eastern martial arts may therefore do things that make sense in a spiritual, not martial, perspective." CreationDate="2016-03-11T19:10:28.107" UserId="6374" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12926" PostId="6157" Score="0" Text="From the video: they need to mark the competitors more conspicuously. The red competitor's arm band is visible, but not as visible as his blue legging. The blue competitor's arm band is only visible after you know where to look, and the contrast against black is poor." CreationDate="2016-03-11T23:23:20.460" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12929" PostId="6157" Score="0" Text="@mattm take it up with the people at swordfish. In any case, they do use identifiable stances that people train in." CreationDate="2016-03-12T06:00:29.580" UserId="6374" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12931" PostId="6161" Score="1" Text="Your question is currently indistinguishable from a previous question, which it looks like is not properly linked to your account. If you have not received a satisfactory answer, you need to try to make the question more clear. Otherwise you will receive the same response." CreationDate="2016-03-12T13:48:15.170" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12933" PostId="6166" Score="1" Text="Expand on your &quot;decrepit old man&quot; feelings. What exactly are you feeling? Joint pain? Tendinitis? Muscle soreness? Describe the pain. Do your muscles ache and feel stiff? How soon after class do you feel this? After a night's sleep? Do you feel tired and lack energy the next day? Does it go away in class? And how often do you go to class? Once a week, twice a week, etc.? You've been going continuously for 18 months now?" CreationDate="2016-03-13T04:48:10.797" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12934" PostId="5465" Score="0" Text="There is politics, church politics, and martial arts politics." CreationDate="2016-03-13T05:06:29.120" UserId="6599" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12935" PostId="6166" Score="0" Text="Muscle weakness but not really sore or in any way painful. Knees and ankles feel a bit sore. I have arthritis in my big toe joint on my right foot. The accumulated result of several minor injuries over the course of my life. When it flares up it really hurts to the extent that I can only walk slowly with a limp. Bizarrely, it never flares up in class. I train at full intensity, ie at my personal physical limit, twice per week, for 2 hours each time. The decrepit feeling is most of the time except in class. It's like decrepit is my normal, but I become somebody else when training." CreationDate="2016-03-13T12:19:25.507" UserId="6847" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12936" PostId="6168" Score="0" Text="Thanks. I think you're right. I perhaps need to give my arthritic foot a bit of rest, and with luck, it will not hurt so much when I walk, which might enable me to be more motivated to do light training between martial arts classes." CreationDate="2016-03-13T21:05:36.217" UserId="6847" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12937" PostId="5705" Score="0" Text="My wife lost her acl in her teens.  Her acl was replaced with 1/3rd of her own patellar ligament in Canada, whose healthcare system is more similar to yours than the US system.  Other acl replacements are cadaver and kevlar.  The surgery is arhroscopic today, and straightforward enough that specialists book multiple back to back appointments in a day.  In the US, when the doctor thought she might have blown the replacement, they apologized that the next surgery day was next Tuesday." CreationDate="2016-03-13T22:35:54.473" UserId="6599" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12938" PostId="6166" Score="0" Text="The knee joint issues are common. One way to deal with it is to build your leg muscles around your knees (squats, deadlifts, lunges). How much protein (in grams) are you eating per day? Are you drinking or eating any carbohydrates immediately after working out (highly recommended by the way). How many calories are you eating per day, and is it enough for your size? Do you use a foam roller? Do you use ice? Do you get enough sleep? On your days off from martial arts, are you running or doing any cardio?" CreationDate="2016-03-14T03:47:52.547" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12939" PostId="6167" Score="0" Text="so than this means if I get stabbed it isn't like I didn't train enough?&#xA;I mean if it's true what you stated then even a pro can easily lose to a knife fight. &#xA;this means I don't need to feel bad if I fail defending myself. &#xA;of course always run away, but was just wondering." CreationDate="2016-03-14T09:26:53.930" UserId="6686" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12940" PostId="6171" Score="2" Text="-1. This is prime example of why I want to [burninate the `self defence` tag](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/407/82). It is a hypothetical situation. It covers so much ground that the only possible answer is &quot;it depends&quot;. It has no relation to any martial art whatsoever." CreationDate="2016-03-14T10:59:41.353" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12941" PostId="6167" Score="0" Text="Look for footage of trained police or soldiers dealing with a knife threat. Invariably, they try to keep their distance, and will try to use a weapon or improvised weapon in defence. These people are as highly trained as you can get." CreationDate="2016-03-14T12:47:14.173" UserId="6847" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12942" PostId="6167" Score="0" Text="Meant to add, in our school, we are taught that our knife defence is not to prevent getting cut, but to TRY to prevent any vital organs or arteries getting cut." CreationDate="2016-03-14T12:48:37.453" UserId="6847" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12945" PostId="6161" Score="0" Text="Which is itself noted to be very similar to his question before..." CreationDate="2016-03-14T14:37:58.417" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12946" PostId="6171" Score="0" Text="I would think wearing a motorcycle helmet would be a disadvantage because of weight, blind spots, and possibly the chance of it being spun around (depending on the fit)." CreationDate="2016-03-14T17:12:34.963" UserId="6636" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12947" PostId="6087" Score="0" Text="Related: http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/539/70" CreationDate="2016-03-14T22:54:44.587" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12948" PostId="5772" Score="0" Text="I don't have personal experience, though a quick google search for some of the Dog Brothers' stickfighting forums pulled up some recommendations for gloves including lacrosse gloves - that said, I don't know how much control you'll lose for the extra protection with that." CreationDate="2016-03-15T06:12:49.340" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12949" PostId="5772" Score="0" Text="sticks =/= steel longsword. Also red dragon gloves are like lacross but cheaper and harder." CreationDate="2016-03-15T08:08:37.260" UserId="6344" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12950" PostId="5772" Score="0" Text="Yes, sticks are lighter and not edged (even blunted edged), however the Dog Brothers folks go very, very hard and do direct hand shots a lot." CreationDate="2016-03-15T19:31:23.037" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12951" PostId="6167" Score="2" Text="I can't make the edit, because it's so small, but I think you intended to write &quot;1 in 20&quot; not &quot;1 in 25&quot;" CreationDate="2016-03-16T04:00:33.180" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12952" PostId="2110" Score="0" Text="Apologies for such a late reply. The towel has two purposes. Speed and precision. Hit it too slowly (not actually slow, just, slow for a strike?) or hit too far forward like you are going through the towel, and you get water on you. It helps you learn the right distance to hit, helps you learn control as trying to push through with the punch (which leads to elbow injuries) will get water on you, and again, strike fast enough and you wont get wet." CreationDate="2016-03-16T10:09:39.763" UserId="1198" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12953" PostId="6196" Score="1" Text="Please do not use profanity in your posts. They are automatically flagged and users need to work to clean it up." CreationDate="2016-03-16T11:46:39.630" UserDisplayName="user6827" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12954" PostId="6196" Score="1" Text="@Mike please do not make edits leaving profanity in posts. Remove it. For the same reason as above." CreationDate="2016-03-16T11:47:10.350" UserDisplayName="user6827" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12955" PostId="6196" Score="1" Text="@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW; thank you for pointing out that I should have removed the profanity. I think, though, that it needed to be replaced with something otherwise the sentiment of the last point is lost." CreationDate="2016-03-16T13:58:28.797" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12956" PostId="6196" Score="1" Text="The term &quot;jerk&quot; seems to be the stackoverflow goto..." CreationDate="2016-03-16T14:06:19.730" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12957" PostId="6196" Score="1" Text="honest mistake. sorry 'bout that :)" CreationDate="2016-03-16T14:19:32.327" UserId="6766" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12958" PostId="6196" Score="1" Text="@MikeP yes I understand, I am in a room and receive notifications of profanity and spam for every Stack Exchange. It's my job to assist in removing it from the site. It's not viable for me to really worry about the quality of the edit, which is why I left a comment. I figured the experts in the area can then decide what adjective to use." CreationDate="2016-03-16T17:24:38.627" UserDisplayName="user6827" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12959" PostId="6196" Score="0" Text="@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW: WOW, what a thankless job!  Hope you're doing something fun as well! In any case, thank you! ^_~" CreationDate="2016-03-17T08:26:18.483" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12960" PostId="6196" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion I have a ball in [chat](http://chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/41570/so-close-vote-reviewers) with my regulars :) and I work online so it's pretty easy, I get notifications and visit the site and flag (or edit) and report the flag to the smoke detector bot in [here](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/11540/charcoal-hq)(" CreationDate="2016-03-17T09:28:51.157" UserDisplayName="user6827" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12961" PostId="6181" Score="0" Text="While spinning kicks weren't tremendously popular in sports such as TKD prior to the 1970s, we have photographic proof that they did exist there and in martial arts such as Capoeira." CreationDate="2016-03-17T12:14:13.883" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12962" PostId="6181" Score="0" Text="Can you provide a link to a pre 1950's ish example?" CreationDate="2016-03-17T12:52:21.670" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12963" PostId="6181" Score="0" Text="Here's a video recorded in 1950 itself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCtq7C2_7fU I'll look for some pictures, but finding ones with dates associated with them is trickier." CreationDate="2016-03-17T13:17:03.653" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12964" PostId="6181" Score="0" Text="I will give you that it doesn't show up in TKD prior to 1950, namely because TKD really didn't exist before then. ^_^ Taekkyon has references to spinning kicks and &quot;wheel kicks&quot;, but I haven't found a picture and a number of people seem to dispute that they actually existed." CreationDate="2016-03-17T13:30:37.093" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12965" PostId="6181" Score="0" Text="When martial arts stop being used &quot;in anger&quot;, they start adding &quot;cruft&quot; to them. With TKD, it's silly kicks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV2ViNJFZC8" CreationDate="2016-03-17T14:51:15.307" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12969" PostId="6198" Score="1" Text="Thanks for your thorough notes here. I am finding much of what you are suggesting in your post.  I come from a hard martial art background (Korean Taekwondo and Hapkido) and I like the intentional focus upon feeling that is present in Tai Chi/Taiji.  I can also see the relation between Tai Chi and the Korean arts, but a definite focus difference (at least from classes that sport or technique rather than whole body focused).  Thank you." CreationDate="2016-03-18T21:07:11.233" UserId="1513" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12970" PostId="6013" Score="0" Text="The video shows a basic reverse kick, not a spinning reverse kick. To spin, i mean, is to spin in the air, with both feet off the ground." CreationDate="2016-03-19T03:45:03.947" UserId="1268" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12971" PostId="6198" Score="0" Text="@iowatiger08 To some degree, all martial arts are related. The founders of Taiji learned external shaolin-based martial arts. And Taekwondo comes from karate which came from shaolin kung-fu. Taiji looks externally similar to other stuff, in particular shaolin kung-fu. But it is unique in the way it applies internal mechanics to every martial technique it does. You could, theoretically, apply internal mechanics even to something like Taekwondo or Hapkido. It's just a different way of moving. And yes, it definitely needs to have whole-body integration in order for it to be correct. Good luck!" CreationDate="2016-03-19T16:51:04.087" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12972" PostId="4807" Score="0" Text="Regarding &quot;techniques being too deadly&quot;, I trained in kung fu and kick boxing - very amateur at both - It is as you say, I could not easily apply the &quot;art&quot; of kung fu in kick-boxing sparing, but there where definitely benefits in power and structure. I trained hard to be able to do 2 finger press-ups (straight fingers not bent hanging off the tendons) to allow spear like stabbing actions to the neck and other vulnerable areas... course I never actually tried to use it : )  Is this allowed in UFC? and if not wouldn't this sort of attack be quite &quot;deadly&quot; - its delivery system is the humble jab." CreationDate="2016-03-20T22:29:17.867" UserId="6876" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12976" PostId="4807" Score="1" Text="@code_fodder Strikes of any kind to the neck are not allowed in the current day UFC, no. The original UFC 1 rules were much more relaxed: no biting and eye gouging, enforced by a $1500 fine only. There have been a number of other competitions throughout the world (that weren't the UFC) where the rules were just as relaxed. It has been observed that these techniques (eye poke, throat jab, etc.) were not effective, mostly because the people that employ them in their training were unable to deliver them (due to having no opportunity) in the ring. There have been a number of MMA matches that..." CreationDate="2016-03-21T03:55:32.477" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12977" PostId="4807" Score="1" Text="... were ended due to an accidental eye poke or a kick to the groin. These are usually in competitions where rules forbid them, so it might be argued that they developed a hole in their defense that can be exploited with these techniques. However, those that only train in traditional martial arts haven't been able to get close enough to deliver these techniques. Cross-training in kick-boxing would help. But I think you'll also need grappling skill to counter it against an MMA fighter these days. Then you have a chance at delivering your spear-hand thrust to the throat. But, if you are..." CreationDate="2016-03-21T04:02:35.950" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12978" PostId="4807" Score="2" Text="... able to deliver that spear-hand thrust, you're also able to deliver a punch to the face. Which is more effective? My money is on the punch to the face, because it requires less precision and is less risky to your fingers. In a competition where neck strikes are allowed, fighters would defend their necks more. And again, this requires you to become, essentially, an MMA fighter in order to pull it off reliably. My thoughts anyway." CreationDate="2016-03-21T04:06:23.107" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12979" PostId="4807" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand Thanks very much for the feedback : ) +1 all around" CreationDate="2016-03-21T06:13:04.067" UserId="6876" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12980" PostId="6122" Score="0" Text="Should put the first paragraph in bold lol." CreationDate="2016-03-21T10:50:31.747" UserId="6880" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12984" PostId="6209" Score="3" Text="I do not have a substantive answer to offer in terms of the belt promotion side of things, but in general, if something is bothering you, it's good to bring it up to your owner. If you're unsure as to whether you're right, just bring it up as a concern without accusations. Most people are willing to talk at that point." CreationDate="2016-03-21T12:50:25.333" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12986" PostId="6210" Score="0" Text="Thanks very well worded and explained. Students do pay for belts, so i think i will bring ot to the owner as a general question about is we can skip belts." CreationDate="2016-03-21T12:59:04.360" UserId="6880" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12992" PostId="6210" Score="3" Text="Good explanation. In your analogy though, lazy Bob would never make it to the next grade in our club. Anyone who demands anything gets nothing, as humility and respect are core principles. Our highly qualified and experienced teacher invites us to test when he thinks we are ready to pass." CreationDate="2016-03-21T20:05:59.113" UserId="6847" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12993" PostId="6080" Score="0" Text="Great answer happens all the time. I had a few belts taken when i was young :(" CreationDate="2016-03-21T20:11:32.003" UserId="6880" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12994" PostId="6209" Score="0" Text="I can understand the skipping the fee, if it was meant say the person went from 7 to 5, they only pay the grading fee for 5, not for 6 that they skipped.  I dont think many students have a problem if someone of a higher grade comes to learn their style and grades quickly or misses some. However, when you see it on people who arent, and its because they are &quot;in&quot; with someone.. It is a whole new story" CreationDate="2016-03-21T21:49:59.130" UserId="6124" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12995" PostId="6210" Score="0" Text="@user6847: tru dat.  ;)" CreationDate="2016-03-21T22:04:39.023" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12996" PostId="6217" Score="0" Text="Sounds like that's what happened to me then, did you get to know exactly what caused the pain in the 3 instances?" CreationDate="2016-03-21T23:39:13.247" UserId="3138" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="12999" PostId="6225" Score="2" Text="Perhaps the only way is to find out why people are unhappy *before* they leave, e.g. by using regular questionnaires?" CreationDate="2016-03-22T08:53:01.993" UserId="1553" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13001" PostId="6225" Score="4" Text="@DNA: Please do not answer in comments. Make an answer! Get lots of fake internet points! ^_~" CreationDate="2016-03-22T09:05:27.480" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13006" PostId="6224" Score="11" Text="You can't just wave your hands and declare that there's &quot;no sexism involved&quot; in your speech when your speech makes a direct equivalence between maleness and toughness. You can be okay with saying such a thing, but to say it's devoid of gender connotation is factually wrong." CreationDate="2016-03-22T09:39:58.630" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13007" PostId="6224" Score="4" Text="Given that it's an environment with a vast, primarily male based, history and is traditionally a male domain, if someone left because of that single phrase, then you're probably better off without them.  That said, if there is a broader sexist culture in the club then that phrase could be &quot;the straw that broke the camel's back&quot; for someone...  people are complicated :)" CreationDate="2016-03-22T09:42:15.977" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13012" PostId="6229" Score="2" Text="This has the same problem as the phone conversation: the recipient feels pressured and thus does not tell you anything negative. All you get is &quot;It is me, not you&quot; excuse." CreationDate="2016-03-22T11:22:54.800" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13013" PostId="6222" Score="1" Text="Whilst I'm inclined to agree with your point of view, you haven't answered the questions: should the OP be concerned? Is it normal? Should the OP talk to the owner/boss?" CreationDate="2016-03-22T11:28:42.027" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13015" PostId="6230" Score="0" Text="This is a really nice idea!" CreationDate="2016-03-22T11:34:19.593" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13017" PostId="6231" Score="7" Text="Both &quot;suck it up, Princess&quot; and &quot;Put your big girl panties on&quot; still have sexist connotations. Thus me not liking them in the first place." CreationDate="2016-03-22T11:50:10.270" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13022" PostId="6232" Score="0" Text="Can of worms.  Kill it with fire!  Also, you literally said &quot;opinion&quot; in your question.  Ergo, I am voting to close as primarily opinion based.  I can see you getting some mileage out of a more specific question, perhaps one having to do with center of gravity in throws male vs female." CreationDate="2016-03-22T12:11:55.870" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13023" PostId="6232" Score="0" Text="@TheWudangKid Hehe, yes, a very emotive topic - and therefore worth discussing.  Used the word opinion because there will never be a right or wrong answer for such things... unless my wife is reading this, then I'm wrong and she's right!! :P" CreationDate="2016-03-22T12:13:41.613" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13024" PostId="6232" Score="0" Text="@TheWudangKid I think there wouldn't be much of a site here if you closed all the opinion based items... martial arts, by their very nature, invite opinion based discussions and/or questions. :)" CreationDate="2016-03-22T12:16:58.980" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13025" PostId="6232" Score="3" Text="It's not clear to me how the first three paragraphs relate to the last, nor how the extremely vague title relates to the question. Are you asking if sports performance is differentiated by sex?" CreationDate="2016-03-22T12:26:13.233" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13026" PostId="6232" Score="0" Text="@TheWudangkid Think its perfectly fine he could just remove the word opinion; then read it." CreationDate="2016-03-22T12:27:45.217" UserId="6880" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13027" PostId="6232" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Will update, thanks. Have removed the word &quot;opinion&quot; and given an example of what I mean by answering my own question, will also try to reword for clarity." CreationDate="2016-03-22T12:37:28.360" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13028" PostId="6232" Score="0" Text="@Nathan Now I'm even more confused than before." CreationDate="2016-03-22T12:39:05.957" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13029" PostId="6232" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I'm trying to get at the direct impact of gender on competitive potential... can you please advise / edit?  Sorry, not trying to be confusing." CreationDate="2016-03-22T12:41:25.363" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13030" PostId="6234" Score="0" Text="I agree with all your points, but what if you're in a sport where you're not allowed to fight/compete with members of the opposite sex?" CreationDate="2016-03-22T12:44:32.863" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13032" PostId="6231" Score="0" Text="This was almost a perfect answer to the question, except that the OP specifically asked for terms that didn't have any gender-specific verbiage..." CreationDate="2016-03-22T12:46:45.373" UserId="6890" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13033" PostId="6234" Score="0" Text="Of course if a sport has guidelines to make the sport segregated there may be an avantage however I think some female's would completely disagree with me." CreationDate="2016-03-22T12:47:07.110" UserId="6880" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13034" PostId="6232" Score="6" Text="*What concrete problem are you trying to solve here?*" CreationDate="2016-03-22T12:47:18.150" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13035" PostId="6232" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion If I was born a female, would I have a different chance of success at a martial arts competition." CreationDate="2016-03-22T12:52:30.757" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13038" PostId="6234" Score="0" Text="Are there any sport-based martial arts that aren't segregated?  Think that might be a whole new question :)" CreationDate="2016-03-22T12:56:45.490" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13039" PostId="6234" Score="0" Text="What i competed state against girls all the time so yes" CreationDate="2016-03-22T12:57:45.040" UserId="6880" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13043" PostId="6237" Score="0" Text="Interesting - I wonder if anyone has done any research on the outcomes of these competitions.   Does an exhibition match count as competition?  (I'm not sure I know what an &quot;exhibition match&quot; is really - not trying to be antaganistic)" CreationDate="2016-03-22T13:06:38.260" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13044" PostId="6237" Score="0" Text="An exhibition match means it doesn't go on your record, and it's not for competition but to demonstrate. In terms of research and outcomes, you're going to have to be more precise about what you mean." CreationDate="2016-03-22T13:09:50.397" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13045" PostId="6232" Score="0" Text="Your new question is over board and has no useful answer -- it depends is the best answer." CreationDate="2016-03-22T13:12:34.990" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13046" PostId="6237" Score="0" Text="I see, thanks.  In terms of research, I mean outcomes for men vs women in whatever the particular (martial arts based) competitive environment may be: much the same as boys vs girls are compared in academic environments  (girls win!)" CreationDate="2016-03-22T13:12:54.590" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13048" PostId="6224" Score="6" Text="Remembering many women in my generation took up the martial arts precisely because they were &quot;sick up to here&quot; of the macho dominant stuff. The last thing we want is more of it right there in the dojo." CreationDate="2016-03-22T13:49:03.640" UserId="6887" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13050" PostId="6224" Score="6" Text="@Sardathrion if someone said &quot;man up&quot; to me when I was learning how to be a tough woman I would be annoyed. Maybe it's another generation...people used to think it was funny if I didn't want to dance with a guy and he just picked me up. I don't think you can imagine the fury I feel about this. But this is quite a long way off-topic." CreationDate="2016-03-22T14:00:24.903" UserId="6887" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13051" PostId="6240" Score="1" Text="&quot;These are disappearing now, but they were a very clear indication of sexism.&quot; So true and so sad :(" CreationDate="2016-03-22T14:09:41.253" UserId="6880" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13052" PostId="6240" Score="0" Text="Good point about the belts, I hadn't considered that - though females I know always wear plain black belts just like the males." CreationDate="2016-03-22T14:12:03.260" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13053" PostId="6224" Score="0" Text="@RedSonja: Thank you for clarifying. Your experience is a prime example as to why I want to use an alternative to &quot;man up&quot; and encourage other instructors to do the same." CreationDate="2016-03-22T14:13:28.323" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13054" PostId="6232" Score="3" Text="&quot;I have never come across explicit sexism / gender issues in my experiences with Judo&quot; -- this may be influenced by the fact that you're male and therefore wouldn't be on the receiving end of misogyny, or that [you don't consider sexist comments to be sexist](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/6224/non-sexist-equivalent-of-man-up-within-the-dojo#comment13003_6224)." CreationDate="2016-03-22T14:14:09.893" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13055" PostId="6232" Score="1" Text="Or modern judo has moved on... I've only been doing judo 6 years :)" CreationDate="2016-03-22T14:15:32.170" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13056" PostId="6232" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion why not outline what it depends on?  As to how useful an answer may or may not be... beauty is in the eye of the beholder." CreationDate="2016-03-22T14:37:00.863" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13057" PostId="4883" Score="0" Text="love the water reface!" CreationDate="2016-03-22T14:39:22.280" UserId="6880" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13058" PostId="6231" Score="0" Text="Which is why I added them with caveats as a 'you may still want to consider...'" CreationDate="2016-03-22T14:41:35.187" UserId="6888" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13059" PostId="6250" Score="0" Text="Comments on why the down-vote would be useful..." CreationDate="2016-03-22T15:03:37.087" UserId="6880" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13060" PostId="6250" Score="0" Text="I am voting to close this question as it is either trivial to answer as [teach and instructor are synonimes](http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english-thesaurus/teacher) or is trying to pool opinions or just sounds like a bad request for a [motivation poster](https://rodschulhauser.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/leadership-vs-boss.jpeg) . My vote category is wrong, mouse slipped." CreationDate="2016-03-22T15:08:17.243" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13061" PostId="6250" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion Does that help" CreationDate="2016-03-22T15:15:07.593" UserId="6880" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13062" PostId="6250" Score="3" Text="Given your edit, I don't see how this can be answered definitively.  It is clearly an organizational thing within your school.  It may even be a legal issue.  We simply can't give a single answer based on *all* of martial arts." CreationDate="2016-03-22T15:17:45.403" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13063" PostId="6250" Score="0" Text="@TheWudangKid I don't see how you cant give a answer considering you answered in you comment  &quot;It is clearly an organizational thing within your school.&quot; but thankyou for you input : )" CreationDate="2016-03-22T15:22:31.610" UserId="6880" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13065" PostId="6217" Score="1" Text="First time was from a rear-naked choke, but the guy kind of swung his arm at my neck like a karate chop. The second &amp; third time were from collar chokes. The biggest take away from these experiences is best explained from a Wu-tang clan quote &quot;Ya best protect your neck!&quot;. Also I think warm tea with honey helps, but I'm totally not qualified to give medical advice. The pain always went away before I considered going to a eye, ear, and throat specialist to get an exact diagnosis." CreationDate="2016-03-22T15:43:07.733" UserId="6567" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13070" PostId="6249" Score="0" Text="Thanks. Good post, but I wasn't really asking what is qi or how to develop its power. I was more curious about specifically what is qigong." CreationDate="2016-03-22T17:21:56.810" UserId="6847" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13071" PostId="6249" Score="0" Text="So you were literally looking for a definition of qigong?  Your question includes the line *&quot;but as there are entire books about chi kung, and even schools dedicated to it, I wonder if there is a lot more to it than I realise.&quot;*  I was trying to answer what more there was to it than you realized." CreationDate="2016-03-22T17:26:42.277" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13073" PostId="6225" Score="2" Text="I left 2 dojos for 2 reasons.  Lack of money, and lack of money" CreationDate="2016-03-22T18:20:17.037" UserId="6636" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13078" PostId="6228" Score="1" Text="&quot;Harden up&quot; has been used in other sports for some time. See rule 5 ( http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/)" CreationDate="2016-03-22T19:11:04.497" UserId="985" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13079" PostId="6259" Score="0" Text="Karate &amp; thank you for the answer this was what i was wondering in general terms." CreationDate="2016-03-22T19:22:36.423" UserId="6880" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13082" PostId="5995" Score="0" Text="never seen them before but they make too much sense to not exist. Are these things new, or they have been around for a while?" CreationDate="2016-03-22T20:24:42.860" UserId="5571" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13084" PostId="6250" Score="0" Text="sensei just the Japanese for teacher/instructor. It is the same meaning." CreationDate="2016-03-22T17:29:53.557" UserId="6847" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13086" PostId="6260" Score="1" Text="Could you explain why this is suitable?" CreationDate="2016-03-22T21:40:07.567" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13092" PostId="6250" Score="0" Text="I don't really think your edit adds much clarity because what you mention is specific to what happens where you train." CreationDate="2016-03-22T23:40:15.930" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13093" PostId="6261" Score="0" Text="Why are you putting meridians and joints together? Are you thinking about joints in an energetic or mechanical sense?" CreationDate="2016-03-23T01:41:17.627" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13094" PostId="6261" Score="0" Text="Mechanical. By meridians I barely remember stuff like some tui na exercises to recover from punches. So I quoted them as examples. It should be implied the fact tbat I know few to none, by the post I wrote." CreationDate="2016-03-23T02:41:01.497" UserId="6910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13095" PostId="6261" Score="0" Text="Dont take the two things strictly literal. Is not even the core of the question" CreationDate="2016-03-23T02:42:20.307" UserId="6910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13097" PostId="6262" Score="2" Text="Very true. TCM is a red herring. Many people (myself included) chased it only to find out it's basically nonsense. Many hundreds of hours wasted. It's time better spent training. People think they're going to learn TCM and gain all kinds of super powers. Ask yourself this: Has anyone come along yet, who isn't a fictional character in a kung-fu movie, that has these super powers and can demonstrate them working in a real fight? And I'm not talking about rumors, myths, legends, etc. Total fantasy. Shame on us for not figuring it out yet, as a community. People still insist it's real." CreationDate="2016-03-23T03:24:06.340" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13098" PostId="6224" Score="1" Text="Guys *(can I say that in a thread about sexism??!!)*, please take extended conversation to chat, or even **write an answer!** I'm cleaning up comments and I hate doing that because a) it's hard, and b) someone will think I'm censoring them when I'm not." CreationDate="2016-03-23T03:28:35.597" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13103" PostId="6224" Score="0" Text="Only me who sees 'man' in these contexts as mankind, or human? Like 'one small step for man, one leap for mankind' type of thing, where man is a reference for all people, mankind. Human up!" CreationDate="2016-03-23T09:31:53.647" UserId="6918" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13105" PostId="6217" Score="0" Text="Cool thanks for the extra info! One more thing: did you consider making your neck stronger with neck exercises (with or without weights added) as a protection?" CreationDate="2016-03-23T09:57:52.240" UserId="3138" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13106" PostId="5995" Score="0" Text="it seems to be a trojanfit thing they started doing in the last year. not sure if its the only one, but its the only one i've been able to find." CreationDate="2016-03-23T10:22:45.827" UserId="6745" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13112" PostId="6262" Score="0" Text="Actually I dont expect any superpower but everytime I deeply learned a common grabbing technique, I understood it better by the involved TCM precedents and history" CreationDate="2016-03-23T13:14:09.890" UserId="6910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13114" PostId="6262" Score="0" Text="You're an evil person. Today -thanks to your comment- I thought about Wu Wei in KF Panda saga and now I'd like to ask my little turtles about this topic." CreationDate="2016-03-23T15:21:46.180" UserId="6910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13115" PostId="6252" Score="4" Text="Trying to describe a phoneme of a different language that our language doesn't have is always a little dicey. I tried to approximate what it sounds like but there's not a good English equivalent.  It's somewhere between the first part of &quot;ready&quot; and &quot;ray&quot;.  Either works fine, if you ask me, especially since we pronounce Karate &quot;karatee&quot; and karaoke &quot;carry okee&quot;" CreationDate="2016-03-23T15:33:05.637" UserId="644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13116" PostId="6217" Score="1" Text="@drake035 Yeah after the pain went away I started doing a lot of yes-no's, and shoulder shrugs (not sure if that's actually the name of the exercise). I don't know of any exercises that involve weights (just increased the reps)." CreationDate="2016-03-23T16:38:58.153" UserId="6567" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13117" PostId="6262" Score="0" Text="@LuisMasuelli Hehe. Well, I think the best grapplers out there, and the styles that produce the best grapplers, don't use TCM as the basis of their stuff. And I know for a fact they would absolutely not improve if they knew it. They wouldn't. Now, that said. Understanding why a strange looking kung-fu / taiji technique is the way it is involves understanding the martial application. My experience is that people usually (99% of the time) learn some bogus explanation for something and have to employ TCM / chi theory / dim-mak to make any &quot;sense&quot; out of its purpose in the form..." CreationDate="2016-03-23T17:14:48.420" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13118" PostId="6262" Score="1" Text="... For example, a chicken / crane's beak &quot;attack&quot; to the head. This is often explained in kung-fu and taiji as a finger tip strike to the pressure point on the top of your opponent's head. Death is supposedly the result. Nonsense. Go ahead and try it to your sparring partner. It won't work. He'll say, &quot;Quit it! You're annoying me.&quot; No, that technique has a valid marital application, but it doesn't involve chi or dim-mak. To understand it, you have to look at how it's setup in the form. What comes before it? It can be an ear grab, for example. It can be a wrist chin-na followed by ..." CreationDate="2016-03-23T17:17:57.690" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13119" PostId="6262" Score="1" Text="... extending your opponent's arm out. In Taiji, most forms of Taiji will do this chicken beak &quot;attack&quot;. But the setup in Chen style Taiji (the origin of all the other forms) shows a circular motion is performed close to your body first before extending that chicken beak out to the side. Aha! There's the chin-na on the guy's wrist. The extending out is a grab to his wrist while twisting and locking his arm. The next move is a palm strike in the other direction. This can be a hit to the chin or a shoulder dislocation or an arm break. All perfectly valid, and don't involve mystical nonsense." CreationDate="2016-03-23T17:20:25.063" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13121" PostId="6231" Score="0" Text="What about Nancy? You forgot her." CreationDate="2016-03-23T20:07:00.350" UserId="6930" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13123" PostId="6271" Score="0" Text="+1 for &quot;busting out a roundhouse kick to your assailant's brainpan&quot;! Hilarious!" CreationDate="2016-03-23T21:41:50.320" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13124" PostId="6271" Score="1" Text="And yes, this is going to depend on the individual's abilities. Risk is increased, generally, with high kicks. But if you train these enough, you've probably already made all the mistakes you can possibly make, and so you have learned to do it more reliably. And more importantly, you've learned how to recover if it goes wrong. Kicks to the head are very surprising, also, and catch people off guard. The reward of nailing a high kick is large: a potential KO or damaging your opponent so much that it stops the fight instantly." CreationDate="2016-03-23T21:45:28.617" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13125" PostId="6224" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann: Is it, though? Despite the word content, when I say &quot;oh my god&quot; I am not making or implying anything to do with a deity. Language is subtler and more interesting than that. Don't get me wrong: in the case of &quot;man up&quot; I agree that the implication _is_ usually there. But to claim that an alternative declaration is &quot;factually wrong&quot; when you weren't even there just smacks of .. something. To me." CreationDate="2016-03-24T01:48:02.940" UserId="6933" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13126" PostId="6271" Score="0" Text="Just saw this and thought it was appropriate: http://i.imgur.com/OrzsG4N.gifv" CreationDate="2016-03-24T03:27:36.863" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13127" PostId="6224" Score="3" Text="@BarryTheHatchet Independent of *intended* meaning, the *words used* to communicate that meaning have their own gender signifiers and cultural connotations. I acknowledge that the OP perhaps didn't *intend* to be sexist, but to say that their interlocutor cannot interpret sexism into that phrase, or that &quot;there's no sexist undertone&quot; to a phrase that, again, **explicitly invokes maleness as a paragon of toughness** is ludicrous. I am in fact being quite subtle when I declare that to say this phrase is devoid of gender connotation is factually wrong." CreationDate="2016-03-24T06:04:34.983" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13131" PostId="6277" Score="2" Text="*Please do not answer in comments, instead write an answer and I'll give you some fake internet points. Also, do not discus things within comments as we have chat for this.* &lt;/prevention&gt;. Please see [*When should/shouldn't I comment?*](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help/privileges/comment)" CreationDate="2016-03-24T08:26:20.950" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13132" PostId="6254" Score="1" Text="Well, your &quot;Warrior Up&quot; is okay, but the others are just to long to say. Especially your favorite." CreationDate="2016-03-24T08:53:45.827" UserId="6758" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13133" PostId="6279" Score="0" Text="As a side note, some of the women in my club were against the idea for the same reasons as mine." CreationDate="2016-03-24T09:40:51.427" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13134" PostId="6279" Score="1" Text="Besides, I am more than happy to change my mind and your post goes a long way in providing evidence shaking my opinion.  *If an opinion cannot survive in the market place of idea, it is a bad opinion and should be discarded.* Thank you, it was just what I was looking for." CreationDate="2016-03-24T09:41:00.257" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13135" PostId="6271" Score="1" Text="I'd seen that gif before but I just noticed the sunglasses..." CreationDate="2016-03-24T11:33:00.650" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13138" PostId="6070" Score="0" Text="@Bankuei: Do you feel like you can offer this answer?" CreationDate="2016-03-24T12:59:52.787" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13140" PostId="6254" Score="0" Text="Too long for what context?  I can assure you, when I went through army basic training I heard all of these things on a daily basis - in the midst of training, and at an elevated volume.  Also, the one I suggested was my favorite is meant to be taken as tongue in cheek. That was more-or-less the last thing any of us wanted to hear (and we heard it more than all the others combined)." CreationDate="2016-03-24T13:26:41.430" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13142" PostId="6281" Score="1" Text="In a 'street fight' situation, I am not sure that the potential for intimidating one's opponent is as valuable as maintaining the element of surprise. In my experience it is better to leave a perspective assailant guessing about your skill level and technical expertise until the moment you reveal it to them upside their head. Besides, I think it is much more intimidating for an opponent to casually, and calmly transition to a ready fighting position than it would be for them to blast through their wushu floor routine." CreationDate="2016-03-24T14:11:15.680" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13143" PostId="6284" Score="0" Text="Roman gladiators' diet was meant to make them fat [source](http://archive.archaeology.org/0811/abstracts/gladiator.html), or rather to gain a thick layer of fat over their athletic bodies. It would protect their muscles and joints from wounds: a cut or stab first needed to puncture said thick layer of fat before doing serious damage. This is why gladiators are always depicted as [massive](http://madamepickwickartblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/gladiator1.jpg). *I would not recommend this diet to anyone.*" CreationDate="2016-03-24T14:15:22.340" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13144" PostId="6254" Score="1" Text="^^ Don't you see a difference of how much effort it is being taken between &quot;man up&quot; and &quot;Everyone must choose one of two pains: the pain of discipline or the pain of regret,&quot;. &quot;man up&quot; is a phrase which I'm able to say in a second, the second one is taking me 5 seconds; it is not useful for saying it every minute or so." CreationDate="2016-03-24T14:16:56.973" UserId="6758" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13145" PostId="6272" Score="1" Text="It's also tremendously important to learn to kick while in motion. It is a fatal flaw to stop and root every time you want to throw a kick. Practice your kicks mid-stride, and from awkward footwork (like you might have after a slip or hard parry). You can't really master a technique unless you can apply it in any number of sub-optimal situations." CreationDate="2016-03-24T14:20:24.497" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13146" PostId="6273" Score="3" Text="High kicks are just another tool in your bag of tricks.  Your job as a martial artist is to learn which tool is best for a given job. A journeyman of his craft can find applications for his tools that would never occur to a novice. A master of his craft can see entirely different solutions to his problem, and may not even need to open his tool box." CreationDate="2016-03-24T14:27:53.537" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13147" PostId="6285" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site and thank you for your answer. I slightly edited the format of your post to make it easier to read but otherwise should have left the meaning unchanged." CreationDate="2016-03-24T14:41:09.883" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13148" PostId="6284" Score="0" Text="The conclusions of the article you linked seem spurious. The dietary conclusions are based on the chemical composition of gladiator bones. There is no evidence that supports that gladiators were fat, and plenty of evidence that they were not. A thick layer of fat would be of negligible benefit in combat, and it would certainly have detrimental factors.  Surviving art almost always depicts gladiators as muscular exemplars of physical prowess (as seen in surviving paintings, prose, and poetry on the subject). Modern vegetarians are no more prone to carrying excess fat than people who eat meat." CreationDate="2016-03-24T14:46:12.123" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13149" PostId="6279" Score="0" Text="My only question is: how would you feel if your closest gym were men-only where the reason for not admitting you were that &quot;men feel safer and more comfortable amongst men&quot;. How is this not sexually discriminatory? I struggle to not see double morals in this answer." CreationDate="2016-03-24T14:54:49.333" UserId="6944" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13150" PostId="6279" Score="4" Text="@bluehallu If those men legitimately felt safer and more comfortable, then I would be swayed. But that doesn't seem to be the case. Just blindly flipping the genders ignores facts like physiology and culture—women tend to be smaller and have less sports experience. If 90% of martial arts schools were women-only then my opinion would swing back the other way. But they're not." CreationDate="2016-03-24T15:06:08.363" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13151" PostId="6279" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion Last sentence was a typo, thanks. As for women in your club, different women feel differently. Both a person's personality the physical circumstances, and the school culture play a part. In hard-sparring schools, I expect the physical circumstances tend to play a bigger role in many women's opinion on the subject: if most of class is compliant drilling or sparring is light-contact, size differentials matter less for this issue than if every class involves 30 minutes of full-contact randori." CreationDate="2016-03-24T15:10:54.277" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13153" PostId="6070" Score="0" Text="Yeah, I just need to get some friends together to record some video.  Might take awhile - my work schedule and theirs aren't exactly matched up well." CreationDate="2016-03-24T15:45:32.873" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13154" PostId="6279" Score="0" Text="I'd agree that physique matters here, but it's not &quot;light-only clubs&quot; we're talking about here. It's a subgroup of the population stating they feel threatened by another group. It's, in my eyes, no different than a &quot;no-muslims&quot; club where the members feel threatened by muslims because just like your &quot;dicks&quot; paragraph, some muslims are indeed dangerous. I'm a man and I've never mistreated a woman. Banning me from a place on the basis of other men behaviour is plain discrimination no matter how you look at it." CreationDate="2016-03-24T15:50:57.303" UserId="6944" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13155" PostId="6279" Score="2" Text="@bluehallu That's a weaksauce analogy. The foundation of your argument is that women shouldn't feel threatened by men, or that such a feeling is invalid. When you get groped or called a &quot;slut&quot; in class then go ahead and ask your instructor for a you-only class." CreationDate="2016-03-24T16:09:16.733" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13157" PostId="6268" Score="0" Text="Please note that this is very different in meaning from the original &quot;Man up&quot; request. Your answer includes physical instructions, not a general encouragement." CreationDate="2016-03-24T16:36:35.033" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13158" PostId="6271" Score="0" Text="Yup. It's clearly edited. I have seen similar things happen that I know are real, though. Just not with the glasses. :)" CreationDate="2016-03-24T17:10:01.657" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13159" PostId="6281" Score="1" Text="@Zen_Hydra&#xA;I suppose I could see it going either way. My answer was partially inspired by reading a Capoeira *mestre*'s account of how he'd defused one impending fight through a backflip. It served no combat purpose, but it made the young men swaggering toward him take a step back. You occasionally get anecdotes of something similar with muggers getting scared when they see their target has a faded black belt around their waist." CreationDate="2016-03-24T17:12:45.970" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13160" PostId="6286" Score="0" Text="TCM includes things that are becoming scientifically validated, including meditation and deep breathing. That is why you have to study it to decide what is worthwhile and what is quackery (I certainly do not deny there is quackery). [Here is recent NPR coverage of woo woo treatment being more effective than painkillers for back pain](http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/03/22/471305344/for-chronic-low-back-pain-mindfulness-beats-painkillers)." CreationDate="2016-03-24T17:42:01.880" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13163" PostId="6286" Score="0" Text="This answer is pointless regarding the stuff I asked for, i.e., in martial applications. There's no place for fake remedies (if any) or even true remedies in a battle, but my question was regarding whether theoretical concepts like meridians and so were useful on a battle to help to better understand movements. Perhaps (and I keep it for sure) I don't know many concepts well, but this answer is blatantly out of scope (which is, again, battles)." CreationDate="2016-03-24T17:57:19.970" UserId="6910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13164" PostId="6286" Score="3" Text="TCM is rooted in magical traditions and fraudulent practices. Whether it is shilling tiger penises as a cure for erectile dysfunction, prescribing dit da jow for training injuries (despite having no genuine medical value), or promoting chi development for general health (even though chi and meridians are unsubstantiated bunk). TCM is not in any way scientifically supported. Any plants used in TCM which may have medicinal value are scientifically research by pharmaceutical companies and the active agents are isolated an refined. That isn't how TCM works. TCM is unregulated and inconsistent." CreationDate="2016-03-24T18:23:54.890" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13165" PostId="6286" Score="1" Text="Here are some supporting links to the dangers and fraudulent nature of TCM:  [link](https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/whats-in-your-traditional-chinese-medicine/)    The NPR coverage you linked was bad journalism:  [link](http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/tcm-on-npr/)    Here is another article about TCM acupuncture and their ridiculous nature as argumentum ad antiquitatem:  [link](https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-reality-of-ancient-wisdom-acupuncture-and-tcm-werent-so-great/)" CreationDate="2016-03-24T18:30:20.410" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13166" PostId="6286" Score="1" Text="Luis Masuelli:  You mentioned TCM practices in your original question, and my response addressed the nature of TCM. Chi and meridians are a part of the fraud that is TCM. Our bodies aren't filled with magical lines of power. Our breathing cannot impart special healing, resistance, or combinative properties. Traditional Chinese Medicine uses a body model which is completely detached from actual human anatomy.  Pretending that any of the magical elements is real is at best indulging in flights of fancy, and at worst it could get you killed." CreationDate="2016-03-24T18:37:47.883" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13167" PostId="6202" Score="2" Text="Seems silly to put that on hold to me, it's about a specific attack and how best to optimise it... At worst, edit it slightly. Just disabling it is very unhelpful and not encouraging to someone who is clearly new. Smh" CreationDate="2016-03-24T19:41:39.293" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13168" PostId="6279" Score="2" Text="I agree with this - the simple fact is that some women are more comfortable training without men around. If your club dislikes that you're welcome not to run female-only classes, but equally they're welcome not to show up to your mixed classes." CreationDate="2016-03-24T21:34:37.673" UserId="6888" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13169" PostId="6279" Score="1" Text="@DaveLiepmann No, I'm not saying their feeling is invalid as there is no such thing as invalid feelings. I acknowledge them but the best course of action is to show them that such fears for men in general are unfounded rather than validating it by telling them they don't allow men for their protection." CreationDate="2016-03-24T21:40:19.930" UserId="6944" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13170" PostId="6279" Score="1" Text="@bluehallu In the context of martial arts, that's precisely what women-only classes do: new students come to the women-only classes...then transition at least partially to the general-population classes. The women-only classes remain as a feeder program and as a way to get in training that lessens injury risk. This is all addressed in my answer, above." CreationDate="2016-03-24T21:49:59.590" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13171" PostId="6286" Score="0" Text="This is veering to be off topic! **If you want to chat, use [chat](http://chat.stackexchange.com/)&quot;**" CreationDate="2016-03-25T07:31:38.100" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13172" PostId="6252" Score="0" Text="@TonyD Since I agree with both of you, I edited the question to have a link to some audio. Hopefully that will help." CreationDate="2016-03-25T08:14:33.630" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13173" PostId="6286" Score="0" Text="@mattm: [The linked study](http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=2504811) is a [A+B vs B](http://edzardernst.com/2012/11/how-to-fool-people-with-clinical-trials/). Those type of trials are typical of quakes as they *cannot produce negative results thus proving whatever the quakes want to prove*.  [Ditto about Mindfulness-based stress reduction](http://edzardernst.com/2016/03/mind-over-body-or-poor-science-over-truth/)." CreationDate="2016-03-25T10:12:26.370" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13174" PostId="6286" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion If you have a problem with the study methodology, I suggest you take it up with the study authors to get it retracted." CreationDate="2016-03-25T12:04:42.327" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13176" PostId="6063" Score="0" Text="My son has a competition coming up in two weeks, I will take photos and ask about assembling the &quot;ad hoc tatami&quot;. Sorry about the delay, I've totally forgotten about this thing - somebody woke me up by voting this answer up. :D" CreationDate="2016-03-25T20:27:12.943" UserId="6488" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13180" PostId="6292" Score="0" Text="I'm definitely interested in this." CreationDate="2016-03-26T18:10:42.317" UserId="6664" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13181" PostId="6273" Score="1" Text="Sorry - have to disagree with the thrust of this answer... IMHO, it shows a lack of understanding of the way a good kicker sets up and utilises high kicks.  The variability of street fights is more reason to want to be able to kick high when the opportunity's there, not less.  A committed reverse punch makes you more vulnerable than a jab too, but that's no reason to discount it.  There's nothing in the question asking about karate in particular, so while the Okinawan masters are relevant expertise, there are lots of counter examples ignores, like historical use in Indochinese kickboxing." CreationDate="2016-03-27T08:24:09.797" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13182" PostId="6273" Score="0" Text="@TonyD You can disagree if you want, no problems :) I did mention that low kicks were faster/more stable/&quot;safer&quot;, I didn't say you shouldn't do high kicks, especially if a good opportunity arises. There is no lack of understanding, I just don't head hunt with kicks when I could be doing something else. As Zen_Hydra said, they're just another tool - and they shouldn't be prioritised to the exclusion of other techniques." CreationDate="2016-03-27T10:58:52.813" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13183" PostId="6273" Score="0" Text="As for &quot;setting up for a high kick&quot; - street fights are fast and disorganized, the chances of setting up for head kicks are slim, although you should take that chance if you've got it. Street fights should be ended as fast as possible, the only set up you do is for the very next technique. Unless you were talking about organized/ring fights, which is not what the question was about." CreationDate="2016-03-27T11:00:53.050" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13184" PostId="6281" Score="0" Text="I'm honestly a bit surprised this got accepted as the answer, but thank you." CreationDate="2016-03-27T15:48:11.410" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13185" PostId="6293" Score="0" Text="&quot;more densely packed&quot; like in a movie at 60 FPS?" CreationDate="2016-03-27T23:55:18.437" UserId="1932" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13186" PostId="6293" Score="0" Text="@shackra You might be able to run with that analogy, but the brain's approach to storing memories is sufficiently different from that of a film strip that you are likely to run into issues with that analogy falling short at some point while analyzing such perceptive effects." CreationDate="2016-03-28T04:10:37.540" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13187" PostId="6281" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan, Could you please share the source of the Capoeira mestre's account that you alluded to? This sure sounds interesting to read." CreationDate="2016-03-29T05:25:09.253" UserId="1094" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13188" PostId="6297" Score="1" Text="Thank you for your detailed answer. That was really helpful." CreationDate="2016-03-29T11:20:29.270" UserId="6654" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13189" PostId="6281" Score="0" Text="@VaibhavGarg: It was *Unknown Capoeira: Secret Techniques of the Original Brazilian Martial Art* by Mestre Ricardo Cachorro. Despite the somewhat hokey name, it's basically a listing of Capoeira movements, how to train for them, recommendations for when to use them in the *roda* or outside of it, and what to do in response to them." CreationDate="2016-03-29T13:00:05.613" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13193" PostId="6202" Score="1" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is asking in a thinly veiled way *how best to kill someone*. ☹" CreationDate="2016-03-30T09:59:38.427" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13194" PostId="6202" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion: Only in that asking the best way to incapacitate an opponent with any technique would. One could say the same thing about asking the best way to score a knockout punch in boxing." CreationDate="2016-03-30T10:15:11.877" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13195" PostId="6202" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion As I understood it, a liver shot alone wouldn't do any lasting damage. This question was posted for self defense purposes, I was wondering about attacks that could stop an attacker from attacking and how to best use them, and I asked about the liver because I was the most curious about it. I don't see how this is asking in any way how to kill or hurt someone." CreationDate="2016-03-30T10:32:27.250" UserId="6569" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13196" PostId="6202" Score="0" Text="Your question ask how to deal the maximum damage to a vital organ. The maximum damage is the total destruction of said organ. Any injury involving firearms (maximum damage, right?), or mêlée weapons, or possibly repeated punches/kicks to a liver might cause lasting or catastrophic damage including death. How is this not asking how to kill or hurt somebody? Finally, your comment about self defences shows a lack of understanding of self defence law. *Please go a see a lawyer before you get yourself in trouble with the law.*" CreationDate="2016-03-30T11:11:41.820" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13197" PostId="6299" Score="0" Text="Thank you for your answer. I was asking about the liver because I know the least about that strike. And as for the internal bleeding, I thought that just by striking it with sufficient force you could cause a person to pass out with no lasting damage. Am I wrong?" CreationDate="2016-03-30T15:45:05.203" UserId="6569" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13198" PostId="6299" Score="0" Text="Kind of, the passing out would be part of going into shock. But to create that level of damage would mean breaking a number of ribs. If you want detail on how applied force to organs can cause damage, look at the theory behind kidney strikes." CreationDate="2016-03-30T15:47:01.793" UserId="6894" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13199" PostId="6202" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion you misunderstood what I meant, I was asking about how to best stop someone with a liver punch with your body, without doing lasting damage. I didn't mean anything like stabbing or shooting, repeated strikes, etc. And as for trouble with the law, I was referring to a specific situation that I have done research on the laws of. I'm sorry if I was unclear, I will edit the question to fix it." CreationDate="2016-03-30T15:48:57.190" UserId="6569" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13200" PostId="6299" Score="0" Text="@BillRoberson: If you strike someone with enough force to make them pass out, then chances are that you have caused lasting damage." CreationDate="2016-03-30T15:49:20.367" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13201" PostId="6202" Score="1" Text="@Sard asking about a specific technique and the optimal ways to deliver it are one of the primary purposes of the site - many techniques can kill if used improperly. **Bill:** thanks for the edit, it better defines exactly what you're asking." CreationDate="2016-03-30T23:01:24.330" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13202" PostId="6202" Score="0" Text="@slugster: The edit makes it a better question but not one that I would consider good enough not to down vote and close. Asking for *maximum damage* and *no lasting damage* is like eating and having your cake: **you cannot have both!**" CreationDate="2016-03-31T07:21:12.293" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13203" PostId="5735" Score="0" Text="This is a very Japanese view of the martial arts. Basically, one has to learn three different budo arts to be able to function competently at unknown range. You can also see this with the development of Shotokan karate as well, the inherent grappling methods were discarded and only kicking and punching allowed to remain. The unspoken implication (which never quite made it to the west) being that practitioners should also practice judo/ju-jutsu as all of the Tokyo practitioners did. Known in Okinawan karate circles as &quot;The Tokyo Problem&quot;." CreationDate="2016-03-31T10:34:29.300" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13204" PostId="5735" Score="3" Text="@css1971 The question is about two Japanese martial arts so a very Japanese view of the martial arts is right on point." CreationDate="2016-03-31T10:54:19.570" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13205" PostId="5735" Score="0" Text="I agree. It's certainly pertinent and helps explain the current structures. Depending on your goals, it's just not necessarily a very fruitful or pragmatic one." CreationDate="2016-03-31T14:46:37.830" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13206" PostId="1972" Score="0" Text="Kata have *specific rules for encoding and decoding them*. The common practice of &quot;bunkai&quot; as practised without understanding these rules is a relatively futile search for meaning in a large search space, and which *very much* depends on the fighting experience of the person searching... The result is a lot of time wasted producing garbage oyo and this shows in the quality of Karate, TKD/TSD, Kung-Fu practitioners we see today." CreationDate="2016-03-31T16:04:23.597" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13207" PostId="5583" Score="0" Text="This flies in the face of sensibility, practicality, and human anatomy.  You aren't going to better weaponize your hands by breaking your bones. The notion that broken bones heal back stronger is a myth. I foolishly spent years trying to condition my hands for combat (under guided supervision), and I now have all sorts of nerve, joint, and other tissue damage. I may be able to hit someone really hard without pain, but I can't always tell when my hands are closed (I drop stuff a lot). The anatomy of the hand does not allow for an effective spear-hand strike to anything except soft tissue." CreationDate="2016-03-31T16:10:31.263" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13208" PostId="528" Score="1" Text="A spear-hand strike to the solar-plexus is always going to be less effective than a closed-hand strike or a kick.  It is simply a matter of bio-mechanics and physics. When trying to deliver optimal amounts of force - a spear-hand will buckle at the joints, while a close-fist maintains its compact striking surface. No amount of conditioning will change this." CreationDate="2016-03-31T16:18:36.740" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13209" PostId="528" Score="0" Text="and if you miss the quarter sized solar plexus and hit their breast plate? sore/broken fingers." CreationDate="2016-03-31T20:32:19.260" UserId="55" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13210" PostId="5772" Score="1" Text="It is more about the shape of the weapon wood have fat edge while steel have thin one which unluckely can get through gaps in lacrosse gloves. So yep lacrosse is a terrible option everybody (that I know) who tried them complained about how easily hits get through protections. Anyway I already got my red dragons." CreationDate="2016-04-01T06:54:59.960" UserId="6344" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13211" PostId="6304" Score="0" Text="This is really not my experience with &quot;waffle&quot; grids.  We do have those. The mats still slide. ☹" CreationDate="2016-04-01T08:19:57.977" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13212" PostId="6297" Score="2" Text="&quot;it is also important where we look at during practice&quot;. This is true in Chinese forms and Karate kata. You are usually looking at the opponent. So head position indicates where he is." CreationDate="2016-04-01T13:05:27.797" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13213" PostId="6297" Score="0" Text="@css1971 Quite true! I'll add that to my answer. Thanks for pointing that out. It's actually a very important detail." CreationDate="2016-04-01T17:25:18.287" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13218" PostId="6312" Score="1" Text="Welcome to the site. I edited your question slightly to make it read better. I suggest you take the [tour](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour) to see how we do things. Also, what martial art are you doing?" CreationDate="2016-04-05T06:52:09.867" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13222" PostId="5211" Score="0" Text="Unfortunately as far as I can see, a very large percentage of the teachers of particularly chinese derived systems are basically incompetent. They don't understand their forms, have interpreted them as strikes or indeed &quot;chi enhanced pushes&quot;, have absolutely no relevant experience of violence, or even of contact sports and never train against realistically resisting opponents. The result is a disaster martially." CreationDate="2016-04-05T12:57:32.133" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13226" PostId="6314" Score="0" Text="edited, sorry for the unclear question, thanks for reminding. I mean like still being able to defend myself in worst case, when I stopped training I wasn't even able to do some basics. I wonder if 1 class each week will still help you not lose your process. Usually when you stop for a time, most people need to learn some stuff again, you know what I mean?" CreationDate="2016-04-05T14:17:17.350" UserId="6686" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13228" PostId="6317" Score="0" Text="I'm an IT-specialist, just in apprenticeship. It requires a lot more than just doing a &quot;normal&quot; job. Gotta do many things after work too. Like school lessons, projects which I am only allowed to do at home and a lot of homework. So basically I don't even have time, I just take it. So I was wondering if this is even still worth it..." CreationDate="2016-04-06T10:14:33.543" UserId="6686" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13231" PostId="6314" Score="1" Text="The time required to &quot;remain proficient&quot; is heavily dependent on your rank and knowledge - a white belt will have to spend far less time remaining proficient than a black belt." CreationDate="2016-04-06T12:17:22.177" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13238" PostId="6321" Score="1" Text="+1 for &quot;this is probably a problem with missing the off-balancing portion&quot;, I was going to write an answer to that effect until I read that part of your answer." CreationDate="2016-04-06T18:49:39.740" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13241" PostId="5736" Score="0" Text="@StevenGubkin: You might have luck here.  Not all that is in Aikido is unique to Aikido.  I don't know about wrist locks per se, and I don't know about street fights and real self-defense videos, I am not of the crowd which kow-tows to the omnipotence of YouTube, nor do I spend time pouring through videos looking for real-live applications of stuff I learn in TMA.&#xA;&#xA;Nevertheless, you will see applications being taught in (real) TMA, whose techniques exist in Aikido and elsewhere, and being applied to strikes and resistance, as you asked:&#xA;&#xA;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kv8HkGWo2Q" CreationDate="2016-04-06T21:11:53.103" UserDisplayName="user6519" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13242" PostId="5736" Score="1" Text="@Wigwam This appears to be a video highlighting where movements in Kata find expression in other martial arts.  All of the nonkata clips seems very &quot;live&quot;, and effective.  There is no indication that those practicing the Kata are able to use these movements in the ways illustrated.  Non of the movements appear to be typical of Aikido (affecting the Center through the limbs)." CreationDate="2016-04-06T21:17:53.727" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13243" PostId="6319" Score="0" Text="It's called Ogoshi in judo too (judo is essentially a subset of JJ)" CreationDate="2016-04-06T22:31:23.770" UserId="539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13267" PostId="6326" Score="0" Text="I wonder if Baratoplata is an extended version of Omoplata or a substitute submission in case of failing to complete Omoplata." CreationDate="2016-04-07T02:24:38.297" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13268" PostId="6327" Score="0" Text="this theory is very interesting, if I rethink my 2 years experience there were actually moments where this is true. btw. do you maybe know, if allergy or something like asthma can harm my condition?&#xA;like pollen allergy in spring.&#xA;&#xA;I recognized I got pain in the chest and heavy breathing, and I usually don't have that even in the lessons...wonder if this could be a reason why I feel like dying every lesson" CreationDate="2016-04-07T06:39:30.053" UserId="6686" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13273" PostId="6321" Score="0" Text="Thanks, I think you are probably right with the off-balance, As the larger uke didnt have his Gi on (not dried properly or so), so i didn't pull him across my center of gravity as much(not wanting to rip his tee shirt). i will try again." CreationDate="2016-04-07T12:31:06.897" UserId="5993" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13275" PostId="6330" Score="0" Text="No research whatsoever: [1](http://www.urbankravmaga.org/), [2](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_Krav_Maga)." CreationDate="2016-04-07T13:56:18.360" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13276" PostId="6330" Score="0" Text="I can't see the difference, Krav Maga also includes many techniques from other arts" CreationDate="2016-04-07T14:16:34.473" UserId="6686" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13279" PostId="6327" Score="1" Text="Allergies and asthma, flus, colds, over-training, under-training, stress in your life, etc. all have an effect on your athletic performance and your mental functioning (emotional state, motivation, focus, etc.). No doubt about it. It's something everyone goes through on occasion. Asthma in particular can just drain all of your energy. And time off from working out will cause a reduction in performance both physical and mental. It will take some time to recover. If it's a chronic condition, then that's something you just have to take into account when you program your training..." CreationDate="2016-04-07T17:27:40.407" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13280" PostId="6327" Score="0" Text="... For asthma, I'd look into doing all you can to avoid the triggers and get properly medicated (see an asthma specialist doctor (MD)). Also, I have a friend who swears that her asthma is triggered in part because of her lactose intolerance and possible other food allergies. You say you have other allergies. Maybe you should see an allergy specialist first. They might be able to tell you if you're allergic to certain foods or something in your environment (cat dander, etc.). Also, invest in an air cleaner device with HEPA filter. Put one in every room of your house, especially where..." CreationDate="2016-04-07T17:31:33.190" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13281" PostId="6327" Score="0" Text="... you sleep or spend the most time in. Also, if you work in an office, put one there. It's going to help you immensely during allergy season." CreationDate="2016-04-07T17:32:16.610" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13282" PostId="5386" Score="0" Text="I'm want to find something I can wear at Krav, but we have very heavy contact so I wouldn't trust anything too exposed. Anything on the wrist would be torn off, chest monitors too I think would go (shirts get torn frequently so surely a chest strap would end up getting ripped off).  Ideally I could wear something on my groin under my box - that's probably the best protected place. How did you go at krav with sparring / scenarios? Was there much impact on the monitors?" CreationDate="2016-04-08T03:26:01.100" UserId="6995" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13283" PostId="6327" Score="0" Text="my asthma is not chronic, it's actually just over certain things like now the allergy in the spring you easily get where I live.&#xA;But it makes me even look like I am just too weak. Usually if I practice I can go over my limits(this is why I like any kind of fighting the adrenaline gives it to me). but when I have asthma it literally sucks my energy level out like nothing. and I can just push to my limits. and my limits are at the moment very small. &#xA;I said to myself now, I try to practice 2 a week, if I can't go I may do a little bit home training, do you think it's okay to exercise for myself?" CreationDate="2016-04-08T07:59:44.210" UserId="6686" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13284" PostId="6316" Score="0" Text="just a question, does boxing include parring or is it just blocking and doging?I mean if I train without gloves, blocking is not pretty effective and I usually like to do it either without gloves or with small gloves like these from MMA" CreationDate="2016-04-08T08:01:46.157" UserId="6686" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13285" PostId="6314" Score="0" Text="Do you think it's also okay, if I do a little bit exercise at home for myself? Like using a sparring partner, I mean of course I am just an amateur, but the 2 years experience at least let me never forget the basics which I can always practice myself right?" CreationDate="2016-04-08T08:03:15.247" UserId="6686" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13286" PostId="6316" Score="0" Text="Boxing does incorporate parries. They are a combination of pushing an incoming punch out of line, while moving ones body into position for a follow-up attack. This is usually done with the outside hand parrying, the inside hand held up to guard from an outside punch (e.g. left hook), while you are also stepping forward and inside to position yourself for a follow up with a counter attack to their unprotected flank. There are many other variations taught, and a good couch will emphasize parrying over blocking in most situations. Also, most gyms aren't going to let you spar with grappling gloves" CreationDate="2016-04-08T14:32:28.750" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13287" PostId="6327" Score="0" Text="@DeathToxic Well, I think if I were you I would go easy during workouts, really light. Because basically that's all you can do when you have asthma. Aside from that, I'd look into medications and other potential treatments for asthma. Some people find their asthma vastly improves with modifications to diet (ditching meat and dairy and eating more beans, fresh fruit, plant-based food, for example), dealing with allergens in their food and environment like I said before, drinking more water, and getting more sleep..." CreationDate="2016-04-08T17:12:10.037" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13288" PostId="6327" Score="0" Text="... It's fine practicing at home and skipping the workout at the gym, if that's something you can do, during days that are really bad for your asthma. I'd even go so far as to say take the day off. Rest. Get more sleep. Maybe watch video instruction or read up on technique. You can also use the time to visualize what you need to work on. Research shows that visualizing what you need to do is more beneficial than not doing anything. Still not as good as actual practice, but pretty useful nonetheless." CreationDate="2016-04-08T17:16:14.513" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13289" PostId="6333" Score="5" Text="This is a tough question because it depends upon wording of laws - many don't explicitly prohibit knives or bladed weapons, but they do prohibit *offensive* weapons. For example a [kubotan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubotan) can be considered offensive, depending on your intention and the situation and the mood of the law enforcement officer." CreationDate="2016-04-09T01:07:52.610" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13291" PostId="6335" Score="0" Text="There's a good illustration of my point above: in this country nunchaku and shuriken are not forbidden, I can walk down the road openly carrying them. But I have a good reason or purpose - a gang member or youth won't get away with the same behavior." CreationDate="2016-04-09T03:37:27.690" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13292" PostId="6335" Score="0" Text="@slugster - Some of the prohibited weapons are very ridiculous. I mean... who carries a manrikigusari or a morningstar? But yeah... in Canada, owning and using weapons are very different. You can own pretty much anything, but if you have any intention of using it offensively or defensively, it's illegal. Truth be told, when coming to and from the dojo, I wouldn't hesitate to use my weapons if I got mugged or something. But I'm not carrying those weapons for that purpose specifically. Rather, I'm using them to legally practice martial arts, and I happened to have them on me at that time." CreationDate="2016-04-09T03:41:53.323" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13293" PostId="5736" Score="0" Text="@StevenGubkin: I don't know about finding expression in other arts - I have little experience outside my own.  I also don't know that the individuals doing the kata can do the techniques in application, although some appear do be able to.  But the techniques in kata are the same techniques used in application.  That's why the kata was built: to build a library of techniques that have proved to work.  They are not meant to be used as-is in a kata, although some seem to have this notion that they are." CreationDate="2016-04-09T11:48:19.630" UserDisplayName="user6519" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13295" PostId="6348" Score="1" Text="Hi @Clementino, welcome to the site. Please note that this is a Q&amp;A site, not a general discussion. Please post actual answers and refrain from leaving opinion and/or general chit-chat on each question you read. Make sure you take [the tour](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour) and understand it before answering. Thanks!" CreationDate="2016-04-11T02:12:40.043" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13296" PostId="6063" Score="1" Text="Added photos and added specific info, I hope it helps. I was fortunate enough to be there in time so I had a chance to take photos and get some info from the organizers. Steel tubing can also be replaced with L-profile steel. BTW: My son got bronze medal." CreationDate="2016-04-11T06:25:12.033" UserId="6488" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13299" PostId="6340" Score="0" Text="The best answers here are by Slugster and Dave Liepmann. The answer is mostly to increase the amount of resistance / non-compliance of your opponent. The standard &quot;canned&quot; responses taught in self-defense classes are nearly useless. The moment you try it in real life, you'll realize you haven't prepared for it at all. Deep down, you know it won't work. That includes black belts in karate or TKD, etc. They haven't trained for a situation where the guy grabs you, tackles you to the ground and beats on you relentlessly until you've actually overcome him." CreationDate="2016-04-11T09:44:30.303" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13300" PostId="6333" Score="1" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is looking for legal advice on carrying offensive weapons." CreationDate="2016-04-11T10:14:55.720" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13301" PostId="6339" Score="0" Text="Do you have any references to support your statement about Bruce Lee?" CreationDate="2016-04-11T10:22:07.600" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13302" PostId="6349" Score="0" Text="Your enthusiasm is great, but could you please (at least) capitalise properly? Thank you!" CreationDate="2016-04-11T10:54:30.877" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13303" PostId="6333" Score="0" Text="@MikeP, I didn't mean to ask for legal advice. I actually wanted to know other effective weapons which do not have the stigma often associated with knives. Legal advice from some of the answers were pretty insightful though." CreationDate="2016-04-11T12:29:50.767" UserId="4367" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13304" PostId="6333" Score="0" Text="@JasonStack, asking for advice on weapons that can be carried, (to me) implies an intention to harm which would be, at best, inappropriate and, in my opinion, illegal. So, you may not have meant to ask for legal advice, but, in essence, you are." CreationDate="2016-04-11T13:42:09.763" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13305" PostId="6336" Score="0" Text="In the UK, as I understand it, any object used with the intention of causing harm is an offensive weapon. So, buying a heavy torch so you can use it as a club would make the torch an offensive weapon." CreationDate="2016-04-11T13:47:51.623" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13306" PostId="6335" Score="0" Text="That list is pretty crazy.  You can't sport a morning star, but a flanged mace is fine. Canada also seems to have an infestation of ninjas." CreationDate="2016-04-11T14:54:54.807" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13308" PostId="6341" Score="1" Text="I agree 100% with the tournament angle. Not only does the excitement of the moment get you used to an adrenaline dump, but it also makes you aware of the crash afterwards (and sometimes having to fight/compete through it)." CreationDate="2016-04-11T15:29:49.437" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13310" PostId="6342" Score="0" Text="Other than surviving actual unexpected physical altercations, I good variety of training and sparring against a broad range of physical types and skill levels is one's best option for preparing for real-life self-defense." CreationDate="2016-04-11T15:32:46.013" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13313" PostId="6062" Score="0" Text="Our organization uses Zebra mats at both Nationals tournaments as well as Worlds. They don't have borders, and I can tell you that within a few rounds of sparring or workshops gaps develop, even with their recommended layouts." CreationDate="2016-04-11T15:41:34.130" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13314" PostId="6333" Score="0" Text="Placing this on hold because it is too broad (no region specified and because no particular genre of weapon was specified or criteria beyond &quot;replacement for a knife&quot; and &quot;cold&quot;)." CreationDate="2016-04-11T21:26:34.513" UserId="11" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13315" PostId="6360" Score="2" Text="Yes, and because the referee's judgment is completely subjective, it means some referees allow more ground time than others. It also means that some competitors will simply go into a turtle position or completely on their belly to stall for time, allowing themselves to be put back on their feet. This makes judoka very aggressive about how quickly they try to do things. Most judoka don't even wait for their opponent to hit the ground before they start doing a juji-gatame or something. Haha. Very different ideas compared with BJJ." CreationDate="2016-04-11T21:31:31.700" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13316" PostId="6360" Score="0" Text="I'm not a judo guy. But I used training to complement my BJJ. I have the idea in judo the fighter have to get a submission position in 4s in juji-gatame. Otherwise the ref will back the stand fight. In a turtle position, to me, the judoka just wait a little to came back on top. Because 4s isn't enough to get a choke. The most of the Judokas I meet they aren't aggressive." CreationDate="2016-04-11T22:39:46.867" UserId="5818" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13317" PostId="6339" Score="0" Text="Yeah, pretty much any of his biographies make mention of the fact that his brother was an accomplished sport fencer and Bruce was influenced by it. Tao of Jeet Kune Do also plagiarizes a number of historical manuals (some related to fencing and some to pugilism.) His sections on timing, for example, use terminology that is familiar to fencers. Also, Dan Inosanto told me so." CreationDate="2016-04-12T00:28:29.220" UserId="7005" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13318" PostId="6339" Score="0" Text="http://academyoffencingmasters.com/blog/bruce-lee-the-worlds-most-famous-fencer/" CreationDate="2016-04-12T00:31:34.740" UserId="7005" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13319" PostId="6033" Score="0" Text="What do you mean, a stone chair? Or do you mean a rock that they can throw?  Throwing a rock is quite different from hitting someone with a chair, so the responses would need to be different.  And why is this person allowed to just walk around with a rock or a chair looking to hit someone?" CreationDate="2016-04-12T00:37:55.720" UserId="6481" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13320" PostId="6070" Score="0" Text="From a Krav Maga perspective one would probably start with one, maybe multiple knees too the groin with the leg that is closer to him. Alternatively, breaking the front foot with a stamp might be a good idea. If that doesn't work I'd probably lean into him and use the front leg for a pushing judo through, maybe a harai goshi instead if he leans back. I have to admit this is quite a tricky one." CreationDate="2016-04-12T00:48:48.893" UserId="7015" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13321" PostId="6359" Score="0" Text="For context, you should also read: http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/2338/5961" CreationDate="2016-04-12T11:49:42.000" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13323" PostId="6360" Score="3" Text="@AFetter: As it depends on the referee, there is no rule of thumb like &quot;4 seconds&quot;. There are very good referees that look into what there happens. It can take half a minute of subsequent progress to develop a technique in ne-waza. Some know them and see the steps, some just count down as soon as it goes into ground fighting and stop it after X seconds. But competitors **are** aggressive because they do not know how fast they have to show progress/ippon." CreationDate="2016-04-12T15:52:36.737" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13325" PostId="6369" Score="0" Text="The information at http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/104/whats-the-difference-between-internal-and-external-martial-arts/315#315 may be a bit helpful to you. I am not a Systema practitioner, but my impression is that their technique has less to do with an idea of &quot;qi&quot; or &quot;inner power&quot; and more a matter of moving in a steady and relaxed manner to get maximum efficiency," CreationDate="2016-04-12T18:13:04.657" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13326" PostId="6370" Score="0" Text="Hi Steve, I know we've discussed this before so I don't want to take up too much of your time. However, on this topic we'll have to agree to disagree. I acknowledge that most of that stuff is bogus but, with utmost respect, I am unable to agree with your assessment of Chinese internal arts and your views on 'internal mechanics'. If you are interested in further discussing philosophy and practice of systema &quot;internal technique&quot;, I'd love to hear about it. I don't want to waste your time arguing about internal mechanics, however. Best regards, sirdank." CreationDate="2016-04-12T18:43:02.913" UserId="4479" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13327" PostId="6369" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan Thanks for that link, Sean. I don't expect anybody to read the downvoted answers which lurk at the bottom of that type of post but, if you were to, you'd see I've actually supplied my own answer to that question. Unfortunately, I am unable to agree with the consensus opinion of internal martial arts here. Most of my second paragraph is intended to avoid &quot;stirring the pot&quot; too much but I am not a very good communicator so I apologize if I have done a poor job." CreationDate="2016-04-12T18:45:41.977" UserId="4479" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13328" PostId="6360" Score="1" Text="@PhilipKlöcking When attacking on the mat in judo, I agree you have to be aggressive. But there are many players that adopt defensive positions like the turtle that make no sense in a self-defense context; they depend on the referee to stop the match and stand the competitors back up. It's this behavior that AFetter is noting." CreationDate="2016-04-12T19:50:33.043" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13329" PostId="6369" Score="3" Text="It might interest you to consider that literally everything that exists is physical. That's the criteria for physical phenomena: that it occurs. To ask &quot;how can I generate force through other than physical means&quot; is literally nonsensical. It's an incoherent thought. No answer can be correct because the question is beyond incorrect; it's so misguided that it's not even wrong." CreationDate="2016-04-12T20:42:23.643" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13330" PostId="6369" Score="1" Text="@DaveLiepmann I apologize for my poor wording. I am hoping that a person with the information to answer this question would be able to understand my question in spite of it. I used &quot;beyond the physical&quot; because that's the title of a $40 Systema DVD that apparently discusses some of this stuff." CreationDate="2016-04-12T20:53:34.563" UserId="4479" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13331" PostId="6335" Score="0" Text="The most amusing example I've come across of the legality of carrying weapons was an occasion where football fans were being searched prior to being allowed into a Scotland vs England football match. One gentleman dressed up as a highlander strolled past the police unmolested while wearing a Claymore on his back." CreationDate="2016-04-12T21:00:40.413" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13332" PostId="6370" Score="1" Text="@sirdank Yes, if you're looking for a mysterious, metaphysical &quot;force&quot; that isn't explained by known physical causes, I can't help you. Keep looking for it, and if you find it, come back and post about it. We all want to learn." CreationDate="2016-04-12T21:04:57.937" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13333" PostId="6360" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking Thank you for improve my explanation." CreationDate="2016-04-12T22:53:27.307" UserId="5818" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13334" PostId="1455" Score="0" Text="A little off topic, but the best way to avoid injury is to work your way up. Sitting backwards rolls, kneeling forwards rolls, standing forwards rolls, then take your rolls outside on grass, on harder grass, on home carpet, on industrial carpet. If you can comfortably roll on industrial carpet you can roll without getting hurt on a surface of any hardness. Each step harder may take months and hundreds of rolls, but will help you find out what part of the roll needs the most improvement. It takes a long time for the body to build the skill and strength to roll well." CreationDate="2016-04-12T23:32:20.113" UserId="7029" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13335" PostId="6372" Score="1" Text="How else would they keep you from drawing your sidearm before they stab you several times ... the 21 (or 10) foot rule." CreationDate="2016-04-12T23:35:32.603" UserId="7030" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13336" PostId="6370" Score="4" Text="To add to this answer, many martial arts and combat sports have now been studied from a biomechanical view point, and a lot of the mysticism can now be explained as proper application of forces and leverage. When something is too heavy, you use a lever to move it. In martial arts, many techniques use similar principles to use parts of your own body (or those of your opponent) as levers, allowing you to achieve results beyond the traditional application of physical strength." CreationDate="2016-04-13T02:42:03.170" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13337" PostId="6370" Score="2" Text="@Dungarth Indeed. And it might interest you to know that the internal mechanics of styles like T'ai Chi and Xing Yi involve other ways of achieving mechanical advantage and other interesting mechanical phenomenon. One of its most basic elements is the use of the body's structure, using the muscles mostly just to hold the bones in place. It's like how a stone arch works. Pressing against someone who can do this is like pressing against solid ground. Fun stuff. Not hard to learn, with the right instructor. Nothing mystical or non-physical going on, either." CreationDate="2016-04-13T03:07:15.213" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13338" PostId="6372" Score="1" Text="Yah, this frame shift from, &quot;so let's say somebody grabs your wrist!&quot;, to, &quot;so let's say you're in close quarters, and the shit goes down, so you're at an ambush\conversational distance, and while you're trying to go for your weapon the other guy grabs your wrist&quot; is significant." CreationDate="2016-04-13T05:02:08.650" UserId="7028" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13341" PostId="6378" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion please see the edit" CreationDate="2016-04-13T07:17:50.420" UserId="7033" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13343" PostId="6370" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand I am happy to speak with you about my experiences in the Shaolin Wahnam lineage. However, we have spoken at length in the past and I don't know what more I could offer you this time around. Also, you might be better off reading things from some more advanced students like their [comments](http://www.shaolin.org/comments/comments.html). Sifu Wong's [Q&amp;A series](http://www.shaolin.org/answers/overview.html) also contains a tremendous amount of information on topics regarding genuine internal training. Only thing is, it took me about six months to read all of it :) Best wishes," CreationDate="2016-04-13T12:34:05.630" UserId="4479" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13345" PostId="6369" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion: I dunno... I think he's got a good point about saying that he doesn't want the answer to consist of &quot;your belief system is ridiculous&quot;. Imagine if someone asked a question about the handling of transubstantiated host on the Christianity SE and several answers consisted of &quot;You know that you're an idiot for thinking it turns into flesh and blood, right?&quot;" CreationDate="2016-04-13T13:26:37.703" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13346" PostId="6370" Score="2" Text="@SteveWeigand - When studying Xinyi Liu He Quan, there was a lot of talk with Sifu about &quot;tendon power&quot; vs &quot;muscle power&quot;, which he equated to a debate between internal and external arts. Tendon power is structural in nature, but allows for subtle, but intense, power generation. He hinted that much of the mysticism found in internal arts can be explained by this tendon power. In his word, rooting your chi into the ground so it bounces back and reflects into your opponent is fancy talk for proper posture." CreationDate="2016-04-13T13:35:05.213" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13347" PostId="6369" Score="0" Text="I think a significant question is, would you accept the answer that most branches of Systema do not espouse a power other than the physical? Because what I seem to be finding doing some searches is that they generally do not include things like *qi*, c.f. the discussion of there being no &quot;*dim mak*&quot; in Systema at http://www.knucklepit.com/mixed-martial-arts-aaron_ellis-systema.htm" CreationDate="2016-04-13T13:36:22.537" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13348" PostId="6370" Score="0" Text="**Comments are not for discussions, we have chat for that...**" CreationDate="2016-04-13T13:37:58.723" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13350" PostId="6369" Score="2" Text="Based on the answers and discussion, I think your best path forward is to spend the $40 to buy the DVD and watch it." CreationDate="2016-04-13T14:41:27.680" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13351" PostId="6369" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan You've discovered part of my problem. russianmartialart.com talks about the Orthodox Christian faith more than a little implying that these guys believe in something &quot;beyond the physical&quot; but probably would not call it chi or dim mak since those are chinese terms rather than Russian or Orthodox Christian terms. Since I don't know the Russian or Orthodox Christian terms, I was hoping to learn them." CreationDate="2016-04-13T14:42:37.047" UserId="4479" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13352" PostId="6369" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion I added the last two paragraphs, despite their being 'noise' rather than 'signal', in an effort to avoid the 'noise' that has overwhelmed this question in spite of them. Personally, I would prefer to have a small amount of noise in the question than three answers and numerous comments which go against the spirit of it but I guess it's too late now." CreationDate="2016-04-13T14:52:30.960" UserId="4479" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13354" PostId="6369" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion I disagree that the changes should be removed. All current answers rely on the assertion of a negative: that there is no such thing as force generation without muscles. This is clearly unprovable simply by virtue of its being a negative assertion if for no other reasons. Yet, even with the disclaimer, this question has attracted three unsourced, unsubstantiated, and unhelpful answers. Therefore, I think a disclaimer that only answers making positive assertions are acceptable is more than warranted. I agree the last sentence is unnecessary." CreationDate="2016-04-13T15:09:19.927" UserId="4479" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13355" PostId="6369" Score="2" Text="I set up a Meta question at http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/432/specifically-asking-questions-about-martial-arts-mysticism. Maybe we could move discussion over to there?" CreationDate="2016-04-13T15:10:43.087" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13356" PostId="6380" Score="1" Text="I'll counter with this: What is universally the specific type of kick every adult male has practiced defending himself from? Protecting our exposed genitalia is one of the first defensive techniques boys learn, and it is almost ubiquitously so." CreationDate="2016-04-13T21:34:27.747" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13357" PostId="6380" Score="0" Text="@Zen_Hydra i've for about 3 years with groin kicks allowed and i dont find it easy to defend at all. mainly because of the speed of the kick. also untrained attackers usually have their eyes on the opponents head. to back this up and show it's not just my opinion: check out krav maga globals curriculum. most techniques have a groin attack of some sort. you may dispute this, but in my opinion there is nothing that goes over their expertise when it comes to self-defense. they even interview members who got into defense situations to see which techniques were effective and adapt accordingly" CreationDate="2016-04-13T21:45:56.713" UserId="7015" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13358" PostId="6380" Score="0" Text="@Zen_Hydra if you have any experience indicating otherwise i would be very interested to know more!" CreationDate="2016-04-13T21:49:32.577" UserId="7015" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13359" PostId="6380" Score="0" Text="You have a well considered answer but I would agree with @Zen_Hydra. When teaching self defense we specifically encourage students to **not** focus on the groin kick because it is a surprisingly hard target to hit. Or to turn that around, it is very easy to get it wrong and mishit or straight out miss the target. It is a very easy target for males to protect and they do it instinctively. You get a better return on investment if you concentrate on other targets." CreationDate="2016-04-13T23:58:56.593" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13360" PostId="6380" Score="0" Text="@slugster fair enough. may I ask which other targets you are teaching? and what self defense style is this you are talking about?" CreationDate="2016-04-14T00:00:43.700" UserId="7015" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13361" PostId="6380" Score="2" Text="&quot;Self defense&quot; doesn't have a particular style, it is an accumulation of techniques and strategies from whatever arts you choose. We teach a whole bunch of different self defense techniques, but we advise not to go for the groin kick because of its low rate of success and victims will tend to focus on it therefore getting into more trouble. A (downward) punch to the groin actually has a better chance of success than a kick due to it being unexpected, and also due to it actually hitting (and stretching) nerve clusters rather than hitting the scrotal area." CreationDate="2016-04-14T02:08:40.937" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13362" PostId="6380" Score="0" Text="@slugster I think modern self defense requires specialized styles, in particular with regard to weapons defense and strategy. But I don't want to open a can of worms here... About the downward punch to the groin I will have to manifestly disagree. I'm not sure which &quot;nerve clusters&quot; you are talking about, but I will again refer to the official Krav Maga technique: punch/slap attacks to the groin are usually a swing with the fingers curling around to slap upwards agains the groin." CreationDate="2016-04-14T08:41:18.287" UserId="7015" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13363" PostId="6380" Score="1" Text="@Numrok  I have a lifetime of experience being a male, and growing up around other males who regularly ambush attacked each others genitals (i.e. 'cup check'). Having done some degree of world travel when I was in the Army, I found this kind of male horse-play to be fairly ubiquitous. I have studied Western and Eastern combat arts since I was deemed old enough to hold a fencing saber and learn the fundamentals of boxing and wrestling (some of my father's passions).  The depth and breadth of my experience has shown me that groin kick's are a sub-optimal choice for self-defense." CreationDate="2016-04-14T16:07:52.660" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13364" PostId="6273" Score="0" Text="@slugster  That's a good point. There are going to be few situations in a street altercation where a feint is going to be a productive use of time/energy. Most of us are fortunate to live in a place and time were combat isn't a common part of life, and because of that few people have any practical combat discipline. The chances of being assaulted by someone competent enough to warrant the use of advanced tactics are very small.  They are definitely worth learning, but I wouldn't focus on them when teaching self-defense. There are more important things to emphasize." CreationDate="2016-04-14T16:49:44.117" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13365" PostId="1250" Score="1" Text="&quot;I train in non-grappling arts&quot;. You are likely mistaken. If you train in a Chinese derived martial art; karate, kung-fu, TaeKwonDo / TangSooDoo etc then your martial art does include grappling techniques. Whether you were taught them or not is down to the competence of your teacher." CreationDate="2016-04-14T18:06:49.413" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13366" PostId="6382" Score="0" Text="So, balance with base." CreationDate="2016-04-14T19:57:14.830" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13367" PostId="6381" Score="0" Text="For context, various answers [here](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/1009/347) assert a relationship between balance and rootedness." CreationDate="2016-04-14T20:06:14.247" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13368" PostId="6380" Score="0" Text="@Zen_Hydra i was not trying to question your expertise in martial arts (pls excuse if it came across like that). all i was doing is referring to specialised self-defense styles whose masters put a lot of work into developing strategies (see my other comments). so this doesnt come from my &quot;lifetime of experience&quot;, but rather IMO reliable sources." CreationDate="2016-04-15T08:31:09.020" UserId="7015" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13369" PostId="6380" Score="0" Text="@Zen_Hydra also i think that self-defense is not the same as an accumulation of martial arts techniques. so if you give me a list of your experience and it does not include a specialised self-defense sport, i'd be forced to say you're just a self-proclaimed expert. i dont claim i am, but the least you could do is refer to curricula or specific techniques rather than say how good you are at boxing. you can be the greatest boxet of all time, doesnt mean you know how to disarm a gun" CreationDate="2016-04-15T08:35:23.600" UserId="7015" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13370" PostId="6380" Score="0" Text="@Numrok A snap kick to the groin is a snap kick to the groin. It doesn't matter if you learned it from Krav Maga, Wing Chun, Goju-Ryu karate, or an anti-rape class at the YMCA. The mechanics are the same, and effectiveness against an aggressor are the same. Krav Maga isn't some ultimate authority when it comes to self defense. Every combat art I have studied, seen, or even read about focuses an self-defense. That's kind of the whole point of the martial arts - preserving your own life and minimizing/eliminating potential threats to it. You asked if I had experience to the contrary, and I do." CreationDate="2016-04-15T13:58:24.957" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13371" PostId="6380" Score="0" Text="@Zen_Hydra Part 1: I completely agree that it does not have authority on self defense, but in particular Eyal Yanilov's Krav Maga Global brings quite convincing arguments to the table when thinking about which techniques work. You and me have argued from a theoretical point and we both have experience in Martial Arts and still disagree, since our styles teach different things. So how should we decide which technique is more effective?" CreationDate="2016-04-15T16:21:52.327" UserId="7015" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13372" PostId="6380" Score="0" Text="Part 2:  Well, the most reasonable thing is surely to teach people the different techniques and if someone gets into an actual self-defense situation where they have to apply it we interview them, let them describe the situation and see which techniques worked. KMG have been doing that for over a decade now. Their curriculum is dynamic in that sense and not based on someone's &quot;own experience&quot;, traditional techniques or (most importantly) not the misconception that techniques that work in training work in real life." CreationDate="2016-04-15T16:24:40.267" UserId="7015" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13373" PostId="6380" Score="0" Text="Part 3:  I'm just saying this to show you that I'm trying to argue rationally. If you have any counterargument I am happy to hear and consider is, but please don't list your experience again or how you protect your balls when your friends try to kick you..." CreationDate="2016-04-15T16:25:31.063" UserId="7015" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13374" PostId="6380" Score="0" Text="@Numrock First, you don't get to complain about me citing my personal experience when you explicitly asked for it. Second, the issue is more than our styles disagreeing on a particular point. It's that multiple disciplines plus a preponderance of evidence contradicts the notion that a groin kick is an optimal defense against a male aggressor. Every male grows up learning to protect their vulnerable external genitalia, and even a successful kick isn't necessarily debilitating. There are more effective ways to use a kick in self-defense (an excellent example is an oblique kick to the knee)." CreationDate="2016-04-15T18:11:47.243" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13375" PostId="6380" Score="0" Text="@Zen_Hydra a &quot;preponderance of evidence&quot;. Would you care to provide it? So far I haven't heard any evidence, not even references other than yourselves were named. Also, about that instinct to defend your groin, I'm gonna leave this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daNgf7zehrk" CreationDate="2016-04-15T18:51:46.810" UserId="7015" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13376" PostId="6384" Score="0" Text="I've never received a direct explanation but my understanding is that it refers to any position where you force the person's head to turn, such as with your shoulder (Shoulder of Justice in side control) or your forearm (e.g. during a rear naked choke)" CreationDate="2016-04-16T20:10:05.453" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13379" PostId="6362" Score="0" Text="I mean in exactly these moments, as example people like me are not good runners, I pretty bad at this, would you still say keep running? And is it okay when I would sacrifice myself by holding them of to save someone other's life?" CreationDate="2016-04-18T06:30:58.420" UserId="6686" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13380" PostId="6362" Score="0" Text="I said start running NOW. There is nothing else you can do to prepare for these encounter except just totally avoid them, and in your case, avoiding means moving to some safe city/country. Welcome to Finland, nothing ever happens here." CreationDate="2016-04-18T06:35:40.957" UserId="6488" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13381" PostId="6362" Score="0" Text="Yes I know what you mean, but something like this can happen in every country anywhere random, my question is: if I would be attacked now, should I still run? what's with all the people who either have a problem in the legs or whatever and they aren't good at running, defending? And if they follow you, still keep running or stop and face them?" CreationDate="2016-04-18T06:50:52.060" UserId="6686" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13382" PostId="6391" Score="0" Text="Good swordsmanship in films: Basil Rathbone, Christopher Lee... It does happen.  Although, of course, the fights are designed to be entertaining not realistic." CreationDate="2016-04-18T07:41:27.817" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13383" PostId="6392" Score="5" Text="Would be helpful if you could add whether your school is ITF or WTF." CreationDate="2016-04-18T14:02:37.860" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13386" PostId="4916" Score="1" Text="Back again to update.&#xA;&#xA;I started doing physio therapy at home, and started feeling the results about a month into it.&#xA;&#xA;Final indicator that it's working was a friend I haven't seen in a good while whom thought that I was hitting the gym due to broader shoulders and back.&#xA;&#xA;My back and shoulders were always built and strong, but you couldn't see it due to my slouch.&#xA;&#xA;When I started physio I found out I have shoulder,neck, lower back, hip, knee, wrists and heel injuries. My body by the looks of it just avoided tensing those areas after injuries which turned me into Quasimodo.&#xA;&#xA;Thanks again Dave L" CreationDate="2016-04-19T12:05:47.307" UserId="5571" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13388" PostId="5995" Score="2" Text="sometimes we train in regular ring, split in two halves by plain piece of rope. In every half there are two fighters. Sparring that way you have limited maneuver space (still you can &quot;bend&quot; rope a bit) so you can focus more on your offense/defense technique. IMHO Buying special &quot;micro&quot; ring seems like a waste of money" CreationDate="2016-04-20T09:23:34.157" UserId="7060" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13390" PostId="34" Score="0" Text="martial arts = art of war, i guess many &quot;ring fighting sports&quot; don't qualify as martial arts, including bjj, taekwondo, judo, etc. but ninjutsu does" CreationDate="2016-04-20T10:54:39.167" UserId="7061" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13391" PostId="6399" Score="2" Text="Your answer would be much improved if you had a source/reference for you claims." CreationDate="2016-04-20T12:09:46.593" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13392" PostId="6399" Score="0" Text="Sorry @Sardathrion the moment I saw this question, I typed what I actually saw few days back when I went to pick up my brother from his Boxing training camp." CreationDate="2016-04-20T13:06:11.263" UserId="7062" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13393" PostId="6399" Score="0" Text="No worries. ^_~" CreationDate="2016-04-20T13:14:40.497" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13394" PostId="6399" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion :) Well not an actual reference but we have this hollywood movie &quot;Never back down&quot; In that the trainer talks in detail about this technique. haha!" CreationDate="2016-04-20T13:25:39.327" UserId="7062" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13395" PostId="6401" Score="0" Text="I'm not sure what gripping the core means. Look at a skeleton of a human, there's a big gap in the middle where we bend. A flaccid abdomen will mean the only force available *must* come from the upper body, literally just the arms. A rigid abdomen, or tightening abdomen at impact allows force to be supplied additionally from the legs, with much larger muscles." CreationDate="2016-04-20T22:31:34.223" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13396" PostId="6393" Score="0" Text="crossface does much more than just a position in side control" CreationDate="2016-04-21T03:04:08.497" UserId="5818" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13397" PostId="6393" Score="0" Text="If you talk about the crossface with any person who has trained BJJ for more than a week,  you will have a mutual understanding of the position I described.  Your answer was basically useless." CreationDate="2016-04-21T03:53:10.523" UserId="7048" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13399" PostId="6401" Score="1" Text="@css1971 The [core](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_(anatomy)) is used to mean the major muscles in the torso (including the abdomen). So the rest of your comment is the benefit I am trying to describe." CreationDate="2016-04-21T08:46:48.660" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13400" PostId="5995" Score="0" Text="It may be that it is geared towards home gyms or maximizing space in a gym, i know i cant fit a full sized ring in a garage or spare room." CreationDate="2016-04-21T09:44:50.820" UserId="6745" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13401" PostId="6405" Score="1" Text="Your answer would be much improved if you had a source/reference for you claims." CreationDate="2016-04-21T10:28:13.710" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13402" PostId="6411" Score="0" Text="ok, seems like a good start, but i actually would rather not point at my current even it's his fault, i think something like &quot; i think i made more progression when we didn't have fixed partner&quot;" CreationDate="2016-04-22T19:51:29.933" UserId="7069" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13403" PostId="6411" Score="0" Text="That would be better, but you would have to consider, and then consult the viewpoints of the other people in your class - do they want to have fixed partners or not?" CreationDate="2016-04-22T20:03:50.940" UserId="7047" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13404" PostId="6412" Score="0" Text="@b-ja-a-a welcome to the site, and thank you for your answer! please review our guidelines for how to provide quality answers (http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help/how-to-answer)  - specifically, we would prefer if you provide context around the link - ie.  &quot;so your fellow users will have some idea what it is and why it’s there. Always quote the most relevant part of an important link, in case the target site is unreachable or goes permanently offline.&quot;. alternatively, you can include this as a comment on the original question, instead of a proposed answer." CreationDate="2016-04-22T20:51:36.333" UserId="146" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13405" PostId="6380" Score="0" Text="@Zen_Hydra where you at man?" CreationDate="2016-04-22T22:24:11.800" UserId="7015" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13406" PostId="6398" Score="0" Text="I've had the wind knocked out of me a few times, but I've never thought about whether it would be less of a problem if my lungs were already empty (or close to it).  I'd rather take your word for it than try to disprove it. :)" CreationDate="2016-04-23T00:53:20.033" UserId="6104" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13407" PostId="6411" Score="0" Text="'when your sifu is in a good mood'?? - if you are scared to talk openly and express yourself then I believe you should change the training place! Sifu is also a human like everybody else and the mood has nothing to do with it, it is all about being a professional where emotions should have no impact." CreationDate="2016-04-23T05:38:49.847" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13408" PostId="6411" Score="0" Text="I mean that if your sifu has had a hard day, you might not want to approach him because he has a lot on is plate at the moment." CreationDate="2016-04-23T09:09:01.503" UserId="7047" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13409" PostId="6411" Score="0" Text="Sorry for any disrespect" CreationDate="2016-04-23T09:09:11.863" UserId="7047" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13410" PostId="6420" Score="5" Text="Who says this? Static flexibility may help, but *essential* seems bold to me." CreationDate="2016-04-24T10:53:44.003" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13411" PostId="6421" Score="0" Text="That's a really broad question... but I think that it does have concrete answers in terms of listing the criteria to consider. I will mull on this." CreationDate="2016-04-24T13:54:07.900" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13412" PostId="6421" Score="3" Text="Start by reading http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/466/5961. If you are looking for more feedback, please edit your question to include more information about your goals and any significant constraints you may have." CreationDate="2016-04-24T14:04:53.037" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13413" PostId="6421" Score="0" Text="@mattm: This is what the vote to close, duplicate is for." CreationDate="2016-04-24T14:43:14.993" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13414" PostId="6423" Score="0" Text="And, in some cases, full splits may be impossible for some people, due to the angle of the hip socket and the head of the femur.  You can lengthen muscle, you can even lengthen tendons (which is a bad idea for your joints), but you can't push bone through bone." CreationDate="2016-04-24T15:39:34.567" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13415" PostId="6421" Score="0" Text="Let us know: what you are looking for in a martial art, how long you are looking to train, what restrictions may apply to your training.  Otherwise it's like saying &quot;Which direction should I walk?&quot; No one has enough context to help you." CreationDate="2016-04-24T15:41:33.267" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13416" PostId="6421" Score="0" Text="Ah. I thought we'd covered this one before...&#xA;&#xA;But if that question doesn't cover you, perhaps because you have different circumstances, just edit that info into your question and it will be noted as potentially able to be reopened." CreationDate="2016-04-24T15:56:55.833" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13417" PostId="6411" Score="0" Text="What if you have had a hard day and a lot on your plate, does your sifu avoid approaching to you? Again, it is all about Profesional behaviour. His emotions and private issues have nothing to do with you." CreationDate="2016-04-24T21:56:35.237" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13418" PostId="6413" Score="2" Text="+1.  I challenge the last sentence, because I think there are many ways to teach, and there are some &quot;good&quot; instructors who find ways to be good without asking &quot;why,&quot; but I agree that it's a pretty reasonable metric.  For those teachers whose styles are less inclined towards &quot;why,&quot; a related question might be &quot;Sifu, can you help me get as much as possible out of the situation you have presented me with?&quot;  I have found that one approach or the other typically is appreciated.  Both lead to the same logic as the rest of Steve's post, just from a slightly different starting point." CreationDate="2016-04-24T23:06:07.887" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13419" PostId="6369" Score="0" Text="Are you looking for a general answer to &quot;beyond physical&quot; interactions in martial arts, or specifically Systema's version of it?" CreationDate="2016-04-25T01:28:38.440" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13423" PostId="6426" Score="3" Text="I doubt the statistical power here." CreationDate="2016-04-25T08:18:22.927" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13425" PostId="6369" Score="0" Text="@CortAmmon Specifically, Systema's version of it. If you glance around the rest of the &quot;beyond the physical&quot; questions out here, you will see that I've made my opinion on the matter clear :)" CreationDate="2016-04-25T12:33:35.327" UserId="4479" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13426" PostId="6423" Score="0" Text="@Bankuei Are we talking about a maxiumum of 170 degrees instead of 180 degrees? Or something more drastic?" CreationDate="2016-04-25T13:07:51.080" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13427" PostId="6380" Score="0" Text="@Numrok  I've said I have to say on the matter. There doesn't seem to be anything productive coming out of this back and forth." CreationDate="2016-04-25T13:27:55.260" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13428" PostId="6380" Score="0" Text="@Zen_Hydra IMO i was giving very rational and productive arguments. while i accept that you disagree the back and forth is on you because you werent adressing my points. instead you were just repeating your argument that i had already adressed. i even gave a video example showing that groin kicks work which clearly goes against your claim that man can protect theor geoin due to some natural reflexes. also in the video it is clearly the groin kick that forced him to his knees while the initial punches didnt do much. and now you just say there is nothing productive because it doesnt support you?" CreationDate="2016-04-25T14:20:41.723" UserId="7015" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13429" PostId="6423" Score="0" Text="It actually depends on the shape of your hip angle.  I've seen someone with something as low as 140 degrees in a class, but that was an outlier.  The closer the trochanter gets to a 90 degree &quot;L&quot; shape compared to the femur, the less actual ROM you get for side splits.   Forward/backward splits don't suffer this problem." CreationDate="2016-04-25T15:21:07.847" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13430" PostId="6426" Score="1" Text="@DaveLiepmann - I do too - although the cases I've mentioned are only what I found in a single, speculative search, and there are surely many more cases that fit the profile, I am dubious of there being any statistical significance, and trying to prove/disprove it would be laborious and time-consuming.  I don't even know of any records of all the professional boxers who have died in  the ring in the last 50/70/100 years or whatever." CreationDate="2016-04-26T01:11:41.887" UserId="6104" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13431" PostId="6426" Score="4" Text="This is the most comprehensive I am aware of: http://ejmas.com/jcs/velazquez/index.html" CreationDate="2016-04-26T06:26:42.353" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13432" PostId="6431" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site. I edited your question a little to make it more readable. It is a really good question." CreationDate="2016-04-26T06:33:28.757" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13434" PostId="6431" Score="0" Text="*Forbidden Kingdom* might not have been a great film, but at the core &quot;You have to learn the form in order to learn the formless&quot; is a nice little quote. But from a perspective of training sciences, &quot;perfecting&quot; the *form* (~10k-16k executions) without adapting to your specific body mechanics will do no good, you would have to un- and relearn in order to adapt. You should adjust it after you have the main features correct. Each form is meaningless if it isn't adjusted to the material. It's like making a teddybear out of steel. The quote holds for the *adjusted form*, though." CreationDate="2016-04-26T13:15:23.453" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13435" PostId="6435" Score="4" Text="Welcome to Martial Arts! There are [several questions about self-training](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/self-training?sort=votes) on this website. I think you may find some interesting answers [in this question](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/2108/88). If those answers don't help please edit your question and clarify what it is you are looking for." CreationDate="2016-04-27T06:25:11.907" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13436" PostId="2172" Score="0" Text="While there is some dabbling with fencing and archery in the SCA (YMMV), the melees and similar lists have more in common with a boffer LARP than they do a HEMA. I've seen a great deal of bad techniques and a general disregard of edge alignment that wouldn't pass muster in most HEMA schools.  SCA errs on the side of being an enjoyable hobby, rather than getting bogged down by too much authenticity (this is not an insult)." CreationDate="2016-04-27T14:37:48.370" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13437" PostId="2056" Score="0" Text="Most open-hand martial arts with weapon elements don't go into much depth in the use of said weapons. They teach a few basic techniques and a couple forms. There are a few martial arts which focus on only a couple weapons, but have a much deeper curriculum on the weapon use. Then there are martial arts dedicated to the use of one (or more) weapons, and largely to the exclusion of unarmed techniques (e.g. kenjutsu/iaido).  What are you more interested in, a broad but shallow sampling of weapon techniques, or a more in-depth and narrowly focused curriculum?" CreationDate="2016-04-27T14:53:51.037" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13438" PostId="2172" Score="0" Text="That is true, the sword fighting is their modern sport rather then historical combat. One can work to use historical style within their game (something I am doing now with longsword) but that is one'e prerogative. &#xA;That said, it still is teaching effective combat techniques and weapon use in both single and group situations and the culture of it being a sport means that one is aware then they are not effective." CreationDate="2016-04-27T15:03:38.310" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13439" PostId="6435" Score="0" Text="What are the goals of your training? Are you wanting to train for self-defense/combat effectiveness, or are you more interested in the art aspects?  How rigidly do you want to cleave to the curriculum of your school? Also, what are the reasons you are unable or uninterested in learning directly from your school?" CreationDate="2016-04-27T19:03:34.437" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13440" PostId="6439" Score="1" Text="Considering the dubious nature of 'ninja arts,' I would have a very difficult time recommending them to someone looking to study practical weapon techniques." CreationDate="2016-04-27T19:16:13.270" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13441" PostId="6439" Score="0" Text="*shrug* Not having been in any sort of melee outside of SCA and Escrima, I can't speak too much to it, but what I learned was pretty bare of any sort of mysticism flashiness. Instead, it focused on things like how to keep the knife out of immediate view to keep your opponent focused on it, and where to cut." CreationDate="2016-04-27T19:21:17.240" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13442" PostId="2172" Score="0" Text="@ Btuman  Your experience may differ from mine, but I witnessed many instances of techniques which functioned sufficiently for the game-like rules of SCA combat, which would be very problematic (even dangerous) if translated to a real weapon use." CreationDate="2016-04-27T19:24:10.377" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13443" PostId="6439" Score="0" Text="Part of the problem with situations like that is that the only people who could verify the legitimacy of the techniques being taught probably wouldn't be attending the classes to begin with. I'm referring to those educated in the use of these weapons from an established, reputable martial lineage. The average lay-person isn't going to be able to differentiate what is a realistic technique from something modeled on what an instructor saw in a Shaw Bros flick." CreationDate="2016-04-27T19:33:32.200" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13444" PostId="6439" Score="0" Text="I'd also like to be clear. What I said above really only matters if one is training to have practical combat skill.  If one is having fun learning ninja arts and their goal is to have fun, they aren't doing anything wrong. When someone is seriously training in self-defense/combat arts, they need to be able to recognize what is grounded in field-tested experience and what is a dangerous, educational trap (and/or straight up garbage). In pursuit of combat effectiveness, one can either find a means of identifying legitimate curriculum by reputation and lineage, or they can  use trial and error." CreationDate="2016-04-27T19:44:01.137" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13445" PostId="6435" Score="0" Text="My main goal is just health I suppose. Kung Fu provides spiritual benefit and physical benefit. Im interested in all aspects of Kung Fu but primarily focus on the eternal side of the art. I am unable to commit to my local school due to my scedule with work and college. However I am also not a fan of my schools teachings. They mostly focus on aggression and violence even though there is so much more to learn than how to inflict a terrible injury. I primarily study fukein white crane style but have now ways of learning new forms without the help of my teacher." CreationDate="2016-04-28T01:16:57.523" UserId="7084" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13446" PostId="6435" Score="0" Text="I go to sparing every 2 or 3 weeks and that does help with my applications but i want different ways for practicing on my own and learning new forms." CreationDate="2016-04-28T01:18:44.007" UserId="7084" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13448" PostId="6426" Score="1" Text="@DaveLiepmann: Could you write your comments as an answer?" CreationDate="2016-04-28T07:32:07.203" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13449" PostId="5969" Score="0" Text="@mitro My guess is that he live in a country where people no longer respect life of other and no longer have a real police to keep order." CreationDate="2016-04-28T08:19:22.827" UserId="6344" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13450" PostId="2863" Score="0" Text="+1, very much agree on this. I do sparring in a gym, I'm a light heavyweight myself and sparring anyone from welterweight to super heavyweight. My boxing style greatly depends on which size and pace the guy I am sparring against is at. Me(81kg) vs a 110kg guy? Yeah, I'm not gonna out-reach him, so I need to get inside FAST and then out. Vs a smaller welterweight who is faster than me, I try to outjab him and use footwork to get him cornered... like you describe. It all depends." CreationDate="2016-04-28T10:47:35.430" UserId="6601" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13451" PostId="6440" Score="0" Text="Don't forget to link the HEMA Alliance page: http://www.hemaalliance.com/&#xA;&#xA;I was looking for a straight HEMA answer, and yours is it!" CreationDate="2016-04-28T13:41:17.727" UserId="6374" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13452" PostId="6441" Score="1" Text="HEMA stands for Historic(al) European Martial Arts ... saying &quot;HEMA arts&quot; is redundant, like &quot;Judo-do&quot;. There is the Blume des Kampfes, which predated Fiore, but obviously we can't list all manuscripts here!" CreationDate="2016-04-28T13:46:36.737" UserId="6374" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13453" PostId="6441" Score="0" Text="I'm aware it's a case of RAS syndrome, but I'm afraid it's inevitable and will be used everywhere. I have a suspicion it will very regularly be doubly RAS'd with both martial and arts." CreationDate="2016-04-28T14:04:45.590" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13454" PostId="6413" Score="1" Text="Sorry to choose yours anwers a bit late i didn't have the chance to see my sifu for work reasons i hope i can talk with him this weekend, thank you for you insight" CreationDate="2016-04-28T14:27:46.590" UserId="7069" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13455" PostId="2172" Score="0" Text="I think that is true for almost any combat sport" CreationDate="2016-04-28T16:05:44.330" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13456" PostId="2172" Score="0" Text="True, but I wouldn't recommend kendo to someone who wanted to learn practical katana use.  The question asked for explicitly 'realistic' weapon arts, and the SCA primarily teaches one how to score touches with pieces of rattan." CreationDate="2016-04-28T16:25:32.570" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13457" PostId="6444" Score="0" Text="thank you for your insight i think i will ask my teacher if he could do demos for me on video. Sounds like a great idea. You make a fare point that these forms were created by others who didn't necessarily have special insights so considering that I have a lot of experience with the forms i have already have been working on there is no reason why i wouldn't be able to create my own variations of these forms for myself. Perhaps if I develop a form i am confident with I can test it in sparring at my local school and see how it does and how I can make it more effective." CreationDate="2016-04-29T01:34:11.023" UserId="7084" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13460" PostId="6398" Score="1" Text="I most definitely can't recommend it, no! Nor can I recommend forgetting to breathe, because your muscles will tell you it's not cool.. and gas you out." CreationDate="2016-04-29T07:23:12.350" UserId="6601" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13461" PostId="6446" Score="0" Text="I'm afraid I am going to have to ask for sources for these claims." CreationDate="2016-04-29T07:54:43.050" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13462" PostId="6449" Score="0" Text="I guess it also depends on the intent of the clinch - fighters can just get bound up, but some fighters use it cynically to kill a fight. Determining that intent can be tough in some cases and borderline calls can easily lead to spectator dissatisfaction. Also top level boxing is very focused on making money - you'll have a problem attracting certain &quot;stars&quot; for your promotion if you start to penalize them too heavily for cynical clinching." CreationDate="2016-04-29T12:57:21.117" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13463" PostId="6449" Score="0" Text="@slugster yeah exactly, and yes, heavyweights clinch waaay too much .. But you have to remember, the ring is MUCH smaller for them, than some 122lbs-guys. They have long legs and long arms, it doesn't take many moves to end up in each other's face compared to the smaller and faster guys." CreationDate="2016-04-29T13:30:21.637" UserId="6601" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13464" PostId="6444" Score="0" Text="@Ian Cloyd  You are welcome. I'm glad I could be of service, and good luck with your training." CreationDate="2016-04-29T13:41:29.637" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13465" PostId="6443" Score="1" Text="Not a universal answer, but definitely one for someone on the ground." CreationDate="2016-04-29T14:15:11.483" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13466" PostId="6446" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion It would be a very good answer if he had provided sources, though." CreationDate="2016-04-29T16:01:39.347" UserId="6654" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13467" PostId="2146" Score="1" Text="@stslavik why don't you improve your comment with some sources and write it as an answer?" CreationDate="2016-04-29T16:03:19.760" UserId="6654" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13468" PostId="6446" Score="0" Text="@Endery: Yes, it would be! Possibly enough to be accepted." CreationDate="2016-04-29T16:07:33.210" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13469" PostId="6449" Score="0" Text="Also, I'd add that clinching is (at least in theory or supposedly) punished by the judges scoring the fight." CreationDate="2016-04-29T16:08:59.657" UserId="7090" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13470" PostId="6450" Score="0" Text="There are in fact a lot of observations (boxing matches) for a low probability event (deaths). Given a sufficient number of boxing matches of both father in corner and not, it is possible to make a statistical statement about the difference in the two groups, even if the overall number of deaths is small (but &gt; 5 for all groups). See http://stats.stackexchange.com/questions/113602/test-if-two-binomial-distributions-are-statistically-different-from-each-other." CreationDate="2016-04-29T20:54:08.680" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13471" PostId="6451" Score="3" Text="Ed O'Neill, the actor and star of TV's &quot;Married With Children&quot;, started his BJJ training at age 41 and received his black belt at age 61. FYI: http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/1/15/7551375/ed-o-neill-profile-jiu-jitsu-training" CreationDate="2016-04-30T02:22:24.163" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13472" PostId="6450" Score="0" Text="@mattm &quot;GIVEN...&quot; well, you don't have that data, do you? Assuming you were able to get enough data on the boxing fights with Dads in the corner or not, you might be able to get a good idea of Dads coaching style, but you still wouldn't have enough data about the actual event you are trying to predict (fighter death correlation with presence of the Dad in the corner) to validate your theory. And no, a sample size of &gt;5 won't do. You can do maths all day long, but if you try to assign meaning to a statistic based on such a small sample, you are falling for the law of small numbers fallacy." CreationDate="2016-04-30T04:16:57.153" UserId="1179" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13473" PostId="6453" Score="1" Text="Do you have one or two photos of the problem?" CreationDate="2016-05-01T06:12:22.613" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13475" PostId="6418" Score="0" Text="Thank you for your response. I am afraid I will have to disagree on your assessment of Wing Chun. From what I have seen it is very much a self defense system. I cannot speak to Krav Maga as I have never studied it. Ninjitsu is a not a martial art nor a fighting style. It is the study of assassination and deception." CreationDate="2016-05-01T19:06:28.997" UserId="7012" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13476" PostId="6418" Score="0" Text="@webworm i'm sure not everything in my comment is correct. all i was trying to say in the first part is that you should study a dedicated self-defense system, not some kind of hybrid pretending to teach self-defense. with regard to wing tsun: it might teach some self-defense, it is most certainly not a thought through self-defense system" CreationDate="2016-05-01T20:47:35.460" UserId="7015" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13478" PostId="6418" Score="0" Text="@webworm I edited my answer to clarify my concerns particularly with Wing Chun." CreationDate="2016-05-02T08:25:21.807" UserId="7015" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13483" PostId="6456" Score="2" Text="It might help if you define those traditional benefits." CreationDate="2016-05-02T14:31:08.253" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13485" PostId="6457" Score="0" Text="As I mention in the last section above I intend to seek a new martial art after the summer. But I would like to spar during summer and then get an idea on how to punch the other person." CreationDate="2016-05-02T15:13:00.367" UserId="6969" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13486" PostId="6451" Score="1" Text="Thanks Steve.  That was a great read.  &quot;Married With Children&quot; was one of my favorite shows." CreationDate="2016-05-02T15:29:04.760" UserId="1973" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13487" PostId="6456" Score="2" Text="This is inviting debate and discussion both of which are off topic." CreationDate="2016-05-02T18:37:33.163" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13489" PostId="6457" Score="2" Text="@Helgegren I'm sorry I don't have a better answer. The unfortunate truth as I see it is that until you start that new art you're trying to reinvent the wheel. Where the wheel is being punched in the face." CreationDate="2016-05-02T20:42:55.310" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13491" PostId="6462" Score="2" Text="Maybe it is eye candy?..." CreationDate="2016-05-03T06:40:35.227" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13493" PostId="6458" Score="1" Text="Thank you. I didn't want to go into technical specifics unless the OP/question author specified they wanted any. In this case, the OP seems to be fairly inexperienced and I don't want to confuse them with jargon and/or unnecessary technical depth which might seem overwhelming." CreationDate="2016-05-03T13:25:09.907" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13494" PostId="6456" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion no I think this is quite on topic, a much argued topic in the martial arts world (that I kinda feel needs to be put to rest somehow), but it is also on topic because of the mental aspects. Your mind matters in martial arts, and this asker's frustration and feelings about the martial arts he's practicing are going to have an effect on his performance in all situations (whether he's training, using it in a ring fight or using it in a street fight, these feelings and emotions are going to be like having a small ball and chain on his leg, which is why this is important)" CreationDate="2016-05-03T14:48:25.277" UserId="7102" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13495" PostId="6456" Score="1" Text="@Cestarian: Whether this topic is important or not has *no baring whatsoever on my vote to close and downvote*.  As currently phrased, the question invites debate/discussion by soliciting opinions. See the [help centre section on what not to ask](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help/dont-ask). In addition, I cannot fathom what the question is about: Sport? Competition? What or who is being killed? What are the traditional benefits alludes to?" CreationDate="2016-05-03T15:31:50.870" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13496" PostId="6456" Score="0" Text="**What concrete problem are you trying to solve here?** If we knew that, we could help you re-phrase the question..." CreationDate="2016-05-03T15:32:23.873" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13497" PostId="6456" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion I know that, I was just correcting you since you said it was off topic." CreationDate="2016-05-03T16:15:01.230" UserId="7102" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13498" PostId="6456" Score="0" Text="I said that discussion and debate were off topic.   What are you trying to correct there?" CreationDate="2016-05-03T17:19:41.633" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13499" PostId="2172" Score="0" Text="True, there are things that are lost when using rattan vs steel (this is also true for using blunt steel vs sharps or using sharps and not sparring ect)&#xA;Although I would point out that the guys who have been going to Battle of the Nations and have started rebated steel combat in the US have been primarily SCA guys. &#xA;Also, I don't know that I would call Calibration touch per say. It is hard hit for everything but stabbing in the face" CreationDate="2016-05-04T14:19:50.177" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13500" PostId="6464" Score="0" Text="5.  To hide the fact there may be a lot of blood, which will be getting soaked up in the shirt? - which would lead to a lot of shirt changes interupting the flow of the fight/ corner talks." CreationDate="2016-05-06T08:37:22.270" UserId="5993" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13501" PostId="6456" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion Oh, I must have misunderstood then, my bad." CreationDate="2016-05-06T17:13:31.930" UserId="7102" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13505" PostId="999" Score="0" Text="I have some hard data on my laptop.  The short version is that kickboxing, MMA, and boxing are all very heavily correlated with brain injury, but boxing is the worst by far, because there are more head shots and the fights are longer.  I'll share links tomorrow." CreationDate="2016-05-07T07:35:36.640" UserId="6104" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13506" PostId="6456" Score="0" Text="@Cestarian: Okay, cool! ^_~ I was mightily confused there... :)" CreationDate="2016-05-07T12:11:07.863" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13507" PostId="6475" Score="0" Text="The rule is straightforward, but Bute won and Taylor lost.  And although refs stop fights for safety concerns, the ref can't improve saftey after the last punch is thrown." CreationDate="2016-05-07T20:01:35.567" UserId="6104" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13508" PostId="999" Score="0" Text="http://www.medicaldaily.com/head-blows-and-brain-injury-boxing-and-mixed-martial-arts-cause-similar-loss-320000" CreationDate="2016-05-07T20:03:51.250" UserId="6104" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13509" PostId="6477" Score="0" Text="Please don't quote entire articles." CreationDate="2016-05-07T21:52:58.977" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13510" PostId="6477" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann - I didn't think I had, but you are correct.  Edited.  The only thing I've quoted in full now is the abstract of a journal article." CreationDate="2016-05-07T22:32:37.900" UserId="6104" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13511" PostId="6477" Score="0" Text="I removed the downvote for now but I'd still advise editing this way down. Do you *really* need every paragraph you quote?" CreationDate="2016-05-07T23:16:13.760" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13512" PostId="3142" Score="0" Text="Some of your suggestions are terrible in my opinion - learning &quot;Forms&quot; from video is akin to learning how to swim by mail - you think you're doing it right until you jump into the deep end and drown. As for limited usefulness - that's open for debate. Any form of exercise is of limited usefulness, so in that sense it's true." CreationDate="2016-05-07T23:43:26.583" UserId="6291" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13513" PostId="3142" Score="1" Text="Please downvote my answer, it's how the site works.  Also, if you see an answer you think works better, you can upvote it, or, if you have better options for the questioner, please submit your own answer." CreationDate="2016-05-08T00:22:09.247" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13515" PostId="3142" Score="0" Text="I can't downvote, not enough rep. I don't have a better option for the OP - I don't think MA can be taught effectively without direct access to an instructor, at least until there is a solid foundation. I think any answer which encourages self learning in this regard is a disservice." CreationDate="2016-05-08T13:17:22.133" UserId="6291" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13516" PostId="3142" Score="1" Text="That's an answer you can provide, then.  Sometimes the answer to questions are: &quot;There's no way this is going to work, here's what you should do instead.&quot;  It will be seen more and be more productive than commenting on individual answers." CreationDate="2016-05-08T23:05:13.747" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13518" PostId="1231" Score="1" Text="Head guards do not mitigate risk of concussion. They're only used for facial damage(cuts, bruises, blue eyes etc.)" CreationDate="2016-05-09T06:53:15.527" UserId="6601" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13519" PostId="1526" Score="0" Text="Headgear and large gloves(16 for sparring) do help a bit with brain damage - however it won't mitigate the risk at all, it's mostly for physical short term damage(cuts, bruises or the like). Some would argue that you're safer NOT wearing head gear(as per brain damage), since you catch more punches WITH a headguard on than you would without." CreationDate="2016-05-09T07:11:50.410" UserId="6601" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13520" PostId="2061" Score="0" Text="&quot;which can and probably will cause scarring of the brain and make you &quot;punch drunk&quot; after a few years.&quot; Not true at all if you're careful and take time off after concussions. Also your boxing style has much to say in this regard - as in, how careless you are." CreationDate="2016-05-09T07:12:47.080" UserId="6601" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13521" PostId="6474" Score="2" Text="Could you expand your answer to explain why he would get a particular belt?" CreationDate="2016-05-09T09:46:15.960" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13522" PostId="6473" Score="0" Text="This would appear to be primarily about sporting judgements rather than martial arts. Very similar questions can be asked about the judgement of referees with respect to soccer and rugby matches." CreationDate="2016-05-09T10:08:59.213" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13523" PostId="6474" Score="0" Text="the first belt is the white. Doesn't matter the age. A student who get any color belt (child or not)  shouldn't return to a white belt in case of change the age category." CreationDate="2016-05-10T07:11:49.067" UserId="5818" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13524" PostId="6482" Score="1" Text="Thanks for the huge answer. I can easily kick above my waist height - about shoulder height for round kick and side kick. But standing vertically (without bending to the side) I can raise my leg to the side about 3/4 to my hip. I was worried that stretching every day would be too much (like overtraining) but it sounds like you did way more. I won't be comparing myself to others, especially the young ones! Thanks again." CreationDate="2016-05-11T08:27:45.313" UserId="1669" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13525" PostId="6482" Score="0" Text="Well that's an interesting thought about over-training for stretching. I don't know if it's actually possible. I do know that stretching can affect muscle power (negatively), at least temporarily. But I don't think you have anything to worry about. Stretching frequently, as often as you can, is the key to developing flexibility. Good luck!" CreationDate="2016-05-11T14:17:14.647" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13526" PostId="6481" Score="1" Text="Have a look at [Bill &quot;Superfoot&quot; Wallace's videos](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbrKaxezC9A). The link is to his video on stretching for kicks." CreationDate="2016-05-12T15:08:35.543" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13527" PostId="6484" Score="0" Text="Looking at Danahar's system you can see there are some small key details about the differences between single leg x and ashi when applying leg locks @Dave Liepmann" CreationDate="2016-05-17T13:34:21.243" UserId="6760" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13528" PostId="6484" Score="0" Text="@ThatOneQuestionn I'd be interested to read links; I haven't yet seen his system described in detail." CreationDate="2016-05-17T14:25:54.150" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13529" PostId="6041" Score="0" Text="This reads as if BJJ took the same way as Judo, becoming more of a sport than a martial art for most competitives. The fights become highly tactical, and are in this sense interesting, but they are not *fights* anymore." CreationDate="2016-05-18T07:38:30.143" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13535" PostId="6487" Score="2" Text="*I do not fear the man that practice a thousand kicks once, I fear the man that practised one kick a thousand times.* -- **Bruce Lee**." CreationDate="2016-05-18T10:11:09.430" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13536" PostId="6487" Score="2" Text="I did win the British Open. So I guess mr Lee was onto something XD" CreationDate="2016-05-18T10:13:16.920" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13538" PostId="6488" Score="0" Text="I'm sure you must have done a Google search before asking here, [this Reddit thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/martialarts/comments/3eblyl/has_anyone_here_heard_of_the_martial_art_named/) is one of the higher placed links." CreationDate="2016-05-18T12:28:57.927" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13539" PostId="6488" Score="0" Text="I did, but maybe some personal experience could help me a little more decicion with discipline should i do =)" CreationDate="2016-05-18T16:03:18.187" UserId="7138" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13540" PostId="6041" Score="0" Text="Talking with friend of other martial arts, they complain about the same problem. On friend of my was disqualified from a Karate competition to be too aggressive. I can't understand it, if you are using the allowed movements." CreationDate="2016-05-18T22:59:35.860" UserId="5818" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13541" PostId="5350" Score="0" Text="Every competitive martial art is strategic.. Boxing and MMA likewise.." CreationDate="2016-05-19T06:53:18.353" UserId="6601" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13542" PostId="6487" Score="2" Text="I do much the same - just mix the speeds and heights up as I practice (slow motion and normal motion, low/middle/high)." CreationDate="2016-05-19T09:17:20.063" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13543" PostId="6494" Score="0" Text="Thank You! Just to clarify, are you suggesting that in real life, no amount of head/skull conditioning will allow an individual to break a brick with his head?" CreationDate="2016-05-19T19:08:30.823" UserId="5935" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13544" PostId="6494" Score="1" Text="@CSinha: At least it is a high risk. Always. No matter your condition. Look at all the funny videos where people run into timber that isn't prepared and just fail. But using your head instead of your chest and failing to break something for whatever reason can make serious and even mortal injuries." CreationDate="2016-05-19T20:24:33.377" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13545" PostId="6494" Score="0" Text="If you get yourself a brick that's made for construction (buildings), that one isn't going to break, no. People swing sledge hammers at those to break them. Using fists and especially your head will not end well." CreationDate="2016-05-19T20:50:31.627" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13546" PostId="6494" Score="0" Text="I agree with you. Some martial arts do not show &quot;real&quot; cases." CreationDate="2016-05-20T14:24:33.177" UserId="6474" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13548" PostId="6494" Score="0" Text="I think the thing to take from this is that not everything is at it seems in martial arts, so always be skeptical. It can take decades to realize that the super-human / supernatural abilities shown in martial arts are just fantasy. It's stuff made up in movies and promoted by martial arts schools to lure more paying students." CreationDate="2016-05-20T16:55:21.037" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13549" PostId="6420" Score="0" Text="I'm a black belt in judo, I've won national competitions, and I've never been able to touch the ground, my feet or do the split. heck, even sitting on the floor with the knee fully expand is hard for me." CreationDate="2016-05-20T20:18:35.933" UserId="1526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13550" PostId="6501" Score="1" Text="Damn, so complicated aha, thanks for the detailed answer tho, tis will help me in my future journey" CreationDate="2016-05-21T09:28:18.127" UserId="6846" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13553" PostId="6504" Score="0" Text="Edited, thanks.  Let me know if it's still unclear!" CreationDate="2016-05-22T15:01:13.123" UserId="6206" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13554" PostId="6501" Score="1" Text="If it was easy, and there was a 100% reliable way of blocking all strikes, everyone would be doing that. Unfortunately, every method is going to be imperfect because of the reasons I stated above. Our brains simply can't track quick, close-range strikes infallibly. It's why there are thousands of different martial arts out there, each with their own strategies and methods." CreationDate="2016-05-22T18:50:02.277" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13555" PostId="6508" Score="0" Text="Thanks a lot Steve, Can you add reference for pictures or videos for exercises and the solution?" CreationDate="2016-05-23T09:22:01.753" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13556" PostId="6495" Score="0" Text="I havent think on capoeira, thank you mate =)" CreationDate="2016-05-23T09:54:40.917" UserId="7138" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13557" PostId="6504" Score="0" Text="Do you have a video or a image of this choke?" CreationDate="2016-05-23T12:25:45.500" UserId="5818" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13558" PostId="6508" Score="2" Text="I briefly looked for appropriate videos on youtube, but the problem is that the vast majority of demonstration videos show the same sort of improper attack setup. I think the reason for that is that it makes the demos look cool, since the instructor can just easily get out of it. To the average people watching, it's plausible and enticing. If they actually demo'd a realistic attack, their defense will look scary, not very easy, and labored. They won't be able to demo a quick and easy &quot;trick&quot;, which is what most of these videos do. Anyway, I'll post some videos if I find any worth posting." CreationDate="2016-05-23T14:21:08.180" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13559" PostId="6498" Score="0" Text="At least in boxing, learning to &quot;roll&quot; with the punches is an important defensive asset - because yes, you can't block them all,  but you can negate the impact of punches" CreationDate="2016-05-24T07:09:41.940" UserId="6601" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13560" PostId="6513" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site. This is a good answer, thank you." CreationDate="2016-05-24T12:38:26.663" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13561" PostId="558" Score="0" Text="how long you have been practicing ? after 6 mount or so your feet grain enough callus  to withstand any friction." CreationDate="2016-05-24T15:05:50.690" UserId="6344" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13565" PostId="6519" Score="2" Text="Hey Dave, what about Helio Gracie (139 lbs)  x Kimura (210 lbs) http://www.graciemag.com/2011/10/39169/ This is a huge size difference." CreationDate="2016-05-25T22:29:55.663" UserId="5818" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13566" PostId="6519" Score="0" Text="Yup. I think Rener and Rorion Gracie once had a good quote on this subject. They said that for every 20 pounds of weight someone has on you, you need to be one rank level higher than they are. Of course, it's just a gross generalization, but it's the principle that's important. Someone who weighs 100 pounds more than you, has a ton of muscle and is athletic, etc. is going to be hard to beat even for a multi-degree black belt. But it's not pointless to keep training. At some point your skill level will be high enough to deal with even that guy." CreationDate="2016-05-25T22:57:51.237" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13567" PostId="6518" Score="1" Text="Are you only looking at empty handed arts?  Size and power matter less when you're talking weapon arts." CreationDate="2016-05-26T02:41:19.213" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13568" PostId="5504" Score="0" Text="deep sigh... every webpage is the same NO DEFINITIVE ANSWER: I have no teeth whatsoever -English word spelled correctly- and I've search high and low for a &quot;GUM SHIELD&quot; no teeth just a gum.. is there an answer? NO! I give up!" CreationDate="2016-05-25T12:27:38.110" UserDisplayName="user7162" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13569" PostId="6519" Score="1" Text="@AFetter Your link doesn't work for me (subscription?), but A) Helio *lost* that match, and B) while Helio did give up some size, I view with great skepticism any specific weight reports from the Gracie camp." CreationDate="2016-05-26T07:38:25.077" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13570" PostId="6519" Score="1" Text="Brazilian newspapers declared Helio &quot;victorious&quot; since Kimura took more than some Gracie-announced amount of time to win by repeatedly smashing Helio to the mat and breaking his arm—nearly ripping it off, in fact. That it is viewed as anything but a terrible drubbing for BJJ is testament to the power of propaganda." CreationDate="2016-05-26T07:43:01.897" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13571" PostId="6518" Score="2" Text="This is gonna attract some attention from the Hot Network Questions, I can assure you" CreationDate="2016-05-26T08:35:51.470" UserId="7167" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13572" PostId="6522" Score="0" Text="If you could expand this, it might prove to be a good answer (be clearer about sideways or straight, why this might make a difference, and explain what you're basing this on)." CreationDate="2016-05-26T10:12:41.940" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13573" PostId="6519" Score="2" Text="Toshihiko Koga (-71 kg at that time!) startet at the *All Japan open weight Championships* (Judo) in 1990, fighting 100kg+ people and successfully advancing not to be stopped until the final, to add one additional example." CreationDate="2016-05-26T11:26:37.857" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13574" PostId="6522" Score="0" Text="Agreed. You need to explain what you mean." CreationDate="2016-05-26T13:01:48.550" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13575" PostId="6526" Score="0" Text="I know that one of the people quoted said &quot;**at least** six ways&quot;, but I've seen the reference to &quot;six&quot; or &quot;at least six&quot; too many times for it to be a coincidence." CreationDate="2016-05-26T17:33:51.597" UserId="6104" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13576" PostId="6520" Score="0" Text="^_^ Gun-fu is an amazing equalizer... really, most weapons are. But yeah, unarmed combat is a different beast." CreationDate="2016-05-26T17:35:57.700" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13577" PostId="6520" Score="0" Text="@ Sean Duggan  Guns are an amazing reversal of fortunes for the little guy. I'm 6'5&quot; and while hand-to-hand combat has always come pretty easy for me, my size suddenly becomes a disadvantage when guns come into play. This was really brought home for me when I regularly struggled to find effective cover during Army maneuvers." CreationDate="2016-05-26T18:16:45.193" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13578" PostId="6518" Score="0" Text="@MKII Yeah, I thought the context would be immediately obvious on this site. I forgot about the Hot Network Questions thing. I apologize to all the mislead souls." CreationDate="2016-05-26T18:32:53.530" UserId="7164" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13579" PostId="6518" Score="0" Text="@Bankuei Yes that's a fair point. Since it's not clear one way or another by the question, if you do have something valuable to say about weapons I would encourage you to share. I'm only really aware of the Naginata used extensively in Japan by women to even the odds when fighting against men." CreationDate="2016-05-26T18:35:43.420" UserId="7164" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13583" PostId="6426" Score="0" Text="Maybe because of the pride." CreationDate="2016-05-30T04:04:31.790" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13588" PostId="6544" Score="2" Text="The attacker starts with the initiative. Unless the intended victim is able to reach for the weapon without telegraphing and able to prepare and use it smoothly under stress, the odds are reasonably high that the attacker will obtain the weapon and either discard it (at best) or use it against the victim (worst)." CreationDate="2016-06-03T04:46:18.483" UserId="6599" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13589" PostId="2204" Score="0" Text="Trakshu-jitsu : scared as ____ runs faster than madder than _____" CreationDate="2016-06-03T04:49:32.877" UserId="6599" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13590" PostId="6544" Score="4" Text="I am voting to close this question as it is asking for a list of things (which we do not do well at all), it is overly broad and too localised at the same time, and is a [shark vs gorilla](http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2011/08/gorilla-vs-shark/) question." CreationDate="2016-06-03T07:19:09.313" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13591" PostId="6544" Score="0" Text="*&quot;giving one time to run away&quot;* - you better make sure you are a pretty fast runner - at most these shock/surprise devices will give you maybe a few seconds head start, that is all you should count on." CreationDate="2016-06-03T07:22:06.150" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13592" PostId="6544" Score="0" Text="[Obligatory no nonsense self defence link](http://nononsenseselfdefense.com/)..." CreationDate="2016-06-03T07:23:07.207" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13595" PostId="6544" Score="1" Text="I do not think you can. Self defence is a massive topic. Devices may help, hinder, and be useless depending on situations, locations, and attackers. *There is no one size fits all device*. I would suggest reading [no nonsense self defense](http://nononsenseselfdefense.com/) as a starting point. *I am not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV*: If you use any device as a weapon, you risk being treated as the attacker in any confrontation: [Police](https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q589.htm), [UK law](http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/self_defence/). This might apply in other locals too." CreationDate="2016-06-03T08:12:26.853" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13596" PostId="6544" Score="0" Text="Guns, knifes, extensible batons, paper sprays, kubatons all of them are ilegal to carry in my country but it is better to go to jail for defending you self (you know because in our times criminals have far more rights that citizens) that become a victim. The best ? guns no questions, every thing else dont come even close." CreationDate="2016-06-03T10:25:05.787" UserId="6344" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13602" PostId="6546" Score="0" Text="Thank you for answering. Yet, in the situation I talked about my legs were bent and kept firmly to the ground, so I could not move them at all. So I think I should focus on the hand techniques part or probably moving my turning or swinging my upper body part." CreationDate="2016-06-03T18:13:05.777" UserId="4367" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13605" PostId="6544" Score="0" Text="I'm trying to look up some solid studies for you (unfortunately, there's a lot of bad made-up BS to wade through), in the meantime you may want to look at this study funded by the DOJ: https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/211201.pdf - page 18 has stats about self defense vs. sexual assault &amp; general assault, and while it only lists &quot;weapons&quot; as a full category, it's worth considering compared to the many other categories it has ranging from &quot;calling for help&quot;, &quot;threatening&quot; etc." CreationDate="2016-06-05T06:33:22.663" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13606" PostId="6494" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand Can I please request you to check this video https://youtu.be/h0ltQr1x4_o?t=67 ?  I suspect these soldiers are actually breaking the bricks with their head. Thanks." CreationDate="2016-06-05T08:43:45.660" UserId="3090" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13609" PostId="6494" Score="1" Text="@D_S Nope. The bricks I see in that video were very long, not very thick, and had spacers between them. These weren't used for construction. Bricks that are very long and flat are going to be super easy to break compared with standard paver stone bricks or cinder blocks. And that these were not manufactured for construction leads me to believe they're a good deal more brittle than anything you could buy at Home Depot. Granted, it probably does take some effort and skill to break, but it's still an illusion, because they're not as hard as one might think." CreationDate="2016-06-05T21:31:35.647" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13610" PostId="6544" Score="2" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's explicitly about devices one can use for self protection. While self protection does intersect with martial arts, the question is definitely within the self protection area and outwith the martial art areas.&#xA;&#xA;If it were about the skills to develop to make use of such tools I would have a different opinion. As it stands it's probably best asked elsewhere. Perhaps a physical security stackexchange might be appropriate." CreationDate="2016-06-06T09:22:24.473" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13611" PostId="6546" Score="1" Text="Doing the basic release from this position is still effective - depending on the attackers ability to adjust they will either be forced to let go and move back or fall over backwards. This has always been one of my favourite demonstration techniques because it works regardless of the opponents size (and I am fairly small so having much larger partners is common)." CreationDate="2016-06-06T11:58:43.833" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13612" PostId="5574" Score="0" Text="There were machine made swords made during WW2, but they were primarily made as weapons for officers and NCOs in the field. The military actually taught a simplified kenjutsu/fencing curriculum for the use of these swords in the field. Because these swords were made as weapons, they are now largely illegal for a Japanese citizen to own. The traditionally made swords get around these weapon laws by being treated as art pieces. This is why many traditionally made Japanese swords (Nihonto) are referred to as 'art swords'." CreationDate="2016-06-06T14:02:44.247" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13613" PostId="5574" Score="0" Text="During WW2 there were also some traditionally made blades which were furnished with higher quality military style fittings, and they exist in a nebulous middle ground between gunto (military swords) and Nihonto." CreationDate="2016-06-06T14:03:03.013" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13614" PostId="5573" Score="2" Text="This is one of the reasons Nihonto exist as art pieces in Japan. It is a simple thing to use modern material science and machinery to construct a sword of superior structure to a traditionally constructed katana, but as an artifact made by a collaboration of master craftsmen, an 'art sword' is inarguably a piece of fine art. A good togishi alone puts 100+ hours into polishing a blade to not only a fine edge, but a showcase of a blade's character (highlighting the hamon and jihada). All of this work by master artisans is why Nihonto sell for such exorbitant prices." CreationDate="2016-06-06T14:22:11.773" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13615" PostId="5575" Score="1" Text="Many mid-tier production katana would be superior weapons to a traditionally made katana. The traditional process to make tamahagane is more art than science, and the pattern-welded nature of a traditional blade is out of necessity, and not an inherent strength (even a master smith can have a blade de-laminate). Modern metallurgy can dial-in the specific steel alloy desired, and modern forging and tempering techniques are far more precise than a human alone could ever be." CreationDate="2016-06-06T14:31:02.150" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13616" PostId="5383" Score="1" Text="@TheWudangKid It's not as simple a matter as you suggest. Katana are not, and were not, a uniform size (and sword size and shape was largely dependent of the fashion of the age). Ko-, chu-, and o- all exist as linguistic size modifiers for sword size. There is even some weird crossover with references to o-wakizashi (great short sword) and ko-gatana (short long sword). I think the terminology (like in the West) is largely a product of modern attempts at classification. Historically, it was probably just a weapon made to the specifications of someone's personal preference or perceived need." CreationDate="2016-06-06T15:14:19.867" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13617" PostId="5383" Score="1" Text="@TimothyAWiseman Musashi's intent was for a swordsman to train to be ambidextrous in order to wield a katana in one's off-hand if their dominant hand was no longer able. He was all about practicality and using the right tool for the job (and very importantly, de-mystifying the cult of the sword). His Niten Ichi-ryu has techniques for using the katana and wakizashi together (and separately), but not really using two equal length weapons (it would have been gauche two wear two katana in Musashi's lifetime). I'd also argue that two unequal length weapons have advantages over two of equal length." CreationDate="2016-06-06T15:25:56.850" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13618" PostId="6548" Score="3" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because &quot;Legalities of martial arts&quot; are off-topic." CreationDate="2016-06-06T21:50:53.973" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13619" PostId="6548" Score="3" Text="Activism and legality are two closely related but different topics thus I would say it is on topic but just." CreationDate="2016-06-07T07:48:15.523" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13620" PostId="2559" Score="0" Text="in renacement they used those two handed user size swords for gaining strength and also for improving your body coordination as you absolutely need to use your full body to swing such massive sword." CreationDate="2016-06-07T08:23:26.917" UserId="6344" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13621" PostId="6344" Score="0" Text="Unfortunately it is not that easy any defensive action it is an offence now dais(I know several cases). In that case the best defence would be some thing like: - he fell and broke his arm/got something in his eye dont ask me I was there staing still mr judge." CreationDate="2016-06-07T11:59:53.087" UserId="6344" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13622" PostId="6552" Score="0" Text="Foot play, balance and positioning. It is inherent to all martial arts but at least in destreza there is a different approach to them." CreationDate="2016-06-07T13:52:08.210" UserId="6344" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13623" PostId="6552" Score="0" Text="@kifli That doesn't mean there aren't benefits to one's unarmed combat skill in learning them. Even if all that means is being familiar with those techniques when facing them. The human body can only move in so many ways. The more one understands about those ways and limitations, the better they are at capitalizing on them. I don't need to hold an espada to take advantage of its teachings." CreationDate="2016-06-07T14:32:11.880" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13624" PostId="4365" Score="0" Text="**I am not lawyer, nor do I play one on TV.** In some locals, if you carry an item those purpose is to be used as a weapon, you will get on [the wrong side](https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q589.htm) of the law." CreationDate="2016-06-07T15:11:09.787" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13625" PostId="4365" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion	Obviously. Proving &quot;purpose&quot;, however, is difficult. E.g., if I'd get hassled about my EDC karambit, that's legit. If I got hassled about my EDC box cutter, sarong, or rolled-up magazine, I'd go to court and win. But the legality of anything was not at issue in the question." CreationDate="2016-06-07T15:25:18.090" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13626" PostId="4365" Score="0" Text="I am not lawyer, nor do I play one on TV but know enough to not second guess what is a winning strategy in court." CreationDate="2016-06-08T06:54:12.893" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13627" PostId="6556" Score="1" Text="This question is massively over broad thus voted to close it. It needs to be narrowed down to be answerable in anything shorter than a book." CreationDate="2016-06-09T07:24:15.323" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13629" PostId="6558" Score="1" Text="wow, this is a huuuge answer! This advice is great thank you. I am going to search for a Gymnastic gym. I hope i find a good one. :)" CreationDate="2016-06-09T07:45:24.833" UserId="7203" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13630" PostId="6561" Score="0" Text="Thanks Joshua, Are there any references for videos or pictures for practicing it?" CreationDate="2016-06-09T10:14:48.540" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13631" PostId="6561" Score="0" Text="And A little question concerning your answer - if you hit a boxing bag you use power and develop of it, but for rope or sheet you don't develop power. Am I wrong?" CreationDate="2016-06-09T10:17:10.243" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13632" PostId="6558" Score="0" Text="Glad I was helpful. Adult gymnastics classes are more rare than children's classes. They exist. Keep looking if you don't find one at the first gym you find. Oh, and if you don't find one, look into Parkour or &quot;tricking&quot;. But whatever you do, make sure there is proper equipment for your safety, always have a spotter, and never attempt anything unless you're ready. People have broken their necks doing this stuff, even on trampolines. Good luck!" CreationDate="2016-06-09T17:23:56.447" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13633" PostId="6561" Score="0" Text="there many possible for your question on what does that training strengthen, but I am sure of one thing: It may not strengthen your power but your speed, stamina, aim and concentration is getting more higher than your usual." CreationDate="2016-06-10T03:22:37.870" UserId="7208" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13635" PostId="6561" Score="1" Text="You will definitelly not develop power, but coordination and improve precision, you may want to see some training methods of an outstanding ukraininan boxer Lomachenko, wh is uising papers, bands, tennisballs etc. in his training - one ex. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpdiitdV-lw" CreationDate="2016-06-10T08:22:52.680" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13636" PostId="6561" Score="1" Text="found the one I wanted to post originally: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQlJnPATMw0" CreationDate="2016-06-10T08:29:13.513" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13637" PostId="6533" Score="0" Text="I am not your brother, but be that apparent -- I suppose that you have posed a question to which you'll only find the answer to by immediate means hence blocks and bricks are amply available." CreationDate="2016-06-10T08:36:00.573" UserId="7143" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13638" PostId="6533" Score="0" Text="Apologies, got my meme wrong: [Cool story bro](http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/cool-story-bro). Still, this does not answer the question." CreationDate="2016-06-10T08:45:01.033" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13640" PostId="6565" Score="0" Text="Please do not create new answer that add nothing. Edit your answer.  I would suggest you take the [tour](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour) to learn how this site works." CreationDate="2016-06-10T09:17:48.987" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13641" PostId="6533" Score="0" Text="Please do not create new answer that add nothing. Edit your answer.  I would suggest you take the [tour](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour) to learn how this site works." CreationDate="2016-06-10T09:17:52.207" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13642" PostId="6564" Score="0" Text="I haven't suffered any injuries. What you do ? This gloves have a hard plastic plates covered by plastic skin over it and have padding under. but I see few weakness: top finger could have a better protection and the interior part of arm are quite exposed. I got  a point once there luckily the Velcro strap stop it." CreationDate="2016-06-10T12:08:22.190" UserId="6344" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13643" PostId="6549" Score="0" Text="Just out of curiosity, what's the citation that he actually has a high degree of skill in classical kinjutsu, versus a dangerously delusional guy with a sword who was apparently willing to kill several people to break up a fist-fight that he wasn't even part of?" CreationDate="2016-06-10T22:51:15.277" UserId="698" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13644" PostId="6549" Score="0" Text="That's hilarious! Hehe. Uh, I heard a description of what he's studied before, and I've trained in classical kenjutsu before and can tell from his completely impromptu sword cut demonstration and his re-sheathing that he's quite skilled." CreationDate="2016-06-10T23:54:23.183" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13645" PostId="6570" Score="3" Text="Welcome to the site. I have edited your question a little. Could you let us know why the answers to [Is there value in using weighted clothing in martial arts training?](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/2297/82) did not help you?" CreationDate="2016-06-13T09:46:42.277" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13646" PostId="6570" Score="0" Text="No it helped me" CreationDate="2016-06-13T10:28:24.037" UserId="7224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13647" PostId="6570" Score="0" Text="In this case, this is a duplicate and will likely be closed as such." CreationDate="2016-06-13T10:29:18.647" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13648" PostId="6570" Score="0" Text="What is a duplicate" CreationDate="2016-06-13T10:30:26.903" UserId="7224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13650" PostId="6571" Score="0" Text="What do u mean by bag work with a partner" CreationDate="2016-06-13T16:09:01.620" UserId="7224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13651" PostId="6570" Score="0" Text="If the above answer helped you, then you need to edit this answer to make it different. As it stands, it is a duplicate." CreationDate="2016-06-13T21:05:55.547" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13652" PostId="6571" Score="0" Text="@user26453 I mean heavy bag workouts with a partner holding the bag. A partner can stabilize the bag so you can really drive your punches into it without worrying about it swinging out of range (which is really helpful if you are doing high intensity interval training with the bag). It might not seem like it, but there is a huge difference between hitting a free hanging heavy bag and hitting one held by a partner." CreationDate="2016-06-13T21:33:44.570" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13653" PostId="6571" Score="0" Text="Thanx but i am not having any bag but i am having a kicking pad will it help" CreationDate="2016-06-14T06:06:12.493" UserId="7224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13655" PostId="6564" Score="0" Text="With the Red Dragon gloves I have received blows that have hurt the top of my fingers, but nothing more serious than a bit of pain. We've had similar but more bloody incidents with both the SPES heavy gloves and a pair of metal gauntlets." CreationDate="2016-06-14T11:45:07.867" UserId="3214" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13656" PostId="6571" Score="0" Text="@user26453 It might help some, but not in the way a heavy bag does. A kicking pad doesn't have the mass or resistance of a heavy bag, nor will it protect your training partner as effectively in a high intensity punching routine." CreationDate="2016-06-14T13:09:57.507" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13657" PostId="6573" Score="0" Text="Slugster i am a student of karate and my style is shito ryu, in my style we don't harm our oponents and we only do touch back punches so can u tell me which is the main part of our punch and how can we improve our punches because i am fan of karate" CreationDate="2016-06-14T14:35:13.377" UserId="7224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13662" PostId="6549" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand - Not really disputing per se, but about all I've studied is basic cuts and enough freestyle for creative weapons competitions (Entry level) and I could manage those twirls and resheathes well enough to display the same skill set. Kairo is not his real name, and on the Tempe Light Rail a sword or other long weapon would be among my last choices of weapon. Even in the most open spaces, you're limited to short cuts and stabs as about your only offense." CreationDate="2016-06-14T21:31:50.077" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13664" PostId="6572" Score="2" Text="I have used these sorts of bands. Mainly in wrestling by wrapping it around a fence and using it for fast pull downs many times over. I played with it in striking and found the anatomical dynamics did not work at all for me." CreationDate="2016-06-14T21:39:41.083" UserId="7040" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13665" PostId="6549" Score="1" Text="@SteveWeigand - Upon further digging, something is fishy. He claims that &quot;Master Hiko&quot; trained him up and he took &quot;Seijuro&quot; as an honorific, but the only &quot;Master Hiko&quot; I can find is in the comic hentai &quot;Rurouni Kenshin&quot;. And if his sword's name is misspelled by the media by one letter, it's named after a Japanese pop star - Rei Inoue." CreationDate="2016-06-14T21:45:17.513" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13666" PostId="6573" Score="0" Text="That is a whole new question and way too involved to discuss in comments. Disregarding any philosophical differences we may have about &quot;harming our opponents&quot; and definitions of a &quot;touch back punch&quot;, focus is still the key part of the punch. You can deliver different amounts of kinetic energy - &quot;focus&quot; is the culmination of energy and tension (and a resistance band is not going to help train focus)." CreationDate="2016-06-15T02:29:30.497" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13668" PostId="6572" Score="0" Text="Thank you. The &quot;believe&quot; made me think that you were guessing..." CreationDate="2016-06-15T07:33:40.473" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13669" PostId="6572" Score="1" Text="No problem. I like to be scientific &amp; what works for me is not a large sample  set hence belief. I have seen these types of bands help others in grappling especially when loaded with 2 or 3 to make them really hard to snap down." CreationDate="2016-06-15T08:27:26.477" UserId="7040" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13671" PostId="6576" Score="3" Text="Your current question is really unclear: What martial art is this about? What type of kicks are you doing? In addition, anecdotal evidence is worthless." CreationDate="2016-06-15T08:41:32.130" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13672" PostId="6576" Score="1" Text="Thanks. Well, this isn't about one particular martial art, but more about the human body, and how would the force of the kick damage the leg of the kicker." CreationDate="2016-06-15T08:47:35.020" UserId="7229" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13673" PostId="6576" Score="0" Text="Anecdotal evidence is not evidence, but a way for me to show what worries me. Perhaps I put it in a wrong way" CreationDate="2016-06-15T08:49:00.947" UserId="7229" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13675" PostId="6571" Score="0" Text="Zen i am not having a heavy punching bag but i have thick pillows in my home can they help me in improving my punch power" CreationDate="2016-06-15T10:20:44.837" UserId="7224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13676" PostId="6577" Score="0" Text="But, even if I pull my toes back, all the opponent has to do is go a few centimeters forward, even if unintentionally, and my toes would hit him. It would hurt him more if it lands in the right area, but no doubt I'll take damage too, right?" CreationDate="2016-06-15T10:53:04.817" UserId="7229" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13677" PostId="6578" Score="0" Text="So I'm guessing my next research would be the best way of conditioning my bones. But, tell me this, if I keep training my muscles and kicking my punching bag, wouldn't that be enough? Wiki says that the more pressure you apply, the more the bone will adapt (I can't mark 2 answers, but thank you very much)" CreationDate="2016-06-15T10:58:18.490" UserId="7229" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13678" PostId="6577" Score="0" Text="It will help if you re-visit the kick - you kick on a 45 degree angle -&gt; but the direction of the kick is parallel to the direction you face. so the kick travels forward and your foot should be fine over several inches (you can adjust your foot backwards as well).&#xA;In shoes the foot position is harder to make -&gt; but the shoes themselves will offer some support (and extra weight). My adult students have to break with this technique for blue belt - we have very few injuries even when they get their distance wrong" CreationDate="2016-06-15T11:28:41.577" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13679" PostId="6577" Score="1" Text="Honestly, a big confusion was caused to me when I saw taekwondo martial artists on YouTube kick with the tip of their toes and it seemed extremely unfitting for actual combat. your answer cleared that away. I'll try kicking with the ball of the feet when I get the chance (You hit the spot with the shoes part more than you know lol), and get it what I deem perfect, before I argue further. thank you" CreationDate="2016-06-15T12:09:07.713" UserId="7229" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13680" PostId="6571" Score="0" Text="@user26453 I honestly can't answer your question without knowing what the pillows you are talking about are like, but they almost certainly are going to be more like a kick pad than a heavy bag. While I think a heavy bag is an invaluable training tool, there are other ways to improve your punching power.  Like I mentioned in my original answer, Clap Pushups (and similar plyometric exercises) can increase speed, power, and reaction time. Also, regularly practicing on using proper posture, alignment, and delivery for your punches means the difference between an optimal impact and a wasted effort" CreationDate="2016-06-15T14:06:14.723" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13681" PostId="6576" Score="0" Text="@holyeyeolo, when you say &quot;back of the feet&quot;, do you mean the part where your shoe laces are?" CreationDate="2016-06-15T16:24:25.517" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13685" PostId="6576" Score="0" Text="Yes, that's what I thought I meant, but I guess it's the tip of the toes" CreationDate="2016-06-15T18:22:33.123" UserId="7229" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13686" PostId="6578" Score="0" Text="Yes conditioning comes with the bag. Especially a heavy one. It is a last resort but if you dont have, when you need it you will wish you had it. The focus in training should be on getting it right which is all about timing, speed, non telegraphing, accuracy, coordination and power. Not to condition because that is a by product of doing 100s to 1000s of kicks." CreationDate="2016-06-15T20:59:08.887" UserId="7040" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13687" PostId="5572" Score="0" Text="there was a very interesting video I've watch on youtube about a real life modern blacksmith who discuss &quot;katana&quot; and swordmaking and he explain that &quot;traditional katana&quot; are worthless. They are viewed as effective only because of cinema and general culture. You had to train yourself years to be able to use one, because it would break anytime you swing and hit the wrong way. He refers to swingning a katana as fishing. Regular iron use in mediaval sword was cheaper, stronger. The &quot;folding&quot; technique makes it barely usable, but would scrap any iron." CreationDate="2016-06-15T21:30:40.973" UserId="1526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13690" PostId="6545" Score="2" Text="I don't think is possible teach it in a forum." CreationDate="2016-06-16T23:21:13.693" UserId="5818" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13692" PostId="6581" Score="1" Text="This question has many problems. First, it is too broad because you have not defined what you are not doing well. Second, doing better is highly subjective and dependent on your goals (not given), your organisation (not given), and your rank (not given). Lastly, your style of writing does not make it easy to understand what you want. I hope you edit your question to make it easier to read and clearer as I think there is a good question in there, somewhere." CreationDate="2016-06-17T08:32:18.483" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13693" PostId="6581" Score="0" Text="Now its ok sadarthion." CreationDate="2016-06-17T08:53:23.223" UserId="7224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13694" PostId="6581" Score="0" Text="Plz answer my question sardathrion" CreationDate="2016-06-17T08:54:06.700" UserId="7224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13695" PostId="6581" Score="1" Text="I would suggest you take the [tour](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour) to understand how this site works. Your questions is still unclear and rambling." CreationDate="2016-06-17T09:15:42.040" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13696" PostId="6581" Score="0" Text="The only answer I can give you is (the unhelpful) [git gud](http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/git-gud) because that is what you need. Unless you narrow down your question and make it clearer, that is the only answer." CreationDate="2016-06-17T09:17:45.720" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13697" PostId="6581" Score="0" Text="I am tired now i have given all the possible details that i can give i dont know what is wrong with my question.i only asked to give advices on what should we do probably before a kumite and what should we do to stay calm and fearless to face the fight" CreationDate="2016-06-17T10:05:23.253" UserId="7224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13698" PostId="6581" Score="0" Text="Then you have two questions: &quot;What should we do probably before a kumite&quot; and &quot;What should we do to stay calm&quot;. Both are interesting questions and I urge you to ask them. One of those (say the first one), could be an edit of this one. However, since you are tired, I would suggest waiting till you rest before doing so." CreationDate="2016-06-17T10:19:53.223" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13699" PostId="6581" Score="0" Text="Now if u know my question than answer." CreationDate="2016-06-17T10:48:30.757" UserId="7224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13700" PostId="6581" Score="0" Text="Plz tell me only 1 and a half hours left" CreationDate="2016-06-17T10:51:01.557" UserId="7224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13701" PostId="6581" Score="0" Text="[Git gud](http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/git-gud)" CreationDate="2016-06-17T11:37:03.960" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13702" PostId="6581" Score="2" Text="No one can help you in the time frame you've given.  4 hours isn't enough time to change your training or conditioning.  The only thing people could tell you would be based on how you already move &amp; your strengths and weaknesses - which is something only your teacher, coach, or fellow students would know.  Go do your fight, get video, come back with questions on why things worked, or didn't work for you, and get advice for your next round of training." CreationDate="2016-06-17T15:53:00.953" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13703" PostId="6583" Score="0" Text="This was the answer that i needed and thank u very i wuold remember your advice in my whole life thanx tony.my karate sensei has chosen me for  a tournament by seeing my skills" CreationDate="2016-06-17T15:53:38.537" UserId="7224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13705" PostId="6581" Score="0" Text="I only asked for giving advice on  how can i be fearless and stay calm before kumite and the answer i have got from tony" CreationDate="2016-06-17T15:59:02.643" UserId="7224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13706" PostId="6583" Score="0" Text="Tony can u tell me how can i understand my opponent" CreationDate="2016-06-17T16:02:35.523" UserId="7224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13707" PostId="6545" Score="0" Text="I'm still not clear what position is described here." CreationDate="2016-06-17T16:14:34.857" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13708" PostId="6583" Score="0" Text="@user26453 You're welcome.  Understanding your opponent is a huge question - too big to really answer in comments.  Still, a few thoughts: it requires experience, observation and careful analysis.  Long term, just do your best against lots of different opponents - you should naturally improve.  You have to fight &quot;better&quot; opponents sometimes and learn as much as you can each time, but even fighting people you can already dominate - vary your fighting style so you learn more, or set yourself challenges like keeping them off-balance with low kicks, or getting elbow strikes through their guard." CreationDate="2016-06-17T22:44:06.820" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13709" PostId="6583" Score="0" Text="During kumite - think about what they're expecting and comfortable with... Do they wait for you to attack or charge forwards? Do they attack once or in a short flurry then retreat, or stay in close for a while?  Do they focus on punching and forget to kick, or vice versa?  Do they try to block everything well, or are they trying to do the minimum - even wearing a few hits - while focused on getting a big counter-attack in?  Do they try to keep you at a distance?  Try to force them into a type, pace/tempo, range of fighting they're not used to, comfortable with or good at." CreationDate="2016-06-17T22:52:43.507" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13710" PostId="6583" Score="0" Text="Tony what would i do if my opponent waits for me to attack.will i go to attack him?" CreationDate="2016-06-18T03:46:53.137" UserId="7224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13711" PostId="6583" Score="0" Text="@user26453 It depends - he might be doing that because he's nervous, in which case you probably should attack, but might want to feint a bit first to see if he overreacts and leaves himself more vulnerable; or he might be really good defending or counter-attacking, in which case take your time, see if he gets impatient.  If you've a reach advantage, try patiently to get some hits in from the edge of his range - after you've &quot;scored&quot; he'll then have to try to go on the offensive to even up the fight, and you'll have him fighting in a way he's less comfortable with." CreationDate="2016-06-18T08:47:36.877" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13712" PostId="2895" Score="1" Text="I would like to add that while it might *help* to lift strongly, it should only be needed for o-goshi if the center of gravity of your opponent hasn't been moved slightly *above and in front* of your own by *kuzushi* and *tsukuri*. This is, from a competitioner's point of view, rare enough that one might conclude that strong lifting *has to be* part of the throw. From a technical point of view, the perfect technique remains the one where all you would have to 'lift' are the legs, just like with the morote-seoi-nage you describe. Other hip throws have other principles, though." CreationDate="2016-06-18T19:32:51.407" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13714" PostId="6584" Score="1" Text="My use and understanding is that SLX puts guardiero's bottom/inside foot hooking the thigh of the same leg as the guardiero's outside/hip-blocking foot. Isn't the opposite-thigh hook reserved for when the sweep has been executed and the guardiero is preventing a stand-up?" CreationDate="2016-06-19T06:21:26.443" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13716" PostId="6586" Score="2" Text="If you are in a street fight and your opponent backs up for distance, is there a reason you can't run away?  If it's not a competition or sport, why would you hang around to keep fighting this person?" CreationDate="2016-06-19T16:00:47.497" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13717" PostId="6586" Score="0" Text="Thanks, in street fight there are situations you can't run away and must fight. In sports, if someone from Taekwondo joins group of other styles." CreationDate="2016-06-19T16:03:21.823" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13718" PostId="6586" Score="2" Text="In street fights, there's usually not a lot of backing up, jabbing/long kicks, and keeping distance, at least if it's an assault.  What you are describing is inconsistent with a street attack and more in line with two people choosing to fight in the street... usually over ego." CreationDate="2016-06-19T16:10:08.313" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13719" PostId="6586" Score="0" Text="Thanks. The most important issue here is how to win such a fight/ situation. What is the best strategy? Is there a way to win him when he throw punches (He is not a good boxer)?" CreationDate="2016-06-19T16:31:48.253" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13720" PostId="6584" Score="0" Text="That is a good use, but it's not the only one. If the opponent is standing then inside foot usually hooks the near thigh, but the far thigh can be hooked to [stop a backstep pass](https://youtu.be/cSi2ESHg1w0?t=2m56s). On the other hand, if the opponent is on his far knee you can use your shin to stop a pass to mount, as [advised by Marcelo](https://youtu.be/Rux8Qf9eskE?t=54s)." CreationDate="2016-06-20T09:19:31.610" UserId="3234" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13721" PostId="6583" Score="0" Text="what do you mean by that if the opponent overreacts and leaves himself more vulnerable and what do u mean by that try patiently to get some hits in from the edge of his range" CreationDate="2016-06-20T10:43:53.530" UserId="7224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13722" PostId="6584" Score="1" Text="I guess my current impression is that orthodox SLX is both of my legs on one of my opponent's legs with me facing them, whereas orthodox AG is my chest facing outwards, one leg reaping and the other hooking under the far leg. While both allow for tremendous variation and leaving the position for specific reasons, those seem to be the &quot;base&quot; of each game/position. That would make them very similar but not identical. It's almost like both ashi-garami and single-leg x-guard are instantiations of a more fundamental conceptual position." CreationDate="2016-06-20T14:12:46.273" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13723" PostId="6588" Score="0" Text="Who has voted against me and what i have done wrong" CreationDate="2016-06-20T17:05:30.273" UserId="7224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13724" PostId="6588" Score="0" Text="What is wrong with my answer" CreationDate="2016-06-20T17:05:48.590" UserId="7224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13725" PostId="6584" Score="0" Text="Answer updated in order to address your comments. Thank you for being maieutic." CreationDate="2016-06-20T18:26:38.230" UserId="3234" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13726" PostId="6584" Score="0" Text="Thanks for bringing the knowledge (and links! wow!) necessary to have this level of discussion. These details are almost all new to me, as is my word of the day, 'maieutic'!" CreationDate="2016-06-20T19:37:45.123" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13727" PostId="6583" Score="0" Text="Tony plz answer my question" CreationDate="2016-06-21T14:42:40.483" UserId="7224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13728" PostId="6583" Score="0" Text="@user26453 re &quot;opponent overreacts&quot; - say you've been able to get punches through to your opponent's head a couple times - the opponent may be very wary and keeping their guard high, so you could feint (i.e. fake) another punch to the head, but instead watching to see if and where they leave themselves vulnerable (e.g. perhaps to a kick, or a punch delivered a moment later)." CreationDate="2016-06-21T15:14:55.600" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13729" PostId="6583" Score="0" Text="re &quot;patiently get hits in from the edge of his range&quot; - if you're taller and your opponent's waiting for you to attack aggressively, hoping to counter-attacker, but not wanting to have to close the gap (i.e. they want you coming towards and attacking them without having to themselves initiate getting close enough to hit you), then you have a huge advantage - you can occupy the distance at the edge of your own range - where you can hit them, but they can't hit you.  Just by moving around at that distance, feinting, throwing some exploratory attacks, you can pick your time to really attack." CreationDate="2016-06-21T15:18:11.597" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13730" PostId="6583" Score="0" Text="You can read more about fighting shorter opponents [here](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/5805/1618).  Contrasting with that, if you're the shorter fighter, you should generally be initiating action to get and stay close enough to hit." CreationDate="2016-06-21T15:20:33.380" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13731" PostId="6583" Score="0" Text="More generally, there are a huge number of factors and strategies in kumite - way too many to list in an answer on this forum.  You have to accept that experience, careful thought, a good instructor and school will eventually give you lots of insights, and with hard work you'll build up and be able to apply this kind of knowledge." CreationDate="2016-06-21T15:22:02.653" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13732" PostId="6589" Score="2" Text="Can you elaborate on how your style uses Qi Gong to train to break the bricks? :) I'll give you fair warning that a lot of us are skeptics here, but we're willing to listen if you can elaborate, at least." CreationDate="2016-06-22T04:23:24.807" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13733" PostId="6494" Score="1" Text="@Steve Weigand fantastic answer, very informative." CreationDate="2016-06-22T08:32:37.837" UserId="5993" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13739" PostId="6591" Score="2" Text="*&quot;Clearly, if one does not have the level for a grading, one should not be put forward to grade.&quot;* - a good instructor efficiently helps a student learn - it's entirely possible that such an instructor correctly assesses that what a student needs to learn can most effectively be taught by their trying a grading they might not be able to pass.  That can yield technical insights, self-awareness or perspective, renewed focus or determination, acceptance of actual limitations.  Even the OPs awareness of anxiety and reduced performance has lead to a desire to learn and improve.  Kind of Zen / Chan." CreationDate="2016-06-23T15:54:45.383" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13740" PostId="6545" Score="1" Text="My personal favorite is to...&quot;pluck the fruit growing from the fork of the tree&quot; when in that position." CreationDate="2016-06-23T18:10:09.880" UserId="6083" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13741" PostId="6545" Score="0" Text="@michael do you mean reaching out to squeeze his balls?" CreationDate="2016-06-23T20:49:24.450" UserId="4367" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13742" PostId="6591" Score="2" Text="@TonyD: You do make a very good point. I view competition whether informal or formal as a better way to test that one can perform well under stress. I view gradings as mostly technical demonstrations appropriate to one's grade. Hum, not sure if I should edit the answer or not as this is a side point to the question. Suggestions?" CreationDate="2016-06-24T06:35:00.537" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13743" PostId="6591" Score="0" Text="&quot;Train like you fight, fight like you train&quot; - Fantastic piece of advice, and i have and  will carry this on during my training.  @Sardathrion , TonyD - we are assessed during class on an on-going basis, - the grading’s are hard, but no one has failed. We are given pointed on items which could be improved, which again we work on." CreationDate="2016-06-24T10:05:06.667" UserId="5993" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13746" PostId="6597" Score="1" Text="I can relate a lot to your dilemma.  I'm still recovering from the effects of having been bedridden with cancer and chemotherapy over a year, so my fitness is shot to hell.  However, I understand for self defense, the option to do pain/harm is a significant tool in protecting yourself." CreationDate="2016-06-24T19:45:55.180" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13747" PostId="6545" Score="1" Text="More of a grab, twist and pull, than a squeeze; but yeah :) Obviously this is not something to do in a non self-defense situation, but bullying was specifically mentioned so that would be my advice. a swift punch works pretty well too." CreationDate="2016-06-25T00:29:13.690" UserId="6083" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13748" PostId="6586" Score="1" Text="Although I agree heavily with Bankuei that running away seems like the only winning move; If you have no other options I would advise using a leg-catch take down and moving to the ground where TKD is weaker." CreationDate="2016-06-25T00:36:44.600" UserId="6083" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13749" PostId="6591" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion: competitions do provide good feedback for the styles/schools that have them, and the range of things competed in, but progress against a wider curriculum isn't always reflected in the grading results (e.g. some schools don't have kata competitions, in kumite you don't get feedback on the full range of techniques expected of your grade if you don't use them - perhaps because you're not yet good at them).  In Kyokushin, then 10-man kumite for black belt is not just a technical demonstration, but also proves you've done the fitness and conditioning work.  Could spin off a new Q...?" CreationDate="2016-06-25T04:27:19.100" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13750" PostId="6591" Score="1" Text="@chris: that's fair too - what Sardathrion and I are discussing is very much an edge case, for students who need a jolt past some plateau where they have the necessary potential but perhaps not the insight or focus.  A lot depends on the psychological expectations around &quot;failure&quot; in the culture and school too - for example, in Japan failing a test is not seen as something particularly unusual, and for many professions it's normal that people had to try several times to get accepted, or for each certification." CreationDate="2016-06-25T04:32:10.593" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13752" PostId="6549" Score="2" Text="Yeah, in addition to the fishy naming that indicates &quot;fanboy&quot; more than &quot;master&quot;, also there are some web reports that he's been in some trouble with the police before -- assault charges (dropped) and a couple of restraining orders. It is possible that he's not a very good example for arguing that one should be allowed to carry bladed weapons." CreationDate="2016-06-26T00:38:36.267" UserId="698" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13754" PostId="6589" Score="0" Text="@Miguel Péres: Can you please elaborate how performing Qi Gong can help?" CreationDate="2016-06-26T10:42:53.943" UserId="5935" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13758" PostId="6558" Score="1" Text="Whatever you do, don't let an untrained person spot you. I've seen and had a lot of bad injuries from self trained flippers trying to spot others." CreationDate="2016-06-27T02:14:33.597" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13759" PostId="6600" Score="1" Text="Should this go to [Japanese.se](http://japanese.stackexchange.com/) instead?" CreationDate="2016-06-27T06:57:13.963" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13760" PostId="6600" Score="1" Text="-1 for doing no [prior research whatsoever](http://www.karatebyjesse.com/meaning-oss-osu-japanese/)." CreationDate="2016-06-27T06:59:28.570" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13763" PostId="6591" Score="0" Text="@TonyD: More questions are always welcome here. We need more to be viable." CreationDate="2016-06-27T08:39:55.973" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13765" PostId="6600" Score="1" Text="The link from @Sardathrion is exactly what I would have mentioned too. Maybe it could be left as an exercise for zr to answer his own question?" CreationDate="2016-06-27T12:09:05.387" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13766" PostId="6595" Score="5" Text="Fundamentally you defend yourself by applying pain and/or disablement to your opponent. The more practiced you are the more exactly you can apply just the right amount of pain or disablement. &quot;Self defense&quot; incorporates this along with other philosophies, like how to keep safe, how to spot hazards, etc." CreationDate="2016-06-27T12:13:11.093" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13767" PostId="6600" Score="0" Text="This has been bugging me... [This is how to pronounce osu](http://forvo.com/word/osu_%28%E6%8A%BC%E3%81%99%29/)." CreationDate="2016-06-27T12:29:00.623" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13768" PostId="6595" Score="0" Text="@slugster: The threat of pain can be much more efficient than the ability to inflict pain..." CreationDate="2016-06-27T12:44:05.507" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13769" PostId="6604" Score="5" Text="Instructors and clubs are much more important than styles. As it stands, we know nothing of any of the schools you mention so any answer will be highly opinionated. In addition, there are dozens of styles and organisations of karate so training in one might or might not help training in another." CreationDate="2016-06-27T14:13:02.690" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13770" PostId="6604" Score="3" Text="&quot;Show off some moves?&quot; - do you plan on being a performing chimp? Spin kick for a doughnut?" CreationDate="2016-06-27T21:30:30.083" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13773" PostId="2795" Score="0" Text="I believe the inquirer was looking for some references and factual information regarding the legality of, not consequential actions to said conflict, but the state of being a high ranking martial artist, in regards to the law." CreationDate="2016-06-29T05:09:23.750" UserId="1655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13774" PostId="2798" Score="0" Text="While very true, the likely exploitation due to any formal training, this doens't really fit the inquiry.  No -1, but no +1 due to the rather unhelpful answer." CreationDate="2016-06-29T05:13:18.347" UserId="1655" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13776" PostId="6458" Score="0" Text="This answer is too comprehensive for me to add a second, the one thing that I would add is a broader concept of learning to apply 'angles' in combat. Changing ones line of attack to come in to the opponent from an angle rather then from straight ahead often opens up possibilities for bypassing the defense (I have found this to apply via multiple arts that I have practiced)" CreationDate="2016-06-29T18:27:20.473" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13779" PostId="6613" Score="0" Text="The focus of the question is about *arthritis* within the context of martial arts. Could you focus your answer on that? In addition, hypothetical musing are irrelevant: we are looking for facts and experiences of training with *arthritis*." CreationDate="2016-06-30T06:48:11.603" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13781" PostId="6611" Score="0" Text="All Aikido techniques involving locks and pin inflicting pain (nice pain, but still pain) as a side or primary effect. For example. [kote gaeshi, a supinating wrist twist](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wristlock#Supinating) was meant to shatter the wrist. Even in a safe training environment, pain is an unavoidable side effect even for someone familiar with an escape. For someone untrained, a broken wrist is likely." CreationDate="2016-06-30T06:54:11.350" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13782" PostId="6613" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion: Their second sentence seems to imply that they *are* sharing their experience with arthritis and aikido. :)" CreationDate="2016-06-30T19:49:54.377" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13783" PostId="6613" Score="0" Text="more so sharing my experience with training in my current style which led to  knee and back issues, thus causing me to look into Aikido and see that it might be a viable option. OP mentioned intense physical activity could potentially cause a flare up. My observations of an Aikido class left an impression that it is less intense. He also stated he was looking for specific recommendations( Judo, karate etc) Which is why I suggested Aikido" CreationDate="2016-06-30T20:31:08.707" UserId="7257" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13784" PostId="6613" Score="1" Text="There is no how,  just that something which might be suitable happened in an unknown style with an unknown teacher.  More information is needed." CreationDate="2016-06-30T20:42:32.807" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13787" PostId="6595" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion yes, &quot;walk softly and carry a big stick&quot;, but the OP mentions sub-optimal physical fitness, which (if it means a less imposing physical presentation) *typically* makes any unarmed threat less potent." CreationDate="2016-07-01T17:10:42.903" UserId="7266" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13788" PostId="6595" Score="0" Text="@tniles09: You do not need to be physically fit to carry a concealed firearm or to have freinds that do or to have freinds that would make any attackers' live a living hell for the few hours they have left of life." CreationDate="2016-07-01T18:30:13.887" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13789" PostId="6616" Score="1" Text="You won't gain enough muscle in a couple of months to have any physical impact on speed, particularly if you also do mobility drills." CreationDate="2016-07-03T21:57:46.470" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13792" PostId="6620" Score="1" Text="I would remove your post script as it is irrelevant to this question. However, I urge you to expend on it to make it into a fine question." CreationDate="2016-07-04T07:58:24.750" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13793" PostId="6620" Score="0" Text="Good idea. Thank you, kind Internet stranger." CreationDate="2016-07-04T08:00:50.847" UserId="2024" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13794" PostId="6619" Score="1" Text="Thank's Philip, you conviced me. I'm going to train on the beach early the morning before tourists invade and regard us as crazzy people ;)" CreationDate="2016-07-04T09:30:07.907" UserId="7114" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13795" PostId="5888" Score="0" Text="This is the best solution which I've used for decades of martial arts and 8 years in the Army." CreationDate="2016-07-05T15:55:04.920" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13796" PostId="6621" Score="0" Text="Might be helpful to explain a &quot;90 degree stabbing motion&quot;." CreationDate="2016-07-05T16:03:44.687" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13797" PostId="26" Score="0" Text="Well, I'm a mother and my son's gi went to grandma who looked lost and so here we are in the Internet wishing the good Lord gifted us with patchwork skills and wondering in vain what to do with the plastic on the back of the patch. Toss it or don't toss it?" CreationDate="2016-07-04T00:18:21.553" UserDisplayName="user7272" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13798" PostId="5983" Score="1" Text="Brazilian here, with friends fanatic for Luta Livre. As far as they have told me, Luta Livre (freestyle fighting) is just the name of a Catch Wrestling team.&#xA;&#xA;Luta Livre Esportiva (sports freestyle fighting) is an catch wrestling federation." CreationDate="2016-07-06T19:57:27.250" UserId="7279" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13799" PostId="6604" Score="0" Text="Obligatory [Boot to the head](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMIfAmQYig8) link regarding &quot;show off some moves.&quot;" CreationDate="2016-07-07T02:02:04.210" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13802" PostId="240" Score="1" Text="Is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upoYtPS_5QQ the YouTube link you're referring to?" CreationDate="2016-07-07T11:46:38.633" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13807" PostId="4403" Score="0" Text="**Do not answer in comments.**" CreationDate="2016-07-08T08:07:11.080" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13808" PostId="6624" Score="0" Text="All Aikido techniques involving locks and pin inflicting pain (nice pain, but still pain) as a side or primary effect. For example. [kote gaeshi, a supinating wrist twist](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wristlock#Supinating)  was meant to shatter the wrist. Even in a safe training environment, pain is an unavoidable side effect even for someone familiar with an escape. For someone untrained, a broken wrist is likely." CreationDate="2016-07-08T10:50:53.603" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13809" PostId="4403" Score="0" Text="Are you replying to a comment from 2 years ago?" CreationDate="2016-07-09T05:23:56.043" UserId="3239" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13813" PostId="6630" Score="0" Text="The main point is mentioned in the quote in @DaveLiepmann 's answer: It is about the activity of the attacking leg. The rotation around the leg effectively happens in O Soto Gari as well, but if you only **block** instead of kari/barai, the rotation over the blocking body part is much more accentuated as it is the active part of the throw, not just a causal outcome of it." CreationDate="2016-07-11T12:47:04.287" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13814" PostId="2719" Score="3" Text="As a nidan I second that. If the leg only blocks, *the active part* of the throw as its emphasis is rotating the partner around it (by drawing a wheel with his (upper) body, guruma), whereas gari makes clear that the active part/emphasis of the throw is in reaping a weighted leg. Being able to understand and demonstrate differences like these is what dan grading systems are all about." CreationDate="2016-07-11T14:25:33.603" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13817" PostId="6632" Score="0" Text="Charlie, do we need a mod to help you group your accounts together?" CreationDate="2016-07-12T11:55:25.970" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13819" PostId="6629" Score="2" Text="@mattm (and corradoCane): That's why outside and sometimes even inside judo, the full name hiza ude hishigi gatame is more useful - the other technique's full name is hiza ashi hishigi gatame, like included in katame no kata and forbidden in competitions." CreationDate="2016-07-12T12:26:15.417" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13820" PostId="6633" Score="0" Text="Why do people do it then?" CreationDate="2016-07-12T14:07:46.113" UserId="7296" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13821" PostId="6632" Score="0" Text="What are you talking about" CreationDate="2016-07-12T14:08:14.003" UserId="7296" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13822" PostId="6633" Score="0" Text="Because it CAN have an advantage, but unless you're at the very top both athletically and in terms of talent, the potential benefit you could achieve from doing so does not outweigh the potential bad consequences. It's like switching southpaw from orthodox; yes it looks fancy, and yes it can work well. But as a beginner/novice, it'll just hinder your progress and doesn't work in your favor at all." CreationDate="2016-07-12T14:13:55.660" UserId="6601" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13823" PostId="6634" Score="2" Text="That doesn't help me at all. It doesn't answer the question." CreationDate="2016-07-12T14:53:55.033" UserId="57" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13824" PostId="6632" Score="2" Text="These other accounts also look like you, both in user name and type of question. &#xA;http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/users/6846/charlie http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/users/6587/charlie" CreationDate="2016-07-12T15:21:03.893" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13828" PostId="6632" Score="0" Text="Pretty sure that's the same account" CreationDate="2016-07-12T19:49:23.490" UserId="7296" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13829" PostId="6633" Score="0" Text="What's the advantage" CreationDate="2016-07-12T19:49:34.317" UserId="7296" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13832" PostId="6632" Score="1" Text="You can request a merge of user accounts by [contacting Stack Exchange](http://stackoverflow.com/contact). Select &quot;I need to merge user profiles&quot; and enter your email and the two profile links and submit the information." CreationDate="2016-07-13T03:06:42.300" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13834" PostId="6633" Score="0" Text="Slick head movement and changing the distance to your opponent. But it's nullified if you don't have speed/reaction to utilize it at all. If you look at Floyd, he will roll with the punches that way, making punches hit less hard." CreationDate="2016-07-13T09:35:11.277" UserId="6601" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13835" PostId="6632" Score="0" Text="Charlie, I don't know if you've done it yet but I've just filed a request to merge these accounts - this was before I saw Matt's comment. It should be actioned in a day or two - the two older accounts will be merged with this one." CreationDate="2016-07-13T13:11:33.910" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13836" PostId="6632" Score="0" Text="I'm sure they're all the same account but whatever, as long as it isn't a problem" CreationDate="2016-07-14T01:26:50.940" UserId="7296" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13837" PostId="6633" Score="0" Text="Sorry, I don't quite understand" CreationDate="2016-07-14T01:27:12.223" UserId="7296" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13838" PostId="6633" Score="0" Text="Are you saying that leaning/ ducking gives you those advantages? I'm confused how and how they're such big advantages" CreationDate="2016-07-14T01:27:54.103" UserId="7296" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13839" PostId="6633" Score="0" Text="It can, if you are as fast as Mayweather or the like, meaning, most people will only have disadvantages for doing this. Which is why trainers discourage it." CreationDate="2016-07-14T13:18:13.977" UserId="6601" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13840" PostId="6633" Score="0" Text="So most boxers who do it, probably shouldn't I guess" CreationDate="2016-07-14T18:00:39.233" UserId="7296" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13841" PostId="2265" Score="2" Text="@MilanSxD: Tell me then, why do women in Japan often have to wear a white stripe on their (black) belts?" CreationDate="2016-07-14T21:32:42.537" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13844" PostId="2348" Score="0" Text="A point of interest I believe BJJ has grown in popularity since this question was asked, at least in Australia." CreationDate="2016-07-16T22:44:27.527" UserDisplayName="user6827" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13846" PostId="2837" Score="0" Text="I can't agree with &quot;Dogs instinctively understand the gesture&quot;. They may have learned the response to fear something being thrown at them but domestic dogs are more likely in many countries to have learned that as a play response - a ball is about to be thrown FOR them." CreationDate="2016-07-17T15:33:20.633" UserId="179" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13847" PostId="6643" Score="1" Text="Regarding &quot;quick to learn&quot;, are you planning on training for some months (how many?), then stopping? Or are you planning on training over a long time period, but with not many hours?" CreationDate="2016-07-17T16:13:52.353" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13848" PostId="6643" Score="0" Text="@mattm I want to learn it for around 1 year and then practice at my own. I can spend 4-5 hours on weekend and 1-2 hours on weekdays (_not necessarily everday_)." CreationDate="2016-07-17T16:18:54.627" UserId="5903" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13849" PostId="6645" Score="0" Text="Thanks. The attraction of a selfie stick is it collapses to a discreet, carryable item. You have prompted me to think more about locking mechanisms and that some twist-locks may lock solidly enough to withstand a thrusting action." CreationDate="2016-07-18T04:54:39.443" UserId="179" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13850" PostId="6644" Score="0" Text="your suggestion is great Polonski. But if would be great if you suggest these 5 options...:D" CreationDate="2016-07-18T05:29:12.413" UserId="5903" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13852" PostId="6643" Score="1" Text="Possible duplicate of [Which martial arts focus on self defense?](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/159/which-martial-arts-focus-on-self-defense) and [How to select the right Aikido dojo](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/80/how-to-select-the-right-aikido-dojo)." CreationDate="2016-07-18T06:42:51.490" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13853" PostId="6644" Score="0" Text="I'd go with 1. Judo 2. Wing Chun 3. Krav Maga 4. MMA 5. Bujinkan." CreationDate="2016-07-18T06:45:18.177" UserId="1985" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13859" PostId="6642" Score="0" Text="Not an actual answer, but I highly recommend viewing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeiHCBQCRGk" CreationDate="2016-07-18T16:37:51.667" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13860" PostId="6647" Score="2" Text="I think he meant that he actually wants a selfie stick for selfie-related activities, but that if he had to choose one, he'd like one that can double as an impromptu weapon if needed." CreationDate="2016-07-18T21:02:54.397" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13861" PostId="6647" Score="0" Text="@Dungarth oh, my bad." CreationDate="2016-07-18T21:12:33.450" UserId="7069" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13862" PostId="6647" Score="0" Text="This does not answer the question." CreationDate="2016-07-19T07:10:15.430" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13863" PostId="6633" Score="0" Text="Why do most boxers do it tho" CreationDate="2016-07-19T16:12:43.773" UserId="7296" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13864" PostId="2803" Score="1" Text="As a WC fighter, sounds as the logic way to test the skill of your WC opponent minimizing the risks." CreationDate="2016-07-20T03:00:51.763" UserId="7327" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13865" PostId="6310" Score="0" Text="These are good considerations! In a no rules combat I would fear to risk, my knees for example, throwing a slow or missing kick against a WC experienced fighter." CreationDate="2016-07-20T03:19:20.300" UserId="7327" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13866" PostId="2837" Score="0" Text="3 - Yeah, it is very effective. 6 - Doing this is a challange for wild animals. Some dogs as still like this." CreationDate="2016-07-20T18:09:58.933" UserId="6474" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13867" PostId="4979" Score="0" Text="Wushu/Kung Fu have some beautiful movies, but in real life you are not going to fight like movies. Movies have scripts, everyone will follow them and then I becomes beautiful." CreationDate="2016-07-20T18:22:03.493" UserId="6474" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13868" PostId="6653" Score="0" Text="It's not clear what your answer is and the link you supplied doesn't work (for me, at least)." CreationDate="2016-07-21T16:26:48.420" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13869" PostId="6653" Score="1" Text="You just said it is the best. There is no best martial art for every one or every situations." CreationDate="2016-07-21T20:53:09.240" UserId="6474" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13870" PostId="6400" Score="0" Text="Even in some competitions, the Wing Chun punch does not count as a point because of is short path: not matter how many you connect or the damage you do." CreationDate="2016-07-21T23:33:47.167" UserId="7327" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13871" PostId="6361" Score="0" Text="Note that this stance (called Yee Jee Kim Yeung Ma) is a training stance and not a fighting one." CreationDate="2016-07-21T23:36:13.590" UserId="7327" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13876" PostId="6654" Score="0" Text="I'd argue the premise of it not being worth your own life to take them down to be faulty. If you're in that situation there's a decent chance you're going to die no matter what. Smothering the gun or vest both gives others a chance to act or flee, and may absorb the brunt of the attack rendering it much less effective in the first place." CreationDate="2016-07-25T17:48:16.183" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13877" PostId="6656" Score="0" Text="Another thing to consider is that many terrorists have little or no formal weapons training. If it's not drawn, or is not on target, you have a smidge more time." CreationDate="2016-07-25T17:50:19.883" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13878" PostId="6656" Score="2" Text="@DaveNewton Sadly, I am unsure where to find evidence to backup such a claim. Do terrorists have little or no formal weapons training? Says who?" CreationDate="2016-07-25T22:40:44.993" UserId="6374" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13879" PostId="6659" Score="0" Text="I'm not gonna put my comment as an answer since it is opinion based. According to my dim understanding, you won't find a single martial art that allows you to defend yourself without hurting your opponent (unless you run away), but you can minimize the damage by trying some submissions on him rather than striking, because once you catch your opponent in a submission, you can simply warn him to stop trying to hurt you or you'll finish your submission and break his limb or arm or choke. So I prefer to use some wrestling or BJJ skills to defend yourself without hurting your opponent." CreationDate="2016-07-26T02:18:09.773" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13881" PostId="6660" Score="0" Text="Also consider researching if it would be legal, feasible, and within your goals to carry/use pepper spray and/or a stun gun.  While these also have risks of doing significant harm, they are generally ways to incapacitate someone with less chance of doing serious long term harm." CreationDate="2016-07-26T03:41:59.617" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13882" PostId="6661" Score="3" Text="This answer would be good if it were backed by references, as it stands, it's rumours and hear say." CreationDate="2016-07-26T06:41:39.693" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13883" PostId="6655" Score="0" Text="Your first paragraph needs references. Your last two paragraphs read like suppositions based on the usage of &quot;may&quot;." CreationDate="2016-07-26T06:45:17.777" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13885" PostId="6660" Score="0" Text="Your answer would go better to the original question..." CreationDate="2016-07-26T06:48:42.937" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13888" PostId="6655" Score="1" Text="Okay - I'll grab the reference for the first one, and it leads directly to the other two" CreationDate="2016-07-26T07:21:35.433" UserId="57" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13889" PostId="6660" Score="0" Text="Pain and injury are two different things. This question is concerned with causing injury, which means pain compliance is an option, the other question is concerned with no pain, which is much more limited." CreationDate="2016-07-26T11:12:59.920" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13890" PostId="6658" Score="2" Text="After several of my friends in different cities all ended up being within a few blocks of standoffs and almost-mass shootings, and a group shooting near my home, all within a 3 day span of time, I decided I needed to do research.  Also of note in the study - citizens with guns make up even LESS successful ends to mass shooters, and nearly always those those citizens are security guards or ex-police, AKA, professionals.  As far as guns go, by the numbers the answer to mass shooters is a well trained team with longarms (rifles) and a plan - not individuals with pistols." CreationDate="2016-07-26T11:24:23.467" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13892" PostId="6659" Score="1" Text="Honestly: if you want defense without hurting others then you better be prepared to dance battle your opponent to the bitter end, because that is all you'll be left with." CreationDate="2016-07-26T13:19:21.067" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13893" PostId="6654" Score="0" Text="&quot;I require hard evidence of any claim whatsoever.&quot; then google might just be a better place to ask? Everyone of us would need to google said evidence first, it's rather unlikely that we have the evidence on our hard drive. Just sayin'. I could think of answers to your questions, some of them first hand, but as I don't have &quot;evidence&quot;, I won't bother." CreationDate="2016-07-26T23:05:24.253" UserId="7343" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13894" PostId="6667" Score="0" Text="Aikido owes much more to religious believe (omoto-kyo) rather than injuries sustained. And even so, this was towards the later years of his life. In his earlier years, his dojo was known as &quot;Hell dojo&quot; for a reason." CreationDate="2016-07-27T07:08:44.967" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13895" PostId="6667" Score="0" Text="Sure, there was a development from hard to soft(er). But at least some (if not most) of the _ryu_ in fashion today embrace the latter days. At least those I know first hand. If I compare this to any other popular art around, it surely is less injury prone. Regarding the religion/&quot;ki&quot; stuff, well, as far as I'm concerned most stuff works just fine if you leave that aside." CreationDate="2016-07-27T08:05:01.157" UserId="7343" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13896" PostId="6667" Score="0" Text="Not most schools embrace the later days: Shodokan and Yoshinkan are but just two examples." CreationDate="2016-07-27T08:15:35.857" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13900" PostId="6667" Score="0" Text="Well, I guess user7337 is only marginally interested in history and religion, so I'll leave it at that. ;)" CreationDate="2016-07-28T11:05:58.397" UserId="7343" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13901" PostId="6671" Score="4" Text="Science indicates that joint cracking (the pain free variety) does not contribute to arthritis. http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20120917-is-it-bad-to-crack-your-knuckles http://www.webmd.com/osteoarthritis/guide/joint-cracking-osteoarthritis http://www.health.harvard.edu/pain/does-knuckle-cracking-cause-arthritis" CreationDate="2016-07-28T12:09:50.250" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13902" PostId="6671" Score="0" Text="That's interesting because I repeatedly notice when I crack my knuckles, it feels really nice and loosening during training etc. However, this flares up my arthritic pain after about 2 - 3 hours, and requires another crack. When I stop cracking after about a week the pain subsides, using the methods above. I realise it's quite subjective, nonetheless it's scientifically real by being repeatable." CreationDate="2016-07-28T23:17:21.110" UserId="1985" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13903" PostId="6659" Score="0" Text="Please take the [tour](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour) to learn how this site works. *We are not a forum but a Q&amp;A site* and thus we work in a totally different way." CreationDate="2016-07-29T11:54:51.137" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13904" PostId="6663" Score="0" Text="As a someone who hasn't got any idea about Jiu-Jitsu my first thought would be, &quot;o.k., I think I understand what you mean. If an opponent get's me on de ground, JJ might be one of the few systems (or maybe even the only one?) to get out of problems and to force someone to give up or submit without hitting him&quot;." CreationDate="2016-07-29T12:12:02.850" UserId="7337" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13905" PostId="6659" Score="0" Text="In answer to your edit: we don't train to avoid giving hurt - we train to apply *just the right amount of hurt*. Training gives you that control. Unless you come up with a never-seen-before mind control trick, you need to deliver pain and disablement to your opponent, this will incentivize them to stop. IOW, you cannot avoid hurting your opponent when defending yourself, unless you want to take your chances with just trying to talk to them (at which point you haven't yet reached the point of &quot;defending yourself&quot;)." CreationDate="2016-07-29T12:30:29.867" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13906" PostId="6659" Score="1" Text="@slugster: The treat of harm is a useful weapon to wield as well… But otherwise, cannot agree more with what you said." CreationDate="2016-07-29T12:52:08.113" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13907" PostId="6663" Score="0" Text="it's not only a question of &quot;if he gets you on the ground&quot;. Jiu-jitsu starts standing..so you will know how to avoid or take down your oponent (the techniques are preety straitgh forward). I'm also a total newbie at BJJ but I see its usability..and so I'll be starting BJJ in september myself :)" CreationDate="2016-07-30T19:06:07.677" UserId="6766" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13908" PostId="6677" Score="0" Text="Thanks a lot @CharlesBeer, as you said we need to take a very high risk since he is very fast. Can you add video for demonstrating your offered approach?" CreationDate="2016-07-31T06:15:44.443" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13909" PostId="6676" Score="2" Text="There are two ways to deal with these kicks: don't be there Daniel-san; or step in. His kicks might be quick, but they're not as quick as a step in." CreationDate="2016-07-31T13:38:32.973" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13910" PostId="6676" Score="0" Text="Thanks a lot @slugster, Karatekid is always my inspiration. However, how can I be sure that my step in is faster than his kick? He can change kick angel and hit with the knee or maybe faster than my step (since I keep a distance of more than a leg not to be hit)" CreationDate="2016-07-31T15:03:17.627" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13911" PostId="2319" Score="0" Text="#9 in [this highlight](https://www.facebook.com/ijudo/videos/10154355200783536/) (circa -5:47, or ~3:40 in) is an absolutely stunning utsuri goshi that highlights Thierry's point and demonstrates how it's appropriate when ushiro goshi is not." CreationDate="2016-07-31T18:27:44.417" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13912" PostId="6677" Score="1" Text="The first piece of the first video here is close to what I'm talking about.  They kind of skip through it to the more standard roundhouse defense which I'm guessing you're trying right now.  But, the key is to control the range of the fight so that you stay just close enough to make him try a kick, but far enough out that you can duck away from the first kick and burst in.&#xA;[link](http://www.blackbeltwiki.com/defense-against-round-kick-krav-maga)" CreationDate="2016-07-31T18:58:09.457" UserId="7300" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13913" PostId="6676" Score="2" Text="keeping that distance is the problem - it is ideal for your opponent. When you close in he might still kick but the effectiveness/power of that kick (if it hits you) will be vastly reduced, and he will end up jammed and off balance. All it takes is practice and some courage. And in those videos you linked, every single one of those TKD fighters telegraphs their kick, you just have to learn to be calm and spot it coming - once again that comes down to courage and practice. (I say &quot;courage&quot; because you need to overcome the natural instinctive reaction to back away)." CreationDate="2016-07-31T21:56:01.290" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13914" PostId="6679" Score="1" Text="I suggest you focus your answer on explaining &quot;there is goodness in both&quot; and &quot;situations dictate which will be used&quot;. As it stands, there is no useful information in this answer." CreationDate="2016-08-01T04:39:32.950" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13915" PostId="6678" Score="0" Text="Anecdotal evidence is worthless. Please provide references for your claim." CreationDate="2016-08-01T07:32:25.180" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13917" PostId="2840" Score="0" Text="Love the tip about tape to indicate an injury - never come across that!" CreationDate="2016-08-01T15:02:45.927" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13918" PostId="1980" Score="0" Text="I saw a video of a guy with a black belt in jujitsu of 90kg beat a cultist of 130 kg. Whit out getting any harm and almost broke his arm they just stooped the combat at that point." CreationDate="2016-08-02T12:49:28.450" UserId="6344" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13920" PostId="6685" Score="4" Text="As an addendum, I'd add that a heavier gi is very handy if your style involves a lot of tuidi and other grappling techniques. A lightweight gi can work, but it's not gonna last through years of grappling practice." CreationDate="2016-08-03T16:46:00.667" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13927" PostId="6685" Score="0" Text="No grappling in Kyokushin but sometimes the opponents grab you by reflex quite violently !" CreationDate="2016-08-05T07:51:06.683" UserId="7362" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13928" PostId="6687" Score="0" Text="**Welcome to the site.** I heavily edited your question to remove material that was not relevant to the question and some that was opinion-based. You might want to add whether or not you plan to compete (amateur or professional) or not. I would strongly recommend you took the [tour](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour) as well to learn how the site works." CreationDate="2016-08-05T14:11:05.993" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13929" PostId="6687" Score="0" Text="As to which art is more fun, we cannot answer that question. Why not go to both gyms and see which one is more fun for you? See [this](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/466/82) or [this](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/80/82) questions as to how to chose a gym." CreationDate="2016-08-05T14:14:52.903" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13930" PostId="6688" Score="0" Text="On the naming for various reasons subject, I once talked to instructors at a &quot;karate&quot; school where the beginning curriculum was tae kwon do, and advanced students learned Shotokan karate. They found it simpler for marketing reasons simply to call it all karate." CreationDate="2016-08-05T15:09:40.417" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13931" PostId="6688" Score="0" Text="@mattm - Having taught white belts with a former TKD background, I can attest to the fact that TKD entry-level techniques translate really well into karate with very minor adjustments. Tae Kwon Do and Karate have a lot of shared ancestry so, while I've never seen a school such as you describe, I can totally see why a teacher would want to do it. Concentrate on the basics (kicks, punches, basic blocks) with TKD, then delve deeper into advanced techniques and tuidi with karate. Makes sense!" CreationDate="2016-08-05T17:59:01.140" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13932" PostId="6686" Score="0" Text="45 degree angle of what?  The fist?  this video shows a punch finishing with a 90 degree twist (similar to a karate punch) https://youtu.be/v1l-1qfy6X0" CreationDate="2016-08-05T19:36:15.370" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13933" PostId="6686" Score="0" Text="Ya, which angle the punch turns  a close up of how to hit with the two knuckles first while doing the 45 degree twist." CreationDate="2016-08-05T21:28:55.390" UserId="7370" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13934" PostId="6686" Score="0" Text="I don't think you understand the point of angling a punch.  You don't just angle at 45 degrees then twist to 90 degrees for every punch.  That is a specialised karate style punch for hitting the chest and splitting the ribs.  If you look at other krav maga videos they don't do this.  I recommend watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp4q1EuMmoI and other videos by this martial artist.  While I don't believe he trains krav it will show you the correct fist and wrist shape which is the same for any style in any case." CreationDate="2016-08-06T21:16:36.867" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13935" PostId="5579" Score="0" Text="You see similar techniques in their episode on the Dandao chinese sword. They actually created themselves their iron by traditional smelting." CreationDate="2016-08-07T05:04:49.963" UserId="941" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13936" PostId="6692" Score="1" Text="Can you explain how/why this question isn't a duplicate of your previous question [*What are the best techniques to fight with a heavier and stronger rival*](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/6003/70)?" CreationDate="2016-08-07T08:00:35.190" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13937" PostId="6692" Score="0" Text="Thanks @slugster, Here is a proven technique shown in the video. I'm interested specifically in the technique/ drills in the video. This question is specific." CreationDate="2016-08-07T08:10:05.153" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13938" PostId="6692" Score="0" Text="This is Olympic wrestling.  I can't tell if it is Greco-Roman or Freestyle rules.  Probably best edit the question to reflect this." CreationDate="2016-08-07T08:44:02.010" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13939" PostId="6692" Score="0" Text="Thanks @HuwEvans, I edited the question. I am interested in the specific techniques/ drills to be used for different sizes. I'm looking for the names and information of the drills." CreationDate="2016-08-07T08:48:30.677" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13940" PostId="6692" Score="1" Text="I don't think the different sizes come into this as much as you think.  Just learn this style if you want to learn the techniques you see here.  It doesn't look especially self defence oriented (which I gather is what you are looking for in a style) but if you think it looks cool go for it." CreationDate="2016-08-07T10:12:45.943" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13942" PostId="6692" Score="0" Text="Thanks @mattm, I'm looking for each shown technique that can help overcome the size and strength of the rival. (Maybe there is a source of drills I can look at). The pin at the end is a good start." CreationDate="2016-08-07T12:47:40.537" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13943" PostId="6694" Score="0" Text="actually it was in a competition the guy was 95kg and me 71, he went full force and i was crippled by the pain, after that I couldn't do much, he went in for a second and third hit, and that was it, so I need to train for competition." CreationDate="2016-08-07T13:45:25.993" UserId="4270" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13944" PostId="6694" Score="1" Text="Ok. I would still recommend learning to improve your dodges and footwork so you don't get hit there so much but if you really want to go the conditioning route that is how it is done.." CreationDate="2016-08-07T13:51:17.280" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13945" PostId="6692" Score="0" Text="@HuwEvans If it were Greco, then the single-leg would be illegal. I'm also not sure what you mean by &quot;Olympic&quot; wrestling?" CreationDate="2016-08-07T17:44:29.263" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13946" PostId="6694" Score="0" Text="How about sqauts and horse stance exercises? will that help ?" CreationDate="2016-08-07T18:11:36.500" UserId="4270" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13947" PostId="6692" Score="0" Text="I'm not really familiar with this sport Dave Liepmann.  However I thought that Avi would get better answers if he said it was wrestling.  I just said 'Olympic' distinguish it from WWE performance stuff." CreationDate="2016-08-07T18:13:11.867" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13948" PostId="6694" Score="0" Text="In a word no.  That makes your legs stronger but that's not the issue here.  There is a nerve on the outside of the muscle that responds to being hit.  the size/strength of the muscle is pretty much irrelevant.  You can't cover that nerve with muscle." CreationDate="2016-08-07T18:19:20.147" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13951" PostId="6698" Score="0" Text="Two things here don't seem right.  You might increase muscle density on the abdomen to protect the internal organs from damage but I don't think this applies to the thigh.  Second the attacks to muscles are more damaging if the muscle is in tension.  So I don't think this is what modern fighters are doing when they lift their knee." CreationDate="2016-08-08T07:45:43.913" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13952" PostId="6698" Score="0" Text="Against thigh hits people are mostly looking to avoid the &quot;dead leg&quot; feeling from the nerve getting struck.  Tensing the muscle means more force has to happen to actually get to that nerve, even if the muscle takes more bruising in the process.  Lifting the knee in any fashion requires muscle activation - tension.  I don't think it's a particularly GREAT choice for dealing with roundhouses, but the question is about taking the hits, and this is a common response.  If you think this is bad information, please downvote my answer." CreationDate="2016-08-08T16:40:10.920" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13953" PostId="6698" Score="0" Text="The nerve in question is very close to surface.  It's also muscle used for standing rather than lifting the leg.  I agree they lift the leg but I would say this is to take the weight off it and remove tension from the muscle.  If you lift the leg then hit the point and then stand on the leg and hit the point again you will see what I mean." CreationDate="2016-08-08T16:50:17.463" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13954" PostId="6698" Score="0" Text="Lift your knee.  This activates quads.  Slight outward turn of knee - quads are now the hitting surface, and tensed, not the side of the leg.  Due to the angle of the impact, people CAN still force their way through to the nerve, especially if you aren't strong enough to maintain the angle.  Not a great solution but one people do a lot.  If you do this fully, you have the Muay Thai defense which either aims to take the strike on the shin or have the force slide up the (now) angled thigh, reducing the impact greatly." CreationDate="2016-08-08T17:03:02.887" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13955" PostId="6698" Score="0" Text="Ah that does make sense. I thought you meant lift the knee to tense the vastus lateralis. But if you lift and angle to take it on the quad then yes the tensed muscle helps. If you clarify this ill upvote. I thought there must be some confusion." CreationDate="2016-08-08T17:16:47.733" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13956" PostId="6694" Score="0" Text="Your competition doesnt have weight classes? 24k (~53 lbs) is a massive weight difference for a contact sparring competition. (Unless you are frank dux facing chong li)" CreationDate="2016-08-08T20:58:20.270" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13957" PostId="6703" Score="0" Text="In competitive TKD kicks are above the belt for safety reasons (in most cases). In classes (and indeed many of the patterns/forms) kicks to the lower section are taught. That highlights the difference between a self defence system and a complete art with competitive elements. In a school that focuses heavily on the competitions you see very little practical self defence (low kicking/close range punching)." CreationDate="2016-08-11T09:06:52.000" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13958" PostId="6703" Score="0" Text="@Collett89: &quot;safety reasons&quot;?  Systems such as kyokushin, kickboxing, muay thai all allow full-force low kicks with few serious injuries and are competition focused, so I think &quot;safety reasons&quot; is just a rationalisation of the status quo.  I only know ITF TKD patterns - they have very, very few low kicks: a few low side kicks amongst the black belt patterns, but off the top of my head I can't think of a single low turning/roundhouse kick, which is the most common low kick in most systems that actually use full-contact low kicks competitively.  Which patterns were you thinking of?" CreationDate="2016-08-11T11:44:35.850" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13959" PostId="6703" Score="0" Text="Side - Kwang~Gae/Po~Eun, Waving - Yoo-Sin, Sweeping - Sam Il&#xA;Again for pattern competition most of what used to be middle section now tend to be high section as well. My point was more that more rounded or self defence orientated classes will rightly be teaching low section kicks.&#xA;&#xA;On the safety reasons - In some senses you are right. The rule set has been tweaked to encourage high section/jumping/spinning kicks more than actually preventing leg injuries from low kicks - Though I have been out of training for months because of an accidental low kick in competition." CreationDate="2016-08-11T14:16:22.463" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13960" PostId="6694" Score="0" Text="Yes but i think it was there was no one in my weight class so they just sent me to the higher one...bad luck i guess" CreationDate="2016-08-11T17:57:30.343" UserId="4270" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13961" PostId="6704" Score="0" Text="The lunge stance seems quite similar to a bow (front) stance. I don't see how turning the back foot 90 degrees out to the side gives better extension than having the back foot at 45 degrees, for example." CreationDate="2016-08-11T20:05:50.197" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13962" PostId="6704" Score="0" Text="@mattm I am not familiar with the &quot;bow front stance&quot; so cannot comment either way." CreationDate="2016-08-12T07:07:39.500" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13963" PostId="6706" Score="3" Text="Did you talk to a medical doctor about this? It does not sound like something that should happen…" CreationDate="2016-08-12T13:21:09.797" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13964" PostId="6706" Score="0" Text="How hard are you being hit?  Are you sure this is vertigo and not concussion?" CreationDate="2016-08-12T13:29:44.433" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13965" PostId="6708" Score="2" Text="A related question, especially if you've been watching the Olympics, is why they bounce the way they do. I don't favor that myself, but it is effective for setting up rhythm expectations in your opponent. If you do it well and you're in control, bouncing in rhythm and then breaking that pattern can surprise an opponent, catch them napping between beats. Perhaps more importantly, if you practice it regularly, it is something you can do without conscious thought, but it throws a lot of motion noise for your opponent to track while watching for meaningful important motions that require attention." CreationDate="2016-08-12T14:00:12.487" UserId="7389" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13966" PostId="6707" Score="0" Text="Thanks.Are there any exercises that can be done to condition the neck or maybe parts of the head that helps to strengthen those areas?" CreationDate="2016-08-13T13:06:16.710" UserId="5935" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13967" PostId="6706" Score="0" Text="@ Sardathrion - No,not yet.     @HuwEvans Quite hard. You are right it maybe concussion as well but it appears to be vertigo,just a layman assessment." CreationDate="2016-08-13T13:08:14.347" UserId="5935" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13968" PostId="6704" Score="0" Text="FYI, bow stance variations are common to many martial arts and yoga, where it is called the warrior pose. One example is http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/6083/5961." CreationDate="2016-08-13T15:00:00.647" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13971" PostId="6703" Score="0" Text="@Collett89 waving's defensive anyway, and sweeps are a different kettle of fish.  There are a couple low twisting kicks too (e.g. Eui-am).  Anyway, you can't really learn to use low kicks well, to set them up, learn timing and defences people might employ, avoid leaving yourself vulnerable when kicking low, follow up techniques, nor defend against them, without using them during sparring.  Still, every martial art either neglects many things or ends up producing people who're mediocre at everything.  Most all TKD schools accept weakness in this area and focus elsewhere.  Hope you recover soon." CreationDate="2016-08-14T05:46:11.140" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13972" PostId="6706" Score="0" Text="I m concerned about the kicks to the neck, I don't belive this should be common practice!!" CreationDate="2016-08-14T07:29:11.820" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13973" PostId="6702" Score="2" Text="Someone once said: 'A kick is just a kick and a punch is just a punch' what is different between all of those styles is their usage for the purpose ex competition or self defense. I doubt that in Tkd you are practicing kicks to the groin... those kicks and punches are where the difference is. The technique of the punch or kick might bring up even religious discussions ... which one is the right way to execute. My 2 cents" CreationDate="2016-08-14T08:20:11.217" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13978" PostId="950" Score="0" Text="Related question: [What are the functional differences between the five main T'ai Chi styles?](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/4284/)" CreationDate="2016-08-15T08:41:45.923" UserId="7402" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13979" PostId="6707" Score="0" Text="Again, I strongly recommend a consultation with a physician about your reported symptoms. There are several underlying medical causes for what you have experienced, and some of them could be quite serious. If it turns out to be disequilibrium and medication isn't a viable treatment for you, there are some exercises which can help you rehabilitate your vestibular system. You may find the following link useful: http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/why-isnt-the-spinning-dancer-dizzy/" CreationDate="2016-08-15T14:59:05.777" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13980" PostId="6708" Score="0" Text="You're echoing what Bruce Lee said WRT broken rhythms, so you must be right ;)" CreationDate="2016-08-17T09:08:36.223" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13981" PostId="6712" Score="0" Text="**Welcome to the site!** This is a really nice question." CreationDate="2016-08-17T10:19:20.333" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13982" PostId="6712" Score="0" Text="This might be a good place to start, http://tagmuaythai.com/muay-thai-words-phrases/  but I don't know enough to answer the question better.  Maybe someone who speaks Thai can give a literal translation.  Sometimes that is enough to see where the terms come from." CreationDate="2016-08-17T23:41:34.023" UserId="274" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13985" PostId="6715" Score="0" Text="You are right but I never said the body gets used to being KO-ed. I said it is used to the pain in a fight. Maybe I should have been clearer. Thanks for the comment." CreationDate="2016-08-18T21:12:10.390" UserId="7416" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13986" PostId="4812" Score="0" Text="I'm a boxer but 1000 calories per hour is pretty normal estimation. Your pulse goes up/down in a session and you barely rest. Sparring is also extremely hard. 6 x 3 minutes, with a minutes rest inbetween hitting near max pulse often burns a lot of calories." CreationDate="2016-08-19T12:58:37.363" UserId="6601" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13987" PostId="5077" Score="0" Text="Additionally, these are all older clips. WTF sparring rules have changed dramatically to reduce these types of shots." CreationDate="2016-08-19T22:09:01.703" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13988" PostId="6070" Score="0" Text="I'm no expert in joint locks, but that doesn't look so much like a tool for control as merely a way to cause pain because you control the elbow and wrist joints.  I don't see very much to actually control someone, and in exchange you've lost your arm (it's trapped between their arm and their torso) and you've got an elbow to the ribs, which is not something I'd give lightly.  His suggestion of hunkering down behind their shoulderblade also means you're not seeing anything (like a knife that might come into play)" CreationDate="2016-08-19T23:50:51.890" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13991" PostId="6723" Score="0" Text="You should take the [tour](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour) to see how this site works." CreationDate="2016-08-22T07:07:10.773" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13992" PostId="6723" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion - Too localized hasn't been a close reason for some time." CreationDate="2016-08-22T14:31:49.760" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13993" PostId="6723" Score="3" Text="@JohnP: Fair enough. It is a bad question regardless as it shows no prior research whatsoever and it can be answer trivially by a simple Google search. I know that &quot;LMGTFY&quot; links are frowned upon but really we **do** ask for a minimum of research before asking a question. How hard is it to look for gyms/dojo where one lives that (i) practice the arts you want to learn and (ii) do private tuition?" CreationDate="2016-08-22T14:45:28.887" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13994" PostId="6726" Score="0" Text="any will do but personally I wold go for tae kwon do. As it is the most &quot;sportive&quot; and where the flexibility is trained most but of course it is depends on how and where you practice it." CreationDate="2016-08-22T16:02:19.763" UserId="6344" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13995" PostId="6727" Score="4" Text="It's best to have some kind of reference or experience supporting your answer; otherwise you just have a story you once heard on the internet." CreationDate="2016-08-22T21:07:21.953" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13996" PostId="6726" Score="3" Text="It's never too late to start learning a martial art. Unless you're already dead." CreationDate="2016-08-22T23:12:32.943" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13997" PostId="6732" Score="1" Text="[守破離 (shu-ha-ri)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shuhari) strongly suggest that all martial artists should eventually break away and do their own stuff. Clearly, a certain amount of hubris can skew this… ;)" CreationDate="2016-08-23T07:18:51.120" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13998" PostId="6726" Score="3" Text="Please see [how to select the right dojo](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/80/82) and [what martial art should I start with](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/466/82). What do those questions do not answer for you?" CreationDate="2016-08-23T07:56:37.550" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="13999" PostId="6733" Score="0" Text="Thanks for your answer !! i have do running, and fitness routine since 3 - 4 months ago and yes this burn a lot of my body fat and reduce my weight around 10 kgs, but i want to have more sport than this, and this is why i think i want to learn martial arts (it's been my dream since my childhood)" CreationDate="2016-08-23T11:15:21.213" UserId="7434" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14000" PostId="6729" Score="0" Text="well i tried to avoid jiu-jitsu, aikido, judo, and other martial arts that have a lot of throwing technique, do you have another option ?" CreationDate="2016-08-23T11:18:39.697" UserId="7434" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14001" PostId="6731" Score="0" Text="See also http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/5484/5961" CreationDate="2016-08-23T12:46:04.867" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14002" PostId="6734" Score="2" Text="*&quot;I really don't feel I'm getting much out of it any more&quot;* - what were you getting out of it before you got bored / what do you want to get out of it in future?  What's your understanding of the situation?  That is, are you not learning anything, not sure what to work on technically, not getting to focus your time on those things during a formal class, not feeling like you're progressing, not getting challenged, not seeing progress at this as important to you personally any more...?  How hard have you studied in the past?" CreationDate="2016-08-23T13:09:18.267" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14003" PostId="6732" Score="1" Text="In some systems, an especially high rank (e.g. 10th dan) was given to the founder/creator of the style, and grandmasters thereafter - even if the head of the system/school - stick to the rank immediately below the founder (e.g. 9th), as do their successors...." CreationDate="2016-08-23T13:13:40.433" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14004" PostId="6736" Score="0" Text="Although I would normally agree with this view, the questioner has specifically asked for sport." CreationDate="2016-08-23T13:24:21.810" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14005" PostId="6729" Score="0" Text="@SandyBudiyanto jiujitsu isn't quite throwing, more already-on-the-ground grappling, but then perhaps tai-chi or pilates might be good before starting a striking martial art. It's just that given your current condition I worry these might be to aggressive to start with, if you are serious about getting into it, and you might accidentally injure yourself." CreationDate="2016-08-23T13:43:30.413" UserId="7417" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14006" PostId="6736" Score="0" Text="That's the difference between the letter and the spirit of the question." CreationDate="2016-08-23T14:12:13.670" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14007" PostId="6734" Score="0" Text="Probably a number of reasons: I've been doing it for so long, feel competent in the basics, and I'm not being challenged.  Surely this could happen?  It's conflicting because I want to get my dan grade." CreationDate="2016-08-23T14:18:46.170" UserId="4325" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14008" PostId="6732" Score="0" Text="@TonyD Thanks for the clarification! That said, it still doesn't cause the rest of the ranking system to shift down, which is the major misunderstanding in the question." CreationDate="2016-08-23T16:03:00.677" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14009" PostId="6738" Score="2" Text="The last two paragraphs ate spot on and I would like to see them more emphasised." CreationDate="2016-08-23T17:17:16.840" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14010" PostId="6723" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion - Agreed." CreationDate="2016-08-23T21:49:41.287" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14011" PostId="6734" Score="0" Text="If you feel competent in the basics, are not being challenged, what is stopping you from trying your dan grading now? What will change in a year? Is it a school time requirement? Have you talked to your instructor about this?" CreationDate="2016-08-23T22:00:10.837" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14015" PostId="6743" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site. I edited your answer a little to make it easier to read and to remove some unnecessary verbiage." CreationDate="2016-08-24T15:04:06.883" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14016" PostId="6729" Score="0" Text="oh okay, looks like i've got wrong image of jiu jitsu. i'll consider your options :)" CreationDate="2016-08-24T16:41:14.063" UserId="7434" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14018" PostId="6723" Score="0" Text="@JohnP: Apparently &quot;too localized&quot; is a reason not to ask questions: [Recommendations for schools or teachers in area X (too localized)](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic). So, [off to meta…](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/451/82)" CreationDate="2016-08-25T14:23:03.130" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14019" PostId="6723" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion - I would imagine that that was done when the site got its moderators way back when, and that was still a valid close reason." CreationDate="2016-08-25T15:16:17.783" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14020" PostId="6746" Score="0" Text="What kind of effect should this kind of choke have, other than simply pinning you on the floor?" CreationDate="2016-08-25T19:24:09.157" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14021" PostId="6746" Score="0" Text="The choke stops your breath..." CreationDate="2016-08-25T19:30:19.683" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14022" PostId="6746" Score="0" Text="Actually the main pressure of the choke would be on my neck, so maybe I understand It wrongly, do you have a picture of what you exactly mean?" CreationDate="2016-08-25T19:33:07.127" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14023" PostId="6746" Score="0" Text="Thanks @mitro. I tried to find picture or video but unfortunately I haven't found. You are right the choke is on the neck but like any other choke the front hand goes in the gap between the neck to the floor and the other hand is holding the it at top with leverage on the neck." CreationDate="2016-08-25T19:36:12.217" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14024" PostId="6746" Score="0" Text="Are you talking about something like this but on the floor: https://youtu.be/LppnEfRoFIM ?" CreationDate="2016-08-25T19:49:23.777" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14025" PostId="6746" Score="0" Text="Same choke but the whole body and the stomach are on the floor and the face looks at the floor." CreationDate="2016-08-25T19:55:15.240" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14027" PostId="6746" Score="0" Text="Thanks @mattm, it is a totally different situation, you can't do the drills mentioned there since your body and face are on the floor. You can't use your hands since there is no gap." CreationDate="2016-08-25T20:46:36.777" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14028" PostId="6746" Score="1" Text="Whether you are facing down is not an important detail. You can always roll so that you are facing up because your opponent is parallel to you and can't effectively stop a roll. But that change in position does not improve your escape situation. I don't know what gap you are talking about. How is there a gap in a normal naked rear choke situation?" CreationDate="2016-08-25T21:04:30.087" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14029" PostId="6723" Score="2" Text="@Sardathrion I don't see how this is too localized. No part of the question that pertains to any specific locality. The questioner's house could just as easily be someone else's house. Methods for finding training partners should be reusable." CreationDate="2016-08-25T22:01:36.913" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14030" PostId="6723" Score="1" Text="@mattm: Possibly not &quot;too localized&quot; but *as it stands, it is still a terrible question.*" CreationDate="2016-08-26T12:56:07.383" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14031" PostId="2057" Score="0" Text="http://fightland.vice.com/blog/wushu-watch-ki-chi-and-everything-between" CreationDate="2016-08-26T16:56:51.773" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14032" PostId="6749" Score="0" Text="Yes, I think youre right. Its a spinning wheel kick, with a little extra pre-step." CreationDate="2016-08-26T20:43:44.353" UserId="7456" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14033" PostId="6751" Score="1" Text="Do you want improve power or speed as they may have different exercises and you questions are not really clear which one you prefer to be answered... (topic and detail)" CreationDate="2016-08-28T00:13:46.653" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14034" PostId="6754" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site. I slightly edited your question to make it more readable. Also, in this case, the medidal-advice tag is appropriate." CreationDate="2016-08-28T16:03:09.803" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14035" PostId="6754" Score="2" Text="It's unclear to me what you are asking. To have a technical knockout, you need a rule set and a referee, which will vary depending on the sport, for which you also have consenting competitors. Also what does it mean for someone to check your eyes and nose? How are they doing this when they are behind you and both their hands are occupied on the back of your head from the full Nelson?" CreationDate="2016-08-28T17:06:53.943" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14038" PostId="6754" Score="1" Text="Thanks for your reply. This was just on the street. Just to clarify, after I stood up someone came rushing over and before I knew it, he had me in the Nelson hold, which, I think he did just to descalate the situation. Once I had calmed down a bit ( I was understandably agitated...), he release me from the hold and then asked me to follow his finger with his eyes, which I was able to do without any problem. He then pressed on the sides of my nose and asked if it hurt, which it didn't. I'm just surpsised that I could be knocked down without being knocked out or have at least a broken nose." CreationDate="2016-08-29T22:39:15.447" UserId="7462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14039" PostId="6758" Score="0" Text="Thanks for clearing that up for me. I guess I wasn't knocked out then, as I did not feel stunned for more than a few seconds. Naturally, I was rather baffled that someone would do something like that but that's something else, I think." CreationDate="2016-08-29T22:41:55.850" UserId="7462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14042" PostId="3171" Score="0" Text="I have actually broken my clavicle, and I had essentially full range of motion while it was broken.  I could have thrown a punch.  While adrenalized, I didn't actually feel any pain immediately after breaking it (that came later).  I would not rely on a clavicle break to incapacitate someone in any way." CreationDate="2016-08-30T19:55:32.257" UserId="6213" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14044" PostId="6761" Score="0" Text="I will remove the last edits in that case" CreationDate="2016-08-31T14:48:55.410" UserId="7468" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14045" PostId="6761" Score="0" Text="I would strongly suggest you did ask another question based on the content of the (now reverted) edit." CreationDate="2016-08-31T15:24:26.717" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14046" PostId="6761" Score="0" Text="I think the additional paragraph was fine, it clarifies what is being asked. I will note that BJJ schools differ on the &quot;playful&quot; approach: some do it all the time (I think to their detriment), while others only rarely do this kind of &quot;flow rolling&quot; (especially people training for actual application, such as in sport or MMA competition)." CreationDate="2016-09-01T06:21:35.553" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14047" PostId="6765" Score="0" Text="Shiai (試合) means a game/match. Kyōsō (競争) means competition. Those two are very different beasts. Randori (乱取り?) describes free style practice those meaning varies between arts." CreationDate="2016-09-01T06:56:30.310" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14049" PostId="6771" Score="1" Text="Hey Polonski. First of all thank you for the awnser. Highly appreciated. Yes, Judo is the other option, coincidentally there is a great Judo club here also. You make a very strong point. Perhaps I will go with Judo aswell as I have had previous experience with it as a teenager. Yup I'm thinking that will work well with Kyokushin. Thanks heaps. Drew 27 New Zealand" CreationDate="2016-09-02T01:32:50.950" UserId="7475" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14052" PostId="6773" Score="3" Text="It is unclear what you want to know.  What are your goals?" CreationDate="2016-09-02T06:18:53.960" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14053" PostId="6770" Score="0" Text="This is unclear as we have no idea of what your goals are. You say you are not interested in a few things, what about what you are interested in? In additions, most of the tone of your question prompt discussion which we do not do." CreationDate="2016-09-02T07:07:49.670" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14054" PostId="6769" Score="0" Text="Il n'y a pas de problem d'être Français… Et surtout pas besoin de s'excusé!" CreationDate="2016-09-02T07:11:36.137" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14056" PostId="6770" Score="0" Text="You don't discuss? What is this forum for then if you don't discuss things?" CreationDate="2016-09-02T07:18:21.477" UserId="7475" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14057" PostId="6773" Score="0" Text="What I would like to know is are those two arts a good combination? My goal would be to be proficient in both. Does that awnser your question?" CreationDate="2016-09-02T07:19:16.530" UserId="7475" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14058" PostId="6770" Score="1" Text="We are **not** a forum. We are a question and answer site. Maybe you should take the [tour](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour) to see how this site works?" CreationDate="2016-09-02T07:32:36.117" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14059" PostId="6773" Score="5" Text="No, it does not. Proficient for what? Keeping fit? Getting a shodan? Impressing people? Getting a job as a bouncer?  Becoming world champion? Becoming a AAA action actor in Hollywood?…" CreationDate="2016-09-02T07:35:00.217" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14061" PostId="6782" Score="4" Text="Is it impossible to ask the instructor that your phone be audible during class due to your profession? While not exactly ideal, most instructors should understand special/emergency cases. What parts of your body can you wear an item on? There exist apple watches and armbands which could possible be worn on ankles." CreationDate="2016-09-02T18:06:21.413" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14062" PostId="6774" Score="3" Text="If the majority of your answer is a disclaimer, it may be better to just not answer." CreationDate="2016-09-03T03:27:34.593" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14063" PostId="6771" Score="0" Text="I'm glad it fell into place for you. Karate &gt; Judo seems like the right match. Once you've mastered those, I'd suggest Bunjinkan Kobudo to complete the journey." CreationDate="2016-09-03T10:14:07.660" UserId="1985" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14068" PostId="6781" Score="0" Text="For the agility ladder, see http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/2257/drills-for-training-agility-cross-art" CreationDate="2016-09-04T15:36:50.387" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14069" PostId="6767" Score="0" Text="From [the JKA rules (pdf)](http://jka.or.jp/en/content/wp-content/uploads/application_doc/tournament_rule_regulations.pdf): &quot;The following elements are forbidden: a) excessive contact, going beyond the target, 'wild' swinging techniques... In a match or event, all techniques – punches, kicks, strikes, have to be done with control. The distance required to do the techniques should be close enough to be able to be effective. There should be no damage done to the opponent. A light touch to the target is permitted.&quot; That is in every way the **opposite** of full contact." CreationDate="2016-09-05T05:16:16.020" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14070" PostId="6784" Score="0" Text="You didn't actually answer the question (&quot;When was the southern temple destroyed?&quot;)!" CreationDate="2016-09-05T11:46:11.850" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14071" PostId="6780" Score="1" Text="Can you add any objective evidence to support your answer?" CreationDate="2016-09-05T11:47:22.003" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14072" PostId="6786" Score="2" Text="wish Bruce Lee was alive to answer it 0:)" CreationDate="2016-09-05T19:04:36.553" UserId="6163" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14073" PostId="6790" Score="2" Text="Welcome to the site @marko. Currently your question is too broad and not really answerable. I encourage you to check [previous similar questions](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/search?q=choose+martial+art+is%3Aquestion). If you can have a think about it then edit your question and add more detail then we can look at re-opening it." CreationDate="2016-09-06T01:21:26.643" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14074" PostId="6767" Score="0" Text="We do light touch point sparring in my style. We contact the body, but this is FAR FAR from &quot;full contact&quot;." CreationDate="2016-09-06T14:53:23.097" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14075" PostId="6784" Score="1" Text="@MikeP - Doesn't his fourth sentence state the late 1600's? It's a crap rant personal bias answer, but there is at least that..." CreationDate="2016-09-06T14:54:36.757" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14076" PostId="6791" Score="0" Text="this one https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bluetooth-Waterproof-Bracelet-Support-Monitoring/dp/B01AIGX0LQ/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1473235975&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=miband is detachable from the armlet and can be put in the pocket that some MMA shorts have" CreationDate="2016-09-07T08:15:01.020" UserId="767" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14077" PostId="2424" Score="0" Text="You know that WTF Taekwondo ain't a fan of katas either, and there's full contact sparring. Just don't look at the Olympics because that fighting style is lame." CreationDate="2016-09-08T03:29:18.110" UserId="2041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14078" PostId="6786" Score="0" Text="That's a lot of questions. You may want to focus on 1 to prevent this question from becoming too broad." CreationDate="2016-09-08T07:40:44.890" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14079" PostId="6773" Score="1" Text="**Without clearly defined goals, this is unclear thus inviting discussion and opinions.**" CreationDate="2016-09-08T14:52:50.130" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14080" PostId="6784" Score="0" Text="I agree  with the sentiment but it doesn't sound accurate." CreationDate="2016-09-11T11:49:27.810" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14081" PostId="6797" Score="2" Text="I have never heard of such a thing being used, it is certainly not a necessary piece of equipment for proper nunchaku use. I am not an expert in this weapon, but I have used them many times without experiencing the slightest discomfort to the armpits." CreationDate="2016-09-12T01:39:19.110" UserId="6083" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14082" PostId="6797" Score="2" Text="Yeah, if you're smacking yourself hard in the armpits, you're doing it wrong. Like Michael's comment, I've never even heard of anyone using armpit pads or even feeling pain from using a nunchaku. The primary way you hurt yourself using them is by accidentally hitting yourself. Usually it's either the back the head, the face, the groin, or the fingers. Which brings me to an old joke: &quot;If you ever have to fight someone who's bare handed, and you have a pair of nunchucks, give him your nunchucks instead.&quot; (Implying that an untrained person will just knock his own self out with them.)" CreationDate="2016-09-12T02:33:12.173" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14083" PostId="6797" Score="0" Text="*Please do not answer in comments. Instead, write an answer.*" CreationDate="2016-09-12T06:26:32.523" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14084" PostId="6544" Score="0" Text="**[Meta question as to why this has not be closed yet](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/455/specific-question-on-devices-should-be-closed-and-deleted)**" CreationDate="2016-09-12T06:55:29.377" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14085" PostId="6544" Score="1" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is very broad and crosses into areas that this list shouldn't/can't deal with (legality of using weapons in any jurisdiction is beyond the scope of this list)." CreationDate="2016-09-12T09:22:43.513" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14086" PostId="6796" Score="0" Text="Do you have any access to coaching/proper training? If not, then you're more likely to hurt yourself than anyone else." CreationDate="2016-09-12T13:13:50.547" UserId="6601" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14087" PostId="6797" Score="0" Text="I'm sorry, I didn't think my input was substantial enough to merit a full answer." CreationDate="2016-09-12T20:01:26.737" UserId="6083" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14088" PostId="6796" Score="0" Text="I think that I have the perception to train  myself safely . Why should I hurt someone else? Is that what learn in the proper training?" CreationDate="2016-09-13T04:43:41.870" UserId="7476" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14089" PostId="6796" Score="1" Text="If you haven't had proper training then no, you cannot train safely." CreationDate="2016-09-13T06:38:57.833" UserId="6601" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14090" PostId="6803" Score="2" Text="All 3 incidents were road rage?  So... were you in your car and the person ripped open the door/smashed the window and pulled you out?   Or did they follow you after the incident until you got to a destination and parked and then attacked you?  Or did you get out and argue with them?  Because in that last case, probably not getting out of the car would be answer #1 towards self defense, aka &quot;making your life safer from physical violence&quot;." CreationDate="2016-09-13T16:30:46.647" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14092" PostId="6803" Score="1" Text="It would be helpful to revise this question for readability. For example, &quot;So if I want to him in safe place just to make him disable for sometime or say I don't blood than I couldn't do..&quot; What's a safe place? Are you asking about how to hit someone without injuring them? Also, I don't really see how your bullet point descriptions of yourself are relevant to the question." CreationDate="2016-09-13T17:38:13.713" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14093" PostId="6805" Score="1" Text="Possible duplicate of [Martial Arts Technique Against Knife Attack](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/5432/martial-arts-technique-against-knife-attack)" CreationDate="2016-09-13T17:42:40.087" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14095" PostId="6805" Score="2" Text="Are you asking about how to defend against a trained martial artist who knows how to use a karambit? If so, you need to seek training in a martial art that deals with the karambit. There are too many variables for us to give you a reasonable answer [This video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NixFNpYB53w) should give you an idea of the complexity of the question you're asking." CreationDate="2016-09-13T18:41:44.060" UserId="1462" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14096" PostId="6651" Score="0" Text="If you can knock an adult person out with this little stick, you can probably do the same without it. It reminds of scenes where Jackie Chan beats a bunch of people with a washing cloth or something" CreationDate="2016-09-13T19:56:42.883" UserId="7514" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14097" PostId="6806" Score="0" Text="While decent advice, this does not contribute more of an answer to the (poorly worded) question than citing the other answer." CreationDate="2016-09-13T20:10:36.493" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14098" PostId="6808" Score="1" Text="I remember an episode of Sport Science about &quot;punching like a girl&quot;: [Part 1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzntve0kiaU) and [part 2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mfn5As4G5o). They used some device there although I doubt that it is publicly available." CreationDate="2016-09-13T20:13:11.167" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14099" PostId="6808" Score="3" Text="For the physics, I think you actually want impulse (function of force over time) rather than simply force. Impulse captures the difference between a push (potentially large force over long time) as opposed to a strike (force over very short time). Power (force * distance / time) is probably better suited to measuring a push than a strike." CreationDate="2016-09-13T21:03:21.057" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14100" PostId="6810" Score="1" Text="You should add a bit about recognizing &quot;good&quot; accelerometer data. A good punch has a certain snap to it, and thus the graph will have a shorter spike to represent this. A bad punch will simply push the bag around, and you should see a broader displacement." CreationDate="2016-09-14T01:24:46.967" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14102" PostId="6802" Score="0" Text="I was doing karate when I was a child. I had 4 belts. Then my parents didnt let me continue it.  Now I am kicking an old office chair and i dont have the bag yet. After 1 and a half hour of kicking (axe and roundhouse) I was really tired, the next day my adductor muscles were sore. I guess I need more focus on fitness and stretching and i am working on it." CreationDate="2016-09-14T03:09:57.430" UserId="7476" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14104" PostId="6802" Score="0" Text="no one gave an answer for 3 days. I have ordered a stand for the bag, a 100 lbs bag (banana ), wraps for the hands ...  thanks for the tips tho" CreationDate="2016-09-14T03:56:49.610" UserId="7476" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14105" PostId="6803" Score="0" Text="@mattm I see you have above 2000 points, I think you also can modify and correct the typos or just dont bother let me do it." CreationDate="2016-09-14T05:36:38.247" UserId="7512" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14108" PostId="6802" Score="1" Text="Your welcome. Enjoy the training. Always good to do dynamic stretching before and at the end of training.  I think the chair will be happy when your bag arrives..." CreationDate="2016-09-14T08:55:41.663" UserId="7187" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14110" PostId="6811" Score="0" Text="I strongly suspect that those courses offers are similar to the thousands of [419](http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/scams/nigeria.htm) emails that offered to make me tremendously rich… Oh look, your course cost £150!" CreationDate="2016-09-14T10:14:43.120" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14112" PostId="6811" Score="1" Text="I also answered a similar question more generally here:&#xA;http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/4315/learning-grappling-without-an-instructor/4317#4317" CreationDate="2016-09-14T21:05:40.990" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14118" PostId="5875" Score="0" Text="Muay Thai is more ancient than kick boxing…" CreationDate="2016-09-19T13:27:00.677" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14119" PostId="5875" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion Mauy Thai is a type of kickboxing. Kick boxing is kind of a generic term, I'm not refering to American Kickboxing. Also Muay Boran is generally what people refer to when talking about traditional Muay Thai. Generally a subset of Muay Boran is taught in gyms and used in competitions and is referred to as Mauy Tahi." CreationDate="2016-09-19T14:12:51.493" UserId="6567" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14120" PostId="6817" Score="0" Text="Would badly wrapping one's hands cause damage? Yes,  it would...  Without a teacher,  this is dangerous advise." CreationDate="2016-09-19T17:07:26.927" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14123" PostId="6819" Score="0" Text="Thanks, I can see exactly what you mean with the kicks, but I came across this in Two Step Sparring Number Two where your attacker is in fixed stance (as you mention in the first part of your answer). Obviously fixed stance is pretty stable so I can't see anyone being knocked off balance by an upward move. Is there a specific purpose behind the block in this instance?" CreationDate="2016-09-20T10:34:22.373" UserId="7412" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14126" PostId="6819" Score="0" Text="@Isaacson added information based on comment" CreationDate="2016-09-20T11:07:46.403" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14130" PostId="1172" Score="0" Text="Excuse me for asking, and with utmost respect to your detailed answer: What do you mean &quot;street fighter&quot;? Do you mean you actually go and fight  people on the street? For real? &quot;If you survive, you win&quot;? And then you go and write detailed an well-reasoned answers on a forum like this? Is it for fun? For money? &#xA;&#xA;IMHO, and according to my meager experience, you don't train for street fights. The one I've seen was decided by a friend of one opponent picking a stone and hitting the other one on the head with it.&#xA;&#xA;Now go train for this :(" CreationDate="2016-09-21T21:00:45.220" UserId="173" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14131" PostId="1172" Score="0" Text="P.S. In Israel we had had many &quot;street fights&quot; last year, due to Palestinian terrorists. Those &quot;fights&quot; were usually &quot;decided&quot; using cars (terrorists running over victims), knives (terrorists stabbing victims) and firearms (civilian and military response). Funnily enough, in one case an Israeli civilian defended himself using a Nunchaku!" CreationDate="2016-09-21T21:08:39.353" UserId="173" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14132" PostId="5867" Score="0" Text="By &quot;national team&quot;, do you mean the team at your school that goes to nationals, or the actual national team for your country?" CreationDate="2016-09-21T22:56:07.477" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14133" PostId="6817" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion yes but hand wrapping is one of the few things in martial arts you CAN learn on youtube :)" CreationDate="2016-09-22T06:28:57.570" UserId="6601" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14135" PostId="40" Score="1" Text="The example with the guitar is off. The guitar itself is one-sided, that's the reason players do not switch - besides there is no reason to switch at all." CreationDate="2016-09-22T13:08:44.533" UserId="93" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14136" PostId="6826" Score="5" Text="Stretch? Your question is very vague. If you want more than a vague answer, it would be helpful to state what you have done and how that has worked for you." CreationDate="2016-09-22T18:37:31.903" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14137" PostId="6818" Score="2" Text="I hesitate to say the answers here are all wrong, but basically that's how I see it. I wish I had time to shed light on this technique. I will let you in on a little secret. All TKD forms come from shotokan karate, which in turn comes from Okinawan shorin-ryu karate. That's the origin of this technique. Now, find out what the &quot;bunkai&quot; is for it inside of shorin-ryu karate. Do that, and you're going to be a lot more enlightened than merely accepting &quot;it's a block / parry&quot; as an explanation. It's definitely not a block. My advice. Sorry if I sound rude. Maybe I'll post my answer soon." CreationDate="2016-09-23T04:20:04.680" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14138" PostId="6826" Score="5" Text="Welcome to the site. Have a browse through these other [stretching related questions](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/search?q=[stretching]+is%3Aquestion) then see if you can refine your question a bit." CreationDate="2016-09-23T09:35:57.717" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14139" PostId="6826" Score="0" Text="To add to the question: I would like to be able to kick higher and do the poomsaes in a better way." CreationDate="2016-09-23T13:52:37.440" UserId="7539" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14140" PostId="6825" Score="0" Text="Was adding the dating site URL as a joke too far? Otherwise, using things like Meetup.com and Fitlink seems like his best bet." CreationDate="2016-09-23T18:13:48.683" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14141" PostId="6829" Score="0" Text="Could you please expand the answer as a link only is subject to link rot." CreationDate="2016-09-23T21:02:23.393" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14142" PostId="6835" Score="4" Text="I am not sure if acting like a grown up is on topic even if in a martial arts context. There is no martial arts techniques either against being rude or against being offended." CreationDate="2016-09-24T16:49:21.203" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14143" PostId="6829" Score="0" Text="Mea Culpa&#xA;&#xA;In the first from of Tachi-uchi-no-kurai set from Musu Jikiden Eishin Ryu there is an example of a cut to the knee being blocked by exactly the same action. This results in an edge to edge contact. Of course, the defender could rotate to use the edge, but that would be adding an extra movement to protect the sword when they should be moving straight to protect the leg." CreationDate="2016-09-25T11:10:48.340" UserId="7543" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14144" PostId="6841" Score="0" Text="Do you have sources or is this just speculation?" CreationDate="2016-09-25T11:15:48.523" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14145" PostId="6829" Score="0" Text="Can you please edit your answer?" CreationDate="2016-09-25T11:16:29.143" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14146" PostId="6841" Score="0" Text="The draw from Sanjuro appears to be the left hand half of the Nito seiho set from niten ichi ryu. (albeit applied to a katana).&#xA;&#xA;I have seen left handed draws demonstrated but only by Natori Ryu enthusiasts and I would never use that as a reference." CreationDate="2016-09-25T13:22:55.890" UserId="7543" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14147" PostId="6841" Score="0" Text="Comments are ephemeral, please edit your answer." CreationDate="2016-09-25T18:56:03.247" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14148" PostId="6832" Score="1" Text="Is this an answer or a request for more information!?" CreationDate="2016-09-26T09:02:52.530" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14149" PostId="4194" Score="0" Text="Judo is supposed to be 'gentle' and without armour or weapons, nevertheless it is neither particularly 'gentle', nor its katas do exclude the idea of attacking with weapons or moving as if we still had armour. Kata is a way of securing the tradition and roots of a martial art, which almost certainly includes the whole variety of warfare." CreationDate="2016-09-26T09:25:21.113" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14150" PostId="1063" Score="0" Text="Simply, no, actually. I'm surprised this was the accepted answer.  If you look at the overall diameter of the staff, and the reduction in material that very shallow etchings on the surface would cause, and any changes in overall strength and capability of the staff, the effects would be negligible." CreationDate="2016-09-27T14:40:10.903" UserId="7553" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14151" PostId="1056" Score="0" Text="Use an electrical etcher or a cheap soldering iron to burn your ectching into your staff.  I've done it several times, it works well, and, no, it won't weaken your staff in any measurable amount." CreationDate="2016-09-27T14:41:18.910" UserId="7553" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14152" PostId="6835" Score="0" Text="It's a wonderful martial art, one of the very best you can practice, but along with the pride and dedication to such an difficult and comprehensive practice, you get a lot of intensity and fervor from people who have risen through the ranks.  I used to practice that art and am familiar with almost all of the black sashes.  This one was being hyperbolic to emphasize how serious and harmful he thinks it is.  It was probably his way of emphasizing that it isn't just a personal choice (second hand effects, what happens to those around you if you are harmed), not that you'd attack a disabled person" CreationDate="2016-09-27T14:46:10.773" UserId="7553" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14153" PostId="3171" Score="0" Text="I think he's mistaken a chop to the throat will break a clavicle, but a hand chop would have the force to break a clavicle, if delivered there.  That is actually the standard for breaking the pine boards.  A full-thickness, solid, single piece adult pine board (not the ones where sections are glued together that supply companies sell) requires about the same force to break as the amount needed to break the clavicle.... or so I'm told." CreationDate="2016-09-27T14:51:08.290" UserId="7553" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14154" PostId="6844" Score="2" Text="I was wondering if I had to write this… Thank you for doing it for me." CreationDate="2016-09-28T06:59:17.970" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14157" PostId="6844" Score="2" Text="&quot;Respect is earned, not a right.&quot; Huge point here." CreationDate="2016-09-30T00:45:14.153" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14160" PostId="1071" Score="0" Text="@Anon - a cheap pen-style soldering iron works really well for this, as well." CreationDate="2016-09-30T14:16:23.057" UserId="7553" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14161" PostId="636" Score="0" Text="Because it's only through repetition of properly executed technique that one becomes proficient.  You don't take a novice and cold-cock him in the jaw because &quot;well, that's what happens in the real world.&quot;  You teach the very basic movements of blocking or countering, and have them practice in a very simplified fashion.  Once the foundation is established, you add more speed and difficulty, and eventually it becomes second nature.  Generally, you learn to crawl, then walk, before you learn how to run, and when you learn how to run, it takes practice before you can run very fast.  Same concept." CreationDate="2016-09-30T14:26:37.853" UserId="7553" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14163" PostId="1218" Score="1" Text="I wonder if there's any analysis about whether blocks with the edge increase the chance of your own or the attacker's sword shattering/breaking." CreationDate="2016-09-30T14:55:50.497" UserId="7553" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14164" PostId="1218" Score="0" Text="@AndrewMattson: That would make a good question for this site!" CreationDate="2016-09-30T15:00:32.687" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14167" PostId="6844" Score="2" Text="I think smoking is a disgusting habit, and it's certainly within a martial arts instructor's responsibilities to berate his students a bit about the health aspects (and eating right, and training hard, etc.). But no student should have to &quot;earn&quot; the minimal amount of respect of not being compared to a killer of disabled people for doing something legal, on his own time, far from the dojang. That's just not an appropriate way to talk to other people." CreationDate="2016-09-30T17:45:19.467" UserId="698" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14168" PostId="6847" Score="0" Text="I very much like the idea and approach you present here. Would it be possible to flesh it out with some authoritative sources supporting the very important points you mentioned?" CreationDate="2016-10-01T19:12:45.327" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14169" PostId="6585" Score="3" Text="The existing answers are very good, however they do not address the fact that the audible kiai is an external expression of the warrior spirit and **should not sound like** 'kiyay'. That is, *kiai* is a Japanese word that has a meaning - you should not shout 'kiaia'!" CreationDate="2016-10-02T15:29:52.920" UserId="7564" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14170" PostId="6847" Score="0" Text="I don't have authoritative sources beyond my own experience and my trusted physio. The only reference I remember her making in describing the idea of resistance training vs. regular stretching was to Ido Portal. My reason for posting was just to mention an alternate approach to what I had found to be ineffective stretching - I'm not an expert at all and would love to hear others experiences and tips in this area." CreationDate="2016-10-02T21:33:49.103" UserId="7562" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14171" PostId="6850" Score="1" Text="This generally heavily depends on the dojo. In other dojos it can be 'Hai?' - 'Hai!' as approvement of understanding the instruction. The link @Sardathrion provided in his second comment is quite accurate regarding original *japanese* tradition. Therefore: No, that's simply not true." CreationDate="2016-10-03T12:13:43.027" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14172" PostId="6850" Score="0" Text="'Hai' is a Japanese word meaning 'yes', which can be used as another kind of acknowledgement. No teacher should be dictating to their students not to use the word 'yes', no matter what school, style, etc. They can be used interchangeably." CreationDate="2016-10-03T12:53:00.110" UserId="7564" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14173" PostId="6850" Score="1" Text="I know that they *are* used interchangeably quite often, especially when used by non-japanese in rather militaristic context or conduct. The *correct* use of the expression is - as it is clearly not used as defined by the language it is lent from (see Sar's link) - nevertheless up to the social context, i.e. 'dojo rules'. That is why there is no general answer for the question as it stands. It has to be answered according to the habits of this specific community, which we do not know." CreationDate="2016-10-03T16:00:32.013" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14174" PostId="6844" Score="1" Text="And, very often, instructors might feel that it is the hardship and difficulties, overcome, that bring the enlightenment and strength, so they will intentionally try your character and resolve.  Definitely, expecting that to necessarily be a &quot;safe space&quot; in terms of gentle treatment is probably not the best assumption." CreationDate="2016-10-03T17:04:24.460" UserId="7553" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14176" PostId="6850" Score="2" Text="The question is tagged Shotokan. And the question phrasing asks 'when' not 'if' it should be said. This is a clear context that needs a simple answer. No inconclusive history lessons, no Okinawa, and no trolling." CreationDate="2016-10-04T02:09:55.633" UserId="7564" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14177" PostId="6850" Score="0" Text="[The question and this answer show no prior research whatsoever](http://www.karatebyjesse.com/meaning-oss-osu-japanese/)…" CreationDate="2016-10-04T07:38:22.843" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14178" PostId="6850" Score="2" Text="This answer is derived from years of training in the Shotokan system, with national teams and some of the best Japanese and Western instructors. And maybe the question comes from insufficient research, or maybe no good information was found elsewhere. This is an assumption. And what's the purpose of this forum if no-one is allowed to ask such questions? To me it's a valid, worthwhile question that should be welcomed and may be valuable for others." CreationDate="2016-10-04T09:25:16.583" UserId="7564" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14179" PostId="6600" Score="0" Text="[Off to meta…](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/458/82)" CreationDate="2016-10-04T10:12:30.467" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14184" PostId="6853" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site.  I removed some of your post to make it more tidy.  Good question!" CreationDate="2016-10-04T21:11:52.427" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14185" PostId="6854" Score="2" Text="A physiotherapist would be a good source, too." CreationDate="2016-10-05T08:24:37.827" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14186" PostId="6641" Score="2" Text="[This is incomplete and thus inacurate…](http://www.karatebyjesse.com/meaning-oss-osu-japanese/)" CreationDate="2016-10-05T08:56:35.040" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14189" PostId="6858" Score="0" Text="That is a very good addition! I should have thought of it! ^_~" CreationDate="2016-10-05T12:36:13.563" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14190" PostId="6858" Score="6" Text="I believe that breakfalls should be taught throughout any mandated physical education curriculum. They are without a doubt the most broadly useful skill I've learned in my years of martial arts. Everyone should know how to fall in a manner so as to minimize injury." CreationDate="2016-10-05T14:36:52.393" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14191" PostId="6856" Score="0" Text="In our school, we will try to mix in exercises (grappling dummy, instructors holding thick pads, heavy-duty striking equipment) where the kids can unleash, full force, without fear of hurting anyone.  Of course, that opens the can of worms that kids sometimes are unaware that they can be hurt, so there's still a balancing act." CreationDate="2016-10-05T18:33:50.207" UserId="7553" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14192" PostId="6321" Score="0" Text="Agree with Nathan.  That was the main problem I was having with my throws in a different martial art.  In my situation it was a person about the same weight as me, but significantly shorter." CreationDate="2016-10-05T18:46:45.350" UserId="7553" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14193" PostId="6293" Score="0" Text="I would have referred to Eagleman as well, because it's the best empirical research regarding this. Especially the actual perceptual capabilities (not improved in the sense of **slow motion**) vs. the memory (**number of details** perceived) is important here. You do not really perceive anything in slow motion, you just remember it that way, because you perceive way more details, but at the same rate." CreationDate="2016-10-06T12:32:08.340" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14195" PostId="6826" Score="0" Text="Better than what? What do you think you need improvement on? Vague questions lead to vague answers. Specifics allow us to address the specific anatomy involved." CreationDate="2016-10-07T04:23:16.540" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14196" PostId="6847" Score="0" Text="Flexibility without strength doesn't do much for you. The body has its own limiters built in." CreationDate="2016-10-07T04:24:59.790" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14197" PostId="6864" Score="0" Text="This would be much improved by remove the useless anecdotal  note and adding to some references for the rest of the claims." CreationDate="2016-10-07T08:20:26.740" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14198" PostId="6850" Score="0" Text="I don't understand why this answer is being downvoted. This answer may be partial, but the facts stated in the answer agree with what i observe during training." CreationDate="2016-10-07T09:21:26.783" UserId="7247" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14199" PostId="6641" Score="0" Text="What do you mean by &quot;in debt&quot;?" CreationDate="2016-10-07T09:22:10.547" UserId="7247" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14200" PostId="6864" Score="0" Text="You mean like some science paper about flexibility or a study with several thousands of subjects who tried these exercises for a number of months with precise measurement of how their flexibility improved? Unfortunately I do not have that and I do not think such a thing even exists. All I can come with here are over 20 years of personal trial and error (plus the experience in several dojos), while working on improving my own flexibility.&#xA;&#xA;Pavel Tsatsouline has more details in his books and videos, but no science study either." CreationDate="2016-10-07T09:35:11.287" UserId="7576" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14201" PostId="6864" Score="0" Text="Yes, i mean scientific verification of the method.Personal experience is not evidence that something works or is safe. Thanks for looking into it nonetheless." CreationDate="2016-10-07T09:42:56.090" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14202" PostId="6864" Score="0" Text="If you find any science paper about this, I'd be more than happy to see it, too ^_^. Unfortunately I could never find really effective stretching methods in any science literature, I had to try a lot of ways until finally getting that I do not want to damage the knee ligaments when I try to improve my stretch. Hence the two exercises. Not having the money and time to do a science study, I can only rely on my personal experience. After a month of doing them I could comfortably do a front split, very close to a side split. All at a more advanced age than the person who posted the question." CreationDate="2016-10-07T10:04:50.487" UserId="7576" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14204" PostId="6864" Score="0" Text="[fitness.se](http://fitness.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/stretching?sort=votes&amp;pageSize=15) might have some more information." CreationDate="2016-10-07T11:24:55.337" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14205" PostId="6865" Score="2" Text="Ouch my physics!⸮… [Power](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_(physics)) is the rate of doing [work](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work_(physics)). Mass times speed (velocity) is [momentum](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momentum). It does not change a good answer, just my old pedantic self had to comment." CreationDate="2016-10-07T14:33:00.690" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14206" PostId="6865" Score="0" Text="True in strict terms of physics. Power in martial arts is basically the result of momentum, which produces an effect on a target." CreationDate="2016-10-07T16:50:03.363" UserId="7564" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14214" PostId="6868" Score="1" Text="Possible duplicates of [What martial art should I start with?](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/466/82) and [How to select the right Aikido dojo](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/80/82). Although this question is a little differently focused…" CreationDate="2016-10-12T14:26:22.043" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14216" PostId="6868" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the links, I have already read the first one. Why do you assume I don't want it to be a sport ? If I could sweat a bit while learning to use a katana, it would be great ;) As for the clubs, I just moved in to Paris and I believe I will find pretty much everything nearby." CreationDate="2016-10-12T14:46:44.713" UserId="7591" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14217" PostId="6868" Score="1" Text="Paris a en effet tous les clubes que tu veux ;) I would still look around where you live (less than 30 mins commute) just in case. It is easier to walk to the dojo after a hard day than take three trains…" CreationDate="2016-10-12T14:54:26.853" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14218" PostId="6868" Score="1" Text="... et c'est bien pourquoi je veux profiter d'être là pour tester un autre art martial ;) I already looked up and, unfortunately, the only dojo I can walk to from home is an Aikidô one. But there are some more on my metro line, where I would take less than 30 minutes to go and which do the martial arts I'm interested in." CreationDate="2016-10-12T16:06:28.827" UserId="7591" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14220" PostId="6870" Score="0" Text="There were rules on the battlefield?… ^_~ I thought there was only one: stay alive!" CreationDate="2016-10-13T06:40:17.647" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14222" PostId="6868" Score="1" Text="FWIW, small chance but given you say there's an Aikido dojo within walking distance of home: some Aikido instructors are quite accomplished swordsmen - Aikido has it's own sub-system, and my old Aikido instructor used to run a couple swordsmanship-only classes a week (before he left  Tokyo for Fukuoka)." CreationDate="2016-10-13T16:32:18.070" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14223" PostId="6870" Score="0" Text="Thank you for the information about Kendô it makes me feel like trying ! I think I am going to search for a dojo and give it a try. Karate however doesn't really excite me really much - even for the Kokusai-Butokukai school with weapons." CreationDate="2016-10-13T21:12:44.957" UserId="7591" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14224" PostId="6871" Score="1" Text="So you think it is possible to find a club where I can learn simultaneously Kendô and Iaidô ? Looks like the perfect solution to me. I'm going for some research." CreationDate="2016-10-13T21:14:55.380" UserId="7591" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14225" PostId="6868" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion Unfortunately this dojo is a bit far from where I live ^^" CreationDate="2016-10-13T21:23:35.020" UserId="7591" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14226" PostId="6868" Score="0" Text="@TonyD Well thanks to your comment I checked the Aikidô club I was talking about and indeed, they seem to practice a lot with weapons - as for what I can see in the pictures. But their website is not really clear about this so I think I'd have to go and talk to the sensei IRL." CreationDate="2016-10-13T21:25:50.087" UserId="7591" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14227" PostId="6870" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion - That's pretty much what I meant! While you'd never want to get hit at all in a real fight, it soon becomes a second nature in kendo to barely dodge and purposefully get hit in a non-scoring manner (like moving your head so the strike lands on your shoulder) simply because the rules allow it and it's really efficient. Kendo is a lot of things, but a real life or death struggle is not one of them." CreationDate="2016-10-14T02:11:50.100" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14228" PostId="6870" Score="0" Text="@Ctouw - Didn't mean my answer to sound like an infomercial for that karate school. In the end, my own personal experience is pretty much the only thing I can really offer you, and in this case it amounts to kendo and karate. But do try kendo! It's really exciting, very physical and it really brings out your competitive spirit, all that while learning another culture and how to wield a blade. Most of all, it's fun!" CreationDate="2016-10-14T02:15:25.947" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14229" PostId="6875" Score="3" Text="This is a typical example of what not to do and what not to say online…" CreationDate="2016-10-14T07:12:14.970" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14230" PostId="6875" Score="3" Text="It's also illegal in the UK!" CreationDate="2016-10-14T08:11:23.120" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14231" PostId="6877" Score="0" Text="Please clarify what you mean by &quot;Japanified&quot;. It's natural for styles to change over time and place, but you seem to have a specific idea in mind. Are you referring to naming? Unrealistic self-defense drills? Something larger?" CreationDate="2016-10-14T15:47:30.833" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14232" PostId="6877" Score="0" Text="By &quot;Japanify&quot; I mean codifying and regimantalising karate and therefore limiting it's practical use, I'm not sure if it was sensei Nakayama who started all that or sensei Funakoshi or even earlier as far back as master Itosu" CreationDate="2016-10-14T16:21:15.777" UserId="7598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14233" PostId="6877" Score="0" Text="In my experience, the problem doesn't reside in the &quot;japanification&quot; of the art, but rather on the lack of transition to live sparring. You start slow and telegraphed to work on positioning, technique and muscle memory. Then you go progressively faster until form disappears, and then you integrate it into your live sparring/combat arsenal. Perhaps your instructor is of the &quot;live combat is for higher belts&quot; philosophy? It could explain your experience..." CreationDate="2016-10-14T20:10:00.827" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14234" PostId="6881" Score="0" Text="This. Focus on PT. If you want to do anything else to prepare, practice marksmanship (but this depends on the branch and weapon(s) used also)." CreationDate="2016-10-15T14:48:45.940" UserId="238" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14235" PostId="6881" Score="4" Text="I know the US military has their PT scoring charts online - you can give yourself benchmarks of what you're scored on and what you should be aiming for." CreationDate="2016-10-15T15:10:50.233" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14237" PostId="6882" Score="3" Text="If you want to give me lessons, I'd like to learn. I've just spent my last 25 years as a french military." CreationDate="2016-10-16T14:00:29.123" UserId="7114" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14240" PostId="6882" Score="2" Text="&quot;6-9 weeks&quot; is the period of selection not of buiding. After selection (only based on endurance evaluation), baby commandos are teached in hand to hand and other specialities during monthes. As for history lessons, I don't know your country, so I can no longer chat with you." CreationDate="2016-10-16T14:42:36.143" UserId="7114" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14247" PostId="6870" Score="0" Text="And I didn't want my comment to give you the impression I tought you were advertising for this karate school :D I went to a iaidô lesson on friday, and am going to give a try to kendô as well this week to see which one I prefer." CreationDate="2016-10-17T07:25:50.843" UserId="7591" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14248" PostId="6872" Score="0" Text="Interesting. I'll give a call to the Aikidô dôjô in my street : their flyers show people fighting with bokkens." CreationDate="2016-10-17T07:46:47.630" UserId="7591" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14251" PostId="6872" Score="0" Text="&quot;in my street&quot; - magic words. Having one close to you would be *the dream*, of course." CreationDate="2016-10-17T09:01:49.860" UserId="7343" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14252" PostId="6886" Score="0" Text="How to build such will power?" CreationDate="2016-10-17T09:29:07.580" UserId="7512" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14253" PostId="6886" Score="0" Text="@paul What will power are you talking about?" CreationDate="2016-10-17T09:32:34.317" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14254" PostId="6883" Score="1" Text="The best way of making sure you will keep going to a class. Pick a class that you ENJOY.. then you will want to go every week" CreationDate="2016-10-17T12:01:50.480" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14256" PostId="6184" Score="0" Text="Could you explain the escapes you're describing? &quot;Open the leg of your head&quot;? &quot;Twist your body in direction of your thumb&quot; - which thumb?!" CreationDate="2016-10-18T09:20:52.130" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14257" PostId="6881" Score="9" Text="There is a funny (and true) adage in Russian military &quot;In order to engage in hand to hand combat with an adversary, a soldier must achieve all the following: lose a rifle, hand gun, knife, vest, helmet, belt, shovel, then locate an area without a single stone or stick, find an idiot who accomplished exactly the same and only then engage in hand to hand combat&quot;. So yes, just do PT." CreationDate="2016-10-19T04:56:22.443" UserId="7610" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14258" PostId="6184" Score="0" Text="Maybe AFetter means the hitchhiker escape (#3) and stacking (#4)?" CreationDate="2016-10-19T06:50:44.383" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14260" PostId="6159" Score="0" Text="In my personal experience, sometimes, if you are lucky and your opponent is sloppy, you can rotate your wrist enough to weaken the grip on your arm enough to pull out of it, but that is usually a pretty rare situation.  In a non-sporting environment, a cross body arm bar does tend to leave a juicy bit of leg flesh in easy biting distance." CreationDate="2016-10-19T18:07:18.187" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14261" PostId="6895" Score="3" Text="Depends on the school you choose; a web search for krav maga schools in your area should give you the answer in no time at all" CreationDate="2016-10-20T11:03:37.193" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14262" PostId="6870" Score="0" Text="@Ctouw - Nice! I hope you find something that really suits you!" CreationDate="2016-10-20T13:34:17.850" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14264" PostId="6898" Score="1" Text="So many black belts… Is your son a re-incarnation of Bruce Lee? ^_~" CreationDate="2016-10-21T07:31:50.953" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14265" PostId="6159" Score="0" Text="That's why we are taught to hold the wirst (not the gi) and rotate it until the thump if point to the sky. @Zen_Hydra" CreationDate="2016-10-21T10:10:58.690" UserId="1983" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14266" PostId="6159" Score="0" Text="I once saw a movie starring Schwarzenegger (can't remember the title) when the bad guy apllies a good armlock. Schwarzenegger stands up, lifts the man and bangs him back to the floor ('bate-estaca' in a Brazilian BJJ gym). Seems legit! :P" CreationDate="2016-10-21T10:14:12.577" UserId="1983" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14267" PostId="6897" Score="0" Text="Nice answer, although I know that kids at the age 14 are not training with adults. They have a separated curriculum designed around their abilities ... at the age of 18 they are treated as adults. Of course it may can vary in different organizations and instructor, but the physical and psychological demands of an adult training are to high for kids so why they (most of the big organizations like IKMF, KMG and the American Derivate) implemented the separation . My .02" CreationDate="2016-10-23T07:03:58.180" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14268" PostId="6901" Score="3" Text="This has nothing to do with martial arts. It might be better suited to history.se..." CreationDate="2016-10-23T08:13:28.917" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14270" PostId="6901" Score="1" Text="Stereotypes rarely make sense compared to reality. Suicide shows up more in the stories than actual history. Some historians even believe a lot of bushido was basically a projection backwards from the Tokugawa period, in part because they needed social tools to help control masses of a warrior class w/o actual wars to fight." CreationDate="2016-10-23T15:33:40.783" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14272" PostId="6901" Score="0" Text="I disagree with @Sardathrion here. Who knows where would be jiu jitsu, judo, kendo and aikido without samurai culture." CreationDate="2016-10-23T17:06:04.433" UserId="6162" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14273" PostId="6901" Score="1" Text="Your question isn't how bushido or samurai culture shaped or affected martial arts, however." CreationDate="2016-10-23T17:25:22.853" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14274" PostId="6901" Score="1" Text="Indeed, before thinking about it I would like to better understand bushido. And I thought that martial art enthusiasts would help me much better than historians." CreationDate="2016-10-23T17:42:50.323" UserId="6162" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14275" PostId="6897" Score="0" Text="Yes, that varies from place to place. Many martial arts schools, including KM places, will put 14 year olds in with the adults. There's a reason for that. It's because at age 14, you have the body of an adult, or nearly so. Greater physical power requires greater responsibility. Adult classes are more serious, requiring more self-discipline. The transition from child classes to adult classes is often abrupt, but the instructor will take time to prepare the kids ahead of time mentally and will often hold back students if they seem like they're not mature enough." CreationDate="2016-10-24T03:54:28.530" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14276" PostId="6901" Score="1" Text="The Hagakure should be regarded just as historically accurate on samurai in the same way as the Geste De Roland is to early medieval knights or La Morte dathur is to chivalry. It has no relevance to martial arts whatsoever. The tale in question has nothing to do with martial arts: it's an allegory of how cool it is to commit suicide." CreationDate="2016-10-24T07:38:40.810" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14277" PostId="6905" Score="1" Text="[Are Aikido joint locks harmful to children?](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/4267/82) or the [skeptic version](http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/q/22696/11507) might be of interest." CreationDate="2016-10-24T07:46:50.487" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14278" PostId="6906" Score="2" Text="Understanding historical samurai using the Hagakure is like understanding middle age knights by reading the tale of the round table: maybe not utterly pointless but close to it." CreationDate="2016-10-24T17:22:21.853" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14279" PostId="6905" Score="0" Text="Very true thanks for this. Reason I suggested Aikido is that it is by its nature gentler than Krav Maga at the earlier stages of learning. In Krav Maga, you pretty much just jump into practising it quite forcefully right away." CreationDate="2016-10-25T06:22:29.430" UserId="1985" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14280" PostId="6905" Score="1" Text="The links were just some ammunition for your point really. ☺" CreationDate="2016-10-25T06:48:18.877" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14281" PostId="6907" Score="0" Text="This is a Gazhook awful answer for martial-arts.se… It should be migrated to history." CreationDate="2016-10-25T07:11:19.480" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14282" PostId="6907" Score="0" Text="It would most certainly be on topic in history.se, but that doesn't mean it's off topic here - bushido was integral to life and training for samurai." CreationDate="2016-10-25T11:26:28.077" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14283" PostId="6907" Score="0" Text="@slugster My whole point is that bushido is to samurai what chivalry is to knights." CreationDate="2016-10-25T11:55:29.967" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14284" PostId="6901" Score="0" Text="[Off to meta!](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/461/82)" CreationDate="2016-10-25T12:44:20.600" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14285" PostId="6906" Score="0" Text="[Off to meta!](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/461/82)" CreationDate="2016-10-25T12:44:29.297" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14286" PostId="6907" Score="0" Text="[Off to meta!](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/461/82)" CreationDate="2016-10-25T12:44:32.770" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14287" PostId="6184" Score="0" Text="I add better description with samples." CreationDate="2016-10-25T20:42:06.850" UserId="5818" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14288" PostId="6909" Score="2" Text="It would be helpful to list what organization this is for and to list kyu and dan ranks rather than just numbers." CreationDate="2016-10-26T03:18:58.943" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14289" PostId="6910" Score="0" Text="Can you suggest sequences?" CreationDate="2016-10-26T04:02:34.603" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14290" PostId="6910" Score="0" Text="I would concentrate on being able to hold your own weight off the ground , as low as possible to the ground. This would really involve working though your comfort levels, and slowly accumulating confidence and strength to do any techniques." CreationDate="2016-10-26T05:36:39.040" UserId="1985" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14292" PostId="6911" Score="1" Text="Luckily I found some :) See if it helps!" CreationDate="2016-10-26T07:57:07.880" UserId="7628" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14294" PostId="6914" Score="1" Text="{nods} But won't that just bake in bad habits?" CreationDate="2016-10-28T12:06:11.860" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14295" PostId="6914" Score="0" Text="By bake, you mean outcome as a bad habit? I don't think so the ginga will help create a foundation and your legs will start to shape and adjust t the movement. Of course flexibility plays a big part and yoga is very essential to develop it properly. The 1-hour ginga done by moving to different sides not only same direction will help teach the person how to move, what to do and think Foundation is very important just put some capoeira regional music and ginga to it, . At least best to first try then talk after then you can determine if it is effective enough to be used." CreationDate="2016-10-28T12:12:44.070" UserId="7634" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14296" PostId="6915" Score="1" Text="I think this is the correct answer and should be accepted. It is all about preventing dishonorable behaviour to stain a family's reputation. Seppuku in general was seen as the only means to restore one's honour once you've ruined it." CreationDate="2016-10-28T19:37:48.623" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14297" PostId="2730" Score="0" Text="The chokeholds are at 0:33 and 0:38 (from the front using the thumbs), and 0:42 (with an egregiously mis-applied attempt to execute a rear naked choke)." CreationDate="2016-10-30T08:13:08.673" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14298" PostId="6923" Score="3" Text="An interesting questions and I think certainly on topic. However, I do not think there is such a thing nor am I certain what one would look like due to the skill differences involved…" CreationDate="2016-11-02T12:08:07.703" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14299" PostId="6923" Score="0" Text="Even I thought so.. I just wanted to make sure such a thing doesn't exist. I guess, the answer for my question is situational. (Not sure though) So let's see what our fellow MA users have got to say." CreationDate="2016-11-02T12:21:14.043" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14300" PostId="6923" Score="2" Text="@SahanDeSilva I am pretty sure &quot;effectiveness&quot; is situational as well. I'm also not sure how anyone could objectively measure &quot;effectiveness.&quot; Time to disarmament? Time to incapacitation of one party? Relative damage (and then how do you measure &quot;damage&quot; on a person)?" CreationDate="2016-11-02T14:14:22.587" UserId="6374" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14301" PostId="6856" Score="0" Text="@AndrewMattson: Do not answer in comments." CreationDate="2016-11-02T14:18:35.360" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14303" PostId="6856" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion -  My comment didn't seem complete enough, to me, to be an answer." CreationDate="2016-11-02T14:25:12.990" UserId="7553" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14304" PostId="6921" Score="2" Text="That doesn't mean you were immune to being choked, it meant that that person was not able to apply a choke.  A bit different." CreationDate="2016-11-02T15:39:57.357" UserId="7553" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14305" PostId="6726" Score="0" Text="Even if it were &quot;too late&quot; at some point, that point would not be at 25 years old." CreationDate="2016-11-02T15:43:00.573" UserId="7553" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14306" PostId="6921" Score="1" Text="Yes, it's the semantics. He could choke me using a technique such as rear naked choke, but not some triangles. So the &quot;immunity&quot; would be relative to certain people's ability to apply techniques based upon physiological constraints (e.g. short legs)." CreationDate="2016-11-02T16:14:00.923" UserId="7187" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14307" PostId="6924" Score="0" Text="So it seems situational, but how about the strength of the bullet proofing? For example, how practical it would be for a 'professional' boxer to fight against a 'professional' MMA fighter or a 'professional' grappler or vice versa?" CreationDate="2016-11-03T02:14:53.600" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14308" PostId="6925" Score="2" Text="A coworker's wife took a krav maga weekend intensive a few weeks ago, he mentioned how day 2 involved having a couple of guys snatch up the participants, individually, by surprise when they first walked in, to see what they had retained from day 1.  Obviously, this has potential risk, but at the same time, it is much more controlled than getting jumped in the street." CreationDate="2016-11-03T03:04:44.840" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14311" PostId="6925" Score="0" Text="Well explained.. I know the best way to test the effectiveness of a martial art is to let it face the worst situation. So we'll have to find a way to do so. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and opinions on this." CreationDate="2016-11-03T05:34:32.873" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14312" PostId="6924" Score="1" Text="This seems to be a non-answer. Yes, competency in a martial art is important, and I'm glad you made that point, but you don't put forth any recommended measurements for measuring &quot;practicality&quot; or &quot;bullet-proof&quot;-ness." CreationDate="2016-11-03T05:40:25.510" UserId="6374" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14313" PostId="6925" Score="0" Text="The question is still looking at measuring the practicality of a martial art, not just which one is most effective. For instance, if I choose to say that &quot;Kenjutsu is the most effective martial art&quot; (which is silly), is it practical to carry around a katana all day?" CreationDate="2016-11-03T05:45:23.050" UserId="6374" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14314" PostId="6926" Score="4" Text="While I really like a lot of points in this answer, MMA fails the test of weapons: it uses no knives, shives, knuckle dusters, and so on. It is a one on one sparing sport (no disrespect meant or implied here, quit the opposite) so rules could possible get in the way. Nonetheless, it is a good answer." CreationDate="2016-11-03T08:06:36.997" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14315" PostId="6926" Score="0" Text="You know you can use `#` to do heading to break longer posts?" CreationDate="2016-11-03T08:28:50.373" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14316" PostId="6927" Score="1" Text="Great answer! Love that Bruce Lee's quote and it's true. A 1000 time practiced kick is way more efficient and effective than 1000 different kicks practiced once." CreationDate="2016-11-03T08:56:21.133" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14323" PostId="6931" Score="0" Text="Thanks to clarify&#xA;Warning 2- they want him to come back after the break and learn all the moves again from white, while remaining on green.&#xA;As a side note there was a seminar a month ago the same instructors told us both he would be graded for his blue if he went.(We couldn’t go for family reasons)&#xA;Warning 3– they called it a break,- but to me it sounds like a suspension. I really don’t understand the break, why not teach him if what he is doing is not right?&#xA;I have started to look at other dojo’s, but I feel bad for my uke as we are about 2 months off grading for our brown and white" CreationDate="2016-11-03T13:57:17.787" UserId="5993" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14324" PostId="6819" Score="1" Text="I disagree that the technique is a defense for any kind of punch.  Won-Hyo's punch presupposes the attacker is wrapped up in the double-block (1st movement), then having his elbow smashed (2nd movement), and then punched in the ribs (3rd movement).  The &quot;fixed stance&quot; is a horrible name, but, it is intended to allow forward motion - facilitating the punch.&#xA;&#xA;It can be used for most grabs where defender can lower it to (waist in Kukkiwon's and traditional ITF's case; chest level in modern ITF's case).  So shoulder, elbow, wrist, belt grabs are subject to the chamber, where you take the grab." CreationDate="2016-11-03T13:57:27.507" UserDisplayName="user6519" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14325" PostId="6819" Score="0" Text="In the case of learning the technique - ITF style 2 step sparring uses it as a defence for a fixed stance punch. This may not be realistic to fighting - but you learn the motion, distance, timing and thus application against any belt line attack. The advantage for the attacker here is that they dont have their fingers broken by timing issues going for a grab and they don't get knocked over going for a kick.. It could be anything - even an attack - and defence of a fixed stance punch is a valid and effective way of teaching it," CreationDate="2016-11-03T15:32:34.430" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14326" PostId="6924" Score="1" Text="@PipperChip -  It absolutely is an answer.  I'm saying there is no way to objectively measure that, because it's entirely dependent on the skill of the practitioner.  You weren't asking for a system of measuring, you were asking such a system existed, so saying that it can't accurately be measured is an answer." CreationDate="2016-11-03T16:13:35.913" UserId="7553" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14327" PostId="6926" Score="3" Text="Nice work, but I do disagree with the answer.  Any sport application is not going to be an accurate measurement of &quot;real life.&quot;  If I have a system where I have the best and easiest methods of defending against an attack, but those techniques wind up doing catastrophic or lethal damage to an attacker, then all those techniques would not be allowed in an MMA setting.  Repeatedly kicking a man in the testicles is a great and effective technique.  Doing so in MMA makes you the automatic loser." CreationDate="2016-11-03T16:16:23.027" UserId="7553" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14328" PostId="2731" Score="1" Text="Also there is no way to train your brain to handle a lack of blood flow.  Allowing yourself to get choked into unconsciousness a thousand times would not make you any more resistant to your brain having to blood/oxygen than if you never allowed it to happen.  You can train to protect yourself from it, and you can train to be calm and not react in panic when you feel such a choke being applied, increasing your chances of defending, but, no, you can't increase your tolerance to the effects of the choke." CreationDate="2016-11-03T16:21:50.503" UserId="7553" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14329" PostId="6931" Score="2" Text="While I feel that Sardathrion has covered the main points, I'd also suggest going to them and saying that, if your son is required to take a break, that you'd also like your money prorated for that period. It's amazing how often a place will cave when their income is on the line. And, as you said, you just paid. That's bad faith. They may counter saying that their contract says they can terminate things at any time with no refund, but common sense generally rules in such cases." CreationDate="2016-11-03T16:43:29.200" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14330" PostId="6926" Score="3" Text="The &quot;sport vs. reality&quot; debate has been decided. The sport argument won. People who train in arts that do NOT involve actively resisting, live, and non-compliant partners fail. They aren't even in the same league as MMA people, and it's because they have never been in a position where they have to struggle against an opponent hell-bent on winning against them. That's what MMA training (and BJJ, Judo, Wrestling, Thai Boxing, etc.) give you that arts like Kung-Fu, Ninjutsu, and Aikido don't. It allows you to keep practicing without injury, allowing you to come back tomorrow and keep going..." CreationDate="2016-11-03T17:24:18.303" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14331" PostId="6926" Score="3" Text="... It is actually that fact, that you can keep training while fully resisting but without injury, that gives MMA, BJJ, and so on the advantage over arts that don't do that kind of sparring. Yes, of course kicking to the testicles is wonderfully effective, but only if you're able to deliver it safely. There are many examples of competitions where the rules were so limited that it allowed kicks to the testicles, eye pokes, fish-hooking, nerve strikes, etc. Yet, the same styles came out on top. People from the other arts generally weren't able to even get in position to apply those techniques." CreationDate="2016-11-03T17:29:03.107" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14332" PostId="6926" Score="1" Text="So what I'm describing is a &quot;core&quot; functionality that MMA, BJJ, Judo, Wrestling, and other resistance-based martial arts achieve. From there, you can add your testicle kicks and eye jabs and other things all you want. They just won't be part of the core. The core is what allows them to defend against stuff while delivering damage. On the other hand, they don't even need the eye gouges and groin strikes, and they'll still win. There is the danger of getting into bad habits for self-defense, though. There are many ways sport-based optimization can let you down in a real fight. They know that." CreationDate="2016-11-03T17:34:13.697" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14333" PostId="6923" Score="1" Text="You would have to also assume a certain level of proficiency by the person employing the art. Hard to quantify." CreationDate="2016-11-03T17:38:33.597" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14334" PostId="6926" Score="2" Text="As for weapons, though, they need to be trained the same way MMA trains, with live, non-compliant, fully resisting partners in a way such that injuries are minimized. The Dog Brothers do that. And if you listen to what they say, they're not telling to go back to kata and traditional methods. They're actually saying that they make MMA training their core, but they do modify some of their stances, their strategies, etc. to deal with knives and sticks better. They usually wear armor to protect themselves while practicing. It allows them to use harder contact and go all-out with less injuries." CreationDate="2016-11-03T17:45:22.650" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14341" PostId="6925" Score="0" Text="The practicality is contextual.  What is the most practical thing when you work in a 10 man team armed with rifles is not the same practical thing when you are a 60 year old person using a cane with a bum knee.  However, both types of training can take advantage of training with force, resistance, under duress and appropriate bad conditions, within the limits of safety.  What's &quot;practical&quot; is vastly different based on what you are likely to face, what you can (practically or legally) do, and what your own body allows." CreationDate="2016-11-03T20:29:58.750" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14342" PostId="6819" Score="1" Text="@Collett89, Sorry - respectfully, I disagree.  In JoonGun, the beom-seogi movement does not define getting off the line of attack - a critical element for punch defense.  Also, the chamber hand needlessly sits at the waist (unless the analysis concludes the punch is caught).&#xA;&#xA;I think, the application cannot be for defense against a punch.  The attack need not be a punch; it likely is a grab, there is no reason the attack example should change from a likely scenario (a grab) to an unrealistic one (the punch) just because it might be dangerous to the students." CreationDate="2016-11-03T20:52:24.957" UserDisplayName="user6519" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14343" PostId="6819" Score="1" Text="Also, don't assume an attack begins with a grab; but it may end up as a grab.  Therefore, the timing issues you mention going for a grab wouldn't make sense.  Grabs can occur as a result of the previous movement; or to prevent you from grabbing your own weapon, etc.  Rarely does an attack begin with &quot;here, grab my wrist&quot;." CreationDate="2016-11-03T20:54:16.837" UserDisplayName="user6519" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14344" PostId="6926" Score="1" Text="Nevertheless, there is a huge difference between MMA (sports) and self-defense (properly understood). The latter builds upon martial arts in its techniques, but is definitely not &quot;a martial art&quot;. And you will get beaten up (no armor) in good self-defense training, because it includes conditioning and stress. Self-defense is a &quot;everything is allowed, you are not prepared to fight, you want survive, you have to end the fight as quickly as possible&quot; situation. MMA is a &quot;read and know your opponent, you want to win, there are rules&quot; kind of situation. In other words - totally different training." CreationDate="2016-11-04T00:02:22.443" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14345" PostId="6926" Score="1" Text="That's irrelevant, though. What you're claiming is that because there are rules, MMA fighting can't prepare you for the street where there are no rules. So you want a martial art or a training regimen that has no rules, allows for eye gouges, testicle strikes, real knives that cut for real, no armor, etc. Guess what? That will only mean that you can't train with any realism whatsoever, because nobody will be alive after training that way for a short period of time. What arts like BJJ, Wrestling, and MMA do is to give you the ability to fully resist your opponent while not getting injured..." CreationDate="2016-11-04T03:29:51.180" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14346" PostId="6926" Score="1" Text="... That is important. It means you can get real good at dealing with opponents that are resisting you fully. Without that, if you get in a real fight, you won't know what to do. You'll be a fish out of water. People in martial arts that do not train this way freeze when they get in real fights. Or they try something, it doesn't work, and they don't know what to do now that the guy is on top of them. You perform the way you train. Yes, it requires working with fake knives and allowing show-kicks to the groin on occasion to make sure nobody is optimizing for sport rules to the detriment of..." CreationDate="2016-11-04T03:38:41.357" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14347" PostId="6926" Score="1" Text="... self-defense. And don't mock armor. The armor is just there to give you feedback without injury. That's important. Dog Brothers actually fight each other without armor at 100% force with sticks. People come out with broken bones all the time from their gatherings. Is it necessary? No, but they do it because they want to learn more than being in armor allows them to learn. More power to them. They're crazy. And they're going to tell you straight up that they don't do it everyday. They can't, because broken bones. What they teach comes from that experience, and they still say train MMA!" CreationDate="2016-11-04T03:41:55.170" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14350" PostId="6941" Score="0" Text="The tight grip when you expect impact and the loose one when you move/slide hands is true, but I am more concerned while doing staff forms, or staff basic exercises (such as spins). &#xA;&#xA;I tried searching for some literature, but that is a bit limited. I wanted to know whether there is a general rule while practicing with yourself, but I assume due to the vastness of Kung-Fu such a general rule might not exist." CreationDate="2016-11-04T14:53:27.537" UserId="7416" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14351" PostId="6941" Score="1" Text="Maybe consider modifying your question to be more specific?  If you can link photos or videos of specific movements or transitions, you can probably get better answers." CreationDate="2016-11-04T15:52:41.210" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14353" PostId="6941" Score="0" Text="@surveyCorps  I don't think it matters whether you are practicing the basics, or not. You are constantly transitioning hand position and grip strength throughout most forms." CreationDate="2016-11-04T16:25:20.683" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14354" PostId="6932" Score="0" Text="I think this answer is wrong. It can be both an armbar and a block, and even both at once. But as this fist is drawn back, it is rather ready for a strike, i.e. the incoming punch is directly trapped and put into in armbar in one motion. At least that's what it very much looks like from a judo/karate point of view and I just checked with a karate instructor I find extremely competent in that field (experienced in goju as well as shorin)." CreationDate="2016-11-04T20:36:21.650" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14355" PostId="6932" Score="1" Text="@Philip Klöcking, sorry - I cannot agree.  I am of a camp that does not believe there are blocks.  Nor do I believe that a chambered fist is there to be in ready position.  Both are just wastes of time, to say nothing of a useless tiger stance.&#xA;&#xA;What I'm inferring is that the fist - being in ready position - the incoming attack is automatically put into armbar, which would suggest a one-handed armbar.  This isn't possible, unless the attacker uses an uppercut, since no punch arrives elbow down - a necessary element for an armbar from a technique as pictured.&#xA;&#xA;Maybe you have a video?" CreationDate="2016-11-04T21:12:36.233" UserDisplayName="user6519" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14356" PostId="6932" Score="0" Text="Blocks are parries anyway. Blocking as a term is misleading. Even with a shield you rather parry strikes, as it is simply inefficient to do otherwise. But i can tell you that a) I felt not good ending up in the armbar after a straight chudan gyaku zuki b) it was actually a one-handed one after the hand that ends up pulled back helped channeling it c) it obviously worked, no matter what you think. The presure leads 'outwards', not up, directly on the elbow, and d) it is a basic movement in karate to start punches from there. Stance is to a) buy time and b) equal momentum/evade by movement." CreationDate="2016-11-04T22:12:07.600" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14357" PostId="6945" Score="1" Text="I've started to clean up your question. It would help if you can also remove information that is extraneous like your brother's condition and try to describe what you are looking for in more detail. For example, what is reactive defense? Also, make a list of what you are looking for, and state this list explicitly, preferably with priorities so others can better understand how to answer you." CreationDate="2016-11-05T00:36:39.793" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14358" PostId="6942" Score="1" Text="Hi and welcome to the site. Your answer doesn't make a lot of sense, it seems like more of an attempt to comment. Please take some time to go through [the tour](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour) and learn the way the site works. Thanks!" CreationDate="2016-11-05T06:31:25.493" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14359" PostId="6947" Score="0" Text="If you are looking for a form of distance/at-home learning and can find people to practice with, Kevin Secour's Systema stuff has a good mix of hard, practical defense, core body development in flexibility &amp; strength, and a focus on relaxation exercises. http://combatprofessor1.com/member-home/" CreationDate="2016-11-05T08:16:00.307" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14361" PostId="6940" Score="0" Text="You have written three posts to this question. This site uses a question+answer format; you should consolidate your posts to be  an answer(s). See the [tour](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour)." CreationDate="2016-11-05T16:25:28.053" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14363" PostId="6940" Score="0" Text="In all fairness, there are times when it makes sense to submit multiple answers, especially if they're contradictory (this usually shows up in identification questions), so that it's clear what the correct answer was. However, this is not one of those situations." CreationDate="2016-11-06T20:53:14.393" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14364" PostId="6932" Score="1" Text="I don't really know why we call them blocks, maybe something lost in translation.  The armbar you experienced no doubt worked, I just don't think it is intended for a catch of a moving attack.  But now you mention outward not upward pressure.  Looking at old videos of JoonGun suggest otherwise, but maybe you are referring to a different movement of a different form.  As I see it, an outward pressure would create an elbow bend in a cross-hand arm bar - allowing escape; and a same-side arm bar would invite a nasty hook from the other arm and still allow an elbow bend.  Would love to see video?" CreationDate="2016-11-08T13:21:50.887" UserDisplayName="user6519" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14365" PostId="1925" Score="0" Text="Yes!!  I'm a huge fan of Tom Kurz also.  Incidentally, he has a web site you can use to get his books and DVD's.  Also, there are many articles on the site that describe the stretch physiology in great detail.  A must-read for any martial artist.&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;http://www.stadion.com" CreationDate="2016-11-08T15:18:06.343" UserDisplayName="user6519" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14366" PostId="723" Score="0" Text="Elastic Steel is an excellent system.  He focuses on a hybrid of dynamic, static, and PNF stretching.  His routines can be hard to do, and can be depressing if you are not already flexible.  But, stick with it, he gives great examples of dynamic stretching which are missed in many places.  And, his material focus on martial arts, while others focus on fitness in general.  So, he introduces technique as an adjunct to training.  Great material, I highly recommend, as does my doctor." CreationDate="2016-11-08T15:23:23.670" UserDisplayName="user6519" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14368" PostId="16" Score="1" Text="Do you mean &quot;crumple&quot; (as in scrunch up), rather than &quot;crumble&quot; (turn into crumbs)?" CreationDate="2016-11-10T11:34:35.220" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14373" PostId="6960" Score="1" Text="Fantastic (and important) question, I am often asked things around this topic as an instructor." CreationDate="2016-11-11T14:49:28.223" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14376" PostId="6961" Score="1" Text="It's a community wiki because its essentially a list of expandable points (as you said). I don't really have the vocabulary to take any from bullet to a decent paragraph. When I get worried parents/partners ask about the benefits of taking my class for their loved one those are my go to points (having a female heavy class we have lots of students that have or are suffering verbal/sexual abuse) as a community wiki other users can add their own to this list (there are many more and such a list will never be exhaustive)" CreationDate="2016-11-11T15:27:38.743" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14387" PostId="6965" Score="3" Text="Possible duplicate of [How do I improve my attack speed?](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/869/how-do-i-improve-my-attack-speed)" CreationDate="2016-11-15T14:21:09.107" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14388" PostId="6965" Score="2" Text="No. I mostly want defense speed because I have some good attack speed. But, I would really like to make them both faster..." CreationDate="2016-11-15T14:46:45.863" UserId="7687" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14389" PostId="6965" Score="1" Text="I edited your question to refocus it so it does not get closed as a duplicate. I removed some irrelevant verbiage. As it stands, it is a little short on details which you might want to make the question better." CreationDate="2016-11-15T15:01:41.573" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14390" PostId="6965" Score="0" Text="Possible duplicate of [Defence in martial arts in general](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/6498/defence-in-martial-arts-in-general)" CreationDate="2016-11-15T15:21:09.310" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14392" PostId="5133" Score="0" Text="I came up with a bit more information regarding terminology, martieva." CreationDate="2016-11-16T12:37:34.467" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14393" PostId="6965" Score="0" Text="Ah yes, I was just about to link to my answer, but you beat me to it, Mattm." CreationDate="2016-11-16T15:43:16.710" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14394" PostId="6961" Score="2" Text="Tolerance is an excellent point, particularly when added to the friendships component. Although not exclusive to martial arts I think that physical type activities which are more confronting have an increased effect. That being getting to know those from other races, cultures, religions etc. The fear of the unknown is normal but getting to know someone and see they are normal or just like you or your uncle Frank helps to eliminate that fear." CreationDate="2016-11-17T09:19:14.887" UserId="7692" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14396" PostId="5863" Score="0" Text="It's called kamai, and it's aimed with the tip of the sword pointed at the opponents throat.  It's a defensive stance meant to inhibit the opponent moving in." CreationDate="2016-11-17T17:53:25.927" UserId="6636" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14398" PostId="6974" Score="0" Text="The sound track on that video is just awesome! ;)" CreationDate="2016-11-22T16:31:47.637" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14399" PostId="6974" Score="1" Text="^_^ Quite epic." CreationDate="2016-11-22T17:19:52.403" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14400" PostId="6974" Score="1" Text="To be honest, I was expecting fireworks, pure beams of Ki energy, and lighting bolts!" CreationDate="2016-11-22T17:47:16.260" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14401" PostId="6976" Score="0" Text="Either some version of K1 or san shou rules would be the logical places to start, depending on your desire for throws and wrestling on the feet." CreationDate="2016-11-25T10:59:53.317" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14402" PostId="6976" Score="0" Text="I am thinking no throws, limited grappling/wrestling - to clinch only." CreationDate="2016-11-25T11:35:30.577" UserId="7187" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14403" PostId="6976" Score="0" Text="What's wrong with MMA rules?  They have a very short list of illegal strikes, and a very short list of illegal targets.  All you'd have to do is eliminate the grappling if you insist on &quot;stand up&quot;.  But I'm not sure what your goal is for such a competition.  All rules are fair in all competitions, once you understand what the goals of that competition are.  So in your example, I don't know what you would consider to be fair: that leg kicks are allowed, or that leg kicks aren't allowed." CreationDate="2016-11-25T11:45:26.287" UserDisplayName="user6519" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14404" PostId="6976" Score="0" Text="Nothing wrong with MMA rules for fights. My intention was for a level playing field where martial artists may have just focused on a single stand-up discipline rather then being an all-round MMA fighter." CreationDate="2016-11-25T11:58:14.077" UserId="7187" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14406" PostId="6976" Score="0" Text="I'd have to say that each martial are would have a set of rules specific to it.  You can't say no throws, because then judo is out.... MMA rules are not too bad, but nearly half of all Kung Fu techniques are ruled out by MMA rules (and basically all of Hapkido).  I guess I'm just saying you can't really make a blanket set of rules for all martial arts." CreationDate="2016-11-25T13:16:13.047" UserId="6636" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14408" PostId="6976" Score="0" Text="I guess I still don't understand the question.&#xA;&#xA;If the taekwondo-in feels slighted, then he should get a muay thai coach.  If the nak muay feels slighted, then he should get himself a taekwondo coach.&#xA;&#xA;But I don't understand the need to accommodate those who are untrained for the kind of fighting at a particular tournament.  Maybe I don't understand the question.  Rephrase?" CreationDate="2016-11-25T18:09:45.907" UserDisplayName="user6519" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14409" PostId="6976" Score="2" Text="The question is pooling for opinions and should be closed as off topic." CreationDate="2016-11-27T15:14:23.197" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14410" PostId="6978" Score="0" Text="I know nothing about berimbau or capoeira, so no comment on that side, but perhaps you could treat the hand-crafted berimbau as an artwork instead of a tool?" CreationDate="2016-11-29T14:06:59.810" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14411" PostId="6978" Score="0" Text="Perhaps this thread on reddit will help? https://www.reddit.com/r/capoeira/comments/2poacj/do_you_paint_your_berimbaus/" CreationDate="2016-11-29T14:09:16.283" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14412" PostId="6978" Score="0" Text="@MikeP: :) I guess I'm on the &quot;tool&quot; side of usage. I may just see if I can meet up with the guy and play the instrument to see if the sound is affected." CreationDate="2016-11-29T14:19:30.137" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14413" PostId="6976" Score="0" Text="You are still pooling for bad subjective opinions…" CreationDate="2016-11-30T14:04:52.173" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14414" PostId="907" Score="0" Text="Under general comments, I have frequently had people in Hapkido claim that the Hapkido method of doing a spinning heel kick, dipping the lower body close to the ground as per the Capoeira *Meia Lua Compasso*, has its origins in throwing rocks, namely that the purpose of the kick was as much to keep the opponent at bay while picking up a stone." CreationDate="2016-12-01T17:32:03.927" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14415" PostId="6893" Score="0" Text=":) Is there anything more we can add to answer your question?" CreationDate="2016-12-01T17:33:18.823" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14416" PostId="6981" Score="0" Text="Do you have any experience with other training dummies for comparison? Does your dummy help with attacks on joints?" CreationDate="2016-12-02T11:37:06.070" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14417" PostId="6976" Score="2" Text="Still just seeking opinions for bullshido throwdowns." CreationDate="2016-12-05T00:19:33.753" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14418" PostId="6970" Score="1" Text="False, at least in the US. Assault is anything verbal where the victim feels threatened. Battery is a separate, unnecessary component." CreationDate="2016-12-05T00:24:06.803" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14419" PostId="6970" Score="0" Text="@JohnP one can only feel threaten if physical harm is likely, physical harm is battery and assault is the threat of battery.  Otherwise, all verbal confrontation would be assault under your made up definition." CreationDate="2016-12-05T00:49:02.337" UserId="5930" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14420" PostId="6970" Score="1" Text="Maybe you should do a little research before you spout off. Assault&#xA;Definition&#xA;&#xA;1.  Intentionally putting another person in reasonable apprehension of an imminent harmful or offensive contact.  No intent to cause physical injury needs to exist, and no physical injury needs to result.  So defined in tort law and the criminal statutes of some states." CreationDate="2016-12-05T04:09:28.407" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14421" PostId="6970" Score="0" Text="@JohnP your first sentence of the definition is correct, and your second is a contradiction of the first. The key word being intent, as intending to cause someone to think your about to harm them without actually touching them.  As for as research goes, I have first hand experience with the subject matter and academic." CreationDate="2016-12-05T06:04:32.503" UserId="5930" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14422" PostId="6970" Score="1" Text="Straight from a law site. Take it up with them. No matter how it is intended, if the recipient chooses to interpret it as threatening, then it is. Much like sexual harassment in the workplace, even if the person offended wasn't in the conversation, if they choose to be offended, the violation has occurred." CreationDate="2016-12-05T12:49:24.350" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14423" PostId="6970" Score="0" Text="@JohnP sexual harassment is only tort law, not criminal. Anybody can sue anybody for anything. In criminal law, if there isn't a reasonable expectation that a victim would feel threaten by the behavior of the perpetrator then it's not assault, the key word in common law is reasonable. Also, you've proved my point that you have no experience with the subject matter. Perhaps, you should demonstrate your power of criticism on your sources of information when they contradict themselves, meaning if your going to quote a third party then it should be accurate since in essence your vouching for them." CreationDate="2016-12-05T17:34:40.077" UserId="5930" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14424" PostId="6983" Score="0" Text="That is actually a chinese police officer I believe. I Have seen a longer clip which names her as such. Its more likely to be qi na than aikido for this reason." CreationDate="2016-12-05T18:44:31.313" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14426" PostId="6970" Score="1" Text="They are 3 separate definitions. Not more requirements. And depending on state they are tort and criminal. But i thank you for the erroneous assessment of my intelligence." CreationDate="2016-12-05T19:59:12.690" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14433" PostId="6995" Score="1" Text="So, another 16 questions? I can probably answer those… ☺" CreationDate="2016-12-07T15:55:39.133" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14434" PostId="6994" Score="0" Text="Do you think it would be more effective to narrow the focus of the particular art I'm looking to support, or to narrow the focus of the particular training result I am looking to achieve?" CreationDate="2016-12-07T16:29:16.160" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14436" PostId="6996" Score="2" Text="bonus poijnts for bullet #1 - the role of the left hand.  Excellent." CreationDate="2016-12-07T16:57:16.383" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14437" PostId="6994" Score="2" Text="My goal is to tailor a training regimen towards maximizing my potential effectiveness in unarmed and melee ranged combat. I already regularly do a range of calisthenics and running exercises, and study/practice/maintain several martial arts. I fairly recently learned about and incorporated Indian club and mace training, and now I'm curious about what else is out there that is tried-and-true but unknown to me. However, having limited free time, I want to only incorporate training which supports my current goal of being the best close quarter combatant I can be (for self-edification)." CreationDate="2016-12-07T17:08:17.467" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14438" PostId="6996" Score="1" Text="Also note that the technique illustrated is against a tanto strike; consequently nage has a great deal of momentum to use for kuzushi." CreationDate="2016-12-07T17:20:13.500" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14442" PostId="6994" Score="0" Text="Martial arts are collections of training techniques for combat. How do you decide on which training techniques fit this question?" CreationDate="2016-12-07T22:08:36.263" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14443" PostId="6998" Score="0" Text="Just to confirm, you mean elastic bands or resistance rod type devices?" CreationDate="2016-12-07T22:17:17.997" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14444" PostId="6998" Score="0" Text="I mean elastic bands" CreationDate="2016-12-07T22:24:59.030" UserId="7114" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14446" PostId="6994" Score="0" Text="Do you only want 1st hand accounts recommending practrices or would you take 2nd hand information that lines up with some reported science as well?  There's two things I'm thinking of, but haven't had a chance to personally experiment with them and verify for myself." CreationDate="2016-12-07T22:32:23.430" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14447" PostId="6994" Score="0" Text="@Bankuei  2nd hand information is fine as long as it can stand up to a bit of scientific skepticism. I don't mind putting in the due diligence on a plausible lead." CreationDate="2016-12-07T22:44:58.450" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14449" PostId="6996" Score="0" Text="@MarkC.Wallace Answer edited." CreationDate="2016-12-08T07:49:38.240" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14457" PostId="6998" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion : I've just updated my post to make it **loud &amp; clear**" CreationDate="2016-12-08T15:06:02.747" UserId="7114" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14458" PostId="6998" Score="0" Text="Great! This makes the question much clearer. Thank you." CreationDate="2016-12-08T15:07:32.073" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14461" PostId="6994" Score="1" Text="Can this discussion of whether this question is, or is not, &quot;macho-ism&quot; go to meta?  I don't see it as such, but it would be best discussed there." CreationDate="2016-12-08T17:06:08.483" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14462" PostId="6996" Score="0" Text="Just as a side note: tsukuri is the notion for the crucial movement into the partner in Judo as well (literally meaning &quot;building up&quot;/&quot;construction&quot;). The phases of a throw are (kumi-kata) - kuzushi - tsukuri - kake. Whereas kake basically is only the actual downfall, i.e. happens when all the work is done and success is inevitable." CreationDate="2016-12-08T18:50:05.990" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14463" PostId="6994" Score="1" Text="The nitpicking of this question is strange and uncalled for. This is a straightforward question, and would not be improved by specifying an art (because the answer doesn't change except at the elite level or for niche arts) nor by haranguing the OP about street fighting. (Why that hobbyhorse has been raised here, or to what end, is unclear to me.)" CreationDate="2016-12-08T22:48:15.313" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14464" PostId="6996" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking It's almost like Tomiki knew Judo really well⸮ ⍨" CreationDate="2016-12-09T07:49:00.827" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14465" PostId="6994" Score="0" Text="With the refocus, this is now a good question." CreationDate="2016-12-09T08:32:23.467" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14466" PostId="6996" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion: Sorry, been ignorant of (or forgot about) the background of Tomiki. I like (unlike almost any other judoka I know) the Goshin Jutsu Kata and his take on Aikido as well. I am convinced that there is a great unity/similarity between Karate, Aikido, Ju Jutsu and Judo and the principles of kara, aiki, uke and ju if it comes to deeper understanding and broader application (weapons, strikes, kicks, throws, groundwork, ...) anyways." CreationDate="2016-12-09T09:58:47.617" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14467" PostId="6996" Score="1" Text="@PhilipKlöcking Tomiki was 9th dan judo and studied under Kano for a long time. Kano himself suggested that Tomiki should go and tried this new martial art invented by Ueshiba called Aikido… As for the rest of your comment, I could not agree more." CreationDate="2016-12-09T10:34:51.220" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14468" PostId="7003" Score="2" Text="Uchi-komi can in principle be used for every standing technique (to some extend even for sutemi-waza). It can be used both for developing/correcting certain features in the movement (e.g. hip turn in tsugi-ashi when engaging for ko-uchi-gari, directions of pulling, height-level of the hip, etc.), as well as sheer muscle memory for moving patterns. It in effect is together with tandoku-renshu the equivalent to Kata in Karate (muscle memory, prescision, speed). Elastic bands add pulling resistance and aspects of balance to tandoku-renshu, closing the gap to proper uchi-komi with partner a bit." CreationDate="2016-12-09T15:58:07.993" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14469" PostId="7003" Score="0" Text="Thank's Dave and Philip. I will keep in mind **Uchi Komi** are perfect for muscle memory for moving patterns. I've found this video with interesting elastic bands exercices for **harei goshi** and **o soto gari**." CreationDate="2016-12-09T16:30:48.703" UserId="7114" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14471" PostId="7003" Score="0" Text="@kevinternet: If it is one of the videos I think it is, be careful regarding the height of the hip. Most of the guys in videos out there are too stiff in their supporting leg, meaning that they will have to work with strength rather than technique if it comes to throwing an actual partner, simply because they are not under/behind the gravity center of their opponent. And especially in o-soto, the opening and driving movement with the  forearm holding the lapel is crucial. The rest of the points (rhythm, keeping the bands under tension all the time, etc.) are mostly correct, though." CreationDate="2016-12-10T03:51:40.613" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14472" PostId="7003" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking : but this problem would deserve a post. I make o-soto this way and harei too. In fact I'm affraid I practice judo like a horse and I'm rarely under/behind the gravity center of my opponent. Why because my opponents are 100Kg horse too and never let me go behind with my heap. So I'm looking for having domination with kumikata and then it's easyer to threw o-soto or harei-maki-komi. So I believe elastic bands would fit cows like me." CreationDate="2016-12-10T07:32:39.800" UserId="7114" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14474" PostId="7008" Score="0" Text="Depending on who you ask it can be quite a lot of things, but the most likely is a degenerated form of a hip-throw à la uki-goshi imho." CreationDate="2016-12-10T17:09:04.907" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14476" PostId="7007" Score="1" Text="Thanks for the elaborate answer. Can you please references for the historical development of Shotokan?" CreationDate="2016-12-11T06:51:43.970" UserId="7247" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14477" PostId="7007" Score="0" Text="@zr. I'm a bit busy at the moment, but if I get time I'll cite some sources for what I've wrote. Thanks!" CreationDate="2016-12-11T06:56:37.633" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14479" PostId="7011" Score="0" Text="Sparring is one thing (people can get permanently injured; agreed.). Practicing like the kids in the video I've linked to in my question is another thing (which I'm stressing more on). It's necessary to get a feel of the dynamics of motion, strength and weight." CreationDate="2016-12-11T15:59:15.650" UserId="6623" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14481" PostId="7009" Score="0" Text="The StackExchange network of websites does not have personal messaging (PM). http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/431/any-way-to-send-a-personal-message-to-another-user" CreationDate="2016-12-11T16:36:11.037" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14483" PostId="7007" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand As I've mentioned in my updated question, it is necessary for instructors and students across the world to read your answer. For them to better accept it, they'd want to know your experience in martial arts. If you don't mind, it would be nice if you could mention it." CreationDate="2016-12-12T06:38:51.347" UserId="6623" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14484" PostId="7007" Score="2" Text="@Nav I let my answers show my knowledge level. I don't feel the need to post my lineages, rank, and so on. I dabble. I've studied around a dozen martial arts and have advanced rank in some of them. Jack of all trades, master of none. Haha. My background is: Taekwondo, aikido, Bujinkan, northern shaolin long-fist, Mitsung Lohan Kungfu, southern shaolin, wu / yang / and chen style Taiji, shorin-ryu karate, shotokan karate, Kali, Wing Chun, Judo, and a smattering of others. I've discarded most of it. My current interest is Gracie Jiujitsu." CreationDate="2016-12-12T07:02:49.370" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14490" PostId="7000" Score="0" Text="I suspect the reason for that is that dancers are used to pick up movement patterns and repeat them. Certainly, I noticed the same things as yourself: dancers make for fast progression.  Although, it could mean that gifted individuals excel at both dancing and martial arts. ☺" CreationDate="2016-12-12T15:21:37.823" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14498" PostId="7013" Score="1" Text="@SingleFighter I doubt that. But you can always ask one of the instructors there, they might make an exception for you. In any case, I do not remember the tests being expensive." CreationDate="2016-12-13T10:58:59.853" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14499" PostId="7016" Score="0" Text="I question this: &quot;It should take fewer strikes, with less energy, to disable an opponents knee than it would their thigh.&quot; The knee is a solid joint and is hard to target accurately. The thigh is a big target on which most people aren't prepared to receive strikes." CreationDate="2016-12-13T16:43:30.260" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14501" PostId="7016" Score="0" Text="In practice knees aren't significantly more difficult to target than a thigh is, and the manner of kick used makes a big difference. A wide-arcing low kick to the thigh (as depicted in the OP's linked video clip) is generally easy to see coming and take defensive action against. An oblique kick to the inside of your opponent's knee follows a much shorter path with less time and distance with which to react (especially when coupled with feints and attacks with the upper body). The knee isn't well suited to resisting against the application of violent lateral force." CreationDate="2016-12-13T17:42:43.930" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14502" PostId="7019" Score="1" Text="Boxing certainly has its merits, and is both easy to learn and difficult to master, but it certainly isn't an all inclusive win button. Boxing is primarily a sport, and is as much defined by what it isn't as by what it is. Training in boxing alone will make you better at boxing, but everybody isn't going to agree to Marquess of Queensbury rules. People kick. Learning to use one's legs as a weapon is advantageous, and learning to defend against kicks is even more important (and not taught in boxing).  The same is also true of grappling." CreationDate="2016-12-13T17:52:27.537" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14503" PostId="7008" Score="2" Text="P.O.P. (pissed off parent) stance." CreationDate="2016-12-13T20:33:01.143" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14505" PostId="7007" Score="0" Text="I would be a bit more humble regarding Kata *if it is teached and trained correctly*. Yes, it should be less time of all lessons than 60-90%, especially when still in the grading processes. And yes, bunkai, grappling, etc. should be trained parallely. But it really trains muscle-memory, proper (strong, stable) stance, posture, **breathing**, proper (balanced, stable) movement, etc. better than it could ever be trained in sparring. Hell, before having trained a kata for at least some years with a good teacher, you cannot master it and do it properly so that it benefits in the way it should." CreationDate="2016-12-13T23:01:04.927" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14506" PostId="7007" Score="1" Text="@PhilipKlöcking Yes, I agree that if it is taught that way (with more time devoted to partnered bunkai), then it's useful. Without partnered feedback, you don't get the correction needed for your stance stability you mentioned or your muscle memory. You just get garbage results. Teachers that devote their time mostly on solo kata practice and little to no partnered bunkai are doing a disservice to their students. They should be doing it the other way around. I think that's the point Nav was getting at. I think we probably all agree on this, or mostly agree." CreationDate="2016-12-14T04:35:23.753" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14507" PostId="7019" Score="0" Text="I was going to suggest a front push kick or teep, but looking at the basics then I would not use feet in a street fight scenario. One of the biggest issues with people unaccustomed to fighting is being &quot;shocked&quot; by being hit. Boxing should desensitise the individual to being hit and hitting others. In a self-defence scenario I would personally use elbows, but requires some training and grappling as you mentioned." CreationDate="2016-12-14T10:03:34.520" UserId="7187" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14508" PostId="7021" Score="3" Text="This question looks like a duplicate of [How should a novice train if unable to join a dojo yet?](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/1753/88). If you feel your question is different, can you please explain how?" CreationDate="2016-12-14T10:05:43.950" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14509" PostId="7008" Score="0" Text="@JohnP Ha! I love that! :)" CreationDate="2016-12-14T22:17:39.710" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14510" PostId="7016" Score="1" Text="This is also suspect: &quot;For self-defense it is best to disable an opponent as quickly and decisively as possible.&quot; There are plenty of self-defense scenarios where maiming someone is a bad idea. The dichotomy between sport and self-defense is false in general, but is pointedly so when one considers the many common self-defense situations that aren't life-or-death." CreationDate="2016-12-15T02:38:44.500" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14511" PostId="6970" Score="0" Text="@JohnP All three definitions agree on the requirements of intent, which is a requirement for assault.  Eloquently sidestepping your mistake of believing that intention isn't a component of assault proves your intelligence, as well as not admitting to a mistake shows quality of  character.  Thank you for solidifying my point and the exchange of words." CreationDate="2016-12-15T07:07:03.720" UserId="5930" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14513" PostId="6999" Score="0" Text="If you can read the body language and tension, it basically is just a step forward and a nasty kind of stomp kick into his crouched position while covering the side the kick is expected. This does not take much time and kills his tension and balance." CreationDate="2016-12-15T14:18:56.870" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14514" PostId="7016" Score="1" Text="@DaveLiepmann: While of course proportionality and dynamics of the situation have to be taken into account when speaking about self-defence, I would in general argue that of course you are aiming for the knee instead of the thigh if it becomes dangerous. Simply because all the protecting muscles end above or below the knee and compared to a trained and conditioned muscle, the joint is very fragile. With years of training you should be able to hit at least very near to the knee if you want to, because you know the timing as well (weight-shift on the leg)." CreationDate="2016-12-15T14:26:12.733" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14515" PostId="7020" Score="1" Text="Out of years of experience as an instructor: More than 15 students is impossible to handle and correct if it isn't a group of mixed grades and they work in pairs, over 10 the outcome for the students and the stress for the instructor become rapidly worse. At least if you are alone and want to sustain a good standard." CreationDate="2016-12-15T14:32:29.900" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14516" PostId="7016" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I explicitly stated the kind of stakes where attacking someone's knee joint would be appropriate. I mentioned both &quot;life-and-death&quot; and &quot;life-and-limb&quot; in qualifying my answer. Though, in my experience, there are few situations where violent response is necessary were there isn't significant risk of injury to one's self (or others). Violence should always be avoided when possible, but when it becomes necessary it should be applied quickly and decisively." CreationDate="2016-12-15T15:03:12.753" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14517" PostId="6970" Score="1" Text="Intent is the perception of the subject, not the attacker. If they feel threatened, that suffices." CreationDate="2016-12-15T15:08:09.000" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14518" PostId="7016" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion I'm going to assume you meant to refer to my Answer and not the OP's Question (otherwise you would have commented there instead of here). Self-defense laws vary a great deal by region (country, state, and municipality). Neither the question nor my answer addressed the legality of either a given scenario or course of action. To my eye, no legal advice was asked for, and I have certainly offered none. The effectiveness of a given technique in a given scenario is independent of legal or ethical ramification. A debate of such legalities doesn't belong here." CreationDate="2016-12-15T15:11:12.247" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14519" PostId="7016" Score="0" Text="This answer shows an utter lack of understanding of the law on self defence. While self defence laws do vary, many (if not all) of them take a dim view of one side inflicting permanent damage to the other. More to the point, ignoring the law when talking about self defence is inadvisable at best. **I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV**: *Please consult a reputable legal source in your local for more information.*" CreationDate="2016-12-15T15:17:44.900" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14520" PostId="7016" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion Again, this is not the place for your opinions about the legality of one hypothetical situation or another. You have neither the insight nor perspective to make a meaningful judgment about anyone else's legal knowledge, and as you pointed out -  you are not a legal professional. Everything you have stated here regarding the legality of self-defense is nonsensical and without context, and in most legal systems context is everything. If you can't meaningfully contribute, please refrain from comment." CreationDate="2016-12-15T15:42:49.337" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14521" PostId="7021" Score="0" Text="@Goldname Do you have potential training partners, or are you looking for advice on what you can do on your own? Any advice I can give is largely dependent on the answer to my question above. There are likely to be many negative answers to your question, and while there are many techniques which would be incredibly difficult to master without hands-on instruction there are also many techniques which can be suitably trained without it." CreationDate="2016-12-15T15:49:46.227" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14522" PostId="7024" Score="2" Text="This is my first question. I hope it is an acceptable one." CreationDate="2016-12-15T16:19:46.597" UserId="7764" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14524" PostId="7021" Score="0" Text="@Zen_Hydra I don't have a potential training partner. Could you explain what you think can be mastered without instruction?" CreationDate="2016-12-15T20:39:49.467" UserId="7756" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14525" PostId="7019" Score="0" Text="If any kicks at all, low-kicks (in mawashi- or mae-) to the knee/thigh and the groin are one good way to go in self-defense, as you do not have the high risks of going off-balanced or exposing yourself. Boxing has the big disadvantage of having trained with thick gloves and wristbands. You will probably break your hand/wrist when punching without them and not having learned how to punch properly. Basically, if you can't punch a wall at at least 60% power without injuring yourself, don't even bother to use punches (esp. to the head, the best-protected part of the body) in self-defence." CreationDate="2016-12-16T01:26:44.127" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14529" PostId="7010" Score="0" Text="Thanks for this awesome answer. It made me curious about the meaning of the other Kata moves. Is there a good book or video that covers this?" CreationDate="2016-12-18T05:39:22.910" UserId="7247" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14530" PostId="7010" Score="1" Text="@zr. There are a number of resources available discussing kata bunkai. Type in &quot;bunkai&quot; into Amazon, and you get a bunch of them. I can't vouch for any of them, as I've not seen them... I think the very first thing to do is to ask what are the most common self-defense situations you can encounter in real life. And then ask what classical jujitsu does in those situations. Then look for it in the kata. I talk a bit about it here:&#xA;http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/7006/why-is-more-time-dedicated-to-exercises-and-very-less-for-sparring-is-it-for-th/7007#7007" CreationDate="2016-12-18T07:08:51.173" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14531" PostId="7010" Score="1" Text="@zr. One other thing. Most of the time that I've seen karate practitioners explaining the bunkai of a kata, I am left thinking, no that's not right. They just don't make sense. They're better than the strike/block interpretations, but they don't work in terms of practical self-defense. Sometimes they don't even look like the kata. Since we don't have the original founders' explanations, it's all guesswork. But there's only so many ways to react to self-defense situations, and so if you know them, you can start to see them in the kata. Those other guys are starting with a completely..." CreationDate="2016-12-18T07:16:17.097" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14532" PostId="7010" Score="0" Text="... blank slate, having never studied anything else other than karate. You really do need to cross-train in classical jujitsu if you are to get anywhere with the karate kata. Or find someone who really knows it well and has done all that for you. My thoughts, anyway." CreationDate="2016-12-18T07:17:51.110" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14533" PostId="7029" Score="2" Text="A very nice answer. Thanks for taking the time to write it." CreationDate="2016-12-18T13:16:31.943" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14535" PostId="6970" Score="0" Text="You are correct Sir, Thank You for your input.  Intent is perceived by the Victim, arresting LEO, Judge, ADA, and the Jury beyond reasonable doubt.  All which requires the Perpetrator to project a threat of immediate physical harm(Battery).  Yet, we've become sidetracked from the OP's question that incorrectly referred to a hate crime as some &quot;verbal attacks such as racial slurs, sexual explicit comments, and sexual harassment&quot;, which doesn't even coincide which the OP's link defining a hate crime.  The entire subject matter motivating the OP's question is the result of fake news causing fear." CreationDate="2016-12-19T00:36:53.230" UserId="5930" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14537" PostId="1540" Score="0" Text="In Kung Fu and Karate, the horse stance is you seated on the horse. In Kalari horse stance, you **are** the horse. There are plenty of other animal stances and even a fish stance." CreationDate="2016-12-19T14:28:43.690" UserId="6623" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14538" PostId="589" Score="0" Text="The BBC Documentary series &quot;Way of the warrior&quot; had an episode on it. In case of link rot google &quot;BBC way of the warrior kalari&quot;. [Youtube link](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmt0WTZfKI0)" CreationDate="2013-09-15T17:45:02.697" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14539" PostId="7030" Score="0" Text="Never seen them in Europe nor Japan. Also never felt the necessity or heard anybody ask for it or know anybody who did. Experience between ten and twenty years of competitive Judo up to European Championships." CreationDate="2016-12-19T23:03:01.650" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14540" PostId="7031" Score="2" Text="There are many things I disagree with in this answer, but the most serious is: &quot;Learning to defend well laying face down takes practice.&quot; There is no reason to try to learn to defend well lying face down. The only reason this is effective in contest judo is because referees limit time on the mat to relatively quick progress. In a self-defense situation, if someone tries to defend themselves face down on the ground, you kick them in the head or pick up a weapon to beat them. Even in a contest judo situation, you are better off facing your opponent in a guard position and stalling from there." CreationDate="2016-12-20T00:50:31.147" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14541" PostId="7031" Score="0" Text="@mattm that is exactly the point I'm trying to make here. What is the GOAL? Read the italic part at the end of my answer please. Are you looking for something to defend yourself or are you looking to become a champion in a sport. This has a huge impact on your decision.&#xA;There is CERTAINLY a very good reason to learn to defend well when lying face down. IF you want to win judo competitions. Martial arts are not for street fighting only, you should realize that. Especially not judo, as it is created to be a sport." CreationDate="2016-12-20T09:52:35.053" UserId="7778" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14542" PostId="7031" Score="1" Text="Maybe the problem here is that the question is unclear thus inviting discussion and opinions? Just a thought⸮" CreationDate="2016-12-20T13:08:41.950" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14544" PostId="7034" Score="0" Text="@Zen_Hydra, I think informed decisions are important. I think these exercises should only be done by adults too, as it might have bad affects on bodies that are still growing. I was in my early 20s when I went through this exercise and found that my instructor's guidance was good. This ritual did not do much wear on joints, or conditioning of the joints from what I could tell, however I did find body was desensitized and my bones were thicker (or at least it seemed that way to my sparing buddies when we clashed shins/forearms). I found this training less brutal than other conditioning options." CreationDate="2016-12-20T22:32:32.773" UserId="3154" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14545" PostId="7034" Score="1" Text="On a side note, I consider increasing bone density as a result of pounding on bones bogus (it's a myth, doesn't actually happen). I talk about iron body training here:&#xA;&#xA;http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/3056/arm-toughening-without-losing-sensitivity/3057#3057&#xA;&#xA;And here..&#xA;&#xA;http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/5728/is-hitting-hard-objects-really-effective-in-making-bones-harder/5732#5732" CreationDate="2016-12-21T06:01:38.997" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14546" PostId="6770" Score="0" Text="Sardathrion is right. Here on Martial Arts SE we want questions that can be answered objectively, so perhaps you can edit your question and ask what would be the pros and cons of practicing both arts?" CreationDate="2016-12-21T10:09:58.847" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14547" PostId="7008" Score="0" Text="OMG! Sandan!  I've long forgotten most of my Karate forms after I started Kung Fu.  Where did you find this?" CreationDate="2016-12-21T13:40:38.920" UserId="6636" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14548" PostId="7031" Score="1" Text="We are definitely in disagreement. It may be expedient for contest judo to avoid learning mat techniques and stall for referee intervention by defending from your belly, but this is not something that should require years of training that would be better spent actually learning to defend. I understand there are high-level competitors that do this, but that does not mean it's a good idea. I suggest reading [Learning not to turn your back on ground?](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/2338/5961) and asking a new question if something is unclear. If we simply disagree, that's fine." CreationDate="2016-12-21T16:32:17.700" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14549" PostId="7008" Score="0" Text="See the links to sources in the body of the question" CreationDate="2016-12-22T14:15:36.107" UserId="7247" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14551" PostId="7039" Score="2" Text="`Look to why the bullying is happening, then eliminate that cause.` --- Things started like this, my room-mate continuously disturbed my sleeping and study. I lost patience and called the dorm security. They deescalated the situation and I preferred to change the room. Coz, the nuisancers were four of them and I was alone, and I thought it would be better to change my room for my study. Now, they start to target me in the class. They are doing organized bullying while I ask any question. There is also some problems with my personality. I often ask questions whose answers are too obvious." CreationDate="2016-12-22T23:42:56.940" UserDisplayName="user7783" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14553" PostId="7031" Score="0" Text="I can only say you clearly don't teach children.&#xA;And years of practice doesn't mean they have to do it for 1h every week. It just requires a lot of comments and correction before someone fiiiiinally does it without thinking." CreationDate="2016-12-23T09:37:04.990" UserId="7778" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14554" PostId="7039" Score="5" Text="That sounds like a problem to bring to the attention of the professors or administration. If it's happening blatantly in class, it shouldn't be hard to get an authority to address. Furthermore, while there are times that physical violence is the only way to solve a problem, harassing you in a school class is not one of those situations, and is more likely to result with you being the one in bigger trouble." CreationDate="2016-12-23T17:42:47.950" UserId="698" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14557" PostId="7048" Score="2" Text="Please provide sources for these claims. These assertions are dramatic and contradict public statements from credible authorities." CreationDate="2016-12-26T13:48:29.327" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14558" PostId="7048" Score="0" Text="Mark C. Wallace...here is your asked for citation from an authoritative source.  http://judoinfo.com/" CreationDate="2016-12-27T06:27:58.673" UserId="7790" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14560" PostId="7048" Score="0" Text="@Mark C. Wallace source for the modified form of Judo used by Japanese police departments [link](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiho_Jutsu)" CreationDate="2016-12-27T06:33:20.413" UserId="7790" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14561" PostId="7048" Score="0" Text="@Mark C. Wallace  I would also like to know what  public statements from credible authorities my previous post supposedly contradicts.  I have been a Judo shodan for more than 5 years, which entails having a very firm grasp of it" CreationDate="2016-12-27T06:35:29.543" UserId="7790" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14562" PostId="7048" Score="1" Text="@Mark C. Wallace  I would also like to know what  public statements from credible authorities my previous post supposedly contradicts.  I have been a Judo shodan for more than 5 years, which entails having a very firm grasp of it's history, and as such I would be very interested in your answer." CreationDate="2016-12-27T06:36:18.960" UserId="7790" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14563" PostId="7048" Score="3" Text="You should edit citations directly into your answer rather than leaving them in the comments." CreationDate="2016-12-27T07:08:09.323" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14564" PostId="6773" Score="0" Text="This question seems fine to me.  Some martial arts really DON'T go well together while others are similar enough to complement each other.  (Karate and Shorinji Kempo? forget it!  Judo and Brazilian Jujitsu?  Great!)" CreationDate="2016-12-27T14:11:07.480" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14565" PostId="6773" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion I also disagree about clearly defined goals.  Lots of people who train don't have these.  And &quot;proficiency in both&quot; IS a very well defined goal." CreationDate="2016-12-27T14:17:17.873" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14566" PostId="7048" Score="0" Text="This answer is erroneous on all points. Kano founded judo as a sport -- even OP's link points to it. Both Shodokan and Yoshinkan Aikido are taught to police forces in Japan." CreationDate="2016-12-28T13:53:58.603" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14567" PostId="7048" Score="3" Text="@Sardathrion: Kano did not found Judo *as a sport*. He *used* Judo as a sport to work against the physical decline of Japanese people (in his time in the ministry of education) and to spread his system all over the world. Judo as such is made for education and open combat and - as correctly stated - proved itself against Jujutsu in open challenges with almost no rules but respect for the opponent. One of these *against the best Jujutsu schools in Japan* decided that Judo will be the main art for police forces to learn. I think your comment exaggerates a bit too much just as the answer itself." CreationDate="2016-12-29T14:42:04.527" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14568" PostId="7053" Score="1" Text="In what context is the answer important?" CreationDate="2016-12-29T14:55:27.550" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14575" PostId="6686" Score="0" Text="Geoff Thompson's book &quot;Real punching&quot; is one of the best how-to MA books I've read. Covers boxing, kung fu etc." CreationDate="2017-01-01T13:47:23.110" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14577" PostId="7056" Score="2" Text="Sorry, but it is not about boxing or MA, it is about sports science proving the long-term damages done to joints in training with wrist weights etc. in general, no matter the weight. This is exactly why boxers these days do train with resistance, but in the form of rubber bands and the like, as seen e.g. at 1:43 [here with weights pulling back](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAcDE-sqnN0) (and 8:14 with tyre). I can totally subscribe the part regarding wrist training, though...if you can punch only with bandages, you can't punch properly at all." CreationDate="2017-01-02T15:13:59.057" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14579" PostId="7060" Score="1" Text="In addition to what, it would be helpful to explain why." CreationDate="2017-01-03T13:03:35.190" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14580" PostId="7058" Score="0" Text="So, do you feel it did a good or a bad job at tracking?" CreationDate="2017-01-03T14:03:59.290" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14581" PostId="6686" Score="0" Text="Sure and Geoff explains how to visualize a KM straight punch ... also he could explain chuck norris the roundhouse kick." CreationDate="2017-01-03T19:36:43.520" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14582" PostId="7063" Score="2" Text="+1 for the paragraph about respect: &quot;You start by respecting people you don't know. You maintain that respect until they do something that undervalues that respect.&quot; Spot on." CreationDate="2017-01-04T11:06:25.543" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14584" PostId="7068" Score="1" Text="I've just fixed the bug. Sorry for not being fluent enough in english" CreationDate="2017-01-04T14:19:02.520" UserId="7114" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14585" PostId="7068" Score="0" Text="No worries whatsoever. I've done the same many times." CreationDate="2017-01-04T14:40:03.873" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14586" PostId="6600" Score="0" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it shows no prior research whatsoever, not even a [simple google search](http://www.karatebyjesse.com/meaning-oss-osu-japanese/)…" CreationDate="2017-01-04T16:25:33.823" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14587" PostId="7070" Score="0" Text="Yep. It's the same suggestion that I also can give. Boxing and Kick Boxing would be great. Also putting an effort to learn some taekwondo would be recommended as well." CreationDate="2017-01-05T06:21:39.437" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14588" PostId="7069" Score="1" Text="What is best for you is nebulous and impossible to answer -- hence the vote to close. Could you refine your question to point out what your goals are and what you are looking for: competition, self defence, general why not?…" CreationDate="2017-01-05T08:18:47.507" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14590" PostId="7070" Score="0" Text="It's a personal opinion but I feel as though these arts, Muay Thai in particular incorporates all elements of striking. At the end of the day I don't think it matters what the style is as long as you have a good coach who know what they are talking about" CreationDate="2017-01-05T08:27:00.480" UserId="7816" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14592" PostId="7069" Score="1" Text="Hi and welcome to the site. Please read the help doco [*What topics can I ask about here?*](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic). Your question is closed for now, but if you re-word it we can look to reopen it." CreationDate="2017-01-05T12:21:01.743" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14593" PostId="7071" Score="0" Text="While utterly unrelated to martial arts, this is actually good advice…" CreationDate="2017-01-05T14:50:55.070" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14594" PostId="7074" Score="1" Text="It would be helpful to specify which organization &quot;the instructor&quot; in the third sentence is from." CreationDate="2017-01-05T16:39:00.977" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14596" PostId="7074" Score="0" Text="This post doesn't provide me with any useful information, and just sounds like a biased opinion. Have a look at the upvoted answers for examples of good ones." CreationDate="2017-01-05T20:58:50.347" UserId="57" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14597" PostId="7069" Score="1" Text="You've edited the question but it is still a &quot;what's best?&quot; question. I'd suggest you change it to ask what striking oriented arts will complement your wrestling/grappling MMA practice. You should also include more detail - for example you mention there is no Muay Thai nearby, but what about other arts like karate/hapkido/kung fu/etc." CreationDate="2017-01-05T22:16:14.547" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14598" PostId="7061" Score="0" Text="Practice makes man perfect. Nothing is impossible. Bro try try..practice. You can do it." CreationDate="2017-01-06T04:56:59.637" UserId="7693" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14600" PostId="6600" Score="2" Text="I just provided an answer which does not align with the search results you provided. So please provide a better means of research before criticizing others for not doing proper research. Wishing you all the best and may your Karate bring you satisfaction and prosperity." CreationDate="2017-01-06T09:20:55.367" UserId="7247" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14601" PostId="7075" Score="2" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it has nothing to do with martial arts." CreationDate="2017-01-06T09:21:38.390" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14602" PostId="7069" Score="1" Text="As @slugster says, you edited the question, but haven't included more detail on your goals. Are you intending to compete? Are you training for self-defence, or personal improvement? What do you get out of your current syllabus and why do you want to extend that?" CreationDate="2017-01-06T09:32:37.883" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14603" PostId="7078" Score="2" Text="Could you add links to explain what 'dela river spider' is and to the tutorials you've seen?" CreationDate="2017-01-06T09:34:22.120" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14605" PostId="7069" Score="1" Text="You do not get to re-open the question yourself. The community will vote to re-open it when it deems the question is good. Currently, as has been said, you have not included any goals so it makes the question impossible to answer." CreationDate="2017-01-06T09:43:13.140" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14612" PostId="7078" Score="1" Text="Links added to original post for clarity." CreationDate="2017-01-06T10:03:14.683" UserId="7823" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14613" PostId="1323" Score="0" Text="&quot;If they have high mount you can reverse figure four them.&quot; - do you have a link to a video of this?" CreationDate="2017-01-06T11:16:40.573" UserId="7823" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14614" PostId="2745" Score="0" Text="You might want to try just backing away from them if they do this, once their back comes off the ground it makes using the legs much more difficult for them." CreationDate="2017-01-06T11:55:17.017" UserId="7823" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14615" PostId="7078" Score="3" Text="Possible duplicate of [What drills are good to escape/break Spider Guard?](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/2745/what-drills-are-good-to-escape-break-spider-guard)" CreationDate="2017-01-06T12:59:42.423" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14616" PostId="7078" Score="1" Text="Im not really looking for a drill to pass normal spider guard, I can back away and move to the side to pass this, step on the leg to pin it etc. I am specifically looking to pass dlr spider with a ankle\pant grip on the drl side and killing the entry to single leg x\anaconda guard. Also I am looking for tried and personally tested techniques against good level opponents purple and above with a link to a video possibly if they have one." CreationDate="2017-01-06T13:09:14.623" UserId="7823" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14617" PostId="1956" Score="0" Text="Snoring! Thats a definite sign!" CreationDate="2017-01-06T13:21:49.060" UserId="7823" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14618" PostId="7069" Score="1" Text="I'm agreed that this is too broad/opinion-based as it stands now." CreationDate="2017-01-06T14:19:41.853" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14619" PostId="7071" Score="1" Text="Thanks.  Agreed, not very martial artish.  I don't think martial arts will help the OP anyway, since it will take time - probably more time than the urgency suggested in &quot;witt's end&quot;." CreationDate="2017-01-06T15:23:11.280" UserDisplayName="user6519" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14624" PostId="7075" Score="4" Text="Although I think flips are useless for martial arts, I disagree that this question should be closed. Flips appear in demonstrations of karate, TKD, wushu, capoeira, silat, and other systems normally called martial arts. Although flips may be peripheral to martial arts, they are flashy and a layperson associates them with martial arts because they are demonstrated." CreationDate="2017-01-06T16:14:06.087" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14625" PostId="7038" Score="0" Text="Great advice! I am very sorry you had to go through that nightmare. Hopefully our experiences, and this community will help improve our future." CreationDate="2017-01-06T16:30:55.147" UserId="7416" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14626" PostId="7046" Score="1" Text="I like the idea of sticking together! Realistically might be much more difficult though." CreationDate="2017-01-06T16:34:23.653" UserId="7416" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14627" PostId="7053" Score="0" Text="Why do you need to include only one Sifu?" CreationDate="2017-01-06T16:37:42.473" UserId="7416" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14628" PostId="6394" Score="0" Text="What school of Wing Chun are you part of? There are different ones and no standard system of color." CreationDate="2017-01-06T16:46:36.137" UserId="7416" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14629" PostId="7061" Score="0" Text="What have the doctors said about practicing a contact sport?" CreationDate="2017-01-06T16:48:57.793" UserId="7416" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14632" PostId="7069" Score="1" Text="@Owen When you edit your closed question it enters a queue that more experienced users can see, at this point they can make a decision whether the edits have been sufficient to reopen it. Currently I see one reopen vote, be patient and allow more of the community to see it, someone may edit it even further for you." CreationDate="2017-01-07T00:19:27.123" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14634" PostId="7069" Score="1" Text="The problem with this question is that it provides no real guidance for what you are looking for other than striking but not Muay Thai, which will result in each answerer suggesting whatever striking style they practice and everyone getting in a shouting match. (As you can see, you already have a Muay Thai answer anyway.) To get better answers, you can describe the striking options available, your body type (tall, short, stocky, lean, etc.), why your boxing training has been inadequate, and anything else you can think of that can be used to evaluate answers." CreationDate="2017-01-07T13:20:31.220" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14638" PostId="178" Score="0" Text="+1 for Rory Miller. As mentioned, &quot;Meditations in Violence&quot; is a great suggestion." CreationDate="2017-01-07T16:29:05.680" UserId="7416" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14639" PostId="7095" Score="3" Text="My personal opinion is that civilian self defense ought to be scaled to meet many people's needs, including people with injuries and disabilities, and it is a basic level of competency to consider what training or suggestions one might make for people operating with lessened physical options.  The odds are probably good that even if you can't safely learn ALL the breadth, you can probably learn SOME methods that would help you in self defense, otherwise your doctors wouldn't let you walk around w/o a body brace if you were that fragile. But go get that medical assessment &amp; know for sure." CreationDate="2017-01-08T18:49:09.710" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14640" PostId="7094" Score="1" Text="This answer would be good for the question &quot;Is Krav Maga suitable for civilians?&quot;. But it does not the questions posed." CreationDate="2017-01-08T18:50:11.903" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14641" PostId="7094" Score="0" Text="Good point  @mattm but I am going to leave this in place regardless as I feel that for someone with injuries considering learning to fight it has useful information." CreationDate="2017-01-08T18:58:44.783" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14643" PostId="7075" Score="0" Text="@mattm thank you so much for your support." CreationDate="2017-01-09T04:28:55.553" UserId="7693" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14649" PostId="7097" Score="0" Text="This is indeed how I and all good teachers I was ever taught by do it: from basics to hard stuff. Note that this approach is just good education and is not limited to martial arts." CreationDate="2017-01-09T11:46:22.313" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14651" PostId="7093" Score="1" Text="I endorse the medical part of @Bankuei - anecdotal point though: Suffered a dislocation in my lower back &amp; sciatica at the age of 28 (due to hypermobility syndrome), didn't want surgery, had syringes, physiotherapy, and supplemental core training. The doctor said never again any ball sports, martial arts, or things including running or jumping (so pretty much anything). Three months later I started with light training, more than a year later I still felt if I overdid it, three years later now I can go all out again without repercussions. But running on the risk of it happening again, of course" CreationDate="2017-01-09T13:43:17.913" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14657" PostId="7095" Score="0" Text="Thank you exactly my thought! Unless I am crippled - which I am not, I can go to the gym and by some standards, fitter than an average person - it is simply impossible for me to imagine I am barred from self defense for life.&#xA;&#xA;The medical point is good advise; but I guess even with that it takes luck to find an instructor to take me...? (Assuming the medical professional greenlighted me on practising Krav Maga barring a few specific moves)" CreationDate="2017-01-09T16:41:52.857" UserId="7829" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14658" PostId="7093" Score="0" Text="Yea I underwent almost exactly the same thing as well; syringes, physiotherapies and core muscle training. I am too ignorant to tell if Krav Maga is impractical or not (otherwise I wouldn't need to ask you guys here haha), but I simply refuse to believe that with all that hard work, and by now I am even fitter than an average person by some standard - I am barred from any form of martial art/self defence. Obviously that could simply be my stupid ego speaking though" CreationDate="2017-01-09T16:50:09.893" UserId="7829" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14659" PostId="7093" Score="1" Text="@DanielMak: As I said, my doctor as well argued that in my own interest, I should not continue. I ignored it, endured throwbacks, but learned to listen to my body and stop when I felt it gets too much. Now, I am back in full training again. This could apply to you as well, and you probably should try. But it's always dancing on a razor's edge. That said, Judo plus some kind of Boxing/Muay Thai will take longer, but give your body more time to adapt to the stress. Krav Maga is all about pushing and drilling you from the spot, which obviously isn't what you are looking for." CreationDate="2017-01-09T16:55:31.247" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14660" PostId="7095" Score="1" Text="A good assessment will include specific TYPES of movement you shouldn't do (&quot;Don't twist to the left and down&quot;) which you will be able to tell your instructor.  Armed with that information, a good instructor should be able to give you best options and strategies for self defense.  It shouldn't be that hard to find someone who can help you with that.  The other part is that a lot of instructors (rightfully) don't want to risk serious injury, so the info helps them work with you." CreationDate="2017-01-09T17:11:49.450" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14666" PostId="7098" Score="2" Text="This is a great answer with real wisdom. But a point for context about differences between judo and kung fu training I have seen: judo training is focused around techniques, like a particular throw. Kung fu training can focus on details like stepping in a particular way, and that can be the whole lesson." CreationDate="2017-01-09T23:58:04.653" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14667" PostId="7098" Score="1" Text="@mattm: That is one point I considered as well. The nearest I experienced myself is Karate forms (both kata and kihon) that I myself can repeat over and over again as long as I get corrected. But my take would indeed be that a particular stance or step is just a technique. It is something you can learn in a basic way and then start to build upon with speed, movement, embedding it in a game/partnerwork or combine it with some other stuff the students already know etc. I would argue that although important in some sense to do a whole session only one thing, it makes no sense in this setting." CreationDate="2017-01-10T00:09:46.253" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14668" PostId="7100" Score="0" Text="Great answer! Would argue that as long as it is not training at least 15 hours a week and three hours a session (something very common in Asia, even for university sports!), the fundamentals-first approach is not working well, though. Warm-up, stretching...normally, you end up with effectively one hour per session even if not sparring at all. And the time between sessions is too long as well. But this may be just my feeling." CreationDate="2017-01-10T00:29:07.903" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14669" PostId="7101" Score="2" Text="This question asks for an over broad discussion which we do not do at all. You might be better asking this on a martial art form. Also, not all answer fit one style/school so without more information it is impossible to give you a good answer beyond &quot;it depends&quot; and &quot;[empty your cup](http://www.ashidakim.com/zenkoans/1acupoftea.html)&quot;… Finally, *what concrete problem are you trying to solve?*" CreationDate="2017-01-10T08:57:44.320" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14670" PostId="7102" Score="2" Text="This is a good answer, especially the note about knowing both styles in order to tell you why it's done differently. The rising block in karate comes to mind. Some styles of karate face the forearm upwards. Most face it backwards towards yourself. Why is that? Ask that question of a good karate instructor, and they'll be able to tell you the pros and cons of both ways. If they've never thought about it and have no opinion on it, it means they don't know why they're doing that technique in the first place. Otherwise they would have an immediate answer." CreationDate="2017-01-10T15:53:54.630" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14671" PostId="7091" Score="0" Text="As you're talking about unstringing and restringing, have you thought about how an archer stores their bow?" CreationDate="2017-01-12T10:39:29.067" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14672" PostId="7091" Score="0" Text="That is possible, but it seems like there's a difference in strong materials, whether the string gets removed entirely, etc." CreationDate="2017-01-12T10:55:20.043" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14673" PostId="7104" Score="0" Text="Some school offer two art that compliment each other and will try to not make it confusing if you decide to do both (I would suggest to find that). (for example) If you learn how to punch one way in one class, and an other way in the other, it will be hard to have good form. You might also start questioning a lot of what you learn &quot;here they say this is better but in the other class they say it's not&quot;." CreationDate="2017-01-12T13:10:20.633" UserId="7843" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14677" PostId="7104" Score="2" Text="Possible duplicate of [Karate and Judo?](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/6773/karate-and-judo)" CreationDate="2017-01-12T15:46:58.560" UserId="644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14681" PostId="7109" Score="4" Text="Your doctor thinks being thrown is OK?" CreationDate="2017-01-14T12:30:39.593" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14683" PostId="7109" Score="0" Text="@mattm: Exactly my thought. It is questionable whether someone not allowed to receive punches/kicks is medically clean to be thrown. Another thought: Throws without groundwork is like striking arts without full contact sparring and hitting something with full force - basically useless for the purpose of martial art (read: actual fighting skills). If it's just for moving around, doing something new (intellectual challenge) etc., I think non-combative forms of Aikido would serve best indeed." CreationDate="2017-01-14T15:15:24.217" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14691" PostId="7109" Score="1" Text="1) If you want to lay out best methods for self defense training, set up an appropriate question.  2) If you want to have a conversation, go to chat, not the comments, here.  Please bring back the focus to helping the poster with their question." CreationDate="2017-01-15T02:50:06.647" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14692" PostId="7111" Score="0" Text="Great answer. My doctor said that boxing and kickboxing is a bad idea, but he was fine with football(soccer) so I feel a sport that MAY result in occasional hit to the head is fine." CreationDate="2017-01-15T08:18:08.723" UserId="7849" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14693" PostId="7109" Score="1" Text="@mattm - he said I can do almost any sport - just avoid being hid in the head. It is possible to hit your head when being throw but I am willing to take the chance" CreationDate="2017-01-15T08:22:16.810" UserId="7849" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14694" PostId="7109" Score="2" Text="@PhilipKlöcking &amp; Huw: Guys, take it to a chat room. Comments are not for extended discussion." CreationDate="2017-01-15T11:18:11.320" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14699" PostId="7115" Score="2" Text="Those are for long distance running.  Not for a short sprint you might use to get away from an attack.  Good point though." CreationDate="2017-01-15T14:40:51.690" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14702" PostId="7118" Score="2" Text="Generally, and even moreso in this age, it is all about the trainer, not the art. Look for a trainer that has experience with hyperactivity *and* this age (I, for example, do) and therefore knows how to handle them. In addition, the layout and methodology of the training can differ a lot within one art, again depending on the trainer. There is nothing that prevents you from going around, speaking to people and trying something out. Apart from that, I take this question to be opinion-based, that's why this is a comment, not an answer." CreationDate="2017-01-15T19:12:21.997" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14715" PostId="7119" Score="2" Text="[Are Aikido joint locks harmful to children?](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/4267/82)" CreationDate="2017-01-16T08:15:30.860" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14716" PostId="7107" Score="1" Text="This is good pass, I have not seen the back step to knee bar before, just clamping the head. I will give it a go, the problem is still that spider guard bicep control though because I cant back step if they have that. Do you have a drill\ tech video for killing the entry to single leg x as when I start to free the bicep control a lof the time they step on the mat and kick into single leg x." CreationDate="2017-01-16T08:16:20.080" UserId="7823" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14718" PostId="7121" Score="1" Text="I have already eliminated the other options and thus looking for martial arts as a last resort to burn of energy. &#xA;&#xA;My son - at age 4 - is already in grade 1, he is psycho-metrically tested to be at the upper end of the spectrum. &#xA;&#xA;To calm him down we started with Music; he is not interested and have already excelled in piano without any practice. &#xA;&#xA;I am turning to Martial Arts as an option; if he finds it interesting. Rest of the things with diet and gym play we have already provisioned for." CreationDate="2017-01-16T08:24:29.737" UserId="507" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14721" PostId="7121" Score="2" Text="As I said I have experience with hyperactivity as an instructor (Judo) and although they have special needs, hyperactive children can excel in MA. Yes, they need more attention than the average, bc you e.g. have to allow them to run around the mat two times before sitting down for seiza shortly or have to kneel down and maintain eye contact when talking to them. But these kids *love* rules (pointing them out when others do wrong) and they love activity. As long as the lessons suit children and are not for adults by design (having two instructors for children is better anyway), it can work." CreationDate="2017-01-16T09:09:27.390" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14724" PostId="7121" Score="1" Text="Good to know, Sarvex. Then I was on the right track it seems. And Philip, I think you're getting those results because it's not solo kata/forms. Partnered activity works better, because kids have to work with someone at all times. The only down-side is when the kid has no interest in the class and is only there because a parent made him be there. Then they have a bad attitude and may not work well even with a partner. I agree that Judo is a great idea for kids in general." CreationDate="2017-01-16T15:29:23.517" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14728" PostId="7120" Score="0" Text="What do you mean by safety gear?  Are we talking light MMA gloves or full suits of body armour?" CreationDate="2017-01-16T17:35:27.723" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14729" PostId="7123" Score="3" Text="I am unclear why this is relevant at all. What are you trying to solve by this?  Also,  there is no control group of just normal injuries.  Note that training martial art could decrease the risk and/or the seriousness of normal injury." CreationDate="2017-01-16T18:09:12.927" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14731" PostId="7120" Score="0" Text="Safety gear appropriate to the level of force you are training with.  That may be mouthguards, head gear and gloves, that may be more if you're using weapons." CreationDate="2017-01-16T18:14:45.053" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14732" PostId="7123" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion What is a 'Normal injury' and why would it be a suitable control group for this?  I am trying to establish which martial arts increase the danger of injury and which decrease the danger of injury.  Finding the ones that decrease the danger of injury will be hard (because injuries in assault are rare)  but finding those that increase the danger of injury should be easy by looking at injury rates while training.  We could look at the effect of learning breakfalls on injury rates too I suppose, falling over is common enough." CreationDate="2017-01-16T18:19:14.547" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14733" PostId="7120" Score="0" Text="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9wk2x_XCNQ Are you sure that's enough?" CreationDate="2017-01-16T18:22:41.980" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14736" PostId="7120" Score="1" Text="1) I've already noted in my answer that sports have higher injury rates, so a video showing sports injuries?  2) Please point out where, &quot;must exclude all possibility of any injury&quot; is a requirement of your question, OR, something I claimed would happen as opposed to a goal, in my answer?  Shifting goalposts is not honest engagement." CreationDate="2017-01-16T18:35:49.363" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14737" PostId="7120" Score="1" Text="These are people wearing &quot;mouth-guards head gear and gloves&quot; and not using weapons.  Yet injuries are happening.  Your answer is good, I'm just calling into question the idea that high intensity training will reduce risk if safety gear is used." CreationDate="2017-01-16T18:42:32.750" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14738" PostId="7123" Score="1" Text="Variation in style,  school,  and teacher might be more significant than per art. Also, competition will skew the statistics." CreationDate="2017-01-16T19:32:28.427" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14739" PostId="7123" Score="1" Text="True enough. But that is no reason to ignore what information we do have." CreationDate="2017-01-16T20:47:10.080" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14740" PostId="7124" Score="0" Text="This was a UK question. But thanks anyway." CreationDate="2017-01-16T20:48:28.833" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14741" PostId="7120" Score="0" Text="Please address both points, actually." CreationDate="2017-01-17T01:34:41.323" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14744" PostId="7114" Score="3" Text="Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been [moved to chat](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/51925/discussion-on-question-by-huw-evans-for-what-martial-arts-is-the-chance-of-being). Please carry it on there, and be nice :)" CreationDate="2017-01-17T07:33:41.050" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14745" PostId="7122" Score="1" Text="This would be a great answer to a question that has not been asked yet, perhaps about the goals of judo training, or the relation between sport and judo. To this question, it's tangential." CreationDate="2017-01-17T13:37:04.843" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14746" PostId="7123" Score="0" Text="The overriding injury concerns when being attacked are things like death, permanent impairment, or long hospitalization. I fail to see how a comparison of the minimum legal definition of assault in the UK and the minimum injury report criteria for a martial arts school is relevant to those major concerns." CreationDate="2017-01-18T22:36:08.887" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14747" PostId="7123" Score="0" Text="Sorry I should have made that clear. There are different kinds of vocabulary used in uk courts. Assault is any non consential contact, actual bodily harm is minor injury caused by assault but still serious enough to justify a longer sentence. Grievous bodily harm is a step more serious than actual bodily harm and covers anything short of murder. Sexual assault is measured on a different scale. So while we could look at any of these sentence catagories separately this is the minimum we will have data for." CreationDate="2017-01-18T23:16:17.770" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14748" PostId="7123" Score="0" Text="Needless to say thats a bad place to stop, but it is a good place to start looking." CreationDate="2017-01-18T23:17:37.377" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14751" PostId="7127" Score="0" Text="There is no shortcut on the way to greatness. Even professional fighters training with their personal trainers and having experience in grappling arts take years to reach a black belt - which in martial arts normally does not mean &quot;great&quot; but &quot;knows the basics sufficiently&quot;." CreationDate="2017-01-19T01:19:41.447" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14755" PostId="7127" Score="2" Text="If you modify your question(possibly asking a few different ones) on specific aspects you'd like to work on, people will be able to give more meaningful answers.  For example, what are you currently working on?  What do you see others doing that you'd like to get yourself up to working on?  Those are good places to start." CreationDate="2017-01-19T04:48:13.377" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14757" PostId="7127" Score="0" Text="**Can you please *stop* answering in comments? The site needs questions and answers (even if short ones), not ephemeral comments.**" CreationDate="2017-01-19T08:46:47.293" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14760" PostId="7134" Score="1" Text="Good point about the kata; basically one way of consciously controlling the diaphragma and some are probably designed for exactly this purpose (especially sanchin)." CreationDate="2017-01-19T14:00:02.293" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14761" PostId="7133" Score="1" Text="I honestly was not expecting it to actually be that old." CreationDate="2017-01-19T14:45:18.617" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14764" PostId="1005" Score="0" Text="You can see a [demonstration in this video from the Practical TCC](https://youtu.be/h1SDlRmYk-Y). &#xA;&#xA;@DaveLiepmann as Dave N. says, the defenders R controls, possibly grabs the attacking R. It can also pull the attacker forward, onto the head punch by L." CreationDate="2017-01-19T20:29:45.387" UserId="7869" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14765" PostId="7134" Score="1" Text="I wish I had better instructors long ago.  Too bad many don't cover topics like this!" CreationDate="2017-01-19T20:36:01.637" UserDisplayName="user6519" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14766" PostId="7107" Score="0" Text="Good question, @berimbolo. I think the single leg x is defeated quickly by addressing it directly. As in the full X, attack the foot. The single butterfly hook behind the knee (the single leg x) should be gripped just above the big toe knuckle at the end of his foot (across the entire foot for a good grip). Even the threat of a footlock will &quot;change the subject&quot; quick enough for you to buy time for spinning to the kneebar. Regarding the spider biceps control, check out my technique here: http://www.bjjtech.com/tech/316. I found this by going to http://bjjtech.com and searching for &quot;spider&quot;. :)" CreationDate="2017-01-19T21:49:59.147" UserId="7524" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14773" PostId="7139" Score="1" Text="If the downvoter could explain what i can improve in my question, that would be great. Does my Q not show research effort? Is it unclear? Is it not useful despite the fact a huge part of martial arts rely on inflicting pain to stop an attacker? Please enlighten me, i am extremely curious!" CreationDate="2017-01-21T09:05:07.747" UserId="7461" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14774" PostId="7140" Score="0" Text="I intentionally focused solely on the effectiveness of some attacks, without mentioning any details about the setup. E.g. a friend was [interviewed](http://nononsenseselfdefense.com/interview.htm) by a 2m tall +100kg junky, that probably was holding a knife inside his pocket. Unfortunately, in that specific setup positioning and structural damage are rather impossible without receiving lethal blows (perhaps taking him off-balance might work). This is why I focused only on those specific attacks." CreationDate="2017-01-21T09:48:28.690" UserId="7461" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14775" PostId="7140" Score="0" Text="_&quot;Very few things are pain only&quot;_ - Not sure about that. Perhaps most aren't &quot;pain only&quot; but when it comes to MMA fights or street fights (or fights where the enemy can feel pain), pain is a crucial factor, and can affect the outcome. E.g. low kicks or any kicks below neck level, will **usually** not cause any structural damage or control. They simply inflict pain; which makes them (probably) ineffective against intoxicated individuals." CreationDate="2017-01-21T10:07:43.133" UserId="7461" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14776" PostId="7140" Score="0" Text="1. Pain is an unreliable, factor != never a factor.  However, your question involves people who are resistant to pain.  2. &quot;If you are pulling from a movement form to deal with actual fighting, you deal with positional control and/or structural damage, depending on how far the art has moved from the original goal.&quot; in combative practices, low kicks are set ups, not &quot;fight finishers&quot;.  3. street fights often go to ground bc it's an easy way to gain stuctural control or break someone against the ground." CreationDate="2017-01-21T15:26:34.313" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14777" PostId="7139" Score="0" Text="Adding in a knife to the question changes the situation drastically.  I'll set up a new answer." CreationDate="2017-01-21T15:28:21.690" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14778" PostId="7139" Score="0" Text="@Bankuei I guess the &quot;note&quot; part of my Q should have been there in the first place; didn't do so in order to keep it more generalized. I apologize for the inconvenience. Perhaps, .. instead of deleting your A, we could do something like create a new Q and revert this one to its original form or something? If you think we could (or should) do that, let me know." CreationDate="2017-01-21T15:40:43.053" UserId="7461" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14779" PostId="7139" Score="0" Text="What do you think will better fit your needs?  I'm currently trying to add an edit to my answer to give you the extra context now.  It... makes my answer a little disjointed, but eh, I can live with that." CreationDate="2017-01-21T15:44:06.960" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14780" PostId="7139" Score="0" Text="@Bankuei As long as effectiveness of mentioned attacks is mentioned (and perhaps other more effective alternatives), i m good (mechanical dmg is a good alternative). But it's not about me; i'm mostly interested in posts that won't confuse future visitors.  If you think an edit will suffice (that is, not make it too confusing), go for it.  (have to go, will be back in 1.5 hours)" CreationDate="2017-01-21T15:49:17.200" UserId="7461" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14781" PostId="7140" Score="0" Text="If you're looking for specific styles to train, or videos with examples of &quot;here's X type of knife attack, here's Y solution for it&quot; feel free to put up another question." CreationDate="2017-01-21T16:44:36.383" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14782" PostId="7140" Score="1" Text="I've watched [Marc MacYoung's vid](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQNeXMlSMOw&amp;t=1s) regarding knife attack/defense. I ll look up the cloth-lock; sounds promising. A question solely about videos might be off-topic, and more suitable as  answer or edit to other existing knife questions." CreationDate="2017-01-21T18:02:22.480" UserId="7461" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14783" PostId="968" Score="0" Text="qi gong exercises.  isometrics, rolldowns, carry tiger, spiral left and right, and standing like a post. Lots and lots of standing like a post.  Never enough standing like a post." CreationDate="2017-01-21T22:13:15.507" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14784" PostId="7142" Score="1" Text="Just throwing in something (as I am not proficient in boxing styles) from a bodymechanical standpoint: I would consider using the hip and the stretching of the back (both two main sources of power in general) - rather than mere rotation - as important." CreationDate="2017-01-21T23:01:41.807" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14785" PostId="7142" Score="0" Text="So one of the main exercises I am doing already involves lots of cycles consisting of rotational movements that involve core/hip muscle development. I will add those details into the post! Thank you for your reply." CreationDate="2017-01-21T23:03:52.833" UserId="7873" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14786" PostId="7145" Score="0" Text="Ok. Thanks for that information. But, i learn every movement of some martial such as taekwondo(yellow belt), silat(blue belt) and karate(green belt). I know about possible movement that will happend. There is not many movement. But the direction will victim do make the movement looks many. And now my question is, how we can know where the direction can he do. Where there are so many 1/2 *phi* r^2?" CreationDate="2017-01-22T07:04:58.467" UserId="7874" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14787" PostId="7145" Score="0" Text="Sorry if i ask a very very crazy question. I can do something because i know the theory. And Math is something beautiful for me. Sorry for that" CreationDate="2017-01-22T07:07:07.367" UserId="7874" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14798" PostId="7146" Score="0" Text="I tried this routine yesterday, I already started feeling a good difference in my hook. Thanks a lot Tom." CreationDate="2017-01-22T15:47:46.053" UserId="7873" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14806" PostId="7142" Score="0" Text="What is your stance? Orthodox or Southpaw?" CreationDate="2017-01-23T03:21:40.447" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14808" PostId="7142" Score="0" Text="@SahanDeSilva Hey Sahan, thank you for your response. I am an orthodox stance." CreationDate="2017-01-23T05:11:19.773" UserId="7873" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14810" PostId="7130" Score="0" Text="Sorry I couldn't find anything more authoritative." CreationDate="2017-01-23T10:50:49.623" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14811" PostId="7130" Score="1" Text="@SeanDuggan No problems whatsoever. Yours is the best answer so far." CreationDate="2017-01-23T10:58:43.903" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14812" PostId="7154" Score="0" Text="Downvoting without mentioning why makes sense!" CreationDate="2017-01-23T13:02:05.687" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14814" PostId="7153" Score="0" Text="Not that I know off. You might find photos in [Scott's book](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aikido-Randori-Reconciliation-Opposing-Forces/dp/1861264984/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1485186731&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=scott+allbright) but to be honest, I do not remember if there are some." CreationDate="2017-01-23T15:52:51.760" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14815" PostId="7154" Score="0" Text="Hey Mitro not sure who down voted. I would like to see an explanation as well." CreationDate="2017-01-23T19:40:57.647" UserId="7873" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14817" PostId="7154" Score="0" Text="Hey I meant I'd like to see why you got down voted. Not sure why you did." CreationDate="2017-01-23T19:46:14.673" UserId="7873" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14819" PostId="7142" Score="0" Text="I have a little knowledge on boxing, so am not gonna put an answer, but I guess, your front leg (left leg) and turning your hip clockwise should generate enough power to throw a powerful left hook." CreationDate="2017-01-24T04:20:56.057" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14820" PostId="7140" Score="0" Text="Just adding two cents to the part of the conversation regarding pain tolerance of an enemy, one technique that always works, when it lands right, is a ear slap with a cupped hand.  It effects the control of balance, meaning if the enemy can't stand, walk, or run, you'll have a chance to get away." CreationDate="2017-01-24T06:00:28.850" UserId="5930" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14825" PostId="7154" Score="2" Text="And now we have a good answer. Thank you." CreationDate="2017-01-24T10:21:55.650" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14826" PostId="7153" Score="0" Text="Found [this one](https://youtu.be/d2GrsliD4rQ?t=518), but I will not judge it for Aikido purposes, as in Judo, we learn it from and for different movements. I find the back arm a bit strange, but the staying straight (no turning/twisting) is something I find important." CreationDate="2017-01-24T12:04:33.703" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14827" PostId="7158" Score="0" Text="Err… Your title and the question in the body do not really match." CreationDate="2017-01-25T08:24:32.993" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14828" PostId="7114" Score="0" Text="There is a [meta discussion about this question](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/466/82)." CreationDate="2017-01-25T08:25:33.287" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14829" PostId="7158" Score="0" Text="Hmm... my intent was to have both reflect &quot;are the majority of injuries in people returning to the martial arts after a break?&quot; Can you suggest how I might clarify the body?" CreationDate="2017-01-25T10:47:53.870" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14830" PostId="7157" Score="0" Text="I feel like there is likely a case somewhere of an earlier usage, albeit possibly not featured, since the martial art has been around since the advent of film, but I have not figured out a good way to search for it." CreationDate="2017-01-25T10:49:46.403" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14831" PostId="7158" Score="1" Text="I think you have two questions here: One is &quot;Is an injury more likely after returning to training after a break?&quot; and the others is &quot;Does the practice of martial arts removes some of the natural inhibition to to protect joints and muscles?&quot; … Or something like?" CreationDate="2017-01-25T10:56:43.917" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14833" PostId="7158" Score="1" Text="The braking is nicely explained in this comment: http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/2362/can-i-be-bulky-and-fast-at-the-same-time/2592#2592&#xA;&#xA;I suppose during a break, muscles get shorter again, but mentally you'd try to still reach as far as before the break, resulting in pulled muscles (as explained in this comment: http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/648/is-static-stretching-before-practice-beneficial-harmful-or-something-in-betwee/2628#2628)&#xA;&#xA;Mind you, this is all just speculation from my part. All I'm going on, are two comments and putting one and one together." CreationDate="2017-01-25T13:37:51.593" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14842" PostId="7161" Score="0" Text="What are you looking for in an answer aside from yes/no?" CreationDate="2017-01-26T02:39:06.667" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14843" PostId="7161" Score="0" Text="well maybe some life experience story, also how to do it in real life, because accident is happen in a flash" CreationDate="2017-01-26T06:10:40.300" UserId="7872" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14844" PostId="7161" Score="3" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is asking for a discussion, not facts. A forum would be better suited to this." CreationDate="2017-01-26T07:30:20.867" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14847" PostId="7161" Score="0" Text="I know of three incidents where dangerous situations ended up without anything more than few scratches (two myself, one gf; two cycling, one on stairs). But all included several years of experience beforehand." CreationDate="2017-01-26T10:51:06.963" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14850" PostId="7161" Score="4" Text="A better question might be *how* to train toward using it unconsciously in an everyday situation. If you only train your *ukemi* as &quot;If they use technique A, use breakfall B&quot;, you're probably not going to think of it when you trip instead. There's a guy who used to tour the country, teaching technique at nursing homes with a progression that got people to react properly as soon as they felt themselves losing their balance." CreationDate="2017-01-26T13:08:32.227" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14851" PostId="1077" Score="0" Text="[Why ice delays recovery](http://www.drmirkin.com/fitness/why-ice-delays-recovery.html)…" CreationDate="2017-01-27T08:59:52.287" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14852" PostId="7139" Score="0" Text="The plexus part confuses me. Getting hit there hurts, sure, but to my understanding (and experience, being on the receiving end once), it's not the pain that matters there. It's that getting hit hard enough on the plexus will make your ribs grab your lungs, like vice grips, reducing breathing to very short, choppy gasps for a minute or so. No matter how drunk and how much drugs and how many pain killers you take, those ribs will squeeze the capacity out of the lungs for a while when the plexus gets hit hard enough." CreationDate="2017-01-27T09:54:45.697" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14853" PostId="7139" Score="0" Text="@Raf True. And the hit to the neck can cause a person to collapse regardless of pain tolerance (or at least that's that i've read). I intentionally mentioned those despite pain being a minor factor, since i wanted to help/guide the answerers." CreationDate="2017-01-27T10:47:44.337" UserId="7461" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14855" PostId="7165" Score="1" Text="On a side note, there is a discipline that can help train for that sort of falls outside of stunt schools, parkour. Since you often are travelling at higher speeds, you do learn to re-orient yourself to reduce injury." CreationDate="2017-01-27T14:12:12.103" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14856" PostId="7173" Score="0" Text="Do you by chance have a video or an article on the correct form/technique that I could use to mimic the uppercut movement?" CreationDate="2017-01-28T14:23:11.247" UserId="7873" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14857" PostId="7173" Score="0" Text="Sure, there are plenty of them but here is a sample ... http://www.sneakpunch.com/sneakpunchtv" CreationDate="2017-01-28T18:36:39.367" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14858" PostId="7173" Score="0" Text="Thank you sir I'll try these in a few hours. I don't think I'll find a tire anywhere soon haha. But will update the post." CreationDate="2017-01-28T18:40:06.623" UserId="7873" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14859" PostId="7173" Score="0" Text="Welcome, if this description is not enough, let me know ... I'll try to find something different if needed :-) btw. I ve built a tire hook bag myself and it is of great value." CreationDate="2017-01-28T18:42:05.843" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14860" PostId="7173" Score="0" Text="I'd have to buy another pair of gloves.... I feel like the treads from the tire will rip them up... no?" CreationDate="2017-01-28T18:43:46.167" UserId="7873" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14861" PostId="7173" Score="0" Text="Yep, also wrap your hands properly. You could probably wrap something around the hard parts of the tire too at first." CreationDate="2017-01-28T18:51:18.483" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14863" PostId="4455" Score="0" Text="The 168 pound class has a very high rate of brain trauma and death. Not sure why" CreationDate="2017-01-29T06:45:42.330" UserId="7897" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14864" PostId="7142" Score="0" Text="As a general note for both punches and kicks, move back a joint back. If your punches are weak, can you hit with your elbow? If not, with your shoulder?" CreationDate="2017-01-30T15:27:13.697" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14868" PostId="7182" Score="2" Text="I would like to add emphasis to Sardathrion's statement about it being entirely up to you how you decorate your own home. Seriously, the only opinions which should matter in this case are one's own and those of anyone you share a living space with." CreationDate="2017-02-02T14:13:43.653" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14869" PostId="2830" Score="0" Text="There are many martial arts with bushin ryu in the name can you be more specific ? Bushin just translates to martial thought or something to that effect." CreationDate="2017-02-02T22:57:19.930" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14870" PostId="7183" Score="0" Text="Thanks again mitro! By the way your tire idea is great.. I ended up using the tire on the back of my jeeps. Didn't need to cut it in half but I can practice punches to the body." CreationDate="2017-02-03T04:15:50.507" UserId="7873" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14874" PostId="7185" Score="0" Text="You are largely correct with respect to the North American derivatives of this art. The Pacific and European variants are far more closely aligned with the traditional Okinawan and Japanese arts - (in a very small nutshell) their technical focus is on knowledge and mastery of bunkai and tuite. Disclaimer: I know the author of this question very well and the question is a little deeper than it appears - I will post an answer here sometime in the future, a good answer would be at least a book chapter in length :)" CreationDate="2017-02-03T11:15:15.147" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14875" PostId="7185" Score="0" Text="BTW, comparing the Pacific variants of this art with Krava Maga is like comparing a rusty middle ages broadsword (Krav) with a katana made by a master craftsman (Bushin Ryu) - they are worlds apart :)" CreationDate="2017-02-03T11:17:12.570" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14877" PostId="7175" Score="0" Text="If you're a Bond villain, [very](http://www.3dtotal.com/interview/711-from-rome-to-a-mouse-cinesite-spectre-by-trevor-hogg-vfx)" CreationDate="2017-02-04T10:12:43.617" UserId="7900" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14878" PostId="7189" Score="0" Text="Did you get an allograft? And to confirm, you were kicking with your non operational leg (i.e. pivoting with your operational leg) at 7 or 11 months?" CreationDate="2017-02-04T20:51:55.723" UserId="4352" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14879" PostId="7189" Score="0" Text="I luckily had a hamstring graft. It makes to note that allografts are not the same as they are donated, but it will be fine. Studies show that Allografts may impede you but after time (5 years) there is no difference rather than a change in range of motion. I was pivoting on the operation leg after 11 months because I'm not a super athlete or anything, I was doing standard Muay Thai teeps and roundhouses 7 months after. http://www.arthroscopyjournal.org/article/S0749-8063(01)52643-2/abstract?cc=y=" CreationDate="2017-02-05T07:48:54.867" UserId="7930" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14880" PostId="7189" Score="0" Text="Could you summarise the content of the two links you provided. Links only are subject to rot and thus not really useful. Thanks." CreationDate="2017-02-06T08:41:19.377" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14883" PostId="7140" Score="1" Text="Additionally, it depends on the drug they have taken (If they have). PCP is infamous among first responders for completely blanketing all pain. I've personally seen a man hopped on PCP with a broken arm cuffed to a cop he was dragging around, being beat on by other cops and still raging." CreationDate="2017-02-06T16:32:18.273" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14884" PostId="947" Score="0" Text="@DavidH.Clements Edited my answer because you were right, my rapier-based reasoning was faulty." CreationDate="2017-02-06T17:49:49.843" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14885" PostId="7192" Score="0" Text="Incidentally, I found a promotional video where it demonstrates this, albeit only for a moment:&#xA;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YmTkpUw1sk&#xA;Warning, NSFW. Language." CreationDate="2017-02-07T05:34:34.103" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14886" PostId="7193" Score="1" Text="I agree. It looks like a side-step drill like the one you linked to. It should be covered in karate, yes. It may not be in any specific kata, but it should either be taught or learned on ones own for sparring." CreationDate="2017-02-07T05:37:44.287" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14887" PostId="7194" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site! I edited your question slightly to make it more on point. Could you provide some details of what equipment and space (if any) you have access to?" CreationDate="2017-02-07T07:38:11.993" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14889" PostId="7192" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand: Ah yes, about 43 seconds in. Good catch." CreationDate="2017-02-08T11:14:57.803" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14890" PostId="7194" Score="0" Text="Hi! Thanks! I've got a pretty good setup st home- a wave master and a reflex bag (on a stand), plus plenty of room to work on a triangle-drill etc. Thank you." CreationDate="2017-02-09T00:53:03.477" UserId="7936" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14891" PostId="7194" Score="0" Text="Can you edit your question to add those details please?" CreationDate="2017-02-09T08:17:22.000" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14892" PostId="7197" Score="1" Text="Are you looking for techniques in a particular style (e.g. karate, taekwondo, boxing)? What have you tried, so far? What research have you done already? Do you have any experience of martial arts? Are there any limitations (e.g. physical or financial) we should take in to account?" CreationDate="2017-02-09T14:38:43.307" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14893" PostId="7197" Score="0" Text="No physical limitations ,i just wanted to get a technique to improve my reaction speed and rate of hit,i would be happy if u can provide with any" CreationDate="2017-02-09T14:43:53.153" UserId="7952" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14894" PostId="7198" Score="0" Text="Thanks for answer but is there any,i meant technique to do self improve because i am studying and i would not be able to devote that much time that too in india so i just wanted a lookover process if there then give" CreationDate="2017-02-09T14:59:43.333" UserId="7952" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14895" PostId="7198" Score="0" Text="Like I said, _I don't know of any drills you can do on your own_. Most of the drills I know require another person to train with. You can't learn to fight effectively without having someone to fight! (There are other questions about self-training on this site that will put the same point)." CreationDate="2017-02-09T15:04:32.893" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14896" PostId="7197" Score="0" Text="Most martial arts aim to reduce reliance on reaction time either by maintaining a large enough distance that attacks can be read (karate, aikido and so on) or by staying in constant contact with the opponent so you can feel what they do (wing chun, judo and the like).  Some use a combination of the two.  (SPEAR/PDR self defence).  Reactions are unreliable, good stances, technique and strategy is less so." CreationDate="2017-02-09T15:12:05.847" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14897" PostId="7198" Score="0" Text="This sounds dangerous and counterproductive." CreationDate="2017-02-09T15:13:06.603" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14898" PostId="7198" Score="0" Text="@HuwEvans can you expand on that, please?" CreationDate="2017-02-09T15:20:58.380" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14901" PostId="7197" Score="0" Text="I talk a lot about reaction time in the answer here: http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/6501/1555&#xA;Part of the equation is &quot;guessing&quot; what your opponent will do next, based on body language tells. Your brain has to be programmed to recognize this. Reaction times alone won't save you, though it is a good question. No doubt there are ways of improving reaction times beyond recognizing patterns. But the two are so interrelated that you can't ignore either." CreationDate="2017-02-09T15:52:39.173" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14912" PostId="7202" Score="0" Text="This doesn't answer the question. Please read it again and see if you have an answer." CreationDate="2017-02-10T12:01:05.633" UserId="57" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14913" PostId="7201" Score="3" Text="What stance are you doing, and what technique? Heck, which kata and form of Karate while we're at it? :) And what's your favorite color? What's the average wingspeed of an unladen swallow?" CreationDate="2017-02-10T15:17:51.937" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14916" PostId="7201" Score="0" Text="Sounds like a basic proprioception issue-once you can make *yourself* aware of the issue you can fix it yourself. It could also be a flexibility issue. Focus on your feet and their connection to the ground." CreationDate="2017-02-10T23:41:27.227" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14918" PostId="7202" Score="0" Text="its answer, i try to give the diff between wtf and itf based  on historically side" CreationDate="2017-02-11T08:59:19.823" UserId="7955" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14919" PostId="7202" Score="0" Text="In my question I wrote &quot;Are there differences in technique or style that would make this a difficult transition&quot;" CreationDate="2017-02-11T10:30:27.533" UserId="57" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14920" PostId="7195" Score="0" Text="Thank-you for your advice. I sparred last night &amp; tried to move away from attacks I could see (that's a whole other issue) but I guess I'm not pivoting enough- instead of moving to 90 off the attack in a stance, I was just sort of sidestepping but not enough to avoid the techniques. I'm working on not trying to block everything- I had bad defense as a gup then overcompensated, so now I get faked plus I'm taking too much contact when I fight high ranks. I will work on stances at home and set up some lessons with my master instructor to work on this. Thank-you very much for your help. :)" CreationDate="2017-02-11T16:40:10.907" UserId="7936" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14921" PostId="7208" Score="3" Text="This isn't a medical forum. Cramps can be caused by any number of mostly minor and some dangerous medical conditions. The fact that you say this happens invariably, and presumably you've been doing it for a long period of time, means something potentially serious might be happening here. I would make an appointment with a sports medicine doctor (MD) if you could. They'll want to rule out some of these serious causes and may offer suggestions on how to avoid it in the future." CreationDate="2017-02-12T05:29:15.350" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14923" PostId="7208" Score="0" Text="Thanks. I will try to post my question on a body-building forum to ask some [exercises](http://bodybuilding.com/fun/wotw50.htm) to ramp up the calf. (But I would have preferred to dodge the use of machine)" CreationDate="2017-02-12T16:06:49.550" UserId="7957" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14924" PostId="7211" Score="0" Text="Thanks. Going to class more is a good  idea, I will think about it." CreationDate="2017-02-13T06:16:02.533" UserId="7957" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14925" PostId="7205" Score="0" Text="Randori (乱取り) translates as free style practice. Shihai (試合) translates as match or bout. Both are related but utterly different. Amalgamating both shows a lack of understanding of free play. BTW, kyousou (競争?) is competition, again something different." CreationDate="2017-02-13T08:43:19.540" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14926" PostId="7201" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan African or european swallow? &#xA;I have updated my question to reflect style and katas." CreationDate="2017-02-13T10:05:06.697" UserId="6415" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14927" PostId="7206" Score="0" Text="How low should the chin be? Right down on your chest, or just below 'normal' position?" CreationDate="2017-02-13T12:38:04.143" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14928" PostId="7206" Score="0" Text="I had to think a lot about how to define normal!  I think the best is to have the chin at a level at which the head balances on the shoulders without any muscle support.  If the head rolls forward, the chin is too low.  If it rolls backward, it's too high.  You want it where it doesn't move either way.  Similarly, you don't want the chin jutting out for a reach.&#xA;&#xA;I think there will always be the odd exception in your forms somewhere along the lines.  But this is a good start, I think, that covers most cases without too much subjectivity." CreationDate="2017-02-13T12:53:00.587" UserDisplayName="user6519" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14929" PostId="1700" Score="2" Text="Can I double-check exactly what block you're looking for? The [Seido Karate syllabus](http://www.seidokarate.co.nz/Syllabus.pdf) doesn't list 'kiwase uke'. Could it be 'Kakiwake uke' you're after?" CreationDate="2017-02-13T12:58:42.773" UserId="7900" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14931" PostId="7212" Score="0" Text="In my understanding it is *toshu* as different from *tanto*, i.e. free-handed attacks (and counters) versus knife-attacks. Therefore, it comes down to simply randori again, isn't it?" CreationDate="2017-02-13T20:17:53.963" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14932" PostId="7205" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion According to [a considerably long post here](http://www.e-budo.com/archive/index.php/t-53613.html) kyousou is competition in the sense of strive for the upper hand in a wide sense, whereas contest in martial arts context would rather be *shiai*. Tomiki used kyousou, though, possibly because it was rather conceptualised as a form of randori (fitting the whole aiki principle) and Ueshiba condemned *shiai*, as mentioned in an earlier post there." CreationDate="2017-02-13T20:42:54.647" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14933" PostId="7212" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking Answer edited." CreationDate="2017-02-14T08:15:48.730" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14934" PostId="7205" Score="0" Text="Okay, we are reaching the limits of my limited Japanese here. [I asked  a question about this…](http://japanese.stackexchange.com/q/43511/6910)" CreationDate="2017-02-14T08:29:59.403" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14936" PostId="7215" Score="0" Text="Your last two paragraphs are problematic: Anecdotal evidence is utterly worthless especially when combined with fantastically hyperbolic claims…" CreationDate="2017-02-14T11:56:48.990" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14937" PostId="7217" Score="0" Text="Ah. Good. That's how I'd been doing it, but there was a part of me paranoid that I was going to mess with the tension in some way." CreationDate="2017-02-14T13:31:13.873" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14938" PostId="7195" Score="0" Text="Hard to say what your problem is.  But beginners often have this difficulty because they spar reactively.  Meaning, their offenses are opportunistic and their defenses react to what's thrown at them - usually a block.  Their stance locks them into the floor, so they have less mobility.  If this describes you, then work on being light on your feet; be able to move freely into any of the 8 primary directions (so, 10:00 / 2:00; 3:00 / 9:00, 5:00 / 7:00, and 6:00 / 12:00 oclock positions.  First two move behind and to the side of your opponent; next move to the side; next back and to the side." CreationDate="2017-02-14T15:54:06.307" UserDisplayName="user6519" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14939" PostId="7195" Score="0" Text="6:00 you slide or step back, and 12:00 you slide or step into your opponent.  These are all done using stances and steps.  The lighter you are, the more you can achieve them.  Once you are comfortable moving around, next is to throw a technique after moving; or throwing a technique and then moving.  After that, work on feints and creating openings.  These last two are advanced concepts you shouldn't try until you are good at moving around.  Once you can move around, your blocks become &quot;just in case&quot; movements - or they can support counters.  An advanced topic, so just learn to move comfortably" CreationDate="2017-02-14T15:58:15.673" UserDisplayName="user6519" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14941" PostId="7219" Score="0" Text="Your axis is an imaginary line from the top of your head downwards. It's comparable to the axle of a wheel, but vertically. Being &quot;out of axis&quot; means you lean forward, backward, or sideways." CreationDate="2017-02-14T17:38:22.907" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14943" PostId="7219" Score="0" Text="A specific part of bad posture, but it roughly comes down to that, yeah" CreationDate="2017-02-14T19:12:03.810" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14946" PostId="7222" Score="0" Text="Thank you so much! Still having a bit of trouble processing all the different types of kicks and their Intentions&#xA;&#xA;I asked my instructor recently, I'm learning WTF, which I was kinda worried as I hear alot about TKD not being effective in Self defense. Is that a common misconception? &#xA;&#xA;Compared to other arts like Jiu-Jitsu or Boxing it may not have much effect but its so addicting like you said! Defintely glad I signed up." CreationDate="2017-02-14T20:15:21.520" UserId="7961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14947" PostId="7222" Score="0" Text="Also have been learning forms, my instructor has taught me the main white belt form up to the highest step which I believe is up to 16 steps? And ive begun learning the yellow belt form which encorporates the Front Snap kick between punches..I learn fast is my only saving grace but flexibility sucks lol!" CreationDate="2017-02-14T20:17:04.883" UserId="7961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14950" PostId="7221" Score="4" Text="Please take the [tour](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour). StackExchange uses a question-answer format that is different from forums. Good questions are focused enough that answers can be evaluated rather than simply discussion." CreationDate="2017-02-14T20:46:08.757" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14951" PostId="7222" Score="1" Text="Sounds familiar! :) If you're doing WTF I am guessing you are learning the Tae Guk forms. Our school is an ITF school so we learn a different set of forms but our black belts have been learning the Tae Guks, too, for growth. I like them but probably won't be much in the way of help since I'm just learning them myself. As to effectiveness in self defense, I hope I never have to find out. We work combos for defense, designed to quickly disable or control, which is different than sparring. I definitely feel more secure or confident that I could fight off a bad guy, &amp; I genuinely love what we do." CreationDate="2017-02-14T20:55:59.257" UserId="7936" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14952" PostId="7224" Score="0" Text="Thanks so much, thats very informative. Its funny how I've mostly been interested in the Japanese culture, but decided to learn TKD instead of Karate. Always loved the gracefulness of the Kicks. I'm sure in the higher level once the art is mastered it can most definitely be used as self defense, but as you said right now I'm just enjoying it thoroughly and i will definitely refrain from getting involved with the politics.&#xA; Also in question to your bad instructors,my instructor is very knowledge and completes each exercise but it seems that some students there I kinda wonder how they got there" CreationDate="2017-02-14T21:28:21.890" UserId="7961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14953" PostId="7224" Score="0" Text="Am I wrong to think that way? I dont necessarily assume black belt=super bad ass, just wondering what mentality should be had! Thank you again" CreationDate="2017-02-14T21:34:27.657" UserId="7961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14954" PostId="7224" Score="0" Text="No - not at all!  Your mentality should be to focus on what the instructor tells you to do - don't worry about what anyone else is doing.  For all you know, those other students are transfer students from another school with different standards.  You are right: blackbelt != bad-ass, but many people think that. Just a simple google for &quot;crap martial arts&quot; should settle the score LOL  However, that they are black belts, you should definitely use them as a resource to help where ever you need it.  They're not masters, they don't know everything, and the better ones will tell you that." CreationDate="2017-02-14T21:40:30.847" UserDisplayName="user6519" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14955" PostId="7224" Score="0" Text="And as anyone in any martial art style can attest to, there are some who wear a black belt and suddenly, their brains are... shall we say... &quot;big&quot;.  But by and large, those who wear the black belt have met a standard set by the school.  If you trust that school, then, those students are to be commended, they worked hard to get where they are." CreationDate="2017-02-14T21:42:12.903" UserDisplayName="user6519" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14956" PostId="7225" Score="0" Text="This question makes no sense whatsoever. Could you please clarify what your problem is?" CreationDate="2017-02-15T08:11:58.513" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14957" PostId="7219" Score="0" Text="For some movements, it is. For some, it isn't. I'm always working on stretching, to make sure, and got decent &quot;gong lì&quot; as it's called (basically a combination of muscle strength, flexibility, and balance). I know that if I kick high, out of my reach, it happens, but that's to be expected. If I kick within my reach, I sometimes do so as well, and am utterly unaware of it. The mirror is a good way to become aware of it, but won't fix it in fluid motions. Any way to take care of it in those is what I'm asking here." CreationDate="2017-02-15T09:34:38.993" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14958" PostId="7223" Score="1" Text="I can't find anything. And it seems most people are using a description of the form that says he was 27 years old in the 14th century when he was killed. Actually, it was the 16th century, and he was either 28 or 29 years old if you use the actual dates of his birth and death. So something isn't right about the history. Either way, there appears to be no connection between 52 and this form that I can see at the moment. Puzzling. I wonder if General Choi happened to be 52 years old when he created this form?" CreationDate="2017-02-15T22:44:50.517" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14959" PostId="7223" Score="0" Text="After thinking about it some more, I suspect 52 could also be how many weeks he was in prison before being killed. Don't know for sure." CreationDate="2017-02-16T03:00:48.300" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14960" PostId="7223" Score="0" Text="Yes, sir- thank you. That's a good thought about the weeks in prison- that would be possible. Thank-you for looking. Whatever I settle on, I'll just say it with confidence. :) Thanks!" CreationDate="2017-02-16T03:55:47.793" UserId="7936" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14961" PostId="7217" Score="0" Text="I think much more important is the temperature and humidity in which you store the instrument :)" CreationDate="2017-02-16T06:27:05.160" UserId="7960" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14964" PostId="7230" Score="1" Text="The tai chi teacher actually did that once. He had each and every one of us step up, one by one, and tape it with his phone, then showed it to us afterwards. That's how I first saw that yeah, I do lean over, even though it felt as if I wasn't. It's a great way to become aware of the problems, as it takes one limit of mirrors away. With mirrors, if you move away from the mirror, or along with it, you can't actually check yourself without compromising the form, due to having to turn your head to check the mirror. With video camera, you can see afterwards that you did indeed screw up." CreationDate="2017-02-16T08:43:54.617" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14965" PostId="7228" Score="0" Text="I thought my initial question was clear enough that I train in two styles, one of which involves sparring. I notice the problem being there too, as it limits reaction speed. If you lean over, you need to get back up straight before you can do the next move. This is a significant cost in time. That's why I see it as a general problem, not a tai chi-specific one. The book idea is great for the steps, btw. I'll practice that this evening!" CreationDate="2017-02-16T08:46:33.020" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14968" PostId="7230" Score="2" Text="I'm suggesting a way to examine the problem so it can be fixed." CreationDate="2017-02-16T11:51:08.180" UserId="7936" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14969" PostId="7219" Score="0" Text="☹ I was trying to make your question better and getting disheartened I bothered." CreationDate="2017-02-16T12:49:13.030" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14970" PostId="7219" Score="0" Text="If there are parts that can be improved, I'm all for it. In the end, that in itself is the entire point of martial arts, striving for improvement. That's also what drives this question. If you don't mind, how can we improve this question?" CreationDate="2017-02-16T13:03:42.477" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14971" PostId="7223" Score="0" Text="Rather than guessing or lying, you should try first to ask your instructor if he knows. Tell him you've looked, and so far nothing pops up. You can say your best guess is that it might be the number of weeks in prison, but you don't really know for sure. That's being honest, and sometimes that's more important than being correct." CreationDate="2017-02-16T17:11:49.227" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14972" PostId="7223" Score="1" Text="Yes, sir, I wasn't implying that I mean to lie. It is a good-natured pressure that he pushes me with and I will present him with all the options I have so far discovered as he will tel me the correct one.  He just wants me to make an effort." CreationDate="2017-02-16T21:30:41.310" UserId="7936" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14973" PostId="7228" Score="0" Text="I don't understand precisely what you mean by leaning. Non-verticality by itself is not recognized as a problem by all systems. My understanding of Wu style taiji is that it is willowy, with deviation from vertical normal. In the bagua I have studied, the default fighting stance has the torso pitched slightly forward from the hips and is used for basically all fighting, so there is no getting back up straight. My personal out-of-axis problem is the hunching of my upper back, which it sounds like is not your worry." CreationDate="2017-02-16T22:03:35.577" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14974" PostId="7219" Score="2" Text="You can improve clarity by stating what body part(s) deviate from what axis. I think the axis you have in mind is a vertical axis through the head and spine perpendicular to the ground, but you don't actually state this explicitly anywhere, and I don't think this should be inferred. Perhaps an alternate way to formulate this is to state which joint(s) you are leaning from, for example the ankles or hips or vertebrae." CreationDate="2017-02-16T22:12:42.923" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14975" PostId="7225" Score="1" Text="In order to progress, it helps to understand where the starting point is." CreationDate="2017-02-16T22:24:47.587" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14976" PostId="7223" Score="0" Text="Awesome! Then I think you're going to be fine. And if you do learn of the answer, please follow up here with the answer. You can actually answer your own question below. That is not an uncommon thing to see here." CreationDate="2017-02-16T22:40:38.557" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14977" PostId="7223" Score="0" Text="Yes, sir, I will. It is a fun challenge that he gets me with... my first class as a 1st Dan, I knew the names and the number of moves for the forms, but not the info, so he said I couldn't work on my new forms that night. I made sure I knew about them my first class as a 2nd Dan. Then he asked for more, but he did allow someone to work with me that night. Keeps it fun! Thank-you for your help!" CreationDate="2017-02-16T23:24:13.697" UserId="7936" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14978" PostId="7225" Score="0" Text="First of all, hats off for taking this decision at that age." CreationDate="2017-02-17T03:59:49.923" UserId="7693" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14980" PostId="7219" Score="0" Text="It does make sense that, even though to me it's clear what I mean, other people may be confused about which axis and how the leaning relates to it. I'll adjust the question accordingly. Thanks for clarifying!" CreationDate="2017-02-17T11:17:17.180" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14981" PostId="7228" Score="0" Text="The hunching used to be a problem when I first started. Living at desks and on bikes tends to do that. One of the first things shifu told me, was to push my shoulders backwards and down, and explained why. I did, for three days and three nights. Hurt like hell, but it caused permanent improvement." CreationDate="2017-02-17T19:36:29.240" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14982" PostId="7226" Score="0" Text="I would like to contact this man you talk of and perhaps get some info from him is that possible" CreationDate="2017-02-18T00:34:25.233" UserId="7963" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14984" PostId="7226" Score="0" Text="Many thanks for your interest I am from the Edinburgh area is that near yourself" CreationDate="2017-02-18T00:39:23.107" UserId="7963" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14986" PostId="7231" Score="2" Text="Do you want to be good at Muay Thai, boxing, and grappling individually, in and of themselves? Or are you training in those things just because you believe it will help you in your ultimate goal of doing MMA? Because, the answer to that question is needed before advising you." CreationDate="2017-02-18T23:56:58.357" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14987" PostId="7231" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand Yo are absolutely right, I updated the question." CreationDate="2017-02-19T16:28:45.560" UserId="7980" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14993" PostId="7231" Score="0" Text="I edited your question quiet heavily. Hopefully, it makes it an easier read and better structured. Let me know if I have changed things too drastically for you…" CreationDate="2017-02-21T10:07:34.107" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14998" PostId="6723" Score="2" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it shows no prior research whatsoever." CreationDate="2017-02-23T08:12:15.720" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="14999" PostId="4614" Score="3" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is too localised and shows no prior research whatsoever." CreationDate="2017-02-23T10:20:55.313" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15001" PostId="7249" Score="1" Text="This does not answer the question." CreationDate="2017-02-24T08:40:39.227" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15002" PostId="7246" Score="1" Text="Why is this a decent product? Currently, your answer reads like a bad spam post." CreationDate="2017-02-24T08:42:44.557" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15003" PostId="7249" Score="0" Text="There is no exact answer to this . Compare Bruce Lee 33 with Ip man 79 ." CreationDate="2017-02-24T08:47:23.550" UserId="8005" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15004" PostId="7249" Score="0" Text="**Anecdotal evidence is *utterly worthless***. If you want to prove the null hypothesis, then you still need evidence." CreationDate="2017-02-24T10:08:30.663" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15005" PostId="7249" Score="0" Text="I was not born during their Era to measure their ages neither I carry their Birth &amp; Death Certificate . Everyone knows Bruce Lee died young and you refer tons of Websites where you can find the dates." CreationDate="2017-02-24T11:29:46.903" UserId="8005" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15007" PostId="7250" Score="2" Text="Calm liquid means that you are not subjecting the cup to sudden acceleration. It's quite easy to have terrible posture and not slosh liquid in a cup." CreationDate="2017-02-24T15:23:59.027" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15008" PostId="7241" Score="0" Text="As videos can be taken down or otherwise become unavailable, this answer would be greatly improved by including a summary of the Gracie mat DIY method." CreationDate="2017-02-24T15:24:45.403" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15009" PostId="7250" Score="0" Text="Aw crap. I was thinking if I lean forward, the liquid will tilt forward too. If I lean sideways, the liquid will lean sideways too. If I walk fast, the liquid will slosh if I'm all over the place. Back to the drawing board, I guess" CreationDate="2017-02-24T15:37:48.383" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15010" PostId="7211" Score="0" Text="You might also want to look at adjusting your potassium levels. Cramps can be a sign of to little or to much vitamin k. When my levels are off it usually manifests in my calves." CreationDate="2017-02-24T23:15:04.697" UserId="7956" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15011" PostId="2805" Score="0" Text="Wing chun created for street fights. Not for cage or rings. If you will really understand what is wing chun, your idea will change. I am practitionerof wing chun more than a year and i just started to understand what is real wing chun.  You cannot judge it just from videos in youtube or go to wing chun gym for a few months." CreationDate="2017-02-26T08:07:27.750" UserId="8020" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15012" PostId="7198" Score="0" Text="I edited your answer to make it flow a little better. Let me know if I erred and trashed some of your meaning." CreationDate="2017-02-27T09:19:00.500" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15013" PostId="2805" Score="0" Text="@yucelbayram yeah I bet you've never been in a real fight though." CreationDate="2017-02-27T10:42:56.630" UserId="1475" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15014" PostId="7249" Score="0" Text="[**Anecdotal evidence is *utterly worthless***](http://imgur.com/Is6FV5R)" CreationDate="2017-02-27T14:24:39.307" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15016" PostId="2805" Score="0" Text="Every martial art is great. Its depend on a master and your physically, mentaly talents. If you believe wing chun is useless. Just could be useless for you. Thats my third martial arts experience. Every sports give a different angle to look how to fight. Its good thing to become a complete fighter. Sorry but this street fight question is just childish." CreationDate="2017-02-28T07:38:54.320" UserId="8020" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15017" PostId="2805" Score="0" Text="@Funky By the way agreed with you about punching airs and trainings without sparrings, you very well explained that part." CreationDate="2017-02-28T08:09:56.787" UserId="8020" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15019" PostId="7251" Score="0" Text="The boxing school where I trained teaches to dodge not by leaning with the upper body, but by using the legs. No leaning back as well, the trainer teaches to jump back with your entire body. They put a lot of emphasis on footwork as well, constant movement and not staying stationary.&#xA;&#xA;The bad habit of leaning with the upper body is actually something I picked from Muay Thai in my gym." CreationDate="2017-02-28T15:53:30.173" UserId="7980" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15020" PostId="7251" Score="0" Text="@Dean: yikes!  Maybe the real problem is whether your muay thai instructors know what they're doing?" CreationDate="2017-02-28T22:15:17.703" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15022" PostId="7255" Score="2" Text="Welcome to the site. I seriously doubt that you will be able to find an answer but it is possible that there is one for a particular organisation that teaches BJJ, at least an approximation. Why do you want to know? What concrete problem are you trying to solve?" CreationDate="2017-03-01T09:43:48.257" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15023" PostId="7257" Score="2" Text="This exalts Hapikido without even a shadow of evidence." CreationDate="2017-03-03T08:01:14.610" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15024" PostId="7258" Score="1" Text="[There is a story about just that…](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/7130/82)" CreationDate="2017-03-03T13:04:00.373" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15025" PostId="7258" Score="3" Text="We would need to know which school you go to and what parent organisation they are affiliated to as answer might vary wildly between schools." CreationDate="2017-03-03T13:04:40.490" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15026" PostId="7258" Score="4" Text="In some organizations, kids ranks and adult ranks have no relationship to each other. In others, the requirements are identical, with a lower age limit on black belts." CreationDate="2017-03-03T17:02:21.717" UserId="6599" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15028" PostId="5297" Score="0" Text="I should say, usually disabled comments for an article is a big red sign to me. The article is interesting though." CreationDate="2017-03-04T16:49:12.260" UserId="8043" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15033" PostId="7264" Score="0" Text="Q57 from the link above sums it up perfectly." CreationDate="2017-03-05T06:54:06.530" UserId="8042" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15034" PostId="7262" Score="0" Text="Whiplash is actually the name for the muscles tightening to protect the neck from what I have read. This is not a cause of death although damage to the spine could be." CreationDate="2017-03-05T10:03:36.980" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15035" PostId="7259" Score="1" Text="For these strikes: No. There are others that CAN cause death reliably. But lets face it even if you know how you can't very well practice them." CreationDate="2017-03-05T10:06:59.737" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15036" PostId="7264" Score="0" Text="@reggie: :) Could be your instructor's working from something similar." CreationDate="2017-03-05T14:05:15.587" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15038" PostId="7262" Score="0" Text="Good point about whiplash. Yeah, I'm referring to the physical snap-back caused by a strike to the neck. The head will rotate and dip down. Do it fast enough and with enough force, and you can get nerve damage and possible a tearing of the arteries. So it can be serious, but rare, and not very predictable. Also, in a fight, your neck muscles are probably very tense and ready for the impending impact. This effect is best observed when the neck is loose." CreationDate="2017-03-05T22:22:13.653" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15041" PostId="7264" Score="0" Text="There are counter-examples to the quoted *&quot;twin block is a defence against two attackers&quot;* in the Encyclopaedia, such as a twin palm block with its illustrated use against single attacks (Vol 3 pg 214), the twin straight knife-hand (sang sun sonkal) against a spinning heal (3 / 237), twin palm (sang sonbadak) against an axe kick (3 / 250) so I don't think that's the intended difference between the terms (I'm not sure there even is a consistent basis for use of twin vs double)." CreationDate="2017-03-05T22:56:50.660" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15047" PostId="7267" Score="0" Text="If you cannot be definitive and need to ask, why not just wait till you have the answer before writing one?" CreationDate="2017-03-06T08:56:29.987" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15048" PostId="7267" Score="0" Text="Sorry, I forget this isn't a chat room. I'm pretty confident that is right but will wait in the future when I want to confirm before posting. My bad." CreationDate="2017-03-06T12:22:04.980" UserId="7936" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15049" PostId="7271" Score="0" Text="Could you explain what lead you to come up with this? I've never seen 'chagi' or 'jirugi' split like that (though your breakdown does fit with 'ap cha busigi' for a front snap kick)." CreationDate="2017-03-06T12:57:01.933" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15050" PostId="7272" Score="1" Text="I will gladly take another answer with a source for a name. :)" CreationDate="2017-03-06T13:18:38.553" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15053" PostId="7266" Score="0" Text="I appriaciate the breakdown.  Could you point me to a website with a list of the breakdowns , thanks." CreationDate="2017-03-06T14:34:36.673" UserId="8042" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15054" PostId="7266" Score="0" Text="I'm afraid not; that's from my handbooks and instructors!" CreationDate="2017-03-06T14:52:41.807" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15056" PostId="7264" Score="0" Text="Interesting. Well, all I can say is that the subject is a lot more complicated than I expected." CreationDate="2017-03-06T16:27:53.760" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15057" PostId="7262" Score="0" Text="I've removed the whiplash mention and clarified." CreationDate="2017-03-06T18:54:56.880" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15060" PostId="7273" Score="1" Text="How about twin palm blocks (Enc. Vol 3 / p 217, 250, 257, 265)? - palms are together." CreationDate="2017-03-07T00:07:43.167" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15063" PostId="7273" Score="0" Text="@TonyD Very good point. That definitely doesn't fit my explanation! I'll bet the encyclopedia doesn't have a definitive explanation for the difference, either!" CreationDate="2017-03-07T08:55:53.890" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15064" PostId="7271" Score="1" Text="This comes from questioning FGM Rhee and GM Hwang (among other pioneers). Not sure how much it makes sense in native Korean - but splitting the words into small blocks and &quot;building&quot; the technique a bit at a time seems to be the way to learn it effectively" CreationDate="2017-03-07T09:00:35.983" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15065" PostId="7271" Score="0" Text="@Collet89, I think it would be worth adding that extra detail to your answer." CreationDate="2017-03-07T09:03:07.440" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15066" PostId="7271" Score="0" Text="@MikeP done now." CreationDate="2017-03-07T10:02:35.760" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15067" PostId="7281" Score="1" Text="Damn should have thought of using a definition. Good highlight of the time practised though." CreationDate="2017-03-07T10:59:29.467" UserId="6415" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15068" PostId="7281" Score="0" Text="@NinjaArekku Just a pedantic mathematician here… ☺" CreationDate="2017-03-07T11:09:03.793" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15069" PostId="7273" Score="0" Text="I think you're right - I couldn't find any explanation re-reading over Vol 3." CreationDate="2017-03-07T13:33:01.980" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15070" PostId="7284" Score="1" Text="There is a lot claims in your answer, yet there is no source. Also, links are subject to rot so you should describe what the link is about." CreationDate="2017-03-07T14:56:13.647" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15071" PostId="7284" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion what exactly would be &quot;the source&quot; for &quot;this information was not available&quot; ?" CreationDate="2017-03-07T17:10:38.553" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15072" PostId="7284" Score="1" Text="We do need a description of the salient points of the video. Here is an example of video description which was deemed good enough: https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/922/what-makes-this-seated-daito-ryu-technique-work" CreationDate="2017-03-07T17:11:57.297" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15076" PostId="7286" Score="1" Text="Just from watching a trailer, it seems to be generic Chinese wu shu with the usual HK cinematic twist.  Some of it's basic enough to effectively be crude kickboxing with little style - actors put through some boot camp without real experience or stylistic roots, like the kid whose eyes go black." CreationDate="2017-03-07T22:31:36.313" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15078" PostId="7208" Score="0" Text="There are a lot of potential causes for cramps: dehydration, blood flow problems, lack of minerals like potassium or calcium in your blood, exposure to cold temperatures, injury or overuse of your muscles, certain diseases related to your kidney or thyroid, medication like diuretics, birth control pills, steroids.&#xA;So instead of fighting the symptoms, try to find out the cause (in other words, go see a doctor)." CreationDate="2017-03-08T08:27:49.173" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15079" PostId="7288" Score="0" Text="Nice research.  A specific scene should go into a new question but it would be a good question." CreationDate="2017-03-08T11:26:52.043" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15080" PostId="7290" Score="0" Text="Edited question,  I ment for pattens not for sparing." CreationDate="2017-03-08T13:19:23.667" UserId="8042" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15081" PostId="7290" Score="0" Text="Ah. I added a bit more information, but honestly, they don't really seem to have any real rules preventing someone from entering with a different belt. The rank just determines which form they might be required to do." CreationDate="2017-03-08T13:29:44.127" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15082" PostId="7290" Score="0" Text="So if a green belt did say Dan gun,  a yellow belt Patten,  they would be breaking the rules?" CreationDate="2017-03-08T13:35:21.793" UserId="8042" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15083" PostId="7208" Score="0" Text="Thanks. These ones maybe the cause: dehydration, lack of potassium, cold temperatures, overuse of the muscles. So, drinking, eating chocolate/banana, asking to rise up heating and empowering calf muscle would respectively make it. And the last one was the matter of my question: empower the calf muscle." CreationDate="2017-03-08T13:51:37.183" UserId="7957" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15084" PostId="7290" Score="0" Text="@Reggie: It's possible that I'm misunderstanding the rules, but it looks like if they select a pattern that it is not within the allowed ones for *the division they are competing in*, they will not receive any points." CreationDate="2017-03-08T14:07:15.227" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15085" PostId="7290" Score="0" Text="What if they wear a yellow belt for the competition, so they can do a yellow belt pattern,  when they have graded and received a green belt in class and the instructor knows this!" CreationDate="2017-03-08T15:06:17.687" UserId="8042" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15086" PostId="7290" Score="0" Text="@reggie: I don't think the tournament rules prohibit it unless, again, your specific tournament prohibits it. There are no real objective criteria for rankings, no registry, so there's nothing really preventing a black-belt from competing on the 9th gup level other than risking public censure and possibly having a disadvantage in that he'll be doing forms that he learned years ago and may not have used much since, competing against people who drill those forms constantly." CreationDate="2017-03-08T15:17:16.443" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15087" PostId="7289" Score="0" Text="There are too many ITF groups to be certain on this - and it will also vary tournament to tournament (rules for interclubs, nationals and internationals will differ). If you gave your branch name and what level or tournament you may get a better answer - otherwise your instructor or the tournament host for the tournament rule book (and then directly asking this question if that is of no use) is probably best" CreationDate="2017-03-08T17:14:46.963" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15088" PostId="7271" Score="0" Text="So in saju jirugi 4 directionals punch the punch is actually (piercing-motion) (jiru-gi)" CreationDate="2017-03-08T17:18:09.647" UserId="8042" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15089" PostId="7271" Score="0" Text="And shouldn't it be &quot;yop cha jiru gi&quot; for &quot;side kick piercie motion&quot;" CreationDate="2017-03-08T19:18:41.883" UserId="8042" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15090" PostId="7290" Score="0" Text="Doesn't the itf regulate gradings?  Surely a yellow belt has the same criteria worldwide,  if it's itf?" CreationDate="2017-03-08T19:21:05.397" UserId="8042" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15091" PostId="7290" Score="0" Text="The actual criteria for the ranks is, I believe, specified. However, the decision by any given teacher as to when to promote or demote a student is up to them. If you have a purple belt and go to another school, they may or may not accept your belt. Similarly, I don't believe there's anything in the rules that prevents a coach from putting someone with purple-belt knowledge into the yellow-belt competition whether or not they have that belt." CreationDate="2017-03-08T20:52:28.877" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15092" PostId="7284" Score="0" Text="Those of you asking for the source of my information on the seisan kata bunkai can write me directly for clarification at windschool@earthlink.net. Simply respond, Stackexchange, source." CreationDate="2017-03-08T21:18:01.330" UserId="8050" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15093" PostId="7289" Score="0" Text="What is a &quot;patten&quot;?  Google says wooden overshoe." CreationDate="2017-03-09T09:35:07.360" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15094" PostId="7290" Score="0" Text="Are you talking about taekwon-do; as there isn't a purple belt in the itf system?" CreationDate="2017-03-09T11:33:47.950" UserId="8042" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15095" PostId="7289" Score="0" Text="A pattern is a sequence of attacking and defensive moves,  performed in a logical order,  against an imagenery opponent." CreationDate="2017-03-09T11:35:48.020" UserId="8042" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15096" PostId="7289" Score="0" Text="Oops typo, sorry! " CreationDate="2017-03-09T11:36:51.040" UserId="8042" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15097" PostId="7271" Score="0" Text="@reggie yes jirugi means piercing not punching (punch is really fore knuckle pierce). We usually condense the gi into the final word of the phrase - you will also see other condenses so yopcha (for side kick) is common (followed by jirugi/buisigi etc) So you will usually see it written as either &quot;yop cha jirugi&quot; or &quot;yopcha jirugi&quot; - more important is recognising the spoken words in class." CreationDate="2017-03-09T11:56:52.390" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15098" PostId="7290" Score="0" Text=":) Sorry. I did a different TKD, so the belts have different names in my head. But the spirit is the same." CreationDate="2017-03-09T12:08:38.493" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15110" PostId="7298" Score="1" Text="Making this about all martial arts makes this question impossible to answer. Which would be the accepted one between one detailing Japanese martial arts and another western ones? You need to pick one." CreationDate="2017-03-10T12:51:05.037" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15112" PostId="7298" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion I have read both the article and the announcement by Prof Platt himself, so I know that the newspaper article is no-nonsense. I could remove it though, as it is, after all, referencing someone else's work." CreationDate="2017-03-10T12:54:17.213" UserId="8041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15114" PostId="7298" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion Do you by this mean Prof Platt's announcement? In that case, I'll have to do some more digging to find a better source." CreationDate="2017-03-10T14:04:34.600" UserId="8041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15115" PostId="7300" Score="0" Text="Your paragraph 'Self-determination / Independence' is interesting in that it shows how what is considered a positive empowering of the student, can in fact be what breaks them. The following paragraph,  'Noble Sacrifice', is something one might well be taught about (300 Spartans, Ajas/Ajax, Olav Tryggvason), and as you point out, a student might turn this around, seeing it as the correct action to take. I do, however, have a *big* problem with your statement about the attempted suicide ('… after a student … made a… …&quot;please someone stop me&quot; attempt...); it demonstrates serious lack of insight." CreationDate="2017-03-10T14:13:54.273" UserId="8041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15117" PostId="7298" Score="0" Text="OK. I'll remove it, as the paper is, after all, what is of interest." CreationDate="2017-03-10T14:15:50.060" UserId="8041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15119" PostId="7010" Score="1" Text="At my dojo it's called (informally) the 'Superman pose' since it has you thrusting (or puffing up) your chest.  Our Soke says it's for projecting confidence and for intimidation." CreationDate="2017-03-10T15:54:15.383" UserId="8061" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15122" PostId="7301" Score="0" Text="This was an enlightening answer, particularly how you put it in an historical context, and showed how never give up (an obvious similarity to taekwon-do's third basic principle: perseverance) clearly refers to _not_committing suicide. Could you provide av reference to this? I also have a question to this: How do they—the philosophical teachings of your martial art—consider someone who have succumbed to suicide? (Note: I purposefully chose the passive voice.)" CreationDate="2017-03-10T23:36:01.127" UserId="8041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15124" PostId="7296" Score="0" Text="@mattm I am sorry, but I do not understand where the inclarity is at the moment. Could it be that a rephrasing of the first question could help? I suggest the following: 'In particular, how are mental illnesses considered in the philosophical teachings of the old masters of martial arts?' This, however, loses the dual implication of the question: both theory _and_ actual performance of the practice in the training hall, and therefore the day-to-day work of the instructor." CreationDate="2017-03-10T23:47:32.110" UserId="8041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15128" PostId="7301" Score="1" Text="I'll find suitable a reference later yes (I have several books of the founder's teachings but can't really quote them due to copyright issues and they would be hard for you to obtain).  I've been thinking about your question.  The best way to put it is that they would see someone who had succumbed to suicide as misguided.  The ideas predate a good understanding of mental illness amongst doctors.  The founder would probably not even have been familiar with the concept.  Perhaps now is a good time to develop the philosophy of this and other styles in light of the development in medicine?" CreationDate="2017-03-11T12:42:05.447" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15130" PostId="7302" Score="0" Text="Supposition are not really useful. Let us know how it went and this will be a good answer." CreationDate="2017-03-11T22:19:52.250" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15131" PostId="7302" Score="0" Text="This is closer to a new question than an answer. If you have a new question that is not addressed in this question and its answers, you should ask it. See the [tour](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour)." CreationDate="2017-03-12T23:35:17.507" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15132" PostId="7303" Score="0" Text="This has nothing to do with General Choi and his peers views on mental illness… Or have I missed something?" CreationDate="2017-03-13T07:59:48.237" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15133" PostId="7303" Score="0" Text="I think the relevant part might be 'As long as they believe that they have used their mental and physical energy most effectively, humans beings will never lose hope, nor will they suffer undue anxiety.' That might be stretching it, though. I suspect neither Gen. Choi nor any of his peers said much about the issue, considering their time, generation, and partially their culture. I would like to see this answer refined; it could very well be that there is something more in what follows." CreationDate="2017-03-13T11:23:35.040" UserId="8041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15134" PostId="7303" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion The answer covers &quot;How to handle life and all the odd balls it'll throw at you&quot;, &quot;philosophy of martial arts generally&quot;, and &quot;how are mental illnesses¹ considered in the practicing of martial arts in the philosophical teachings of the old masters&quot;, though not for TKD. It also covers &quot;both theory and actual performance of the practice in the training hall&quot;; Kano's view was that randori was the most important element for mental development." CreationDate="2017-03-13T12:09:19.750" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15135" PostId="7303" Score="0" Text="@CannedMan By refined, you mean want more of the quotation of what Kano said, or a better explanation of what he said? If the former, I will not be able to add relevant much more from Kano that is relevant." CreationDate="2017-03-13T12:23:42.253" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15136" PostId="7303" Score="0" Text="@CannedMan It sounds like you are probably more interested in what the Taoist-influenced martial arts have to say. It will take me awhile to write such an answer." CreationDate="2017-03-13T12:25:04.807" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15137" PostId="7303" Score="0" Text="Either the question is a general &quot;mental health is all martial arts&quot; and thus utterly over broad and should be closed. Or it is focused on the founders of TKD views. You cannot have it both ways." CreationDate="2017-03-13T12:37:15.070" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15138" PostId="7303" Score="0" Text="And just to clarify: Yes, I am also interested in what other martial arts have to say on the subject ('and his peers')." CreationDate="2017-03-13T12:58:02.700" UserId="8041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15139" PostId="7303" Score="0" Text="I was looking for a better explanation as to how what he taught can give insight in how he/they considered mental *illnesses* in particular, and how they according to their teachings, should be met, evaluated and assisted towards their overcoming." CreationDate="2017-03-13T13:03:27.007" UserId="8041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15140" PostId="7303" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion The question is, as I believe us clearly written, 'What, if anything, did General Choi and his peers (then and current) have to day on [the subject of mental illness]?]' I purposefully did not exclude other martial arts, both because that could shed light on the subject, but also because taekwon-do is so heavily influenced by particularly Japanese martial arts (vz Shotokan)." CreationDate="2017-03-13T13:06:34.947" UserId="8041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15141" PostId="7303" Score="1" Text="@CannedMan Including all other martial arts makes this question massively over broad and without a possible best answer. I would make clear that you *do exclude* other martial arts." CreationDate="2017-03-13T13:16:23.300" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15142" PostId="7303" Score="0" Text="I understand your point. I've further clarified (in case it was not already clear from the title of the question)." CreationDate="2017-03-13T13:17:25.413" UserId="8041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15145" PostId="7298" Score="0" Text="Your comment is already well covered by how I've structured my question (vz in particular the notes)." CreationDate="2017-03-13T13:43:09.823" UserId="8041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15146" PostId="7301" Score="0" Text="This has nothing to do with TKD." CreationDate="2017-03-13T13:49:27.090" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15147" PostId="7300" Score="0" Text="This has nothing to do with TKD." CreationDate="2017-03-13T13:49:57.653" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15148" PostId="7300" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion: Yes, but he asked about martial arts in general, TKD in specific." CreationDate="2017-03-13T13:50:39.653" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15149" PostId="7300" Score="0" Text="In that case the question should be closed as over broad." CreationDate="2017-03-13T13:50:59.453" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15150" PostId="7301" Score="0" Text="[Off to meta we go…](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/482/82)" CreationDate="2017-03-13T14:04:41.277" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15151" PostId="7296" Score="0" Text="[Off to meta we go…](http://meta.martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/482/82)" CreationDate="2017-03-13T14:04:49.013" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15152" PostId="7305" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site! This is a nice question indeed." CreationDate="2017-03-13T15:33:37.857" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15164" PostId="7308" Score="0" Text="Shaolin monks can only take hits to very specific parts of the body. Often the force isn't as large as it appears either." CreationDate="2017-03-15T08:38:21.000" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15165" PostId="7309" Score="0" Text="Thanks Huw for your comment but still not totally satisfied as when Karatekas break bricks if that same force is applied on Human body then will be an instant death or bones will break ?" CreationDate="2017-03-15T08:46:48.460" UserId="8005" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15166" PostId="7309" Score="0" Text="Yes, if they can get a solid hit bones will break. That is a use of ki or chi too. But also they have to calcify their bones over time otherwise their own bones break." CreationDate="2017-03-15T09:13:56.933" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15167" PostId="7310" Score="2" Text="Welcome to the site. This is a seed of a good answer but could you describe the CDO Miudinho sequences and tell us why, in your experience, this answers the question." CreationDate="2017-03-15T10:03:55.433" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15168" PostId="7309" Score="0" Text="You are re-defining ki to mean doing stuff. To be fair, [ki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi) has no clear definition." CreationDate="2017-03-15T10:07:29.317" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15169" PostId="7309" Score="1" Text="+1! I've seen some people who would be called to use &quot;qi&quot;. They themselves just laugh, saying it's timing and synchronisation between mind and body, resulting in tiny movements with big impact, while others call it magic." CreationDate="2017-03-15T12:48:07.760" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15170" PostId="7311" Score="2" Text="☺ I was less charitable and my comment got deleted…" CreationDate="2017-03-15T14:00:52.570" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15171" PostId="7310" Score="0" Text="{nods} CDO would be Cordao De Ouro. I think this might be the sequences he's talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M92w3a28hUw" CreationDate="2017-03-15T14:56:56.357" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15172" PostId="7309" Score="0" Text="@ProjnabrataSeth: To borrow Bruce Lee's famous quote, &quot;Boards don't hit back&quot;. They also don't dodge, and have nice flat surfaces which you can strike without breaking your hand. In comparison, humans tend to move out of the way of a blow, before during and after the blow strikes, and the surfaces are curved or angled, which means that you can only apply so much force before it exerts more pinpoint force against your hand (and smaller surface areas such as striking with one or two knuckles means your blow is likely to deflect on impact)." CreationDate="2017-03-15T15:09:17.267" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15173" PostId="7308" Score="1" Text="Please narrow this down.  You seem to be asking: a) Can chi defeat sport martial arts, b) can a person without training in martial arts win a fight with chi alone, and c) why don't MMA fighters use chi.  Please make your question more clear.  Thanks!" CreationDate="2017-03-15T16:50:41.870" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15174" PostId="7309" Score="0" Text="Sardathrion.  I am not making this up!  This is what ki means in most styles.  Look at the japanese word Genki.  https://www.quora.com/What-does-the-Japanese-word-genki-mean-in-English-How-is-it-used  It just means energy in the sense of being energetic.  https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E5%85%83%E6%B0%97  Even in styles that encourage the visualisation of ki or qi this is really what they are talking about." CreationDate="2017-03-15T18:35:58.180" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15175" PostId="7309" Score="0" Text="Also In shorinji kempo we talk about kinosen.  http://www.e-budo.com/forum/showthread.php?31507-Ki-No-Sen" CreationDate="2017-03-15T18:50:53.407" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15176" PostId="7309" Score="1" Text="I thought of a better analogy.  If I use the word &quot;grace&quot; in a christian context it means the power of god.  If I use it in an everyday context it is about people being &quot;graceful&quot; and moving nicely.  In the same way &quot;Qi&quot;, &quot;Chi&quot; or &quot;Ki&quot; in a taoist sense &quot;Divine or Celestial energy&quot; but in everyday martial arts it refers to actual physical effort of individuals." CreationDate="2017-03-15T19:22:33.043" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15177" PostId="7308" Score="0" Text="According to Ohtsuka sensei (founder of Wado Kai/Ryu karate), &quot;ki&quot; or &quot;Chi&quot; is simply energy in the sense of E=1/2 * mass * velocity squared ... newtonian physics.  A bit more research and you find that a lot of the mysticism attached to chi/ki comes from westerners either misusing the words for profit or not really having a grasp of the language." CreationDate="2017-03-16T05:56:07.857" UserId="6599" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15179" PostId="7308" Score="0" Text="@Bankuei I want the answers to those Questions which will make my concept more clearer . That's the reason I asked . I do not know exactly but looking at movies like JCVD in Bloodsport broke the bottom brick , even Brucelee , Jetlee do in their movies ,in national geographic channel Shaolin monks do unbelievable feats , I am just unable to make out how, why and who knows the exact form of chi .  Boxers like Tyson with one left hook have floored many opponents in 1st KO contrary to the monks who can withstand heavier pain &amp; punch when they apply this energy ." CreationDate="2017-03-16T07:37:34.263" UserId="8005" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15180" PostId="7309" Score="0" Text="Anyone is welcome to re-define what 氣 (qi, chi, ki) means for their own purpose. It is a polysemous word with dozens of meaning. Etymologically, all it means is &quot;breath&quot;/&quot;air&quot;/&quot;gas&quot;. Mostly, it is understood to be a mythical [circulating life force](https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/qi). You (and others) define it as energy or skill or whatnot. [Aleister Crowley](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley) would define it as [magick](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magick_(Thelema))." CreationDate="2017-03-16T08:17:05.043" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15181" PostId="7309" Score="0" Text="In some martial arts, 氣 (qi, chi, ki) is synonymous for bullshit while in others it is just movement, momentum, and correct breathing, while in yet other it is a religion one must follows. The point is **there is no single definition**." CreationDate="2017-03-16T08:17:11.543" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15182" PostId="7309" Score="0" Text="I disagree that I am redefining anything. But yes the mmeaning is dependent on context." CreationDate="2017-03-16T08:22:35.797" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15183" PostId="7309" Score="0" Text="&quot;*氣 (qi, chi, ki) […] in everyday martial arts it refers to actual physical effort of individuals.*&quot; Poppycock! Just look at Shinshin Toitsu Aikido for &quot;ki as Mind moves Body&quot;… 'nuff said." CreationDate="2017-03-16T10:56:22.317" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15184" PostId="7308" Score="3" Text="Films are fiction, not reality. Shaolin monks mostly do demonstrations, not combat/sparing and thus can stack the decks to their heart's content. Neither points detract from life long learning of skills but there is neither magic nor supernatural forces at work there." CreationDate="2017-03-16T11:09:26.393" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15185" PostId="7308" Score="0" Text="@ProjnabrataSeth I understand that you're interested in learning - but when a question is too broad, it is harder to answer a question with good information and context.  Pick one and narrow down and see what answers you get, then ask another question after you feel you have some good information.  Clear questions allow for clear answers." CreationDate="2017-03-16T14:22:47.427" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15186" PostId="7309" Score="0" Text="This is an example of what i am saying not a counterexample. http://app.m-cocolog.jp/t/typecast/99948/71254/5076611 Ki moves the body the same way mind does? Or ki in the form of a mind moves the body? Either way its about physical things is it not? In karate they talk about 'spirit' I suppose you think this is about ghosts? (its basically the same idea )" CreationDate="2017-03-16T16:46:47.060" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15187" PostId="7309" Score="0" Text="I just want to clarify that Bruce Lee didn't say &quot;boards don't hit back&quot;.  A character he was playing, called Lee, in a fictional movie said it.  Anyway: Lee was wrong: boards do hit back.  (Refer to newton's third law)" CreationDate="2017-03-16T17:17:04.080" UserDisplayName="user6519" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15188" PostId="7309" Score="0" Text="Actually sardathrion lets go to chat. I didn't mean to be as rude as my last comment probably sounded." CreationDate="2017-03-16T18:54:56.407" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15191" PostId="7309" Score="0" Text="Huw, no worries whatsoever. ☺ We are both passionate about it all and 140 characters is just way way way too short. If I wrote something that sounded insulting, it really was not meant that way." CreationDate="2017-03-17T08:10:22.507" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15192" PostId="7321" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site. I strongly suggest you looked at the [tour](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour) to find out how this site works. Under its current form, your question has nothing to do with martial arts whatsoever. It is about medical problems which are off topic." CreationDate="2017-03-17T10:42:56.527" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15194" PostId="7292" Score="0" Text="Great answer, I would just add that working on form can increase endurance as well, many people waste too much energy during their punches. Try to ask your coach about your form and the way you punch." CreationDate="2017-03-17T12:20:14.977" UserId="7362" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15200" PostId="7321" Score="0" Text="I'm trying to think if there's a medical manner to answer this... basically, doing the splits involves muscles and ligaments, not the testicles. The only ways I could see splits impacting fertility is a) repeated impacts with the floor if not done in a controlled manner or b) constanty pressure on the groin area if settling into a split for a prolonged amount of time (I know there's a measurable effect in bicycle riders from the seat compressing tissue and tubes)." CreationDate="2017-03-17T13:49:36.027" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15203" PostId="7310" Score="0" Text="Yes, Sean those are some of the sequences; and yes CDO = a capoeira group called Cordão de Ouro. Sardathrion -thnx for the welcome. These sequences involve defending from attacks by [falling to the ground] into movements like queda-de-rin, negative angola, etc.. and flowing into other ground movements like ponte, au cordão de ouro, volta per cima, etc. Sean asked for a suggestion of DRILLS/SEQUENCES... I'm not sure why I'd have to include an explanation of WHY in my answer when WHY was not in the question" CreationDate="2017-03-20T03:08:48.547" UserId="8076" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15204" PostId="7310" Score="0" Text="btw Sean you may wanna research benguela games also. It's not my style, but from what I've seen they use a ton of ground movements as well" CreationDate="2017-03-20T03:20:18.707" UserId="8076" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15205" PostId="7324" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site. Your answer is a block of text and could do with being broken down into paragraphs. Would you mind editing it?" CreationDate="2017-03-20T10:01:48.367" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15206" PostId="7324" Score="1" Text="I have tried to understand what you have (bit of a challenge in that block of text) but it appears you have not read my question at all, and are in fact just ranting about something. &quot;What is in my heart?&quot; Eh - no... there is just a WTF class that might be easier to get to through the week." CreationDate="2017-03-20T11:22:25.003" UserId="57" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15207" PostId="5778" Score="0" Text="This question seems to attack a lot of &quot;Cool Story Bro&quot; answers. I am assuming the question is about identifying the effect not about gathering useless anecdotal stories." CreationDate="2017-03-20T14:08:30.090" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15208" PostId="5839" Score="0" Text="I can't find the third.  But apparently, a 4th has just been developed apparently for the juniors division by the Asian Taekwondo Union, it's called Himchari.  This is much newer, and couldn't possibly be the one I was thinking of, I think it was developed 6-8 months ago, which is the earliest mention of it I can find." CreationDate="2017-03-20T14:09:00.543" UserDisplayName="user6519" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15210" PostId="7262" Score="0" Text="I cannot recall the exact source, but I recall seeing a depiction in one of the US army training manuals of a horizontal knife hand strike to the bridge of the nose (more or less between the eyes) which was supposed to be potentially fatal. This might be what the whole idea of &quot;Punching somebody's nose into their brain&quot; is based on. If I can locate the source I will post it here." CreationDate="2017-03-21T01:55:39.057" UserId="6083" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15211" PostId="7258" Score="4" Text="Worry less about your belt, and more about your training and experience ;) if you really want to you can go out and buy a black belt tomorrow." CreationDate="2017-03-21T01:58:08.837" UserId="6083" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15212" PostId="7262" Score="0" Text="There has been a lot of Asian martial arts influence on the army, starting with classical jujitsu, then judo, then karate and TKD, and finally now BJJ and MMA. Those earlier army manuals were likely showing stuff that individual members of the army picked up from training on those arts. It's just repeating a myth, that's all." CreationDate="2017-03-21T14:57:17.673" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15214" PostId="7190" Score="0" Text="uhm...no. Try that against someone hopped up on PCP and you will be in a world of hurt unless you get very lucky. How does your answer improve at all upon the already accepted answer?" CreationDate="2017-03-21T22:33:41.380" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15215" PostId="5839" Score="0" Text="There are a set of 8 or 9 new poomsae, not just a 3rd/4th. There are many playlists of them all on Youtube but here's one link as an example - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzaqoxgouCQZlYW9YbIJ5pQPPc_OXB5F8" CreationDate="2017-03-22T00:22:37.493" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15216" PostId="7332" Score="3" Text="Welcome to the site. I edited your question a little to make it more readable. If I changed its meaning, please let me know." CreationDate="2017-03-22T07:43:45.390" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15217" PostId="7333" Score="0" Text="Thank you! Did not know that. But do you think some may actually be legit, like [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a86cQobU-n4) one?" CreationDate="2017-03-22T15:41:07.650" UserId="8094" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15218" PostId="7335" Score="0" Text=":) Eyeh, there aren't many groups here in Pittsburgh currently (there used to be more, but people moved). But thank you for the advice." CreationDate="2017-03-22T16:12:39.140" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15219" PostId="7334" Score="0" Text="There is something to be said for practicing it in a situation where you can exit it when uncomfortable without causing offense." CreationDate="2017-03-22T17:09:52.320" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15220" PostId="7333" Score="0" Text="I understand it takes several minutes to retract the testicles even once you get good at it. Great answer." CreationDate="2017-03-22T17:56:25.627" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15221" PostId="7333" Score="0" Text="@VentziMarinov The video you link mentions the guy took hundreds of groin hits to the point he's losing pain reception - this is functionally about the same as &quot;drag giant stone with testicles&quot; in impracticality." CreationDate="2017-03-23T05:19:17.427" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15224" PostId="7331" Score="2" Text="Exactly the answer I was thinking of saying, especially the stretching part. A great stretch for it is sitting like that, then leaning back." CreationDate="2017-03-23T11:39:26.790" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15225" PostId="7337" Score="1" Text="Has anyone you've trained with mentioned your improvements?" CreationDate="2017-03-23T18:39:00.153" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15226" PostId="7337" Score="1" Text="Close as medical advice and possible RICO violation." CreationDate="2017-03-23T19:42:18.907" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15227" PostId="7338" Score="5" Text="Yeah, unless you have verification that there's been any improvement on your part from folks who know how well you move, etc. odds are almost certain that this is just the drugs affecting your self perception. And while people involved in pretty much ANY activity claim to feel improved, it's notable psychotropic drugs are not the choice chemical for engaging in warfare." CreationDate="2017-03-23T21:27:24.857" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15228" PostId="7338" Score="0" Text="LSD is definitely not considered performance enhancing." CreationDate="2017-03-23T21:44:01.790" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15229" PostId="7337" Score="0" Text="If you type *Martial Arts psychedlics* in Google, you actually get a number of people discussing this, but most of them are either speculative or discussing psychedelics related to philosophy/religion in martial arts. The others indicate that some people have felt increased focus (and claim others have seen the same in them) combined with relaxation and a feeling that they understand all of the angles and how their biomechanics contribute. Interesting stuff, actually, but all anecdotal." CreationDate="2017-03-24T01:56:06.027" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15233" PostId="7335" Score="0" Text="A big part of capoeira is travelling around and meet other people. So maybe you want to look up groups in other cities and see when they have workshops. If you ask them they might be open to take in people from other groups as well." CreationDate="2017-03-24T19:56:07.537" UserId="8058" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15234" PostId="7331" Score="0" Text="To second this, I used to like to sit on my legs as a kid and favored one side more than the other.  It turns out one leg can sit in the position you mention far longer and easier than the other one.  Practice over and over really does help here and it's nice to see other people get uncomfortable too.  The only difficult part is as the body ages, it isn't so easy to adapt there as it once was." CreationDate="2017-03-24T22:20:35.723" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15236" PostId="7342" Score="2" Text="I think that depends on the federation we are speaking of. In Germany, it would be 2nd dan. Possibly 3rd, if always shortened waiting time with participation in workshops, doing licences and high level competitions (16 1st, at the very least 2 to 2nd and 3 to third, makes 21). But never heard of an actual example of that. Long story short: Which federation are we speaking of?" CreationDate="2017-03-25T03:22:55.563" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15238" PostId="7342" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKl�cking Probably the US Judo Association." CreationDate="2017-03-25T15:54:39.113" UserId="8110" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15239" PostId="7280" Score="0" Text="I agree, I have about 11 years spread over 20ish and I don't claim the other 9 as I wasn't actively utilizing it.  It fades when not active even though I was understanding &quot;how it gets used&quot; better during some of the gap, my body memory of it faded and had to be re-sharpened." CreationDate="2017-03-25T20:39:30.940" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15240" PostId="7351" Score="0" Text="Interesting. I looked it up, and it's all people standing there, like at the very start of a tai chi form (before moving your arms forward), and lots of pics about good and bad posture. Is that the wu chi pose?" CreationDate="2017-03-25T23:01:03.077" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15242" PostId="7351" Score="0" Text="Yes - that's all it is. It would seem like nothing to look at it - it is very simple - that's the secret. If you work a lot with internal arts as I do, you learn to sense your own energy more and more - this simple standing posture is powerful because it grounds you, stops you - but a picture of others doing it won't help - haha - you have to DO it yourself - it takes patience to stand and do nothing! It may not be possible for you - but your body comes to like it - you notice your breathing, your posture - your awareness increases." CreationDate="2017-03-26T01:07:36.013" UserId="8087" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15250" PostId="7344" Score="5" Text="Anyone can demand anything. I can demand to be Prince of Mars.  If any of my instructors tried to demand respect from my 60+ year old parents, I will be amused, and probably post the video to youtube.  I'm not sure that would be willing to give respect to anyone who had to demand it.  Respect (should be) earned, not demanded." CreationDate="2017-03-26T21:51:39.520" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15251" PostId="7344" Score="1" Text="I think Matt Damon already has the &quot;Prince of Mars&quot; title with &quot;The Maritan&quot;..." CreationDate="2017-03-26T22:39:03.037" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15252" PostId="7344" Score="2" Text="The more I read of this question, the more I'm reminded that the first three things to judge in any dojo are &quot;Teacher, Teacher and Teacher.&quot;  There are plenty of teachers out there - what does this individual provide to make up for this attitude?  Go find a teacher who respects you." CreationDate="2017-03-26T23:43:54.303" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15253" PostId="7358" Score="0" Text="I will quibble with the &quot;simple to learn&quot; description. Circle walking was not an early (within first four months or so) element of the curriculum I learned, and there are numerous &quot;basic&quot; versions of circle walking that disagree entirely about how it should be done. For example, there some schools advocate starting with slow sliding steps while others advocate a natural speed rolling step. Without significant instruction, I would find this hopelessly confusing." CreationDate="2017-03-27T03:37:51.820" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15255" PostId="7369" Score="1" Text="I strongly agree with you that respect should be earnt.  I think this teacher believes he has to be respected because he is a 3rd degree black belt.  He has said that he will not listen to anyone but his superiors.  He won't even listen to another 3rd degree in the club. I wasn't sure on the martial arts culture of respect,  and it's similarities with the military stile of hierarchy.  This person is ex army,  so not sure how much of the demanding respect comes from there, and how much comes from martial arts culture." CreationDate="2017-03-27T07:26:01.220" UserId="8042" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15258" PostId="7369" Score="5" Text="@reggie Third dan means &quot;I understands the basics&quot;, nothing more. And he demands respect for that? **That teacher behaves like a idiot. I would strongly recommend you seek training elsewhere.**" CreationDate="2017-03-27T08:37:25.523" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15263" PostId="7345" Score="0" Text="I think that kickboxing is not a specific martial art as much as a martial-arts-based sport, so there would not be a &quot;traditional&quot; uniform associated with something that generic.  This doesn't answer the question (hence, a comment), but it's a bit of an apples to oranges comparison." CreationDate="2017-03-27T15:41:45.533" UserId="7553" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15265" PostId="7372" Score="0" Text="Capoeira would indeed be a good choice *provided that the instructors are teaching safely*. I have seen too many capoeira practitioners with bad backs. Also, I would like to see this expended a little: *how do these aspect help stimulate.?*" CreationDate="2017-03-28T13:37:27.873" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15266" PostId="1577" Score="0" Text="Forms have great value as moving meditation and for teaching structure and new movements to beginners. They are a kind of library of techniques for your body to store and practice. However, as my teacher Chang Sik Kim said to me once about his own forms - they're not for fighting. In his zen martial art, their purpose is self-realization. Otherwise I agree with Dave - In a real fight, if forms are all you do, you'll be immediately lost - they're put together for learning and practicing - you can't employ their structure in a serious fighting situation." CreationDate="2017-03-28T13:53:33.657" UserId="8087" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15270" PostId="7369" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion: what third dan means varies enormously.  As one counter-example, Shin-Kyokushin's Tsukamoto Norichika is a third dan, and it's absurd to describe him as anything less than a master." CreationDate="2017-03-29T02:10:08.667" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15272" PostId="7369" Score="1" Text="@TonyD Ranks are a mere guideline…" CreationDate="2017-03-29T06:46:40.837" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15274" PostId="7376" Score="0" Text="The instructor cheating is but one of many examples of poor integrity from this instructor.  The central question was about unquestional respect within a Martian arts environment.  The students have to recite the taekwon-do oath&quot; ... I shall respect our instructors and seniors...&quot;  Maybe it should say &quot;... if they behave in a respectfully way!...&quot; I'm not trying to skew the question by adding the information on cheating,  this instructor demands unquestionable respect , even though he lacks integrity.  I know the answer to this question outside a martial arts envirmont,  but not within." CreationDate="2017-03-29T10:42:50.453" UserId="8042" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15275" PostId="1511" Score="0" Text="Very good answer regarding equal respect for beginners and more advanced students.  Everyone deserves respect!" CreationDate="2017-03-29T13:02:15.170" UserId="8042" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15279" PostId="7376" Score="3" Text="@reggie The taekwondo oath is stupid, reflecting Confuscian values.  General Choi wanted to make more of TKD than was warranted, and bolted overly simplistic ethics on the side.  Such values have often used to reinforce hierarchical power structures, where it's quite deliberate there's no *&quot;if they behave in a respectful way&quot;* - it's encouraged to have faith rather than question or judge authority.  Anyway, the answer within a martial arts environment is the same as without, you shouldn't respect people who clearly don't deserve it, and you should find another instructor." CreationDate="2017-03-29T17:15:59.160" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15280" PostId="7379" Score="1" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's essentially a sales question." CreationDate="2017-03-30T04:31:25.190" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15281" PostId="7379" Score="0" Text="There is a good question in there but as it stands, it is a sales question." CreationDate="2017-03-30T07:31:00.607" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15282" PostId="7379" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan I don't see why a sales question is necessarily off-topic. This is about equipment, and equipment is expressly [on-topic](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic). The question is answerable and even verifiable." CreationDate="2017-03-30T14:13:42.497" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15283" PostId="7379" Score="0" Text="@mattm: &quot;use, maintenance, and construction&quot; of equipment is on-topic. However, this is a &quot;where can I buy this&quot; question, which traditionally are not on-topic on Stack Exchange to my understanding." CreationDate="2017-03-30T15:08:16.197" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15284" PostId="7379" Score="0" Text="I agree with @mattm; martial arts equipment is on-topic. &quot;Martial arts equipment (**including** use, maintenance, and construction)&quot; (my emphasis); this doesn't specifically exclude &quot;where do I buy?&quot; questions." CreationDate="2017-03-30T19:45:44.177" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15288" PostId="7381" Score="2" Text="[Already answsered](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/7327/82)" CreationDate="2017-03-31T14:03:26.527" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15291" PostId="7190" Score="0" Text="@JohnP It's only shorter than the already accepted one, and in my opinion simpler. What does it matter what someone is on? If they can't move, then they can't move." CreationDate="2017-03-31T19:14:39.213" UserId="7914" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15292" PostId="7369" Score="1" Text="I've arranged to join another class today.  Very sad to leave all my good friends,  but the instructor is an utter disgrace!" CreationDate="2017-03-31T20:03:51.820" UserId="8042" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15294" PostId="7382" Score="2" Text="I have seen this style of fist in a few styles of penjak silat, some Chinese kung fu, and Indian Shastar Vidiya.  The various reasons I have heard given are: a) strengthens metacarpals during punch (1st two knuckles), b) harder to strip the thumb with a counter grab, c) less tension in the forearm than the more common thumb across fingers method." CreationDate="2017-04-01T08:44:12.460" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15295" PostId="7384" Score="1" Text="You might want to check out this episode of Kung Fu Quest where they go to learn Bajiquan and see several schools doing spear training.  At the very end you can see them doing training with heavy long spears, but intense home made armor for protection: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTxzd_LKIew" CreationDate="2017-04-01T08:46:51.623" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15296" PostId="7379" Score="0" Text="https://www.amazon.com/TITLE-OLD-SCHOOL-HEAVY-GLOVES/dp/B00115RXT4/ref=sr_1_29/154-9652106-1602914?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1491073022&amp;sr=8-29&amp;keywords=leather+bag+gloves&#xA;Not sure if that is it, but it says old school in the name..." CreationDate="2017-04-01T19:07:22.703" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15297" PostId="5172" Score="0" Text="I had the same thing in Karate and the same question came up with left only, it was said it was just tradition, but if someone wants it on the right no problem and then started asking where to put the stripes.  Also if people tie the belt the opposite way it's now on the right side.  I can't think of any reason aside from tradition as @DaveLiepmann mentioned in the first comment.  I'm not sure anyone will have an actual answer, but I think Dave Liepmann should put his as an answer to this one...especially since it's been 2 years..." CreationDate="2017-04-02T06:03:27.060" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15299" PostId="7386" Score="2" Text="If you are asking about seiza, this is a point unique to aikido. In Judo Formal Techniques by Donn F. Draeger and Tadao Otaki, the authors are quite explicit that the toes should not be crossed." CreationDate="2017-04-02T12:39:46.930" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15300" PostId="7389" Score="2" Text="I don't see how that answers the question" CreationDate="2017-04-02T15:01:28.807" UserId="6623" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15301" PostId="7386" Score="0" Text="Ok that's interesting. So the obvious question is &quot;did they mention why the toes should not be crossed&quot;? And yes, I'm referring to seiza." CreationDate="2017-04-02T15:02:54.233" UserId="6623" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15302" PostId="7386" Score="0" Text="@Nav: No. They just include it as a wrong position, and note regarding toes that &quot;Notice that when you assume *seiza* or leave it to stand up, your insteps rest on the mat only at the instant of sitting, when your buttocks actually settle down onto your legs. At all other times during the lowering or rising action of your buttocks, your feet rest standing on their toes for stability&quot;&#xA;&#xA;You can read the book yourself at https://archive.org/details/TadaoOtakiDonnF.DraegerJudoFormalTechniquesACompleteGuideToKodokanRandoriNoKata" CreationDate="2017-04-02T15:13:57.383" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15303" PostId="7386" Score="3" Text="(sigh) I wonder why martial arts and religion even need to have silly unexplained practices. It's even more silly when people continue following it without knowing why, instead of pausing and saying &quot;*hey; I don't know why we do this crap. Let's stop doing it*&quot; : http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/7006/why-is-more-time-dedicated-to-exercises-and-very-less-for-sparring-is-it-for-th" CreationDate="2017-04-02T18:30:59.450" UserId="6623" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15304" PostId="7389" Score="0" Text="People have been training to fight since probably humans have existed. The origin of martial arts that your Ukrainian friend is refering started in india more than 5000 years ago uses fighting, yoga and meditation." CreationDate="2017-04-02T18:59:53.987" UserId="8132" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15305" PostId="7386" Score="1" Text="If you are interested in an answer for why the toes should not be crossed, I think that is a different question than you have asked." CreationDate="2017-04-02T22:04:19.447" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15309" PostId="7389" Score="1" Text="Sainid: the India-&gt;China-&gt;Japan thing is a common story, so I think you've been a bit harshly treated with the votes!  But, if you dig for references about the truth of that story, I think you'll find it's largely a modern invention - I've tried to document that in my answer." CreationDate="2017-04-03T05:33:06.677" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15312" PostId="7388" Score="2" Text="Missed your chance to say &quot;Longer Answer: NOOOOOOOOOOOOO&quot;. :)" CreationDate="2017-04-03T12:20:16.870" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15313" PostId="7308" Score="0" Text="@Bankuei..I asked too many because I wasn't entirely sure of what I was asking . I was just curious. I want to make the Readers pour as much content as possible ." CreationDate="2017-04-03T13:59:06.150" UserId="8005" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15314" PostId="7397" Score="2" Text="Do you want to actually go to a martial arts school to train, or do you mean that you want to add something to your gym experience in solo? Like maybe your gym has an aerobics room that lets you do stuff, and you see yourself learning some martial arts workout routines from video and doing them by yourself at your gym?" CreationDate="2017-04-03T15:16:23.313" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15316" PostId="7390" Score="1" Text="I talk about this a little at my answer here:&#xA;http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/4561/doing-mma-or-a-doing-multiple-individual-martial-arts-which-is-more-effective/4567#4567" CreationDate="2017-04-03T15:23:29.677" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15318" PostId="7389" Score="0" Text="Tony, you are wrong in your judgment about the origin of martial arts.  The lack of information online really clouds your judgment. I don't blame you. Martial arts started in India and was started by a single people. The rest are just lineage with their own interpretation. But I don't contest that people can not learn to fight just by themselves but that is no martial arts. Once you realize the real history then things will be more clear to you." CreationDate="2017-04-03T16:13:30.797" UserId="8132" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15322" PostId="7407" Score="0" Text="Make the head completely bald and disguise it by wearing a wig. No need to practice martial art." CreationDate="2017-04-03T22:14:23.367" UserId="7701" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15323" PostId="7407" Score="2" Text="What techniques?" CreationDate="2017-04-03T22:40:01.103" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15324" PostId="7299" Score="0" Text="Regarding &quot;There is a master course DVD/book that you can get from hombu&quot;, how do you know this?" CreationDate="2017-04-04T00:52:30.287" UserId="7701" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15325" PostId="33" Score="0" Text="ok, so clearly the most important thing in martial arts is choking out...121k views!!!" CreationDate="2017-04-04T02:36:02.083" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15326" PostId="7299" Score="0" Text="@SingleFighter I have a copy which I got from Nariyama-san." CreationDate="2017-04-04T06:59:34.090" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15328" PostId="7399" Score="0" Text="Last paragraph: The little I know about the law points to that advise being utterly stupid behaviour which will make you go to jail without passing Go…" CreationDate="2017-04-04T07:56:02.603" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15329" PostId="7397" Score="1" Text="I would like to add something in my Gym workout . I do punch &amp; throw kicks to punching Bags move around like Boxers which I feel sheds more calories compared to a Cardio exercise on a Tread Mill or Elliptical . That's the reason I was looking for any other ." CreationDate="2017-04-04T07:57:02.993" UserId="8005" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15330" PostId="7410" Score="0" Text="Thanks @Sardathrion ....I would like to add something in my Gym workout . I do punch &amp; throw kicks to punching Bags move around like Boxers, jump with spinning kicks which I feel sheds more calories compared to a constant Cardio exercise on a Tread Mill or Elliptical as it makes me much more exhausted. Do you think it is good for calorie loss as it also gives a lot of flexibility ." CreationDate="2017-04-04T08:01:51.777" UserId="8005" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15331" PostId="7410" Score="0" Text="If you want cardio, train that. If you want flexibility, train that. If you want calorie burn, train that. If you want to learn a martial art, train that. *They are all separate things.* To be fair, those things all help each other but then again, so does ballet." CreationDate="2017-04-04T08:09:56.770" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15332" PostId="7408" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion Could you clarify what you mean by too localised? To me it reads as if asking about martial arts with similar principles/mindset as opposed to &quot;what could i train near me&quot;, I could be misinterupting this though :)" CreationDate="2017-04-04T08:16:12.587" UserId="6415" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15334" PostId="7388" Score="1" Text="[Long answer: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO](http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/)." CreationDate="2017-04-04T08:27:49.510" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15335" PostId="7408" Score="1" Text="Please read [what is on topic](http://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic) here and then reconsider whether you question fits that." CreationDate="2017-04-04T09:33:43.037" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15336" PostId="7408" Score="3" Text="If even other WC schools aren't suitable, then your needs are obviously specific enough that you'll want to visit all the nearby schools that *might* be good, and pick for yourself.  I suggest you use Google Maps or similar and work outwards from home, given travel time is your main constraint.  If you're not sure about a school or art, google the school and look for general videos on the art on youtube.  Anything plausible - drop in and watch/try a class or three.  As for your question - &quot;[my old WC school's] mindset/philoshopy&quot; is so vague it's hard to match anything on that." CreationDate="2017-04-04T10:26:43.273" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15337" PostId="7397" Score="0" Text="If you add some kicking to your moving &quot;around like boxers&quot; you'll burn more calories.  Low turning kicks are the easiest technique to deliver vaguely passably.  But you won't get *good* at martial arts unless you join a dedicated martial arts class and take the time to learn and understand the technique; no matter what art you pick, not all *that* practice will be cardio intensive.  Kyokushin big-mitt training is a great cardio workout too, but you'd need a partner to hold the mitt and would be best off joining a dojo for that." CreationDate="2017-04-04T10:32:54.673" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15339" PostId="560" Score="0" Text="Excellent description. I have lived this same changed, from TKD to Chinese style and you describe versatility and good anarchy very well." CreationDate="2017-04-04T11:42:59.857" UserId="3152" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15341" PostId="7407" Score="0" Text="You may find on youtube videos, but I suggest you to find a dojo/gym." CreationDate="2017-04-04T12:20:39.593" UserId="6474" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15342" PostId="7408" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion: My impulse is to read it as &quot;Wing Chun&quot;." CreationDate="2017-04-04T12:28:08.037" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15344" PostId="7389" Score="0" Text="@sainid: when I say &quot;largely a modern invention&quot;, I'm talking specifically of the idea that Bodhidharma transmitted actual martial arts (and not just exercises that helped the monks become stronger and better at their own martial arts) from India to Shaolin, and you're welcome to read the Wikipedia articles mentioned in my answer, check the references, and publish any research or references you have to the contrary." CreationDate="2017-04-04T13:59:13.860" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15345" PostId="7399" Score="0" Text="I would think it likely as well, not to mention I figure the person would stab themselves many times before they ran into a situation where it would be a good defense...I have seen wooden chopstick like things though that would look more decoration, but still not fun to grab...not sure what those are exactly though..." CreationDate="2017-04-04T14:12:43.617" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15347" PostId="7408" Score="2" Text="What aspects of the mindset and philosophy do you find appealing that you are searching for in other arts? &quot;Wing Chun&quot; covers a number of different styles, and we don't know what your school might have taught in terms of mindset and philosophy that is not part of the systemic core values." CreationDate="2017-04-04T14:23:59.820" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15348" PostId="7389" Score="0" Text="More generally, *&quot;Martial arts started in India&quot;* is a wildly bold claim.  Something much more specific like &quot;martial arts were introduced to Shaolin from India&quot; is at least possible to get some facts about from historical records.  But &quot;martial arts&quot; in general - origins are so far back into pre-history that they're unknowable, so dependent on the definition of &quot;martial art&quot; used as to be meaningless, and practically irrelevant." CreationDate="2017-04-04T14:25:07.703" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15349" PostId="7389" Score="0" Text="Tony, I agree with you that teaching from India had a profound effect on martial arts on China. Not only did Bodhidharma go to china but travelers from china came to India to learn it. I also agree with you that the origins go back in history but where I disagree is that they are unknowable. If it is unknowable to you don't mean that it is unknowable. I know the name, place and time where it started. And yes even the person who started it. I took me more than 25 years to figure it out. I am going to write a book about it and let the truth be out." CreationDate="2017-04-04T16:26:03.623" UserId="8132" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15350" PostId="7389" Score="0" Text="Don't get me wrong, I respect and admire martial arts from china, japan, Russian and others countries. I think they are wonderful. But the origin of martial arts from India has a very important story to tell." CreationDate="2017-04-04T16:26:09.933" UserId="8132" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15353" PostId="7397" Score="0" Text="Might want to migrate to sports/health.  Exercise reduces weight. There is no magic exercise.  Your weight is the calories you take in minus the calories you burn in activity." CreationDate="2017-04-05T01:13:21.827" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15354" PostId="7409" Score="0" Text="Is it allowed to use head guard in competition?" CreationDate="2017-04-05T01:53:08.480" UserId="7701" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15355" PostId="7414" Score="1" Text="Thanks a ton @Steve Weigand ...the article is brief and helpful indeed." CreationDate="2017-04-05T06:48:41.613" UserId="8005" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15356" PostId="7409" Score="0" Text="@SingleFighter Answer edited." CreationDate="2017-04-05T06:54:12.103" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15367" PostId="7408" Score="1" Text="The question is still **unclear** (what mindset is that?), **invites wild speculations** (no comparison criterion given, no goals), and **cannot be objectively answered** (Fred say karate, Alice say savate, Bob says capeoira. All three are right, all free are wrong)." CreationDate="2017-04-06T12:54:30.827" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15372" PostId="7408" Score="0" Text="Just edited my answer below to include Kali / Escrima and Taiji. May be worth a re-read." CreationDate="2017-04-06T16:07:37.957" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15373" PostId="7422" Score="2" Text="Mainly, my question was whether it affected the sound. My experiences with *berimbaus* was entirely with ones without the painted designs." CreationDate="2017-04-07T03:20:46.437" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15375" PostId="7422" Score="1" Text="This does not answer the question." CreationDate="2017-04-07T06:44:05.280" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15379" PostId="7408" Score="0" Text="It really depends on which aspects of wing chun you care about. Some forms of the FMAs might fit the bill if you're looking for in-close fighting. Krav Maga is practical like WC. ¯\(°_o)/¯" CreationDate="2017-04-10T18:32:52.633" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15386" PostId="7394" Score="0" Text="Hmmm ... after looking at the answers below, ans seeingthem in practice in my dojo, I'd suggest &quot;Hea katto no jutsu&quot; (Japanese: ヘアカット の じゅつ) is the only surefire way of minimizing harm from having long hair in combat." CreationDate="2017-04-13T04:36:45.600" UserId="6599" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15390" PostId="7434" Score="1" Text="What are you trying to achieve with this training setup?" CreationDate="2017-04-13T13:55:25.487" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15392" PostId="7439" Score="0" Text="a &quot;one handed pushup&quot; position doesn't sound like something coming about often during ground fighting anyway...  :) that made me laugh, like some super hero show off move once you have the guy down do a one handed pushup and hit him down with full intimidation :)" CreationDate="2017-04-13T20:48:13.393" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15393" PostId="7439" Score="0" Text="@mutt: Jet Li's early movies had several scenes where he was bouncing around doing one arm pushups in the middle of a fight, but usually he'd just been thrown then was avoiding attacks to each of his arms in turn.  I keep meaning to practice it as it's so obviously useful (as long as they kick at your arms and not your head) but somehow always forget to. ;-)" CreationDate="2017-04-14T07:28:20.120" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15395" PostId="7440" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site. I edited your question slightly to make it more readable. Hope this works for you." CreationDate="2017-04-14T12:03:41.460" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15398" PostId="7440" Score="0" Text="No weapons. Bare knuckles, I'm afraid." CreationDate="2017-04-14T14:13:51.803" UserId="8166" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15400" PostId="7441" Score="0" Text="Ooooh. I get what you mean. That sounds good! I'm totally using the &quot;nerve cluster&quot; thing. Thanks, Sean ;-)" CreationDate="2017-04-14T14:23:43.710" UserId="8166" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15401" PostId="7440" Score="3" Text="If you want to restrict someone's breathing, you constrict or apply pressure to their chest, not near the hips. When pressing down on the base of the spine, pressure will be below the rib cage and not on the lungs." CreationDate="2017-04-14T14:29:03.930" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15402" PostId="7440" Score="0" Text="Valid point @mattm." CreationDate="2017-04-14T14:36:35.770" UserId="8166" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15404" PostId="2960" Score="0" Text="You'll want to make the self-disclosure more prominent, and avoid so many capital letters (it comes across as shouting). Also, if you want to quote something, you can put a `&gt;` (right angle bracket) before each line, and it'll format it nicely." CreationDate="2017-04-17T04:41:57.867" UserId="6505" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15406" PostId="7434" Score="0" Text="Punching sometging on the ground? I would recommend only hammer fists, as they are the most safe way to do in that setup." CreationDate="2017-04-17T12:13:01.643" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15407" PostId="7445" Score="0" Text="You should summarize what &quot;doing stretches just as instructed by many websites online&quot; means." CreationDate="2017-04-17T14:32:07.380" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15408" PostId="7443" Score="1" Text="I appreciate your enthusiasm, but this could do with a bit more explanation than a laundry list of names." CreationDate="2017-04-17T18:04:17.920" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15409" PostId="7444" Score="0" Text="Cheet Jeung is &quot;cutting palm&quot;. Pai Kui is &quot;slicing hand&quot;. Both are techniques in the SPM style." CreationDate="2017-04-18T02:39:16.600" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15410" PostId="7444" Score="1" Text="One other thing: Southern praying mantis is a very complex, subtle, difficult to learn and master style. It uses internal mechanics. I'm afraid that learning from pictures is not very likely without someone instructing you." CreationDate="2017-04-18T02:42:45.687" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15411" PostId="7447" Score="1" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because this is a fitness issue unrelated to martial arts (off-topic, please ask on [Physical Fitness](https://fitness.stackexchange.com/))" CreationDate="2017-04-18T14:04:25.560" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15412" PostId="7448" Score="0" Text="What does this has to do with martial arts?" CreationDate="2017-04-18T14:44:46.613" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15413" PostId="7449" Score="0" Text="What does this has to do with martial arts?" CreationDate="2017-04-18T14:44:58.143" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15415" PostId="7447" Score="0" Text="Where is the hard distinction between the practice of martial arts and other physical activity? For example, if Martial Arts includes sporting arts, does it also include some degree of sports medicine?" CreationDate="2017-04-18T15:16:52.213" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15416" PostId="7448" Score="0" Text="This is a place the practice of martial arts clearly overlaps other physical activities. There necessarily will be shared knowledge between certain subject matters." CreationDate="2017-04-18T15:20:29.430" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15418" PostId="7449" Score="0" Text="Recovery from soreness allows better training and improved performance, in martial arts or any other sport." CreationDate="2017-04-18T15:54:16.363" UserId="7936" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15419" PostId="7445" Score="0" Text="+1! You need to get beyond your pain limit in order to increase your flexibility. For this, you need someone else to push you there, as people typically can't do that themselves. If you stay within your limit, though, that will be where your limit remains." CreationDate="2017-04-19T01:05:03.190" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15420" PostId="7445" Score="0" Text="This sounds very much like the PNF stretching that I referred to in my comment." CreationDate="2017-04-19T23:49:36.507" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15421" PostId="7450" Score="0" Text="Oh wow. I think I get it but not gonna lie--a video would help. I'll try to research it. Thanks!!" CreationDate="2017-04-20T09:10:38.717" UserId="8166" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15422" PostId="7450" Score="0" Text="I have training tomorrow, I will see if my sensei will allow it to be recorded" CreationDate="2017-04-20T10:34:15.190" UserId="7956" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15423" PostId="7447" Score="0" Text="I'm usually ad odds with my household budget, so I'm not concerned if it has sore muscles.  :D  {rimshot}" CreationDate="2017-04-20T21:31:18.710" UserId="7553" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15424" PostId="1290" Score="0" Text="That's insane.  People who are weaker have MORE of a need for techniques and skills. That might be true if he's talking strictly about that kind of strength needed to extend the limbs and support weight for splits, but the principle of many joint manipulation techniques in martial arts is that I don't need to be stronger than the opponent, or strong, at all.  I need to be my entire body to be stronger than the finger, wrist, knee joint I'm manipulating.  These are skills that could save the life or well-being of a weaker person, but I guess they shouldn't learn them." CreationDate="2017-04-20T21:36:23.137" UserId="7553" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15425" PostId="7452" Score="4" Text="Are you referring to Chinese broadsword or straight sword? And do you have a video showing exactly what you're referring to?" CreationDate="2017-04-21T13:24:36.283" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15426" PostId="7452" Score="0" Text="Chinese Dao, so broadsword. I will see if I can find a video." CreationDate="2017-04-21T14:23:45.653" UserId="8183" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15427" PostId="7452" Score="0" Text="Anything in this video look like what you're talking about? &#xA;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qzat58K9LcY" CreationDate="2017-04-21T17:04:18.307" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15428" PostId="7452" Score="0" Text="Yes sorta. At 4:13 he does it clockwise, I am talking about the same just counterclockwise, but sword following same path." CreationDate="2017-04-21T18:39:45.573" UserId="8183" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15429" PostId="7453" Score="0" Text="That's really detailed and useful! Excellent. Thanks, you guys are so helpful. I have lots of fighting scenes planned so I'm taking stuff in and making notes." CreationDate="2017-04-21T20:49:33.067" UserId="8166" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15430" PostId="7450" Score="0" Text="That'd be fantastic!! No pressure but yay ;-)" CreationDate="2017-04-21T20:50:12.490" UserId="8166" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15431" PostId="7457" Score="2" Text="Related, but not a duplicate: [To prevent injuries, how do you discourage people from using excessive force?](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/6001/5961)" CreationDate="2017-04-24T20:39:24.823" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15432" PostId="7457" Score="0" Text="Definitely related and there's some useful bits there. Thank you @mattm" CreationDate="2017-04-24T21:21:57.537" UserId="7825" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15438" PostId="7462" Score="0" Text="I think your comment about balance is definitely on point here, and I like the &quot;contact points&quot; as another way of thinking about tsukuri. +1" CreationDate="2017-04-25T15:33:17.463" UserId="7825" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15439" PostId="7459" Score="0" Text="I haven't tried the music and incense bit so +1 for some outside the box answers. We do have some occasional younger students that mix in and that does tone down the arts, but unfortunately hasn't had any lasting effects." CreationDate="2017-04-25T16:23:47.307" UserId="7825" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15440" PostId="7462" Score="0" Text="The two-finger grip exercise is also exactly the kind of tip I'm looking for. In this case it is something we've tried. I think it has been useful for some students." CreationDate="2017-04-25T16:24:49.220" UserId="7825" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15441" PostId="7460" Score="0" Text="While all very good suggestions they're also the first things I tried and have been drilling into students for years. The approach works for most. For others though as soon as the speed increases there's still a mental switch that flips and all that training goes out the window." CreationDate="2017-04-25T16:36:33.703" UserId="7825" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15445" PostId="7460" Score="0" Text="@JasonSpake You cannot (should not?) hack people's brains. If the stumbling block is in their head, they have to work out how to get out it: it is just a willpower problem solved by repeating &quot;relax!&quot; a lot." CreationDate="2017-04-25T19:42:40.687" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15446" PostId="7459" Score="0" Text="Agreed, there's no one thing that will work.  You'll probably have to make a life change - a permanent change.  Constantly repeat the need for control, constantly have breathing exercises, and try to be a role model and exaggerate the attention to detail and the partner.  Have you tried beginning your classes with slow breathing exercises and activities?  That can set the tone for the class.  Turn down the lights, and use soft lighting: angry lighting can cause angry or energetic moods." CreationDate="2017-04-25T19:53:38.457" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15450" PostId="2790" Score="0" Text="any links to this??" CreationDate="2017-04-26T13:44:38.647" UserId="8212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15451" PostId="2337" Score="0" Text="what about a roundhouse kick to the ribs with your tibia?" CreationDate="2017-04-26T13:46:03.697" UserId="8212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15454" PostId="6622" Score="0" Text="any videos that would demo this 1 to 1 combat?" CreationDate="2017-04-26T15:07:38.190" UserId="8212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15456" PostId="2337" Score="0" Text="How would you even get the angle?" CreationDate="2017-04-26T15:18:54.747" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15457" PostId="7465" Score="1" Text="It would be helpful if you could limit the discussion to a particular movement in a particular form. There are a number of kata/hyung where this movement can be found. Naihanchi 1, for example. The Jin-Do form of Tangsoodo also has it. These movements have a specific meaning in terms of self-defense and kata bunkai. You can't isolate the movement from the rest of the form. It must be taken in context of the movements which come immediately before and after it." CreationDate="2017-04-26T15:42:06.583" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15458" PostId="7465" Score="0" Text="Ah. Honestly, I don't remember what he did before or after it. Looking at videos, Naihanchi 1 looks like the more likely candidate, although it does not completely match my hazy memories of two decades ago (The &quot;kick the thigh&quot; movement is not done twice in succession). I will amend my question to be in reference to that one." CreationDate="2017-04-26T15:53:56.417" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15459" PostId="6622" Score="0" Text="There are some videos out there in the ether, but I don't know where to find them. You need a very well trained dog and handler team to practice and demonstrate this sort of thing safely, and I certainly wouldn't recommend picking fights with strays." CreationDate="2017-04-26T16:28:10.047" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15460" PostId="7466" Score="1" Text="In karate, a double knife hand block is usually a setup for an arm grab and entry into tuidi-waza. You're not pushing him back, you're reeling him in." CreationDate="2017-04-26T17:22:31.207" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15463" PostId="2337" Score="0" Text="well it could be more of a football type kick, using the tibia" CreationDate="2017-04-26T18:34:23.673" UserId="8212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15471" PostId="7462" Score="0" Text="@JasonSpake Also, especially with older beginners, my experience is that they try to achieve too much too fast. I followed the strategy of giving them small goals and steps of improvement as they will not stiffen up and tense by trying to achieve something they - at the point - do not have the strength and technique for. Lower the standards, so to say, to an appropriate level for their experience, not their age and cognitive capabilities. This was one of my mistakes when teaching until recently." CreationDate="2017-04-27T14:47:47.027" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15472" PostId="7445" Score="0" Text="I did not say all websites but most websites" CreationDate="2017-04-27T18:19:25.340" UserId="8172" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15473" PostId="7445" Score="0" Text="So some don't say that" CreationDate="2017-04-27T18:20:31.180" UserId="8172" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15477" PostId="7473" Score="2" Text="You have to be an *excellent* striker for keeping a good grappler with this kind of build in a distance where he does not have advantages. Also, takedowns are potentially easier and take less energy when being short and strong. I hate being in a fight with a fit, shorter guy of equal weight who knows wrestling or judo (i.e. has good groundwork as well)." CreationDate="2017-04-28T16:22:09.133" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15478" PostId="5541" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigandL &quot;standard measurement device / many out there / just need to select one&quot; - couldn't disagree more - my take on that [here](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/6812/1618).  Studies using half-baked measuring devices create more untrustworthy disinformation.  Classic example of getting it wrong is that [&quot;fight science&quot; BS](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49mT-e5mSC0) from National Geographic." CreationDate="2017-04-28T19:44:31.500" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15479" PostId="7475" Score="3" Text="That may or may not be true (I don't know), but the question is more about power, so this would be better posted as a comment rather than answer." CreationDate="2017-04-28T19:46:19.593" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15480" PostId="7473" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking Agreed. Takedowns seem to be more effortless for the shorter more built guys." CreationDate="2017-04-28T19:50:26.057" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15481" PostId="2160" Score="2" Text="Early versions of the Encyclopedia (like the copy I bought in the late '90s) didn't mention sine wave or describe anything even vaguely resembling it.  Sine wave was only added to ITF TKD in the mid 80s (from memory), so instructors who trained before its introduction often stuck to what they knew - either passively or because they actively disagreed with the sine wave &quot;theory&quot; and supposed benefits." CreationDate="2017-04-28T19:59:21.027" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15482" PostId="7465" Score="0" Text="The kick itself might be what TKD calls a Waving Kick / 덜어 차기 / deoreo or doro chagi." CreationDate="2017-04-28T20:27:17.483" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15484" PostId="7473" Score="0" Text="Great answer, thanks! Here's hoping I get another great answer on armed fighting." CreationDate="2017-04-29T04:44:09.387" UserId="8127" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15485" PostId="7473" Score="0" Text="Oh, I forgot to ask. Why is it that shorter guys seem to tire faster? Just lung capacity or something? Also, thanks to Philip for adding his point!" CreationDate="2017-04-29T05:41:23.283" UserId="8127" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15486" PostId="7478" Score="3" Text="Please take the [tour](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour). This is a question and answer site, and your post is a new question rather than an answer to the question of how to harden the thighs. You should ask this as a new question." CreationDate="2017-04-29T11:32:10.843" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15489" PostId="7473" Score="1" Text="Overly muscular guys can tire faster. The shorter guy is usually stronger than his opponent. Probably why you notice that. At high levels guys are so well conditioned that it doesn't matter too much though." CreationDate="2017-04-29T16:28:55.127" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15490" PostId="7478" Score="0" Text="Other answers noting that it is impossible to harden the thighs gave tactical suggestions as answers as did I (jumping the shins, and neko ashi pose). I widened that to treatments as well admittedly. No good?" CreationDate="2017-04-29T20:57:21.190" UserId="8226" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15492" PostId="7478" Score="0" Text="The part that is no good is that you are asking a new question in a post that is an answer. Ask a new question, and you can link back to this question if you think it helps to clarify." CreationDate="2017-04-30T15:15:31.263" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15494" PostId="7480" Score="1" Text="Agreed. You can train this (kind of) standard movement for escaping throws (half-twist, counter-directional) through gymnastics or, as this is easiest, against tomoe-nage. Without an opponent losing control this does not help much in general, though." CreationDate="2017-04-30T20:52:51.613" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15495" PostId="7475" Score="0" Text="No responsive.  Might be interesting if the theory were supported." CreationDate="2017-05-01T01:18:00.407" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15496" PostId="7478" Score="0" Text="Sorry. I have removed the request for more suggestions." CreationDate="2017-05-01T05:11:00.967" UserId="8226" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15506" PostId="7483" Score="0" Text="I discuss some of the issues with martial arts demographics in my answer here: &#xA;https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/7024/reliable-statistics-about-martial-arts/7028#7028" CreationDate="2017-05-02T03:11:45.433" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15510" PostId="7484" Score="1" Text="Very nice find indeed!" CreationDate="2017-05-02T12:53:07.747" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15512" PostId="7484" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion: As per the discussion there, it shouldn't be provided alone, but with the content of the answer, much like how one is not to provide a link-only answer. After that, it's the risk of seeming condescending, but I balance that against providing evidence that plugging in the right search terms can find relevant results. &#xA;&#xA;Frankly, I think most of what I found is the same resources as in Steve's answer." CreationDate="2017-05-02T13:09:23.260" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15516" PostId="7485" Score="1" Text="If you had a little more reputation, you could start a bounty of the previous question to attract newer answers. Maybe a kind soul who does BJJ and has enough reputation to spare could do that? I would but I know little to nothing of BJJ so my judgement would be poor at best." CreationDate="2017-05-02T13:40:29.200" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15517" PostId="7485" Score="1" Text="Also, do you want to do a *ontology*, i.e. describing what there is and what the basic, existential relations between the existing techniques are, or a *taxinomy*, i.e. some kind of ordering the techniques according to their phenomenological differences and similarities into classes, families, etc. - Your second paragraph could be read as both." CreationDate="2017-05-02T13:48:30.940" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15518" PostId="7485" Score="1" Text="Might I suggest you [took the tour](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour) to see how this site works?" CreationDate="2017-05-02T14:24:52.457" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15520" PostId="7483" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand: Do you feel like they're similar enough to be Duplicates?" CreationDate="2017-05-02T14:39:41.107" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15521" PostId="7483" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan I think they're similar in some ways, but different enough to have its own question. Maybe it will inspire someone to actually perform a poll." CreationDate="2017-05-02T18:58:59.060" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15522" PostId="7484" Score="1" Text="A good answer, yes, but it would be improved by adding information on the age-distribution of the total population; that way, one could tell whether the age distribution of martial arts practitioners is of statistical significance." CreationDate="2017-05-02T20:23:16.977" UserId="8041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15523" PostId="7483" Score="0" Text="I've seen a couple of polls/studies about martial arts - I was kind of hoping that this might serve as an inspiration for something similar.  Might be an interesting paper for someone in a PT/Sports therapy program." CreationDate="2017-05-02T21:43:47.937" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15524" PostId="7128" Score="0" Text="No its not underestimated anymore, now its getting its recognition, mainly because of mainstream MMA. People who train not only in BJJ but in Karate and Kungfu ahve shown outright competence in MMA and thus the art is being respected. Even in K1 and other organizations." CreationDate="2017-05-03T05:13:44.373" UserId="4270" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15530" PostId="7480" Score="0" Text="As curiosity, here in Brazil we call ``Pilão``. It means something like &quot;Pestle&quot;." CreationDate="2017-05-04T19:53:10.183" UserId="3152" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15531" PostId="7480" Score="0" Text="@gpupo What do you call Pilão? The throw, the escape, or something else?" CreationDate="2017-05-05T05:44:10.983" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15532" PostId="7487" Score="0" Text="In your first question, who is &quot;you&quot;? Is this the person punching or being punched? What does it mean to apply force &quot;vertically upside-down&quot;? Standing on your head punching toward your feet?" CreationDate="2017-05-05T19:26:03.287" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15533" PostId="7487" Score="0" Text="Please be more clear about what you mean and also, is this a question for something speculative, like fighting in zero gravity or something?" CreationDate="2017-05-05T20:11:00.453" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15534" PostId="1035" Score="2" Text="?medical advice?" CreationDate="2017-05-06T10:52:12.190" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15538" PostId="7484" Score="0" Text="Any info on distribution amongst incomes / job types? I notice in my club, adults tend to be either college students or lower-middle class, while at the children classes, it's higher-middle class. It may be interesting to learn if this is representative." CreationDate="2017-05-08T14:03:10.797" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15539" PostId="7484" Score="2" Text="@Raf: From the SImmons research, &quot;Alas, karate lessons don't come cheap, and the likelihood that a child will partake in martial arts increases proportionately with the income of his or her parents. Fifteen percent of kids whose parents earn $75,000 or more a year participate in martial arts, compared with 13 percent of those whose parents make between $50,000 and $75,000. Only 10 percent of kids whose parents earn $50,000 or less participate in the sport.&quot;" CreationDate="2017-05-08T14:19:47.263" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15541" PostId="7480" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann The throw" CreationDate="2017-05-08T14:27:10.207" UserId="3152" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15542" PostId="7488" Score="1" Text="Good answer, but I'll add the one thing not mentioned in here is the floor itself.  When hit while up against a hard un-moving object, the un-moving object adds damage as well.  Thus if someone is punched while there head is against concrete it will be alot more serious damage than a padded surface.  This is due to the surface behind the head though and not the punch itself.  In the case of concrete though, yes it's much more dangerous, but due to the concrete and not the punch..." CreationDate="2017-05-08T17:50:14.687" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15544" PostId="7488" Score="0" Text="@mutt True, concrete would be more damaging than a cage or ring's wooden floor covered with canvas. It still doesn't come close to the &quot;per strike&quot; damage that can be dealt while standing though." CreationDate="2017-05-08T19:32:05.750" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15545" PostId="7492" Score="0" Text="I don't have time to sort through it, but &#xA;http://www.northshield.org/Resources/PDF/NARF/TheMedievalArchersReadingList.pdf might provide a source." CreationDate="2017-05-09T10:26:45.360" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15546" PostId="7492" Score="0" Text="More specifically, it links to https://www.archerylibrary.com/books/, which is a library of historical manuals. I have not found anything explicitly calling out speed shooting. Are you looking for the specific technique that is claimed or someone discussing shooting quickly?" CreationDate="2017-05-09T13:01:53.483" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15549" PostId="7495" Score="1" Text="This does not answer the question. We are not a forum but a Q&amp;A site." CreationDate="2017-05-09T17:07:52.330" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15550" PostId="7492" Score="1" Text="what type of bow?  Each culture has their own methods and the mastery of those methods at high speed would be the answer your are looking for, but there are tons and tons of civilizations and techniques of speed for each one.  Can you be more specific in the type of bow you are talking about in the question?  Common Bow Types: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bow_and_arrow" CreationDate="2017-05-09T18:28:10.677" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15551" PostId="7492" Score="0" Text="Interesting link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEG-ly9tQGk&#xA;and&#xA;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iLTA43MBuA" CreationDate="2017-05-09T19:58:32.243" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15555" PostId="7495" Score="0" Text="Anecdotal opinions.  Fine for pub discussion, but doesn't really provide the kind of *answer* appropriate for MA:SE" CreationDate="2017-05-10T08:23:09.707" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15556" PostId="7492" Score="0" Text="@mutt Why are the links interesting? What do they tell me? Why not write an answer and get lots of fake internet points? ☺" CreationDate="2017-05-10T08:40:14.580" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15560" PostId="7492" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion Well, you asked for specific text which I don't have, even though the links reference text that was utilized for the analysis.  I'll write up a semi-good answer later today, but I like to be able to provide the actual text references and not just links to someone who knows the text references.  Also, when you say western are you meaning native American and south American archery?" CreationDate="2017-05-10T15:25:00.653" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15561" PostId="7500" Score="1" Text="Oh, so basically anything could happen in that case?  I guess it was a little silly of me to judge by what I saw on the YouTube videos. ^^;" CreationDate="2017-05-10T18:31:04.827" UserId="8247" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15562" PostId="7500" Score="0" Text="Yes, anything can happen - including luck can have a factor.  But no, I wouldn't say &quot;silly&quot;.  Many people ask, even those already in martial arts.  And YouTube videos have a dubious use.  They can be helpful, and they can be used to misinform.  I haven't seen your video, so I can't really comment on it, and only make a generalization." CreationDate="2017-05-10T18:50:52.330" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15563" PostId="7499" Score="4" Text="Comparison of martial arts styles is out of scope. Too many variables, devolves to gorilla Vs shark." CreationDate="2017-05-10T18:51:41.923" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15564" PostId="7499" Score="6" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because  gorilla Vs shark." CreationDate="2017-05-10T18:52:13.520" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15565" PostId="7500" Score="3" Text="The obvious thing is that when you see youtube videos showing superiority of one fighting style over the other, it's usually a canned demonstration. In other words, it's not a real fight. One of the two is being compliant and letting the other guy do stuff. It might even be spontaneous, but punches and kicks are coming slowly and from a mile a way, and once the aikido guy gets a hold of the karate guy's wrist, for example, the karate guy doesn't try to yank it back or kick the aikido guy in the legs. He just lets the aikido guy do stuff. That's fakery. Don't believe any of it." CreationDate="2017-05-10T19:01:19.557" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15566" PostId="7275" Score="1" Text="Movies are crafted for specific characters and not always realistic to a whole &quot;styles&quot; as much as to give the impression of extreme mastery to the viewer.  Like in Star wars phantom menace Darth Maul knew martial arts, but the others were just actors practicing with him...not likely either could have beat him realistically, but it looks pretty close in skill due to the scripting and choreography.  Without talking to the choreographer themselves it might be impossible to truly tell a specific style usage unless all the moves are recognizable of a particular style.  As you mention it shifts..." CreationDate="2017-05-10T21:06:56.793" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15567" PostId="7500" Score="0" Text="@Micheal - If you want a somewhat recent example of a great striker defeating a great grappler (an olympic judoka, even), just watch Holly Holm vs Ronda Rousey again. Each style has its strengths and weaknesses, but it's up to the fighters involved to capitalize on them." CreationDate="2017-05-10T21:40:57.843" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15569" PostId="7501" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion I ran out of time, I want to update a list of tricks for the speed part, but didn't have time with the historical analysis of the speed and western archery progression.  I'll update tomorrow with the speed trick section, although I'd say it's still better to watch Lars Anderson as saying some of them is trickier than just watching someone do it." CreationDate="2017-05-11T02:48:55.497" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15570" PostId="7501" Score="0" Text="Australian archery center walking through archery in general: http://centenaryarchers.org.au/about-archery/the-basics/history/" CreationDate="2017-05-11T03:10:36.810" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15571" PostId="7501" Score="0" Text="In my opinion, this does not answer the question for all that it has a lot of interesting information." CreationDate="2017-05-11T12:57:48.607" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15573" PostId="7501" Score="0" Text="yea, I got to add the trick parts that talk about speed...it's in the links provided on &quot;how&quot; and I'll need to add the reference to the text/images utilized...I'll try to get to that today..." CreationDate="2017-05-11T14:51:58.143" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15574" PostId="7501" Score="0" Text="Updated to complete the thought.  Again, if we swap to eastern bow and arrow there is much more to go on as they developed written records a lot sooner and also practiced large scale warfare due to regional domination crusades from all sorts of different cultures.  This increases the need to invent better warfare mechanisms over a standard independent tribal style of life." CreationDate="2017-05-11T18:39:45.500" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15577" PostId="7074" Score="1" Text="I clearly stated my opinion. I trained ITF under Gallentine and Mcdonald in Tx, and Bohnam from Columbia, Missouri, and WTF under Larry Phillips. But, I have competed in many tournaments against ITF, WTF, and Kenpo students, and never lost.  But tournament doesn't mean much, it's the practical situations in real life that truly count. I was always able to walk away virtually unharmed while the other guys ran off cause they couldn't hurt me, ot lay on the ground moaning in some degree of pain. Of course it could just be attributed to natural talent, or possibly the training, or both, lol." CreationDate="2017-05-12T13:04:39.727" UserId="7820" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15578" PostId="4387" Score="0" Text="Funny, the solar plexus and floating rib are both listed as vital points." CreationDate="2017-05-12T15:11:35.197" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15590" PostId="7504" Score="1" Text="Not an exact duplicate, but very close: https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/7387/did-martial-arts-really-originate-from-india-and-is-it-based-on-yoga" CreationDate="2017-05-15T12:47:04.273" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15592" PostId="7505" Score="5" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it has nothing to do with martial arts and should move to [fitness.se](https://fitness.stackexchange.com/)." CreationDate="2017-05-15T19:03:47.290" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15593" PostId="7505" Score="1" Text="There's also not a specific time you can place to developing flexibility like this.  It depends a lot on your initial condition and specifics to your biology. The reality might be &quot;2 days&quot; to &quot;Never, due to joint, bone, and tendon issues&quot;." CreationDate="2017-05-15T22:02:52.437" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15595" PostId="7505" Score="0" Text="The answer is: a lot of days." CreationDate="2017-05-16T05:24:10.190" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15596" PostId="7505" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion it is a part of pre-fight yoga. Bankuei nice advice. cheers" CreationDate="2017-05-16T05:47:52.653" UserDisplayName="user7149" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15597" PostId="7505" Score="0" Text="There's a good question in here, if some things are cleared out. Very important aspects like age, body type, previous stretching experience, etc. are all determining factors. Aside from those, seeing as the tag is &quot;kung-fu&quot;, the question is what style of kung-fu? Some styles are highly acrobatic and could do with such extensive stretching. Other styles won't do kicks higher than the knee. This stretching wouldn't be of much use then." CreationDate="2017-05-16T13:32:47.207" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15598" PostId="7507" Score="3" Text="Yes, and I would add that there has certainly been a transfer of ideas from India to China and vice-versa. The same is true for all of Asia and the West. Nothing exists in a vacuum. But, the idea that Shaolin kung-fu comes from Indian martial arts is a big stretch. In 1500 years since Shaolin came into existence, that has been quite enough time for Chinese kung-fu to evolve in its own way separate from Indian influence. It is 100% Chinese now. Indian martial arts may have played a minor role in influencing it over the years, and kung-fu may have influenced Indian martial arts as well." CreationDate="2017-05-16T13:58:11.703" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15599" PostId="7507" Score="3" Text="@SteveWeigand: Most definitely, yes. All these heritage claims are futile, especially if used in &quot;more pure&quot; or &quot;deeper truth&quot; arguments. You just have to look into the developments between, say, Sambo and Judo, or Muay Thai and Western Kickboxing, in the last few decades. Additionally, it would be like saying Okinawan Karate is just Kung Fu. No, it isn't. Because it transformed in cultural contextualisation (e.g. traditional Okinawan wrestling)." CreationDate="2017-05-16T15:33:50.237" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15600" PostId="7499" Score="0" Text="Since you're not a martial artist, I'll start with some terminology. The suffixes &quot;do&quot; and &quot;jutsu&quot; are used almost interchangably when describing martial arts of japanese origin. More formally, &quot;do&quot; is the sport or self improvement form,  &quot;jutsu&quot; is the survival form.  Most serious martial artists study at least one striking form, one grappling form, and one weapons form.  Most systems incorporate elements of other systems, so karate has a strong aiki component, and aiki practitioners do practice strikes. The last six(ish) movements of Pinan 1 (1st karate kata) are a basic aikido exercise." CreationDate="2017-05-17T02:39:55.723" UserId="6599" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15601" PostId="94" Score="0" Text="The last 6 movements of Pinan Shodan (using okinawan naming but japanese numbering)  as practiced traditionally are also a basic Aikido/Aikijutsu exercise. The arts are complementary, and should also be supplemented with judo/jujitsu for a complete unarmed system." CreationDate="2017-05-17T02:43:34.220" UserId="6599" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15602" PostId="7507" Score="1" Text="I would like to add that this whole idea that there exists _One Original Martial Art_ is laughable. The humanity has always had a mean streak and there have always been more effective fighters than others regardless of geographic or cultural context. Some may even passed on secret of their efficiency to following generations, creating schools of martial arts." CreationDate="2017-05-17T04:33:19.837" UserId="424" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15603" PostId="7509" Score="0" Text="I would suggest to talk to your Krav Maga instructors! there are probably techniques for that already. if there aren't, they are usually open to extend there curriculum if they think the suggestion applies to more people." CreationDate="2017-05-17T06:28:19.267" UserId="7015" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15604" PostId="7509" Score="0" Text="I am assuming the one arm is because of infant in the other, not a lack of another arm." CreationDate="2017-05-17T07:14:56.507" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15606" PostId="7511" Score="0" Text="Depends on how you handle it. Knowing your interpersonal and diplomatic skills, though, it would be pretty likely in your case, yep." CreationDate="2017-05-17T08:53:46.520" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15608" PostId="7511" Score="0" Text="I know, right! :-D" CreationDate="2017-05-17T09:10:06.983" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15610" PostId="7511" Score="0" Text="You pick on one part, without checking the entirety. I suggest, in order of importance: 1) Run. 2) Talk it out. 3) Show you shouldn't be messed with if 1 and 2 don't work. 4) Fight, if 1 - 3 don't work. It is, by all means, the right order to defend yourself and to avoid assault charges. There's a big difference between all these, and just attacking from the get-go." CreationDate="2017-05-17T09:40:33.313" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15612" PostId="7511" Score="0" Text="It's de-escalation, when someone keeps insisting on a fight, and running and talking doesn't work." CreationDate="2017-05-17T09:44:20.347" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15613" PostId="7511" Score="0" Text="Running away (my answer really) and talking to diffuse the situation **are good advises** which I agree with. Attacking someone (even under the legally weak pre-emptive strike defence) **is bad advise**:  &quot;It follows that a man who starts the violence, the aggressor, cannot rely upon self-defence to render his actions lawful.&quot; [source](https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/self_defence/#Revenge). Of course, if you have strong statistical evidence that this works, you're welcome to present it here and I will change my mind.  As for fighting with an infant in your arms or on the floor…" CreationDate="2017-05-17T09:44:54.383" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15614" PostId="7511" Score="0" Text="If running away and talking don't work, the person typically will already be pushing or grabbing you, maybe you've already taken a hit or two. If none of this has happened, either the entire question isn't applicable, or the talking did work." CreationDate="2017-05-17T09:48:58.833" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15616" PostId="7509" Score="0" Text="Remembered me of &quot;Lone Wolf and Cub&quot;. He had some cool moves in such a situation. It's a pity they are not very realistic." CreationDate="2017-05-17T10:11:05.890" UserId="6654" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15618" PostId="7499" Score="0" Text="It's almost always dependent on the skill/training level of the practitioner, more than the martial art itself." CreationDate="2017-05-17T15:02:36.013" UserId="7553" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15619" PostId="7507" Score="3" Text="One other thing. I've been told that Kalaripayattu is actually a fairly modern martial art, even though their own account of the history of it dates back to the 6th century AD. It's similar to Shaolin Kung-fu. The kung-fu taught today at Shaolin Temple at Songshan is basically modern wushu. It's almost completely different from what was taught in the mid-1700's at Shaolin. And prior to the 1700's, there isn't much we know definitively, except that it probably doesn't look anything like what exists nowadays." CreationDate="2017-05-17T15:12:27.917" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15620" PostId="1631" Score="0" Text="@MikeP - ice bruises &quot;overnight, then....&quot; so I'm thinking 12 o'clock/noon." CreationDate="2017-05-17T17:59:25.463" UserId="7553" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15622" PostId="7509" Score="0" Text="Baby backpack/carrier. My wife has been using them for almost 3 years now." CreationDate="2017-05-18T14:02:32.913" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15623" PostId="7514" Score="0" Text="well.. I just wanted to know whether there's any military unit that is training purely KFM or they mix it with other military martial arts such as krav maga, etc... Do I really have to ask them under 2 different questions?" CreationDate="2017-05-18T16:20:53.160" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15625" PostId="7514" Score="2" Text="Adding material from comments" CreationDate="2017-05-18T19:44:54.770" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15626" PostId="7519" Score="2" Text="Do you have any reference links?" CreationDate="2017-05-18T20:38:48.607" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15627" PostId="7514" Score="2" Text="On this note, most of the training I have seen is called basic/advanced hand to hand combat training with a military branch stamp on it...probably to hide the exact styles of combat from anyone else who might learn and counter specifically.  Governments like to proprietize their training programs." CreationDate="2017-05-18T20:40:49.290" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15628" PostId="7519" Score="2" Text="@mutt: It's hard to cite a negative, but I've added a handful of quotes that make it sounds like Keysi might be used in military contexts somewhere. The pickings are slim there." CreationDate="2017-05-18T21:48:31.120" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15629" PostId="7514" Score="1" Text="Apparently the root KFM instructors have separated and created a new martial art called 'DNA fight science' which is an extended version of KFM governed under Defense Lab. I've watched few clips of defense lab that's been instructed around the world." CreationDate="2017-05-19T03:33:37.933" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15630" PostId="4806" Score="0" Text="Just want to say i didnt know that about Delucia. Ive seen his gracie defeat and his UFC debut but i guess i never realised it was the same guy. Truly a warrior that defeats his own ego and is able to become better by doing this." CreationDate="2017-05-19T11:11:17.440" UserId="6734" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15631" PostId="7510" Score="1" Text="I thoroughly enjoyed thinking of my squirming toddler as a mass, so jest taken in the intended spirit!" CreationDate="2017-05-19T21:36:10.213" UserId="8240" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15632" PostId="7520" Score="2" Text="Can you elaborate on what she said on the subject?" CreationDate="2017-05-20T05:26:14.767" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15633" PostId="7521" Score="3" Text="This position is called back control or rear control in BJJ. (The first image is a specific version called &quot;back mount&quot; or &quot;rear mount&quot; because he is on top as well as being behind his opponent.) The crossed-legs position in the last image is called the &quot;body triangle&quot;, so you're looking for escapes from the body triangle from the back." CreationDate="2017-05-21T21:08:48.070" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15639" PostId="7526" Score="0" Text="What is your PTSD from generically?" CreationDate="2017-05-25T12:47:20.633" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15640" PostId="7526" Score="1" Text="And what sort of symptoms do you suffer from?" CreationDate="2017-05-25T12:47:55.503" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15641" PostId="7526" Score="1" Text="&quot;best martial art&quot; will be closed as opinion based. Question is also on the borderline of seeking medical advice.  Beyond all that, the advice to PTSD is the same to everyone choosing a martial art - choose based on the teacher.  Teacher matters more than art/style/lineage, etc. A teacher who understands PTSD is more important than the style." CreationDate="2017-05-25T12:50:03.847" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15642" PostId="7526" Score="1" Text="Even though it's not quite the same thing, I think my answer about highly sensitive people might apply in this case:  https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/5034/how-to-deal-with-an-anti-violence-instinct-during-sparring/5035#5035" CreationDate="2017-05-25T13:11:43.173" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15643" PostId="7526" Score="1" Text="As for PTSD, it's different for everyone. Different triggers, different presentations, different coping strategies. You really ought to be seeing a competent, trained clinical psychologist for this." CreationDate="2017-05-25T13:14:03.510" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15644" PostId="7526" Score="5" Text="First, what are your goals in studying a martial art? Exercise? Sport? Self defense?  Add this to your question.  Second, are there things your therapists have recommended as things to avoid or things to engage with that might affect your training?" CreationDate="2017-05-25T13:19:33.163" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15645" PostId="7526" Score="0" Text="Want to walk back my earlier comment - I hope you find a teacher who can fulfill your goals. There are  couple of good answers about how to pick a martial art; I'm just very cautious about providing medical advice." CreationDate="2017-05-25T16:24:27.040" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15649" PostId="7527" Score="1" Text="[Should one advise on off-topic questions?](https://meta.stackoverflow.com/q/276572/232794)…" CreationDate="2017-05-26T14:58:43.067" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15650" PostId="7527" Score="0" Text="I'm not convinced it's off-topic. It would be useful to have more information on just what he's looking for, and questions asking for the &quot;best&quot; answer court opinion-based answers, but here, I think one can write an answer." CreationDate="2017-05-26T15:24:00.143" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15651" PostId="7526" Score="0" Text="Attempt to clarify at https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/7530/hi-regarding-previous-question-you-answered that his primary problem is &quot;freezing&quot;." CreationDate="2017-05-26T22:48:42.437" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15654" PostId="7526" Score="1" Text="Not everyone has the same triggers for PTSD.  Without any idea of what your goals are in martial arts, or what would get in the way of your training, no one can give good advice.  I have a friend whose trigger is literally stuffed teddy bears since his trauma hit when he was a child.  Other people have things like &quot;people yelling&quot; or &quot;loud noises&quot;.  No one can meaningfully answer your question without further ideas of what you are looking for and what limitations you might face." CreationDate="2017-05-27T15:27:30.870" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15655" PostId="7531" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site! You might want to extend the question to give more information. Hat do you not understand about those techniques? Why are they similar to your eyes?" CreationDate="2017-05-28T10:30:10.133" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15657" PostId="7526" Score="0" Text="i appreciate all the feedback. i apologize if i broke protocol but i have gotten conflicting advice from professionals and i thought this forum would be ideal for answering question. ive read freezing is common for people with or without ptsd. but based on feedback ive gotten enough info to inquire about training. thank you" CreationDate="2017-05-28T13:21:42.450" UserId="8281" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15658" PostId="7531" Score="2" Text="These are all quite different techniques. You would be better off splitting your question up, and also explain what you do know already - your question as it stands is very open ended." CreationDate="2017-05-28T13:25:18.657" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15660" PostId="4543" Score="0" Text="This isn't a shopping list request, I just want help shopping??? What is your definition of a shopping question?" CreationDate="2017-05-30T00:08:18.957" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15661" PostId="7526" Score="1" Text="@DavidTonneJr: It's an interesting question to be sure, and as I said below, I'm not convinced it's off-topic, although you do need to provide relevant information in your question as per the follow-up queries for what sort of issues your PTSD entails. And you erred a bit in doing a new question instead of editing the old one, but I think you learned from it." CreationDate="2017-05-30T10:54:46.293" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15662" PostId="7527" Score="1" Text="As it stands, we have a bad unclear question and an answer that may or may not help. Shame as there is a good question in there." CreationDate="2017-05-30T11:01:25.040" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15664" PostId="3082" Score="0" Text="I would suggest punching him, if this is the only thing left to escape the assault, without the keys... a hammerfist from top down motion targeting his nose. If hit correctly I quaratee that his nose will be broken. This way you avoid injuring yourself (knuckles) and you can execute it pretty easily as there is no fancy technique required for that movement." CreationDate="2017-05-30T16:50:24.500" UserId="6418" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15670" PostId="3082" Score="0" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because I don't think it is related to martial arts and is also very close to legal advice - certainly some of the answers are advocating actions with questionable legality." CreationDate="2017-05-31T13:30:05.307" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15673" PostId="7535" Score="0" Text="Do you really think of a round house kick or just: Square + Square + Triangle?" CreationDate="2017-05-31T15:28:06.283" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15674" PostId="7535" Score="0" Text="That's certainly part of the question. At a certain level of play, one isn't thinking about the action of performing the controller inputs. That leaves one free to consider positioning and strategy. How much does our neuroplasticity, mirroring, and sympathetic response connect us to our proxy on the display? How does that sympathetic connection equate internally?" CreationDate="2017-05-31T15:34:22.163" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15675" PostId="7209" Score="0" Text="The problem can also occur because of not enough stretched body. Shortening the stance is the best solution then. When during some time of regular training, body gets stretched enough, we can enlarge our stances back." CreationDate="2017-05-31T18:07:10.233" UserId="6156" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15676" PostId="7536" Score="1" Text="No one is going to hold against you leaving a style you don't like. Caveat, you could always run into politics if the guy hiring you as an instructor knows the first guy and believes the rumors, but frankly, there's nothing you can do about that." CreationDate="2017-05-31T18:28:09.697" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15677" PostId="7542" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site! This is a very nice question indeed." CreationDate="2017-06-01T09:31:07.913" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15678" PostId="7544" Score="0" Text="We are a Q&amp;A site, so &quot;Ideas and combinations&quot; are not something we do well at all. [Please take the tour to see how this site works](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour). There *is a good question* in there, so I urge you to edit it to make it less like an open ended discussion." CreationDate="2017-06-01T10:58:09.523" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15680" PostId="7544" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion - it depends mostly how people answer. If I get some throws which are good for people of my size the issue is solved for me." CreationDate="2017-06-01T11:22:35.000" UserId="8303" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15681" PostId="7544" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion - I don'tsee much of a relation as I want to train for matches and my opponents are more advanced than me. In my school I am among those with the lower kyus." CreationDate="2017-06-01T11:24:22.393" UserId="8303" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15683" PostId="7544" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion - then the question would basically consist of &quot;Name your Top 10 throws against shorter people&quot;." CreationDate="2017-06-01T11:29:54.630" UserId="8303" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15685" PostId="7544" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion - same goes for the discussion you recommended me" CreationDate="2017-06-01T11:50:45.210" UserId="8303" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15689" PostId="7275" Score="0" Text="@mutt part of the reason I asked is because I know so little about this method, but find it very intriguing.  I know a few professional fight choreographers and they tend to make it their business to learn multiple styles to keep things &quot;fresh&quot;.  (The first wave of MMA choreographers comes to mind.)  I've also known a few professional warriors who &quot;collect&quot; styles, attaining at least a basic level of mastery in everything they can in order to be fully prepared for any potential opponent.  Thanks for weighing in!" CreationDate="2017-06-01T20:44:00.590" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15690" PostId="7544" Score="2" Text="This is multiple questions. At a minimum, you should separate the question about identifying techniques for tall people from strategies." CreationDate="2017-06-01T20:45:51.520" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15691" PostId="7544" Score="2" Text="What competitive rules are you using? Morote gari has not been legal in judo competition for several years." CreationDate="2017-06-01T20:49:46.437" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15693" PostId="7544" Score="1" Text="@mattm - corrected, thx" CreationDate="2017-06-01T20:54:55.223" UserId="8303" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15695" PostId="7544" Score="0" Text="grapple&gt;grabble, but you get the idea I assume" CreationDate="2017-06-01T21:13:19.230" UserId="8303" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15696" PostId="7544" Score="0" Text="@mattm - You are right, I haven't thought I couldn't use it in Judo. I learned that one in Ju-Jutsu. I mean the standardized Judo-Rules (I correct it)" CreationDate="2017-06-01T21:22:17.070" UserId="8303" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15697" PostId="7544" Score="2" Text="Except o-uchi-gari (needs close contact, smooth movement, low base for hip mobility), you pretty much answered your own question. In fact, you need *several*, situationally applied, techniques anyways and the ones you mention are kind of the standard-pattern. This will not help anything if you do not know about grips, tactics, distances, how to move your body, how to posit depending on opponent's grip, .... =&gt; your question misses the point and - no offence - reflects your level of (in-)experience. This needs personal coaching." CreationDate="2017-06-02T00:10:28.290" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15698" PostId="7543" Score="3" Text="Plus, understanding mistakes and weaknesses, how to trigger them, and in case how to *overcome* them needs reflection of the material, movements, situations, etc. that usually makes you a better fighter yourself, as you will spot and understand things that help you getting better, even if only marginally compared to the partner/opponent." CreationDate="2017-06-02T00:15:37.897" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15699" PostId="7544" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking - very true. I'm at this very moment trying to find my strategies. My trainer recommended to use more throws which take advantage of my size - and during the next randori I would have experimented with them and evaluate the results" CreationDate="2017-06-02T09:05:17.463" UserId="8303" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15702" PostId="7547" Score="0" Text="No idea whatsoever: there is no info for it. Did you just create it?" CreationDate="2017-06-02T13:57:06.350" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15703" PostId="7547" Score="0" Text="No. It already exists before I type the complete word." CreationDate="2017-06-02T13:58:04.160" UserId="7701" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15705" PostId="7548" Score="0" Text="Is there omote kaeshi waza?" CreationDate="2017-06-02T14:18:11.990" UserId="7701" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15706" PostId="7548" Score="0" Text="@SingleFighter I am not familiar with anything of that name. Which does not mean it does not exist." CreationDate="2017-06-02T14:19:26.480" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15707" PostId="7544" Score="2" Text="I'm a hair shorter at 1.83m but I find makikomi works well for me. Additionally with your longer leg reach you would have an advantage performing most foot sweeps." CreationDate="2017-06-02T15:48:15.173" UserId="7825" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15708" PostId="7544" Score="0" Text="@JasonSpake +1 - that's just perfect for me. Thank you very much I will try that one" CreationDate="2017-06-02T19:44:34.500" UserId="8303" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15710" PostId="7536" Score="0" Text="&quot;I feel x, y, z and q are a waste of time and it is poitics keeping me back&quot;. Maybe it is more your attitude that you know it all after 2 1/2 years (4 yrs - 1.5 yrs that politics happened) that is actually holding you back." CreationDate="2017-06-02T21:48:39.747" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15711" PostId="7550" Score="1" Text="Very good answer indeed drawing on different arts." CreationDate="2017-06-03T09:23:09.000" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15712" PostId="7547" Score="0" Text="[Meta question about the Shodokan tag](https://martialarts.meta.stackexchange.com/q/496/82)." CreationDate="2017-06-03T13:23:19.507" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15713" PostId="7297" Score="0" Text="[Meta question about the Shodokan tag](https://martialarts.meta.stackexchange.com/q/496/82)." CreationDate="2017-06-03T13:23:36.093" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15714" PostId="7549" Score="0" Text="[Meta question about the Shodokan tag](https://martialarts.meta.stackexchange.com/q/496/82)." CreationDate="2017-06-03T13:23:42.340" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15716" PostId="7543" Score="1" Text="While discussing such stuff isn't really an option during the session due to lack of time (...and breath), I have tried out your suggestions: focussing on techniques I'm still uncomfortable with while actively pointing out when an opponent keeps exhibiting particular weaknesses so far has yielded me already a few fun and rewarding rounds of sparring. Thanks!" CreationDate="2017-06-05T12:07:08.593" UserId="8302" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15717" PostId="7543" Score="0" Text="@UnbescholtenerBuerger I am glad to hear that my advise helped. Do try to talk after or before the class starts: you do not need to spend ages on it, just a &quot;think about what you want to practice with me and tell me before we start&quot; should do it." CreationDate="2017-06-05T12:13:15.793" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15718" PostId="7557" Score="2" Text="Please take the [tour](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour). It is hard to tell whether your post is really an answer to the question; it reads partly as an answer but ends with a question." CreationDate="2017-06-06T03:22:41.000" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15720" PostId="7560" Score="0" Text="This question is about non-martial arts use and is under the knife-fighting tag... is this appropriate for this site?" CreationDate="2017-06-07T16:41:39.147" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15721" PostId="7560" Score="0" Text="As far as the tag goes, I don't have enough points to create my own. I tried 6 different words and this was the only tag that cane up that was at all related. I was required to use a tag and this was the closest is could get." CreationDate="2017-06-07T17:02:50.513" UserId="3145" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15722" PostId="7560" Score="1" Text="I'm also concerned that this isn't even a martial arts question?  There's lots of wilderness forums you can probably get some really good info re: EDC for wilderness use and types of blades." CreationDate="2017-06-07T17:13:20.537" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15723" PostId="7560" Score="2" Text="@Bankuei - While I agree that the link to martial arts is more tenuous than many other questions, there are numerous posts on this site that were deemed OK despite only focusing on the fitness/health aspect of training. OP wants to know if he'll get additional benefits out of his karambit, except that they focus on EDC opportunities instead of fitness/health. I also agree that OP would be better served by going to an EDC forum, but I don't think his question is too far out of the scope of what we're doing here." CreationDate="2017-06-07T17:38:19.613" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15725" PostId="7560" Score="0" Text="I posted the question here because I figured that if any group were to be familiar with the karambit it would be this group. I thought that if some of you used it as an EDC (or didn't) I'd find that out here. I'll ask in the Great Outdoors stack too and cross link the questions for reference." CreationDate="2017-06-07T19:16:08.733" UserId="3145" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15726" PostId="7560" Score="2" Text="@Bearcat - It was a good hunch given the unusual nature of the karambit. But we're a smaller community, however, with maybe around 50 regular users that don't necessarily own a karambit (or even a knife, for that matter). The Great Outdoors stack will likely have more people to fuel a discussion on EDC knives, as they probably all own at least one knife and have an opinion to go with it." CreationDate="2017-06-08T02:20:30.447" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15727" PostId="7540" Score="0" Text="Very good answer. I would only want to point out in addition that even if the gaming technology was ready for this type of training (no lag, full range of motion, realistic speeds and all the rest), there's still the matter of actually being able to perform those techniques. While under stress of being in a real conflict." CreationDate="2017-06-08T06:53:35.820" UserId="424" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15728" PostId="7564" Score="1" Text="Good answer (even if it's a little late...). Could you explain what you mean by a 'hindu squat'?" CreationDate="2017-06-08T13:19:48.727" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15730" PostId="7565" Score="0" Text="I guess I should clarify. I didn't mean using it as a machete. I meant for small cutting tasks: whittling, cutting rope/twine, carving, etc :things that you'd use s pocket knife for. It does look challenging to sharpen." CreationDate="2017-06-08T18:45:23.190" UserId="3145" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15731" PostId="7567" Score="2" Text="What does this have to with ukemi?" CreationDate="2017-06-09T15:23:13.210" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15732" PostId="7567" Score="2" Text="You are out of sync with the question. :-)" CreationDate="2017-06-09T15:25:06.063" UserId="7701" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15737" PostId="7564" Score="0" Text="Haha, yes, occasionally I still answer old questions as there are always folk out there interested in this type of thing! As for Hindu squats, this is a bit lengthy but shows the technique (by an older guy too) https://youtu.be/bHe6Ur42GNI" CreationDate="2017-06-10T19:45:04.690" UserId="5804" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15738" PostId="7564" Score="1" Text="At what belt would I typically need to be able to perform all of this?" CreationDate="2017-06-11T13:31:19.573" UserId="7229" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15754" PostId="7573" Score="3" Text="Could you expand on what you mean by a 'range test'? Are there any links you could add to support your advice?" CreationDate="2017-06-14T08:53:52.823" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15760" PostId="7564" Score="0" Text="I would suggest any belt that requires you to kick head height. Kicking creates a massive amount of torque on the body and your body should be resilient to it." CreationDate="2017-06-14T12:46:57.337" UserId="5804" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15771" PostId="7544" Score="0" Text="I cannot speak for Judo, but as a wrestler and coach my experience has been that there are advantages to that build when it comes to positions on the ground. Standing up, my general approach would be to see if you can work 'range' find a place where you can attack/ see attacks coming, but where your opponent has to reach or move in." CreationDate="2017-06-15T15:54:35.553" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15772" PostId="7574" Score="0" Text="Verbally from my teacher Dan Docherty, chief instructor PTCCI. I'll check my books when I have a chance." CreationDate="2017-06-15T16:07:48.087" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15774" PostId="7573" Score="0" Text="Sure thing. Let me record a short video doing this, or a variation of this test. I'll edit my answer and post the link to the video as soon as possible." CreationDate="2017-06-15T21:27:10.433" UserId="8332" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15775" PostId="7571" Score="0" Text="Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been [moved to chat](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/60560/discussion-on-question-by-beofett-how-do-i-increase-my-flexibility-to-obtain-a-f)." CreationDate="2017-06-16T02:20:22.810" UserId="15" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15777" PostId="7579" Score="0" Text="Wow, the lady in the video has an impressive flexibility." CreationDate="2017-06-19T10:30:59.377" UserId="6654" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15778" PostId="7579" Score="1" Text="That's not just flexibility. It's a combination of flexibility, balance, and muscle strength, referenced to as gong li." CreationDate="2017-06-19T11:04:00.573" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15782" PostId="7579" Score="1" Text="There are six distinct named stances shown in &quot;Five basic stances of wushu&quot;." CreationDate="2017-06-19T19:24:15.417" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15783" PostId="7579" Score="0" Text="@mattm I know. It's awesome, right? Technically speaking, the one between gong pu and tu li bu has a name too. My trainer names it whenever we have to practice it, but I won't even try to attempt writing its pinyin. http://djmartialarts.com/images/Wu-Bu-Quan1.jpg That chart (coincidentally from the same site) marks the actual 5 in bold letters." CreationDate="2017-06-19T22:54:26.810" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15784" PostId="7581" Score="1" Text="Could you provide the original names of stances in pinyin, if you know them?" CreationDate="2017-06-20T06:55:28.320" UserId="6654" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15785" PostId="7580" Score="1" Text="[Versus](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0275773/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) shows why using your teeth to slide the slider of a hand gun is a really bad idea™: teeth shatter in an impressive manner. It is in the extras on the DVD I own. However, this is not related to knives at all." CreationDate="2017-06-20T09:54:02.407" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15786" PostId="7580" Score="0" Text="Depends a lot on the knife and how hard you're biting." CreationDate="2017-06-21T11:41:37.617" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15790" PostId="7587" Score="2" Text="That the pain is a part of martial arts training is clear. What I was expecting as an answer was more like, small tips to do suwariwaza/shikko correctly or better. @Sardathrion has provided such recommendations in his answer. Thank you anyway." CreationDate="2017-06-23T06:47:01.477" UserId="6654" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15791" PostId="7588" Score="2" Text="Nariyama (head of Shodokan) was Kobayashi's ushi-deshi as well as Tomiki's so there is a clear link there." CreationDate="2017-06-23T07:23:25.777" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15792" PostId="7588" Score="1" Text="Thank you for taking the time to write the answer. It is much appreciated and a good example of good answers that this site should promote." CreationDate="2017-06-23T07:24:23.130" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15793" PostId="7586" Score="2" Text="Welcome to the site. This is a nice answer indeed, with good references. I edited it slightly to remove caps 'cause there is no need to shout. ☺ However, I added bold instead to really emphasis your point. Hope that is okay with you." CreationDate="2017-06-23T07:33:43.300" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15794" PostId="7586" Score="1" Text="Thanks! I have a tendency to get lazy with formatting **sometimes**, so I absolutely don't mind at all. Constructive criticism is always welcome!" CreationDate="2017-06-23T18:58:46.487" UserId="8341" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15795" PostId="7589" Score="0" Text="I think the biggest disadvantage women have in sword fighting in general is that their decreased height requires a shorter length sword. When you have a fight between swordsmen, and there's a significant difference in sword lengths, probably the longer of the two will win. And that's just because the longer the sword is, the harder it is for the shorter of the two to enter in close enough to execute a cut without getting cut. The longer of the swords can also sweep out a larger area, which requires the opponent to be faster." CreationDate="2017-06-26T02:24:14.920" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15796" PostId="7589" Score="0" Text="And as for the center of gravity, that's for leverage. That's why it can be used to an advantage in grappling arts when there's a difference in height. In sword fighting, however, leverage plays no role except for disarms, throws, and other techniques requiring jujitsu." CreationDate="2017-06-26T02:28:47.313" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15797" PostId="7589" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand I'm not very familiar with sword fighting, but would a lower center of gravity help with throwing an opponent off balance if you're pull them by the neck? The situation I'm thinking of is if the woman uses the crossguard to throw her opponent by the neck. Kind of like using a murder stroke, but instead of hitting them with the crossguard, just using it as leverage." CreationDate="2017-06-26T02:50:28.873" UserId="7703" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15800" PostId="7591" Score="0" Text="Well, the skill argument is kind of moot since that applies to almost everything that you can do. I'm going for more of an objective/average points, like how spears have the advantages over swords in that they are long, but lose their advantage once the fight enters short range, and the reverse goes for a dagger." CreationDate="2017-06-26T08:48:38.390" UserId="7703" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15802" PostId="7591" Score="1" Text="I was going to share the common chestnut about women having a higher pain tolerance, but a quick bit of research showed that had been disproven several times over..." CreationDate="2017-06-26T13:06:31.203" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15804" PostId="7589" Score="0" Text="I'm not sure of the scenario you're describing. But if you're talking about a grapple on the neck, it requires her to get close to her opponent, inside the sword range. But that's a huge hurdle." CreationDate="2017-06-26T15:01:42.580" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15805" PostId="7591" Score="0" Text="Women tend to be more flexible than men, does flexibility help in anyway with sword fighting?" CreationDate="2017-06-26T22:01:50.933" UserId="7703" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15806" PostId="7593" Score="1" Text="Not to mention that even kimura and americana can have a bad impact." CreationDate="2017-06-27T02:42:37.227" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15807" PostId="7593" Score="2" Text="That sounds like a great question for your doctor! ← This is why medical questions are off topic, isn't it?" CreationDate="2017-06-27T07:11:59.527" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15809" PostId="7591" Score="0" Text="@A.Lau Citation needed about flexibility. Flexibility neither helps nor hinders with sword fighting provided that there is some." CreationDate="2017-06-27T07:19:56.943" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15810" PostId="7591" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion well I've read that because they're more flexible because of the requirement of childbirth" CreationDate="2017-06-27T07:21:41.520" UserId="7703" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15811" PostId="7591" Score="0" Text="@A.Lau Hip flexibility in child birth I know about. For general flexibility, I would need some reputable medical  evidence, not hear say. Child birth does not impact sword play in any way ☺." CreationDate="2017-06-27T07:39:47.443" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15813" PostId="1746" Score="0" Text="Don't forget: stances; breathing; hand techniques (1-finger, 2-finger, 3-finger, foreknuckle punch (bear claw), single-knuckle punch, single-knuckle ridgehand, bow-wrist, arc-hand, slap, backslap); foot techniques (toe kick), and about 2-dozen taekwondo kicks); throws (about 50 from judo, and about 10 from aikido); locks (thumb, toe, shoulder, knee, elbow, head) - and for some like wrist, there are several defined a la Aikido (nikkyo, sankyo, reverse nikkyo, reverse sankyo, etc)." CreationDate="2017-06-27T16:38:25.110" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15814" PostId="1746" Score="0" Text="@Wigwam please edit the post directly to add those categories" CreationDate="2017-06-27T17:59:00.197" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15815" PostId="7593" Score="1" Text="The bicep slicer focuses pressure on the middle of the arm bone. Some people's elbow will separate before the bone breaks, but I've heard of the bone breaking more often." CreationDate="2017-06-27T21:57:34.940" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15816" PostId="1746" Score="0" Text="Done.  Maybe I got a few more I can dig up if I missed.  But as you pointed out, it'll get cumbersome, and I think it's starting to show.  For value, maybe we can have a &quot;view technique&quot; link which can link to a photo, video, or spot within a video showing the technique.  I fear there will be some duplicates, as names can easily vary from style to style.  I left the Japanese in there, because, I don't know the English.  Full disclosure: I don't know judo, so, I did a screen scrape from Wikipedia.  I hope that doesn't violate rules?  Next up for me is Aikido, unless someone beats me to it." CreationDate="2017-06-28T01:05:17.250" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15817" PostId="7593" Score="0" Text="Oh yeah, forgot about the bicep slicer. The target there isn't the bone, but the muscles. It hurts. But pressing hard enough would potentially snap the humerus bone if it were very weak. Still, I think it's a more advanced technique, and by the time you're able to use it, probably you're good enough to sense when it's being done and tap before the damage occurs. But definitely something to watch out for. I think the mantra should be: Tap soon and tap often. :)" CreationDate="2017-06-28T15:23:35.027" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15821" PostId="431" Score="1" Text="As said by Miyamoto Musashi: &quot;Become acquainted with every art.&#xA;Know the Ways of all professions.&quot;" CreationDate="2017-06-29T08:22:00.497" UserId="6654" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15823" PostId="7597" Score="0" Text="You may want to look at https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/159/which-martial-arts-focus-on-self-defense?rq=1" CreationDate="2017-06-30T14:53:55.143" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15824" PostId="7601" Score="0" Text="You have three questions in there. The first two can easily be answered by a quick Google search. The last one is asking about a list of resources which we do not handle well. There are a few questions about solo learning you should check out." CreationDate="2017-06-30T16:57:55.870" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15827" PostId="7605" Score="1" Text="+1 for mentioning the use of an opponent's strength and mentioning Wing Chun" CreationDate="2017-06-30T21:15:22.033" UserId="8381" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15828" PostId="7597" Score="1" Text="@Abhas -- Fwiw, I was bullied as a kid in school before I got a black belt in Tae Kwon Do. Honestly, dealing with bullies is going to be more about learning to be calm when you're afraid and being willing and okay with feeling fear and anxiety. That kind of confidence and self-awareness is impossible to teach quickly, but I promise  you -- you don't have to beat your tormentors in a fight to be safe. As terrible as it sounds, the worst they can do to you is cause physical pain if you resist them. They're broken and taking things out on you, but you don't have to let them make you afraid. Ever." CreationDate="2017-06-30T21:19:06.153" UserId="8381" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15829" PostId="7603" Score="2" Text="While Wing Chun may be a useful tip the &quot;bulking up&quot; may or may not be. I have worked out seriously for fifteen years and bench well over my weight but am honestly puny even so. Some of us have genetics for slimness not size." CreationDate="2017-06-30T22:30:05.993" UserId="8382" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15831" PostId="7603" Score="0" Text="I believe the OP is asking for information applicable to his case, and he has not indicated that he has this genetic trait that you have. Until he indicates otherwise, I still recommend that route for his use case." CreationDate="2017-06-30T23:54:15.603" UserId="8376" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15832" PostId="7603" Score="0" Text="Fair enough - but note I did say &quot;may or may not&quot;. Given he is small presently - at the least it is clear that bulkiness were not a natural state for him." CreationDate="2017-07-01T00:07:52.077" UserId="8382" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15833" PostId="7611" Score="2" Text="This does not answer the question." CreationDate="2017-07-01T07:08:33.877" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15835" PostId="7611" Score="0" Text="It does if you research. Read the book. Google good sources. And more importantly, find a legitimate bujinkan dojo. Train with them and you'll learn the history of the techniques seen in Aikido. After 8 years, or so, and a few trips to Japan; they might start telling you the true stories from the old scrolls, the original scrolls of the early teachers. Hontai Takagi Yoshin Ryu, for example, dates back to around 1625." CreationDate="2017-07-01T07:49:35.377" UserId="8384" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15836" PostId="7597" Score="3" Text="Gong fu (kung fu) translates to skill obtained by hard work over time, which is the opposite of fast and easy." CreationDate="2017-07-01T12:43:05.470" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15837" PostId="7614" Score="2" Text="I think it might help if you edit your question to address why you want to take up martial arts (fun, fitness, self-defense, etc.) other than that it is more about the individual teacher, rather than the art since you know you want a striking art." CreationDate="2017-07-01T14:24:40.723" UserId="6083" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15839" PostId="7610" Score="0" Text="`One of the things that made [Bruce Lee] controversial was that he added western style weight training to his regimen.` That's an interesting piece of trivia I haven't heard before. I'll be sure to research that in the future. Thanks." CreationDate="2017-07-01T18:59:38.933" UserId="7665" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15840" PostId="7613" Score="0" Text="I have edited your comment, since I suspect you might have gotten a downvote purely from the style of your answer. (The edit will show up once it goes through the peer-review process.)" CreationDate="2017-07-01T19:07:59.750" UserId="7665" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15841" PostId="7613" Score="1" Text="But there's a chance you actually got a downvote for substance: I'm not particularly knowledgable on this topic, but doesn't parkour require both substantial upper- and lower-body strength, what with all the climbing and falling and running? (As in, OP mentioned in the question he/she is physically pretty weak.)" CreationDate="2017-07-01T19:09:46.133" UserId="7665" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15842" PostId="7614" Score="1" Text="Teacher matters more than style.  Visit a variety of studios - there are multiple answers on this forum that advise you on how to evaluate a school. My Tai Chi school would fit your criteria, but most would not; if you screened by style first, you'd miss an opportunity.    Don't forget weapons schools - you can practice weapons solo and do sparring without head shots.    But ultimately, visit teachers and choose based on teachers and senior students. Choose based on what you see on the mat." CreationDate="2017-07-01T20:21:19.167" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15845" PostId="7597" Score="0" Text="You live by the sword, you die by the sword. Do not try to fight bullies, that is not how you deal with those kind of people. If you do not give them a reason to bother you then you should be fine. My one friend used to always say when someone asked him what he would do if someone wanted to pick a fight with him: &quot;Why do I want to fight? I can drive, I will just run him over.&quot; Basically stick to what you are good at. If you are good with people maybe you can have some friends around that would discourage bullying." CreationDate="2017-07-01T23:56:30.883" UserId="8391" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15846" PostId="7613" Score="2" Text="Participation in parkour would serve as a general strength and fitness training regimen. Virtually everyone has agreed that improving his general level of fitness is as important for his true goal as training in a martial art." CreationDate="2017-07-02T02:01:42.893" UserId="6599" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15849" PostId="7611" Score="2" Text="If you have more information to add then you should - please don't just suggest that people &quot;google it&quot;. People come here for definitive answers, not vague discussion or suggestions to train more and read the history." CreationDate="2017-07-02T11:37:23.323" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15850" PostId="7611" Score="0" Text="I did. The requested information or &quot;insight&quot; that was requested shouldn't be handed out freely. It should be earned. Aikido is one of the youngest Martial Arts and, honestly, is just like Judo in that it is merely techniques borrowed from JuJutsu. So when I hear someone is fascinated by an Aikido move, I have to assume they know little about the history of Japanese martial arts and probably won't put in the time on the mats." CreationDate="2017-07-02T23:49:17.507" UserId="8384" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15851" PostId="7611" Score="0" Text="With that said, reading Ueshiba's book will give the reader insight into why he broke away from the traditional combat arts. Which is why I recommended it to the OP. It's the first step down the right path." CreationDate="2017-07-02T23:51:28.227" UserId="8384" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15852" PostId="7616" Score="2" Text="I would strongly suggest you removed the first paragraph as it is neither funny nor useful. The rest is a good answer but that paragraph stops me from upvoting it." CreationDate="2017-07-03T06:32:12.167" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15854" PostId="7611" Score="0" Text="Ueshiba has **nothing whatsoever** to do with the ura-waza. Also, your &quot;should be earned&quot; is demeaning. Please [be nice](https://stackoverflow.com/help/be-nice)." CreationDate="2017-07-03T11:06:15.847" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15857" PostId="7606" Score="0" Text="&quot;with very little pressure&quot; - sure, because all bullies are made of glass" CreationDate="2017-07-03T13:52:02.577" UserId="8376" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15858" PostId="7603" Score="0" Text="@javadba, that is a valid but separate subject with separate Q&amp;A (https://fitness.stackexchange.com/questions/23994/gym-3-times-a-week-no-muscle-gain)" CreationDate="2017-07-03T13:58:53.343" UserId="8376" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15859" PostId="7604" Score="0" Text="what are some resources for free to learn kung fu online?" CreationDate="2017-07-03T14:04:06.110" UserDisplayName="user8373" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15860" PostId="7603" Score="0" Text="Your answer would benefit from the caveat mentioned. It is your answer so you decide - but it is not accurate to simply relegate it to a different question.  Your answer is depending on the *impression* that people get by just *looking* at someone. This approach will not work for many of us." CreationDate="2017-07-03T14:11:47.967" UserId="8382" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15861" PostId="7603" Score="0" Text="@javadba. Thank you. I elaborated my answer. I *don't* speak from impressions. I speak from real experience and based on the answers I see from others such as pojo-guy and Kalmino (other people with real martial arts training also) they tend to agree with at least some of what I have to say, and I agree with their comments. If you think you can make better comments than these, please do so and lets see your upvotes." CreationDate="2017-07-03T14:28:51.187" UserId="8376" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15862" PostId="7588" Score="0" Text="Bounty awarded. I found a more accurate answer. However, this answer is historically interesting and well researched thus deserved a bounty." CreationDate="2017-07-04T11:55:04.147" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15864" PostId="7625" Score="1" Text="This is asking for list of things which StackExchange does not do well at all. Please read [the help on what not to ask](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help/dont-ask)." CreationDate="2017-07-05T13:01:34.813" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15865" PostId="7625" Score="0" Text="&quot;Celebrity&quot; may be too broad. Of course there are some actors and even musicians known for it (eg. Jackie Chan, or Andy Lau), but eg. Mayweather, Klytsjko, Badr Hari, Hulk Hogan, etc. are all celebrities too. Do you want a list of all known boxers, UFC fighters, K1 fighters, etc?" CreationDate="2017-07-05T14:18:08.770" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15866" PostId="7625" Score="1" Text="@Raf The problem here is not the definition of celebrity. It is the asking for a list of things which cannot be answered definitively as per the [FAQ](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help/dont-ask). This is why poll or list questions are always off topic on stack exchange sites. [What is the definition of a list question?](https://meta.stackexchange.com/q/124450/227017) Those questions are much better suited to a forum." CreationDate="2017-07-05T14:54:23.063" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15867" PostId="7625" Score="0" Text="This question would be better if you narrowed it down - style, level of achievement... something.  Do you mean celebrities that the US knows? Because there's plenty of celebrity martial artists from the 90s HK movie scene.  How much martial arts training? Like, before or outside of acting/singing/whatever? Many stars end up doing training for specific roles, too." CreationDate="2017-07-05T17:00:35.667" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15868" PostId="7627" Score="2" Text="This does not answer either of the questions: is it worth practicing alone? How should I do it in the most efficient way?" CreationDate="2017-07-06T01:20:08.333" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15869" PostId="7626" Score="0" Text="Just to be pedantic, Chuck Norris was a celeb *because* of his martial arts ([his original art is Karate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Norris#Martial_arts_career)), he was a multiple world champ (FWIW) and he had celebrity clients when he taught - all before he got into movies and TV." CreationDate="2017-07-06T04:05:11.700" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15870" PostId="7629" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the answer...... sorry that as i already accepted other answer, i dont want to unaccept it......" CreationDate="2017-07-06T13:24:30.913" UserId="8401" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15871" PostId="7629" Score="3" Text="… And this, right here, is why list questions are frowned upon on stack…" CreationDate="2017-07-06T14:16:50.747" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15872" PostId="7632" Score="0" Text="Also: what you can learn from striking arts without a partner is more limited than what you think.  You can certainly get your ability to deliver force quite well on your own with a heavy bag or target.  But the timing, reach, and reading opponent's movements still work best with a partner.  In fact, those are things you can improve despite any issues of age, and often are where older fighters can win over faster, stronger, young ones." CreationDate="2017-07-06T15:29:34.650" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15875" PostId="7631" Score="0" Text="I'll admit that I'm a bit iffy on the answer. On one hand, the first part is good, that you really need to learn with other people. The latter part feels like &quot;But instead of that style, check out my style because it's better.&quot;" CreationDate="2017-07-06T20:32:23.553" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15876" PostId="7631" Score="1" Text="@SeanDuggan OP called himself a &quot;weak person&quot;. I would hate to see some nonathletic guy throwing YouTube kung fu kicks in their bedroom and think they magically know how to fight. The best way to learn what works in the real world is to just do it. MMA is the closest rule set to real life that you can spar with and not have anyone die. So yes, I avoided the style he brought up, but only because it's extremely dangerous to believe in one's own fighting ability without rigorously testing that ability. If OP is strictly doing it for fun, and not fighting ability/self defense, have at it!" CreationDate="2017-07-06T21:22:34.253" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15885" PostId="7634" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site. Nice simple question." CreationDate="2017-07-09T07:21:42.410" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15887" PostId="7638" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site. Very nice question indeed." CreationDate="2017-07-10T21:05:55.270" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15888" PostId="7636" Score="0" Text="Explained (I hope) differences from the possible duplicate question" CreationDate="2017-07-11T08:04:58.547" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15889" PostId="7636" Score="1" Text="Yes, that works for me. Thank you for taking the time to do this. Up vote coming your way." CreationDate="2017-07-11T08:05:32.633" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15890" PostId="7638" Score="0" Text="Indeed it's a good question. Gi is one form of dress while no gi trains you to adapt your self for different kind of scenarios. E.g.: You can have a nice grip with Gi, but against a no Gi opponent, it'll be a different situation. I'm just adding this comment since am not sure about the answer though." CreationDate="2017-07-11T08:15:13.293" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15891" PostId="62" Score="0" Text="I wish this would not state that &quot;ITF is North Korean&quot;. It's not accurate, or at least debatable. I [read]( ITF is North Korean) that ITF originated in South Korea, taking a diverging path from what would become &quot;WTF Taekwon-do&quot;." CreationDate="2017-07-11T12:20:16.540" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15894" PostId="7643" Score="1" Text="I disagree with &quot;don't mix one with the other&quot;. Grappling is grappling. An underhook is an underhook. The fundamentals of posture, base, weight distribution, head position, etc. all apply in all forms of submission grappling. Many techniques you learn in gi are easily adapted to nogi. Also, everything you learn in nogi WILL just work in gi. It's that simple. I've seen plenty of nogi only guys wreck house in gi tournaments because they just play their game." CreationDate="2017-07-12T16:00:58.297" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15895" PostId="7638" Score="1" Text="Dave Liepmann's answer to another question on the gi/no-gi issue is worth reading: https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/5495/5961" CreationDate="2017-07-12T16:09:49.650" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15896" PostId="7635" Score="1" Text="I think flexibility/agility is another potential trade-off worth mentioning. Met too many bulky men unable to perform certain crucial movements. Bodybuilding tends to lead to vulnerabilities, but that's not necessary if paired with e.g. pilates." CreationDate="2017-07-12T16:51:18.097" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15897" PostId="7643" Score="0" Text="@coinbird The point isn't that they won't interchange, but in learning them try to keep an open mind as some may not be the exact same in each way and it's important to learn them properly instead of assuming one knows it cause they learned it in the other one.  Obviously if the move is the exact same in both then it's not an issue, but best not to assume everything is the same.  That's the only point, not that they won't work in competition or once they are learned." CreationDate="2017-07-12T20:16:59.580" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15898" PostId="7649" Score="4" Text="Different types of meditation do things differently.  Is your meditation practice tied to a martial art practice? You may want to check out the [Buddhism SE](https://buddhism.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/meditation) or the [Hinduism SE](https://hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/meditation)  both of which also have meditation tags and deal with the topic in a more broad context." CreationDate="2017-07-13T13:32:46.893" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15899" PostId="7649" Score="0" Text="I believe that meditation is a crucial part in martial arts." CreationDate="2017-07-13T13:35:54.587" UserId="8427" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15900" PostId="7649" Score="0" Text="I am practicing meditation for better concentration and mindfulness." CreationDate="2017-07-13T13:36:58.557" UserId="8427" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15901" PostId="7649" Score="4" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because in its current form, it has nothing to do with martial arts. If the meditation was linked to a specific art it might be answerable." CreationDate="2017-07-13T13:51:05.200" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15902" PostId="7649" Score="0" Text="Don't you know  meditation is strongly connected with Kung-Fu,Kalaripayatu etc.? @Sardathrion" CreationDate="2017-07-13T13:54:22.217" UserId="8427" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15903" PostId="7649" Score="2" Text="Are you seeking mediation advise on Kung-Fu or Kalaripayatu or some other martial art? If so, please tag the question appropriately. If your question is about generic meditation, it has no place here. We are expects in martial arts, not meditation." CreationDate="2017-07-13T14:09:07.650" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15906" PostId="7649" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site. Please do take [the tour](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour) to see how this site works. Probably should have said that first. ☺" CreationDate="2017-07-13T14:22:14.373" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15912" PostId="7649" Score="3" Text="Meditation is connected with many, but not all, martial arts.  Different arts use different practices, and many arts contain different meditations which are dissimilar in goals as well.  Without further context, and no tie to a martial arts goal/root, you are really best served by one of the other Stack Exchanges." CreationDate="2017-07-13T16:14:38.827" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15914" PostId="7649" Score="2" Text="You are asking about Buddhist meditation instructions in terms of Hindu concepts to a group that may have no familiarity with either of these meditative traditions. Each tradition has its own preferred practices and theories for them. Although all meditation may lead to better concentration and mindfulness, you should pick ONE path to follow initially, lest you end up completely lost." CreationDate="2017-07-13T18:15:06.140" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15925" PostId="7638" Score="0" Text="@mattm I really should have read that comment and Dave Liepmann's answer before doing a bounty … ☺" CreationDate="2017-07-14T09:15:40.470" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15926" PostId="7630" Score="1" Text="I think the &quot;I prefer striking rather than wrestling/grappling&quot; rules out styles like Jiu Jitsu and Judo." CreationDate="2017-07-14T12:32:37.933" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15927" PostId="7614" Score="0" Text="Summarizing the preferences: avoid wrestling/grappling; avoid head strikes while training; include light/no contact sparring." CreationDate="2017-07-14T12:35:31.817" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15928" PostId="7638" Score="4" Text="The Gracies have stated that learning with the gi first is important, for the fact that it teaches the technical side of jiujitsu much better than without a gi. I think they went on to say that those that train with the gi do better in no-gi competition than those that train exclusively without the gi. You'll have to dig for the quotes, I don't have the sources right now. But I've read this over and over again, so it must be out there." CreationDate="2017-07-14T15:46:29.597" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15929" PostId="7653" Score="0" Text="You come up with some really detailed historical questions...makes an interesting site." CreationDate="2017-07-14T16:42:36.980" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15930" PostId="7594" Score="0" Text="Having a lower center is, debatably, a potential advantage, although it can be offset by reach. Strength and reflex speed and how they combine are other considerations. To be clear, not brute dead-weight strength, but rather tensile strength." CreationDate="2017-07-14T23:29:00.310" UserId="8400" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15931" PostId="2811" Score="0" Text="It's not inaccurate to say that Kubota invented the kubotan, but it is related to Matsuyama's yawara, and these types of small sticks have been around for centuries. There are some folks who think there are large differences between the weapons, but I would argue that it is how they are used that makes the most difference. A couple of resources are: http://www.donrearic.com/yawara.html and https://yawarastick.com/history-of-the-kubotan/" CreationDate="2017-07-14T23:44:51.110" UserId="8400" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15933" PostId="7660" Score="2" Text="Hi - different arts have different strengths &amp; weaknesses.  Would you like to add some of the arguments/ideas from the videos into your question or link the videos so people have more context to work with in answering your question?" CreationDate="2017-07-16T16:42:46.217" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15934" PostId="7660" Score="1" Text="You've probably heard echoes of the [story](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/10/world/asia/mma-martial-arts-china-tai-chi.html) of a chinese MMA fighter in a quest to prove that  &quot;traditional Chinese martial arts are a fraud&quot;." CreationDate="2017-07-16T19:48:20.210" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15935" PostId="7660" Score="1" Text="I've seen a few different videos doing comparative boxing/wing chun.  I'm curious what OP's stance is, bc there's a chance some of what I've seen builds on, or refutes, but without the original context I don't know?" CreationDate="2017-07-16T21:59:37.263" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15936" PostId="7663" Score="3" Text="This is why stack named those questions a [shark vs gorilla](https://stackoverflow.blog/2011/08/16/gorilla-vs-shark/) one." CreationDate="2017-07-17T08:26:15.813" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15937" PostId="7663" Score="0" Text="Didn't know it had an official name. Gonna read up on that article, as I got a bit of spare time today. Thanks!" CreationDate="2017-07-17T08:34:22.533" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15938" PostId="7660" Score="1" Text="In its current form, this is a [Shark vs Gorilla](https://stackoverflow.blog/2011/08/16/gorilla-vs-shark/) question. However, I think there is an interesting question buried in there about contrasting Wing Chun and Boxing. This is something Bruce Lee has talked about …" CreationDate="2017-07-17T09:00:49.267" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15943" PostId="7669" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site. My reading of the [The Crown Prosecution Service  guidlines](https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/self_defence/) seems to disagree with your answer: the term &quot;unlawful force&quot; does not exist therein. You might well have to prove that you used reasonable force in defending yourself if you end up on the accused bench, something that can easily happen. Could you clarify your answer?" CreationDate="2017-07-17T14:56:37.577" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15944" PostId="7665" Score="0" Text="I know these exist - I'm interested in hearing from anyone who has had some experience with any of these and what the pros/cons are etc." CreationDate="2017-07-17T16:13:15.303" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15945" PostId="7665" Score="0" Text="You could always go full throttle on a standing one and take it down to the ground to grapple.  I don't think that will keep good form though as much as a good anger management outlet..." CreationDate="2017-07-17T19:19:45.493" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15946" PostId="1919" Score="2" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's asking for legal advice, which is listed as off-topic in the Help Centre (https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic)." CreationDate="2017-07-17T19:34:23.820" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15947" PostId="7669" Score="1" Text="My understanding of the legal situation in the UK is that you are allowed to use reasonable force to defend yourself, but there is no definition of what constitutes reasonable force. Don't get into trouble in the first place and you have no need to worry about legality! (That's what I teach my own students.) Of course, I am not a lawyer, so this is just my opinion." CreationDate="2017-07-17T19:39:46.150" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15948" PostId="7672" Score="1" Text="Nice going...that is pretty darn close." CreationDate="2017-07-18T03:11:47.890" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15949" PostId="7669" Score="0" Text="@MikeP My reading of [The Crown Prosecution Service guidlines](https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/self_defence/) as well as extensive discussion with UK LEO personal (who too have to use &quot;reasonable force&quot;) agrees with your analysis." CreationDate="2017-07-18T07:06:22.900" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15950" PostId="7672" Score="1" Text="I had very little hope that this question would find an answer. And here it is. Many thanks indeed." CreationDate="2017-07-18T07:14:45.240" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15956" PostId="1925" Score="0" Text="I'm in my 40s, tried Tom Kurz very simple daily exercises in [this article](http://fightingarts.com/reading/article.php?id=256) ,and my kicks got much better in a 1-2 weeks." CreationDate="2017-07-18T20:06:58.810" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15958" PostId="7676" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site. I would strongly suggest you took the [tour](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour) to see how this site works. Sadly, this answer does not answer the question and is more of a question in itself. This will attract down votes." CreationDate="2017-07-19T07:09:32.950" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15959" PostId="7677" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site. I edited your question a little. I am unsure what you mean by &quot;ki extension&quot; as ki has no real definition, could you clarify? I also added a iwama tag, since you practice it and if you wished, consider editing it to add more information." CreationDate="2017-07-19T07:12:33.617" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15960" PostId="7675" Score="1" Text="Nice question which would be much improved by references…" CreationDate="2017-07-19T07:31:54.083" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15961" PostId="7679" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site. Sadly, this question is about medical &quot;what ifs&quot; and medical advise which are both off topic. I suggest you look at the [tour](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour) and the [help center](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help)." CreationDate="2017-07-19T08:16:35.173" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15964" PostId="7680" Score="1" Text="Heavyweight boxers are more likely to die in the ring due to sudden head trauma. Lightweight boxers are more likely to suffer from the longterm results due to spending a longer amount of time getting lesser trauma over and over again." CreationDate="2017-07-19T11:34:05.693" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15965" PostId="7682" Score="1" Text="I have never had a headache after a training in which I had received a blow to the head. I completely agree with you regarding your last point, this is what I try to do." CreationDate="2017-07-19T13:30:27.420" UserId="8439" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15966" PostId="7683" Score="0" Text="Is this SCA-style light fencing? Another HEMA style?" CreationDate="2017-07-19T13:30:43.857" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15967" PostId="7682" Score="0" Text="@Grandmaster Good to hear. Again, that doesn't guarantee your brain wasn't damaged, but it's a pretty good sign. I've had friends after fights confined to wearing sunglasses everywhere they go, even indoors, for weeks on end. I've been smashed up pretty good myself and had to lay in a dark room for a couple days. Brain injuries are no joke." CreationDate="2017-07-19T13:57:01.757" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15970" PostId="7679" Score="2" Text="@Sardathrion This could easily fall under the acceptable, &quot;Injury prevention within the context of martial arts training&quot;. My answer was provided in this context, as was another answer here." CreationDate="2017-07-19T19:29:03.080" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15971" PostId="7665" Score="0" Text="In my experience EVERY grappling dummy doubles as a punching bag. Thick leather outer, dense inner padding. Do you have one that doesn't fit this criteria?" CreationDate="2017-07-19T19:32:12.860" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15972" PostId="7682" Score="0" Text="Had you received a big blow? Were you knocked out? I hope you have recovered well. Have you had headaches again after the recovery process?" CreationDate="2017-07-19T20:08:56.360" UserId="8439" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15974" PostId="7665" Score="0" Text="Thanks, @coinbird. I would like to use the dummy the same as Bob. It means that it will be able to stay on its own and have balance while boxing. In addition, I'll be able to use it for grappling." CreationDate="2017-07-19T20:32:20.840" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15975" PostId="7682" Score="1" Text="@Grandmaster I'm an MMA fighter, so yes, I've been hit pretty hard. I've had my nose smashed to little pieces. I've been kicked in the back of the head (brain stem), which shuts the lights off for a couple seconds. I've never been knocked out cold, but I've had headaches after fighting, hard sparring, and the occasional grappling tournament if I bonked my head. It's all part of the game though. Just gotta respect the recovery process. I'm a huge proponent of taking time off to allow head injuries uninterrupted healing." CreationDate="2017-07-19T20:41:24.867" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15976" PostId="7687" Score="0" Text="Of course, if you're looking for options closer to you, it's even less likely that you'll find these if you can't find any kung fu schools that even have a secondary tiger style as training." CreationDate="2017-07-19T21:29:39.240" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15977" PostId="7687" Score="0" Text="Thank you! That gives me a good starting point! I wish I had a high enough reputation to upvote your answer." CreationDate="2017-07-19T21:47:06.683" UserId="3145" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15978" PostId="7688" Score="0" Text="How to prepare is quite vague. There are ways to prepare your hands for clawing. There are ways to prepare your wrists for claws (other claws). Or you can do general fitness (running, pushups, situps, basic stances, stretching, ... ). If you can be a bit more specific, we can help you out better." CreationDate="2017-07-19T21:48:47.780" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15979" PostId="7688" Score="0" Text="Yes, that was vague. I apologise. I was asking along the lines of finger, hand and wrist preparation, and any activity that would be especially helpful for this type of claw style." CreationDate="2017-07-19T22:01:14.563" UserId="3145" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15980" PostId="7688" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the clarification! I'll start on your answer right away :D" CreationDate="2017-07-19T22:50:19.800" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15981" PostId="7676" Score="1" Text="It looks to me like Peter has phrased his answer in the form of a question (maybe due to politeness or uncertainty). If you replace *Would it be correct to say* with *I would suggest* then it makes perfect sense as an answer." CreationDate="2017-07-20T02:05:07.313" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15982" PostId="7687" Score="0" Text="No worries.  Hope you find something you can train in and have a good time with!" CreationDate="2017-07-20T02:17:33.660" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15983" PostId="7690" Score="0" Text="Thank you for the detailed and educational answer. I'll start working on these and vote it up when i have the stackexchange reputation to do so." CreationDate="2017-07-20T06:28:34.763" UserId="3145" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15984" PostId="7690" Score="0" Text="Would you mind going into &quot;Tiger Claw&quot; a little bit more. I'm working on this finger position and there are so many ways to get this incorrect. Do i want to lock the joints of my fingers, so they pop a bit when i flex them into a fist from that position?  Doing a google search shows a lot of variation.  I'm also wondering if this &quot;eagle catcher&quot; would help (amazon link):  https://goo.gl/2UYUPR" CreationDate="2017-07-20T06:43:58.227" UserId="3145" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15985" PostId="7691" Score="2" Text="I dont think this needs to be specific to Alabama, or Tae-kwon-do - I am sure the same problem exists regardless of location and art" CreationDate="2017-07-20T08:00:33.680" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15986" PostId="7690" Score="0" Text="Tiger claw can be seen here: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a8/17/90/a81790e34667777c3f826c03a0c92fce--kungfu-qigong.jpg and http://img11.deviantart.net/808d/i/2010/253/9/e/request__tiger_claw_pose_by_tntjperic-d2yfx0x.jpg and http://blackbeltmag.com/wp-content/uploads/Five-Fighting-Animal-Styles--e1302543926536.jpg.&#xA;&#xA;You lock them, so you can dig them into your target. Imagine hitting someone with it, the fingers should dig deep into soft tissue. Try the claw out on your arm. You won't dig into it, obviously, but if the fingers bend along, it's not right." CreationDate="2017-07-20T08:16:22.727" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15987" PostId="7693" Score="0" Text="The well known yeop chagi aims to strike and hurt with your foot; the mireo chagi aims to push away the opponent. Does hapkido have these two side kick variants?" CreationDate="2017-07-20T08:24:13.083" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15989" PostId="7679" Score="0" Text="@coinbird It *could* possibly would fit within injury prevention but to me still reads as &quot;what if&quot;: they are asking if there are risks, not how to minimise said risks.If any of the current answers were more woolly, they would baa. None has any references or data to back them up, all say the exact same things, paraphrased. Meh…" CreationDate="2017-07-20T08:59:00.510" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15990" PostId="7693" Score="0" Text="yes, Hapkido have both of them, my sabeum also have Taekwondo black belt and he said that almost all of Taekwondo kick is also learned on Hapkido (with some addition from Taekkyon, i believe)" CreationDate="2017-07-20T09:02:38.217" UserId="7872" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15991" PostId="2466" Score="1" Text="This is not correct: the Kukkiwon Taegeuk forms all represent I Ching trigrams, and this is not incidental but by design." CreationDate="2017-07-20T09:20:39.173" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15992" PostId="7687" Score="0" Text="On that chat room you opened… You don't have to leave an answer, but lemme know if you saw my comments. Thanks." CreationDate="2017-07-20T14:14:46.463" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15993" PostId="5086" Score="0" Text="4 years and black belt? Come on..." CreationDate="2017-07-20T16:28:43.270" UserId="2041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15994" PostId="7561" Score="1" Text="I saw the title and came here expecting some puns, I'm a little bit disappointed." CreationDate="2017-07-20T16:47:10.883" UserId="2041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15995" PostId="7687" Score="0" Text="Apparently SE has the worst chat room notification system ever, I guess? I answered again in your room.  Gah." CreationDate="2017-07-20T16:58:43.617" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15996" PostId="7690" Score="0" Text="Excellent!  Those illustrations work well.  I can tell when i've got it because my fingers and forearms ache (especially my ring fingers), and i can only do it for a minute at a time. I'll build that up!" CreationDate="2017-07-21T03:02:28.187" UserId="3145" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15997" PostId="7638" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand While it may sound like blasphemy, the Gracies aren't the most reliable source for BJJ knowledge anymore. They are notorious for resisting change in the sport. They even talk down on the 10th Planet BJJ system, which has proven to be extremely effective even at the highest levels (Abu Dhabi, The UFC, worlds, etc.) The gi is NOT more technical. I say they're the same in technical ability, but some would argue nogi is more technique intensive. I could go on, but rather than take it from me I urge you to do some further research if the topic interests you!" CreationDate="2017-07-21T13:52:26.100" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="15999" PostId="7672" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion: Congrats! It seemed a little too new for your purposes, but in the absence of anything earlier..." CreationDate="2017-07-24T11:47:11.963" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16001" PostId="7672" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion: Before I make another slight tweak, do you consider yourself to be singular or plural in third person?" CreationDate="2017-07-24T12:21:18.100" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16002" PostId="7672" Score="0" Text="☺ I tend to use the plural when talking about a person those gender is unknown. In this case, as is clear from other posts, you might as well use &quot;he&quot; if you want. I was not sure how to edit this as it is your answer, not mine. It left weird using &quot;I&quot; even with a &quot;Sardathrion speaks now&quot; header…" CreationDate="2017-07-24T12:25:24.213" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16003" PostId="7672" Score="0" Text="Clearly, feel free to edit it all so it reads like your writing." CreationDate="2017-07-24T12:25:54.497" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16004" PostId="7672" Score="0" Text="^_^ Pronouns can be so tricky these days, and I didn't want to offend. &quot;I contain multitudes&quot; - Walt Whitman." CreationDate="2017-07-24T12:37:13.320" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16005" PostId="7672" Score="0" Text="It is actually quiet hard to offend me … Pronoun is not going to even come close! Were you to use the feminine, I might raise an eyebrow as I imagine myself in drags, but that's about it. ☺" CreationDate="2017-07-25T08:15:11.677" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16006" PostId="7709" Score="0" Text="I strongly suspect that &quot;samurai wore long enough hakama to hide their feet&quot; is a modern urban legend. It does not sit well with the Japanese cleanlinesses: They remove their shoes and wash their feet before heading indoors yet have hakama that trail the ground… Hum…" CreationDate="2017-07-27T13:36:47.633" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16007" PostId="7709" Score="2" Text="{nods} I think the fashion explanation is more likely as per http://www.guillaumeerard.com/daito-ryu-aiki-jujutsu/articles/why-do-yudansha-wear-hakama" CreationDate="2017-07-27T13:38:45.360" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16009" PostId="7709" Score="0" Text="I have also been told that it helps to make the wearer more aware of their centre as it adds the (slight) extra weight and slows the wearer down to stop them rushing technique.&#xA;&#xA;(Probably should have been an answer but its only hearsay and if anything an extension of Sean's Answer)" CreationDate="2017-07-27T14:37:22.503" UserId="6415" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16010" PostId="7710" Score="2" Text="Total tangent: the appendix is now thought to have a function in the immune and endocrine systems: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-is-the-function-of-the-human-appendix-did-it-once-have-a-purpose-that-has-since-been-lost/" CreationDate="2017-07-27T18:05:17.140" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16011" PostId="7687" Score="0" Text="Sorry, i just saw these two responses. Uh ... what chat room? Would you mind reposting it here if it was to me?" CreationDate="2017-07-27T23:10:01.090" UserId="3145" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16013" PostId="7710" Score="1" Text="As to sawari-waza, it is very useful for getting power from the core and teaching a few basic principles. However, chances are you are never going to be attacked in that position! Unless you are in some weird stuff." CreationDate="2017-07-28T07:40:53.540" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16014" PostId="7713" Score="1" Text="This only answers the question right at the end. Most of the answer focuses on something I have not asked." CreationDate="2017-07-28T07:43:06.413" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16018" PostId="5086" Score="0" Text="Just Taekwondo things" CreationDate="2017-07-28T10:03:34.740" UserId="1200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16019" PostId="7710" Score="1" Text="Your comment on swari-waza could lead to a &quot;benefits of suwari-waza&quot; question… I would certainly both answer and upvote such." CreationDate="2017-07-28T11:42:10.633" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16021" PostId="7709" Score="0" Text="I asked [Did samurai wore long enough hakama to hide their feet?](https://history.stackexchange.com/q/39223/103) on history." CreationDate="2017-07-28T12:00:37.427" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16022" PostId="7710" Score="1" Text="Lol Looks like I've been schooled in hakama, sawari-waza, and appendices! or is it appendixes?  appendii? appendixum?  :-/  Thanks, and i posed a new question on sawari-waza practice." CreationDate="2017-07-28T13:09:56.533" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16023" PostId="7687" Score="0" Text="Hi Bearcat, no worries.  Sandathrion and I have been trying to talk about a non-related topic for weeks and SE has not made it easy.  It's unrelated to your topic." CreationDate="2017-07-28T13:45:34.680" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16024" PostId="7714" Score="1" Text="Related to [Getting more comfortable sitting in 正座 (seiza)](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/7330/82)…" CreationDate="2017-07-28T14:04:34.933" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16028" PostId="7716" Score="6" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because martial arts don't really cover self harm AND, more importantly, there's a whole sector of the internet of people looking for possible methods of suicide - even assuming someone comes up with a meaningful answer, it would be on the same level as harmful medical advice, which is disallowed here." CreationDate="2017-07-29T19:43:04.390" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16031" PostId="7716" Score="0" Text="@Bankuei I think it's clear we're talking about a fictional realm here, since it'd be quite impractical for someone to become an expert, years of study, etc., just to take his own life. Sure, there could be some experts out there who turn to suicide, but those wouldn't probably be asking SO. I know nothing about martial arts, but I figure targeting one's neck could be a start. However, as a non-expert, it'd be foolish to hit myself, as that'd cause at best only pain, and at worst disablement, but not death, and once disabled, there's no second chance. That's why IMO only an expert could do it." CreationDate="2017-07-30T11:47:41.443" UserId="951" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16032" PostId="7716" Score="1" Text="I was looking up stuff on chokeholds awhile back - ended up finding entire forums of people looking for techniques on suicide trying to figure out ways to utilize that knowledge for self harm.  That alone makes it a rather sketchy place to provide an real information, including informed guesses, on the topic of self harm." CreationDate="2017-07-30T15:05:08.293" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16033" PostId="7716" Score="2" Text="IMO this &quot;what if&quot; type of question is more likely to bring speculation than a real use for readers." CreationDate="2017-07-30T20:07:23.710" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16034" PostId="7716" Score="2" Text="Also flagged as off topic because it falls between general medical advice and self harm" CreationDate="2017-07-30T20:36:12.907" UserId="6599" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16035" PostId="7705" Score="1" Text="*&quot;From a purely physics POV, there is no difference between a push, thrust, or pierce (or even a block and parry...) All involve a movement along a vector, and the thing moving is met with an object along that vector. The name of the technique usually boils down to intent.&quot;* - not so in the TKD circles I've mixed in - for example, the difference between piercing and thrusting kicks is explained [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTtyTOLqnoc) - because of the different hip mechanics, the piercing kick is inherently far less useful for pushing an opponent." CreationDate="2017-07-31T12:39:07.610" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16036" PostId="7705" Score="0" Text="The video is fine, but it compares 2 different kicks, each from a different direction, so it isn't fair to compare them.  In Choi's book, both (actually, all 3) are shown with the back foot to kick forward.  In this manner, all three kicks are identical, even hips, except that the pierce = blade, the thrust = ball of toe, and the push = blade (because the pierce does).  TBH, I don't use any of these methods, always preferring to use the heel, even if pushing.  Thrust, pierce, push = same.  All my instructors do the same.  Thanks for sharing the video" CreationDate="2017-07-31T21:16:06.873" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16037" PostId="7716" Score="1" Text="Yes, plenty of ways to kill oneself. Don't even need martial arts. And no, we're not telling you, for obvious reasons." CreationDate="2017-08-01T03:08:13.190" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16038" PostId="7716" Score="0" Text="@DanielReis Yours is the only reason against answering this question that resonates with me." CreationDate="2017-08-01T09:24:38.580" UserId="951" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16039" PostId="7623" Score="0" Text="Do you know *when* the aikido kata was conceived? I guess it has strong links to judo goshin-jutsu-no-kata, where Tomiki was a main drive in the committee?" CreationDate="2017-08-01T13:56:12.143" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16040" PostId="7623" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking No, I do not know…" CreationDate="2017-08-01T14:10:40.677" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16041" PostId="7623" Score="0" Text="Given the publication dates of his two books, i.e. *Kodokan Goshinjutsu* 1958 for Judo and *Introduction to Goshinjutsu* 1974, as seen [here](http://www.aikidosangenkai.org/blog/aikido-shihan-kenji-tomiki-goshinjutsu/), I would expect the Aikido self-defence kata to have developed later. But I cannot read Japanese, otherwise I could simply try to find information in the (original, Japanese) books downloadable on the page linked above." CreationDate="2017-08-01T14:23:15.760" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16042" PostId="7719" Score="2" Text="The Shaolin temple has been teaching foreigners &amp; non-Buddhists since at least the 80s.  You may want to try googling some of them and contacting them by email for some 1st hand accounts." CreationDate="2017-08-01T16:36:55.830" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16043" PostId="7623" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking I had a look at my copy of Dr. Lee Ah Loi (Tomiki Aikido Randori and Koryu no kata) and there is no mention of the goshin-ho. The book was  first published in 1978 (part 1) and 1979 (part 2). What does this say, I am unsure: did she just not add it or was it still under development at the time?" CreationDate="2017-08-01T20:34:29.057" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16044" PostId="7623" Score="1" Text="btw found at least one possible principle [here](http://waseda-sport.jp/paper/1514/1514.pdf), i.e. atemi-waza as an extension of nage-waza. Some nice references in the bibliography as well!" CreationDate="2017-08-01T20:39:11.413" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16045" PostId="7721" Score="1" Text="Yes, although they are team events. I am unaware of any matches (takai as opposed to shihai) that pair male vs female. Informally, there are plenty of mixed bouts. I have very fond memories of being make to look like a kite by a certain female world champion." CreationDate="2017-08-01T20:53:42.310" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16046" PostId="7720" Score="0" Text="Very informative! One more doubt ...For being a disciple,is it necessary to accept Buddhism?" CreationDate="2017-08-01T23:39:24.767" UserId="8427" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16048" PostId="7716" Score="2" Text="Personally I'm not a fan of fictional situations, they serve no purpose in a Q&amp;A site. This question *could* have some merit if there was some historical documentation of this happening, but other than that this question cannot be practically answered." CreationDate="2017-08-02T04:50:34.927" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16049" PostId="7721" Score="0" Text="Link to the [1st international WSAF competition](http://en.shodokanaikido.com/2017/1st-international-wsaf-competition/) which has a list of events. This is help in August 2017." CreationDate="2017-08-02T07:10:28.570" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16050" PostId="7704" Score="0" Text="Thanks. I found that document available in the Kukkiwon website, http://www.kukkiwon.or.kr/kwinc/swf/Technical_Terminology_ENG.pdf page 20." CreationDate="2017-08-02T09:20:16.107" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16051" PostId="7705" Score="1" Text="Thanks for your thorough explanation, and for introducing the ITF point of view. As a side note, AFAIK the pushing and hitting kicks have different technique, not just different intention." CreationDate="2017-08-02T09:23:42.440" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16052" PostId="7720" Score="0" Text="@Michel I've updated my answer to include a quote from a disciple detailing the oath that disciples need to take. The short answer is no, you don't have to accept Buddhism at all. This is a secular discipleship." CreationDate="2017-08-02T15:08:49.673" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16054" PostId="7724" Score="1" Text="Great answer! I'd +1 you if I could. Maybe sometime soon. I'd never thought about alternating between them but it does make sense. Is it still the same technique if you transform it into an armbar instead?" CreationDate="2017-08-02T16:50:24.567" UserId="8472" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16055" PostId="7724" Score="0" Text="@user8472 Thanks. You can still mark it as the accepted answer! Are you talking about an arm bar from guard? Countless guard sweeps and subs start from single arm control (2 on 1) or an arm drag. So yes, the setup is similar to an arm bar. The differences are, you don't drop your leg to the ground, you don't get Z guard (because you're throwing the leg over their face), and you need to stay in TIGHT, rather than creating space with Z guard." CreationDate="2017-08-02T17:01:45.800" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16056" PostId="7724" Score="0" Text="@user8472 If you're talking about from mount, it's a perfect transition. You keep the arm that you grabbed for the sweep, and continue through the rest of the classic arm bar from mount technique. I should note that unless you're drilling, sparring, or a real badass, I'm not a fan of giving up that top position you just worked so hard for to attempt an arm bar. Work your mount subs, side control subs, or if it's MMA, get your smash on!" CreationDate="2017-08-02T17:03:31.500" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16057" PostId="7724" Score="1" Text="Got it. I understand the arm bar isn't the best thing around. Here's what I meant: I kick the leg back, but instead of going for the mount, I rotate myself under the opponent and place my leg over their throats (yes.) while controlling the arm, and I then either roll the opponent over (if I have momentum and a good grip) or flatten them down (if something hits the fan), the latter being rather dangerous as the opponent may rip their hand off and attack me from the back, but I know when to retreat." CreationDate="2017-08-02T17:23:42.267" UserId="8472" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16058" PostId="7724" Score="0" Text="@user8472 Yeah, that's possible. It's just not ideal, because you need your Z guard leg and body momentum to toss them over if they have halfway decent balance. You could slip into an arm bar like that if you're wayyyy more skilled than your opponent, but if not they would likely get top position on you. Like the old saying goes, position before submission. Get your mount, then attack the arm bar." CreationDate="2017-08-02T18:23:54.097" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16060" PostId="7704" Score="0" Text="That's the one. Useful document to keep handy." CreationDate="2017-08-02T19:15:04.517" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16061" PostId="7724" Score="1" Text="Most of this answer is good, but the guard position was in fact a common position in some forms of jujutsu and judo some time ago." CreationDate="2017-08-03T01:56:42.303" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16063" PostId="7705" Score="0" Text="@Wigwam: that's my point - they're the piercing and thrusting side kick mechanics, they are different - it's not the same technique with different intent.  Choi's books don't make this very clear, but senior ITF masters I've spoken to have confirmed this nomenclature corresponds to the direction of hip rotation as explained in the video.  I'm not sure what you mean by &quot;shown with the back foot to kick forward . identical / even hips&quot;.  I have a copy of the encyclopaedia handy - which pages make you believe the mechanics are identical?  The part of the foot used is overwhelmingly cosmetic." CreationDate="2017-08-03T13:48:33.330" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16064" PostId="7724" Score="0" Text="@mattm You're right, but... As far as I've been taught and read, while guard was a part of jujutsu and judo, it was an afterthought. Little time was spent learning and developing the position. Hence why I said &quot;most&quot; guard techniques can be attributed to Carlos Gracie. He was the first one to really embrace and refine the guard." CreationDate="2017-08-03T13:49:48.160" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16065" PostId="5404" Score="0" Text="… So, RPG chat was closed. Stupid thing. Nonetheless, thanks for the message. I did utterly miss all that whole thing. Shame to see you go but I support your decision. Still will be reading your blog. All the best." CreationDate="2017-08-03T14:25:32.863" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16067" PostId="7724" Score="1" Text="I suggest investigating Kosen Judo, which predates Carlos Gracie and had a total emphasis on groundwork. Although most modern jujutsu and judo may train the guard as an afterthought, this neither historically nor exclusively the case. I see trying to attribute &quot;most&quot; guard techniques to Carlos Gracie as a form of ancestor worship that does not consider his teachers or contemporaries. Yes, the best guard work may currently be in BJJ, but there is plenty of evidence of substantial guard work in its predecessors and siblings of the martial arts tree." CreationDate="2017-08-03T15:03:57.533" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16074" PostId="7705" Score="0" Text="@TonyD, ok, I'll try my best without either references in front of me now. In Choi, he describes all 3 kicks starting with back stance, left foot forward, and kicking with front (left) leg. So, his book describes basic stance and basic kick: front-leg side kick. He then describes the 3 kicks according to pierce, thrust, push, but says nothing about hip alignment. The video, on the other hand, describes one kick similarly as Choi, except as a back-leg kick, and the other kick is a reverse / turning kick." CreationDate="2017-08-03T17:37:03.350" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16075" PostId="7705" Score="0" Text="Here, I can agree that hip alignment can be different, although some instructors go so far as to say even here, the hips are aligned the same once the full turn has been made. I don't argue this point, since the execution here seems more of a personal choice as to getting the kick in before the turn, as might be done in sparring; or fully for presentation, as might be done in hyung. Yes, Choi wasn't thorough in description here, but perhaps that is the point: that detail (hip alignment) might not make a difference, where intent might be more important." CreationDate="2017-08-03T17:37:16.267" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16076" PostId="7705" Score="0" Text="I was referencing Vol IV, pages 25, 36, and 38; and Vol II, page 76. (I apologize for the many edits deletes and re-comments, SE doesn't allow comment edits after 5 mins??)" CreationDate="2017-08-03T17:37:26.600" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16077" PostId="7720" Score="0" Text="Honouring/Honoring … My spell checker highlight the second, I bet yours does the first one. ☺ Apologies if I offended you by the change." CreationDate="2017-08-04T06:44:22.063" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16078" PostId="7720" Score="4" Text="@Sardathrion Haha! No. I just chuckled about it. It's actually the right way to spell it if you're not an American. :) Funny." CreationDate="2017-08-04T15:17:51.843" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16082" PostId="7732" Score="1" Text="These are questions for the coaches at the gym. Every gym is different. Don't overthink it, and have some fun." CreationDate="2017-08-07T13:40:22.233" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16083" PostId="7732" Score="3" Text="Within 10 minutes, they'll know you have experience in a prior art.  If you've learned anything it will show in your body." CreationDate="2017-08-07T14:05:03.533" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16084" PostId="7736" Score="1" Text="By extrapolate you mean that if I do not tell about my background they'll expect others that are not trained in a martial art to perform in the same range as me, as they consider me a normal individual with no previous training whatsoever?" CreationDate="2017-08-07T17:23:29.607" UserId="8386" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16085" PostId="7732" Score="0" Text="Thanks guys . It is just that I've never changed clubs plus it is a new martial art that I have no experience with that makes me a bit unsure." CreationDate="2017-08-07T18:10:04.257" UserId="8386" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16086" PostId="7259" Score="0" Text="@Amorphous_Blob: Do any of these answers satisfy your question? Personally, I think Steve's is the best." CreationDate="2017-08-07T18:43:15.947" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16090" PostId="7740" Score="0" Text="@mattm OP is talking about punches thrown to your opponent's chest (pectoral and solar plexus area). It IS distinct from the &quot;body shots&quot; I mentioned, as body shots are (more effectively) thrown to the lower-outside ribs, lower ribs, stomach, and obliques. Is that what you're asking for?" CreationDate="2017-08-07T21:21:50.240" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16091" PostId="7740" Score="0" Text="Yes, that's clear. Please edit that into your answer." CreationDate="2017-08-07T21:44:10.347" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16092" PostId="7740" Score="0" Text="I tend to agree to most of this. However, I've seen some pretty damaging chest shots. Buddy of mine's had a broken sternum from a fight. Went back to training when the cartilage got on. Haven't seen anyone scream as much as he did on the benches when that cartilage broke. Another buddy got a back kick in the chest (accident from yours truly who didn't control his kick well enough...), moving and bruising the rib. He was out, checking his heart and catching his breath. The rumble the wing chun punches create must be devastating... if the chance opens. That's the main issue: getting the chance!" CreationDate="2017-08-07T21:50:58.180" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16093" PostId="7738" Score="1" Text="+1 The solar plexus is a weak point, with just borders of the rib cage protecting vital organs, and no muscles to protect them (a in the abdomen)." CreationDate="2017-08-07T22:51:06.507" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16094" PostId="7742" Score="0" Text="Excellent answer.We are shown the application of kata and often practice with a partner different parts of it.There are also TK and judo clubs at the uni but I picked jiujitsu because I think(and was told by my assistant instructor as my instructor was unavailable)that TK will change too much my kicks and make me use less strikes (or make me unused with my hand techniques).I've read that judo is a descendant of JJ and I though that I'd better go with JJ to learn the &quot;roots&quot;(sorry if I said smth wrong) which'll help if I'd study judo in the future.What do you think about this,if you don't mind?" CreationDate="2017-08-08T09:12:44.483" UserId="8386" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16095" PostId="7740" Score="0" Text="@mattm You deleted your original comment (or I can't see it?), so I don't remember what your question was. My reply is already essentially in the answer, second paragraph. I'm happy to edit if you think there's some specific detail that should be added though." CreationDate="2017-08-08T13:52:08.453" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16096" PostId="7740" Score="0" Text="Without understanding how you are classifying chest punch to mean a punch to the pectoral or solar plexus area, it's difficult to understand your second paragraph. I don't know whether your understanding of chest punch matches with the OP, but my original understanding of this question was any strike to the torso area, as opposed to a head strike." CreationDate="2017-08-08T14:51:33.417" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16097" PostId="7742" Score="1" Text="@Fel31 Your right about Judo. It is from classical jujitsu. In fact, the founder considered his style to be another type of jujitsu. It didn't always have such an emphasis on throws, by the way. And yes, it will be easier for your mind to adjust to jujitsu than it would be to adjust to Taekwondo, I think, because of the fact that jujitsu is so completely different than karate. Taekwondo is Koreanized Shotokan karate, by the way. As a result, the similarities might confuse you. Only caveat with jujitsu is the punching and kicking, which I mentioned in my answer. That's tricky to navigate." CreationDate="2017-08-08T15:20:27.143" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16098" PostId="7740" Score="0" Text="@mattm OP specifically mentioned the chest/solar plexus, I was just quoting him. I can't see anyone defining the chest as the entire torso. I will update my answer with a bit more detail though." CreationDate="2017-08-08T15:28:32.010" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16099" PostId="7738" Score="0" Text="You can watch old bare knuckle and no rules fights, and see that broken hands aren't a big concern. Guys will continue to strike to the face/head, not caring that their hands break. I've done it myself (granted with MMA gloves). Broke my hand in the 2nd round, but it doesn't matter. Adrenaline keeps you fighting. That's how much of a massive damage difference striking to the face/head is, they're willing to break their own hands to damage the face/head, and hunt for the knock out blow." CreationDate="2017-08-08T15:37:50.537" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16100" PostId="7738" Score="2" Text="@coinbird: You'll also notice that, in bare knuckle competitions, they generally avoid doing as many headshots, and they frequently instead strike with other parts of the fist. I will agree with you that people will keep fighting with broken knuckles in real fights. Then again, people will also try to break a beer bottle as an improvised weapon for a fight, or try to hold keys in their knuckles, both frequently leading to hand injuries. People in a fight aren't always smart. :)" CreationDate="2017-08-08T15:53:09.773" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16101" PostId="7738" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan The evidence proves otherwise, see UFC 1-6 (and plenty of other promotions). Those were all bare knuckle, no rules fights, and you didn't see any more chest strikes than you would in modern MMA. There weren't guys using tons of palm strikes either. Note that these were tournaments, so after breaking their hands they had to fight MORE guys. Even then, dudes were swinging for the fences. I get what you're saying, breaking your own hands seems dumb, but the evidence proves otherwise. The best of the best fighters in the world consistently sacrifice broken hands to secure the win." CreationDate="2017-08-08T16:04:04.440" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16102" PostId="7738" Score="1" Text="@coinbird And yet Irish bareknuckle boxing (the one with the &quot;old-timey&quot; stance people often parody with one arm extended) focused on palm strikes when hitting the head because they recognized the damage. And *Lethwei* has fighters purposefully moving their head to intercept fists with the forehead to damage the other person's hand. I think a lot of it has to do with different rules in different sports. There's a good article at http://fightland.vice.com/blog/fighting-motives-how-rules-change-styles about why MMA styles differ." CreationDate="2017-08-08T16:27:54.137" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16103" PostId="7259" Score="0" Text="Yes, they're all interesting." CreationDate="2017-08-08T17:01:56.583" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16104" PostId="7738" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan That is a great article. That &quot;bull guard&quot; is still used today in boxing and MMA in a way. You do want your opponent to break their hands on your forehead. I've heard &quot;CHIN DOWN!&quot; screamed at more MMA and boxing fights than I can count. That being said, fighters training today are infinitely better than the old timey Irish boxers. A modern fighter might break their hands fighting an old timey guy, but he would also absolutely maul the guy and win decisively." CreationDate="2017-08-08T17:34:45.397" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16105" PostId="7738" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan To add to this, one of my favorite fighters of all time, Bas Rutten, is the master of palm strikes. He revolutionized striking despite the limited striking rules in Pankration. He stands by their usefulness in modern MMA, though when he trains fighters today he doesn't push palm strikes. I think it's a bit of nostalgia for him, but deep down he knows that if he did modern MMA he would have to use closed fist strikes to be competitive." CreationDate="2017-08-08T17:37:05.857" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16106" PostId="7742" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the answer to my second question. Indeed I picked jujitsu because is more different than TK and adds a whole lot more new techniques, plus the fact that judo is a descendant so in a way I hit two birds with one stone(I am aware that judo and jujitsu are a different but they do have a lot in common, as you've mentioned before). I wanted to ask you some more but I've figured I may as well as a new question in order to not &quot;overcharge&quot; the page with too many comments." CreationDate="2017-08-08T20:25:37.853" UserId="8386" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16107" PostId="7736" Score="1" Text="@fel31 Considering the example, I think it is rather that they could see your good kicking and striking, assuming a big deal of experience in general, which could lead to confusion when it's coming to ground work and grappling against experienced guys, where you probably are more or less a complete beginner. Misjudgements like that could actually even lead to injuries." CreationDate="2017-08-08T23:03:11.247" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16109" PostId="7748" Score="1" Text="You can edit your own posts by clicking on the edit button. I've made some changes, but feel free to modify them." CreationDate="2017-08-09T04:14:33.633" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16111" PostId="7738" Score="0" Text="About the palm strikes... Sparring pretty much everywhere is done while wearing gloves. You don't see much tiger / leopard / eagle / dragon claws or snake fists in fights either, for the same reason. Gloves severely limit the type of strikes you can do." CreationDate="2017-08-09T08:03:27.417" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16112" PostId="7734" Score="0" Text="Very good answer. Just that, by &quot;flavour&quot; you mean one of the modern day schools (found this on Wikipedia) that are found today?" CreationDate="2017-08-09T08:14:34.573" UserId="8386" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16114" PostId="7751" Score="2" Text="Only the written exam score part of this answer addresses the question. If you write an answer, please try to answer the question." CreationDate="2017-08-09T20:16:10.483" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16115" PostId="7748" Score="0" Text="Do you mean Tae Kwon Do? I fell that a one months not that significant, if you're not a high level competition athlete." CreationDate="2017-08-09T21:02:39.933" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16117" PostId="7754" Score="6" Text="A fine example of [a pearl](https://stackoverflow.blog/2011/06/13/optimizing-for-pearls-not-sand/)…" CreationDate="2017-08-10T07:10:46.260" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16118" PostId="7754" Score="0" Text="Very good answer. Pressure on some points in the body, like in yonkyo techniques in Aikido, may cause very much pain. But KO? I don't think so." CreationDate="2017-08-10T09:06:52.267" UserId="6654" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16119" PostId="7746" Score="0" Text="This mostly an opinion, and  &quot;I think the forms were retrofitted to make them work with the I Ching.&quot; is inaccurate. I added respectable references in my answer to confirming that." CreationDate="2017-08-10T12:54:17.563" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16120" PostId="7738" Score="0" Text="@Raf It's not just because of the gloves. Close fist strikes are just better. Go watch early UFC events when they didn't wear gloves and there were no rules. All closed fist strikes." CreationDate="2017-08-10T14:16:25.767" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16121" PostId="7752" Score="4" Text="Voted to close this question, we shouldn't encourage fake martial arts practices here. It's extremely dangerous for people to believe there are magical secrets to knocking someone out. As a BJJ &quot;expert&quot; I have also removed the BJJ tag, as this is absolutely in no way related to BJJ. I will leave the other tags decisions up to other experts." CreationDate="2017-08-10T14:19:18.897" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16122" PostId="7738" Score="0" Text="Actually, the original UFC rules required gloves if closed strikes were done to the head or face. (http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/haymaker/story/ufc-co-founder-releases-original-rules-list-from-first-ever-event-051414). Interestingly enough closed-fist head strikes were entirely banned in UFC 9 (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1614213-a-timeline-of-ufc-rules-from-no-holds-barred-to-highly-regulated)." CreationDate="2017-08-10T14:20:58.680" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16123" PostId="7754" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion Thank you very much for the compliment!" CreationDate="2017-08-10T15:01:03.787" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16124" PostId="7752" Score="4" Text="I consider it to be a valid topic. A large number of martial artists get hung up on pressure points / dim-mak / kyusho-jitsu. That's because there are many thousands of people out there performing demos and teaching it as part of their core curriculum. For example, George Dillman's group. To someone who has no knowledge of this, it can seem like the most advanced technology in terms of martial arts, and that can cause them to get sucked into it and waste their time without knowing it. It's good that we talk about it here." CreationDate="2017-08-10T15:10:01.490" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16125" PostId="7752" Score="1" Text="@SteveWeigand What is our criteria for martial arts worthy of being discussed here then? Do the techniques actually have to work in a fight? Do they just have to be fun? Is yoga a martial art? This stuff is on the level of Chi Strike, Death Touch, Steven Seagal nonsense. As a legitimate martial artist I'm disappointed that we're even entertaining it. Responding to these kinds of questions is not something this SO should do, as we get into the &quot;tea kettle orbiting the sun&quot; logical fallacy. It's not on us to prove fake stuff is fake. It's on them to prove their fake stuff is real." CreationDate="2017-08-10T15:28:33.977" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16126" PostId="7752" Score="3" Text="@coinbird I did give my reasons. This is a core topic in many martial arts. The fact that it doesn't work is no reason to say it's off limits from discussion. In fact, it's precisely because of that reason why it should be discussed. There are plenty of techniques and training methods that don't really work in martial arts. Entire brands of martial arts don't work in real life. That doesn't mean they're off-limits to discussion." CreationDate="2017-08-10T15:32:57.360" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16127" PostId="7752" Score="1" Text="@SteveWeigand I guess I misunderstand the point of this SO then. Can we talk about WWE moves? Or throwing wizard spells? I made a Meta post about this since these comments are becoming bloated." CreationDate="2017-08-10T15:43:50.427" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16128" PostId="7737" Score="1" Text="I think the problem here is that you think of chest/solar plexus interchangeably.  The solar plexus, specifically, while on the chest, refers to a bundle of nerve tissue and ganglia, so punching someone in the ribs, while painful, will not create the reaction that punching the solar plexus does.  It would be like treating &quot;elbow&quot; and &quot;funny bone&quot; interchangeably.  Very different reactions to contact in those areas. Your entire body kinds of shuts down when the solar plexus is properly struck, so I'm not sure the claim of &quot;more damage&quot; is true for any head-shot." CreationDate="2017-08-10T16:02:10.067" UserId="7553" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16129" PostId="7737" Score="0" Text="https://www.quora.com/What-happens-to-a-person-that-gets-punched-in-the-solar-plexus" CreationDate="2017-08-10T16:04:58.637" UserId="7553" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16130" PostId="2470" Score="0" Text="Depends on the school and larger governing organization.  There is no unified standard throughout TKD." CreationDate="2017-08-10T16:06:01.033" UserId="7553" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16131" PostId="7754" Score="2" Text="I like the addition of &quot;and go to jail&quot; after &quot;you don't want to kill them&quot;..... just in case, you know, the friends are jerks.  :D  Excellent answer.  I was struggling with how to define &quot;pressure points&quot; in a knockout context when I read the question. Looks like you defined it as something where it would cause a shut-down and loss of consciousness/control without the resulting brain trauma that a concussive knockout would, which is another reason why I like this answer." CreationDate="2017-08-10T16:21:49.663" UserId="7553" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16132" PostId="7754" Score="1" Text="I agree, even speaking as a student in a style where these points are a speciality if that's all you know it's just a party trick.  There is a lot more to fighting than learning a few points." CreationDate="2017-08-10T16:44:41.390" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16133" PostId="7752" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand These do work.  Indeed you describe them very well.  You just need to be skilled to hit them on a moving opponent and several of the better ones are banned in a lot of competitions. &#xA; What's the problem here?" CreationDate="2017-08-10T16:48:37.943" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16134" PostId="7752" Score="3" Text="@SteveWeigand For what it's worth, I think your answer was so well done that this question is worth keeping open." CreationDate="2017-08-10T17:11:57.990" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16135" PostId="7754" Score="3" Text="@Sardathrion Agreed. Very well done. Turned a question I was arguing as worthless into a legitimate QA." CreationDate="2017-08-10T17:13:15.267" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16136" PostId="7737" Score="0" Text="I had actually been thinking sternum, as that's where various Wing Chun actors on YouTube videos (I know... I know) seem to be punching. Sorry for the wording on the original question." CreationDate="2017-08-10T19:31:12.637" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16137" PostId="7737" Score="0" Text="Solar plexus is that soft spot right below the sternum, so maybe they are targeting it.  I know that it's considered a target point in Hwa Rang Do, especially for a &quot;knuckle punch.&quot;" CreationDate="2017-08-10T19:35:49.907" UserId="7553" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16139" PostId="7758" Score="1" Text="Please take a look at &#xA; [Looking for a martial art to do, self defense without causing pain?](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/6595/looking-for-a-martial-art-to-do-self-defense-without-causing-pain) - your question seems like a likely duplicate." CreationDate="2017-08-11T05:51:07.187" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16140" PostId="7758" Score="0" Text="Oh. Thank you @Bankuei . Sorry for that! Will take a look now." CreationDate="2017-08-11T05:52:24.543" UserId="8506" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16141" PostId="7758" Score="0" Text="No worries!  If you decide you have further questions, either revise your question here or create a new one." CreationDate="2017-08-11T05:53:43.633" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16142" PostId="7758" Score="0" Text="Sorry @Bankuei ...Not a duplication at all. They are talking about avoiding to cause pain. This is not what I'm asking here. I want to now means that may or not cause pain without sending the opponent to the hospital." CreationDate="2017-08-11T05:53:46.347" UserId="8506" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16143" PostId="7760" Score="0" Text="Thank you so much @Bankuei ! I'm striving to find a way of no infliction, but like you've explained, it's impossible to be sure." CreationDate="2017-08-11T06:17:31.307" UserId="8506" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16144" PostId="7758" Score="0" Text="You should take [the tour](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour) to see how we work. I edited your question to make it not asking for a list of things (off topic &amp; bad) and collapsed some of the comments into the question. Also, it is bad to accept an answer too early (within 24 hours?) since that might discourage others to write their (potentially better) answer." CreationDate="2017-08-11T07:01:59.153" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16145" PostId="7758" Score="0" Text="Thank you @Sardathrion. I will do the tour. Sorry for the bad practice." CreationDate="2017-08-11T11:23:38.883" UserId="8506" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16146" PostId="7758" Score="0" Text="No worries. We all started out and made those same mistakes… I know I did!☺" CreationDate="2017-08-11T11:35:24.213" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16147" PostId="7756" Score="0" Text="+1 My dojang is closing during July and August, so I feel the same problem." CreationDate="2017-08-11T12:29:15.950" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16149" PostId="7758" Score="0" Text="I'm sure your coaches will have methods of sparring for you to minimize damage. We wear 16oz gloves for sparring, and go hard to the body, light to the head." CreationDate="2017-08-11T13:58:35.850" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16150" PostId="7758" Score="1" Text="I've always found that the only effective way to dominate an opponent without injury is to possess a massively higher level of skill. Otherwise your attacks will by necessity either require damage or be ineffective." CreationDate="2017-08-11T15:13:19.353" UserId="6083" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16151" PostId="7758" Score="0" Text="Are you looking to develop an approach to self-defense which does not cause injury to your opponent, or are you wondering how confident you can be that the &quot;KO head spots&quot; don't cause injuries?  I would have to approach the two questions differently.  One is a discussion of philosophies and schools.  The other starts from assuming KOs are the correct solution for incapacitation and asks how bad the side effects are." CreationDate="2017-08-12T01:37:13.080" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16152" PostId="7762" Score="1" Text="I like these quotes especially as they apply to martial arts in general, not just in judo.Nonetheless, good  philosohy." CreationDate="2017-08-12T09:02:48.633" UserId="8386" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16153" PostId="7758" Score="0" Text="Hey @CortAmmon! I know that KO hits can cause injuries. The question is simple: With my quoted knowledge, is there a way to cause 1 to 5 minutes incapacitation without side effects? Best regards," CreationDate="2017-08-12T14:51:32.167" UserId="8506" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16154" PostId="7763" Score="3" Text="To be fair, a lot of items can be *used* in an art, but that doesn't mean they're a *part* of the art. The arts should teach you how to use things to hand, and if that happens to be a boomerang or a rolled up magazine then so be it." CreationDate="2017-08-13T06:42:15.333" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16155" PostId="7762" Score="0" Text="I am desperately trying to find the original source, because it is essentially the thing I have been trying to tell everyone in our club - most can only see judo as a sport, dismissing any of it's philosophical and/or recreational aspects." CreationDate="2017-08-13T09:28:43.887" UserId="6488" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16156" PostId="7763" Score="1" Text="The other potential issue is whether you're wanting a returning boomerang, or a non-returning one (typically referred to as a throwing stick, although that encompasses a lot of less aerodynamic versions). A proper boomerang is curved or angled, allowing for that characteristic circling motion that allows a longer flight. Returning boomerangs, by their nature, almost have to have lightweight materials that make them less useful as melee weapons." CreationDate="2017-08-14T14:43:24.767" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16157" PostId="7760" Score="0" Text="@Methark: To some degree, it's the same problem as the police face with their &quot;non-lethal&quot; weapons being closer to &quot;much-less-lethal&quot;. Tear gas can disable. It can also asphyxiate (or ignite). Stun guns and tasers can cause hearts to stop. Bean bag rounds and rubber bullets break bones and crush tracheas. If you'll pardon the slight play on words, there is no magic bullet." CreationDate="2017-08-14T18:39:55.790" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16158" PostId="7762" Score="0" Text="If you are looking for an answer that discusses philosophical and recreational benefits outside competitive sport, that could be a new question. I don't think this quotation captures the idea as indicated in your comment." CreationDate="2017-08-14T19:04:33.717" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16159" PostId="7765" Score="2" Text="This textual description is very confusing. What direction are you facing relative to your opponent (this defines rolling left/right)? Facing opponent, back to opponent, 90 degrees with opponent on your left/right? Where is your left hand? Where is your right hand? How are you grasping the leg? What does it mean that you &quot;grasped into&quot;?" CreationDate="2017-08-14T19:44:41.103" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16160" PostId="7765" Score="0" Text="Facing, yes. I'll add those details. I had them at one draft but somehow they slipped out :)" CreationDate="2017-08-14T20:38:31.687" UserId="8472" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16161" PostId="7765" Score="0" Text="As for grasping: wrapping something with fingers? Best grip you can get from the ankle and so on." CreationDate="2017-08-14T20:43:39.497" UserId="8472" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16162" PostId="7765" Score="0" Text="What direction does the opponent fall? Forward or backward or to their left or right?" CreationDate="2017-08-14T21:37:40.837" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16163" PostId="7765" Score="0" Text="The description kind of reminds me of kata guruma...&#xA;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD09HBiPgEU" CreationDate="2017-08-14T23:55:31.713" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16164" PostId="7742" Score="2" Text="@Fel31 - Traditional Karate was originally meant to complement Tegumi, a form of folk wrestling. This is why Karate flows so well with many grappling techniques: ancient practitioners of karate were already proficient in grappling before starting karate, so the art evolved in a specific direction. Pretty much every karate kata has at least 2-3 bunkai involving a throw or some form of joint lock (tuidi). This is why karate and jujutsu are so compatible (well, that and the fact that the evolved in parallel from the same Chinese &amp; Ryukyu roots)." CreationDate="2017-08-15T00:36:36.510" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16165" PostId="7742" Score="1" Text="Yes, and Dungarth pointed out that grappling knowledge must come first before you can analyze those kata. When you have jujitsu training, you begin to be able to just see it in the kata. It's obvious sometimes. Whereas, modern day karate tends to be done completely in isolation of jujitsu. So karate people don't know grappling, and their interpretations of the kata will be seriously ridiculous." CreationDate="2017-08-15T01:15:32.913" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16166" PostId="6062" Score="0" Text="Wikipedia has a mention on [Tatami layout](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatami#Layout), and there's even a belief that creating cross junctions bring bad fortune.. I think this serves as a reminder to how tatamis are supposed to be laid out. :)" CreationDate="2017-08-15T06:17:33.247" UserId="6488" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16169" PostId="7766" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site. This is a nice question indeed. Have you seen the question [Mouthguard for sparring with extra special gag reflex](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/5004/82)? Does it answer your question or is yours different? If the latter, could you detail why?" CreationDate="2017-08-15T08:24:02.627" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16170" PostId="7765" Score="0" Text="To the right. So not kata guruma. It's more of a sacrifice throw than anything else." CreationDate="2017-08-15T14:55:42.203" UserId="8472" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16171" PostId="7765" Score="0" Text="And to be clear; I never lifted the opponent on my shoulders like in kata guruma. Picture putting someone on one leg, and take that leg of the ground by pulling it to the left side (assuming left hand on collar and right on leg). The collar grip was used for guiding the opponent on the way down, and keeping control afterwards." CreationDate="2017-08-15T15:00:01.423" UserId="8472" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16172" PostId="7760" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan - Yes. I've got to this enclosure here. Just for the record, there is a laser being developed right now with no side-effects - the problem is the weight and size of the cannon. :)" CreationDate="2017-08-15T19:43:16.263" UserId="8506" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16173" PostId="7742" Score="0" Text="Kwan Sheng Fu (attributed source of the kusanku kata, which is known as Kanku Dai in shotokan) was actually next known as a grappler. A jujitsu practitioner can easily see the  grappling applications in the older forms of the kata." CreationDate="2017-08-16T02:41:27.087" UserId="6599" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16174" PostId="7770" Score="0" Text="It's not firemans carry or uki waza. My leg grib was from the ankle and the throw itself had nothing to do with my shoulders. Yoko otoshi kinda comes close, but instead of tripping the leg with my leg, I used my hand to lift the leg off the ground." CreationDate="2017-08-17T05:13:21.870" UserId="8472" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16175" PostId="7770" Score="0" Text="What comes to Kodokan and Judo techniques in general; Judo died for me when they banned all leg grabs, so minor details of a throw classification don't really interest me. I just want to get better as a grappler in general." CreationDate="2017-08-17T05:16:37.747" UserId="8472" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16176" PostId="7766" Score="2" Text="Possible duplicate of [Mouthguard for sparring with extra special gag reflex](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/5004/mouthguard-for-sparring-with-extra-special-gag-reflex)" CreationDate="2017-08-17T08:09:38.127" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16177" PostId="7770" Score="0" Text="Yoko otoshi does not require blocking the leg. The major point is to off-balance the opponent and throw to the side while falling. Blocking the leg is optional; I often find that falling too close to the opponent is ineffective while falling further away is harder to resist." CreationDate="2017-08-17T13:10:46.780" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16178" PostId="7771" Score="0" Text="Interesting. The seoinage part (the video) was kinda how it happened, but I did go for the other leg. The follow up from the kouchi gari a bit later has similar &quot;punch&quot; to it. I guess the direction doesn't really matter?" CreationDate="2017-08-17T15:58:27.133" UserId="8472" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16179" PostId="7771" Score="0" Text="@user8472 As far as I know, direction does not matter for classification. I would think it's easiest to go to uke's rear, side of the leg being reaped, or the corner in between." CreationDate="2017-08-17T17:21:02.710" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16182" PostId="7772" Score="0" Text="This is incorrect. The requirements above regarding panels and requirements (&quot;They must be&quot; and &quot;There must be&quot;) are proposed changes for *if* the new Dan/Poom Examiner requirements go through. They are also incorrect if you're testing your own student. I specifically asked two Poom/Dan Examiner Course instructors from Kukkiwon about this on the Examiner Course in Austria 2015. If you're testing your own student. Currently it's Kukkiwon 4th Dan upwards can test, must be a KMS member (free to join). Going forward it's Kukkiwon examiner certificate required, but still can test own students." CreationDate="2017-08-18T06:45:17.460" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16184" PostId="7774" Score="0" Text="Is there anyone who would take seriously a martial art invented by an academic student with no martial arts training or experience? This is very very bad advice; if you follow it, the best you can hope for is to be mocked as foolish." CreationDate="2017-08-21T10:30:33.380" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16185" PostId="7777" Score="1" Text="The cross grab makes sense. I can picture countering an opponent grabbing my shirt with the left hand. His right hand could also be grabbing or throwing a punch to the chest. For a Taegeuk form including a throw would come unexpected (none of the forms includes them), so the backfist strike seems like a sensible choice." CreationDate="2017-08-21T21:55:50.593" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16186" PostId="7776" Score="0" Text="It was not clear in the picture so I added the link for the original video: the grandmaster is showing with is hand the right height of the palm block, a not simulating an attack. But your answer is similar to the second one: the left hand is countering a grab." CreationDate="2017-08-21T22:02:23.417" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16187" PostId="7777" Score="0" Text="You might be surprised at the different kinds of grappling techniques are in our forms.  In addition to kicks and punches (and very little &quot;blocking&quot;), there is falls, throws, joint manipulation, pressure points, sweeps, locks, pins, holds, chokes... Most of our blocks are all about the grappling aspect we never talk about." CreationDate="2017-08-21T22:21:21.087" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16188" PostId="7766" Score="1" Text="I think this question is different because OP is asking about the inner walls of the guard digging into the roof of her mouth, not the ends making her gag. That said, some of the advice and links in the other question may be helpful for this question." CreationDate="2017-08-22T21:17:12.927" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16189" PostId="7777" Score="1" Text="Amazing! Researching the topic found a grappling application for a later move in that same poomsae here: http://jungdokwan-taekwondo.blogspot.pt/2017/02/taegeuk-chil-jang-revisited-follow-up.html" CreationDate="2017-08-22T23:17:35.677" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16190" PostId="7777" Score="0" Text="Here's another: you have your armpit fist grabbing the opponent's wrist in a wrist lock (his wrist is upward, palm down, and fingers pointing downward to his own feet).  Japanese call this kotegaishi, koreans call it boo chae.  The variation (admittedly an advanced variation) your elbow applies pressure to his bow wrist; while in excruciating pain, smash his face with the backfist.  How did you acquire the wrist lock?  It could be that with either hand he attempted to grab you by the neck or lapel; or he threatened you with a knife close to your face; or you caught him off-balance." CreationDate="2017-08-23T01:30:15.760" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16191" PostId="7777" Score="0" Text="That is a good extension to the answer - please go ahead.." CreationDate="2017-08-23T06:38:09.077" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16192" PostId="7007" Score="0" Text="So, ironically, if you want to learn to fight with karate - don't train karate." CreationDate="2017-08-23T09:55:50.890" UserId="8536" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16195" PostId="7778" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the reply :) I'll definitely look into it (stress relief would be **really** useful right now)" CreationDate="2017-08-23T23:25:35.670" UserId="8392" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16197" PostId="6340" Score="0" Text="I used to go to a class where, periodically, someone would just get in your face with swearing, pushing, abuse and all that - thus giving you a chance to respond to it without having *expected* it. If you wanna be able to handle being &quot;ambushed&quot; by an aggressive other party - train for that." CreationDate="2017-08-24T11:36:45.667" UserId="8536" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16198" PostId="7777" Score="0" Text="Done.  And I formatted it to make it more readable." CreationDate="2017-08-24T12:46:52.180" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16206" PostId="1452" Score="0" Text="Traditional staffs from kungfu were bamboo. I'm guessing it's no different in Japan than in China. It seems quite alot more difficult to make bamboo into any other shape than round" CreationDate="2017-08-28T20:58:04.580" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16207" PostId="7787" Score="1" Text="Welcome to the site. You should take [the tour](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour) to see how we work. your answer would be much improved if you provided some references for your claims." CreationDate="2017-08-29T08:23:47.817" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16208" PostId="7786" Score="1" Text="Welcome to the site. You should take the [tour](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour) to see how we work. This answer would be much improved with some references/evidence to justify your claims." CreationDate="2017-08-29T13:57:09.763" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16209" PostId="7788" Score="2" Text="Please only write answers that actually answer the question." CreationDate="2017-08-30T21:53:00.767" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16210" PostId="7705" Score="0" Text="@Wigwam: *&quot;The video, on the other hand, describes one kick similarly as Choi, except as a back-leg kick, and the other kick is a reverse / turning kick&quot;* - whether it's delivered with the front or back leg doesn't change the body mechanics of the hip rotation during the kicking-leg extension part of the kicks - the video goes on to demonstrate a front-leg piercing kick, and while the thrusting kick is initially introduced with a &quot;reverse / turning&quot; exercise to illustrate and help practice the hip rotation, the video progresses to back leg and I think front leg versions.  Anyway, no worries :)" CreationDate="2017-08-31T03:10:05.873" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16211" PostId="7788" Score="2" Text="Welcome to the site. Sadly, this is not an answer to the question and thus is attracting down votes. I suggest you take the [tour](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour) to see how we work." CreationDate="2017-08-31T07:23:54.783" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16212" PostId="7740" Score="1" Text="*&quot;I've never seen someone hurt by one in all my years of MMA&quot;* - wearing gloves/mitts?  I've seen a bare knuckle chest punch cause a highly trained and conditioned competitor to glaze over and lose it completely for several seconds (TKO) during the All-Japan kyokushin karate tournament in Osaka a few years ago; Ochiai Kosei was the attacker - still, I've watched a lot more people get punched repeatedly by him with less dramatic results.  It would be silly to expect it to be a fight-finishing move against a trained opponent." CreationDate="2017-09-02T05:32:04.317" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16213" PostId="7791" Score="0" Text="I tried with sai, escrima, and kamas.  The &quot;doing one thing&quot; didn't really help as I tend to only strike/parry with 1 at a time instead of flowing.  I have heard people instruct that it's just like an extension of the body, but it doesn't click like that for me.  Shield and weapon feels different and I don't seem to struggle the same in concept there.  Usually two handed weapons or single weapon works for me.  Your answer would indicate the &quot;practice/practice/practice&quot; and then it will click eventually and feel like a single thing instead of two separate things." CreationDate="2017-09-04T17:11:16.610" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16215" PostId="7794" Score="0" Text="While I am sure that [fictional weapons should be on topic](https://martialarts.meta.stackexchange.com/q/517/82), I am not sure that my question does not fall foul of being a &quot;list&quot;. *How can I improve it?*" CreationDate="2017-09-05T10:03:38.420" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16216" PostId="7794" Score="1" Text="How rapid a transformation? And how much of one? There exist bo-staffs which can be unscrewed to create two single-sticks (which does weaken the middle). There are guns which can swap barrels and stocks to go from a pistol form to rifle to shotgun. And there are staffs with retractable blades or points to turn a staff into a spear or naginata." CreationDate="2017-09-05T12:42:14.113" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16218" PostId="7740" Score="0" Text="@TonyD Gloves or not. I haven't seen it. I believe you though. I'm a big fan of unorthodox strikes. If it works it works. Pat Barry used to hammer fist dudes in the thighs from top half guard." CreationDate="2017-09-05T14:34:49.987" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16219" PostId="7791" Score="1" Text="Are you training in a style that has two weapon forms/movements?  If not you are reinventing the wheel.  It's not just practice - it's about correct practice.  Once you gain basic fluency, the movements transfer quickly and easily to many other short weapons held in both hands as well as empty hand work." CreationDate="2017-09-05T16:40:37.560" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16220" PostId="7791" Score="1" Text="@mutt: As Bankuei said, the actual movements are already largely figured out, sequences that get you from one stance to another without tangling yourself up. I personally recommend the Escrima drills to start with because they're fairly versatile whether you're working with clubs, swords, or knives." CreationDate="2017-09-05T17:15:38.460" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16221" PostId="7803" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the answer, do you have any references for the masters usage you are talking about or any comments on speed of 2 vs. 1?" CreationDate="2017-09-05T19:34:07.333" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16222" PostId="7793" Score="0" Text="For plastic you might want to look at this or similar products https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/hdpe-impact-board-1-thick-plastic_60383977286.html?spm=a2700.7724857.5.13.2bd13975tMsewg&amp;s=p" CreationDate="2017-09-05T19:44:09.000" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16225" PostId="7653" Score="0" Text="By anthropological nature of the origin and practice of both civilizations there would be some influence from Vikings Glima in the Greco-Roman version.  I doubt much would be the other way around except on an isolated basis as Vikings tended to be independent tribes versus a centralized empire like the Roman and Greek ones.  As far as the actual moves themselves and which came first and introduced which I have no clue and thus can't answer this one, but the anthropological influence is there and as you mention the Viking spiritual side and thirst to prove themselves I'm sure they competed." CreationDate="2017-09-05T21:42:20.517" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16227" PostId="7803" Score="0" Text="I was captain of my school fencing team and trained with the English national team in both foil and saber 55 years ago,although I am Thai(Siamese),so both my western and eastern masters are all dead." CreationDate="2017-09-06T16:53:35.283" UserId="8552" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16230" PostId="7808" Score="3" Text="It would help to provide more information. Does &quot;enjoy leveling up&quot; mean this system needs to have belts? What about taiji makes you not into it? What makes martial arts fun for you?" CreationDate="2017-09-07T14:11:57.043" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16231" PostId="7803" Score="0" Text="That makes sense, but the issue is that this site is trying for objective evidence and not just opinions.  Opinions are often based on evidence, but the goal would be to articulate the evidence that would lead to the opinion stated.  Would you be able to edit the post and list more of the basis for which your opinion is formed instead of just your opinion?" CreationDate="2017-09-07T14:20:17.127" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16232" PostId="7805" Score="0" Text="While I understand there could be a lot of &quot;subtle&quot; aspects tied to techniques I think the mouthpiece, based on this answer, would account for the largest majority in defining the outcome. Knowing this, I'll keep it in mind and see about having a discussion with my Dentist." CreationDate="2017-09-07T18:40:27.217" UserId="3165" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16233" PostId="7805" Score="0" Text="I think the biggest benefit from an answer like this would be education, for any interested parents. @mutt, Thanks a ton for following up with this! This was a lot of really good information." CreationDate="2017-09-07T18:41:09.757" UserId="3165" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16234" PostId="7805" Score="0" Text="yep, sure thing." CreationDate="2017-09-07T20:04:28.067" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16236" PostId="7812" Score="0" Text="There is no mention of knee problems in the question." CreationDate="2017-09-08T03:28:22.630" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16237" PostId="7772" Score="0" Text="I stand by my answer.  These rules have been in place for years.  It doesn't mean the rules aren't overlooked - they certainly are from time to time.  Especially for some well-respected members in the community.  In fact, it seems rampant - and getting worse.  But I can't ethically provide an answer based on what everyone else is doing, when the official documents, which have been around for years, say otherwise." CreationDate="2017-09-08T06:30:57.960" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16242" PostId="7808" Score="1" Text="Please read [A good martial art recommendation question guidelines](https://martialarts.meta.stackexchange.com/q/506/82) and edit your question accordingly. Anyone thinking of answering it should read [Martial art recommendation answer guidelines](https://martialarts.meta.stackexchange.com/q/513/82)." CreationDate="2017-09-08T08:21:29.310" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16243" PostId="7814" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site. I edited your question a little to remove verbiage and focus the question a little." CreationDate="2017-09-08T13:12:52.340" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16244" PostId="7814" Score="1" Text="Your MT class will be the same deal. You would look like a moron if you tried to play golf with pros too. This stuff takes thousands of hours to get good at. Years." CreationDate="2017-09-08T14:52:29.363" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16245" PostId="7812" Score="0" Text="@mattm Oh yeah, my brain just connected the dots there. Haha. Maybe it's some other injury besides the knee. On the plus side, what I recommended, classical jujitsu, usually has almost no emphasis on kicks. They have them, but it's not a big part of their curriculum." CreationDate="2017-09-08T15:02:55.220" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16246" PostId="7815" Score="1" Text="My son's Sifu used to have a sign posted above the gym entrance that said something like &quot;If you fail, try 10 more times. If you still fail, try 100. If you still fail, try 1,000. If you still fail, try 10,000&quot; etc. It always reminded me of [this poster](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0535/6917/products/incompetencedemotivator.jpeg?v=1403276021)." CreationDate="2017-09-08T15:31:54.573" UserId="8575" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16247" PostId="7814" Score="0" Text="Why do you want martial arts to be your main hobby?  I ask because martial arts take work and the best way to fuel that work is with a desire.  If we understand your desire better, that may reveal the best way to help you move forward." CreationDate="2017-09-08T18:07:54.853" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16248" PostId="7814" Score="3" Text="&quot;...the advanced student was so frustrated at how bad I was that he just went off and did his own thing.&quot; That &quot;advanced student&quot; needs some manners lessons." CreationDate="2017-09-09T02:55:30.843" UserId="8577" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16249" PostId="7815" Score="2" Text="I think I'll add a point to this post, as it is the highest voted. From more than a decade teaching hundreds of children, the experience is that there are different learning types: Some can mimic, others have to understand, still others have to physically be moved correctly (mere body learners). The op seems to be of the last type. Some forms of training don't work for them, even given a million tries. The teacher has to adapt accordingly, if possible. If impossible, it's the wrong style/school. But most importantly: They *can* learn fast, given instruction they need." CreationDate="2017-09-09T11:26:49.350" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16250" PostId="7815" Score="0" Text="I should add that the mere body learners are quite rare and it is independent from cognitive or general physical abilities. It is just how things are: They have to physically feel how it's done correctly. I should say: For more than mediocre technique. As the categories as laid out above are not disjunctive, of course." CreationDate="2017-09-09T11:33:14.153" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16251" PostId="7791" Score="0" Text="I've just added a link to a video one of the basic drills of kali/escrima - you may want to watch that to get an idea of what we're talking about.  You learn patterns like this early on, then you become able to switch between the patterns quickly and easily, and finally you become comfortable enough to where you are forced to break pattern completely, it's also natural because you've ingrained what positions are useful with two weapons." CreationDate="2017-09-10T02:15:22.353" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16252" PostId="7768" Score="0" Text="As soon as you trim it, however, you void any possible dental guarantee that the manufacturer may have on the product, because you have altered it." CreationDate="2017-09-11T15:33:37.980" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16253" PostId="7768" Score="0" Text="True, although I have never found those that useful as even with issues they only pay for minor stuff and usually find a way to get out of paying altogether.  That's just me though as I'm sure there are some people who are more successful.  I find making it fit and protecting to be far more benefit than a dental warranty on a factory product...especially if the product doesn't fit anyway." CreationDate="2017-09-11T16:56:36.953" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16259" PostId="7826" Score="0" Text="Do you kick with the Flat of the foot or the ball?" CreationDate="2017-09-13T13:28:23.047" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16260" PostId="7826" Score="0" Text="@HuwEvans with the flat/top of the foot for that one." CreationDate="2017-09-13T13:54:50.543" UserId="8276" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16261" PostId="7826" Score="0" Text="Not much you can do about it then. That is why other styles use the ball." CreationDate="2017-09-13T13:57:15.027" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16262" PostId="7789" Score="0" Text="Did you get a chance to check out any of the material I suggested? ...or even read my write up?" CreationDate="2017-09-13T14:03:26.103" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16264" PostId="7827" Score="0" Text="You can kick with the instep to the groin ok.  Also roundhouse kicks with the ball are ok.  But the question is asking about TKD which IS for point fighting." CreationDate="2017-09-13T14:18:26.697" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16265" PostId="7789" Score="0" Text="@coinbird I read your writeup, but haven't gotten a copy of either book yet. Thanks." CreationDate="2017-09-13T14:29:33.363" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16266" PostId="7827" Score="0" Text="@HuwEvans I didn't see any mention of TKD in the subject or question, but it was in the tag! My mistake. Still good info to have though. You're describing a kick where you turn your hip, and swing your leg to the side like a baseball bat, right? If so, by ball you mean the top of your foot, the big knuckle? I hope not, because foot bones and ligaments just aren't that strong. Catch a hip bone, elbow, knee, or shin with that kick and you're walking on crutches. Also your shin is essentially a baseball bat. Use it!" CreationDate="2017-09-13T14:57:15.710" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16267" PostId="7789" Score="0" Text="@mattm Cool. If you decide not to do the book thing I really think Stephen Kesting youtube videos are your next best option." CreationDate="2017-09-13T15:02:27.037" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16268" PostId="7827" Score="0" Text="The ball of your foot is the base on the toes on the bottom side of the foot.  Shin kicking is not part of TKD roundhouse kick, but more like mui tai or kung fu.  Proper foot kicks are still effective in real combat situations and someone who has not deadened the shin nerve endings will be disabled just as easily by making contact with a shin kick.  Also you risk breaking your leg should you hit something that is harder than the durability of your bone density and even if not you wear down your tibia.  If your goal is to cause the most damage and retire with body damage, then it's right" CreationDate="2017-09-13T16:31:24.360" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16269" PostId="7810" Score="0" Text="I'm curious as I would think the padding would be beaten to a pulp and cause it to be a plastic piping inside of a softer canvas like material that would then rip with repeated strikes.  Have you successfully implemented this?" CreationDate="2017-09-13T16:37:15.270" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16270" PostId="7827" Score="0" Text="@mutt That's just not true. You won't find any MMA or kickboxing coach teaching kicking with the foot over shin(aside from head kicks). Your foot is an intricate collaboration of small bones. Your shin is a thick, hard baseball bat. One is OBVIOUSLY better for slamming into your opponent. I don't know what you're basing your claims on, but I've kicked people in fights with my instep and foot (on accident, of course), and took far more damage than they did. I've also kicked opponents with my shin, watched them crumple, and felt no damage to myself." CreationDate="2017-09-13T16:45:04.020" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16271" PostId="7827" Score="0" Text="@mutt One of the main reasons why the Anderson Silva leg break is so famous is because of how absurdly rare it is. Elite strikers like that just don't break their shins. It has happened once in thousands and thousands of UFC fights, and also one in Pride if I recall correctly. Trust your shin, it's not going to break!" CreationDate="2017-09-13T16:46:30.427" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16272" PostId="7827" Score="0" Text="@mutt But like I said, if this is for some kind of points fighting, fine. You're not worried about dealing damage, so kick with whatever works." CreationDate="2017-09-13T16:48:03.897" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16273" PostId="7827" Score="0" Text="@coinbird How long do MMA fighters have career?  Or any full contact fighter?  Yes it hurts oponents more to hit with a solid bone vs. a flexible joint, but it also damages the body more including hairline fractures and decreased bone function.  The fact you deadened your nerves doesn't mean no damage is done, it means you can't feel it.  Wait until you are 50 or 60 and check you quality of life out much less your ability to kick like that anymore..." CreationDate="2017-09-13T17:07:16.580" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16274" PostId="7827" Score="0" Text="@coinbird The point is just cause something is &quot;more damaging&quot; doesn't mean it's a better way to do it.  Technically the skull hurts really bad to hit people with as it's a solid bone object, but the risk of damage makes it &quot;impractical&quot; to use.  Again, what is the goal?  If it's to beat someone senseless then a real bat makes alot more sense than the body does.  If you want to abuse the body through full contact fighting, that is your choice, but it doesn't fit most people's lifestyle or ability to handle day to day situations and encounters." CreationDate="2017-09-13T17:11:31.703" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16275" PostId="7810" Score="0" Text="Unfortunately, I have not implemented it. I agree that the canvas would take the majority of the force from any strikes and would eventually rip. The idea came from 1) protecting the pad holder such that they do not feel the pressure of the blows (since sticks have a very small striking surface area) and 2) reducing the wear on the padding that often occurs due to repeated small SA strikes in the same spot, typically the center of the pad, which cause the pad to fold over time if they are not supported directly over the striking area." CreationDate="2017-09-13T18:46:53.033" UserId="8566" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16276" PostId="7810" Score="0" Text="and 3) using materials soft enough that they do not damage the stick over time. My initial idea was to simply hold a metal rod, perhaps AL, but I realized that most MA sticks are wood and bad things could happen." CreationDate="2017-09-13T18:49:48.210" UserId="8566" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16277" PostId="7827" Score="0" Text="@mutt We're not here to discuss the rationality of martial arts competition. We're talking about effective kicking technique. I was pointing out a simple fact: your foot is fragile compared to your shin. You will cause less harm to yourself if you strike with your shin vs your foot. An added bonus is you will cause more damage you your opponent, which is generally the goal of a fight. Like I said, if he's doing point fighting that's a whole different story.&#xA;&#xA;I'm not trying to convince anyone to fight. But since we're talking about fighting, I'll provide what I know based on real world exp." CreationDate="2017-09-13T19:03:06.027" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16280" PostId="7827" Score="0" Text="**Comments are not for extended discussion. Please use chat.**" CreationDate="2017-09-14T07:29:41.173" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16284" PostId="7829" Score="1" Text="I can't see this question spawning anything more than speculation and choreographed fight sequences." CreationDate="2017-09-14T14:07:26.140" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16285" PostId="7829" Score="0" Text="@coinbird [This was discussed on meta before](https://martialarts.meta.stackexchange.com/q/407/82)" CreationDate="2017-09-14T14:21:53.517" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16286" PostId="7829" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion I know, I'm just a pessimist :)" CreationDate="2017-09-14T15:06:01.543" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16287" PostId="7831" Score="3" Text="Please take the [tour](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour). Your answer does not directly answer the question asked; whether Kyokushin or Shotokan is more suitable for those with a preference for sparring over kata." CreationDate="2017-09-14T15:43:34.317" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16288" PostId="7829" Score="2" Text="As framed, this is a bad question which basically boils down to: &quot;With nearly everything stacked against you, what magical solution can you come up with?&quot;.  A better question might be, &quot;What techniques and tactics are best suited when impaired by pepper spray?&quot;  Please tell us more why you're asking this question and maybe people can point you to better things for protecting yourself and/or finding information that can help you." CreationDate="2017-09-14T21:52:36.073" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16289" PostId="7829" Score="0" Text="@Bankuei That is what the question was before I said that it would be massively over broad because there would be too many factors to consider from one attacker to an army of riot police hell bend on smashing resistance and a multitude of weapons possible. ⍨" CreationDate="2017-09-15T07:19:55.477" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16292" PostId="7833" Score="0" Text="This is absolutely false. There is zero evidence that this works, and nearly unlimited evidence that that it does not work (ex. all of wrestling, MMA). Please do not spread misinformation about fighting techniques, as it can be extremely dangerous." CreationDate="2017-09-15T14:15:47.850" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16293" PostId="7835" Score="0" Text="IMO this particular phrasing probably is off-topic, but something like &quot;Is TKD an effective martial art&quot; would be on topic. My experience is that TKD practitioners hear them a lot (&quot;TKD is like ballet...&quot;), and even other MAs hear critics from street fighters/MMA people." CreationDate="2017-09-15T14:46:55.070" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16294" PostId="7835" Score="0" Text="You have a wide array of questions at the end there, most off topic for a wide range of reasons. *What is the concrete problem that you are trying to solve?*" CreationDate="2017-09-15T15:07:04.080" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16295" PostId="7835" Score="0" Text="@DanielReis Don't group street fighters with MMA fighters... MMA is a collection of martial arts that takes extreme discipline and dedication to pursue. I don't know what a street fighter is. An unstable person that acts out violently?" CreationDate="2017-09-15T15:40:36.950" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16296" PostId="7835" Score="0" Text="This doesn't have anything to do with martial arts. If you're having trouble dealing with discussion or alternative opinions maybe try the interpersonal skills exchange." CreationDate="2017-09-15T15:41:54.660" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16297" PostId="7829" Score="2" Text="Eh.  Right now it reads equivalent to that question we had a while back &quot;5 guys attack you in an alley and you can't get away&quot;.  Strangely specific while eliminating nearly every useful thing you would do (run, use a makeshift weapon), leaving... a non-described environment? I want the poster to give us a better understanding of why this is being asked to better frame it." CreationDate="2017-09-15T16:12:43.400" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16298" PostId="7835" Score="5" Text="We've had questions about social spaces in martial arts spaces/scenes before.  I think this is a valid topic.  Navigating toxic BS is a common problem." CreationDate="2017-09-15T16:15:17.710" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16300" PostId="7835" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion The concrete problem is bolded one at the very top of the question &quot;How does one deal with insults towards their martial art?&quot;" CreationDate="2017-09-15T21:59:52.600" UserId="8392" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16301" PostId="7835" Score="0" Text="@DanielReis I have deleted the question at the end to make it more clear what I am asking for. I am not asking if taekwondo is an effective art, but more how to deal with disrespectful comments from other people. In tkd we greatly value respect, and we are taught to respect other martial arts. Therefore I've never known what to do in these situations when someone straight out insults my own art." CreationDate="2017-09-15T22:02:45.753" UserId="8392" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16302" PostId="7835" Score="1" Text="@coinbird Thankyou for your suggestion, but I chose to ask this here as it's mostly targeted towards the martial arts community. If I wanted to &quot;how to deal with insults&quot;, I'd defininitely go to IPS. It's just that (at least in my area) making stereotypes about martial arts is a very common occurence.(you just encountered one example, with the MMA streetfighting)" CreationDate="2017-09-15T22:13:31.100" UserId="8392" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16303" PostId="7839" Score="2" Text="This is exactly the right answer. People all have different reasons for doing martial arts. Most people have a bunch of reasons, and they've selected their martial art by looking at what makes them happy and what satisfies those reasons. They might be wrong about whether their martial art truly achieves what they're looking for, but that's for them to figure out on their own later on when they're ready to look into it. It will require more than just some random troll coming along telling them they're stupid for doing their martial art." CreationDate="2017-09-16T03:46:49.407" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16304" PostId="7838" Score="0" Text="Thankyou for your answer, especially for providing the three different scenarios." CreationDate="2017-09-16T11:56:05.140" UserId="8392" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16305" PostId="7839" Score="0" Text="Thankyou for the advice :) I've upvoted your answer, but I chose to accept bankuei's as they also mentioned how sometimes leaving the scene is the best option. I will definitely keep this in mind though!" CreationDate="2017-09-16T12:57:04.660" UserId="8392" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16306" PostId="2424" Score="0" Text="Karate is kata. Kata is Karate." CreationDate="2017-09-17T09:47:09.913" UserId="6585" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16307" PostId="7840" Score="0" Text="Hi! Thanks for taking your time to write an answer. Whilst I agree that unarmed combat is completely insignificant in what you call &quot;the big picture&quot;, I believe we have different definitions of the word &quot;art. As bankukei mentioned in their answer, it only makes sense to judge something for what it is supposed to do. Since I first walked into my dojang 5 years ago, my only purpose for learning taekwondo has been, should the situation ever arise, to be able to protect myself and my loved ones against physical harm. I have no intention of joining the special forces, or learning combat shooting." CreationDate="2017-09-17T12:06:07.717" UserId="8392" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16310" PostId="7840" Score="0" Text="&quot;art doesn't exist&quot; (by unsupported demand for definition) + &quot;martial arts are useless&quot; is a bit of an existential dodge and doesn't really answer the question?  Also, I mean, security and police train unarmed methods all the time, so it's a fairly reasonable level of defense training for civilians." CreationDate="2017-09-17T17:08:57.717" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16315" PostId="7841" Score="1" Text="@Endery I think comparing two styles especially with such woolly criterion as &quot;fight&quot; and &quot;self defence&quot; would be over broad. However, a specific technique (or set of such as oshi taoshi/ikkio/ikkajo for example) would be a good question." CreationDate="2017-09-18T08:06:16.327" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16328" PostId="7840" Score="0" Text="@as4s4hetic You cannot prove 'art' exists and you cannot define it in any logical manner - and nobody can. This is because it doesn't. There is no 'art' there is only 'the way' and 'the way' has nothing to do with self-defense or protecting your loved ones. It has to do with yourself. It is what you are. Train, train, train. That is all there is. And then your question is answered." CreationDate="2017-09-18T18:45:30.107" UserId="6585" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16329" PostId="7840" Score="0" Text="@Bankuei You have bought into the great 'martial arts lie'. Paid a lot of money for a myth. The police in the US shoot unarmed people, never mind people with weapons. Where is the unarmed methods? Defense against whom or what? An unarmed homeless person dying of TB?" CreationDate="2017-09-18T18:55:05.590" UserId="6585" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16331" PostId="7312" Score="0" Text="Asked a friend of mine who is a professor in a different school system, and he wasn't aware of any other than the video." CreationDate="2017-09-18T20:00:58.557" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16332" PostId="7312" Score="0" Text="@JohnP: Thank you for following up. I guess I'll just have to make my own transcript. :)" CreationDate="2017-09-18T20:03:47.890" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16333" PostId="7312" Score="0" Text="He said his school is not that &quot;nice&quot;, and noted the sequences are intended to be a fun game that is kind of tricky, but not aggressive." CreationDate="2017-09-18T20:20:06.633" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16334" PostId="7312" Score="0" Text="@JohnP: Can he comment whether the sequences are a fixed set of movements, or if it's more of a general concept? It's been unclear to me when trying to read up on it. It certainly looks like a rehearsed sequence, but that can often apply to playing at a high level." CreationDate="2017-09-18T20:30:11.617" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16335" PostId="7312" Score="1" Text="Fixed sequences done with partners." CreationDate="2017-09-18T20:51:14.280" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16341" PostId="7841" Score="2" Text="The name of the style can be misleading.  Perhaps, refer to it as &quot;Real Aikido&quot; - with caps and quotes to distinguish it as a pronoun?  Traditional aikido can be left without quotes and caps to denote something more generic.  On the other hand, there are other styles of Aikido - Aikikai, Yoshinkan, Iwama, Tomiki, for example - and they're distinct from each other.  So  comparison between Real and Aikikai might be different between Real and Yoshinkan, since there are differences between Aikikai and Yoshinkan." CreationDate="2017-09-19T14:40:48.027" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16344" PostId="7841" Score="1" Text="@Wigwam Tomiki called his style *Shodokan*." CreationDate="2017-09-20T07:34:50.997" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16345" PostId="7848" Score="1" Text="What kind of sparring are you planning?" CreationDate="2017-09-21T03:50:38.777" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16347" PostId="7849" Score="5" Text="First, I think there *is a good question in there*. However, as it currently stands it reads as a rant (mixing actual unreferenced data and anecdotes) and is utterly unfocused. Are we talking about one martial art or all of them? Is this about partners defending themselves against abusers (note no gender implied here) or is it about martial arts teachers' perceived (rightly or wrongly) duty to not teach potential abusers? **What concrete problem are you trying to solve?**" CreationDate="2017-09-21T08:04:16.323" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16348" PostId="7849" Score="0" Text="I think it is rather an ethical and juridical question. This is what I understood: If a martial artist abuses her/his capabilities to harm other people, what is the responsibilty of the teacher or the martial art organisation? What are they doing to prevent such incidents and what should be done?" CreationDate="2017-09-21T09:20:21.560" UserId="6654" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16349" PostId="7848" Score="0" Text="@mattm level promotion test and competition" CreationDate="2017-09-21T11:22:11.737" UserId="8613" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16350" PostId="7848" Score="0" Text="Is the knee an allowed target? Is this point sparring or full-contact?" CreationDate="2017-09-21T12:23:03.137" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16351" PostId="7848" Score="0" Text="@mattm it seems allowed, however, assuming all the students are friends there's nobody do it on purpose. I don't really know what you mean by point sparring. The sparring is not paused when someone is considered hit successfully, it continues." CreationDate="2017-09-21T13:32:58.160" UserId="8613" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16352" PostId="7849" Score="0" Text="If you're a bad person that attacks people, no feel good lesson in a martial arts class is going to stop that. It's not the responsibility of martial arts instructors to dole out life lessons." CreationDate="2017-09-21T18:51:40.383" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16354" PostId="7849" Score="3" Text="Right now this is a jumble. Here's possible, more focused questions - 1) What do martial arts teach to prevent practitioners from becoming abusers? 2) What can martial arts teach people to do to better survive/escape domestic violence, especially in face of social/legal problems that support domestic violence?   I often say self defense is like having a fire extinguisher - it's good but if you're in a town full of arsonists, you have a different problem altogether that requires a larger society-wide solution." CreationDate="2017-09-21T21:12:25.363" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16364" PostId="7851" Score="0" Text="Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been [moved to chat](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/65992/discussion-on-answer-by-coinbird-what-kind-of-protector-to-use-when-sparring)." CreationDate="2017-09-22T04:03:14.740" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16365" PostId="7772" Score="1" Text="I don't understand how you can say these rules have been in place for years. There's no documentation of these rules on the Kukkiwon site. If you believe official documents exist, please show them. You've given links to USA websites (and those may be the rules in USA), but the question was asked about Kukkiwon (global) rules. I've attended the Master Instructor course and Poom/Dan Examiner course (certificates on my website at https://www.stevenagetaekwondo.co.uk/instructors) and I've promoted many people to black belt and beyond without needing a panel (or ever being told I needed one)." CreationDate="2017-09-22T06:52:16.510" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16366" PostId="7849" Score="2" Text="@gideon_marx: *What concrete problem are you trying to solve by asking this question?*" CreationDate="2017-09-22T06:53:58.113" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16367" PostId="7772" Score="1" Text="Even USAT's Dan Promotion Guidelines (http://go.teamusa.org/2wERdNl) say &quot;1.4. Those testing for 1st through 3rd Dan must test with their current Instructor.&quot; - no mention of a panel, no mention of a 6th Dan minimum for the examiner. Certainly no mention of a &quot;certified WTF facility&quot; - what the heck even is that, there are no certified WTF facilities, the WT (ex. WTF) is the &quot;International Federation (IF) governing the sport of Taekwondo&quot; http://worldtaekwondo.org/about-wt/about-wt/ and has nothing to do with Dan promotions. Again, please cite your sources or this is just your opinion of rules" CreationDate="2017-09-22T07:00:35.200" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16368" PostId="7849" Score="0" Text="This question seems to be targeted at the comment I made on [your answer here](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/7840/8392). If it is, then I'd be glad to discuss my personal experience learning taekwondo in [chat](https://chat.stackexchange.com/?tab=site&amp;host=martialarts.stackexchange.com) :)" CreationDate="2017-09-22T09:10:48.443" UserId="8392" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16369" PostId="7849" Score="0" Text="And even if it isn't, I'd still be happy to chat about this topic. As a female who practices taekwondo, I have been to many self defence classes for women which specifically adress domestic violence." CreationDate="2017-09-22T09:22:43.333" UserId="8392" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16370" PostId="7850" Score="0" Text="Generally it is best not to answer questions that are contentious. It stops askers to refine their questions so that they are reopened and generally does not answer the final question…" CreationDate="2017-09-22T10:09:59.297" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16371" PostId="7853" Score="0" Text="I don't know which answer is correct, so I accept the most voted :D" CreationDate="2017-09-22T11:27:27.297" UserId="8613" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16373" PostId="7772" Score="2" Text="&quot;There's no documentation of these rules on the Kukkiwon site.&quot; Yes, there certainly is.  Here is the link, it is the official Kukkiwon site.&#xA;&#xA;http://www.kukkiwon.or.kr/front/pageView.action?cmd=/eng/evaluate/regulations" CreationDate="2017-09-23T12:28:11.257" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16375" PostId="7772" Score="2" Text="Article 6, 5th bullet:&#xA;Those who have acquired an instructor certificate of 4th Dan and above may make recommendations for Poom or Dan promotion below their level." CreationDate="2017-09-23T12:28:25.347" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16376" PostId="7772" Score="2" Text="Article 11:&#xA;Must be 6th dan or higher, must have 3 to 5 (not 10, a recent change), and can be adjusted based on testing features" CreationDate="2017-09-23T12:28:43.857" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16377" PostId="7772" Score="1" Text="Article 15: Testing facility&#xA;The overall facility requirements for a testing place shall be set forth as follows pursuant to Article 8-②-2 of Test Regulations:&#xA;1. A testing place shall be a minimum of 15 meters in width by 12 meters in length (approximately 180 square meters).&#xA;2. The area for a Poomsae testing place for one session shall be a minimum of 20 square meters per person, 60 square meters for three individuals, 90 square meters for five individuals and 170 square meters for nine individuals." CreationDate="2017-09-23T12:29:06.023" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16378" PostId="7772" Score="1" Text="...3. A testing place for Kyorugi (Sparring) for two persons shall be a minimum of 10 meters in width by 10 meters in length.&#xA;4. A testing place for Kyokpa and special techniques shall be a minimum of 20 square meters per person.&#xA;5. For a smooth promotion test, at least 33 square meters must be secured for a waiting place for each testing subject.&#xA;6. The flooring of a practical testing place shall be comprised of elastic cover and a rubber mat.&#xA;7. A testing place shall be a fire-proof and disaster-proof area, where safety is guaranteed for the welfare of applicants." CreationDate="2017-09-23T12:29:17.497" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16379" PostId="7772" Score="0" Text="I said before, I say again: I stand by my answer.  I also stated that there are exceptions, and there are many - even egregious ones.  Most of the time, I think, the exceptions are given in deference to those who are held in high regard, and they are often entrusted to help keep backlog away from Kukkiwon and their procedures - a huge complaint years ago.  Yes, there are rules, and yes, there are exceptions.  I posted the official rules, and I stand by them." CreationDate="2017-09-23T12:32:17.257" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16380" PostId="7849" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion Each and every 'martial way' has to decide if it is going to incorporate the principle of 'Firstly, do no harm'. Every teacher has to decide if they are going to teach this principle. The greatest danger a martial artist pose is to his 'loved ones'. This has been an ongoing debate for some time. But we can talk and talk. Swear to our gods and buddhas. Words don't work. I believe there might be an answer within the training. The physical movements. Possibly in kata. No understanding or answers in this forum. Which is an answer. Don't teach adults." CreationDate="2017-09-23T12:33:41.563" UserId="6585" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16381" PostId="7772" Score="0" Text="I've been following these guidelines for at least 12 years since I've been on testing committees.  I don't know if, or how long, they've been in place before that." CreationDate="2017-09-23T12:34:37.990" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16382" PostId="7849" Score="0" Text="@as4s4hetic Your comment was actually one of the triggers. But it is of no importance except to alert me to the lack of discussion or even understanding of the problem in this forum. It is a topic we have been struggling with since the first UFC. I have made up my mind. I no longer teach adults. So there is nothing to chat about. All I ask is, don't do steroids and don't hurt your children in any way - no matter what." CreationDate="2017-09-23T12:50:24.503" UserId="6585" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16385" PostId="7833" Score="0" Text="im sorry man, but your completely wrong as ive tried this in practice and it is highly effective. believe it or not there are other martial arts which have drastically different techniques then the standard MMA style. although i thank you for looking out for other people" CreationDate="2017-09-24T16:01:11.823" UserId="8598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16386" PostId="7772" Score="1" Text="Have you attended the poom/dan examiner course? I did and recorded audio of one Kukkiwon instructor answering exactly this question (and had a very well respected international coach be witness to a different instructor saying the same thing). Those committees described in the regulations are for if you're running an open dan testing exam (to stop bias against other dojang's students). If you are testing your own students then only Article 6's rule applies. Anyway, we're not going to agree on this, so I'll stop here. There's lots of good information here either way for visitors to read." CreationDate="2017-09-25T07:26:09.140" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16387" PostId="7857" Score="1" Text="I agree, superb answer. I would just add one thing - that Karate is a DEMONSTRATION sport in Tokyo, not an OFFICIAL sport. Taekwondo was a demonstration sport twice (1988 and 1992) before it became official (in 2000) and there's no guarantee that Karate will get in again (outside of it's home country hosting the event). They could be excluded from future games like Lacross, Polo and Cricket (all three of which were official sports even, not medal sports)." CreationDate="2017-09-25T07:30:01.860" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16388" PostId="7772" Score="0" Text="Ok fair enough.  The idea that these articles were meant for open testing never came up, perhaps you are right.  And, no - I never did attend a formal seminar.  It's on my life's bucket list though" CreationDate="2017-09-25T10:37:23.133" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16389" PostId="7841" Score="1" Text="Oh, I always thought they were different!  I don't know much about the style, there is only one dojo I can find in NJ, they say they are part of the &quot;Tomiki Aikido of the Americas&quot;.  What is the difference between an org calling itself Tomiki or Shodokan?  Is it just in name?" CreationDate="2017-09-25T12:01:51.223" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16390" PostId="7854" Score="0" Text="Not sure about the others, but BJJ is 8-10 years of very regular training (3-5 days per week) for a black belt." CreationDate="2017-09-25T16:58:55.130" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16391" PostId="7772" Score="1" Text="To be honest, I wouldn't recommend the Poom/Dan Examiner Course (unless it's changed a lot in the last two years), but the Master Instructor Course is really good. I kept diaries of all three on my blog if you're interested in the read... https://www.andyjeffries.co.uk/" CreationDate="2017-09-25T18:31:03.087" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16392" PostId="1826" Score="0" Text="I have to disagree with the way this post is presented for one. somewhat nit-picky reason; power and speed are not different. As a matter of fact, I will go as far as to state `striking power = speed + penetration`. My reasoning behind this is that, in terms of physics, `force = mass * acceleration`. Humans do not have the ability to change their mass at will, so in terms of martial arts, it is effectively removed from the equation. However, we do have the ability to use counter-operative muscles to decelerate our strike before impact, or pull our punches. That's where penetration comes in." CreationDate="2017-09-25T19:06:58.643" UserId="8566" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16393" PostId="5493" Score="0" Text="I really can't believe that you seriously don't know the answer to your question. It's so obvious that there's an argument that fighting in a Gi where people will be tugging on and using the Gi in loads of the moves, is unrealistic." CreationDate="2017-09-26T09:41:05.350" UserId="8624" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16394" PostId="7858" Score="0" Text="This is it! I am amazed how I could not find this even if I googled with almost all of the words the above quote holds. Obviously, the only thing missing was the name of that 10th dan judo master. I am somewhere between recreational and technical, still learning the basics and enjoying training, but also teaching kids." CreationDate="2017-09-26T11:48:14.563" UserId="6488" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16395" PostId="6635" Score="1" Text="&quot;Make it fun to fall&quot; - Kids love to be thrown with Tomoe-nage as long as they land on a big fat soft matress. It is almost like a rollercoaster ride!" CreationDate="2017-09-26T11:58:55.180" UserId="6488" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16396" PostId="7858" Score="0" Text="@diynevala: I basically lurked through youtube and was interested in what was hiding behind the title of this video. The moment I heard the quote, I immediately thought of this question." CreationDate="2017-09-26T12:26:38.950" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16397" PostId="5432" Score="0" Text="An exercise that has has been repeated by many people over the years is for one party to put on a cheap white tshirt, and another to &quot;attack&quot; them with some kind of felt tip pen used like a knife. Once the attacker is defeated the tshirt is examined to see how many times the defender was maimed/killed. the almost universal answer was &quot;bloody loads&quot;. (Very occasionally the defender might manage a fluke &quot;instant&quot; victory.) There is no reliable anti-knife syllabus that doesn't involve being at least equally well armed." CreationDate="2017-09-26T14:24:14.937" UserId="8536" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16398" PostId="7857" Score="1" Text="Great answer. A little explanation on why karate/TKD are different sports (No single unifying governing body) might have helped, or a clearer delineation that the cap on Olympic sports is 28, which is why the elevation/inclusion/exclusion carousel runs every few years. Sports do not award medals, events do." CreationDate="2017-09-26T20:49:22.797" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16399" PostId="7857" Score="1" Text="On another aside, we had a weapons camp this summer where a group came in and demonstrated the new scoring rules, and the associated gear. Very cool. I think it will be a huge boost for Olympic TKD sparring." CreationDate="2017-09-26T20:50:27.973" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16400" PostId="7857" Score="0" Text="Thank you all for the comments!  Andy - yes, it is a demo sport.  I read somewhere possible to create events under umbrella &quot;martial arts&quot;, and include TKD, karate, etc - there's others like wushu which didn't make the cut.  Some arrangement like that would allow sparring, self-defense, poomsae/kata, and weapons to be showcased.  Think politics there would kill that?  lol" CreationDate="2017-09-26T22:32:07.527" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16401" PostId="7857" Score="0" Text="John P, yes - that 28 is a number the IOC came up with to help put a lid on expenses cities have to incur.  More sports = more infrastructure, and costs would be too great to handle with no limit to the number of sports.  What's a country to do with all that bribe money anyway?  :-)  But as to your points, I don't think they really answer the question, but they do make a great new question, consider asking?" CreationDate="2017-09-26T22:37:09.540" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16402" PostId="7772" Score="0" Text="I have an opportunity to take a master instructor course here in NJ in November.  Here's a link: https://www.wtmu.org/kukkiwon-courses  I don't know anything about the organization, the flier came to me via spam email.  It caught my interest, but I'd have to take two days off work, and anyway, it conflicts with a scouting trip.  But I'm told these things happen all the time, so maybe I can catch another one somewhere else nearby.  Thank you for the link, I'll check them out." CreationDate="2017-09-26T22:42:18.540" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16403" PostId="7762" Score="0" Text="I found one [blog post](https://rickva.wordpress.com/2013/10/25/health-fitness-and-martial-arts/) that says exactly what I am after: **In a general martial arts class you probably have the three types. Therefore, it’s unfair to the recreational practitioner to have them go through the mandatory rigors the competitive practitioner must go through to achieve their goals.**" CreationDate="2017-09-27T06:58:48.653" UserId="6488" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16404" PostId="2617" Score="1" Text="You need to be a complete fighter to deal with that. The guy might run into striking range, so you need to be able to defend against his strikes. He might run through striking range and crash into you, so you also need to be able to turn that into a throw (or at least redirect him), he might grab you, so you also need to be able to fight in the clinch, he might go for a take down, so you also need take down defence, and despite all your efforts you might end up on the floor so you also need a ground game - even if it's just surviving to get up as fast as possible!" CreationDate="2017-09-27T10:26:49.320" UserId="8536" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16405" PostId="7259" Score="0" Text="Re: nose into brain - a beautifully eloquent example of the question has already been asked. :-)  (And answered.)  https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/18165/can-you-punch-someones-nose-into-their-brain" CreationDate="2017-09-27T13:39:02.193" UserId="8536" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16406" PostId="7854" Score="0" Text="You can't develop consistent reliable muscle patterning in 2 weeks. You can probably memorize a form, but that's about the extent of it." CreationDate="2017-09-27T18:03:34.123" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16407" PostId="7857" Score="1" Text="@Wigwam - As you commented, I have long thought it would be great to see one SPORT called martial arts, then boxing, karate, tkd, fencing, judo and possibly wrestling all made *events* underneath that sport, which would free up 4 or 5 sport slots, but given the governing body restriction it would either never fly or require a major restructuring of the Olympic charter." CreationDate="2017-09-28T15:01:04.253" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16408" PostId="7869" Score="2" Text="http://www.topendsports.com/events/summer/sport-selection.htm provides some information on why we have the 28 sports we do have and what it takes to change it." CreationDate="2017-09-28T17:58:35.807" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16413" PostId="7869" Score="1" Text="Renaming those sports wouldn't magically create more time or space for additional events." CreationDate="2017-09-28T21:18:57.167" UserId="8634" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16414" PostId="7869" Score="0" Text="@chepner not if the only limitation is the # of sports. If the constrictions noted by wigwam are right, then you are also correct." CreationDate="2017-09-28T23:45:32.340" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16415" PostId="7863" Score="1" Text="This answer is correct. I would just add that the preference for right-handedness is built into the forms in many places, especially repeating a series of movements 3 times instead of 2. This right-handed preference is with regard to a right-handed attacker, not necessarily what the form has you do. The origin of ITF forms is Shotokan karate, which comes from Okinawan karate. And Okinawan karate kata are all encoding classical jujitsu-like grappling defenses. So that gives you a clue why a form would start the way it does. It's usually b/c an attacker is using his right hand against you." CreationDate="2017-09-29T02:34:18.040" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16417" PostId="7863" Score="0" Text="@Steve Weigand Thankyou for adding the part about the origin!" CreationDate="2017-09-29T06:46:55.153" UserId="8392" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16418" PostId="7874" Score="1" Text="+1 for the last paragraph (I'll show myself out before I can go on a rant)." CreationDate="2017-09-29T07:16:12.707" UserId="8392" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16419" PostId="7863" Score="1" Text="I think it is important to stress that those 'blocks' are mostly grabbing, entangling, or hitting of limbs/groins/etc. in classical Okinawan bunkai. Most 'blocking' is shoehorned as an explanation after the fact. The old pictures indicating meaning are mean, dirty fighting, not exchange of strikes and kicks with blocks." CreationDate="2017-09-29T07:52:30.543" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16421" PostId="6741" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion what would be a valid reason for point 10? I had trained at my school for 5 years and it didn't seem like a McDojo, but I do not understand why no one was allowed to practice other martial arts. I was too afraid to ask my instructor, and it's one of the main reasons I left the school." CreationDate="2017-09-29T09:19:53.883" UserId="8392" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16430" PostId="7881" Score="2" Text="Technique counts much more than muscle..." CreationDate="2017-09-30T03:50:41.407" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16434" PostId="7881" Score="1" Text="Please take the [tour](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour) to see how we work." CreationDate="2017-09-30T13:48:28.920" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16438" PostId="7883" Score="0" Text="If you get more specific with your questions, you can get better answers - if you end up working on a specific technique, put it up as a question.  There may be someone who can give you very good information instead of a broad overview and that will help a lot more." CreationDate="2017-10-01T21:10:38.230" UserId="1598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16440" PostId="7883" Score="0" Text="Thank you for your advice ese... I will take it to heart." CreationDate="2017-10-02T10:10:04.480" UserId="8635" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16447" PostId="7885" Score="0" Text="I wish I could upvote this more than once." CreationDate="2017-10-02T20:05:52.827" UserId="8276" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16449" PostId="7887" Score="0" Text="I remember a sport science episode on just that… However, cannot fathom which one it was and is certainly not rigorous." CreationDate="2017-10-03T06:56:42.223" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16451" PostId="7889" Score="1" Text="The statement that &quot;[…] the bigger the muscle the more power.&quot; is either inaccurate or unclear: free climbers do not have massive muscles like body builders yet the formers are very powerful indeed. Muscle mass vs density is also not addressed. Finally, [Chimpanzees vs. Humans: Sizing Up Their Strength](http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/chimpanzees-humans-sizing-strength/story?id=16696826) addresses some animal vs human strength." CreationDate="2017-10-03T12:34:15.910" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16452" PostId="7889" Score="0" Text="it's a granular level.  you never use a single muscle by itself, and neither does any other animal.  So your are right in that the motion + combination of muscles determines it.  Like a chimp constantly uses the same muscles their whole lives, thus it's stronger, but on the chimp the larger muscles on it's body have more strength capability than the smaller muscles on it's body." CreationDate="2017-10-03T12:37:00.030" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16453" PostId="7889" Score="0" Text="Just think of bruce lee, his tone of every muscle is incredible thus resulting in crazy strength overall...but his bigger muscles are capably of delivering more power so his kicks with poor technique will be less powerful due to less core muscle usage.  I hope that makes sense, it's hard to fully articulate in a short post." CreationDate="2017-10-03T12:39:06.470" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16454" PostId="7889" Score="0" Text="and to be clear you can't compare two different people as one's condition is different than the other one, so it would be comparing one person with different motions and where they have the most power." CreationDate="2017-10-03T12:40:16.663" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16455" PostId="7887" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion I remember that episode! Like you said, it was not rigorous at all. They used one subject per martial art they were testing, so the data they gathered is for pure entertainment only." CreationDate="2017-10-03T13:42:35.233" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16456" PostId="7887" Score="1" Text="Please do not accept an answer before at least 24 hours have passed. It encourages others to write their own (potentially better) ones." CreationDate="2017-10-03T13:55:15.423" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16457" PostId="7890" Score="2" Text="This answer is a good explanation of golf physics, but the extension to kicking is not clear at all. Who kicks using gravity to move the leg as a pendulum? Also, the final conclusion seems to be that core strength/conditioning always has relevance." CreationDate="2017-10-03T14:52:58.173" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16459" PostId="7890" Score="0" Text="Ok, made clarifications, HTH" CreationDate="2017-10-03T17:12:55.597" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16460" PostId="7869" Score="0" Text="So you just want MMA as an Olympic sport? Me too." CreationDate="2017-10-03T21:06:52.553" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16461" PostId="7869" Score="0" Text="@coinbird - No. And I doubt MMA would ever make it into the Olympics under the current KO model. It would need to have an amateur padded version ala boxing, plus all the other regulatory items (Single recognized governing body, WADA/USADA subscription which is barely being implemented in MMA currently), etc etc." CreationDate="2017-10-03T21:11:41.970" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16462" PostId="7891" Score="1" Text="Any answer that ends with &quot;I don't know, maybe&quot; and &quot;was told by a long lost friend&quot; is hardly substantiated enough to be reliable. Also, I have attempted to edit your answer to make it more readable. Please revert if I have changed the meaning substantially." CreationDate="2017-10-03T21:15:43.313" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16463" PostId="7893" Score="0" Text="I would strongly recommend looking up [the tour](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour) to see how this site works…" CreationDate="2017-10-04T08:21:29.137" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16466" PostId="7869" Score="0" Text="@JohnP USADA is absolutely being implemented in the UFC, the top MMA organization. Also amateurs don't use headgear or shinguards in MMA. At least no organization I've ever seen or fought for. But you're right, it probably wouldn't ever get passed. Seeing how much they dumb down boxing makes it not worth trying." CreationDate="2017-10-04T13:54:02.487" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16468" PostId="7869" Score="0" Text="@coinbird - I know that USADA is being implemented. However, it is in the nascent stages of it (I subscribe to the USADA and WADA twitter feeds, I am hugely anti-doping), and kinks are still being worked out. UFC is primarily a promotion organization. They do not dictate rules for anyone but themselves, and they are not recognized as a NGB, no recognized national championship, etc. Also there are requirements for all of the above in a certain proportion of Olympic member nations. MMA is very far from that." CreationDate="2017-10-04T14:25:00.870" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16469" PostId="7869" Score="0" Text="@JohnP Agreed, very far from that, and with no intention of working toward it. International MMA is already huge without the Olympics." CreationDate="2017-10-04T14:39:29.523" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16470" PostId="6741" Score="0" Text="I would say there is a certain validity to point 10 in the case of very low level students, as there are detriments to studying under different masters and styles simultaneously before developing some low level of competency. For example, a student who is learning 3 or 4 different ways to perform a specific technique before acquiring a basic familiarity with that technique will doubtless find it very confusing while his instructors will find it quite frustrating." CreationDate="2017-10-04T20:34:30.743" UserId="6083" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16471" PostId="7896" Score="0" Text="I have tried to cleanup your answer. Please reedit it if I have accidentally changed the meaning." CreationDate="2017-10-05T02:23:19.817" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16472" PostId="7896" Score="3" Text="Hello Mr. Redfeather, welcome to this site. It would be very nice if you have explained your system a little bit, so that the visitors have an overview. Because you are a first-hand source to gain information, and that's a very good chance for us all." CreationDate="2017-10-05T06:56:56.560" UserId="6654" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16473" PostId="6741" Score="0" Text="**Please re-read the first sentence of the post before adding yet another comment to justify any of the points!** Yes, *any of those points* can easily be justifiable. This is why this is a list of *warnings* not *canonical* signs." CreationDate="2017-10-05T07:16:44.263" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16474" PostId="7896" Score="2" Text="Robert, your answer doesn't appear to actually answer the question?" CreationDate="2017-10-05T07:17:28.447" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16475" PostId="7896" Score="2" Text="I would add my voice to those wanting more details. Provided that you are who you claim to be (that remains to be seen), it would be very useful if you took the time to expand this answer." CreationDate="2017-10-05T07:22:07.753" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16476" PostId="7835" Score="0" Text="Late comment: What helps me (always!) is picturing the insulter as a 70's Kung Fu Film Villain going &quot;Yourr Dragon-Style is good but *my Tiger-Claw* will destroy you!!&quot; - I immediately have to grin and walk away. And after all: _&quot;They are all bull***t&quot;_ - Master Ken" CreationDate="2017-10-05T07:39:28.753" UserId="1631" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16478" PostId="7899" Score="2" Text="If you have seen it happen for yourself, why are you asking whether it is possible?" CreationDate="2017-10-05T19:27:32.020" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16479" PostId="7899" Score="0" Text="To understand how can it be done? Has the attacker used special technique? Is there a way to faster protect yourself/ heal from such attacks?" CreationDate="2017-10-05T19:33:33.473" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16480" PostId="7899" Score="1" Text="This needs way more information.  what kind of hit, what is the goal of the hit, what situation, is there a style of martial arts in question, etc...  Way vague on this question, please add alot of specificity to get an answer." CreationDate="2017-10-05T22:15:15.530" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16483" PostId="7872" Score="0" Text="Also, Olympics is competing to win a medal.  What system would allow for global fair competition with something as broad and diverse as martial arts.  They have standardization for all sports and that would be too broad to standardize martial arts in general." CreationDate="2017-10-05T22:21:41.793" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16486" PostId="7899" Score="0" Text="Depending on the focus of the technique the bruising may have been internal and thus not visible." CreationDate="2017-10-06T08:03:22.077" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16490" PostId="7902" Score="2" Text="Interesting. According to this answer, the Chinese for &quot;practitioner of Tai Chi Chuan&quot; would be &quot;太极拳家&quot;, or &quot;Tàijí quán jiā&quot;. I'm not sure this is the correct answer, but this is probably a good guess. Upvoting, but waiting for other comments / answers before closing. Thank you!" CreationDate="2017-10-08T11:59:48.727" UserId="8664" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16491" PostId="7900" Score="0" Text="By answering a controversial question, you stopped it being revised into something better and answerable. As such, we are left with a terrible question and a poor answer." CreationDate="2017-10-08T14:17:36.690" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16492" PostId="7899" Score="1" Text="Seems clear to me.  What's the problem with this question and answer?" CreationDate="2017-10-08T15:07:52.390" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16493" PostId="7899" Score="0" Text="@HuwEvans Is it asking about how bruising works? Is it asking about how to heal bruising? Is it asking about how to either avoid or create bruising when hitting someone? Is it asking about mythical ki-powered magic that does not create bruising? In its current form, the question is gibberish. In turns, this means that the answer is bad because it does not answer the question -- it cannot do so!" CreationDate="2017-10-09T09:11:23.583" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16494" PostId="7899" Score="1" Text="Looks clear to me. He wants to know about hitting people hard without bruising them. How do you do it?" CreationDate="2017-10-09T10:51:58.297" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16495" PostId="7899" Score="0" Text="@HuwEvans If you have a problem with the closure for this question, open a meta discussion. Comment are not the place to discus this extensively." CreationDate="2017-10-09T14:29:43.363" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16496" PostId="7900" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion - You're right. We all make mistakes." CreationDate="2017-10-09T14:33:35.127" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16497" PostId="7900" Score="0" Text="I have made my share as well. What is the saying? Ah, yes: wise men learn from other people 's mistakes!" CreationDate="2017-10-09T18:10:02.157" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16500" PostId="7904" Score="2" Text="What organisation are you part of?" CreationDate="2017-10-10T11:51:09.553" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16501" PostId="7899" Score="0" Text="@HuwEvans If it is clear to you how to reword this (or any other closed or on-hold) question to get a good, answerable question that matches the original author's intent, please edit it." CreationDate="2017-10-10T19:21:23.150" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16505" PostId="7899" Score="0" Text="@mattm Sometimes it is possible to determine what the askers wants even if they phrased it badly. In that case, an edit (with a comment) is generally a good thing we should all do. However, if the question could be asking several different things (like this one) then it is impossible for anyone but the asked to clarify it. *This is all the &quot;on hold&quot; means!* A small amount of clarification could make any of the above interesting questions. Only Avi can make the questions clearer. If they cannot be bothered to do that, the question will eventually be closed." CreationDate="2017-10-11T08:20:43.167" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16507" PostId="7899" Score="0" Text="The only thing I asked is if there is What is the way (if any) to hit and no bruise will be left on the body of the attacked person." CreationDate="2017-10-11T08:47:15.037" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16510" PostId="7899" Score="0" Text="@Avi Then please delete your comment containing &quot;Is there a way to faster protect yourself/ heal from such attacks?&quot;" CreationDate="2017-10-11T12:23:43.533" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16511" PostId="7899" Score="0" Text="It is just  a continuity to the question." CreationDate="2017-10-11T12:33:48.080" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16513" PostId="7265" Score="0" Text="Sorry to start this up again, but now I'm confused about flying side kick (twimyo yopcha busigi). I was led to believe busigi means snapping motion (as in apcha busigi). So if side kick is chagi, and side piercing kick is jirugi, then how can flying side kick end up as busigi?" CreationDate="2017-10-11T07:45:27.740" UserId="8676" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16514" PostId="7265" Score="0" Text="This should be asked as a separate question.&#xA;simple breakdown 'twimyo' flying - 'yop' side - 'cha' kick - 'busi' smash/snap - 'gi' motion&#xA;so twimyo yopcha busigi - flying side smash/snap kick" CreationDate="2017-10-11T08:34:29.330" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16515" PostId="7265" Score="0" Text="@Levy88 - As stated, this should be a new question rather than an answer on this one. I have converted it to a comment for now, when you ask a new question I will delete these." CreationDate="2017-10-11T14:09:04.047" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16516" PostId="649" Score="0" Text="They serve the same purpose as boxing gloves: to protect yourself, and your training partners. Dealing actual damage in sparring doesn't help either party. Also, kicks still feel like hell with the shin guards on. I've been dropped from leg kicks and body kicks with shin guards several times." CreationDate="2017-10-11T14:17:26.317" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16517" PostId="7905" Score="0" Text="The &quot;太极拳手&quot; option has a pronounce similar to the guess of my chinese friend, therefore I'm inclined to trust this one (and think that he used the same reasoning to get there). Also, I want to note here that there are many ways to address a Kung Fu teacher, the most famous being &quot;sifu&quot; (a teacher addressed by his disciple) and a more general &quot;lao shi&quot; (a teacher addressed by common practitioners, not disciples). What do you think of the &quot;-jia&quot; suffix suggested by Wigwam?" CreationDate="2017-10-11T14:21:09.107" UserId="8664" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16521" PostId="7901" Score="0" Text="You *might* get better answers from [chinese.se](https://chinese.stackexchange.com/)… Not that any answer here are bad at all! ☺" CreationDate="2017-10-12T08:02:25.183" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16522" PostId="7908" Score="0" Text="Yes, the absence of specialized terms is something that even my instructor (who has been to China to practice with our grand master multiple times) told me. It was just too weird that there was no mean at all to address practitioners ;) Thank you for your contribution!" CreationDate="2017-10-12T10:39:14.893" UserId="8664" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16523" PostId="7909" Score="5" Text="Upvote for pointing out that the disciple's shī'fu and the &quot;common folk&quot;'s shī'fu both exist and are actually written with different ideograms!" CreationDate="2017-10-12T10:40:44.637" UserId="8664" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16524" PostId="7853" Score="1" Text="@Areef - If you don't *know* which is correct, then you should research it on your own a little more. Simply blindly accepting an answer because it has votes doesn't really do much for anyone." CreationDate="2017-10-12T14:34:02.227" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16525" PostId="7905" Score="1" Text="&quot;-jia&quot; is correct :) I was just listing other options, some of which are used more commonly." CreationDate="2017-10-13T05:26:07.153" UserId="8392" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16527" PostId="7841" Score="1" Text="@Wigwam Time to ask a question?… ☺" CreationDate="2017-10-13T11:32:02.090" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16528" PostId="1486" Score="1" Text="Aside from all this, I'd say a big difference is also which style of Tai Chi. Yang style, for example, will be easier for complete beginners to pick up than Chen style." CreationDate="2017-10-13T12:37:59.960" UserId="7414" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16529" PostId="7902" Score="0" Text="&quot;Chinese&quot; - is that Mandarin or Kantonese here?" CreationDate="2017-10-13T13:45:22.600" UserId="1631" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16530" PostId="7902" Score="0" Text="It is mandarin.  It is also true that the term &quot;jia&quot; refers to a master or knowledgeable person.  What is interesting to me is that in Japanese, anyone is a &quot;-ka&quot;, while in Chinese, only a master is a &quot;-jia&quot; and yet, both languages use the same character.  Now I have to find out if the same is true in Japanese - I always thought &quot;-ka&quot; was JUST a &quot;practictioner of&quot;, and not &quot;master&quot;." CreationDate="2017-10-13T14:10:06.280" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16531" PostId="7908" Score="0" Text="I should have read your answer before writing my previous comment.  While &quot;-jia&quot; (chinese) and &quot;-ka&quot; (japanese) are written with the same character, only Chinese more or less means &quot;skilled&quot; or &quot;master&quot;.  I'd wondered why in Japanese it didn't, or at least that is what I thought.  So &quot;-ka&quot; does not now refer only to skilled?  Or can anyone now be a &quot;-ka&quot;?  Or is it still true that only the skilled are &quot;-ka&quot;?" CreationDate="2017-10-13T14:14:58.500" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16532" PostId="7908" Score="1" Text="@Wigwam In modern English usage, judoka is used for any practitioner, regardless of skill level. This includes English language books written by native Japanese. I believe the same is true of karateka, aikidoka, etc. I am not sure of the usage in Japanese language." CreationDate="2017-10-13T14:26:20.257" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16533" PostId="7908" Score="0" Text="@mattm I can confirm for literature in German, too. Maybe *that* is a question for japanese SE?" CreationDate="2017-10-13T14:55:57.033" UserId="1631" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16539" PostId="7914" Score="1" Text="Please do not argue back and forth in comments. Especially do not attack people because they choose to either use part of their name or a pseudonym. There are many reasons people may wish to be anonymous on the internet, calling them names and impugning their reputation for it is not acceptable conduct. Also, if you have issue with a question being suitable or not suitable for the site, the place to ask about it is on meta, not posting a counter rant in disguise." CreationDate="2017-10-14T22:21:18.020" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16542" PostId="7917" Score="0" Text="Street fighting? MMA gyms now teach street fighting? … We clearly have some very different definitions of street fighting." CreationDate="2017-10-16T07:07:41.757" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16544" PostId="4203" Score="1" Text="Good description there. Philosophically speaking, Systema is like Jedi training while Krav Maga is like Sith training." CreationDate="2017-10-16T08:29:35.480" UserId="7611" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16545" PostId="6370" Score="0" Text="&quot;Systema takes its techniques in part from other martial arts that are considered internal (Aikido being one of them).&quot;  You say a 2000 years old system takes techniques from a 50 years old one. No. Now if you dig out where Aikido originated from, you'll get closer to a more comparative time frame, but still insufficient." CreationDate="2017-10-16T08:34:14.910" UserId="7611" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16546" PostId="6371" Score="0" Text="I strongly disagree. Your view is very limited. What you say is the equivalent for having 2 big dudes standing still in front of each other just hitting without nothing else involved. This is not at all how a fight goes. 1. Just lifting one arm has a psychological effect, even if you do not actually use it. That in turn, can cause your enemy to be distracted. You have tactical advantage without hitting him. 2. Muscles require fuel/energy. Energy flows differently from person to person, from muscle to muscle. 3. There's also math involved in all of this, which is another part you ignored." CreationDate="2017-10-16T08:39:40.883" UserId="7611" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16547" PostId="6371" Score="0" Text="&quot;The only internal forces that people can generate to effect the outside world are via our muscle tissue.&quot; The statement is completely incorrect, from any physical p.o.v." CreationDate="2017-10-16T08:58:12.143" UserId="7611" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16548" PostId="7916" Score="0" Text="If you want to learn to fight you absolutely MUST learn striking and grappling martial arts. Yes, at the same time." CreationDate="2017-10-16T14:35:10.400" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16549" PostId="7912" Score="1" Text="Honestly, just get a jock, or even better, compression shorts with a built in jock. Diamond MMA makes an excellent one. I've been kicked clean in the balls a few times and that thing didn't move an inch." CreationDate="2017-10-16T14:38:07.460" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16550" PostId="7917" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion Well that implies you believe something else other than MMA training will make you a better street fighter. Although that debate rages on in martial arts circles, I have accepted that MMA training isn't perfect, but it produces strong street fighters. Yes, we all know about the dangers of adaptation to sport rules vs. street fighting. Most MMA people are aware of the distinction as well. And not all MMA schools are the same. Take the Dog Brothers, for example. They add stick and knife to their full contact regimen. What they do is MMA, but with less restrictive rules." CreationDate="2017-10-16T14:40:39.010" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16551" PostId="7917" Score="0" Text="*We have different definition of street fighting.* Unarmed combat is a tiny fraction of street fighting: weapons here rule the playground and murder is the goal. No Mexican cartel sicario ever learned MMA but they are highly effective street fighters." CreationDate="2017-10-16T14:45:51.050" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16552" PostId="7917" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion Yes, I was referring only to unarmed combat. MMA training is arguably the best route for learning that particular segment of street fighting. For weapons, there are a number of MMA schools that add stick, knife, and machete, usually as a supplementary class. There are many MMA gyms that teach it as a complementary program. They extend their core MMA training with weapons, rather than teaching the two separately. In addition to that, you can go out and learn how to shoot a handgun and carry that with you. Either way, MMA is great to have at the core of it all backing it up." CreationDate="2017-10-16T14:56:12.113" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16553" PostId="7913" Score="1" Text="See also [Is practising techniques on both the left and right sides beneficial or detrimental to martial development?](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/40/5961)" CreationDate="2017-10-16T20:59:27.523" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16555" PostId="7920" Score="2" Text="There are multiple federations involved with Tomiki Aikido - JAA, Shin Shin, etc.  There are reasons why the lineage is fractured, but none of them affect the quality of the teaching or the value of the aikido." CreationDate="2017-10-16T22:35:18.893" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16560" PostId="7885" Score="1" Text="I would like to add to this that a good way to maximize velocity is to keep your body as relaxed a possible, only tensing the muscles required for the strike. A lot of beginning martial artists struggle with this only to loose power and waste energy through counter-operative muscle groups. It's also worthwhile to note that post-contact penetration is important when striking humans or other soft targets." CreationDate="2017-10-18T20:11:17.973" UserId="8566" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16561" PostId="7919" Score="1" Text="Same problem with Aikido Osaka-Kobayashi Aikido. I have trained it for years and didn't hear the term Aikido Osaka, because everyone says simply Kobayashi. But of course Kobayashi Sensei didn't name his system with his own." CreationDate="2017-10-19T07:01:57.897" UserId="6654" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16562" PostId="5951" Score="0" Text="Dan Inosanto's video appears to have been taken down... Maybe you can replace the link?" CreationDate="2017-10-20T03:26:07.457" UserId="8699" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16563" PostId="5951" Score="0" Text="@Marc.2377 Yeah, no surprise there. Thank you." CreationDate="2017-10-20T07:20:20.460" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16564" PostId="7912" Score="0" Text="Is it a requirement that you use the the string setup?" CreationDate="2017-10-20T15:34:16.100" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16565" PostId="7912" Score="0" Text="@JohnP it is. That's the only setup the strings are long enough for." CreationDate="2017-10-20T16:39:21.180" UserId="8680" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16566" PostId="7912" Score="0" Text="@HeikkiMäenpää - No, what I mean is, is it a dojang/studio requirement that you use a groin guard with strings? Or is it allowed to use other versions of a groin guard?" CreationDate="2017-10-20T17:15:28.350" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16567" PostId="7912" Score="0" Text="@JohnP In that case, no. As a matter of fact I do BJJ so a groin guard isn't even required by the gym." CreationDate="2017-10-20T18:50:50.100" UserId="8680" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16573" PostId="7928" Score="3" Text="Have you seen this post with 3 theories about the origins/meaning of oss/osu? [The Meaning of &quot;OSS&quot; / &quot;OSU&quot;](http://www.karatebyjesse.com/meaning-oss-osu-japanese/)" CreationDate="2017-10-22T01:09:07.303" UserId="6857" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16574" PostId="2504" Score="0" Text="Speaking as a student of Shorinji Kempo (WSKO) I believe there is some (not necessarily a lot but still, some) Influence that is Chinese.  I have seen several videos of Hakkoryu, but this is more similar to aikido than shoriji kempo.  It lacks the characteristic of having exclusively techniques with no grip change.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IXQykaPKos&#xA;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wi67jk5lAM" CreationDate="2017-10-22T19:41:59.133" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16576" PostId="7928" Score="3" Text="@HugoFerreira - Rather than point someone to an outside link, perhaps you could post an answer summarizing the information here, and use the link as a reference?" CreationDate="2017-10-23T00:25:36.203" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16579" PostId="7928" Score="1" Text="@JohnP it's a very obvious 3rd place result in a simple Google search for “meaning of oss”… checking first if the OP thinks it addresses his question" CreationDate="2017-10-23T08:41:20.027" UserId="6857" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16581" PostId="7928" Score="2" Text="@HugoFerreira Thanks for the suggested link. There are a lot of articles out there, but few, if any, have citations or references to legitimize their claims or opinions.  A lot of them are copy-cat articles as well.  I will continue to dig and share as I have time." CreationDate="2017-10-23T12:23:35.357" UserId="7401" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16582" PostId="7932" Score="4" Text="&quot;What martial art should I do question #78395833&quot;" CreationDate="2017-10-23T15:50:43.453" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16583" PostId="7932" Score="0" Text="@coinbird that's my question. What would be better, most effective, easier for young kids." CreationDate="2017-10-23T16:09:14.673" UserId="8709" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16585" PostId="7928" Score="1" Text="@mattm - I am reluctant to mark it as a duplicate where the primary answer to the question is a non referenced opinion from a user that removed their account." CreationDate="2017-10-23T18:54:02.303" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16586" PostId="7933" Score="0" Text="Thank you for your answer. All you wrote makes sense, but what I meant when I mentioned 3-4 year olds, is the time they would start training so that at an older age, 10-15 they could effectively defend themselves. So I was wondering, what kind or martial arts a 3 year old would find easier to learn." CreationDate="2017-10-23T19:30:26.573" UserId="8709" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16588" PostId="7933" Score="3" Text="@shieldedtulip: Sorry to say that, but given they are not freaks of some kind, physically speaking, 10-15 year-olds cannot defend against a full grown man with intention. Do not allow people to fool you: Size and muscle weight DO matter. Even if they were highly trained, their best self-defense is RUNNING. Like really fast and enduring. Everything else, if successful, relies on pure luck, which is nothing I would base the well-being of my children on. They may learn to hurt someone, perhaps even quite badly, but hurt men with intention are only more dangerous." CreationDate="2017-10-23T19:38:07.930" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16589" PostId="7933" Score="0" Text="Good point. Thank you. I used my teeth to great success, combined with my voice. Just thought there might be something better." CreationDate="2017-10-23T19:41:22.293" UserId="8709" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16590" PostId="7933" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking - I'm not so sure I agree.  Size and weight can be an advantage to one who has it, but that is not reason to think 10-15 year olds who don't have it are completely unable to defend themselves.  Some 15 year olds are huge, anyway.  Running can be an option, agreed.  So can using a gun.  But I would not shy away from training a 10-15 year old using martial arts - including guns - so long as they understand that they always need to consider running as an option.  I teach adults this same concept." CreationDate="2017-10-23T19:48:22.603" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16591" PostId="7933" Score="2" Text="I do not disagree: Children and Teens can and should be taught martial arts and (all) aspects of self-defense. I just wanted to point out that being a good martial artist at this (or any other, really) age does by no means mean that one is able to defend oneself against an aggressive, bigger person. Since it is the standard case that they are smaller in that age, it is fallacious to assume self-defense capabilities because of, even good, martial arts training. There are other important advantages and skills you learn there, too, though (strength, awareness, presence, etc.)." CreationDate="2017-10-23T20:16:16.077" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16592" PostId="7934" Score="0" Text="Thank you for your response. Yes, a definitive resource does seem hard to come by... The article you mention is now a part of my research." CreationDate="2017-10-23T21:15:47.350" UserId="7401" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16593" PostId="7926" Score="0" Text="I believe elaborating on the third paragraph’s last sentence: ‘… using your wisdom mind …’; I believe I understand what you mean, but it needs further explanation. In your last paragraph, you enter into an explanation of how mental illnesses is viewed in martial arts, i.e. in this context Buddhism and Daoism. With further precision as to which school of thoughts are relevant and how it can help shape the mind’s pattern of thoughts, this could be a great answer, particularly when considering your first paragraph." CreationDate="2017-10-23T22:32:14.233" UserId="8041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16594" PostId="7933" Score="4" Text="A fight they've run away from, is a fight they've won, because... they survived.  The fight they _could_ have had, no longer mattered, not even one bit." CreationDate="2017-10-24T02:17:06.930" UserId="7401" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16595" PostId="7935" Score="2" Text="Why not judo? Or karate when it comes to it? Or any kung-fu without the wrist locking chin na. Or wrestling? Or boxing. (this answer seems biased there are good reasons why some of the above are not suitable but you should explain these to be clear)" CreationDate="2017-10-24T11:52:18.430" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16596" PostId="7935" Score="1" Text="@HuwEvans The OP tagged the question with Krav Maga and Ju Jutsu, which compelled me to answer from my Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu experience.  My answer describes why.  I'm definitely biased, given that I cannot speak for all fighting styles – I have not practiced, studied, or experienced all of them. However, I've tried to follow a bit of your suggestion, to clarify my answer a little further as to why we chose BJJ." CreationDate="2017-10-24T12:33:47.140" UserId="7401" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16597" PostId="7935" Score="1" Text="@HuwEvans He doesn't have to explain &quot;why not&quot; every other MA in existence... This is a solid answer." CreationDate="2017-10-24T14:06:47.177" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16599" PostId="7932" Score="0" Text="It may seem a useful tip, but it may not be true. Claims like that need to be provided as an answer with sources to back it up." CreationDate="2017-10-24T14:13:24.227" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16600" PostId="7935" Score="1" Text="It's just like an advert. If I gave an answer talking about my local club which teaches 5 year olds would that be a good answer? If so we would have two conflicting 'good answers' which is exactly what we don't want." CreationDate="2017-10-24T15:35:02.517" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16601" PostId="7926" Score="0" Text="@CannedMan I've added an example of how the intent is used. I'm not sure I can be helpful in navigating the schools of thought in Buddhism and Daoism. You have to practice (meditate, whether sitting, moving, forms training, etc.), which is the default martial mindset but not necessarily the cultural Buddhist or Daoist one." CreationDate="2017-10-24T15:58:30.680" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16602" PostId="7935" Score="0" Text="@HuwEvans Answers should be illustrative regarding the styles tagged by the OP. To close the loop, I will further clarify why I felt Krav Maga was not desirable for us. Regarding the suggestion that this is an ad for a particular club, please observe that I've suggested _two_ schools that have very different takes on Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. The curriculum details are secondary evidence to support my answer.  Perhaps the problem isn't the answer, but rather, the question. [Is it off-topic, too broad, or eliciting opinion-based answers?](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic) Maybe." CreationDate="2017-10-24T16:13:03.833" UserId="7401" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16603" PostId="7935" Score="1" Text="I agree. The problem is the question. But I could equally explain that krav maga is more useful as children are small and a striking art is more useful than grappling against stronger attackers. It's not a question that can be answered I think it should be closed." CreationDate="2017-10-24T16:38:47.233" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16604" PostId="7935" Score="0" Text="@HuwEvans I would encourage you to answer. The OP is asking about Krav Maga as well." CreationDate="2017-10-24T17:26:06.993" UserId="7401" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16605" PostId="7932" Score="2" Text="https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/4267/are-aikido-joint-locks-harmful-to-children" CreationDate="2017-10-24T17:26:37.623" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16606" PostId="7928" Score="1" Text="@johnp Part of the problem is the karatebyjesse source only appears as a comment in the previous question. Apparently it was left as an (unfinished) exercise to that asker to write a proper answer citing it." CreationDate="2017-10-24T17:41:50.627" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16607" PostId="4268" Score="0" Text="@Bankuei - Admittedly it has been a long time since my kinesiology degree, but tendons connect muscle to bone and ligaments connect bone to bone. I am aware of the destabilizing effect of stretching *ligaments*, but was not aware of the same effect in tendons? In addition, all your links are either broken or lead to infected sites." CreationDate="2017-10-24T22:39:19.063" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16608" PostId="4268" Score="0" Text="In addition, the linked question has an answer from a martial artist and ex therapist noting the damage to ligaments as well." CreationDate="2017-10-24T22:41:26.820" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16612" PostId="7928" Score="0" Text="@JohnP Is it fair to ask that the duplicate flag be removed? Have I researched and distinguished this Q &amp; A as uniquely qualified to stand on its own?" CreationDate="2017-10-26T16:49:00.723" UserId="7401" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16613" PostId="7928" Score="0" Text="@jacefarm - I can remove the comment, but the 4 votes to close would remain anyway. Those are cast by members of the community, it would be up to them to retract the votes." CreationDate="2017-10-26T17:05:02.207" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16614" PostId="7928" Score="1" Text="@JohnP 4 votes to close, and down-votes on both the Q &amp; A... Sheesh.  Tough crowd..." CreationDate="2017-10-26T17:11:11.943" UserId="7401" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16616" PostId="7928" Score="0" Text="@jacefarm If you have a problem with down and close votes, you should open a meta question about this. I would be happy to tell you why I think both your question and answer are lacking there." CreationDate="2017-10-27T08:26:24.623" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16617" PostId="7928" Score="0" Text="@JohnP Just because a question has no good answer should bear no relation whatsoever as to whether this question is or is not a duplicate." CreationDate="2017-10-27T10:23:26.380" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16618" PostId="7937" Score="1" Text="Although it is objectively always an option, I wouldn't suggest quitting martial arts. Because martial arts is cool." CreationDate="2017-10-27T11:01:31.053" UserId="6654" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16619" PostId="7934" Score="1" Text="Wigwam - Since links decay, could you summarize the pertinent points here?" CreationDate="2017-10-27T14:15:32.907" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16620" PostId="7928" Score="1" Text="I will edit based on this [discussion in Meta](https://martialarts.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/527/why-do-flags-for-this-similar-yet-different-question-persist). Oss!" CreationDate="2017-10-27T15:38:31.210" UserId="7401" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16621" PostId="7936" Score="1" Text="I will edit based on this [discussion in Meta](https://martialarts.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/527/why-do-flags-for-this-similar-yet-different-question-persist). Oss!" CreationDate="2017-10-27T15:38:48.527" UserId="7401" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16622" PostId="2729" Score="0" Text="@jacefarm Why did you edit this obviously bad question?…" CreationDate="2017-10-30T14:08:31.343" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16623" PostId="2729" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion It is still a matter of record and part of this forum - tidying up. See [&quot;Is closure the end of the road for a question?&quot; and &quot;When are closed questions eligible for deletion?&quot;](https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/10583/271738). If it is to die, maybe it should then be deleted, yes?" CreationDate="2017-10-30T14:14:36.663" UserId="7401" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16624" PostId="2729" Score="1" Text="@jacefarm Your edit did nothing to improve the question: it is still off topic and in my not so humble opinion unsalvageable. We need more good questions, not pointless cosmetic changes to bad one. That said, I do appreciate your keenness. 'Nuff said." CreationDate="2017-10-30T14:29:19.037" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16625" PostId="2729" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion My edits **have improved** the post ([grammar, spelling, fix minor mistakes as the post ages](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help/privileges/edit)). Curation is a worthwhile agenda, and is encouraged in all SE forums, including this one. It is an intention that reflects upon forum quality, is freely given by the community, and should be nurtured, not disparaged. It's been a while, but perhaps the OP would be nudged, might improve, or request that the question be opened. If unsalvageable, then it should be deleted, and our time would not have been wasted thus..." CreationDate="2017-10-30T15:05:55.397" UserId="7401" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16627" PostId="7928" Score="0" Text="I am in favor of this question being deleted as unsalvageable in favor of a [new and improved question](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/7939/why-should-oss-be-used-in-brazilian-jiu-jitsu) inspired by this [discussion on Meta](https://martialarts.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/527/why-do-flags-for-this-similar-yet-different-question-persist)." CreationDate="2017-10-31T02:12:05.307" UserId="7401" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16628" PostId="7939" Score="4" Text="+1. Lots of research clearly done which might be better added to an answer iff none is forthcoming." CreationDate="2017-10-31T08:14:20.313" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16629" PostId="4267" Score="1" Text="@ jacefarm I rejected your edit on the simple basis that *we are not a forum*. We are a Q&amp;A site. It might seem trivial but is actually a really important distinction to make." CreationDate="2017-11-01T08:53:48.487" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16630" PostId="7939" Score="0" Text="It's impossible to say if it &quot;should&quot; be used. Every gym is different. I'm a Pedro Sauer affiliate, and we don't use it. This highlights one of the great things about BJJ; there is no governing body. All gyms may do as they please." CreationDate="2017-11-01T13:57:48.543" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16632" PostId="7940" Score="1" Text="Regarding ice, see [this answer about ice delaying recovery](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/5297/5961)" CreationDate="2017-11-01T16:10:49.437" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16633" PostId="4267" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion [The reject is fine](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/5100), your call, but editing is a highly encouraged activity across the StackExchange spectrum.&#xA; Here's the [FAQ reference](https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/7931/faq-for-stack-exchange-sites) and a [Q &amp; A on editing etiquette](https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/11474/what-is-the-etiquette-for-modifying-posts?noredirect=1&amp;lq=1)." CreationDate="2017-11-01T20:04:22.913" UserId="7401" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16634" PostId="5989" Score="0" Text="Just as an N=1, I cracked shin to shin sparring in a tournament. Large (3&quot;x2&quot;x1&quot; high) lump emerged within a couple minutes. I used arnica, and while the swelling went down, I now have a 7&quot; wide, 12&quot; long bruise on the front of the lower leg, with purple pooling in the ankle." CreationDate="2017-11-01T20:55:28.607" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16635" PostId="7489" Score="1" Text="Since you have such a fail, perhaps it would better if you deleted your answer completely? I've taken the liberty of editing it to make the &quot;FAIL&quot; portion more noticeable." CreationDate="2017-11-01T21:01:35.747" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16636" PostId="4267" Score="0" Text="@jacefarm Thank you for reminding me of how stack works⸮ Now, please go re-read what I have written and let me paraphrase it again: the only reason I rejected your edit was because you called stack a forum. **We are not a forum. We are a Question &amp; Answer site.** The difference is important." CreationDate="2017-11-02T08:14:40.973" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16637" PostId="4267" Score="0" Text="@jacefarm Clearly, I do appreciate the time you spend correcting some of my fantastic (aka from fantasy) spelling and grammar." CreationDate="2017-11-02T08:50:11.977" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16638" PostId="7091" Score="0" Text="As a side note, I've learned that leaning it up in a corner is a bad idea. My wife swears that it just fell on its own, but I have my doubts..." CreationDate="2017-11-02T13:07:06.837" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16639" PostId="7938" Score="1" Text="Bounty was awarded. Many thanks indeed for taking the time to answer the question." CreationDate="2017-11-06T08:40:20.770" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16640" PostId="7942" Score="3" Text="I am failing to see how this answers the question. What is the point of your answer?" CreationDate="2017-11-06T10:08:30.150" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16641" PostId="7938" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion - Thank you for your kind words!" CreationDate="2017-11-06T16:25:44.453" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16642" PostId="7937" Score="0" Text="Yes, exhaust all options before assessing option #4..." CreationDate="2017-11-06T21:03:07.543" UserId="8713" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16643" PostId="4381" Score="0" Text="I can't disagree with this more. MMA requires one to be technically perfect. That's the point. The more technical fighter will beat the bigger/stronger/faster fighter EVERY TIME." CreationDate="2017-11-07T21:17:42.100" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16644" PostId="7684" Score="2" Text="When I'm in a teaching or senior role I often say &quot;that is an effective/useful/whatever technique or move, but NOT what we are studying now&quot;. Or &quot;yeah, that works but it's not what we are practicing&quot;." CreationDate="2017-11-08T19:26:17.637" UserId="6460" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16645" PostId="7947" Score="0" Text="I am afraid that this does not answer the question." CreationDate="2017-11-09T08:15:14.507" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16646" PostId="7901" Score="1" Text="Frisco's answer is comprehensive accurate.  The only thing I'd add is that Tai Chi practitioners often prefer the moniker &quot;player&quot; as in &quot;Tai Chi player&quot; to emphasize the non-combative nature of push hands practice (i.e. it's a combat art, but the goal of push hands is not to dominate the partner so much as improve one's technique while providing the same benefit to the partner.)" CreationDate="2017-11-09T21:41:45.340" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16647" PostId="7901" Score="0" Text="There is also a traditional distinction between &quot;indoor&quot; and &quot;outdoor&quot; students.  (The former are disciples and taught the more esoteric aspects, as opposed to the more casual &quot;outdoor students&quot;.)  [You can read a little bit about the tradition here](http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/are-you-a-martial-arts-insider-or-outsider/).  入室弟子 (Yup Sut Dai Dzi) &quot;Indoor Disciple&quot;" CreationDate="2017-11-09T21:45:39.083" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16648" PostId="7949" Score="2" Text="For informational purposes, the romanization of the relationships in this answer is for Cantonese, not Mandarin. Also, it's an excellent point that the relationship will normally dictate how you address another practitioner; this does not translate well culturally into English." CreationDate="2017-11-09T22:27:15.193" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16649" PostId="7949" Score="0" Text="@mattm thanks for making the point about Cantonese/Mandarin. *(I wasn't too worried about dialect for this--there are so many! :)*" CreationDate="2017-11-09T22:31:00.407" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16650" PostId="7948" Score="6" Text="I think the point is just that, anything can be used, but it isn't necessarily practiced.  A board game is by nature a game on a board and not a weapon.  Just because something &quot;can&quot; be used as a weapon doesn't mean it should be incorporated as a style and taught.  Jackie Chan is a movie actor and in the movies it looks cool to use odd things as weapons.  That isn't the same as real life, and what you suggest is highly impractical to practice much less teach.  If you are a chess master and play all the time then maybe..." CreationDate="2017-11-10T04:12:32.917" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16651" PostId="7902" Score="1" Text="@wigwam - My judo sensei recently told us that &quot;judoka&quot; also used to described an advanced practitioner of judo or something to that effect (not necessarily a master, but at least someone that really knows his stuff). Somewhere down the line, the western world adopted the term for every practitioner and the Japanese grudgingly followed suit. I have no source for it other than his word, however." CreationDate="2017-11-10T06:52:10.843" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16652" PostId="4383" Score="0" Text="I agree with the last point. I was in a MMA gym for a while, mostly doing the standup practice. Then my first grappling lesson I was up against someone that did the arm bar too fast and I couldn't use my right arm properly for a few weeks. I still hear it pop when I extend it..." CreationDate="2017-11-10T12:06:43.887" UserId="6869" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16653" PostId="7948" Score="4" Text="Not relevant to Martial Arts..." CreationDate="2017-11-10T14:39:00.250" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16654" PostId="7948" Score="0" Text="@mutt absolutely.  I'd just make a comment that the child opera training of Jackie Chan firmly rooted in the real arts, (His teacher [Yu Jim-yuen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yu_Jim-yuen) was the real deal) even though the requirements of choreography are different from actual combat. And of course, as my old teacher used to say, the practice is important, but if someone attacks you, pick up a brick and hit them in the head.  And, of course, we live in the age of the gun so the function of martial arts in the contemporary landscape is different from the pre-gun era." CreationDate="2017-11-10T23:36:21.657" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16658" PostId="4383" Score="0" Text="&quot;That said, one concern I've seen with a lot of MMA schools is you have to be careful about their injury rates.&quot; +1 just for this. As somebody who dislocated his knee at a less than reputable mma gym this part is important. Accidents can and will happen at even the best schools but the good ones will minimize this by teaching their students how to perform the drills safely without seriously injuring themselves or their training partners." CreationDate="2017-11-13T15:29:54.660" UserId="8717" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16665" PostId="7958" Score="2" Text="For this to be a good answer, you would need to justify your claims." CreationDate="2017-11-21T08:06:08.287" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16666" PostId="7957" Score="1" Text="Actually, I was referred to this guy by my teacher! Anyway, thanks for the comprehensive links. Yet, could you please answer briefly my core question? Do we bind with a strike to the opponent or before that?" CreationDate="2017-11-21T12:17:47.107" UserId="485" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16667" PostId="7957" Score="0" Text="Website links and Youtube videos sometimes vanish. Can you summarize the material?" CreationDate="2017-11-21T13:49:54.020" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16668" PostId="5742" Score="0" Text="This was one of the most informative articles I’ve read on the yet. I’m very happy with everything that I’ve read; it’s given me a lot to think about. It was especially helpful due to the info on women (&amp; smaller-weaker part! lol) I’m over 50 but I’m in good shape thank, due to weight training, now I know what I need to do prior to finding a class. Thank you so much" CreationDate="2017-11-19T21:37:50.283" UserId="8764" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16669" PostId="7957" Score="0" Text="@MiroslavVitkov  The answer is that it all depends on circumstance and opportunity. Against an opponent similarly trained in working from the bind, one might simultaneously initiate a blade bind once they have closed to measure.  Against an opponent fighting from a more aggressive and percussive manner, one might enter the bind from a covering blow. The downside to initiating a covering blow is that to be within measure for the blow, one must necessarily be closer than the required measure for an opposing thrust." CreationDate="2017-11-21T16:01:31.437" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16670" PostId="7958" Score="0" Text="Disparaging lots of martial arts does not improve the question. All original claims and most, if not all, of the added ones are still unsupported by any evidence whatsoever." CreationDate="2017-11-21T16:03:16.507" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16671" PostId="7957" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan  There is frankly too much material to be easily summarized here.  That is why I linked Roland's HEMA website and his YouTube channel homepage. If those become unavailable then something seriously bad has happened to the body of his shared HEMA work." CreationDate="2017-11-21T16:04:11.957" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16672" PostId="7958" Score="0" Text="Of course it does because they are all options for OP. I also explained why Brazilian Jiu Jitsu benefits smaller/skinnier opponents. No need to write a whole book to answer the question." CreationDate="2017-11-21T16:27:56.940" UserId="8767" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16673" PostId="7958" Score="0" Text="If you need evidence just look at some of the greatest grapplers/fighters in the world that use Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.  Marcelo Garcia, Nate Diaz, Shinya Aoki, Jake Shields, Kyra Gracie, Royce Gracie are all very small and or skinny yet are high ranked players." CreationDate="2017-11-21T16:32:16.310" UserId="8767" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16674" PostId="4965" Score="0" Text="You've been out of it for 10 years." CreationDate="2017-11-22T06:59:35.387" UserId="6460" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16675" PostId="7958" Score="0" Text="All your examples but Kyra Gracie are men and thus are hardly good evidence of women's prowess. Whether you take on my criticism or not is up to you. I am just trying to tell you how to make your answer better. 'Nuff said." CreationDate="2017-11-22T09:21:43.437" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16685" PostId="7962" Score="0" Text="We are not a forum but a Q&amp;A site. Visit the [help] for more information." CreationDate="2017-11-27T13:40:05.880" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16686" PostId="7962" Score="1" Text="Pay attention to the sections on NNSD linked below about carrying weapons." CreationDate="2017-11-27T14:25:35.243" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16687" PostId="7960" Score="0" Text="Are you actually asking for people to have verifiable records of Japanese organized criminals using a specific knife technique in a noteworthy and widespread manner?  The Japanese are known for being pertinacious record keepers, but I think this is ultimately asking for wild speculation." CreationDate="2017-11-27T15:06:29.710" UserId="6178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16688" PostId="7960" Score="1" Text="The attack is weird. The justification for said attack always is &quot;yakuza do it&quot;. I want evidence, not hear say. Question edited." CreationDate="2017-11-27T15:12:09.460" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16689" PostId="7965" Score="0" Text="I can't say this isn't something I've contemplated from time to time when someone has borrowed my phone. My mind usually turns toward somewhat more violent methods if they decide to break and run, such as directing a quick low kick to the knee or thigh. You would probably be better off with using a disarm technique to get the phone back (although, fair warning, there's a good chance it will wind up on the ground, not in your hand). And, of course, there's psychology if they look like they're about to bolt by forcing them into a confrontation." CreationDate="2017-11-27T16:16:32.067" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16690" PostId="7965" Score="0" Text="The thing is, I don't have any practical experience to work from, just hypotheticals. And ultimately, it sounds like your issue was less that you didn't know of a technique to use and more that you felt you couldn't or shouldn't act or resist due to your &quot;helpful character&quot;." CreationDate="2017-11-27T16:16:47.940" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16691" PostId="7964" Score="0" Text="My Escrima teacher generally told us to never carry a weapon, but to learn how to use those weapons, because otherwise all that will happen is you disarm the opponent and they pick it back up again." CreationDate="2017-11-27T16:26:49.377" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16692" PostId="7960" Score="2" Text="I have no answer, but I'm interested in one if found." CreationDate="2017-11-27T16:29:18.600" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16693" PostId="7965" Score="0" Text="One thing to consider is whether your phone is worth as much as your life. A thief who wants to take your phone may be able to gain it through words (as in your example), but failing that they may use threats. If they pull out a knife, would you give it over and then try to get it back?" CreationDate="2017-11-27T17:49:26.563" UserId="7900" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16694" PostId="7962" Score="0" Text="Usually this type of question gets asked by beginners with no experience. Having the benefit of substantial experience, you should have some idea of what can be accomplished with effort and time. Your goals are the type that do not have shortcuts, and definitely are not learnable on your own." CreationDate="2017-11-28T03:59:40.077" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16695" PostId="7965" Score="0" Text="Learn wrestling. Learn BJJ. There is no single magical technique to solve this hypothetical." CreationDate="2017-11-28T14:50:51.283" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16697" PostId="127" Score="0" Text="In my personal experience it's not the weightlifting that makes you slower, but the lack of stretching most weightlifters do. If you don't have any flexibility you are fighting/slowing yourself on every movement. I've trained fastest after a hot yoga class limbers me up." CreationDate="2017-11-28T15:53:21.447" UserId="8788" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16698" PostId="7967" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the answers. Actually, the thief apparently wasn't armed, and it was in broad daylight. So much for me being nice and helpful now. This is a precursor to learning martial arts, carrying pepper spray and tazer, and never giving any stranger any of my posessions." CreationDate="2017-11-28T17:07:06.593" UserId="8781" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16699" PostId="7967" Score="1" Text="The confidence trickster was not armed *that you could see*. They could have been, just never showing that they were to you. Carrying potentially lethal weapons has many judiciary reprecutions: **Go talk to a lawyers *FIRST***!!!" CreationDate="2017-11-29T10:15:53.277" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16700" PostId="7961" Score="0" Text="This isn't really an answer, and do you have any evidence that stronger means slower? Other than bro-science?" CreationDate="2017-11-29T14:20:23.067" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16703" PostId="7970" Score="1" Text="Aikido has been proven in fights (both in law enforcement and the prison service) and on the battle field. The later has a nice example from an ex-student of mine who used what I thought them in Iraq." CreationDate="2017-11-30T11:28:43.353" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16704" PostId="7969" Score="0" Text="I found these videos to be helpful and simple: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGoeqwH_nKc) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxECIaD-OwU&amp;feature=share)" CreationDate="2017-11-30T11:40:53.920" UserId="8800" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16705" PostId="7970" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion Not really looking to get into an argument in the comments, so I'll keep it short. There's a reason you don't see Aikido in old school no rules fights, or modern MMA. It's like saying Capoeira is as effective as Muay Thai kickboxing in a fight. It's just flat out false. Random anecdotal evidence is not enough to advise someone to try a martial art for use in self defense. That's irresponsible and someone could get hurt." CreationDate="2017-11-30T15:18:43.077" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16706" PostId="7223" Score="0" Text="Mr Steve Weigand- I found out a few possibilities for the number 52 after further research (on something else) this fall: 1. The Imjin War began in 1592, so the number may have been drawn from that date (like Kwang Gae with 39). 2. In 1952, what is now called TKD was presented to President Synghman Rhee and he ordered it to be taught to the ROK military. 3. Also in 1952, General Choi was appointed chief of staff of the First Corps, Army ROK. I haven't been quizzed on this stuff lately- when I get a definitive answer I will post it." CreationDate="2017-11-30T19:58:44.393" UserId="7936" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16708" PostId="7970" Score="0" Text="We are arguing at cross purpose here." CreationDate="2017-12-01T08:51:25.903" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16711" PostId="7973" Score="0" Text="I personally feel that Aikido is a more subtle and advanced martial art, that would fill more of a &quot;supporting&quot; role in a person's self-defense arsenal. For entry-level self-defense that aims to teach solid technique as a base, I feel it's not suitable. Boxing is known to be a great striking art as a base, Judo is known to be a great throwing art as a base, but Aikido (from talking to people who practice it) is more about a mindset than physically teaching technique. For time efficiency, I am planning to avoid it. If I had unlimited free time, I'd learn every art, but I need to be realistic." CreationDate="2017-12-01T11:08:28.370" UserId="8800" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16712" PostId="7973" Score="0" Text="I suppose everyone is free to hold whatever opinion they wish to have…" CreationDate="2017-12-01T11:11:17.960" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16713" PostId="7971" Score="0" Text="I like that you addressed his stated goal of not harming the aggressor in the process of the technique. Although, given he's asking specifically about techniques, could you suggest some that are less likely to injure the other person?" CreationDate="2017-12-01T16:12:51.840" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16714" PostId="7973" Score="1" Text="I will probably always remember my Aikido teacher for emphasizing that one of the main benefits of Aikido as an art is that it's good for dealing with drunk Uncle Bob without hurting your family reputation by injuring him." CreationDate="2017-12-01T16:14:00.450" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16715" PostId="7971" Score="0" Text="I like the take on Judo. Gotta disagree with your take on wrestling though. Technical ability is extremely important, it's not just some brute force martial art. If anything, power is the least important of the &quot;big 3&quot; skills in wrestling: technique &gt; speed &gt; power. In my opinion it has the steepest learning curve of all grappling martial arts due to the technical knowledge needed." CreationDate="2017-12-01T17:11:58.950" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16716" PostId="7974" Score="0" Text="Your judo safety concerns on non-mat surfaces are misplaced. Slapping the ground will sting and scrape, but will not break your arm. Extending an arm to brace against a fall will break your arm/wrist, which many untrained people do. Not slapping will not give you concussions or spinal injuries. Hitting your head on the ground will. The significantly elevated risk in &quot;street&quot; situations is landing on hard, uneven ground, which drastically reduces margin for error. You can execute falls with normal slapping without major injury on flat concrete, but falling across a curb will not go well." CreationDate="2017-12-01T19:22:17.887" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16717" PostId="7971" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan It's not worth enumerating techniques. The vast majority of judo throws and wrestling takedowns can be &quot;relatively safe&quot; if you understand how to control them. It's easier to enumerate those that you should avoid like suplex (ura nage) or yoko gake." CreationDate="2017-12-01T19:37:34.447" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16718" PostId="7974" Score="0" Text="That's what my judo instructor taught. I've been shaken myself from falls even with slapping the mat. It depends on the throw though obviously." CreationDate="2017-12-01T20:10:59.533" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16719" PostId="7974" Score="0" Text="Though if you can show me a video of a judo throw on concrete that doesn't result in injury I will edit the above." CreationDate="2017-12-01T20:12:49.863" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16720" PostId="7974" Score="0" Text="[Ukemi demonstration](https://youtu.be/LQrk192dkRI?t=50s) and [noncompliant](https://youtu.be/sPCFGz9oFMA?t=33s)" CreationDate="2017-12-02T03:48:33.670" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16721" PostId="7974" Score="0" Text="OK yes, not a seo nage but the hip throw appears safe enough. Will edit." CreationDate="2017-12-02T09:35:39.037" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16722" PostId="7974" Score="0" Text="Nitpick on Karate: Proper Okinawan Karate is based on local styles and Chinese MAs. They had grappling in their system all the time (and their own native style of wrestling people were supposed to know from childhood). It developed alongside Ju Jutsu, not from it. What you seem to be talking about is the bunkai that has been shoehorned by people to kata, imagining what it could mean from their knowledge of Ju Jutsu. Bears the risk of not being realistic from what I've seen in videos so far." CreationDate="2017-12-02T16:51:18.773" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16724" PostId="7426" Score="1" Text="My hand positioning preference is completely opposite to yours despite being right-handed, so I'm not certain that your theory holds true. :-D" CreationDate="2017-12-04T20:57:43.553" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16726" PostId="7444" Score="0" Text="I've trained in a chow gar / 7 star mixed school for a few years, and to be truthful we never used the Cantonese names for techniques.  When I googled Pai Kui, it's the 4th form in the Chow Gar system. Not sure what exactly is meant by 'cutting palm' (I could think of several things that could be it).  Forget about learning it without a teacher.  There are also a number of 'secret' techniques that you'll never see on the internet (or at least you shouldn't)" CreationDate="2017-12-05T19:20:35.770" UserId="6636" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16727" PostId="7978" Score="0" Text="not much I can add to this answer.  I just wanted to note that in these styles working with a partner is also important so you can feel the different kinds of energies and learn to respond appropriately. i.e. collapsing bridge techniques, jamming, parrying, trapping..." CreationDate="2017-12-05T19:33:05.360" UserId="6636" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16728" PostId="7979" Score="4" Text="Please see the [help] to see how we work. We are not a forum but a Q&amp;A site. As such, this answer does not answer the question but is just suppositions. This is something that is generally frowned upon and attracts down votes." CreationDate="2017-12-06T08:38:58.957" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16729" PostId="7978" Score="0" Text="Could you move this answer to the [older question](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/3129/solo-martial-art-learning)?" CreationDate="2017-12-06T09:54:48.907" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16730" PostId="7981" Score="0" Text="The closest I can find is waza - &quot;technique&quot; - http://www.traditional-karate.com/karate/terms.html#Kerikata" CreationDate="2017-12-06T20:24:26.530" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16731" PostId="7981" Score="0" Text="I found that, but I don't think that's it." CreationDate="2017-12-06T20:54:05.543" UserId="8909" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16732" PostId="7981" Score="0" Text="I don't either, that's just about the only non technique W I could find. and nothing specifically about retraction/recovery." CreationDate="2017-12-06T20:57:05.393" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16733" PostId="7981" Score="0" Text="Either way, thank you, this list of terms might be useful." CreationDate="2017-12-06T20:59:56.623" UserId="8909" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16734" PostId="7981" Score="0" Text="You might get an answer on [japanse.se](https://japanese.stackexchange.com/)…" CreationDate="2017-12-07T08:12:11.387" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16735" PostId="7978" Score="0" Text="My comment does not apply to that older post." CreationDate="2017-12-08T12:14:15.397" UserId="8800" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16744" PostId="1124" Score="0" Text="In a book in beijing bookstore on wangfujing rd there is a photo of empereror puyi practiceing kung fu." CreationDate="2017-12-08T11:54:38.890" UserId="8911" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16745" PostId="7489" Score="0" Text="Sorry, the only part of this that was a fail was cycling too hard (and I mean really hard, drafting a truck at about 50kmh). My leg got better quite quickly." CreationDate="2017-12-11T01:31:10.773" UserId="8226" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16748" PostId="7986" Score="1" Text="Why would a boxing gym teach techniques for weapons or street situations?  Boxing is a combat **sport.**  Their techniques are sport-specific. You should never have a knife pulled on you in the ring during a boxing match, and if you do, the referee should intervene appropriately." CreationDate="2017-12-11T22:03:30.317" UserId="7553" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16749" PostId="7986" Score="0" Text="@polo you completely missed my point which was that “the boxing gym has more activate participants” rather than “the boxing gym should have weapons involved.” No where in my post did I say directly or even imply that a boxing gym “ought to” have weapons training. I simply stated that it did not in comparison with Krav Maga. Which is a fact that you just backed up even." CreationDate="2017-12-11T22:07:36.170" UserId="8912" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16750" PostId="7986" Score="1" Text="Again,  you are comparing a sport, which has many training and competition features built for safety, first, with a martial art, with a variety of techniques where, if some newbie thinks that going &quot;hard&quot; is somehow important, can badly injure their training partner. It's because of that &quot;real life&quot; applicability that you have to enter into each new technique with much more care.  That's true of any martial art where you learn techniques that can maim or kill. There's really very little comparison between the two. The problem is not your partners." CreationDate="2017-12-11T22:12:21.433" UserId="7553" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16751" PostId="7986" Score="0" Text="@PoloHoleSet Oh ok I get where you’re coming from now. So you’re saying that is also a reason why the aggressiveness is toned down versus in boxing." CreationDate="2017-12-11T22:14:17.890" UserId="8912" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16753" PostId="7991" Score="2" Text="Welcome to the site. Please check out the [help] to see how we work. Sadly, this is very much a medical advise question which are off topic since we are martial arts experts and not medical doctors. *You should consult your physician and direct all question at them.* Do **not** trust strangers on the Internet (no matter how many fake points they have) with your health." CreationDate="2017-12-12T10:15:36.113" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16754" PostId="7991" Score="2" Text="If you were to edit your question so that it was asking about tae-kwon-do specific exercises to avoid this type of injury, that would be a fine question." CreationDate="2017-12-12T10:16:57.603" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16761" PostId="7991" Score="0" Text="[Off to meta!…](https://martialarts.meta.stackexchange.com/q/530/82)" CreationDate="2017-12-12T12:25:17.260" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16762" PostId="7994" Score="1" Text="I'd add, that while visualization exercises aren't nearly as useful as some trainers sell them to be, if you have a decent imagination, visualizing yourself going through movements can be useful to keep yourself from getting rusty. Sure, it doesn't help much with muscle tone, but it helps keep fresh all of those little tweaks that you've learned that aren't in the textbook." CreationDate="2017-12-12T16:34:41.170" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16764" PostId="7995" Score="0" Text="Thanks for your edits, but that's not what I meant, although I didn't go a good job with the first version.  I edited." CreationDate="2017-12-13T09:27:01.933" UserId="8922" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16767" PostId="7988" Score="0" Text="Poorly said, but it's true. An MMA gym is the best place for hard sparring. Everyone is there expecting the same thing." CreationDate="2017-12-13T15:44:10.500" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16768" PostId="7997" Score="0" Text="Thank you, your answer illustrates yet another point: that Judo is a sport, where one cares how exactly the Uke lands.  And, yes, by &quot;planting&quot; I meant exactly what you said: arranging for the Uke's mass to hit the ground simultaneously.  In JJ, the objective is different, and the kata--pure technique--is taught before everything else (shime, atemi).  BTW, I didn't object to applying force in principle.  My question was about helping gravity with force." CreationDate="2017-12-13T16:24:00.703" UserId="8922" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16769" PostId="7995" Score="3" Text="I think question is fundamentally about how the throwing style of judo differs from jujutsu, which should be fine. The way this question is asked, however, sounds more like, &quot;why don't barbarian judoka throw  like civilized jujutsu practitioners?&quot;" CreationDate="2017-12-13T21:52:07.993" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16770" PostId="7995" Score="2" Text="It's also not clear why pounding is opposed to technique and flow. There are many throws where uke falls only with gravity that result in a hard (pounding?) fall. For example: tai otoshi, yoko gake, okuri ashi harai" CreationDate="2017-12-13T21:59:16.993" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16771" PostId="7997" Score="2" Text="@avs: You can get a good grasp of the technical principles of Judo by reading [Kenji Tomiki's thoughts](https://judoinfo.com/tomiki/) on that matter. Using unnecessary force is part of Judo competition because of the nature of competition, but should not be used in training that does not focus on competition." CreationDate="2017-12-14T11:24:54.937" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16772" PostId="7091" Score="0" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because this is not relevant to martial arts." CreationDate="2017-12-14T15:22:03.693" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16773" PostId="7091" Score="2" Text="@coinbird Music is an essential part of Capoeira, and the berimbau is the primary instrument played during the sparring, but I respect your opinion." CreationDate="2017-12-14T15:23:54.697" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16774" PostId="7091" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan No need to respect my opinion, I may be flat out wrong here. I suppose the definition of martial arts is more broad than I'd like. Allowing this would seem to invite questions about ballet, and care for the pianos playing ballet music." CreationDate="2017-12-14T15:47:21.553" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16775" PostId="7091" Score="0" Text="@coinbird: :-D Combat ballet?" CreationDate="2017-12-14T15:56:35.340" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16776" PostId="7091" Score="0" Text="While I'm normally aggressive on scope, I feel that questions on maintenance and care of martial arts equipment is in scope, and I'm willing to accept that the berimbau is part of that equipment.  I agree that it is .. odd... but we get so few questions on MA:SE that it seems we can err on the side of inclusivity." CreationDate="2017-12-14T15:57:36.053" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16777" PostId="7999" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site. Good first answer." CreationDate="2017-12-14T16:12:09.917" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16778" PostId="7236" Score="0" Text="Well said. Striking with the shin is the #1 most important thing. Your foot is fragile and made up of many bones. Your shin is pretty much a baseball bat. Open up your hip and step into your kicks more so you're deep enough to strike with your shin." CreationDate="2017-12-15T16:33:42.910" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16779" PostId="8000" Score="3" Text="Speaking from personal experience, learning any sword style from the internet is a bad idea, however difficult it may be to find a real life coach." CreationDate="2017-12-16T14:48:23.967" UserId="8392" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16780" PostId="8001" Score="1" Text="I'm curious if there's anything resembling an authoritative answer.  I have come up with perhaps a half dozen theories of my own, but none of them have any serious backing in historical text." CreationDate="2017-12-18T02:05:47.257" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16781" PostId="7987" Score="1" Text="+1.  I love the comment about how &quot;wimpy&quot; might just be the facade before you overextend and your opponent reverses the situation on you.  It's so easy to believe that your own perceptions of strength and danger are accurate.  I also love the point &quot;when you are new, you're supposed to go easy.&quot;  I can't count the number of people who really needed to learn that lesson!" CreationDate="2017-12-18T02:09:37.543" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16785" PostId="8001" Score="0" Text="@MarkC.Wallace Thankyou for the translation! The strength and complexity behind each of the movements certainly does resemble strikes, but why strike with only two fingers?" CreationDate="2017-12-18T12:50:49.323" UserId="8392" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16791" PostId="8012" Score="0" Text="This argument has been there since ages. Different martial arts teach different techniques. I think even Jeet Kune Do teaches to punch with palm facing out since it covers a bigger area on the face of the opponent than punching with the palm facing down. I guess the accuracy and power of this technique solely depends on the user." CreationDate="2017-12-20T04:30:35.147" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16792" PostId="8012" Score="0" Text="Speed of technique vs power of technique. Plus slightly different muscle involvement in pecs/delts. But it is a very old debate. I will post more when not on mobile." CreationDate="2017-12-20T13:54:23.690" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16793" PostId="2583" Score="0" Text="How long have you been wrestling, submission grappling, and kickboxing? I ask this because anyone that has been training enough in the appropriate martial arts should already know the answer to your question. Don't get silly and try to fight someone that actually trains fighting. Hitting pads in the gym and play sparring a few times a week is not fighting." CreationDate="2017-12-20T16:05:17.327" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16794" PostId="2588" Score="1" Text="I love it when the TKD guys come to MMA sparring. Easiest takedown and submission of my life! Seriously though, without grappling experience, don't even think about MMA competition. You're going to get hurt and embarrassed. Go train!" CreationDate="2017-12-20T16:07:27.240" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16796" PostId="8012" Score="0" Text="Asked and answered here?&#xA;&#xA;https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/1649/what-are-the-advantages-of-using-a-vertical-fist-for-punching" CreationDate="2017-12-20T16:40:56.897" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16806" PostId="8019" Score="2" Text="Sources would improve this answer.  Tomiki Aikido teaches atemi waza (strikes), including a spinal dislocation, and even advises that 50% of your techniques should be atemi waza; the goshin jutsu kata includes kicks.  Both TOmiki and Yoshinkan aikido include weapons work with sword, staff and knife; I don't know whether those are &quot;homicidal&quot;, but they might be.    I'm just not sure that your answer holds up to scrutiny." CreationDate="2017-12-24T03:20:18.097" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16809" PostId="6649" Score="5" Text="That author makes a lot of the classic &quot;it's too deadly and realistic for MMA&quot; excuses that are common in ineffective martial arts. He claims there's too much circling, sizing up, and stalling in MMA. There doesn't have to be. Go do your Wing Chun blitz thing and see what happens. There's a reason why MMA fighters are intelligent and methodical about the way they fight. Because one wrong move could end the fight. Being overly aggressive in a fight (street or ring/cage) could lose you the fight." CreationDate="2017-12-28T15:56:06.807" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16810" PostId="7987" Score="1" Text="&quot;Isralis&#xA;&#xA;If you're in the US, get used to the training not being like it is in Israel. Much of what is in the US is not like what it is abroad. And what is often offered for civilians is not what is offered to soldiers and LEO.&quot;&#xA;&#xA;Most IDF infantry is not trained in hand to hand to combat. To them, Krav maga means rifle combat." CreationDate="2017-12-28T19:59:20.917" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16811" PostId="8025" Score="2" Text="Links are subject to rot. Could you describe each manual a little and add the authors/titles? Thank you." CreationDate="2017-12-29T09:41:38.917" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16813" PostId="8025" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion I am linking to lists of manuals to the best online source for them" CreationDate="2017-12-29T14:35:34.897" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16814" PostId="8025" Score="2" Text="I know what you are doing. However, links only answers are frowned upon because of link rot. If you want your answer to be a good one, please add more information in case the links go dead." CreationDate="2017-12-29T14:39:38.480" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16815" PostId="8025" Score="0" Text="Noted. I will see what I can do." CreationDate="2017-12-29T15:00:48.107" UserId="182" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16819" PostId="8027" Score="4" Text="This &quot;the real ippon seoi nage breaks the opponent's arm&quot; part used to be taught in Nage no kata with the throw being the result of uke *avoiding* his arm being broken, but this turned out to be a modern myth and is not taught by the Kodokan. Think about it: breaking the arm is more powerful and easier without throwing, and throwing when you broke the arm is much harder than you might think." CreationDate="2017-12-30T15:30:24.303" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16820" PostId="8027" Score="0" Text="If like can move that arm then the lock is not correct.  I emphasize control with the lock first and then the throw.  Uke has no choice but go over because he would already be on his tippy toes and unbalanced.  The position of ukes arm makes it that way." CreationDate="2017-12-30T16:19:47.570" UserId="8964" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16823" PostId="8032" Score="0" Text="This question shows no prior research whatsoever." CreationDate="2018-01-01T14:57:07.970" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16825" PostId="8029" Score="0" Text="For boxing, see https://sports.stackexchange.com/questions/13923/what-is-the-minimum-weight-to-box-at-a-specific-weight-class" CreationDate="2018-01-02T15:17:05.037" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16826" PostId="8031" Score="1" Text="See also [How do blood chokes actually work?](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/5897/5961)" CreationDate="2018-01-02T16:28:10.187" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16827" PostId="8034" Score="1" Text="This would be improved by a reference, otherwise it is just hear-say." CreationDate="2018-01-02T21:39:05.810" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16828" PostId="8034" Score="0" Text="I suggest you use another word !  My answer clearly states all weight classes have a minimum and maximum which is what a weight class means in the first place." CreationDate="2018-01-02T21:42:22.273" UserId="8964" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16832" PostId="8034" Score="0" Text="So what you are saying is if there is no reference there can be no truth?  This is absurd and irrational. Prove my claim incorrect.  You can Google what defines reach weight class that makes them different.  My answer is spot on by definition alone.  The same way you can define a triangle as a shape with only three sides ." CreationDate="2018-01-03T14:11:43.243" UserId="8964" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16833" PostId="8034" Score="1" Text="I am afraid you misunderstood my comments. I do not care whatsoever whether your statement is correct or not. I care about the quality of this site. Answers that are just hear say make this site worst. If it is trivially easy to add a reference, then please do so. I strongly suggest you looked up the [help] to see how this site works." CreationDate="2018-01-03T14:27:30.583" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16834" PostId="8034" Score="2" Text="The definition of a weight class does not include a minimum weight for all organizations. For example, [Roy Jones Jr.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Jones_Jr.#WBA_heavyweight_champion) won the [heavyweight title (200+lb)](http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/2812205.stm) while weighing in at 193 lb." CreationDate="2018-01-03T15:50:00.477" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16835" PostId="8034" Score="0" Text="Nonsense.  A simple Google search will tell you Roy Jones had to move up in weight for that fight to take place.  Many fighters gain weight after the official  weigh in.  In some case after the weigh in fighters might lose 2 to 4 pounds come fight night." CreationDate="2018-01-03T15:58:34.397" UserId="8964" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16837" PostId="8034" Score="2" Text="Roy Jones Jr. moved up in weight classes, but [HE WEIGHED IN AT 193 POUNDS](https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/2003/02/28/jones-is-no-lightweight/004797b1-24ee-4487-9974-b2a32ef0e074/?utm_term=.d3bba7fac914). At that weight, boxers are not normally in the heavyweight class. The cruiserweight/junior-heavyweight max weight is 200 pounds." CreationDate="2018-01-03T16:16:55.197" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16838" PostId="8034" Score="0" Text="In 1920 the heavyweight class was defined as 175 and up.  1980the rules changed in 1980 according to wiki.  Muhammad Ali fought many times below 200." CreationDate="2018-01-03T16:28:21.887" UserId="8964" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16839" PostId="8034" Score="1" Text="Roy Jones Jr. fought Ruiz, weighing in at 193 pounds for a heavyweight fight in 2003, which is after the establishment of the 1980 establishment of the cruiserweight class (200 lb)." CreationDate="2018-01-03T16:42:33.093" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16840" PostId="8034" Score="1" Text="What I want is some solid reference which says something about the upper limit. I checked Wikipedia and there is no mention of any upper limit. Is it safe to assume that the lower limit of a division is the upper limit of the division below it? [Here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weight_class_(boxing)) is my source for boxing. I saw similar results for wrestling as well." CreationDate="2018-01-03T17:05:56.067" UserId="8967" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16841" PostId="8034" Score="0" Text="Because wiki does not list anything does not mean there is nothing in reality.  Your sources can be flawed so references do t always prove anything in reality.  It proves it has been discussed before." CreationDate="2018-01-03T18:17:43.367" UserId="8964" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16843" PostId="7854" Score="0" Text="&quot;Afraid&quot;?  More like impossible.  One school's threshold for quality is different than a bar set by another.  If the OP asked about the rate of advancement in a given school, that is entirely another matter - and then only students there could answer.  You can &quot;get&quot; a black belt using Amazon's &quot;Same Day&quot; delivery service; you can wait 10 years to earn one the hard (and true) way.  So the timeframe is anywhere from immediately to 10 years.&#xA;&#xA;That better?" CreationDate="2018-01-03T21:25:10.860" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16847" PostId="8040" Score="2" Text="Please explain further what you mean by &quot;free moving style&quot; and &quot;disciplined style&quot;." CreationDate="2018-01-06T00:03:05.947" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16848" PostId="8040" Score="3" Text="All martial arts are &quot;free moving&quot; in a fight. The only possible exceptions I can think of (And this is based on perception, not actual experience) is kendo sparring. Can you clarify what you mean?" CreationDate="2018-01-06T00:45:19.920" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16850" PostId="8040" Score="0" Text="Yeah like strict movement with mostly certain positions allowed." CreationDate="2018-01-06T00:50:29.300" UserDisplayName="user8733" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16851" PostId="8038" Score="0" Text="I figured they lack experience (own peers). Thanks for filling in the gaps that couldn't have been known at that time." CreationDate="2018-01-06T07:57:44.650" UserId="8971" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16852" PostId="8040" Score="0" Text="I don't think any style only allows certain positions.  Note however that Taekwondo is a points based competition sport.  You don't score many point for front jabs and so on that you might find effective in boxing. High points are scored for big impressive kicks." CreationDate="2018-01-06T11:41:58.193" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16853" PostId="8040" Score="2" Text="@HuwEvans - That entirely depends on the scoring rules and the federation. And WTF has recently changed the rules (again) to reintroduce punching as a legit technique." CreationDate="2018-01-06T21:25:11.367" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16854" PostId="8041" Score="1" Text="'tul' is the Korean word for pattern/form." CreationDate="2018-01-08T11:30:46.983" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16855" PostId="8041" Score="1" Text="@MikeP: Thank you. For some reason, the term never came up in the four years I took it. :)" CreationDate="2018-01-08T12:21:46.290" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16856" PostId="8038" Score="0" Text="@Stilez It happens to the best guys still. Guys with several more years experience than me will occasionally just not have the right angle or squeeze to finish a choke on me, even when they have the position locked up. It's usually nothing special I'm doing. Once I realize I'm not going to sleep I just relax and work my escape." CreationDate="2018-01-08T16:25:23.570" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16857" PostId="8044" Score="1" Text="I am half tempted to ask &quot;what is a free style?&quot; as a question so you can copy and past this there where it might get seen more." CreationDate="2018-01-08T21:43:34.907" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16858" PostId="8045" Score="1" Text="Welcome to the site. I edited your question slightly to make it more readable. I added a `wushu` tag, please feel free to expend it." CreationDate="2018-01-09T07:48:51.557" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16859" PostId="8046" Score="2" Text="This answer would be much improved with references to back your claims. Also, please look up the [help] to see how we work." CreationDate="2018-01-09T07:49:41.993" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16860" PostId="8045" Score="0" Text="It is also same in Chen Tai chi. The punch should be the done without raising the shoulders and it must be fast and effective. A difficult combination. Needs hip flexibility and good posture, but I cannot explain how. I would also appreciate a structured answer." CreationDate="2018-01-09T09:05:36.183" UserId="6654" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16861" PostId="8045" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion Thanks! +1 for the wushu tag. I wanted to add it but could not because of lack of reputations." CreationDate="2018-01-09T09:08:02.560" UserId="8983" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16862" PostId="8045" Score="0" Text="Feel free to edit the tag to add some more information on it." CreationDate="2018-01-09T09:28:58.190" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16863" PostId="544" Score="0" Text="I disagree that any technique in any form represents a defense against a multiperson attack.  For that to be the case, it presumes a very narrow instance of attacks, making the scenario so improbable that it would neglect more reasonable scenarios with one attacker.  That the technique is unfortunately named a &quot;block&quot; causes confusion about its real purpose - which has nothing to do with blocking anything.  The mountain block mentioned here is a strike - not a block." CreationDate="2018-01-09T13:30:22.143" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16864" PostId="6162" Score="0" Text="Unfortunately, I have but one upvote to give.  But I wholeheartedly agree - not a block at all, and no multiple opponents." CreationDate="2018-01-09T13:41:28.173" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16865" PostId="8045" Score="0" Text="I feel like this is an impossible to answer question without at least a video. Generally, lifting of the shoulders would be because of tension and that would make them slower - If your (presumably high grade) instructor has been unable to solve it, then perhaps it is a physical issue for which seeking physio would be best?" CreationDate="2018-01-09T13:58:29.983" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16866" PostId="8045" Score="0" Text="Do you think you have solved your shoulder tension problem and you are still raising your shoulders? Or do you still have the shoulder tension problem?" CreationDate="2018-01-09T15:53:46.400" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16867" PostId="8045" Score="0" Text="@Collett89&#xA;I once thought it was a physical issue. And I even told that to my instructor.&#xA;But he told me it is unlikely because I always get my shoulders in the right position when he warns me. Could be psychological, but it is very frustrating." CreationDate="2018-01-10T01:26:50.547" UserId="8983" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16868" PostId="8049" Score="0" Text="Unfortunately we don't have a mirror at our training place. Maybe I should try it at home. Thanks. I do sometimes record myself. I watch my mates, and videos online but still can not figure out why." CreationDate="2018-01-10T01:31:51.683" UserId="8983" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16869" PostId="8048" Score="0" Text="Thank you for the detail answer. You are right the newbies at the beginning all seem to have the same problem. But after couple of months they correct the problem, leaving me the only guy still raising shoulders when punching.&#xA;I once thought it could be a physical problem but my instructor told me it is unlikely because I get my shoulders in the right position when I am warned.&#xA;We are taught to use our hips for speed and power. Maybe I am not doing it right. One of the top students always tell me it could be because I always tend to put too much power on my punches." CreationDate="2018-01-10T01:47:04.527" UserId="8983" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16870" PostId="8048" Score="0" Text="The drills are not working. Now I am trying to increase my shoulders flexibility to see it could help. As for my instructor, he has raised lots of champions in Japan. And some of his students are often chosen to represent Japan in Asia competitions." CreationDate="2018-01-10T01:49:33.387" UserId="8983" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16874" PostId="8052" Score="0" Text="Thanks, I will start looking into this... that's why I started asking so much in advance: to have time to follow any leads like this one. No idea why someone downvoted you. (I upvoted instead!)" CreationDate="2018-01-10T12:41:08.710" UserId="831" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16875" PostId="8052" Score="0" Text="Some people seem to care more about whether a question's a perfect fit for the site's topics (I suspect I've been downvoted for daring to answer your question) than encouraging community and activity.  Someone who cared about the site would at least say what they disagree with and try to contribute something.  No wonder the site's almost dormant.  Anyway, best of luck in Tokyo!" CreationDate="2018-01-10T13:57:10.583" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16876" PostId="8048" Score="0" Text="Shoulder flexibility is important, but it will not fix this.  Without a video of you doing a punch, it isn't feasible to tell you what you need to do.  All we can do is give generic advice and hope that something will be beneficial to you.  As to your instructor, he may be producing good fighters elsewhere, but he's pretty much given up on you.  That doesn't make him a good instructor, it makes him arrogant.  So kudos to him for his champs, but shame on him for not being a worthy instructor.  If all he does is cherry pick his students, then his character and accomplishments are in doubt." CreationDate="2018-01-10T15:07:43.110" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16877" PostId="8056" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site! I edited your question slightly to remove some unnecessary parts. Feel free to look at the [help] to see how we work." CreationDate="2018-01-10T15:21:57.683" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16878" PostId="8051" Score="2" Text="I suggest asking this question on a forum related to Tokyo." CreationDate="2018-01-10T15:32:41.690" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16881" PostId="8051" Score="0" Text="You are right and I will (also) try to do it. My rationale to ask here was that -IMHO, at least - martial artists would have a better idea of what is appropriate from someone who has 20+ years of practice, while someone who lives in Tokyo and just noticed a &quot;Ninja Experience&quot; poster in the neighborhood would try to help but lack the experience to discern if this is is valid training or just  a tourist attraction." CreationDate="2018-01-10T16:09:07.767" UserId="831" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16882" PostId="8051" Score="2" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's travel-related" CreationDate="2018-01-10T17:21:23.680" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16883" PostId="8051" Score="1" Text="I agree it's off topic, I took a look at the travel SE site and they also don't allow &quot;what to do when in&quot; type questions. Sorry about that." CreationDate="2018-01-10T20:04:52.767" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16885" PostId="8052" Score="0" Text="&quot;Someone who cared about the site would at least say what they disagree with […]&quot;. Down votes being anonymous and not requiring a justification are features, not bugs. Personally, I got nothing but grief and insults whenever I justified a down vote. Answering bad questions just encourages bad questions which do not make the site better in any way. In any case, your fake internet points raised by 18…" CreationDate="2018-01-11T08:14:17.917" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16887" PostId="8051" Score="0" Text="Sorry about that: feel free to close it if you consider this to be violating the charter - I won't complain." CreationDate="2018-01-11T08:23:33.800" UserId="831" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16889" PostId="8059" Score="1" Text="Welcome to the site. A very interesting answer which would be much improved by references. As it stands, it is nothing more than hear say. Who is your teacher? What books have they written? Where do they make those claims and what evidence do they provide?" CreationDate="2018-01-11T10:48:43.093" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16891" PostId="2564" Score="0" Text="I just ordered the MAO Orthotic socks. Hopefully it will help my daughter who severely over-pronates and has been getting pain in the bone in her arch from the repetitive impact on the mats! I was looking for a karate mat shoe that I could put inserts in, which is what my father had done to help him, when I came across this post. So I will give the MAO socks a shot first." CreationDate="2018-01-11T18:00:58.767" UserId="8990" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16892" PostId="7967" Score="0" Text="My friend,  In a third world country you can even beat the thief all you want, mob justice is the norm, just watch those mob justice videos on youtube." CreationDate="2018-01-11T21:21:14.033" UserId="8781" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16893" PostId="8060" Score="0" Text=". Techniques, which by their nature, cannot be controlled for the safety of the opponent and&#xA;dangerous and uncontrolled attacks. are prohibited though.  Does it come under this?  Apparantly from the karate I have done curved punches come under this." CreationDate="2018-01-11T22:06:43.767" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16894" PostId="8060" Score="0" Text="That would be an interpretation on the rule which should be made by coaches and officials.  On the other hand, a front kick and side kick are hardly considered curved techniques, where round house and crescent kicks are unequivocally ARE.  The rules say anything goes, as long as there's control, correct technique, and other criteria." CreationDate="2018-01-11T22:44:20.423" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16895" PostId="7967" Score="0" Text="@RobertTattorn If one wants to be a thug, one can be thug anywhere. Although it makes such one a scumbag who should apologise to the trees that work so hard to make the oxygen they breath." CreationDate="2018-01-12T08:36:41.673" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16901" PostId="8066" Score="0" Text="you right ı search some youtube videos about that and look related question you posted ıam already doing shotokan karate is this equipment  good ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY8HxlfvHG0&amp;t=187s or ı need to make a makiwara ? and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pprPl6LHZvs ı already do that exercise in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-cqO5V9FTA and my final question is  are you reccommend to use dit da jow ? ı heard this is so important for conditioning and healing what did you think about that ? wow ı almost forget that car tires is it good for condition too ?" CreationDate="2018-01-14T17:04:58.560" UserId="8995" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16902" PostId="8068" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site. This answer would be much improved by some formatting and references." CreationDate="2018-01-15T08:21:20.953" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16903" PostId="8062" Score="0" Text="Thank you, that's a start! &#xA;Subtle nuance: I'm not sure if the name I'm looking for was for the movement itself, or for the &quot;sitting whilst standing&quot; position." CreationDate="2018-01-15T11:46:10.697" UserId="6015" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16904" PostId="8066" Score="0" Text="@LarryColad I'd definitely suggest a mounted makiwara there's a few different types you can buy. A hand-held conditioning block is not going to last long before you outgrow it. Rocks in sand are okay (the sand provides a bit of give) but I'd suggest you build up to that. Of course everyone wants instant results but you can't have that, build up your conditioning carefully and slowly." CreationDate="2018-01-15T18:31:42.653" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16907" PostId="8071" Score="1" Text="well, if you get hit in the groin, I doubt you would be able to set up a technique after you've been hit. Maybe, *maybe*, you would be able to finish a technique that is already set up... but this is not the case here.." CreationDate="2018-01-15T20:50:42.007" UserId="93" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16908" PostId="8060" Score="0" Text="I think in India its widely wrong interpreted. although I did not able to access the link its leads to 404 error. because I did try to use that and its not even connect fully (Yoko geri) and I has been warned by chokaku. with inclusion straight kicks and curved punches." CreationDate="2018-01-16T13:22:51.170" UserId="8501" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16909" PostId="8060" Score="0" Text="@Wigwam how could any Techniques have nature that it could not be controlled? by means of that is it like techniques that hard to defend or something. because I think that Mar Geri and Yoko Geri both are controllable but less defendable compare to Other kicks." CreationDate="2018-01-16T13:27:50.820" UserId="8501" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16910" PostId="8060" Score="0" Text="I can't help with the 404, I can access the link myself.  You may be restricted from viewing PDF files, but that is a technical issue outside the scope here." CreationDate="2018-01-16T13:37:37.237" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16911" PostId="8060" Score="1" Text="As to how a technique can have nature that it cannot be controlled, it's not the technique that is the problem: it is the person.  If you can't throw mae geri properly, but I can, then you should not use mae geri.  Just this past weekend, I officiated at a tournament which saw several uncontrolled techniques - all punches - and had to warn them that they were uncontrolled." CreationDate="2018-01-16T13:40:49.477" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16912" PostId="8071" Score="0" Text="@Tomas I've done it many times. Being in pain sucks, but adrenaline is an amazing thing." CreationDate="2018-01-16T16:19:29.060" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16913" PostId="8071" Score="0" Text="Hey guys, who are downvoting, can you comment on this? What experience you have? Thanks coinbird. It's good to know, that your answer is backed up with experience, although I'm not really sure how this would work if someone is hit really hard.. like in Bruce Lee's clip." CreationDate="2018-01-16T17:07:20.140" UserId="93" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16914" PostId="8071" Score="0" Text="Down votes are anonymous by design. All it means is that someone did not like this answer, or part of this answer. That is all." CreationDate="2018-01-16T17:08:44.137" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16916" PostId="8059" Score="0" Text="My sincere apologies, and thank you.  I’m very new to all of this...  My Si-Gung is Sifu Alex Richter.  He authored the The Little Idea, co-hosts the Dudes of Kung Fu podcast, founded and runs the biggest Wing Tsun center in NYC, and has a popular Wing Chun series on HowCast.com.  He’s also been featured on VICE, The Discovery Channel, NBC, PBS, Black Belt Magazine, Kung Fu/Taichi Magazine, Wing Chun Illustrated, and Harper's Bazaar." CreationDate="2018-01-16T17:37:41.020" UserId="8989" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16917" PostId="8059" Score="0" Text="...but if i may, i really only meant to offer this explanation as a theory.  I don’t know that any of it can be proven, certainly not by myself and likely not by my Si-Gung." CreationDate="2018-01-16T17:39:13.500" UserId="8989" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16918" PostId="8059" Score="0" Text="Please edit the answer and add those details there. Also check out the [help]." CreationDate="2018-01-16T18:08:17.623" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16919" PostId="8071" Score="0" Text="@Tomas What usually happens in my case (MMA) is someone dropping a knee on my groin while attempting to pass guard or land strikes.. On the sparring days when I'm a dummy and don't wear a cup, it's horrifically painful. The absolute worst. One of two things can happen: 1. The training partner is my buddy and I say stop so I can recover. Or 2. The training partner is someone I really want to beat, maybe for the sake of ego, so I push through, and continue fighting. It's not like being knocked out, your body and brain still work. It's just rough, and you might piss blood later." CreationDate="2018-01-16T21:48:42.633" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16920" PostId="8071" Score="0" Text="@Tomas Watching that clip again, Lee hits a solid double leg. He would have been much better off controlling the position on the ground that he worked for and raining down elbows. GSP, one of the greatest fighters of all time, made his living doing exactly that. If groin strikes were legal, I'm almost certain GSP wouldn't change his game plan in that situation." CreationDate="2018-01-16T22:00:08.330" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16921" PostId="8071" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion you don't have to explain this. You should have rather add that it is part of good culture to explain downvotes. This helps to distinguish an answer which is merely unliked from an answer which is plain wrong." CreationDate="2018-01-17T03:26:38.440" UserId="93" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16922" PostId="8074" Score="0" Text="attacking elbows with my feet? What do you mean?" CreationDate="2018-01-17T03:29:22.687" UserId="93" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16923" PostId="8071" Score="0" Text="@Tomas Explaining down votes lead to abuse. It is not part of good culture. Trust the old hand of stack, this has been discussed many time before…" CreationDate="2018-01-17T08:19:30.283" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16925" PostId="8073" Score="0" Text="of course that could be no one and complete martial arts as there will be too many situations of fight,too many techniques, too many aspects or approaches so too many style and forms and having know to that its baseless to point finger to other style or martial arts i just wonder what is philosophy/perspective behind this exclusion." CreationDate="2018-01-17T11:17:11.447" UserId="8501" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16926" PostId="8074" Score="0" Text="@Tomas You can defend attacks from your opponent's arms by disrupting the elbow or simply place your foot/knee there to jam them." CreationDate="2018-01-17T13:55:01.823" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16927" PostId="8071" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion Or they can not lead to abuse. They can lead to clarification. One party often just misunderstood part of an answer or question." CreationDate="2018-01-17T16:06:57.473" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16928" PostId="8071" Score="0" Text="@coinbird This has been discussed to death on meta already…" CreationDate="2018-01-18T07:32:00.097" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16929" PostId="8071" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion Indeed it has. &quot;I use them (comments) to ask for clarification, explain how the answer could be better, or just why I think the answer is worthless -- down vote.&quot; - you" CreationDate="2018-01-18T15:18:29.657" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16930" PostId="8071" Score="0" Text="@coinbird ☺ Thank you for find this, do you have a link? I need to update that statement as I changed my mind since then. You can even quote [this](https://history.meta.stackexchange.com/q/48/103) to me as an example of how I was a youthful naive idiot." CreationDate="2018-01-18T15:47:33.790" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16931" PostId="8071" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion Hah! Here you go: https://martialarts.meta.stackexchange.com/a/371/8174&#xA;&#xA;My point was it's not black or white. There is absolutely a place for explaining a downvote. I can also see how it would lead to abuse. In a perfect world where everyone ignores their ego, explaining downvotes would lead us to better answers." CreationDate="2018-01-18T16:29:35.593" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16933" PostId="8078" Score="0" Text="I edited your question a little to make it read a little less rambly. Let me know if I change the meaning of it." CreationDate="2018-01-19T07:50:31.737" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16934" PostId="8078" Score="0" Text="It is best not to accept an answer for at least a few days. It leaves a chance for others to add their answer… The accepted kinda says &quot;do not bother, that's what I was looking for&quot;." CreationDate="2018-01-19T07:51:10.823" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16935" PostId="8078" Score="0" Text="[Obligatory link…](http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/rape.html)" CreationDate="2018-01-19T07:54:23.447" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16936" PostId="8071" Score="0" Text="@coinbird Thank you for that. Much appreciated." CreationDate="2018-01-19T07:58:53.507" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16937" PostId="8078" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion: editing out the *&quot;tries to drag you to his car or rape you&quot;* part of the question means answers are unlikely to give the same coverage of these specific concerns...." CreationDate="2018-01-19T16:39:04.313" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16938" PostId="8077" Score="1" Text="Is there really any such thing as too hard or too dirty? How do you think the Thais train?" CreationDate="2018-01-20T00:52:58.837" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16939" PostId="6162" Score="1" Text="The problem I think, is the concept of &quot;a response&quot;, or &quot;defence&quot; has been translated to english as &quot;block&quot;. This is certainly true in Karate, with &quot;uke&quot; and has caused many misconceptions.&#xA;&#xA;The other problem is the position is being analysed out of context. It only has meaning in the context of the preceding movements in the form." CreationDate="2018-01-21T18:46:57.947" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16940" PostId="8078" Score="0" Text="@TonyD I was ambivalent about this. Grabbing a feel of breasts is sexual assault but not rape -- according to the [definition](https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/rape). I felt that adding the rape case would expand the situation to being too broad. OP needs to confirm or deny," CreationDate="2018-01-22T08:46:38.643" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16941" PostId="8077" Score="0" Text="I don't know, but they developed Tatamis for this purpose, right?" CreationDate="2018-01-22T09:29:38.653" UserId="9005" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16942" PostId="8077" Score="1" Text="Nope, wrong culture. Tatami are Japanese while Muay Thai comes from Thailand. The Thais train on dirt, concrete and wooden floors in bare feet. Genuine Muay Thai is one of the &quot;harder&quot; arts, so I'm a bit bemused at your comment that the floor is too hard or dirty, that's why I mentioned how the Thais train. Tatami were originally a form of padding for nobility to walk and sit on, they weren't for training." CreationDate="2018-01-22T10:37:07.707" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16943" PostId="8082" Score="0" Text="Well, yes - tachi dori is usually the &quot;defender&quot; using the ken to throw/pin down the &quot;attacker&quot; (just like jo-dori). If we use jo as a reference this would be more like &quot;tachi nage&quot; but I never heard this so maybe it does not make sense or it is not the right term anyway." CreationDate="2018-01-22T10:41:37.073" UserId="831" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16944" PostId="8082" Score="1" Text="Guess what? it is tachi nage, after all, thanks!" CreationDate="2018-01-22T10:47:15.153" UserId="831" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16945" PostId="8083" Score="0" Text="You are welcome. ☺" CreationDate="2018-01-22T12:25:14.063" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16946" PostId="8077" Score="0" Text="Oh.... all right then! So, you don't know any shoes?" CreationDate="2018-01-22T13:46:44.330" UserId="9005" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16947" PostId="8077" Score="0" Text="Uhm...what he is saying is that if you train traditional, you should do it without shoes. If you must use shoes, get the most minimal shoes you can." CreationDate="2018-01-22T14:21:50.787" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16948" PostId="8077" Score="0" Text="Yeah, but I got some health issues, which deppending on the floor, prevents me from stepping on it bare foot. I think that there are some korean shoes that have their upper part open, but I can't remember the name" CreationDate="2018-01-22T15:32:59.497" UserId="9005" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16949" PostId="8077" Score="0" Text="@HDD Needing them because of health issues changes the question a little, you should include that in the question (you don't have to say *what* the health issue is, just that you need shoes because of it). If you do that I'll tidy these comments up." CreationDate="2018-01-22T18:21:41.440" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16950" PostId="8085" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site. You should check the [help] to see how we work. As it stands, this is more of a comment than an answer. Could you expend it to explain better what you mean?" CreationDate="2018-01-23T08:47:46.180" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16951" PostId="8085" Score="2" Text="Also, the heart (despite popular myth) is not on the left side, it's pretty much centered between the lungs underneath the sternum (Middle flat part in the front of the chest between the ribs)." CreationDate="2018-01-23T14:46:17.370" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16953" PostId="8077" Score="0" Text="Both taekwondo and &quot;kung fu&quot; sometimes practice in shoes - if you google &quot;kungfu shoes&quot; you'll find plenty of online ordering opportunities...." CreationDate="2018-01-25T21:42:06.730" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16954" PostId="8077" Score="0" Text="You should train in the manner you intend to use your style.  If for sport, then you should invest in puzzle or tatami mats, or said dirty concrete floor.  If you are training for self-defense, then, you will typically be wearing shoes or sneakers: that is what you should be training in.  You don't want to use sneakers on mats, they'll tear the mats up.  There are special TKD shoes, they're not unlike bowling shoes: soft leather on the bottom, and can be worn on mats.  But wearing these on concrete will wear them out in no time." CreationDate="2018-01-26T02:14:24.747" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16955" PostId="262" Score="0" Text="I'll add that &quot;The Way of Kata&quot;, by Lawrence Kane and Kris Wilder is a superb book on the subject, and is highly regarded by many in the Karate and Taekwondo communities." CreationDate="2018-01-26T02:56:43.447" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16956" PostId="8086" Score="1" Text="Note the circle on the sole - under the inside of the ball of the foot. That is designed to allow the shoe to twist on the floor - stopping you from damaging your knees. It is an important part of a TKD practice shoe" CreationDate="2018-01-26T10:30:09.090" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16957" PostId="8090" Score="0" Text="Following the link I see squatting are used widely in various activities: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squatting_position#Image_gallery" CreationDate="2018-01-26T17:05:01.937" UserId="8476" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16960" PostId="8090" Score="1" Text="The horse stance does not meet the definition of squatting discussed in *Gut*. One of the experiments involved three positions: &quot;enthroned on a normal toilet; half-sitting, half-squatting on an unusually low toilet; and squatting with no seat beneath them at all&quot;. The squatting is reported as requiring the shortest duration and best satisfactory bowel emptying feeling. The horse stance is closer to one of the first two positions than the squat." CreationDate="2018-01-27T14:31:23.523" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16961" PostId="8092" Score="0" Text="what does &quot;squeezing your passages shut&quot; mean? And from your description it's simply a state of resting, but still being ready for the next move, is it?" CreationDate="2018-01-28T07:33:28.063" UserId="8476" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16962" PostId="8090" Score="1" Text="@mattm but from the gallery it explicitly says that the stance is a kind of squat?" CreationDate="2018-01-28T07:35:00.977" UserId="8476" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16963" PostId="8065" Score="0" Text="now ıam using rice filled bag for condition  is it safe ? here a picture of it http://oi67.tinypic.com/1582ybk.jpg" CreationDate="2018-01-28T13:17:44.627" UserId="8995" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16964" PostId="8090" Score="0" Text="@Ooker Yes, both the horse stance and the pooping squat are kinds of squats, but the pooping squat is knees to chest and butt to ankles and the horse stance is neither." CreationDate="2018-01-28T13:41:04.353" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16965" PostId="8092" Score="0" Text="@Ooker: &quot;squeezing your passages shut&quot; was kind of a joking reference to someone trying so hard to be in position that they had their rectum squeezed almost shut. I'll replace it with something about constant muscular tension being wearying. And, assuming you weren't just going with a pun about bowel movement, yes, I think the author was describing being in an actively involved position that doesn't require effort to maintain for a prolonged amount of time." CreationDate="2018-01-28T13:56:08.497" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16966" PostId="8090" Score="0" Text="ah, so you should have emphasized the whole phrase &quot;discussed in Gut&quot;, not just &quot;Gut&quot; alone :). After understand it the whole point becomes clear to me. Thanks" CreationDate="2018-01-28T15:23:21.967" UserId="8476" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16970" PostId="8088" Score="0" Text="+1 for Prep for throwing - that never came up for me; implementing locks and pins are the reasons I am taught.  Why slow movements are not very common?  There are a great many techniques which are arguably anything but a throw (eg ITF's &quot;stick block&quot;), and they are not done with dynamic tension.  I get it that techniques can have many meanings, and some may or may not relate to pins or throws.  Seems odd to have so few." CreationDate="2018-01-29T16:22:52.563" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16971" PostId="8091" Score="0" Text="Agreed; but why would a form change speeds in the middle of it, for only a couple of techniques, and not the whole form" CreationDate="2018-01-29T17:18:01.750" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16972" PostId="8088" Score="1" Text="Oh, the stick block. I think I know which one you mean. It's in Chung Gun Hyung, last two moves. It's not blocking a staff. And yeah, why the inconsistency? What makes one form have pauses or slow motion while it's not in others? The answer is: Whoever started doing it just wanted it that way. You have to ask them. :) I've also seen that a pause is added just because their instructor taught them the form in two or more segments, so the pause would be where one segment ends and another begins. Really, sometimes it's just that simple a reason. People make it much more significant than it is." CreationDate="2018-01-29T18:44:37.010" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16973" PostId="8091" Score="1" Text="@Wigwam See edits about short term speed changes." CreationDate="2018-01-29T21:34:46.243" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16974" PostId="8088" Score="0" Text="Stick block... I cringe when I hear &quot;block a stick&quot;... oy...  In Karate though, everything has martial significance, nothing wasted.  Rule of thumb, if you're doing something in a kata, and you don't know what it means, it means you've got some learning to do.  So, there you *should* be obsessing over everything  LOL  But we seem to relax that in TKD, and at the expense of less learning, I think" CreationDate="2018-01-29T22:39:43.147" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16975" PostId="8091" Score="0" Text="So I'm getting the picture that the student can change things up in the form - at least, in Chinese styles - is that the idea?  btw, I like the metaphors!" CreationDate="2018-01-30T04:11:17.323" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16976" PostId="8088" Score="0" Text="Oh there's a reason for everything, but sometimes it's way off from being martially significant. There are a bunch of errors and idiosyncrasies that get passed on without explanation, and then people try to find reasons for it later on. Like I remember one kung-fu system where they were making their fists by leaving the thumb on the outside of the fist instead of tucked in. Their instructor taught them when he was past 80 years old and had arthritis, so he couldn't tuck his thumb. People copied it and passed it on. You don't see it in the schools that branched off before that. Haha." CreationDate="2018-01-30T04:44:31.580" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16977" PostId="8088" Score="1" Text="... But people later tried to make up reasons for why making the fist that way was somehow better. I've seen forms with a &quot;loose&quot; index finger someti mes for the same reason: the instructor had arthritis or a broken / messed up finger. And it gets passed on. Anyway, this is why I say you need to look at the way other branches of schools with the same forms do their forms. If you get enough data points, you can work out what changed, when, and by whom. If you're lucky, you might be able to figure out why." CreationDate="2018-01-30T04:48:00.113" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16981" PostId="8086" Score="0" Text="Also regarding my last sentence, I just found this :-) https://imgur.com/a/BJ1ao" CreationDate="2018-01-30T12:15:40.357" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16982" PostId="8091" Score="1" Text="@Wigwam You can vary the execution of a movement but not change to a new movement. For example, a right straight punch could be done fast, slow, starting slow and ending fast (to train short power), or even ending with a second short power strike with the same hand. But you would not substitute an attack with the left hand or a kick or a right hook in the context of training a form." CreationDate="2018-01-30T13:40:59.083" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16984" PostId="8092" Score="0" Text="I have sent her a Tweet to ask whether she can comment further." CreationDate="2018-01-30T16:58:10.887" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16985" PostId="8088" Score="1" Text="This is an excellent reason not to accept forms as dogma, and to question everything.  This prevents the blind acceptance of a technique within it which doesn't really have a purpose.  Of course, one should be experienced enough to make that determination, and not to allow that determination to be made based purely on ignorance.  But in my primary style's culture (TKD), it's usually taboo to question *everything* - and in many cases, *anything*.  In my limited experienced with it, it seems similar in Karate." CreationDate="2018-01-30T19:23:06.067" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16986" PostId="8091" Score="0" Text="Curious still: when performing one's taolu, are you graded on your interpretation of the movements?  Or by your ability to perform the entirety according to the instructor (sifu)?  In my case in TKD, we never perform them in any way other than how the instructor tells us.  I guess the only exception would be when someone is doing a creative form." CreationDate="2018-01-30T19:27:03.700" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16987" PostId="8095" Score="0" Text="I guess his is a little disappointing.  It is no secret that our TKD forms were borrowed from Karate.  It follows that the techniques are also borrowed.  Why would there be a generally-accepted martial purpose for a given technique in Karate, yet written off as &quot;artistic&quot; in Taekwondo?  Why would the Japanese label a particular technique as &quot;being grabbed in this fashion&quot;, where the Koreans declared, &quot;nonesense, it's representative of the rising sun&quot;?  (I'm thinking the first technique in Kwang Gae Hyung as one example)." CreationDate="2018-01-30T19:30:47.917" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16988" PostId="8095" Score="0" Text="You are right, it's hard to source your assertion, but your assertion is commonly espoused by many instructors.  I do hope there is definitive source somewhere which states TKD forms were adapted from Karate, but, the meanings therein were deliberately re-meaninged (is that a word?)  I think, when an established system is adapted, and then the meanings changed, there is a loss and toss of history and knowledge.  When the Japanese teach a method for self-defense, and then the Koreans say don't bother it's just a piece of art... that tells me there is loss of learning.  Am I unreasonable?" CreationDate="2018-01-30T19:37:49.783" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16989" PostId="8091" Score="1" Text="@Wigwam I do not know actually. Grading was not important at this school; there were basically no ranks. I trained there regularly for 5 years and never witnessed an exam, though I believe there was exactly one." CreationDate="2018-01-30T20:56:04.693" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16992" PostId="8092" Score="0" Text="But if so, then martial arts or skiing should not be mentioned at all, since this pose is universal. The author should simply have described it as a resting pose, is it? Also, can I see the Twitter link?" CreationDate="2018-01-31T10:49:27.913" UserId="8476" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16993" PostId="8095" Score="0" Text="I don't think the forms were borrowed from Karate at all. There are some similarities in some combinations, but they are entirely different in structure. I did a comparison between Kukkiwon poomsae and ITF tul and Shotokan Kata in my thesis. They certainly aren't just a Karate clone done in a watered-down Taekwondo way." CreationDate="2018-01-31T11:58:37.747" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16994" PostId="8092" Score="0" Text="@Ooker: https://twitter.com/FuzzyDugganSC/status/958383589678346241" CreationDate="2018-01-31T14:17:49.107" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16996" PostId="8060" Score="0" Text="@Wingwam i am now able to access the link and now from that i did aware that they do allow this with less force but not to face as it will contact on center part of face that is injury prone and crucial part so they do not allow this kick on face and groin and like other below belt parts. thanks for the link." CreationDate="2018-02-01T08:47:54.310" UserId="8501" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16998" PostId="8104" Score="2" Text="This looks like spam." CreationDate="2018-02-03T14:43:06.090" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="16999" PostId="8099" Score="0" Text="That's the thing that worried me. The higher and shorter energy consumption in karate vs the lower and longer energy consumption in cycling that are so different. I was uncertain if it will affect it to a considerable degree." CreationDate="2018-02-03T17:42:55.400" UserId="8386" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17000" PostId="8104" Score="4" Text="There is a lot that is implicit or unsaid in your answer, which makes it appear to be only promotional (ie spam). If you expand your answer it would look better - for example mention how you could use the bag and then soak in a bucket of Vanish." CreationDate="2018-02-03T23:51:36.750" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17001" PostId="8103" Score="1" Text="I feel like - focusing on giving back in other ways is probably the most important aspect of this. Improving your own depth of knowledge and what you can offer students (as well as the continual self improvement technique or otherwise that we look for)." CreationDate="2018-02-05T07:52:12.737" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17002" PostId="8099" Score="0" Text="@Fel31 I do a lot of running and work on a cross trainer - having a good level of general fitness will allow you to give 100% in classes - its just about making sure you keep on top of stretching (for a kicking martial art especially) and understand which muscles you aren't training as effectively day to day (you can either add training to make up for that - or adjust your techniques to take advantage of where you are stronger - my front kicks/back kicks are much more effective than my side/turning kicks because of how my training effects my leg muscles)." CreationDate="2018-02-05T07:57:46.787" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17005" PostId="8101" Score="0" Text="You could always seek a federation that has age gradated categories. I am 51 and still compete quite successfully against my own age cohort. I am segregated from the 18-35ish year old beasts." CreationDate="2018-02-06T14:24:35.540" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17006" PostId="159" Score="0" Text="Don't have much experience in other martial arts/self-defense, but I'm currently in the process of learning [Systema](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systema), and it's really focused on self-defense (think street fighting etc.) as opposed to being an &quot;art&quot;." CreationDate="2018-02-06T18:02:56.603" UserId="8598" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17007" PostId="8103" Score="0" Text="You might need to define what you mean by older folks." CreationDate="2018-02-06T20:50:48.927" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17008" PostId="8103" Score="1" Text="uh oh.  I guess each person is different, maybe can interpret for their own personal experience?  I'm in my 50's and I struggle, but my instructors are in their 60's and 70's - and they have no problems." CreationDate="2018-02-06T21:10:04.823" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17009" PostId="8101" Score="0" Text="@JohnP some of my competitions split 18-35, 36-45 and 46+ others just do 36+ (and one set on the circuit does 40+). I am more aiming the question at the latter years of those categories (so 30-35ish and in some respects 40-45ish as well). Your comment itself is a good start to an answer though (finding a tournament where there are more age categories/the splits are different is certainly something to consider)" CreationDate="2018-02-07T07:51:34.567" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17010" PostId="8105" Score="1" Text="Welcome to the site. This might be the first example of a medical question that I do not want to trash immediately: It is focused, does not ask for medical advise, and seeks technical advise based on martial arts. Thank you." CreationDate="2018-02-07T09:18:55.540" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17014" PostId="8105" Score="0" Text="Yes, sorry, I missed the end of the last sentence accidentally. And thank you for the compliment, but I thought these were the standard rules of SE" CreationDate="2018-02-07T10:34:39.817" UserId="9052" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17015" PostId="8105" Score="0" Text="Very few new users pay any attentions whatsoever to the [help] or standard rules…" CreationDate="2018-02-07T10:48:25.207" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17016" PostId="8105" Score="2" Text="Recovery is every bit as important as stretching." CreationDate="2018-02-07T10:50:08.667" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17017" PostId="8105" Score="0" Text="I see. I'm coming from the maths SE which seems a much stricter on their standards. Thanks I am trying to recover, and train once every 3-4 days, with some cardio/stretching/light bag work in between. Problem is that I'm rapidly becoming addicted to karate and I want to train every day again" CreationDate="2018-02-07T13:20:07.760" UserId="9052" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17018" PostId="8105" Score="0" Text="I have similar pain in my outer hips - stretching the hip relieves it, but we never do this enough in class for my hips (sometimes I am unable to attempt a split stretch without stretching my hips out first).&#xA;As for knee pain - physio/other medical specialist - knees in general are not worth risking. For my own health I would avoid mae geri for a couple of weeks if I didn't want to bother a physician." CreationDate="2018-02-07T13:34:17.170" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17019" PostId="8103" Score="1" Text="Agree with @Wigwam here - older is totally subjective - some 60 year olds are incredibly fit and flexible - some 30 year olds (and younger) suffer with deterioration of their joints. For us keen martial artists we are likely all going to have to go through this at some point - which is why I specifically left age out" CreationDate="2018-02-07T13:41:03.620" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17020" PostId="8105" Score="0" Text="**Comment are not for extended discussion. Please sue [chat] for that.**" CreationDate="2018-02-07T13:44:45.040" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17021" PostId="8101" Score="0" Text="18-35 is a huge range, and not fair to either end of the spectrum. Ours splits it 18-29 which I still don't like much. The rest of the groups are split 30-39, 40-49. 50-59. etc. If there are not enough in a ring at a tournament, the TD can combine some rings/ranks if needed." CreationDate="2018-02-07T15:26:15.090" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17022" PostId="8103" Score="1" Text="@Wigwam - I get what you mean, but just wanted it clarified a bit. I am 51, I am fully healed from a freak achilles rupture, but I still do 360 jump spin kicks, 540's and a few other &quot;trick&quot; kicks in our creative/extreme divisions. There are quite a few older people that can still do these as well. But the rest of your points are well  taken, and it is a good concern." CreationDate="2018-02-07T15:27:47.250" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17023" PostId="8101" Score="0" Text="@JohnP that sort of competition might help me out in the short term - but I still bet at 38-39 I am going to be struggling to match those at 30. There is no perfect solution to this as people struggle in different ways at different ages (Some 38-39 year olds would happily take on the 18 year olds too). I just want to continue to do well and progress in my art and belt ranks (which are getting far apart) and medals are the more visible signs - learning to love the other aspects is the real target" CreationDate="2018-02-07T15:43:19.050" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17025" PostId="8108" Score="0" Text="An pictorial representation of the mudras would be useful." CreationDate="2018-02-09T11:26:00.837" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17026" PostId="8109" Score="0" Text="Just a minor point - Ballistic stretching is the bobbing type stretching where you bounce up and down in the stretch multiple times. Dynamic stretching is the type that mimics the movements you are going to start doing. Doing high kicks would be dynamic, not ballistic. (And should be done in increasing amplitude, but as you say, peeps walk in and start kicking away...)" CreationDate="2018-02-09T17:45:22.177" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17027" PostId="8109" Score="0" Text="Yes... sort of.  Ballistic means to use momentum to move the body part (ie, the leg).  Dynamic means to use the muscle to carry the leg.  Dynamic is always safe, never needs rest periods, and can be used while recovering from being on the mend: it IS your normal workout.  Ballistic is like using kinetic energy, while dynamic is like using potential energy.  &#xA;https://www.stadion.com/errors-in-training-for-flexibility-in-sports-and-martial-arts/" CreationDate="2018-02-09T20:33:40.523" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17028" PostId="8109" Score="0" Text="No, I mean that ballistic, dynamic, static and pnf are actual kinesiology terms for types of stretching. While mostly contraindicated, ballistic (bouncing repeatedly while stretching) does have a few uses. Dynamic is an entirely different method, and is what you are describing." CreationDate="2018-02-10T01:35:43.107" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17033" PostId="4600" Score="0" Text="I am in Michael Dealys class. There is no contact and we do Tae Kwon Do. I hope this was helpful." CreationDate="2018-02-13T01:49:10.980" UserId="9066" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17035" PostId="8108" Score="0" Text="There's some mention of mudras in ninjutsu, as an aid to meditation.  There's are details on Wikipedia [here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuji-in#Meanings_in_Ninjutsu), and a list of the hand positions elsewhere on the same page (yours isn't listed).  I haven't heard of any other martial art using such hand gestures: you mention there should be one using this hand gesture, do have no leads at all (e.g. is it an Indian martial art, or perhaps Chinese)?  As for an &quot;official hand mudras record&quot; - what makes anything official?  Google turns up lots of lists and images for hand mudras." CreationDate="2018-02-14T18:24:53.633" UserId="9071" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17044" PostId="8108" Score="0" Text="@user433534 I'm not sure my information is accurate since I first found it on vhs. I just used parts to help me with Judo and several boxing forms. Google seemed to have only a limited number of hand mudra types. The video itself was from the 90's and did have Michael Jackson in it either as a main part or without his permission. Searches for that were showing just numerous other unrelated videos of course. I'm not sure how significant the overall mudra was even in the video. Same as making 3-4 points of ground contact outside of its use in various positions and for general use like walking." CreationDate="2018-02-17T05:03:18.150" UserId="9057" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17045" PostId="8118" Score="3" Text="Were any of the advise useful? What happened in the end? …" CreationDate="2018-02-20T15:54:43.903" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17046" PostId="8124" Score="1" Text="Welcome to the site. Make sure you look at the [help]. In general, we are looking for more than one line answers. Could you expand yours?" CreationDate="2018-02-21T12:59:23.277" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17047" PostId="8124" Score="0" Text="This could be a great answer if you could give examples of the listed tactics. What makes a distraction different than a fake? How/where to shuffle? Etc." CreationDate="2018-02-21T14:36:06.367" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17048" PostId="8125" Score="0" Text="Do you want an answer for a particular style? It's been several years since I practiced Tae-Kwan-Do, so I can't speak from personal experience, but poking around the internet, this is apparently something that varies between styles." CreationDate="2018-02-23T05:25:59.470" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17050" PostId="8124" Score="0" Text="Thank you for updating your answer. Have an upvote to keep you going. Could we have a link to the book?" CreationDate="2018-02-23T08:23:21.940" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17054" PostId="1180" Score="0" Text="*Excellent* point about the benefits of consciously and systematically working through difficulties on your non-dominant side.  Teaching has similar benefits: having to pin down the crucial aspects of a technique, the significant subtleties, and find exercises to develop them in people to whom they don't come naturally - whether your non-dominant side or a student's - is a great way to reach deeper levels of competency." CreationDate="2018-02-25T02:03:25.267" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17055" PostId="8129" Score="0" Text="I don't see anything that they emphasize winning, merely that they emphasize entering competitions. Competitions are excellent measuring sticks to see where you might be needing extra work on various elements of martial arts. It's not always about &quot;get the trophy&quot;." CreationDate="2018-02-26T14:08:31.660" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17059" PostId="7737" Score="0" Text="Me personally I think movie fantacy. But there is really no wrong anwser. Go with your heart if thats useful." CreationDate="2018-02-27T18:42:41.720" UserId="9104" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17060" PostId="6734" Score="0" Text="How often do you compete/fight?" CreationDate="2018-02-27T20:17:07.390" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17065" PostId="7020" Score="0" Text="I wonder if there has been a history of students being exposed to sparring with a partner early-on, and they went out of the dojo and injured non practitioners. Eventually martial arts clubs decided to allow sparring with partners and teaching of advanced techniques only to experienced students. I wonder if this is the reason students are made to do just katas for many years. This being a way to get rid of people with less patience. Perhaps these would be the kind of people who would show less restraint once they've learnt techniques." CreationDate="2018-02-28T08:07:36.860" UserId="6623" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17068" PostId="7020" Score="0" Text="@Nav: Welcome back. I feel like your comment is more apropos to Steve's answer, though. :)" CreationDate="2018-02-28T11:44:47.067" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17069" PostId="3045" Score="0" Text="Removed the word 'internal' before federation. Was it supposed to mean &quot;national federation&quot; (internal to the country), or &quot;international federation&quot;?" CreationDate="2018-02-28T15:51:38.357" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17070" PostId="3045" Score="0" Text="Where did you get the idea that there are tests for those ranks from? Afaik they are 100% honorary." CreationDate="2018-02-28T16:26:14.150" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17071" PostId="8140" Score="4" Text="Love this question. Actually, a negative answer would explain a lot about the current status of the art." CreationDate="2018-02-28T19:13:17.563" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17073" PostId="6880" Score="0" Text="Depends on which military, which branch, what your MOS is.... Very subjective question." CreationDate="2018-03-01T09:43:14.360" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17075" PostId="6880" Score="0" Text="working as city police officer in one of the most violent cities.I have taken many assault reports from soldiers from all branches who got beat while here on furlough.I would tell any soldier to invest plenty time in martials training.Peace ,tony" CreationDate="2018-03-01T08:30:35.530" UserId="9107" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17076" PostId="8143" Score="0" Text="Awarding an 8th dan is a good indication Ueshiba thought the awardee understood, but I think there is still a hole with students affirmatively stating they understood explanations in light of Kunigoshi's statement." CreationDate="2018-03-02T19:51:57.700" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17077" PostId="3045" Score="0" Text="My coach was Hiroshi Nakamura. He had to go take a test to get his 8th and 9th Dan.  He didnt talked much about the test, and I doubt it was a physical exam mind you ..&#xA;&#xA;and as for the international federation, it was update since I last answer : &#xA;&#xA;&quot;There have only been seventeen judan (tenth dan) judoka in history, fifteen promoted by the Kodokan (japan federation) and two by the International Judo Federation&quot;" CreationDate="2018-03-03T14:49:51.310" UserId="1526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17084" PostId="4890" Score="1" Text="I have the same problem of getting bloody knuckles in that area. It is good to know I am not the only one.I have read through a few of the responses and I think I am going to try a few. Thanks for the info." CreationDate="2018-03-05T18:39:50.353" UserId="9115" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17085" PostId="1530" Score="1" Text="Great explanation of the transliteration one point to note is that, especially, in the USA Ju-jutsu will often be directly Japanese derived  and and Jiu-jitsu will commonly refer to Brazilian Jiu-jitsu (BJJ) this will not be universal but stems from the spelling introduced to Brazil." CreationDate="2018-03-06T10:03:57.140" UserId="5851" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17088" PostId="1530" Score="0" Text="@Nate - Given BJJ comes from a place that speaks Portuguese, it makes a lot of sense that BJJ practitioners favour the &quot;jiu&quot; spelling. What I find odd is that they don't use it for both syllables (jiu-jitsu vs jiu-jiutsu). It might be related to the first &quot;ju&quot; being longer in japanese (jūjutsu, or juujutsu), but it really doesn't sound the same to me that way." CreationDate="2018-03-08T22:56:10.650" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17089" PostId="8154" Score="0" Text="If possible, explain further what you or your sensei means by stiff. On this site no one has the benefit of seeing you in person; answers are limited by your description." CreationDate="2018-03-11T03:08:21.690" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17090" PostId="8154" Score="0" Text="@mattm by stiff it means my motions are obstructed by my body in some way. My kicks are not flowing that freely." CreationDate="2018-03-11T07:08:46.273" UserId="8465" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17091" PostId="8155" Score="1" Text="I think this answer is spot on. When doing Karate in the UK, being stiff was used as a description for me wanting the execution too much, i.e. being *tensed*, having no flow and thus no speed. This does not necessarily have to do with flexibility, which can be another point (my hip flexor being too short, hence Zenkutsu-dachi with upright posture being problematic)." CreationDate="2018-03-12T07:21:33.027" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17093" PostId="8157" Score="1" Text="Being unable to kick at end/max of flexibility can also be a strength issue - being able to bully your legs into a position on the floor is different to being able to lift your leg into that position in the air&#xA;(Kicking practice as you suggest will help this also)." CreationDate="2018-03-15T14:39:00.193" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17094" PostId="8157" Score="1" Text="@Collett89 I agree. That's why I love the kick conditioning exercises. You will build strength specifically for that kick!" CreationDate="2018-03-15T14:42:44.230" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17095" PostId="8158" Score="1" Text="Just a note on pivoting the standing foot - while it allows the hips to open and greater height be achieved - you are kicking forwards while your standing foot will then be giving you support sideways instead of in the direction of the kick - resulting in a much weaker kick&#xA;In a world of poomsae competitions where the aesthetics of getting a kick nice and high can sometimes be more important than this loss of power this may not necessarily be a bad thing in the OPs case." CreationDate="2018-03-16T07:44:46.420" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17096" PostId="8159" Score="3" Text="Possible duplicate of [Solo martial art learning](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/3129/solo-martial-art-learning)" CreationDate="2018-03-16T08:04:50.143" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17097" PostId="8161" Score="0" Text="*&quot;Karate is not boxing. They are two separate sports...&quot;* - or one martial art and one sport, depending on the karate school.  Lots of solid points." CreationDate="2018-03-16T22:28:58.777" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17098" PostId="8161" Score="2" Text="Technically both are both martial arts and sports. :)" CreationDate="2018-03-16T23:35:52.453" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17099" PostId="8157" Score="3" Text="Your answer mentions hamstring stretching a couple times, which is certainly worthwhile, but the whole chain involved includes calves,  buttocks and back muscles... the OP would be well advised to look for and alleviate any tightness in all those places." CreationDate="2018-03-18T01:56:47.407" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17100" PostId="8158" Score="1" Text="Agreed.  Actually, that is a huge trend in WTF, because competitors will kick according to performance, and not so much utility.  It's quite common to see kickers not using hips as much as they should, and all this talk about pivoting doesn't really apply to them because many will kick vertically upwards and so, there is no weak direction of the pivot direction." CreationDate="2018-03-18T11:51:12.327" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17110" PostId="7275" Score="2" Text="Be cautious with Systema. I personally know a few guys I respect who trained in it and had good things to say but you see Systema videos appear a lot on Bullshido and the FB group &quot;Dumbass Martial arts&quot;" CreationDate="2018-03-23T11:12:00.700" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17113" PostId="8157" Score="0" Text="@TonyD I agree. Hammys are just usually the bottleneck for most people. The other parts of flexibility generally come from just drilling." CreationDate="2018-03-23T14:17:14.177" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17115" PostId="7275" Score="0" Text="@Wudang My teacher used to sell videos out of financial necessity, but always made the point you can't really learn the arts from reading books or watching videos.  You attain degrees of mastery the same way you get to Carnegie Hall: &quot;practice, practice, practice!&quot;. But I am interested in Systema b/c those Spetznaz guys are no joke, and the description is reminiscent of Wudang fundamentals with a Jeet Kun Do filter. I suspect the lack of forms/katas is part of the reason this compelling Russian it is still so opaque to outsiders." CreationDate="2018-03-23T19:50:27.713" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17116" PostId="8168" Score="1" Text="It's very good that you have included a source. The source, however, does not actually say anything about cartilage; that's in the introduction and covered by other research. This paper basically says that sitting in seiza cuts off the blood flow to your legs and reduces your ability to distinguish sensations and balance, albeit only temporarily." CreationDate="2018-03-27T21:29:52.457" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17117" PostId="8169" Score="0" Text="You have three questions in there. Which one do you want answering here and which are are better asked as separate questions?" CreationDate="2018-03-28T14:26:55.330" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17118" PostId="8169" Score="1" Text="Sardathrion: Let's reduce this to 1 question: I practice Tai Chi (Yang style--short and long form) at an intermediate level. I enjoy it, but have recently wanted to explore a martial art form that still stresses economy/fluidness of movement, is well suited for an older adult (60's/good health), but has a greater emphasis on not-too-demanding strikes, blocks, locks and learning to fall properly.I would like to pick up some practical self-defense techniques in the near(er) term (and Aikido classes are not offered nearby). Hapkido, is. Would this martial arts form be a good choice?" CreationDate="2018-03-28T21:43:18.487" UserId="9162" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17119" PostId="8169" Score="1" Text="Could you edit your question to include the above comment? That would be a nice focused question. Thank you for taking the time to make your question better." CreationDate="2018-03-29T08:09:51.637" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17120" PostId="8169" Score="0" Text="Would Hapkido serve as a good martial arts form to explore for an older adult (middle 60's) wishing to learn different types of locks, blocks, strikes, falling techniques that seem less strenuous and offensive than karate and martial arts forms similar to it? If it helps as a baseline, I have a Tai Chi background and enjoy its fluid form and emphasis in economy of movement." CreationDate="2018-03-29T14:28:47.783" UserId="9162" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17125" PostId="8169" Score="0" Text="We are not a forum but a Q&amp;A site. Please see the [help] to see how we work." CreationDate="2018-03-30T05:35:12.593" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17127" PostId="7394" Score="0" Text="@pojo-guy what does &quot;Hea katto no jutsu&quot; mean?" CreationDate="2018-03-30T21:01:08.367" UserId="6396" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17128" PostId="7394" Score="0" Text="Martial arts joke - the fighting art of cutting hair" CreationDate="2018-03-30T22:39:50.817" UserId="6599" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17129" PostId="8169" Score="0" Text="Sardathrion: I did read through the Help Center entry on &quot;subjective questions&quot;--assuming this is your concern about this question. (If not, please let me know.) I think my last rewrite serves as and acceptable question that (for the most part) can be quantifiable. Still, in the spirit of learning and collaboration, I will try this again and see if it falls closer to how you (and others) feel a constructive question should be written in this venue. Best, Charles." CreationDate="2018-03-31T15:18:09.150" UserId="9162" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17130" PostId="8173" Score="2" Text="Kung fu does not specifically refer to martial arts, though that connotation is very strong in popular culture. A classic non-martial use of the term refers to the [traditional tea ceremony](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gongfu_tea_ceremony), and masters of calligraphy have long been described as having good kung fu. I otherwise agree with you on its general use to describe martial arts." CreationDate="2018-04-01T06:56:19.497" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17131" PostId="8172" Score="5" Text="Many things can be used as a weapon, and you should never rely on your weapon for long. I think it is quite obvious that many laws of physics and material dynamics are being broken in that fight sequence, so consider it to be for entertainment purposes and not historically accurate." CreationDate="2018-04-01T09:41:47.980" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17132" PostId="8169" Score="0" Text="Please **edit the question!** to reflect what you want answering." CreationDate="2018-04-01T09:53:26.493" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17133" PostId="8173" Score="0" Text="So it depends on the movie actor or teacher. It's like joining a club called &quot;Japanese martial art&quot; and not knowing if you're going to be taught karate, judo or aikido - weird." CreationDate="2018-04-01T13:22:18.440" UserId="1463" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17135" PostId="4743" Score="3" Text="Possible duplicate of [Solo martial art learning](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/3129/solo-martial-art-learning)" CreationDate="2018-04-01T19:54:34.063" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17136" PostId="8175" Score="2" Text="Welcome to Martial Arts! Please just note if you want to promote or recommend your own product/blog, there are some [guidelines in place](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help/promotion) for doing so. Following them will help you avoid giving the impression that you're spamming. Could you please [edit] to explicitly state your affiliation? Thanks. (If you're not actually affiliated, it may be worth mentioning that as well.)" CreationDate="2018-04-02T06:48:51.860" UserId="9008" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17137" PostId="8176" Score="4" Text="Hello, welcome to Martial Arts! Please just note if you want to promote or recommend your own product/blog, there are some [guidelines in place](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help/promotion) for doing so. Following them will help you avoid giving the impression that you're spamming. Could you please [edit] to explicitly state your affiliation? Thanks. (If you're not actually affiliated, it may be worth mentioning that as well.)" CreationDate="2018-04-02T06:58:54.803" UserId="6377" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17138" PostId="8174" Score="1" Text="Hello, welcome to Martial Arts! Please just note if you want to promote or recommend your own product/blog, there are some [guidelines in place](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help/promotion) for doing so. Following them will help you avoid giving the impression that you're spamming. Could you please [edit] to explicitly state your affiliation? Thanks. (If you're not actually affiliated, it may be worth mentioning that as well.)" CreationDate="2018-04-02T06:59:19.463" UserId="6377" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17139" PostId="8173" Score="0" Text="@WaterBearer - the kung fu gyms in my area generally specify their respective styles somewhere in their name. &quot;Wing Chun Kung Fu Academy&quot; and so on. Those that don't usually list the names of the styles that are taught on their website/front door. As gym space is expensive in metropolitan areas, it's not unusual for different teachers to group up and share a gym, so the name on the door can be a little bit more generic (but they'll still list all the styles somewhere)." CreationDate="2018-04-02T15:26:18.590" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17140" PostId="8173" Score="0" Text="@Dungarth I think we are actually in perfect agreement, though my wording should have been better. See if the new edited wording is better." CreationDate="2018-04-02T22:32:45.117" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17141" PostId="8173" Score="0" Text="@WaterBearer It's like joining a club that says karate, but not knowing whether it's a Goju-Ryu, Uechi-Ryu, Shotokan, Kyokushin, or actually a Tae Kwon Do club that uses the word karate because people know the word from the movie &quot;The Karate Kid&quot; but not TKD [I have seen such a place]. Most people cannot tell the difference between any of these martial arts; &quot;kung fu&quot; is the appropriate level of detail for this audience." CreationDate="2018-04-02T22:43:10.410" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17142" PostId="2235" Score="0" Text="I've run across almost the same issue with people &quot;teaching&quot; motocross on youtube. Some say stand with legs slightly bent, some say stand with legs straight. And then - someone said &quot;Legs straight but not locked&quot;. And this is the key. it's ok to punch with a straight arm, but it's not ok for the arm to stop by hitting the joints' mechanical limits. Standing on a straight leg is fine, on a locked leg is not." CreationDate="2018-04-03T15:18:06.760" UserId="8536" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17143" PostId="4861" Score="0" Text="Muay Thai has a surprisingly rich system of fighting in the clinch -including take downs which are allowed in the sport within certain parameters. It certainly has something to offer against an opponent grappling from the waist up, though nothing specific against a shoot for a double/single leg take down and no ground fighting." CreationDate="2018-04-03T15:25:56.887" UserId="8536" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17144" PostId="8172" Score="0" Text="No. You have baseball bats attached to your legs (shins) and clubs on your arms. I'll take those over a wet cloth any day. You might be able to beat up a complete dummy with a wet cloth, but at that point you could use anything." CreationDate="2018-04-03T15:47:16.227" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17145" PostId="8181" Score="1" Text="Please do not [cross post](https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/64068/is-cross-posting-a-question-on-multiple-stack-exchange-sites-permitted-if-the-qu). I personally would expect you get better answers on martial arts than philosphy." CreationDate="2018-04-03T20:26:44.803" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17146" PostId="8181" Score="0" Text="My apologies. I did not know if this question would be allowed to post on this forum. I can delete it from the philosophy page if it will stay on here." CreationDate="2018-04-03T20:45:39.477" UserId="7936" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17147" PostId="40" Score="0" Text="Related study made about table tennis players: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/308569152_The_effect_of_the_training_with_recessive_hand_on_the_hitting_rercentage_of_shots_performed_with_the_dominant_hand_for_table_tennis_players" CreationDate="2018-04-04T04:48:02.710" UserId="6321" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17148" PostId="8182" Score="0" Text="Thank you for the information. Can you recommend a resource that explores their differing views? I know that a split developed in Korea, heightened by geography, between their two viewpoints and was trying to find more information regarding the chi and Li differences. I have also read a little about Yi Hwang and the 4 beginnings/7 emotions, and that Yi I urged the creation of a standing army in face of the threat from Japan and wondered what they each thought of the other’s ideas.  Thanks again for your input!" CreationDate="2018-04-04T11:20:52.233" UserId="7936" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17149" PostId="8182" Score="1" Text="@ksp08 That gets a little away from TKD and more onto Korean History, in the wikipedia links in the answer there are lists of their more famous literary works - I imagine those are the place to really understand their thinking. I am struggling to find any directly translated into English (though there are some Korean/American takes on YulGok in English which may be worth a read). Note also with the main 24 patterns that the inspiration is from General Choi's view of Korean History (influenced by the other pioneers) - books by those (Bok Man Kim recently released one) may be worth reading also" CreationDate="2018-04-04T11:53:04.600" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17150" PostId="8181" Score="2" Text="If you can handle the commitment, I recommend visiting Kukkiwon, the headquarters for the body of the style that is adopted by WTF / Olympic Taekwondo.  There, they not only have libraries, and a training hall for anyone to train at, but, the instructors there are known to be very helpful to researchers looking for information that currently is only available in Korean.  And that, I think, may be your problem: there isn't much out there that you can read, and they can help." CreationDate="2018-04-04T12:06:02.130" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17151" PostId="8181" Score="1" Text="Perhaps secondary to a Korea visit would be a visit to New York City, and visit the NYC public library; or the Library of Congress in Washington DC.  In the latter, you won't have access to many of the archives there, you'll need to be a registered researcher, and that is out of my area of expertise to guide you.  But, they are good resources for questions like this." CreationDate="2018-04-04T12:08:40.977" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17152" PostId="8181" Score="1" Text="Thank-you for the suggestions. While all of those trips would be amazing, they probably do exceed the limits of my interest in this subject! :) But I think you’re correct in that I have yet to find much “Korean Neo-Confucianism for Dummies” level information, in English, on these men. One resource I have found that is manageable for TKD students is Stuart Anslow’s “From Creation to Unification” history text. Highly recommend!" CreationDate="2018-04-04T13:58:31.937" UserId="7936" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17153" PostId="8182" Score="0" Text="Thank you, @Collett89. I will look for the Bok Man Kim book. :)" CreationDate="2018-04-04T14:01:48.223" UserId="7936" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17154" PostId="8182" Score="0" Text="@ksp08 having had a quick amazon for the Bok Man Kim book it looks like a nice book for any ITF practitioner but not actually containing as much history as I hoped. I will have a scour around for books by other pioneers soon - I just happened to be at a championships with Bok Man Kim last year where his book was discussed (and signed if you had a copy). I have not had a chance to look through Rhee KH's &quot;This is Taekwondo&quot; (they ran out of copies when I went to see him) - but it looks like a manual. I'll have too much ITF memorabilia before long" CreationDate="2018-04-04T14:39:50.890" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17155" PostId="8182" Score="0" Text="thank you very much for checking. I was just asked the other night by an adult color belt and I told him the basic stuff and the little bit extra I’ve found and that philosophy just wasn’t my area. I was hoping to be able to expand my answer a little bit more. That’s neat that you have a collection. If you don’t mind me asking, ma’am, what Dan rank do you hold?" CreationDate="2018-04-04T15:28:51.250" UserId="7936" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17156" PostId="40" Score="0" Text="In soccer, players are encouraged to use both feet equally to maximize their game." CreationDate="2018-04-04T16:02:41.203" UserId="9180" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17161" PostId="8187" Score="1" Text="I am familiar with snake creeps down and single whip, but I do not understand what this means: &quot;is it possible to open such a wide posture in order to bend the left foot almost straight ahead when squating the right one?&quot; You are having trouble with the snake creeps down movement? I assume your right knee is uncomfortable, but at what point?" CreationDate="2018-04-05T14:28:51.643" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17164" PostId="8171" Score="0" Text="&quot;Kung Fu&quot; can be translated as &quot;martial art&quot; - so all of them are." CreationDate="2018-04-05T23:06:38.687" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17167" PostId="8182" Score="0" Text="@ksp08 Currently a III Dan, I am just blessed with being able to train with a Grand Master and several other highly regarded (at least in the UK) high grades on a regular basis (I am also married to a III Dan - so train more than any other sane person)" CreationDate="2018-04-06T06:51:12.190" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17168" PostId="8185" Score="0" Text="I do not think this is a duplicate but I can see how it looks like one. OP, can you expend on whether it is a duplicate or if not, update it so it is clearly not one." CreationDate="2018-04-06T07:57:45.187" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17170" PostId="4686" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand Assuming JKD spin kick is shot with fully extended leg, does not that destroy one's balance?" CreationDate="2018-04-07T20:38:44.530" UserId="4367" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17172" PostId="8198" Score="2" Text="Please define your acronyms: RPE, OA, RA" CreationDate="2018-04-07T21:07:33.447" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17173" PostId="4686" Score="0" Text="@JasonStack Yes and no. Most people who get really good at kicks in general (TKD / Muay Thai) know how to recover when the kick doesn't land (opponent parries). They don't just end up falling because they over-extended themselves. Where people get in trouble is when they throw caution to the wind and don't hold a little back in order to be able to recover if a kick goes wrong. That happens when people get sloppy." CreationDate="2018-04-08T00:37:20.487" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17175" PostId="8197" Score="0" Text="I think regarding self-defence the best way to deal with a sports boxer is a kick between the legs. Boxers think from the waistline upwards when doing boxing only. It's just not part of their game. If it's a decent kickboxer or anything the like, I fully agree with trying to get into takedowns and ground game. Few people will ever get into a fight with a well-rounded fighter knowing all three distances. They just scream &quot;DON'T&quot; by their very presence." CreationDate="2018-04-09T11:10:30.890" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17176" PostId="5778" Score="0" Text="I had that happen when my Sensei sparred with me and he was quick. He punched and I thought,&quot;Wow, that's slow.&quot; and I blocked the punch. I could see on his face that he was surprised as well. Wish I could walk that path all the time." CreationDate="2016-11-05T23:40:36.390" UserId="7663" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17177" PostId="8197" Score="0" Text="I agree with that, Philip. It's just that you can't really get a good kick when you're in close. In other words, you need a backup plan when things go wrong, and you find he's now close enough to kiss you. That's when take-downs come into play. The low-line kicks are your bread and butter from the long and mid range, though." CreationDate="2018-04-09T18:23:51.980" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17178" PostId="7986" Score="0" Text="The problem may have originated from you being too aggressive (I know - Krav Maga. It's supposed to be aggressive and viscous). I have a similar problem with on of the guys in my mma gym now. I sparred him a couple of times, and probably went a little too hard on him, and now he doesn't even put a good fight. I could see the same thing with myself at the beginning. Just a side-note as to where this could come from. Simple mental domination. Makes you feel good, but takes away potential sparring partner, and changes him into a heavy bag." CreationDate="2018-04-09T21:36:27.653" UserId="8701" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17180" PostId="8188" Score="0" Text="You have understood perfectly my question. My right knee is not confortable for such challenging postures and I will try to find out some good exercises to train the knees." CreationDate="2018-04-10T05:28:20.843" UserId="9178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17181" PostId="8200" Score="5" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is not martial arts related." CreationDate="2018-04-10T15:13:20.247" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17182" PostId="8200" Score="1" Text="Well, Ranger Walker did a running jump sidekick thru the windshield of an evildoer's car in one episode, forcing it to stop." CreationDate="2018-04-10T16:55:36.250" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17184" PostId="8200" Score="3" Text="I feel the downvotes are rather harsh. We have had in the past several questions related to fiction which were all well received. I do not thing this one differs from the ones asked before." CreationDate="2018-04-11T12:33:10.287" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17185" PostId="6415" Score="0" Text="Another thing to consider is the opponents those guys fought. Prince Naseem (who was mentioned in your quote), for example, notoriously only fought cans. When you have a big time trainer and manager you get set up for a lot of easier wins, and take less damage than the guys going to war with fighters on their level." CreationDate="2018-04-11T15:30:34.697" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17186" PostId="8200" Score="1" Text="It's a book. He can be a god. Have him wait for the car to come, then plant his hands on the hood while diving, then push off and do a front hand-spring off of the hood, turning it into a somersault over the car. Why not? He'll land in a perfect Wing Chun stance. Haha. Oh, and why not also dodge bullets as they pass through the hood as he is somersaulting over the hood? He would have to see them drawing their guns through the windshield and then adjust in mid-air." CreationDate="2018-04-11T15:36:55.910" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17187" PostId="8200" Score="1" Text="My guess is that the OP is asking for realism, hence the ask here.  Asking in another forum is less likely to yield a proper answer, and more likely to yield &quot;god&quot; answers.  IMO" CreationDate="2018-04-11T20:24:50.677" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17188" PostId="3059" Score="1" Text="You are wrong about the highest belt one can reach in JUDO.  It is literally 10th Dan.  The founder of judo was given a 12 to signify no one surpasses the founder.  In this way the founder of the art will outrank all.  Judo was the first art to use a colored belt system .  No other art had belts before judo." CreationDate="2018-04-11T21:27:25.960" UserId="8964" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17189" PostId="8204" Score="2" Text="First thing to realize is that there's no official support by the government or the armed forces for any particular martial art. Most branches of the military have their own brand of hand-to-hand combat training. You can find pictures and videos of U.S. military training in Taekwondo, Judo, karate, and even ninjutsu. Who cares? It's just what one small, local group decided to do. It should not imply effectiveness or a preference for any particular martial art." CreationDate="2018-04-12T03:35:56.527" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17191" PostId="6415" Score="0" Text="Just to add some details about Ingle style, I hear many saying it could be done Only by Hamed, even though only one man made several men world class boxers.&#xA;But many of the trainers out there do not get to make even one a world class boxer. SO I assure that his style is superior. Of course Hamed was special, but his style can be mastered at the certain level like textbook boxing is." CreationDate="2018-04-10T21:13:39.367" UserId="9200" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17192" PostId="8208" Score="2" Text="Well our high jumpers can &quot;comfortably&quot; clear 2m, so a well timed jump and they &quot;could&quot; clear most vehicles (provided the vehicle were moving quickly enough) - there are many examples of people jumping over a vehicle - Just not sure its something ever practised/taught in a martial art or self defence" CreationDate="2018-04-12T14:32:10.623" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17194" PostId="8206" Score="0" Text="I'm specifically looking for a TKD form/poomsae. But references to similar techniques in other MAs would be fun to read." CreationDate="2018-04-13T08:26:15.933" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17195" PostId="7746" Score="0" Text="You did not answer the question.  The OP is well aware of the association to i ching; what was asked was whether dojangs apply those concepts." CreationDate="2018-04-13T10:48:06.200" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17196" PostId="8210" Score="4" Text="Possible duplicate of [How to select the right Aikido dojo](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/80/how-to-select-the-right-aikido-dojo)" CreationDate="2018-04-13T11:43:46.453" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17197" PostId="8207" Score="0" Text="&quot;While my training doesn't cover such things, for the sake of offering something to write I'll list what comes to mind.&quot; Why answer at all if you, by your own admission, have no semblance of authority?" CreationDate="2018-04-13T12:55:01.810" UserId="6032" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17200" PostId="8207" Score="2" Text="@LastStar007: because the question being asked here suggests an interest in what a martial artist might instinctively try in such a circumstance, regardless of how effective it would actually be.  I have some authority on the way some martial artists may instinctively seek to minimise damage and leap/roll past obstacles, even if it's not specific to cars." CreationDate="2018-04-13T16:43:36.180" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17201" PostId="8206" Score="0" Text="Include the name of the form, and I can comment on it." CreationDate="2018-04-13T18:54:42.960" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17202" PostId="8206" Score="0" Text="I don’t know the name of the form, that’s what I would like to know. I’m not even sure if what I was told is true, and there isn’t one." CreationDate="2018-04-13T19:00:32.563" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17203" PostId="4605" Score="0" Text="If you listen to any of the athletic performance arts none of their answers will Work later on in your old age. So listen to them now only understand you are back to nothing when you reach 88 or older.  What the youngsters are saying is that Martial arts is a hoax when you are not in top athletic shape." CreationDate="2018-04-13T23:19:06.153" UserId="8964" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17204" PostId="8210" Score="0" Text="I believe with substantial differences between Aikido and Krav Maga, this question is by no means a duplicate." CreationDate="2018-04-14T08:11:22.310" UserId="9196" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17205" PostId="8210" Score="0" Text="Most of the answers there are applicable here, thus it is still a duplicate." CreationDate="2018-04-14T11:06:22.700" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17206" PostId="8210" Score="2" Text="Ivo, differences between the arts don't mean that the answer to your question is any different. Personally I think your question is too broad and is aiming for discussion style answers - you can do that in the chat room." CreationDate="2018-04-14T12:59:16.963" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17207" PostId="8210" Score="0" Text="With Krav being less formalized and primarily meant to teach practical application (which is not the case for e.g. Aikido), there are huge differences in what you WANT from the school, thus there are huge differences in what you should pay attention to." CreationDate="2018-04-14T13:15:56.497" UserId="9196" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17208" PostId="8210" Score="0" Text="(Furthermore, and this is just a side-note, I agree that the responses are rather general. That's why I think that it doesn't make any sense to to expect someone to pick a Krav school by responses given to the question how one should pick an Aikido school ;) )&#xA;(Of course, points like approachable teachers, no hidden fees etc. are common sense but that's not what I'm looking for.)" CreationDate="2018-04-14T13:18:56.017" UserId="9196" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17209" PostId="8210" Score="0" Text="Updated question to highlight the points discussed in the comments." CreationDate="2018-04-14T13:25:59.227" UserId="9196" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17213" PostId="8215" Score="2" Text="I disagreed with the close vote; on the face of it, this is off-topic (health/medical advice). However, the question is asking if anyone has personal experience of returning to sparring after surgery. I don't believe that is off-topic." CreationDate="2018-04-16T10:12:06.550" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17214" PostId="8216" Score="0" Text="Thank-you for your reply. I am not worried about my instructor- he is very accommodating about injuries and whatever physical he can come up with in place of sparring will be challenging. I would just like to spar.I’m also concerned about how long the recovery time will be before I am able to do forms and kick. Thank you for your answer and  support. Hoping I won’t need surgery or that it can be delayed, but I will definitely follow my doctor’s directions." CreationDate="2018-04-16T11:41:01.047" UserId="7936" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17215" PostId="8216" Score="0" Text="@ksp08 your health should be number 1. Take the recovery seriously - you may be able to do some therapies to speed it along, again consult your doctor - make sure you tell them your aims. Surgery these days is so much better than it used to be and the recovery times much more reasonable - if surgery means you have a few months out but come back without the risk of another hernia - the rest of your life is worth a few months out of training surely?&#xA;As a side note - some of my students have gone away for a while for one reason or another - they are always welcomed back with more love than ever" CreationDate="2018-04-16T11:56:36.263" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17216" PostId="8216" Score="0" Text="Yes, ma’am. Don’t worry— my husband is a surgeon. I won’t be cheating recovery time for kicking. :)" CreationDate="2018-04-16T12:55:12.807" UserId="7936" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17217" PostId="8216" Score="0" Text="@ksp08 - good to hear - although for the second time on this site I have been assumed female.. &#xA;I have seen students put off surgery until after competitions/gradings. I would never recommend this, there will always be another competition/grading and the sooner you are recovered the sooner you can get back up to full speed/fitness. A friend of mine put off surgery (shoulder) because of an international - said shoulder dislocated mid punch in his final - awful to see - he got the surgery very soon after that.." CreationDate="2018-04-16T13:24:49.817" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17218" PostId="8216" Score="0" Text="– yes, sir— my apologies on the name!" CreationDate="2018-04-16T16:01:57.627" UserId="7936" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17219" PostId="8219" Score="3" Text="Yes, let it go. There is someone in my class I do not wish to spar/train with, for a very good reason, and it would be very uncomfortable for him to keep asking me again and again." CreationDate="2018-04-17T09:07:54.030" UserId="9209" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17220" PostId="33" Score="0" Text="In addtion to the answers here, it might be wise to discuss a 'faint signal', something that happens when someone loses consciousness. An example would be raising a hand or arm while being choked, which falls to the ground when losing consciousness (which is your signal to let go immediately)." CreationDate="2018-04-17T09:36:07.670" UserId="1353" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17221" PostId="8219" Score="4" Text="Definitely let it go. There was a guy in my class I asked him to &quot;take it easy&quot;, he didn't, I felt ok after training but the next day I saw my elbow was injured. I dont particularly want to say anything to him, but I avoid him from that point on. It's my right to avoid someone. If youre on the receiving end of it, you most probably have done something at some point, so just accept it and move on." CreationDate="2018-04-17T09:51:51.520" UserId="9210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17222" PostId="4292" Score="0" Text="@user1972 Also worth noting that at least in the US, knives are considered deadly force, and thus can only be used to respond to deadly force against you. IANAL." CreationDate="2018-04-17T12:10:54.613" UserId="6032" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17223" PostId="4299" Score="0" Text="Emphasis on the *may* in &quot;may protect&quot;. If your legal defense has the slightest hole, you'll have pleaded guilty to homicide.&#xA;&#xA;The flashlight has the additional benefit of having a legitimate use outside hurting people, and thus appearing more as an improvised weapon." CreationDate="2018-04-17T12:13:17.083" UserId="6032" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17224" PostId="8218" Score="0" Text="Are you better than him? Do you tap him constantly and then have to let him work? Wondering if this could be an ego thing." CreationDate="2018-04-17T14:18:58.563" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17226" PostId="8221" Score="0" Text="I'm not sure you meant this, but I just want to say that &quot;going light&quot; is not necessarily a bad thing. That just means not using your muscle to power through techniques. On the contrary, it can impede progress to try powering through stuff. I wrote about this here: https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/6001/to-prevent-injuries-how-do-you-discourage-people-from-using-excessive-force/6008#6008" CreationDate="2018-04-17T15:11:40.987" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17227" PostId="8218" Score="0" Text="I agree with Sardathrion's answer. But I thought my answer at the following link might also be constructive (not that I think you're bullying anyone, just a tangential comment on &quot;going light&quot; vs. &quot;powering through&quot;)... https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/6001/to-prevent-injuries-how-do-you-discourage-people-from-using-excessive-force/6008#6008" CreationDate="2018-04-17T15:13:51.573" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17228" PostId="8219" Score="0" Text="@vikingsteve It might even be that the sparring partner is worried about their *own* control, and projects it onto the OP.  After all, the &quot;same grade, same weight&quot; and &quot;I roll normally with lighter partners and lower belts&quot; comments put in an implication of &quot;I can be more forceful if I'm rolling with him&quot;, but rolling with people at lower grades/weights (or higher, for opposite reasons!) carries an automatic psychological consideration of &quot;I need to be careful here&quot; that makes them feel more in-check." CreationDate="2018-04-17T15:15:04.680" UserId="9212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17229" PostId="8221" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand I agree to an extent, but it really depends what your goals are. I train at an MMA gym, so many guys are often training for fights, submission grappling tournaments, or professional submission grappling events. You can't just waltz into a competition without having pushed yourself to the limit. I can always tell in a grappling tournament the guys that are not prepared for the intensity of a live match. They get absolutely man handled." CreationDate="2018-04-17T15:44:00.950" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17230" PostId="4299" Score="0" Text="Self-defense indeed an affirmative defense, akin to &quot;guilty but permitted because necessary.&quot; OTOH, castle doctrine makes home defense a special case with greater leeway and likelihood of success. Not sure an improvised weapon (flashlight, baseball bat, heavy pipe) incrementally beneficial before the law. But...maybe. Practically speaking, appearance does count." CreationDate="2018-04-18T00:37:19.193" UserId="562" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17232" PostId="8185" Score="0" Text="It's the same as learning a new language. Of course you can look up for every information, but if you do a technique wrong, noone will make you understand that you are doing it wrong. Noone that will lead and explain to you why a specific technique helps. Doing all the techniques correctly is important in very many ways! I would suggest you to do a test day at a martial arts school like Taekwondo. It's very funny, healthy sport, big knowledge and also teaches you so many important things you will love to know!" CreationDate="2018-04-18T12:48:04.127" UserId="9218" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17233" PostId="8221" Score="1" Text="That is true. You still need to train with people who are adding power to their movements. No arguments here. There are benefits to both ways of training." CreationDate="2018-04-18T18:29:37.700" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17234" PostId="8222" Score="1" Text="Rule 0: very much so. Well said!" CreationDate="2018-04-19T12:37:37.293" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17235" PostId="8214" Score="0" Text="By the way, are you sure this comes from Sanchin kata? Shotokan karate is the foundation for Taekwondo. I didn't think Shotokan had Sanchin kata in it, since that was a Naha Te lineage form, and Shotokan comes from a Shuri Te lineage. Also, the way the two palms come to both hips at the same time in the beginning is a little different from Sanchin kata. Just a thought." CreationDate="2018-04-19T15:04:49.687" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17236" PostId="8225" Score="0" Text="[Capoeira does have sport/competitions but it is not wide spread.](https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Capoeira+competition&amp;t=ffab&amp;ia=web)" CreationDate="2018-04-20T06:46:46.423" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17237" PostId="8225" Score="0" Text="While a movie and clearly choreographed [this shows how capoeira could be used in a fight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEbm7D1L_tA)…" CreationDate="2018-04-20T06:49:04.880" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17238" PostId="8226" Score="1" Text="Welcome to the site! I recommend taking a look at the [tour](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour)." CreationDate="2018-04-20T09:25:20.727" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17239" PostId="8226" Score="2" Text="I believe this is off-topic, because it's asking for advice on choosing an art, is opinion-based, and is (relatively) localised." CreationDate="2018-04-20T09:26:28.117" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17240" PostId="8226" Score="0" Text="how can it be off topic? I've given my medical and physical condition. All I needed is what to opt? So, asking for an advice is off topic. If its then this platform is useless which thinks advising someone is off topic." CreationDate="2018-04-20T09:32:26.747" UserDisplayName="user9224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17241" PostId="8226" Score="0" Text="@pradeepTuran007 What are your goals? What are you looking to get out of martial arts?" CreationDate="2018-04-20T09:41:41.427" UserId="6032" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17242" PostId="8226" Score="0" Text="@pradeepTuran007 And yes, Stack Exchange is in general useless, not only for the reason you described." CreationDate="2018-04-20T09:42:20.480" UserId="6032" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17243" PostId="8225" Score="0" Text="To be honest.. I am not sure if this will be helpful against other fighters. As far as I saw from different Capoeria sources, the style is based on suprise attacks which can work.. but also can not work and at this point it's kind of a gamble. I don't know the % for succeeding, but other martial arts concentrate more on defense and conter first. Distance control is a important thing in most arts. Holding a respectable distance and waiting for a opportunity while the Capoeira is performing his thing, should be a valid tactic. Similiar to the movie you shown where he just uses the opportunity :)" CreationDate="2018-04-20T09:44:52.830" UserId="9218" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17244" PostId="8226" Score="1" Text="Please take a look at the [tour](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour) and at the [help page](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic) about on-topic questions." CreationDate="2018-04-20T09:47:45.150" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17245" PostId="8226" Score="0" Text="@LastStar007 The only goal is to be in Army. Learning martial art will be plus point in my selection. If I couldn't make it out, I've a backup plan to be Martial Arts trainer and train women in self defense tactics:)" CreationDate="2018-04-20T09:50:21.150" UserDisplayName="user9224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17247" PostId="8226" Score="0" Text="Please read [A good martial art recommendation question guidelines](https://martialarts.meta.stackexchange.com/q/506/82)." CreationDate="2018-04-20T12:45:53.533" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17248" PostId="8226" Score="0" Text="@Collett89 He literally just said what he wants to get out of martial art." CreationDate="2018-04-20T12:48:57.287" UserId="6032" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17249" PostId="8228" Score="1" Text="Thank you for the long write. It goes to the point being asked and shows an informed opinion." CreationDate="2018-04-20T12:54:23.510" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17250" PostId="8226" Score="3" Text="yes, pradeepTuran007, asking for advice is off-topic.  That is because the Q&amp;A that results can only benefit one person in the world: you.  that lessens the effectiveness of this site.  Think of it this way: suppose we all agreed on the perfectest martial art for you to take.  What happens when it isn't offered in your area?  What if the instructor is a jerk?  What if you can't afford it?  The reality is that there can be no agreed upon answer, therefore, your question is unhelpful to you, and to the rest of the world who also wants a recommendation." CreationDate="2018-04-20T13:57:00.267" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17251" PostId="8227" Score="1" Text="Why recommend something that might not be available to the OP?  How can you recommend a school without knowing the instructor's qualifications?  Or cost?  Or class schedule?  The OP admitted a health issue; why recommend anything while not knowing his health history?" CreationDate="2018-04-20T15:03:02.113" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17252" PostId="8227" Score="0" Text="Because he tagged Krav Maga. I inferred it was an option since he tagged it. You will notice that I didn't recommend a school, only an art." CreationDate="2018-04-20T15:23:14.213" UserId="6032" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17253" PostId="8227" Score="0" Text="Yes, but also tagged kung fu.  That's not a style, it's a family of styles.  Tai chi also isn't commonly seen today as a MA.  Bottom line, we cannot recommend.  There's no context, no information provided, no details, nothing.  That's like asking: what should I drive (Subaru, Freightliner, or BMX)." CreationDate="2018-04-20T15:30:27.253" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17258" PostId="8227" Score="1" Text="Please do not bicker in comments. If you wish to discuss the merits of an answer, please do so in chat." CreationDate="2018-04-20T20:58:34.073" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17259" PostId="8226" Score="1" Text="@Wigwam - Not quite, but close. The FAQ states &quot;Evaluating and choosing martial arts given specific criteria (e.g. grappling, high kicks, self-defense, etc.)&quot;. We can recommend an art *when given the criteria to do so*. This question is rightly closed, although I would have chosen too broad rather than opinion, but that's apples/oranges. There is just nothing here to go on other than &quot;Wanna learn martial something&quot;." CreationDate="2018-04-20T21:35:58.190" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17260" PostId="8230" Score="0" Text="I would add muscle soreness and pain to your list." CreationDate="2018-04-21T09:55:44.640" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17261" PostId="8230" Score="0" Text="Not too much really. That comes if I start after a break but it dissipates if I take it slow (but don't stop) for a few days. These other things stay for months (or atleast weeks)." CreationDate="2018-04-21T19:44:37.453" UserId="1965" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17262" PostId="8231" Score="4" Text="This is a gloriously informative answer. I need a day to digest it properly. I will post back a few additional queries I have here. Thank you so much!" CreationDate="2018-04-21T19:49:23.097" UserId="1965" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17263" PostId="8226" Score="0" Text="The best option what I found is starting with boxing, then after developing good skills can move to Muay Thai(if fractured leg doesn't create problem) or Krav Maga." CreationDate="2018-04-22T17:17:58.930" UserDisplayName="user9224" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17264" PostId="8233" Score="0" Text="aight thanks for the info. i'll try breathing practices and meditation and will be consulting this stack often. thank you!" CreationDate="2018-04-23T08:48:25.303" UserId="9229" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17265" PostId="8228" Score="0" Text="@DanielReis: Is there anything else I can provide to make a better answer? I have a few people I can talk to (my former mestre in Philadelphia, a couple online contacts) and I have access to a few books on Capoeira history and legend, but I want to ensure I'm answering the right questions." CreationDate="2018-04-23T12:12:00.460" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17266" PostId="8228" Score="0" Text="You're answering my question, and I'm happy with it. Adding some references would surely make it even better." CreationDate="2018-04-23T13:33:29.250" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17267" PostId="8234" Score="0" Text="Sobering realisation but I'm really looking for practical tips to prevent this from happening." CreationDate="2018-04-24T14:43:50.697" UserId="1965" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17268" PostId="8235" Score="1" Text="A large number of martial arts only use staffs holding them at one end, including the Japanese styles. It maximizes the power of the 3rd-class lever and helps keep opponents at a distance." CreationDate="2018-04-25T03:09:22.307" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17269" PostId="8234" Score="0" Text="@NoufalIbrahim The practical tip is **be careful**, anything else is just a paraphrase." CreationDate="2018-04-25T07:20:47.830" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17270" PostId="8237" Score="0" Text="The question is asking about a sword with hooks, not rings, and whether this sword is similar to one with rings. It is not asking for an explanation of the rings." CreationDate="2018-04-25T19:18:05.853" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17272" PostId="8238" Score="0" Text="Insights from other martial arts are welcome, but it's probably best to focus on Taekwondo and Karate, as the trend is older than TKD. I'm that a too broad question may become too subjective and be downvoted by moderators." CreationDate="2018-04-25T21:54:17.027" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17273" PostId="7636" Score="1" Text="UPDATE: yes, I talked to my instructor, and he advised me a wrist HR sensor. I got one, use it 24h, wear an elastic band over it during trainings, and am very happy with that choice." CreationDate="2018-04-25T22:17:27.773" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17274" PostId="8238" Score="4" Text="What do you mean by effective? The majority of the benefits of martial arts are not related to doing damage to another human." CreationDate="2018-04-26T07:30:33.160" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17275" PostId="8238" Score="1" Text="Effective as is quickly being able neutralizing an opponent, usually by disabling or killing. That's the starting point for martial arts, right?" CreationDate="2018-04-26T07:42:23.207" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17276" PostId="8242" Score="0" Text="For someone practicing kicks a lot (like any Taekwondo-in), in a stressful personal defense situation, where evading the situation was not possible, the most natural move is a front is roundhouse kick to the middle section. If the attacker is expecting this response, getting a let grabbed might not be hard." CreationDate="2018-04-26T08:26:15.740" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17277" PostId="8242" Score="1" Text="@DanielReis I train TKD 5 days a week - my natural instincts now are hard to gauge - I am quick to kick a leg joint and strike the neck/face in training - the one time I was assaulted since starting my training - I blocked their swinging arm and broke their nose with a straight punch - my training had put me into a solid stance meaning  the punch was damaging enough to end the confrontation - I never even tried to kick.&#xA;Train out of this middle section kicking - kick to a target instead - get good at picking one out." CreationDate="2018-04-26T09:19:05.587" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17279" PostId="8238" Score="1" Text="@Collett89 Just because there are some additional benefits of martial arts doesn't take away from the original purpose. Martial arts are for fighting. A martial art's effectiveness can be proven by its success in fights. To say something like, &quot;yoga is an effective martial art because it helps one to become calm and centered&quot; completely waters down the definition." CreationDate="2018-04-26T15:04:43.570" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17280" PostId="8230" Score="0" Text="medical advice is explicitly out of scope for this stack exchange." CreationDate="2018-04-27T10:01:19.767" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17281" PostId="8230" Score="0" Text="@MarkC.Wallace That's understandable. My question was more of, what are best practices I should follow to mitigate the chances of these happening and if they do, what are best practices for first aid." CreationDate="2018-04-27T10:58:50.573" UserId="1965" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17282" PostId="8244" Score="0" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is not related to Martial Arts." CreationDate="2018-04-27T14:15:28.767" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17283" PostId="8244" Score="1" Text="@coinbird - I think this falls into a bit of a gray area - the first bullet in our FAQ on questions is *Characteristics, regimens, history, and culture of martial arts systems worldwide*. One could argue that this is part of the culture of JKD, as it is part of the philosophy of the founder. If you disagree, maybe this is a question we should look at on meta to determine if it is acceptable or not." CreationDate="2018-04-27T14:45:28.453" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17284" PostId="8244" Score="0" Text="@JohnP We absolutely should. Opening the page to questions about the sources of quotes from martial artists invites a lot of nonsense. &quot;Hey guys, when did Chuck Liddell say &quot;I'll fight somebody in my backyard for free, just to see if I'm better than him.&quot;?&quot;" CreationDate="2018-04-27T17:08:17.180" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17285" PostId="8244" Score="0" Text="@coinbird Done, [meta discussion here](https://martialarts.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/536/sourcing-quotes-scope-question). I presented what I thought were the three options, if you think there are others I haven't considered comment and I will add them into the meta." CreationDate="2018-04-27T17:46:24.387" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 3.0" />
  <row Id="17293" PostId="8248" Score="0" Text="There is a lot more to think about than just the weight of the gloves - weight of person wearing them, size of glove, material etc.&#xA;Why not find a local boxing club that will be able to guide you in doing this safely (as well as teaching you how to do it well + get insurance)?" CreationDate="2018-05-03T07:32:39.473" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17294" PostId="8249" Score="0" Text="Add to that the fact that bigger gloves give you a bigger guarding/blocking surface - smaller gloves are easier to sneak through a gap in an opponents guard. That's why some companies sell comically large &quot;sparring&quot; gloves these days (for semi/touch contact martial arts)" CreationDate="2018-05-03T13:10:22.773" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17295" PostId="8249" Score="0" Text="@Collett89: yeah - I did consider that - but it's not a good thing to rely on a big padded glove to keep you safe, as you won't be wearing one when it counts.  Still, as you say may be safer short term when messing  around with friends." CreationDate="2018-05-03T13:11:35.843" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17296" PostId="8249" Score="2" Text="Well precisely - I have seen a number of boxers get punched square in the face when they haven't got their gloves on (even some lighter boxers with smaller gloves).&#xA;It's also worth noting that if you aren't used to holding heavy gloves and guarding/punching for a few rounds they very quickly feel heavy - making you drop your hands and thus very vulnerable (more a word of warning to OP)." CreationDate="2018-05-03T13:19:28.050" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17299" PostId="8249" Score="0" Text="That makes a lot of sense. I was thinking glove weight would significantly increase the weight behind the punch, but you're right that it's not much difference compared to the weight of the puncher's body mass. I did initially object because in terms of momentum (mass x velocity) or energy (mass x velocity squared), a heavier glove does more, but you're right that what matters more is the rate at which that energy transfers. If the glove compresses, that decreases the rapid acceleration of the head. Also found this video of Bas Rutten hitting with/without gloves: https://youtu.be/wRmOOWPTRBs" CreationDate="2018-05-03T17:50:05.257" UserId="9242" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17300" PostId="8249" Score="0" Text="@AlexG The reasons he listed are exactly why it's more dangerous to use larger gloves. Taking some juice off the punch means you can take more punches. A higher volume of weaker punches is far worse for your brain. See my answer for more info, though I urge you to do your own research." CreationDate="2018-05-03T18:45:30.813" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17301" PostId="8246" Score="0" Text="I have a copy of the book and it is indeed on p43, though the information on wikiquote is slightly inaccurate. It is from **Part Two  On Being Human - Concepts (Abstracting)**. (It appears the author of the wikiquote addition mistook the *section* number for the *page* number in the index, as section 43 (Philosophy), p108, is in Part III). The introduction mentions in one section the source of the quotes (albeit vaguely), I will post an answer here with the info as the comment character limit isn't sufficient." CreationDate="2018-05-03T21:14:59.257" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17302" PostId="8246" Score="0" Text="@ukemi - That would be great!" CreationDate="2018-05-03T21:19:39.287" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17303" PostId="8253" Score="3" Text="The site's current tag for falling is the Japanese term ukemi." CreationDate="2018-05-04T01:29:37.353" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17304" PostId="8256" Score="0" Text="Thanks for this. *(Not everyone seems to consider choreography a legit aspect of the arts.  Sure, it's the &quot;fine art&quot; aspect, and has to be modified and translated for the camera, but the best stuff is rooted in real techniques;)*  That second vid showing all the mat work with the Machados is especially nice." CreationDate="2018-05-04T16:10:24.317" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17305" PostId="7275" Score="1" Text="@Wudang: Speaking of Bullshido, the difference between Systema as marketed by Vasiliev/Ryabko and offshoots  (essentially spiritual bullshit) and what Retuinskih developed under the name of Systema originally (which is the practical self-defence curriculum of Combat Sambo, comparable to Gracie Combatives and freaking hardcore) is quite important. See e.g. [this post](https://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=127783&amp;p=2976653&amp;viewfull=1#post2976653). Spetznaz Systema is not what Vasiliev and Ryabko are doing. They market made up stuff after having visited two seminars." CreationDate="2018-05-05T09:53:18.140" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17307" PostId="8249" Score="0" Text="@coinbird: it boils down to how you're training: if - as in the question - it's friendly sparring with mates and an occasional unintentional punch coming through with far more power than intended - as beginners often do - thicker gloves are safer; if you're planning to slog it out hitting each other until someone's clearly lost, or having many-round competitions, that's another beast entirely with different safety factors." CreationDate="2018-05-06T13:47:26.160" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17308" PostId="8249" Score="0" Text="@TonyD Every friendly sparring screw around session with untrained folk always devolves into slogging it out. Controlling your power is something that comes from experience." CreationDate="2018-05-06T20:59:08.647" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17309" PostId="8255" Score="0" Text="Thank you, [basic Judo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsHz8Sx-Buk) is where I should look at, thank you for pointing the way." CreationDate="2018-05-07T12:25:22.837" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17310" PostId="8258" Score="3" Text="Dead link. Also, please don't try to &quot;condition&quot; your knuckles. It provides no benefit and has zero basis in science." CreationDate="2018-05-07T15:11:35.140" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17311" PostId="8260" Score="0" Text="I know it's hard to judge without having video of the relevant techniques, but I hope some answer can still be given." CreationDate="2018-05-07T17:12:16.997" UserId="9248" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17312" PostId="8258" Score="0" Text="I can now open the link.  It is of a bag made out of duct tape.  Presumably, there is rice or mung beans inside." CreationDate="2018-05-07T17:58:29.597" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17313" PostId="7275" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking That could be said of all systems of martial arts. There are many great lineages, and also many people teaching the arts without having studied them sufficiently, or even with a credible teacher.  Some of these unreliable teachers end up franchising, and even out-marketing (outselling) schools with recognized masters." CreationDate="2018-05-07T19:01:57.977" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17315" PostId="8262" Score="0" Text="Yes the video is the type of throw I am referencing. I can imagine if the throw is nice slow I will be able to pull off this landing. I was imagining in a street combat application as well. Would I pull this off in a fight &amp; being on the losing end by being suddenly thrown on concrete? Or am I better with the slap fall? I can slap fall well but some throws are for combat &amp; impact is added to knock the breath out of the victim. I was hoping this option may save the breath from being knocked out of me." CreationDate="2018-05-07T20:44:52.773" UserId="8964" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17316" PostId="8262" Score="1" Text="@Logikal: I would not put my bet on that. As I argued, there are too many insecurities. Especially when you are *not* given the opportunity to transition into a rolling movement. Another factor you should bear in mind: On concrete, one should not actively slap (esp. not as hard as you do on a mat). You rather hold the arm and tension up so that the pressure is distributed over all the surface. Otherwise, your wrist and hand may be subject to injuries. In general, being thrown on concrete and not breaking anything is worth a lot. It will hurt regardless." CreationDate="2018-05-07T20:50:24.007" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17317" PostId="8265" Score="0" Text="So, does the OP need a new attitude or a new dojo? Remember, this is a question and answer forum, not a discussion forum. I think you have a valid point (is the instructor bragging, rambling, or passing on useful information), but it isn't framed as an answer." CreationDate="2018-05-09T15:31:34.513" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17318" PostId="2064" Score="0" Text="Never heard of a wrestling team at high/middle school...could it be country-specific ?" CreationDate="2018-05-09T17:34:50.230" UserId="9253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17319" PostId="8267" Score="2" Text="How are the answers not be &quot;do my art 'cause that's what I do&quot; which are all personal opinions? No one, especially strangers with fake Internet points, decide for you." CreationDate="2018-05-09T18:43:55.123" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17320" PostId="6926" Score="1" Text="Great answer. This part: &quot;MMA training is like a crucible. It burns away the ineffective elements. What remains just works.&quot; really says it all. Nobody magically decided that Kickboxing, Wrestling, and BJJ were the best martial arts. They were just the three that had the most success, because they work!" CreationDate="2018-05-10T14:05:53.947" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17321" PostId="8267" Score="4" Text="From [Meta discussion](https://martialarts.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/501/should-martial-art-recommendations-be-off-topic) I take it that this is a valid question, and &quot;quality control&quot; should rather focus on the answers. I can see answers here to be useful for not-so-young people thinking about MA initiation." CreationDate="2018-05-10T16:42:51.040" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17322" PostId="8267" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion since I was specifically asking about philosophy, also mentioned my age (joint issues) and other things, I didn't think this would be a problem. I was hoping that there would be people here who know about many arts and thus could be objective, given my situation." CreationDate="2018-05-10T16:49:01.270" UserId="9253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17323" PostId="8267" Score="1" Text="My opinion/experience: Karate and Wing Chun would be the least harmful for your joints, and are the most philosophical from the list. Aikido and JuJitsu are known as martial arts with most accidents. MMA and traditional boxing have no philosophic background at all. Muay Thai relies on a very good physical fitness. Tea Kwon Do can also be trained without contact (traditional with breaking tests). Can't tell about chinese kickboxing. I would also add Chen Tai Chi and Baguazhang to your &quot;wishlist&quot;. Hope my suggestions may help you." CreationDate="2018-05-11T10:14:21.407" UserId="9020" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17324" PostId="7274" Score="1" Text="Re: the heart punch - The actual mechanism is related to the depolarization/repolarization of the heart muscle. If a sharp blow is delivered at the same time as the repolarization is occuring, it can disrupt the rhythm and stop the heart. You see this a few times a year in baseball, actually. The technical term is commotio cordis." CreationDate="2018-05-11T14:10:49.883" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17325" PostId="8269" Score="1" Text="It would be nice if you could produce some proof of these claims, especially as they run contrary to all of the answers (Also from trained martial artist's perspectives) that have been posted to date." CreationDate="2018-05-11T14:12:02.337" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17326" PostId="8269" Score="1" Text="Also of interest: https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/18165/can-you-punch-someones-nose-into-their-brain" CreationDate="2018-05-11T14:12:17.187" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17329" PostId="8267" Score="1" Text="With your age and strengths, I'd suggest Capoeira, but it doesn't sound like they offer it where you are." CreationDate="2018-05-12T18:01:12.070" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17330" PostId="8267" Score="3" Text="? Aikido has more accidents? I'm aware of only one scientific study and it didn't show that.  Please support your assertion." CreationDate="2018-05-13T22:20:28.417" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17332" PostId="8216" Score="1" Text="One week out from surgery- walking a lot, doing some slow, low kicks (just in air), walking through forms. So far, so good." CreationDate="2018-05-15T01:46:08.693" UserId="7936" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17333" PostId="8216" Score="0" Text="@ksp08 take it easy and slow - very promising so far :)" CreationDate="2018-05-15T07:40:00.913" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17336" PostId="8267" Score="1" Text="@MarkC.Wallace &quot;The greatest numbers of athletes with major injuries were seen in aikido and tae kwon do, with rates of 28% and 26% respectively. Kung fu (18%) and Shotokan karate (17%) had similar rates of major injuries. Only one subject sustained a major injury (strained neck muscle) in tai chi (7%). &quot; [SOURCE](http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/39/1/29)" CreationDate="2018-05-16T06:59:54.227" UserId="9020" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17337" PostId="8277" Score="0" Text="Not rolling was covered in an answer from three years ago https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/5819/5926 - if this was the main reason - why would they do Octagonal as opposed to Triangular? (which would roll even less). Drawing on references or personal experience are vital in writing a good answer." CreationDate="2018-05-16T07:09:09.600" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17338" PostId="8267" Score="0" Text="Thank you !  Fascinating - the takeaway seems to be contact vs non-contact." CreationDate="2018-05-16T08:27:40.643" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17340" PostId="8267" Score="0" Text="@MarkC.Wallace the same source mentioned by YesThatIsMyName also says *Aikido and Tai chi do not involve participation in tournaments; therefore, these martial artists may be more likely to report injuries. Conversely, martial artists involved in a highly competitive sport such as Olympic-style tae kwon do may be reluctant to admit to injuries for fear of not making a competition team* So, the question is how reliable these results are." CreationDate="2018-05-16T14:34:18.550" UserId="88" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17341" PostId="8277" Score="0" Text="While you are correct in the fact that &quot;not rolling&quot; had been mentioned before, the answer that you linked did not mention it for the same reasons that I did and seemed to over complicate that useful function with the scenario of trying to use the staff as a mobility aid (as a &quot;bridge&quot; or &quot;ladder&quot;).  That is very situational, hence why I felt the need to simplify the great benefit of your staff staying put if dropped.&#xA;A triangle or even a hexagon would likely feel like garbage and really hurt the hands to use in combat.&#xA;Common sense is a more than passable stand in for writing a good answer." CreationDate="2018-05-16T18:24:39.603" UserId="9267" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17354" PostId="8290" Score="0" Text="I practice Taekwondo and my instructor is also a Hapkido Black belt. I’m curious about the Korean term for ukemi." CreationDate="2018-05-19T15:42:04.757" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17355" PostId="8290" Score="0" Text="Maybe nak bop?  Spent a few years studying Hapkido but never cared about the terminology...." CreationDate="2018-05-19T15:49:16.763" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17357" PostId="8291" Score="0" Text="It's the strikes you don't see that knock you out, not the ones you see coming." CreationDate="2018-05-20T17:36:03.700" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17358" PostId="8291" Score="0" Text="So if you're ready for it you can just &quot;prepare&quot; and take them? Like tense some muscles and resist them?" CreationDate="2018-05-20T18:56:25.263" UserId="8701" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17360" PostId="8292" Score="1" Text="You are highly unlikely to find a civilian course that will teach any of this in a way that will stay with you for life. You state you don't want to enter a militia but that might be your only choice - some military special forces do allow civilians to attempt the selection course." CreationDate="2018-05-21T07:12:33.490" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17362" PostId="8291" Score="1" Text="I don't know the exact mechanism (hence I wrote a comment not an answer!), but as I understand it, the preparation is what 'saves' you." CreationDate="2018-05-21T09:27:26.093" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17363" PostId="8291" Score="0" Text="Ok makes sense." CreationDate="2018-05-21T09:28:04.543" UserId="8701" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17364" PostId="8294" Score="1" Text="As a caveat, there's some evidence that the techniques that fighters use to avoid getting knocked out are a strong factor behind their more long-term damage, although it's confounded by the fact that someone who doesn't get knocked out with one blow is going to be getting hit by more of them." CreationDate="2018-05-21T11:54:48.933" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17365" PostId="8215" Score="0" Text="If I answer that I returned in n days, and OP uses that as an anchor and gets injured, then (at least in the USA) OP can sue me for giving medical advice.  I would prefer to avoid questions that are lawsuit bait.  While I agree with you that the question is on the right side of the law, the law is set up in the USA to make lawsuits a heckler's veto." CreationDate="2018-05-21T12:23:20.380" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17366" PostId="8288" Score="0" Text="I'm not sure everyone has the same understanding of what a back roll is and a front roll is. I would try to illustrate." CreationDate="2018-05-21T12:51:44.783" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17367" PostId="8293" Score="0" Text="Just to be clear: it is not my intention to challenge my instructor's teaching choices, but rather to understand the reason behind the discrepancy." CreationDate="2018-05-21T13:30:13.947" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17368" PostId="8216" Score="1" Text="Follow up visit- healing nicely." CreationDate="2018-05-21T14:01:41.250" UserId="7936" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17369" PostId="8294" Score="0" Text="Yeah, I think that's the main factor. The more time spent getting hit, the more long-term damage you'll accumulate, particular brain damage. So it's a double-edged sword. Yes, you're skilled at fighting, but you're also hurting yourself more and more as time goes on. Someone who's not as good a fighter might quit competing altogether, thereby saving their brain from cumulative, long-term damage. Ironic." CreationDate="2018-05-21T14:03:20.363" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17370" PostId="8289" Score="1" Text="The only thing I would add in an answer that wouldn't be a paraphrase of this one is that we teach ukemi first as self defence against the techniques that we will show later in the class. A student needs to fall safely if we are to show them how to do techniques. Once students know how to fall, the techniques become less scary." CreationDate="2018-05-21T14:43:44.607" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17372" PostId="8288" Score="1" Text="Just as an FYI, gymnastics does the front roll first." CreationDate="2018-05-21T20:53:47.287" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17373" PostId="8299" Score="0" Text="I'm curious about the type of belt you use. Can you share a picture? You approach is nice but you are limited on the combinations using both legs you can practice, so you would mostly practice one leg at a time. Maybe using the the foam gym mat with your belt is a winning combination?" CreationDate="2018-05-22T08:36:31.687" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17374" PostId="8299" Score="0" Text="@DanielReis the belt is one of my spare (/old/) black belts. A foam gym mat might be alright - (I haven't tried it - just trying to work out if the cushioning would be adequate). I have also strung several small round pads to my belt - which is better for both legs but requires more accuracy. I will edit that option into the answer." CreationDate="2018-05-22T09:06:06.517" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17375" PostId="8299" Score="0" Text="I will try to grab a picture next time we are doing some outdoor training - Tempted to use a couple of belts and smaller pads for middle/high sections and use both legs - just need to find a decent tree." CreationDate="2018-05-22T09:17:41.467" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17376" PostId="8299" Score="0" Text="I already get what you are doing, thanks. If you can get a photo it would surely add some colour the the answer :-)" CreationDate="2018-05-22T10:40:57.397" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17378" PostId="8293" Score="0" Text="I didn't think you were challenging your instructor, you asked a fair question I think.  Some instructors may choose differently depending on the makeup of the class, too:  half the students know the front roll, the other half knows neither, so, let's do the back roll so everyone goes home learning something new.  That kind of thing." CreationDate="2018-05-22T12:40:57.140" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17379" PostId="8172" Score="2" Text="We used to turn our swim towel into rat-tails and have snap fights on the team, but at most we drew a little blood. Nothing like the shown clip, that is entertainment only." CreationDate="2018-05-22T20:35:42.067" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17380" PostId="8303" Score="1" Text="Base forms of Boxing can be traced back to Ancient Greece (and even a couple of millennia earlier in the middle east). As with most arts it has evolved and modernised somewhat... Are you looking for arts that have not evolved? (boxing certainly seems to counter the statement)" CreationDate="2018-05-23T08:54:50.567" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17381" PostId="8303" Score="0" Text="Maybe the person stating this was thinking of weapon practices (since HEMA is usually associated with sword fighting) - in that context, would the statement hold? Is there any more restricted sense in which the statement could be true?" CreationDate="2018-05-23T10:11:13.967" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17382" PostId="8303" Score="1" Text="[Quaterstaves](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarterstaff) and [fencing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fencing) both use weapons and have manuals still in used written in the XV century. *There is no way, shape, or form that this statement is valid.* Unless you redefine word meanings…" CreationDate="2018-05-23T12:04:51.763" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17383" PostId="8305" Score="0" Text="I take this as settled. I can see what the person doing the presentation meant, but the statement was bold to say the least, even if we limit teh scope to weapon practices. To be minimally accurate he could have said &quot;one of the few&quot; rather than &quot;the only&quot;. I also challenge that &quot;Jogo do Pau&quot; can be considered a martial *art*, but that is another story." CreationDate="2018-05-24T08:44:22.163" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17384" PostId="8305" Score="0" Text="It is a hyperbole commonly used in marital arts to show a mix of superiority and purity over others. We see it in Aikido all the time…" CreationDate="2018-05-24T08:59:56.160" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17386" PostId="8307" Score="2" Text="I have no basis for this claim so it is a comment.  The statistics quoted on popularity would be greatly skewed by the screen time given by the service provider.  If there is not a story on wrestling, I can't click on it.  I guarantee* the staffing and equipment provided to cover gymnastics &amp; wrestling were proportional to the statistical &quot;popularity&quot;.  Therefore this is decided by the TV/Internet editors of major networks, not by IOC; they are just following the data.  If all sports were promoted fairly, you could rely on the ratings." CreationDate="2018-05-24T18:04:26.680" UserId="9289" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17388" PostId="8307" Score="0" Text="@Jammin4CO: Frankly, the ESPN article makes it clear that it was far from an objective decision, with most of the statistics being added afterwards to justify their decision." CreationDate="2018-05-24T19:36:20.317" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17389" PostId="8306" Score="0" Text="Isn't it crazy that horse dancing is in the Olympics, yet they talked about removing the OG Olympics sport, and possibly the greatest and most effective martial art of all time. Is it permanently reinstated? Or will this come up again every four years?" CreationDate="2018-05-24T20:27:53.210" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17390" PostId="8292" Score="0" Text="Become an ultimate warrior in two months or your money back! Come on, man. These things take a life time to learn. Stop looking for the quick/easy route. Start working hard. In 10 years when you're a beast you'll look back and laugh at how ridiculous you were to assume one could learn any one of those things so quickly." CreationDate="2018-05-24T20:32:34.680" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17391" PostId="8292" Score="4" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is not martial arts related." CreationDate="2018-05-24T20:34:48.370" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17394" PostId="8315" Score="1" Text="Different subject, but regarding the red vs. blue, always try to pick red if you're competing. Analysis shows that referees and judges tend to be biased towards those competitors that wear red. If you want a slight advantage over your opponent, wear red! Source: http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20120731-wear-red-to-win-gold" CreationDate="2018-05-28T20:18:53.963" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17395" PostId="8315" Score="1" Text="As the first competitions (at least in the UK) were held in a boxing ring - I imagine the red corner vs blue corner was lifted from there - it seems to be a commonality for combat sports." CreationDate="2018-05-29T07:06:01.643" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17396" PostId="8306" Score="0" Text="@coinbird Everything is always on the chopping block, just some closer to the blade than others.  Gotta make room for E-Sports, and can't have more than x number..  SMH" CreationDate="2018-05-29T13:27:49.977" UserId="9289" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17399" PostId="8313" Score="0" Text="As far as i know these two colors are just make distinction between opponents." CreationDate="2018-05-28T09:21:47.367" UserId="8667" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17404" PostId="8320" Score="0" Text="Dear Collett89, thanks for your well-written answer, but I am asking about a hook, not a jab. Both are different; a jab is thrown straight without any body twist, its a full arm punch, generally thrown from a safe distance. A hook on the other hand requires you to twist and uses the energy of that twist to land a sideways punch. Its bent elbow-not full arm, and therefore generally requires you to be close to the opponent (in his striking range)." CreationDate="2018-05-31T12:56:33.327" UserId="9305" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17405" PostId="8321" Score="1" Text="A jab is a specific punch. It is more than just moving your lead hand forward. A qualified coach has to show you a legit jab. Quality is better than the physical movement alone.  If you are in a southpaw stance you are indeed fighting as a left handed person would.  You would jab with your right hand &amp; cross with your left hand. Keep in mind you weak hand is now the power hand. This may be a problem later on with a better sparring partner." CreationDate="2018-05-31T13:21:56.607" UserId="8964" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17407" PostId="8320" Score="0" Text="@Collett89 Your information about the hook is great. Could you edit your post to move that info to the top, so it's the focus of the post?" CreationDate="2018-05-31T14:18:02.487" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17410" PostId="8323" Score="0" Text="Thank you!  Both answers are great, and I'm convinced to not let this switch happen for now." CreationDate="2018-05-31T16:53:53.587" UserId="9305" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17411" PostId="8320" Score="0" Text="This answer is wonderful now, thanks. Especially liked the idea of moving back and then doing the hook, I  wrongly thought you only step forward and hook. Also I suppose a left hook to the body could drop guard, opening up face for jab-straight." CreationDate="2018-05-31T16:57:29.653" UserId="9305" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17413" PostId="8323" Score="0" Text="@user153812 Good call. I wouldn't do it until I absolutely needed a reason to. I've seen teammates try to get cute and switch stances in a fight only to get cracked because their defense on that side isn't up to par." CreationDate="2018-05-31T18:11:35.153" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17414" PostId="8320" Score="2" Text="@user153812 Step back hooks are a must have in your toolbox. When working on footwork you'll learn how to not get run down by an opponent that's pushing the action hard, trying to walk you down. A good step back cross or step back hook is the perfect way to keep them in check. I actually prefer the step back hook with your power hand. One big step back and it's now your lead hand for a killer hook." CreationDate="2018-05-31T18:14:41.320" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17415" PostId="8320" Score="2" Text="@user153812 - You will learn that every technique has multiple purposes. Yes, a hook to the body *can* get them to drop their guard for another hook to head. However a lot of the body shots in initial rounds are to weaken the fighter overall for a finish in later rounds." CreationDate="2018-05-31T18:57:24.993" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17416" PostId="8325" Score="2" Text="Also, it will impact ability to help others.  I know that if I was a white belt and another white belt tried to teach me something, I would be a bit more skeptical than if a brown belt tried to teach me something." CreationDate="2018-05-31T19:05:36.380" UserId="644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17417" PostId="8322" Score="2" Text="If your interest is in self defense, I suggest doing a web search for &quot;best forms of martial arts for self defense&quot;. Based on such a search, Taekwondo isn't high on any of these lists. Also, for most people, the odds of getting injured while studying certain forms of martial arts is much higher than the odds of getting injured due to some random encounter with an attacker. A significant percentage of professional MMA fighters don't have &quot;official&quot; black belts, although they have the skills." CreationDate="2018-06-01T08:25:13.677" UserId="9310" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17419" PostId="7846" Score="0" Text="You could go into more detail about what to use according to what you're trying to achieve. Cheeky dig to the guts, pushing the opponent back ... crushing their ribs!" CreationDate="2018-06-01T10:17:06.187" UserId="8536" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17420" PostId="8330" Score="0" Text="Does tae kwon do use Kano's ranking system then?…" CreationDate="2018-06-01T14:24:09.083" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17421" PostId="8330" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion Yes, it's the same basic kyu/dan system. The total number of ranks and their associated colors vary." CreationDate="2018-06-01T14:35:06.217" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17422" PostId="8330" Score="0" Text="TIL … /20chars…" CreationDate="2018-06-01T14:46:49.340" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17423" PostId="8330" Score="0" Text="According to [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_(rank)#Korean_martial_arts), 3rd dan is &quot;Sam Dan&quot;, following the Korean numbering &quot;Il, I, Sam, Sa, ...&quot;. Are you sure the japanese numbers are being used?" CreationDate="2018-06-01T15:03:02.870" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17424" PostId="8330" Score="0" Text="@DanielReis, not sure; only have question to go by." CreationDate="2018-06-01T16:07:58.730" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17425" PostId="8330" Score="0" Text="Given taekwondo started as bastardised karate, and indeed was sometimes openly referred to as &quot;korean karate&quot; (Google it any you'll find a few old books etc) or by one of the Korean translations of karate - &quot;tangsoodo&quot; or &quot;kongsoodo&quot; - in the early days, it's unsurprising that some old documents may use the Japanese spelling." CreationDate="2018-06-02T08:36:28.277" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17426" PostId="8333" Score="1" Text="For what it's worth I agree with you that a moving target is fun, and it also builds a different type of technique, since real targets aren't stationary.  But, regarding the wrist pain, that indicates your technique needs some more work in the accuracy department, which you should work on, on a stationary target. In short: speed, accuracy, power are important and you should train each independently, focused on the specific aspect you are trying to improve at that time." CreationDate="2018-06-03T04:31:20.273" UserId="6206" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17427" PostId="8324" Score="1" Text="&quot;The purpose of a colored belt is primarily for the benefit of the instructor&quot; - I've trained in TKD for 17 years and never thought about it that way. Thank you for giving me a new insight!" CreationDate="2018-06-04T07:32:18.137" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17428" PostId="8334" Score="2" Text="Welcome to the site. I am afraid this has nothing to do specifically with Tai Chi which is what the question is asking. Could you re-focus your answer on your Tai Chi experience?" CreationDate="2018-06-04T12:12:08.880" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17429" PostId="8324" Score="0" Text="Trying to break the ice and reduce tension, my instructor once quizzed his students testing for their new belts; he asked them &quot;why do we have tests?&quot;  We got the usual snarky responses (including from other instructors) like &quot;to make money&quot;, &quot;to make us nervous&quot;.  He acknowledged the joking, but said they are intended to make students to practice more, especially at home.  Attendance usually increases, and the intensity of training usually increases, whenever there is an upcoming test.  I've yet to find an exception to this at any school I've been to." CreationDate="2018-06-04T14:10:12.100" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17430" PostId="8330" Score="0" Text="In Korean, &quot;sam dan&quot; would be correct.  However, it is not uncommon to find other phrases in Japanese creep into some TKD schools, and &quot;san dan&quot; is a notable example.  Modern TKD schools tend to stick with English or Korean words, but some older instructors - particularly those who still refer to their style as &quot;Korean Karate&quot;, and in many Tang Soo Do schools - will use Japanese phrases.  So, dojo, bogu, gi, bunkai, and katana are commonly used there.  Also, if the certificate's date was before 1945, it would have been ALL Japanese (or English translations of Japanese)." CreationDate="2018-06-04T14:28:16.350" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17431" PostId="8338" Score="0" Text="This isn't quite there as an answer to &quot;how to respectfully ask my judge...?&quot;. I think your answer is actually &quot;Don't; put it down to experience and do better next time&quot;, which is a valid approach; the text needs to actually say that, though." CreationDate="2018-06-05T11:48:16.507" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17432" PostId="8324" Score="2" Text="There is nothing wrong with acknowledging that a rank test is a source of revenue for a school. It does not make a McDojo. What does, is rank tests on a regular schedule that you can show up to based solely on class attendance and not ability. Or pass on &quot;good will&quot;. It is time that martial arts let go of the &quot;if they make money they are a mcdojo&quot; attitude. Long gone are the days of servitude in exchange for instruction." CreationDate="2018-06-05T14:34:40.433" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17434" PostId="8292" Score="0" Text="&quot;An intense 1 or 2 month camp&quot;...the skills you are describing take many years to master. All a camp will do is teach you to survive the camp." CreationDate="2018-06-05T20:45:10.873" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17435" PostId="8308" Score="1" Text="Remember though, that diagram has the feet at shoulder width apart, not the inner edges of the feet on the same line as per Kukkiwon standards. https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/taekwondo/images/f/f0/KKW_WTF_Stances.png/revision/latest?cb=20160221155237" CreationDate="2018-06-06T09:05:40.843" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17436" PostId="8308" Score="0" Text="I think that's an argument in favor of the &quot;execution flaw&quot; explanation." CreationDate="2018-06-06T10:21:49.363" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17437" PostId="8329" Score="1" Text="Any chance you can edit to add a photo?" CreationDate="2018-06-06T10:22:44.353" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17438" PostId="8322" Score="0" Text="Second for @rcgldr response. TKD is terrible for self defense. Go to an MMA gym, learn the &quot;big 3&quot; - wrestling, BJJ, and Muay Thai (or whatever form of kickboxing they teach) ." CreationDate="2018-06-06T14:15:41.143" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17440" PostId="8333" Score="0" Text="Thanks, I'll pay attention to these separately. Thanks for breaking it down!" CreationDate="2018-06-07T02:56:23.333" UserId="9305" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17441" PostId="8335" Score="0" Text="Thanks, it's good to hear that it will swing, I was wondering if I'm doing something very wrong. Time to work on accuracy now. :)" CreationDate="2018-06-07T02:57:18.753" UserId="9305" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17442" PostId="8335" Score="1" Text="Accuracy, timing, and rhythm. These will help. They develop like everything else in combat. By practice ;)" CreationDate="2018-06-07T06:52:25.203" UserId="8701" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17443" PostId="8343" Score="0" Text="So to make sure: The really quick punches can be done in a different way, then twisting fully? Their aim is to confuse and blind the opponent, not to deal damage?" CreationDate="2018-06-07T12:54:23.120" UserId="8701" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17444" PostId="8343" Score="0" Text="@alex.iron: To speak with physics: When you twist, you have a rotational inertia that takes a lot of strength to redirect fast, i.e. if you punch just using your arms and shoulders without using the rest of your body, you can throw faster combinations (standard case - good boxers are an exception) and need less strength, i.e. it drains you less. Less damage, but can be used to confuse and conceal, test the reactions, retain distance, etc. The &quot;art&quot; comes in when you train to get (nearly) the same speed coupled with a twist, i.e. power. This takes A LOT of hard training and drains your stamina." CreationDate="2018-06-07T13:09:40.233" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17445" PostId="8343" Score="0" Text="This is a great answer! McGregor has an unconventional boxing style, probably not the best to learn from." CreationDate="2018-06-07T15:59:01.017" UserId="9305" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17446" PostId="8340" Score="1" Text="Yup. The neighbor issue is the main one. If there's someone making loud pounding noises, even if I'm not trying to sleep or anything, I'm going to feel like it's an intrusion into my life. Like it's something someone is doing *to* me. I'm going to be irate. So I'm sorry, if you have an apartment, you just can't do it there. Find a gym that has them. Boxing gyms sometimes have an &quot;open gym&quot; policy at certain times of the day or week, where you pay only something like $5 to $10 to use all the facilities. Look into that first." CreationDate="2018-06-07T19:25:10.570" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17450" PostId="8345" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the answer! However, there is no such concept as a &quot;garage&quot; where I live and I try to avoid teaching other people KM (the very reason I left my training group to begin with) Do you have any insights about &quot;double end bags&quot;?" CreationDate="2018-06-08T15:04:01.153" UserDisplayName="user9316" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17451" PostId="8345" Score="1" Text="The double-end bags require the bottom of the bag to be secure - usually to a floor-mounted hook or a heavy weight.  That is probably not an option for you: the lighter the bag the more that bottom end will need to be secure.  Some A-frame type bag mounts have special arrangements for a double-end bag, but, A-frames ARE a bit more expensive and bulky (and no more quiet than any other arrangement).  And certainly they're less portable.  If you had commercial space, that'd be your best bet.  I can almost guarantee no apartment will allow this." CreationDate="2018-06-08T15:41:57.550" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17452" PostId="6083" Score="0" Text="+1 for linking to Kanazawa Sensei's video however as the only living 10th dan in Shotokan I'd say he's more than just a 'Shotokan practitioner'. [1:13](https://youtu.be/9D2yOzDsW8k?t=73) gives a slightly better view of the turn. He's definitely landing with the ball of his right foot and I believe he turns on the ball of his left foot initially then turning on the heel as he twists into his stance and shifts his weight forwards." CreationDate="2018-06-08T15:50:30.520" UserId="9320" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17453" PostId="8346" Score="0" Text="Nice question! I assumed that the typical karate stance is too linear for a hook and a quick return. A kick might be easier. Eager to hear the experts." CreationDate="2018-06-08T19:50:22.677" UserId="9305" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17454" PostId="7939" Score="0" Text="I was tempted to answer but I don't have any references for you. I'm 1st dan in karate and when we train we use oss/osu a lot! I've however just started training in BJJ where I find it very hard not to resist the impules to bow and say oss! to everybody. I would guess that it's this very phenomenon that's led to the word's adoption in so many arts and styles than Kyokushin karate from which it originated (according to this [article](http://the-martial-way.com/history-of-osu-oss/))" CreationDate="2018-06-09T00:21:27.213" UserId="9320" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17455" PostId="7939" Score="1" Text="As a fairly new art to the world at large rising to popularity in the 1990s by way of defeating many martial arts masters and success in early UFC lots of people probably did as I have done and began to train in it as a second art. The oss! may have been carried from whatever these new students trained in before.&#xA;&#xA;This is mostly speculation but hopefully it's given you something to think about!" CreationDate="2018-06-09T00:24:07.610" UserId="9320" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17456" PostId="8351" Score="3" Text="I'm confused; if this is a tournament setting, follow the rules. If this is for everyday self defense, you fight with what you're wearing, you don't go home to change clothes.  If your technique is so optimized that the style of your pants affects the speed and impact of your punches, then I don't think you need to fear anyone on earth." CreationDate="2018-06-09T12:45:09.627" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17457" PostId="8351" Score="0" Text="It's an everyday self-defense thing. The question is &quot;what do you choose to wear given all the options&quot; - like, given a choice of &quot;high heels&quot; and &quot;no heels&quot;, you choose the latter because high heels suck in fighting situations. I thought the style of pants *can* affect footing, which is why I asked the question here" CreationDate="2018-06-09T14:23:48.897" UserId="9324" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17458" PostId="8352" Score="0" Text="Would front kicks fit your requirements?" CreationDate="2018-06-09T17:47:29.990" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17459" PostId="8352" Score="0" Text="Must a push both be a combat sport move and increase distance? What about pushes that are not from combat sports or pushes that are intended to move the opponent but not necessarily increase distance?" CreationDate="2018-06-09T20:59:04.177" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17464" PostId="8349" Score="1" Text="It would help if you could add the relevant section of the rules, as well as the current date of ratification. As rules change, so may this answer. :)" CreationDate="2018-06-11T14:49:57.027" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17465" PostId="8339" Score="0" Text="Do you have an example of a 'double-end bag'?" CreationDate="2018-06-11T14:56:13.800" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17466" PostId="8339" Score="0" Text="Yes, something of [this](https://goo.gl/images/KNNR6N) kind." CreationDate="2018-06-11T15:47:30.337" UserDisplayName="user9316" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17467" PostId="8339" Score="0" Text="You need to go to a gym. There is very little to be gained from &quot;training on your own&quot;" CreationDate="2018-06-11T22:04:07.023" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17468" PostId="8361" Score="0" Text="Good answer. It evolved to be what it is. It's not a complete combat system, nothing is on its own. This part made me chuckle though, &quot;especially if they do manage to get you down&quot;, they would, easily, because the karate folk aren't training takedown defense. And keeping distance isn't a defense. Remember the Gracie Challenge?" CreationDate="2018-06-11T22:11:58.020" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17470" PostId="8360" Score="0" Text="Very interesting answer! ' Did you know that boxing contained grappling and throws?' caught my attention, do you have some reference for this? Would like to know more." CreationDate="2018-06-12T13:39:23.577" UserId="9305" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17471" PostId="8360" Score="2" Text="Yes.  Today's boxing, commonly called &quot;American Boxing&quot; is an adaptation to the Marquess of Queensbury rules, with notable technical differences having to do with weight classes, size of ring, and the use of umpires (we call them referees).  But Queensbury superceeds London Prize Ring rules, which allows throws.  In fact, Queensbury rules explicitly forbid wrestling and throws, a notable difference between the two sports.&#xA;&#xA;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Prize_Ring_Rules" CreationDate="2018-06-12T14:16:41.203" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17472" PostId="8360" Score="1" Text="I'll probably get kicked for introducing irrelevant (to the OP) details, but here is more interesting info on boxing:&#xA;&#xA;https://www.britannica.com/sports/boxing/The-bare-knuckle-era#ref403493" CreationDate="2018-06-12T14:25:56.643" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17475" PostId="8364" Score="2" Text="The &quot;empty hand&quot; definition of karate is fairly modern and originates in Japan's militarization in the 1920s. Prior to that, it was pronounced the same, but written with kanji that better translated as &quot;china hand&quot;, and referred to the Chinese influence on Okinawan martial arts. It was common practice to simply call it &quot;te&quot;, or to affix regional prefixes to differentiate between styles. Thus, ancient karateka did not practice &quot;karate&quot;, but rather &quot;Shuri-te&quot;, &quot;Naha-te&quot; or &quot;Tomari-te&quot;. The term &quot;karate&quot; is the Japanese equivalent of &quot;kung fu&quot; and, likewise, it now covers many different styles." CreationDate="2018-06-12T23:11:22.740" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17480" PostId="8367" Score="5" Text="I think this is actually a great question. You need to find an instructor who will adapt the art to fit your limitations. Many of the arts can be adapted but the key thing is finding the right instructor." CreationDate="2018-06-13T11:16:51.927" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17481" PostId="8366" Score="0" Text="I respect your experience, but answering a question about combat sports with an answer with something you start to not be a combat sport is a bit odd, you know? :)" CreationDate="2018-06-13T13:31:25.077" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17482" PostId="8366" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan The asker did not respond to the request to clarify what they were looking for, so I decided to err on the side of more information." CreationDate="2018-06-13T13:54:29.447" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17487" PostId="8376" Score="0" Text="Why do you think a shoe will help this problem?" CreationDate="2018-06-13T21:17:09.800" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17488" PostId="7007" Score="1" Text="Shotokan History citations available now?" CreationDate="2018-06-14T01:10:08.693" UserId="5745" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17489" PostId="7007" Score="0" Text="I wish I had time, Malandy. What you really want is something definitive and authoritative about the fact that Funakoshi essentially dumbed down karate so that it could be taught to school children as part of the physical education curriculum. Words to that effect are written pretty much everywhere, but maybe more respectfully. We definitely know he didn't include bunkai in his teachings. We definitely know it was introduced to Japan for physical education. There are others that have performed a critical analysis of the technique and have concluded it's less dangerous than okinawan karate." CreationDate="2018-06-14T02:57:40.413" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17490" PostId="7007" Score="0" Text="Where the issue for me comes in is that there aren't many authoritative accounts that discuss this. If you google for shotokan history, you're just going to get a billion shotokan web sites with the same history telling. Suffice it to say, all of what I mentioned is written in different places which you can read by googling. It's just that I don't think that's going to be sufficient for someone who wants something authoritative. I'll post a citation if I run into something I think is worthy. It's a signal to noise problem for me, and that's why it requires a lot of time." CreationDate="2018-06-14T03:07:43.430" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17491" PostId="8376" Score="0" Text="Because when i wear normal walking shoes my 1st MTPJ doesn't hurt so much?  I'm not sure what you mean - I don't want to go for surgery." CreationDate="2018-06-14T09:21:09.867" UserId="9340" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17492" PostId="8376" Score="1" Text="Maybe this answer is helpful: https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/8086/8387" CreationDate="2018-06-14T13:46:00.837" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17493" PostId="8378" Score="0" Text="OK -I see the confusion. I run a lot -and i run with barefoot shoes. I get pain in my 1st MTPJ -but I can put up with it and I generally buy into the idea that my barefoot running is better for me than trusting shoes. The main problem i have with kickboxing is when I have to sink down on the foot (involving a lot of toe extension) to do a reverse punch,  It is REALLY sore to the extent that I cant do it.  If I wear trainers or shoes with a stiff sole I can bend further because they limit the extension a bit and I can use them for support.... but I can't use really stiff shoes to train so...?" CreationDate="2018-06-14T16:40:21.890" UserId="9340" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17494" PostId="8369" Score="0" Text="Thank you for the helpful advice does anybody have more information on Eastern archery I shot Western when I was younger and I would like to try Eastern could somebody give me some helpful info? I would really appreciate it" CreationDate="2018-06-15T00:11:32.267" UserId="9335" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17496" PostId="8369" Score="0" Text="[How about using a search engine?…](https://duckduckgo.com/?q=asian+archery&amp;t=ffab&amp;ia=web)" CreationDate="2018-06-15T07:14:44.517" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17497" PostId="8380" Score="0" Text="I've found the same explanation on several other pages, although it is noted that this is not universal, that there exist fighting swords with the *schilt*. Unfortunately, my knowledge is all secondhand." CreationDate="2018-06-15T11:55:21.087" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17500" PostId="2530" Score="0" Text="*&quot;the founder (general Choi) decided that TKD needed its own, unique set of forms (under pressure to disassociate with anything Japanese). So he made them up.&quot;* - calling him the founder is dubious - he had the distinction of being a military officer with transient backing from the government to unify martial arts practices despite being a relatively junior exponent, and he largely delegated the &quot;making up&quot; of the patterns to [Nam Tae Hi, Han Cha Kyo, Choi Chang Keun, Park Won Ha, Woo Jae Lim, Kim Bok Man and Cho Sang Min](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyeong#ITF_Ch'ang_Hon_forms)." CreationDate="2018-06-16T02:59:26.440" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17501" PostId="2530" Score="0" Text="@TonyD Yes, it's true that Choi Hong Hi gets all the credit in general, unfairly. It wasn't just him making the decisions and bringing knowledge to the table. It was indeed a popular sentiment among the founders (plural) of TKD that their forms should be different from the Shotokan forms. Choi is just the one people most remember." CreationDate="2018-06-16T03:31:35.833" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17503" PostId="8382" Score="0" Text="In many martial arts, rank is not a good indication of skill. But in BJJ, rank and skill are highly correlated. You might consider doing BJJ, even though there certainly is a hierarchy. The question is, does that hierarchy get in the way of your learning, or does it assist you? I think for BJJ at least, I think it's the latter. In MMA, boxing, and wrestling, you just have a coach / student relationship, no real rank. Would any of the above satisfy you?" CreationDate="2018-06-16T16:00:33.423" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17506" PostId="8382" Score="0" Text="It's not clear what power relationships you might consider necessary. Are all power relationships unnecessary? Are student-teacher relationships unnecessary? Why does there have to be an ideology?" CreationDate="2018-06-17T20:18:23.037" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17508" PostId="8382" Score="1" Text="I have no idea what &quot;licensed&quot; means." CreationDate="2018-06-18T10:44:33.307" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17511" PostId="8369" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion: Given there are a number of different styles out there, is there one which is more appropriate for someone with a disorder such as cerebral palsy?" CreationDate="2018-06-18T13:12:45.750" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17512" PostId="8369" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan Answer edited." CreationDate="2018-06-18T13:27:33.357" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17513" PostId="8375" Score="0" Text="I really like that this answer shows how gedan barai can be used as a combined block/sweep to set up the kicker for your counter.  With experience you develop a feel for that can can do it from many distances, stances and angles.  IMHO, the basic partner-less kihon/kata practice of a &quot;low block&quot; that you &quot;rotate into&quot; is still useful for developing the general feel and mechanics of this technique that you then tune to the situation during kumite/fighting.  (Will have to agree to disagree with &quot;3.&quot; though - IMHO wrestling/takedowns/etc are best learnt &amp; practised as distinct techniques.)" CreationDate="2018-06-18T13:45:35.073" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17514" PostId="8375" Score="0" Text="@TonyD - #3 is about the transition into wrestling, and not about training wrestling. An example of the opposite would be a BJJ guy starting the fight by getting on his butt and waiting for his opponent to come, which makes no sense at all in a street fight. Just as BJJ players still learn some stand up game, Karate is about using strikes, takedowns and joint controls to gain an advantage before transitioning to the ground. Karate katas are essentially 80% takedowns and joint controls, but no one practices them like this anymore because any trace of wrestling was eliminated long ago." CreationDate="2018-06-18T15:30:39.397" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17515" PostId="8375" Score="0" Text="@TonyD - A karate instructor proficient in some other grappling art (Judo, BJJ, jujutsu, sambo, etc.) ends up seeing a lot of interesting entries into classical throws &amp; holds in katas. Even if you don't want to practice grappling at all in your karate class, how can you teach the karate techniques properly if you don't even know about the grappling techniques they are supposed to chain into? So while I agree with you that it's better to crosstrain grappling elsewhere, it makes no sense to see none of it in karate itself, because karate was created as something you added to grappling." CreationDate="2018-06-18T15:38:23.570" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17516" PostId="8384" Score="1" Text="I'm really not sure what you're talking about here. There are no such things as 15 to 20 punch combinations. Combinations are typically at most 3 strikes. Maybe 4 or 5 strikes. But never 15 to 20 strikes. Combinations are different. You can chain combinations together, of course. Like you could do combination A, then B, then back to A, repeat. If you're just talking about hitting the bag continuously and fatiguing before you get to the 5th strike, that's something else. Please clarify." CreationDate="2018-06-18T22:26:30.973" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17517" PostId="8384" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand - thanks for your comments, I was using the incorrect terminology. Have edited the question to reflect this." CreationDate="2018-06-19T05:16:30.287" UserId="9305" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17518" PostId="8385" Score="0" Text="Thank you! I have edited the question to clarify that I mean full effort punches with good form. Your pointers on stance are helpful, thanks. But coming back to the question, how does this stance mistake (incorrect angle) lead to fatigue? Is it that arms get overworked because of inadequate support from hips and legs?" CreationDate="2018-06-19T05:23:26.367" UserId="9305" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17519" PostId="8386" Score="0" Text="I tried to edit your question to clarify it, but I'm not certain if I understood the first question of your second paragraph." CreationDate="2018-06-19T20:18:52.913" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17520" PostId="8386" Score="0" Text="In addition, can you tell us what disability you have that interferes with your motor and coordination skills? It may helps us help you with your problem. And was there anything different that you did in college than now? Or were not disabled then?" CreationDate="2018-06-19T20:19:41.137" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17521" PostId="8386" Score="0" Text="I have dyspraxia to some degree" CreationDate="2018-06-19T20:26:55.477" UserId="9364" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17522" PostId="8386" Score="2" Text="You have practiced in the past, so what happened then that you think you cannot continue? Is it just you are not happy with how fast you are progressing?" CreationDate="2018-06-19T20:54:38.703" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17523" PostId="8388" Score="0" Text="Something like tabi shoes should help but I am not a kickboxing expert so …," CreationDate="2018-06-20T06:57:39.110" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17524" PostId="8388" Score="2" Text="There are [shoes](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/8086/8387) designed specifically for martial arts footwork and kicking." CreationDate="2018-06-20T09:01:15.140" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17525" PostId="8391" Score="5" Text="&quot;Martial arts are a journey on your own path, at your own time and speed.&quot; ← This could have been the only line of your answer and I would still have upvoted it. *This is critical to gain insight!*" CreationDate="2018-06-20T11:56:00.633" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17526" PostId="8385" Score="0" Text="@user153812 It's not about fatigue so much as being off-balance and rotated out of position (so the bag's more to your side / closer to the a line through your hips rather than perpendicular), making it hard to turn back into another good punch - if your form is poor you'll have to make increasingly awkward or weak moves as your &quot;combo&quot; progresses." CreationDate="2018-06-20T12:26:21.500" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17527" PostId="8385" Score="0" Text="On the other hand, if you're rotating well and your arms are striking out in front of the hips (i.e. perpendicular to a line through the hips, rather than in line with the hips and out to one side of you) then the resistance of the target naturally consumes power from the hip rotation and it's easy and natural to reverse the hip rotation and throw another punch." CreationDate="2018-06-20T12:26:28.357" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17529" PostId="8391" Score="2" Text="Mimicking movements works for some people, explaining movements works for others, and some *have to be moved* for a couple of times before the body learned the series of moves, especially when the connection between consciousness and body is problematic. I want to emphasise the point of finding an appropriate group plus instructor. Instructor, as he has to be able to teach according to your individual needs. Group, as partners and size have to be supportive and accommodate your needs as well. But martial arts will help you either way, you just have to be attentive regarding what helps you." CreationDate="2018-06-20T16:59:14.837" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17530" PostId="8387" Score="0" Text="Thank you I looked at the internal martial arts a couple months ago the problem is I want to find an instructor who will teach the complete art. The ones that teach Tai Chi and such at senior centers do mostly the stretching aspects of it which I do yoga for. But thank you I have not heard of this I will look more into it and maybe it's what I'm looking for. May I ask you more questions if I come across something I do not understand?" CreationDate="2018-06-20T23:36:18.687" UserId="9335" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17531" PostId="8387" Score="0" Text="@TylerBarnhart Although such an instructor is best, realistically, you will have to be able to stand and walk unassisted before this will really make a difference. Anything you can do to get there should not be time wasted, whether that be basic taiji, physical therapy, or something else." CreationDate="2018-06-21T03:32:03.467" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17532" PostId="8387" Score="0" Text="@TylerBarnhart You are always free to ask questions. As you have already encountered though, it's best to research what you can first and come with informed questions. Whether I or anyone else can answer with something useful is another matter." CreationDate="2018-06-21T03:36:26.433" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17533" PostId="1575" Score="0" Text="It's not about knowing the patterns and techniques. Being a black belt is about being there mentally, physically, emotionally. It's a responsibility. It's also about respect for the art. We say &quot;quickly acquired, quickly lost&quot;." CreationDate="2018-06-20T20:34:58.157" UserId="9369" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17534" PostId="898" Score="0" Text="Or airsoft, perhaps?" CreationDate="2018-06-21T15:21:41.247" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17535" PostId="8395" Score="0" Text="They do clean the floor every night, so I don't think it's exceptionally dirty for what it is. But dust, hair, sweat accumulates, and that's just how it goes. I asked about wrestling shoes, but they weren't okay with them. That's a cool use for plasticdip!" CreationDate="2018-06-21T17:12:08.887" UserId="9365" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17536" PostId="6374" Score="2" Text="I agree with all of this, but it suggests that wrist grabs that uncommon in all competitive martial arts. Wrist grabs are absolutely routine in no-gi BJJ for example..." CreationDate="2018-06-21T19:02:30.937" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17540" PostId="8384" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand - [This](https://youtu.be/m9aBsOWXyNw) is another example of such usage. I recognize that it's not accurate, posting the link just to clarify what I'm asking about." CreationDate="2018-06-23T14:40:45.983" UserId="9305" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17541" PostId="8398" Score="1" Text="This seems to be very opinion-oriented..." CreationDate="2018-06-25T02:07:22.450" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17542" PostId="8397" Score="1" Text="Possible duplicate of [What are the possible signs some has lost consciousness when being choked?](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/1955/what-are-the-possible-signs-some-has-lost-consciousness-when-being-choked)" CreationDate="2018-06-25T06:37:47.837" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17543" PostId="8398" Score="0" Text="Yes. it's a very opinion oriented question. I yet to write my view on the subject to avoid biasing the awnsers." CreationDate="2018-06-25T06:39:10.013" UserId="9366" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17545" PostId="8390" Score="1" Text="Do you have a source for that quote?" CreationDate="2018-06-25T06:40:13.437" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17546" PostId="8398" Score="0" Text="How does your question fit into [Good Subjective, Bad Subjective](https://stackoverflow.blog/2010/09/29/good-subjective-bad-subjective/)?" CreationDate="2018-06-25T08:59:10.353" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17548" PostId="8397" Score="0" Text="This is not a duplicate. This is not a question about the choke itself, rather the position established to perform the choke and the possibility of injuring the spine" CreationDate="2018-06-25T13:13:23.100" UserId="5578" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17549" PostId="8397" Score="0" Text="Then your question is uncleared. Could you edit it to make sure it is not a duplicate?" CreationDate="2018-06-25T14:18:29.563" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17550" PostId="8397" Score="1" Text="You especially need to detail the position you were in. The basic answer is &quot;Yes, anything is possible&quot;. I'm not sure that this question is really answerable, however, since we would just be relying on a description, which brings us back to the basic answer." CreationDate="2018-06-25T14:20:59.270" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17551" PostId="8398" Score="1" Text="Clean attire for...what? I'm not wearing my sunday best to sparring class. Conversely, I'm not wearing my grungies to a testing. I have close to a dozen varieties of BB rattling around my gear bags, in various states of &quot;newness&quot;." CreationDate="2018-06-25T14:22:31.403" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17552" PostId="8397" Score="0" Text="Rewording applied" CreationDate="2018-06-25T14:23:04.737" UserId="5578" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17553" PostId="8397" Score="0" Text="What if I instead asked ‘Should you tap when your back is taken, your opponent is trying to apply a rear naked choke, you have your neck protected and can breathe normally, but there is an uncomfortable amount of pressure from the back bend ?’" CreationDate="2018-06-25T14:27:41.200" UserId="5578" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17554" PostId="8402" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site! This is a nice question." CreationDate="2018-06-26T06:21:37.093" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17555" PostId="8402" Score="0" Text="Is that a Karate belt test?" CreationDate="2018-06-26T08:06:38.863" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17556" PostId="8402" Score="8" Text="thats just under 1 kick a second for an hour - I wouldn't expect anyone to be delivering kicks with any power, and very quickly I'd expect the technique to be pretty terrible. That is a very intense and strange belt test" CreationDate="2018-06-26T10:29:03.600" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17557" PostId="8187" Score="0" Text="What form and style did you practice?" CreationDate="2018-06-26T11:45:12.417" UserId="6872" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17558" PostId="8402" Score="3" Text="Questionable requirement by your instructor. Requiring that many kicks over a small-ish period of time encourages sloppy and weak kicks. Speed is important. But so is precision, form, and power. This makes me wonder if you're doing a point-based martial art like Taekwondo. Your powerlifting stats suggest you are not overly bulky in terms of muscle size, so I don't think that's a real problem. I think it's more likely what you're required to do almost guarantees that you can't use that much power. The most noodly looking legs in the class wins. Pity." CreationDate="2018-06-26T15:32:45.000" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17559" PostId="8402" Score="1" Text="As for how to improve, you're going to have to relax your major muscles (quad, hamstring, glutes) while you kick. You'll need to practice fast twitch kicking, which involves utilizing non-major muscle groups more than you might be used to. This way, you'll reduce antagonistic muscle reflex, thereby improving speed. And you'll stop burning your major muscle so much, which means your endurance will improve. Slap it out. This is going to emphasize your hip flexors / abductors / adductors. It's going to actually kick your ass, because you probably haven't been developing those muscles." CreationDate="2018-06-26T15:43:50.627" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17561" PostId="8405" Score="0" Text="Why do you think it's wrong? The tilt you speak of is there for a reason, to reduce tension. The only other way of achieving that without tilting the pelvis is to angle the back foot out a little more and bending at the back knee. Then you have a Taiji stance. And Taiji is kind of the authority here. They do it for one reason: Maintaining balance in the joints. If the joints are not centered in their range, then it means you're unable to adapt to forces on the joint that would cause it to reach its limit. Balance is the primary issue. Channeling power is the other. The stance allows for both." CreationDate="2018-06-27T05:22:07.853" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17562" PostId="8405" Score="0" Text="I expanded the explanation and added images." CreationDate="2018-06-27T08:52:05.590" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17563" PostId="8406" Score="0" Text="Teaching a class is difficult - its made much worse in this scenario - making the jump from fellow student to &quot;instructor&quot; is much harder than running your own class - where they only ever see you as instructor. Other than practice and being very strict the first couple of lessons - I don't know what to suggest (good answers will certainly help me out too)." CreationDate="2018-06-27T09:47:45.967" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17564" PostId="8409" Score="1" Text="I had a feeling this was a duplicate but cannot seem to find a post on the topic. It's a good question - I have been asked this many times." CreationDate="2018-06-27T13:05:51.360" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17565" PostId="8187" Score="0" Text="YANG Style Long Form 108 movements." CreationDate="2018-06-27T13:15:51.463" UserId="9178" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17566" PostId="8408" Score="0" Text="Handing off an old battered belt as a memento to a worthy student is nice - (surely more regularly than every ten years though - mine are noticeably damaged after 1 year). Do people actually wear the beaten up belts that are handed to them? (If my instructors gave me such a belt it would be placed on my memory shelf - wearing it would feel 'wrong') Is the standard for those without such a belt to wear a new belt and replace regularly? (if remaining the same grade for a long time - otherwise they get a new belt anyway)." CreationDate="2018-06-27T14:02:27.073" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17567" PostId="8411" Score="1" Text="If you are going to do push up (or whatever), make damned sure you and everyone on the instructor team does them as well." CreationDate="2018-06-27T14:40:48.507" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17568" PostId="8409" Score="2" Text="Some styles of karate teach both haisoku (top of foot) mawashi geri (circular kick, impacts opponent from the side) and chusoku (ball of foot) mawashi geri (forwards kick, impacts opponent from the front - as described [in Collett89's answer](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/8410/9212)) which are both useful *in different situations*.  Then, of course, there's Tsumasaki Mawashi Geri, kicking with the tip of the big-toe.  Only, if *ever*, attempt after **lots** of conditioning on a makiwara..." CreationDate="2018-06-27T15:14:21.580" UserId="9212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17569" PostId="8402" Score="0" Text="@DanielReis Certainly *sounds* like one of Hanshi Arneil's old training sessions down in London...  &quot;We've got 30 black belts tonight - I want a hundred-count from each of you.  Mawashi geri, left leg first...  ICHI!&quot;.  And, of course, &quot;You lost the count - again, from the top!&quot;" CreationDate="2018-06-27T15:54:47.440" UserId="9212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17570" PostId="8408" Score="0" Text="They actually do wear them I think and you usually wear the same belt as long as you the rank for it . At least this is how it goes down in my dojo." CreationDate="2018-06-27T16:59:17.547" UserId="9379" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17571" PostId="6737" Score="2" Text="Don't forget Master Ken, 11th degree for years now." CreationDate="2018-06-27T17:15:21.517" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17572" PostId="8412" Score="2" Text="I believe this is specific to some martial arts, no?" CreationDate="2018-06-27T18:37:40.450" UserId="2041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17573" PostId="8417" Score="0" Text="Please take the [tour](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour). As this post does not answer your question (I assume this is a separate unregistered account from the same person who asked this question), it should be edited into the question." CreationDate="2018-06-28T02:46:49.920" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17574" PostId="8418" Score="0" Text="I like this answer, please keep in mind as well it depends n the opponent and the situation.  The basic block is for basic self defense, not mma.  Naturally if someone slings a slow wide punch a block could be just perfect to diffuse the situation.  If someone throws fast trained multiphase attacks the block might actually be a trap for a grab or takedown.  Situation makes a huge difference!" CreationDate="2018-06-28T04:47:34.313" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17575" PostId="8422" Score="0" Text="the hall where I train and teach is often shared with some very noisy badminton players ← Are you training in the same place I am?" CreationDate="2018-06-28T08:46:42.837" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17576" PostId="8422" Score="0" Text=":) Do 'your' badminton players act as if they're at the Olympics?!" CreationDate="2018-06-28T08:51:51.153" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17577" PostId="7972" Score="0" Text="In Karate, there is what is sometimes known as the &quot;Okinawan fist&quot; for people where the knuckle of the first-finger sticks out like that:  Start with an open hand, curl the ends of the middle/ring/little fingers over (leaving index finger straight), then fold *all* the fingers in - the index finger will be pointing into the thenar muscle (palm of hand, at base of thumb)  Then wrap the thumb over the index and middle fingers - this should pull the index fingertip across until it overlaps the middle finger." CreationDate="2018-06-28T09:18:01.943" UserId="9212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17578" PostId="8422" Score="0" Text="There's grunting, shouting, cries of victory and despair… Sometimes, there's even air horns and thrice cursed vuvuzela." CreationDate="2018-06-28T09:35:41.157" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17579" PostId="8422" Score="1" Text="Never had air horns and vuvuzelas; I consider myself blessed now!" CreationDate="2018-06-28T09:59:53.923" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17580" PostId="8405" Score="0" Text="Two things: First, it's unlikely that this tilt is present in the long stance, but not in other stances. I don't really understand the emphasis on this stance. Second, what is &quot;natural&quot; on this point is debated. I have seen very strongly worded arguments both for more straightening and not tucking from people within the same systems." CreationDate="2018-06-28T14:05:37.023" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17581" PostId="8418" Score="0" Text="But we're talking about using traditional karate blocks as blocks. They don't work well for that purpose. And as for the idea of these blocks (being used as blocks) being effective against untrained people who punch slow, that's probably the wrong way to see it. Even untrained people instinctively throw a flurry of punches. Like with sparring a boxer, it doesn't work well in that situation. Besides which, I would hope your many years of karate practice would allow you to fight people who know how to fight, not just untrained people. That's a pretty low bar." CreationDate="2018-06-28T16:03:18.477" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17582" PostId="8412" Score="1" Text="I have edited out the self promotion, as it does not add anything to the answer and could be considered spamming. You are welcome to include this information in your profile. It would also help if you could indicate to which art you are referring to in your answer." CreationDate="2018-06-28T17:48:30.880" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17583" PostId="8425" Score="0" Text="Re. The diagrams: The arrows are force directions" CreationDate="2018-06-28T22:15:32.333" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17584" PostId="8424" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site. I would strong urge you to read the [help] to see how we work." CreationDate="2018-06-29T06:27:22.550" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17585" PostId="8424" Score="1" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because we do require you to do a modicum of prior research before you ask a question." CreationDate="2018-06-29T06:27:37.150" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17586" PostId="8425" Score="0" Text="As my instructor often quotes &quot;Best block, no be there&quot;." CreationDate="2018-06-29T07:58:50.373" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17588" PostId="8418" Score="1" Text="The point isn’t an achievement bar.  Complex blocks and movements are still “blocks”.  Blocking a punch period is useful vs. not blocking it at all.  If self defense is the goal it is definitely helpful, if competition is the goal, then a more complex strategy is needed than just blocking an attack, that is my only point and why it’s a comment" CreationDate="2018-06-29T18:26:13.237" UserId="8108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17589" PostId="8430" Score="5" Text="Watch US news, I think you will not conclude that the police know how to avoid looking brutal." CreationDate="2018-07-01T12:07:52.927" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17591" PostId="8430" Score="5" Text="Do you have any evidence to back your assertion that *&quot;if they are videoed it would not look brutal&quot;*? A lot of control techniques are subtle or don't involve a massive range of movement so they don't explicitly look brutal." CreationDate="2018-07-02T06:44:05.590" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17592" PostId="8397" Score="0" Text="Am not sure about RNC, but twister / zombie twister will definitely have an impact on spine." CreationDate="2018-07-02T06:57:22.053" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17593" PostId="8321" Score="0" Text="For me, it will always be a plus point to practice both orthodox as well as southpaw, hence it won't matter what your dominant arm is." CreationDate="2018-07-02T07:01:05.750" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17594" PostId="8430" Score="5" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because there is no evidence that it has anything to do with reality.  Move it to snopes.com" CreationDate="2018-07-02T10:58:36.693" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17595" PostId="8430" Score="3" Text="I feel like there's a decent question here about how to do techniques discreetly. Admittedly, my brain goes more to ninja than to security personnel..." CreationDate="2018-07-02T12:20:42.180" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17597" PostId="8433" Score="1" Text="Possible duplicate of [Defence in martial arts in general](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/6498/defence-in-martial-arts-in-general)" CreationDate="2018-07-03T17:10:15.350" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17600" PostId="8433" Score="0" Text="In a Competition or streetfight? Any answer will heavily differ if looking at each scenario. In a competition you have a certain style and rules, so it will be much easier to anticipate possible attacks." CreationDate="2018-07-03T21:42:00.507" UserId="1631" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17601" PostId="8374" Score="1" Text="There are rules and conventions. Kata and forms weren't just thrown together willy nilly. What's really been lost, (hidden) are the rules and conventions by which kata / forms were compiled. Once you have those, decoding the original meaning becomes far simpler. In fact kata aren't all that difficult to decode once you know how, and they're remarkably robust information carriers. My advice is to start with Seikichi Toguchi, who gave the game away in English in his 2001 book: &quot;Okinawan Goju-Ryu II: Advanced Techniques of Shorei-Kan Karate&quot;" CreationDate="2018-07-03T22:48:18.407" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17602" PostId="8433" Score="0" Text="In a streetfight" CreationDate="2018-07-04T02:29:14.067" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17603" PostId="8435" Score="1" Text="Interesting that having been open for a year-and-a-half, lots of people have discussed the application of the arm positions, but no one has answered the other half of the question:  The stance itself is just Musubi-dachi, typically a stance taught quite early on - after all, it is the stance used for bowing!" CreationDate="2018-07-04T07:31:00.103" UserId="9212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17604" PostId="8434" Score="0" Text="I'm going to disagree with the last line (but *only* the last line - the rest of this post is a pretty good breakdown on learning to control space and read your opponent):  Teaching someone to always retreat in a self-defence situation is a bad idea.  Teach them to evade sideways.  Teach them to push forwards and make their *attacker* retreat.  Do **not** teach them to walk backwards off the tatami or into a wall/corner/elevator shaft." CreationDate="2018-07-04T08:01:41.167" UserId="9212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17605" PostId="8434" Score="3" Text="I get your point but the retreat here is after they have already either pushed the attacker back or stepped sideways. The point is that they disengage, and this is for legal reasons as much as any other. You don't want to be seen to be an purportraiter of violence." CreationDate="2018-07-04T08:25:53.247" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17608" PostId="8398" Score="2" Text="I do not see why this question is primarily opinion-based. It is asking a question about martial arts culture. Fraying of the belt is acceptable in ways that fraying of the rest of the uniform is not. A good answer would explain this difference." CreationDate="2018-07-05T10:53:48.080" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17609" PostId="8433" Score="0" Text="I still think the OP has something confused - telegraphing is about long distance (by definition) and typically used for techniques that have an obvious wind up (or that the defender knows is coming in advance). Giving the defender more time and distance to avoid it. Could you describe the type of attack you are on about without using the word &quot;telegraph&quot;? (as by all standards we know - these are the easiest attacks to defend)" CreationDate="2018-07-05T11:29:28.610" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17610" PostId="8433" Score="4" Text="Whereas, defending from a &quot;telepathic&quot; attack will be discussed on the X-men comics Stack Exchange. ;)" CreationDate="2018-07-05T16:24:58.850" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17611" PostId="8433" Score="0" Text="I've edited this to be about non-telegraphed attacks because this seemed to be the intent, based on less time to react and the accepted answer." CreationDate="2018-07-06T12:48:20.640" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17612" PostId="8435" Score="1" Text="The specifics of stances are usually relatively unimportant in reality. It's the general body positioning they provide that matters more. Forwards, backwards, high, low. Legs being used as barriers, lunging etc. Hence different styles making use of different stances. Stance is really just a component of the kamae (posture) as a whole and shouldn't be considered separately. The type of deductive analysis we tend to do in the west; isolating and categorising components of the whole posture does not work well with kata." CreationDate="2018-07-06T21:35:03.783" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17613" PostId="7007" Score="0" Text="I think you're maligning Funakoshi a little. He originated 2 styles; Shotokan and Shotokai and in reality it's Shotokai that is his direct legacy, when you look at how they practice it's clear they do have the applications. I think I'd aim more at the JKA who were looking for an accompaniment to judo and the lack of clarity that Shotokan was designed as such.&#xA;Also. The problem really isn't specific to karate, or Shotokan. Kung-fu has _exactly_ the same problem, for exactly the reason you elucidated. The explanations coming out of the Shaolin schools for example are equally garbage." CreationDate="2018-07-06T22:02:43.457" UserId="6808" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17615" PostId="7007" Score="0" Text="@ColinSeligSmith You're right that many if not most kung-fu schools are equally as bad about it, usually for similar reasons. And I'm aware of Shotokai. It's just that it's irrelevant. Funakoshi did not teach bunkai in his shotokan, for a number of reasons. That decision eliminated the self-defense skill. And shotokan is what popularized the art. He might have taught the complete art in a different branch or to a select few, but that doesn't absolve him of the blame insofar as the state of modern day karate is concerned. The blame is shared, though, with all the sensei since him." CreationDate="2018-07-08T15:49:01.777" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17617" PostId="6927" Score="0" Text="What does &quot;If those were more woolly, they would baa…&quot; mean?" CreationDate="2018-07-10T16:03:43.957" UserId="8476" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17618" PostId="8440" Score="2" Text="By &quot;sustain&quot;, do you mean they wait for the attack, or take it without attempting to defend themselves?" CreationDate="2018-07-10T17:28:31.567" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17621" PostId="6927" Score="0" Text="@Ooker [Woolly](https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/woolly) means *Vague or confused in expression or character* or *Made of wool.* I am making a pun on both meanings as sheep baa: If those were more woolly (read: vague and confused), they would baa (read: be like a sheep who baas). Does that make sense?" CreationDate="2018-07-11T06:54:51.960" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17622" PostId="6927" Score="0" Text="so if the measurement is vague and confused, they should be like a sheep? I thought &quot;sheep&quot; is more alluded to stupid, not vagueness?" CreationDate="2018-07-11T12:38:31.727" UserId="8476" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17623" PostId="8440" Score="10" Text="Movies do not represent real life, they're fictional." CreationDate="2018-07-11T12:58:15.507" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17624" PostId="6927" Score="0" Text="@Ooker It's meant to a funny word play." CreationDate="2018-07-11T13:05:49.100" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17629" PostId="7972" Score="0" Text="@Chronocidal interesting, thanks for the info. I will definitely try this during my training." CreationDate="2018-07-12T21:38:57.373" UserId="8828" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17630" PostId="8446" Score="0" Text="A little harsh as I can think of some effective combinations that would look like that. However, over all you are quiet right." CreationDate="2018-07-13T07:12:35.500" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17631" PostId="8447" Score="0" Text="Whilst I agree - injuries in martial arts are inevitable - the same is true of almost every sport. Where a class is run with adequate risk assessment and precaution the benefits surely out weigh the risks.&#xA;So injuries are something that just happen *ANYWHERE* - we can reduce the chance but never avoid it entirely" CreationDate="2018-07-13T09:35:09.487" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17632" PostId="8446" Score="0" Text="Keep in mind I am only referring to when the instructor keeps on doing many things after his student stops." CreationDate="2018-07-13T11:37:52.273" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17633" PostId="8446" Score="0" Text="We are in agreement I think. I was thinking of a &quot;quick&quot; set of jabs &amp; hooks or a punch, balance break, and wrist lock or throw followed by a pin… Those are &quot;many things&quot; and the students &quot;stops&quot; (read: cannot/should not react)." CreationDate="2018-07-13T11:45:17.913" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17634" PostId="8446" Score="0" Text="Well something like a wrist grab immediately to a standing arm bar and then showing a throw from the arm bar is fine. That’s the objective of the arm bar. But what about then after applying the arm bar, the instructor does some kicks to his legs, a punch to the face, take him down, step around, stomp to his head, knee on his back, crank the arm for an elbow break, reach down and choke him, followed by a neck break, then jump away and cover block out for good measure? Haha. I see this all the time in martial arts. It’s like martial masturbation. Makes the instructor feel god-like." CreationDate="2018-07-13T11:58:05.980" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17636" PostId="1805" Score="0" Text="I'm appalled by how the community are treating questions like this. It's a legitimate concern that few martial artists or indeed any sportsmen are willing to address until they get a life changing injury. Will attempt to answer this weekend. In the meantime see my questions on the topic." CreationDate="2018-07-13T18:07:16.590" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17637" PostId="1808" Score="0" Text="You clearly don't have a clue about the topic and avoid thinking about it because you don't want to believe that you are putting yourself in danger. Not all risks are equal. That is the job of probability. To inform us on these topics. This question deserves a numerical answer with calculations and evidence." CreationDate="2018-07-13T18:10:15.287" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17638" PostId="1805" Score="0" Text="https://martialarts.meta.stackexchange.com/q/466/6503 you can see here that many of those active on this forum are completely irrational and hostile in their approach to this topic." CreationDate="2018-07-13T18:29:25.273" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17639" PostId="8451" Score="0" Text="Just to be clear, headgear is more a precaution, not a treatment once you already have cauliflower ear." CreationDate="2018-07-15T14:54:47.250" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17640" PostId="4620" Score="0" Text="Yes, indeed. We sometimes refer to them as Dadao as well. &quot;Da&quot; is the word big, so multiple slashing Dao are sometimes referred to as Dadao." CreationDate="2018-07-15T19:21:28.770" UserId="4435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17641" PostId="8452" Score="2" Text="Same terms are used in Aikido…" CreationDate="2018-07-16T07:58:15.347" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17642" PostId="8452" Score="0" Text="Interesting. I wander how recent they are. They may be Jujitsu terms or could be terms coined by So Doshin or Mori Ushiba and transferred to the other art by students that trained under both." CreationDate="2018-07-16T08:43:20.347" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17643" PostId="8452" Score="1" Text="As far as I know they more or less translations of before the attack, during the attack, after the attack, make your own timing…" CreationDate="2018-07-16T08:49:42.917" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17644" PostId="8452" Score="0" Text="From the little Japanese I know that doesn't seem right. 'no' is a possessive. A bit like the word of. Sen means timing. So 'something no sen' would be 'timing of something'." CreationDate="2018-07-16T08:56:20.803" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17645" PostId="8452" Score="0" Text="We would need to see the kanji to be sure. Romanji can be tricky: shi ← Do I mean 4 or Death?  ☺" CreationDate="2018-07-16T09:20:11.110" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17646" PostId="8452" Score="1" Text="True that. I'll check with one of my Japanese speaking friends." CreationDate="2018-07-16T10:07:37.983" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17647" PostId="8450" Score="0" Text="There's probably dozens of compound descriptions!  Combine any of slip/dodge/shift/lean (and many I haven't thought of) with any punch you care to name - straight/jab/cross/overhand/hook/uppercut .... Having one phrase to describe something that can happen a thousand different ways would be kinda odd.  : )" CreationDate="2018-07-16T11:16:39.910" UserId="8536" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17649" PostId="574" Score="2" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because stage combat is explicitly off-topic." CreationDate="2018-07-17T19:54:32.920" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17650" PostId="8452" Score="0" Text="Same terms used in JKA Shotokan" CreationDate="2018-07-18T07:46:09.787" UserId="1026" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17651" PostId="8451" Score="0" Text="For MMA people recovering from cauli use soft wrestling headgear. Don't wear rugby headgear, it's too cumbersome." CreationDate="2018-07-18T18:41:58.180" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17652" PostId="8450" Score="0" Text="I might try:&#xA;  &quot;dodging attack&quot;&#xA;  &quot;evasive attack&quot;&#xA;  &quot;defensive attack&quot;" CreationDate="2018-07-19T12:40:15.823" UserId="9409" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17653" PostId="5887" Score="0" Text="*Somersaults*..!?  Wow.  Intriguing.  A more achievable alternative might be simple forward roles along the matt." CreationDate="2018-07-19T12:46:00.983" UserId="8536" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17654" PostId="4503" Score="0" Text="Ironically, if you look up some Thai natives sparring in a gym on youtube you'll see them sparring completely pad free and with great control, camraderie (and humour), and safety. They probably know a bit about effective sustainable training." CreationDate="2018-07-19T13:31:50.373" UserId="8536" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17658" PostId="8458" Score="0" Text="The question uses the parry term to ask for a similar one where the attack is not parried but dodged." CreationDate="2018-07-20T14:13:45.357" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17659" PostId="8405" Score="0" Text="In all seriousness: Stretch your hip flexor. The exercises against the pathology help here as well as all they do is strengthening the antagonist and stretching." CreationDate="2018-07-20T21:38:31.163" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17661" PostId="8458" Score="0" Text="@mattm In my opinion there is no better term." CreationDate="2018-07-23T07:03:37.307" UserId="9020" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17662" PostId="8463" Score="3" Text="You need to speak to a doctor or physiotherapist. Medical advice from the Internet shouldn't be trusted." CreationDate="2018-07-23T08:54:29.637" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17663" PostId="8468" Score="0" Text="Side note, I highly advise reading Steve Weigand's treatise on TKD kicks at https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/2937/1780" CreationDate="2018-07-24T14:10:18.023" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17664" PostId="8467" Score="0" Text="https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/6044/what-are-the-advantages-to-adding-a-jump-to-a-kick might be a useful read." CreationDate="2018-07-24T14:10:53.807" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17665" PostId="8468" Score="1" Text="Just as a confirmation about control - I sparred a match where my opponent continually double (X) blocked low front kicks. I faked a low front kick, then a jump round. He swept his arms up to block, unfortunately taking my intended landing leg with it. Ended up dumping on my head from it." CreationDate="2018-07-24T14:12:11.763" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17666" PostId="2937" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand - Just a side note. You're never a &quot;former&quot; black belt. You're just not practicing. :)" CreationDate="2018-07-24T14:12:53.780" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17667" PostId="8205" Score="0" Text="Given who they routinely guard, I would be surprised if there are *any* accurate representations of what/how they train in the public sector." CreationDate="2018-07-24T18:57:57.610" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17668" PostId="4732" Score="0" Text="When  you're attacked." CreationDate="2018-07-26T09:38:23.947" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17669" PostId="8475" Score="3" Text="To a non-karate-ka, this looks like many questions… Could you clarify what your exact problem is?" CreationDate="2018-07-26T14:51:20.537" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17672" PostId="8483" Score="0" Text="Perfect, I stretch twice daily, I will implement this solo technique you mentioned. I see what your saying about the kumite vs kihon. Thanks, really appreciate the comments!" CreationDate="2018-07-27T15:05:09.750" UserId="9435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17673" PostId="8479" Score="0" Text="Thanks, I appreciate your comments in regards to the video. The lack of squareness is what I was confused about as well, when performing a &quot;proper&quot; mawashi geri." CreationDate="2018-07-27T15:07:44.157" UserId="9435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17674" PostId="8475" Score="0" Text="Please read my answer at the following link. In it, you'll see other links, so follow those to get the full picture. Bottom line is you need to cross-train in classical jujitsu or something similar. Then you'll be able to see it in your kata. Because, that's what it is: https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/8373/why-do-we-teach-unrealistic-bunkai/8374#8374" CreationDate="2018-07-27T15:12:25.740" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17675" PostId="8480" Score="1" Text="Primarily because the front trachea choke is so easy to defend against and just ends up giving their opponents their arms. Nobody will use it on you, because they know that it makes them vulnerable. That being said, it should be demonstrated more often in class, just so people can feel what it feels like, should they actually encounter it in real life." CreationDate="2018-07-27T15:15:36.973" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17676" PostId="4657" Score="0" Text="So much for &quot;build a more peaceful world&quot;! The people at the top of these organisations should learn to put their differences a side, and get along for the benefit of their students!" CreationDate="2018-07-29T07:53:49.050" UserId="8042" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17678" PostId="8481" Score="1" Text="ryu-te jime can be effective in no gi bjj, i.e. simply by pressing the fists together when being in a good position (hands near hips). This actually chokes less experienced guys out at times. But that's the only thing I can think of." CreationDate="2018-07-29T20:18:27.460" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17679" PostId="4653" Score="0" Text="Fun video regarding &quot;Judo needs a gi to be effective!&quot;: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfRgoy1bC7k" CreationDate="2018-07-29T20:22:16.083" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17680" PostId="8475" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion If i made it simple than I have just asked how Kata (Forms) would be helpful to create effective self defense moves?" CreationDate="2018-07-30T05:08:01.980" UserId="8501" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17687" PostId="8487" Score="4" Text="This is marketing stuff from a fat out-of-shape guy with compliant partners. The idea regarding real fighting is not &quot;invisibility&quot;, but not telegraphing and using basic mechanics of the human ability to see movements. Also, this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdPP0TmqKiU" CreationDate="2018-08-03T12:29:32.927" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17690" PostId="288" Score="0" Text="Both Jean-Claude Van Damme (who has an impressive kick-boxing record) and Arnold Schwarzenegger practiced ballet. These men are the manliest of men I can think of. Just throwing that out there." CreationDate="2018-08-03T18:40:57.493" UserId="9435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17691" PostId="8477" Score="0" Text="So having spent quite a bit of time on this, I believe I may have come to a result. I discovered I have a anterior tilted pelvis, essentially I tend to stick my butt out (curving in my spine). I discovered when I push my butt in (or shift my pelvis anterior), I do not get any issues. I also feel how weak certain muscle groups are. From what I have read, this has do to having very strong hip flexors, and weak gluts / core. I have been utilizing exercises focused on minimizing the use of my hip flexors, while working on my gluts and core. Huge improvement!" CreationDate="2018-08-03T20:28:36.840" UserId="9435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17692" PostId="8405" Score="0" Text="Definitely watch this video for effective exercises: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-CrEi0ymMg. Further, I have this problem and noticed this issue when performing the horse stance. When I notice and correct it, my horse stance is far more effective (i.e. I feel it in the appropriate muscles). Weak gluts and core results in overactive hip flexors essentially compensating for the weak muscles. To fix this issue (in general, but specifically in a stance), essentially squeeze your gluts an flex your core (as these muscles are not being utilized correctly)." CreationDate="2018-08-03T20:35:15.603" UserId="9435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17693" PostId="8489" Score="0" Text="One thing to notice is the ulna (bone from elbow to &quot;pinkie&quot; finger side of wrist) side of the forearm is resting along the tonfa so the tonfa isn't just prevented from rotating by the hand grip.  You're probably already doing that instinctively though." CreationDate="2018-08-04T02:43:26.653" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17694" PostId="8487" Score="0" Text="As well a telegraphing &amp; perception aspects Philip mentions, you may want to search for &quot;broken rhythm&quot; - the ideas that by varying the timing, angles, patterns and level of commitment/power of your strikes it's harder for your opponent to consistently be tensed to receive them (which your &quot;invisible strike&quot; video mentions is the aim of striking suddenly rather than letting the opponent tense up).  [This video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-MaAq46VHU) is illustrative." CreationDate="2018-08-04T02:49:35.510" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17695" PostId="8491" Score="0" Text="I'd say it is different from dumbbell push ups. With them, you have to stabilize one axis a lot (mainly shoulder and chest) and the other one not at all. With tonfa, there is a little play in all directions generally, but the wrist is stressed mainly in one direction. I'd reckon it is a different feeling and uses the muscle groups and their interplay differently." CreationDate="2018-08-04T18:07:16.430" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17704" PostId="8487" Score="1" Text="Here is a great demonstration of an invisible energy attack, although I'm not knowledgeable of the technique myself: https://youtu.be/9QEHZ2yccco?t=122" CreationDate="2018-08-06T07:58:26.003" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17705" PostId="8484" Score="0" Text="so what are your perspective on WKF Team KATA and BUNKAI presentations ?" CreationDate="2018-08-06T13:24:22.507" UserId="8501" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17707" PostId="8484" Score="0" Text="@NisargDesai - WKF is, at its core, sports karate. While there is nothing inherently wrong with sports karate, it suffered a lot during the import process to Japan, where &quot;dangerous&quot; techniques such as grappling and joint locks were mostly removed from the original Okinawan arts. This, in turn, affected a lot of the original bunkai, which had to be redesigned to make sense in a non-grappling context. Some of my favorite examples can be found in [this Unsu demonstration](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OztWOFMSNbo)." CreationDate="2018-08-07T01:51:14.047" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17708" PostId="8484" Score="0" Text="@NisargDesai - At [3:45](https://youtu.be/OztWOFMSNbo?t=3m45s), you can see  tori go to the ground to avoid a punch. Why would you to that? The bunkai I was taught started with tori being pushed to the ground and uke closing in for ground combat. Tori moves to his side and uses his ground-side foot to block uke's shin while kicking his stomach with his other foot. After that, tori uses his kicking foot to heel kick behind uke's knee while using the other to hook uke's shin/foot. Tori then rolls over his falling opponent and completes the leg lock." CreationDate="2018-08-07T02:00:27.663" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17709" PostId="8484" Score="0" Text="@NisargDesai - At [4:21](https://youtu.be/OztWOFMSNbo?t=4m21s), tori is defending against 2 attackers while never looking at one of them and just blocking behind him. How cool is that?! For this same technique, I was taught a leg grab. The hand that &quot;blocks&quot; behind is in fact grabbing uke's front leg (or his pants) while the one that strikes in front is either grabbing a handful of clothes and pushing uke backward or doing a reverse knife hand to the throat to complete the takedown. [Not 100% identical, but the same principle is used here](https://youtu.be/R-TLoawXrgA?t=49s)." CreationDate="2018-08-07T02:21:07.220" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17710" PostId="8499" Score="4" Text="I feel that any answer to this question would be based on the situation too much. Like crime rate per city, life habits (going out and whatnot), day/night schedule, transport, urban or rural areas, family situation, etc.&#xA;I don't think giving specific numbers would be possible. You could look at census data for assaults per inhabitant I suppose, but I think it is too situational." CreationDate="2018-08-07T18:53:51.817" UserId="9394" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17711" PostId="8499" Score="1" Text="Nothing wrong with crime statistics. It might vary between cities, but the weighted average could be used. In the UK it's actually all in the same ballpark. I don't know about other countries which is why I am asking." CreationDate="2018-08-07T20:09:57.117" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17712" PostId="8500" Score="0" Text="That's great,  This is exactly what I am looking for, But can we get something similar for other countries?  USA?  Rest of Europe?  Just so the question isn't localized too much." CreationDate="2018-08-07T20:38:23.033" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17713" PostId="8500" Score="3" Text="FBI Universal Crime Report for the United States: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/preliminary-report" CreationDate="2018-08-07T21:05:57.127" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17714" PostId="8499" Score="0" Text="&quot;Battery&quot; is an offence in the UK, too." CreationDate="2018-08-08T07:35:29.977" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17715" PostId="8499" Score="1" Text="It's not called battery. It's called assault occasioning actual bodily harm or grievous bodily harm" CreationDate="2018-08-08T07:45:02.447" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17716" PostId="8499" Score="1" Text="If one claims to teach &quot;self defence&quot;, that is a minimum of research that one should do. Otherwise, it's just fabulation. Personal experience (be it LEO or military) is just sampling data or just anecdotal…" CreationDate="2018-08-08T08:50:50.243" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17718" PostId="8452" Score="0" Text="After some research, I am increasingly sceptical regarding the description of &quot;tai no sen&quot;. The description confuses the homonyms for &quot;body&quot; and &quot;waiting&quot;. Japanese sources with academic translations like [this one](http://kendo.union.rpi.edu/Reidan%20Jichi%20-%20Seme.pdf) indicate that a third homonym - &quot;opposing&quot; - would make much more sense in that triad of &quot;states of mind&quot;: Facing the initiative with (faster) counter-initiative and thus being correspondent to &quot;sen(-no-sen)&quot;." CreationDate="2018-08-08T15:07:16.913" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17720" PostId="8452" Score="0" Text="You are Probably correct let me change that" CreationDate="2018-08-08T15:17:58.717" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17721" PostId="8452" Score="0" Text="The translation anyway... This is definitely how we define these terms in the style I learn." CreationDate="2018-08-08T15:19:40.137" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17733" PostId="8484" Score="0" Text="I see what you mean so  its like you have to think to find answer how you may turn KATA`s move to either hit your opponent or takedown after using first block. not highly generalize but some sort of I guess. thanks for the links for example I really Appreciate that." CreationDate="2018-08-09T11:22:10.710" UserId="8501" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17734" PostId="8487" Score="3" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because &quot;invisible strike&quot; is not martial arts, it is acting." CreationDate="2018-08-09T12:32:07.913" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17736" PostId="8499" Score="1" Text="Not an answer related to statistics or likelyhood of winning/losing fight. With 40+ years of Aikido teaching experience I can safely state that my training does nothing more or less than enhancing my chances. There are no guarantees whatsoever that any amount of training will make you &quot;invincible&quot;.&#xA;What martial arts training does, however, if taken seriously, is enhance your awareness of situations, your ability to &quot;read&quot; agression, and your ability to defuse confrontations.&#xA;I've been asked by students in the past if I ever used my Aikido in the streets. My answer, to this day, is: &quot;Yes, on a" CreationDate="2018-08-08T18:01:59.813" UserId="6704" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17737" PostId="8499" Score="0" Text="Battery is a common law offence in the UK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_(crime)." CreationDate="2018-08-09T15:22:26.213" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17739" PostId="8499" Score="0" Text="@mattm I know, but if you have a chance to defend it is subsumed into the offence assault occasioning actual bodily harm or grievous bodily harm. You don't say 'assault and battery occasioning actual bodily harm' or even 'assault and battery'." CreationDate="2018-08-09T16:14:44.257" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17741" PostId="7467" Score="0" Text="Incidentally, I was rereading this and I appreciate the detail you gave." CreationDate="2018-08-12T13:47:14.663" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17742" PostId="8505" Score="0" Text="I definitely agree about raising the shoulder towards your ear - took me ages to break that habit!" CreationDate="2018-08-13T10:39:17.510" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17743" PostId="8507" Score="2" Text="Other than duplicating the sentiments of Amorphous Blobs answer in your last paragraph this does not answer the question." CreationDate="2018-08-13T14:00:28.363" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17744" PostId="8507" Score="1" Text="Please elaborate why you think the answer is not there.  I clearly distinguished aspects of martial arts that at times have no self defense.  Is kata the same as self defense  or tournament fighting?" CreationDate="2018-08-13T14:04:44.433" UserId="8964" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17745" PostId="8507" Score="2" Text="As per the question title. 'Suppose you know a martial art. How likely are you to get a chance to use it for self defense?' - whilst I agree with the majority of the points raised in your answer - it is not an answer to the question asked - nor does it try to be. Adding some figures with source citations - or adding to your answer that the reasons you give are why such figures would be misleading would go some way to making the answer complete." CreationDate="2018-08-13T14:19:52.977" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17746" PostId="8507" Score="2" Text="I agree, but you can still use a martial art or aspects of it for self defense. This does not answer my question or make the question invalid." CreationDate="2018-08-13T15:07:06.937" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17747" PostId="817" Score="0" Text="Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been [moved to chat](https://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/81591/discussion-on-answer-by-dave-liepmann-which-martial-arts-focus-on-self-defense)." CreationDate="2018-08-13T15:28:51.673" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17748" PostId="8507" Score="1" Text="Comments are intended to help improve or clarify questions and answers, and the be nice policy still applies. Please avoiding insulting people." CreationDate="2018-08-13T15:31:51.047" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17749" PostId="154" Score="0" Text="I trained at a club where periodically each of us was expected to &quot;start&quot; on someone else, at some point in the lesson. Not sneak up and hit them in the back, not say &quot;I pick you&quot;, bow, and spar - but maybe bump someone while walking by then round on them and get immediately in their face aggressive. This might progress to &quot;violence&quot;, it might not. The &quot;violence&quot; might be instigated by the aggressor or the defender - who would afterwards need to justify it if it was them. It caused big adrenaline hits and was great fun. (Not an answer as there are already so many. Though mostly awful!)" CreationDate="2018-08-14T11:20:05.427" UserId="8536" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17750" PostId="8510" Score="0" Text="This is correct. I would just add that there is also value in trying it with the same leg forward. Both methods occur in the forms if I recall correctly (assuming this is TKD or Karate). But for power, the opposite leg forward is the way to go generally speaking." CreationDate="2018-08-14T21:01:17.920" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17751" PostId="8510" Score="0" Text="Hmmm, maybe it's just my aging lower back, but when my opposite foot is forward I feel a little stretch (not a painful strain per se) and notice a slowing down of the rotation by the time I get much past 45 degrees past the board.  @JohnP, can you elaborate on &quot;step slightly out and past the target&quot;... with which foot?" CreationDate="2018-08-14T21:08:13.013" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17753" PostId="8510" Score="0" Text="^_^ I think this outclasses my answer." CreationDate="2018-08-14T21:38:05.547" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17754" PostId="8510" Score="0" Text="@AmorphousBlob - See my example in the post. One thing confuses me, you say you notice a slowing of the technique &quot;45 degrees past the board&quot;. Once you've passed through the board, why would you care if your technique slows down?" CreationDate="2018-08-14T21:39:52.997" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17755" PostId="8510" Score="0" Text="It's just that if it's slowing down that &quot;soon&quot;, there's less power AT the board.  I've broken both ways; I was originally just wondering how much to encourage kids to go same-side-foot-forward when they're afraid of the board anyway.  Time permitting, I hold up a kick pad and tell them to follow far thru the strike with both feet forward, then decide... but a lot of kids don't even retain instructions that are that simple, oy." CreationDate="2018-08-15T12:49:25.057" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17756" PostId="8510" Score="0" Text="@AmorphousBlob - Mmm...I think you are overstating it. If I am breaking with a ridge hand (Assuming an arc trajectory, my ridge hand is more of a punch trajectory) I want my max speed (as opposed to power, they are different) to occur an inch or two behind the target point, to ensure I am accelerating through the impact point. After that, I don't care how fast it slows down. (Additionally, the argument could be made that by carrying as much power for as long as possible actually slows the technique and opens you to more counterattack possibilities)." CreationDate="2018-08-15T14:46:45.123" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17757" PostId="8510" Score="0" Text="True... I'm finding it's hard to describe something as simple as a hand or elbow arc without demonstrating it. :)" CreationDate="2018-08-15T18:42:34.843" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17758" PostId="8507" Score="0" Text="I strongly support the spirit of Logikal's answer, but it is true, it does not answer the question.  Perhaps, a follow up paragraph saying something along the lines of &quot;martial arts is too broad a topic to answer the question; if instead, we relegate the question to only 'self-defense' and then ask 'if one were trained in self-defense what is the likelihood that one would need to use those skills'&quot;." CreationDate="2018-08-15T22:09:50.130" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17759" PostId="8513" Score="2" Text="The question could be asked without using the idea or term martial arts at all. How likely are you to have the opportunity to use self defense? The definition exact of martial arts is irrelevant. Unless you carry a weapon around (unlikely if it's a Lance) the chance of using that weapon for self defense is 0." CreationDate="2018-08-16T07:33:45.933" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17760" PostId="8499" Score="0" Text="**Comments are not for extended discussion** You could take it to chat?" CreationDate="2018-08-16T08:40:23.987" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17761" PostId="8513" Score="3" Text="I appreciate the effort you put into your answer, but I feel like this turned more into a digression on the definition of &quot;martial arts&quot; than an attempt to answer the question." CreationDate="2018-08-16T11:43:48.087" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17762" PostId="8513" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan - yes, it is a digression.  I subscribe to the unpopular view that martial arts is &quot;of, or about, war&quot;, and to that extent, I offered ideas as to why the common usage and definitions make this an unanswerable question.  Many fight, but self-defense isn't about fighting, it's about self-preservation - of which fighting is but one aspect." CreationDate="2018-08-16T13:29:38.980" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17763" PostId="8513" Score="0" Text="@HuwEvans - yes, I think if you reworded &quot;self-defense&quot; instead of &quot;martial arts&quot;, perhaps you can narrow the scope.  You might even consider asking &quot;what is the chance of you using your skills against someone - or some people - who want to physically harm you or a loved one (in a bar / with a weapon / domestic violence / etc)&quot;.  On the other hand, you could also include in your question a request to mention the skills/style/philosophy/concepts you are taught.  With this, you now have information instead of data." CreationDate="2018-08-16T13:39:05.383" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17764" PostId="8513" Score="0" Text="But I wanted data." CreationDate="2018-08-16T13:58:36.550" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17765" PostId="8513" Score="3" Text="@Wigwam: I appreciate your stance, but I do still feel that this doesn't answer the question." CreationDate="2018-08-16T13:59:05.860" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17766" PostId="8514" Score="3" Text="I can't really say that you're wrong, but your answer does make a bald statement without much support." CreationDate="2018-08-16T19:40:27.310" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17770" PostId="8516" Score="2" Text="At the moment this looks like spam and is subject to link rot. Could you make clear this is not spam (are you the author?) and sum up the article?" CreationDate="2018-08-17T07:00:56.637" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17778" PostId="8520" Score="0" Text="It definitely does. So you're saying that asides from Olympic style Judo there is Freestyle and Kosen Judo. Would these ones also focus their attention on throws or do  they have some ground fighting in them?" CreationDate="2018-08-18T23:37:31.300" UserId="9394" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17779" PostId="8520" Score="0" Text="@Louis Kosen Judo is very similar to BJJ. A huge emphasis on the ground. Freestyle Judo is more balanced. And unlike Olympic Judo, it doesn’t have a time limit on the ground, which means players actually have to learn both throws and ground fighting. Freestyle also retains all of the throws which were banned in Olympic Judo. Freestyle bills itself as “Judo the way it was meant to be. “" CreationDate="2018-08-19T00:32:55.830" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17781" PostId="8517" Score="1" Text="In mixed martial arts, unless I'm mistaken, you're practicing few things of many different martial arts. As when practicing two seperate arts individually, you would get the core and structure of each art. That's how I see it." CreationDate="2018-08-19T04:22:36.207" UserId="9394" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17782" PostId="8520" Score="0" Text="The proper name for Olympic judo is Kodokan Judo. Freestyle Judo is essentially Kodokan Judo before the 2010(?) rule changes, which means that a Kodokan Judo instructor with ~15 years experience will be capable of instructing you in Freestyle Judo. Throws that were banned at that time due to safety remain banned in Freestyle (kani basami, kawazu gake). My understanding of Kosen Judo is that it is a small niche in Japan; if you want an intensely ground focused system, BJJ is usually available while Kosen judo is almost certainly not." CreationDate="2018-08-19T13:12:04.587" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17783" PostId="8520" Score="0" Text="Yup. That’s why I say “Olympic Judo”. There are Kodokan groups that continue to practice older versions of Kodokan, even from before the Olympics altogether. It’s easier just to say “Olympic “ Judo. I thought Freestyle had throws from earlier Judo as well, going back to the 1920’s, but I could be wrong. The major change for them is the elimination of the time limit on the ground. That motivates players to develop their ground game a lot more." CreationDate="2018-08-19T13:31:17.397" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17786" PostId="8517" Score="1" Text="First, thank you very much indeed for revisiting your question.  It helps make the site better. Sadly, to myself, your question is still unclear. *What are your goals?* We **must** know those before we can recommend something. Currently, I could write two equally valid answer why you should mix judo with Aikido and another with Capoeira. If you are looking for &quot;combat versatility&quot;, I suggest learning how to shoot and call in air strikes…" CreationDate="2018-08-20T13:43:47.677" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17790" PostId="8523" Score="0" Text="This is a very nice rundown of what I would face for a new initiate to Martial Arts, thank you very much. And a the quality and versatility of instruction I will get will no doubt depend on the school right?" CreationDate="2018-08-21T11:43:32.237" UserId="9394" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17791" PostId="8523" Score="0" Text="@Louis Obviously, yes." CreationDate="2018-08-21T11:52:40.667" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17792" PostId="8523" Score="4" Text="I am wondering why you write that body development was something that &quot;Judo&quot; does not do well? Besides the fact that this is - again - very much instructor-specific (I've seen very good and very bad examples), I'd say that due to its aliveness, it is generally much better and less one-sided for body development than MOST sports (martial or otherwise). The general athleticism and versatility of well-trained judoka are seldom topped by other sportsmen with similar training time per week according to my experience. I explicitly exclude the overdoing of high-performance sport (injuries) here." CreationDate="2018-08-21T13:30:12.923" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17793" PostId="8523" Score="1" Text="I have accepted this answer, although not directly answering the question I get a very clear idea of what to expect combining other martial arts with Judo. The final advice also makes me realize that it is silly to plan combining martial arts without starting one in the first place. Thank you for the richness and clarity of your answer." CreationDate="2018-08-21T14:10:34.787" UserId="9394" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17795" PostId="8517" Score="0" Text="After reading through meta I have re-modified my question with a fresh, clearer idea of how to properly ask it. I hope this modification can help show my intent." CreationDate="2018-08-22T13:26:42.930" UserId="9394" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17796" PostId="8231" Score="1" Text="Thank you Steve. I read through your answer and visited a Goju Ryu Sensei about 2 hours away from where I stay. I spoke, sparred and trained with him for a day and read your answer again which crystallised all my thoughts on the topic. I'm more than happy with his approach and techniques. I found the main knowledgeable about Karate in general and the details of the kata which he was teaching his black belts. So, I've enrolled as a white belt and am going to go the whole way. Thanks much for your insightful answer." CreationDate="2018-08-23T07:41:50.347" UserId="1965" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17798" PostId="8517" Score="1" Text="Having spent many hours these past few days reading and studying, I have come to realize I am no longer interested in learning a second martial art. I felt the need to delete my question for that reason, but it remains a valid one, wondering if there is another martial art that combines well with Judo, plus, people put time and effort in their answers. I will try to better edit my question to clarify further and answer in case anyone in the future seeks an answer to that same question." CreationDate="2018-08-23T18:02:57.890" UserId="9394" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17801" PostId="8526" Score="1" Text="I'm voting to close this for a few reasons (although I had to pick one in the interface). First, this seems like it's too broad, encompassing the entire philosophy and history of a martial art. Secondly, asking for book recommendations kind of comes under our &quot;shopping&quot; prohibition. Normally, I'd suggest chat for such &quot;discussion&quot; questions, but the chat rooms tend to be very quiet here. Might be worth trying, though. &quot;Open Roda&quot; is our current &quot;general discussion&quot; room, although you're welcome to open a specialized one to discuss Karate." CreationDate="2018-08-24T11:33:29.217" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17802" PostId="8526" Score="0" Text="[Related meta question for on-topicness](https://martialarts.meta.stackexchange.com/q/487/5961)" CreationDate="2018-08-24T12:39:22.310" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17807" PostId="8529" Score="2" Text="*Welcome to the site.* Might I strongly suggest you looked at the [help] to see how we work. While this does answer the question, it make bold claims without any justification whatsoever and is therefore a bad answer which will attract down votes. Could you edit it to substantiate your claims?" CreationDate="2018-08-29T11:48:35.737" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17808" PostId="8529" Score="1" Text="Does &quot;Ra&quot; = Real Aikido?" CreationDate="2018-08-29T11:53:17.583" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17810" PostId="8530" Score="0" Text="*Welcome to the site*. I strongly urge you to look at the [help] section to learn how we work. This answer makes lots of claims without any justifications. Could you add some?" CreationDate="2018-08-31T07:09:45.817" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17815" PostId="8533" Score="2" Text="I would like to suggest two improvements to this answer: First, while Obi-tori-gaeshi is **not** part of the Gokyo (neither the original one from 1895 nor the revised one from 1920), it is indeed a te-waza technique recognized by the Kodokan. Secondly, while you are (apart from the first point) correct, I would suggest [this source](http://kodokanjudoinstitute.org/en/waza/list/) - the official Kodokan website - where you can also find my first point validated. Welcome to MartialArts.SE!" CreationDate="2018-09-01T10:33:04.730" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17816" PostId="8533" Score="0" Text="Fascinating. *Kodokan Judo Throwing Techniques* is out-of-date with respect to the Kodokan website." CreationDate="2018-09-01T12:01:29.820" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17817" PostId="8533" Score="1" Text="@mattm: Curiously enough (and maybe in part explaining it), the IJF - other than the Kodokan Institute - [does not know this difference](http://www.judo.or.jp/english/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/2014ijf_waza.pdf). So it probably comes down to academic dissence within Judo politics here. I can see how Kodokan's Obi-tori-gaeshi should be considered a technique of its own, though." CreationDate="2018-09-01T12:57:54.833" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17818" PostId="8533" Score="1" Text="@PhilipKlöcking I did not know IJF has its own classifications! That really should not surprise me; where people can bicker about something they will." CreationDate="2018-09-01T13:07:14.047" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17819" PostId="8534" Score="1" Text="It could be worth mentioning that there was a change (additions) in Ne-waza (specifically Katame-waza) as well in the question." CreationDate="2018-09-01T14:08:21.453" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17820" PostId="8537" Score="4" Text="If you want to train at your own pace, how is someone else recommending a routine supposed to help?" CreationDate="2018-09-03T22:00:57.137" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17821" PostId="8537" Score="1" Text="Good question! I am interested in developing my own curriculum, just looking for ideas from folks here....from people that have a schedule to follow, ie Mondays: cardio, planks, forms...Wednesdays: kicking techniques, blocking, sparring (shadow kicking/boxing...)... You get the drift, I hope..." CreationDate="2018-09-03T23:30:42.340" UserId="9516" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17822" PostId="8537" Score="0" Text="I strongly suggest you looked at the [help] to learn how this site works. Getting ideas is not something we do at all." CreationDate="2018-09-04T06:14:43.647" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17823" PostId="8537" Score="3" Text="Talk to your instructor; they should be able to help adjust the art to your capabilities." CreationDate="2018-09-04T11:17:56.570" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17824" PostId="8538" Score="1" Text="Thank you very much for the feedback sir! Charyt! KeungNae! I'll have to come back to comment and feedback on your post." CreationDate="2018-09-05T00:57:22.437" UserId="9516" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17825" PostId="4733" Score="1" Text="1-4 are why I quit aikido pretty quickly. I was called up to be part of a &quot;multiple opponents&quot; attack on a brown or black belt, and so I punched the guy (not hard) right in the kidney area because he was facing away from me.  It felt weird and awkward like I had attacked &quot;incorrectly&quot; because everyone else waited their turns and attacked one at a time with the guy facing them.  I didn't want to continue in an art where you only train to be attacked in certain ways.  Maybe it was just the school i went to." CreationDate="2018-09-05T06:48:39.727" UserId="8354" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17826" PostId="8539" Score="1" Text="Whilst some of this may be true - this answer appears as speculation - can you provide articles/references to back up your claims as per the other (highly voted) answer? in its current form it is likely to attract downvotes" CreationDate="2018-09-07T07:08:55.720" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17827" PostId="8540" Score="2" Text="This is in no way limited to karate, many arts train barefoot and the origins of this are likely somewhat linked." CreationDate="2018-09-07T11:27:08.480" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17828" PostId="8542" Score="3" Text="I actually think the title question - &quot;why don't we wear shoes in karate?&quot; is answered adequately by your answer - &quot;you get more out of training without them&quot;. It's only the origins of barefoot training (hinted at in the question body) that are not covered and I am not convinced that that is answerable with any authority anyway" CreationDate="2018-09-07T13:33:52.927" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17829" PostId="8543" Score="0" Text="This is *an educated guess*. Anyone with knowledge of Japense history might be better suited to answering this. Try history.se?" CreationDate="2018-09-07T14:21:00.397" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17830" PostId="8540" Score="1" Text="You *might be better* asking on hisotry.se about historical reasons why martial arts in Japan train bare footed." CreationDate="2018-09-07T14:29:57.903" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17831" PostId="8543" Score="1" Text="If you want some other examples, many Hapkido schools suggest shoes (I don't know the reasoning) and Capoeira schools very often either highly suggest shoes or require them (it's a combination of &quot;train what you'd be wearing&quot;, a practical matter of the many spinning kicks making even a little bit of roughness to the floor uncomfortable, and a cultural heritage of being taught and used on the street rather than in a formal room)." CreationDate="2018-09-07T15:04:01.433" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17832" PostId="8306" Score="0" Text="@Jammin4CO - Logistics aside, putting all current sports (Wrestling, boxing, tkd, etc) under a single sport heading (Combat sports?) and making them events would open up a lot of room under the current sport/event rule structure. (Much like aquatics covers swimming, diving, synchro, water polo, etc)" CreationDate="2018-09-07T16:04:21.580" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17833" PostId="8543" Score="0" Text="&quot;In Japanese culture, wearing shoes indoor is considered impolite and dirty.&quot; That's not really true: it's more complex than you make out. You'd would certainly take off your shoes in a temple and (I think) in somebody's home. However, nobody takes off their shoes when they walk into an ordinary shop or restaurant." CreationDate="2018-09-07T16:05:22.050" UserId="9523" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17834" PostId="7714" Score="2" Text="fyi &quot;sawaru&quot; (触る) is to touch / feel, &quot;suwaru&quot; (座る) is to sit / squat." CreationDate="2018-09-08T14:53:36.190" UserId="494" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17835" PostId="7386" Score="2" Text="Could be due to which leg goes down first from standing to *seiza* (in some *dôjô* the right leg should go down first)" CreationDate="2018-09-08T15:15:24.470" UserId="494" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17836" PostId="8545" Score="0" Text="I suggest asking this as two separate questions, one on breaking posture in the closed guard, and one on side control. I don't think of these positions as being significantly related." CreationDate="2018-09-08T16:44:43.173" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17837" PostId="7714" Score="1" Text="Thanks for the clarification - I changed the question and details for the spelling.  I'd been spelling it wrong all these years, never noticed!" CreationDate="2018-09-08T18:50:54.370" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17838" PostId="8548" Score="3" Text="With all due respect, but people who use pressure points from an inferior control position in ground game suffer. All grapplers I know let people who think pressure points would give them an edge even harder a time of being crushed. In other words: Either you don't need them or if you (think you) need them, you're doubly screwed." CreationDate="2018-09-09T15:14:48.287" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17839" PostId="8548" Score="2" Text="I agree with Philip. Pressure points are not the answer. If you just happen to be on a sensitive point while using that point as the fulcrum during a leverage based technique, okay that's something. But spending any time fidgeting around for a point to press on that you think will cause enough pain for your opponent to release a grip or give you an opening is just naive. It's naive because everyone who tries this with an experienced grappler for the first time realizes it doesn't work. While you're fidgeting, you're not keeping focus on what you should be doing, and you get tapped." CreationDate="2018-09-09T15:50:04.933" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17840" PostId="8548" Score="2" Text="@SteveWeigand: Exactly. It hurts me, it annoys me, it makes me angry. Not a good combination. I overwhelmed opponents from even inferior positions simply because they enjoyed triggering pressure points to hurt me. Pressure points are completely useless in real-world applications. They hurt and annoy, but apart from making angry people angrier, there is not much of an effect." CreationDate="2018-09-09T16:41:09.153" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17841" PostId="8548" Score="0" Text="Well then the solution is to tap out.  I stand by my answer.  Armbars, rear naked chokes, and many other techniques rely on PP and/or VA.  Not all pressure points induce pain; they can be used to weaken a grip, offbalance, and distract.  While they are not the end-all-be-all, they must absolutely be part of any martial artist's toolbox." CreationDate="2018-09-09T18:01:41.243" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17842" PostId="8549" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site. First, please check out the [help] to see how we work. Second, you can edit your post at any time and format them. Unless you are on mobil, you should see a nice preview of your post. Stack supports a slightly enhanced version of markdown. I've edited your post for now." CreationDate="2018-09-10T07:33:25.313" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17843" PostId="8549" Score="2" Text="Could you name the apps you found good?" CreationDate="2018-09-10T07:34:55.547" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17844" PostId="8551" Score="5" Text="There is a good answer in there. However, it is buried in lack of formatting and too much rant-like wording. I strongly encourage you to please rephrase it so it reads more like an article and less than a rant. Thank you." CreationDate="2018-09-10T07:37:25.507" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17845" PostId="8547" Score="0" Text="I appreciate the immense detail in which you have covered the forms of control with which I struggle. Just to make sure I am not missing anything, the main point you are emphasizing in terms of a general ground game is that I must gradually obtain control of my opponent's limbs that enable the most movement and thus give him fewer options until a submission is unstoppable. Is that correct?" CreationDate="2018-09-10T18:34:15.497" UserId="9531" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17846" PostId="8547" Score="1" Text="@MansoorAhmad: Quite, though not completely - it is not mere control of the opponent's limbs but the directions and opportunities in general. This obviously involves control of limbs, but can also be about weight distribution, breaking of balance, and distraction/simultaneous attack with a choke. Mind, the ground game is insanely complex and dependent on many factors not easily describable or otherwise demonstratable." CreationDate="2018-09-10T21:25:25.213" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17848" PostId="8552" Score="0" Text="Thank you for your contribution, both the personal experience and the actual content of the video in question." CreationDate="2018-09-11T11:35:22.037" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17850" PostId="8554" Score="0" Text="FWIW, I've done some light research on this and I haven't found anything about this other than people discussing the nasal strips for BJJ (and saying that the adhesive tends to fail when they start sweating) and a few comments about people being worried about losing them inside sinus cavities if one was not careful." CreationDate="2018-09-11T15:29:59.520" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17851" PostId="8554" Score="0" Text="Yeah nasal strips are good for running as well.... for 5 minutes before they sweat off.  Useless for fighting.  It is nonsensical that one could be lost in a sinus.  The two halves are joined externally over the nasal septum - that would have to break in order for one of the halves to be shoved up further than usual.  Even then... should still be easy to extract." CreationDate="2018-09-11T16:12:09.367" UserId="9340" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17852" PostId="8555" Score="0" Text="My doctor could state that i have a deviated nasal septum - but no way are they going to state that it is safe or appropriate for a martial art usage... they would (quite rightly) say it is not their job / not within their expertise to make a judgement like that." CreationDate="2018-09-11T16:14:52.530" UserId="9340" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17853" PostId="8555" Score="0" Text="A DS is no assurance of not being able to compete, since ~80% of US population does not have a straight nasal passage.  A doctor will consider whether your condition (or your prosthetic) will exacerbate your condition, or create a different injury risk to you.  Tourny organizers know that DS can increase incidence of bloody nose, a risk to your competitor and all who step on a mat, and may be hesitant to allow you to compete - or they could simply be prepared ahead of time.  Either way, have a convo with doc and see where that leads.&#xA;&#xA;https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/318262.php" CreationDate="2018-09-11T18:05:37.567" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17854" PostId="8555" Score="2" Text="Additionally, it could be an insurance issue for the tournament organizers that they may not be willing to risk. I.e. you enter competition wearing non approved items, get hurt due to that, and sue the organizer for not preventing you from wearing it. It's happened before." CreationDate="2018-09-11T19:55:03.730" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17855" PostId="8549" Score="2" Text="Sorry, but this is really nothing more than &quot;Hey, I tried some apps and they were great, but another one wasn't, go look&quot; which is essentially &quot;go try google&quot; style of answer. We at least would need some substantiation of what you are claiming." CreationDate="2018-09-11T19:59:20.123" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17856" PostId="8555" Score="1" Text="Yes, and there could also be regulatory issues as well - not unlike issues with concussions.  For example, in soccer, my players can wear glasses - but they must meet ASTM specifications.  Any kind of prosthetic might be regulated for performance where specifications are intended to reduce injury to player, opponents, mitigate abuse, or mitigate performance enhancement.  Tourny organizers have lawyers and medical staff to deal with this very thing." CreationDate="2018-09-11T21:15:04.830" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17857" PostId="8554" Score="0" Text="*Comments are not for discussion, please use [chat] for that.*" CreationDate="2018-09-12T09:44:08.537" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17858" PostId="8548" Score="0" Text="I love it when pressure point guys stop in the gym. They worry about some dumb pressure point while I advance position, sweep, or work in a submission. The goal is not to hurt your opponent, it's to kill them. That's what a submission is. Not surprisingly, the pressure point guys never come back a second time." CreationDate="2018-09-12T14:17:57.227" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17859" PostId="8557" Score="0" Text="Hmm, sorry I missed that explanation in the article. I wonder why the time wasn't recorded. Is that a term you're familiar with? Submission(terror) when talking about combat sports? Like what's it called in boxing or kickboxing when a fighter doesn't want to continue?" CreationDate="2018-09-12T15:45:03.317" UserId="9544" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17860" PostId="8557" Score="0" Text="It actually says &quot;clarification needed&quot;, but obviously a citation would be needed also. At mixedmartialarts.com forums https://www.mixedmartialarts.com/forums/UnderGround/Joe-Son---Submission-Terror:1722812-1 someone says: &quot;I do believe that that's the fight in which Joe M &quot;bitch slapped&quot; Joe Son right off the opening bell so hard that he walked back to his corner and tapped.&quot; Though this too needs verification." CreationDate="2018-09-12T15:53:26.033" UserId="9544" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17861" PostId="8557" Score="0" Text="So it does! I guess I didn't read it properly and my brain filled it in with what I wanted it to say!" CreationDate="2018-09-12T15:55:41.803" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17862" PostId="8557" Score="0" Text="Oh, I see now! This fight wasn't at a UFC event, it was at something called Xtreme Pankration 2, and this &quot;submission(terror)&quot; must be specific to this event maybe." CreationDate="2018-09-12T16:00:45.530" UserId="9544" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17864" PostId="8557" Score="0" Text="This is probably the correct answer. Here's another unsourced source from an old Sherdog thread that says the same thing: http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/tell-me-about-joe-moreira.1844089/" CreationDate="2018-09-14T21:32:15.750" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17866" PostId="8560" Score="1" Text="It's not clear what else you are looking for with &quot;I would still like more feedback for this answer so that I can get as much as possible out of this question&quot;." CreationDate="2018-09-19T14:34:55.003" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17867" PostId="8560" Score="0" Text="@mattm Forgive my bluntness. I meant that I would like to see how various other practitioners tackle the topic of using your hips in BJJ. Essentially, I meant I'd like to wait and see various other perspectives if possible." CreationDate="2018-09-19T15:04:22.607" UserId="9531" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17868" PostId="8560" Score="0" Text="No need to ask for forgiveness. You are entitled to accept answers however you see fit. It's just preferred that questions be clear. I have also revised my answer to discuss juji gatame, which may be a better illustration of how to generate strength." CreationDate="2018-09-19T21:37:12.873" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17869" PostId="8560" Score="0" Text="@mattm Thank you so much! I sincerely appreciate your sheer dedication to assisting people like myself with such detail, commitment, and enthusiasm! Thank you so much!" CreationDate="2018-09-19T22:42:48.210" UserId="9531" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17871" PostId="8561" Score="0" Text="With the scissors sweep, using the hips probably is about not staying shrimped (hips outside of partner's body axis), but moving the hips back into the center line before sweeping. It goes a long way regarding levers etc." CreationDate="2018-09-20T18:10:54.993" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17872" PostId="8566" Score="0" Text="Indeed, my Sensei has equipment he sells (haven't checked it out yet, just wanted to get a feel for what others use). I have hit enough knees with my bare shin, enough to want shin pads while sparing. I could do without the gloves, but I suppose it protects my partner. Thanks for the tips!" CreationDate="2018-09-22T06:04:48.343" UserId="9435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17878" PostId="8566" Score="0" Text="@Shinobii &quot;my Sensei has equipment he sells&quot;…  Some instructors do sell their own gear and are fine teachers. Some do so in order to line their pockets when running a McDojo. It is hard to see which is which in your comment." CreationDate="2018-09-24T11:43:46.163" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17879" PostId="8566" Score="0" Text="My school is the opposite of McDojo. My internationally award winning Sensei is thorough, and thus sells equipment at cost. He definitely does not much money via teaching!" CreationDate="2018-09-24T14:26:38.480" UserId="9435" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17880" PostId="8566" Score="1" Text="@Shinobii Good to hear. Then, I would get the gear from your instructor." CreationDate="2018-09-25T06:18:27.813" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17888" PostId="8569" Score="4" Text="&quot;Schools can't have their students running around putting people in rear naked chokes, or throwing each other, now, can they?&quot; This is precisely what schoolchildren do at judo." CreationDate="2018-09-26T19:47:27.883" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17889" PostId="8569" Score="0" Text="Well in truth, I don't really know what was taught in school back then; perhaps, I would have been safer saying &quot;Schools can't have their students running around poking people in the eyes, or kicking them in the groin, now, can they?&quot;" CreationDate="2018-09-26T19:53:26.593" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17890" PostId="8569" Score="0" Text="I do know that some techniques - like a spearhand, a C block (or stick block), and a few other blocks are actually throws.  So I presume that the renamed technique was ostensibly to avoid having the students do just that." CreationDate="2018-09-26T19:54:56.220" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17891" PostId="8569" Score="3" Text="For thousands of years, including during the Roman Empire, the script for winning wars has been to raise an army and train them to fight together as a unit. Individual fighting skill is not very important; it's sufficient for soldiers to have basic proficiency but good organization. In this context, nothing that is currently called a martial art has met your definition of martial arts for thousands of years, since before anyone was called Mars. Martial arts have always been overspecialized for mass warfare." CreationDate="2018-09-26T20:13:39.780" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17892" PostId="8569" Score="0" Text="Yes, agreed.  Only those who are in the military practice true martial arts (or, shall I say, military science?)  My definition is not well-accepted in the current martial arts community, since I subscribe to a more literal definition.  But this time I deferred to that more unpopular definition in the hope to draw a contrast.  Since taekwondo was specifically specified to limit answers, and that Taekwondo was designed in and for military use, I thought that showing the evolution from military origins to modern sport would better show evolution and not necessarily without loss of effectiveness." CreationDate="2018-09-26T20:28:23.947" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17893" PostId="8569" Score="0" Text="Only change in effectiveness.  So today's sport TKD is useless in yesterday's military application, and vice versa is also true.  And yet, for sport, it is effective for reasons I didn't mention for fear of rambling (I did that anyway), but look: it's in Olympics." CreationDate="2018-09-26T20:31:07.457" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17900" PostId="8571" Score="1" Text="Welcome to the site. I strongly urge you to check out the [help] to learn how we work. This, while a nice personal story, does not really answer the question." CreationDate="2018-10-01T07:04:08.900" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17904" PostId="8571" Score="0" Text="Thank you for this comments - I have travel some times around the world for seminars for misogi - just to see/take a taste of what they do. So even that is helpful." CreationDate="2018-10-01T13:29:16.007" UserId="267" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17906" PostId="8573" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site. This is a really nice answer. Thank you. I slightly edited it for formatting. If, by mistake, I change your meaning you can always [edit] it yourself." CreationDate="2018-10-03T07:35:39.507" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17910" PostId="8580" Score="2" Text="As a clarification, do either of your son's instructors know about the other? If not, that is a breach of protocol. I mean it is your prerogative, but general decency would dictate you should tell them both. (Plus, what happens when the new instructor goes to register him as a BB and he is already one?). Also, it might help if you gave your background as to what makes you qualified to determine what is required of a black belt." CreationDate="2018-10-04T13:27:59.547" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17911" PostId="8580" Score="1" Text="Oh absolutely the instructors know, as you say that is general decency. As for my background, l am a parent and have spoken to several Masters as well as other senior black belts. What l am hearing is one school says he is ready for black belt, and every other one say he is not. Which makes me question why is one school saying he is ready?" CreationDate="2018-10-04T13:35:40.063" UserId="9594" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17912" PostId="8580" Score="1" Text="Different schools, different standards. They are also different styles with different emphases. I'm a member of the ATA, which often gets knocked for &quot;soft&quot; black belts because we also take into consideration where they started, rather than an arbitrary mythical standard. If you want to talk about it more, you have enough reputation to [enter our chat room](https://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/79444/open-roda)" CreationDate="2018-10-04T13:52:09.500" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17913" PostId="8582" Score="0" Text="Fungus from the mats is also a big issue, as I understand it." CreationDate="2018-10-04T13:56:52.193" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17914" PostId="8582" Score="1" Text="@SeanDuggan- It can be, yes, Athletes foot is the most common. At risk also is ringworm, lice, etc. However, the OP specifically asked about blood borne. It might be a good addition to list out the other considerations? Other than athletes foot, I've never had personal experience with someone contracting anything (30+ years of martial arts), but an answer detailing the other things that could happen would be helpful and a good addition." CreationDate="2018-10-04T13:59:56.087" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17915" PostId="8582" Score="0" Text="Acknowledged. The closest I can think of is actually from the professional wrestling events, where several stars got sidelined due to mumps (originally feared to be viral meningitis). https://www.forbes.com/sites/alfredkonuwa/2017/10/23/roman-reigns-bray-wyatt-and-5-things-you-need-to-know-about-wwes-viral-infection-scare/#223fca7f1a16" CreationDate="2018-10-04T14:17:20.447" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17917" PostId="8582" Score="0" Text="The worrisome part is that even if it is low, there is still a chance. It's not &quot;impossible&quot; say compared to doing something such as Tennis, for example." CreationDate="2018-10-04T17:45:23.083" UserId="9593" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17918" PostId="8582" Score="0" Text="@imaginative - Well, yeah, but by that token you can get infections from opening the door to a public bathroom. There has to be a reasonable limit to fears." CreationDate="2018-10-04T20:20:42.017" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17923" PostId="8591" Score="1" Text="Thanks, it is kind of relieving to realize everybody else is confused too :)" CreationDate="2018-10-06T11:28:13.050" UserId="9518" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17924" PostId="8592" Score="1" Text="I've edited your question to focus it on your example of shields and prevent it from being overly broad. Please take the [tour](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour)." CreationDate="2018-10-06T23:11:02.873" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17925" PostId="8592" Score="0" Text="Are you looking for examples of fighting with *just* a shield?" CreationDate="2018-10-07T00:40:11.317" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17926" PostId="8594" Score="1" Text="[Karate is slated to be in the 2020 Olympics.](https://www.bbc.com/sport/olympics/36968070) Does that change your question?" CreationDate="2018-10-07T12:49:55.490" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17928" PostId="8595" Score="2" Text="Nobody should train basics at home without correction by knowledgeable coaches or *at least* extensive knowledge about how it is correct and a good feeling for one's own body. Wrong (self-)training will result in taking around twice the number of repetitions done wrong to convert into proper technique and/or - even worse - long-term damage of joints." CreationDate="2018-10-07T19:33:46.783" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17929" PostId="8596" Score="0" Text="Do you have a source/reference for this?" CreationDate="2018-10-08T06:53:27.993" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17931" PostId="8594" Score="1" Text="Taekwondo is also both a Martial Art and an Olympic sport." CreationDate="2018-10-08T10:04:45.137" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17932" PostId="8595" Score="0" Text="True, but how do we know that the question relates to training at home?" CreationDate="2018-10-08T10:29:26.157" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17933" PostId="8596" Score="0" Text="A quick Google search will inform you that &quot;Fight Zone&quot; was a 1995 worked fight show with MMA overtones. Basically, Professional Wrestling with more striking and less grappling. So no, the work of a particular actor's fight choreography says nothing about the martial art they're claiming to practice and its efficacy." CreationDate="2018-10-08T13:56:42.390" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17935" PostId="4625" Score="1" Text="Wigwam, who is currently downvoted at -1. He is completely correct pursuant to the new rules for Dan promotion written as of May 2016. Downvote him all you want, or go and read the new regulations, because his information is 100% correct and spot on" CreationDate="2018-10-08T15:48:13.157" UserId="9610" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17936" PostId="8592" Score="0" Text="yes, any help would be appreciated" CreationDate="2018-10-08T19:30:18.317" UserId="9602" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17937" PostId="8594" Score="2" Text="Why did I get negative marks for my question . Was my question wrong?" CreationDate="2018-10-09T03:19:52.703" UserId="9579" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17938" PostId="8602" Score="1" Text="Welcome to the site. I strongly urge you to check out the [tour] and [help] to learn how we work. This answer would be much improved by providing references." CreationDate="2018-10-09T10:38:24.447" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17939" PostId="8594" Score="1" Text="@azhagan - most likely because the question appears to be easily answered, what prior research did you do?" CreationDate="2018-10-09T14:12:25.813" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17940" PostId="8594" Score="5" Text="As with ALL of your prior questions, commenters have requested clarification of your questions, and you have provided none. The standard guidance for a downvote is &quot;This question does not show any research effort; it is unclear or not useful.&quot; I have not personally downvoted, but your questions are definitely unclear." CreationDate="2018-10-09T14:43:09.583" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17941" PostId="8600" Score="2" Text="I think that's it. It makes a cool noise." CreationDate="2018-10-09T16:18:45.633" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17943" PostId="4625" Score="0" Text="Great, can you cite a reference for this? For example http://www.kukkiwon.or.kr/english/examination/examination08.jsp doesn't state anything about &quot;At a minimum, three to ten people must promote&quot; nor the requirement to be a &quot;A Kukkiwon-certified instructor&quot; nor &quot;6th dan or higher&quot;. Again, I'm happy to change my understanding, I regularly attend Kukkiwon courses to try to ensure I'm up to date - but I'd need a reference to the correct information not just the opinion of &quot;some guy off the internet&quot;." CreationDate="2018-10-09T21:35:39.193" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17944" PostId="4625" Score="0" Text="If you're referring to http://www.kukkiwon.or.kr/front/pageView.action?cmd=/eng/evaluate/regulations then remember these only apply to MNAs that run open dan testing, and don't apply to individual master instructors recommending their own students after dan testing." CreationDate="2018-10-09T21:36:21.357" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17945" PostId="7772" Score="0" Text="did you take the master instructor and poom/dan examiner course? Did you get clarification? If not, I can speak to Kukkiwon directly and ask them for a quotable answer." CreationDate="2018-10-09T21:38:00.393" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17946" PostId="8606" Score="0" Text="There is contact info at https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/4535/1780" CreationDate="2018-10-10T11:21:30.267" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17947" PostId="7772" Score="0" Text="No, I didn't get a chance to go; there's another WTMU course offered in December in Illinois this year, and I won't make that either.  But I've had opportunity to ask, all are aware of this ruling and explain them as reasons to reduce the appearance of impropriety.  They say formal testing is generally demanded.  They also note nothing in these rules make distinction of open or private testing and that these rules apply to all, and try to make testing across the board consistent.  Olympics is taken seriously, no need to risk someone's career with suggestions of cheating on advancement." CreationDate="2018-10-10T11:50:42.897" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17948" PostId="7772" Score="0" Text="This I cannot source, of course; but the reasons are logical.  What is important is to note that nothing in the articles make any mention of open testing.  Everyone I've ever asked has applied these standards for all of their tests.  All testing is treated exactly the same.  (Noting there are always exceptions, such as online testing - and I don't know how this is circumvented, except that the videos themselves provide proof of performance.)" CreationDate="2018-10-10T11:53:58.467" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17949" PostId="4625" Score="0" Text="In the link, Article 6, bullet 3 indicates &quot;(3) Promotion tests should be composed of three to ten members and they must be arranged so that they may easily view the testee's performance&quot;.  Article 1 and 2 explain the 6th dan qualifications (now 7th).  But no mention is made about open testing - even in tests which appear to be private still adhere to these guidelines - number of instructors, rank, paperwork, age and time... all of it.  Facility features is usually what is not always optimal.  And I've never seen a doctor present." CreationDate="2018-10-10T11:59:34.057" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17950" PostId="4625" Score="0" Text="I get what you say about MNA, and such is described in that context in the links.  But there is no mention of how to apply for dan certification outside of MNA, except where MNA is not available in countries - hardly meant to describe private dojangs.  There is the notable exception in article 6.2 &quot;Any Member National Association which does not have, among its members, official Kukkiwon 6th Dan or higher Dan holders should obtain approval from the Kukkiwon to carry out the testing.&quot; and that suggests where we could both be correct - and which introduces the exceptions" CreationDate="2018-10-10T12:02:55.580" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17951" PostId="4792" Score="0" Text="Agreed, despite mine being one of the answers." CreationDate="2018-10-10T14:06:38.347" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17952" PostId="8607" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site. The problem with blanket statements, is that they often fail in the face of reality. There are many martial arts practitioners that &quot;practice actual fighting&quot;. Your answer shows an implicit bias against anything not boxing/wrestling." CreationDate="2018-10-10T14:20:25.743" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17953" PostId="7660" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion - I am late to the question, but I've edited it to hopefully make it answerable, and avoid the SvG dilemma." CreationDate="2018-10-10T14:22:19.347" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17954" PostId="8609" Score="0" Text="I would throw the Leg Kick because if the leg is destroyed there is nothing much a fighter can do. It will take away their ability to throw power shots, to keep their balance, and more importantly will make them susceptible to other attacks as their mobility would be severely reduced. The LHook shifts the weight on their lead leg and so my RLeg kick attacks a heavy leg, doing more damage. That is pretty much why I would throw it. Not in a street fight though. I would rather throw a front kick or a side kick in that situation and then run." CreationDate="2018-10-10T18:31:31.363" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17956" PostId="8606" Score="0" Text="My answer here: https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/7719/could-a-non-buddhist-person-become-a-monk-master-at-shao-lin-temple/7720#7720" CreationDate="2018-10-10T19:28:16.067" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17957" PostId="8600" Score="0" Text="I figured there would be some practical aspect... Kinda disappointed." CreationDate="2018-10-14T19:18:39.533" UserId="9613" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17958" PostId="8611" Score="1" Text="Just as an aside - While there are people flexible enough to through turning kicks without pivoting, this is a sure road to injury somewhere along the line." CreationDate="2018-10-15T14:13:18.267" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17959" PostId="4625" Score="1" Text="And the exceptions are that individual masters of 4th Dan or above can promote their own students without needing a panel, all they need to do is apply to be a KMS member. Source: Poom/Dan Examiner Course Austria 2015 ;-)" CreationDate="2018-10-16T12:38:21.377" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17960" PostId="7772" Score="0" Text="All I know is what we were told at the poom/dan examiner course in 2015 (and Master course in 2016) and that we can recommend poom/dan up to one below ourselves (up to 7th Dan) without needing a panel of judges. I've personally promoted someone to Kukkiwon 5th Dan this year." CreationDate="2018-10-16T12:42:42.950" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17961" PostId="7772" Score="1" Text="Also &quot;Olympics is taken seriously&quot; - in the UK the national team will pretty much give anyone a 1st Dan so they can compete, and they openly recruit from all other martial arts in the UK to the national team. I'm completely against this practice, but it happens and that case the Olympics (and the funding that goes with it) is the reason for not following Kukkiwon rules rather than the reason for the rules existing." CreationDate="2018-10-16T12:43:57.033" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17962" PostId="7772" Score="0" Text="I absolutely agree, and I think the exceptions are rampant.  There is no doubt tons cronyism going on in our industry; I was promoted all the way up to 3rd dan from a 5th dan, but, he knew someone who knew someone, and with computers, I guess it's easy to push a few buttons to get things done." CreationDate="2018-10-16T14:30:40.523" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17963" PostId="8611" Score="0" Text="@kristina I think I am pretty flexible (although I can't do splits, I can throw head kicks accurately). My problem is with the spacing after the LHook. The right leg kick is to be thrown on the quad muscle, but when I throw the Lhook, my legs are pretty close to my opponents. there isn't enough room to build momentum on the kick. This is in regards to Muay Thai." CreationDate="2018-10-16T21:43:00.747" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17964" PostId="8614" Score="1" Text="You could make this an even better answer by providing a source for the terms you listed." CreationDate="2018-10-17T12:48:23.260" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17965" PostId="8614" Score="0" Text="Thanks. I learned that the correct translation for &quot;Attaque sur la préparation&quot; would be a &quot;stop hit&quot;." CreationDate="2018-10-17T13:16:29.070" UserId="9626" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17966" PostId="8614" Score="0" Text="@MikeP Those are common French fencing terms…" CreationDate="2018-10-17T13:22:00.610" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17967" PostId="8614" Score="0" Text="Okay, but that's not immediately obvious to those of us, myself included, with no fencing experience." CreationDate="2018-10-17T13:42:26.797" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17968" PostId="2583" Score="1" Text="@coinbird - &quot;Brick not hit back&quot;. :p" CreationDate="2018-10-17T14:23:07.650" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17969" PostId="2583" Score="0" Text="@JohnP Hah! Perfect quote." CreationDate="2018-10-17T14:59:41.077" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17970" PostId="7772" Score="1" Text="Just to be clear though, I don't think the perfectly legal/valid exceptions are a bad thing. I test all of my students for dan rank and to a much higher standard than in our official WT MNA. The syllabus is more extensive and is up to date with current Kukkiwon standards (e.g. how one-step sparring should be done now). The Kukkiwon also wants instructors to make allowances for people with disabilities or other individual problems, that's hard to do for a panel that doesn't know the candidate. So I don't think testing outside of panels is a bad thing at all." CreationDate="2018-10-18T08:08:47.257" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17971" PostId="8586" Score="0" Text="&quot;any other Kukkiwon/WTF school is obligated to keep you at that level&quot; - just to be clear, they don't have to recognise it or allow you to wear it, but they can't re-promote you to that level. I have a friend who runs a dojang for adults in Korea (he's an ex-Kukkiwon demonstration team member) and when black belts join his dojang, he makes them wear a white belt until they know all of his syllabus up to their grade, then they can wear their black belt again." CreationDate="2018-10-18T09:57:38.623" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17972" PostId="8586" Score="0" Text="Yes, that's a common arrangement.  It is the school trying to make a difference between &quot;dan&quot; and &quot;black belt&quot; - they're very different things, despite the common path they require to get either one.  Things get complicated during competition, though.  That &quot;white belt&quot; will no doubt be seen as a cheat (although, I can't remember an instance of someone wanting to cheat in this way where a dan-grade white belt competed at a white belt level, that would cheapen the event as well as the trophy, and nobody wins.  But I won't say it doesn't happen.)" CreationDate="2018-10-18T12:09:52.923" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17973" PostId="8586" Score="0" Text="I don't know what my friend does about competitions - I assume enters them as a black belt, but just for class makes them wear a white belt (so coloured belts don't approach them for help with his dojang's specific syllabus/way of doing things)" CreationDate="2018-10-19T06:58:14.180" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17974" PostId="8620" Score="1" Text="Whilst I run/cycle for many hours outside of Martial Arts - the majority of my team mates get by with the training in sessions - that includes some of our reigning world champions... the main benefit of the running I do is keeping me in the lighter weight categories - I could spar for hours - in competition you never have to and being more effective in the short time you have is king" CreationDate="2018-10-19T09:37:42.420" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17975" PostId="8620" Score="2" Text="I would add breathing. Many times out of shape people can't breathe properly either, which exacerbates the problem." CreationDate="2018-10-19T17:55:47.697" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17976" PostId="8620" Score="2" Text="@JohnP Keeping your breath under control is a crucial part of fighting for sure!" CreationDate="2018-10-19T18:44:15.730" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17977" PostId="8622" Score="0" Text="You are asking for something like a percentage? Or just whether there's more than one currently?" CreationDate="2018-10-20T15:58:50.247" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17978" PostId="8622" Score="0" Text="Perhaps a better question is whether you can get by with only English (or other other languages)?" CreationDate="2018-10-21T02:28:41.243" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17979" PostId="8622" Score="0" Text="@mattm I speak english, dutch, and german." CreationDate="2018-10-21T06:11:20.903" UserId="9617" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17980" PostId="8622" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan more like a percentage" CreationDate="2018-10-21T06:11:47.437" UserId="9617" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17981" PostId="8624" Score="0" Text="Thanks a lot for your answer, it really helped me! Do you still have the number or email of the monk you where training with?" CreationDate="2018-10-21T17:20:23.207" UserId="9617" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17982" PostId="8624" Score="0" Text="No, I’m not at liberty to say which monk set us up. He only does it for his immediate students. It shouldn’t be too hard to track down who does this. Try google." CreationDate="2018-10-21T17:58:19.743" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17983" PostId="4973" Score="1" Text="I wear a gum shield because I got elbowed in the face after the guy I was fighting turned in for osoto maki komi and knocked my front tooth lose." CreationDate="2018-10-21T16:05:57.940" UserId="9639" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17984" PostId="8627" Score="2" Text="Please take the [tour](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help). Your answer does not seem to really answer the question. Also, &quot;U of M&quot; is quite ambiguous." CreationDate="2018-10-22T20:55:51.890" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17985" PostId="8625" Score="0" Text="This is barely a concern as a high quality pad will last for years (mine are 5 years old, well used and show minimal wear and tear) and is not prohibitively expensive. (And unless I have misunderstood the type of pad referred to - this answer makes no sense as the extra &quot;layer&quot; compared to the singular version is inside)" CreationDate="2018-10-23T10:31:11.503" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17986" PostId="8628" Score="2" Text="Very thorough answer - I often challenge students to make the loudest &quot;clap&quot; sound with their techniques on that kind of pad - protecting the knee is a good point I hadn't considered.&#xA;Another benefit of the double type we have is that the end of the pad is larger and more padded - meaning that over enthusiastic students (mainly kids) that hit the end with a front kick/punch (instead of doing turning kick etc.) don't get as hurt." CreationDate="2018-10-23T10:36:36.187" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17987" PostId="8628" Score="1" Text="I use two separate pads (single or double, depending on exercise).  The first is for the roundhouse kick, the other is to protect my hand holding the target.  LOL  I can't count how many times I get smacked in the fingers or wrist.  I worry about my own potential for injury as I do the students.  Over-enthusiasm can be tempered on occasion: have them kick the end of a bamboo sword (juk do).  They aren't too enthusiastic about that!  lol" CreationDate="2018-10-23T11:42:39.993" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17988" PostId="8386" Score="0" Text="So what's the question? Go train. I've trained with guys that can't use their legs, and are wheelchair bound for transportation. They just keep showing up to the gym." CreationDate="2018-10-23T15:39:48.470" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17989" PostId="8526" Score="0" Text="If you edit your question to read something like who are the most influencial people in Goju Ryu history, I would like to answer." CreationDate="2018-10-24T04:20:22.990" UserId="5848" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17990" PostId="8629" Score="0" Text="Thanks! This is useful. My sensei did give me some of this information and I did some personal research. All the information I got aligns with what you've mentioned it. I'd love to discuss this with you over email or something if that's fine?" CreationDate="2018-10-24T05:39:24.313" UserId="1965" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17992" PostId="8629" Score="1" Text="With all due respect, the story about Bodhidharma being the source of all martial arts [is nothing but a myth](https://www.cavehill.uwi.edu/fhe/histphil/chips/archives/2006/docs/setton.aspx)  (also [here](https://iainabernethy.co.uk/content/zen-and-martial-arts-why-it-bs)) and probably one of the most intricate marketing tricks in history." CreationDate="2018-10-24T18:46:53.403" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17993" PostId="8629" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking I bow to your wisdom, and appreciate your source. Nevertheless, the IOGKF examinations include him as part of the recognized history of Goju Ryu. I already discovered that the Kyushu part of the Dan examination is flawed as well. However we have to teach what is examined..." CreationDate="2018-10-24T18:59:24.360" UserId="5848" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="17999" PostId="8633" Score="2" Text="See https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/93/good-exercises-for-higher-side-kicks, https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/723/what-are-ways-to-increase-flexibility-for-karate-kicks, https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/4940/the-180-degree-leg-split." CreationDate="2018-10-25T12:28:06.610" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18004" PostId="8634" Score="1" Text="Mmmm...that is somewhat under debate. Stretching doesn't actually make the muscles longer, but flexibility is not completely understood yet. The most popular theory is that you are training the nervous system to accept greater movement without pain receptors firing and limiting movement. (Such as can be seen when a person is sedated/unconscious, their ROM is much greater than when conscious). That's the popular theory of why PNF stretching produces such great gains." CreationDate="2018-10-25T16:46:46.167" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18005" PostId="8633" Score="0" Text="**[Off to meta we go …](https://martialarts.meta.stackexchange.com/q/564/82)**" CreationDate="2018-10-26T07:50:44.333" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18006" PostId="8636" Score="2" Text="I'm curious, did you do an image search or were you familiar with it already? I did some searches of my own to little avail and I'm always interested in honing my craft." CreationDate="2018-10-26T18:54:50.393" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18007" PostId="7936" Score="2" Text="This thread is also relevant: https://japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/54045/the-etymology-and-meaning-of-oss-osu-ossu" CreationDate="2018-10-27T04:14:00.007" UserId="9638" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18008" PostId="7660" Score="0" Text="This has already been addressed in &quot;Ip Man 2&quot;, where Ip Man fights western boxer Taylor Miller and in &quot;Ip Man 3&quot;, where Ip Man fights Mike Tyson." CreationDate="2018-10-27T04:56:05.200" UserId="7610" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18010" PostId="8636" Score="3" Text="@SeanDuggan Taegeuk is WT - which meant it was likely linked to the kukkiwon - Doing a search for &quot;kukkiwon temple&quot; this building and mountain appear in some searches - then a bit of searching around on those pages for the location found the palace name." CreationDate="2018-10-29T08:29:58.463" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18011" PostId="8636" Score="2" Text="Here is a more direct shot without people. The railings and side panels match very closely, and there are more pictures down the page as well. https://thesoulofseoul.net/2016/08/15/gyeongbokgung-palace-a-step-by-step-guide-to-missing-the-crowds/" CreationDate="2018-10-29T15:16:57.953" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18012" PostId="1290" Score="0" Text="The quote is taken out of context.  Kurz is a proponent of dynamic stretching, but stresses that a certain amount of bulk is needed to augment muscle fibers lost to stretching and thinning out.  I don't recall anything about body weight, but I do recall him saying that you must be able to control your kick at all of your ranges of motion.  Kick out and hold; if your foot drops, it means you don't have the strength to control the kick at that range.  https://www.stadion.com/" CreationDate="2018-10-29T20:34:02.673" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18013" PostId="8639" Score="2" Text="Welcome to the site. Please do take the [tour] and look at the [help] to see how we work. The second paragraph of your answer does not answer the question at all and is just a rant. You can edit your answer to remove it. You could expand the first part as well as it would make a really good answer." CreationDate="2018-10-30T08:12:31.543" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18014" PostId="7660" Score="0" Text="A good thumb rule for these kinds of questions is &quot;martial arts don't win or lose. Martial *artists* win or lose&quot;." CreationDate="2018-10-30T10:26:15.577" UserId="1965" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18015" PostId="7917" Score="0" Text="If you're referring to WT (WTF) Taekwondo, that is full contact, and knockouts are allowed.  That is not point sparring or light/no contact.  In ITF Taekwondo, tourny rules vary widely, but most of the ones I compete in or officiate in allow punches to the head.  In some of these matches, KOs are allowed for adults only.  In WT, even children (cadets) can issue/receive a KO." CreationDate="2018-10-30T15:39:47.253" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18016" PostId="7917" Score="0" Text="@Wigwam Yes, but training full contact isn't something most TKD schools actually do a lot of. Most of it is light contact, point sparring, at least while in school on a typical day. Even in WT schools. Only in competition will there be &quot;full contact&quot;. Even then, you don't see heavy contact all that much in competition. That's because you get more points more quickly if you don't try to do power techniques. The WT rules do try to incentivize KO's by giving 5 points for a spin kick to the head. Occasionally a KO happens. This is a really tangential discussion, though." CreationDate="2018-10-30T16:14:51.623" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18018" PostId="8641" Score="0" Text="Great question, Kurt. This is a very common occurrence in martial arts that feature full speed sparring. Getting your ass kicked is just a part of sparring, but there's a balance that needs to be maintained. There are some good answers here." CreationDate="2018-11-02T19:17:48.130" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18019" PostId="8596" Score="0" Text="Well, I use bing.com (which is a better search engine than google.com) and very difficult to find information on the show.  You can find matches or a few full shows on YouTube or other sites.  It's strange you won't find much more information than that.  In today's social media age we live in, I couldn't find any information on that guy who played &quot;Badd Karma.&quot;  He probably was a real underground MMA fighter who wanted to keep his identity secret, except for his Fight Zone matches to show his advanced self-defense techniques.  They need to bring that type of fighting back.  Real MMA." CreationDate="2018-11-02T20:48:39.333" UserId="9609" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18020" PostId="8596" Score="0" Text="They probably can't bring advanced underground MMA back because they would fight until the opponent was knocked out or incapacitated on the ground.  You can't tap out.  The combatants fight until one cannot fight any longer.  A true test of real, advanced MMA.  Because of this, this bloodsport fighting may be illegal, which is probably why it's hard to find information on this show.  They probably confiscated everything they could and tried to seal everything about Fight Zone.  Fighters were risking critical injury." CreationDate="2018-11-02T21:00:26.013" UserId="9609" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18021" PostId="8641" Score="0" Text="@coinbird Thx. All answers are very great. I'm planning on using them. But that student missed practice at the last session... I'm voting all answers up" CreationDate="2018-11-04T12:02:43.910" UserId="9665" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18022" PostId="8645" Score="0" Text="When I read the literal definition of `seiryoku zen'yō`, I thought it meant to be kinda slick... i.e when opponent pushes, I pull and when he pulls I push. I thought it meant to counterbalance in a smart (gentle) way" CreationDate="2018-11-04T12:05:43.593" UserId="9665" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18023" PostId="8645" Score="0" Text="@KurtMiller: What you describe is actually not disagreeing - overbalancing the partner by adding to a momentum of his own is exactly what it takes to use minimum strength for maximum efficiency: Only a partner out of balance can be thrown with little to no effort and there is no way to do this (kuzushi) with less strength than in adding to his own momentum. In this case, smartness and gentleness go hand in hand since only if you are acting smart you can throw with minimum effort and without the use of strength, i.e. gentle." CreationDate="2018-11-04T14:35:18.277" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18030" PostId="7660" Score="0" Text="@NoufalIbrahim true, but that said the guy from the MMA gym is gonna stomp the Tai Chi practitioner every time.   : )" CreationDate="2018-11-07T15:47:19.873" UserId="8536" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18031" PostId="8649" Score="0" Text="Could be. Not sure tho, cause from some of their moves it looks like developers decided to make them some kind of muay thai fighters. Here is a video I found on internet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGgCHQZ_RTE   Also Tony Jaa uses stance similiar to theirs in some of his movies. But what could be purpose of that lower hand, and the other so far from face?" CreationDate="2018-11-09T14:58:45.273" UserId="9679" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18032" PostId="8649" Score="0" Text="@loudman Your last question would make a fine one to post on  the site. I strongly encourage you to do so." CreationDate="2018-11-09T15:00:24.900" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18033" PostId="8649" Score="1" Text="@loudman That is most definitely *not* a Muay Thai stance." CreationDate="2018-11-09T15:02:06.850" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18034" PostId="8648" Score="0" Text="+1 In TKD sparring it is common to see the front arm in a low guard. You don't need a high guard because you are at kicking distance, not punching distance, and the position is efficient to block incoming kick to the mid section." CreationDate="2018-11-09T16:26:18.407" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18035" PostId="8649" Score="1" Text="The stance particularly reminds me of Bruce Lee in *Game of Death* (and in stylistic imitations of him such as the Law characters in *Tekken* with many of the promotional images showing him with just such a down-turned arm in the front, ready to deflect." CreationDate="2018-11-09T17:05:12.020" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18036" PostId="8648" Score="0" Text="This is the right answer, although the other answer about Jeet Kune Do is not exactly wrong either. The real reason for the low front arm is two fold: 1) Expectation of a kick coming in to defend against, and 2) offering an opening to your head as bait. In the case of #1, it's easy to understand. In the case of #2, the opening triggers a high attack with the hands to your face. If you can get your opponent to do it multiple times, it can show a pattern which can be predicted and used against your opponent. In TKD, it's usually #1. In karate and JKD, it's usually #2." CreationDate="2018-11-09T19:58:09.180" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18037" PostId="8627" Score="0" Text="&gt;Perhaps the language should be heliocentric rather than person oriented?&#xA;When I record my audio notes, and transcribe them, I use NSEW directions to say which way I move or face, rather than relative turns. Sometimes I use both just to clarify." CreationDate="2018-11-10T21:18:10.243" UserId="179" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18038" PostId="8647" Score="0" Text="By the by, we should have mentioned since you're new, but to accept an answer, click on the checkmark by the voting buttons." CreationDate="2018-11-12T19:00:41.457" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18042" PostId="2250" Score="0" Text="sounds like a direct translation from chinese, or something..." CreationDate="2018-11-13T14:22:12.557" UserId="7192" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18043" PostId="8652" Score="2" Text="Mmmm...peek a boo more refers to the hand placement (as I understand it), not necessarily the slipping. As far as emulating a specific boxer, what works for them may not work for you. The spine is not really designed to whip side to side like that, so yes, that can be causing the back pain. Rather than trying to emulate one specific boxer, work to implement those elements in a way that fits your own body and capabilities." CreationDate="2018-11-13T14:45:02.187" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18044" PostId="8654" Score="1" Text="To make images smaller, add an `s` (or `m`)  between the end of the URL and the .png… See edited answer." CreationDate="2018-11-14T07:46:57.027" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18046" PostId="8654" Score="1" Text="You are most welcome. I edited the links as well." CreationDate="2018-11-14T09:11:31.487" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18047" PostId="8655" Score="7" Text="Currently, this feel like an opinion question, although the question of whether Judo belts traditionally have writing, or are unadorned, seems like a reasonable one." CreationDate="2018-11-14T21:02:14.740" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18048" PostId="8652" Score="0" Text="The side-to-side dodging in the linked video is not a good habit to establish given you're training MT as well as boxing.  In MT (and other martial arts and actual fights) you need to be balanced afterwards so you can both throw kicks/knees and move to avoid or check incoming kicks/knees.  Leaning to the side like that means your weight will be heavily on one leg, which then can't kick and can be easily kicked.  Your head bobbing out of punch range won't save it from a kick either.  So, either find safer boxing techniques, or forget MT and self defence and enjoy boxing as a game/sport..." CreationDate="2018-11-15T02:45:27.880" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18049" PostId="8655" Score="5" Text="For whatever it's worth, https://www.kusakurashop.com/pages/embroidery has some insights - &quot;For international competitions [...] under 20 cm [on] one side on the belt. Usually, only the name of the competitor is accepted.&quot; and some examples of other options for belt for local competition use or general training like dojo names etc.." CreationDate="2018-11-15T02:53:18.727" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18050" PostId="8652" Score="1" Text="@TonyD Good observation and totally valid points. I have no problem with my MT stance (I don't duck or lean like they do in boxing), and I am aware not to transfer over my habits from boxing to MT. I have been doing both for the same amount of time and have managed to keep my posture and fighting stance separate." CreationDate="2018-11-15T05:02:16.777" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18051" PostId="8657" Score="2" Text="The question asks about the risks involved in practicing Jiu Jitsu - suggesting another martial art without touching on Jiu Jitsu is not answering the question. (Your advice may be valid - but equally he may be fine to train Jiu Jitsu with a little extra care). Consider adding in why Jiu Jitsu is not appropriate?" CreationDate="2018-11-15T15:57:03.090" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18052" PostId="8658" Score="2" Text="The English vs. Japanese writing idea is funny. In Japan, English and other western languages are considered &quot;cool&quot;. Same with Korea. Most in the U.S. think kanji/kana lettering is cool. It really comes down to: Different is cool. But personally, my name written in kana seems wrong to me. My name has always been written in English. That's my real name and how it's spelled, so that's what I would use on my belt. The fact that I can translate it into kana just means I'm capable of looking it up on the web. It doesn't mean I'm smart and know Japanese for real. So to me it's pretentious." CreationDate="2018-11-15T17:12:28.010" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18053" PostId="8654" Score="0" Text="Clearly your Google kung fu is greater than mine. I think the Venom one is exactly what Dom is using in the video. Thanks a lot!" CreationDate="2018-11-16T18:02:14.560" UserId="3105" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18054" PostId="8657" Score="0" Text="Also, if you could touch upon how tai chi internal strengthening will help with bone structure?" CreationDate="2018-11-17T00:05:37.240" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18055" PostId="8655" Score="4" Text="The only correct answer if you ask for &quot;traditionally&quot; is: Nothing. Writing is useful for instructors of literate children/teens as for &quot;if you forget my name&quot; (name in plain letters) and showing the Kanji of Judo for them to recognise. Other than that, it is just fancy. And fanciness is traditionally not appreciated in Japan." CreationDate="2018-11-18T12:29:08.267" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18059" PostId="8661" Score="0" Text="310 what? At a guess, pounds, though it would be helpful to specify." CreationDate="2018-11-19T15:37:49.240" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18060" PostId="8661" Score="0" Text="@MikeP - 310 lbs is the only answer that makes sense. Kilos would equate to 682 lbs and stone would be impossible." CreationDate="2018-11-19T18:54:19.853" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18061" PostId="8661" Score="0" Text="Along with the advice in the answer and the linked questions, conider: You are 43 years old, overweight (Depending on height, your weight classification would be morbidly obese), you have knee problems. I would take the research that you have done to a consult with a physician. Let them help you find a healthy way to train. Along with training you need to look at diet, lifestyle changes, etc. I heartily encourage you to pursue this, but in a safe and healthy way so you can keep on doing it for a long time." CreationDate="2018-11-19T18:58:27.503" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18062" PostId="8665" Score="1" Text="These are the rules for a small organization called &quot;US Grappling.&quot; They are not the governing body of BJJ, as one does not exist." CreationDate="2018-11-19T21:59:45.957" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18064" PostId="8667" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the answer! I agree that is a shame to keep winning gold medals as a white belt for a long time. But, unfortunately,  some people prefer to win this way rather than evolve as a fighter." CreationDate="2018-11-20T11:37:10.617" UserId="5606" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18070" PostId="8667" Score="1" Text="@ElMynx Fortunately that doesn't really happen much. Anyone that trains enough to crush white belt tournaments probably craves a challenge. And anyone sticking around too long and beating up white belts would start to get noticed by other coaches, and banned from tournaments. Many tournaments even have a &quot;you can only win one gold at white belt&quot; rule. Some tournaments give you two." CreationDate="2018-11-20T15:19:56.050" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18072" PostId="8669" Score="0" Text="Do you mean &quot;crotch&quot;?" CreationDate="2018-11-20T17:49:39.023" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18073" PostId="8669" Score="0" Text="I mean the pelvis area. I spelled it wrong." CreationDate="2018-11-20T17:51:00.340" UserId="9702" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18075" PostId="8672" Score="2" Text="Do you have any evidence of this, other than &quot;dude go look&quot;?" CreationDate="2018-11-20T19:47:28.157" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18077" PostId="8675" Score="1" Text="Possible duplicate of [Is hitting hard objects really effective in making bones harder?](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/5728/is-hitting-hard-objects-really-effective-in-making-bones-harder)" CreationDate="2018-11-21T08:26:20.383" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18078" PostId="8669" Score="4" Text="Opening with an uppercut feels to me like using the bayonet of my rifle before attempting to shoot - it could be effective - but the most important bit of that tactic is how do I get close enough without being hit? which is missing from this answer" CreationDate="2018-11-21T08:51:56.277" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18079" PostId="8674" Score="1" Text="I second the side kick - anywhere around the hip to jam that rotation - A couple of people I train with have this spot on and can completely stop me from doing any hip powered kick. (its never really a side kick either - a weak toe poke is enough to stop the hip)" CreationDate="2018-11-21T08:56:50.220" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18080" PostId="8675" Score="0" Text="It sounds like you're saying when you do the round kick with your shin, the part of the shin that actually hits is the fleshy side to the outside side of the shin. Ideally you need to make contact with the bone part of the shin, dead-center. But you're saying you're trying that, and yet the outside of the shin (the fleshy part) hits instead. This sounds like it could be either a hip flexibility issue or a defect you've had since birth called pigeon toe which causes your feet and shin to turn inward. The former is easier to correct than the latter." CreationDate="2018-11-21T15:14:56.457" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18081" PostId="8677" Score="0" Text="Just for professionals or amateurs too?" CreationDate="2018-11-21T17:22:10.883" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18083" PostId="8677" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion - my guess this is more prominent in pro, due to the extremes at which they train and compete, and the value of the prizes. But amateurs are not governed like pros, and amateurs can go back to fighting as soon as they feel better - not necessarily when a doc says they can. I assume anyone I fight could have bypassed a concussion test, since I was never given one. Although I submit a health clearance from a doctor, I could have doctored the doctor's note - no one checks.  Amateurs should be considered, pros already have a protocol." CreationDate="2018-11-21T18:42:22.797" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18084" PostId="8675" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand no I don’t have pigeon toe, but u would describe is true. Right now if I directly press down from the top of my shin, I feel flesh then bone, so my flesh is taking most of the force, which just bruises my leg and doesn’t allow the full impact to hit my bone. I also suspect it’s a flexibility issue. Whenever I stretch I feel a lot of pain in my hips, so kicking is a bit awkward for me, unless it’s a very low kick." CreationDate="2018-11-21T20:58:43.670" UserId="7756" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18085" PostId="8675" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion totally irrelevant. No idea why you’d think that it’s a duplicate. Furthermore that question is completely ridiculous as it’s already medically proven to be true. Not like ufc fighters are born with unbreakable shins either, so the shin must be strengthening. Common sense if you put some thought into it. Medically proven if you spend some time researching it." CreationDate="2018-11-21T21:00:27.373" UserId="7756" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18087" PostId="5732" Score="0" Text="That article talks about actual fractures, not micro fractures." CreationDate="2018-11-21T21:05:34.840" UserId="7756" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18088" PostId="8675" Score="2" Text="Interesting. So your shin has muscle where most people do not?" CreationDate="2018-11-21T21:07:05.917" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18089" PostId="8675" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand No that's not true. The muscle just protrudes further than the tibia, so it takes the blunt of the hit first, unless my technique is wrong, which I'm more leaning to the latter." CreationDate="2018-11-21T22:07:39.723" UserId="7756" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18090" PostId="8675" Score="2" Text="Yeah most people have literally no muscle covering the lower tibia bone on the shins. It's skin and bone, nothing else. That's normal. If your muscle is large enough that it's impeding the kick, congrats on having big muscles! Now, you're going to have to have your coach deal with that somehow. If it's just not working for you, I'm afraid altering the kick will not help you. It will merely make for a lousy kick and possibly cause you pain and damage later on. So you have to have someone with experience look at you and your kick real carefully. We can't help you. This is a hands on thing." CreationDate="2018-11-21T22:14:10.873" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18091" PostId="8388" Score="0" Text="This is even better, and cheap&#xA;[link]https://www.dhgate.com/product/backless-1pair-2pcs-half-toe-yoga-socks-non/412499885.html[link]" CreationDate="2018-11-22T06:39:52.030" UserId="8980" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18092" PostId="8395" Score="0" Text="The Vibran manufacturers were sued for making false claims. I wore these shoes for more than a year resulting in weak ankles. Don't use them!" CreationDate="2018-11-22T06:42:37.937" UserId="8980" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18094" PostId="8682" Score="1" Text="Welcome to the site, could you highlight what research you have already done (and why this was not adequate)? in its current form this question is likely to be closed for lack of prior research." CreationDate="2018-11-22T14:58:27.327" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18095" PostId="8682" Score="0" Text="Sure! My teacher gave me some Italian video links and book resources but I do not like them, find them too personal and not broad enough. Looked for videos on YouTube and found something but my knowledge doesn’t let me understand if they are good or not (hence the looking for advice). Let me know if this is fine" CreationDate="2018-11-22T15:00:26.127" UserId="9709" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18096" PostId="8682" Score="0" Text="We are still reading like we are expecting a list - I think there is enough information there to make a good question - recognising a good book from a bad one seems like a reasonable fit. Perhaps change the title to &quot;How to recognise reputable resources on Tai-Chi philosophy?&quot; - with most martial arts there are huge differences school to school (and instructor to instructor) so a good book for me might be a bad book for you - hence knowing *what* to look for is usually better than &quot;which book/s&quot;" CreationDate="2018-11-22T15:13:05.373" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18097" PostId="8682" Score="0" Text="Done! :) let me know if this looks good!" CreationDate="2018-11-22T15:14:51.717" UserId="9709" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18098" PostId="8682" Score="0" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it shows no prior research whatsoever and is asking for a long list of things which stack does not do." CreationDate="2018-11-22T16:00:31.970" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18099" PostId="8682" Score="0" Text="Please... tell me what I should do to have your opinion on what’s the best resource for learning tai chi... why is there such a violence against someone asking for help? Also, looking here on SE for “Tai Chi Book” there is no result so... I think this is a pretty on topic question." CreationDate="2018-11-22T16:19:34.453" UserId="9709" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18100" PostId="8682" Score="0" Text="Please go read the [help] and take the [tour] to see how we work. We do not do multiple questions in one. We do not do long lists of things. &quot;Best&quot; is highly subjective and unlikely to yield any good results. If you wanted to learn how to recognise a reputable book, that would make a fine question. As it stands, your multiple questions are not a good fit." CreationDate="2018-11-22T16:32:26.357" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18101" PostId="8682" Score="0" Text="May I create another question asking for “what is a good book for learning Tai Chi?” Would that be ok?" CreationDate="2018-11-22T16:35:19.510" UserId="9709" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18102" PostId="8682" Score="0" Text="No, it would not be a good question: it is highly subjective and still asking for a list as there's no single book that covers all styles over all others. It would result in a popularity contest." CreationDate="2018-11-22T16:38:33.753" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18103" PostId="8682" Score="0" Text="Well...fine... I’ll find another way. But let me tell you that, in the end, all questions here get a personal subjective response because there is a human behind the screen. Then other people add their own answer and other vote up or down, so all a popularity contest again... so I really do not see why, instead of losing time criticising my question, one could not answer: “this book is good for me, avoid that”." CreationDate="2018-11-22T16:41:34.707" UserId="9709" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18104" PostId="8682" Score="0" Text="If you have the time, dig into Youtube and look up Chen Zhenglei. He's one of the best. As for philosophy and written material, it's generally all not going to make any sense. Most of what is out there is junk, fluff that appeals to new-age types and those looking for some sort of spirituality. But to learn taiji, you need to learn from someone who knows internal mechanics and can make you feel it. It took my chen style instructor (a direct student of Chen Qingzhou) less than 10 minutes before I could feel and do p'eng jing in a dynamic way..." CreationDate="2018-11-22T17:23:28.057" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18106" PostId="8682" Score="0" Text="... Whereas I had been doing yang and wu style for 2 years prior to that with other instructors, and thought I knew what it was about, but I was wrong. I had read all the nonsense fluff out there about it and managed to convince myself I knew it. Wrong. You don't begin to understand until you have someone show you. A good instructor can do that in just 10 minutes. Whereas getting with an instructor who doesn't know the first thing about it (99% of them) will only lead you to an exercise that looks like taiji. Good luck!" CreationDate="2018-11-22T17:25:43.033" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18107" PostId="8682" Score="0" Text="Check out my user profile and my answers, by the way. You'll find I've written some stuff about Taiji which you might find interesting... https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/users/1555/steve-weigand" CreationDate="2018-11-22T17:27:04.417" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18108" PostId="8682" Score="0" Text="This one for example: https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/6191/how-long-should-the-tai-chi-basic-24-form-take/6198#6198" CreationDate="2018-11-22T17:31:50.917" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18109" PostId="8681" Score="0" Text="I don't have access to a makiwara, and my skin is not sensitive. Is there a correlation between sensitive skin and massive bruising? No, and the latter is the issue, not pain." CreationDate="2018-11-22T23:48:02.183" UserId="7756" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18110" PostId="8682" Score="1" Text="Trying to suggest a book based only on the thin criteria of covering taiji is very difficult. Although the philosophy and theory may basically be the same, the way movements are performed between styles is not. Forms will not be the same, and significant elements like whether the body leans or remains upright may be different. Although you are not asking for a list of books, every book will equally meet the criteria, leading to a list from multiple answers. To be more helpful, you should at a minimum include what style of taiji you are learning and what forms if any are covered." CreationDate="2018-11-23T01:34:55.987" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18111" PostId="8669" Score="1" Text="@jehovahsays Perhaps you can share how you plan to open up an exchange with uppercuts (against someone like Samkor who has already established a long distance position to hit you with his kicks). If one is not in Jabbing range, then a short range punch like an uppercut will be futile. Also, against a southpaw kicker, the right uppercut is extremely dangerous given such would leave the head open for a direct power roundhouse kick. Punches from a Muay Mat may work given proper movement techniques (as explained by Tony in his answer)." CreationDate="2018-11-23T03:02:27.727" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18112" PostId="8669" Score="1" Text="@jehovahsays If you however meant to say: Block the Left Roundhouse Kick with both arms and burst with a counter right uppercut (before or at the same time his kicking leg returns to the ground) then that would be a good technique." CreationDate="2018-11-23T03:02:32.180" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18113" PostId="8682" Score="0" Text="@mattm I’m learning Chen style. But thank you for at least politely explaining me why my question would have led to not satisfactory answer, I’m very grateful for that." CreationDate="2018-11-23T07:41:09.650" UserId="9709" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18114" PostId="8683" Score="1" Text="There are plenty of self defence questions on this site already - such as https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/644/when-should-i-run-away - and most forms of self defence are fight avoidance.&#xA;Which section of the standard self defence advice do you feel is affected by having a &quot;broken fist&quot;?" CreationDate="2018-11-23T14:22:09.157" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18115" PostId="8684" Score="0" Text="I could be mistaken, but there seems to be some error in translation here. The English term, “chest” refers almost exclusively to the pectoral muscles - there is no such thing as “chest sides” or “sides of the chest”. You did mention the serratus anterior and lats though, this leads me to believe you are referring to the sides of your “torso”. Let me know if this is correct." CreationDate="2018-11-23T13:00:44.120" UserDisplayName="JustSnilloc" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18116" PostId="8684" Score="0" Text="corrected the post." CreationDate="2018-11-23T13:05:00.907" UserDisplayName="user29173" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18117" PostId="8684" Score="5" Text="This is a better fit on martial arts, but the answers will most likely be &quot;you're being dumb. Go get training and stop yard fighting.&quot;" CreationDate="2018-11-23T14:33:31.740" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18118" PostId="8685" Score="1" Text="Yup. You fight with what you got. No hands, then use the legs, elbows, knees, and headbutt. Grappling is still quite possible. And a broken hand doesn't necessarily mean you can't use your hands. Likely your body's natural chemical response will give you some pain immunity temporarily during the fight. After the fight, you'll wish you hadn't kept using your hands after they were broken, though. Anyway, it's either fight, flight, give up, or talk your way out of it. Those are your choices." CreationDate="2018-11-23T18:41:04.880" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18119" PostId="8686" Score="1" Text="this doesn't actually answer the question" CreationDate="2018-11-23T21:45:27.567" UserDisplayName="user9713" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18120" PostId="8686" Score="3" Text="@Gorman - What the OP needs is a qualified instructor, and this answer suggests exactly that.  Thus, the question is properly answered." CreationDate="2018-11-23T23:18:35.967" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18121" PostId="8683" Score="0" Text="I would recommend they avoid having to fight, that is the best self defense of all." CreationDate="2018-11-24T09:52:16.117" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18122" PostId="8688" Score="1" Text="&quot;Your stance, your eyeline, ...&quot; all true, and another - even simpler? - one for the list: breathing.  I had a beginner holding pads at Muay Thai training a week or so back, and they wanted to stop despite me going gently - turned out that they didn't intuitively know even to breath out and tense when struck.  Such an obvious thing that often isn't even taught, as students pick it up from watching their seniors and peers holding pads long before they start sparring.  Anyone not training with any experienced peers around misses out on all that knowledge transfer." CreationDate="2018-11-24T11:51:20.477" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18123" PostId="8686" Score="2" Text="@gorman It does answer the question :stop doing stupid things is the answer." CreationDate="2018-11-24T16:02:13.860" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18124" PostId="8689" Score="1" Text="Thanks for selecting my answer. Just wanted to suggest that you give a little more time for people to post their answers in the future. After a few days go by where no more answers are coming in, that's probably a good time to select the best one. That gives you more diverse perspectives. Because after you select the best one, probably most people stop posting their answers, thinking you've already got your answer. Just some advice for the future, in order to get the most out of this forum." CreationDate="2018-11-26T05:47:53.977" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18125" PostId="8694" Score="0" Text="Thank you @mattm (also for editing my question so professionally). I indeed go every week to Tai Chi class and practice home as often as I can, but I needed some kind of theoretic support. All this is great! Thank you" CreationDate="2018-11-26T07:19:06.990" UserId="9709" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18126" PostId="7466" Score="0" Text="Agree with @Dungarth double knife is likely signifying control of/trapping the opponents arm." CreationDate="2018-11-26T13:55:43.377" UserId="1681" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18127" PostId="8683" Score="0" Text="I would recommend that if you are in a match and break both fists, you tap out. There comes a point where you just have to concede." CreationDate="2018-11-26T15:18:19.310" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18128" PostId="8686" Score="1" Text="@Gorman - I think it answers the question quite nicely in the spirit of the site." CreationDate="2018-11-26T15:25:59.657" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18129" PostId="8676" Score="1" Text="Thanks for your answer, @BIU! And I totally disagree with this promotion rule too. But, at least it is a non-competitive approach. Probably we will never find a guy training for personal-defense in a championship. But, 4 years as a white belt can be very frustrating, specially if you miss the seminars for some reason." CreationDate="2018-11-26T15:52:43.693" UserId="5606" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18130" PostId="260" Score="0" Text="I’m sorry but that is simply not true. There is no point going to the trouble of making up a fake form just to obfuscate and confuse practitioners." CreationDate="2018-11-27T20:09:27.043" UserId="424" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18131" PostId="8699" Score="2" Text="It would help more if you shared how the book addresses his question." CreationDate="2018-11-28T03:27:17.933" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18132" PostId="8700" Score="1" Text="I agree, that's the most practical approach. And making sure to not talk too much myself. I think keeping a mouthguard in might help too." CreationDate="2018-11-28T06:10:51.767" UserId="9638" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18133" PostId="260" Score="0" Text="@RolandTepp You missed the point: the point is to obfuscate to observers, not practitioners. Deception is key in war." CreationDate="2018-11-28T07:49:38.047" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18137" PostId="8706" Score="1" Text="And purchasing your own heavy bag, particularly if you can get one cheap secondhand, is a good investment if you have the space. Cheaper than medical treatment for punching the wall, or for injuries from getting into a fight, and the reduction in stress is good for your health. Just get light gloves (even thin cloth ones) or you'll get questions about the scrapes on your knuckles after particularly stressful days." CreationDate="2018-11-29T13:57:33.637" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18138" PostId="8706" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan I had a heavy bag as a teenager - homemade canvas thing - it got me through break ups, arguments with my parents and brother, and countless other times when I felt angry for no real reason - at the cost of occasional bloodied knuckles when I was particularly mad at it... better than any therapist or drug prescription for dealing with those years. Fantastic suggestion" CreationDate="2018-11-29T15:09:49.230" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18139" PostId="8705" Score="0" Text="I think that depends on the gym more than the art. Safer gyms would deter novices from going for broke until they learn some control. It doesn't take a lot of effort (or even any intent for that matter) to seriously mess someone up." CreationDate="2018-11-29T17:28:28.543" UserId="9638" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18140" PostId="8690" Score="0" Text="Is this a jab for damage or a jab to elicit a response?" CreationDate="2018-11-29T20:23:47.590" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18141" PostId="8709" Score="1" Text="This misses the point - the OP is asking about how to avoid conversation during class - such that they can focus on their technique and training." CreationDate="2018-11-30T09:04:00.980" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18142" PostId="8709" Score="0" Text="I hadn't heard that about a daily talking volume. Thanks for the info Tommy!" CreationDate="2018-11-30T16:56:22.410" UserId="9638" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18143" PostId="8705" Score="0" Text="@admcfajn It would also be pretty easy for an experienced fighter to control someone without hurting them. When these guys come into my gym I just take them down and put them in various humiliating grappling positions." CreationDate="2018-11-30T16:57:12.267" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18144" PostId="8705" Score="0" Text="@coinbird absolutely &amp; thanks, I hadn't considered that in my response. I was more concerned about 2 novices going at it." CreationDate="2018-11-30T17:04:34.793" UserId="9638" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18149" PostId="8711" Score="2" Text="I hope you don't feel too discouraged by how often your posts seem to be getting downvoted. We have our own particular standards around here, and the relative quiet of the site has resulted in it largely being populated by the most invested members. Feel free to join us to chat at https://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/79444/open-roda. We're not around all the time, but a handful of us check around on a vaguely daily basis and you can always flag someone by using the &quot;@&quot; notation." CreationDate="2018-12-03T12:45:33.663" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18150" PostId="8711" Score="0" Text="Thank you. I was beginning to think those comments and down votes were created by bad bots." CreationDate="2018-12-03T13:29:36.230" UserId="9702" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18151" PostId="8711" Score="3" Text="As the site documentation reminds us, &quot;comments are not the place for discussion&quot;, so I'd be glad to talk on the chat. But long story short, your answers need a bit more substance and background to them, rather than personal anecdote (and possibly a bit more proofreading)." CreationDate="2018-12-03T13:55:08.300" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18153" PostId="8713" Score="1" Text="Welcome to the site. Unfortunately, I don't know if we can answer this as it is very broad, and the only information that we have is &quot;I feel worse&quot;. The second item is also vague, and should probably be its own question. What has your instructor said when you asked him/her about this?" CreationDate="2018-12-03T18:30:02.553" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18154" PostId="6054" Score="1" Text="@Evorlor - Make your fingers into a circle like a little kid imitating a telescope. Put it up to your eye. Slowly close it into a fist. Your vision becomes a tunnel that closes down. Same type of effect, your &quot;outside&quot; vision (Peripheral) starts to blur, and your focus field (That which is still sharp) narrows and closes down." CreationDate="2018-12-03T18:33:49.027" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18156" PostId="8713" Score="0" Text="Can you explain why you were unable to practice kicks on this shorter guy? And how long were you working with him? What sort of problems are you having?" CreationDate="2018-12-03T20:26:21.077" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18157" PostId="8689" Score="0" Text="^_^ And no hard feelings about unaccepting mine. Steve's is the better answer." CreationDate="2018-12-03T20:43:35.403" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18158" PostId="8713" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan He was very short compared to me, like, my high kick became a kick in between the low and the middle kick.&#xA;He was blocking and I was kicking, and then we would reverse the roles.&#xA;The problem is that I got used to doing it, and now I'm not kicking how I used to.&#xA;&#xA;The problems are:&#xA;-Distance problems&#xA;-I'm either extending too late or too early&#xA;-Power problems(but i think this is caused due to the first and second problems)" CreationDate="2018-12-03T20:49:53.393" UserId="9735" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18159" PostId="8713" Score="0" Text="@JohnP My instructor is not the kind of guy that would try to correct every mistake of yours.He would just say &quot;You are not good enough&quot;&#xA;I will try to correct the question because I am also feeling like it's vague." CreationDate="2018-12-03T20:52:59.583" UserId="9735" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18160" PostId="8713" Score="0" Text="@DarX: Are you only able to train with this one fellow?" CreationDate="2018-12-03T21:11:05.187" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18161" PostId="8713" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan No, but the problem is, since that time, my kicks started to get worse.&#xA;The problem is that, I don't choose my partners.Maybe if I chose someone who had better kicks, I would have gotten better, but the thing is that our training is very diffrent from other gyms.&#xA;The thing is that I just want to know how to manage my distance better, how to know when to extend, how to raise my leg up very easy(I can do the splits), and  when to extend." CreationDate="2018-12-03T21:24:08.777" UserId="9735" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18162" PostId="8713" Score="0" Text="@DarX I think that if you train with some taller partners, once you get past the awkwardness of heightened expectations, you'll find that your kicks get better against people your size and larger." CreationDate="2018-12-03T21:25:26.180" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18163" PostId="8713" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan I'll try that.Because, I think tomorrow I will spar someone which is like 15 cm taller than me, and 20 kg heavier, and I will try throwing high kicks.Thanks for the tip!&#xA;And do you know a tip that will make my front foot(left) be solid, and not to flinch when it's kicked?I mean, I got myself some strong and solid legs, but I think I can do better when it comes to keeping them stable when I get a low kick." CreationDate="2018-12-03T21:30:05.360" UserId="9735" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18165" PostId="8716" Score="3" Text="Welcome to the site. Your answer would be greatly improved if you provided some references/links to your claims. Could you edit it to add those? Thank you." CreationDate="2018-12-04T08:32:59.523" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18166" PostId="8718" Score="4" Text="Please see a medical professional about your knee problem - random internet people don't usually make the best doctors." CreationDate="2018-12-04T08:35:39.057" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18167" PostId="8718" Score="2" Text="Welcome to the site. You could salvage the question by refocusing it on how to improve your horse stance. This should be on topic. However, medical advise is indeed off topic." CreationDate="2018-12-04T08:37:10.083" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18168" PostId="8716" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site Steve. Note that you've traced one of the derivatives, there are others that are based on traditional Okinawan practices. It's quite common for someone to evolve or transform an art when they set up to teach it, hence why there are derivatives." CreationDate="2018-12-04T10:50:35.560" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18169" PostId="8718" Score="2" Text="Hi Catherine - there can be many reasons why this is happening, can you explain further? How deep in horse stance are you? Feet straight or angled out? How long are you in position before your knee buckles? Are you large or small? When moving or standing in your stance is your weight correctly distributed? Have you done any strength work?" CreationDate="2018-12-04T10:58:27.083" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18171" PostId="8693" Score="0" Text="Deleted my answer, Tony D's answer explains it perfectly fine." CreationDate="2018-12-04T12:30:22.063" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18172" PostId="8626" Score="2" Text="This answer would apply if Dyspraxia was a mental disorder. But it is a development disorder. This means that his brain's motor functions are underdeveloped to the point where his brain can't properly instruct the body to move. This means that he probably can't do jumping jacks efficiently. He can probably do them, but they won't be by any means symmetrical. That said, this development can still be progressed by practicing. So that part of your answer stands." CreationDate="2018-12-04T12:49:47.133" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18174" PostId="8408" Score="0" Text="My belt is decently frayed and lost some of its colour. As long as it performs its purpose, I don't see a need for replacement. We already live in a world where everything material is replaced for small amounts of wear and tear. It's something I can't really agree on." CreationDate="2018-12-04T13:09:03.280" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18175" PostId="8262" Score="0" Text="The big difference is that the feather fall is not a fall caused by the 'thrower'. It is a safety mechanism to avoid having your wrist, arm or shoulder hurt. Instead of being thrown, you throw yourself out of the lock. In Judo, you are being thrown and have zero control of said throw whilst falling. Your only option when thrown in Judo is to slap the ground to mitigate the impact. Philip talks about rolling out of a Seoi-nage. Yes, during practice you can roll to avoid being thrown. If you are being thrown for real, you're coming down flat on your back because your opponent will hold and pull." CreationDate="2018-12-04T13:27:17.023" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18177" PostId="8551" Score="0" Text="I agree that there could be some formatting changes.  However, +1 for a great attitude - often, that is what people lack when introspecting." CreationDate="2018-12-04T20:19:02.127" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18178" PostId="8718" Score="1" Text="my instructors ask us to go as low and wide as we can in our stance they want me to exaggerate distance, we do single, triple and punches in three while in horse stance, that when it usual it buckles. My feet are always pointed forward, I try not lean,  we do this for a good minute maybe a little less. I am 90% sure that weight is distributed correctly. I started stretching every other day and running backwards as well doing wall squats, also just stretching more before practicing at the dojo." CreationDate="2018-12-04T20:51:08.610" UserId="9739" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18179" PostId="8718" Score="0" Text="I see this from time to time in some students, so I do think it relevant to martial arts.  Kindly reword it, and indicate what your doctor says, if you've seen a doctor.  I'm curious if you suffer from a condition called &quot;genu recurvatum&quot; (aka, knee hyperextension or back knee).  In this case, you will definitely need to see a specialist who can help you work with your instructor.  Otherwise, simple strength exercises - barring any abnormality your doctor might indicate - might be in order for you." CreationDate="2018-12-04T20:57:43.367" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18180" PostId="8262" Score="0" Text="@Sjana: I think we are broadly in agreement here. What I can not subscribe to is the zero control thing. If you are used to it, you can control quite a lot of whether and how you are thrown and how you land when falling. When others have a 100% control while throwing they are either way above your skill level or you are just bad at defending throws. It's just that hoping for the mitigation **by rolling** needed is a gamble I would not risk with the factor of another human involved, regardless of it being in the context of a throw or a lock." CreationDate="2018-12-04T21:53:06.710" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18181" PostId="8718" Score="1" Text="That's great detail Catherine - can you edit that into your question (hit the edit link below the question), then we can get your question re-opened." CreationDate="2018-12-05T02:38:25.667" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18182" PostId="8721" Score="0" Text="Completely disagree. Chest protectors are strictly for drilling technique (in real combat sports). Wearing one in sparring would hinder your ability to duck, roll, and otherwise avoid strikes. It would also build bad habits of leaving your body open as the strikes wouldn't hurt like they should." CreationDate="2018-12-05T16:22:40.580" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18183" PostId="8693" Score="1" Text="I sometimes step in with my jab so my opponent thinks my reach is longer than it actually is. This forces them to close the distance when they don't actually need to, which opens up an opportunity for me to shoot for a takedown. Aside from that situation, I agree with you." CreationDate="2018-12-05T16:24:59.180" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18184" PostId="8721" Score="0" Text="I work with a lot of kids and women, so my perspective probably tilts towards safety first. I'd still recommend **something** for protection, most of the time. For lower belts/beginners, I think it should still be mandatory. Big boys and girls can do as they please, and I'd prefer lighter/thinner/less coverage for the reasons you state. Mostly, I want to protect my floating ribs and solar plexus." CreationDate="2018-12-06T17:11:49.560" UserId="9743" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18185" PostId="8718" Score="0" Text="I don't understand whether there are any special knee considerations in this question. Are your knees normal and you just need advice on how to have a stable horse stance?" CreationDate="2018-12-06T21:29:43.087" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18186" PostId="8718" Score="1" Text="I also do not understand what &quot;My knee keeps buckling whenever I am in horse stance front thus kick it is almost like it's going backwards&quot; means. In your additional comment, you are punching when your knee buckles. What does kicking have to do with this? What's going backwards?" CreationDate="2018-12-06T21:34:35.390" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18187" PostId="8718" Score="1" Text="When you say your instructors want your stance low and wide, how wide is this? Are your feet underneath your knees, or are your feet our wider than your knees?" CreationDate="2018-12-06T21:35:36.497" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18188" PostId="8262" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking The thing about Judo is, the throw, once started perfectly, can not be stopped. The throw is always made when the Uke is out of balance. That is the core principal of Judo. Instead of using force, you just redirect their kinetic energy. This means that you can't really gain control when the throw has already started. However, you can jump with movement to nullify the kinetic energy by making you kinetic speed and direction similar to the intended throw. As a result you &quot;outrun&quot; the pull of the throw. Look up Kyuzo Mifune, he shows it really well." CreationDate="2018-12-07T04:41:20.063" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18189" PostId="8262" Score="0" Text="@Sjana: That is exactly what I was talking about as well when contesting the notion of &quot;zero control&quot;, to be honest: Mifune exemplifies *one* way to mitigate the impetus at a very early stage (full control &quot;uke&quot;), the standard &quot;hard&quot; breakfall after a perfect throw is *another* (full control tori) and then there are a bazillion grades of the proportions of control between two contesters that are in between these two possibilities. It is just that it's at the whim or ability of *tori*, not *uke*, whether any level of mitigation *by rolling* is possible, even if ukes ability is decisive to do it" CreationDate="2018-12-07T08:32:45.790" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18190" PostId="8262" Score="0" Text="(rolling is meant here not in the sense of &quot;rolling with the movement&quot; (like boxers roll with punches, Mifune rolls with throws), but in the sense of a rolling component of a breakfall that mitigates impetus that would be shared between hard ground and body otherwise)" CreationDate="2018-12-07T08:34:36.600" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18191" PostId="8262" Score="0" Text="Yes, but in Judo this is not possible. You have no forward, sideways or any other motion that allows for a roll. a good judo throw gets you straight down to the ground, on your back. The Olympics are not a good representation of real Judo. When 2 people try to attack and not get thrown, you end up with mainly boring grappling where people turn around before they can get thrown and then sit on the ground. That is not Judo, don't look at the Olympics. Judo is purely defensive, nothing else. You see your chance, you go for it and use it. And if you picked your chance right, your opponent is done." CreationDate="2018-12-09T01:21:16.593" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18192" PostId="2256" Score="0" Text="Just going to necro this post to add something. Yes, strength helps during Judo competition because Judo wasn't meant for competition. Judo is purely defensive. Using Judo for offense is in and of itself against what Judo stands for. But I digress. There are people who like to turn martial arts into a sport, and that's fine. But I can't really call it Judo. It's just Sports Judo. It's like how a lot of ancient Chinese martial arts are now only for show rather than what they were designed for. To defend themselves against the invaders." CreationDate="2018-12-09T01:27:27.437" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18193" PostId="5729" Score="2" Text="^this is a myth. Life expectancy wasn't really ever 40, but average life length was 40~ mostly because of the large amount of deaths in childbirth. If you lived to 40, even in the past, you were probably going to live to 70~." CreationDate="2018-12-09T02:49:54.890" UserId="9718" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18194" PostId="8718" Score="0" Text="My suspicion is that that line should be &quot;My knee keeps buckling whenever I am in horse stance or doing a front thrust kick; it is almost like it's going backwards&quot;, but I'm hesitant to edit it to that because it requires some assumption of intent." CreationDate="2018-12-09T22:31:12.987" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18195" PostId="8718" Score="1" Text="I overcame my wariness of assuming intent here. I'm still not certain of the correct answer because I don't necessarily follow how the knee could buckle backwards in a situation where it's bent the other direction." CreationDate="2018-12-10T12:41:04.863" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18196" PostId="8718" Score="1" Text="@SeanDuggan - genu recurvatum is a condition of the knee bending backward.  Not backward like a bird's knee, but that it extends further back than normal, giving the appearance that it's buckling.  It's commonly called back knee.&#xA;&#xA;Here's an example: https://i.pinimg.com/736x/dd/5b/ed/dd5bed64a5ca18e2cf759a348ec2ab8f.jpg" CreationDate="2018-12-10T13:42:51.323" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18197" PostId="8718" Score="1" Text="It is not really clear how a buckling (back) knee can occur in a horse stance, so I'm waiting for question clarification to get better idea." CreationDate="2018-12-10T13:44:01.817" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18198" PostId="8718" Score="0" Text="The other possibility is that it's not so much &quot;bending backwards&quot; as &quot;becoming unstable while bent&quot; in a way that feels a bit like a the knee shifting back. I've had that experience once or twice, albeit only in passing and not consistently. If it is that case, I suspect that better exercise/condition will help stabilize the knee, as fatigue was always a factor for me." CreationDate="2018-12-10T13:58:15.273" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18199" PostId="8718" Score="1" Text="Why did we reopen this question? This may not be a medical question, but does anyone understand what is being asked?" CreationDate="2018-12-10T20:43:03.193" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18200" PostId="8718" Score="1" Text="The author was actively participating in improving the question at the time." CreationDate="2018-12-10T22:54:55.833" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18202" PostId="322" Score="0" Text="The reason for the exodus, while irrelevant to the answer, would be very interesting to know." CreationDate="2018-12-14T06:54:38.060" UserId="7526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18203" PostId="7561" Score="1" Text="@IEatBagels I laughed out loud on seeing the title, and that was enough for me." CreationDate="2018-12-14T06:57:23.613" UserId="7526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18204" PostId="6403" Score="0" Text="As someone from Sheffield, who's grown up hearing people wax lyrical on Prince Naseem's prowess but only ever known him as the overweight owner of a takeaway, this was a very enlightening read, and makes a lot of things fall into place. I'll have to look up some of those fights." CreationDate="2018-12-14T07:07:32.123" UserId="7526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18206" PostId="322" Score="0" Text="@Hashim The reason is simple, tedious, and pathetic: ego." CreationDate="2018-12-14T08:35:52.113" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18208" PostId="4401" Score="0" Text="@cameron &quot;...if someone were to escape from pigpile s fighting huge hordes of people in real life then to me.&quot; That is a power only available to The One." CreationDate="2018-12-14T08:52:33.083" UserId="7526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18209" PostId="322" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion But what actually happened? It sounds like it would be very interesting history." CreationDate="2018-12-14T08:55:42.933" UserId="7526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18210" PostId="223" Score="0" Text="Maybe Machiavellianism/libertarianism is the closest thing to a &quot;Shinobi-do&quot;. ;)" CreationDate="2018-12-14T09:03:03.497" UserId="7526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18212" PostId="322" Score="0" Text="@Hashim A google search will provide you with all the drama. *Really, it is not worth your time.*" CreationDate="2018-12-14T09:15:51.923" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18213" PostId="8734" Score="0" Text="Found this on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/bjj/comments/40aney/good_lightweight_belt/" CreationDate="2018-12-14T11:57:11.373" UserId="9690" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18214" PostId="8734" Score="0" Text="Don't you weigh in without a gi?" CreationDate="2018-12-14T12:48:27.483" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18215" PostId="8734" Score="0" Text="Nope, also the weigh-ins are usually on the same day as the matches..." CreationDate="2018-12-14T13:54:23.797" UserId="9690" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18216" PostId="8734" Score="0" Text="Yeah, just put on silk pajamas for the weigh-in and do a quick-change later. Either that or wait for carbon nanotube fabric to become a thing. :)" CreationDate="2018-12-14T17:56:54.313" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18217" PostId="7561" Score="0" Text="@Hashim wow... I did not even realize that my title could be read... I'd wondered at IEatBagels' comment... Sigh." CreationDate="2018-12-14T19:55:29.157" UserId="8320" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18218" PostId="1767" Score="0" Text="This answer is very good and so instead of posting a separate answer, I would just add that it's important that you determine your own goals. People practice martial arts for lots of reasons: exercise, boredom, sport, community, self-defense, discipline, etc... and they are all valid. Many schools that are terrible for achieving some goals can be excellent for others, so try to think of it less as &quot;Good School vs. Bad School&quot; and more &quot;Are our goals aligned?&quot;" CreationDate="2018-12-14T23:19:48.220" UserId="3105" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18219" PostId="8734" Score="0" Text="The uniform that you weigh in with has to be conform to the rules. Finding a lightweight gi is also a thing. But this question is specifically for the belts." CreationDate="2018-12-15T14:58:22.323" UserId="9690" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18220" PostId="8734" Score="0" Text="Aren't weight ins made in underware? Anyway does 200g make such a difference?" CreationDate="2018-12-16T13:04:24.927" UserId="9366" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18221" PostId="8736" Score="0" Text="Does it feel like a lack of flexibility? Lack of power? Lack of control? Does it feel like a physical impingement? Just general advice? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igHNNYIgrmY and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZzAEfRlB_s are two general tutorials I've found." CreationDate="2018-12-16T18:42:38.230" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18222" PostId="8736" Score="0" Text="Well plenty of exercise needed here...." CreationDate="2018-12-16T19:45:29.873" UserId="9366" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18223" PostId="8736" Score="0" Text="^_^ You probably won't need all of them. What problem are you experiencing specifically?" CreationDate="2018-12-16T21:07:14.623" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18224" PostId="8736" Score="0" Text="When you say your hips don't allow...please clarify.&#xA;Is it giving you pain? At which point does the pain happen? During chamber, extension or retraction? Do different levels of yoko geri have different levels of pain?" CreationDate="2018-12-17T05:22:34.633" UserId="8980" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18225" PostId="8736" Score="0" Text="From what I see it's really lack of flexibility" CreationDate="2018-12-17T07:45:13.877" UserId="9366" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18226" PostId="8736" Score="0" Text="*Could you please update the question and write an answer?* Meant for everyone... " CreationDate="2018-12-17T11:42:09.130" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18227" PostId="8736" Score="2" Text="diagnosing a potential hip problem over the internet is tough - try a local Physio - Having had similar issues with side kick I tried Physio and Bowen - the latter working fantastically and I can now kick much higher. (it was not a problem with a kick but with the soft tissues around my joints)" CreationDate="2018-12-17T12:05:19.577" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18228" PostId="8718" Score="0" Text="Late to the party, but if the horse stance is ok, and buckles on the punches, I would suspect that the user is letting their feet rotate with the hip shifts instead of remaining in place (Perhaps in an attempt to put too much power into the punch). Horse stance is a very poor stance to throw powerful, effective punches from. (In fact, other than training or forms, I can't think of any situation where I would even want to *be* in horse stance." CreationDate="2018-12-17T14:54:34.087" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18229" PostId="8734" Score="0" Text="200g that is 2 chocolate bars. :) it's not a big difference but a measurable one" CreationDate="2018-12-17T15:29:24.043" UserId="9690" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18230" PostId="8729" Score="0" Text="As far as I know, both Iko Uwais and Yayan Ruhian are real Silat practitioners. So I guess most of their stunt actions are based on Silat (to a greater extent)" CreationDate="2018-12-18T08:07:36.603" UserId="5496" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18231" PostId="8405" Score="0" Text="If you want to learn and practice methods to actually fight I would avoid this stance period. I started learning TKD in 1969 and use the useful kicks and avoid the old methods that are more primitive and less effective. If you are training because you like the 'art' then you got to deal with it." CreationDate="2018-07-19T19:56:22.277" UserId="9408" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18232" PostId="8405" Score="0" Text="Yes, the &quot;art&quot; side is an important part of TKD, and is required to progress. It is embarrassing for a practitioner to not be able to perform this stance correctly." CreationDate="2018-07-19T20:27:01.137" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18233" PostId="8405" Score="0" Text="How does this answer the given question? (what can be done to improve the posture in ap kubi?). @DanielReis most people will struggle with all moves and stances at least initially as we work on improving some aspect of natural motion, it is nothing to be embarrassed about and having to work to fix something makes it much easier for you to teach in the future." CreationDate="2018-07-20T08:23:09.410" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18236" PostId="5463" Score="0" Text="Interestingly, Tony Ferguson practices wing chun and has successfully implemented techniques at the highest level. However, he is a very well rounded fighter and far from a representative of wing chun." CreationDate="2018-12-20T05:34:33.893" UserId="1707" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18238" PostId="8579" Score="2" Text="I used to do bjj and I do judo now. With full respect what you say applies to judo only.  To my personal experience it does not really apply to bjj. In judo everything is just like you described, occasional scratches happen, that's all. In bjj I came home after literally each and every rolling with multiple blood strains on my gi and never without scratches and abrasions on my hand. Why? I don't know. Maybe I rolled too hard? Maybe it is just the nature of the prolonged bodily contact that is more inherent in newaza as in tachi-waza? I wish if I could know." CreationDate="2018-12-20T09:12:16.963" UserId="9778" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18239" PostId="8579" Score="0" Text="Having said all the things above I do not state that everybody doing bjj will be infected HIV/Hepatitis. I just say I also had some inconvenient thoughts after coming home with a gi which looked like as rag from a slaughterhouse.." CreationDate="2018-12-20T09:17:07.343" UserId="9778" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18240" PostId="8577" Score="0" Text="I also had this kind of thoughts. One thing you can and need to do is get a jab against Hepatitis B. It's the most infectious of all and there is a good vaccination against it. If you were vaccinated against Hep B years ago, then you need to check whether you still have the protection. If not, you need to retake it." CreationDate="2018-12-20T09:29:23.853" UserId="9778" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18242" PostId="8587" Score="1" Text="-1 I need to mention that I don't like the words &quot;sports&quot; or &quot;in athletes&quot;. The question was about bjj. I did bjj myself and I am convinced that there is a strong case to separate ground -based grappling styles form any other sports. I also did kickboxing and never had any worry about getting blood borne infections there. But bjj, (catch-wrestling, etc...) is different. If you roll hard for an extended period you'll literally take a bath in the other guy's body fluids." CreationDate="2018-12-20T09:54:59.110" UserId="9778" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18243" PostId="8587" Score="0" Text="As an illustration how bizarre the whole thing can get: after a good 8-10 minutes rolling I ended up in the upper position mounting the other guy. He repeatedly tried to shook me off. As I struggled to maintain my balance the sweat from my forehead was raining on his face. I am pretty sure that he got 'droplets' to both of his eyes and also to his mouth on that day." CreationDate="2018-12-20T10:22:56.007" UserId="9778" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18245" PostId="8480" Score="0" Text="If you stand it does not work a half-way decent judoka will throw you very quickly. On the ground it does not work either, bjj-people will armbar you." CreationDate="2018-12-20T10:41:59.407" UserId="9778" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18246" PostId="8587" Score="0" Text="What about football, rugby, pankration, and jujitsu?  What about the locker rooms - even after baseball and softball where contact is non-existant?  The point is that any sport is a potential vector.  Equipment can be shared, and fluids can reside on a surface and be passed onto someone else, and that potential is increased by the very nature of sports where injuries and sweat can result.  I stand by my answer; coaches need to be careful that the training areas are safe, no matter the sport." CreationDate="2018-12-20T13:29:44.263" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18247" PostId="8587" Score="0" Text="yes, there is possibility to get any kind of infections anywhere doing any kind of activities if one is not careful enough. Still I think it1s a mistake to generalize the case by talking about football, rugby, pankration or anything else because 1, the OP asked about specifically bjj and 2, (to my prersonal experiance, which might be wrong) no other sporting activity produces as many cuts, abrasions, mat burns, scratches, bleedings, you name it as bjj does.  Maybe wrestling. But even wrestlers wear shoes which protects them from mat burns on their feet." CreationDate="2018-12-20T14:21:21.910" UserId="9778" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18249" PostId="8644" Score="0" Text="&quot;Please tone down the intensity, Bob.&quot; Will it solve the problem? Temporarily yes, but permanently? I don't think so. Do no train with him." CreationDate="2018-12-20T15:30:35.157" UserId="9778" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18250" PostId="4653" Score="0" Text="The human skin can also serve as a 'judogi' it only needs a grip strong enough. A good couple of years ago I was training with a competitive guy who took judo-related strength training to the extreme: each week he climbed the 6 meter rope 60 times using his hands only while he carried some additional weights attached to his belts. I believe person with the grip strength of him can grab the skin of his opponents even in a nudist beach in order to perform any judo throw." CreationDate="2018-12-20T16:54:21.487" UserId="9778" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18251" PostId="8714" Score="1" Text="Thanks man, you were right, after I sparred with a couple of people, I found out that my kicks were actually fine.&#xA;And btw, my coach is actually the best in my town, and in my opinion, the best in the country.He is really a very nice person, and he is very funny, and with his help I actually managed to get better in the martial arts.&#xA;The only problem was that he didn't pay me enough attention in order for me to see what I was doing wrong and right." CreationDate="2018-12-22T08:38:16.753" UserId="9735" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18252" PostId="8714" Score="0" Text="@DarX: In which case, I apologize for disparaging him. I was working off of inadequate data." CreationDate="2018-12-22T13:37:22.893" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18253" PostId="8714" Score="0" Text="You don't have to apologize, after all, you just wanted to give me an advice, which would have been good for me, in most of the possible situations which would be similar to this one, but this was an exception.&#xA;After all, I do belive that he is the best teacher because I saw a big evolution of myself, in martial arts(Kickboxing and Greco-Roman Wrestling), and because my phisique looked much better since I started training at this gym." CreationDate="2018-12-23T17:07:31.217" UserId="9735" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18254" PostId="8746" Score="0" Text="Anecdotal, but it's some input." CreationDate="2018-12-26T13:55:03.393" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18256" PostId="8755" Score="0" Text="Thanks for that answer :). Don’t know why someone downvoted me though." CreationDate="2018-12-27T14:21:20.023" UserId="9784" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18260" PostId="8354" Score="0" Text="another pro is compression. body fitting garments hold your muscle tight as a guard would do. important if you're over 40" CreationDate="2018-12-28T06:49:40.563" UserId="8980" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18261" PostId="8755" Score="1" Text="@DanKhan: Oh well, it's one of those questions most old-timer martial artists get sick of, as it's hard to answer well and can lead to a lot of disagreement.  That doesn't mean it's fair to penalise you for asking.  Consider Andrews answer for example - I'd warn against going so far down the path he suggests - you end up like some ninjutsu or hapkido schools trying to study so much you end up good at nothing at all.  A solid foundation in hand-to-hand fighting is a backbone for more general self defence, and IMHO deserves focus before branching out.  This site's best for less controversial Qs." CreationDate="2018-12-28T09:24:54.423" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18262" PostId="8644" Score="0" Text="Depends on the nature of the problem. It could be any of (a) they desire to be a good partner but don't know what their partners want and need, (b) they don't have the control or attention to consistently do what's asked or required of them, or (c) they defiantly refuse to do what's asked and get joy from being too rough. The solutions are, respectively: (a) tell them exactly what to do and give lots of firm feedback, (b) don't train with them, (c) kick them out of the school. There really are people in category (a), and for them, explicit feedback is a permanent solution." CreationDate="2018-12-28T19:30:21.680" UserId="698" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18263" PostId="8644" Score="0" Text="Your solutions make sense. Still according to my experience people make an honest effort to tone down upon request. However the effect of this will last for a short, limited period only. They gradually will get back to their original roughness soon (i.e. within 2-3 trainings), unless you keep repeating the request which will give you a reputation of being a wimp. Besides repeating this request will cause disharmony.. So I would rather advice weaker beginners to face rough players only if they (the beginners) are a, technically decent b, physically strong. That needs time though." CreationDate="2018-12-30T12:36:24.357" UserId="9778" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18265" PostId="8760" Score="0" Text="In short, no. That only works in the movies. In real life, if someone wants to fight you, they need very little reason to start. Your defiance will invite the fight to happen. So you need to be able to back it up by being ready to fight." CreationDate="2018-12-30T19:36:32.293" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18267" PostId="8758" Score="0" Text="It is not a documentary, though - IMDB says it is an Action Movie." CreationDate="2018-12-31T15:06:36.837" UserId="831" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18268" PostId="8761" Score="0" Text="These are super interesting points you bring up and more closely answer my question. When time will permit, I will do a bit of studying on Shukokai Karate and see what is what. Thanks for contributing!" CreationDate="2018-12-31T17:54:14.313" UserId="9394" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18270" PostId="8760" Score="0" Text="I'm not quite sure what you are asking, but its safe to say that appearance is only loosely correlated with ability to fight." CreationDate="2018-12-31T21:16:57.867" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18272" PostId="2914" Score="0" Text="Late comment on supposed &quot;brain damage&quot;: breakfalls make it so that there is only minor acceleration of the head. Headaches, e.g. after excessive training of morote gari after a long hiatus, are due to neck muscles. That's why it is a throw for advanced (i.e. trained) students and good coaches should be aware that older practitioners or people that had a hiatus should be thrown on soft mats only when neck muscles are involved in breakfalls that much." CreationDate="2019-01-01T12:51:41.653" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18274" PostId="8758" Score="0" Text="It's probably some sort of biopic like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ip_Man_(film) ..." CreationDate="2019-01-02T09:38:32.773" UserId="831" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18276" PostId="8767" Score="0" Text="Do you have evidence to support your answer? What makes you assert that Mayweather (for instance) is healthier than other, similar, boxers?" CreationDate="2019-01-02T11:03:30.263" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18280" PostId="8027" Score="1" Text="Ippon seoi-nage is not executed locking the arm, Uki's arm is rapped tight across Tori's chest going with the elbow joint NOT against it, Tori has there inner elbow joint tight under Uki's armpit.  Uki is rapped tight on Tori  under Uki's armpit and Uki's arm across Tori's chest so Uki's chest is tight on to Tori's back . The original Ippon seoi-nage was a self defence move in Jiu Jitsu from a over head blow not locking the arm. Check out the Kodokan Judo Kata Nage-no-Kata" CreationDate="2019-01-02T12:32:42.167" UserDisplayName="user9785" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18288" PostId="2914" Score="1" Text="Morote-gari wasn't banned when I was competing, and it was one throw used alot by younger people, and I simply *HATED* it. I'm pretty happy it was banned. It was used only so you wouldn't received a penalty for being too passive, and to win time later on in a fight, and as a desperate last try attack. You launch yourself on the leg of your opponent, looking more like a football sack then a judo technique. It failed 99% of the time, and you end on the ground, in a safe position, with the impression you made an 'attack' ... can't say how happy I am for judo as a sport that it was banned." CreationDate="2019-01-02T15:48:42.310" UserId="1526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18289" PostId="2914" Score="0" Text="@ThierrySavardSaucier Thanks for your perspective!" CreationDate="2019-01-02T16:40:49.817" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18290" PostId="240" Score="0" Text="Will one round from a handgun really cause the barrel to heat up enough to, say, blister your hand?" CreationDate="2019-01-02T17:55:38.693" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18291" PostId="8769" Score="0" Text="Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been [moved to chat](https://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/87792/discussion-on-answer-by-parto-which-types-of-throws-can-lift-the-heaviest-weight)." CreationDate="2019-01-03T14:30:01.420" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18293" PostId="8767" Score="0" Text="Hey Mike, not sure how to respond directly, hope this works. Evidence of the gist of my answer: There are plenty of athletes, gyms and perhaps even styles with little regard for athlete's health. While most gyms do parrot the 'good offense has defense built in' cliches, few emphasize or practice this sufficiently.&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;So I'm convinced that a trainer, gym or individual athlete who trains with focus on defense and mobility is helping their health.&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;As for Mayweather, all I know: Very long career with relatively few hits and knockdowns." CreationDate="2019-01-03T18:27:47.613" UserId="9800" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18295" PostId="8517" Score="0" Text="Other grappling arts blend well with Judo: Jiujitsu (Classical &amp; Brazillian), Greco &amp; Catch Wrestling also compliment Judo well. Classical jiujitsu might help bridge the gap into striking more than the others." CreationDate="2019-01-04T17:14:58.780" UserId="9638" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18296" PostId="8734" Score="0" Text="@JorgeCanelhas He's probably doing IBJJF tournaments, a horrific organization known for their overbearing membership policies, belt registrations, absurdly restrictive rule sets, and of course, silly weigh in practices." CreationDate="2019-01-04T20:15:57.190" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18297" PostId="8752" Score="0" Text="MT and Dutch Kickboxing are the two most prominent striking arts in MMA, which is the best possible simulation we have of a real fight. So yes, MT is excellent for striking self defense. Go to BJJ and wrestling class too and you're good to go." CreationDate="2019-01-04T20:21:14.740" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18305" PostId="8785" Score="1" Text="The answer is no. Compared to the rest, I'm pretty weak. I' ve been told that by them than I was not strong. So I should not put too much strength in exercices rather I should focus on technical skills..." CreationDate="2019-01-12T22:29:03.273" UserId="9665" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18306" PostId="8785" Score="4" Text="Okay then, your answer is clear now. You're not a troublemaker. So the intimidation you've been getting is unwarranted, unusual, unfair, and unhealthy. I'd leave if I were you. A teacher that makes fun of you for asking questions about how to do stuff is no teacher. Beginners are going to ask questions. This teacher probably hates the fact that he has to teach beginners. Teaching beginners is beneath him. So take the hint. He doesn't want to teach you. You're better off finding a teacher that does. Tell him so before you leave." CreationDate="2019-01-12T23:03:54.820" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18307" PostId="8785" Score="1" Text="I was thinking about not telling him anything before I leave... Because I feel this behavior is uncalled for. Since it's done on purpose, it'd be another way for him to find a way to make himself important... One answer above said I should speak up anyway...." CreationDate="2019-01-12T23:16:17.563" UserId="9665" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18308" PostId="8785" Score="2" Text="Yeah, I take it back. It's better if you don't invite an argument over it. You owe him nothing. You're fine just moving on. He's going to figure out something is wrong when he's unable to retain new students. If you want, you can anonymously leave a Yelp comment or something for his school. Don't worry about it. Just move on. If you need to give an excuse before canceling your membership, just say you decided you were no longer interested in it, and leave it at that." CreationDate="2019-01-12T23:23:17.007" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18309" PostId="8783" Score="0" Text="I assume you don't have a background in martial arts. Have you considered learning another type of martial art? Build up your confidence in that before returning to judo" CreationDate="2019-01-14T08:08:53.537" UserId="8980" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18310" PostId="8783" Score="2" Text="@KristinaLex Why do you think it's related to confidence ? For what I understand, my lack of movement coordination or sometimes (NOT ALL THE TIME) strength/vivacity during rendori or practice trigger him to act in such a way... Yelling the white belt name all the time, screeming at him at every mistake you notice, asking higher rank (not all the time though) to go hard on him .... Do you think (I'm not being sarcastic or mean here....) lack of confidence can/should trigger such a behavior from a sensei (lol this is not the army nor a job)" CreationDate="2019-01-14T08:45:45.663" UserId="9665" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18311" PostId="8783" Score="1" Text="@KristinaLex - Why should any martial art need to learn another martial art in order to start training? If the teacher is bad, or has a different cultural reference that is not the fault of the poster. Maybe you could help find a solution rather than &quot;go do something else&quot;." CreationDate="2019-01-14T17:56:52.737" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18312" PostId="8783" Score="0" Text="@JohnP Thank you John. At some point I felt like a &quot;hot pain&quot; in the brain; like a 2 second headache and during those two second, a strong feeling of disappointment and willingness to quit rigth away and go home.... But I manage to finish the session and decided later at home it was not work continuing in such an environment. It s sad because I really liked Judo but now I dont have the motivation  to go back to any other school. Maybe it will come back in time" CreationDate="2019-01-15T05:52:37.910" UserId="9665" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18313" PostId="8783" Score="0" Text="@JohnP because it is his own statement. &quot;I know I suck at judo pretty bad&quot;and you say it has broken you. From what I read, it sounds like the sensei (which means all the senpais, by extension) just does not like you. And that is not your fault or your problem (unless you go to another dojo and same thing happens) &#xA;Why force yourself or force them to endure your presence? Remove yourself from negative situations." CreationDate="2019-01-15T09:12:26.347" UserId="8980" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18314" PostId="8783" Score="0" Text="Whether that is true or not (that you suck), try something else. You might find you are good at striking (for example). And the other martial art will give you the practice and foundation so that when you do decide to return to judo, you will find it is easier and more natural." CreationDate="2019-01-15T09:12:55.980" UserId="8980" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18315" PostId="8783" Score="0" Text="**Comments are not for extended discussion: please use chat for that. Comments are for asking clarifications on the question**" CreationDate="2019-01-15T14:32:18.757" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18317" PostId="8790" Score="1" Text="Cobra Kai dojo : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt33OaWaaAo .... Let's not exagerate. It made me laugth though... But in essence, there is a lot of truth in that image. Yelling at people and bullying  are uncalled for, especially during an activity that's suppose to be healthy (for both ,ind and body)....  I don't see vlue in accepting being bullied (thanks God I understood was happened to me) maybe a little be late but better than never...I already quit. I'm sad because I really like the sport. I' going to let my mind heal from the bullying and find another club hopefuly" CreationDate="2019-01-16T22:11:57.493" UserId="9665" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18319" PostId="8794" Score="2" Text="There are numerous articles on Bruce Lee's diet and supplement regimen. Most don't cite their sources, you're right. But the question I have is: Why does it matter? His knowledge came from what others at the time were saying to do, much like how people learn which supplements to take today. Trouble is, most of what they were doing in the 60's and early 70's are outdated and proved to be false. Most of what we know today is junk, too. Bruce Lee's physique was, I dare say, nothing special. Modern methods are probably going to get quicker and better results, because we know more now." CreationDate="2019-01-20T04:02:36.130" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18321" PostId="8795" Score="2" Text="I haven't found anything scientific, and it seems to largely be a Japanese martial arts thing outside of one mention I've seen in Glima (Viking) wrestling, which also does a passive index finger for the same stated reason of providing more wrist flexibility." CreationDate="2019-01-21T14:57:00.490" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18323" PostId="8795" Score="2" Text="@SeanDuggan: my Hapkido subumnim - Jin Ho Kwak in Sydney - taught extending the index finger during sword technique, though of course Hapkido is overwhelmingly derived from Japanese Daitō-ryū Aiki-jūjutsu, so this is more derivative from than contradictory to your statement." CreationDate="2019-01-22T14:15:56.693" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18324" PostId="8787" Score="0" Text="&quot;very tenacious back injury&quot; - you've provided no details of which movements cause you trouble, so it's hard to make a recommendation.  Perhaps you can improve your question?" CreationDate="2019-01-22T14:22:19.270" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18327" PostId="8795" Score="2" Text="Please *write an answer instead of answering in comments*." CreationDate="2019-01-23T12:51:36.643" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18329" PostId="8798" Score="1" Text="Great answer - learnt a lot, thanks.  (Regarding *&quot;a good pianist or guitarist could do this, as they have trained to be able to independently control their ring from the pinky sufficiently&quot;* - in classical guitar we don't pluck with the pinky - it can wobble around if it wants as the other fingers are used, though must be kept off the strings.)" CreationDate="2019-01-23T22:04:02.370" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18330" PostId="8798" Score="0" Text="Thanks.  I used the guitar as an example because my father played guitar and tried to teach me.  He gave me exercises to lay the land on a table and practice to tap a finger on demand.  So I did make the assumption that individual finger control was important.  I could be wrong there, since I never did do much with the instrument.  Similarly, my mother is a pianist, and when I gave up the guitar, she stepped in and tried to teach me piano, and had me do the same exercises.  Alas, I can play neither instrument :-(" CreationDate="2019-01-23T22:25:03.790" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18331" PostId="1213" Score="0" Text="@Rophuine: ...or, they could have been &quot;testing&quot; for a fearful/victim reaction; perhaps replying confidently and angrily with an insult avoided escalation to violence; we'll never know.  If I had to guess, I'd hazard the kids would have left regardless of the reaction - they were going somewhere and wanted to show off to each other on the way.  Regardless, 1) it's better to have situation awareness and make conscious decisions based on circumstances, 2) reactions seen as incendiary risk legal-/social-/self-blame if things do go south from there, 3) the reaction shows loss of self control." CreationDate="2019-01-24T00:13:58.017" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18332" PostId="8800" Score="3" Text="Three possible interpretations of being &quot;on LSD&quot;. First is actually being high on LSD while doing martial arts. Second is doing a micro-dose of LSD while doing martial arts (micro-doses don't cause you to be high). Third is doing LSD outside of martial arts practice, and gaining from whatever it does to reconfigure your brain and central nervous system (you're not high while doing martial arts). Which one are you referring to?" CreationDate="2019-01-24T04:28:05.903" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18333" PostId="8800" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand I guess whichever works best =)" CreationDate="2019-01-24T04:40:25.493" UserId="9518" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18335" PostId="5004" Score="0" Text="you need to trim and then file it down to prevent sharp edges" CreationDate="2019-01-24T06:45:03.827" UserId="8980" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18336" PostId="1418" Score="0" Text="how about kobudo/weapons? as for your inflammation, please wear guards (even if you don't feel you need them) and take boswella serrata supplement (it's a natural painkiller and anti inflammation for joints" CreationDate="2019-01-24T06:54:31.290" UserId="8980" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18338" PostId="8802" Score="0" Text="I wish I could accept more than one answer! Thanks again =)" CreationDate="2019-01-24T10:28:00.947" UserId="9518" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18342" PostId="8800" Score="0" Text="I haven't found any studies, but there are a lot of anecdotes out there." CreationDate="2019-01-24T11:42:53.347" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18345" PostId="8801" Score="1" Text="Why not simply ask the sensei himself, what the actual meaning is?" CreationDate="2019-01-25T06:53:29.003" UserId="700" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18346" PostId="8802" Score="2" Text="&quot;express your inner tiger&quot; is about being angry, it about being confident and aggressive (vs afraid and passive)." CreationDate="2019-01-25T09:55:33.783" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18347" PostId="8801" Score="1" Text="&lt;Pedantic&gt;It's 'sabum', not 'sensei' for TKD&lt;/Pedantic&gt;. A nice, simple question with some (IMHO) good answers!" CreationDate="2019-01-25T10:43:31.997" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18349" PostId="8803" Score="1" Text="Remember, anger is a weapon only to your opponent.  Forgetting this is a good way to get a boot to the head!" CreationDate="2019-01-25T15:39:04.310" UserId="9854" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18350" PostId="8801" Score="2" Text="Tigers are fierce, but they are not *angry* when they hunt and kill, any more than you are angry when you go to the market and get your dinner." CreationDate="2019-01-25T18:33:09.943" UserId="698" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18352" PostId="8813" Score="0" Text="You're putting far more emphasis on kata and forms than what we're learning in the dojo.  Some of the time is spent practicing forms, but the bulk of it is devoted to smaller, more individual techniques.  How to defend against punches, kicks, grabs of various kinds, how to turn the tables if you end up on the ground with an opponent on top of you, how to respond to someone swinging at you with a club, etc.  The training has a lot of &quot;traditional&quot; elements, but it's also very heavy on the practical aspects: *this is what you do if someone is trying to hurt you, this is how to make them stop.*" CreationDate="2019-01-25T20:23:34.797" UserId="9854" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18354" PostId="8724" Score="1" Text="As the tall one in my class, the things that work well against me in sparring tend to be the same things that work well when I use them: 1) be fast, 2) put strong force behind your blows to power through the opponent's guard, and 3) do unexpected things that your opponent isn't anticipating.  My long legs give me a certain degree of advantage, but it doesn't make *that* big of a difference." CreationDate="2019-01-25T20:33:54.823" UserId="9854" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18355" PostId="8801" Score="0" Text="Did they specifically mention anger? &quot;Express your inner tiger&quot; doesn't (necessarily) imply anger, nor savagery." CreationDate="2019-01-25T20:49:34.213" UserId="9857" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18356" PostId="8813" Score="0" Text="@MasonWheeler I just edited my answer to fit your emphasis on drills and away from forms. See if it's any better for you. Thanks!" CreationDate="2019-01-25T22:13:18.360" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18360" PostId="8816" Score="1" Text="Superb answer. Thank you for taking the time to write it." CreationDate="2019-01-28T12:49:01.093" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18361" PostId="240" Score="1" Text="@AmorphousBlob it won't. In fact, having done this (and other Krav Maga gun disarms) with live firearms, I find this answer exaggerated." CreationDate="2019-01-28T21:29:40.310" UserId="9216" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18366" PostId="8782" Score="2" Text="I tried referring my Kenjutsu instructor to this, but he said it's so different from what he practices that he could not comment, and that he feels it's only an Aikido technique." CreationDate="2019-01-30T17:47:31.793" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18367" PostId="8817" Score="1" Text="Welcome to the site. I have changed your title a little to better reflect your question." CreationDate="2019-01-31T09:43:50.447" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18368" PostId="8818" Score="5" Text="Seconding this, I had a student start (in TKD) after a similar length of gap 6 months ago, he started at white belt (10th kup), his movement came back quickly so in his first test we promoted to green belt (6th kup) and in the next we will probably grade to blue (4th kup).&#xA;The belt is supposed to reflect your ability - to allow you to see your progress and to help your instructors teach you. Starting with a high belt will stop both of these benefits" CreationDate="2019-01-31T10:51:22.820" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18369" PostId="8772" Score="0" Text="Just to add to this, weapons are a traditional part of jiu jitsu and aikido.  If the OP  already has substantial training in Japanese martial arts, they might find it easier continuing in Japanese martial arts instead of jumping to a different system.  Or jumping to a different system may show them the limitations of what they already know.  YMMV. :)" CreationDate="2019-01-31T17:59:27.107" UserId="6517" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18370" PostId="8818" Score="0" Text="@Collett89 Just as an alternative voice on this, I had a long break on karate.  My movements came back, so my kata worked well and I got triple-graded first off.  But my timing and focus were crap, so I had a few accidents where I hurt people, then I slowed myself down, and then *I* started getting hurt.  In the end I had to quit because my confidence was shot, and I never got it back.  I can do jiu jitsu and have plenty of fun with a 20-stone guy trying to rip my head off.  But ask me to face off with punches, and I only have a choice between literally try to kill them or panic and freeze." CreationDate="2019-01-31T18:04:16.407" UserId="6517" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18371" PostId="8818" Score="1" Text="@Collett89 ... Just to say that in my case, my instructor pushing me ahead was way  more damaging than letting me progress more slowly and get my feel for it back.  I may have looked great, but I didn't have the basics." CreationDate="2019-01-31T18:06:30.577" UserId="6517" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18372" PostId="8819" Score="1" Text="When I accepted students from other schools, I always permitted them to retain their old rank - after all, it was earned.  However, when I practiced a martial art that was not my native one, I chose to adopt the white belt and moved up the ranks normally." CreationDate="2019-01-31T20:38:51.750" UserId="6599" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18373" PostId="8818" Score="2" Text="@Graham there seems to be two different issues here - if your timing is off on your general movements - that would mean that you aren't performing them correctly and shouldn't have been advanced - the same goes for focus. If this was sparring only (or only apparent here) having a student with powerful movements and not so much control I wouldn't want them battering my beginners - I'd also have my higher grades banned for hurting them. Regardless of what belt they were actually wearing." CreationDate="2019-02-01T08:14:33.177" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18374" PostId="8820" Score="1" Text="I searched in google scholar but I wanted to know specifically if protective gear was enough to not get negative consequences. Thanks for the links, I'll check them out!" CreationDate="2019-02-01T15:35:18.420" UserId="9847" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18375" PostId="8820" Score="0" Text="Ok, rather than address your question in a comment, I updated my answer to include links to studies on helmets and their effectiveness.  In short, no.  They reduce, but they don't eliminate." CreationDate="2019-02-01T15:55:13.203" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18376" PostId="8544" Score="0" Text="Is Yudo distinct in some way from Judo apart from the name? And similarly, is Kumdo distinct from Kendo?" CreationDate="2019-02-01T20:51:03.067" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18377" PostId="8544" Score="0" Text="Actually, no - yudo is nearly identical to judo, and kumdo is nearly identical to kendo.  Politically, it is problematic to confuse the two (hence my change), but technically they're the same.  So much so, that practitioners in each can and do compete in each other's tournaments." CreationDate="2019-02-01T22:01:03.370" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18378" PostId="8544" Score="0" Text="As to kendo / kumdo, the only discernible difference is kendo-ka wear red and white flags; kumdo-in wear blue and white flags.  Kendo-ka tend to be more subtle in movement, whereas kumdo-in tend to be more dynamic.  Judge calls are made (japanese for kendo, korean for kumdo), and cross-competitors are keen to know both language commands." CreationDate="2019-02-01T22:01:16.467" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18379" PostId="8823" Score="3" Text="The way the question is written, the answers are likely to be subjective and opinion-based. If you changed the question to something like &quot;what techniques could be used&quot; and add more context to the question (e.g. assailant is male, 180 cm, 100 kg, holding a pistol), the answers _may_ be less subjective." CreationDate="2019-02-04T13:50:09.223" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18380" PostId="8825" Score="0" Text="Thank you. Yes, I read that as well. But, I was thinking, if we have some other simple solutions like using a bandana over the ears? will it help?" CreationDate="2019-02-04T14:26:50.400" UserId="9885" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18381" PostId="8825" Score="3" Text="@TheApache Will a bandana reduce impacts or rubbing on the ear? I would expect no. How is a preexisting piece of sports equipment not a simple solution?" CreationDate="2019-02-04T15:27:25.003" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18383" PostId="8825" Score="0" Text="@TheApache Cauliflower ear is generally seen as an elite-level preventable ailment. At what level of competitiveness are you? I'm not sure this is something a newbie needs to be concerned about." CreationDate="2019-02-04T16:59:43.840" UserId="5533" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18385" PostId="8825" Score="1" Text="@Matadeleo I knew guys in high school that had cauliflower ear from wrestling by their sophomore year. So, this is not an elite-level issue. Wrestling headgear was the preventative measure." CreationDate="2019-02-04T19:35:40.007" UserId="9888" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18386" PostId="8825" Score="1" Text="Rugby players also get cauliflower ear (normally second row forwards, who get it scrummaging) and many of them wear scrum caps or wrap a bandage around their ears. I don't know of any studies that support it, but scrum caps are generally considered much more effective than a bandage, and I imagine the same would be true for other sports." CreationDate="2019-02-04T19:49:30.443" UserId="9342" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18387" PostId="8823" Score="4" Text="Yeah, this is a hard one to answer. It's just going to invite a lot of responses like, &quot;Well you could do this thing that I like...&quot; It's subjective. Taking away guns from assailants is not something most martial arts teach, and most aren't going to teach it realistically. Even Krav Maga doesn't particularly like the topic and would instead prefer people use guns against guns. Good luck trying to creep up on someone with a gun and use an Aikido-like wrist throw to take him down and disarm him. What if he hears you first? Bang. You're dead. This is highly dependent on the circumstances." CreationDate="2019-02-04T20:16:36.543" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18388" PostId="8827" Score="2" Text="The question asks how to protect your ears - this answer says you should protect your ears, but completely misses the 'how'.&#xA;Most of us are not in a position to mess with our genetics unfortunately." CreationDate="2019-02-05T10:27:07.367" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18389" PostId="8824" Score="0" Text="Related: [*Help for Cauliflower Ear*](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/8448/70)" CreationDate="2019-02-05T10:38:29.880" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18391" PostId="8823" Score="1" Text="This is not really answerable in its current form. You give no information about the actual distances between you, the attacker, the intended victim, the environment, your skill set, etc. As others have said, this will be a lot if &quot;Well, in situation X I'd do Y unless he was Z then I'd do Q...&quot; and so on." CreationDate="2019-02-05T13:47:59.080" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18392" PostId="8827" Score="0" Text="Good point. :)  I thought it was an interesting take on the question. Some people's ears swell up seemingly immediately other don't.  It's relevant as it shows why some people do not get cauliflower ears doing the same thing as others. Many people follow what other do at the gym. &quot;That person wears a bandana and his ears are fine.&quot;" CreationDate="2019-02-05T13:52:21.053" UserId="9889" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18396" PostId="8829" Score="2" Text="Video #1: Unrealistic. Assumes attacker can't see you from the corner of his eye or hear you creeping up. The concept of grabbing a pistol and twisting it to release the hold on the gun is okay. But it doesn't work on a struggling opponent who can simply pull his hand away from you as you go to grab it, which is what will happen in real life. Once that happens, it's easy and quick for him to re-aim it at you and fire. You have not controlled his body and arm. You have deliberately put yourself in danger by trying to creep up and grab his hand from a visible approach." CreationDate="2019-02-05T17:08:30.467" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18397" PostId="8829" Score="2" Text="Video #2: Similar issues as video #1. It assumes you can creep up on someone. It assumes he can't see you out of the corner of his eye as you go to reach for the gun. And you haven't controlled his arm or body, putting you at greater risk if he is able to avoid your grasp, re-aim it at you, and fire. The mechanical concept of twisting the gun in such a way as to cause the guy to release it is fine, however." CreationDate="2019-02-05T17:11:04.807" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18398" PostId="8829" Score="0" Text="I know Krav Maga tries to give you something that works with your instincts and is simple for beginners to remember and do. That's fine. These can work, but with lots of risk. It's just that I think if you want to improve the risk factor, you'll have to come up with a different strategy, and it will require more advanced skill at being able to control someone with grappling. Once you have that control, then you can utilize the main concept of working the gun against the grip of your opponent. My opinion anyway." CreationDate="2019-02-05T17:17:08.523" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18399" PostId="8827" Score="0" Text="This video meanders. I would characterize his position first as being that it's not known why some people get cauliflower ear and some do not, rather than genetics has a large role. The video has an anecdote about a wrestler who does not get cauliflower ear until starting BJJ." CreationDate="2019-02-05T18:46:53.670" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18400" PostId="8827" Score="0" Text="I have seen some people get cauliflower ears doing the same gym work as others who don't.  I don't think Ramsey argues that BJJ, as opposed to strikes, are a problem but that it's not a one size fits all problem." CreationDate="2019-02-05T19:11:49.570" UserId="9889" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18401" PostId="8823" Score="2" Text="Go watch a Steven Seagal movie. I'm sure he has some sweet Aikido wrist lock throws to help you disarm the next terrorist hostage situation you stumble upon. Voted to close for reason: Nonsense." CreationDate="2019-02-05T21:41:50.430" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18402" PostId="8829" Score="2" Text="Both videos are fabulous play fighting that will get you killed in real life." CreationDate="2019-02-06T10:22:38.997" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18403" PostId="8829" Score="0" Text="Why, once you have control of it, would you release the weapon? By all means don't use it, but if you release control there are 2 out of 3 scenarios where it gets used against you again." CreationDate="2019-02-06T13:53:43.940" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18404" PostId="8838" Score="1" Text="Yes - the dreaded double grading fee - a sure fire sign that your instructor is more concerned with money than the art or the students. Sadly too common" CreationDate="2019-02-06T14:57:40.403" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18405" PostId="8838" Score="1" Text="@Collett89: On the flip side of things, I can see where someone might see it as &quot;unfair&quot; to have one student pay $200 in testing fees over the space of 5 belts and another $80. That said, I suspect someone actually concerned with fairness would realize the error if it's discussed with them, particularly if it's pointed out that someone might pay $280 for the same five belts if they failed two tests." CreationDate="2019-02-06T15:03:16.810" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18406" PostId="8838" Score="0" Text="if they want to minimise testing fees they could never grade - train for a few years - and then take the black belt straight off.&#xA;as that $200 would be spread over 1 - 2 years typically it wouldn't compare to the training fees anyway.  But being charged that amount in ~6 months - could nearly double the outlay (and as you suggest in your answer - is just lining the instructors pockets).&#xA;I have had a parent question why I only charged them a single grading fee for a double grading suggesting people can and do get away with that behaviour" CreationDate="2019-02-06T15:16:35.220" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18407" PostId="8823" Score="1" Text="If the question were changed to &quot;what are ways Krav Maga teaches [for this scenario]&quot;, rather than what's the best way, it would be a lot less subjective.  Avi's answer provides two videos that show Krav Maga techniques for the scenario, it's just arguable whether they're the &quot;best&quot;.  Getting a list of options and critiques (pros and cons) is more productive than asking for an outright &quot;best&quot;." CreationDate="2019-02-08T02:52:42.173" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18408" PostId="8829" Score="1" Text="To some extent, I don't think it matters what we think of the techniques shown in the videos - Avi has shown two Krav Maga instructors illustrating very similar technique - it's useful to have the technique listed in an answer.  The question is tagged Krav Maga, which I'd take as lessening the relevance of how other martial arts might improve on Krav Maga's approach." CreationDate="2019-02-08T02:56:08.743" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18409" PostId="6403" Score="1" Text="Anderson Silva? Same style of showmanship I'd guess until he got too cocky" CreationDate="2019-02-08T07:57:39.850" UserId="8980" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18413" PostId="8842" Score="0" Text="Possible duplicate of [Old student looking for a new style](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/7808/old-student-looking-for-a-new-style)" CreationDate="2019-02-08T15:17:37.523" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18416" PostId="8842" Score="1" Text="I refrained from placing a close vote since one question is about a bad lower back and this one is about vertigo." CreationDate="2019-02-08T16:38:47.670" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18417" PostId="8846" Score="0" Text="*&quot;some falling involved&quot; - quite a bit of rolling too (mostly forward rolls though), but as you say not normally too violently...." CreationDate="2019-02-09T07:30:31.000" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18418" PostId="8846" Score="0" Text="Correct but it's very &quot;controlled&quot;. Before our training there's an aikido training. It's really beautiful to spectate and for as far as I can see it's more technical than violent..." CreationDate="2019-02-09T12:32:01.267" UserId="9901" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18419" PostId="8848" Score="0" Text="Duct tape, Plastidip, Liquid Vinyl, Liquid Electrical Tape. All of these are things you could try. But since I don't have experience repairing chest protectors, I can't say which is best." CreationDate="2019-02-11T01:02:56.477" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18420" PostId="8848" Score="0" Text="Personally, given how foam degrades even in the best circumstances, I'd opt for replacing a chest protector from &quot;years ago&quot; that has outer layer compromises." CreationDate="2019-02-11T16:14:00.190" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18421" PostId="8812" Score="0" Text="What style is this?  Is it WSKO Shorinji Kempo?  or something else?" CreationDate="2019-02-12T12:42:34.047" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18422" PostId="8852" Score="2" Text="On pushups, [stslavik has an excellent answer about why push ups are not very helpful for punching.](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/444/5961)." CreationDate="2019-02-12T15:57:51.383" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18423" PostId="8852" Score="1" Text="What are you trying to strengthen in your legs? There are MANY exercises for legs." CreationDate="2019-02-12T15:58:40.727" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18424" PostId="8853" Score="1" Text="Great answer =) let me research on methods you mentioned. Thanks!" CreationDate="2019-02-12T18:00:39.803" UserId="9518" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18426" PostId="8856" Score="0" Text="Thank you for your suggestion. I will try that. I just wanted to know if some exercises done in a wrong way could lead to this." CreationDate="2019-02-13T08:26:51.900" UserId="9709" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18427" PostId="8857" Score="3" Text="This is impossible to answer - whilst 1 school of a martial art might be perfect - another school of the same art may do things differently (and what people want/expect from a martial art differs massively too). Find all the schools in your area and budget - request a trial lesson INFORMING THEM OF YOUR CONDITION. Go and try them - see what works for you and that you enjoy - instructor is more important than art." CreationDate="2019-02-13T09:18:22.457" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18428" PostId="8857" Score="1" Text="Possible duplicate of [What martial art should I start with?](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/466/what-martial-art-should-i-start-with)" CreationDate="2019-02-13T09:19:15.763" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18429" PostId="8856" Score="5" Text="@Sardathrion - please don't refer people to other sites by yourself; it's best to flag the Q for mod attention and share your idea with them so that they can decide whether the Q should be migrated. Dupe questions across SE sites are discouraged in general. Plus, it has cost me quite some time to trace the source back here. FYI - self-help questions are offtopic on many sites, including Psych&amp;Neurosci. They're a serious problem and referring such questions to scientific stacks doesn't help." CreationDate="2019-02-13T10:13:04.603" UserId="6264" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18430" PostId="8856" Score="0" Text="I’m sorry if I duplicated it. Let me know if I should myself erase the question in either one of the website." CreationDate="2019-02-13T10:14:08.963" UserId="9709" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18431" PostId="8856" Score="0" Text="@NeeratheWildMage no worries, mate. I'll take care of it :)" CreationDate="2019-02-13T10:14:28.037" UserId="6264" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18432" PostId="8856" Score="1" Text="@AliceD My sincere apologies for causing you trouble and thank you for your clear explanation." CreationDate="2019-02-13T10:54:11.373" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18433" PostId="8856" Score="2" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it has nothing to do with martial arts." CreationDate="2019-02-13T10:54:28.080" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18435" PostId="8856" Score="2" Text="Having a killer instinct and some kind of lust for violence isn't uncommon. It sounds like you need a more physical martial art. Check out your local MMA gym. Do some kick boxing, jiu jitsu, wrestling, whatever else they offer." CreationDate="2019-02-13T15:30:59.790" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18436" PostId="8857" Score="1" Text="You probably want to stick with low mobility, no/low kick martial arts. For example, Wing Chun kung-fu or Southern Praying Mantis kung-fu. Maybe also Filipino martial arts (escrima / kali)." CreationDate="2019-02-13T15:41:16.247" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18437" PostId="8856" Score="0" Text="@coinbird thank you! I was trying to avoid too much combat because I’m a classical musician and should try not to hurt my hands and wrists and arms." CreationDate="2019-02-13T18:47:31.767" UserId="9709" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18438" PostId="8858" Score="0" Text="Thank you! Where can I learn more about “meridians”, “energy”, their blockage, “katas”... all these terms are quite unfamiliar to me. Thank you." CreationDate="2019-02-13T18:49:05.973" UserId="9709" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18439" PostId="8856" Score="0" Text="@NeeratheWildMage That's fine. If you're striking you can wrap your hands. Or do what the pros do, and just control your power and work on technique instead. If you're grappling, your hands will be fine!" CreationDate="2019-02-13T20:06:04.890" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18440" PostId="8856" Score="1" Text="Agree with coinbird. It's psychological and physiological. You're envisioning a lot of violent things going on during your training, or your subconscious is at least. Then after training, you're just excited (adrenal glands) and happy (dopamine from social interaction). This stimulated mental and physiological state combines with what you were envisioning, and suddenly you feel like kicking ass. This is not uncommon in martial arts of all kinds. Work it off. Go running. Punch a punching bag for a while. Etc. You'll come down from the &quot;high&quot; quicker that way. My opinion." CreationDate="2019-02-13T22:14:51.903" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18441" PostId="8856" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand thank you for this most precise report. The training is late in the evening, and I feel that is also something that is unbalancing me. Can’t get to sleep until 5hrs after the end of training, and this throws away my day!" CreationDate="2019-02-13T23:09:31.047" UserId="9709" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18442" PostId="8856" Score="1" Text="@NeeratheWildMage Yup. That sounds about right! You get really stimulated, and it keeps you awake for hours afterwards. That's normal. Happens to me, too (without the need to kick ass, though, haha). You can try burning yourself out with very high intensity exercise for 20 minutes after class. That might work. Try also drinking some calming tea and have a relaxing ritual to perform. If it can't be helped, then you might consider switching to morning classes if possible." CreationDate="2019-02-13T23:14:54.377" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18443" PostId="8856" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand I’ll try that! Thank you so much for your support!" CreationDate="2019-02-13T23:48:29.053" UserId="9709" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18444" PostId="8857" Score="1" Text="@Collett89&#xA;Ty&#xA;&#xA;That makes sense , will look around in my city." CreationDate="2019-02-14T07:56:32.077" UserId="9911" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18445" PostId="8858" Score="0" Text="*Meanwhile, in the real world magic does not exist.* I get that there is a lot of mysticism in martial arts due to many reasons some even valid ones.. However, most of them have been debunked as nothing but mumbo-jumbo. We do not advocate bleeding to rebalance ones humours either. Advocating SCAM treatments for imaginary ailments is counter productive." CreationDate="2019-02-14T08:10:31.900" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18447" PostId="8860" Score="0" Text="My training is predominantly in unarmed combat, so I don't feel qualified to give an answer, but FWIW what he suggests seems very reasonable to me: getting the head deep into the crook of the elbow should prevent the knife being drawn across the neck.  More generally, if you care about this stuff, you'd be better off learning several arts that specialise in it, rather than always asking on here if the krav-maga techniques are good.  In other words, why not take up escrima, kali, silat etc. as well?" CreationDate="2019-02-14T11:16:40.437" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18448" PostId="8858" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion: As the old joke about psychology goes, if it's all in your head, imaginary treatments work just fine." CreationDate="2019-02-14T13:27:42.033" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18449" PostId="8858" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan However, imaginary treatments are then used for real ailments causing great harm from antiavxers to homeopathy treatments for Ebola via drink-cow-urine and near the eradication of rhinos for Chinese medicine…" CreationDate="2019-02-14T13:50:55.207" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18450" PostId="8858" Score="0" Text="@sardathrion: Context is key indeed." CreationDate="2019-02-14T13:52:57.363" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18451" PostId="8861" Score="2" Text="I like this - I have trained for years and still wouldn't like to take on a knife - watch some videos do a little bit of practice and be safe? never going to happen - and I wouldn't want people to feel that way - the consequences of getting this wrong are life changing/ending." CreationDate="2019-02-14T15:04:18.753" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18452" PostId="8861" Score="1" Text="@Collett89 - Yes. The one guarantee is that if you have to defend against anyone that even remotely knows how to use a knife, you **will get cut**. How bad? Dunno, but it will happen." CreationDate="2019-02-14T16:04:28.167" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18453" PostId="8856" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion Done!" CreationDate="2019-02-14T17:37:33.643" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18454" PostId="8862" Score="0" Text="Thank you Steve. I really appreciate your most precise analysis. I guess I connect some negative aspect of group lessons with some events in my past. Also, this feeling started when we stopped doing aerobic preparatory work in the class. I will try to implement it back starting next class!" CreationDate="2019-02-14T19:00:43.043" UserId="9709" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18456" PostId="8861" Score="2" Text="Best way to test knife defense still is with a shock knife and a merciless attacker without you knowing who attacks when. This way you realise how realistic all these videos are... If someone has a knife, just give him whatever he wants. If it's your life anyway, some techniques may help. But third parties? Really?" CreationDate="2019-02-15T00:24:29.497" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18457" PostId="8856" Score="1" Text="@SteveWeigand Upvoted. Enjoy your 10 fake internet points! ☺" CreationDate="2019-02-15T08:22:19.467" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18458" PostId="8860" Score="0" Text="Pedro Sauer has many BJJ based knife defense techniques. They're worth looking into if you're interested in that kind of thing. But you should know the best knife defense is running away. You WILL get stabbed." CreationDate="2019-02-15T16:47:53.350" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18459" PostId="8860" Score="0" Text="Thanks @coinbird , Can you tell me where can I find it?" CreationDate="2019-02-16T16:49:28.583" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18460" PostId="8863" Score="0" Text="Thank you! Your point is really interesting and one part of me really feels that something has changed in the training as of late. We do much less ‘aerobic’ and ‘single’ work and much more ‘couple’ exercises. This makes me feel very bad because it brings two entities who are starting to liberate their energies into conflict. I always try to associate with a more expert partner but that is not always possible. Unfortunately I do not see this changing in the long term so I may either talk w/the trainer about this or just quit and change activity." CreationDate="2019-02-16T17:12:51.470" UserId="9709" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18461" PostId="8863" Score="0" Text="Moreover: my body is at present in a poor state. Classical musician, 25+ years of sitting on a chair practicing 4+ hrs on average per day. Music Engraver, 15 last years with 4+ extra hrs sit on a chair in front of a monitor. Definitely not enough physical exercise. A disastrous family situation that is most probably the root of the negative energy. So yeah, I will try to insist with the training and talk to the master about it. Thank you once more." CreationDate="2019-02-16T17:18:48.077" UserId="9709" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18462" PostId="8865" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site. Thank you very much for taking the time to answer older questions." CreationDate="2019-02-18T08:04:37.680" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18463" PostId="8819" Score="2" Text="Also, dropping back to white-belt could help OP to pace themselves - I have lost count of the number of students I've had return after a break of even just 6 months or a year, who forget that they are no longer in the same shape they were, and try to train as though they never left.  Throwing kicks they can no longer quite reach, powering through kihon and kata they don't have the stamina for, ignoring advice to &quot;take it easy&quot; or &quot;ease into it&quot; until that first twinge forces them to pause and take stock." CreationDate="2019-02-19T09:00:44.213" UserId="9212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18464" PostId="8187" Score="0" Text="Thank you so much!&#xA;And I apologize for the mistake I have made: of course I meant the left leg, not the foot.&#xA;It's not easy to think how to explain best in a foreign language... but this is not an excuse, of course :-)" CreationDate="2019-02-19T07:43:19.910" UserId="9916" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18465" PostId="8860" Score="0" Text="@Avi Probably part of some DVD series for sale. Though most of it is on youtube and whatever for free. I'm lucky enough to train with him in person so I've never had to use the videos." CreationDate="2019-02-19T15:47:37.680" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18466" PostId="8875" Score="0" Text="Once someone posts an answer you believe correct, you can accept it by clicking on the checkmark by the voting buttons." CreationDate="2019-02-19T21:23:27.770" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18467" PostId="8840" Score="0" Text="I don't know that I'd want to get high before sparring, but CBD oil is non-psychoactive is a strong anti-inflammatory &amp; does wonders for pain-relief &amp; recovery. Plus it's a lot easier on the stomach than OTC painkillers." CreationDate="2019-02-20T06:54:18.407" UserId="9638" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18468" PostId="8880" Score="0" Text="Pro Wrestling, too, at that." CreationDate="2019-02-20T12:22:50.900" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18469" PostId="8880" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan I might be wrong here but I do not think pro wrestling allow back flip kicks…" CreationDate="2019-02-20T13:28:05.587" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18470" PostId="8880" Score="0" Text="I've seen a number of high-flyers do it. Yes, it's choreographed, but honestly, no one does a backflip kick in Capoeira expecting to connect either. :)" CreationDate="2019-02-20T13:40:51.537" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18471" PostId="8880" Score="1" Text="It's martial arts tricking, basically. It's a front kick with a back flip finish. It's an intermediate level trick, and isn't really &quot;from&quot; any martial art in particular." CreationDate="2019-02-20T13:53:05.423" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18472" PostId="8881" Score="1" Text="Welcome to the site. I edited your question a little, mostly for formatting. However, I think your question might be [already answered](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/745/82). Could you edit your question as to why this is not a duplicate?" CreationDate="2019-02-20T15:11:01.103" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18474" PostId="8864" Score="1" Text="+1 for &quot;with time you will be able to.....&quot; - We all (myself included) need to remember that training is a process, and that we can only work from where we are, not where we want to be." CreationDate="2019-02-20T15:36:43.833" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18475" PostId="8881" Score="0" Text="Your best bet is to video the kick and post that (or a link to it) - the lack of power is probably coming from poor form - first guess would be lack of rotation in the standing foot/leg. But it could be to do with the hips or core (or you are kicking beyond your current max stretch and that is causing the kick to be off form).&#xA;Precision - nothing helps more for this than practice - put a target on a bag and aim at that. tell yourself off if you are hitting with the toes (put $1 in a swear jar etc.)" CreationDate="2019-02-20T15:42:30.267" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18476" PostId="8840" Score="2" Text="@admcfajn - Yes, I know martial artists who use CBD oil. But this discussion is about getting high before/while sparring, which is entirely different. Which I think is stupid." CreationDate="2019-02-20T17:44:14.493" UserId="7848" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18478" PostId="8776" Score="0" Text="You mention Japanese JiuJitsu, if you could find a gym that does both JJJ &amp; BJJ that might be a good fit. I understand you don't want to go full-boar ground fighting, but it's pretty awesome. Judo is pretty awesome as well." CreationDate="2019-02-21T08:06:27.893" UserId="9638" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18479" PostId="8698" Score="1" Text="I think your edited comment is fine. For every thing, there is a season." CreationDate="2019-02-21T10:54:01.107" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18484" PostId="7382" Score="0" Text="To add to the mix, it appears after doing a little more research that what I was taught didn't come from the jujutsu ryu I study, but from taijutsu which my teacher also studied.  In the Takamatsuden it's called, Koppoken." CreationDate="2019-02-22T05:46:27.517" UserId="8129" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18486" PostId="8886" Score="1" Text="this is a very tricky area without long and expensive studies. As for pulling punches - practice practice practice - its not about punching slower, its about knowing your distance - being relaxed just allows you to move faster" CreationDate="2019-02-22T15:03:24.350" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18488" PostId="8886" Score="1" Text="No Andrew - those questions refer to CTE in martial arts. I am very engaged with that question - but here i am asking very specifically about using unclenched fists in sparring... how safe it is for the strikers hands and how helpful it may be to reduce trauma.  I don't want the thread to get sidetracked on other CTE issues about head gear / how frequent it is etc." CreationDate="2019-02-22T16:14:35.540" UserId="9340" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18490" PostId="8887" Score="0" Text="Thanks, great comment.&#xA;&#xA;I know i have a lot of work to do on pulling my punches better - this will come with experience.  &#xA;&#xA;I am specifically wondering here if adopting an unclenched fist policy for light sparring will be safe for my hands and safer for my opponents." CreationDate="2019-02-22T16:43:30.780" UserId="9340" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18491" PostId="8887" Score="1" Text="Not clinching your fist in light sparring practice is actually pretty common in boxing and MMA. The gloves they use protect your hands enough without having to form a solid fist. There's not a lot of examples where boxers didn't clinch their fists when they needed to in a real fight, so it's hard to argue this creates a bad habit. On the contrary, it allows you to practice more safely. You and your partner get injured less, so you have more time to train. This is actually a big concern in MMA, where going heavy used to be standard practice. People got worse, so now the tide is turning on that." CreationDate="2019-02-22T19:10:23.090" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18492" PostId="8886" Score="0" Text="Ok, fair enough, comment deleted." CreationDate="2019-02-22T20:20:58.270" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18493" PostId="8889" Score="1" Text="No, none that I can think of. Maybe you can invent one. :)" CreationDate="2019-02-26T20:12:15.777" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18495" PostId="8889" Score="1" Text="Welcome to the site. What exactly is the purpose of your question?" CreationDate="2019-02-26T23:39:36.810" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18496" PostId="8889" Score="0" Text="@slugster pure interests if having double-jointed abilities could increase performance or give a mechanical advantage in martial arts?" CreationDate="2019-02-26T23:45:09.677" UserId="9934" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18497" PostId="8874" Score="0" Text="Great answer, especially the advice about a target date on the calendar!" CreationDate="2019-02-27T10:03:59.277" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18498" PostId="8892" Score="3" Text="Absolutely this:  We have students who started training for the first time in their 40s.  The important thing is to build up slowly, and manage your expectations - do not expect miracles overnight.  But *do* consider taking a video of your flexibility and technique after you've your first couple of lessons, then another after 3 or 6 months to compare - you will probably be surprised by how much you have improved." CreationDate="2019-02-27T11:29:12.877" UserId="9212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18499" PostId="8892" Score="1" Text="Thank you both for your comments and replies! Will start this summer for sure! &lt;3" CreationDate="2019-02-27T13:17:17.247" UserId="9937" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18502" PostId="8892" Score="2" Text="You are never too old to start with Karate: https://www.yakimaherald.com/news/watch--year-old-sensei-passion-for-karate/html_1fee720e-27fa-11e9-9aee-7f1c0b09a50b.html" CreationDate="2019-02-27T16:19:21.940" UserId="7346" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18504" PostId="8892" Score="4" Text="@Chronocidal 40s? At my (TKD) school, we have a student who started in his 70s!" CreationDate="2019-02-27T16:33:33.433" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18505" PostId="8891" Score="0" Text="Keep in mind Cobra Kai karate does not exist. Most karate styles don't do things like you see in the Cobra Kai TV series. Sorry. The closest thing is MMA. You could maybe look into American Kenpo Karate as well (Ed Parker style). Or Chinese Kempo. I recommend looking around near you to see what different schools teach. And look stuff up on the web. Good luck!" CreationDate="2019-02-27T16:49:49.023" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18506" PostId="8891" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand thanks for the heads up. I heard that some schools in America tried to override the fame of the movies way back Karate Kid, and used it. Cobra Kai Jiu Jitsu if I am not mistaken. I was thinking of Shotokan Karate or yes, Kenpo Karate and how they differ. I thought, is there a style of Karate that is best for self defense and street fight together? Kyokushin, maybe?" CreationDate="2019-02-27T17:20:19.880" UserId="9937" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18507" PostId="8891" Score="0" Text="What do you want? Karate or practical self-defense? Does the style matter or the goal?" CreationDate="2019-02-27T17:24:11.977" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18508" PostId="8891" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand the goal. There's MMA around here as well, but as far as I know every one who joins I think have to sign a waiver or something that they will join a tournament of some sort. I dunno if I am right about this though. I just want to train for those two purposes anyway. I've been eyeing Karate for awhile because it's quite the popular ones here with a lot of dojos." CreationDate="2019-02-27T17:28:40.283" UserId="9937" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18509" PostId="4528" Score="0" Text="if i dont have martial arts experience will they still train me?" CreationDate="2019-02-27T15:58:21.110" UserId="9939" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18510" PostId="4528" Score="0" Text="If you have a new question, please ask it by clicking the [Ask Question](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/ask) button. Include a link to this question if it helps provide context. - [From Review](/review/low-quality-posts/5857)" CreationDate="2019-02-27T16:20:20.270" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18511" PostId="4528" Score="0" Text="@BenitoDeVrieze - See Mike P's statement." CreationDate="2019-02-27T17:37:22.933" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18512" PostId="8894" Score="0" Text="While I do not dispute anything said in this answer I would like to add that in Danzanryu it can be very dojo specific. There are DZR dojos that practice sparring, and there are some that compete in judo tournaments. If all your dojo is doing is kata then yes you will be ill prepared for a real situation. It may also be that they do not stray from kata until a higher rank so take a look at what the brown+ classes are doing and see if their training allows for &quot;constructive resistance&quot;." CreationDate="2019-02-27T20:30:04.513" UserId="7825" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18513" PostId="8894" Score="0" Text="Yeah, if they're training with live, resisting opponents who are in no way compliant, then that's very different. Most of the time when I've observed and trained in classical jujitsu, they believed they were practicing with resistance and non-compliance. In actuality, what they tended to do was to resist their partner applying a standing-arm-bar until their partner struck them in their floating ribs, for example, and then they let them complete the arm-bar. But that's them letting that happen. That's not the same as what BJJ and Judo do." CreationDate="2019-02-27T20:38:53.710" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18514" PostId="8889" Score="2" Text="There are many myths about double jointedness - including whether or not it is a thing.  Please describe what you mean by the term." CreationDate="2019-02-27T21:57:49.940" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18515" PostId="8891" Score="0" Text="If you want self-defense, karate is totally wrong for you. The self-defense knowledge is gone. Please read my answer here: https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/7006/why-is-more-time-dedicated-to-exercises-and-very-less-for-sparring-is-it-for-th/7007#7007" CreationDate="2019-02-27T22:04:10.500" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18516" PostId="8891" Score="0" Text="MMA is probably the wrong thing to jump right into. It's pretty hard core, and most people aren't ready for the way they train from day one. You should consider doing BJJ or submission wrestling instead. Also take some muay thai classes when you can add them to your BJJ. Finally, go into MMA. That approach is more gradual and gentle. Don't worry about doing competitions. Generally, you don't need to do those in MMA or BJJ. Don't worry about signing a waiver, because even karate schools have you do that. They all do." CreationDate="2019-02-27T22:08:36.370" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18518" PostId="8892" Score="1" Text="@Xelza Why start in the summer? Start now. [Just do it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXsQAXx_ao0)." CreationDate="2019-02-28T10:15:19.773" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18519" PostId="8896" Score="1" Text="Good answer. I will point out that hyper mobility versus &quot;ultra&quot; flexibility is a matter of degree. I would say the average person's joint mobility (shoulders, hips, back) should be improved for martial arts but not to the point of contortion." CreationDate="2019-03-01T16:33:23.613" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18520" PostId="8897" Score="0" Text="How can I make this question better?" CreationDate="2019-03-01T16:47:00.423" UserId="9934" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18521" PostId="8897" Score="0" Text="Updated the question. Have you seen the video?" CreationDate="2019-03-01T16:54:10.383" UserId="9934" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18522" PostId="8897" Score="1" Text="@Muze I think Andrew Jennings has already improved this question substantially by helping to clarify what you mean by double-jointed, and by you providing concrete examples." CreationDate="2019-03-01T18:34:14.397" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18523" PostId="8897" Score="1" Text="@Muze I watched some of the video. The guy has exceptional flexibility, but his elbows are still hinge joints." CreationDate="2019-03-01T18:48:24.017" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18524" PostId="8200" Score="0" Text="Just use bong sao to deflect the car :D" CreationDate="2019-03-02T12:45:44.353" UserId="1302" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18525" PostId="8898" Score="0" Text="Thank you. This is a lot of what I wanted to contribute, but I pushed the first person experience. Complicating things is that media such as comics and films happily create fake martial arts based on conditions like this. Just look at Ragdoll or some versions of Scarecrow." CreationDate="2019-03-02T17:38:43.080" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18526" PostId="8794" Score="0" Text="That could be, but still, everyone applies their inputs applicable with their current understanding of things. I thought maybe Bruce also applied some of his original things into his methods. And about today's info, its mostly garbage. There's too many things and majority seems true but in reality is false. Just saying. Peace!" CreationDate="2019-03-04T10:24:40.473" UserId="9387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18528" PostId="8900" Score="0" Text="Jon Jones is 6'4&quot; and the greatest fighter in the entire world, and possibly of all time. You're fine." CreationDate="2019-03-05T20:39:24.927" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18529" PostId="8902" Score="0" Text="+1 [Shuyin ‘Beautiful Giraffe’ Zheng](http://www.worldtaekwondo.org/shuyin-beautiful-giraffe-zheng/) is a top class chinese TKD athlete, and uses her height as an advantage. She is 1,88m tall, 75 Kg." CreationDate="2019-03-06T09:53:20.823" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18530" PostId="8905" Score="1" Text="Can you provide references for those claims? Where is the evidence of those &quot;two scientifically proven facts&quot;?" CreationDate="2019-03-06T13:36:02.770" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18531" PostId="8905" Score="0" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it invites discussions and it cannot be answered in its current form." CreationDate="2019-03-06T13:37:13.837" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18532" PostId="8905" Score="1" Text="If this is true, it's more likely that if participants have headgear, it might make them feel they can go as hard as they want without hurting the other person. Without headgear, there is an implicit understanding that contact should be lighter. It behooves both participants to go easier. If one goes heavy, the other one does as well. Amateur bouts are more about point scoring, and professional bouts motivate people to go for the KO (with publicity and therefore money). Amateur bouts without headgear are there for demonstrating skill rather than just KO'ing opponents." CreationDate="2019-03-06T16:15:11.373" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18533" PostId="8905" Score="0" Text="When you get hit more often without being knocked out or showing obvious signs of disorientation because there is some amount of cushion, this means that your risk of concussion and permanent brain damage is higher since the fight goes on. This seems quite intuitive to me. Of course, higher torque because of leverage and additional weight of your head that has to be compensated for with neck muscles may play an additional role, but only seems to be half of the story." CreationDate="2019-03-07T11:05:50.407" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18534" PostId="6053" Score="0" Text="Anecdotal evidence - I was listening to an instructor in a classroom setting recently, and I leaned my neck on the heel of my hand. Evidently I occluded the carotid artery, and within about 6 seconds I saw spots, blurred vision, and lost all focus. No LOC, but I didn't occlude both sides. Very weird experience." CreationDate="2019-03-08T14:20:35.220" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18535" PostId="8905" Score="0" Text="@sardathion a quick Google search shows that both facts are in fact true" CreationDate="2019-03-09T19:21:21.493" UserId="9949" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18536" PostId="8907" Score="0" Text="Thank you, so iiuc you're saying it's bullet point #2" CreationDate="2019-03-09T19:24:20.440" UserId="9949" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18537" PostId="8905" Score="1" Text="@pete If it is so easy to find the fact is true, then provide a link to a source that explains how/why." CreationDate="2019-03-09T19:41:44.090" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18538" PostId="8912" Score="1" Text="And good luck on your shodan grading. Jeez I am glad this question is three years old so no one sees that" CreationDate="2019-03-11T05:44:14.630" UserId="9956" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18539" PostId="8912" Score="2" Text="^_^ Although, responding to it put it right back up at the top." CreationDate="2019-03-11T11:34:01.510" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18540" PostId="8914" Score="2" Text="Why are Sifu Kevin Seaman's books or Sifu Lamar Davis' books better than a reference manual?" CreationDate="2019-03-12T08:05:13.073" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18542" PostId="8918" Score="2" Text="The last paragraph invites discussion which we do not do -- see [help], [tour]. Otherwise, it is a good question." CreationDate="2019-03-13T13:29:37.143" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18543" PostId="8918" Score="0" Text="I understand, so I abbreviated the 3. paragraph. The primarily sources refering to the example quoted in the 2. paragraph are quoted by Millingen. If you can give other similar examples I would appreciate it..." CreationDate="2019-03-13T13:41:23.167" UserId="9961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18544" PostId="8918" Score="1" Text="Sounds like you've been watching a lot of movies." CreationDate="2019-03-13T14:10:02.603" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18545" PostId="8918" Score="0" Text="The duel between the Lord B and the Duke mentioned above is referred in the book: &quot;Memoir of his own Life&quot; by Roger Lamb, Dublin 1811, pp. 54-56,  https://books.google.pl/books?id=oMQEAAAAYAAJ" CreationDate="2019-03-14T13:05:05.073" UserId="9961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18546" PostId="8918" Score="0" Text="R. Lamb quoted the relation of R. Deerhurst, the Duke's second" CreationDate="2019-03-14T13:22:44.357" UserId="9961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18547" PostId="8915" Score="0" Text="The Dantian is also the physical centre of mass of a human.  It moves with your posture." CreationDate="2019-03-14T16:19:14.993" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18548" PostId="8922" Score="1" Text="Korean martial arts (e.g. Taekwondo and Tang Soo Do) feature a shout called a &quot;ki'hap&quot;  (&quot;Ki&quot; meaning &quot;energy&quot;, &quot;hap&quot; meaning &quot;to join&quot;, &quot;to harmonise&quot;, or &quot;to amplify&quot; - which overlaps with the Japanese word &quot;ai&quot; meaning &quot;joining&quot;), so saying that *&quot;Kiai on a basic level is yelling when punching in karate and karate only&quot;* is patently false." CreationDate="2019-03-14T16:46:15.597" UserId="9212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18549" PostId="8922" Score="0" Text="What korean martial art uses the term kiai? For ki to overlap is a western fore drawn conclusion. No korean would ever say&quot;kiai&quot; or use that tem because in Korean &quot;kiai&quot; means &quot;ouch&quot;." CreationDate="2019-03-15T04:17:33.480" UserId="9963" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18550" PostId="8922" Score="1" Text="As I said, Korean martial arts use the term &quot;ki'hap&quot; for the same phenomenon.  If you're now trying to say that doesn't count because the name they use is different, then that contradicts your comment about swinging a tennis racket.  (But, judo, aikido, kendo, Okinawan kobudō or even Taiko drumming all use kiai anyway)" CreationDate="2019-03-15T07:07:42.010" UserId="9212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18551" PostId="8924" Score="0" Text="I don't know that I agree with everything you say, but I appreciate the breadth of the answer." CreationDate="2019-03-15T10:00:14.993" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18552" PostId="8919" Score="0" Text="I would refer to the 1st answer, given by Sardathrion:  Sometimes a fencer accepted in advance that he is going to die, and he could not escape. He had no choice, as it was matter of honor! If you entered in a duel with swords caused by very serious matter (so not just a duel to first blood!) and had a much superior opponent, you were convinced with 99% probability that you are going to lose your life. Therefore, the mutual kill was the best possible outcome. The 19th century relation from the primary source, I quoted, concerned exactly such situation." CreationDate="2019-03-15T22:48:32.610" UserId="9961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18553" PostId="291" Score="0" Text="FMA instructor here. Sticks are sometimes used as sword analogs, but they're also used as... well, sticks. Often in classes, we specify before a lesson whether we're treating the sticks as blades or treating them as impact weapons, and adjusting striking methods and targeting accordingly (e.g. &quot;blade seeks flesh, stick seeks bone&quot;)." CreationDate="2019-03-16T12:51:53.410" UserId="9967" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18554" PostId="656" Score="0" Text="I wonder where OP trains, I'm an instructor with KMG and pretty sure HQ would lose their minds if they learned that one of their gyms charges that kind of money for every class." CreationDate="2019-03-18T21:34:45.187" UserId="9216" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18563" PostId="1104" Score="0" Text="No.All navies teaches some mix of techniques, not single karate style." CreationDate="2019-03-20T17:46:49.247" UserDisplayName="user9970" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18565" PostId="8932" Score="0" Text="wouldn't this be a physics question?" CreationDate="2019-03-22T09:01:08.950" UserId="9333" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18566" PostId="8932" Score="0" Text="@Daniel It’s on topic on both sites I think." CreationDate="2019-03-22T12:57:47.440" UserId="8276" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18567" PostId="8932" Score="0" Text="I don't see how knowing the force vector will help you. Do you somehow know what force you can sustain?" CreationDate="2019-03-22T18:00:13.577" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18568" PostId="8932" Score="0" Text="@mattm That's a good question, actually. That would be a very worthwhile follow-up question, but that would probably be more appropriate for Medical Sciences SE or Biology SE than for here." CreationDate="2019-03-22T18:22:35.843" UserId="8276" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18569" PostId="8935" Score="0" Text="I'm afraid this is nothing that I have experience in, but I've tried to reformat your question to be more grammatical." CreationDate="2019-03-25T11:18:34.547" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18570" PostId="8935" Score="1" Text="For as often as &quot;flow&quot; is discussed, it is ill-defined. I do not think that improving reaction time is equivalent being in a flow state." CreationDate="2019-03-25T15:58:23.147" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18571" PostId="1752" Score="0" Text="@Rushyo: It would be a great help for the community if you could post an answer on how exactly you plant &amp; reinforce the idea that fighting you is a bad idea. I'm not able to visualize how a slim guy could deter some determined robbers using just words. I've verbally de-escalated a situation once, but that guy was not trying to rob anyone." CreationDate="2019-03-26T08:01:24.817" UserId="6623" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18572" PostId="8931" Score="0" Text="You should improve your answer by adding links to stretches that might be helpful." CreationDate="2019-03-26T09:39:50.840" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18573" PostId="8937" Score="0" Text="thank you , that was very informative , specially last two links" CreationDate="2019-03-27T04:51:58.290" UserId="9976" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18574" PostId="8937" Score="0" Text="@earthling It's unusual to encounter questions like this that appear to have been addressed directly by scientific experiments. This question in particular has many related studies, and I simply selected a few. I'm not particularly familiar with this literature, so there may be still better studies available." CreationDate="2019-03-27T13:51:50.653" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18575" PostId="8798" Score="0" Text="@TonyD I suspect he meant the left-hand (fretboard) fingers, not the right-hand (plucking) fingers." CreationDate="2019-03-27T14:32:15.353" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18577" PostId="8941" Score="2" Text="It's hard not to point out that your age anxiety tied to your profession is your motivation. If all you care about is being physically in better shape than your younger coworkers, it's a pretty low bar for software developers. Most 25 year old software developers you could probably outrun and beat up at age 60 without training. Haha. But if you lose the need to compare yourself to them, yes, there are plenty of martial arts that would get you in good shape, without being too much for a 60 year old to handle, and would make you a better fighter." CreationDate="2019-03-28T01:47:22.600" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18579" PostId="8941" Score="4" Text="If you want to be a bully, nothing can stop you but common decency…" CreationDate="2019-03-28T08:55:26.787" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18582" PostId="7048" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion there is not &quot;erroneous&quot; about my statements....Aikido is often listed in the training methodology of various police departments and armed/security forces along with Judo/Bjj in the listing of their respective h2h combat programs....but take a wild guess what in reality are they primarily training and and relying upon.  Aikido simply does not provide for pressure testing of it's techniques...so how exactly do you figure anyone is actually using it in any dynamic situation ?" CreationDate="2019-03-28T14:00:58.473" UserId="7790" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18583" PostId="8941" Score="1" Text="I am wondering at what rate I am going to decline. Is there any chance at all for a trained 60 yrs old to outfight an untrained 20 yrs old?" CreationDate="2019-03-28T15:04:41.420" UserId="8388" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18584" PostId="7048" Score="0" Text="Shodokan Aikido trains with resistance from mild to full. I have trained with police officers, prison wardens, and soldiers all of whom have used Aikido in real life with great effect. Yoshinka has a course with the Tokyo riot police. Your guess is wrong." CreationDate="2019-03-28T15:33:26.737" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18589" PostId="8940" Score="0" Text="Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been [moved to chat](https://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/91696/discussion-on-answer-by-sean-duggan-should-i-wear-a-groin-protector)." CreationDate="2019-03-29T04:05:54.230" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18590" PostId="8949" Score="0" Text="For a child of 6 years old technique will be watered down, compounded by only being 5th kup. The point is that techniques are similar - and that will allow rapid progress whilst getting the moves 'close' to right is fine - later on he will have to perform moves with the correct chamber, body posture and emphasis - which do differ between the two and will be hampered by the fact that in one lesson they are being corrected one way and in the other another. - many of the people here have many (as in decades of) years of martial arts experience - the posts come from that experience" CreationDate="2019-03-29T09:30:27.570" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18592" PostId="8951" Score="3" Text="Did a session covering pressure points recently - and whilst most people would crumple when pressure was exerted correctly - a couple seemed immune completely and the level of pressure and accuracy needed to get a reaction across the class varied wildly." CreationDate="2019-03-29T12:35:05.640" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18593" PostId="8950" Score="1" Text="See my answer: https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/7752/how-do-you-knock-someone-out-using-pressure-points/7754#7754" CreationDate="2019-03-29T14:41:12.947" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18595" PostId="7286" Score="0" Text="I had the same thought! Thank you for asking I'm going to try wushu first myself thanks for all the awesome answers" CreationDate="2019-03-30T06:16:02.370" UserId="9990" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18612" PostId="8957" Score="2" Text="To make this a useful answer, describe what makes you think these go well together. What openings or weaknesses are there? What new strengths are there?" CreationDate="2019-04-03T02:32:10.610" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18613" PostId="8951" Score="0" Text="Hello @Sean Duggan i did not aware about area between thumb and forefinger. is it backside or front side of hand because i did try to apply pressure (back hand side and front hand side) its not that much paining." CreationDate="2019-04-04T08:31:02.097" UserId="8501" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18614" PostId="8952" Score="1" Text="Thanks @Andrew Jennings i think i need to look for thumb lock. and yes i was confused about Vital area and Vital Pressure Points. and I am not able to understand how pressure point effectiveness can vary from person to person, and from time to time, and from condition to condition. I mean person to person is  still make sense but time to time and condition to condition?" CreationDate="2019-04-04T08:49:22.493" UserId="8501" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18615" PostId="8950" Score="0" Text="@Steve Weigand did read your answer and preaty much got that hitting on vital body parts is only the effective blow and pressure points are not the kind of thing like show in movies or Chinese Medicine Theory and Kyosho-Jitsu. thanks." CreationDate="2019-04-04T09:18:34.573" UserId="8501" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18616" PostId="8951" Score="0" Text="@NisargDesai: It's Pressure Point LI-4 (Hegu) according to acupressure. You squeeze on both sides. Honestly, the only time I've seen it used in a fight context is when being grabbed with a handshake grip since you can target both sides at once. That and lateral pressure on the thumb are two common methods people use to try to exert dominance in a handshake." CreationDate="2019-04-04T12:28:42.933" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18617" PostId="8958" Score="0" Text="Somewhat unusual, but happens in a lot of sports. Phil Mickelson is right handed, but plays golf left handed style." CreationDate="2019-04-04T13:59:55.453" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18618" PostId="8963" Score="1" Text="Protective head gear may not help with preventing concussions or brain damage; it helps prevent cuts. A study of AIBA boxing found that head gear increases the rate of fight stoppages due to head blows and led to the removal of head gear for men's competition. See https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/8907/5961." CreationDate="2019-04-07T11:57:26.947" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18619" PostId="8962" Score="0" Text="If I may ask, why is it punches to the head that you're [worried about](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPVuC6ugmAw)?" CreationDate="2019-04-07T15:47:59.217" UserId="4422" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18620" PostId="8961" Score="0" Text="If you're talking competition, there are several documents for various groups." CreationDate="2019-04-07T20:12:00.183" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18621" PostId="8961" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan Really? Those could be interesting... out of curiosity, do you know if the Kukkiwan publishes one too?" CreationDate="2019-04-07T20:47:52.397" UserId="8276" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18622" PostId="8961" Score="0" Text="Which organizations published the other ones?" CreationDate="2019-04-07T20:48:14.680" UserId="8276" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18623" PostId="8962" Score="1" Text="Cort, well im not afraid of being punched and have been punched to the head. However I need my brain for work lol" CreationDate="2019-04-07T21:38:38.327" UserId="10005" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18624" PostId="8967" Score="2" Text="This seems like a case of fighters telegraphing their move. Can you link to any specific video that illustrates your question?" CreationDate="2019-04-08T01:26:57.110" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18625" PostId="8951" Score="0" Text="thanks for description mostly in handshake people do apply pressure on finger`s edge and thumb. may you please share demonstration or video if possible." CreationDate="2019-04-08T10:32:52.263" UserId="8501" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18626" PostId="8966" Score="0" Text="BTW, you did say &quot;poomsae&quot;, and the only organization I know of that uses poomsae is WTF / Kukkiwon, so, that is the style I provided.  These do not apply to any ITF or other Taekwondo organizations." CreationDate="2019-04-08T13:47:30.993" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18627" PostId="8965" Score="0" Text="Yeah, I was going to post Kyokushin karate. They're pretty famous for the &quot;no punches to the head&quot; rule. They're hard contact with most other things except for that." CreationDate="2019-04-08T15:18:31.077" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18628" PostId="8962" Score="0" Text="It's a valid concern. The risk of CTE is higher with every blow to the head. And while kicking to the head may still be allowed, it's easier to block and evade, therefore kicks to the head should be less frequent. There are also some people who need to protect their head more than other people, for medical reasons. So we should take the question at face value and not try to be too judgmental about it." CreationDate="2019-04-08T19:40:17.167" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18629" PostId="8963" Score="0" Text="Depends on the headgear.  We use a flexible clear plastic visor that looks similar to a riot police helmet.  I am pretty sure this helps." CreationDate="2019-04-09T17:39:28.663" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18630" PostId="2265" Score="3" Text="@PhilipKlöcking I think you'll be happy to learn that in 2017, the All Japan Judo Federation has abolished the white stripe for female black belts, on March the 13th. That said, the original reason for the stripe was that in most of Japan's history, women were seen as inferior in martial arts. Underrepresented, rarely in top class and in general less interested. In 2017 they had to acknowledge the achievements of the female Judoka, thus abolishing the white stripe rule, which was abolished for the rest of the world in 1999." CreationDate="2019-04-10T13:12:21.353" UserId="1397" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18631" PostId="8909" Score="0" Text="Is there a reason you think this exercise needs visualization?" CreationDate="2019-04-10T18:31:25.853" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18635" PostId="8798" Score="0" Text="@ukemi: good point - one-out-of-two pinky control for us guitarists - cheers" CreationDate="2019-04-12T11:51:38.243" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18636" PostId="1504" Score="0" Text="Related: https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/7006/why-is-more-time-dedicated-to-exercises-and-very-less-for-sparring-is-it-for-th" CreationDate="2019-04-12T13:44:47.927" UserId="6623" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18637" PostId="1504" Score="1" Text="Amusingly, the gym I train at is named &quot;Cobra Kai Jiu Jitsu&quot; and I have been thoroughly happy with them, so that name may not be a sign to run..." CreationDate="2019-04-12T19:45:00.580" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18638" PostId="7838" Score="0" Text="Psychologically, such people believe they are right and will argue/insult for any length of time. You can exit the conversation at any point by pausing for a while, pretending to think about what they said, then say &quot;yeah, you are probably right&quot;, and walking away." CreationDate="2019-04-13T11:10:31.960" UserId="6623" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18639" PostId="9002" Score="0" Text="Why are you planning to stop training while studying?" CreationDate="2019-04-13T11:36:16.427" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18640" PostId="9002" Score="0" Text="I am not planning to stop, but I am certain that I won't be able to join any institute pretty soon as I will have to find a place, settle down with new environment and always keep the course my priority. I am confident I will join there only if I begin something here.&#xA;So not sure about the gap if it is going to be a long one, or might be a very short one as well, but certainly there will be a gap,I just wanted to make sure if it is worth enrolling in it with my situation as the 3 month subscription here was expensive.&#xA;Hopefully everything turns out better than expected, thanks." CreationDate="2019-04-14T10:19:32.837" UserId="10015" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18641" PostId="9002" Score="1" Text="I saw a Muay Thai 3 month subscription in India for Rs.12000. That's more than double of what they should be charging you. As of 2019, it's reasonable if a school charges Rs.1500 to 2000 per month and approximately the same amount as a one-time non-refundable payment (which I think they use to do a background check on you). You might want to get familiar with McDojo's: https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/6739/what-are-the-signs-that-a-dojo-could-be-classed-as-a-mcdojo" CreationDate="2019-04-14T10:33:04.270" UserId="6623" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18642" PostId="9002" Score="0" Text="In my Area I have seen 24k for which I was asking for, till 25 is no issue for me, my worry was if it would be worth due to the gap of time that would follow after i leave here.Anyhow, its been positive replies as of yet, will wait some more and decide.Thank you." CreationDate="2019-04-14T13:28:00.533" UserId="10015" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18643" PostId="9025" Score="1" Text="whilst these wouldn't/shouldn't be taught in an MMA gym (set up for competition and not self defence at least) - they may be talked about in the sense of &quot;don't do these they are illegal&quot;." CreationDate="2019-04-15T07:25:27.680" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18644" PostId="9023" Score="1" Text="if you maintain a higher guard you will increase the likelihood of people striking lower and reduce the likelihood of people trying to strike your head - but this will come at the cost of giving a target away and probably a much greater risk of losing the spar.. which seems counter productive, if you really don't want to get hit in the head - spar in a ruleset that forbids it!" CreationDate="2019-04-15T07:29:56.187" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18645" PostId="9025" Score="0" Text="Also, dim mak, the touch of death." CreationDate="2019-04-15T13:22:06.283" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18646" PostId="9023" Score="0" Text="See [here](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/1384/if-im-worried-about-concussions-should-i-train-tae-kwon-do-or-karate-or-neit) and [here](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/998/how-bad-is-kickboxing-for-your-brain/999#999) and [here](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/4536/risk-of-brain-damage-in-casual-moderate-muay-thai-sparring) and [here](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/8886/reducing-brain-damage-in-sparring) for similar questions." CreationDate="2019-04-15T14:10:38.967" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18647" PostId="9023" Score="0" Text="@Collett89 That's actually great advice for new folks. Give up the leg and body damage. You're going to suck at defending it anyway. Learn to defend your head first, then work from there. You'll also learn to throw counters against body/leg strikes." CreationDate="2019-04-16T14:52:57.387" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18648" PostId="9083" Score="2" Text="Count me among those misunderstanding the classification. However, I intended the question with the understanding of ude garami against the bent arm. I'll amend the question. +1" CreationDate="2019-04-18T22:28:45.200" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18649" PostId="626" Score="0" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because &quot;business aspects of running a martial arts school&quot; are now off-topic." CreationDate="2019-04-21T03:29:07.570" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18650" PostId="681" Score="0" Text="FWIW, the CMQ still exists in various forms. We have one with at least two locations in our town. They still teach a highly hybridized martial art that claims a lot of secrets available to the uninitiated, and I think they still claim that their grandmaster can leap off two story buildings and land unharmed due to his kicking technique, but the rest has been toned down." CreationDate="2019-04-21T16:48:23.877" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18651" PostId="8909" Score="0" Text="@mattm there are layers of meaning and practice in qi'gong exercises. I've been taught to use specific visualization in certain exercises and have been encouraged about the spontaneous visualizations that have come to me with other exercises. That's the reason I'm inquiring about visualization in this exercise, but it's a good point that the exercise can be done without worrying about any of that." CreationDate="2019-04-22T21:31:52.877" UserId="6396" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18657" PostId="9092" Score="0" Text="Agreed, the order of precedence/ significance is real life (dojo) &gt; video &gt; photos &gt; drawings. However each one of those has something unique to contribute to learning. Videos don't require presence of sempai or sensei in that moment. Drawings and photos don't require electricity. Drawings can draw out specifics to pay attention to that are easy to miss in the rich details of a photo (see repair manuals)." CreationDate="2019-04-29T13:37:42.313" UserId="349" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18658" PostId="9092" Score="0" Text="I would still rather use a more up to date book with photos than those illustrations." CreationDate="2019-04-29T14:24:58.217" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18670" PostId="7048" Score="2" Text="@Sardathrion I have seen &quot;Aikido trained with resistance&quot;....and guess what usually is the result ? 1. Their concept of resistance pretty much amounts to performing the same nonsense dance...just a little harder.  2. It ends up looking like two toddlers flailing about as they desperately try to force their Aikido techniques to work.  Funny how all the &quot;effective Aikido&quot; is no where to be found outside of internet forum anecdotes." CreationDate="2019-05-01T22:49:47.717" UserId="7790" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18671" PostId="9100" Score="2" Text="For those that have flagged this as piracy, he is recommending buying the book. A method to convert it to a different format is not piracy, and in fact is commonly done (As evidenced by the tutorial on the Cailbre site.) Open source != piracy." CreationDate="2019-05-02T14:14:07.157" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18672" PostId="9100" Score="1" Text="Thanks @JohnP. This similar to taking the paperback book and cutting the illustrations out, which is what I was going to do if I didn't find a digital solution. Now I have pictures I can re-arrange into a personal study guide in a way that makes sense to me." CreationDate="2019-05-02T15:40:01.250" UserId="349" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18673" PostId="9100" Score="0" Text="The images are copyrighted. You cannot just pull them from the book and use them willy nilly. But ***I am not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV***, use this &quot;advise&quot; at your own risk and consult a real lawyer." CreationDate="2019-05-03T07:22:51.613" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18674" PostId="9098" Score="1" Text="When I asked for clarifications from the guru, he used to take it as a personal insult and not explain it. I see logic in your point, but since the breath holding was done only before starting the main exercises, I can only speculate it came from an ancient yoga practice of getting the mind focussed for the exercises. If it was about low oxygenation, it should have been practiced during the main exercises, but that was never done." CreationDate="2019-05-04T16:07:53.583" UserId="6623" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18676" PostId="9101" Score="0" Text="Run away. Any techniques designed for multiple opponents are nonsense." CreationDate="2019-05-08T16:01:17.647" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18677" PostId="9110" Score="1" Text="Welcome to the site. I think this is on topic based on previous questions." CreationDate="2019-05-09T07:50:15.763" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18678" PostId="9110" Score="1" Text="It looks like a general vambrace, or bracer, but I can't find anything specifically tying it to knife-fighting." CreationDate="2019-05-09T12:38:19.130" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18679" PostId="9109" Score="0" Text="Okay, so one thing I am gathering from your post is that there is a difference between Wushu and Bagua and Tai Chi. I thought Wushu was simply Chinese martial arts, and in effect any martial arts style originating from China would be Wushu. It seems that Wushu is it's own style though, am I correct? Perhaps this has to do with your second point, where the Chinese govt. put traditional styles under the terms Wushu? My instructors English is hard to understand sometimes so it may be why I'm slightly confused." CreationDate="2019-05-09T12:56:30.987" UserId="10044" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18680" PostId="9109" Score="0" Text="@junfanbl The short version is that both of your statements are basically true: &quot;there is a difference between Wushu and Bagua and Tai Chi... any martial arts style originating from China would be Wushu.&quot; In terms of sets: Bagua and taiji are included in wushu, but wushu has elements that are not included in bagua or taiji. But also the bagua and taiji in wushu are not the same as bagua and taiji outside wushu. For a longer explanation, you should ask a new question." CreationDate="2019-05-09T15:20:52.273" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18681" PostId="9113" Score="2" Text="To which Taekwondo organization are you referring? Each one will have a different sequence of colored ranks, followed by black belt ranks. Each one usually also distinguishes between child rank and adult rank. This information is generally available by searching on Google." CreationDate="2019-05-10T15:37:20.877" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18682" PostId="9113" Score="1" Text="I've never known one with just 6, but if I were to guess, White, Yellow, Green, Brown, Red, Black is most likely. But won't someone think of the camo belt? As for how long it takes to get them, I'm pretty sure Amazon has overnight shipping. By drones in some areas." CreationDate="2019-05-10T16:35:20.713" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18683" PostId="9091" Score="1" Text="If the images are copyrighted you can´t use them freely without the owner's approval." CreationDate="2019-05-10T17:26:34.540" UserId="10051" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18684" PostId="9100" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion when a person purchases a book, physical or virtual, they're free to use the contents as they wish, including cutting pieces out and re-using in some other form. What's not allowed without copyright holder's permission is redistributing that to other people. (And for what it's worth I've contacted the publisher and asked for permission. Initial conversation held but too early to say what might come of it.)" CreationDate="2019-05-10T18:44:01.863" UserId="349" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18685" PostId="9091" Score="0" Text="@Mauricio they can be _used_ but not _redistributed_. See discussion on my answer for more on this." CreationDate="2019-05-10T18:45:18.167" UserId="349" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18686" PostId="9091" Score="0" Text="You may want to edit your question slightly; it was only through commentary that we can discern what your true intentions with the images are." CreationDate="2019-05-10T18:57:15.590" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18687" PostId="9091" Score="0" Text="You are free to use the images as you want, so long as you keep those images private to you.  Without permission, and without a claim to fair use, you cannot give, sell, or provide them to anyone else, or vice-versa.  &#xA;&#xA;If your intention is to help you learn better, you have no copyright issues.  &#xA;&#xA;But if you intend to take what you've done and provide it to your students or readers - free or for charge - you are running afoul of law.  If you wish to write about them and reference a few of them as a news piece, you're good to go." CreationDate="2019-05-10T18:58:17.843" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18688" PostId="9113" Score="0" Text="And don't forget, you can have stripes down the whole belt (length-wise). And you can have stripes that get taped to the ends of the belt. Like my old TKD school did white, yellow, yellow 1 stripe, orange, orange 1 stripe, green, green 1-3 stripes, blue, blue 1-3 stripes, red, red 1-3 stripes, brown, brown 1-3 stripes, black, black 1-9 stripes. The stripes on colored rank required passing tests, or you could test into the stripes. Like when I tested for yellow belt, I went from white belt to yellow with 1 stripe. This was good for business and student retention apparently. Win-win." CreationDate="2019-05-10T20:18:20.440" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18689" PostId="9115" Score="0" Text="Which style is this for? Tae Kwan Do? Karate? Kung Fu? Capoeira? And what organization or style?" CreationDate="2019-05-10T23:53:06.363" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18690" PostId="9115" Score="2" Text="Not exactly an answer, but belts do come in different length, and cost around $10 (unless it's an embroidered brown/black belt, obviously). Any reason why switching to a shorter belt isn't possible/desirable?" CreationDate="2019-05-11T02:26:12.370" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18691" PostId="9113" Score="1" Text="see also [this question](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/3117/1618)" CreationDate="2019-05-11T03:40:06.523" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18692" PostId="9115" Score="0" Text="Didn’t think it mattered: it’s Taekwondo." CreationDate="2019-05-11T07:32:38.980" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18693" PostId="9115" Score="0" Text="I reworded the title, so that it really addresses the underlying problem - a long belt - and makes it open to more answers." CreationDate="2019-05-11T16:26:32.153" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18694" PostId="9092" Score="0" Text="A more recent book wouldn't be free from the intellectual property concerns. If anything they'd be heightened as the author is more likely to be alive and drawing sustenance from the work." CreationDate="2019-05-11T17:08:30.977" UserId="349" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18695" PostId="9115" Score="0" Text="@DanielReis: I asked because different styles have different traditions on how to tie the belt, which might constrain the possible suggestions." CreationDate="2019-05-11T18:17:28.157" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18697" PostId="9113" Score="0" Text="For times, also see [Belt advancement speed in Taekwondo](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/1575/5961)" CreationDate="2019-05-12T15:00:29.200" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18698" PostId="9116" Score="1" Text="I wonder if you are referring to a double overhand knot.  Most belts are tied with a sort of square knot, with the first overhand enclosing the belt wraps only once; a double overhand would do the same but with two wraps.  Kind of like what is here:  https://www.indoorclimbing.com/Overhand_Knot.html.  If so, you're right, this would work and may not look funky, especially if the 2nd overhand didn't also need to be a double overhand." CreationDate="2019-05-13T17:07:14.793" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18700" PostId="9120" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the answer Sean, shadowing is good but I don't get tired of doing 30 minute shadow, but I do get tired from a 5 minute run on a 15kph treadmill, so I might be shadowing wrong?&#xA;Is there an equivalent to shadowing/heavy bag drills that I can do on a treadmill or weights?" CreationDate="2019-05-21T02:17:19.303" UserId="10063" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18702" PostId="9122" Score="1" Text="Thanks Tony, I wonder if I can find someone who has the same goals to train with" CreationDate="2019-05-21T04:52:13.377" UserId="10063" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18703" PostId="9127" Score="3" Text="I've seen a couple sources that suggest stabilizing the cord, being used as a different strike point and slightly changing the center of gravity, but nothing that I would regard as even halfway credible." CreationDate="2019-05-21T14:02:47.247" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18704" PostId="9128" Score="1" Text="I have some things to say on this. But first, is the question on whether you meet the entrance requirements for the competition? Or is the question more along the lines of whether or not you'll face competition that's way more skilled than you are?" CreationDate="2019-05-21T20:13:28.543" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18705" PostId="9126" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the answer, you're on the money about the adrenaline and I think it was a big factor during my first match, all the anxiousness and not being able to think or strategise was due to that I think.&#xA;I know this diverts into another question but any advice on how to manage that especially in the ring?" CreationDate="2019-05-22T01:22:44.653" UserId="10063" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18706" PostId="9125" Score="0" Text="Great answer, thanks! I like the idea about running sideways, that would definitely get me a bit lighter on my feet during a fight" CreationDate="2019-05-22T01:23:46.927" UserId="10063" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18707" PostId="9123" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the answer, I'll definitely try that" CreationDate="2019-05-22T01:26:57.143" UserId="10063" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18708" PostId="9124" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the answer &amp; the video, great advice!" CreationDate="2019-05-22T01:27:53.543" UserId="10063" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18709" PostId="9130" Score="1" Text="Good source. However, I am sceptical (shocker!⸮) of its claims." CreationDate="2019-05-22T07:01:47.500" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18710" PostId="9126" Score="1" Text="Of course, no problem. In my own experience (I used to compete semi-professionally in Mixed Martial Arts), the 'adrenaline dump' is a function of your nervousness. Thus, over time as you gain more experience, and become more comfortable competing, it will be less of a factor. Don't forget too, that adrenaline serves a purpose, especially so in combat sport. Adrenaline decreases the body's ability to feel pain, grants you mental focus, and temporarily increases strength. It's valuable and not something to try and rid yourself of. So my only real advice for managing it, is to compete often." CreationDate="2019-05-22T07:58:01.957" UserId="10072" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18711" PostId="9130" Score="2" Text="@sardathtion: Same. But the only other fence I've seen to the ring is on chain nunchaku, where it apparently creates an extra ringing sound." CreationDate="2019-05-22T09:24:50.897" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18712" PostId="9128" Score="0" Text="I'd say the question is focused more about the competition I'd be facing and how skilled they are in comparison." CreationDate="2019-05-22T13:10:32.133" UserId="10044" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18715" PostId="9130" Score="2" Text="Sean - Yes, that is one of the sources that I found. It was actually the more credible of the few mentions that were out there. There is a ***lot*** of conjecture around martial arts weapons floating around on the internet." CreationDate="2019-05-22T13:36:12.457" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18716" PostId="9121" Score="0" Text="Yes, some form of (HI)IT would be my bet as well." CreationDate="2019-05-22T16:30:23.113" UserId="10080" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18722" PostId="9135" Score="0" Text="Demetrious Johnson, Ali Bagautinov, and Khabib Nurmagomedov have all competed in UFC. As for the latter, there are too many variables to be anything other than opinion." CreationDate="2019-05-22T19:16:39.240" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18723" PostId="9138" Score="0" Text="The first kanji is &quot;separate&quot;, I think." CreationDate="2019-05-22T23:03:10.553" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18724" PostId="9138" Score="0" Text="The second might be &quot;grade 4&quot;" CreationDate="2019-05-22T23:07:13.167" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18725" PostId="9138" Score="0" Text="It's also not far from the kanji for &quot;bokuto&quot;, 木刀" CreationDate="2019-05-22T23:36:29.260" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18727" PostId="9136" Score="0" Text="Wow, that is really surprising to hear about a lack of competition. In some ways it gives me some confidence; I do however want to be challenged. I like your viewpoint though, use competition to gauge your skill and reassess your future training needs. I have thought about adding gymnastics to my curriculum as well. Seems like a good idea." CreationDate="2019-05-23T13:03:06.750" UserId="10044" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18729" PostId="9138" Score="4" Text="I dropped a link over in the Japanese SE chat room. The indication was that TonyD's answer is correct, essentially it means &quot;New&quot;." CreationDate="2019-05-23T14:12:05.503" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18730" PostId="9142" Score="0" Text="Thank you I have updated the image." CreationDate="2019-05-23T15:39:46.663" UserId="10082" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18731" PostId="9142" Score="0" Text="I believe you're right. My answer is probably wrong. I found this kanji in the following link... Google translate says the first character is &quot;shin&quot;, second character is &quot;dome&quot;. So the character that's on your bokken is likely &quot;shin&quot;. https://www.sinonome-japan.com/en/bokken/97-aikido-quality-wooden-sword.html" CreationDate="2019-05-23T16:12:44.390" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18732" PostId="9136" Score="0" Text="That's the way to do it. This first tournament should be to gauge your competition level and get oriented. One year in, nobody is going to expect you to perform at an advanced level. So don't be at all embarrassed. And consider it as valuable experience performing in front of judges and others. Wushu is a performance based art. So this is part of your training. Good luck!" CreationDate="2019-05-23T18:09:11.210" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18733" PostId="9142" Score="0" Text="@DanieleProcida: You're welcome.  By the way, the updated image isn't quite right... it should have that small downward stroke at the top left." CreationDate="2019-05-23T19:46:14.007" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18734" PostId="9142" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand: I must admit I &quot;cheated&quot; a bit - my partner's Japanese and I went straight for the &quot;hey, what's this kanji?&quot; - actually got confused for a bit when told the first version of the trace wasn't the same as the photo - so hard to tell." CreationDate="2019-05-23T19:48:43.947" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18735" PostId="9142" Score="0" Text="The real question is why is it &quot;shin&quot;? What's the significance of it? I know it means &quot;new&quot;, but does that mean it's natural wood or something? Or is it &quot;shin&quot; as in &quot;spirit&quot; or &quot;live&quot;?" CreationDate="2019-05-23T19:51:49.927" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18736" PostId="9142" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand: I suspect it's being used as a brand name, and that likely because it was part of the name of the person who created the company or crafted the bokken.  It's sometimes used as a first name for boys or girls &#xA; - https://japanese-names.info/first_name/shin/ - but can also be used as a surname - where it's pronounced &quot;arata&quot; (on vs kun readings) - search for &quot;arata&quot; at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_name.  But as you say it could have been chosen to describe the company or wood or even the spirit with which it was to be wielded as fresh and new...." CreationDate="2019-05-23T20:06:12.117" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18737" PostId="9142" Score="0" Text="With the circle around it, it suggests a name. So you're probably right that it might be part of a family or company name." CreationDate="2019-05-23T20:09:56.793" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18738" PostId="9135" Score="0" Text="Pankration is an abusrdly broad term. In many places it just refers to a bout with normal MMA rules except no strikes to the head/face. It's usually done by teenagers that are looking to get into MMA eventually. If you mean that ancient Greek Pankration, the rules are essentially the same as modern MMA. The differences are probably only no headbutts, soccer kicks, downed knees to the head, or 12-6 elbows." CreationDate="2019-05-23T20:21:15.710" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18739" PostId="5154" Score="2" Text="@Sardathrion: (sorry - four year old convo, but anyway) I believe almost all male high school students will have had to do a little judo, so you've got tens of millions of people, many of whom have no interest or aptitude and were pushed to do it to &quot;build character&quot;.  Not a healthy situation." CreationDate="2019-05-23T20:28:17.440" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18742" PostId="9143" Score="3" Text="Outstanding answer.  Well said and well researched." CreationDate="2019-05-24T14:44:56.513" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18743" PostId="7840" Score="0" Text="@gideonmarx, I once knew a U.S. Vietnam veteran who was a black belt in Karate. He was dropped behind enemy lines by way of plane. Long story short, the military thought his entire unit was killed. He was left behind, stuck in the jungle with no ammunition. He worked his way out of Vietnam using his martial arts training and killing people with his hands when necessary. He died an old man in his bed, at home. That's right, when he ran out of bullets his martial arts training saved his life." CreationDate="2019-05-24T15:44:21.847" UserId="10044" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18744" PostId="5154" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion: the NY Times article you linked focuses on deaths of and injuries to students being pushed too hard in the school judo system." CreationDate="2019-05-24T16:17:24.127" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18745" PostId="5154" Score="1" Text="@tonyd Yes, indeed...  Long ago. " CreationDate="2019-05-24T16:32:06.473" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18746" PostId="7840" Score="0" Text="@junfanbl Don't be naive. I heard that story about a guy in Angola and I'm sure there is a variation of it for every combat zone in the world." CreationDate="2019-05-26T05:52:48.697" UserId="6585" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18747" PostId="7840" Score="0" Text="It's not &quot;that&quot; story, or some story you read about. This person was a close relative of mine. I have no doubt that it has happened more than once. The problem with philosophy is that real life gets in its way." CreationDate="2019-05-28T12:29:17.143" UserId="10044" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18748" PostId="9146" Score="0" Text="It's illegal (hansoku make) in judo to intentionally throw an opponent on their head, regardless of what technique you use to do so. See [Appendix D Refereeing Rules, Article 18 Hansoku Make #5 of the  IJF Sport and Organisation Rules](http://99e89a50309ad79ff91d-082b8fd5551e97bc65e327988b444396.r14.cf3.rackcdn.com/up/2018/10/IJF_Sport_and_Organisation_Rul-1539980456.pdf)&#xA;&quot;5. To make any action this may endanger or injure the opponent especially the&#xA;opponent’s neck or spinal vertebrae or may be against the spirit of judo.&quot;" CreationDate="2019-05-28T12:56:20.160" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18749" PostId="9146" Score="0" Text="@mattm indeed, I meant instances where the uke intentionally uses their head to avoid falling &quot;correctly&quot; from a throw (p.109 article 14 point 2 &quot;bridge&quot;; p.122 point 2 &quot;head defence&quot;). Will clarify this point." CreationDate="2019-05-28T13:15:12.523" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18751" PostId="9149" Score="2" Text="See [How to counter a grab to a kicking leg?](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/8239/5961)." CreationDate="2019-05-29T12:24:07.010" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18752" PostId="9146" Score="0" Text="I disagree with this interpretation. For a judo ura nage, if you force someone's head into the ground (throw onto the head), that is a disqualification (direct hansoku make). Aiming to throw on the back is legal. This agrees with the BJJ rule: &quot;The use of this technique is still permitted provided that the movement does not force the opponent’s head or neck into the ground.&quot; The act of bridging to avoid back contact is illegal in judo, but legal in BJJ, though I am not sure anyone would want to do it due to the danger and relatively low score from a throw." CreationDate="2019-05-29T14:09:32.337" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18753" PostId="9146" Score="0" Text="Similarly for the hikkimomi gaeshi, if you drive someone's head into the mat intentionally, that is a disqualification. The example from the BJJ rules is just that; there is no attempt to tuck uke's head under with tori's elbow to induce a roll, and tori's leg is disengaged outside uke's body." CreationDate="2019-05-29T14:12:21.550" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18754" PostId="9146" Score="0" Text="So although the umbrella of techniques referred to as ura nage and hikkikomi gaeshi cover legal techniques in judo, the ones that are illegal in BJJ would also be illegal in judo." CreationDate="2019-05-29T14:15:13.623" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18755" PostId="9150" Score="4" Text="It's amazing, isn't it, how many things work in a cooperative environment. :)" CreationDate="2019-05-29T14:25:18.353" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18757" PostId="9148" Score="1" Text="Good answer. I would just add that correct posture / stance varies from one style to another. Even within the same style, it can vary depending on how tall a person is, the ratio of leg length to body length, etc. What is &quot;perfect&quot; form, then, is a bit subjective. Some styles may have a slight lean forward instead of a perfectly straight up and down back, and that's intentional. No styles like you looking at the ground, though, and so that sort of thing will definitely be a deduction. You'll figure out the unwritten &quot;rules&quot; over time." CreationDate="2019-05-29T18:31:25.313" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18758" PostId="9148" Score="1" Text="@SteveWeigand - The WKF usually grades katas in conformance to the competitor's style (Shotokan, Shito-Ryu, Wado-Ryu and Goju-Ryu are all recognized in WKF events). Thus, a Shotokan stylist wouldn't be graded the same as a Goju-Ryu stylist for a specific kata if Shotokan requires the use of hangetsu-dachi while Goju-Ryu favours sanchin-dachi. What I don't know, as I've never personally competed under the WKF, is if they would be judged differently on identical stances if their respective styles usually train them differently." CreationDate="2019-05-29T19:14:32.287" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18759" PostId="2348" Score="0" Text="Related: https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/7483/has-anyone-studied-the-demographics-of-martial-arts https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/7024/reliable-statistics-about-martial-arts" CreationDate="2019-05-29T20:32:20.593" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18760" PostId="9146" Score="0" Text="I would ask that as a new question; I am not a BJJ rules expert and you will get better answers from others rather than in the comments of this question. Also, as a low-ranking judo referee, I would call hansoku make on blue for 0:27; this is both dangerous for uke and is the backwards portion of Hansoku Make #1: 'To “dive” head first, onto the tatami by bending forward and downward while performing or attempting to perform techniques such as uchi-mata, harai-goshi, etc. or to fall directly backwards while performing or attempting a technique.'" CreationDate="2019-05-29T21:52:52.883" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18761" PostId="9148" Score="0" Text="Yeah, that's what I was implying. When you enter a Shotokan tournament, you will be judged on what is correct for Shotokan. But when the tournament is open to many styles, the judges will need to have a broader understanding of all of the different stylistic differences. Trouble is, judges often don't. So there will be bias and misunderstandings. But honestly, most judges can tell when someone is performing exceptionally well vs. average. It's when two competitors are very close that understanding these stylistic nuances may become important." CreationDate="2019-05-30T19:02:15.170" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18763" PostId="9145" Score="2" Text="Note that that's just the IBJJF rules, which are widely regarded as overbearing. Granted most Open tournaments don't allow slams, but some do, and several pro and invitationals do allow slams. Unlike many martial arts there is no central governing body of BJJ, so rule sets vary. I've done some BJJ pro invitationals before and been pleasantly surprised to see &quot;slamming&quot; as an allowed technique." CreationDate="2019-05-31T13:27:28.237" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18770" PostId="9162" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site! This is an excellent addition, thank you for the digging and the find!" CreationDate="2019-06-03T14:02:58.337" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18771" PostId="5379" Score="0" Text="The original quote is from an essay by Mao Zedong: https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-1/mswv1_12.htm" CreationDate="2019-06-03T20:42:24.607" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18773" PostId="5605" Score="2" Text="It's a sher-lock." CreationDate="2019-06-03T22:31:59.423" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18774" PostId="9133" Score="1" Text="*Canon of Judo* is a good example of the messiness of technique identification. The technique called body armlock (*ude-hisihigi-tai-gatame*) on page 151 is currently called *ude-hisihigi-waki-gatame* in most places. I do not expect resources to agree always." CreationDate="2019-06-04T11:46:28.450" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18777" PostId="9168" Score="2" Text="Please summarize what the paper says that is relevant to the question." CreationDate="2019-06-04T19:49:03.527" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18780" PostId="9171" Score="3" Text="Really curious about this as well, as my Judo club has the same philosophy as yours. We had a few BJJ guys come over time and, while they didn't really seem surprised about this, they very rarely sought more experienced training partners." CreationDate="2019-06-06T03:14:47.960" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18783" PostId="7930" Score="0" Text="Try asking here  http://www.e-budo.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?24-Shorinji-Kempo   It doesn't seem very active though maybe someone will respond if they see a post. Good luck.  They didn't have essays when I got my 1st kyu in 1983." CreationDate="2019-06-06T11:29:41.090" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18784" PostId="9171" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion This particular person trains at multiple BJJ locations, and I have no reason to suspect disrepute." CreationDate="2019-06-06T12:54:49.010" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18785" PostId="9171" Score="0" Text="@mattm Ah, okay. It could be a BJJ thing then, at least where you are." CreationDate="2019-06-06T14:03:27.977" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18786" PostId="6279" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I agree with you on pretty much every point, but I'm still sad that no options are allowed to exist for men in similar positions. As a (now less) fat man, women in (regular) gyms will avoid working on machines and stations next to me and will comment on my body pretty often. On the men's side, the pervasive bro culture in my area makes it hard to find support anywhere, and the comments are just as bad. So while I feel pretty much the same way as many women do in gyms or martial arts schools, I don't have access to a better environment. But I can definitely see the appeal..." CreationDate="2019-06-06T20:32:06.390" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18787" PostId="9173" Score="0" Text="This does not actually answer the question and reads like an advert for your club." CreationDate="2019-06-07T06:53:08.060" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18788" PostId="9173" Score="0" Text="As stated, this reads as an advertisement, perhaps you could provide more details/background? Also, you have disclosed that it is your school. This is ok in some instances, and you are free to link to your school in your profile. However, too much of this in answers is not allowed, and acn lead to your posts being labeled as spam or excessive self promotion." CreationDate="2019-06-07T15:22:36.790" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18789" PostId="2508" Score="0" Text="Related: https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/9093/what-is-the-difference-between-judo-and-wrestling" CreationDate="2019-06-08T11:13:38.047" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18790" PostId="9183" Score="1" Text="*&quot;knuckles push-ups doesn't help to make bigger knuckles&quot;* - but by putting the bones under load/stress, knuckle push ups triggers a strengthening response in the body - they're a great way to reduce the chances of your hand breaking when you hit something hard." CreationDate="2019-06-09T01:39:48.553" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18791" PostId="9184" Score="0" Text="How to get rid of knuckles @mattm?" CreationDate="2019-06-09T02:03:22.800" UserId="10117" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18792" PostId="9185" Score="4" Text="Yes, and I’d add that practitioners of this kind of toughening exercise never attain the abilities that are promised to them, the biggest one being that you will be able to pierce the flesh of your opponent like a dagger. That stuff is for the movies. This is one practice that should be thrown in the dust bin of flawed martial theories. I trained this way in my teen years, btw. It will rip apart your nail cuticles and can leave you with arthritis in your fingers. Adding herbal jows is pretty useless." CreationDate="2019-06-09T23:10:45.083" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18795" PostId="9182" Score="0" Text="And is there anything I can do to improve my answer from your perspective?" CreationDate="2019-06-11T14:06:23.263" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18796" PostId="9183" Score="0" Text="Hi Dimitri Petrov, In the pictures, those look like calluses, which result from a lot of punching of rough objects, which, as others have stated, isn't good for long-term health and happiness. I'm sure Bruce had strong hands too, as mentioned in this question: &#xA; https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/375/how-should-i-expect-my-fist-to-change-over-time-from-punching" CreationDate="2019-06-12T15:30:59.820" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18797" PostId="9191" Score="1" Text="Just for the record, I support self answers like this to archive learned knowledge." CreationDate="2019-06-14T11:09:55.070" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18798" PostId="9189" Score="0" Text="There is a positional difference between the two - when using the upright position your legs/knees/heels will be a lot more aligned with your hips, when you're leaning forward your hips are probably drastically out of vertical alignment, this can produce more lateral stresses in your knees. Use whichever position gives you less stress in your knees but still allows a good stretch through the groin area. You also don't need to be able to do the splits to be an awesome kicker." CreationDate="2019-06-14T11:11:12.620" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18799" PostId="9189" Score="0" Text="@slugster, thank you for your comment, glad if you construct an answer from your comment. I know, and I have rather good high kicks, but I want more - more stretch will low stamina necessary for maintaining a kick." CreationDate="2019-06-14T11:44:09.200" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18800" PostId="9189" Score="0" Text="@user2501323 - It might help if you outlined what you mean by &quot;good high kicks&quot; and what you think the splits might gain for you in your question." CreationDate="2019-06-14T14:01:50.653" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18801" PostId="9189" Score="3" Text="Related questions: [What are ways to increase flexibility for karate kicks?](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/723/what-are-ways-to-increase-flexibility-for-karate-kicks), [Good exercises for higher side kicks?](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/93/good-exercises-for-higher-side-kicks), [The 180 degree leg split](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/4940/the-180-degree-leg-split)" CreationDate="2019-06-14T18:08:45.267" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18803" PostId="408" Score="0" Text="Some companies sell strips made of gi-material for exactly this. They might be easier to use (depending on what specific exercises you want to do) than trying to wrap a gi jacket around your equipment (e.g. Adidas' [&quot;The Band&quot;](https://www.combat-sports.net/en/catalog-judo/#book/12))." CreationDate="2019-06-16T12:56:06.590" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18804" PostId="9189" Score="0" Text="@mattm, thank you. Missed these questions" CreationDate="2019-06-17T06:22:27.487" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18806" PostId="7342" Score="1" Text="In the BJA (British Judo Association), there is a minimum age requirement for *dan* grades. Said minimum age for *sandan* (3rd dan) is 20: [*Dan Grade Promotion Syllabus*](https://www.britishjudo.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Dan-Grade-Promotion-Syllabus-05.2016.pdf)" CreationDate="2019-06-18T14:58:44.643" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18807" PostId="9200" Score="1" Text="[Coinbird wrote an answer to one of my questions that addresses this.](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/7800/5961)" CreationDate="2019-06-19T11:20:33.707" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18808" PostId="7800" Score="0" Text="I read the Gracie book, but I find it very technique-oriented in a I cannot see the forest for the trees way. I am looking for a deeper discussion of the positional strategy section in the introduction, not the myriad of techniques that follows. I still need to hunt down the Eddie Bravo book." CreationDate="2019-06-19T12:19:31.497" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18809" PostId="9200" Score="0" Text="https://www.reddit.com/r/bjj/comments/8yldt5/bjj_standardized_syllabus/ and http://www.whitebeltproblems.com/finding-a-bjj-school/does-brazilian-jiu-jitsu-have-a-standard-curriculum-66/ may also be useful." CreationDate="2019-06-19T15:08:24.290" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18812" PostId="9206" Score="2" Text="Can you explain why you think it's a good choice other than it being a &quot;beautiful art&quot;." CreationDate="2019-06-19T18:56:51.517" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18813" PostId="9205" Score="2" Text="Um... do you feel this is an appropriate approach for *sparring*, attacking the joints?" CreationDate="2019-06-19T19:00:40.067" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18815" PostId="9206" Score="0" Text="The wing chun practice  wooden dummy is very easy to learn step's to get new learners easier way into your branches of art. Can you explain why your comment was not a better answer to this question?" CreationDate="2019-06-19T19:31:40.470" UserId="9702" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18816" PostId="9205" Score="0" Text="If it is not allowed during sparring where you are then it is your responsibility to follow the rules. But phantom pain also can become feint." CreationDate="2019-06-19T19:34:22.057" UserId="9702" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18817" PostId="9206" Score="1" Text=":) You are right that I could probably try to expand my comment to an answer. I had forgotten I'd left one. As you can see in the comments to the question, we are looking at answers that provide justification other than &quot;I do this art, so it's the best choice&quot;. In this case, the querent mentions joints, philosophy, and equipment among their criteria. Do you feel Wing Chun fits? If so, you may want to address those points." CreationDate="2019-06-19T19:50:28.457" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18818" PostId="9206" Score="2" Text="I agree that I should address many more of those points. As soon as I log in on desktop I will backtrack to this answer and update it to specified justifications for the community." CreationDate="2019-06-19T19:54:46.830" UserId="9702" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18819" PostId="9208" Score="0" Text="Are you discussing movie scenes, or a particular school or style's teachings? Either is a valid question, but it's important for us to know what context to answer in." CreationDate="2019-06-19T20:37:13.940" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18820" PostId="9208" Score="0" Text="Answer in relation to conditioning the human body using all martial arts training against ocean waves. How does this form of conditioning harden our martial art's?" CreationDate="2019-06-19T20:43:16.487" UserId="9702" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18821" PostId="7800" Score="0" Text="@mattm You'll find Eddie's books much more &quot;flow&quot; oriented. For every strange position he throws at you he will have multiple different avenues you can explore to move to different positions or submissions. Also tons of pictures, which is nice. His other book Mastering the Twister is also a great one. I picked up some mean techniques from that one that I throw in MMA sparring. Half the time dudes don't know what the hell is happening to them, but they know something is about to break! The Electric Chair is a submission series from hell!" CreationDate="2019-06-19T20:48:31.453" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18822" PostId="9208" Score="0" Text="In what sense do you mean &quot;harden&quot;?" CreationDate="2019-06-19T20:56:34.673" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18823" PostId="9208" Score="0" Text="In the sense of martial art conditioning of the human body during training..." CreationDate="2019-06-19T20:57:52.287" UserId="9702" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18826" PostId="9204" Score="1" Text="Thank you for your answer.  I wanted to explore the words deeply because there are often implications lost in translation that could be very small, but could have a large effect on my practice in the next few years." CreationDate="2019-06-19T22:01:49.310" UserId="10128" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18828" PostId="9207" Score="1" Text="Are you an AI based chat bot by any chance? :)" CreationDate="2019-06-20T04:57:41.900" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18829" PostId="9207" Score="0" Text="No. I also was starting to think people who were in the comments where bots." CreationDate="2019-06-20T04:59:18.917" UserId="9702" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18830" PostId="8240" Score="1" Text="Obi-tori-gaeshi was historically considered a variant of hikikomi-gaeshi by the Kodokan. In [2017](http://kodokanjudoinstitute.org/en/news/2017/04/names-of-judo-technique/), during the most recent revision to their technique list, it gained its own separate classification.&#xA;&#xA;The previous classification of this throw as a variant of hikikomi-gaeshi (as opposed to sumi-gaeshi) is somewhat arbitrary - it has points in common with both (as detailed in the quotes in [mattm's answer](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/8241/8910))." CreationDate="2019-06-20T09:20:00.947" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18832" PostId="5235" Score="2" Text="**Note:** since this answer was posted the Kodokan has added obi-tori-gaeshi and kouchi-maki-komi, and removed daki-age (as of [2017](http://kodokanjudoinstitute.org/en/news/2017/04/names-of-judo-technique/))." CreationDate="2019-06-20T15:52:51.877" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18833" PostId="2903" Score="0" Text="If you get your nose broken, you can get the septum repaired. Win/win." CreationDate="2019-06-20T20:00:51.770" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18835" PostId="9211" Score="2" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it has nothing to do with martial arts whatsoever." CreationDate="2019-06-21T08:37:05.257" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18838" PostId="9211" Score="1" Text="I do not understand why this question has been so poorly received. It's asking about movie realism, which has been accepted before." CreationDate="2019-06-21T12:17:01.173" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18839" PostId="9211" Score="1" Text="@mattm First, there are two questions: one relates to hypothetical attacks against a target with a weapon. It is too board and since this is a movie utterly irrelevant for here. The second relates to what kind of punch is done: clearly a movie-powered hook. There is nothing special here. There is no link to the video, just a still image making identification of whatever the punch was harder. The rest of the post is about … Frankly, I have no idea of the point it is trying making. Lastly, there is point begging." CreationDate="2019-06-21T12:38:57.617" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18840" PostId="9211" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion The first link is the video, set to start just before the punch." CreationDate="2019-06-21T12:51:06.027" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18841" PostId="9211" Score="0" Text="@mattm So it is. My apologies." CreationDate="2019-06-21T12:57:26.393" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18846" PostId="9214" Score="0" Text="Is there a source that backs up your statement? I'm not doubting your experience, but answers backed up with sources, references, are preferred over anecdotal answers." CreationDate="2019-06-21T15:51:55.387" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18856" PostId="8603" Score="1" Text="A worthwhile example might be how there have been noises of adding Parkour or Freerunning to the Olympics, but it's predicated on being subject to the Gymnastics leadership, which many Parkour organizations have rejected." CreationDate="2019-06-22T16:35:11.417" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18857" PostId="8604" Score="3" Text="A martial art  that does not have 'games' (competitive and high-impact practice forms) is basically useless since it lacks training forms where the techniques are trained close or identical to actual application. I do not want to defend point-fighting with regards to self-defense, but Rafael Aghayev surely can defend himself better than 99.9% of the Ninjutsu/Systema/Krav Maga people training 'martial arts' which are 'training for self-defense' with techniques 'too dangerous to be done at full force in training'. Try to fight a good wrestler. He'll probably beat you up." CreationDate="2019-06-22T20:30:36.483" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18859" PostId="8594" Score="1" Text="Possible duplicate of [Criteria for a Martial Art to be considered as an olympic sport?](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/608/criteria-for-a-martial-art-to-be-considered-as-an-olympic-sport)" CreationDate="2019-06-23T14:41:05.530" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18860" PostId="8603" Score="0" Text="Related: https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/7869/why-is-there-no-sport-called-martial-arts-at-the-olympics" CreationDate="2019-06-23T14:44:19.093" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18861" PostId="9219" Score="4" Text="***This is terrible advice.*** Using violence to resolve this situation is unlikely to end well for either parties, potentially leading to escalations of threat, injuries, and legal repercussions. Bullying is a problem, not a solution." CreationDate="2019-06-24T13:12:21.490" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18864" PostId="9222" Score="3" Text="See a medical professional - its not generally wise to ask random internet strangers for advice on an injury!" CreationDate="2019-06-26T06:58:38.553" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18865" PostId="6585" Score="0" Text="I once did that during a grading in front of a japanese examiner, as a naive white belt, to the chagrin of my senpai." CreationDate="2019-06-26T10:14:59.103" UserId="8980" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18866" PostId="8973" Score="1" Text="Agreed. I once saw a girl got kicked down below. She was wearing a female groin guard. The rubber tip went inside her nether regions and tore it. She had to be carried to the hospital to be sewn back up." CreationDate="2019-06-26T10:16:55.157" UserId="8980" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18867" PostId="572" Score="0" Text="The military rank thing is interesting. Were the military ranks subdivisions of the more traditional belt ranks, or was it a completely orthogonal system? For example, could a student achieve first black belt by passing the standard tests but still be a Private because they were a lazy slacker who somehow could show up and pass the tests, or, alternately, could a student remain a white or yellow belt due to lack of specific skills or abilities but rise to the level of General by showing a lot of effort and hard work?" CreationDate="2019-06-26T22:55:32.390" UserId="9676" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18869" PostId="572" Score="1" Text="@RobertColumbia great question: my understanding is that the rank was completely orthogonal." CreationDate="2019-06-27T00:58:55.673" UserId="238" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18870" PostId="9223" Score="1" Text="I can name a particular TKD Studio i was at in California that allowed people to make appointments for testing. Is that sufficient for your question?" CreationDate="2019-06-27T01:58:02.340" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18871" PostId="9223" Score="1" Text="Not every martial art has belts, nor do all schools call their physical spaces dojos. If the school calls it a dojo, it probably has belts." CreationDate="2019-06-27T03:17:00.240" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18875" PostId="4807" Score="0" Text="I think some of what you described is accurate. In terms of the dangerous philosophy that Kung Fu almost gives you a spiritual edge in combat. This gives it's practitioners a false sense of superiority, so they don't train correctly. I find this stereotype to be perpetuated by disillusioned &quot;masters&quot; (some of them from China). However, the system of Kung Fu itself is still effective. There are some great teachers out there who are in touch with modern combat and will teach there students in this context. With the right teacher, Kung Fu can be as effective as any style." CreationDate="2019-06-27T14:00:28.583" UserId="10044" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18876" PostId="4807" Score="0" Text="@junfanbl You're defending all of kung-fu. That's a heavy weight on your shoulders. Here's the thing. There's a difference between training in fighting &quot;concepts&quot; and training how to fight. It's how you train that matters, not the style. And most TMA schools including &quot;most&quot; kung-fu schools simply don't train how to fight. They're conceptual martial arts. If your kung-fu school is a fighting school, fine. But know the difference. Here's a good video discussing it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I09xfAHv5fw" CreationDate="2019-06-27T16:37:52.780" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18877" PostId="9231" Score="0" Text="Is this a request for medical advice? Check [help]." CreationDate="2019-06-27T18:38:41.673" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18878" PostId="9231" Score="0" Text="I've removed your secondary questions to focus on the original primary question. You can ask the secondary questions as new questions. Also, please take the [tour](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour)." CreationDate="2019-06-27T19:36:12.180" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18880" PostId="9234" Score="1" Text="I don't think your comments about numerals/ordinals are entirely accurate - ichi, ni, san etc can mean 1, 2, 3 *or* first, second, third e.g. [二階から目薬](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E4%BA%8C#Noun) (**ni**kai kara megusuri)" CreationDate="2019-06-28T09:01:44.963" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18882" PostId="9235" Score="0" Text="Thank you very much, do you think I should wear any knee protection pads? Something like this - https://www.decathlon.in/p/8334535_mid-500-knee-brace-adult-black.html ? Also, I'm new to MMA, I have some Taekwondo experience, but that's about it." CreationDate="2019-06-28T15:01:53.070" UserId="10143" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18883" PostId="9233" Score="2" Text="Something basic I learned: In general, if you're fighting against a stronger opponent, stay away from his power hand's side. So if he's right handed, step to his left (your right)... Another thing I'll suggest: Don't flow. Don't create a rhythm at all. Then your opponent can see the pattern and predict what's coming. Timing is everything. Think about off-beat timing (half-beat timing, stop-hits, etc.). When you see your opponent begin to move, strike him back. He'll have to stop mid-way and think, which slows his response time and gives you an advantage. Basic stuff you might already know." CreationDate="2019-06-28T15:23:34.210" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18884" PostId="9231" Score="3" Text="Regarding close votes, I think this question is on-topic because it falls under &quot;Injury prevention within the context of martial arts training&quot;, which is [on-topic](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic)." CreationDate="2019-06-28T15:28:44.563" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18887" PostId="6898" Score="0" Text="https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/2020/junior-bjj-belts-transformation-when-one-becomes-adult https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/7258/if-im-12-and-a-white-belt-will-i-be-a-yellow-belt-when-im-18" CreationDate="2019-06-28T15:42:07.707" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18888" PostId="9234" Score="3" Text="@ukemi I'll readily admit that there are many subtleties of Japanese that I don't grasp, but I feel like the literal translation in that quote is &quot;floor two&quot;, not &quot;second floor&quot;. Because we translate it in a way that makes more sense in our language doesn't mean it's that way in Japanese. A good example of this would be how dates are given in different languages. For example, Americans would say &quot;May fifth&quot;, but the Spanish would say &quot;five of May&quot; (cinco de Mayo, and not quinto de mayo) and the French &quot;five May&quot; (cinq mai)." CreationDate="2019-06-28T15:46:23.390" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18889" PostId="9234" Score="2" Text="That's kind of my point - in different languages both cardinals and ordinals can be used to express ordinality. E.g. as you say in Spanish cardinals are always used for dates (except the 1st of the month), and are [almost always](http://lema.rae.es/dpd/srv/search?id=rqV8h362gD62vc21qB#8) used in place of ordinals generally as well, especially ones bigger than 10 e.g. *Luis XVI* is read *Luis dieciséis*, not *Luis decimosexto*. Likewise in Japanese, cardinals are sometimes used express ordinality e.g. 二番, 第二, 二世, 二番目, 二代目, 二着, 二級 etc. Or English e.g. WWII = World War Two = The Second World War" CreationDate="2019-06-28T16:13:54.417" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18890" PostId="9234" Score="0" Text="Just for clarification, the Kodokan itself translates *shodan*, [二段, 三段](http://kodokanjudoinstitute.org/activity/grade/) as [1st Dan, 2nd Dan, 3rd Dan](http://kodokanjudoinstitute.org/en/activity/grade/)." CreationDate="2019-06-28T16:28:12.577" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18891" PostId="9234" Score="2" Text="@ukemi Most of the Japanese speakers I know, when speaking English, have a tendency to translate dates as something like &quot;twenty February&quot;, even though they are otherwise familiar with ordinal numbers in English. I've always interpreted that as meaning Japanese dealt with dates in cardinals rather than ordinals. In Go, I also often see rankings translated as 1-dan (one dan) to 9-dan (nine dan), and almost never first dan to ninth dan, hence my initial answer. The Kodokan having greater international reach, they likely used a translation with which English speakers were more familiar with." CreationDate="2019-06-28T17:04:43.297" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18892" PostId="9236" Score="2" Text="This feels more like a rant then a question. &quot;This is why I will never go to a self defence class. Because you don't teach real world self defence.&quot; Now, I'm by no means claiming all classes/clubs which purport to teach send defense are effective, but I find it a bit strange you presume *none* of them are whilst simultaneously asking the martial arts community what they would advise tactically in a self defense situation." CreationDate="2019-06-29T06:56:00.977" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18893" PostId="9236" Score="0" Text="My rants are also passionate questions lol" CreationDate="2019-06-29T06:57:01.113" UserId="10146" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18894" PostId="9236" Score="3" Text="Running faster. It attacks the ego of the pursuing person. Seriously, without a balanced base you cannot exert force. And running **is** the best self-defense. You should train it. Or stand your ground. The premise that there are other sensible options is wrong." CreationDate="2019-06-29T11:04:44.243" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18895" PostId="9236" Score="0" Text="You have misunderstood my OP. I agree taht running is the best defence IF you can get away; the OP deals with the situation when running hasn't created a good outcome. This is exactly why I was unhappy with self defence instruction in the OP; not being open minded to other options. Sometimes you have to do something from a situation that is not ideal - I would argue with my suggested mrthod that with two shots you could get enough force." CreationDate="2019-06-29T12:02:42.090" UserId="10146" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18896" PostId="9236" Score="0" Text="Whoever downvoted it well good one I cannot have a high opinion of an industry that cannot take valid criticism." CreationDate="2019-06-29T12:03:46.357" UserId="10146" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18897" PostId="9236" Score="4" Text="The point is that either you are fast enough or you should realise it in time and get yourself into a good,  defensible position. Defending while running simply isn't a viable option. Self-defense should be about high-chance techniques where a lot of things can go wrong and they still work (this is why all this eye-poking,  pressure points triggering stuff is bad self-defense). There is no such thing while turning away/running/being out of balance by definition. Also,  expect downvotes when posting in bad style, especially when generalising." CreationDate="2019-06-29T14:05:20.657" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18898" PostId="9234" Score="0" Text="I'm not sure you can read into L2 speaker errors the way you are - just because an e.g. native Spanish speaker mixes up he/she in English (since Spanish is a pro-drop language) doesn't mean there isn't a concept of gender in Spanish. Sometimes languages use cardinals to express ordinality e.g. Player 1, Player 2. It's not correct to say nidan *doesn't* mean second grade/grade 2, and instead means two grade(s) - it's an ordering, not a collection. You don't 'lose' grades as you progress through the analogous kyu system." CreationDate="2019-06-29T14:08:05.227" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18899" PostId="9234" Score="0" Text="You're quite right that it is often said-as-written in the context of go (nidan &gt; 2-dan &gt; &quot;two dan&quot;) but this is pretty much what it appears - reading the transliteration literally as written, and it becoming a technical term. It's not an attempt to translate it into grammatically sensible English (i.e. &quot;second grade/grade 2&quot;), and you can't retro-engineer the role *ni* is playing from this, you need to consider the word as used in Japanese, where it is unambiguously playing an ordinal role (as in the kyu system, or school grade system e.g. 小学二年, 小二)." CreationDate="2019-06-29T14:17:12.943" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18900" PostId="4659" Score="0" Text="I know it's probably a tongue in cheek comment, but I don't think it's especially helpful to describe not wanting to get cuts/fabric burns as a 'wimpy' reason. Skin infections are by far the [most common injury in BJJ training](https://www.mdpi.com/2075-4663/5/2/39), to a degree much higher than in similar martial arts (e.g. judo). Reducing cuts and abrasions (in addition to the general reduction in exposed skin as you note) will also help reduce the chance of contracting an infection." CreationDate="2019-06-29T18:51:47.400" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18902" PostId="6983" Score="1" Text="404 Not Found :-(" CreationDate="2019-07-01T15:55:37.577" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18903" PostId="9242" Score="1" Text="This is not a live opponent:. It is a made for TV demonstration.  I cannot speak the language, but Uke is wearing a black belt as well.  He is being a &quot;good Uke&quot;.  I don't think this counts." CreationDate="2019-07-01T16:08:36.450" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18904" PostId="9242" Score="0" Text="He's a Karate black belt. That's disqualifying as well?&#xA;If that is a good uke to you, look closer. Sensei is having fun, but that guy definitely doesn't have a clue what's happening to him." CreationDate="2019-07-01T23:34:43.593" UserId="10149" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18905" PostId="9242" Score="1" Text="We will have to agree to disagree here.  From my vantage point this is a compliant demonstration.  Uke is not resisting." CreationDate="2019-07-01T23:44:10.850" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18907" PostId="9242" Score="0" Text="I believe the kind of resistance you're looking for would imply that the technique didn't work. I see the TV host trying to resist, and I see sensei adjusting for that, but sure, let's disagree." CreationDate="2019-07-02T06:51:49.970" UserId="10149" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18908" PostId="9242" Score="0" Text="Have you watched the videos in the other answers to this question?  Dave's video is &quot;alive&quot;.  Each of the videos I posted are alive.  The video Huw posted is not, and yours is not either.  The last video (currently at -1) which I posted especially shows what it looks like for someone to be resisting and then caught completely unaware." CreationDate="2019-07-02T12:35:29.713" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18909" PostId="9242" Score="0" Text="So you're looking for videos showing classical aikido techniques being applied but not looking like classical aikido techniques? To me, your viewpoint appears to be that in the video that's currently rated at -1 the guy in red doesn't look like he's resisting, he's just falling over -&gt; compliant :) I'll doubt you'll find what you're looking for, but that doesn't mean aikido doesn't work on non-compliant people.&#xA;This question has been online for almost 4 years, statistics imply that there's a 50% chance there won't be anything that pleases you within the next 4, yet I'm looking forward to it" CreationDate="2019-07-02T13:06:48.547" UserId="10149" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18910" PostId="9242" Score="0" Text="The video with the guy in red IS what I would call &quot;alive&quot;.  It does please me:  this looks like what Aikido could be if practiced in an alive manner." CreationDate="2019-07-02T18:24:19.320" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18911" PostId="9229" Score="1" Text="Great addition!" CreationDate="2019-07-03T00:10:47.193" UserId="1026" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18912" PostId="9242" Score="0" Text="I'll just note that &quot;alive&quot; is not in your list of criteria above, you only introduced it two replies up. Moving goalposts much? I take this to say that you're conceding the &quot;resisting&quot; part: if the technique works, there is no resisting. Just as in the video with the guy in red. Anyway, I just remembered seeing a video where a TV host tries to sucker punch an aikido master and pays for it. That should &quot;please&quot; you (new official goal of this site!), I'll see if I can find it once I can access my browser history tonight." CreationDate="2019-07-03T02:23:39.793" UserId="10149" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18913" PostId="9242" Score="0" Text="Heh, that was easier to find than I thought and it has more fun content than I remembered. I added the video to the post. I'm already bracing for the &quot;they suck at fighting&quot; responses." CreationDate="2019-07-03T02:38:18.310" UserId="10149" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18914" PostId="9242" Score="0" Text="Let us [continue this discussion in chat](https://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/95653/discussion-between-steven-gubkin-and-tobi-s)." CreationDate="2019-07-03T02:42:03.427" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18915" PostId="9244" Score="2" Text="We were trying to understand the reason for it." CreationDate="2019-07-03T04:37:58.303" UserId="6623" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18917" PostId="9244" Score="2" Text="Thanks. I added a few words how this relates to technique. Your question assumed that everybody sits with the left big toe on top, so I think it's pertinent that this assumption just expresses your teacher's (or their teacher's) preference." CreationDate="2019-07-03T06:55:49.847" UserId="10149" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18918" PostId="9233" Score="1" Text="@SteveWeigand Let me encourage you to write up an answer so I can give you some fake internet points…" CreationDate="2019-07-03T12:53:36.873" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18920" PostId="9247" Score="0" Text="Thank you for your answer. I always warm up before - but still incomfortable with my knees while stretching first way. Have found second way (sitting vertically while stretching) optimal for me. Question was a bit about another thing - about proper position for stretching - to avoid knees pain." CreationDate="2019-07-04T07:31:55.127" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18924" PostId="6080" Score="0" Text="Something this answer dances around, but does not mention directly:  many Martial Arts are, at least nominally, taught as a *discipline* rather than a *sport* - etiquette and behaviour being as important as the techniques. (In my Dojo, &quot;behaviour&quot; is **literally** one of the 8 assessment categories on the grading sheet, and failing it would fail your grading.)  By showing that they are incapable of maintaining the discipline or behaviour expected of the grade, the students are showing that they are no longer able to hold it - much like if they suddenly completely forgot how to punch." CreationDate="2019-07-04T16:25:47.390" UserId="9212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18925" PostId="9189" Score="0" Text="Are the splits the goal, or having stretches for good kicks? Depending on the type of kicks, the splits may not be necessary (though it does cover a fair range of kicking types).&#xA;&#xA;I have a series of stretches I practice every day for my kicks, but I personally can't do the splits, and find my kicking to be effective as is." CreationDate="2019-07-05T16:26:25.667" UserId="10142" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18926" PostId="9250" Score="1" Text="You sound crazy! I don't want to get in fights. I've started BJJ and in my comparison it's probably more practical for self defense. DZR is really fun and good too though." CreationDate="2019-07-06T00:12:57.047" UserId="9936" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18927" PostId="9164" Score="0" Text="The wikipedia article is interesting, it also gives an explanation for crossing the toes &quot;また、正座する際、足の親指はしびれを防ぐために時々重ねる場合がある&quot;, i.e. &quot;cross them to prevent numbness.&quot; Actually, the natural position for the big toes is pointing away from the other toes (visible with barefoot walkers). So if your toe is not realigned due to shoes, you might actually have to overlap your big toes. Illustration of what I mean here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barefoot#/media/File:(Left)_(B)_Adult_foot_that_has_never_worn_shoes,_(Right)_(A)_Foot_of_a_boy_who_has_worn_shoes_for_just_a_few_weeks._Plaster_casts.jpg" CreationDate="2019-07-06T07:37:41.670" UserId="10149" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18928" PostId="364" Score="1" Text="In the context of your point 2) and to climb a bit lower on the philosophy scale, it is perhaps worth pointing out that the Japanese 気合を入れる　_kiaio ireru_, literally &quot;to put kiai into it&quot; means &quot;to motivate oneself, to push oneself forward,&quot; and is an everyday word. So I propose this theory: a teacher said &quot;push yourself!&quot; and their students took that a bit too literally … :)" CreationDate="2019-07-06T10:18:00.010" UserId="10149" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18929" PostId="5825" Score="0" Text="I would point out that the technique in your video of the BJJ wristlock is a classic Aikido technique, called kokyu dosa (aka, sitting kokyuho).  I can't see if that really was a wrist lock or more of an off-balance a la kokyuho, but it's not hard to do a kokyuho with a wrist lock." CreationDate="2019-07-07T17:58:02.723" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18930" PostId="9251" Score="1" Text="You have very loose standards for what you consider the same technique. I don't want to go through them one-by-one and explain why they are different techniques, but out of those that I watched the only technique that I would consider the same as an aikido technique is the first one in the &quot;Aikido used in MMA&quot; video, kokyu nage (or sokumen irimi nage depening on naming scheme). An aside: there's lots of unforced violence in those police videos. When I see that kind of stuff I'm always happy that I don't live in the states." CreationDate="2019-07-08T01:45:05.360" UserId="10149" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18931" PostId="5825" Score="0" Text="@AndrewJennings He broke the guys wrist by pinning his palm against his chest, pinning his arm in place by grabbing behind his elbow with both hands, and bending forward to apply pressure to the wrist.  This has no relationship to the kokyuho that I learned." CreationDate="2019-07-08T03:05:29.003" UserId="6532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18934" PostId="9251" Score="1" Text="@tobi_s You have a very strict view of what is a technique. *All of them are applications of aikido techniques*. If you expect a perfect kata-like application, you fundamentally misunderstands the purpose of kata. Randori should teach you to apply kata if nothing else." CreationDate="2019-07-08T12:08:22.577" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18935" PostId="9251" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion I looked at the &quot;shiho nage&quot; again. Labelling it &quot;kote gaeshi&quot; would name a similar aikido technique. But looking at a few &quot;irimi nage&quot;s again, I can't help but wonder if you call everyhing where someone goes for the face &quot;irimi nage.&quot; (Mostly I see brutal cops, though.) If we take the premise of the question seriously, there should at least be something that resembles the basics. Look at the third video in my answer. That's a totally clean application of kote geashi." CreationDate="2019-07-08T15:57:45.240" UserId="10149" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18936" PostId="9218" Score="0" Text="Wonder if the javelin should be included alongside archery and shooting." CreationDate="2019-07-08T18:07:43.307" UserId="10157" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18937" PostId="9218" Score="0" Text="@johno ah I hadn't even considered that. I think it's not included in most lists of weapons/combat related sports because it's a distance event (like shot-put etc), not a precision/target one." CreationDate="2019-07-08T19:09:02.680" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18938" PostId="9133" Score="1" Text="More frustration on the classification of ude garami versus ude gatame: Techniques of Judo by Shinzo Takagaki and Harold (Hal) Sharp shows the ude garami arm configuration against a straight arm as ude gatame, not ude garami. Also amusing is that Hal Sharp appears to have posted the YouTube Kodokan Katame Waza video." CreationDate="2019-07-08T19:51:37.533" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18940" PostId="9258" Score="0" Text="Thanks Steve. Was just trying to do some &quot;martial arts genealogy&quot;. The Korean stuff is somewhat traceable, but I can't really find much at all before it." CreationDate="2019-07-08T21:02:39.173" UserId="10157" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18941" PostId="9256" Score="0" Text="There are four,  arguably five **groups** of similar pins or gatame (tate-shiho, yoko-shiho, kami-shiho, kesa, (kata)). Probably every pin can be classified as belonging to one of the *groups*, but surely there are loads of different, non-standard *pins*." CreationDate="2019-07-08T21:32:47.790" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18943" PostId="9251" Score="1" Text="I've seen differences in naming between schools.  Iriminage, tenchinage, and even sumi otoshi are distinct in some schools, not others.  When you enter into uke's space, that is generally the idea behind iriminage, and to facilitate that movement, an atemi to the face is often used, lending to the appearance we are going for the face.  I didn't want to get bogged down in the naming, though.  The techniques, whatever their names, are used in aikido." CreationDate="2019-07-08T22:55:55.487" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18944" PostId="9259" Score="2" Text="AFAIK there are are kami sankaku osae gatame and Tate sankaku osae gatame" CreationDate="2019-07-09T05:13:26.223" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18945" PostId="9256" Score="1" Text="My definition of standart here would be anything that belongs into any of the groups that Philip Klöcking listed." CreationDate="2019-07-09T06:16:27.903" UserId="9955" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18946" PostId="9260" Score="5" Text="There are too many scenarios for us to cover off them all - yes a martial art or self-defense system could help in this regard. Heightened awareness thus avoiding the situation being the number one idea, not being an easy target, and confidence to react.&#xA;Disarming someone with a weapon is very variable - but if there was a simple, effective fool proof defence against a weapon - people would stop using that weapon." CreationDate="2019-07-09T09:27:57.067" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18947" PostId="9260" Score="2" Text="I feel that a lot of what Brazilian Jiu Jitsu teaches is helpful in the &quot;a guy is on top of you holding you down&quot; scenario. But not my specialty, so leaving an actual answer to someone more informed." CreationDate="2019-07-09T12:30:23.747" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18948" PostId="2642" Score="0" Text="The [text](https://undocs.org/S/RES/502(1982)) of the UN SCR 502 has no mention to black belts whatsoever," CreationDate="2019-07-09T12:36:47.180" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18949" PostId="5825" Score="0" Text="I also didn't learn kokyuho in that manner as well; but I played around with it yesterday to see if it was at least possible.  So, a henka waza at least, from standard sitting kokyuho.  Normally, uke grabs nage's wrist or elbow (or nearby uniform/cloth) for this, but I see no reason the shoulder/lapel can't be grabbed - per the video - and in that case, it seems a wrist lock (and break?) seems possible.  So maybe I shouldn't have stated &quot;classic aikido technique&quot;, but more of a henkawaza from a classic aikido technique." CreationDate="2019-07-09T13:05:22.390" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18950" PostId="9260" Score="2" Text="Hi @stevemucci - I recommend you remove the line about weapon disarms and ask it in a separate question - asking about general self defense is already very broad, you're more likely to get an answer if the question is a bit more specific i.e. your penultimate line asking about techniques from the position of one person pinning you down." CreationDate="2019-07-09T13:34:18.707" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18951" PostId="9260" Score="0" Text="@ukemi that sounds fair, but there are still tonnes of different pins and different ways out of each pin that it would still be fairly opinion based (though all questions on here are to a degree). A specific pin would be better I think" CreationDate="2019-07-09T14:04:39.850" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18954" PostId="9262" Score="0" Text="Side note to this, while I agree that a lot of self defense videos are bad (and I love Dewey's deconstructions), they're often &quot;bad&quot; the same way Traditional Martial Arts and bar brawl advice can be. There's a good idea, but it's treated as magic too dangerous to practice against resistance and no follow-through is taught. Raking the eyes with nails, or punching the throat are not foolproof, but doing that and running..." CreationDate="2019-07-09T22:07:51.207" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18955" PostId="9262" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan Yeah, there's that (&quot;too dangerous to practice&quot;). But I think women's self-defense courses often give women techniques which simply don't work on a struggling attacker. Ramsey Dewey has a whole video series devoted to this. It's not that you just need to practice it with struggling opponents to get better at it. It's that you immediately realize it simply won't work at all with resistance. But the silver lining is that all/most of it will be completely forgotten anyway, since nobody retains anything they practiced a few dozen times and then never practiced again." CreationDate="2019-07-10T02:53:49.150" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18956" PostId="2622" Score="2" Text="I find it ridiculous that you call some other arts &quot;stupid&quot;. Every art has their strengths and weaknesses. There are situations where kung fu will work much better than BJJ and vice versa. It is a shame to see martial artists like you out there that speak badly about other arts instead of appreciating what each of them contributes to human life." CreationDate="2019-07-10T08:59:50.740" UserId="7678" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18957" PostId="9262" Score="0" Text="I'm extremely sorry for incuding the word bedroom in this conversation at all, I'll edit. Also the perspective of the child was interesting. Very informational and realistic." CreationDate="2019-07-10T12:10:34.323" UserId="10162" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18958" PostId="9252" Score="0" Text="Awesome response, and a great article link." CreationDate="2019-07-10T12:13:20.137" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18960" PostId="9264" Score="0" Text="This answer describes what is the same across taiji styles, but the question asks what is different." CreationDate="2019-07-10T15:28:12.823" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18961" PostId="9262" Score="0" Text="@SteveMucci No problem. I've removed my comment from the answer now that I see you've removed the reference to &quot;bedroom&quot;. I knew what you meant, though." CreationDate="2019-07-10T16:33:16.733" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18962" PostId="9272" Score="3" Text="The acceleration of the punch (from an inch away) is meaningless to the target - its the deceleration within the target that counts.. (if i'm hit by a baseball travelling 100mph - it doesn't matter whether the pitcher is stood next to me - or 20 metres away - its the deceleration of the ball during its impact with me - and subsequent acceleration of the part of me that got hit that is important - if it hit me somewhere soft it will slow down over a longer period of time than if it hit me somewhere solid and the force I receive will be lower)" CreationDate="2019-07-11T09:50:27.137" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18963" PostId="9272" Score="0" Text="@Collett89 Of course the damage is caused through the deceleration within the target, but acceleration is necessary for increasing the force applied from the punch, f=ma. And it is difficult to keep a high accelaration through a long distance because of the hindrances. That was my point. Or am I missing something?" CreationDate="2019-07-11T11:13:24.243" UserId="6654" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18964" PostId="9270" Score="1" Text="I feel like this is too broad, or too opinion-based, but maybe I'm not close enough to the problem." CreationDate="2019-07-11T12:04:58.557" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18965" PostId="9270" Score="1" Text="Hi @muaythai201 - I edited your title to clearer ask what I think is at the heart of your question. Please feel free to change it if I've misunderstood." CreationDate="2019-07-11T12:18:15.597" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18966" PostId="9269" Score="1" Text="Related question, not about knocking a person out: [How can I build striking power?](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/7881/5961)" CreationDate="2019-07-11T12:29:35.200" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18967" PostId="9106" Score="0" Text="point one having trained with Chinese masters for some time do not assume because they speak your language that they understand you. Always triple check your Shifu has understood you, this is very important when learning internal skills. The Chinese Wushu association in Beijing runs a duan wei grading system, 6th duan is master level, on the pre 2005/6 badges of grade the word Dan of Wushu was used.&#xA;Belts are not used. May be the reference to 6th Dan black belt was a way of communicating&#xA;the idea of grade, most people have not heard of the Duan wei." CreationDate="2019-07-10T16:50:46.070" UserId="10165" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18968" PostId="9272" Score="1" Text="I agree it is difficult to keep a high acceleration, but the overall speed of the &quot;tool&quot; at impact is what matters. So a lower acceleration for a greater time can give the same energy and force to the attack (the benefit of a short technique being a reduced reaction time for defender to block/evade). Intuitively - being hit by a car travelling at 30mph will hurt the same regardless of how long it took for the car the car to get to 30." CreationDate="2019-07-11T13:18:10.953" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18969" PostId="9272" Score="0" Text="@Collett89 OK I will try to edit and correct my answer, I hope I understood it. Thanks..." CreationDate="2019-07-11T13:49:26.763" UserId="6654" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18970" PostId="9270" Score="0" Text="Yeah, multiple ways to answer this. We don't do well answering broad, &quot;theory of everything&quot; kinds of questions. I would like to link to one of my answers, though, which talks about a small piece of the puzzle: https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/6498/defence-in-martial-arts-in-general/6501#6501" CreationDate="2019-07-11T18:03:40.127" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18971" PostId="8966" Score="0" Text="The GM Lee Kyu-Hyung videos were actually a WT/Dartfish production and were widely discounted as being inaccurate." CreationDate="2019-07-11T22:13:10.323" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18972" PostId="8966" Score="0" Text="Actually, just clicked the link - you're referring to a different set ALSO featuring GM Lee. However, the official set are the Kukkiwon ones (with GM Kang, Ik-pil, GM Lee, Chong-kwan etc in it)." CreationDate="2019-07-11T22:14:27.110" UserId="4385" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18973" PostId="9270" Score="0" Text="@steveweigand: I was really expecting more people to chime in..." CreationDate="2019-07-12T00:49:50.067" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18974" PostId="9275" Score="2" Text="As best I understand from the descriptions/videos you've linked, this is less a parry and more a &quot;after blocking, disarming the opponent&quot;. FWIW, we did something like that in my Bujinkan class several years ago, but magical thinking was pretty common there, and we never did any sort of free-sparring to prove the efficacy against someone who wasn't just doing the drill with you." CreationDate="2019-07-12T13:37:29.973" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18975" PostId="9275" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan I expect this to be a fictitious move but you never know where it came from and there might be something I do not know. After all, they build buildings filled of stuff I do not know: those are called libraries.☺" CreationDate="2019-07-12T13:50:50.297" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18976" PostId="9275" Score="3" Text="The closest I've found to a practical exploration of it is someone mentioning at https://www.reddit.com/r/martialarts/comments/osu9p/sword_vs_spear/c3juzsa?utm_source=share&amp;utm_medium=web2x the difficulty of actually knocking a spear downwards and keeping it down there. Most spear thrusts are quick in-and-out. Even if you parry it down, the spear-wielder will just pull back. The Bujinkan bit had to do with disarming someone after you'd grappled them to keep them in place." CreationDate="2019-07-12T14:02:28.220" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18977" PostId="9275" Score="2" Text="@SeanDuggan spear vs sword… Popular wisdom tells you sword will win yet in practice it's always the spear." CreationDate="2019-07-12T14:30:20.940" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18978" PostId="1530" Score="0" Text="Just to add to the variety: on a keyboard, type juujutu, and your PC will offer the correct kanji. There are alternatives for typing: jyuujutu, zyuujutu, plus replacing tu by tsu in the previous will all yield the same result. There's also jixyu or zixyu for the first syllable if you don't mind the additional keystrokes or  if you want a really unique name for your dojo …" CreationDate="2019-07-12T15:20:06.440" UserId="10149" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18979" PostId="9275" Score="0" Text="Like Sean Duggan mentioned, it's in Bujinkan, so probably it's in a classical ryu kata somewhere. The main strategy for fighting someone armed with a spear or a staff while you have either no weapon or a shorter range weapon is to evade quickly, and then rush in close. In close, the velocity of the tip of the staff/spear is no longer a danger. Then you have disarm techniques, of which stomping on it is A-OK, but like in the movie, you need to control the staff/spear at the end first before you can successfully stomp on it." CreationDate="2019-07-12T15:26:44.603" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18980" PostId="9275" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion: There's a fun test at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afqhBODc_8U in more or less live combat." CreationDate="2019-07-12T15:37:26.817" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18981" PostId="8966" Score="0" Text="Wait a sec... former president of Kukkiwon; holds a phd in phys ed; former head of the Korean National Taekwondo Demonstration Team for 32 years; head of olympic taekwondo demo team; team manager for first WT poomsae competition; former head of korean national children's taekwondo demo team; former head of korean national taekwondo demo team... and professor of Taekwondo Studies and Kyemyeng University.  And he co-authored the official Kukkiwon textbook and several other books.  And the videos he produced are discredited as inaccurate??" CreationDate="2019-07-12T15:51:53.590" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18982" PostId="9271" Score="0" Text="Maybe it would be worth adding that it is the inertia (acceleration + **deceleration**) which reaches the brain itself floating in your head which knocks you out. This, in turn, is, for the reasons you stated, only correlated to the force exerted by the punch itself, but moderated by many other factors (neck muscles play a huge role)." CreationDate="2019-07-12T15:53:08.167" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18983" PostId="9277" Score="3" Text="Some specificity would improve this answer." CreationDate="2019-07-12T19:33:46.783" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18992" PostId="9275" Score="0" Text="***Pretty please with sugar on top, could you answer the question and not write comments with partial answers. This is what is needed for this site to grow. Thank you kindly.***" CreationDate="2019-07-15T06:54:38.187" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18993" PostId="9275" Score="1" Text="@SeanDuggan I am indeed familiar with this video. It's great fun and does a fantastic job of dispelling myths. My only criticism is that they fight in an nice open field but not in forests, inside (spiral stair case?), or anywhere restrictive of one or both weapons. Which to be fair is a minor thing." CreationDate="2019-07-15T06:56:55.153" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18994" PostId="9278" Score="0" Text="Makes sense, thanks Sean." CreationDate="2019-07-15T13:10:28.147" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18995" PostId="9278" Score="0" Text="@AmorphousBlob: Not at all. :) I learned something in the process of reading up on it myself." CreationDate="2019-07-15T13:17:58.140" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18996" PostId="9283" Score="1" Text="&quot;You hit the person in the temple, cause damage to the blood vessels and eventually they die &quot; -- Hmmm, in answers to my question https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/7259/supposedly-potentially-deadly-techniques people discounted the lethality of this strike." CreationDate="2019-07-15T13:25:30.723" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18997" PostId="9283" Score="0" Text="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphenosquamosal_suture this is a suture they are weaker than other parts of the skull... I don't think the back hand strike would do it but a straight punch to the side might... Not that I recommend anyone actually trying this as I noted above" CreationDate="2019-07-15T14:47:55.150" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18998" PostId="9283" Score="0" Text="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphenoparietal_suture actually it's where this suture joins the above one" CreationDate="2019-07-15T15:03:53.010" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="18999" PostId="9283" Score="1" Text="@HuwEvans Again, it would probably need such an amount of punctual pressure that a) it is nigh impossible to call it a proper technique for self-defense purposes since the chances for success are so low due to too many variables (angle, knuckles only, movement) and b) this kind of pressure would produce serious injuries regardless the actual locus of impact and needs some kind of weapon to be produced in like 99.9% of the cases. I probably could kill a pinned person with hitting their temple (head on the ground), but seriously: Why should I, given other options?" CreationDate="2019-07-15T17:06:35.343" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19000" PostId="9283" Score="0" Text="Point being: **If** I am in a position to actually apply pressure point techniques in a street fight **then** my opponent is no real threat to me anyways because this is the only scenario in which I can reliably apply them. Therefore, I would find myself to be a bad martial artist (morally) and in a bad legal position if I actually applied them without actual need. Thus, they are not useful to learn for street fights." CreationDate="2019-07-15T17:12:13.300" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19001" PostId="9283" Score="0" Text="About the temple again... I've suggested it during self-defense drills as an option, as part of a defense against a front choke... left arm chops down fast to pin his arms against your chest, then right hook to the temple.  That would cause severe pain, while aiming for the jaw would be more problematic and not as effective for me, while a strike to the ear might cause permanent damage." CreationDate="2019-07-15T17:21:39.030" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19002" PostId="9283" Score="0" Text="This was actually my example of a useless pressure point. There are plenty of good ones. Mainly on the arm for grappling and on the neck for striking." CreationDate="2019-07-15T20:56:35.770" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19003" PostId="9283" Score="0" Text="The times we use it in SK... When a standing arm bar fails to result in a pin use the hand nearest the opponent's head to strike the temple in sango and yongo. @PhilipKlöcking" CreationDate="2019-07-15T21:00:23.463" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19004" PostId="9286" Score="0" Text="I'm not one of your downvoters, but I also didn't upvote just because this answer felt very generic. Other than mentioning Bruce Lee and Muhammad Ali, you could post this as an answer to just about any question. Sorry, but I figured I'd provide feedback. It's not bad advice, but it also doesn't feel like an answer to the question." CreationDate="2019-07-18T17:26:22.673" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19005" PostId="9286" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan Yes, it's deliberately short, and that was my call. The question was yes/no. It wasn't asking how to become like Bruce Lee. But if you went beyond the yes/no answer with a laundry list of things to try to become more and more like Bruce Lee or Muhammad Ali, I think you realize pretty quickly how complex the answer has to be, and that your answer really won't be sufficient. I saw that and dodged it, instead preferring to go above that and suggest that maybe you have to set realistic goals, and a small number of them. My answer to these kinds of questions." CreationDate="2019-07-18T17:49:36.560" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19006" PostId="9286" Score="0" Text="That's fair. :) You can keep my nullvote and it's lack of positive or negative imaginary points." CreationDate="2019-07-18T17:50:45.510" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19007" PostId="9286" Score="0" Text="It's all good. People want to hear what they want to hear. :)" CreationDate="2019-07-18T18:08:53.250" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19008" PostId="9295" Score="1" Text="I welcome any corrections to the translation here from anyone fluent in Japanese." CreationDate="2019-07-19T14:54:32.680" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19011" PostId="1520" Score="0" Text="Discussion of the etymology of the *jitsu* spelling on the Japanese SE: https://japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/69084/was-術-as-in-柔術-ever-pronounced-jitsu" CreationDate="2019-07-21T10:07:25.747" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19012" PostId="9300" Score="2" Text="Those arts as far as I am aware only exclude strikes for sparring/competition. Which means that only the competition side of things are affected - giving a different spectacle.&#xA;Are you asking why the competition rules for these arts exclude these strikes?" CreationDate="2019-07-23T07:42:38.777" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19013" PostId="9300" Score="0" Text="Really? Sorry for my nescience, I've never ever heard about that. Would you provide an answer? Or should I rephrase/remove question?" CreationDate="2019-07-23T08:02:30.380" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19014" PostId="9300" Score="1" Text="As far as I know, both karate and taekwondo do allow head strikes. Could you provide some reference for your claim?" CreationDate="2019-07-23T08:09:59.593" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19015" PostId="9300" Score="0" Text="I dive into sources and, in fact, @Collett89 was right - in ITF for example, there are no limit for hand strikes, as I've read. Question to close!" CreationDate="2019-07-23T08:18:55.450" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19016" PostId="9300" Score="3" Text="Why not write your own answer? It's encouraged in stack." CreationDate="2019-07-23T09:00:17.673" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19017" PostId="9300" Score="0" Text="Never thought about it, maybe you are right!" CreationDate="2019-07-23T09:02:08.527" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19018" PostId="9300" Score="1" Text="I am always right. Even when I am wrong. ☺" CreationDate="2019-07-23T09:38:44.587" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19021" PostId="9300" Score="0" Text="There actually is a valid question to be made about why head strikes with the hand are banned in some forms of karate / TKD / kung-fu in competition. There's also a tangentially related question that can be asked about why some martial arts teach people to use an open hand / palm strike to the face as a matter of preference, instead of a clenched fist. But those are different topics." CreationDate="2019-07-23T15:58:41.630" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19022" PostId="9304" Score="0" Text="What about when in a fight, would the goal change each round depending on my opponent's strategy or would that be distracting?" CreationDate="2019-07-24T06:09:00.277" UserId="10063" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19023" PostId="9304" Score="0" Text="You can change your goal per round or when the situation calls for it. Once you've calmed your mind, nothing can distract you, except the task at hand." CreationDate="2019-07-25T03:14:48.710" UserId="8980" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19024" PostId="9306" Score="0" Text="I disagree that the reason Taekwondo had no head punches was to distinguish itself from boxing in the Olympics. Since the 1980s (prior to Taekwondo  even becoming an exhibition sport in the Olympics); from the time Taekwondo was fought with no chest protectors and no headgear, head punches were never legal. I am referring to Taekwondo WTF" CreationDate="2019-07-25T03:18:52.257" UserId="8980" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19025" PostId="9305" Score="1" Text="Also (historically) the reason point-sparring was introduced was to allow different dojos a way to express their rivalries without, you know, **killing each other**.  Head strikes can be very dangerous, so it makes sense to exclude them under the same strictures.  (Kyokoshin karate, of course, is well known for regularly using full contact knock-down rather than point-sparring)" CreationDate="2019-07-25T11:11:06.673" UserId="9212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19026" PostId="9301" Score="0" Text="*&quot;I understand in Kumite (sparring) taller people are at an advantage because their shorter opponents cannot reach in to them easily&quot;* - on the other hand, in Point Sparring, a shorter, faster opponent will be trying to close into a range where a &quot;clean&quot; (i.e. *scoring*) technique is harder to achieve.  At the various international tournaments that I have been to, there hasn't been a visible correlation between height and success." CreationDate="2019-07-25T11:35:41.520" UserId="9212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19027" PostId="9306" Score="0" Text="Taekwondo had to distinguish itself from any other sport in the Olympics, that is an absolute requirement for any sport.  Two similar sports would have to be classified either as an event under a generic umbrella (skating and gymnastics are examples), or else they are so different that they are different sports.  Punching to the head comes up all the time, and it did when entering the Olympics.  WTF decided to *continue* to ban it so as to more distance itself from boxing as well as to encourage kicks.  This we know from Rio when the point system specifically changed for this purpose." CreationDate="2019-07-25T14:17:54.827" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19028" PostId="9306" Score="0" Text="It is a small nuance, I think; but Karate will be thinking about the same issues.  IDK what their ruleset will be, I haven't been following them much lately.  With the inclusion of kata, they don't have to worry too much about the sparring.  If they didn't have kata, then sparring will have to appear different not only to boxing, but as well, it will have to appear different to taekwondo." CreationDate="2019-07-25T14:23:48.897" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19029" PostId="7983" Score="2" Text="https://www.academia.edu/14995625/Jujutsu_Judo_and_Jiu-jitsu_A_Historical_Comparison_of_Terms" CreationDate="2019-07-26T11:17:50.800" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19030" PostId="5547" Score="1" Text="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edith_Margaret_Garrud" CreationDate="2019-07-27T19:19:38.053" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19033" PostId="9311" Score="0" Text="Given this has happened repeatedly and the symptoms have persisted for a few days I'd suggest going to A&amp;E to get checked out. It sounds like you may have concussion." CreationDate="2019-07-28T15:46:39.420" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19034" PostId="9140" Score="0" Text="I also wouldn't be surprised if there's a long term benefit from repeated training in how to fall properly. How many head injuries result from people tripping and hitting their head?" CreationDate="2019-07-28T19:57:49.323" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19035" PostId="9191" Score="0" Text="This throw is referred to as *ma-sutemi-nage* in an article on ju-jitsu in this volume of [*Transactions and proceedings of the Japan Society*](https://archive.org/details/transactionsand00londgoog/page/n26) (1892)" CreationDate="2019-07-29T13:55:17.957" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19037" PostId="6808" Score="0" Text="Careful here, as your results will likely vary significantly based upon the mass of the object being struck.  Light (low mass) objects are difficult to impart a high amount of energy to, as the deformed material can reach &quot;the speed of the punch&quot; pretty easily.  For one absurd example, there is extremely little energy transferred to punching 'air'.  Likewise, an extremely dense object (like a large lead brick) will not absorb much kinetic energy either (that will go into breaking fist bones and other deformations of the hand).  Start and keep a consistent mass." CreationDate="2019-07-29T22:48:53.003" UserId="10192" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19039" PostId="2662" Score="0" Text="Last paragraph says it all. Very good answer" CreationDate="2019-07-30T09:13:46.510" UserId="10194" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19042" PostId="3000" Score="1" Text="Just to clarify, [下腹](http://dict.asia/jc/下腹) (したはら *shitahara*) is a word in Japanese, meaning &quot;lower abdomen&quot;, and does occasionally occur in technical descriptions of throws in [Japanese](https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/隅返) and [Chinese](http://www.klnjudo.com/judo-awareness/else/judo-article-3.htm) [texts](https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=CHhBTwEUkmoC&amp;pg=PA463&amp;lpg=PA463&amp;dq=下腹+柔道) on Judo, but purely as an anatomical term." CreationDate="2019-07-30T12:53:44.193" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19045" PostId="9317" Score="0" Text="Agreed. You can respect beliefs, but not adopt them where it doesn't affect your training. I'm the same way when someone in the gym starts talking about their special workout blend, or someone at the foot of the *roda* needs to make warding gestures before entering. Heck, one could include the purification rituals in Sumo." CreationDate="2019-07-30T15:00:26.230" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19046" PostId="9318" Score="4" Text="Note that a single study is a pretty weak argument. Studies get contradicted all the time, they are just the first step towards better understanding. -- The other problem with your idea is that the link between testosterone level and physical performance is pretty much unproven - again, studies that confirm it and studies that find no connection. Anyway, a one-day testosterone level high is not going to affect performance much. -- My personal take would be that being well-rested is more important. If ejaculating helps getting a good night's sleep, it's a good idea." CreationDate="2019-07-30T16:01:23.667" UserId="10199" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19047" PostId="9318" Score="0" Text="@toolforger everything in your comment is basically true. I've tried it and definitely seem to feel more energized and focused. I just wanted to share this to make OP aware that there are potential benefits of abstaining from ejaculating in the short term, if even just for several days. Regular good sleep and eating right also boost testosterone. Just living as healthy lifestyle as possible is the best path forward whether he wants to try semen retention or not." CreationDate="2019-07-30T16:14:46.613" UserId="10197" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19053" PostId="9318" Score="1" Text="&quot;[…] 28 volunteers were investigated daily […]&quot; this is a tiny sample size thus statistically irrelevant and there was no control group whatsoever. This &quot;study&quot; is not worth the paper it is printed on." CreationDate="2019-07-31T07:02:10.647" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19054" PostId="9306" Score="0" Text="I have never seen any non sanctioned Taekwondo events that allow head punches. Mind to share?" CreationDate="2019-07-31T07:04:26.943" UserId="8980" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19062" PostId="9314" Score="1" Text="If you don't do it yourself (through intercourse or masturbation), [your body will release semen automatically](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocturnal_emission#In_males) anyway." CreationDate="2019-07-31T09:41:10.537" UserId="10207" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19066" PostId="9306" Score="0" Text="I compete in them once or twice a year, and I ref them as well.  Sometimes they're open tournaments, so not exactly proper to call these &quot;taekwondo events&quot;, but in these, and in those where only taekwondo-in compete, we often allow head punches.  This is more prevalent in ITF style tournaments (the distinguishing element is the hyung).  About 6 months ago we had a tkd tournament that allowed head punches for adults only, continuous sparring, and ko allowed.  So they do exist, but I wouldn't say that it is common." CreationDate="2019-07-31T10:18:55.610" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19070" PostId="9313" Score="1" Text="I haven't found anything substantive one way or another, although there is a lot of speculation." CreationDate="2019-07-31T14:01:17.457" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19073" PostId="9312" Score="0" Text="In my experience - neck cranks are NOT allowed in BJJ, and chokes that could crank the neck are likewise now allowed (e.g. guillotine without an arm)." CreationDate="2019-07-31T14:17:32.523" UserId="10210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19075" PostId="9314" Score="0" Text="[Sexism tag on meta…](https://martialarts.meta.stackexchange.com/q/583/82)" CreationDate="2019-07-31T14:49:02.967" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19076" PostId="9284" Score="0" Text="Are there any &quot;vital areas&quot; where a slap would be more potent than a punch? I can't think of any. Also it's really, really hard to put anyone out by covering their mouth. The setup for that is incredibly difficult. The only person in my memory that ever pulled it off was Vagner Rocha" CreationDate="2019-07-31T15:39:45.203" UserId="10214" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19077" PostId="9284" Score="0" Text="Covered mouth... I wasn't thinking of the hands particularly, only that covering the mouth/nose, such as with a pillow/clothing, or water, would be the more likely scenarios.  It all depends on the environment, which is why you always need to have a backup plan." CreationDate="2019-07-31T16:02:10.750" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19078" PostId="9284" Score="0" Text="Slap v punch, that's another matter.  I think in most cases a slap would not be as effective in the context of a vital area strike, the only possible exception *might* be a groin strike, and then viability might be determined by your positioning relative to the opponent.  And the eyes.  They're well protected from a punch, but not so much from a poke (which I agree is not a slap).  But the point being that a punch is not the end-all-be-all." CreationDate="2019-07-31T16:03:59.993" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19079" PostId="9284" Score="0" Text="ah ok that makes sense" CreationDate="2019-07-31T16:08:05.047" UserId="10214" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19084" PostId="9132" Score="0" Text="It would be good to summarize that the difference between Judo and Wrestling (or any type of grappling) is the set of rules.  Rule dictate the goals and available techniques." CreationDate="2019-07-31T17:06:37.507" UserId="10210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19088" PostId="9316" Score="1" Text="Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been [moved to chat](https://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/96864/discussion-on-answer-by-sardathrion-is-semen-retention-an-important-thing-in-mar)." CreationDate="2019-07-31T17:48:29.890" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19089" PostId="9320" Score="2" Text="This doesn't answer the basic question about arthritis." CreationDate="2019-07-31T17:57:16.447" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19090" PostId="9320" Score="2" Text="Do you have a source for this?" CreationDate="2019-07-31T18:01:14.333" UserId="1253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19091" PostId="9273" Score="0" Text="Muhammad Ali was known for the rope-a-dope, specifically against George Foreman.  I think you wrote that part backwards." CreationDate="2019-07-31T20:18:21.660" UserId="10210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19092" PostId="9273" Score="0" Text="@Paul You are right. I got confused." CreationDate="2019-07-31T20:58:57.057" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19093" PostId="9318" Score="0" Text="Even if it does increase testosterone levels, how does that affect your martial arts performance and/or skill? Everyone has different levels of testosterone. There's no reason to think it matters at all when learning a martial art. It might improve recovery and may increase muscle mass over time. That is mostly irrelevant to gaining skill in martial arts. And if you want more muscle, go ahead and lift weights." CreationDate="2019-07-31T21:19:15.443" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19097" PostId="8000" Score="0" Text="There are *many* such treatises: e.g. https://smallswordproject.com/historic-texts/ http://www.thearma.org/manuals.htm" CreationDate="2019-08-01T10:12:15.130" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19099" PostId="8941" Score="0" Text="Steve and Sard... um... it's humor, not a serious plan." CreationDate="2019-08-02T12:55:54.573" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19101" PostId="8941" Score="0" Text="Best pick a martial art that is proven to work and relies more on technique than on strenght, speed, explosiveness. At the moment I can only think of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, where an experienced guy can subdue an opponent that doesn't know the techniques." CreationDate="2019-08-05T15:55:20.183" UserId="9690" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19104" PostId="9329" Score="0" Text="Being that this is a very universal kind of throw, it could have come to Judo from multiple different sources at multiple different occasions to multiple different judoka. There doesn't need to be a single source. And I think your evidence shows that is the case. I don't think this is a case of revisionist history, if that's what you might suspect, as a way to de-emphasize the non-Japanese origins of the technique. The answer is probably all of the above." CreationDate="2019-08-07T17:12:44.850" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19105" PostId="9331" Score="3" Text="You don't kill them! Haha. You do need to assess the situation and figure out if it's safe to stay there in control of him while waiting for police to arrive. Tapping is only for cooperative partners. In real life, the situation dictates what you do." CreationDate="2019-08-07T17:51:29.793" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19106" PostId="9331" Score="1" Text="I argue that, as a morality question, this is essentially opinion-based. There is no universal &quot;black belt protocol&quot; to appeal to, and it's highly situational." CreationDate="2019-08-07T18:50:00.873" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19107" PostId="9331" Score="0" Text="@Sean Duggan, yes there is because most martial arts teach some surrender method. Most use a tap method. Explain why you would NOT HONOR my tap if you are the superior fighter? Secondly morality is not an opinion based system of thought  as you believe. Based on all true premises that are related to the conclusion a moral argument will have to be true if all the premises were true as well ." CreationDate="2019-08-07T19:06:44.897" UserId="8964" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19108" PostId="9331" Score="0" Text="While there are many opinion-based answers to this question, I think a &quot;legal&quot; argument could be made as to why certain responses are legally, if not morally, better. For example, Canadian law allows the use of minimal required force to end threats to yourself, meaning that you are legally obligated to keep your attacker alive unless it's the only way to end the threat. An applicable answer could thus be &quot;Canadian law allows me to keep restraining you until law enforcement comes to the scene if I believe it to be the safest course of action&quot;. I don't think this question needs to be closed." CreationDate="2019-08-07T19:57:50.733" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19109" PostId="9331" Score="0" Text="On the other hand, I do believe the question could be rephrased a little to make it clearer what constitutes an interesting answer." CreationDate="2019-08-07T19:59:53.423" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19110" PostId="9332" Score="7" Text="Why would you want a hand like this? Do you hate your hand? Did your hand do something bad, and now you have to punish it? Haha. No, seriously, if you do this to your hand to become more &quot;powerful&quot;, 1) the &quot;power&quot; you get from this is useless without a delivery system (which requires pressure testing), and 2) your hand can become permanently damaged, even though the iron palm trainer gives you some special jow linament he says will prevent it (it won't). This is one of many martial arts concepts that should be abandoned." CreationDate="2019-08-07T21:11:55.557" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19111" PostId="9334" Score="4" Text="That's Northern Shaolin Iron Palm kung-fu. You can google for it and him and find the answers all on your own." CreationDate="2019-08-07T21:16:00.090" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19112" PostId="9333" Score="0" Text="Thanks for your answer. However, you did not address if YOU are the black belt and you are CLEARLY leagues above ME as the attacker are you obligated to accept my tap out?  If NO is your answer please express why.  You being the superior fighter can basically have your way with me.  The issue is NOT about you being hurt but the attacker being outclassed in such a way an honorable warrior can’t take my life away now.  Hell if a woman attacked you the same way is your answer the SAME?  Is there a double standard here that is NOT being mentioned?if the attacker was a Child is the answer the same?" CreationDate="2019-08-08T01:15:43.880" UserId="8964" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19113" PostId="9333" Score="2" Text="@Logikal In most civilized countries, _you_ tapping out could be interpreted in a court of law as a sign of surrender, and _him_ killing you in that scenario would likely no longer constitute self-defense. However, there is no moral nor legal obligation for him to fully release you if he truly believes this would put him, or others, in danger. As long as the force used to end the threat is &quot;reasonable&quot;, he's OK as far as the law is concerned. If the attacker was a woman or a child, the answer stands unchanged, though what constitutes &quot;reasonable force&quot; might have a lower threshold." CreationDate="2019-08-08T02:42:45.130" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19114" PostId="9333" Score="1" Text="@Logikal I have answered it. You seem to want to invent really abstruse situations to fit whatever mental pictures you have of martial arts. That's not the way stack exchange works (or martial arts for that matter)." CreationDate="2019-08-08T04:58:08.107" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19115" PostId="4949" Score="0" Text="I recommend you post your second query (about standard sizes of gis) as a separate question in order to get an answer to it. Stack Exchange is built on the premise of asking [one question per post](https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/222735/can-i-ask-only-one-question-per-post)." CreationDate="2019-08-08T12:50:06.313" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19117" PostId="9332" Score="0" Text="I didn't hate my hand but I want to improve my power of my hand" CreationDate="2019-08-08T18:42:04.037" UserId="10117" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19118" PostId="9332" Score="2" Text="Then find a good boxing instructor who can give you the tools needed to punch with power and to be able to land those punches on a resisting opponent. The type of training that results in damaging your hand is only going to hurt you. It's worse than useless. A good boxing gym will condition your hands to take impact, and will do so without the need for damaging your hands." CreationDate="2019-08-08T20:01:02.753" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19119" PostId="9337" Score="1" Text="https://youtu.be/E7OFJjhGSX4" CreationDate="2019-08-08T23:46:51.670" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19122" PostId="8398" Score="0" Text="They are meant to hold up the pants, and to keep the top down. If it can do that, it doesn't really matter its condition." CreationDate="2018-06-24T21:34:49.030" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19123" PostId="9284" Score="0" Text="@AndrewJennings IMHO that the slap gives you extra reach and impact surface but these are mitigated by the force dispersion (a fist is more compact so more force is transferred to target). This being said, the only real advantage of a slap surface (not a flat hand thrust forward like a direct punch) would be aiming the ears, the goal would be to make the ear drums explode/hurt. And for the reach advantage, I don't see how a slap can overcome the strength of a fist. Best way to use an open hand/fingers is to aim at soft spots (eyes, throat, clavicle hole, inside cheek etc.)" CreationDate="2019-08-09T15:14:31.490" UserId="10253" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19124" PostId="9340" Score="2" Text="@ukemi I don't understand why there is more concern with the jaw from this versus the leg sankaku or other chokes. The obvious advantage of this choke is that the osaekomi pin clock is running even if the choke is not successful." CreationDate="2019-08-09T17:14:03.430" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19126" PostId="9342" Score="3" Text="Not a bad question. Truthfully, there are very few martial arts you can't do with your size. How is your flexibility? What do you want to get out of martial arts? Is it for getting stronger? Deadlier? To pick up Karate chicks? Do you have strong feelings on striking versus grappling? Do you want to learn how to fight rather than how to perform? And what martial arts are available in your area?&#xA;&#xA;There's a good for asking these questions at https://martialarts.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/506/a-good-martial-art-recommendation-question-guidelines." CreationDate="2019-08-09T19:25:28.127" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19127" PostId="9335" Score="0" Text="Thanks.  Which exercises did Gu Ru Zhang?" CreationDate="2019-08-09T19:49:50.773" UserId="10117" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19128" PostId="9335" Score="1" Text="@ДмитрийПетров: I linked the ten forms above. Is that what you want?" CreationDate="2019-08-09T20:07:55.420" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19133" PostId="8202" Score="0" Text="Well, it depends how fast you can run. ;D" CreationDate="2019-08-12T12:20:45.277" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19134" PostId="9343" Score="2" Text="Why do you want to copy a heavy bag workout? It's just a lot of jabs and crosses, with some hook shots thrown in here and there. What purpose do you think will be served by memorizing someone else's workout?" CreationDate="2019-08-12T14:19:26.817" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19135" PostId="9337" Score="1" Text="If you have two questions, then please ask **two** questions, not one." CreationDate="2019-08-13T06:29:25.970" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19136" PostId="9348" Score="0" Text="Related: https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/9256/is-there-a-pin-in-judo-that-cannot-be-classified-as-a-standard-pin https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/4818/do-pins-in-judo-have-to-be-standard-pins" CreationDate="2019-08-13T10:04:26.163" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19137" PostId="9349" Score="2" Text="Just as a reference - an ELO rating of 800-1200 is very entry level (White belt to mid colored belt range). 800 really means you know about how the pieces move. 1200 you have a basic idea of tactics/strategies and maybe the first couple moves of a few openings. 1800 is getting into decently high territory, you have a good grasp of a lot of tactics/strategies, know quite a few openings at a high level and have several openings at a very deep level (2-4th degree black belt range)." CreationDate="2019-08-13T12:40:21.627" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19140" PostId="2300" Score="0" Text="I guess in BJJ everyone smokes pot first as it makes your joints more flexible and you can fall better." CreationDate="2019-08-13T20:14:53.323" UserId="10259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19141" PostId="302" Score="0" Text="@ZeroPhase I have seen serious sprains, dislocations, and even a collapse lung at normal training sessions. I have seen more sever injuries in competitions. The risk is very real." CreationDate="2019-08-14T06:24:31.080" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19153" PostId="7744" Score="0" Text="You will likely find every submission on BJJ also in d old judo text by a different technique name from BJJ. This may not be 100 but darn it it is over 80 percent true. A difference is that BJJ skipped belt color syllabi originally. That is white belt beginners are learning brown belt judo techniques &amp; are good at doing them. The triangle choke is called sankakyu which you must be a brown belt just to learn. There is your reason BJJ is effective. Same is true of Green Berets , navy seals,etc. Advanced fighting techniques were taught successfully early ." CreationDate="2019-08-14T17:14:33.550" UserId="8964" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19159" PostId="9190" Score="0" Text="Related: https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/9238/origin-of-kawazu-gake https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/9329/origin-of-kata-guruma" CreationDate="2019-08-15T13:12:43.830" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19161" PostId="9238" Score="0" Text="Related: https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/9329/origin-of-kata-guruma" CreationDate="2019-08-15T13:13:45.670" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19165" PostId="9354" Score="2" Text="Not quite reliable, but the comments at this link says Judo forbid wrist locks since 1899, with the formation of the first set of competition rules: https://www.reddit.com/r/judo/comments/7iqb20/were_wristlocks_ever_a_part_of_judo/" CreationDate="2019-08-16T17:05:57.387" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19166" PostId="9335" Score="0" Text="I want to make my hands stronger like Gu Ru Zhang hands. Advice me which exercises do I need to do?" CreationDate="2019-08-17T10:19:36.810" UserId="10117" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19168" PostId="9360" Score="4" Text="A diagram or photo would really help show what you mean." CreationDate="2019-08-22T09:20:13.297" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19169" PostId="9351" Score="2" Text="Avoidance and running away are underrated self-defence strategies!" CreationDate="2019-08-22T09:25:55.150" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19170" PostId="9362" Score="0" Text="Maybe even more relevant is that recovery and healing takes longer as you get older. Add to that the optics due to reduced recovery when your champions are limping and nursing broken limbs months after their fights and angry editorials about &quot;nursing home fight clubs&quot; and I doubt you'd have an easy time with sponsors." CreationDate="2019-08-22T18:07:22.643" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19171" PostId="9362" Score="1" Text="@SeanDuggan Recovery is longer as you age, yup. Thing is, though, martial arts in general is a barren desert past about age 30. And 30 year olds aren't &quot;old&quot;. So to answer the original question of why we don't see seniors in MMA, the answer is just lack of interest, competing priorities, and biology." CreationDate="2019-08-22T19:05:04.120" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19172" PostId="9362" Score="0" Text="This doesn't sound right.  I know a great many martial artists in their 40s.  I also know a few in their 60s where are taking this data from?" CreationDate="2019-08-22T19:06:55.620" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19173" PostId="9362" Score="0" Text="^_^ Funnily enough, Capoeira, which I'm in, tends to be kind of shaded towards either children or people in their 30s and above. The &quot;wasteland&quot; is actually around high school or so, when people start getting into school sports and clubs (and girls) and suddenly run out of free evenings." CreationDate="2019-08-22T19:09:04.547" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19174" PostId="9362" Score="1" Text="@HuwEvans I don't think anyone argued that 40, 50, and 60 year olds can't be found in martial arts. I'm arguing that 40 year olds are more rare than 30 year olds, 50 year olds are more rare than 40 year olds, and 60 year olds are more rare than 50 year olds. Etc. As age increases, martial arts participation decreases on average." CreationDate="2019-08-22T19:20:09.593" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19175" PostId="9362" Score="0" Text="Well not round my area.  I trained for years and the average age in the club was about 45.  It depends on the style the club... Really fundamentally it depends what you call a martial artist.  If you call them a martial artist after less than 1-2 years training then yes mostly teenagers.  That's a rather narrow view though." CreationDate="2019-08-22T19:26:40.983" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19176" PostId="9362" Score="1" Text="@HuwEvans That's why I said &quot;in general&quot; and &quot;on average&quot; many times. There are always local exceptions, statistical aberrations. If all you know about martial arts is what you've seen at the Senior Center down the street, you might conclude 1) Tai Chi is the only martial art, and 2) Only old people do martial arts. But take a random sampling of lots of different martial arts, and the age trend I described will be seen." CreationDate="2019-08-22T19:48:30.507" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19177" PostId="9362" Score="0" Text="@Steve Weigand Will it?  How do we know?" CreationDate="2019-08-22T20:22:02.543" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19178" PostId="9362" Score="0" Text="@HuwEvans Yes, we know with absolute certainty." CreationDate="2019-08-22T20:24:05.687" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19179" PostId="9362" Score="1" Text="@HuwEvans Also, I'm not sure why you believe people with just &quot;1-2 years training&quot; are not martial artists. Anyone who does martial arts is a martial artist in my opinion. But the definition of &quot;martial artist&quot; really is irrelevant to the discussion. We're talking about people who are in martial arts schools. I used the words, &quot;competitors&quot;, &quot;participants, and &quot;practitioners&quot;. I don't think anyone mentioned &quot;martial artists&quot;. This seems to be another straw man argument you're making." CreationDate="2019-08-22T20:31:14.677" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19180" PostId="9363" Score="3" Text="Why does he do axe kicks? Just because he **can** :)" CreationDate="2019-08-23T03:49:46.993" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19182" PostId="9361" Score="2" Text="I can't think of *any* highly physical sport that has champion-level athletes in their 60s, why would you expect MMA to be any different?" CreationDate="2019-08-23T15:07:43.370" UserId="10288" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19183" PostId="9361" Score="0" Text="So self defense is say an athletic ability?  So when you hit 77 yrs old you will just hand over your wallet?  Or is there a way to use techniques at any age?" CreationDate="2019-08-23T15:10:44.330" UserId="8964" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19184" PostId="9361" Score="0" Text="I know that judo at least has a veterans category of competition, where they are age bracketed in 5 year increments from 30-35, 35-40, ..., 75-80. But surely you understand why it's extremely unlikely someone highly accomplished in a sport in their 40s or older is not going to be able to compete with the best in the world in their 20s?" CreationDate="2019-08-23T15:36:23.510" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19185" PostId="9361" Score="0" Text="@ukemi, I want to understand why the old guy having the same technique knowledge is unable to apply it to the younger guy with the same knowledge.  This makes martial arts only about health and fitness. This also hints at the animal kingdom where might makes right which wins 90 percent of the time. Are people suggesting that an 80 year old has no shot at self defense against a well experienced younger opponent?" CreationDate="2019-08-23T15:51:54.567" UserId="8964" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19186" PostId="9361" Score="0" Text="Most combat sports are segregated into sex and weight categories. This is because the peak athletes at a certain weight will through their physical advantage generally be superior to the peak athletes at a much lower weight. Similarly, peak male athletes at a certain weight will be stronger than the peak female athletes at the same weight. Do you see how age is a similar factor here, that peak athletes over e.g. 40 will be less physically capable than peak athletes in their late teens and 20s?" CreationDate="2019-08-23T16:18:11.217" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19187" PostId="9367" Score="2" Text="I've been practicing karate for decades, now, and while every dojo I've been to had heavy bags, only one practiced tameshiwari. Breaking boards feels much more &quot;tae kwon do&quot; than &quot;karate&quot; to me, though I'll admit that tae kwon do is often lumped in with karate for many people. I like the question, however, and I hope someone with experience in both boxing and karate can chime in!" CreationDate="2019-08-23T19:52:04.863" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19188" PostId="9361" Score="1" Text="Your comments are taking your question more towards [Can a trained 60 year-old outfight an untrained 20 year-old?](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/8941/5961)" CreationDate="2019-08-24T01:57:01.700" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19189" PostId="9361" Score="0" Text="@Matt, my intention was not who fights better the young guy or the old guy. The focus should be on the techniques in the art. Why cant the 80 year old apple a hip throw for example on the 24 year old experienced fighter. What does age have to do with technique.   I am sure Rickson Gracie can arm bar me. He is pretty old. Will he lose his skills?" CreationDate="2019-08-24T03:09:06.380" UserId="8964" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19190" PostId="9361" Score="1" Text="Your question as posed is about *competing*, in which case people are inherently fighting against the best in their region, or even globally at the highest levels, at a sport. As such, younger, fitter, stronger competitors are going to have the advantage against older competitors with a similar or even superior level of technical ability." CreationDate="2019-08-24T13:20:38.577" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19191" PostId="9372" Score="1" Text="'cake' like 'kek' or 'kejk' ?" CreationDate="2019-08-26T08:37:55.580" UserId="9020" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19192" PostId="9367" Score="0" Text="Maybe if you switch &quot;breaking boards&quot; with *makiwara* in your question, it will be stronger." CreationDate="2019-08-26T13:22:03.923" UserId="10293" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19193" PostId="9311" Score="0" Text="Maybe you were dehydrated?" CreationDate="2019-08-26T14:31:38.890" UserId="10293" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19194" PostId="9372" Score="1" Text="I'm not sure what is kejk&#xA;but the &quot;cake&quot; ending sound of cake connects to the pronunciation of kuen" CreationDate="2019-08-27T05:25:58.983" UserId="8980" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19195" PostId="9367" Score="0" Text="The stereotype of karateka only breaking boards is incorrect. We use punching bags too. Board breaking are for tests and demonstrations only" CreationDate="2019-08-27T05:28:44.277" UserId="8980" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19196" PostId="9371" Score="0" Text="What &quot;continued without 1972&quot;? ('in' 1972? 'until' 1972?). The last paragraph also feels like a rant against non-kukkiwon styles of TKD; it doesn't help highlight differences between poomsae and hyungs." CreationDate="2019-08-27T08:20:46.327" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19197" PostId="9262" Score="0" Text="+1 For mentioning Ramsey" CreationDate="2019-08-27T09:33:53.637" UserId="10293" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19200" PostId="9373" Score="0" Text="The question is &quot;what&quot;, and you have answered &quot;why&quot;." CreationDate="2019-08-27T13:27:49.173" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19201" PostId="9373" Score="0" Text="@mattm I think I have answered &quot;both&quot;, if something is unclear I can update my answer." CreationDate="2019-08-27T13:29:29.297" UserId="9020" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19202" PostId="9373" Score="0" Text="What form should the asker practice without a partner? Shadowboxing (a non-specific exercise without a partner). If that is your &quot;what&quot;, it's not helpful." CreationDate="2019-08-27T14:15:51.897" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19203" PostId="9374" Score="0" Text="This really looks like a badly done aigamae ate (or irimi nage) from Aikido!!!" CreationDate="2019-08-27T14:18:50.227" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19204" PostId="9373" Score="0" Text="@mattm First of all, there are only &quot;solo&quot; forms in Wing Chun (he could easily google that info, and how they are named ... so I think that is not what the question is about). Secondly, he asked how he can drill moves without a partner, and shadowboxing is a very valid, if not the best, answer for this part of his question, that I believe is his main question. Additionally, to be honest, the accepted answer contains 0 information for the OP. I practice WC for more than 10 years now, so I know what I talk about." CreationDate="2019-08-27T14:39:59.043" UserId="9020" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19205" PostId="9375" Score="2" Text="I find it maddening that you can win a world championship with illegal techniques despite instant replay. But it's not the first time and probably won't be the last; after Gerbi won with her choke, there was a black belt who instructed her choke the next class before we decided this was in fact illegal and then received further rule clarifications." CreationDate="2019-08-27T15:59:24.897" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19208" PostId="8941" Score="4" Text="@AmorphousBlob Even if it were humour (which I seriously doubt), it is not funny. Threatening physical harm to someone because they disagree with you is thuggish behaviour which should be condemned whatever &quot;it's just a joke&quot; retroactive pathetic excused is used." CreationDate="2019-08-28T07:17:54.867" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19211" PostId="9361" Score="1" Text="@Logikal: fighting is definitely an athletic ability. Have you ever even watched an MMA match? Given roughly similar technical skill, being able to hit hard, muscle the other guy around, absorb a punch, and push a pace for five minutes without gassing is absolutely essential. You cannot count on ending the fight with the first technique you land, and if you're not in peak shape, that's the only chance you may get before running out of gas and getting mauled." CreationDate="2019-08-28T08:19:40.030" UserId="9630" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19214" PostId="9351" Score="0" Text="Kevin, I also strongly recommend NoNonsenseSelfDefense.com... read and reread the various pages until it sinks in." CreationDate="2019-08-30T13:12:44.823" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19215" PostId="9378" Score="0" Text="Whilst Jiu Jitsu might be a good choice for protecting your hands - completing the recommendation with talk of an artist who is missing fingers seems to portray the opposite (Did he lose them doing Jiu Jitsu?? - perhaps clarify this in the answer). &#xA;Krav Maga recommendation is solid - states the recommendation and reason as to why well.&#xA;Welcome to the site" CreationDate="2019-08-30T14:00:24.547" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19216" PostId="9378" Score="1" Text="@Collett89 Jean Jacques Machado was born with this disorder." CreationDate="2019-08-30T14:06:11.733" UserId="10308" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19217" PostId="4396" Score="0" Text="&quot;while your &quot;hands are your livelihood&quot; the fact is someone trying to hurt you bad enough you need to fight back means you've got things like your life, or perhaps brain damage or hospitalization on the line, all things which will affect your livelihood just as much as a broken bone in the hand would.&quot; I think the concern is injuring OP's hands during regular training, not in the event they would use it in real life" CreationDate="2019-08-30T18:19:26.887" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19218" PostId="9378" Score="1" Text="Finger injuries in BJJ are common: https://www.bjjheroes.com/bjj-tips-for-fighters/fingers-injuries-prevention-and-treatment-explained. Hand injuries are not only from striking." CreationDate="2019-08-30T19:15:39.943" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19219" PostId="4395" Score="0" Text="I'm no expert but couldn't you avoid full-contact kumite and make sure you wear padded gloves in training and pretty nearly eliminate most risks?" CreationDate="2019-08-31T16:30:20.930" UserId="7906" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19220" PostId="9343" Score="0" Text="To look cool. I'm new to boxing. I also think those combos are effective to train hand speed. I can't just throw like a complete idiot at the gym. Better copy a good boxer." CreationDate="2019-09-01T02:40:52.547" UserId="5964" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19221" PostId="9343" Score="0" Text="I would like to know the reason for a downvote." CreationDate="2019-09-01T02:41:22.860" UserId="5964" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19224" PostId="9383" Score="0" Text="Please clarify what &quot;could pursue in a manner more less of that of an able-bodied person&quot; means to you. Your condition obviously puts you at a disadvantage to able-bodied people, but it's not clear what you would find acceptable." CreationDate="2019-09-05T20:50:43.167" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19225" PostId="9383" Score="0" Text="my bad - i see how that can be vey ambiguous. I guess I mean, I would like to learn the art of BJJ... not how to roll around and flail and call it something it's not. I don't know if I could be in a class with other beginners or how far that could even go. What kind of criteria would an instructor base that on... or would it automatically be a necessity for an &quot;adaptive&quot;, -on-1 kiNd of thing... if there even was someone willing to train me?" CreationDate="2019-09-05T21:07:14.690" UserId="10325" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19226" PostId="9384" Score="2" Text="Thanks Steve. From your response I get the feeling you absolutely get where I'm coming from. And competition is 100% important to me but working my a** off to see results is of far greater importance. so thank you for your wisdom and candor!" CreationDate="2019-09-05T21:17:39.447" UserId="10325" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19227" PostId="9361" Score="0" Text="Why are there no premiership footballers over the age of 60?" CreationDate="2019-09-06T10:17:11.433" UserId="10194" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19228" PostId="9387" Score="2" Text="Further reading: [Be Inspired By Ronald Mann, The Person Behind The UAEJJF’s Para Jiu-Jitsu Tournament](https://www.jiujitsutimes.com/inspired-ronald-mann-person-behind-uaejjfs-para-jiu-jitsu-tournament/) | [The First Para Jiu-Jitsu Athlete To Be On A Fight To Win Pro Card Will Compete Tonight](https://www.jiujitsutimes.com/first-para-jiu-jitsu-athlete-fight-win-pro-card-will-compete-tonight/) | [The Adaptive Fighter Series: Brandon Ryan](https://www.jiujitsutimes.com/adaptive-fighter-series-brandon-ryan/) | [Para-Jiu-Jitsu Magazine](http://www.ijjwlf.com/)" CreationDate="2019-09-06T17:58:43.600" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19229" PostId="9387" Score="2" Text="Reddit threads: [Beginner Tips- Adaptive Jiu-Jitsu?](https://www.reddit.com/r/bjj/comments/233dly/) | [Pete McGregor Does Adaptive Jiu Jitsu...](https://www.reddit.com/r/bjj/comments/81h57m/) | [I was recently asked if there are any disabled-only divisions or tournaments out there in the BJJ world...](https://www.reddit.com/r/bjj/comments/8ow4wa/) | [Jiu-Jitsu with cerebral palsy](https://www.reddit.com/r/bjj/comments/9iepev/) | [Amputee Jitsu](https://www.reddit.com/r/bjj/comments/cda1jz/) | [Help with techniques for paraplegic friend](https://www.reddit.com/r/bjj/comments/7elmtu/)" CreationDate="2019-09-06T18:03:33.460" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19231" PostId="6835" Score="1" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because this question is not within scope as defined in the [Help Centre](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help). I think a better suit might be the [Interpersonal Skills Stack Exchange](https://interpersonal.stackexchange.com/)." CreationDate="2019-09-06T20:00:35.187" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19232" PostId="8390" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion it's frequently misattributed to Kano, but the actual source appears to be a 19th century sermon: https://history.stackexchange.com/questions/46825/source-of-quote-attributed-to-kanō-jigorō-it-is-not-important-to-be-better-tha" CreationDate="2019-09-07T09:13:25.560" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19235" PostId="9379" Score="1" Text="The person who taught this armlock to me studied with John Anderson (RIP); this is what I learned. I'm amazed by what you can find on YouTube these days." CreationDate="2019-09-07T14:38:44.830" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19236" PostId="8390" Score="0" Text="@ukemi Many thanks indeed. Does that read better?" CreationDate="2019-09-09T07:20:23.190" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19237" PostId="9387" Score="1" Text="@ukemi I would add all those comments to the main answer as comments tend to be deleted and all those are useful references." CreationDate="2019-09-09T07:22:01.937" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19239" PostId="8722" Score="1" Text="Any suggestions for practising physical literacy, etc.?" CreationDate="2019-09-09T10:52:10.660" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19240" PostId="9217" Score="0" Text="e.g. non-standard pin: [Daria Bilodid 2019](https://www.judoinside.com/judovideo/79875/Daria_BILODID_UKR_Urantsetseg_MUNKHBAT_MGL_U48_World_Championships_Tokyo_2019)" CreationDate="2019-09-09T12:30:01.390" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19242" PostId="7789" Score="1" Text="I've been working through Saulo Ribeiro's [Jiu-Jitsu University](https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Jiu_Jitsu_University.html?id=xL2ROQAACAAJ) and have found it quite helpful, as someone coming from a judo background. Techniques are introduced in five progressive sections: survival, escapes, the guard, guard passing, and submissions." CreationDate="2019-09-09T21:17:00.377" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19243" PostId="6853" Score="0" Text="please clarify what level of roundhouse kick. lower, middle, upper?" CreationDate="2019-09-10T03:53:55.770" UserId="8980" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19247" PostId="9343" Score="0" Text="@ΗλεκτρολόγοςΜηχανικός Down votes are anonymous for good reasons, mostly to avoid abuse being thrown about. It is more or less trivial to spot what the boxer does provided that you have a limited amount of knowledge of boxing. If you do not, you should not attempting to mimic this workout as you might get injured. Note that I have not downvoted you, so it's just guesses. As far as I can tell this is not a bad question (no down vote) but neither is it a good one (no up vote). It might be improved by asking how to get those skills in the first place or about similar workouts for beginners." CreationDate="2019-09-10T12:10:28.217" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19248" PostId="4718" Score="0" Text="Flashlight is a lousy tool, unless it comes with interesting extras" CreationDate="2019-09-10T12:37:29.993" UserId="10293" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19252" PostId="9402" Score="3" Text="FWIW, when I teach holds in general, one of my maxims is that without being uncomfortable up to the point of tapping for uke, it is a bad hold. In tate-shiho position, I found it more effective to have my feet under uke's lower back and my hara on uke's arm/head, both for constriction/putting weight on them and for getting my hips off of theirs (less instable)." CreationDate="2019-09-11T09:11:42.473" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19253" PostId="9403" Score="0" Text="Downvoter, please explain." CreationDate="2019-09-11T11:54:19.020" UserId="10293" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19254" PostId="9403" Score="1" Text="Downvoters do not have to explain their down vote. This is a feature and not a bug." CreationDate="2019-09-11T12:19:43.490" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19255" PostId="8253" Score="1" Text="The best way to practise falling, is to practise falling - if you have access to a tatami area or soft ground, you can practise these exercises:&#xA;&#xA;[How to do Judo breakfalls - Judo basics](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n_Qjeia2n8) (Beyond Grappling)" CreationDate="2019-09-11T12:48:08.397" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19257" PostId="9403" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion That's why &quot;please&quot; is present." CreationDate="2019-09-11T13:49:13.567" UserId="10293" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19258" PostId="9404" Score="0" Text="This is both quite interesting and very frustrating. The statement &quot;Ude-hishigi-te-gatame was given penalty as it was considered as an attack to Uke’s shoulder&quot; seems to indicate 1. that this should not have been penalized, 2. that it was not an attack on the shoulder, and 3. shoulder attacks should be penalized." CreationDate="2019-09-11T15:54:01.147" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19259" PostId="9404" Score="2" Text="Someone with authority needs to write down in clear, declarative sentences what is legal and why." CreationDate="2019-09-11T15:56:49.177" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19260" PostId="9406" Score="1" Text="Incidentally, the same term is used for a diagonal sword cut in some circles of Kenjutsu." CreationDate="2019-09-11T18:58:08.097" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19261" PostId="9408" Score="0" Text="Whilst this may or may not be true - a reference to an official source - or an explanation of how one could find this out would be beneficial." CreationDate="2019-09-12T06:48:58.147" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19262" PostId="8253" Score="0" Text="That's an instructive video. People might miss this comment; you should promote your comment to an answer." CreationDate="2019-09-12T08:03:41.200" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19263" PostId="1208" Score="0" Text="According to [their website](http://morgantijujitsuklerksdorp.co.za/cms/history/), Morganti claims he learned jiu-jitsu his father, who learned from from one of the Ono Brothers (Yassuiti Ono or Oninho (Naoiti Ono)). If true this is indeed a separate lineage from those of the Gracie brothers." CreationDate="2019-09-12T08:20:41.420" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19266" PostId="9408" Score="1" Text="NY is not a &quot;stand your ground state&quot; but you do have a right to self defense with justification. It's covered under [Penal Code 35](http://ypdcrime.com/penal.law/article35.htm) - This answer is false." CreationDate="2019-09-12T13:49:41.247" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19271" PostId="9348" Score="1" Text="[IJF Refereeing and Coaching Seminar 2019: Day 1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73rPADP4zNY&amp;t=18000), (5:07:00) crucifix-like position not osaekomi because control is from beneath/beside uke, not 'on top'." CreationDate="2019-09-12T15:44:26.973" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19273" PostId="9409" Score="0" Text="Depens on your location. But chances are, if you're near a large metro area, you'll find some classical jujitsu schools. Classical jujitsu is the phrase I use for any jujitsu that originated prior to the Meiji Restoration period. So these would be schools that originate in Samurai ryu. In fact, many JJ schools just go by their &quot;ryu&quot; name. You might consider Bujinkan. I had positive experiences with it. It's a collection of 9 classical ryu, 6 samurai and 3 ninja. Their &quot;ninja&quot; stuff is almost non-existent compared to their classical jujitsu stuff. It's a fun school." CreationDate="2019-09-12T16:01:29.287" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19274" PostId="9409" Score="0" Text="Another thing to add. Classical jujitsu ryu often incorporate striking and weapons training. It's not just unarmed grappling. FYI. If you're expecting an empty-handed version with just grappling, it might be harder to find." CreationDate="2019-09-12T16:03:05.213" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19280" PostId="9133" Score="0" Text="@mattm even Neil Adams refers to armbar *ude-garami* as an *ude-gatame*: [Grand Prix Zagreb 2017 | 78kg | Hamada vs. Camara](https://youtu.be/OpNbN5ko52I&amp;t=2920)" CreationDate="2019-09-13T13:23:53.393" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19281" PostId="9141" Score="0" Text="History of the Grading System, Mike Callan" CreationDate="2019-09-15T14:21:29.040" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19282" PostId="9409" Score="0" Text="https://hakkoryu.com/ I believe there are a few others but this one comes to mind." CreationDate="2019-09-15T15:41:06.923" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19283" PostId="9418" Score="1" Text="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanō_Jigorō#Jūjutsu" CreationDate="2019-09-16T21:18:10.720" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19284" PostId="9284" Score="1" Text="@TecHunter - yes, agreed.  Also, a slap can be warranted when a punch isn't.  If your intention is to slow someone down without injuring (eg, a physical confrontation with a drunk, or a family member), a slap can stun or distract, or can be a set up for something else.  Sometimes, leaving a mark can get you in trouble (think, child protection services).  A slap has less chance leaving a mark, and also, use of a light punch can still get you more legal trouble than it's worth.  But in real combat, reach would be a good example; or to strike to the side where a punch couldn't reach" CreationDate="2019-09-16T21:26:47.450" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19286" PostId="9420" Score="0" Text="Possible duplicate of [How to wash leather shin guard?](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/8575/how-to-wash-leather-shin-guard)" CreationDate="2019-09-17T18:43:04.090" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19295" PostId="7725" Score="2" Text="According to [Japanese Wikipedia](https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/グラウンドポジション#スイープ), sweeps from guard (&quot;reversals&quot;) are known as *kaeshi* in Judo. It lists a number of specific names for different sweeps, though I don't know how long these terms have been in use in this context or how widespread/canonical they are." CreationDate="2019-09-19T08:40:50.217" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19296" PostId="9426" Score="1" Text="Your first point is a fair one, and why I only included examples of techniques I could see being taught systematically in the early 20th century, as opposed to later techniques by individual judoka which may not have a direct history (e.g. [&quot;the Gerbi choke&quot;](https://www.patreon.com/posts/evolution-of-22292882)/Peruvian necktie)." CreationDate="2019-09-19T10:07:17.397" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19297" PostId="9426" Score="1" Text="I suggest that closed guard (in the bottom position, legs closed around opponent) is far less developed in sport judo than open guard. Closed guard is basically a stalling position in judo, whereas open guard allows you to progress fast enough to satisfy referees. When a Japanese instructor visited the US club where I train, his basics groundwork instruction for kids started from open guard." CreationDate="2019-09-19T12:58:30.727" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19298" PostId="9426" Score="0" Text="@mattm: okay, that may be the case - I had not seen that with the judoka I used to train with, but my experience is possibly not be representative. So what is the focus of open guard work in Judo? Rapid passing to a pin? And to what extent are sweeps and submissions from the back trained?" CreationDate="2019-09-19T13:27:17.180" UserId="9630" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19299" PostId="9426" Score="1" Text="Top: pass to pin or disengage&#xA;Bottom: sweep to pin, choke, or armlock; these are simply the judo ways you can win on the ground. &#xA;Good judo mat players are familiar with playing from the guard. I would estimate this is ~20%. This is not, however, a requirement for rank (in the US at least), so many can get by without developing their groundwork. It's also not necessary to play judo internationally; you can see horrid groundwork at major tournaments." CreationDate="2019-09-19T15:34:01.863" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19300" PostId="8844" Score="1" Text="The problem with this (and the OPs question) is that if you don't practise a martial art that involves hard sparring (like Judo), there's no way to prove how effective it is! This is why you don't see Wing Chun, Krav Maga or Tai Chi 'masters' fighting in MMA. Martial Arts (legitimate ones) are inherently hard on the body." CreationDate="2019-09-19T16:21:07.967" UserId="10194" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19301" PostId="9421" Score="0" Text="FWIW, I did a chat with Ringside's support to see if they had any cleaning instructions or do/don'ts and they were far less informative than Steve: they stated they don't have deep cleaning instructions and the advice given was &quot;wipe down and try dryer sheets or pet odor remover&quot;, which was kind of disappointing for manufacturer support." CreationDate="2019-09-19T19:38:19.620" UserId="9427" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19302" PostId="9421" Score="1" Text="Not sure why they suggested using dryer sheets. They won't do anything to clean your gear. And yes, you do need to do at least a surface cleaning (soap and water) after they come in contact with other people, to avoid transmitting fungi, bacteria, and viruses. Especially if there's blood or saliva on them. Same with your gi and belts, for those in martial arts." CreationDate="2019-09-19T19:47:52.277" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19303" PostId="9421" Score="0" Text="+1 for the wipe down tip. I always wipe them down after a workout just for the stray sweat alone, even though the closest these pair gloves come to people is mitt work." CreationDate="2019-09-19T19:59:48.947" UserId="9427" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19304" PostId="9421" Score="1" Text="As for the dryer sheet, I guess it's to try and cover the smell, but in a smell fight between cat pee and dryer sheets, my money would be on the cat pee." CreationDate="2019-09-19T19:59:53.600" UserId="9427" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19305" PostId="9429" Score="0" Text="CPR success rate are pathetically small (around 2-5%) but better than being dead. Those odds jump to around 80% with an AED. Source: St John Ambulance." CreationDate="2019-09-20T07:28:16.503" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19306" PostId="9428" Score="1" Text="What's the racionale behind this rules?" CreationDate="2019-09-20T07:29:46.810" UserId="9366" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19307" PostId="9428" Score="0" Text="In my experience, this has never happened. No one at a tournament has ever asked me for proof of rank or for proof I've spent the minimum time at the previous rank. It might be in the rule book, but tournaments claiming to follow IBJJF rules certainly don't have the capacity to do this." CreationDate="2019-09-20T08:52:10.480" UserId="10194" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19308" PostId="9429" Score="0" Text="`&quot;This is a somewhat different situation to someone who has been choked.&quot;` Indeed, but some texts mention different methods used for different situations e.g. drowning. I was curious if there was any recording of one of these techniques being used in the same way as the Heimlich Maneuver, but couldn't find any further information. `&quot;CPR is not remotely the similar to any of the techniques described.&quot;` Do you really not see how compressions of the abdomen with the fist to revive someone is a similar method to CPR? (Note I was referencing the chest compression aspect of CPR, not mouth-to-mouth.)" CreationDate="2019-09-20T11:01:49.997" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19309" PostId="9429" Score="0" Text="The heart is not in the lower abdomen. This is not CPR." CreationDate="2019-09-20T12:09:28.707" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19310" PostId="9429" Score="1" Text="@sardathrion Yes Indeed These kappo techniques are for people who would probably survive anyway without assistance. CPR is really for much more serious problems. You probably would not even attempt CPR in the case of say a strangle. The heart would be beating the person would be breathing... The standard medical approach would be to put the patient in  the recovery position." CreationDate="2019-09-20T12:11:58.863" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19311" PostId="9429" Score="2" Text="Uhm...this doesn't answer the question. This goes on about CPR and testicle strikes, but does not address the basic question &quot;did jujutsu invent the heimlich&quot;." CreationDate="2019-09-20T13:33:50.313" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19312" PostId="9429" Score="1" Text="I said in the question that the technique described seemed *similar*, but anyway. There are forms of CPR where the abdomen **is** compressed (which can be more effective than traditional CPR): [OAC-CPR](https://news.uns.purdue.edu/x/2007b/070905GeddesCPR.html) [IAC-CPR](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4644036/) etc. Doctors have described several of the *kappo* techniques as similar to CPR (and the Heimlich Manoeuvre): [1](https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=bvOAsOYI1DsC&amp;q=kappo+resuscitation) [2](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0196064484803820)" CreationDate="2019-09-20T13:40:38.553" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19313" PostId="9429" Score="0" Text="@JohnP Indeed, but this was too long for a comment." CreationDate="2019-09-20T14:28:39.447" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19314" PostId="9428" Score="1" Text="They might not check it. But think about this. If someone sees you wearing a purple belt at one tournament, and then you show up somewhere else in a blue belt, people are going to notice that. They might wonder if you're competing as a blue belt even though you're a purple belt. Or they might expose you as a fake purple belt. I don't know if you've seen the youtube videos of fake BJJ black belts being exposed, but when it happens, it is seriously bad. You might get told by your instructor never to come back, and your rank stripped. You may not find an instructor who will take you after that." CreationDate="2019-09-20T15:08:04.980" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19315" PostId="9430" Score="0" Text="Awesome! So the more you practice most martial arts the greater the chance of injury each year.  And 'major' injuries in learning martial arts long term is about 15 times more likely than the chances of being assaulted.  I hope SE can now appreciate that 'self defence' is a really bad reason for learning a martial art.  Not that there are not plenty of good reasons...  Just that self defence isn't one of them." CreationDate="2019-09-20T15:21:27.713" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19316" PostId="9430" Score="0" Text="@HuwEvans for what it's worth I thought this was a good question, I'm not sure why it was so poorly received. I think a lot of the explanations on the [meta post](https://martialarts.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/466/why-do-people-want-to-close-my-questions-about-assault-injuries) could have been incorporated into answers to the original question here. I'm trying to find more info to flesh out this answer, but almost all studies I can find are specific to the efficacy of self defence training for female victims of sexual assault." CreationDate="2019-09-20T15:38:12.080" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19317" PostId="9369" Score="0" Text="Pretty much my explination exactly. Basically, yes, but things (like all things) change. Strength and speed become less important, and strategy, experiance, and subtlty come to the forefront." CreationDate="2019-09-20T23:42:36.750" UserId="10142" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19320" PostId="9434" Score="0" Text="Thank you, Steve. I don't have the benefit of grappling training to draw from, and in fact, I'm not part of a club or school at all right now. I treat katas as an exercise and art form, relying on the occasional shadow boxing to keep perspective on its stylization. Even as an art only, however, it should be done with intent, which is not possible when the superficial understanding of a move's purpose just seems off. I will keep in mind your interpretation and try to insinuate it into my thinking during the kata." CreationDate="2019-09-22T20:49:50.497" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19322" PostId="9434" Score="0" Text="I haven't yet gone through all your interpretations, as it takes some imagination and mental experimentation. For the moment, it's not clear how my left hand twists the opponent's hand that has grabbed my lapel. Without abandoning the hand positioning in the kata, I can see no twisting motion that seems to be available once my left hand goes over and across to grab the opponent's hand. Also, for the case in which he s behind and his left hand grabs my right shoulder, I would be locking his elbow against my neck. I'll try to free up the imagination to see what possibilities i might have missed." CreationDate="2019-09-22T23:40:51.667" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19323" PostId="9434" Score="0" Text="BTW, in the kata, in response to an opponent's left hand grabbing your right side lapel, there is no pivoting counterclockwise to get the left side away from the opponent. So if that is the scenario for this move, then the move is just a fragment of the complete combination. Not that it's wrong, just that it's not ideal in missing a key opening move in the response." CreationDate="2019-09-22T23:48:15.980" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19324" PostId="9434" Score="0" Text="The &quot;twisting&quot; motion I mention in my bunkai for the hand that you're grabbing is very subtle and natural. It's actually somewhat unnatural for there to be no twisting motion here. But the twist doesn't really matter all that much. It's just an additional thing you could do. The major point is pulling that hand to your other side. It doesn't have to release his grip. The kata shows that motion, which implies that you will get it to release as you do this technique (perhaps only after the elbow break). The twist that you can do is just going to be 20-45 degrees at most. Don't fixate on it." CreationDate="2019-09-22T23:57:01.903" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19325" PostId="9434" Score="0" Text="You don't lock his elbow across your neck in the scenario from behind. You turn sideways to him while pulling his hand across your chest. Then there's nothing obstructing it. As soon as you feel him pulling at your shoulder, you get that hand captured and begin to pivot towards him. He's about to pop you in the face, so you need to be on auto-pilot and just dart out towards him and push your arm out at the same time while pulling his hand. It will stop his punch from happening. If you do get punched, at least you can take it from there, because you maintain control of his hand...." CreationDate="2019-09-23T00:05:56.123" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19326" PostId="9434" Score="0" Text="... And again, the release is not the most important thing there. As for the lapel grab, do you mean if he grabs you with the other hand? In my bunkai, his left hand grabs your right lapel. If his right hand grabs your right lapel, you would apply the same technique, but using the other side of your body. So you pivot clockwise instead of counter-clockwise. And you grab his right hand with your right hand instead. What matters is which arm of his is extended out." CreationDate="2019-09-23T00:09:08.720" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19327" PostId="9434" Score="0" Text="I added a video link to the answer. You can get the gist of the elbow break part of it here at 1:40 (his 5th elbow break) : https://youtu.be/mgkL8y5DryQ?t=99 ... He doesn't show the throw with it, but look where his legs are: Right behind him. All you do is push him over those legs while maintaining control of his arm." CreationDate="2019-09-23T00:18:54.570" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19328" PostId="9434" Score="0" Text="Steve, thanks for the link to the video.  Cool how you dialed the&#xA;precise instant in the footage into the URL.  That arm bariring was&#xA;in fact was I was picturing for the case that the guy's left hand&#xA;grabbed my right lapel, though I imagine that it would be hard to pull&#xA;his hand across to my left nipple because his muscles will be all tense&#xA;and his elbow likely bent.  This a a differencce that I imagine between&#xA;the lapel grab versus what is shown on the video." CreationDate="2019-09-24T01:15:18.277" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19329" PostId="9434" Score="0" Text="As for the other case of a guy behind me and off to the right, grabbing my (right?)&#xA;shoulder with his left hand, I do see that if I manage to pull&#xA;his hand across my chest, it prevents him from striking with his&#xA;right hand. I just imagine that pulling his hand off&#xA;might be hard. But these kind of things need to be&#xA;experimented on with a partner. Looks like I'll have a pale shadow&#xA;of proper muscle memory development by imagining the application&#xA;during a kata. I appreciate the time you've spent explaining it&#xA;nevertheless." CreationDate="2019-09-24T01:15:30.670" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19331" PostId="1947" Score="1" Text="This doesn't answer the question. As you yourself say previously the style was to wear jackets right over left, but a change occurred in society at some point. This change was stipulated in the [Yōrō Code](https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=GLsbxozhjV8C&amp;pg=PA133&amp;lpg=PA133&amp;dq=yoro+clothing+code) of 718, where the left over right style is described as being modelled after the Chinese fashion." CreationDate="2019-09-24T07:32:01.403" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19333" PostId="9438" Score="1" Text="I remember this one confusing me very much as a child, as &quot;strangle&quot; always sounded more like cutting off air supply, although it made more sense if you imagine someone choking on their food, which would cut off their air, but not compress the bloodflow." CreationDate="2019-09-24T11:04:12.803" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19335" PostId="2730" Score="0" Text="**Note:** the video in question is an advertisement for a product (taser) designed to incapacitate even the 'strongest and most resistant' of persons, and the demonstrations of chokeholds are staged to show off said person's 'toughness'." CreationDate="2019-09-24T14:10:26.050" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19336" PostId="9438" Score="1" Text="I agree there are distinct blood and air mechanisms for chokes/strangles. I disagree that the terms choke and strangle are used in any consistent or systematic way to distinguish between the blood and air mechanisms." CreationDate="2019-09-24T15:27:51.063" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19337" PostId="9438" Score="0" Text="@mattm ah, I didn't intend to imply the terminology was consistent, will reword it to make it clearer." CreationDate="2019-09-24T15:30:39.967" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19338" PostId="9442" Score="0" Text="This is certainly interesting, but I'm cautious of over-interpreting this experiment. The goal was standardization of process for reproducibility rather than choke effectiveness. Chokes are not fungible. One attempt by an unknown instructor using a palm-to-palm grip on a seated subject falls short of an ideal choke in several ways." CreationDate="2019-09-25T10:15:12.183" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19339" PostId="9191" Score="0" Text="Mifune translates this as &quot;Big comma throw&quot; in his Canon of Judo." CreationDate="2019-09-25T11:10:54.343" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19340" PostId="2730" Score="1" Text="Possible duplicate of [Resisting choke holds using throat tendons?](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/8031/resisting-choke-holds-using-throat-tendons)" CreationDate="2019-09-25T14:42:16.850" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19341" PostId="9441" Score="0" Text="Also dual kama, tongfa and tanbo." CreationDate="2019-09-25T19:19:19.183" UserId="10293" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19342" PostId="9444" Score="0" Text="The most common injuries are strains, sprains, and the like." CreationDate="2019-09-26T16:04:48.683" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19343" PostId="9444" Score="2" Text="I agree, in which case I think we're comparing apple-y strains &amp; bruises to orangey mugging/assault injuries.  Also, Ukemi's answer mentions &quot;major injuries&quot;... !?" CreationDate="2019-09-26T17:11:11.557" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19344" PostId="9444" Score="0" Text="What makes you think that A) injuries are more sever outside the class and B) outside the class means the street?  As I understand it most of the assaults reported are Domestic Violence and the like.  And then there's gang violence... who knows where that happens." CreationDate="2019-09-26T20:04:57.630" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19345" PostId="9444" Score="0" Text="Inside the class, people aren't trying to injure you, hence injuries are relatively minor compared to actual attempts to inflict grievous bodily harm. Outside the class, I was using the term &quot;street&quot; loosely for muggings or bar assaults, but yes, domestic violence occurs a lot more often. About gang violence, where would it occur if not in public? And you wouldn't be a target of that unless you're involved in illegal activity or a bystander with bad luck to get caught in a brawl (assuming they would even brawl rather than shooting)." CreationDate="2019-09-26T20:09:33.967" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19346" PostId="2731" Score="0" Text="The iron neck method appears to line the rope under the jawline, i.e. not putting pressure on the area of the sides of the neck one usually targets in a choke." CreationDate="2019-09-28T07:39:11.577" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19347" PostId="9444" Score="0" Text="That is a plausible way for things to be.. But you don't know that that's true.  This question is in any case about frequency of injury and is valid regardless of severity.  I created a separate question to investigate the severity of injuries from assault and from martial arts training.  Perhaps if you did some research you could help answer that." CreationDate="2019-09-29T15:14:15.377" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19348" PostId="7725" Score="0" Text="Mifune further describes this and a similar sweep in his Canon of Judo, and Kashiwaziki calls a similar looking sweep *ude-kakae* in his Fighting Judo (technique #30, p.70)." CreationDate="2019-09-29T16:00:45.390" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19356" PostId="9448" Score="0" Text="Third, a good command of technique --- balance, speed, power; that's separate from &quot;a good understanding&quot;. Just like an excellent sports commentator can be unable to do the sport due to age or disability." CreationDate="2019-10-01T11:26:32.550" UserId="10367" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19357" PostId="9450" Score="0" Text="I am not sure the city size particularly holds - I live in a town with population ~100,000 in what was officially the fattest county. Yet we still have more martial arts clubs than can easily be counted and some of those clubs have waiting lists to get in.&#xA;Good point about different demographics being very different to teach (and thus requiring a different set of skills)" CreationDate="2019-10-01T11:57:42.203" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19358" PostId="9448" Score="0" Text="@user3445853 That is what I mean by &quot;good understanding&quot;. Will refine to make clearer." CreationDate="2019-10-01T12:15:13.743" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19359" PostId="9449" Score="0" Text="Half a lifetime ago, I was in a Shotokan Karate dojo where brown belts were allowed to teach classes and sponsor lower ranks (at least white and yellow) for promotion." CreationDate="2019-10-01T14:24:25.130" UserId="9676" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19361" PostId="9453" Score="9" Text="I love these old pics, #89 in particular. Let's just whack the cord of the nunchaku into his throat while he just stands there clenching impotent fists of rage. Also notice that the officer has a holstered weapon but has decided to go to town with his nunchaku instead :)" CreationDate="2019-10-01T21:39:37.820" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19362" PostId="9453" Score="1" Text="@slugster This would have presumably been before the taser became the go-to less-lethal weapon for police officers." CreationDate="2019-10-02T03:25:57.897" UserId="10372" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19363" PostId="9454" Score="0" Text="can you show me the references?" CreationDate="2019-10-02T16:27:22.230" UserId="10345" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19364" PostId="9454" Score="0" Text="@ArthurAbitante: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shitō-ryū#Branches and I think I poked a few school sites for history, but I'm at work now, and I don't remember finding anything more substantive." CreationDate="2019-10-02T16:28:43.003" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19365" PostId="9455" Score="1" Text="What's even crazier is how even the depiction of nunchaku were forbidden in many countries.  There are regional edits of the TMNT movies where they basically cut every shot of Michelangelo from the fight scenes because of his choice of weapon.  Never mind that you'd probably do way more damage with Leo's katana, but they didn't seem to have a problem with that." CreationDate="2019-10-02T20:13:07.070" UserId="10375" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19366" PostId="9455" Score="2" Text="@DarrelHoffman Heck, They had to call them Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles in the UK because ninja were to violent." CreationDate="2019-10-02T21:07:58.007" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19367" PostId="9448" Score="0" Text="I have assisted teaching from 3rd kyu onwards, licensing as instructor is possible from 1st kyu here in Germany. Thus, it's a bit odd for me to read that instructing your own classes takes a third dan. At the end of the day, I have 16 years of instruction under my (2nd dan) belt, having acquired more experience and ability than many 3rd dan judoka. I just have not found the time to do my graduations." CreationDate="2019-10-04T09:08:28.280" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19368" PostId="9448" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking Apologies, I was unclear. Edited answer." CreationDate="2019-10-04T10:25:53.883" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19369" PostId="9457" Score="0" Text="sine wave is utilizing body weight dropping to increase the mass part of the force equation. Hip twist in ITF is about body rotation. Both of those come from natural movements (but are massively over exaggerated in the quest for power). So yes a normal step forward is natural sine wave (most straight attacks will be delivered with some sine wave naturally - some styles will just make/try to make far too much of it)." CreationDate="2019-10-07T07:13:55.067" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19371" PostId="9459" Score="4" Text="Not a comment on the answer (or question) at all so feel free to report to be deleted as soon as you read it. Just a note to say thank you for contributing to this site and raising the bar by your submissions. I, for one, appreciate it greatly." CreationDate="2019-10-07T09:27:37.320" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19372" PostId="9459" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion that's very sweet of you, thanks. I've found that authoritative answers to a lot of questions I had about judo aren't always easily accessible (at least in English language sources), so I'm trying to document things I thought important/interesting." CreationDate="2019-10-07T10:52:35.437" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19373" PostId="9459" Score="1" Text="You are most welcome. Your contributions do make this site much better and are all fine examples of how good questions/answers should look like." CreationDate="2019-10-07T12:05:26.357" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19376" PostId="9459" Score="0" Text="FWIW, my take on kubi nage (consistent with the pictures, cannot read the text) is that it is more of an *otoshi* application straight downwards where most of uke's momentum is applied by the neck grip and it is more of a twisting movement around the whole foot-knee-hip-shoulder axis (which is straight) rather than a koshi guruma where uke is wrenched *over* the hip. Regarding the mechanics rather similar to ashi guruma, which suits his famous Kawaishi entrance (diagonal step forwards, 225 degree twist with the knee and hip gaining the momentum and the foot setting far across)." CreationDate="2019-10-10T08:31:43.770" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19377" PostId="7808" Score="0" Text="Try kyosho, this is pressure point knock-outs or vital point striking. Enjoy!" CreationDate="2019-10-10T06:24:47.987" UserId="10396" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19379" PostId="9463" Score="0" Text="I have studied with a 7th dan Iaido teacher. I think your concept of ”visualization” includes motor patterns. I am incorporating antirotation exercises in my strength training, which is otherwise quite extensive. When it comes to mental training, for me, the sword *is* the way. Granted however, my question is asked about a martial art. The weigth of the sword is a good point!" CreationDate="2019-10-13T05:43:57.490" UserId="10397" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19380" PostId="9463" Score="1" Text="Why are you not asking your 7th dan iaido teacher these questions?" CreationDate="2019-10-14T02:30:53.383" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19381" PostId="9463" Score="0" Text="That's a good idea. I haven't spoken to him in ages." CreationDate="2019-10-14T12:02:02.090" UserId="10397" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19382" PostId="9371" Score="0" Text="Not a good idea to copy someone else's answer as an answer to your own." CreationDate="2019-10-14T22:11:51.980" UserId="8201" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19384" PostId="9464" Score="0" Text="Do you want to know which forms are required at each belt? One-steps? Individual techniques?" CreationDate="2019-10-15T02:34:57.133" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19385" PostId="9464" Score="1" Text="I want to know the names of forms (kata, not one-steps or techniques) and at what ranks (gup/dan more than belt colors) they are required." CreationDate="2019-10-15T02:56:31.783" UserId="10157" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19386" PostId="7029" Score="0" Text="Wow, that's impressive! Since Kalaripayattu comes from yoga, it must be the most perfect martial art. In asanas (yogic stances), energy (prana) flows through the body in a natural way. And who can beat the prana?!" CreationDate="2019-10-15T11:18:18.533" UserId="10404" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19387" PostId="2201" Score="0" Text="Are you from Kerala? Do such incidents happen there?" CreationDate="2019-10-15T11:20:28.790" UserId="10404" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19388" PostId="4252" Score="0" Text="What's the meaning of peacefull art when we see so many hard training and deadly moves in Kalaripayattu? I know yoga is peacefull and Kalaripayattu is developed from yoga." CreationDate="2019-10-15T11:22:07.743" UserId="10404" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19392" PostId="9468" Score="0" Text="Thank you so much. Could you please put a year to this as well? It'd be helpful to have an approximate timeframe." CreationDate="2019-10-15T14:45:18.570" UserId="10157" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19394" PostId="9468" Score="0" Text="@JohnO: Done. And added some small clarification from my instructor." CreationDate="2019-10-15T16:53:19.997" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19395" PostId="9468" Score="0" Text="Thank you very much. I appreciate the effort you've went to." CreationDate="2019-10-15T17:06:17.980" UserId="10157" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19396" PostId="9468" Score="0" Text="@JohnO No worries. It's actually kind of fun casting my memory to way back when. :)" CreationDate="2019-10-15T17:27:30.967" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19397" PostId="9472" Score="0" Text="The whole page does not mention the stance that the question is about at all, though. Therefore, it may be a nice sidenote, but hardly an answer proper to what has actually been asked since it does not provide any information about mandala stance." CreationDate="2019-10-16T08:22:03.670" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19398" PostId="9472" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking, with the help of Nāṭya Śāstra you could master the Maṇḍala posture. The dancers had to be very precise when playing a war scene. They had to know how real poses in archery and other forms of fighting looked like." CreationDate="2019-10-16T12:14:32.317" UserId="10404" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19399" PostId="9221" Score="0" Text="This is a great idea. When you say legal waivers, do you mean there should be some sort of legal documentation absolving each other from litigation, in-case someone gets hurt?" CreationDate="2019-10-18T15:29:57.840" UserId="10044" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19400" PostId="9221" Score="0" Text="@junfanbl Yes, that's it exactly. You don't want to be sued for $1 Million because someone got paralyzed accidentally, and accidents do happen. Pretty much all martial arts schools in the U.S. have you sign a waiver prior to starting classes. You can't even step onto the mats without doing that. So what you can do is go to a local martial arts school or two and ask to see a copy of the waivers they have new students sign. They all have a stack of them, so that should be okay to ask for. Then copy it for your own use. If you wanted, you could have a lawyer look it over." CreationDate="2019-10-18T18:03:16.767" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19401" PostId="9482" Score="5" Text="As per https://fitness.stackexchange.com/questions/41070/are-there-any-exercise-that-engage-almost-all-of-your-muscles, engaging all of your muscles would result in you locking up since they operate in opposition. Kind of like how having 100% of your brain active is essentially a really horrible seizure..." CreationDate="2019-10-18T21:00:43.127" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19402" PostId="9482" Score="0" Text="@Sean Duggan edited the question." CreationDate="2019-10-18T21:03:39.647" UserId="10413" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19403" PostId="9482" Score="0" Text="Ditto Sean Duggan's comment. Look up antagonistic muscle response. There are few muscles that actually are involved in the motion itself. The rest are there to stabilize your skeletal system. Your spine is flexible and has many joints (vertebrae), so you need &quot;core&quot; muscles around your torso to stabilize it, for example. If you don't do that, the force of the push will not be supported. Look into power lifting and Olympic lifts to work on full body explosive strength. Lots of other exercises as well, like sled, truck tires, giant rope, bungee cords, etc." CreationDate="2019-10-18T21:25:28.950" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19404" PostId="9474" Score="0" Text="The problem is that you can't quantify the visualization for a study because it's so individual." CreationDate="2019-10-19T00:42:03.890" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19405" PostId="9474" Score="0" Text="@JohnP Yes, nobody can see inside of someone's brain to know what they're thinking about at any given moment. But you don't really have to for this experiment. You can just look at things you can observe, which are the results of the experiment. There will be some people who are terrible at visualization, while others are &quot;gifted&quot; at it. That doesn't matter. What matters are averages in the observed results. So I don't see too much that's wrong with the methodology in theory. Peer review would detect methodological problems." CreationDate="2019-10-19T01:07:01.133" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19406" PostId="9474" Score="0" Text="No, I mean that there is no way to compare. Take person A, at a set point in performance. Train for 6 months using visualization and they improve Y percent. There is no way to backtrack and start from point A again and compare without visualization." CreationDate="2019-10-19T05:39:45.587" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19407" PostId="9474" Score="0" Text="@JohnP Again, that shouldn’t matter in determining what happens to people on average. It just needs randomized groups of people, with each group assigned different tasks (visualization only, action only, visualization plus action, and do nothing).   Then you look at average results. You won’t be able to predict how any particular person will perform, but you can know the probability. All pretty standard science stuff." CreationDate="2019-10-20T23:17:17.397" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19408" PostId="9487" Score="0" Text="http://footfist-way.blogspot.com/2017/04/do-san-additional-applications.html?m=1" CreationDate="2019-10-21T18:27:31.967" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19409" PostId="9487" Score="1" Text="Sorry for the bare link... headed home sick from work and my head isn't into making a list that isn't just that page's text quoted." CreationDate="2019-10-21T18:33:11.603" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19410" PostId="9488" Score="1" Text="Thank you for this answer. It answers more than what I asked. You even answered a few of my followup questions that I hadn't asked yet." CreationDate="2019-10-21T21:29:32.467" UserId="10157" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19411" PostId="9488" Score="0" Text="@JohnO Glad I could pass that along to you. I hope it will lead you to asking more questions." CreationDate="2019-10-21T21:55:48.073" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19412" PostId="9488" Score="0" Text="@johnO Don't forget to accept by clicking on the checkmark by the voting buttons." CreationDate="2019-10-21T23:17:16.220" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19413" PostId="9483" Score="3" Text="I saw a video where this kick [lost](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnu94B6Edrs) to a Taekwondo kick." CreationDate="2019-10-22T07:39:29.677" UserId="10293" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19414" PostId="9488" Score="2" Text="Longtime ITFer here... I totally agree with your second paragraph. And of course the rest is totally authoritative." CreationDate="2019-10-22T13:07:49.667" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19415" PostId="9491" Score="1" Text="Are you suspecting that the exact number &quot;10,000&quot; could have been introduced through translation? That means the original text said &quot; there are 10,000 techniques &quot; but what it actually _meant to say_ was &quot; there are plenty of techniques &quot; and that was just &quot;lost in translation&quot;?" CreationDate="2019-10-22T14:52:52.517" UserId="1631" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19416" PostId="9491" Score="0" Text="@Fildor Yes, I suspect a translation issue. I would characterize the problem as the translator should have interpreted the literal &quot;the 10,000 techniques&quot; as the figurative &quot;the many techniques&quot;, rather than the source text was wrong." CreationDate="2019-10-22T15:06:52.090" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19417" PostId="9483" Score="0" Text="Yes, the Taekwon Do kick produced the most power, but the ratio of power to velocity was a lot higher in Capoeira. Which can mean a couple of things. The Taekwon Do fighter was most likely physically fitter, but Capoeira's kick was a lot more effective, because it uses the entire kinetic energy. It also had a more centered impact which leads to a lot more damage done even at less force applied." CreationDate="2019-10-23T12:13:32.513" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19418" PostId="384" Score="0" Text="Have you made any progress on your notation system? I've been tinkering with something like that myself recently, and would appreciate being able to compare notes." CreationDate="2019-10-24T18:36:23.637" UserId="10157" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19419" PostId="9496" Score="0" Text="I'm not particularly interested in what any single style believes to be a technique. Often those are composites of individual techniques which can be and often are performed separately. If a particular strike were to use both hands, this wouldn't be an impediment, it would just be listed as such and given a label and description. Do you consider pi quan to be a particularly good counter-example? While of course I can't ask for an exhaustive list, if you had a few other counter-examples, those would be appreciated." CreationDate="2019-10-25T14:23:09.823" UserId="10157" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19420" PostId="9496" Score="0" Text="Pi quan is an example of how people will look at movement(s) and see different things. The core of xing yi is basically 5 techniques, of which pi quan is one. I expect xing yi practitioners would not consider pieces of pi quan to be a technique (they have a short list to study), whereas others will see them as separate." CreationDate="2019-10-25T15:38:41.950" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19421" PostId="9496" Score="0" Text="What exactly do you mean by counterexample? Techniques that will be classified differently depending on who is evaluating?" CreationDate="2019-10-25T15:40:23.587" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19422" PostId="9496" Score="0" Text="Techniques that aren't easily decomposed into sub-techniques, or for which doing so would be highly controversial. Especially those which if you cannot decompose them, the list would then balloon to hundreds of items." CreationDate="2019-10-25T15:56:33.357" UserId="10157" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19423" PostId="9482" Score="0" Text="Aside from my slightly snarky comment above, I think one also has the answer that most martial arts moves try to use as many muscles of the human body at once. Even the bog-standard reverse punch involves using the muscles of the legs, torso, and arms to drive the punch forward. Ditto with the kicks." CreationDate="2019-10-26T13:51:42.810" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19424" PostId="9498" Score="0" Text="It could be... it's been decades since I gave that answer in class. And, based on it being a wrong answer, it wasn't even part of our style." CreationDate="2019-10-26T14:59:03.707" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19425" PostId="384" Score="0" Text="It got put on the back-burner for a few months - I've been busy shipping Touchgram and have another product I'm involved with coming out in December, plus in last couple of weeks of long European holiday with my wife.&#xA;&#xA;However, you have motivated me to setup a community forum so the discussion can continue, without abusing this comment thread, and help the notation design progress: https://spectrum.chat/stepwhys/notation/introduction-the-rationale~50348a6b-2417-4b8e-85e2-87edd8ee86e4" CreationDate="2019-10-26T17:21:11.240" UserId="179" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19426" PostId="9497" Score="1" Text="The problem is, this is an inkblot test. People will see whatever they are familiar with. I've been &quot;around&quot;, as you might know based on my answers in the past. I've gone into so many martial arts it's not funny. This technique in some martial arts is part of a wrist grab defense (Chen style taiji in particular). In some cases, it's to attack soft targets, particularly the underside of the jaw. In other cases, it's a hard strike. You won't know how it's used unless you see it being used in its kata/form context. Sometimes, though, forms have been altered in appearance over time..." CreationDate="2019-10-27T02:56:14.250" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19427" PostId="9497" Score="1" Text="... And so, what started out as a simple wrist grab dissolve was interpreted as a strike by someone who didn't know the original purpose. And if it's a strike, then it's all wrong the way it's done, so they changed it from a mid-level technique to something that goes up high (thinking it must attack the jaw). These errors in transmission happen all the time, and it's because things like this are weird and invite all kinds of interpretations if you don't know what the original purpose was. Anatomically speaking, it's terrible as a strike. Don't do that. You'll hurt yourself." CreationDate="2019-10-27T02:58:34.457" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19428" PostId="9496" Score="0" Text="@JohnO: The point this answer is making is rather the ballooning. Consider the picture given in Sean Duggan's self-answer to his oxjaw strike question: There are all these possible areas to hit with. Now, you can do them from different directions. You can do them to parry or to hurt. You can do them moving forward, backwards, sidewards, stopping or piercing, with angled limbs or straight ones. All these moves, even if some of them are biomechanically similar, serve different purposes in different situations and since a technique is not an isolated movement but a solution to a problem..." CreationDate="2019-10-27T13:10:31.400" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19429" PostId="9496" Score="0" Text="...they constitute myriads of techniques. Throws are kind of special since they usually do only work in a particular relative position with a particular kind of control and a particular kuzushi, ie. are distinct techniques. Groundwork and striking are messier." CreationDate="2019-10-27T13:13:29.670" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19430" PostId="9501" Score="3" Text="This question has basically already been asked before, except it was for someone asking as a 14 year old. I'm going to refer you to my answer, because I think it applies very well:  https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/6895/am-i-allowed-to-start-krav-maga-training-at-14/6897#6897" CreationDate="2019-10-28T03:03:31.817" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19432" PostId="9497" Score="1" Text="As an FYI for anyone looking to answer, this is also called a &quot;bow hand strike&quot; in some styles." CreationDate="2019-10-28T13:59:22.413" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19434" PostId="8973" Score="0" Text="@KristinaLex and Sjana, I know this is a late reply, but I needed some time to settle into sparring. I've been sparring with a groin protector recently because of a kick I took there without wearing one that just hurt so bad and so long, that I promised myself to never spar again without wearing one. I remembered what you said about your experiences, and was wondering if you could expand on them. After a few months, I'd  still say I'm pretty new." CreationDate="2019-10-29T08:49:24.653" UserId="9983" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19435" PostId="9497" Score="2" Text="@SteveWeigand - That has the potential to be a good answer, rather than an extended comment." CreationDate="2019-10-29T14:07:25.293" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19436" PostId="9502" Score="0" Text="This question is posted as part of the [current question challenge](https://martialarts.meta.stackexchange.com/q/598/5961)." CreationDate="2019-10-29T15:17:44.483" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19437" PostId="9502" Score="0" Text="I believe it is more Shinto than Daoist" CreationDate="2019-10-29T20:20:45.090" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19439" PostId="9506" Score="0" Text="[Part of the challenge](https://martialarts.meta.stackexchange.com/q/598/82)" CreationDate="2019-10-30T08:03:36.923" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19444" PostId="9503" Score="1" Text="It may depend on which set of shuriken techniques you use. They're not exactly unified. https://www.martialartswords.com/blogs/articles/shurikenjutsu-the-japanese-martial-arts-of-shuriken-throwing" CreationDate="2019-10-30T21:31:09.483" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19445" PostId="9503" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan I would be happy if it were compared to any traditional shurikenjutsu school. Pick a prominent one, or one that historians know the most about." CreationDate="2019-10-30T21:41:55.820" UserId="10157" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19446" PostId="8973" Score="1" Text="Overall, groin guards for females can deal a lot more damage than the kick itself. Yes it is something that happens rarely, but when it does happen you'll be out of sparring for a year, if you still want to spar after that. In general I find groin guards uncomfortable, inconvenient and they hurt more than the kick itself. I've taken a fair share of kicks to the groin without and with protector, and the ones without definitely hurt less for me. The protector gets kicked into the sides of your nether region, which is more sensitive cause of the build up of cysts. Let me try to find out the name." CreationDate="2019-10-31T10:11:29.440" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19447" PostId="8973" Score="1" Text="https://i.pinimg.com/originals/04/ec/f2/04ecf2540fc27314ce3184ec862e2909.png They are Lymph Nodes, which naturally build up non-cancerous cysts. Everyone has these little cysts, both males and females. But in the female body they go further down, to the sides of the nether region. The groin protector can really hurt that area. When you're below 20 years old you mostly likely don't notice the cysts yet, as you get older they become bigger and more visible. They will stay below a certain size for the most part, but a hit to it still hurts." CreationDate="2019-10-31T10:12:56.387" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19448" PostId="9501" Score="0" Text="IMHO, no ! It's not pratical at all for normal people, you can't handle a knife after learning it. It might be useful only for some very special person. Just keep with MMA  or any other practial martial arts. That said, you can take it as a gym, for health, but not as martial art." CreationDate="2019-10-31T16:21:12.323" UserId="10446" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19449" PostId="9512" Score="2" Text="Your example of a soft martial art is contrived. If you apply an arm bar, you are either maintaining it to immobilize the opponent until they calm down or help arrives, or you are going to break their arm. It's really unsafe to &quot;toss in an arm bar and run away&quot;. You would either engage and apply the arm bar, or run away." CreationDate="2019-10-31T21:37:51.370" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19450" PostId="9512" Score="0" Text="By fake I mean the schools, where they're not teaching an actual martial art. Stuff like this. I get it that you just have to attend one class to tell.&#xA;&#xA;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCDA6LBvyuM" CreationDate="2019-10-31T21:39:16.807" UserId="10259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19451" PostId="9512" Score="0" Text="@mattm There are better examples, but they're graphic. When I took Hapkido the instructor mentioned there are multiple ways of practicing it. He showed us a technique where you start with the finger tips, and work your way into an arm bar applying joint locks along the way. He mentioned there's another more aggressive means of applying the technique where you break bone and tendons. When the joint gives resistance you keep pushing." CreationDate="2019-10-31T21:45:50.370" UserId="10259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19452" PostId="9513" Score="0" Text="Oh for sure. I'm looking for mostly sparing where you pull punches. Along with sessions of getting techniques down. I just know the Krav Maga philosophy is don't start fights but finish them as quickly as possible. It's designed so a disarmed soldier on the battlefield has a chance of coming home." CreationDate="2019-10-31T22:25:26.587" UserId="10259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19453" PostId="9512" Score="3" Text="Your definition of hard vs. soft style doesn't match the mainstream one. Soft style is anything which doesn't meet force with force, but which yields to the force, redirecting it. Soft styles involve sensitivity. You need to feel the force of your opponent dynamically, as you are redirecting it. Whereas hard styles will generally power through forcefully. Both hard and soft styles can be used maliciously with maximum intent to harm, or can be used minimally." CreationDate="2019-11-01T04:18:50.720" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19461" PostId="9515" Score="0" Text="So should I just assume that instructors are failing to do/mention it (our 8th Dan Federation chief, not a fresh 1st Dan)?" CreationDate="2019-11-01T21:15:58.073" UserId="10153" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19462" PostId="9516" Score="2" Text="This feels like a comment on Steve Weigand's comment on my post rather than an answer to the question. Can you expound on the training?" CreationDate="2019-11-03T00:21:19.720" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19463" PostId="9513" Score="0" Text="@ZeroPhase An important thing there is that Krav Maga is **designed for soldiers**.  If you ever tried to use it like that in a civilian self-defence scenario, you would most likely find yourself charged with using excessive force, and prosecuted extensively.  Your definition of &quot;soft&quot; (which is not the one used by Martial Arts) is in fact &quot;staying within the bounds of law&quot;.  Many decent and responsible Martial Arts schools would look at your &quot;how do I deal the most damage&quot; mindset, and refuse to teach you." CreationDate="2019-11-07T13:47:28.173" UserId="9212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19464" PostId="9519" Score="2" Text="As the hand-model in question, sorry for the bad technique. :-D It was many years since I saw it." CreationDate="2019-11-08T12:43:53.770" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19465" PostId="9515" Score="0" Text="@awsirkis Late answer, but yes, it comes down to that. The short time I've had in an open-styled, but Shorin-Ryu emphasised uni club in Britain, it was made quite clear by low-ranking dans that hip emphasis - even in basic strikes - is special to Shorin-Ryu (and not that present in Goju-Ryu, another traditional Okinawan style)." CreationDate="2019-11-08T13:14:21.067" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19466" PostId="9515" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking I briefly studied Uechi-ryu, a traditional Okinawan style, where hip rotation was part of striking in the Sanchin kata." CreationDate="2019-11-08T21:59:35.373" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19467" PostId="9515" Score="1" Text="Did not want to imply that hip rotation was not part of any decent karate style since it is crucial for generating power. So of course it is part of Goju Ryu as well. The point is  rather that Shorin Ryu indeed *emphasises* the hip movements in every single punch and generally a lot more than other styles, where this aspect of power generation tends to be more subtle, yet never absent." CreationDate="2019-11-08T22:21:40.890" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19468" PostId="9515" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking Cool. I'll make sure to emphasize that more" CreationDate="2019-11-09T21:27:22.650" UserId="10153" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19469" PostId="9522" Score="0" Text="This is an interesting question, but not really on topic for fitness. It's late here now, but I'll figure out tomorrow morning whether cross validated or martial arts would be a better location." CreationDate="2019-11-11T02:01:06.917" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19470" PostId="9522" Score="0" Text="@JohnP I have the same dilemma. I decided for Physical Fitness because the damage resistance and power are fitness qualities trained like other fitness qualities (also in other contact sports - other than combat sports). The Martial arts exchange makes sense maybe also (I was thinking about it). But because this question is not about methodology (or validity) in this stage, I think the Cross validate is not a good option." CreationDate="2019-11-11T06:55:47.500" UserDisplayName="matousc" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19471" PostId="9522" Score="0" Text="True, although for it to be a better fit here, we would want the training outlined more. I think MA would be a better fit, I'll edit it and migrate." CreationDate="2019-11-11T14:24:52.353" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19472" PostId="9523" Score="0" Text="Without reading the paper you're citing (sorry, being lazy), I remember someone pointing out that the sort of trauma varies. Higher weight-classes were more prone to immediate brain injury, but lighter weight-classes tended more toward the post-concussion trauma because they survived more punches without getting sidelined." CreationDate="2019-11-11T16:53:22.567" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19473" PostId="9523" Score="0" Text="TKD based study - Injuries climb with weight class, except the top 2 weight classes in men drop a bit: https://www.thieme-connect.com/products/ejournals/html/10.1055/s-0031-1275302" CreationDate="2019-11-11T16:56:11.980" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19474" PostId="9522" Score="0" Text="See also my answer: https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/4455/which-will-result-in-more-brain-damage-being-a-heavy-weight-or-lightweight-boxe/4456#4456" CreationDate="2019-11-11T19:47:07.620" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19477" PostId="9526" Score="3" Text="You question is unclear: effective for what?" CreationDate="2019-11-12T08:29:15.000" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19481" PostId="9526" Score="0" Text="What could  it mean but &quot;Effective as a combination of martial arts so as to develop good skills in all areas&quot;? Yip Chee, I only know much about TKD, which (as taught to me and, I gather, many other students) yes, would benefit from some actual hand training.  I could imagine there being some conflicting training between boxing and wing chun punching which some people might not be able to switch cleanly between during a match or fight." CreationDate="2019-11-12T13:51:01.517" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19483" PostId="9526" Score="2" Text="@AmorphousBlob It is generally good practice to ask the OP for clarification instead of making an assumption. YIP Chee might be looking at self defence (whatever that means), fitness, MMA or other competition. All are possible hence why I asked for clarification." CreationDate="2019-11-12T14:30:20.027" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19493" PostId="5887" Score="0" Text="Hey @DougB, just to let you know, I tried somersaults, but they were a bit hard to do while training. But I followed Grimm's idea and started to do forward and backward roles while training, and it really works. you feel a little disoriented and have to deal with this condition. But it works for some time, until the body gets used to the roles. When this happens, I stop doing it for some weeks and start again after it." CreationDate="2019-11-14T13:27:40.707" UserId="5606" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19494" PostId="9534" Score="0" Text="This isn't about martial arts - so is probably more appropriate on physical fitness." CreationDate="2019-11-15T09:03:17.027" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19495" PostId="9534" Score="0" Text="@Collett89, understand you, I'm really sorry. TV story was with guy punching a bag, so I implicitly understand this question applicable here. I don't have enough rights to move it - but if you want to close - I'll support you and add my vote to close too." CreationDate="2019-11-15T09:05:43.677" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19496" PostId="9534" Score="2" Text="[Skeptic](https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/) might be an even better fit. Although, I am happy for this to stay here provided it was more focused on martial arts instead of a general &quot;does it work&quot;?" CreationDate="2019-11-15T09:09:16.583" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19497" PostId="9534" Score="1" Text="@Sardathrion-ReinstateMonica, thank you, very glad to see such warm appreciating." CreationDate="2019-11-15T09:12:30.847" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19498" PostId="9534" Score="0" Text="This has been asked on martial arts, fitness, medical science, so it would be marked as duplicate. The basic answer is &quot;no&quot;, except to improve intercostal muscle function. It would make a great question for skeptics, provided it meets their rather exacting standards. :)" CreationDate="2019-11-15T13:47:58.170" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19499" PostId="9534" Score="0" Text="@JohnP, understand, thank you! I've searched a bit but didn't found those question. For now - problem solved - that does not work.)" CreationDate="2019-11-15T13:58:52.473" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19500" PostId="5114" Score="1" Text="*&quot;Pure traditional Kung Fu could not be used anyway in MMA matches due to rules and restrictions prohibiting various vital strikes and moves&quot;* - This applies to many purely self-defensive styles (Hapkido, Krav Maga, etc.), because their goal is to disable the attacker, usually by destructive or even lethal means, not to fight/compete with him." CreationDate="2019-11-15T20:22:21.077" UserId="7848" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19501" PostId="9488" Score="0" Text="That's the problem with most TKD/Karate schools - they never explain what the individual poomse/kata steps are actually supposed to do." CreationDate="2019-11-15T20:27:23.230" UserId="7848" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19502" PostId="9432" Score="0" Text="I'm guessing that the idea didn't fly, and will now try to unlearn decades of using the hammer fist striking surface to support the blocking arm.  Was really hoping that more expert practitioners would offer their experienced view on the pro's and/or con's." CreationDate="2019-11-15T21:10:55.967" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19503" PostId="9488" Score="0" Text="@DavidRTribble Yup. Which is why I said you really have to look at Okinawan karate if you want the answers. But even then, go out and learn classical jujitsu on the side, because transmission is spotty even in Okinawan karate." CreationDate="2019-11-15T21:51:40.127" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19504" PostId="9491" Score="2" Text="Kind of like the use of &quot;40&quot; in the Hebrew Bible to mean &quot;a long time&quot; as in floods, days in the desert, etc." CreationDate="2019-11-16T14:28:30.883" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19505" PostId="7826" Score="0" Text="It's less painful (to you)  and more powerful to kick with the very lowest 2&quot; / 5 cm of the shin and the very top of your instep where it's about to meet your shin bone. Also, are you turning your hips enough that they're sideways to your target when you strike? That helps keep an occasional sloppy not-extended toe from meeting the target first." CreationDate="2019-11-18T13:53:16.483" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19506" PostId="5919" Score="0" Text="To be technical, RBC's don't increase in 3 days, but they do start undergoing structural changes. EPO production increases within 3 days, but it can take roughly 7-14 days before RBC volume changes significantly." CreationDate="2019-11-19T13:39:19.437" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19510" PostId="9535" Score="0" Text="The Aikido Yoshinkan test syllabus (pdf link: https://www.yoshinkan.net/05images/_pdf/sinsakamoku2019E.pdf&#xA; ) has several hundred techniques (there are more than 80 lines on the Yudan syllabus, and most lines correspond to four techniques, so 250 would be a conservative estimate). IOW you would be hard-pressed to find a black belt holder who can't name several hundred techniques, even if they had never learned anything beyond the official test syllabus." CreationDate="2019-11-20T00:57:52.683" UserId="10149" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19511" PostId="9540" Score="0" Text="Not really a full answer - but I always found having a target at the distance I expect to reach and drilling to hit that effective. Have you tried this?" CreationDate="2019-11-22T07:41:10.317" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19512" PostId="9540" Score="0" Text="@Collett89, tried, I'll fix my question - I mentioned &quot;without a bag&quot;. Sadly, bag is often unreachable, so, trying all my best without it.)" CreationDate="2019-11-22T07:58:34.807" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19513" PostId="9540" Score="0" Text="Offtop, @Collett89, but cannot miss it -  cool profile description!" CreationDate="2019-11-22T08:01:21.087" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19514" PostId="9540" Score="1" Text="To enhance @Collett89's suggestion, the target doesn't have to be a bag. Use a piece of paper or cloth as the target." CreationDate="2019-11-22T10:18:11.593" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19515" PostId="9540" Score="3" Text="Hanging a towel off of something requires very little mooring, and provides a tangible target." CreationDate="2019-11-22T10:47:52.350" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19516" PostId="9540" Score="0" Text="***Pretty please with a sugar cherry on top, could you write answers instead of comments?*** This site needs content, not ephemeral one liners. Thank you." CreationDate="2019-11-22T11:28:13.173" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19518" PostId="9540" Score="0" Text="@mattm, I'm sorry that is a typo. &quot;Turn&quot; should be for shoulders." CreationDate="2019-11-22T13:00:52.367" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19519" PostId="9540" Score="0" Text="Okay I don't know anything about boxing, but I do know that 'punch' is a pretty big umbrella, covering everything from jabs to crosses to straights to etc etc.  If there's a &quot;default&quot; punch that real boxers just assume, that's fine, but I'd appreciate something more explicit.  I have a feeling (which might be wrong!) that some solutions are going to work better for certain punches than others." CreationDate="2019-11-22T20:52:09.187" UserId="10492" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19520" PostId="9541" Score="0" Text="Really only a comment this time: It might be worth noting that if you add footwork and thus varying distances, you have a better effect of training your sense of distance as soon as you mastered the static shoulder-turning. This way, you gain more confidence to not pull your strikes even in sparring because you just *know* your reach with fully turning the shoulders." CreationDate="2019-11-23T08:20:20.687" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19521" PostId="9543" Score="0" Text="The problem is, right now, I don't have confidence in anyone's strategies for grappling range pistol fights (I assume you're talking about pistols, not rifles or shotguns). It requires pressure testing, similar to how MMA people train. But I haven't seen a lot of that going on out there. Most firearm combat training tends to be situational, not very &quot;live&quot;, somewhat compliant. I don't see realistic training going on. But that would be my prescription to answer this question. Practice it, with partners who are trying all they can to defeat you. Obviously use a fake gun that maybe squirts dye." CreationDate="2019-11-23T22:09:17.323" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19522" PostId="9543" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand Tried that with a cap-gun. So, we can't really go 100% all out. But, I couldn't get disarmed under 25 seconds. (Didn't want to break my finger and we were not allowed to pull the trigger because of the smell of the cap-smoke).  I still got pretend shots in center mass." CreationDate="2019-11-24T01:01:14.023" UserId="10495" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19523" PostId="9543" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand I just remembered that if you hold the slide and grip it gives you more control over the gun.(sure you'll get messed up, but its better than being messed up forever) This can make you last so long." CreationDate="2019-11-24T01:06:17.517" UserId="10495" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19524" PostId="9543" Score="2" Text="Adding &quot;rules of engagement&quot; to your question will make it better. What is the situation? e.g Will you shoot his leg if you tell him to put his hands on his head and he refuse?" CreationDate="2019-11-24T10:31:28.533" UserId="10293" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19525" PostId="9547" Score="0" Text="[Relevant question](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/8415/are-blocks-unrealistic/8421) about &quot;blocks&quot; in other martial arts - and, yes the quote marks are deliberate.  As Miyagi-sensei said *&quot;Best defense, no be there&quot;*" CreationDate="2019-11-26T10:25:59.850" UserId="9212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19526" PostId="7809" Score="0" Text="&quot;Standard&quot; Capoeira is more a game then MA... I don't know if the Angola style can fit into MA definition, although it's loads of fun." CreationDate="2019-11-26T14:54:26.117" UserId="10293" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19527" PostId="7809" Score="0" Text="@Alaychem: I disagree with you, but that gets into a lot of debate over Traditional Martial Arts and its applicability in actual fighting. Suffice to say that if you train to fight, you learn to fight. If you train for other reasons, you get your enjoyment there." CreationDate="2019-11-26T16:25:32.677" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19529" PostId="9548" Score="0" Text="Thank, RoundHouse. I've only seen the 1st video so far. It's vicious. I notice that they don't pivot their whole body when doing a hook.  I may have been improperly trained." CreationDate="2019-11-27T02:51:14.100" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19530" PostId="9548" Score="1" Text="@user2153235 If you are referring to the glory fight between Holzken and Valtellini, then there is reason why they are doing that. In MT/KB, the left hook is very commonly used to set up the following low leg kick. If you turn or pivot your whole body (i.e., if you over commit on your left hook) then it will take much longer for the leg kick to land (even if it is just a split of a second longer). The leg will have to travel a bit more distance to make contact with the opponent's leg if you turn too much on the left hook." CreationDate="2019-11-27T03:03:43.117" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19531" PostId="9548" Score="0" Text="So outside of that particular combination, if the hook is more than a set up, then there's greater commitment?  Or is that simply not done in MT?" CreationDate="2019-11-27T04:25:16.457" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19532" PostId="9548" Score="0" Text="@user2153235 There are other reasons why one might not fully commit or turn/pivot their body with the left hook in MT/KB. Setting up a fast leg kick is one. Another is to avoid opening up one's center too much - if one opens up the center too much from fully committing the left hook, the opponent can clinching and throw knees or just throw long knees. If you don't fully turn your body, you are in a better position to defend knees." CreationDate="2019-11-27T05:12:08.690" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19534" PostId="9548" Score="0" Text="Yes, if the hook is thrown with intention other than the leg kick set up, then it will have a bit more commitment and hence a bit more turn to it (the idea of going through the target). Here, take a look at the commitment of the left hook to the body [Damien Trainor: Body shot mechanics](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBayfI3Bu64)." CreationDate="2019-11-27T05:14:18.367" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19535" PostId="9548" Score="0" Text="I see the full body rotation.  Thanks.  The footage doesn't show the footwork.  I found an example here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO5XTnjsPNQ.  It's more committed than the Damien video, but I suspect that there is a range of practices out there for different reasons." CreationDate="2019-11-28T01:40:47.853" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19536" PostId="9552" Score="1" Text="My TKD test to get brown belt resulted in a total failure to do a non-jumping spinning heel kick speed break to a single board dangled from two fingers. It upset me that I couldn't do it. So I took 6 months &quot;off&quot; from TKD just to practice that kick, and the jumping version of it. I really worked at it and the new forms I had to learn. Then I came back and within 3 months they tell me I'm ready to test for 1st dan. The 1st dan test comes, I was given a 2 board jumping, spinning heel kick speed break. Nailed it! No problem. The boards landed in the drywall. :) My advice: PRACTICE!!!" CreationDate="2019-11-28T15:55:01.037" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19537" PostId="9546" Score="0" Text="Can the knife-welder know how to use his knife? Better stab in the right spot. Or else, he may still get shot." CreationDate="2019-11-28T23:37:53.233" UserId="10495" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19538" PostId="9546" Score="1" Text="@TravisWells Dan Inosanto attacks an untrained in gun craft person. So no, the knife welder cannot know how to use their knife beyond the obvious basics. *The point I was trying to make is that anyone with skill can easily defeat someone without.*" CreationDate="2019-11-29T07:44:25.320" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19539" PostId="9552" Score="0" Text="Will you have to demonstrate/use the jump kicks in sparring sessions? Or are they going to be performed in katas or with a pad holder?" CreationDate="2019-11-29T08:05:46.317" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19540" PostId="9552" Score="0" Text="@roundhose It should be to demonstrate technique, from still position, with no target. Pad targets could also be used, but no sparring involved for sure. There should be also board breaks, but for those effectiveness is more important that displaying technique." CreationDate="2019-11-29T08:59:56.100" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19544" PostId="9557" Score="0" Text="Exercise/practice. Muscles will get stronger, joints will become more flexible, habits will become ingrained. It's not a natural pose and it requires work." CreationDate="2019-12-02T18:01:38.887" UserId="10157" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19545" PostId="9557" Score="0" Text="My take: If you have long legs, you simply won't be able to achieve a really deep and semi-comfortable horse stance with feet perfectly forward, without seriously twisting the crap out of your knees and ankles, to the point where it's ridiculous. It sucks, because many instructors don't know any better, and they'll always try to correct you. Screw that! It's not correctable. Not without compromising a bunch of things. You're going to be wobbly. Your joints will hurt. Don't. Asian martial arts do this, but they were developed in Asia, where legs are much shorter. My take." CreationDate="2019-12-02T18:33:14.827" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19546" PostId="9557" Score="1" Text="@JohnO Please write an answer." CreationDate="2019-12-02T19:13:48.653" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19547" PostId="9557" Score="1" Text="@SteveWeigand Please write an answer." CreationDate="2019-12-02T19:13:59.933" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19548" PostId="9561" Score="1" Text="I second the recommendation of the No Nonsense Self Defense site - a ton of great information that takes a while to assimilate. Sardathrion, I love your phrasing of &quot;fantasy&quot; of defending yourself in a dark alley :).  NNSD points out and explains things like &quot;The number one predictor of you getting in a fight is... 'You're being an arsehole' &quot;.  [British English phrasing there... :) )" CreationDate="2019-12-03T13:59:10.483" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19550" PostId="9561" Score="0" Text="@AmorphousBlob Pretty much yeah. Too many people live with a fantasy of self defence myths perpetuated by urban myths and uneducated opinions." CreationDate="2019-12-03T14:14:57.643" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19551" PostId="9560" Score="0" Text="As a quibble, I expect Krav Maga practitioners do not call it a dojo." CreationDate="2019-12-03T17:57:04.117" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19552" PostId="9561" Score="0" Text="Oh conditioning is definitely important. From me doing some research it just sounds like may of the Krav Maga schools in the US are fitness classes with there being a disconnect between what is taught to the IDF and foreigners attending a school. Since I'm looking for this for self defense (I already have a conditioning regime) I'm basically looking for a school that spars?" CreationDate="2019-12-03T20:56:04.517" UserId="10259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19553" PostId="9562" Score="0" Text="Yeah, that's really the best way. This is the school I believe meets my needs. From the website does it look legitimate?&#xA;&#xA;http://www.kmfchicago.com/civilian-force" CreationDate="2019-12-03T20:57:49.853" UserId="10259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19554" PostId="9562" Score="0" Text="@ZeroPhase: I really can't say. I've never done Krav Maga. :) I was speaking more of a general case for martial arts schools. Are they close enough to you to visit?" CreationDate="2019-12-03T21:00:35.867" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19555" PostId="9562" Score="0" Text="Yeah, I'll sign up for a trial, and see. Thanks." CreationDate="2019-12-03T21:03:24.303" UserId="10259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19556" PostId="9560" Score="0" Text="As a quibble, I'm afraid the word dojo is used in many other contexts besides its original karate dojo. For example: programming dojo, learning dojo..." CreationDate="2019-12-03T22:26:16.770" UserId="1811" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19557" PostId="9560" Score="0" Text="Just a synonym for a martial arts school.They probably use a different term depending on how involved with the mixed martial arts history passed down from the east." CreationDate="2019-12-03T22:51:56.867" UserId="10259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19560" PostId="9565" Score="0" Text="I am pretty decent in close range, and that is where I feel confident. Also, getting in the clinch would work to my advantage. But it's getting close to them that is so problematic. Thanks for the great answer. I think you are right that I am moving in a straight line towards them." CreationDate="2019-12-05T09:33:17.857" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19571" PostId="9563" Score="1" Text="Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been [moved to chat](https://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/101854/discussion-on-question-by-roundhouse-how-to-beat-a-kickboxer-with-a-bruce-lee-ty)." CreationDate="2019-12-05T20:02:54.517" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19573" PostId="9565" Score="1" Text="@mattm I have tried to clarify - one of those things that a 30 second demo in my class seems to say more than an essay here." CreationDate="2019-12-06T08:09:39.370" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19574" PostId="9565" Score="0" Text="@Collett89 I did understand what you said before, but your edit makes the answer even better. It's detailed and well-structured. Thanks!" CreationDate="2019-12-06T08:47:24.517" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19579" PostId="9566" Score="1" Text="I am not a practitioner, but there's some interesting discourse at https://tplafightingwords.com/2019/04/12/liujiao-dao-%E9%B9%BF%E8%A7%92%E5%88%80-the-deer-horn-knives/ about usage." CreationDate="2019-12-06T12:41:56.410" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19580" PostId="9567" Score="0" Text="yeah i agree with you about the sliding blade along the staff it just the closes example image to get what i mean, but imagine if that was a baton or mace swinging though....." CreationDate="2019-12-06T14:53:09.860" UserId="10509" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19581" PostId="9566" Score="1" Text="It was probably initially designed from two individual pieces that got welded together. It becomes super easy to construct when done that way. So it might be that way just because it was easy. A lot of stuff in kung-fu and martial arts in general doesn't exactly make the most logical sense. Most of it is just from individuals who thought whatever they were doing made sense to them or looked interesting. Whether or not it can be used better than any other weapon is not really discussed. It's usually thought that success is based on the individual, not the weapon. At least in kung-fu." CreationDate="2019-12-06T16:40:41.133" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19588" PostId="9579" Score="0" Text="[On Modern Jujutsu (jujitsu), Kenji Tomiki](https://judoinfo.com/tomiki2/) offers a view of Aikido modelled on Kano's thinking about Judo. Might not be fully relevant to this answer but worth keeping in mind, maybe." CreationDate="2019-12-12T11:12:30.257" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19593" PostId="9578" Score="0" Text="Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been [moved to chat](https://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/102138/discussion-on-question-by-barlop-what-did-judo-change-innovate-when-it-branched)." CreationDate="2019-12-12T21:05:51.857" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19594" PostId="9580" Score="1" Text="Look into Wing Chun and the &quot;red boat&quot; period of its history. Wing Chun supposedly went through stance and structural changes to accommodate life on a boat. Not all branches of Wing Chun practice the same kinds of stances that we generally see in Wing Chun today." CreationDate="2019-12-14T03:20:54.517" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19597" PostId="9580" Score="1" Text="Also realize, that smaller boats such as the one depicted here (Small in context to modern ships), is that the motion of the waves and such in the ocean would cause the deck to rise/fall and pitch, even in relatively calm seas." CreationDate="2019-12-16T13:57:43.337" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19598" PostId="9584" Score="0" Text="120 degrees is because I am having to change my stance from orthodox to southpaw to bring my right leg forward to throw a side kick." CreationDate="2019-12-16T17:47:16.927" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19599" PostId="9584" Score="0" Text="@Roundhouse: Part of why I wasn't certain if I understood correctly. You want to throw a front-leg sidekick, but you're preparing by putting that leg in the back? Why not throw the front-leg sidekick with the left foot that's in front? :)" CreationDate="2019-12-16T17:50:37.653" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19600" PostId="9584" Score="0" Text="That's my problem. I can't throw a good strong well-balanced side kick with my left leg. I can with my right leg, but my right leg is the back leg. So to throw a sidekick, I am having to switch stance everytime to bring my right leg front." CreationDate="2019-12-16T18:02:20.173" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19601" PostId="9584" Score="0" Text="Ah. Can you describe how you're unbalancing? Is it on impact? Are you being pushed backwards? Sideways? Feeling your ankle wobble? Difficulty targeting?" CreationDate="2019-12-16T18:14:55.380" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19602" PostId="9584" Score="0" Text="I added a badly drawn picture to show the change in stance (ignore the foot angles). Well, I have no accuracy with my left sidekick. When I put a bit of power into it, I get off-balanced because I can't hit my target on the right spot. My sidekick with my right leg is well-balanced. I can always throw it with power without missing the target. When I think of throwing a left sidekick both my legs start shaking. I don't know why." CreationDate="2019-12-16T19:22:33.670" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19603" PostId="9584" Score="0" Text="At the risk of getting into a lengthy conversation on this, if you stand south-paw, can you do a front-leg side kick on your right without getting wobbly? How about a back-leg on the left?" CreationDate="2019-12-16T19:24:43.217" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19604" PostId="9584" Score="0" Text="Yes. When I throw it with my right leg it's fine - no problem at all. But to do that I have to go southpaw, which is a big give away. I am an orthodox fighter." CreationDate="2019-12-16T19:28:41.370" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19605" PostId="9585" Score="0" Text="I see you agree with me that if I go in hopping like Scott I will get hit in the face and get knocked out. I need to set this up." CreationDate="2019-12-16T22:05:51.007" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19606" PostId="9585" Score="0" Text="Do you think I can do the sliding/hopping sidekick after being pushed back by a teep (I have been incorrectly writing 'tip' haha)? That will give me the room/space by default as opposed to me taking a few steps back to create room (which would be super obvious)." CreationDate="2019-12-16T22:08:26.333" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19607" PostId="9585" Score="1" Text="@RoundHouse: Assuming you don't already have the distance, I suspect your best move might be to threaten the regular front-leg side kick if you have that distance. If the opponent steps back, then you have the right distance to step into the side-kick. Did you watch the Jamie Faulding video and how he pulled it off?" CreationDate="2019-12-16T22:18:44.557" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19608" PostId="9585" Score="0" Text="Yes, I watched it. The level change from body to head was just insane. But the distance he covered on one leg was dangerous - I suspect a technical fighter would have gone with a leg kick to the standing leg." CreationDate="2019-12-17T02:19:20.740" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19609" PostId="9582" Score="0" Text="How did you manage to get these gifs here in SE? Can you tell me the command/code, please?" CreationDate="2019-12-17T02:20:40.430" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19610" PostId="9582" Score="1" Text="@RoundHouse find a YouTube video, Google YouTube to gif converter, use one of the sites that doesn't include a watermark (normally limited to &lt;10s length), create the gif, if it's too big Google gif optimiser and reduce the file quality/size til it's under 2mb." CreationDate="2019-12-17T08:44:22.913" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19611" PostId="9582" Score="0" Text="Then how should I post them here?" CreationDate="2019-12-17T08:52:34.873" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19612" PostId="9582" Score="0" Text="@RoundHouse https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/75491/how-to-upload-an-image-to-a-post" CreationDate="2019-12-17T09:52:47.227" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19613" PostId="9587" Score="3" Text="This is all speculation on my part, but here's what I think: The main problem with dual swords on horseback is that you don't have a firm grip on your horse's saddle. Without that, as soon as your sword makes contact with someone (either their body or their shield), you will just fall off the horse. These swords were typically larger and heavier than regular swords, so they would have less resistance cutting through someone. But not no resistance. And especially not if they were up against people carrying shields or wearing armor, which was almost certainly the case." CreationDate="2019-12-17T17:14:19.133" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19614" PostId="9588" Score="2" Text="Made a minor spelling fix. The answer looks good." CreationDate="2019-12-17T20:17:07.370" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19615" PostId="9587" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand yeah i know that, hence i was sceptic about it, i even has ask regarding dual wield in other site (long ago before i see this video) and they say pretty much the cons like the horse will be in the way of using the weapon because, you need reins control and cant rely much in knee control because of the weight shift upon attack, so it will relly much in the horse itself (which base of the link in my previous question and this video seems doable), but it was with HEMA community so...." CreationDate="2019-12-18T03:18:28.307" UserId="10509" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19616" PostId="9587" Score="0" Text="also i think its not like special saddle not exist like for heavy lance cavalry to mitigate them from knockout, hence why i ask maybe it exist in someone martial arts, and i dont mean they must follow the sword type in that video either as long its dual sword/ dual wielding melee weapon." CreationDate="2019-12-18T03:22:01.527" UserId="10509" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19617" PostId="9586" Score="1" Text="While I haven't found one yet, are you willing to read Western mounted glaive techniques? More of those manuals are available online." CreationDate="2019-12-18T14:32:30.357" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19618" PostId="9590" Score="0" Text="lol I don't know either xD. It's just something you wonder about sometimes. Getting punched in the boob though... ouch D:" CreationDate="2019-12-18T21:01:13.310" UserId="10526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19619" PostId="9586" Score="0" Text="@SeanDuggan its fine by me hence i include sovnya from russia. iam surprise it exist, since the HEMA community i ask long ago, say they dont have record/manual of such thing nor i found one via google." CreationDate="2019-12-18T23:16:55.557" UserId="10509" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19621" PostId="9590" Score="5" Text="Also from them getting in the way perspective - martial arts are meant to extract the most from YOUR body - so if certain techniques are prohibited by your body - you adjust. I have students with hip problems - they don't kick as much as those without - but their hands are much more honed - everyone will have stuff they excel at - and in a fight that is what you use." CreationDate="2019-12-19T10:31:31.497" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19622" PostId="9590" Score="0" Text="@Collett89 So like, a women with boobs could.... smother someone lol? I think I own that dvd xD. In seriousness, she's got more upper body weight, right? Maybe that useful for some kind of wrestling?" CreationDate="2019-12-19T11:54:02.073" UserId="10526" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19623" PostId="9590" Score="3" Text="@boxxingBetty there are positives and negatives to weight (however distributed) in every art I can think of. In traditional taekwondo where hip twist is prominent that extra mass being above the hip would obviously translate to more power (compared to someone of identical stature but smaller breasts moving at the same speed). But this is true of any technique in which body mass is being utilised  - as per F=MA and E=1/2MV^2 having extra mass directly increases the energy/force where speed/acceleration(deceleration) remain constant" CreationDate="2019-12-19T14:23:58.653" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19624" PostId="9590" Score="1" Text="Just as an aside, while it's not as sensitive as the male anatomy, the crotch in a female is also full of nerve ending tissues. They make protective gear for women as well. And as with everything, some women are more sensitive than others." CreationDate="2019-12-19T15:54:22.347" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19625" PostId="9590" Score="2" Text="@Collett89 I liked your comment so much that I quoted it in my answer. I hope that's okay." CreationDate="2019-12-19T20:56:21.367" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19626" PostId="9590" Score="2" Text="reading this remind me of [woman smashing watermelon using her breast](https://i.imgur.com/E2Ear5i.gif) including [tin can](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/05/20/285A696A00000578-0-image-m-39_1430854766097.jpg) and this [one with brick](https://i.imgur.com/vSQUAXE.gif) too" CreationDate="2019-12-20T03:57:51.500" UserId="10509" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19627" PostId="9592" Score="0" Text="I think an image would be helpful although wouldn't you need to know the name to search for it?…" CreationDate="2019-12-20T08:34:15.837" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19628" PostId="9590" Score="0" Text="@LiJun ***There are things mankind was not meant to know…*** ☺" CreationDate="2019-12-20T08:41:05.817" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19629" PostId="9589" Score="0" Text="The biggest problem I have ever encountered was the oh-so-ill fitting dogi which are either too large if they cover the chest or too small revealing a sport-bra/vest  if they fit elsewhere. Not sure that merits its own answer but if you think it does, I shall expend it." CreationDate="2019-12-20T08:49:25.270" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19630" PostId="9592" Score="0" Text="@Sardathrion-ReinstateMonica: I will try to get a recording of myself doing it. I tried poking around online... I had a vague memory of Raven from Tekken using it (and therefore would be available with Eric Jacobus doing it IRL), but that was a different technique." CreationDate="2019-12-21T15:15:51.860" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19632" PostId="8973" Score="0" Text="I am actually wondering which groin guard you used, now that you say that. I regularly use an Adidas one, and sometimes I forget I am even wearing it. Also, when you said that a kick to the female privates doesn't really hurt like a kick to the male privates, I wonder what you mean. Could just be subjective experience, but the girls where I train, frequently are unable spar for longer than the guys, unless the males were unprotected. You also said that female groin guards can deal a lot more damage than the kick itself. Besides the lymph nodes, how else might this happen?" CreationDate="2019-12-23T08:48:21.817" UserId="9983" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19633" PostId="8973" Score="0" Text="And I've taken a number of groin kicks since I have started, all of the ones since the last time I replied, with a female cup on. If you feel comfortable, would you mind me asking about groin kicks on us females as well? I don't think I know much about it at all, especially at the detail you have went to in your last responses. (Thanks a lot, by the way)." CreationDate="2019-12-23T08:52:43.233" UserId="9983" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19634" PostId="8973" Score="0" Text="So, when you don't use a groin guard as a female, you receive a kick to your private parts, just like a male does. Except our most sensitive area is a lot harder to hit and never really leaves you with unbearable pain. Yes it can hurt a lot, a kick is still a kick, and the private area is soft and sensitive, but kicks hurt. Males however have testicles, which can actually suffer irreparable damage when hit. They don't break easily for that matter, but they can break. If the testicle gets caught between the shin and a bad spot, it;'s pretty much over." CreationDate="2019-12-24T10:22:09.023" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19635" PostId="8973" Score="0" Text="Personally, I'd say hits to the other private area hurts more than to the one down there. In the chest area we have sort of little half shells, don't worry they're not green and they don't practice kung fu. But those half shells are part of the lactation process. When those receive a good kick you're in for a lot of pain. They don't damage easily though, so it's a case of grinning and bearing it. Just like any other part of your body, if the impact is big enough, it's going to get damaged.But you can't go walking around like a gigantic cushion." CreationDate="2019-12-24T10:24:44.983" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19636" PostId="9585" Score="1" Text="You might be able to learn something from watching rare footage of Bruce Lee. Bruce Lee has actually done publicised fights. And while they are not as flashy as the movies, they show he has a very clear understanding of martial arts. He controls his opponent, knows how his opponent reacts, and uses it to his advantage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky8iCpqTCzs. At 1:10, Bruce Lee pretty much invites a power side kick, and punishes him for trying. The distance wasn't optimal, but there was room. But Bruce Lee was leaning forward and knew it was coming." CreationDate="2019-12-24T11:08:43.537" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19637" PostId="9595" Score="1" Text="Do you have any sources supporting your claims? We are not quite fond of hearsay answers here." CreationDate="2019-12-24T12:16:56.360" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19638" PostId="9596" Score="0" Text="Ah, I appreciate your reply, but the strike is with the instep, not the heel. I'll clarify my question." CreationDate="2019-12-24T13:03:34.677" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19639" PostId="8973" Score="0" Text="When it comes to being hit in either of those two locations, would you say that there is a certain amount of time or a certain limit on how long you need to recover from it? I'm asking this because the other girls and I all tend to take a long time to recover from a kick to the privates. I'm wondering now how many of the guys you spar with don't use a cup, cause the guys I spar with all do, and they can walk off the vast majority of kicks to the nads in a short amount of time. I'm guessing there are more factors at work there though, than just testicles vs vulva." CreationDate="2019-12-24T17:01:53.393" UserId="9983" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19640" PostId="8973" Score="0" Text="In general, men recover faster than women, especially after a certain age. But women also tend to be less willing to put themselves over their pain and keep training. This is something I have noticed a lot. When I get hit in the privates it hurts, sure, but if there's no damage you can keep going. It's not like training with a painful coochie is going to kill you. Just noticed that a lot of women tend to get all weak when they get hit in their privates. Not sure if they're just more sensitive or they are actually just being whiny, since I don't have that problem." CreationDate="2019-12-24T17:35:06.223" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19641" PostId="8973" Score="0" Text="When a guy gets hit in the privates, they usually feel a shot of pain that keeps dragging out and gradually gets less painful. Breathing in and out deep seems to help them with that. For me, I don't really know what helps against being kicked in my privates, I just have to walk it off. Generally I take about 4 minutes to get the pain to bearable levels and I keep going." CreationDate="2019-12-24T17:36:35.717" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19642" PostId="9596" Score="1" Text="I saw the video you linked, the kick at 1:34 is not really an actual attack in any martial art. It comes from a sport called Tricking. Basically it just looks cool but has no actual value in a fight. The only application I can think of is in Shaolin Kung Fu, which has several of these types of attacks, but they are used mainly for demonstrations. Look up Shaolin Monkey Style." CreationDate="2019-12-24T17:41:29.520" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19643" PostId="9595" Score="0" Text="I added sources that predate Judo by about 400 years." CreationDate="2019-12-24T18:00:21.507" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19644" PostId="9595" Score="0" Text="I could probably find examples of Kuzushi that predate even the Muromachi time period, originating in China. That would take quite some time though, since accurate and reliable information on it is hard to find." CreationDate="2019-12-24T18:07:42.553" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19645" PostId="9575" Score="1" Text="In all honesty, there's not really any set up to these. He's able to do this because he's very fast, no other reason. He can perform the flying attack before his opponent is able to react, but it doesn't seem to apply a lot of power, resulting in his opponent remaining unfazed." CreationDate="2019-12-24T18:14:46.520" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19646" PostId="8973" Score="0" Text="Is that something that you got used to after multiple kicks down low, or were you like that from the start? I'd say I have a fairly high pain tolerance, but there is something about the privates that makes me feel like I am unable to continue, for much longer. For most kicks to the privates, I'll recover for ten-fifteen minutes, and for the really bad kicks, I'll stop training for the day to recover. If that make sure you think I am whiny, then I can understand that. I feel that the privates and how someone takes being hit there is quite varied. That's what I'm getting from you, at least." CreationDate="2019-12-25T08:40:38.887" UserId="9983" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19647" PostId="9595" Score="1" Text="Well, nobody would say that there hadn't been the thing we call kuzushi today. But just because people do it it does not mean that they conceptualize it the same way. And the question is about the concept, not its referent. That being said, historians point out that most of the &quot;style dates back to xxx&quot; stories are unfounded and mostly made up in the 20th century. While there certainly have been martial arts back then, distinct styles and lineages can solemnly be tracked down to this time." CreationDate="2019-12-25T10:22:41.137" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19648" PostId="9595" Score="0" Text="A concept is a concept. The concept has existed for a long long time, it was just never named specifically. It was part of their daily routine without having a distinct name for it. The question was if Jigoro Kano invented it. He did not invent it. He named something that existed. It's like saying Columbus invented South America." CreationDate="2019-12-25T10:57:08.663" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19649" PostId="6968" Score="1" Text="This answer addresses brain injury, but not with the risk exposure found in judo." CreationDate="2019-12-25T18:47:12.703" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19650" PostId="9483" Score="1" Text="I think you got it wrong. The Taekwondo kick was faster, the Capoeira kick had more weight behind it. that's it. For some reason the researchers in the show praised the Caporira kick for putting more weight  behind the kick instead of speed, bur combat-wise, it makes no sense. I don't know what you talking about when saying:  &quot;The Taekwon Do fighter was most likely physically fitter&quot;, &quot;it uses the entire kinetic energy&quot; ,&quot;also had a more centered impact&quot;." CreationDate="2019-12-26T09:59:40.887" UserId="10293" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19651" PostId="9599" Score="2" Text="That's a lot of information, but I'm not certain how much of it really answers the question." CreationDate="2019-12-26T17:25:55.273" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19652" PostId="9584" Score="1" Text="I've been thinking over this one, and honestly, I can't really think of much advice other than that it sounds like you just need to practice this against a static target like a heavy bag until you're not losing your balance when doing so. The odds are that you either just generally have some instability with your balancing leg, or that something in how you're throwing the kick is throwing you off. But either way, there's not a lot that can be done to fix it without being there to see that won't just be fixed with practice." CreationDate="2019-12-26T19:59:36.337" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19653" PostId="9601" Score="1" Text="Very solid answer, said pretty much what I would've." CreationDate="2019-12-27T22:14:36.363" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19654" PostId="9595" Score="0" Text="Your example is misleading. A better one would be evolution. Evolution has existed as long as life, but the conceptualisation  is much younger. In other words: Even if the *praxis* was part of martial arts for centuries (quite obviously so), the question who nailed the concept may very well be valid. You can deny the difference as much as you like, my MA in philosophy taught me to differentiate between reality and its conceptualisation which is, by the way, in fluent development. That's a central characteristic of language." CreationDate="2019-12-28T11:45:27.793" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19655" PostId="9606" Score="0" Text="Note: [The IJF](https://78884ca60822a34fb0e6-082b8fd5551e97bc65e327988b444396.ssl.cf3.rackcdn.com/up/2019/10/IJF_Sport_and_Organisation_Rul-1571922448.pdf) refers to these positions as a &quot;kata-sankaku grip&quot; (with [example images](https://i.stack.imgur.com/7rh7T.png) of anaconda-style triangles)." CreationDate="2019-12-29T00:02:09.287" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19660" PostId="9595" Score="0" Text="You're comparing two completely different things. For example, Isaac Newton did not invent the concept of Gravity. He only discovered it. Because Isaac Newton discovered Gravity, Kinetic Energy was discovered. The discovery of Kinetic Energy, which is still a law of physics, people made the concept of Kuzushi, which USES laws of physics such as Kinetic Energy and Gravity. Since Kuzushi itself is not a law of physics, it was invented. However, it was invented long before Jigoro Kano was born. Jigoro Kano only FOCUSED on this concept and made it into what Judo is today." CreationDate="2019-12-30T21:06:36.227" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19662" PostId="9616" Score="1" Text="Is this the Kodokan or IJF definition?" CreationDate="2020-01-03T21:13:25.820" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19663" PostId="9616" Score="0" Text="Kodokan is rather a school, whereas IJF is more a law &amp; standardisation organisation. IJF define criterias to judge a position as an osaekomi. Kodokan gives a name to classify technics and a DO to teach them." CreationDate="2020-01-04T09:03:02.733" UserId="7114" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19665" PostId="9616" Score="0" Text="Ah. I was just asking because the querent had asked for a definition from one of them. I'm not the querent, so I can't say if that matters. :)" CreationDate="2020-01-04T14:11:11.223" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19666" PostId="9429" Score="0" Text="Just an FYI in case you don't have an old east-Asian master who has all of the tricks &#xA;:D -- &quot;The hitting of the foot is usually used to treat kicks to the testicles...&quot; - Actually this is very helpful, but you can do it to yourself - just jump up and land on your heels several times... works like a charm." CreationDate="2020-01-06T13:50:19.060" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19667" PostId="9483" Score="0" Text="Probably doesn't help that Lateef Crowder is a big muscular guy, so he was naturally hitting with more force." CreationDate="2020-01-06T18:16:40.217" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19670" PostId="658" Score="3" Text="Just stumbled across the last sentence. With all due respect, that's nonsense or at least not clear. Good teachers will produce students that are better than they've ever been. Otherwise, all martial art would degenerate eventually and actually, that what makes a good teacher in the first place." CreationDate="2020-01-08T20:56:15.807" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19672" PostId="6741" Score="0" Text="I feel like some of these, especially the more minor ones, do not necessarily indicate a McDojo. For example, my teacher is a BJJ black belt, is 29, but I can't really check those others off the list. Also, it isn't clear when you say &quot;Buying all supplies from the Dojo/Gym&quot;, if that means that they make you, or if you just have the option of buying their equipment." CreationDate="2020-01-09T00:10:11.353" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19674" PostId="6741" Score="0" Text="@LemmyX Please see the large note right at the top: ***Note that there exists valid reasons for all of those, this is why they are only warning signs.*** While none do necessarily indicate a McDojo and have some valid reasons to exists, those are warning signs." CreationDate="2020-01-09T09:34:02.990" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19675" PostId="6741" Score="0" Text="@LemmyX A common scam is re-selling equipment at an inflated price. Sometimes, they might even modify those to make them more bespoke. For example, getting a dogi should be fine where ever you get it from as long as it is the right type. If your dojo forces you to buy their special dogi (which always costs way more than the equivalent), there is a problem. Note that having bespoke gear is fine as long as there is an understanding that you do not have to buy it. A dojo selling t-shirts with their logo, great. The same dojo forcing you to buy a t-shirt a year, not so much…" CreationDate="2020-01-09T09:38:36.797" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19677" PostId="9483" Score="0" Text="Alaychem, even if it makes no sense combat wise, because of the amount of time required to set it up, it doesn't take away the fact that the impact is massive. If you don't know what kinetic energy is, you should probably look it up. It's a very important component in the vast majority of martial arts. The impact being more centred comes from the driving force. When you push an object into an other object at a more constant speed, it's likely to deal more centred damage. Whereas pushing an object into another object really fast and hard divides the damage more." CreationDate="2020-01-11T14:02:43.350" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19678" PostId="9483" Score="0" Text="This basically means that when the damage is more centred, it deals more damage to a specific area. Whereas damages that gets divided deals damage to a bigger area, but less overall damage. The use of kinetic energy from the capoeira kick causes the driving force to be more constant. The weight is driven into the dummy and keeps going longer. The Taekwondo kick hits the dummy far shorter, resulting in quick damage to a wider area, but overall less weight is pressed into the dummy." CreationDate="2020-01-11T14:04:44.143" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19679" PostId="9483" Score="0" Text="Let's say they were to use both of these kicks on a human being of identical structural integrity, the capoeira kick would leave the human being incapacitated. Whereas the taekwondo kick would leave a big bruise instead." CreationDate="2020-01-11T14:05:19.150" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19680" PostId="9238" Score="0" Text="I Don't know what is the origin of this manoever, but I want warn that this throw is strictly forbiden in Kodokan." CreationDate="2020-01-11T14:36:04.177" UserId="7114" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19681" PostId="9200" Score="0" Text="For most promotions, no test is required." CreationDate="2020-01-11T21:16:00.047" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19682" PostId="8871" Score="0" Text="I disagree. Wresting is a kind of grappling, but not vice versa. For example, you would be wrong to call BJJ or Judo &quot;wrestling&quot;." CreationDate="2020-01-11T21:18:47.577" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19683" PostId="8540" Score="0" Text="I agree with @Collett89, but I will expand on that idea. Many martial arts are for self defense, and many(most) don't wear shoes." CreationDate="2020-01-11T21:21:27.730" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19684" PostId="8871" Score="0" Text="What do you see as the distinction?" CreationDate="2020-01-11T22:14:30.433" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19685" PostId="8871" Score="0" Text="I don't. Asking the difference between wrestling and grappling is like asking the difference between music and country. It's not that they are different, but one is a subcategory of the other." CreationDate="2020-01-12T21:39:29.183" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19686" PostId="8871" Score="1" Text="{nods} That's fair. I will keep my answer up as it is, but I do appreciate your input, which agrees with mattm's answer." CreationDate="2020-01-12T21:44:49.687" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19687" PostId="241" Score="0" Text="I do not believe that flinching is a bad thing. It is just a natural reflex (which is healthy). Getting rid of your flinch lowers your reflexes, which can be problematic. Trust me." CreationDate="2020-01-12T21:52:37.780" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19689" PostId="359" Score="0" Text="Some studies even suggest that shouting when executing a strike can make significantly more powerful." CreationDate="2020-01-13T03:22:46.813" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19691" PostId="2204" Score="0" Text="Krav Maga deal with all kinds of nonsense like this. Try it! You might also learn how to disarm an attacker who possesses a flail that is on fire." CreationDate="2020-01-13T03:46:34.680" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19692" PostId="2204" Score="0" Text="Did you just watch 'Saw 3'?" CreationDate="2020-01-13T03:47:24.740" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19693" PostId="34" Score="0" Text="Why wouldn't it be a martial art? Whoever said that it wasn't isn't smart." CreationDate="2020-01-13T03:51:55.760" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19694" PostId="264" Score="0" Text="Some martial arts deal with disarming firearms, ie Hapkido, Krav Maga." CreationDate="2020-01-13T03:53:11.907" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19695" PostId="5728" Score="0" Text="No. To extend on that, not unless you actually injure your bones. Repetitive bone injury definitely would harden them, but I strongly advise against this. If you can't figure out why, it's not your bones that are soft..." CreationDate="2020-01-13T04:00:55.350" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19696" PostId="6518" Score="0" Text="Keep in mind that while bigger people may be more powerful, smaller people have speed that bigger people can't have. So they both have advantages and disadvantages." CreationDate="2020-01-13T04:03:37.687" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19697" PostId="1520" Score="0" Text="Jujutsu usually refers to the Japanese martial art, while Jiu Jitsu usually refers to BJJ, which is actually a descendant of Judo, which is a descendant of Japanese Jujutsu." CreationDate="2020-01-13T04:07:10.407" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19698" PostId="869" Score="0" Text="Red Bull gives you wiiings!" CreationDate="2020-01-13T04:09:06.470" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19699" PostId="1926" Score="0" Text="Oh well, I guess I've been wearing mine wrong for the past two years." CreationDate="2020-01-13T04:13:01.703" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19700" PostId="9628" Score="0" Text="Boxing trains the dominant side; boxers are either orthodox or southpaw, depending on which foot leads. The front hand is the jab hand, and the rear hand is the power cross hand. Boxers use both hands, but they do not generally switch stance." CreationDate="2020-01-13T04:35:52.507" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19702" PostId="5728" Score="0" Text="@LemmyX so are all seiken hardening and shin hardening drills in karate and other disciplines waste of time?" CreationDate="2020-01-13T21:08:26.313" UserId="4367" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19703" PostId="5728" Score="1" Text="@LemmyX Please write an answer instead of answering in a comment." CreationDate="2020-01-14T17:49:14.443" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19704" PostId="5728" Score="0" Text="@mattm I left it as a comment because my answer wouldn't be long, and probably wouldn't be a very helpful one." CreationDate="2020-01-16T15:35:12.217" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19705" PostId="9630" Score="1" Text="Answers may depend on your style of TKD (that changes what you're being tested on) and what you are already training in class versus what will be on the test." CreationDate="2020-01-16T18:55:49.350" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19706" PostId="9630" Score="0" Text="This question is too broad. What is the problem to be solved here?" CreationDate="2020-01-16T20:52:08.223" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19707" PostId="9631" Score="1" Text="Wow! Thank you sir for your thoroughness answering my question! I have no doubt in my mind you are a great martial artist and well versed on technique, knowledge and power! I hope you continue your path to many more successes not just as a Taekwondo practitioner, but any other  paths towards success you take in life! Charyut! Keungnae! Kahn sa hamnida!" CreationDate="2020-01-17T00:42:47.873" UserId="9516" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19708" PostId="2884" Score="0" Text="According to IBJJF graduation standards(https://ibjjf.com/info/graduation-system/), someone under the age of 16 can only be promoted directly at graduation if they have been a green belt for at least two years." CreationDate="2020-01-17T23:27:41.223" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19710" PostId="7255" Score="0" Text="This isn't a very well-constructed question. It should be longer with more detail." CreationDate="2020-01-18T00:37:00.073" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19711" PostId="7127" Score="0" Text="You train 9 classes a week? I think that you are on a speedy path to blackbelt anyway." CreationDate="2020-01-18T00:38:49.530" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19712" PostId="6898" Score="0" Text="Someone who is a green belt and has been for at least 2 years can  get automatic promotions to purple or even brown immediately." CreationDate="2020-01-18T00:50:54.977" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19713" PostId="2020" Score="0" Text="@user6188 I think that you must be referring to something other than BRAZILLIAN Jiu Jitsu, because in BJJ you cannot get a black belt until you are 19 years old." CreationDate="2020-01-18T00:56:05.823" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19714" PostId="2041" Score="0" Text="Actually, there are IBJJF standards - https://ibjjf.com/info/graduation-system/" CreationDate="2020-01-18T00:57:11.660" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19715" PostId="2041" Score="0" Text="In these standards it includes that anyone who is grey, not yellow, or higher becomes blue." CreationDate="2020-01-18T00:58:42.707" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19716" PostId="6604" Score="0" Text="Please refrain from &quot;showing off moves&quot; on family members, classmates, or teachers, as it could result in injury or death." CreationDate="2020-01-18T01:06:18.737" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19717" PostId="5253" Score="0" Text="@mattm In BJJ there is a choke that is illegal for everyone except black belts, where the purpose is to choke above the jawline. It is surprisingly effective, and actually works. If you press someone's jaw back into their skull, especially in this case, it closes off the trachea and cuts off all air. And no, it's not a jaw crank, it's a genuine choke." CreationDate="2020-01-18T01:24:46.940" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19718" PostId="5172" Score="0" Text="I have no red tip on either side. I also believe that the black end goes on the left, not the right." CreationDate="2020-01-18T01:27:49.900" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19719" PostId="4949" Score="0" Text="I think that there is a reason that it's called a BJJ gi, and that reason is that IT IS MEANT FOR BJJ! If you use a judo gi you will most likely be the only one in your class not wearing a BJJ gi." CreationDate="2020-01-18T01:32:09.567" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19720" PostId="7127" Score="0" Text="Hi im on reddit. I still train after 2 years...i pulled back cause it was affecting my work...i have been doing 3 classes a week consistently....might increase this year." CreationDate="2020-01-19T10:25:42.037" UserId="4270" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19721" PostId="9582" Score="0" Text="Nice answer. Since techniques tend to be classified according to contact/control points, I think it is crucial to point out that a) harai goshi has the contact points typical for koshi-waza, while yama-arashi has the ones typical for te-waza and b) harai-goshi uses the leg to attack (lift) and tilt around the hip, while in yama-arashi, it is rather an extension of the whole body, making the throw attack the whole of uke's body. Essentially, not differentiating here is like saying that o-goshi and ippon-seoi-nage are the same because of their superficial resemblance." CreationDate="2020-01-19T16:16:26.577" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19726" PostId="9637" Score="2" Text="Please punctuate to separate your thoughts into sentences. I am not able to understand what you are trying to say." CreationDate="2020-01-20T03:31:11.263" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19727" PostId="9635" Score="0" Text="I do not fully agree with it. For sure if you are more professional or more skilled you can control better your skills." CreationDate="2020-01-20T10:05:51.157" UserId="5818" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19728" PostId="8568" Score="1" Text="Thank you! I'm not 100% certain it was either of these words though. Feet were parallel and in &quot;relaxed&quot; position (not touching each other, not too far apart), and we would stretch down while keeping the back upstraight and feet flat on the floor, as far as possible." CreationDate="2020-01-20T11:58:59.513" UserId="6015" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19729" PostId="9638" Score="1" Text="I've sometimes searched endlessly for kata interpretations, but it's a wild west.  A great harm was done when kata got perpetuated without interpretation.  The only people who seem to have confidence in their interpretation are those who train in other arts, but unfortunately, my time for martial arts is limited.  It's all that I can do to preserve what I know about the kata, in a naive way.  I'm just trying to mitigate the naivity a bit." CreationDate="2020-01-21T01:04:06.083" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19730" PostId="9638" Score="0" Text="It isn't quite a wild west. There are rules available to help with interpretation. The people who made kata didn't just throw them together randomly. They were structured very carefully according to some well defined conventions. When you understand the conventions they used, it makes it a *lot* simpler." CreationDate="2020-01-21T10:50:37.220" UserId="10587" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19731" PostId="9638" Score="0" Text="I've tried, but the information is from reading forums like this, and I'm reading the various accounts without the benefit of taking other arts.  Videos help, but since the interpretations aren't all the same, I really wonder about what I see sometimes.  Even the ones that the viewers laud." CreationDate="2020-01-21T11:44:14.967" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19732" PostId="9638" Score="1" Text="Some rules which I have found useful for analysing kata which may help. 1. The head always looks at the opponent. 2. The opponent begins in front of you. 3. Kata are made up of independent sequences appended together one after another. 4. Turns at the beginning of a sequence indicate YOU moving round the opponent, not turning to face a second opponent. 5. A closed hand usually represents a *grip or hold* of the opponent. 6. Sequences always defeat the opponent. 7. Movements are done to completion. Meaning they may go past the point they would in reality. 8. Applications are valid across style." CreationDate="2020-01-21T13:39:41.123" UserId="10587" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19733" PostId="9635" Score="0" Text="Also doubtful about that... I'm a longtime student of ITF TKD (some exposure to Hapkido) who is seldom in &quot;the zone&quot; while sparring (great concentration, techniques and combinations arising spontaneously). If I were to train in two disparate arts like that I can imagine myself, for example, focussing on what the next strike should be and not anticipating a takedown from the other guy." CreationDate="2020-01-21T16:29:20.577" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19734" PostId="9638" Score="0" Text="@user2153235 As someone who had his share of a number of arts (including Shorin Ryu karate) besides my main art Judo, I'd strongly suggest that the movements are indeed involving some kind of arm manipulation (most credible instructors of bunkai seem to think so as well). May be an armlock, may be a pull plus strike, may be throw. But no matter which kind of technique one chooses, there is an opposite movement of arms and the knuckles will end up **at least** at the side of the elbow, if not even near the side of your hip with proper hiki-te (the version I was actually taught for kihon IIRC)." CreationDate="2020-01-21T22:00:44.120" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19735" PostId="9638" Score="0" Text="Having said this, the whole idea of &quot;supporting&quot; the elbow seems to be wrong in the first place. Wrong with regard to actual, realistic application of morote uke as a movement in a fight. Not necessarily wrong with regard to how techniques or movements are understood, standardised, and taught in a given (branch or organisation of an) art." CreationDate="2020-01-21T22:05:42.117" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19736" PostId="9638" Score="0" Text="@philip-klöcking One of the problems of karate and kata is that a movement in a kata can have an entirely different purpose to an identical movement at a different point even within the same kata. The 3 shuto-uke movements of Pinan Shodan for example each have *entirely* different purposes. They are stylisations of the real movements. The result is that shuto-uke is then given many interpretations. I would argue that the process of standardisation and stylisation is itself misguided... Or rather, it is deliberate obfuscation." CreationDate="2020-01-22T15:00:35.537" UserId="10587" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19737" PostId="7720" Score="0" Text="Look into this book by an American who did so: https://www.amazon.com/American-Shaolin-Flying-Buddhist-Odyssey-ebook/dp/B000PDYVR0    I remember him mentioning how various of the monks there were not there necessarily for enlightenment." CreationDate="2020-01-22T17:56:37.967" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19738" PostId="9638" Score="0" Text="I would not call standardisation as such a problem. I think the whole idea of special styles, schools, and (to some extent) martial arts is. This is mostly about the egos of self-proclaimed &quot;masters&quot; wanting to ensure their &quot;legacy&quot; by deviating from standards and making their interpretation gospel." CreationDate="2020-01-23T10:36:00.543" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19739" PostId="9635" Score="0" Text="@AmorphousBlob First of all, I said PROBABLY, secondly, worrying about someone taking you down when you know they won't isn't a major problem, if even a problem at all. I meant that it wouldn't ruin either of those skills to try the other one; reflexes from one of them crossing into the other doesn't really count. Thanks for your feedback though!" CreationDate="2020-01-23T23:09:59.003" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19740" PostId="9640" Score="0" Text="This is a question mostly for your dentist. It probably won't damage the alignment of your teeth, since that generally requires hard plastic fittings. You never know, though, so you can talk with your dentist to find out... But you probably already know the real answer: Just keep trying different products until one fits. Eventually you'll find something that isn't terrible." CreationDate="2020-01-24T04:06:08.547" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19741" PostId="8498" Score="1" Text="THAT should be an accepted answer. Existence of such clubs and marketing schemes offends the very spirit of martial arts and schools. The martial art school is not about profit and not about advertising and marketing. In fact it is an opposite thing to all that. The spirit of MA school about learning and advanicng. When you enter it, and spell to the sensei &quot;I am John, please, teach me&quot;. Not &quot;I am John and I'm here to learn the 'most effective MA' &quot;. NO AT ALL. Even positioning MA as &quot;the most effective&quot; injures the spirit - because it undermines other MAs and work of their students." CreationDate="2020-01-24T07:43:20.697" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19742" PostId="79" Score="0" Text="Are you saying that I could vomit because I punch someone with my other hand?" CreationDate="2020-01-26T16:27:17.843" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19743" PostId="7719" Score="0" Text="Someone I know recently became a master with no previous experience" CreationDate="2020-01-26T16:32:38.817" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19744" PostId="79" Score="0" Text="I am not saying that. Please let me know what part of the answer leads you to think this and will adjust it." CreationDate="2020-01-27T12:59:30.827" UserId="68" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19745" PostId="9644" Score="2" Text="This doesn't answer the question; it doesn't have enough detail." CreationDate="2020-01-27T13:30:28.643" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19746" PostId="9645" Score="1" Text="Who said jump kicks are bad over 40, by the way? That's new to me. But yeah, my knees are trash these days, and I suspect my early days with TKD contributed to it. If you have knee problems, it's time to see a sports medicine doctor to get it diagnosed. Then you get told whether or not you should continue doing jump kicks. Elastic bands do nothing. Nothing. They provide no extra structure. They don't warm your tendons. Etc. They're placebo. But it helps you remember not to mess your knee up, so that's why they're valuable." CreationDate="2020-01-28T14:17:12.403" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19747" PostId="9645" Score="0" Text="Oh, and I'll second the answers here about strengthening your muscles around the knee. If you ever have bad enough knee pain that you go to a sports medicine doctor, and he prescribes some physical therapy for you, the main thing they often tell patients to do is some strengthening exercises that work the lower quadricep muscles. They might have you do wall squats or something. That will help keep the knee from wobbling around as you do stuff. Flexibility in the knee is a hallmark of TKD, and I suspect it contributes to knee instability, so you need to strengthen those quad muscles. Good luck." CreationDate="2020-01-28T15:38:33.403" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19748" PostId="8498" Score="0" Text="Do you have evidence for your first claim about &quot;business on a for profit basis&quot; vs &quot;social clubs&quot;? can't other MA be profit-oriented? TKD and Judo are Olympic combat sports, are you that money is never involved?" CreationDate="2020-01-29T12:32:07.670" UserId="10293" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19750" PostId="9651" Score="0" Text="What length of session is this for? (approach would vary a lot if its 10 mins or 30 or 60).&#xA;I'd also check with your association what you are covered to teach in such sessions (and check what is covered by works insurance etc.) Don't put yourself at unnecessary risk (sue culture being what it is these days)" CreationDate="2020-01-30T13:33:03.983" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19751" PostId="9651" Score="0" Text="Added that detail to the question: in my experience should be 10-20 mins max. And yes, should be low intensity and low risk, and suitable to all sizes and ages. I've seen people doing jumping jacks, but I personally wouldn't go that far." CreationDate="2020-01-30T13:36:47.480" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19752" PostId="9651" Score="0" Text="Would you have everybody participate, or just a couple of volunteers up on stage? There are a lot of inflexible and overweight people over 40 or 50 I work with who I definitely wouldn't want to see do jumping jacks. Apart from concerns like that, you and I would find presentations like this interesting to lead, and to experience if we were transported back to our pre-MA days, but in my experience a lot of people would have absolutely zero interest in it, and a very few would have a negative reaction (&quot;I don't want to think about fighting!&quot;)." CreationDate="2020-01-30T13:49:49.337" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19753" PostId="9651" Score="0" Text="I would like to include everyone, as much as possible. It should be leisure and uplifting moment, and not a challenge or real exercise." CreationDate="2020-01-30T13:53:34.323" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19754" PostId="9651" Score="2" Text="I would avoid kicking. You're going to have a wide variety of footwear and balance abilities. Stick with something *everyone* can do and feel good about. You don't want to embarrass anyone right before a meeting." CreationDate="2020-01-30T14:18:27.677" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19755" PostId="8498" Score="1" Text="Money can be involved in a great many martial arts. But I have never seen a krav maga school that was a club as opposed to a business." CreationDate="2020-01-30T14:25:06.007" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19756" PostId="8498" Score="2" Text="There are indeed for profit judo clubs and taekwondo clubs and boxing and kickboxing too. They tend to charge more than the not for profit equivalent. I attend a not for profit. 5 3-6th Dan judo instructors (that's about 30 years practice) most national level in their day. £4 per 2 hours. Central London." CreationDate="2020-01-30T14:30:07.720" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19757" PostId="9651" Score="0" Text="This is an opinion based question. More of a call for discussion than anything. But I'll add my 2 cents. No contact. No hard stuff. Gotta be easy. No bag work. No kicks. That leaves you with some real basic stuff. I'd teach them something like a simplified first form. You learn the ready position. You learn the front stance and how to step forward and turn in it. You learn the down block and front punch. Then you learn how to combine them and step in a &quot;+&quot; formation similar to chon-ji hyung. Takes about 15 minutes to learn. And that is their first, simplified form. Add ki-hap for bonus points." CreationDate="2020-01-31T04:28:20.147" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19760" PostId="9656" Score="0" Text="Do you have a source to back up your answer?" CreationDate="2020-02-03T11:36:59.857" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19761" PostId="6527" Score="0" Text="I'm not an expert, but parrying down with front-hand may be VERY dangerous. Jab may be followed with right punch - it would be difficult to rise front-hand back to block." CreationDate="2020-02-03T11:59:12.230" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19764" PostId="2963" Score="0" Text="My coach probably wouldn't know, his posture is horrible(he walks like a penguin)." CreationDate="2020-02-04T23:33:41.847" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19765" PostId="4694" Score="0" Text="This is irreverent." CreationDate="2020-02-04T23:53:44.170" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19766" PostId="5172" Score="0" Text="Or at least, that's how the Gracies do it." CreationDate="2020-02-04T23:57:57.620" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19767" PostId="2761" Score="0" Text="@recursiverecursion They are part of the kids belt system." CreationDate="2020-02-05T00:03:27.770" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19768" PostId="2761" Score="0" Text="Orange belt at 7 months? That's almost unheard of!" CreationDate="2020-02-05T00:03:59.790" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19769" PostId="5172" Score="0" Text="@LemmyX, That is not true. I'm looking to a post of Renso, He clear said, there are not rules for that from the family." CreationDate="2020-02-05T00:19:16.643" UserId="5818" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19770" PostId="9657" Score="1" Text="Not entirely serious: Test your low kicks...if the bag moves each time you hit it low, you are doing good ones ;P" CreationDate="2020-02-05T10:29:02.603" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19771" PostId="8480" Score="0" Text="I haven't researched this, but intuitively it seems these would be banned in Judo (and hence BJJ) because finger locks were banned very early on (due to the likelihood of injury) and it seems the natural defence to this kind of choke would be grabbing and bending the finger." CreationDate="2020-02-05T13:59:42.687" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19772" PostId="5172" Score="0" Text="@AFetter Yes I figured that out since I posted that." CreationDate="2020-02-05T15:15:15.463" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19773" PostId="9661" Score="0" Text="Please take the [tour](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour). This sounds like you have a new question, not that you are answering the existing one. If so, please start a new question." CreationDate="2020-02-05T16:51:56.153" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19774" PostId="9659" Score="0" Text="The link does not work on multiple connections. Try re-attaching it." CreationDate="2020-02-05T20:54:37.043" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19775" PostId="9659" Score="0" Text="What link? The image?" CreationDate="2020-02-05T20:58:30.553" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19776" PostId="9659" Score="0" Text="Yes. It says that the connection was reset." CreationDate="2020-02-05T21:30:06.803" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19778" PostId="6604" Score="0" Text="OP here, I am not proud of this question" CreationDate="2020-02-06T20:22:33.567" UserId="7244" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19782" PostId="9662" Score="3" Text="Here are a couple of related questions: [*How to condition knuckles?*](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/8065/70), [*Is hitting hard objects really effective in making bones harder?*](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/5728/70)." CreationDate="2020-02-08T11:00:38.367" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19783" PostId="9663" Score="0" Text="I think that's what they're asking, what the trick is to doing that." CreationDate="2020-02-08T14:21:28.143" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19784" PostId="9424" Score="0" Text="https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/9602/judo-techniques-with-their-origin-in-bjj/9664" CreationDate="2020-02-08T22:18:23.403" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19785" PostId="9602" Score="0" Text="This is a question whose likely best answer is &quot;maybe, but probably not&quot;, at least until there is a serious effort to research if there is any evidence of such. What makes formulating a decent answer to this question difficult is that you can easily find examples of techniques that many in the more insular areas of the BJJ community believe is unique to their discipline but have been and continue to be used in Judo Ne-Waza; which should not be surprising considering that BJJ is in fact a derivative of Judo." CreationDate="2019-12-28T12:24:38.180" UserId="7790" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19786" PostId="9502" Score="0" Text="Japan isn't the only country who's martial arts have &quot;do&quot; in it, such as Korea, which has TaekwanDO and HapkiDO, and I believe that there is such thing as Hapkijitsu, but I'm not 100% on that." CreationDate="2020-02-10T02:04:43.243" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19787" PostId="9665" Score="0" Text="Have you tried anything from those other, similar, posts? If so, what have you tried and why didn't it help?" CreationDate="2020-02-10T11:48:36.730" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19790" PostId="5731" Score="0" Text="The paper you cited doesn't support your claim - it only states that microdamaged bone is replaced with &quot;mechanically stronger bone to help **preserve** bone strength&quot;, not that the new bone is stronger than undamaged bone." CreationDate="2020-02-10T12:05:02.573" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19792" PostId="9332" Score="1" Text="Does this answer your question? [King of Iron Palm Training](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/9334/king-of-iron-palm-training)" CreationDate="2020-02-11T09:26:10.453" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19793" PostId="9183" Score="0" Text="Does this answer your question? [King of Iron Palm Training](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/9334/king-of-iron-palm-training)" CreationDate="2020-02-11T09:30:17.027" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19794" PostId="9669" Score="0" Text="There are tons of weight vests, but unless the weight being central to the back is the cause, they all have shoulder straps like a backpack would." CreationDate="2020-02-11T14:36:08.850" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19795" PostId="9669" Score="0" Text="What is the maximum weight you are trying to carry?" CreationDate="2020-02-11T16:51:44.553" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19796" PostId="9667" Score="0" Text="Would protective gear really help though? Most people don't mind getting bruised or cut, it's more the concussive damage to the head. Great drill suggestion though." CreationDate="2020-02-11T20:25:04.243" UserId="10634" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19797" PostId="9669" Score="0" Text="I carry about 25 pounds sometimes.  If conditioning gets better, I imagine hauling around 40 pounds.  I'm imagining that something that pulls the shoulder straps toward the centre front, e.g., solar plexus area, might help.  That would probably cause them portion that actually rides on the shoulder to move toward the neck, i.e., away from the tip of the collar bone.  My backpack as a cross strap that pulls the shoulder strap toward the solar plexus, but not very much." CreationDate="2020-02-12T02:02:50.720" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19798" PostId="9669" Score="0" Text="I hope that I'm right about the desirability of this pull toward the solar plexus.  I could be misconceived about it.  For example, if it causes the portion that rides on the shoulder to move too much against my neck, that's not good either.  Because of the skin aggravation, or maybe even restricting blood flow.  But if it's a commercial product, they probably already account for this and design accordingly" CreationDate="2020-02-12T02:09:10.127" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19799" PostId="9669" Score="0" Text="@mattm: Thanks to the tip about &quot;weight vests&quot;.  I was googling the wrong words!" CreationDate="2020-02-12T02:16:08.083" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19800" PostId="9670" Score="0" Text="Thanks. Very useful and definitive, especially in terms of sources" CreationDate="2020-02-12T10:27:32.417" UserId="4367" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19801" PostId="9491" Score="0" Text="@MacacoBranco While this is not the thread (or even the community) for this type of correction, 40 in the Hebrew Bible is used literally, not hyperbolically (40 days of the flood/40 years in the desert are literal). Specifically, in the Hebrew Bible (speaking about the Jewish Bible in its original Hebrew, not the Christian Bible, I can't speak on that), the number 7, or sometimes 70, is used as in a hyperbolic sense--see, for example, Genesis 4:24." CreationDate="2020-02-12T15:34:18.733" UserId="10104" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19802" PostId="9491" Score="0" Text="@Yehuda: Huh. I had heard differently. I'll be sure to couch my comment as a &quot;some people say this&quot; in the future." CreationDate="2020-02-12T15:42:37.127" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19803" PostId="578" Score="0" Text="While not an answer, Bruce Bookman Sensei (Tenzan Aikido--Seattle) has begun development of Aikido responses to kickboxing and Muay Thai, in an effort to make Aikido more &quot;practical,&quot; rather than the traditional, sword-based art it was for decades." CreationDate="2020-02-12T15:47:45.853" UserId="10104" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19804" PostId="1927" Score="0" Text="Could you add a summary of what the two links say about the two ways of tying a kimono?" CreationDate="2020-02-13T09:18:02.917" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19805" PostId="1927" Score="0" Text="@MikeP I am afraid I will not. I am no longer contributing to SE until such a time that they stop being evil towards their users." CreationDate="2020-02-13T10:54:50.440" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19806" PostId="9672" Score="0" Text="The organisation I train with has different doboks for coloured belts and black belts (lighter weight, zip front tunic), so simply changing the collar wouldn't be sufficient." CreationDate="2020-02-13T11:18:22.810" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19807" PostId="9672" Score="1" Text="Hmm, good to know. I usually see those as specific for Poomsae competition, and the V neck ones as the official one for regular classes/practice." CreationDate="2020-02-13T11:20:20.497" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19808" PostId="9673" Score="0" Text="Thanks. I’m curious, is there a chance you could add some photos?" CreationDate="2020-02-13T14:15:21.710" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19809" PostId="9673" Score="0" Text="@DanielReis - Photos of...my dobok?" CreationDate="2020-02-13T14:16:18.763" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19811" PostId="9676" Score="0" Text="We also have guidelines for how to ask about [martial arts recommendations](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic). There is also the [tour](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/tour)." CreationDate="2020-02-13T21:44:17.840" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19814" PostId="9677" Score="2" Text="It is always - and especially at this age - all about the instructor, not the style. Children at this age need constant activity and dragging of their attention or they will eventually do something which the instructor does not like. Other ways work for some, especially in cultures where other ethics are prevalent (ever seen Japanese children training at that age? It's insane(ly intense) and impossible in western society). From your description, this instructor should not work with very young children. I write this as a comment since I am afraid that single case questions are a bad fit here." CreationDate="2020-02-14T09:54:43.233" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19815" PostId="9677" Score="1" Text="@PhilipKlöcking - Actually, if you expanded it slightly that would make for a good answer." CreationDate="2020-02-14T14:12:18.133" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19816" PostId="9678" Score="2" Text="Thank you so much! That gives me a lot more insight. I'm working with my son on understanding the expectations to earn his belt back so he will be prepared the next time we go. I plan to give him opportunities before class to get the &quot;wiggles out&quot; or burn off extra energy. His misbehavior in class is making faces in the mirror, playing with his weapon when he should be watching, trying to touch items in the room (if he gets too close while doing the forms or routines (I'm not sure of the correct terminology yet) being distracted by  noise on the sideline. He also talks too much.  Any advice?" CreationDate="2020-02-14T17:01:24.763" UserId="10643" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19817" PostId="9678" Score="2" Text="@Newuser1977 - Honestly, at this stage, I wouldn't worry too much about black belt. That's a more nebulous goal, and they may not understand that there are many belts between then and now. Encourage the next belt and small steps for goals at first. Be aware its there, but not the primary focus. As for wanting to touch everything, play with stuff, that's also normal because it's all &quot;new&quot;. Once it becomes routine, it becomes much less interesting. Similar with chatter, and once he gets accustomed and sees his peer group acting in a certain way, it will be easier for him to behave." CreationDate="2020-02-14T18:00:10.657" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19818" PostId="9678" Score="0" Text="Oh I'm sorry let me clarify. I'm working with him to get his white belt that was taken away the other day back. I have not had any conversations with him about belt testing or the next level. We are so new that we didn't sign up for the last belt testing because he had only been there a few times." CreationDate="2020-02-14T18:12:13.207" UserId="10643" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19819" PostId="9678" Score="0" Text="Thank you for the encouragement. I've already seen growth with him just in chiming in with the tiny tiger oath and following along with what everybody's doing! The majority of the kids are older in his class, so I'm hoping that he does watch his peers like you mentioned and grow in that direction." CreationDate="2020-02-14T18:14:28.597" UserId="10643" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19820" PostId="9678" Score="0" Text="Quick question for you from your experience as an instructor and a parent. I'm buying his gear just a little at a time. I bought him the short stick. And he &quot;played&quot; a lot with it the first class he used it, and got in a little trouble for playing with it. Would it be a good idea to let him explore the weapons and the gear  at home before he uses it in class? I just purchased the head, foot and hand gear about 10 minutes before the instructor took his belt away. It was kind of a mixed message because I told him we were going to purchase the gear since He seemed to be enjoying karate." CreationDate="2020-02-14T18:24:17.990" UserId="10643" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19821" PostId="9678" Score="0" Text="@Newuser1977 - Sure. I practice with the boys a little most days. I don't &quot;teach&quot; (especially in my case) because I want to be &quot;the dad&quot; and not &quot;the instructor&quot;. I let them get familiar with the equipment, but I also don't turn it into a toy. Tiny Tigers, is this an ATA school? (I ask because I am ATA)." CreationDate="2020-02-14T18:28:46.957" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19822" PostId="9678" Score="0" Text="We are starting to clutter up the comments, however you can always come [in the chat room](https://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/79444/open-roda) now that you have the reputation, it's a bit freer to talk there." CreationDate="2020-02-14T18:30:15.300" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19823" PostId="9678" Score="0" Text="Yes this is an ATA school. Thank you so much. I will definitely spend some time letting him get used to the gear and to practice a little each day. We have been attending for right at about 2 months now. We had a 3-month promotional deal. His father and I are trying to decide whether or not to sign him up for further lessons. We have about two more weeks before We travel. So I've got about two more weeks to decide whether or not we want to continue. They've given us two options of a 12-month or 6-month commitment." CreationDate="2020-02-14T18:34:08.097" UserId="10643" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19824" PostId="9678" Score="0" Text="I would love to sign him up for an extra month just to see how it goes before committing to a 6-month or 12-month." CreationDate="2020-02-14T18:36:24.267" UserId="10643" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19825" PostId="9678" Score="0" Text="Let us [continue this discussion in chat](https://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/104476/discussion-between-newuser1977-and-johnp)." CreationDate="2020-02-14T18:37:08.767" UserId="10643" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19828" PostId="9680" Score="1" Text="thank you so much for your advice, it does help!" CreationDate="2020-02-16T01:23:18.617" UserId="10643" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19829" PostId="9680" Score="0" Text="A quick update: my husband took our son to class today and he earned his belt back. My husband did get a minute to touch base with the instructor to get his assessment on how our kiddo is doing, and he said he's doing as expected for his age. Thank you everyone for sharing your experience and insight. It helped me understand everything better." CreationDate="2020-02-16T01:30:15.500" UserId="10643" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19830" PostId="9680" Score="0" Text="@Newuser1977 Glad to hear it. It sounds like your kid's instructor probably does this all the time with new kids this age. This is the only way to really get kids to follow along and pay attention. Without that kind of discipline right at the beginning, the kids would have been just all over the place, not paying attention and goofing off. It's rare to find an instructor who has that worked out. So many are in it just for the money and wouldn't dare do anything to make parents upset and lose a student. Good luck!" CreationDate="2020-02-16T03:16:44.437" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19831" PostId="9683" Score="0" Text="Cruising the internet for quite some time and all I turned up with is that it may be some kind of yoko-sutemi-waza, since he allegedly preferred those in general. Maybe yoko-wakare? Don't think it was classified/named by then and would suit his build. Would also fit in with his relation to Mifune (who, IIRC, was the one classifying/naming it later on)." CreationDate="2020-02-17T02:48:55.567" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19832" PostId="9683" Score="0" Text="Possible further info: [*Hiden* (秘伝), &quot;Tengu Nage&quot; (May 1994, p.102-107)](https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=L13P2hF33PUC&amp;pg=PT230&amp;lpg=PT230&amp;dq=%22tengu-nage%22)" CreationDate="2020-02-17T12:22:32.830" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19833" PostId="9683" Score="1" Text="Seen that one, too. Doesn't appear to be too helpful, though, since sources citing it - including the book itself - are still stating it to be unclear what throw it refers to, supposedly a judgement built on this source." CreationDate="2020-02-17T12:26:18.620" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19836" PostId="1182" Score="0" Text="Thanks for sharing. I just did mine on Sunday at an interclub, a super light spar and all, and in prep for a big fight in March. Really cool to know I can come back, and can compete :)" CreationDate="2020-02-19T15:02:21.143" UserId="10654" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19837" PostId="1182" Score="0" Text="@Leema - Absolutely. There are no guarantees, but just get the best surgeon you can (I was lucky to have a surgeon group that supports pro teams on my insurance), and do the rehab. It's about a year process." CreationDate="2020-02-19T16:28:36.180" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19838" PostId="9696" Score="1" Text="This is very similar to https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/9677/is-my-3-years-old-reprimand-experience-in-karate-today-par-for-the-course, and unfortunately, I think we similarly have an opinion question here." CreationDate="2020-02-19T20:24:38.167" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19840" PostId="9696" Score="0" Text="I think we need questions like this.  A great many martial arts students are children and parents who don't practice themselves may not understand the culture of various styles.  This particular question is not worded particularly objectively but there are two objective questions there.  &quot;is this normal?&quot; and &quot;is this appropriate?&quot;" CreationDate="2020-02-20T12:11:28.967" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19841" PostId="9697" Score="0" Text="Thank you. He has not been told to practice at home. And he attends class 3 to 4 times a week.( I was not trying to be not objective.)And he practices with other belt colors when his group is done and from my eyes seems to know them. I hesitate to compare him with the 3 year old question because he is 9 and is not a behavior issue. Quite the opposite. And he is dedicated to class and he loves going. Thank you for your answer. It helps." CreationDate="2020-02-20T13:42:21.780" UserId="10656" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19842" PostId="9696" Score="0" Text="@HuwEvans If you identify there are objective questions, you can edit directly to make this apparent." CreationDate="2020-02-20T15:15:18.877" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19843" PostId="8538" Score="0" Text="Thanks again mr. Jennings... I have adopted daily walking with some running every weekday even when going to train in the evening (I try to train in class 3 times a week...) I definitely could use more stretching and explore some of the ideas you’ve presented here... Keungnae! Kahn sa hamnida!" CreationDate="2020-02-20T18:26:02.503" UserId="9516" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19844" PostId="9701" Score="0" Text="It's not clear to me why you are vocal in disagreement with Dave but not with me. I think the bottom leg should be bent but not tucked, while you advocate that the leg should be straight. Are you trying to state that a (mostly) straight bottom leg is not suboptimal for rolling to stand up?" CreationDate="2020-02-20T18:31:30.597" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19845" PostId="9701" Score="0" Text="Sorry to hear that you hurt your knee landing with a straight leg. I have never heard of that, and would have to ask my teachers about it.&#xA;&#xA;Like Kyle says in the video that I shared, landing in the right position is the most important thing. Rolling back into a standing position is stylish, but not very important." CreationDate="2020-02-20T19:19:47.817" UserId="10658" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19846" PostId="9696" Score="0" Text="I am willing to accept that I might be the outlier here." CreationDate="2020-02-20T19:26:15.657" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19847" PostId="9704" Score="0" Text="This is another example of why I was looking for a [canonical newaza resource](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/9086/5961). I was looking at a copy of Kashiwazaki's Shimewaza book the other day, and I remember these were in it, but not what they were called. Would you consider this a Kodokan classification?" CreationDate="2020-02-20T22:00:03.107" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19848" PostId="9704" Score="0" Text="@mattm unfortunately Kashiwazaki's *Fighting Judo* doesn't give classifications for these chokes - he calls them *koshi-jime* and *shime-waza* (counter to *ippon-seoi-nage*) respectively." CreationDate="2020-02-20T22:07:55.997" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19849" PostId="9704" Score="0" Text="Koshi jime isn't a classification?" CreationDate="2020-02-20T22:08:51.447" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19850" PostId="6037" Score="0" Text="I would like to add that tucking for a roll makes more sense if you intend to *turn* while standing up, ie. to face a person standing behind you after your roll. That's impossible to do fluently without tucking. This is, IMHO, the only reason justifying the much higher risk of knee injuries (also thinking of self-defense without a soft, clean mat). Apart from that, I fully agree with the slightly bent approach from a Judo perspective. One straight, one relatively strongly bent (as I've been taught as well) is much more dangerous not only for my knee(s), but also for the heel of the bent leg." CreationDate="2020-02-20T22:16:11.180" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19851" PostId="9704" Score="0" Text="@mattm ah, I meant under one of the [12 recognised classifications](http://kodokanjudoinstitute.org/en/waza/list/#a2-3) - it could of course not come under any of them and be a novel type of technique in the Kodokan's eyes. [Here](https://youtu.be/Htm2UDhEC_Y?t=4616) is a video series by Kashiwazaki illustrating his ne-waza techniques, haven't watched all of it myself yet, he might elucidate here." CreationDate="2020-02-20T22:17:36.550" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19852" PostId="9696" Score="0" Text="Watch out, that could be a sign of a McDojo. Check this out to see if any others apply, too:https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/6739/what-are-the-signs-that-a-dojo-could-be-classed-as-a-mcdojo" CreationDate="2020-02-21T00:33:47.707" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19853" PostId="9702" Score="0" Text="Welcome to the site! If you think you have an answer, please try to add as much detail as possible, otherwise, put it in the comments." CreationDate="2020-02-21T00:37:38.337" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19854" PostId="9702" Score="0" Text="&quot;You must have 50 reputation to comment&quot;. Will do when I can. Thanks for the tip." CreationDate="2020-02-21T01:04:12.863" UserId="10658" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19855" PostId="9704" Score="0" Text="It's interesting that kagato-jime (or any kind of ashi-jime) is not recognised. Probably because it is so obscure and relatively low percentage." CreationDate="2020-02-21T10:04:42.283" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19856" PostId="9704" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking *Kagato-jime* is considered a variant of [*hadaka-jime*](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvOMQl1Qmow&amp;feature=youtu.be&amp;t=369), officially." CreationDate="2020-02-21T10:07:04.543" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19857" PostId="9701" Score="1" Text="I think you misunderstand: having both legs **slightly** bent is Kodokan standard (see Nage-no-kata!). Also, being able to look back is not the same as facing the other way (with your chest and hip). In the video, he has his upper leg bent quite a lot. That's actually what I consider a *shortcut* (as in: bad form to make it easier) to a standing position." CreationDate="2020-02-21T10:13:00.983" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19858" PostId="9704" Score="0" Text="I would actually not call this kagato-jime. It may be just me, but kagato-jime is from guard, holding and pulling both lapels, having the ankle in front of uke's neck pushing. That wouldn't qualify for hadaka since the gi is used." CreationDate="2020-02-21T10:16:47.390" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19859" PostId="9704" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking true, this is kind of an 'inverted' version, with the forearm applying the pressure as opposed to the shin. But given the Kodokan calls this hadaka-jime, I presume the more usual [gogoplata](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gogoplata) version is also such. I'm not sure how the version you describe (pulling the lapels, as in Mikonosuke Kawaishi's book My Method of Judo) would be classified." CreationDate="2020-02-21T10:30:41.480" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19860" PostId="9704" Score="1" Text="Well, in the quite peculiar German nomenclature, it's simply a ashi-jime technique ;)" CreationDate="2020-02-21T10:33:30.790" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19861" PostId="9706" Score="0" Text="I think the ambiguity comes from whether it is an active fixation of the shoulder, or a one-handed choke against a passive thigh. Depending on whether one or the other is more prominent, you technically end up with a different classification." CreationDate="2020-02-21T11:50:58.853" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19862" PostId="9706" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking Looking at the Kodokan shime-waza video, it seems the [two variants of *kata-te-jime*](https://youtu.be/yvOMQl1Qmow?t=835) are distinguished by one hand/wrist applying the strangle, and the other hand pinning uke by holding their belt (either attacking the guard, or the turtle)." CreationDate="2020-02-21T13:28:12.970" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19864" PostId="9657" Score="1" Text="It's ironic that people are always knocking them over with their strikes, but they can't manage to tip it just enough to start rolling it." CreationDate="2020-02-22T00:11:17.883" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19865" PostId="9701" Score="0" Text="Looking at pictures in the Kodokan Judo book, I can see that the &quot;bottom&quot; leg is slightly bent. What I mean to say is don't tuck the leg and bend it under the other. Also, turning around to face an opponent at the end of your roll seems like something out of a movie." CreationDate="2020-02-22T17:28:00.267" UserId="10658" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19866" PostId="9677" Score="0" Text="@Lemmyx This was about my child's white belt. My child had it taken away for misbehavior and earned it back in another class session." CreationDate="2020-02-23T00:06:22.123" UserId="10643" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19867" PostId="9708" Score="0" Text="And just to add a note, off the record, the main criticism of KSW is that its founder essentially based it all on Hapkido and Taekwondo, with a bit of kung-fu style (Hung Gar?) he learned briefly from one of his friends. According to them, he pretty much made the whole thing up about its Korean origins. And Hapkido comes directly from Daito Ryu Aikijujitsu from Japan. Taekwondo comes from Shotokan karate also from Japan. The kung-fu influence can be seen in KSW's forms. But again, that doesn't matter if you enjoy doing it." CreationDate="2020-02-23T04:45:19.873" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19868" PostId="9711" Score="0" Text="Are you looking for a recommendation on specific Sambo classes that might be available where you are, or a martial art similar to Sambo for you to look into?" CreationDate="2020-02-24T11:35:41.640" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19869" PostId="9711" Score="0" Text="Sambo classes but in seminar form (i mean 1 week or 1 week-end for example) because I am currently in Poznań and I din't find any Sambo classes on regular basis here" CreationDate="2020-02-24T11:42:08.307" UserId="10650" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19870" PostId="9711" Score="2" Text="It is probably best to contact http://www.pzsambo.pl/ and ask - this style of question tends to be off topic here (as the answers will be very location specific)." CreationDate="2020-02-24T12:14:49.187" UserId="5926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19871" PostId="9711" Score="1" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because question is about locale specific shipping" CreationDate="2020-02-24T17:51:56.210" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19872" PostId="9708" Score="1" Text="When I looked into it, I read that in Korea in the years before Japanese occupation, martial arts were considered a thuggish, low class practice, linked to criminals; few normal/respectable people would want to [be known to] practice them. So even things like Taekkyon were very rare before the occupation; literally only one or two masters remained afterwards, who weren't consulted by the young hot-head returnees - flush with karate learnt in Japan - opening dojo/-jangs in Seoul post-war.  Later there was a feeble attempt to pretend TKD had historic links to Taekkyon &amp; (mythical) HwaRangDo." CreationDate="2020-02-25T02:22:38.423" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19873" PostId="9714" Score="0" Text="I didn't understand this sentence: &quot;With a pillow, the person's brain is already oxygen starved when they pass out&quot;. Doesn't a pillow kill, not just make someone 'pass out'?" CreationDate="2020-02-25T06:37:36.073" UserId="10664" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19874" PostId="9714" Score="2" Text="@SergeyZolotarev It makes you pass out before it kills. If you let go the moment the person falls unconscious, there will be like 99.9% of cases where they wake up later. The notable exception being a heart attack due to panic. It takes about 90-120 seconds to kill a person by oxygen deprivation, that's when brain tissue - any tissue, actually - becomes necrotic (dies). People fall unconscious much earlier since the brain is the main consumer of oxygen in our body and does not tolerate low levels of oxygen well." CreationDate="2020-02-25T10:53:16.570" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19876" PostId="9711" Score="0" Text="I am sorry I didn't know Europe was too local" CreationDate="2020-02-25T11:36:04.773" UserId="10650" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19877" PostId="9712" Score="0" Text="Side note, for people looking to more efficiently smother someone, pillows are a bad choice overall. It can take over three minutes because pillows are notably porous." CreationDate="2020-02-25T14:42:03.760" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19878" PostId="9714" Score="0" Text="Is it possible to make someone pass out in just 2 seconds?" CreationDate="2020-02-25T18:30:31.497" UserId="10664" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19879" PostId="9714" Score="0" Text="@SergeyZolotarev Yes. I have personally done it once but am not skilled enough to do it on command." CreationDate="2020-02-25T18:47:32.707" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19880" PostId="9681" Score="0" Text="http://kodokanjudoinstitute.org/en/waza/digest/15/" CreationDate="2020-02-25T21:49:21.873" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19881" PostId="9714" Score="0" Text="@SergeyZolotarev [Empirical research](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/866/6440) is giving varying numbers which suggest between 6 and 14 seconds from application  to falling unconscious. Faster effect may happen due to additional factors (heart, panic, hypoxia due to strain, ...), but is unusual and there is no reliable way to do this. Once released, people spontaneously regain consciousness after 10-20 seconds. Movies are notoriously bad at depicting how chokes take effect." CreationDate="2020-02-26T11:43:47.970" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19882" PostId="9653" Score="0" Text="The IJJKO website screams BS. 5th dan and red-white? An organisation named after some Hungarian guy? What the heck?! Also, what do you expect? There are only so many functional responses to each attack, so effective training will ultimately involve the same moves regardless of the label." CreationDate="2020-02-26T11:51:43.380" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19883" PostId="9714" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking So you can't, as in videogames, knock someone out and then carry the body around for ages, can you?" CreationDate="2020-02-26T20:13:44.853" UserId="10664" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19884" PostId="9714" Score="0" Text="@SergeyZolotarev Nope, it would be a rather comedic scene of repetetive choking out as soon as the baddie wakes up. Like in with ~20-30 second periods. But holding the choke for about two minutes so that they are dead and can safely be carried would make a rather boring game, wouldn't it? ;)" CreationDate="2020-02-26T20:51:51.937" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19885" PostId="9723" Score="0" Text="I would say that this guy is mid-forties. It's not that he's injured, but more that he wants to give me an unnecessary advantage because he thinks that he is better than me(which he probably is, although whenever I try rolling with him he doesn't provide appropriate resistance)." CreationDate="2020-02-26T21:53:30.903" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19886" PostId="9723" Score="0" Text="To add on to this, the problem isn't that he is &quot;letting me pass his guard&quot; or even anything like that, it's just that there is something about the way he walks me through techniques without my asking and the way that he doesn't try to even work anything himself. Sometimes I even let people pass my guard ect. because I know hat they are newer, but I ALWAYS provide at least a little resistance so that they don't feel like they are being put in the spotlight." CreationDate="2020-02-26T21:58:53.707" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19887" PostId="9723" Score="0" Text="It is for that reason that this will not be the accepted answer. I appreciate your effort, though!" CreationDate="2020-02-26T22:21:40.213" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19888" PostId="9723" Score="1" Text="Sounds like he's probably more interested in teaching than putting up a tough fight in his rolls. Maybe he doesn't have the energy to roll very hard for all the rounds that you guys do." CreationDate="2020-02-26T22:25:12.553" UserId="10658" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19889" PostId="9723" Score="0" Text="Whenever I watch him roll with anyone else, he usually submits them, though." CreationDate="2020-02-27T15:14:34.097" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19890" PostId="9723" Score="0" Text="Maybe he thinks that you roll too hard, and doesn't want to engage with you. I'm out of other ideas." CreationDate="2020-02-27T19:05:45.393" UserId="10658" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19891" PostId="9723" Score="0" Text="Maybe... I suppose that's an option. I'm sorry if it feels like I'm shooting down all your ideas, because that isn't my intention." CreationDate="2020-02-27T20:03:45.633" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19892" PostId="9701" Score="0" Text="@tye649 You do not turn when being thrown, obviously. But doing so when stumbling or being pushed or kicked from behind makes perfect sense in self-defense applications." CreationDate="2020-02-27T20:30:04.830" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19893" PostId="9721" Score="0" Text="This question is similar to [How to Deal with Talkative Training Partner](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/8698/5961)." CreationDate="2020-02-27T21:14:25.847" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19894" PostId="9726" Score="0" Text="Functional stretching should be done without small movements since this does actually do a warm up and prepares the muscle for stresses, but is much worse for achieving flexibility than static stretching (source: Manual for instructor licensing in the German judo federation (DJB), based on sports science. Can look up if it gives specific sources if you like)." CreationDate="2020-02-27T22:38:37.450" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19896" PostId="9726" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking Maybe you are right. What they taught me in Kook Sool Won was that stretching with small movements prepares for activities that involve movement, such as kicking, and stretching w/o movements is better for overall flexibility but isn't good for high mobility activities. That kind of stretching is better done before bed, for example." CreationDate="2020-02-28T15:08:25.287" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19898" PostId="9730" Score="1" Text="Short answer: because BJJ descends from early Kodokan judo, and judo removed strikes early on for safety reasons in practice (randori). Kano had envisaged a more comprehensive martial art reintroducing striking into randori but never lived to achieve this goal." CreationDate="2020-02-28T16:42:32.420" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19899" PostId="9730" Score="0" Text="Because then it would be MMA ;) Just kidding. But really, BJJ is solely focused on the grappling aspect of a fight. BJJ is great for self-defense, but nobody is claiming its a comprehensive combat system." CreationDate="2020-02-28T18:46:59.850" UserId="10675" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19901" PostId="7752" Score="2" Text="@HuwEvans No they don't." CreationDate="2020-02-28T18:50:31.887" UserId="10675" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19902" PostId="9701" Score="0" Text="Do you expect to execute a roll after taking a strike from behind? I don't." CreationDate="2020-02-29T22:35:11.277" UserId="10658" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19903" PostId="7916" Score="0" Text="This question is very similar to https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/5280/will-training-muay-thai-affect-my-bjj-skills/9635#9635" CreationDate="2020-03-01T00:14:43.463" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19904" PostId="72" Score="0" Text="I believe that this question is off-topic, because it only can be applied to certain areas geographically and because it focuses on legalities of martial arts, which is off topic." CreationDate="2020-03-01T00:55:16.950" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19907" PostId="72" Score="0" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because legality is off-topic." CreationDate="2020-03-01T04:22:48.957" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19911" PostId="9736" Score="0" Text="I guess there is a misunderstanding. The idea is that I already am grabbing onto their arm that I will use to throw them when I turn around to give up my back. Of course I wouldn't take the risk of just letting them put me in a choke hold. I think I see what you mean, though." CreationDate="2020-03-01T23:41:36.607" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19912" PostId="9653" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking 5th dan red and white is used for juso, so why not IJJ? I can tell you that Israeli Jiu Jitsu is real." CreationDate="2020-03-01T23:44:56.717" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19913" PostId="9735" Score="1" Text="I found this video on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey3VCTdxBYU" CreationDate="2020-03-02T03:04:19.617" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19914" PostId="9736" Score="1" Text="@LemmyX Perhaps you actually want to ask something like, &quot;Is a shoulder throw attempt worth the risk of having an opponent behind you?&quot;" CreationDate="2020-03-02T05:08:43.147" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19915" PostId="9653" Score="0" Text="Red-white is used from 6th dan to 8th dan in Judo and every sport which adapted Judo ranking I encountered so far." CreationDate="2020-03-02T07:02:42.023" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19916" PostId="9701" Score="0" Text="@tye649 When I am kicked in my back and put off-balance, I will surely take the roll over landing flat on my face or stumbling off-balance for several steps. If you think that's not realistic in the first place, you probably haven't trained it yet. There are some nice forms of training with open as well as closed eyes which allow for gradual automation of this reaction, including multi-attacker randori forms. In other words: I totally do expect to execute a roll in such a situation, yes. All it takes is but one step to stabilise and control one's own movement." CreationDate="2020-03-02T09:29:10.773" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19917" PostId="9383" Score="0" Text="Hi @Daveh0 - if you feel my answer answered your question adequately would you mind accepting it?" CreationDate="2020-03-02T11:49:22.213" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19918" PostId="9734" Score="0" Text="Why is this tagged bjj? In any case, its hard to grab the back when a very strong kick is heading your way. You move forward to take you're just going to eat the kick." CreationDate="2020-03-02T16:52:49.383" UserId="10675" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19919" PostId="918" Score="0" Text="No. Krav Maga actually works while Aikido is the ultimate form of Bullshido, and has absolutely zero techniques of value to teach anyone. Its highly unlikely if not impossible than an effective martial art would derive anything from aikido whatsoever." CreationDate="2020-03-02T17:04:13.887" UserId="10675" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19920" PostId="9696" Score="1" Text="A 9 year old brown belt... definitely a McDojo." CreationDate="2020-03-02T17:08:14.420" UserId="10675" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19921" PostId="9734" Score="0" Text="If you move forward into the kick, you'll take a much, much weaker kick than if you stand where you are and attempt to block it. The power comes in at the end of the kick. Same as a punch." CreationDate="2020-03-02T17:17:19.720" UserId="10658" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19922" PostId="9741" Score="0" Text="In Japanese martial arts, as far as I know, black belt means you are ready to teach. BJJ doesn't follow this, and they have people teaching before they are awarded black belts." CreationDate="2020-03-02T17:21:42.983" UserId="10658" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19923" PostId="9730" Score="1" Text="It's because coaches get caught up in teaching competitive BJJ. They can't train world champions by wasting time having you defend real attacks." CreationDate="2020-03-02T17:26:52.277" UserId="10658" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19924" PostId="9735" Score="0" Text="Gross. I'm sorry that your first exposure to that technique was from that entry." CreationDate="2020-03-02T17:47:28.483" UserId="10658" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19925" PostId="9741" Score="1" Text="@tye649 Traditionally, you were considered ready to teach when being awarded *menkyo kaiden* in Japan. As of dan gradings, shodan basically means you know the basics and instructing traditionally is more likely to happen at 4th dan upwards. In western countries, black belt tends to be understood as meaning &quot;master&quot;, which really corresponds to 5th/6th dan in dan gradings. That being said, you can make your instructor license for Judo at 1st kyu or 1st dan in most countries I know of. For BJJ, it is blue belt." CreationDate="2020-03-02T20:41:13.460" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19926" PostId="9735" Score="0" Text="No, actually I looked into it after I already learned it. But yes, it is gross." CreationDate="2020-03-02T21:49:21.540" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19927" PostId="9744" Score="0" Text="I believe that a blue belt only takes 1-2 years if you go regularly. I would say that the equivalent is probably purple." CreationDate="2020-03-02T21:59:21.390" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19928" PostId="9730" Score="0" Text="I wouldn't call it &quot;wasting time&quot;. As a life skill, it is more important to be able to defend yourself than to be able to win gold medals." CreationDate="2020-03-02T22:07:55.233" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19929" PostId="9653" Score="0" Text="But 6 is only one more than 5, isn't it?" CreationDate="2020-03-02T22:08:35.890" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19930" PostId="9744" Score="1" Text="@LemmyX Yes, averages are 2 years to blue belt. It used to be 4 years to get to blue belt, at least in the U.S. when we didn't have a lot of black belts teaching. Now it's 2 years. Purple is around 5 years total time. So I'd look at blue belts with a few stripes as the real equivalent to black belts in other styles." CreationDate="2020-03-02T22:09:22.850" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19931" PostId="9744" Score="1" Text="Yes, that makes sense in most cases. It's funny though because a black belt is supposed to have &quot;mastered&quot; the art, whereas blue belts often make many mistakes. I guess this is because BJJ is less comprehensive and never really has an end to technique possibilities." CreationDate="2020-03-02T22:14:33.157" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19932" PostId="9744" Score="4" Text="Oh, black belts in all styles really just represent that they know the basics. Mastery takes a lifetime." CreationDate="2020-03-02T22:16:34.763" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19933" PostId="9744" Score="0" Text="Yes, but they should be able to execute advanced techniques." CreationDate="2020-03-02T22:18:04.670" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19934" PostId="9734" Score="0" Text="@TheBatman Its' tagged BJJ because I'm talking about a BJJ mindset of taking the back. I wouldn't tag it like this if it wasn't at least partially related." CreationDate="2020-03-02T22:59:20.067" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19935" PostId="9743" Score="1" Text="Your description does not do this entry justice. The entry uses uke's movement to allow tori to enter fully (tori's back to uke's front) while tori turns only 90 degrees. This is very efficient from a movement standpoint, but the answer does not address the question's concern with turning the back to uke." CreationDate="2020-03-03T03:26:39.447" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19936" PostId="9746" Score="1" Text="I'd argue that using them in a real situation is okay if you're practiced - an opening is an opening, even if it needs a jodan mawashi geri. However the rest of your advice is quite sound." CreationDate="2020-03-03T13:01:53.160" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19937" PostId="9735" Score="2" Text="&quot;it is very simple&quot; . No, it is not. It takes years to master it before you have any chance to do it on a non-cooperating opponent." CreationDate="2020-03-03T13:15:00.217" UserId="9778" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19938" PostId="9735" Score="1" Text="Yes, but the movements are simple, and it is one of the more basic throws." CreationDate="2020-03-03T14:37:00.680" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19939" PostId="9748" Score="0" Text="Blatantly false." CreationDate="2020-03-03T16:27:28.830" UserId="10675" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19940" PostId="9110" Score="0" Text="I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it does not relate to martial arts and cannot be modified to be on topic." CreationDate="2020-03-03T17:10:31.480" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19941" PostId="9746" Score="4" Text="Considering that Gichin Funakoshi (1868 - 1957) wrote in his autobiography (Translated into English as &quot;Karate-Do: My way of Life&quot; in 1975) about Jodan Kicks being used by *his* sensei, Matsumura Sōkon (1809 - 1899), we  **know** that they existed pre 19**00**, even if they were less commonly used.  So, *&quot;Pre ~1950s all kicks were low&quot;* is clearly false." CreationDate="2020-03-03T17:17:40.093" UserId="9212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19942" PostId="9750" Score="0" Text="https://youtu.be/6HhCajvimEw for reference" CreationDate="2020-03-03T17:44:20.137" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19943" PostId="9750" Score="3" Text="For fast progression, someone invented stripes." CreationDate="2020-03-03T21:22:52.580" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19946" PostId="9743" Score="0" Text="@mattm His description of going for this throw after someone gets behind you is not something that I would teach. Especially not as your first exposure to it. But I'm not surprised that he would see this is a BJJ class." CreationDate="2020-03-03T23:08:12.690" UserId="10658" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19947" PostId="9749" Score="0" Text="Firas Zahabi of Tristar gym says that it's happening. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHvp_hFFY-U" CreationDate="2020-03-03T23:14:47.910" UserId="10658" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19948" PostId="9730" Score="0" Text="@LemmyX I agree. I've had coaches who refuse to teach practical application, and it's really bad. They consider it a waste of time." CreationDate="2020-03-03T23:24:50.793" UserId="10658" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19949" PostId="6741" Score="0" Text="I can't think of any legitimate reason for #4 - guaranteeing a black belt in a specific time frame at all (far less in such a short amount of time) is a dead giveaway in my mind. #11 effectively reduces belts to a participation trophy." CreationDate="2020-03-04T01:55:27.793" UserId="8276" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19954" PostId="6878" Score="1" Text="-1 &quot;If you walk into a school and there are kids belts&quot;...&quot;This usually means your school has no understanding of ANY martial art and it's students are going to fail at life.&quot; First of all, the official BJJ rules set by IBJJF state that all students under the age of 16 will receive kids belts. I wouldn't say that these belts go quickly, like you said. Each one takes up to 14 months (accept white and grey-white). You need to do more research before you say things like that." CreationDate="2020-03-04T15:26:03.603" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19955" PostId="6878" Score="0" Text="Also, many martial arts take &lt;= 5 years for black belt. For instance, Kuk Sool Won takes 4-5, Hapkido takes 3, and so does Aikido. This of course depends on frequency of training, but saying that 5 years is an extremely short, maybe not possible length of time to earn a black belt is plain wrong and misleading. It just depends on the martial art." CreationDate="2020-03-04T15:31:55.070" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19956" PostId="7915" Score="0" Text="No fees? I don't think that having fees makes something a mcdojo, only really high ones, for stupid reasons. Following these guidelines narrows it down so much that there is probably only one school like this in all of the Americas. I don't think that any school that doesn't follow this should be considered a mcdojo." CreationDate="2020-03-04T15:59:54.390" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19957" PostId="9110" Score="0" Text="@LemmyX I had forgotten to mark this question as answered a week after I had posted it. Thanks for the reminder." CreationDate="2020-03-04T21:16:40.190" UserId="10048" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19958" PostId="9746" Score="0" Text="From a BJJ standpoint, I would take the risk of ending up on the ground because that's where I'm most comfortable. For me, it's like a 2-in-1 deal!" CreationDate="2020-03-04T21:43:44.540" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19959" PostId="1521" Score="0" Text="Dangerous? Haven't you seen *Rocky I* through *IV*?" CreationDate="2020-03-04T22:07:53.483" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19960" PostId="9735" Score="0" Text="&quot;What if it fails?&quot; Use combination attacks. Have your 2nd attack when the 1st fails, 3rd when the 2nd fails..." CreationDate="2020-03-04T22:09:50.280" UserId="10658" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19961" PostId="9613" Score="0" Text="Is the guillotine de facto hansoku-make? Isn't it considered [a variant of hadaka-jime](https://youtu.be/yvOMQl1Qmow?t=357), as long as the referee doesn't feel you are also applying a neck crank?" CreationDate="2020-03-04T22:26:29.733" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19962" PostId="9112" Score="5" Text="One comment on the last sentence: Most swords have been used as blunt weapons (ie. have never really been that sharp) with the advantage compared to a club being that the area of impact is much smaller (and therefore the pressure exerted on it being proportionally bigger). That is why you would want a thick and sturdy kind of armour against swords (or a combination in layers), since it cushions *and distributes* the pressure. While cushion is nice, it does not help much if the pressure is still concentrated on a very small surface. Against knives, even a simple shirt provides some protection." CreationDate="2020-03-05T07:32:51.827" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19963" PostId="9748" Score="0" Text="@TheBatman Without constructive feedback, comments are useless. Yours is bordering on being offensive. While some points of the post may be debatable (hook punches help against all kinds of guard, big gloves, small gloves, or no gloves at all), they have at least some merit, eg. bunkai not being about punches, but joint manipulation in most cases that &quot;look like&quot; hook punches. Therefore, I suggest either telling us what exactly is false and why, or not commenting at all." CreationDate="2020-03-05T12:27:49.777" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19964" PostId="9746" Score="0" Text="I take the point &amp; have limited the generalisation." CreationDate="2020-03-05T13:02:52.393" UserId="10587" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19965" PostId="9748" Score="0" Text="@TheBatman - There's a progression in techniques used in Boxing which follows rule changes, from early Pugilism through London Prize Ring and Marquess of Queensberry Rules. The guards used changed following the introduction of gloves, and prevalence of techniques used changed to follow the guards being used." CreationDate="2020-03-05T13:23:34.073" UserId="10587" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19967" PostId="9748" Score="0" Text="The idea that gloves are the reason that hooks are used in boxing is blatantly false. They are used in bare knuckle boxing and street fighting with great effect. A hook to the chin is even just as useful without gloves. This whole answer is nothing but nonsense. Nobody who knows how to throw a proper punch hits with their 4th and 5th metacarpals, even more nonsense there. Its not offensive to call bs for what it is, you should be offended that his guy is trying to pass off stuff he pulled out of his own imagination as facts." CreationDate="2020-03-05T20:10:14.420" UserId="10675" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19968" PostId="6741" Score="0" Text="@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica #4: There are courses in Japan that take people to shodan in a year: 3 to 4 classes per day, 6 days a week for a year. The [Senshusei course](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senshusei_course) for example." CreationDate="2020-03-06T10:10:34.577" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19969" PostId="6741" Score="0" Text="@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica #11 could be that after X amount of regular training, the student should be that rank. I, for one, think no one should ever fail a grading. If one does not have the skill, they should not grade. But if they do have it, they should get the grade. I guess you could call that grading on schedule." CreationDate="2020-03-06T10:13:43.073" UserId="82" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19970" PostId="9753" Score="0" Text="I do not have experience with this art, so I'm not going to write this as an answer. I do believe that It could still be pretty effective because of the falling techniques. Since Ninjas had to fight samurai, then it could be helpful if being attacked with a knife, dagger etc. Remember, Ninjutsu was made to actually fight in real life, so it would probably be effective nowadays." CreationDate="2020-03-06T14:35:15.497" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19971" PostId="9110" Score="1" Text="@LemmyX Knife fighting is a branch of Martial Arts (Escrima/Kali/Arnis) — this questions is about whether the &quot;glove&quot; is valid equipment for that context, or just a fashion statement (much like a question about a picture of a gi saying &quot;what are these weird clothes, and why are martial artists often depicted wearing them&quot;).  It could *certainly* be phrased differently to make that more obvious though." CreationDate="2020-03-06T16:32:56.830" UserId="9212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19972" PostId="9755" Score="1" Text="Wow...the annalysis is Brilliant. Thx for that!" CreationDate="2020-03-07T14:43:34.987" UserId="10669" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19973" PostId="9755" Score="0" Text="I always wanted to try Bujinkan ninjutsu for a while now, and especially their weapon system, how they incorporate different unconventional warfare and martial techniques into one full system and how all of them synchronize into one proper art. I was truly impressed. But now that, with the controversy and stuff I am in a serious dilemma and how people bash on ninjutsu being this &quot;fake&quot; martial art just because it aint 100% practical. Now u said, Bujinkan community doesn't allow sparing, are u sure if it's exclusive to particular schools or is it universal." CreationDate="2020-03-07T16:13:43.067" UserId="10669" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19974" PostId="9755" Score="0" Text="Cuz the counterclaims u have provided, for not having the spar is very good and it's srsly quite stupid of the Bujinkan community not being able to spar properly without &quot;risking&quot; their art. I mean how does one know if their techniques are really that deadly if they've never been tested out. TBH, I have seen some YT videos on some ninjutsu sparing and they did show how the techniques bloomed when trying 'em on resisting opponents. So I think the issue of sparing, is quite exclusive to school and is not universal." CreationDate="2020-03-07T16:17:08.423" UserId="10669" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19975" PostId="9755" Score="1" Text="@FANerY You should stop by a Bujinkan school to see what happens in a typical class. You won't find sparring. If there is any &quot;sparring&quot; in Bujinkan, it's very controlled and limited in many ways. The &quot;play acting&quot; that I mentioned will still be a part of it. Only rarely have I ever seen Bujinkan do any kind of real, live sparring at medium to full contact. When it happens, people get injured, so it's like once a year and only for people who don't care about getting hurt. It's not very smart. They simply don't train to spar, so they don't know what to do when they spar for real." CreationDate="2020-03-07T16:28:28.350" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19976" PostId="9755" Score="2" Text="@FANerY You should also be aware that many of the Bujinkan videos you see on Youtube showing what looks to be sparring are demonstrations, not real sparring. It looks like people are resisting, but they're not. Not like MMA does it. They won't show themselves sparring against boxers and MMA fighters. If they did, it would be obvious they're way outclassed. Yes, different instructors of Bujinkan may do things differently and may incorporate some real sparring, but that is going to be the exception. Very rare to find." CreationDate="2020-03-07T16:34:29.590" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19977" PostId="9755" Score="1" Text="@FANerY One other thing. Yes, Bujinkan is very well integrated. It combines 9 ryu (schools) in one, and it has a unifying way of moving. Its weapons training is extensive, and once again it's integrated into their taijutsu (empty hand movement), making a single, cohesive system. Great stuff! But, that doesn't mean it's particularly effective at actually fighting. For that, you need a way of training that involves the liveness, resistance, pressure, and safety that I mentioned. It's how you train that matters, not the techniques." CreationDate="2020-03-07T16:42:47.503" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19978" PostId="9110" Score="1" Text="@Chronocidal It is definitely pushing it, though." CreationDate="2020-03-09T02:16:57.900" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19979" PostId="9755" Score="0" Text="Again a wonderful response to my comments. As I show a keen interest in Bujinkan and martial arts in general and as u mentioned in your answer above, I'm considering either MMA or Karate alongside Bujinkan to satisfy its missing elements of sparing that would prevent me from becoming a better fighter. Given, MMA can sometimes be a bit dangerous and overwhelming, from just your opinion, do u think Karate particularly Kyokushin can be something I can do along with Bujinkan. Given Kyokushin's hist&#xA;ory and reputation of being full-contact karate, it may be a good choice?" CreationDate="2020-03-09T14:49:25.867" UserId="10669" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19980" PostId="9755" Score="2" Text="@FANerY Karate does &quot;free&quot; sparring and kata bunkai. The problem is that they don't combine the two like MMA does. And so in karate, once again you will not be training to fight. You'll be training to spar and to do kata / kata bunkai. In general. It goes to the rule set. If you add rules like no punches to the face, no grabbing, no throws, no take-downs, no wrestling, etc., then that's pretty far removed from anything you'd encounter in a real fight. You won't be prepared for it. Kyokushin is better than most, but no punches to the face means you won't learn to defend against them..." CreationDate="2020-03-09T15:21:33.010" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19981" PostId="9755" Score="1" Text="... Kyokushin karate people are tough! But they have these weaknesses, holes in their defense due to the rules they have. It's far better to go with boxing or muay thai instead. But then, if you want a complete picture, you'll need to go with MMA. I also highly recommend Gracie Jiujitsu. But if you're just wanting to get going and start learning to fight for real, go with MMA. Don't look back. On the side, you can look at other stuff. One year of MMA will give you a proper framework to put everything else into proper context." CreationDate="2020-03-09T15:23:57.043" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19982" PostId="9755" Score="0" Text="Cool. Thx for the awesome response. Highly appreciate the perspective u've shed." CreationDate="2020-03-10T03:44:44.237" UserId="10669" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19983" PostId="9755" Score="0" Text="@Steven Weigand Also I see you recommend BJJ, but I have been wondering. BJJ has a lot of ground work and not enough strikes kicks and etc etc. Don't u think it's a little impractical on the streets or just for self defense in general. I know ground work is important but don't u think its a bit impractical in some instances." CreationDate="2020-03-10T03:50:34.817" UserId="10669" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19984" PostId="9755" Score="1" Text="@FANerY Not all BJJ is the same. I recommend Gracie JJ. Your first year or two is completely devoted to self-defense, not sport. They practice defense against strikes a lot, and they have a minor amount of striking they teach. The striking they teach is enough to survive, good stuff. Mostly their strategy is to close the gap, clinch, take-down, and then submit on the ground. Because it's so technical, and because it's used directly in MMA, most recommend training in BJJ separately to focus on it and get good at it. Unlike kung-fu or TKD or Bujinkan, you won't have to change much of it..." CreationDate="2020-03-10T15:28:39.577" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19985" PostId="9755" Score="1" Text="@FANerY ... when you take it into MMA. You can basically use it as-is. So it's very compatible. Gracie JJ does go into striking, small circle jujitsu (classical jujitsu), and self-defense a lot more than most other BJJ. In fact, it's considered a type of mixed martial art, incorporating boxing and kick-boxing into its curriculum. Most BJJ schools are sports-based. But even with a sports-based BJJ, you're fine to train it. Just take MMA along side of it, so that you can put it into context (you're not just optimising BJJ for sport BJJ rules)." CreationDate="2020-03-10T15:30:50.033" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19988" PostId="9755" Score="1" Text="Thanks a ton for your responses." CreationDate="2020-03-11T02:53:36.380" UserId="10669" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19989" PostId="9755" Score="1" Text="@FANerY Oh, you asked about the practicality of BJJ for real fights. The answer is they have proven track record for real fights. It works more effectively than anything else I've seen (aside from MMA, but MMA uses BJJ). Some argue against it because you want to be mobile in a real fight, not stuck on the ground. Knowing BJJ means you're really good at getting up from the ground whenever you want and not being taken to the ground. The difference is: In BJJ, you get to choose. In other martial arts, you don't. At least not reliably. Hope that helps." CreationDate="2020-03-11T03:01:19.110" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19991" PostId="9759" Score="3" Text="I think the Gerbi choke was illegal at the time it was used, but the referee did not call a penalty. Rules were reclarified, but if you check the old version, the Gerbi choke should still be illegal. Just because a referee does not penalize something does not mean it should be legal; referees make mistakes too." CreationDate="2020-03-11T13:01:34.587" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19992" PostId="9759" Score="0" Text="@mattm true, I have reworded the first paragraph to make this clearer." CreationDate="2020-03-11T13:30:42.660" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19994" PostId="9739" Score="0" Text="Judo and BJJ practitioners who have strong rear naked choke defense in high level MMA settings often do give up their back intentionally" CreationDate="2020-03-11T15:48:07.900" UserId="10675" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19995" PostId="9763" Score="0" Text="Yes when demonstrating it did indeed appear to use the wrist itself to apply the choke (I tried to find a video demonstrating this version to no avail, the skirt is brought up round the back, over the shoulder, and under the neck), but I agree it seems it would be very difficult to distinguish between a legal/illegal version in a live environment." CreationDate="2020-03-11T21:01:37.093" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19996" PostId="9763" Score="0" Text="@ukemi I know this one, wait a sec for edits..." CreationDate="2020-03-11T21:10:27.027" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19997" PostId="9763" Score="0" Text="Thanks - yeah it makes sense that using it as purchase for the wrist / using it itself as a garrote is the key distinction." CreationDate="2020-03-11T21:26:05.430" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19998" PostId="9757" Score="0" Text="Just for clarification: are we speaking about a quality, brand-new belt?" CreationDate="2020-03-12T10:33:57.083" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="19999" PostId="9757" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking No, I'm talking about maybe a one-year old belt." CreationDate="2020-03-12T14:12:21.260" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20000" PostId="9757" Score="0" Text="Ok, so are you telling us all versions loosened up, or just that you cannot make out a 'best' suggestion since they all worked for you?" CreationDate="2020-03-12T18:50:32.297" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20001" PostId="9757" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking They all worked pretty well, although most still fell off after about 10 minutes of rolling." CreationDate="2020-03-12T20:38:08.527" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20002" PostId="9757" Score="0" Text="I've rolled extensively with my belt never falling off. Like in never, even after hours of rolling. This leaves me with two options: Either you do not pull it enough to fasten the knot or your belt is extraordinarily stiff (hence my first question). If it is quite stiff, kneading and twisting the belt for some time, like 1-2 hours - which is a good grip strength training as well - usually helps softening it so that the knot holds better.." CreationDate="2020-03-12T20:44:44.337" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20003" PostId="9758" Score="0" Text="After trying both of the ways (yours and @PhillipKlöcking 's), I decided that this one works best!" CreationDate="2020-03-13T01:27:28.993" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20004" PostId="9259" Score="0" Text="All 3 demonstrated here by Koji Komuro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJN7Wm4JMeI" CreationDate="2020-03-14T12:36:23.167" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20005" PostId="9753" Score="0" Text="A good measure to assess martial arts effectiveness is to see if it appeared in MMA, most notably UFC. Ninjutsu, AFAIK was only represented by Steve Jennum who fought 2 fights, using techniques that weren't that different from what BJJ or MMA have to offer." CreationDate="2020-03-14T21:58:58.720" UserId="10701" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20006" PostId="1087" Score="0" Text="Maybe take advantage of the curvature and turn it into a bokken?" CreationDate="2020-03-14T22:41:30.133" UserId="10701" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20011" PostId="9775" Score="2" Text="The problem with your answer is that 90% of BJJ that is taught everywhere is sport BJJ. Unless you can find a school that offers self-defense specific classes, you're going to learn non-practical technique. If I walk into the school nearest me during a class, what are the odds of them working punch defense at that moment? I suspect low." CreationDate="2020-03-15T19:24:15.413" UserId="10658" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20012" PostId="9775" Score="1" Text="@tye649 actually, in my experience, most schools teach both, but one is usually prioritized over the other. You also don't need any self defense-specific to turn a normal throw or take down into a slam. Just add more power! Read paragraph 4 of my answer." CreationDate="2020-03-15T19:28:35.177" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20013" PostId="9775" Score="0" Text="If you advertise self defense, but only teach it 10% of the time, then you are lying to people. And of course you should train your throws without putting in power because you want to protect your partner. In reality, I'm looking for you to land on your head." CreationDate="2020-03-15T19:37:39.527" UserId="10658" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20014" PostId="9775" Score="0" Text="@tye649 you train throws without power, which is helpful for both competition and practicing throws without injuring you training partner. All I am saying is that as long as you know HOW to do a throw or take down, then you can turn it into a slam by just applying more force and power." CreationDate="2020-03-15T19:42:19.957" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20015" PostId="9543" Score="1" Text="This is interesting because it is usually the attacker that has the gun, not the defender. When I first saw this question, I was thinking &quot;why are you trying to attack someone?&quot;. Of course, I since actually read the question and see what you mean." CreationDate="2020-03-15T20:19:25.990" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20020" PostId="9777" Score="1" Text="Sounds like some variant of Yoko-guruma - a standard technique against headlock - but it is impossible to tell without further details." CreationDate="2020-03-16T10:37:05.610" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20021" PostId="9778" Score="0" Text="Just to be sure we're answering the right question, this is for a Judo *gi*, based on the tags? Also, we generally ask for one question in each question. You may want to post your two questions seperately." CreationDate="2020-03-16T17:09:34.030" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20022" PostId="9778" Score="0" Text="https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/26/whats-the-best-way-to-sew-badges-onto-a-uniform-so-they-dont-come-off?rq=1 might be a useful reference for the second question." CreationDate="2020-03-16T17:11:34.700" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20023" PostId="9778" Score="1" Text="Do your pants also have the drawstrings? Those don't work well enough to leave the pants as is?" CreationDate="2020-03-16T17:55:19.927" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20024" PostId="9779" Score="0" Text="Why did they ever ban slams if BJJ folk know how to prevent them? Other legal things can hurt people (like stacking), so why ban this specifically?" CreationDate="2020-03-16T20:40:29.280" UserId="10658" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20026" PostId="9779" Score="1" Text="@tye649 If stacking were the flu then slamming would be coronavirus, that's why." CreationDate="2020-03-17T10:29:10.130" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20027" PostId="9780" Score="1" Text="There are a lot of very different wrist lock variations. Could you be more specific about the positions you're getting caught in?" CreationDate="2020-03-17T10:41:21.703" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20028" PostId="9779" Score="0" Text="@mattm I ask because I recall seeing that someone got paralyzed in a tournament by being stacked." CreationDate="2020-03-17T13:00:51.013" UserId="10658" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20029" PostId="9774" Score="6" Text="May I ask how long you have been training in BJJ?" CreationDate="2020-03-17T14:21:47.843" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20030" PostId="9780" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I added a little more detail. Since I've never been taught wrist locks, I don't know the names for each one, so I hope my description will do." CreationDate="2020-03-17T15:07:51.987" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20031" PostId="9786" Score="5" Text="This post crosses the line of the [code of conduct](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/conduct). Find an objective way to ask your question that does not involve name calling." CreationDate="2020-03-17T15:30:15.860" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20032" PostId="9786" Score="0" Text="Please modify this so that it is asking an answerable question and not just sparking debate." CreationDate="2020-03-17T15:40:55.807" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20034" PostId="9786" Score="6" Text="This is wrong on so many levels...if one follows this logic, vale tudo (anything goes) would be the only legitimate &quot;martial art&quot;. But this is no art, it's simply brawling. Arts have their deficiencies due to the respective philosophy and rule set, but have their strength because they train and develop a particular aspect of fighting. And no, martial arts are not primarily for self-defense. Even Sambo and catch-wrestling suck as self-defense when compared to systems that legitimately focus on that." CreationDate="2020-03-17T17:29:18.253" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20035" PostId="9788" Score="0" Text="There are examples of Jiu Jitsu champions failing with their transition to MMA. Kron Gracie, Mackenzie Dern, Roger Gracie, etc. And some don't train with the GI, because they don't find it helpful." CreationDate="2020-03-17T19:19:17.267" UserId="10658" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20036" PostId="9788" Score="3" Text="Actually Roger Gracie has (or have) an amazing career on MMA,  on Strikeforce and One FC." CreationDate="2020-03-17T19:29:07.133" UserId="10708" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20037" PostId="9788" Score="0" Text="@tye649 &quot;And some don't train with the GI, because they don't find it helpful...&quot; What I'm saying is not my opinion, but public information, available on several specialized sites,  that  great MMA fighters, who use Jiu Jitsu very successfully in their fights, like the above mentioned, consider  consider essential to their octagon performance to train GI jiu jitsu...  See for instance this video about BJ Penn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFdFpp1tIAM" CreationDate="2020-03-17T19:33:52.197" UserId="10708" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20038" PostId="9786" Score="1" Text="BJJ is a concise system, there's nothing in it that doesn't work. The same cannot be said for Sambo. Quality over quantity, OP." CreationDate="2020-03-17T20:20:08.950" UserId="10675" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20039" PostId="9788" Score="0" Text="Roger washed out of the UFC. Eddie Bravo has several schools and none of them teach the gi." CreationDate="2020-03-17T20:40:01.930" UserId="10658" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20040" PostId="9779" Score="1" Text="@tye649 Think more rigorously about the risk-per-occurrence: a dozen people get stacked hard in every BJJ tournament (let alone in practice) but most of the result is just a few sore necks. A freak accident will happen but the severe-injury incidence is low. In contrast, slams are very rare (because illegal) but despite few examples to pick from, most BJJ/MMA/street-fight-video fans can rattle off several bad knockouts/injuries from slams just off the top of their heads. A slam is basically an explosive high-speed chaotic cousin of getting stacked, so of course it's way more injury-causing." CreationDate="2020-03-17T20:48:25.957" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20041" PostId="9788" Score="2" Text="@tye649 Actually Roger Gracie has only one fight in UFC, so &quot;washed out&quot; sounds to me as an overstatement  (by the way I'm not even a fan of RG). About Eddie Bravo, I don't know what to say, since as far as I know (which is not much)  he is not a successful MMA fighter or even a successful MMA coach..." CreationDate="2020-03-17T21:43:59.407" UserId="10708" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20042" PostId="9785" Score="0" Text="I don't know about you, but punching me in my face while being in my guard is not nearly as easy as you make it sound. Well, except maybe one is really bad at guard game and keeps laying flat on one's back...which would be like not having the guard at all. I have an extreme control over my opponent's balance and distances with my guard which is like the whole point of the position in the first place." CreationDate="2020-03-17T22:13:52.533" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20043" PostId="9785" Score="1" Text="About Eddie Bravo, I don't know what to say, since as far as I know (which is not much) he is not a successful MMA fighter or even a successful MMA coach..." CreationDate="2020-03-17T23:29:32.850" UserId="10708" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20044" PostId="9789" Score="0" Text="I do agree, you must avoid these positions. However, if you are rolling with someone who has more experience than you, this can be hard. The answer that I am looking for is &quot;if I can't avoid these positions, who do you escape from there?&quot;." CreationDate="2020-03-18T00:07:18.923" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20045" PostId="9789" Score="0" Text="@LmmyX There a lot of situations in jiu-jitsu where if the timing is good you can escape or counter-attack, however when you talking about wristlock, I think reflexes are the most important thing.  However, I'm just a beginner. Maybe someone could help you more." CreationDate="2020-03-18T00:15:09.770" UserId="10708" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20046" PostId="9783" Score="1" Text="This seems wrong. You are pretending as if the only alternative to classical BJJ is to just sit there forever and fend off the attacks. Uhm, no. That's literally the opposite of what I'm saying. What I am saying is that BJJ needs to adapt itself so that the particular technique we apply to get out of the bad position is OPTIMAL taking into account the ground and pount. Current BJJ techniques are NOT optimal. I just watched a video with Eddie Bravo where he explains some basic ideas that are meant to protect your face while you do BJJ. These are the things I'm not seeing in my class." CreationDate="2020-03-18T01:29:23.690" UserId="10703" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20047" PostId="9783" Score="1" Text="Further, according to you, the &quot;premise&quot; of BJJ is to get yourself into bad positions and then having to escape them? Because you do realize ground and pound can be executed even when trapped in somebody's guard? These are positions that a BJJ class teaches you to *actually put yourself in*. Now I am saying that's not a good idea, and here you are defending it by saying no, no, no, BJJ will get you out of that position. But you watch any BJJ tournament and everybody is putting themselves in those inferior positions all the time. So is 100 % of the ground-game off BJJ null and void in MMA?" CreationDate="2020-03-18T01:32:13.983" UserId="10703" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20048" PostId="9781" Score="2" Text="i wouldn't worry about it, sword-fighting doesn't take into account that guns exist. When we play to a higher standard that still gives us an edge in a groin-punching knife-fight. I had a guy punch me in the face when in guard, &amp; i get that it could happen, but if he was going to be in a position to punch me in the face from guard, I could have broken his knees while entering guard... it's all context and respect and what you learn, not the direct combat-application of any technique" CreationDate="2020-03-18T02:54:39.247" UserId="9638" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20050" PostId="8709" Score="0" Text="I think that is a good advice" CreationDate="2020-03-18T03:09:07.423" UserId="10708" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20051" PostId="9777" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking It seems similar to Yoko-guruma, but rather than rolling to the side, the tori was definitely pushing the uke backwards onto their backs, and rolling over the top of them. Does variation allow for that much difference, or would they just give it a new name?" CreationDate="2020-03-18T03:44:33.933" UserId="10157" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20052" PostId="9794" Score="0" Text="Thank you. This does indeed look like it. I'm 80% certain this is it (though the teacher was of the opinion that it wasn't a Kodokan throw). I won't get a chance to discuss it with him in the foreseeable future (spring break meant no class next weekend, and coronavirus probably means none before summer break, ugh). Thank you once again." CreationDate="2020-03-18T05:20:09.913" UserId="10157" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20053" PostId="9783" Score="1" Text="@anum Ground and pound against a good guard is nigh impossible. That's the point of the position. If someone does ground and pound against a guard, the person having that guard is either out of gas or really bad on the ground. Don't try to sell your prejudices (or lack of ability) as gospel." CreationDate="2020-03-18T06:39:43.293" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20054" PostId="9794" Score="0" Text="@JohnO Putting all naming aspects aside, the technique sounds like being a really bad idea against this kind of headlock, speaking from a self-defense perspective. The risk for the neck seems extraordinarily high to me." CreationDate="2020-03-18T09:39:37.970" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20055" PostId="9781" Score="3" Text="@admcfajn That looks like an answer." CreationDate="2020-03-18T13:01:10.407" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20056" PostId="9748" Score="0" Text="@TheBatman Boxers regularly fracture their metacarpals when they punch without gloves. Hence... Boxer&quot;s fracture. Even world champions. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-08-24-sp-897-story.html" CreationDate="2020-03-18T14:15:48.983" UserId="10587" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20057" PostId="9794" Score="3" Text="@JohnO It is a mystery to me how the Kodokan decides upon which throws are on their list and which are not. It was also very surprising that they changed their minds at all and decided to recognize kouchi makikomi; it is not at all surprising to me that an instructor would not keep up to date on something they never expect to happen. Kouchi makikomi was always distinctive enough to warrant its own name when trying to talk about it." CreationDate="2020-03-18T19:32:46.440" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20058" PostId="9785" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking I've seen many fighters with good Jiu Jitsu creds get punched while they have someone in their guard. For unskilled opponents, it's easy enough to sweep/submit, but guys who train know how to posture up and land shots. Unless you train a lot with fighters, I don't believe that you can protect yourself that well (no gi specifically)." CreationDate="2020-03-18T21:24:11.217" UserId="10658" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20059" PostId="9785" Score="0" Text="@Eduardo Eddie trains Tony Ferguson and some other fighters." CreationDate="2020-03-18T21:25:14.560" UserId="10658" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20060" PostId="9783" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking &quot;Ground and pound against a good guard is nigh impossible&quot; Anderson Silva vs Chael Sonnen: 320 strikes landed from the top position. And Anderson is a BJJ black belt." CreationDate="2020-03-18T21:38:48.330" UserId="10658" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20062" PostId="9783" Score="1" Text="@tye649 Yes, when people got a knock and go to the ground *because they received a heavy hit* they have a hard time defending, guard or no guard, BJJ black belt or mediocre street brawler. Oh, what a surprise. That's what is usually called confirmation bias/selective sampling. One should not pretend that in these situations, there is any training preventing you from being pounded." CreationDate="2020-03-19T11:43:25.263" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20063" PostId="9774" Score="0" Text="Yes, I agree with @JohnP, this does depend on how long you have been training. Since slams are dangerous, they sometimes don't teach tem until higher levels, similar to why they don't usually teach submissions to kids under the age of 7." CreationDate="2020-03-19T17:14:41.967" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20064" PostId="9774" Score="1" Text="@LemmyX - That's part of it, but also many of the BJJ questions are ones that I would expect from someone that has not been training in BJJ/MMA styles for very long (i.e. they are questions I would expect people with less than a year of training to be asking). Answers that reflect that knowledge would help with understanding where it fits in the scheme of things." CreationDate="2020-03-19T18:24:16.707" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20065" PostId="9777" Score="1" Text="Ahh, a guillotine (front headlock)." CreationDate="2020-03-19T18:54:44.103" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20066" PostId="8195" Score="0" Text="Just casually in a street fight?" CreationDate="2020-03-19T21:48:41.177" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20067" PostId="8224" Score="0" Text="&quot;being on the ground is a terrible idea&quot;. No it's not. it's only a terrible idea if you have training exclusively in standing arts or no training at all, but as someone that practices BJJ, I would rather be on the ground than standing up. My coaches always even said, &quot;if there's a fight, take it to the ground.&quot;" CreationDate="2020-03-19T21:57:17.847" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20068" PostId="9797" Score="0" Text="[Marcelo Garcia on judo vs wrestling for BJJ](https://youtu.be/2tjRZwdGm-M)" CreationDate="2020-03-20T12:41:57.763" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20069" PostId="9797" Score="0" Text="What was the throw?" CreationDate="2020-03-20T12:43:21.940" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20070" PostId="9748" Score="0" Text="@Colin Yet hooks are still thrown in MMA with only 4 oz gloves" CreationDate="2020-03-20T15:21:29.603" UserId="10675" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20072" PostId="9800" Score="0" Text="I guess I shouldn't say that it isn't effective, because now that I think about it, it works fine. What I meant to say, is that it is impractical for use in BJJ because of the position that you have to establish in order to do it." CreationDate="2020-03-20T18:03:56.450" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20073" PostId="9797" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I am not aware of the name of the throw, but it was just a pretty basic hip throw where the opponent throws a punch and you block it, reaching around their torso and tripping them over your leg." CreationDate="2020-03-20T18:11:55.687" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20074" PostId="9797" Score="0" Text="@mattm the ippon seoi nage was a different issue altogether. I never learned that one in BJJ class, I had to look it up." CreationDate="2020-03-20T18:12:42.800" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20075" PostId="9800" Score="0" Text="I bet you're talking about a seoinage or ogoshi, where you turn your back? I find that hip throws work fine if you use an underhook grip so you land in a BJJ-appropriate modified scarf hold. Shoulder throws require a bit more skill to make sure they can't take your back, but it can be done." CreationDate="2020-03-20T18:34:51.283" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20076" PostId="9797" Score="0" Text="Hip throws don't involve &quot;trips&quot;...maybe this was haraigoshi? Either way a hip throw should work fine for BJJ, since you land in kesa-gatame. What's the problem when you/they land?" CreationDate="2020-03-20T18:36:33.067" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20077" PostId="9793" Score="1" Text="I disagree that no one ever sets out to create an &quot;art&quot;, but they do generally study something else, or just learn by experience, before one day saying, &quot;You know what, other people should learn this way&quot;. We had one started here in Pittsburgh, Wei Song Do, with an increased focus on self defense techniques, which in my mind was an interesting way to go." CreationDate="2020-03-20T19:44:44.690" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20078" PostId="9787" Score="0" Text="FWIW, &quot;MMA fighters&quot; covers a pretty broad range, again influenced by the rules, so they will look different in a set of rules that, say, prohibits punching to the head, or allows striking a downed opponent from a standing position. :) But you know that, and it just reinforces your point that the rules govern how people practice their art." CreationDate="2020-03-20T19:48:46.723" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20079" PostId="9797" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann They usually extend their arms and turn face down to the mat. It gives me their back, but it makes me question if I was doing it correctly." CreationDate="2020-03-20T21:10:47.297" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20080" PostId="9797" Score="0" Text="Sounds like you're maybe not throwing them hard enough. If you really try to bury them then extending their arms is dangerous for them. Regardless, giving their back is a good outcome for you. :)" CreationDate="2020-03-20T21:40:44.670" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20081" PostId="9797" Score="0" Text="I have no idea what 'because BJJ is all about &quot;closing the distance and throwing creates distance&quot;' means. How does throwing create distance?" CreationDate="2020-03-21T16:14:44.003" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20082" PostId="9797" Score="0" Text="@mattm with most throws, anyway, once you have thrown someone, there is a lot of space between you and them, which can make it difficult to get a dominant position, especially if they are experienced. What I mean is you aren't pinning yourself to them and then taking them to the ground, that's all." CreationDate="2020-03-21T16:31:20.907" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20083" PostId="9797" Score="0" Text="@LemmyX I don't agree with that at all. In the video tori ends up in a clearly dominant position. If they want to continue into the ground, they have a giant lever that prevents uke from turning away, and when tori pulls up it provides space to wedge in underneath uke so they cannot turn in." CreationDate="2020-03-21T17:13:11.843" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20084" PostId="9803" Score="0" Text="I think this depends on what your definition of &quot;streetfighter&quot; is. Is this a person with actual experience (formal or practical)? Or just a hothead on the street?" CreationDate="2020-03-22T15:12:04.437" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20085" PostId="9804" Score="0" Text="I learned in my Krav Maga class that 49% of fights start with a haymaker" CreationDate="2020-03-22T15:16:22.543" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20087" PostId="9783" Score="1" Text="Silva's defensive work from his back, in guard and even when mounted, was actually a fairly good demonstration of avoiding damage while getting hit. He rolled with nearly every punch, took far less damage on the ground than when he was standing, and tired his opponent out. This is a hard concept to grasp if you think martial arts are about being victorious every second from start to finish, but one of BJJ's strengths is finding the ideal way to survive if you find yourself stuck in a bad spot." CreationDate="2020-03-22T18:43:19.243" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20093" PostId="8195" Score="0" Text="Yes @LemmyX in a street fight and maybe other situations" CreationDate="2020-03-23T07:43:14.353" UserId="4367" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20094" PostId="9796" Score="1" Text="Does this answer your question? [Punch bags in a rental apartment](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/8339/punch-bags-in-a-rental-apartment)" CreationDate="2020-03-23T15:54:07.970" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20095" PostId="9810" Score="0" Text="As per https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/7719/1780, signs point to that you cannot." CreationDate="2020-03-23T16:31:13.190" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20097" PostId="9810" Score="1" Text="If you're asking how a foreigner can become a monk at Shaolin Temple, I answered that at the link Macaco Branco mentioned above. You can't. You can become a disciple. It's not the same, but that shouldn't stop you. As for not being a foreigner and instead living in China and raising your kid age 4 or 5, that's a question I've not asked before. I think it's exceedingly rare (almost impossible) for any Chinese born national to be picked to be a monk. For a foreigner's kid, it would be even more impossible. They probably will not take non-Chinese monks, period. I don't know for sure..." CreationDate="2020-03-23T16:43:56.097" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20098" PostId="9810" Score="1" Text="... Your best bet if you want to train like a monk or want your kid to train like a monk is to become a disciple under a monk and train there for however long you can. Then when you return to your own country, seek out others like you or ex-monks from Shaolin who now live in your country. They get around! You'd be surprised. Take plenty of video. Then train on your own by reminding yourself what to do from watching the video." CreationDate="2020-03-23T16:46:30.617" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20099" PostId="9796" Score="0" Text="@MikeP No, My problem is that it makes a lot of noise, theirs is that it takes up space and that they can't find a place to put it. The answers on that question also don't answer this question." CreationDate="2020-03-23T17:04:53.153" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20100" PostId="9810" Score="1" Text="Does this answer your question? [Could a non-Buddhist person become a monk/master at Shao-lin temple?](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/7719/could-a-non-buddhist-person-become-a-monk-master-at-shao-lin-temple)" CreationDate="2020-03-23T17:09:07.360" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20101" PostId="9810" Score="0" Text="Am I the only one that's noticed how many questions about Shaolin we've been getting lately?" CreationDate="2020-03-23T17:10:15.233" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20102" PostId="9796" Score="1" Text="I agree that your question is not a duplicate in the sense that it asks for something different. I disagree, however, that the answers to the other question do not answer yours. The answers basically say you cannot fix the noise issue with apartment neighbors." CreationDate="2020-03-23T17:37:19.660" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20105" PostId="9813" Score="2" Text="Note that this question bears a strong resemblance to this other, ill-received question: [Why do Wrestling and BJJ exist when Sambo and catch-wrestling are more complete arts?](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/9786/5961)" CreationDate="2020-03-23T20:56:46.377" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20106" PostId="9815" Score="0" Text="But if you control position, you can trap them in a submission and threaten to finish if they try to resist. It also prevents them from getting back up and continuing from their feet." CreationDate="2020-03-23T22:26:58.360" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20107" PostId="9814" Score="0" Text="BJJ can also be won by points from getting dominant positions, sweeps, or takedowns. BJJ can be finished from standing, such as a standing cross collar choke, standing kimura, etc. I disagree that fighting exclusively on the ground is bad. While it makes you have a weakness of maybe not knowing what you're doing standing up, it brings attackers into an area of expertise that they probably know nothing about. They will probably try to punch you, and BJJ as several sets on that..." CreationDate="2020-03-23T22:32:35.930" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20109" PostId="9815" Score="0" Text="@LemmyX The moment I move to mount/side control, I'm wide open to a stomp from any bystander who decides to get involved." CreationDate="2020-03-23T22:42:42.960" UserId="10658" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20110" PostId="9815" Score="0" Text="Yeah, maybe, but that's why you should check your surroundings before engaging in a streetfight. If there are a lot of people, don't try to get a dominant position." CreationDate="2020-03-23T22:43:54.710" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20111" PostId="9815" Score="0" Text="@LemmyX maybe I only see one guy, then someone from outside my line of sight moves in as soon as I go in for a takedown. Personally, I'll throw the first guy on his head (staying on my feet), then see who else still has the nerve to come at me." CreationDate="2020-03-23T22:48:25.343" UserId="10658" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20112" PostId="9815" Score="0" Text="Yeah, again, it's all subjective and about preference." CreationDate="2020-03-23T22:49:06.437" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20113" PostId="9814" Score="0" Text="@mattm remember when they had to make it illegal for a Judo player to post on their head to land in a bridge to avoid a score? Perfect example of focusing on sport and getting hurt." CreationDate="2020-03-24T00:08:59.570" UserId="10658" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20114" PostId="9811" Score="1" Text="https://www.reddit.com/r/bjj/comments/8f2ekx/historical_record_of_a_prototriangle_choke_in/" CreationDate="2020-03-24T09:42:23.660" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20115" PostId="9810" Score="1" Text="@LemmyX: Things come in waves. Sometimes it's a matter of someone seeing an existing question and thinking, &quot;Hey, I've got something I want to ask about that.&quot;" CreationDate="2020-03-24T16:01:34.657" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20116" PostId="9810" Score="0" Text="@shi_yanhao might be able to answer this" CreationDate="2020-03-24T16:50:50.790" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20117" PostId="9818" Score="0" Text="What part of your leg are you putting in the crook of your opponent's knee, and where does it hurt you?" CreationDate="2020-03-24T17:28:48.247" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20118" PostId="9818" Score="0" Text="@ukemi - I think I am putting my upper calf in the crook of their knee. The part that hurts is actually where I figure-4 my legs, it's almost like I am calf-slicing myself." CreationDate="2020-03-24T17:35:38.350" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20119" PostId="9818" Score="0" Text="Is there any particular reason you are using your upper calf as opposed to your shin/ankle? The figure four is (as I understand it) to stabilise the position of your shin in the crook of their knee, and keep it flush with it. You shouldn't need to squeeze the life out of your own leg (and depending on your position, you can simply push with your other foot as opposed to figure 4-ing). Another possible tip - if you are grabbing and pulling their ankle, try holding/pulling from their toes - it will require less strength to apply the lock." CreationDate="2020-03-24T17:40:43.180" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20120" PostId="9818" Score="0" Text="@ukemi - I meant to say shin, not calf. I halve already tried pulling the toes, figure-fouring my legs, and hipping up all at the same time. I find this is like a 50% success rate, but it always is extremely uncomfortable." CreationDate="2020-03-24T17:48:19.333" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20121" PostId="9819" Score="0" Text="Is there also a roadblock for fighting people with way longer legs than you? That's usually the case for me. Now that I think about it, it does work better against people who are &lt;= my size." CreationDate="2020-03-24T17:51:12.060" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20122" PostId="9820" Score="2" Text="Question is very interesting, but maybe, it means a bit opposite - in such future world each and every would have to be experienced in MA, to prevent being an easy target.)" CreationDate="2020-03-25T07:53:16.880" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20123" PostId="8224" Score="0" Text="Yes, I agree. If you exactly know what you are doing like in BJJ, being on the ground is probably an advantage. Usually I don't expect someone asking this sort of question has this type of knowledge, therefore I put it into the list of &quot;No-Go's&quot;. My personal advice would be to see every situation as a potential disadvantage, so you are always prepared." CreationDate="2020-03-25T08:01:54.857" UserId="9218" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20124" PostId="9820" Score="0" Text="@user2501323 good point." CreationDate="2020-03-25T13:59:25.857" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20125" PostId="9821" Score="0" Text="Something else is that the number of KIDS and young people doing martial arts is going up, and I'm pretty sure that the number of older people doing martial arts is going down." CreationDate="2020-03-25T14:02:03.053" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20126" PostId="9710" Score="0" Text="What's an arm-in North-South choke? Every N-S choke I know is specifically arms-out by design." CreationDate="2020-03-25T14:32:05.077" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20127" PostId="9710" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I don't think it's a very common submission, but here it is demo'd transitioning from side-control: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W182KibtP0" CreationDate="2020-03-25T15:53:01.850" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20128" PostId="9821" Score="0" Text="Honestly, I'd rather have them try to put me in a leglock then try to kick me, because that is where my experience is. Also, I seriously doubt that they would be able to finish it, because there are so many important details. I even still have trouble finishing a straight-ankle-lock." CreationDate="2020-03-25T16:07:16.160" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20129" PostId="9821" Score="0" Text="A day-one noob who has seen Ryan Hall fight in the UFC can scare even a blue belt with a surprise heel hook cranked with full intensity. Not saying they'll finish it but they'll give you a scare and make you work." CreationDate="2020-03-25T16:17:40.773" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20130" PostId="9821" Score="0" Text="Only if they can get my heel. Ashi-garami is my strong suit." CreationDate="2020-03-25T16:22:07.613" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20131" PostId="9230" Score="0" Text="Mifune's *Canon of Judo* (1956) lists coloured belts for Beginners (light blue), Juniors (white &lt; 3-kyu, violet &gt; 3-kyu), and Seniors (White 4/5-kyu, brown 3/2/1-kyu)" CreationDate="2020-03-26T00:06:10.397" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20132" PostId="9822" Score="2" Text="This wraps around the square knot?" CreationDate="2020-03-26T10:58:33.913" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20133" PostId="9822" Score="0" Text="I do not quite understand how this is actually supposed to help or even necessary, considering that there are ways to tie the belt which reliably hold through even the toughest rolling sessions to the point that the belt usually has to be untied because of a messy gi (ie. completely pulled out of the belt and stuffed back several times) way before the knot opens..." CreationDate="2020-03-26T13:32:32.183" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20134" PostId="9823" Score="2" Text="The question is not about what the southpaw and orthodox stances are. The question is about why boxing trains fighters with a side preference." CreationDate="2020-03-26T13:41:05.970" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20135" PostId="9777" Score="0" Text="I found this video, and I think that this is the same throw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECBlj3DG5pQ&amp;feature=youtu.be" CreationDate="2020-03-26T17:23:59.423" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20141" PostId="9502" Score="0" Text="Related: https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/1352/whats-the-difference-between-iaijutsu-and-iaido https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/676/what-are-the-key-differences-between-kendo-and-kenjutsu https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/9578/what-did-judo-change-innovate-when-it-branched-from-jujutsu" CreationDate="2020-03-26T23:40:51.230" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20142" PostId="9748" Score="0" Text="Sure, but how often? The prevalence is lower compared to other techniques e.g. straight / cross. Boxing guards in MMA just get punched and kicked through. Successful guards extended in response, range extends and hook punches are less useful. Exactly the same for karate." CreationDate="2020-03-27T10:07:57.117" UserId="10587" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20143" PostId="9755" Score="1" Text="Thank you for your kind words on providing resistance within the acting." CreationDate="2020-03-27T18:19:24.450" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20144" PostId="9828" Score="1" Text="It would be helpful to be more specific about &quot;training&quot;. Are you intending to take falls on this surface? Are you intending to throw?" CreationDate="2020-03-29T16:43:44.290" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20145" PostId="9828" Score="0" Text="Yeah I wrote about falls. No throws intended although it would be a +" CreationDate="2020-03-29T16:52:58.570" UserId="10727" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20146" PostId="9828" Score="1" Text="Which martial arts would you be practicing? What activities do you see doing the most? Karate kata? Punch/kick stuff? Grappling / wrestling? Throws? General fitness (jumping jacks, burpees, etc.)? Skip rope? Running in place? Knowing that would be helpful." CreationDate="2020-03-29T21:18:20.353" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20151" PostId="9822" Score="0" Text="Fresh and unseasoned belts are hard, good knots won't stay in place. The velcro helps" CreationDate="2020-04-02T12:56:22.013" UserId="8980" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20152" PostId="4626" Score="0" Text="Considering that you edited this 2 years after your initial comment, does the comment still apply?" CreationDate="2020-04-02T15:24:38.463" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20153" PostId="9166" Score="0" Text="I have seen the light with you. Arigatou" CreationDate="2020-04-05T14:45:29.257" UserId="9926" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20155" PostId="9836" Score="1" Text="I suppose that pincing strength (between thumb and fingers) locks the elbow, and in extension shoulder and therefore the rest of the body (and tai sabaki). The thread mentions locking the wrist only. Pure speculation here, though." CreationDate="2020-04-10T10:02:40.013" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20163" PostId="9842" Score="0" Text="When in Rome. Do you see anyone else in your school doing this? If so, it's okay. If not, don't. Each school is different with a different culture." CreationDate="2020-04-16T14:26:44.633" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20164" PostId="9842" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand I'm asking, first of all, because all of the local schools are currently closed, and second of all, because I want to know wheather or not it's widely accepted." CreationDate="2020-04-16T15:44:11.003" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20165" PostId="9844" Score="1" Text="What is your goal and distance? In Kyokushin, you typically have a rather short distance and one of your main goals is not telegraphing too early what you are going for (hence the knee movement of your kicking leg being paramount). In kickboxing, you have more distance and work with lead-ins. In muay thai, it depends on whether your talking coming from clinch or distance. And then there's speed and impact..." CreationDate="2020-04-17T09:36:54.467" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20171" PostId="9846" Score="0" Text="weird thing is that my left foot is more flexible than the right and when I try to perform a roundhouse with my left I do it almost perfectly with good form, except with less power than my right. So with my left, my supporting foot rotate almost a 180 degree, while my hips rotates. While with my not so flexible right leg, my supporting left foot rotates barely maybe about 45 or 60 degrees from the normal position and I am able to performe (IMO) a good roundhouse with good power and hip movement. So in conclusion, I honestly don't know......" CreationDate="2020-04-19T16:55:04.283" UserId="10707" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20172" PostId="9846" Score="0" Text="if the rotation of the supporting foot neccesary. Cuz I experience two different conflicting things, with my left and right. Also to note, when throwing a low roundhose my supporting leg actually rotates a good deal. It's when doing a high roundhouse is where I get into trouble." CreationDate="2020-04-19T16:56:46.223" UserId="10707" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20173" PostId="9846" Score="1" Text="@EPICTubeHD: I'll be honest. I don't know if I have enough information to diagnose the problem even if I had the expertise (I did Tae Kwan Do for a while, but most of my experience is in Capoeira, which operates differently). Can you post video of you doing the kick on each side?" CreationDate="2020-04-20T10:40:32.517" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20180" PostId="9848" Score="1" Text="https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/6361/wing-chun-for-practical-close-in-defense and https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/9753/effectiveness-of-bujinkan-ninjutsu/9755#9755 may be relevant to read." CreationDate="2020-04-21T14:44:07.357" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20181" PostId="9848" Score="1" Text="https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/5462/is-there-a-reason-why-wing-chun-is-uncommon-in-mma?rq=1 perhaps too." CreationDate="2020-04-21T14:44:29.867" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20182" PostId="9848" Score="2" Text="By &quot;criteria&quot;, I mean &quot;how do you gauge which is better?&quot; Tae Kwan Do is an excellent thing to study for sports sparring and kicking techniques. Capoeira is one of the best martial arts for musical integration and acrobatics. Boxing is a solid choice for upright hands-based fighting and teaches you a lot about continuing to fight after you start getting punched. Bujinkan ninjitsu gives you experience with weapons earlier than most styles, same with most forms of Escrima. Which is the best choice for you depends on what you're looking for." CreationDate="2020-04-21T14:52:06.463" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20183" PostId="9848" Score="0" Text="My answers: https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/9753/effectiveness-of-bujinkan-ninjutsu/9755#9755 , https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/4806/are-there-any-effective-kung-fu-fighters-in-mma/4807#4807 , https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/2802/defence-against-wing-chun/2809#2809" CreationDate="2020-04-21T15:43:03.493" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20184" PostId="6649" Score="2" Text="Neglecting conditioning is not as a good a reason to boast as the author seems to think it is. Also, the barrier to entry for **MMA** is much, much lower than for the top-tier promotion the UFC. You can essentially walk off the street and take an amateur fight if you think you have the stuff." CreationDate="2020-04-21T19:10:07.017" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20185" PostId="9848" Score="1" Text="My main question is, why did you start thinking about learning these concrete styles? What did you find interesting in them in particular? It would be important to know this, so that we can start to answer or at least help you with feedback on whether your thinking is based in reality." CreationDate="2020-04-21T19:58:25.670" UserId="1302" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20186" PostId="4868" Score="0" Text="In theory, clinching and knees can prevent a grappler release his standing grappling arsenal. Good middle and low kicks can keep them busy and prevent them from attempting tackles. Knees however are the best weapon to counter an approaching tackle. But theories need execution, and grappling has its own theories against them, so it just becomes a battle of who can executes their theories better." CreationDate="2020-04-22T07:35:24.127" UserId="5630" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20202" PostId="9849" Score="0" Text="Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been [moved to chat](https://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/107096/discussion-on-answer-by-dave-liepmann-help-me-make-a-choice-wing-chun-or-bujink)." CreationDate="2020-04-23T14:37:07.597" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20203" PostId="9855" Score="0" Text="You said that when the choke fails there are those three submissions. But do you have to alter your position slightly in order to do the other submissions? What I'm asking is if there are any positions where you &quot;double tap&quot; someone, meaning get them to tap because of multiple submissions applied at once." CreationDate="2020-04-23T15:06:06.907" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20204" PostId="9855" Score="1" Text="This belly-down &quot;pinning triangle&quot; is common in judo and definitely can be performed as a simultaneous choke and *udegarami*. A jujigatame is more often a combination attack but can in some circumstance be simultaneous." CreationDate="2020-04-23T15:12:05.513" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20205" PostId="9855" Score="0" Text="@Lemmyx You can do a choke simultaneously with either armbar. The far arm is easier to attack without shifting." CreationDate="2020-04-23T15:13:19.437" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20206" PostId="9854" Score="0" Text="You should ask someone better at Danaher-style leglocks than me whether any Double Trouble leg entanglements can actually be used for simultaneous attack. I don't know any and it sounds low-percentage, but it's possible." CreationDate="2020-04-23T15:39:49.067" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20207" PostId="9848" Score="1" Text="@BKE I think the restriction to these two styles is based on availability at asker's university. If there were other options available, presumably they would be included." CreationDate="2020-04-23T19:47:41.433" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20208" PostId="9858" Score="3" Text="You're not always in a fight when you fall, which is why many argue that it is the most important martial art skill that you can learn. For instance, you could just be carrying groceries up your icy walkway." CreationDate="2020-04-24T15:33:50.563" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20209" PostId="9836" Score="1" Text="With a tense thumb I may be actively working against that thumb if I re-position my body." CreationDate="2020-04-24T15:38:36.310" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20210" PostId="9858" Score="0" Text="@LemmyX Also true." CreationDate="2020-04-24T15:39:17.760" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20211" PostId="9859" Score="0" Text="You definitely don’t get the same sensory feedback on mats—that’s the explicit purpose of mats." CreationDate="2020-04-24T18:41:12.200" UserId="13" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20212" PostId="4614" Score="1" Text="I’m voting to close this question because this question is based on one specific area." CreationDate="2020-04-26T07:52:39.523" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20213" PostId="9853" Score="0" Text="Thank you for this awesome answer. I just had one question, could you re-explain the bit where you said &quot;Overall, I suspect Bujinkan would be a bit more useful for your purposes here, **as there was an emphasis on learning a technique and then training it in different circumstances, so it was a bit more grounded in learning to do it under pressure and when the opponent doesn't stand in the right place**&quot;" CreationDate="2020-04-26T13:34:13.407" UserId="10707" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20214" PostId="9853" Score="0" Text="Honestly, I am kinda a guy who doesn't really appreciate the sport aspect of MMA. I love training, I'd definitely love to spar and let my techniques flourish and essentially be creative and treat martial arts as an ART. So that's the reason why I am so inclined into integrating different styles of traditional martial arts into my arsenal and investigate if it works. Certainly, if I were to fight for real and fight in the cage, I'd definitely wouldn't want to waste my time investigating and start working on things that have been proven to work many times over." CreationDate="2020-04-26T13:37:54.430" UserId="10707" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20215" PostId="9853" Score="0" Text="Also, why do u think, based on your answer Bujinkan is a better choice compared to Wing Chun. I mean, I know u answered that already, but what does wing Chun lack that Bujinkan has in terms of training and that will help or degrade my MMA training" CreationDate="2020-04-26T14:00:00.177" UserId="10707" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20216" PostId="9853" Score="1" Text="My experience with Wing Chun is that it's very focused on very fixed attacks and responses (at least at the lower levels I trained at). There is a specific defense to a specific punch, and you train from the exact same positions each time as you drill the motion, again in line with the historical basis of training people to fight other Kung Fu styles. Bujinkan, you're more likely to be shown a specific attack and then shown 3-4 different ways to defend, and people are more encouraged to vary their angle of attack, positioning, etc." CreationDate="2020-04-26T16:16:36.713" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20217" PostId="9853" Score="1" Text="Ultimately, if you want to pursue the art as art, just do it. Don't worry about the MMA applicability of it. If a particular attack seems like it might be fun to try, try it with a partner and make sure that they actively resist and try different counters so that you get used to acting and reacting instead of following a set form." CreationDate="2020-04-26T16:17:53.273" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20218" PostId="9861" Score="0" Text="This is what I would have suggested as well. Occasional rolls and falls on harder ground - which can be old mats on concrete, rice mats, wooden floor, etc. - showed me deficiencies in my technique because of a vastly different feedback. But training it repeatedly is dangerous. And for everyday problems like slipping on ice (breakfall) or stumbling down a stair (roll) it's always been enough. One thing to add maybe: active slapping is not advisable on hard surfaces if you don't like your wrist or hand bones broken. It is actually a &quot;bad habit&quot; learned on mats." CreationDate="2020-04-27T09:16:37.227" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20219" PostId="9853" Score="2" Text="@EPICTubeHD One thing I want to pass along to you, besides what I wrote in my answers linked to in the comments section: A lot of people doing TMA are there because they think it will give them the &quot;smart&quot; thing to do in order to have a huge advantage over others in a fight. They are dazzled by dim-mak / kyusho-jitsu, forms, qigong, meditation, funky ways of moving, and &quot;secret&quot; techniques. None of that stuff actually &quot;works&quot;. But what they're looking for is right there in MMA and BJJ. It will give them the huge advantage they're looking for, like no other &quot;style&quot; does. Something to consider." CreationDate="2020-04-27T18:39:00.957" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20220" PostId="9853" Score="2" Text="@SteveWeigand: Arguably, a lot of them also do it because they want to be able to do the flashy kicks and flips like in the movies. :) And, for that, I'd say your better bet is looking at a Tricking or Gymnastics class, because even the styles who have that usually make you spend a lot of time drilling basic kicks and punches first." CreationDate="2020-04-27T18:46:19.913" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20222" PostId="9867" Score="4" Text="What's wrong with Tai Chi? Have you ever watched tai chi sparring competitions? As with all martial arts it's more about the practitioner than the art." CreationDate="2020-04-30T13:03:46.637" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20223" PostId="9867" Score="0" Text="As I maybe should have mentioned better, I am not at all experienced in martial arts, but I searched somewhat on the internet and the general consensus seemed to be that Thai Chi is that effective as a martial art. But maybe I have just been misled by people that pretend to know what they're talking about." CreationDate="2020-04-30T13:11:59.980" UserId="10800" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20225" PostId="9867" Score="1" Text="So, to be clear is the consensus among clearly more experienced people that Thai Chi is the martial art that best suits my needs?" CreationDate="2020-04-30T13:20:18.773" UserId="10800" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20226" PostId="9867" Score="1" Text="[It is important to understand that much instruction in tai chi is not as a martial art.](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/5938/5961)" CreationDate="2020-04-30T13:41:44.400" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20228" PostId="9867" Score="0" Text="https://youtu.be/Y_T0qJmXMSU might also be useful. He demonstrates the golf swing throw in one of his other videos." CreationDate="2020-04-30T14:38:56.717" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20229" PostId="9867" Score="3" Text="You can't learn Tai Chi (taiji) for real from video. You'll need to get with a competent instructor. And even then, only about 1% of the instructors out there know taiji for real. And by &quot;for real&quot;, I mean understanding internal mechanics. Being able to fight using taiji is a 10+ year endeavor. Most people never are able to get to that point, because they lack a good instructor. If all you want is to move slowly, to breathe while moving, and to look like you're doing something martial, then yes learning from video will get you that." CreationDate="2020-04-30T14:50:08.073" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20230" PostId="9867" Score="1" Text="Thanks, as an amateur it is sometimes really hard to estimate how hard something is and how effective. But all comments here helped me realize that the level of mastery is more important than the type of martial art. I think I will just do some casual Thai Chi to relax knowing that in this way I will likely never become a better fighter like this, but will be able to get a glimpse into the culture of Chinese martial arts." CreationDate="2020-04-30T15:11:55.420" UserId="10800" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20231" PostId="9867" Score="1" Text="Hmm... it's faster, and also not terribly combat effective as generally taught, but Capoeira isn't a bad style for being self-aware. A lot of it is about controlling your body to hold the various acrobatic positions, and the music is good for getting you into a meditative state. That said, it's also a hard one to learn by video." CreationDate="2020-04-30T18:02:42.907" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20232" PostId="6748" Score="0" Text="Sadly, the video no longer exists. :-(" CreationDate="2020-04-30T19:42:14.727" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20239" PostId="9870" Score="0" Text="So what you're saying is that the primary difference is *kata*?" CreationDate="2020-05-03T13:49:11.100" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20240" PostId="8198" Score="0" Text="RPE+Rating of perceived exertion (Scale). As a taijiquan instructor who teaches for wellnes, fitness along with those recovering from pain, etc, I have to be aware of individual's disease state status because if someone is interested in tai chi an dthey see Chen style, for most people on seeing its movement execution, exrtion would be high meaning greater heart rate, greater anxiety, etc when beginning Chen style and if that aggravates their condition, that is bad. In short, the intensity of Chen style would be too high for the individual and therefore have not so good consequences for health." CreationDate="2020-05-03T14:36:41.577" UserId="6403" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20241" PostId="9132" Score="0" Text="@Paul &quot;The other answers detail the differences in legal techniques, rules, and scoring and how these explicitly and more subtly influence the style of the sports...&quot;" CreationDate="2020-05-03T17:24:55.757" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20245" PostId="9512" Score="1" Text="I'm not going to answer a question brainstorming ways to learn to disfigure and torture except to say this: I pity people obsessed with brutal or forbidden maiming techniques. It's not healthy; it's an indication of something in the direction of mental illness. As kindly as I can: please try to get involved in a sport instead, preferably a combat or team sport. I came across this point of view years ago from Matt Thornton and every example since has made me believe it more strongly." CreationDate="2020-05-04T12:10:28.313" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20251" PostId="9710" Score="0" Text="Note: add section on nomenclature of shine-waza and how this has differed historically from nage-waza (single example technique names picked as umbrella term for many (cf ma méthode de judo) others, name doesn't necessarily characterise all such variants etc)" CreationDate="2020-05-05T13:04:24.303" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20253" PostId="9877" Score="1" Text="I personally wear a headband during Capoeira because I sweat profusely with even a mild workout, and it does help keep my eyes clear of sweat, but it is not standard. Now if you asked why scarfs are traditional in some schools of Capoeira, that I can answer, although again, it's a mix of tradition and legend. :-P" CreationDate="2020-05-05T15:41:50.770" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20255" PostId="9872" Score="0" Text="Video example of throwing techniques: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ1T4CONLWI" CreationDate="2020-05-05T22:27:21.443" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20259" PostId="9161" Score="0" Text="Anatomical movement terminology: https://courses.lumenlearning.com/boundless-ap/chapter/mapping-the-body/" CreationDate="2020-05-06T10:33:57.903" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20260" PostId="9873" Score="0" Text="In most of the US stand your ground applies." CreationDate="2020-05-06T12:32:44.433" UserId="10259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20262" PostId="9880" Score="1" Text="I can't speak to the particular sword, but my experience with most weapons built for stage combat is that they are not designed for the unpredictable nature of actual sparring, and are therefore more likely to break, splinter, or shatter." CreationDate="2020-05-07T20:39:34.283" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20263" PostId="9513" Score="0" Text="Excessive force is not a thing for most of the US. I assume make sure the assailant cannot pursue, and then call the cops." CreationDate="2020-05-08T00:32:22.603" UserId="10259" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20264" PostId="9877" Score="0" Text="Do you have any idea if different colors mean anything?" CreationDate="2020-05-08T15:42:24.110" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20265" PostId="9877" Score="0" Text="For *hakimashi*? Capoeira scarfs?" CreationDate="2020-05-08T15:47:10.303" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20266" PostId="9877" Score="0" Text="I was thinking more in the Japanese arts where it's super common to see them." CreationDate="2020-05-08T15:50:05.523" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20269" PostId="9875" Score="0" Text="Some information on the cultural significance in Japan - and for karate - at https://japandaily.jp/hachimaki-japanese-headband-gives-energy-4223/ &#xA;My shinkyokushin sensei in Tokyo would very occasionally put one on if undertaking some very intense training." CreationDate="2020-05-09T01:23:03.303" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20273" PostId="9512" Score="0" Text="I have revised the final question to indicate that they are trying to verify that the Krav Maga is, indeed, hard style. Still don't know if I agree with the question, but it's done." CreationDate="2020-05-11T16:18:32.617" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20274" PostId="9877" Score="0" Text="As far as I know, the colors have no formal meaning, although everything I've found so far indicates that red and white are the two colors acceptable in most styles that use *hachimaki*. I haven't found any reasoning why other than &quot;tradition&quot;, but it probably has something to do with undyed cloth being cheaper and red being close to the color of blood (&quot;Bring me my red shit/brown pants&quot; and all that)." CreationDate="2020-05-11T16:24:10.723" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20275" PostId="9882" Score="0" Text="E.g. some tackles: *dhobi, puthhi, saaltu, bagaldoop*." CreationDate="2020-05-11T17:36:25.970" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20276" PostId="9882" Score="0" Text="I did a bit of poking around, but the best I've found so far are some partially translated Iranian texts in the parallel Pahlwani style." CreationDate="2020-05-12T00:13:35.617" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20277" PostId="9883" Score="1" Text="Thanks, I don't I am invested enough to actually get good, but I am now following the Youtube series of Nick Oscipzcack and it feels like he can explain the basics really well. It is interesting how different it is from the intros to different martial arts that I've learned at school." CreationDate="2020-05-12T08:01:26.263" UserId="10800" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20278" PostId="9883" Score="0" Text="I agree with all of this except: &quot;Sure, you won’t reach a master level effectiveness in years to come, but same is true for any other martial art, so why would Taijiquan be any different.&quot; Because it's harder to learn to fight without relying upon muscular strength and speed." CreationDate="2020-05-12T12:23:34.580" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20279" PostId="9883" Score="0" Text="@mattm this is why you need a teacher - to keep you on the track and remind you all the time to improve the technique." CreationDate="2020-05-12T13:39:34.057" UserId="424" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20280" PostId="9883" Score="1" Text="That said, the use of “muscular strengt/speed” is not really all that antithetical to Taijiquan as it is being portrayed to be. One does need to employ muscles to move one’s body - there’s no way around that. No amount of Qi power will be able to replace that basic body mechanics still need to apply. The important part is to keep the proper balance between soft and hard and keeping the ability to switch immediately between the two. That training is important part of martial training but efficient use of basic techniques can be mastered long before external softness and sensitivity gets there" CreationDate="2020-05-12T13:40:19.187" UserId="424" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20283" PostId="9883" Score="0" Text="Qi discussions aside, the issue is that the taiji body mechanics are more difficult. It is straightforward body mechanics to say the scapula should move freely and the head should be carried over the spine without tension so that leg power is more efficiently transmitted to the hands (the normal person's soft is not soft enough). Altering the body to achieve this is hard and takes time. A common approach is to ignore this efficiency component and simply develop more muscular force (relying on muscular strength), which almost always yields better results in the short term." CreationDate="2020-05-13T12:08:20.783" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20284" PostId="9885" Score="0" Text="Thank you I was thinking to go towards kendo or Iaido but now I think that jujitsu or kendo would be better thank you for the information." CreationDate="2020-05-13T13:43:39.133" UserId="10820" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20285" PostId="9885" Score="0" Text="No worries. If you want to accept my answer, you can by clicking on the checkmark by the voting buttons as per the [tour]. You can always change your accepted answer by clicking on that checkmark, or another one, at any time." CreationDate="2020-05-13T13:45:37.443" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20286" PostId="9884" Score="0" Text="https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/6868/kend%c3%b4-iaid%c3%b4-j%c3%b4d%c3%b4-battod%c3%b4-chanbara-which-one-should-i-pick?rq=1 might be useful material." CreationDate="2020-05-13T13:46:21.533" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20287" PostId="9883" Score="1" Text="@mattm A taiji teacher who says their body mechanics are more esoteric and difficult than that of judo or boxing has a high likelihood of not knowing how to fight. The idea that taiji is more focused on relaxation than other combat sports is just plain false — we can look at the historical record to see when it arose purely as a marketing tactic." CreationDate="2020-05-13T13:53:52.863" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20288" PostId="9887" Score="0" Text="Ok, but what about kicks?" CreationDate="2020-05-13T15:31:37.477" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20289" PostId="9887" Score="0" Text="Oh. Maybe I see. Do you mean &quot;front-kicks&quot; to the neck?" CreationDate="2020-05-13T15:32:08.830" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20290" PostId="9887" Score="0" Text="Mainly front kicks, but I can also imagine round kicks and side kicks too, and possibly even wheel kicks." CreationDate="2020-05-13T15:34:35.633" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20291" PostId="9887" Score="0" Text="@LemmyX, understand - I'm sorry, not got it from the question.  Don't know what to do - maybe delete? It is enough another way of training, not described in my answer" CreationDate="2020-05-13T15:36:29.063" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20292" PostId="9887" Score="0" Text="But if you do not mean, I'll try to rephrase" CreationDate="2020-05-13T15:37:14.250" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20293" PostId="9887" Score="0" Text="No, go ahead and keep your answer, it's just not quite what I was looking for :)" CreationDate="2020-05-13T15:40:57.253" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20294" PostId="9887" Score="0" Text="@LemmyX, done my best, and what I described really helped me. And I hope, it may help you and all other users visiting this question)" CreationDate="2020-05-13T15:45:48.230" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20295" PostId="9889" Score="0" Text="I've only seen a handful that got to weapons. Most of them are just grappling and striking." CreationDate="2020-05-14T20:58:57.513" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20297" PostId="9891" Score="0" Text="One nitpick: Even though grip strength primarily relies on the middle, ring, and index finger, the point of putting the thumb in is not strength per se, but the fact that you have a &quot;hook&quot; in the cloth and generally more friction to you grip so that it is **much** harder to get rid of that grip." CreationDate="2020-05-15T13:21:19.607" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20298" PostId="6212" Score="0" Text="Yup, happening to me right now." CreationDate="2020-05-17T02:13:29.283" UserId="7756" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20299" PostId="9892" Score="1" Text="I'm not following how this relates to octagonal versus cylindrical. Are you saying the sides should match knuckle lengths?" CreationDate="2020-05-20T14:27:23.573" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20308" PostId="9895" Score="2" Text="Mentors teach you how to answer the question for yourself." CreationDate="2020-05-23T01:55:46.300" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20309" PostId="9896" Score="1" Text="I'd like to emphasise that one can hardly be a good coach without also being a mentor in martial arts. It's not exactly like American Football with tactics from a draw board so that you have to get your student to be able to act highly independent, and high levels involve a lot of 1on1 training which necessarily involves psychological and general life support." CreationDate="2020-05-24T19:44:49.567" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20310" PostId="9883" Score="0" Text="I would add to this that Tai Chi is a grappling art first and foremost.  Many practitioners perpetuate the idea it's a striking art.  You need to overcome this if you are to learn to fight with it.  Best TaiChi applications video I have seen is this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wi67jk5lAM" CreationDate="2020-05-25T10:45:51.133" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20312" PostId="9899" Score="1" Text="Welcome to the site! Please note, there is nothing preventing you from linking to your own site in answers, however this must be disclosed. Also, excessive linking to your blog can be marked as spam. Please see the [guidelines on expected behavior](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help/behavior)." CreationDate="2020-05-26T13:11:58.317" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20314" PostId="9857" Score="1" Text="Not an answer, but a voice of experience.&#xA;A view week ago I fell after slipping on icy metal, and I think I fell quite well. Only a few scratches. Days later a had bruises and now I have to wait some weeks for the blood to get out of my ellbow.&#xA;The point is, in training I know I will fall, so I am mentally prepared.&#xA;Here it came by surprise, so the training helped, but it didn't prevent everything." CreationDate="2020-05-26T14:18:56.733" UserId="10685" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20315" PostId="9889" Score="0" Text="Most styles don't have weapons, that is right.&#xA;Doing also Ju Jutsu we include some Pekiti T. Kali in our training.&#xA;In the PMA, Kali, Eskrima etc. there is no or minimal differences between hand, Knife, stick or sword from the motion.&#xA;So, training with a stick is like training with a sword the same length." CreationDate="2020-05-26T15:46:41.663" UserId="10685" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20316" PostId="9899" Score="0" Text="I was just referring to a link. There is an option to refer links in comments or maybe stackexchange should delete that option?" CreationDate="2020-05-26T20:09:31.993" UserId="10841" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20317" PostId="9899" Score="1" Text="It is not problematic to use links, it is problematic to link to one's own content without a disclosure of the ownership. Links should provide evidence and facts strengthening your point with the main points being quoted in the body of the text, not the same unsubstantiated content." CreationDate="2020-05-26T20:18:16.833" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20318" PostId="9896" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking Coaches can produce athletes who win while being despicable life influences. [Kayla Harrison (judo Olympic gold medalist)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kayla_Harrison) won national championships under a coach later convicted for sexual abuse. She speaks out on this issue. [College wrestling in the US had medical staff who abused athletes while coaches did nothing.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_State_University_abuse_scandal)." CreationDate="2020-05-27T03:20:06.537" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20319" PostId="9899" Score="0" Text="As Philip says, the content should be quoted or used here, with the link used as support. As much as is possible, we are also fact based. You are welcome to link to your blog in your profile, there is even a space for it. You can also use your blog in answers, but you need to tell people that's what you are doing, and that should be done on a limited basis." CreationDate="2020-05-27T12:37:59.173" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20322" PostId="9902" Score="0" Text="Knee on neck doesn't give you an advance.&#xA;In my art we do knee on opponent in submission, but knee on neck temporarely only if we have the legs set up the wrong way. But then I'll resort myself and my opponent under me to a better setup." CreationDate="2020-05-28T04:29:05.477" UserId="10685" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20323" PostId="9902" Score="0" Text="@Bru Yes that's why I said it's not really a tactical advantage." CreationDate="2020-05-28T04:35:41.830" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20324" PostId="9902" Score="0" Text="The average officer around here will have 0 Krav Maga experience, they save that for the army. Officer training is more judo, jujitsu and perhaps some aikido. But Krav Maga is definitely an option for this question." CreationDate="2020-05-28T05:50:06.400" UserId="10080" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20326" PostId="9902" Score="0" Text="&quot;However, I'm not sure that this would be used in KM because it doesn't really give a tactical advantage.&quot; How about &quot;stop moving or I'll kill you&quot; as part of a submission hold?" CreationDate="2020-05-28T06:27:03.873" UserId="10372" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20327" PostId="9902" Score="2" Text="If killing is an option and you are in the army in a theatre of war, surely you just put your weapon against them.  (gun, or maybe knife).  kneeling on the neck seems a poor choice.  If killing them is not an option because you 'need' a prisoner knee on neck would have a higher chance of killing the enemy than other manuvers.  It just generally seems a bad choice." CreationDate="2020-05-28T10:52:02.977" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20328" PostId="9901" Score="5" Text="Pretty much all classical jujitsu (including Bujinkan) incorporates knee on back, shoulder, upper arm, neck, and other areas. Usually this is done after taking someone to the ground face first while maintaining an armbar behind his back. The combination of armbar and knee creates leverage that is quite painful." CreationDate="2020-05-28T18:58:16.727" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20329" PostId="9901" Score="1" Text="@SteveWeigand Please write an answer." CreationDate="2020-05-28T21:35:39.120" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20330" PostId="9904" Score="0" Text="Thank you for your answer, I do know, what is stance in general, I just want to remove wide stance from my moves. Problem was present for me from the elder times, at the very beginning - as I liked to counter opponent's moves, thanks for my enough long arms. Problem is that wide stance gives more penalties, than bonuses. And is, in fact, dangerous at some time. So, answer is just practice a lot, controlling the legs?" CreationDate="2020-05-29T06:09:51.923" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20331" PostId="9904" Score="0" Text="Hello User2501323, I wonder if you shift your focus from your legs to your feet, if you will find the solution to your problem. Feet, hips and shoulders are your main concern. Interrupt the pattern, change your game. Your feet determine where your legs go. When you land on your feet, if you're firmly planted, you can throw punches well, but a kick might not be as effective from that planted, weight forward, position. Do you rely on kicks or punches as your main attack? Are you talking about fighting inside the pocket or maintaining distance? And yes, practice a lot, as you already know." CreationDate="2020-05-29T14:35:43.597" UserId="10830" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20332" PostId="9904" Score="0" Text="Practice a lot - is a very good advice, but I expected something more detailed. When you are landed on your feet, or &quot;grounded&quot; in terms of Tai-Chi - yes, it gives you some advantages. But, another time, (at least for me) penalties are MUCH worser. Skilled opponent would not stand in front of you, while you are grounded, trying to hit. He'll step forward. And, as long you are &quot;grounded&quot; - you just can't do the same - because it is impossible in this stance. As far as I see, that point is not specified in question very good, I'll try to improve it." CreationDate="2020-05-29T14:40:43.050" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20333" PostId="9904" Score="0" Text="A skilled opponent might stand in front of you or he might cut an angle and create an opportunity to clock you wherever your guard is down. I suggest that you ask someone to show you (in person)specifically how to adjust your stance to meet the fast and fluid situations that pop up in sparring. It might be something simple that you're missing." CreationDate="2020-05-29T14:45:42.837" UserId="10830" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20334" PostId="9904" Score="0" Text="Question is just about specific training to completely remove wide stance from leg reflexes. At all. That is the point because of what now I'm training with legs binded together with elastic band. I just wonder if there is something more productive." CreationDate="2020-05-29T14:48:13.503" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20335" PostId="9904" Score="0" Text="re-formulated question a bit - to provide more details (and my vision of question and origins of a question itself.)" CreationDate="2020-05-29T15:04:14.323" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20340" PostId="9584" Score="0" Text="By the by, did you ever get a chance to practice against a stationary bag?" CreationDate="2020-05-30T19:05:38.503" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20343" PostId="9909" Score="0" Text="Aren't all the important parts of Judo, throws?" CreationDate="2020-05-31T01:20:29.027" UserId="10787" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20344" PostId="9909" Score="1" Text="Yes, Judo emphasizes stand up clinch and throws. The ground fighting and wrestling aspect is not as prominent. It’s the opposite for BJJ. It really depends on how bad your knees are and in which way they’re bad, though. If bending at all is out of the question, that eliminates these styles. I think a quick look at YouTube would be all the original poster needs to see if he could do it. He’ll also know after the first class or two." CreationDate="2020-05-31T01:27:06.383" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20345" PostId="9883" Score="0" Text="@huw-evans — my experience is that every practitioner of Taijiquan emphasizes whatever is their particular affinity or strength in martial arts. I’ve definitely seen people using Taijiquan as a grappling art, but I’ve also seen others who are much better at interpreting Taijiquan as a striking art. Or ones that are excellent at weapons training. In the end, Taijiquan, if practiced properly, is a more or less well rounded art that has elements of all three major distances—striking/kicking, grappling and yes, even some ground fighting in it. It’s all in what and how you train." CreationDate="2020-05-31T07:45:52.717" UserId="424" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20346" PostId="9883" Score="0" Text="@Roland-Tepp There are weapon forms in taichi.  But I have yet to see any good interpretation as a striking art.  The short form in particular is wrong for this.  Even the hand shapes are wrong for strikes.  It's all pushes, sweeps and joint locks." CreationDate="2020-05-31T12:48:17.880" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20348" PostId="9902" Score="1" Text="FWIW, the department he works for disavows that it's part of their training (which of course they would deny)." CreationDate="2020-05-31T17:29:02.480" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20349" PostId="9909" Score="0" Text="The querent indicates that they're fine with kicks in general, just not jumping, kneeling, or doing deep bends." CreationDate="2020-05-31T17:30:03.847" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20351" PostId="9909" Score="0" Text="Yeah, I’m definitely trying to minimize kicking in my response, not necessarily eliminate them completely. They should be low and not snappy. Classical jujitsu doesn’t snap kicks and keeps them low, but it does do kneeling and low stances." CreationDate="2020-05-31T17:44:38.743" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20353" PostId="9900" Score="0" Text="I hope you saw my edit to my answer; please consider not using bands." CreationDate="2020-05-31T21:01:01.330" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20354" PostId="9900" Score="0" Text="@RoundHouse, yes, I saw it, thank you!" CreationDate="2020-06-01T06:02:11.540" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20355" PostId="9910" Score="1" Text="I know it's being a bit picky, but could you revise your question to specifically ask what needs to be done (or avoided) to make a successful online class? As it is, the phrasing of this feels like you're asking for opinions." CreationDate="2020-06-01T12:21:00.677" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20356" PostId="9912" Score="0" Text="I am not sure I agree that China is still *intentionally* reducing the effectiveness of its martial arts. Sure, it's policies may be reducing their effectiveness, but I think the present-day nationalists would be perfectly happy to have Chinese martial arts defeat the foreigners and foreign influences. Their trouble is prior generations' policies have wiped out generations of practitioners, and so they resort to propaganda. In the age of guns, martial arts are not as important for retaining power." CreationDate="2020-06-01T15:19:33.430" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20357" PostId="9910" Score="0" Text="@MacacoBranco Sure" CreationDate="2020-06-01T15:36:40.037" UserId="1965" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20358" PostId="9910" Score="1" Text="I think this edit makes the opinion problem worse. Now the question is basically about technology tool recommendations, which change quickly relative to martial arts. Anyone can come and leave spam for their video tools and it would be a valid answer." CreationDate="2020-06-01T15:54:25.837" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20359" PostId="9910" Score="1" Text="This question is fixable. It could be about running a class synchronously or asynchronously. It could be about what video features are necessary to run a class online. But the current state is too open-ended (what are other people's experiences)." CreationDate="2020-06-01T16:00:50.233" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20360" PostId="9912" Score="0" Text="@mattm: I'll admit that it's very difficult to tell whether it's intentional or not, although I can't help but feel thrust of multiple decades of practice seem to point to a fair amount of intent." CreationDate="2020-06-01T16:01:00.870" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20361" PostId="9910" Score="0" Text="@mattm in the past asking about other people's experience wasn't ever considered grounds for closure. I think that this question could easily be edited a little more to make it pass over the line. I actually think that it shouldn't have been closed at all because the OP edited it and removed pretty much all of the problems that would make it necessary to close." CreationDate="2020-06-01T19:57:19.540" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20362" PostId="9910" Score="0" Text="That's my thought too. I don't know about specific violations of the norms but this is a problem that a lot of martial arts teachers are facing these days and this is the ideal site to answer it." CreationDate="2020-06-02T08:43:05.870" UserId="1965" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20363" PostId="9910" Score="1" Text="As I see it, there are currently at least three parts to this question. 1. How do you transfer video files? 2. What video conferencing tool do you use? 3. How do you run an online class? First, these should be separate questions already. The tool you use to transfer video files has no direct relation on video conferencing. Second, there is no direct relation of 1 and 2 to martial arts. How are your concerns different from looking for a standard technology tool? Third, technology recommendations are notoriously short-lived. Pricing and features change quickly. Zoom, for example, just changed..." CreationDate="2020-06-02T12:10:07.197" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20364" PostId="9910" Score="1" Text="their security features again this week. The way to ask a more durable question would be to ask about features. A better question could be, &quot;What features does a video conferencing tool need to run an online martial arts class?&quot;. The answers to that question will be more useful to future users than knowing what video conferencing tools happened to exist when you asked the question." CreationDate="2020-06-02T12:14:56.810" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20365" PostId="9910" Score="1" Text="There are so many questions you can ask about this topic. How do I stage a martial arts class so I do not need to frequently move the camera? How can a martial arts instructor provide feedback to individuals in a large class using video conferencing tools? You need to narrow the scope of your question from asking about simply how people run online classes." CreationDate="2020-06-02T12:24:45.863" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20366" PostId="9886" Score="0" Text="Why not use a bob? You can then work on your accuracy as well as power on the neck." CreationDate="2020-06-03T07:55:02.720" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20367" PostId="9886" Score="0" Text="@RoundHouse what do you mean by that? Can you provide an image link?" CreationDate="2020-06-03T14:07:36.827" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20370" PostId="9886" Score="0" Text="[Bob](https://www.google.com/search?q=bob+standing+bag&amp;rlz=1C1CHBD_enCA896CA896&amp;sxsrf=ALeKk02-xqAXBMBICCFGwXQQfBsDllbsUw:1591208565466&amp;source=lnms&amp;tbm=isch&amp;sa=X&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjri7vqoebpAhWeGDQIHTQTBboQ_AUoAnoECA0QBA&amp;biw=1745&amp;bih=881#imgrc=KK-1AgaUXgTEPM) is made up of hard rubber mostly. You can practice hitting specific sports like the nose, chin, and the neck." CreationDate="2020-06-03T18:28:46.697" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20371" PostId="9886" Score="0" Text="Also see the one by [RDX](https://www.google.com/search?q=bob+standing+bag&amp;rlz=1C1CHBD_enCA896CA896&amp;sxsrf=ALeKk02-xqAXBMBICCFGwXQQfBsDllbsUw:1591208565466&amp;source=lnms&amp;tbm=isch&amp;sa=X&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjri7vqoebpAhWeGDQIHTQTBboQ_AUoAnoECA0QBA&amp;biw=1745&amp;bih=881#imgrc=1X-qrs-CGEipGM). A friend of mine bought a Bob and attached noodles (those long foamy things) to it as its hands. So he can go under the fake hands and work on body shots; he can bob and weave too. When he kicks the neck, he trains bringing his kick over the noodles to replicated how in real sparring we have our hands up covering our chin." CreationDate="2020-06-03T18:28:51.480" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20372" PostId="9910" Score="0" Text="@mattm Okay. Shall I edit this question to do that or should I ask a separate one?" CreationDate="2020-06-04T05:03:32.837" UserId="1965" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20373" PostId="8569" Score="0" Text="mattm wrote: &quot;This is precisely what schoolchildren do at judo.&quot; In this country young children are not taught chokes and only a few handles. And it is not allowed in contests. With age more and more techniques are taught and allowed in contests. So the parents or kids aren't scared off and the trainers have a safer job." CreationDate="2020-06-04T08:20:12.273" UserId="10685" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20374" PostId="9902" Score="1" Text="And, uh... what was that other thing it caused?  Hmmm, can't quite put my finger on it. Oh yeah, a dead guy or something like that." CreationDate="2020-06-04T12:27:54.880" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20375" PostId="9910" Score="0" Text="If there were no answer already, I would recommend editing this one. But as there is an answer already and your question should really be multiple questions, I think you should just ask new questions." CreationDate="2020-06-04T13:46:20.977" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20376" PostId="9902" Score="0" Text="@AmorphousBlob Yes, of course." CreationDate="2020-06-04T14:32:11.917" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20377" PostId="9883" Score="0" Text="@huw-evans I know next to nothing of, what we call &quot;public yang style taiji&quot;. I have been studying a much less known branch of the Yang family taijiquan (we call it &quot;Michuan&quot; for short). But what you are describing is a common misconseption.&#xA;The hand form is actually pretty adequate for striking, emphasizing palm strikes over closed fists. In any case, choosing the shape of your hand when striking is mostly a matter of choice and suitebility. When trained properly, palm strikes can be just as efffective as fists and in some ways much safer for the striker when hitting harder surfaces." CreationDate="2020-06-05T07:50:48.263" UserId="424" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20378" PostId="9883" Score="0" Text="@RolandTepp The style has pushes but not actual strikes.  Yes you can strike with an open fist, but that's not what is going on when you look at the form. Take this moment in this video for example: https://youtu.be/SBIZciSHPgA?t=98 Neither hand is in a striking or blocking position.  right hand is holding something (opponent's hand) the other is pushing the opponent to complete a take down.  Lets take this to chat." CreationDate="2020-06-05T10:47:03.400" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20379" PostId="9916" Score="2" Text="How functional of training are you looking for? And are you asking about styles or ways of training without a teacher? There are a ton of videos out there, ranging from VHS to DVD to streaming. Alternately, if you're not worried about following a particular lineage of martial arts, or having something functional, there is always the option of just watching swordwork that you like, and replicating it." CreationDate="2020-06-05T13:41:43.597" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20380" PostId="9916" Score="2" Text="I'll just say have a look at my answer at the following link. It describes a general formula for distance learning on your own. While it was for grappling, the same concepts apply to anything...&#xA;https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/4315/learning-grappling-without-an-instructor/4317#4317" CreationDate="2020-06-05T20:42:07.190" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20384" PostId="9639" Score="0" Text="True, but this is not really addressing the question." CreationDate="2020-06-07T14:49:56.227" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20387" PostId="9920" Score="0" Text="Here is a [related question with different flexibility situation](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/2577/5961)." CreationDate="2020-06-08T13:18:35.510" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20388" PostId="9920" Score="9" Text="14 is right on time! So is 20. So is 30. So is ... :)" CreationDate="2020-06-08T14:01:12.223" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20389" PostId="9920" Score="0" Text="I think i had a go when I was 12, it was good fun, did 2-3 lessons, it was hard work. didn;t live close enough to go every week." CreationDate="2020-06-08T20:13:54.313" UserId="7826" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20390" PostId="9920" Score="1" Text="A senegalese buddy in my year started at about 12-14, he could kick a basket ball hoop when he was about 16." CreationDate="2020-06-09T01:20:36.230" UserId="7826" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20391" PostId="9920" Score="3" Text="I started with 42. Never too late." CreationDate="2020-06-09T04:39:46.620" UserId="10873" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20393" PostId="9929" Score="0" Text="Waist is high enough the for most common self defense ;-)." CreationDate="2020-06-09T07:01:00.423" UserId="10874" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20394" PostId="9920" Score="0" Text="Absolutely. It's fine to start a sport at any age" CreationDate="2020-06-09T14:03:12.923" UserId="644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20395" PostId="9920" Score="0" Text="@Kevin Taekwondo at 6 is a bit early I think, but sure :-)" CreationDate="2020-06-09T17:46:57.397" UserId="10080" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20396" PostId="9920" Score="0" Text="@Mast 6 years old is plenty old enough" CreationDate="2020-06-09T17:53:44.550" UserId="644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20398" PostId="9922" Score="0" Text="Upvoted. I started at 21. I'll note that at 14, OP is likely to start with the &quot;adult beginner&quot; classes rather than the kids' classes." CreationDate="2020-06-10T03:19:31.080" UserId="8052" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20399" PostId="38" Score="0" Text="I think the misconception is that...ppl believe martial arts is all about armed and unarmed combat, between 2 or multiple individuals. But really martial arts is much more than just combat. It's an art of war and I guess ninjutsu most definitely falls into that category, cuz a lot of its idea does correlate to the idea of warfare. Heck even, the things that go on in military and modern warfare is too martial arts. Clothing, feeding, moving, strategize, training the soldiers are all part of the art of war. Hence martial arts. Cuz martial literally means relating to fighting or war." CreationDate="2020-06-10T08:58:56.230" UserId="10707" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20401" PostId="9920" Score="0" Text="Of course! My son earned his black belt (the junior kind) when he was 12." CreationDate="2020-06-09T01:04:55.080" UserId="10871" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20402" PostId="9922" Score="0" Text="Yes, very possibly; my master does that around that age, depending on the maturity and size of the student.  (Thanks for the upvote, woot!)" CreationDate="2020-06-10T12:18:54.030" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20404" PostId="9930" Score="0" Text="Oof, a year ago we had an influx of 4 year olds - almost killed me and the other more-than-occasional assistant instructor. And a 3 year old! Who listens and does what you ask like a 3-year-old!!!  AAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!" CreationDate="2020-06-10T12:20:42.480" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20405" PostId="9921" Score="0" Text="Taekwondo is not Japanese, so saying &quot;Taekwondo sensei&quot; is is very cringe worthy." CreationDate="2020-06-10T13:07:25.460" UserId="10882" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20406" PostId="9921" Score="0" Text="@Davor, I know it, would change now. Just thought about a word equivalent, but not found such." CreationDate="2020-06-10T13:23:16.383" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20407" PostId="9921" Score="0" Text="@Davor, edited, and mean is the same, but spirit is a bit another, I think. If you know some analogue, or something better than 'master' in that context, please, feel free to edit!" CreationDate="2020-06-10T13:24:24.613" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20408" PostId="9846" Score="0" Text="IME, the action of the supporting leg is so important in executing a kick it's not unusual for the kick to be better when standing on the &quot;strong&quot; foot.  You might think the right kick is more powerful - but how are you measuring it?  Noise on the bag?  Just &quot;feeling&quot; better?" CreationDate="2020-06-10T14:30:49.960" UserId="8536" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20411" PostId="9936" Score="0" Text="What area is this?  I'm not sure that this is a global phenomenon." CreationDate="2020-06-10T16:55:08.333" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20412" PostId="9936" Score="0" Text="@HuwEvans I edited the question" CreationDate="2020-06-10T16:56:02.410" UserId="10814" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20413" PostId="9936" Score="3" Text="Are you perhaps mistaking kickboxing with &quot;cardio kickboxing&quot;? Cardio kickboxing is basically an aerobics class that uses kickboxing techniques. Actual kickboxing involves sparring. No sparring means it's cardio kickboxing. Though, there might be some kickboxing schools that start without any sparring for the first few months or so to work on technique first." CreationDate="2020-06-10T17:30:07.457" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20414" PostId="9936" Score="0" Text="Cardio kickboxing classes are taught in gyms and fitness clubs. Muay Thai kickboxing is generally taught by martial arts teachers. I guess they could use a general fitness classroom in a local gym. I don't know anyone who can speak for women, but I can offer an answer for myself." CreationDate="2020-06-10T23:14:18.017" UserId="10830" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20415" PostId="9920" Score="0" Text="My business partner started TKD at age 24. Today, he's 44 and a 4th-degree black belt. He's the youngest member of his club. It's absolutely never too late." CreationDate="2020-06-11T00:13:08.650" UserId="10885" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20421" PostId="9920" Score="1" Text="&quot;the best people start at the ages under 10&quot; - that's certainly not a *requirement*, it simply means that starting younger gives you the most time to learn and improve (as is true for almost everything in life)." CreationDate="2020-06-11T18:58:47.590" UserId="10890" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20425" PostId="9942" Score="4" Text="Martial arts are littered with theories that often don't prove very realistic. One of the things you'll realize when attacking a wooden dummy that involves rotational components like this is that you don't want to attack to the periphery to add momentum to the rotation. Instead, you'll focus on the center. Which is basically what Wing Chun dummies are supposed to teach. Ultimately I think the only real way to develop reflexes and reactions correctly is to use a live person who does random, untelegraphed things to you. Ie, sparring. Then you'll know you're doing something useful." CreationDate="2020-06-12T18:01:46.960" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20427" PostId="7752" Score="1" Text="I realize this is an old thread but as a writer, I appreciate that this thread exists. I was researching whether pressure points as discussed above were real or fictional." CreationDate="2020-06-12T22:53:21.553" UserId="10894" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20428" PostId="7752" Score="0" Text="@Melissa_Cesark Maybe open a question asking for styles that teach these well if you are interested?  There are some that will even let you do them once in a while." CreationDate="2020-06-13T10:29:52.187" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20429" PostId="7752" Score="0" Text="@TheBatman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcaOr1TBA1w" CreationDate="2020-06-13T10:29:55.707" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20430" PostId="9883" Score="0" Text="Don’t put too much faith into what you see in a specific form performance. Those movements might have been interpreted much differently if performed with a different intent. See the following form for a counter example: https://youtu.be/MR2Ofnt-k_k" CreationDate="2020-06-14T12:02:01.313" UserId="424" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20431" PostId="7752" Score="0" Text="@HuwEvans fake as hell. How gullible are you?" CreationDate="2020-06-14T15:21:51.997" UserId="10675" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20432" PostId="7752" Score="0" Text="@TheBatman Let's take this to chat shall we?  If you want proof I'll tell you where to find Stomach 9 (mentioned in the answer below)  Then you can literally knock yourself out.  (please film it, I could do with a laugh)." CreationDate="2020-06-14T16:50:34.180" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20433" PostId="9946" Score="0" Text="Skeleton of an answer: everything in [this answer](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/1753/347) (identical except for the dimension of already having experience) plus a little activity-specific movement practice and skill review." CreationDate="2020-06-14T18:55:15.810" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20434" PostId="9933" Score="0" Text="I'm really confused as to what exactly you're recommending here." CreationDate="2020-06-14T19:42:40.113" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20435" PostId="6748" Score="0" Text="&quot;This video has been removed for violating YouTube's Community Guidelines.&quot; :-(" CreationDate="2020-06-15T13:54:02.137" UserId="8387" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20436" PostId="9946" Score="0" Text="It might be a good idea to make this a bit more general by adding tags for a variety of other styles." CreationDate="2020-06-16T02:16:00.820" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20437" PostId="9946" Score="0" Text="@RoundHouse I tried to make it as general as I could.  I can't add more than 5 tags and sparring, grappling, wrist-lock and groundwork cover pretty much every unarmed styles.  We could create another question for weapon styles I suppose." CreationDate="2020-06-16T10:48:59.143" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20438" PostId="2359" Score="0" Text="You've got two questions in this, really; the first (main) question about the level of training for your oldest son, the second about a competition performance regime for your youunger kids. Ideally, the second question should be a separate question." CreationDate="2020-06-17T15:26:28.840" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20441" PostId="6126" Score="0" Text="What's the point of holding someone in the sankyo grip like in the video? Sankyo's a tool for unbalancing in order to take someone to the floor, apply an arresting technique, throw them or (in our samurai movie fantasies) draw our knife and slash them. In the video, where there's no unbalancing, nor any goal, it seems like the only purpose of it is to inflict pain (why would you crank the fingers otherwise?)" CreationDate="2020-06-18T12:03:24.403" UserId="10149" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20443" PostId="8652" Score="1" Text="Some of your links are broken I think.  I can't see them (location is in the UK)" CreationDate="2020-06-18T12:45:28.647" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20444" PostId="8653" Score="1" Text="I was about to suggest something similar... I'll still post my own answer because I think I can find some good videos to illustrate it from my own style.  (+1ed)" CreationDate="2020-06-18T12:47:01.620" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20450" PostId="9948" Score="1" Text="The original title question is a duplicate of [Why are some people just not getting knocked out?](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/8291/5961), so I am editing the question to reflect the body." CreationDate="2020-06-18T15:01:32.560" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20451" PostId="9948" Score="2" Text="What does it mean to spin around yourself? Are you asking about spinning with the impact of a punch to try to prevent a knockout?" CreationDate="2020-06-18T15:10:51.160" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20454" PostId="9948" Score="0" Text="I think, that question is about training, meant to be &quot;Can you train so, thath punched on the jaw, not being knocked out easy&quot;. Spinning trainings are enough common in boxing - but I don't know if it really helps." CreationDate="2020-06-18T17:46:22.593" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20456" PostId="9948" Score="1" Text="I got dizzy reading the question." CreationDate="2020-06-18T18:59:37.433" UserId="10830" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20457" PostId="9948" Score="0" Text="@user2501323 Ah, yes, at a higher rating, you get to approve edits. Or, if your rating is high enough, you don't need approval. Lastly, if you are the person who asked the question, you don't need approval, but you need to be logged in as that user. Does that make more sense?" CreationDate="2020-06-18T21:57:45.333" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20458" PostId="8652" Score="0" Text="@HuwEvans Thanks! I guess the video owner took them down for some reason. I will edit the links." CreationDate="2020-06-18T22:22:18.913" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20459" PostId="9948" Score="0" Text="I'm not that person, just my edit was rejected.)" CreationDate="2020-06-19T06:08:32.670" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20460" PostId="9948" Score="0" Text="@user2501323: Ah, yeah, probably because it was adding new information, which is generally discouraged because it might result in you changing their question to another one." CreationDate="2020-06-19T14:16:46.377" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20461" PostId="8652" Score="0" Text="Are you still asking whether it's bad for the back? (And has that improved since you asked the question a year ago?) Or are you moving to asking more for general advice? And is it an option to pursue a trainer who does do this style?" CreationDate="2020-06-20T16:47:58.077" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20462" PostId="8652" Score="1" Text="@MacacoBranco Sorry I didn't mean to get this active again. Huw mentioned that some of my links do not work anymore, so I guess when I updated the links it made the question active again. And, I have been trying this style of boxing for a while and the side to side slipping is really, really hard on the back. I don't have any back issues normally, it's the peekaboo style that causes this fatigue 2 or 3 rounds into shadowboxing. I also can't keep up the same speed in doing the side to side slipping after a round or two; my movements get considerably slower. I have heard from a lot of people ..." CreationDate="2020-06-20T18:04:17.837" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20463" PostId="8652" Score="1" Text="@MacacoBranco ... that the peekaboo style requires one to have an extraordinary level of fitness (think of the 20 year old Mike Tyson) and a naturally gifted physic to be able to withstand that level of rapid side to side slipping. I have taken bits and pieces of it and incorporated them in my game. I can't do it all round long, I try to use it sparingly." CreationDate="2020-06-20T18:04:30.663" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20464" PostId="8652" Score="0" Text="Cool. Do you feel like you've learned enough about this to maybe post your own answer on what you've learned? I'm sure you've found some ways to adapt to the movement that have made it less painful or more effective for you." CreationDate="2020-06-20T18:20:37.783" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20465" PostId="9955" Score="2" Text="No. Hair is too short and soft to act like a whip with any force. Precision would also be a problem. Some martial arts movies add needles and razor blades to hair, but that's just in the movies." CreationDate="2020-06-22T21:30:04.530" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20466" PostId="9955" Score="2" Text="If you have long hair, you can use it to strangle someone, maybe." CreationDate="2020-06-22T22:51:15.487" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20467" PostId="9956" Score="0" Text="Who's grasshopper?" CreationDate="2020-06-23T04:14:49.383" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20469" PostId="9956" Score="1" Text="Kwai Chang Caine from the Kung Fu TV series starring David Carradine. The show was a cultural phenomenon in the 70s. Caine's teacher nicknamed him, Grasshopper." CreationDate="2020-06-23T04:27:50.937" UserId="10830" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20470" PostId="9956" Score="1" Text="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hair_hang It' an old carnie-trick that combines specific braids with the inherent strength of regular human hair." CreationDate="2020-06-23T19:44:10.670" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20471" PostId="9956" Score="0" Text="Yup. Nothing that can be used to actually fight. But fun to see." CreationDate="2020-06-24T01:57:53.227" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20472" PostId="9952" Score="0" Text="Another aspect of rolling with the punches is that it reduces the Power of the punch by both reducing the difference in velocity between fist and target (lowering the acceleration imparted, and thus the Force, from `F=ma` or `F=m(v-u)t^(-1)`) and by increasing the time the Force is applied over (`P=Fxt^(-1)`, where `x` is the distance for which the fist is in contact with the target).  Their fist hitting your stationary face at speed `Z` is going to hurt more than if their fist moves at `2Z` and your face moves away from it at `1.5Z`" CreationDate="2020-06-24T15:53:21.327" UserId="9212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20473" PostId="9952" Score="0" Text="@Chronocidal Your comment includes a valuable explanation. I think you should write an answer and add your comment. I would add your comment in my answer, but I absolutely don't remember my physics from high school." CreationDate="2020-06-24T18:58:26.127" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20474" PostId="9906" Score="1" Text="thanks, your approach seems to be working for me!" CreationDate="2020-06-26T10:35:56.983" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20476" PostId="9958" Score="1" Text="Is your aim to be better at self defence, or are you doing e.g. boxing?  Would you be worried about people kicking you (especially in the groin), or is that socially or otherwise unacceptable where you live, such that you can ignore that consideration?" CreationDate="2020-06-27T11:51:22.833" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20477" PostId="9958" Score="0" Text="If you want to become swift, then run? You have not provided much information to work with here." CreationDate="2020-06-27T14:50:34.947" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20478" PostId="9959" Score="0" Text="How do I never get experts such as yourself to answer any of my questions?" CreationDate="2020-06-27T19:43:06.200" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20479" PostId="9958" Score="0" Text="Can you at least tell us what art you practice?" CreationDate="2020-06-27T19:47:17.707" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20481" PostId="9959" Score="1" Text="@RoundHouse Haha. Don't call me an expert! I'm not. I just have a good amount of experience in a lot of things. But thanks for the compliment! I'll keep my eyes open in the future for your questions." CreationDate="2020-06-27T20:12:19.337" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20484" PostId="9960" Score="0" Text="&quot;no knees, no body shots, no strikes to the head...I never use teeps&quot; This leaves so little that I don't think you're accurately describing what you do. In fact you say later that you do throw these strikes, just with less power." CreationDate="2020-06-29T12:20:31.793" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20486" PostId="9960" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Not sure where you saw I wrote I throw these strikes. I don't use knees and body shots (= hooks and crosses to the body). And when I say &quot;strikes to the head&quot; I mean proper jabs, crosses, overhand rights, and left hooks. Later I said that I tap (= left hand out extended and just keeping them busy by tapping their guard or forehead) them in the head which really isn't a &quot;jab&quot;." CreationDate="2020-06-29T12:51:22.040" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20487" PostId="9960" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann *&quot;This leaves so little&quot;* I know. The only things that are left are these: outside and inside leg kicks (which I throw with decent power), clinch and trip/throw (which I do all the time - so they go down on the mat just like any male would), and roundhouse to the body very, very lightly." CreationDate="2020-06-29T12:52:27.347" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20488" PostId="9960" Score="0" Text="Just from my experience, I say that you're overanalyzing. What is the big deal if she (or a guy) says it's ok to go harder? You're not disrespecting them - quite the contrary. Or, just ask before you start the round, for example, &quot;Medium contact ok?&quot;." CreationDate="2020-06-29T18:01:48.450" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20489" PostId="9960" Score="2" Text="Have you developed any practices at all for sparring with others (of any sex) who are weaker/less experienced/less powerful than you?" CreationDate="2020-06-29T18:22:09.207" UserId="10922" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20490" PostId="9960" Score="0" Text="@LeeMosher Yes, I have." CreationDate="2020-06-29T18:23:53.473" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20491" PostId="9960" Score="3" Text="Is there any particular reason that those practices are not adequate when sparring with with women? (I do see you mention one such reason, regarding hits on the stomach, but that seems a minor part of your question.)" CreationDate="2020-06-29T18:26:57.937" UserId="10922" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20492" PostId="9960" Score="0" Text="@AmorphousBlob Yeah, I do ask them - and adjust my kicks based on that. But it is mostly punching that I completely avoid using. I don't want to be the guy who &quot;broke a girl's nose&quot; (even if it's an accident)." CreationDate="2020-06-29T18:27:09.927" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20493" PostId="9965" Score="0" Text="I think I pretty much do what Sanchai is doing in that video. I don't see him throwing jabs, crosses, or hooks to her face that actually connect (but yes, that is because they don't have gloves on). He doesn't throw knees either. He is throwing leg kicks and then clinching and throwing/tripping her down (gently) - which is exactly what I do (but I don't throw/trip them down *that* gently), and I mentioned this in my question. *&quot; ... or using any of your striking tools&quot;* - I *am* throwing leg kicks (and putting some power behind them)." CreationDate="2020-06-29T18:36:02.933" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20494" PostId="9965" Score="0" Text="*&quot;What you're describing is not technical. It is not sparring&quot;* - I don't know why you think this isn't sparring or technical. Sure, may be I am being a bad sparring partner for not using *all* the strikes, but I *am* throwing leg kicks with some power, and I am clinching and throwing them down like I would with a male partner. My female partners are usually appreciative because they get to learn clinch footwork and throw downs. There is no risk of a major injury when you throw them down on a mat. There is some risk from throwing a cross and breaking their nose accidentally." CreationDate="2020-06-29T18:39:31.457" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20495" PostId="9965" Score="0" Text="But I get it, I should make the session effective for both of us. Just in case it is not clear from my question, I hold back fully on certain strikes (mostly punches, teeps, and knees), while I throw other strikes (inside/outside leg kicks) and use other moves (clinch throws) at a decent enough power to replicate the level they would encounter in the ring. *&quot;Did you go impotent and sterile after getting kicked in the balls?&quot;* I think you missed the part where I wrote &quot;repeated hits&quot;. Getting hit on the balls once or twice is fine; but on a regular basis and repeatedly - that's dangerous." CreationDate="2020-06-29T18:43:38.617" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20496" PostId="9960" Score="0" Text="@LeeMosher It depends. A less experienced male (in the art) can still be someone who lifts weight - that is they can be physically strong. Let's say I am sparring with a 22 y/o guy who is inexperienced. It is his first month. I can confidently throw a 30% jab knowing he will be alright even if I hit flush. My punch won't break his nose. Now if I am sparring with a female partner who has some experience (say 2 years) and I throw a 40% jab - it can still hit her hard enough to give her a bloody nose (especially if she is lighter than me)." CreationDate="2020-06-29T19:02:49.590" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20497" PostId="9960" Score="0" Text="@LeeMosher And when I do spar with men who are weaker than me (but have some experience), I will almost always kick their legs at 70% power, but refrain from punching too hard. I also kick my female partners on their leg with the same intensity. But clearly, my approach to this whole thing is a bit wrong, which I realize. And hence the question. But your comment gives me something to think about and somewhere to start." CreationDate="2020-06-29T19:03:01.570" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20498" PostId="9965" Score="0" Text="I like what you wrote in your first paragraph. Thanks!" CreationDate="2020-06-29T19:37:51.387" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20499" PostId="9963" Score="1" Text="Thanks for the great answer! And just to be clear, I enjoy sparring with female partners. Some days, I really just want to spar with women. This is because when I spar with them, I can be loose and relaxed. I can focus on my technical fighting, on my defense, and on my combos and new moves. At least in my gym, the women are masters of technical fighting. I can't count the number of times they have kicked me in the head with some wicked move. I remember getting my butt kicked by two girls because they had excellent technique and timing. One of them taught me the &quot;snake kick&quot;." CreationDate="2020-06-29T20:02:23.280" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20500" PostId="9963" Score="1" Text="Also, when I spar with women, I don't have to be on my mental guard like I do when I fight another man at the same level. Even if we (me and the other guy) start lightly and with an understanding to go slow, things eventually escalate (unless they are a friend). When I am sparring with men, I am always *thinking* about winning; that is mentally exhaustive. I am always concerned that they don't get to land a big shot and get away with it; that I return most if not every strike. Sometimes, I don't want to be that exhausted. And I just want to focus on my technique and have some fun." CreationDate="2020-06-29T20:07:35.807" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20501" PostId="9960" Score="0" Text="&quot;Be gentle, and always pull back your strikes.&quot; I think this depends on the type of training you're doing. If both of you are competitive, don't pull any punches." CreationDate="2020-06-30T06:25:02.590" UserId="10080" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20502" PostId="9967" Score="0" Text="Hi, what do you believe that this answer adds which has not already been covered in the existing 10 answers?" CreationDate="2020-07-01T10:11:52.190" UserId="9212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20503" PostId="9969" Score="1" Text="I don't know the historical reason these exercises fell into disuse, but I know I started judo to get away from *exactly* this kind of low-return-on-investment drills. People who want to punch air instead of wrestle or box can find a light-contact karate dojo. Even then, these are an especially unrewarding example of the genre of forms practice. I mean, a double upward punch is one of the more useful movements. It's fundamentally not effective training; maybe it fell out of favor because people who wanted to get good noticed that?" CreationDate="2020-07-01T16:25:31.500" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20505" PostId="9970" Score="3" Text="I wonder if the boy was doing TKD at home over video when his mom decided to take him shopping? Most TKD schools are closed in the U.S. and probably much of the world right now." CreationDate="2020-07-01T18:34:31.973" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20506" PostId="9970" Score="1" Text="Oh, and it's also possible the boy is doing TKD at home with his parents, siblings, or close friends through the lockdown." CreationDate="2020-07-01T18:45:24.213" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20507" PostId="9970" Score="0" Text="And it's also possible, his mother didn't want to do extra laundry, so why bother changing out of your sweaty martial arts uniform before you go shopping. They were wearing masks, in case you're wondering." CreationDate="2020-07-01T19:29:06.557" UserId="10830" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20508" PostId="9970" Score="1" Text="And thank you, Steve, for framing the world in such a nice, safe, family-centered way." CreationDate="2020-07-01T19:30:09.230" UserId="10830" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20509" PostId="9970" Score="0" Text="Hi Macaco, I think target shooting is martial, but not a martial art." CreationDate="2020-07-01T19:31:07.123" UserId="10830" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20510" PostId="9970" Score="0" Text="By the way, Macaco, who is Pat?" CreationDate="2020-07-01T19:31:25.683" UserId="10830" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20511" PostId="9970" Score="0" Text="How about naginata?" CreationDate="2020-07-01T20:56:41.673" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20512" PostId="9970" Score="0" Text="@thatgirlisfunny It's a matter of some dispute as to how guns fit into martial arts. I have friends who actively train for competitions involving things like shooting while diving for cover, or other physical challenges. As regards &quot;pat&quot;, I was using the adjectival form, the meaning of which can range from &quot;apt&quot; to &quot;contrived&quot; depending on context." CreationDate="2020-07-01T21:21:30.613" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20513" PostId="9969" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Sure, they appear low-quality. But I am curious why only one kata was and dropped rather than revised and improved. Did judo decide at some point that training should be exclusively partner-based?" CreationDate="2020-07-01T23:07:11.250" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20514" PostId="9970" Score="0" Text="@Huw Thanks, I'll google naginata." CreationDate="2020-07-01T23:25:50.953" UserId="10830" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20515" PostId="9969" Score="0" Text="Not relevant to your Q, but that motion of punching is often used as a modification of the spinning back-fist. Instead of hitting with the back side of the glove (which has cushion and creates a *spat* like impact), some use the edge of the glove (which is much harder and has no cushion). This actually digs into the face, which is more painful." CreationDate="2020-07-02T03:03:30.007" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20516" PostId="9972" Score="0" Text="An excellent addition. Thank you!" CreationDate="2020-07-02T04:26:11.130" UserId="7701" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20517" PostId="9969" Score="1" Text="@mattm My assumption has always been that the decision was to focus on grappling training, which left striking unpracticed. Combine that with the loss of physical cultures of individual jiujitsu ryu during unification into judo, and then follow it with modernization of strength and conditioning practices during the 20th century, and you get a total lack of interest in punching/knife-hand exercises that only had value as a traditional &amp; inferior form of physical exercise." CreationDate="2020-07-02T08:52:20.150" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20518" PostId="9969" Score="0" Text="For more on the physical culture side of that history, see [Ishikawa &amp; Draeger](https://davetrains.tumblr.com/post/13223950681/ishikawa-draeger-judo-training-methods)" CreationDate="2020-07-02T08:53:08.203" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20519" PostId="9973" Score="0" Text="Thanks, Roundhouse. This answer is really helpful. Gyms are allowed to open with full capacity where I live, even though our Covid cases are rapidly increasing. I would definitely wear a mask, if I trained at a local school. But, I worry about two things. Masks slip off and people are barefoot on the mats. Mats aren't cleaned between classes. I guess I'm just not ready to return yet. So, home gym for me. The foam noodle workout looks fun!" CreationDate="2020-07-02T13:41:36.497" UserId="10830" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20520" PostId="9971" Score="0" Text="Hi Dave, I agree with you about the home gym. At least that's something I have control over." CreationDate="2020-07-02T13:52:45.267" UserId="10830" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20521" PostId="9973" Score="1" Text="You are right, if you think that somehow your gym may be compromised, it is better to not go for now. This is something I have noticed in Martial Arts gyms - they don't seem to put in much effort in cleaning the floors/mats between sessions. In contrast, my local weight-room gyms always clean the working pods whenever someone finishes working out (this is in addition to the member cleaning that area themself). But one BJJ training center in my region have 30 min gaps between the classes, and some students will stay back and clean the mats. Sadly, they don't do this in my gym." CreationDate="2020-07-02T16:20:10.720" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20522" PostId="9974" Score="1" Text="Welcome to the site. Unfortunately, there are multiple problems with this answer. First, the video you have linked for taiji (tai chi) is not taiji but a form of qi gong. While taiji has qi gong, this qi gong is not taiji. Second, taiji is definitely not what I would call gymnastic. Third, taiji can defiitely be contact." CreationDate="2020-07-03T03:18:30.273" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20523" PostId="9974" Score="0" Text="Thanks. You’re right I don’t know much about either sport. Comparing taiji to gymnastics is likely comparing fencing with tennis, same moves different purpose. Qigong looks nice, something new I learn." CreationDate="2020-07-03T04:24:42.580" UserId="10934" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20524" PostId="9975" Score="2" Text="Reading through your answer helped me to give up my &quot;waiting to go back&quot; position and shift over to &quot;deciding to stay home&quot;. I haven't organized my at-home workouts to be effective. But I might as well get on with it because with cases increasing, Covid is winning. Time to accept defeat (no partner training) and adapt to the new normal. After four months of restrictions, I'm feeling very sad about the need for social distancing." CreationDate="2020-07-03T15:16:55.890" UserId="10830" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20525" PostId="9974" Score="1" Text="Honestly, doing a Capoeira *roda* is probably a bad idea too. There's still a lot of close contact (and people will make contact in some fights, depending on the school's philosophy), not to mention that the singing is a major part of the style, and we all know how far singing projects spittle. It is one that's not bad to practice solo, of course." CreationDate="2020-07-03T17:33:19.180" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20526" PostId="9969" Score="0" Text="It's possible that his relationship with the high level karate instructors led to him deciding to specialise... But that is just my speculation." CreationDate="2020-07-03T17:50:56.610" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20527" PostId="9975" Score="1" Text="@thatgirlisfunny If you have kids at home, or just family members, have them throw tennis balls at you while you stand in front of a wall and dodge them with slips and ducks and footwork. This is what I have been doing for the last 3 days with my roommate. But he is charging me $5 per 30 min." CreationDate="2020-07-03T18:46:45.947" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20528" PostId="9974" Score="0" Text="Thanks. I know what you mean about spittle, I remember having competitions about it growing up. Capoeira is unlike any other sports I've seen so I've assumed its technique was more Art than Martial, but the dancing part may be like a warm up." CreationDate="2020-07-03T23:32:50.547" UserId="10934" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20529" PostId="9975" Score="0" Text="Lol! That could get out of hand pretty quickly. Your roommate is smart. Get that beer money!" CreationDate="2020-07-04T01:03:23.070" UserId="10830" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20530" PostId="9978" Score="0" Text="Similar: https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/40/is-practising-techniques-on-both-the-left-and-right-sides-beneficial-or-detrimen/9628#9628" CreationDate="2020-07-05T15:10:22.123" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20531" PostId="9979" Score="1" Text="Yeah, as Tony's answer mentioned, if they got up and seemed fine, then they were fine. There's no long-term damage you have to worry about. If you managed to really damage someone's liver, they would be heading to the hospital. They wouldn't even be able to move. Most of the long-term damage you should worry about in martial arts practice is damage to the brain. But that's a different subject." CreationDate="2020-07-05T21:46:11.427" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20532" PostId="9980" Score="1" Text="Thank you for your time. You answered my question and help me a lot." CreationDate="2020-07-06T04:01:26.687" UserId="10939" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20533" PostId="9979" Score="1" Text="Thank you for your comment. You helped so much" CreationDate="2020-07-06T04:03:43.177" UserId="10939" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20534" PostId="9980" Score="0" Text="If the victim had unusually thick blood, couldn't a blow like this cause a blood clot that might later dislodge and cause a heart attack or stroke?" CreationDate="2020-07-06T10:37:10.680" UserId="10372" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20535" PostId="9980" Score="1" Text="@nick012000: I'm not a doctor, so I can't speculate on how likely that is - but of course if you reframe the question in terms of _&quot;if they were just about to die, could this be the straw that broke the camel's back&quot;_ then the answer is generally yes, however minor the &quot;straw&quot; is.  That said, these people were martial artists fit enough to want to fight in a tournament; the one who was &quot;knocked down&quot; was apparently a black belt in karate - his usual training probably kept him in reasonable health...." CreationDate="2020-07-06T13:09:27.627" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20536" PostId="9984" Score="0" Text="I imagine this question should be answerable by a non-Shoriji-Kempo practitioner if you also provide translations." CreationDate="2020-07-06T16:23:43.733" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20537" PostId="9984" Score="0" Text="The translations don't really mean anything. They are just technique names. I guess I could find videos of them." CreationDate="2020-07-06T16:29:48.273" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20538" PostId="9984" Score="0" Text="Gyaku zuki = reverse punch?" CreationDate="2020-07-06T16:30:45.003" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20539" PostId="9984" Score="0" Text="Back hand punch.  But yes reverse punch is the literal translation." CreationDate="2020-07-06T16:32:10.520" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20540" PostId="9986" Score="2" Text="You would have to know what points the other person believes to be effective to be able to use them, and how they expect them to be effective." CreationDate="2020-07-06T17:27:25.953" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20541" PostId="9986" Score="0" Text="You probably want to read my answer here: https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/7752/how-do-you-knock-someone-out-using-pressure-points/7754#7754" CreationDate="2020-07-06T20:25:09.523" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20542" PostId="9984" Score="0" Text="The point I was trying to make was that the translations of the names would be helpful. I know what a back hand punch is, but I don't know what a gyaku zuki is. This contrasts with translations like &quot;monkey stealing peaches&quot;, where the translation is truly just a name." CreationDate="2020-07-06T22:45:29.847" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20543" PostId="9984" Score="0" Text="I understand that, unfortunately translation literal or otherwise are not always possible. These techniques are not descriptive. It is similar to trying to translate seotoshi from judo. You can translate the names but not the meaning." CreationDate="2020-07-06T22:50:15.820" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20544" PostId="9984" Score="0" Text="Soto oshi uke for example is something like outwards pushing receive." CreationDate="2020-07-06T22:53:54.803" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20545" PostId="9984" Score="0" Text="I've only studied kyokushin, and not come across some of the terminology you use (e.g. shito-zuki - take a look at google to see how obscure that is).  I also think uwa-uke is a terrible defence against punches: if the opponent throws gyaku-zuki at your front floating rib and you're trying to get your arm under his arm to raise it past your shoulder and head, I can't see it working too well.  A sideways deflection is massively more efficient and makes you less vulnerable.  But maybe because I think it's a poor technique, I haven't drilled it enough to see what merits it can have (?)." CreationDate="2020-07-06T23:23:20.420" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20546" PostId="9984" Score="0" Text="I will say though that if I understand your yin version of soto oshi uke, the key characteristic is reaching out earlier to deflect and having the hand pull back with the attack, which can be used to control and destabalise.  That approach is definitely viable in an upward block: just reach further earlier then guide the attacker for longer.  If they're delivering a downward strike it's easy to pull them off to the side and their weight onto the front foot.  For a punch, the same principle applies: reach forward, grasp near the elbow, deflect sideways and pull the elbow down into your control." CreationDate="2020-07-06T23:26:03.620" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20548" PostId="8592" Score="0" Text="For those of us who are new to the conversation about HEMA, maybe you could explain what wiktenauer is and why it's good for researching questions like the one asked. Apparently, this reference material isn't known to the person who asked the question." CreationDate="2020-07-07T02:05:53.500" UserId="10830" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20549" PostId="9984" Score="1" Text="I do not understand the seotoshi (shoulder drop) comparison; that is a straightforward description of the throw in non-flowery language. Yama arashi (mountain storm) is an example of a technique where the translation does not help. Which category are we in?" CreationDate="2020-07-07T03:09:12.243" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20554" PostId="9984" Score="0" Text="@mattm You don't drop your own shoulder when you perform seotoshi.  And if you asked a japanese person who knew nothing of judo to seotoshi they would look at you blankly.  These are not descriptive at all.  They may give clues to the trained but I could translate the entirety of this and you still be none the wiser." CreationDate="2020-07-07T08:42:33.553" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20555" PostId="9984" Score="0" Text="@Tony D.  We never use Uwa-Uke against anything other than attacks to the head and neck.  These are common enough and the technique is good for this." CreationDate="2020-07-07T08:43:33.980" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20556" PostId="9984" Score="0" Text="@TonyD You don't reach out any earlier and if you grab we have a different name for the block.  The yin version is simply the same block with the direction of forced changed.  It's not easy to do.  Also you don't grasp the elbow, you have to block the wrist in every case." CreationDate="2020-07-07T08:46:39.550" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20558" PostId="9997" Score="0" Text="This is specifically a situation where the takedown makes getting on top difficult." CreationDate="2020-07-07T13:38:57.713" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20559" PostId="9997" Score="0" Text="True, you could try a leg lock more naturally I suppose." CreationDate="2020-07-07T14:03:03.917" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20560" PostId="9997" Score="0" Text="I also doubt the existence of a viable version of this that starts prone." CreationDate="2020-07-07T14:34:23.557" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20561" PostId="9997" Score="0" Text="You take out one leg instead of two if you start prone.  I know it can be done because I can do this pretty well, but it is a matter of opinion whether it's the same technique." CreationDate="2020-07-07T14:58:32.860" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20562" PostId="9997" Score="0" Text="I've trained both techniques, and I've never encountered someone who thought they were even remotely the same." CreationDate="2020-07-07T15:43:04.780" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20563" PostId="9984" Score="0" Text="@HuwEvans: If someone has their arm chambered ready to punch - any telegraphing and stepping will happen before you can tell whether they're punching to the ribs or head - and if you wait until they're throwing the punch with your hand down low ready to raise it into the block, you're asking for trouble IMHO." CreationDate="2020-07-07T16:55:48.040" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20564" PostId="9984" Score="0" Text="@TonyD we have no issue learning the ability to read attacks in this manner. Bear in mind we stand further appart than karateka would.  Hence blocking the wrist." CreationDate="2020-07-07T17:03:07.643" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20565" PostId="9984" Score="0" Text="@HuwEvans: I'm not sure how that would hold up for self defence; good fighters only throw committed punches when they're anticipating they might hit, and given the speed of footwork vs punching, won't punch if you're at wrist-to-wrist distance.  Cooperative exercises are a different world.  But anyway, seems hard to communicate our respective points in writing - would be fun if we were close enough to train together, but I'm giving up on this one.  Cheers" CreationDate="2020-07-07T17:22:04.917" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20566" PostId="9984" Score="0" Text="@TonyD It's possible the founder of kyukoshin felt the same way.  I heard He once trained SK but left to found his own style.  But this is how we train in any case:  Luring our attackers to come within distance and dodging, blocking, shifting weight and stepping as they close.  The idea here is that this block should stop the attacker and leave them in place on the tips of their toes.  We never maintain the distance where we can be hit for long except when we are striking." CreationDate="2020-07-07T17:33:56.950" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20567" PostId="10000" Score="0" Text="How long is the dumbbell bar? Chiishi are generally longer than dumbbells. That's the only difference I can imagine." CreationDate="2020-07-08T11:57:25.157" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20568" PostId="10000" Score="0" Text="It's shorter than a Chi-ishi dowel. Also, quite heavier." CreationDate="2020-07-08T12:03:35.913" UserId="1965" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20569" PostId="9996" Score="0" Text="Restomp the groin." CreationDate="2020-07-08T16:42:48.480" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20570" PostId="6776" Score="0" Text="There's this karate called Kudo karate. Basically mixing Kyokushin and judo together hence KUDO. Sometimes, at least for the general ppl who take martial arts as a hobby and passion may find cross-training difficult so may consider joining a martial arts that has it all." CreationDate="2020-07-13T13:59:35.403" UserId="10707" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20571" PostId="10006" Score="1" Text="I am not familiar with the idea of a good kung fu instructor having 'messy' movements." CreationDate="2020-07-15T11:18:11.387" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20572" PostId="10006" Score="0" Text="It might be wrong, but I think it will take an actual practitioner of a Chinese style to answer this." CreationDate="2020-07-15T11:58:01.723" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20573" PostId="10006" Score="1" Text="I have studied wushu (more performance than martial art) and bagua, which should both qualify as Chinese styles." CreationDate="2020-07-15T13:04:10.553" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20574" PostId="10007" Score="0" Text="Thanks, +1ed.  Shorinji Kempo is not karate though... not by any stretch.  It's basically pure (chinese) Qi Na with strikes and blocks from the old Jujitsu styles.  The closest style to Japanese Shorinji Kempo is actually the demo's given by the chinese police. eg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUMjs_3iLIE" CreationDate="2020-07-15T16:25:18.353" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20575" PostId="10007" Score="0" Text="@HuwEvans That’s true, and yet stylistically it looks more similar to Japanese karate in all the videos I saw. And I did pull them up to watch before commenting. So it definitely has that karate vibe about it." CreationDate="2020-07-15T16:28:38.477" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20576" PostId="10007" Score="0" Text="It may look similar but it shares no Kata though and all the blocks are different.  We never use karate style punches either, it's a kung-fu style full body movement.  I have actually attended a few karate classes and there are very few points of common ground." CreationDate="2020-07-15T16:33:37.680" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20577" PostId="10007" Score="0" Text="Good info! I was not aware there was such a big difference." CreationDate="2020-07-15T16:34:28.653" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20578" PostId="10007" Score="0" Text="Not surprising TBH...  The Japanese government and courts and even the governing organisation try to play down the Chinese heritage." CreationDate="2020-07-15T16:36:52.983" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20580" PostId="10009" Score="0" Text="Not sure where you put the *zen* state on the &quot;unconscious&quot; scale, but *aikido* was said (at the time) to be &quot;*zen* in motion&quot;." CreationDate="2020-07-17T19:02:34.373" UserId="494" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20581" PostId="10009" Score="0" Text="Scale of unconscious, i mean that fighter lost his mind, but still figth with help of  instincts. Of course i do not wait that it Will be some exiting fight  but perhaps on the dead door does it possible to use only instincts?" CreationDate="2020-07-18T02:21:14.007" UserId="10961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20582" PostId="10010" Score="2" Text="I didn't see that fight. I'm pretty shure his long-term memory didn't work, but his mind still worked in the fight. He wasn't capable of complex thoughts, but trained moves still could be called up.&#xA;It is like the moves you can do in traing and fights, where you don't have to: If he does that, then I do this with my arm, folled by this with my leg.&#xA;This is what makes new techniques slow when you learn them, untill you have this in muscle memory." CreationDate="2020-07-18T06:04:10.153" UserId="10685" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20583" PostId="10009" Score="0" Text="Consciousness is a notoriously difficult concept to define. What do you consider &quot;lost his mind&quot; to mean?" CreationDate="2020-07-18T11:24:52.280" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20584" PostId="10009" Score="2" Text="Not an answer, but anime IS NOT reality. I'd really like to see a master that has some kind of power, but you know... science." CreationDate="2020-07-18T21:22:13.483" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20585" PostId="10010" Score="0" Text="{nods} And one thing in common with most &quot;fight while unconscious&quot; moments is that there's very little actual reaction to what's going on in the arena. Rather, it's a static turtling up and blind lashing out. There's a similar thing where an ex-military guy trained himself to reflexively break the circuit of a taser when shot (although it does seem to require him knowing it's coming)." CreationDate="2020-07-18T23:53:57.890" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20586" PostId="10009" Score="0" Text="Look up &quot;mushin&quot;. Also, know that if you relax and sort of stop trying to think so hard, you find that sometimes you can make big breakthroughs, as your body just does the right thing seemingly all on its own. Oh, you're still conscious. But it's more like you're no longer suppressing your subconscious / gut feelings. Your subconscious is soaking everything up, and sometimes it's way ahead of your conscious. Sometimes you gotta give your subconscious the driver's seat for a little while. The key is relaxing and trying not to analyze and think into the future. Just be present." CreationDate="2020-07-19T14:21:18.683" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20587" PostId="10009" Score="0" Text="Here's an example of what I'm talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_oB5vvhQw8" CreationDate="2020-07-19T14:43:11.343" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20588" PostId="10009" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand Please write an answer." CreationDate="2020-07-19T22:28:01.420" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20589" PostId="7495" Score="0" Text="This is an interesting observation. I would like to have seen the instructor trying to make the pressure point techniques work on you. But there's no explanation as to why the techniques weren't working on you. Nice to have a hard head though. And yes, I agree with not breaking your own bones." CreationDate="2020-07-20T14:54:22.070" UserId="10830" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20590" PostId="10019" Score="1" Text="Punching to the head is dangerous to your hands because the skull is one of the strongest skeletal structures in our body (second only to the hip) and a natural reaction to being punched is moving the head so that the skull is hit. Full stop. This will probably break your hand, conditioning or not." CreationDate="2020-07-22T19:10:40.460" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20591" PostId="10019" Score="0" Text="That is true. I can revise my answer to indicate simply that you are likely to break the skin even punching &quot;softer&quot; targets because the other guy is moving in ways that bags don't." CreationDate="2020-07-22T19:28:46.257" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20592" PostId="10020" Score="0" Text="I kihap as my heavy strike is on it's way to the target. It helps with my breathing. If my partner is paying attention, it's also a tell because I don't kihap for lighter strikes." CreationDate="2020-07-22T23:57:49.137" UserId="10830" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20594" PostId="10020" Score="2" Text="Yes, the right timing is just before landing the strike itself to start the kihap. Don't wait until after the strike completes. Nobody does that except in forms competition so as to emphasize the strike in order to impress the judges. It's silly. It's stupid. Don't do it." CreationDate="2020-07-23T03:38:32.203" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20595" PostId="10019" Score="0" Text="Thanks @PhilipKlöcking and Macaco Branco, can you give a specific advise how to fight and use your hands in a real life situation in order not to injure your hands and legs?" CreationDate="2020-07-23T05:14:41.430" UserId="6750" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20596" PostId="10019" Score="2" Text="@ Avi If you enjoy some form of self-defense training (which I hope you do, since self-instruction does not make much sense), one of the first maxims you should learn is to hit hard targets soft and soft targets hard, ie. slaps to the head, punches to the torso, kicks to the thighs. Same goes for blocks/parries. Blocking a shin with your forearm will probably have unwanted consequences, while meeting it with the side of your calf or a soft hand prevents injuries. If your lessons do not include this, they are probably rubbish." CreationDate="2020-07-23T06:37:42.403" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20598" PostId="10017" Score="0" Text="i mean that depends what it's the bag..." CreationDate="2020-07-23T10:54:51.613" UserId="10972" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20599" PostId="10020" Score="2" Text="Ah, yes, the famous &quot;aifor-gottū kiai&quot;, performed after the strike has finished..." CreationDate="2020-07-23T12:01:51.090" UserId="9212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20600" PostId="7653" Score="0" Text="Note that ancient wrestling in Rome and Greece is *not* the same as modern &quot;Greco-Roman&quot; wrestling, which originates in the mid-1800s in France, and which gained its misleading name as marketing." CreationDate="2020-07-23T12:30:26.967" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20601" PostId="10017" Score="0" Text="I have the impresion they only wanted to re-create the look of a real punching bag, not the functionality." CreationDate="2020-07-23T13:03:35.060" UserId="1811" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20602" PostId="10024" Score="0" Text="Can you explain why you feel this is best? :) You've got a decent start to an answer, but details help." CreationDate="2020-07-23T13:25:05.093" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20603" PostId="10025" Score="0" Text="^_^ Welcome to the site! Good to have another fellow capoeiristra." CreationDate="2020-07-23T13:26:24.303" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20604" PostId="10012" Score="0" Text="Although an interesting anecdote, this does not answer why pressure points work differently on different people." CreationDate="2020-07-23T14:47:12.183" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20605" PostId="10020" Score="1" Text="@Chronocidal: I was trying to get Google Translate to understand that one before I sounded it out for myself. :-D That said, there is a place for such a *kiai* in terms of intimidation factor, or to summon additional strength in your stance for receiving the counter-attack. That said, I think this guy just made a mistake." CreationDate="2020-07-23T15:26:44.047" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20606" PostId="10024" Score="0" Text="I'd like to see a comparison between short vs long selfie sticks. If the concern is someone snatching your smartphone while you are filming yourself, they're reaching for the best point of contact, the end where the phone is. How do you prevent the stick from being ripped out of your hand? Letting the stick drop allows the owner to step in and (threaten to) strike the thief vs pulling the stick towards you which gives an advantage to the thief. Managing the stick places focus on the phone and not the opponent https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/selfie-sticks-officially-weapons-new-6846137" CreationDate="2020-07-23T15:47:08.223" UserId="10830" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20607" PostId="6645" Score="2" Text="Funny consequence - I happened to be in a sports store after this and ended up buying a Nordic walking pole because it gives me something portable but long enough &amp; robust that I can use to *practice* a range of sets, although Spear looks pretty silly. The trigger was one of my fellow instructors saying how on on a Hong Kong trip he'd been given a short &quot;middle pole&quot; to demonstrate a spear set indoors. It feels weird and looks strange but you can practice a long-weapon set with something that just covers the range of your grip." CreationDate="2020-07-23T19:15:52.283" UserId="179" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20608" PostId="10024" Score="0" Text="@thatgirlisfunny note that my original question was about something that can be turned into a weapon, not primarily about protecting my phone. So Vitaly's answer matches one of the earlier ones - a longer stick collapses into something tough." CreationDate="2020-07-23T19:17:17.143" UserId="179" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20609" PostId="10024" Score="1" Text="@Andy Now I understand. You're in search of the perfect (umbrella) selfie stick. More like Sherlock Holmes than Bruce Lee." CreationDate="2020-07-23T20:06:57.193" UserId="10830" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20610" PostId="9979" Score="0" Text="@HamidrezaDehanvi I write this with the sole intention of possibly helping you. I assure you I have no other intent and I write this with zero judgement or any type of negativity.  Your question makes me wonder if you are suffering from Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD).  OCD can generate pervasive fears that the afflicted has harmed others.  Psychiatric (medication) and psychological (therapy) treatments are available to help those suffering from OCD." CreationDate="2020-07-23T20:48:04.510" UserId="6354" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20611" PostId="10028" Score="0" Text="Thank you for this comprehensive answer. So the main takeaway is simply keeping my chin tilted at all times, having my guard up and doing the best to tuck in the chin against the shoulder to defend against counters. Since the idea of &quot;tucking in the chin behind the shoulders&quot; might encourage bad form.TBH really, when I started out with shadowboxing and really taking martial arts seriously, I used to make the beginner's mistake of not really visualizing my opponent." CreationDate="2020-07-25T13:37:52.467" UserId="10707" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20612" PostId="10028" Score="0" Text="But now that I have gotten a bit more experience and knowledge I do exercise proper footwork, offence and defence throughout my shadowboxing. However, when I try to throw my punches with my chin tucked against my shoulder, my form gets all messy...which really does make me doubt the necessity of such a technique, cuz at the end of the day you might block a counter with your shoulder, but the other side of your chin is still exposed. Right? I guess, the best rule of thumb is just keeping your chin tilted at all times and have your guard up firm to anticipate and intercept a counter or offense." CreationDate="2020-07-25T13:42:45.693" UserId="10707" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20613" PostId="10028" Score="1" Text="@EPICTubeHD &quot;keeping my chin **tilted**&quot; - yes! Tucking in the chin behind your shoulders mean you need to do two things - (1) tilt your head downwards and (2) raise your shoulders in. This might encourage bad form at times, yes. *cuz at the end of the day you might block a counter with your shoulder, but the other side of your chin is still exposed. Right?* Technically no, the shoulder that protects your chin is the shoulder of the hand you have just punched with, on the other side of your face, you have to cover up with your hand." CreationDate="2020-07-25T13:56:09.433" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20614" PostId="10028" Score="1" Text="@EPICTubeHD So, for example, if you throw a Jab, your left shoulder turns up and inward a bit and slightly touches your left side of the face, on the right side of your face, you have to cover up with your right hand. Someone told me this: One of the two parents must stay home to protect the baby. When one goes out (when one hand punches), the other stays in (the other hand protects the chin). Add the tilt, and you have solid posture and form. Try to watch some kickboxing videos, and see how they do this. It is a little difficult to explain this in writing." CreationDate="2020-07-25T13:57:10.050" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20615" PostId="10028" Score="1" Text="I will try to add some links. And yes to that rule of thumb. You don't need to raise the shoulders all the time to protect the chin, do that when you throw punches and with the punching shoulder." CreationDate="2020-07-25T13:57:15.957" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20616" PostId="10028" Score="0" Text="Thanks for all the comments...really appreciate your answer :)" CreationDate="2020-07-25T14:02:27.160" UserId="10707" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20624" PostId="10030" Score="5" Text="There is a trade-of of realism vs risk of injury. In MMA, the trade favors realism more then in Judo or BJJ." CreationDate="2020-07-28T10:41:57.100" UserId="10293" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20625" PostId="9483" Score="0" Text="@Sjana I konw what kinetic energy is, yet I disagree with everything you wrote. Why do think that the Capoeira kick had more kinetic energy? the measurement's in the show showed otherwise, and why do you think that  the Capoeira kick was more centered? both kicks hit with the same part of the leg." CreationDate="2020-07-28T10:48:54.557" UserId="10293" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20626" PostId="10031" Score="1" Text="The original quotation is from a [comment to an answer](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/10019/5961) for [How to train your hands while working with punching/ boxing bag](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/10016/5961)." CreationDate="2020-07-28T13:33:56.040" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20627" PostId="10030" Score="0" Text="I do see that, but when I say &quot;why hasn't it become an issue&quot; I mean why haven't we seen more people landing badly (or purposefully) on legs and breaking them. These moves aren't even attempted that often." CreationDate="2020-07-29T05:46:42.450" UserId="10450" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20628" PostId="10030" Score="2" Text="Professional MMA is not only fighting, but also a business. Purposefully and badly injuring opponents in front of millions of viewers probably does not have a good impact on the share value, both of the company as a whole and the fighters individually, not to speak about the standing of such a fighter within the community of fellow fighters." CreationDate="2020-07-29T07:31:49.660" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20629" PostId="10030" Score="0" Text="Fair point that addresses why people aren't intentionally snapping legs, Anderson Silva's leg breaking on a checked kick was not well-received, to put it lightly. He did lose to a rare scissor takedown by Ryo Chonan, no legs broken." CreationDate="2020-07-29T08:36:29.730" UserId="10450" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20632" PostId="10033" Score="0" Text="https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/crimeinenglandandwales/yearendingdecember2019&#xA;&#xA;See the graph under point 3: Violent crime" CreationDate="2020-07-29T15:08:36.917" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20633" PostId="7123" Score="0" Text="How do we put this question out of it's misery? Minus 4 for three and half years." CreationDate="2020-07-29T15:09:41.697" UserId="10830" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20634" PostId="10033" Score="0" Text="Lol! Downvote! Thanks for the link. It still sounds like a silly question. But I'm an outsider to questions about legalities, etc." CreationDate="2020-07-29T15:22:44.003" UserId="10830" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20635" PostId="10033" Score="0" Text="Since you provided the link, I upvoted your question." CreationDate="2020-07-29T15:24:13.037" UserId="10830" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20636" PostId="7123" Score="0" Text="@thatgirlisfunny I could delete it. But I think that the fact that the question is negative rated is important in it's own right because it shows that martial artists have a hostility to the idea that might sustain worse injuries in training than in a self defence situation.  It shows a remarkable level of irrationality." CreationDate="2020-07-29T15:24:28.910" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20637" PostId="10033" Score="0" Text="it's not personal.  I just don't think someone seeking an answer is likely to find that response useful." CreationDate="2020-07-29T15:26:25.090" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20638" PostId="7123" Score="0" Text="Fighting back suggests injury is possible. Don't you think it's important to learn how to fight when injured? It's unlikely that an assailant will just give up. If you break your hand punching someone, you can still elbow or kick. I don't understand your question, so I will respectfully bow out of this conversation with you, Huw." CreationDate="2020-07-29T15:33:22.867" UserId="10830" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20639" PostId="10032" Score="0" Text="Your detailed answer really helped, thanks! &#xA;Out of curiosity, I looked up kawazu gake, and it doesn't LOOK that risky. Just kinda looks like you hook a leg and do a throw like any other. How does it endanger joints? Is there a telltale sign of techniques that endanger joints?" CreationDate="2020-07-30T02:14:40.463" UserId="10450" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20640" PostId="10032" Score="1" Text="@BatWannaBe Fully grapevining around someone's knee and then dropping your weight are individual risk factors that also synergize. This throw is unusually risky because it a high chance of putting serious lateral pressure on the knee, especially as someone resists. It also makes moving safely difficult, because as you're thrown your knee is trapped in *some* position that may not be safe, and now your opponent might land their hips on that leg, too." CreationDate="2020-07-30T07:53:09.363" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20641" PostId="10032" Score="0" Text="That makes sense, when you add resistance, things don't go as quickly and cleanly as they do in the rehearsed demos. I wonder if judoka ever feel some anxiety about a big sacrifice throw, not knowing if everything lands where it's supposed to." CreationDate="2020-07-30T08:50:44.630" UserId="10450" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20642" PostId="10032" Score="1" Text="@BatWannaBe My club had a rule that higher belts were not allowed to try sacrifice throws on white belts, because the breakfalls are often more difficult or involve knowing not to try to breakfall in a particular direction (or else you faceplant or risk a shoulder)." CreationDate="2020-07-30T08:57:36.810" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20643" PostId="7123" Score="0" Text="@HuwEvans, of course broken bones &amp; noses and concussions COULD happen during training, but a 10-20-second fight on the street, even without guns and knives, could of course easily result in multiple punches to the face, lost teeth, broken jaw, and hitting your head then multiple people stomping on you when you fall down. Have you seriously even seen, in training, more than one hard strike do damage along these lines without the match then being stopped?" CreationDate="2020-07-30T14:46:02.263" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20644" PostId="7123" Score="0" Text="@AmorphousBlob Of course not, but I have seen concussion, broken noses etc.  That is why there are two questions.  One about frequency and the other about severity.  This one is just about severity.  It may be that damage from assault results from more serious but less frequent injury.  I don't know which is why I asked." CreationDate="2020-07-30T15:57:37.860" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20645" PostId="10033" Score="0" Text="It's worth pointing out that the UK maintains the original/traditional definitions of &quot;Assault&quot; (a threat or attempt to inflict physical harm or unwanted physical contact) and &quot;Battery&quot; (actually *committing* the act in question), rather than having joined them together.  As such, waving a knife while shouting &quot;I'm gonna gut ya&quot; at someone constitutes Assault, even if the individuals involved maintain their 2 meters of social distancing..." CreationDate="2020-07-30T16:07:09.417" UserId="9212" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20646" PostId="10034" Score="0" Text="That is a nice poster. I wonder if I can get one like that for my room ..." CreationDate="2020-07-30T16:32:07.153" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20647" PostId="10034" Score="0" Text="@RoundHouse: It was standard in a lot of schools when I was growing up. Later on, it was often seen as more something you posted to look like a martial arts school than anything useful. Honestly, it's not a bad reference. I linked to the Amazon listing where I grabbed the image, but there are a lot of people selling it. No idea on where it originated or if there's one rightful rights-holder who should be the one selling it." CreationDate="2020-07-30T16:47:57.617" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20648" PostId="10036" Score="0" Text="The question asks why it should be used, not what it means. Also, you appear to be linking your own blog. While it is acceptable for you to link this, your answer should be complete separate from it, and you should clearly identify it is yours." CreationDate="2020-08-02T14:23:00.880" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20649" PostId="10035" Score="1" Text="What does it mean for a hip to be forwards or backwards? Is that changing [pitch or yaw](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_principal_axes)?" CreationDate="2020-08-02T14:31:26.417" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20650" PostId="10035" Score="0" Text="Changing pitch." CreationDate="2020-08-02T14:39:13.587" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20651" PostId="10036" Score="0" Text="The blog post answer is interesting. Are you willing to add more to the very brief answer you provided above?" CreationDate="2020-08-02T15:05:53.947" UserId="10830" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20652" PostId="10035" Score="0" Text="Are you only interested in striking arts? Hip positioning is important for jiu jitsu and wrestling too." CreationDate="2020-08-02T15:10:14.190" UserId="10830" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20653" PostId="10035" Score="0" Text="Not really,  Hip positioning is very different in grappling." CreationDate="2020-08-02T18:04:52.683" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20654" PostId="10035" Score="0" Text="My memory of SK is rusty after 40 years. Are you talking about chudan gamae and ichiji gamae?  (spelling?)" CreationDate="2020-08-03T17:23:05.077" UserId="689" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20655" PostId="10035" Score="0" Text="No these are variations on those stances. I think the Japanese names are ko sidache and zen sidache." CreationDate="2020-08-03T17:25:12.517" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20656" PostId="10035" Score="0" Text="Is this question about why martial arts have different hip positions? Of is this about the particular origins for Shorinji Kempo? Is this difference from each other, or one system has multiple hip positions? As currently asked, any answer with a system having different hip positions seems equally good." CreationDate="2020-08-03T18:46:10.017" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20657" PostId="10035" Score="0" Text="My intent was to ask what other striking or weapon styles used hip tilt to move forward and backward." CreationDate="2020-08-03T18:51:46.793" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20658" PostId="10035" Score="0" Text="Can you add some images for the two versions? that would be quite useful ..." CreationDate="2020-08-03T20:24:56.217" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20659" PostId="10035" Score="0" Text="I'll try to upload a YouTube video." CreationDate="2020-08-03T20:26:18.633" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20664" PostId="10041" Score="0" Text="So, if say you're doing a part-time job for money ofc as a coach or mentor, what kind of certification or requirement should be considered?" CreationDate="2020-08-05T11:26:09.943" UserId="10707" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20665" PostId="10041" Score="1" Text="For me (I'm from Russia, we have quite different ranking - so it's hard to answer directly), the main point - very good BASE + often (in the past, at least) and success engagement in different torunaments - local at least. I'll add it to the answer, if you don't mind" CreationDate="2020-08-05T11:27:59.653" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20666" PostId="4356" Score="2" Text="Doing CrossFit or other fitness routines will not train you particularly well for Kickboxing. It will give you an overall level of fitness and conditioning, but the muscle groups and types of movements used in one doesn't translate to the other. Your advice becomes obviously flawed when applied to other sports. If someone suggested that instead of working out during soccer practice they should just go to the gym and lift weights, that would be bad advice. The two together is likely better than just one or the other, but one cannot replace the other" CreationDate="2020-08-05T21:29:27.683" UserId="10996" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20667" PostId="4354" Score="0" Text="Any gym that says that Muay Thai is the same as Kickboxing is a gym to avoid" CreationDate="2020-08-05T21:31:26.847" UserId="10996" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20668" PostId="10042" Score="0" Text="Is competing absolutely necessary? Can an individual mentor without that certification?" CreationDate="2020-08-06T05:22:54.917" UserId="10707" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20670" PostId="10042" Score="2" Text="@EPICTubeHD If you don't compete, then you'll be unable to knowledgably coach students who want to compete." CreationDate="2020-08-06T07:46:19.660" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20671" PostId="10042" Score="0" Text="I see. But say, I coach ppl who only want to do MMA as part of a fitness or something as a reactional sport." CreationDate="2020-08-06T08:43:46.487" UserId="10707" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20672" PostId="10042" Score="2" Text="@EPICTubeHD But you don't know anything about MMA yet, right? First things first." CreationDate="2020-08-06T08:49:45.153" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20673" PostId="10042" Score="0" Text="@EPICTubeHD, maybe I understand now. Please, correct me, if I'm wrong, but you are provoking me to think, that you want(wanted) some &quot;justification&quot; for teaching students in a subject you are barely common with. In MA subject. That definitely contradicts with MA spirit - as you need to be sensei/master to teach. Any other way is a heavy misrespect for MA at whole and that specific MA in particular. I don't think that anyone here will give you another answer with a good faith." CreationDate="2020-08-06T12:53:33.910" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20674" PostId="10042" Score="0" Text="@user2501323 tbh, I do have significant knowledge about martial arts, maybe not have the knowledge of all martial arts but I do have a very good basis on kickboxing, that I have taught myself. So, technically saying that I have little knowledge about the subject would be incorrect. But that's beside the point. Essentially, I want some justification, on the minimum qualification needed to teach. Does that minimum qualification include winning tournaments, getting a black belt? Look, I obviously don't want to coach with the level of skills I have now, but I do want to consider to consider..." CreationDate="2020-08-06T13:37:40.970" UserId="10707" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20675" PostId="10042" Score="2" Text="@EPICTubeHD, self-learning is good - that signs, that you have a strong will - as long as self-training is sometimes harder to maintain, than group-based. But you definitely should check your skills by tournamenting. Sparrings in jym would not give your that expirience. Just join some jym, train for some months - to TEST your level. Really, hard sparring is somewhat another than just shadow boxing, even comparing to bag working - it is ANOTHER. Summary: test your level joining the jym and training." CreationDate="2020-08-06T13:41:46.033" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20677" PostId="10042" Score="1" Text="Join some jym for, say, 2-3 months. If your self-learned skills are really good - you'll understand it. If it does not - you'll also understand it." CreationDate="2020-08-06T13:43:01.007" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20678" PostId="10042" Score="0" Text="so you're saying, competing is a requirement for being a coach or a trainer?" CreationDate="2020-08-06T13:44:39.087" UserId="10707" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20679" PostId="10042" Score="1" Text="From my opinion - yes. That is an ultimate check of your skills. If you pass it - then you definitely have words to say for your students." CreationDate="2020-08-06T13:45:27.700" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20680" PostId="10042" Score="0" Text="I see, thanks for your answer" CreationDate="2020-08-06T13:46:23.823" UserId="10707" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20681" PostId="10042" Score="1" Text="Never mind, glad, if it helps, even a bit." CreationDate="2020-08-06T13:46:52.927" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20682" PostId="10044" Score="2" Text="Answers and knowledge are welcome here, advertisement is not." CreationDate="2020-08-07T08:14:16.233" UserId="10080" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20683" PostId="10044" Score="0" Text="Hey Man, please change your user name so it doesn't look like SPAM. Your answer isn't an advert, but your name looks that way. And do you have any link references or video or images you can add to your answer?" CreationDate="2020-08-09T01:24:28.490" UserId="10830" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20684" PostId="10045" Score="1" Text="Thank you RoundHouse for this amazing answer. Honestly deserve millions of upvotes. Really really good and inspiring life advice. It's almost like you have been through all this. TBH, martial arts is a passion of my life but my real goal is theoretical physics. All I was thinking about was if it's possible to consider martial arts as this side career of mine, ofc given that I am well trained, mastered my arts etc. I have not however considered the weight of the situation, as in the burden of responsibility, the fact of me teaching...etc etc. Thanks for sheding some light on it!" CreationDate="2020-08-09T05:11:21.430" UserId="10707" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20685" PostId="10010" Score="0" Text="Basically said what I was going to write as an answer.&#xA;People fighting while unconscious is nothing new and has happened tons of times.&#xA;It is only quite recently that it has become more easily recognisable with the development of technology. Slow motion camera's and all that. You can see in the slowmo cam of that fight that he's clearly already unconscious. His facial expression says it all. He's not consciously fighting anymore. His instinct took over." CreationDate="2020-08-09T10:34:49.290" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20686" PostId="10048" Score="1" Text="Haven't found an answer yet, but there are references to the books being open-air on gravel paths before WW2, and [this 1930 gym footage](https://youtu.be/ZP8dKYfF7zo) shows copious sidestepping." CreationDate="2020-08-10T14:37:59.937" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20687" PostId="10048" Score="0" Text="This might be a better fit on Sports.SE." CreationDate="2020-08-10T15:05:43.973" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20688" PostId="10048" Score="0" Text="@JohnP If kendo and Boxing questions are fair game I don't see why not fencing." CreationDate="2020-08-10T15:14:50.080" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20689" PostId="10048" Score="0" Text="@HuwEvans - You misunderstand me. It fits here, sure, I was just musing that there might be a larger proportion of fencers on sports.se. However, looking at the tags, they have 5 questions we have 10. So might be more likely to be answered here, but if it gets no love, a migration might help get an answer. More musing than anything. :)" CreationDate="2020-08-10T15:20:31.653" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20690" PostId="10048" Score="2" Text="https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/6sesye/why_is_fencing_playing_field_shaped_like_a_strip/" CreationDate="2020-08-10T15:46:44.243" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20691" PostId="10047" Score="1" Text="Makes sense but boy am I uncomfortable with this sort of ambiguity. It's like a moving target of how to prevent the sport from looking too much like other sports." CreationDate="2020-08-11T04:47:29.647" UserId="10450" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20692" PostId="10040" Score="2" Text="How many sanctioned fights have you had? You can expect to coach people around your same level. So if you're a low level professional, expect to coach low level pros. If you're a 4-2 amateur, expect to coach amateurs." CreationDate="2020-08-11T18:33:29.303" UserId="8174" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20693" PostId="10040" Score="0" Text="What if I wanna coach ppl who doesn't wanna fight pro or amateur and just doing it for recreation or smth like that" CreationDate="2020-08-12T06:40:16.617" UserId="10707" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20694" PostId="10052" Score="0" Text="I didn't thought of a certain rule set, so all answers are welcome. I tagged it &quot;wrestling&quot; and &quot;groundwork&quot; not because of the rule set, but because the nature of the move." CreationDate="2020-08-13T13:59:23.813" UserId="10293" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20695" PostId="10049" Score="1" Text="Do you have any problems with kick height?" CreationDate="2020-08-14T17:25:27.260" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20696" PostId="10054" Score="0" Text="+1, though I'm not sure I agree that horse isn't a fighting stance. I see it used a lot in grappling: in throws like kata guruma, in moments of defensive posture in the clinch, and as a guard-passing or turtle-cracking position." CreationDate="2020-08-16T08:20:06.553" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20697" PostId="10055" Score="0" Text="So, how do you use it?" CreationDate="2020-08-17T21:32:49.217" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20698" PostId="10055" Score="1" Text="Hi @Andrew I agree with Macaco. Could you please be more generous with your answer? I've seen this hook hand position used as part of the Single Whip move from Tai Chi. Which art do you practice and how is this hand position used?" CreationDate="2020-08-18T01:51:34.137" UserId="10830" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20699" PostId="10057" Score="1" Text="Is this what Ross called UNAGI? ;)" CreationDate="2020-08-18T04:01:56.960" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20700" PostId="10057" Score="2" Text="@RoundHouse Haha! I know you’re kidding, as that’s a “Friends” reference. That referred to Zanshin, but Zanshin is different. But actually this does have a name, and it is called “Mushin”." CreationDate="2020-08-18T04:56:36.630" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20702" PostId="10055" Score="0" Text="I've merged your various partial answers. In the future, you can [edit] an answer to add additional information. Posting new answers is done when you have more than one answer to provide, so that the correct one can be voted up or accepted. I also removed your contact info, as it's against site policy to append that. If you have video of your use of this strike, that would be handy." CreationDate="2020-08-18T18:52:58.227" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20703" PostId="9856" Score="0" Text="All good examples. But there are just **way too many** examples. My suggestion is to look up some `submission sequences` on YouTube and also get with some local BJJ schools to show you some where you can actually try them out. I'm a little thrown back that the guard wasn't mentioned. There are **TONS** of subs available here that can be combined with sweeps." CreationDate="2020-08-19T02:22:03.943" UserId="11019" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20704" PostId="10010" Score="0" Text="Check out `Chris Leben` fights in the `UFC`. There are numerous examples of him being totally &quot;out of it&quot; but is able to KO his opponent." CreationDate="2020-08-19T02:27:06.243" UserId="11019" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20705" PostId="2509" Score="0" Text="There is most certainly rank in no-gi. Rash guards are colored based on your belt. It's also possible to get a, say, black belt in no-gi... and then later obtain a black belt in the gi. See `Joe Rogan`" CreationDate="2020-08-19T02:30:09.020" UserId="11019" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20706" PostId="2509" Score="0" Text="@JoeBeck Ranked rash guards are still relatively rare in my experience – some tournaments require them, a small number of schools require them, but most instructors don't give no-gi rank. I think Keith is talking about how a lot of tournaments use the belt system for gi divisions but a beginner/intermediate/advanced system for no-gi divisions, so that wrestlers and so on get appropriately competition." CreationDate="2020-08-19T08:42:59.220" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20711" PostId="9935" Score="0" Text="EPIC Tube HD, I'm not pushing for an accept since my answer doesn't feel entirely definitive to me, but is there anything more I can add to better handle your question?" CreationDate="2020-08-19T14:11:25.993" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20712" PostId="10063" Score="2" Text="IIRC there were weapons used by the ancient Greeks and Romans called cestuses that were weights strapped to the back of the hand. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cestus" CreationDate="2020-08-24T07:45:47.907" UserId="10372" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20713" PostId="10062" Score="0" Text="Not a great idea as pointed out in the answers. However, you can use two on the ends of a piece of light rope as an ad-hoc [meteor hammer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteor_hammer) or [kusari-fundo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kusari-fundo) with reasonable success (though you might get in trouble with law enforcement in some places for doing this)." CreationDate="2020-08-24T11:52:48.740" UserId="9341" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20714" PostId="10062" Score="0" Text="Are you intending to punch, or to use your fist as a downward hammer/stabbing motion?" CreationDate="2020-08-24T12:49:17.413" UserId="11032" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20715" PostId="10062" Score="0" Text="@AustinHemmelgarn two carabiners on the ends of a rope are called quickdraws. A completely ordinary thing to carry. Well, law enforcement might ask you why did you have only a single quickdraw with you, without a harness or climbing shoes..." CreationDate="2020-08-24T13:48:51.233" UserId="11028" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20716" PostId="10063" Score="0" Text="@nick012000 They look very effective. Looks like it would tighten the fist and protect the bones. It also braces the wrist, preventing an accidental wrist sprain. They obviously knew what they were doing." CreationDate="2020-08-24T13:52:26.510" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20717" PostId="10062" Score="2" Text="@IMil Use as a weapon is why they may be particularly unhappy with you. If used as such, you might get hit by laws that prohibit possession or attempted use of a [slungshot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slungshot) (technically similar, and people _have_ been charged for this for home-made meteor hammers), which is a felony or misdemeanor in and of itself in some places here in the US (and possibly other jurisdictions)." CreationDate="2020-08-24T13:58:00.547" UserId="9341" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20718" PostId="10063" Score="0" Text="What about a slap instead of a punch?" CreationDate="2020-08-24T16:43:56.407" UserId="6779" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20719" PostId="10063" Score="0" Text="Slaps don't have the kind of power behind them that comes from a good punch. You'd need to use this against a soft target on your opponent's body, maybe the floating ribs, temple, or nose. But that's limiting what you can strike. And you're limited to certain angles, rather than being face to face with your opponent. In a street fight, about the only way to use it as a slapping technique is like a sucker punch, from an off angle, preemptively. And then you could just throw it away and punch like normal. Kind of useless for normal self-defense." CreationDate="2020-08-24T19:28:25.183" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20720" PostId="10068" Score="1" Text="I feel like most of your post is about a kubotan rather than a carabiner..." CreationDate="2020-08-27T13:36:52.943" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20721" PostId="10068" Score="1" Text="@MacacoBranco: most of my post is applicable to anything you might grasp and use hammerfist-style, and I'm saying that's a more credible way to use a carabiner than the brass-knuckles suggestion in the video.  A little of my post is about the specifics of carabiners: their shape making it easier to hold during impact if you put the larger end outwards (towards the target).  If I were talking about kubotans, I may have suggested other targets, as they can extend further past the hand and penetrate more deeply into the target.  I would agree that a kubotan would be more useful than a carabiner." CreationDate="2020-08-27T17:57:31.587" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20722" PostId="10069" Score="0" Text="Can you specify what you mean by &quot;some weightlifting&quot;? Most of your punching power will come from pecs/triceps, and just general increase in speed. All of which could have been affected by what you were doing, but specifics on the weightlifting would help." CreationDate="2020-08-28T16:43:28.353" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20723" PostId="10070" Score="0" Text="That's impressive! But, it sounds like you woke up and therefore, weren't unconscious when you finished the fight." CreationDate="2020-08-29T00:05:23.443" UserId="10830" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20724" PostId="10069" Score="0" Text="@JohnP I edited the question to answer your question, thanks!" CreationDate="2020-08-29T15:41:42.463" UserId="10634" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20725" PostId="10072" Score="0" Text="Since the long head of the biceps is connected to the shoulder, could it be that stronger biceps help &quot;carry&quot; momentum from the shoulder to the fist?" CreationDate="2020-08-29T15:59:48.393" UserId="10634" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20726" PostId="10072" Score="0" Text="I'm not a doctor (or much of a martial artiste), but I just can't see how, unless there's some contraction of the bicep, which I can't imagine how that would happen either." CreationDate="2020-08-31T12:13:47.983" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20727" PostId="10073" Score="2" Text="If you read about this somewhere, please provide a reference so others can read it too." CreationDate="2020-09-01T16:44:48.933" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20730" PostId="2643" Score="0" Text="Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus's `De re militari` strongly agrees with your points although for different reasons. And what my teacher believed in was using both - swing a 2x weighted weapon for half an hour and then get a real one - you'll be amazed by the speed you have just developed." CreationDate="2020-09-08T18:42:12.403" UserId="485" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20740" PostId="10075" Score="0" Text="Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been [moved to chat](https://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/112830/discussion-on-question-by-eternal-ether-what-would-be-the-set-of-martial-arts-th)." CreationDate="2020-09-09T13:57:57.540" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20741" PostId="10076" Score="0" Text="Thank you for responding. Just to clarify - I should start with Krav Maga, right?" CreationDate="2020-09-09T15:22:50.363" UserId="11053" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20742" PostId="10076" Score="1" Text="@Eternal_Ether It really doesn't matter which one you start with. I started with BJJ and added Krav Maga into the mix while still doing BJJ, but it really depends on your preference." CreationDate="2020-09-09T15:25:05.343" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20743" PostId="10077" Score="0" Text="Nice answer! I never would have thought of what you are saying. It's always nice to learn from a more experienced martial artist :)" CreationDate="2020-09-09T16:30:17.920" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20744" PostId="10077" Score="0" Text="Thank you for your answer. Given your answer, would you agree with @LemmyX of the most useful martial arts for self-defense being Krav Maga and BJJ (assuming instructors focused on self-defense)?" CreationDate="2020-09-09T16:48:19.103" UserId="11053" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20745" PostId="10077" Score="0" Text="@Eternal_Ether You will find recommendation requests on this site will be answered with whatever the responder practices. No, I do not agree on &quot;most useful for self-defense&quot;. Krav Maga or BJJ are good choices, but I do not have substantial experience with them and there are plenty of other good choices. I think the primary point is for you and your instructor to agree on the training goals." CreationDate="2020-09-10T01:53:26.873" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20746" PostId="10076" Score="1" Text="@Eternal_Ether&#xA;To add to LemmyX's comment, the really important thing is to never accept any teaching until you've tried it out with resisting opponents who feel free to innovate within the ruleset given (real like, that's anything, but within a sport like MMA, that is specific rules). Every martial art out there comes with certain assumptions, and their technique is generally built to work within those assumptions. As a bonus, train with people outside your given style. They'll lack certain assumptions, and may surprise you with their genuine reactions." CreationDate="2020-09-10T03:02:07.390" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20747" PostId="10076" Score="0" Text="With all respect, but &quot;try it out with resisting opponents&quot; is nearly impossible to apply to KM - as long as it is &quot;too dangerous&quot; to have normal work in pairs. So, of course, other MA would surprise KM students in a rather bad way." CreationDate="2020-09-10T09:27:10.827" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20748" PostId="10078" Score="3" Text="Why do you think using legs and knees to defend against attack is wrong?" CreationDate="2020-09-10T11:55:33.700" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20750" PostId="10076" Score="0" Text="@user2501323 I disagree. It is not too dangerous to work in pairs, as long as you do so in the safest way possible. You also trail with resistance, otherwise KM would be some random MA where you just go up to random people and break their arm :). In all seriousness though, you do train KM with a resistant partner. At my school for regular techniques you wear a groin protector, and for the sparring-style activities you wear full protection (groin protector, chest pad, and face protector)." CreationDate="2020-09-10T13:01:34.587" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20751" PostId="10076" Score="0" Text="Didn't know that, thank you. Your experience gives me some more respect to KM as MA." CreationDate="2020-09-10T13:04:58.403" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20752" PostId="10080" Score="0" Text="I don't know the fighter you are referring to, but I guess it has something to do with the fact that many MMA fighters these days have a solid BJJ training/background (perhaps in earlier days that wasn't the case). So they aren't afraid of getting into the mount position or pounce at the fighter on guard. For instance, many MMA fighters who had exceptional &quot;take-down&quot; techniques found consistent success in the past - nowadays, even if a fighter isn't great in BJJ/Wrestling, they devote a lot of training time in learning how to defend &quot;take-down&quot; techniques. Great question btw!" CreationDate="2020-09-11T19:52:20.900" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20753" PostId="10080" Score="0" Text="Oh you should look up a few of his fights, he is a hoot. And I'm fairly certain Sakuraba is not afraid of a ground fight. He has a background in catch wrestling, and it shows in his frequent use of takedowns and kneebars. He even gives his opponents his back, postures to prevent throws and submissions as best as possible, and goes for his own submissions.&#xA;If you want a summary of his infamous issue with opponents on their back, there's a Vice article on it. It also mentions some of his fun fights: https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/zmem4a/kazushi-sakurabas-war-on-the-guard." CreationDate="2020-09-12T01:42:07.997" UserId="10450" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20754" PostId="10077" Score="0" Text="@mattm after re-reading your answer a couple of times, I think that your answer really &quot;sinked in&quot;. I think that one thing that I can do is ask the instructors of these martial arts to do one-on-one training with me and ask them to structure it so that it's focused on self-defense. I think this will cost more money (as it's one-on-one instruction), but I will reach my goals faster and I will be sure that what I'm doing will help me in self-defense." CreationDate="2020-09-13T14:22:22.993" UserId="11053" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20755" PostId="10074" Score="0" Text="Strength only affects flexibility if you are not stretching. You can stretch the biceps, so I think your point is flawed." CreationDate="2020-09-14T11:57:30.693" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20756" PostId="10074" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking, some time ago I wondered if it is true, but never checked. REALLY?" CreationDate="2020-09-14T12:13:38.087" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20757" PostId="8742" Score="0" Text="+1 for underlining that point about BASICS. That is a very good and important point. Many dojos/gyms are fell for that - minimal practice, different every time you come in, and then sparrings. Now I do understand, that classes should be backed with huge amount of homework (2 times more than time in class, in fact) - where you train basics alone, but it is  now, and it wasn't obvious at all." CreationDate="2020-09-14T12:31:36.070" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20758" PostId="10074" Score="0" Text="There are stretching exercises for the biceps, yes. And you can get stronger without loss in flexibility, yes. But the flexibility and maximum strength of a given muscle are reducing each other. Since you don't go for maximum strength since what you need is speed, you never reach the point where opportunity costs are a problem, though. Especially since you would want to and do strengthen your triceps muscles as well." CreationDate="2020-09-14T16:33:58.957" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20759" PostId="10074" Score="0" Text="This is somewhat revelation for me.. I heard about it but never trusted. Thank you! I'll correct my answer" CreationDate="2020-09-15T04:36:43.183" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20760" PostId="10083" Score="0" Text="Is your Taekwondo school up and running now? Or are they on virtual class only during covid-19?" CreationDate="2020-09-17T15:37:07.923" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20761" PostId="10083" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand they are up" CreationDate="2020-09-17T15:46:14.277" UserId="11065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20762" PostId="10084" Score="0" Text="I do not want to get back to classes not ready i will feel like the other players with me are superior over me that thing really f**ks me up" CreationDate="2020-09-17T16:31:27.760" UserId="11065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20763" PostId="10084" Score="0" Text="I dont compare myself to others but i do not like being the noob" CreationDate="2020-09-17T16:32:40.540" UserId="11065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20764" PostId="10084" Score="0" Text="@AhmedEzzat They will be better than you no matter what, at least at first. You took 2-3 years off? Of course they're going to be a lot better than you. But that should free you. It takes the pressure off of you to be good. Nobody is going to expect you to be as good as they are. In fact, nobody will care about you, period. They're worried about their own selves. You worry about yourself. You know where you are and where you want to be. So now figure out how to get there. You can't do it without getting back to class. Your anxiety is all in your head." CreationDate="2020-09-17T21:31:46.487" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20765" PostId="10084" Score="0" Text="How fast can i recover my skills ?" CreationDate="2020-09-17T21:55:20.070" UserId="11065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20766" PostId="10084" Score="0" Text="@AhmedEzzat As quickly or as slowly as your body permits. Nobody can say. But you’ll know more as you go. For me, it wasn’t hard getting my split back, but that’s me. Give yourself 6 months. You’ll probably have most of it back by then." CreationDate="2020-09-17T23:59:46.240" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20767" PostId="10086" Score="0" Text="How did you come to know this? Did a practitioner tell you this? What is the source?" CreationDate="2020-09-19T05:42:42.040" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20768" PostId="10086" Score="1" Text="There is no such thing as being perfectly prepared for a real fight. One should always, rightfully,  be afraid of the moment when it comes to this (although not in the moment itself). The best preparation is being a regular brawler, which is kind of the antithesis to being a (modern) martial artist.  There a re some nice anecdotes on this especially regarding the students of Jigoro Kano and how he despised their picking a fight too lightheartedly and regularly..." CreationDate="2020-09-19T21:34:59.053" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20769" PostId="10095" Score="1" Text="Can you please explain what is in the video so that the answer does not become useless in the future if the content at the link changes?" CreationDate="2020-09-22T12:25:21.437" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20770" PostId="6818" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand Given https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/10088/whats-the-name-of-the-shorin-ryu-technique-thats-most-like-upward-palm-block, maybe this would be a good time to provide the corresponding bunkai in Shorin Ryu?" CreationDate="2020-09-22T12:43:43.290" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20771" PostId="9483" Score="0" Text="@AlaychemgoestoCodidact That takes the post into an entirely different direction, namely physics, biology and science. That is not the topic of the question and I don't have enough character in a comment section to explain how it works to you." CreationDate="2020-09-22T13:59:05.867" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20772" PostId="10087" Score="0" Text="Humans have an innate feeling of self-preservation. This innate feeling is sometimes overwritten by several conflicting emotions. The most common being pride. When humans feel the need to defend their pride, they may leap into a fight without second thought. Another is something that was long thought to be unique to humans. That is Altruism. Altruism is when you step into a fight risking your own neck for that of someone else. However, when people are trained in combat, they also know the dangers of combat. And this can freeze people in place when confronted with physical violence. Preserve." CreationDate="2020-09-22T14:07:56.067" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20773" PostId="10087" Score="0" Text="Preservation enters your body like a shock when you are faced with sudden and unexpected danger. When you're training, you never feel the direct need to defend your life. In a real fight with a real assailant, that shock may be too much to handle on the first time it happens, and maybe even a lot of times after that first time. Some people can get over it quite fast, while others have that lingering feeling of self-preservation. Fight or flight. And a lot of people choose flight by default, until they feel more confident about a dangerous violent confrontation." CreationDate="2020-09-22T14:10:46.400" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20774" PostId="10090" Score="1" Text="I've seen the Side Rising kick used as defence in an Olympic TKD match. His opponent used a Front Kick and he used the Side Rising Kick to brush off the Front Kick. He did so using his rear leg. When pulling it back he used the momentum as force to kick off the ground into a jumping roundhouse, hitting his opponent in the back of the head. It was a beautiful sight, but never was able to find the footage again." CreationDate="2020-09-22T14:22:31.277" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20775" PostId="10087" Score="0" Text="@Sjana Yes, all of that is correct. My experience was a little different, though. I was observing myself at the time. And what I realized in that moment was that nothing I had learned in TKD training prepared me for this real fight. I'm a very intuitive person. I visualize scenarios very quickly to see how they'll play out in my mind before I select one to execute. And I just did not see any scenario playing out well. I had no answer for him grabbing me, for example. After running out of ideas, I realized I had nothing. It's a harsh realization when it happens. But I suddenly saw the truth." CreationDate="2020-09-22T14:25:12.940" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20776" PostId="10087" Score="0" Text="All in all, if you can avoid a fight, you always should. If your friend truly was in danger, I'm sure you would've stepped in, despite not knowing how to fight him. The odds of 2 versus 1 still sounds more promising to your brain than &quot;I know my kicks and punches&quot;. I have had to defend myself 3 times in life. As in, truly defend myself. Not talking about silly street brawls where we all know no one's going to die. When it comes to it though, those street brawls do prepare you for more serious encounters. 1/2" CreationDate="2020-09-22T15:31:41.507" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20777" PostId="10087" Score="0" Text="But when you've had an encounter of life and death, you don't want to be in that scenario ever again. So you will automatically avoid a fight at all cost. And when there is no way to get out of the confrontation anymore, you are prepared with your experience from the previous time(s). I don't freeze up anymore. Instead, it became more natural for me to use body language to get the assailant to &quot;lose interest&quot;. Most people who pick a fight do so for the fight itself. When you make it uninteresting for them to fight, they just walk away scoffing a bit. 2/2" CreationDate="2020-09-22T15:33:46.233" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20778" PostId="10086" Score="0" Text="It's a good and valid question. You can't really downvote him for his English. I've suggested an edit to make the question a bit more clear. The question is more about the psychology of a fighter rather than the martial art they practice. &quot;Why is it that fighters can excel in training, but become afraid when there's something to lose&quot;." CreationDate="2020-09-22T15:38:13.760" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20779" PostId="10032" Score="1" Text="This is a common rule in the vast majority of Judo schools. Do NOT attempt Sutemi Waza on people below orange belt. It can end very very badly.. And even in Sutemi Waza, there are techniques that should not be attempted with an unskilled opponent EVER. Mainly the throw mentioned by OP, Kani Basami. As well as Maki Komi. If you don't know how to break your fall, Maki Komi's going to make you feel really really bad if you land hard." CreationDate="2020-09-22T16:00:53.973" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20780" PostId="10093" Score="0" Text="This is more of a comment than an answer to the question." CreationDate="2020-09-22T16:29:39.917" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20781" PostId="75" Score="0" Text="In New South Wales, &quot;the response is to be assessed based on the circumstances as they appeared *at the time* of the act and *not* with the benefit of hindsight.&quot; - https://www.gotocourt.com.au/criminal-law/nsw/self-defence/" CreationDate="2020-09-22T16:53:30.737" UserId="11075" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20782" PostId="10095" Score="1" Text="Thanks for your feedback Macaco, it was quite helpful. Please give me your opinion on my edited post?" CreationDate="2020-09-23T05:08:45.683" UserId="11025" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20784" PostId="10095" Score="1" Text="Thank you. That is much improved." CreationDate="2020-09-23T19:05:10.300" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20785" PostId="4522" Score="0" Text="There's two main reasons for sore wrists and elbows in Boxing and Kickboxing. 1.) Improper handtaping. Get some wrapping cloth for your hands to avoid cramping up when pinching your hand. 2.) Punching with an unstraight wrist. Keep your wrist straight during the entirety of the punch. Keep your elbow completely horizontal during hooks and punch with your entire shoulder without extending your arm all the way." CreationDate="2020-09-24T11:01:36.857" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20786" PostId="10097" Score="1" Text="Welcome to the site, and thank you for your contribution! This would be much better received if you could expand on why these arts specifically are good answers to the question." CreationDate="2020-09-24T15:58:02.320" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20787" PostId="10088" Score="0" Text="I think the reason why you're not getting any answers here is because you haven't specified the shorin-ryu kata that has this technique. There are a number of candidates that are similar. As with all kata bunkai, you do need to look at the movement within the context of the form to be able to get a hint at what its purpose actually was/is." CreationDate="2020-09-25T14:54:43.433" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20788" PostId="241" Score="0" Text="I found I simply flinch less after sparring (boxing) for a while. Took maybe 6 wks (6 sessions). I do flinch more after I get mentally tired though" CreationDate="2020-09-25T17:49:20.407" UserId="10043" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20789" PostId="10088" Score="0" Text="Ahh..I don't know the Shorin kata. I practice ITF TaeKwon-Do. But, i'll look through the Shotokan Kata and try to find an applicable candidate technique." CreationDate="2020-09-26T02:13:44.820" UserId="11025" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20790" PostId="10088" Score="0" Text="If you don't want to limit it to just Shorin-ryu, you might extend it to all Okinawan karate as well. But I suppose you're interested in Shorin-ryu in particular, because your Taekwondo has roots in that. You could point out the movement in your Taekwondo hyung as well." CreationDate="2020-09-26T02:50:51.997" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20791" PostId="10088" Score="0" Text="It's this technique https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAry_mw9Mvo" CreationDate="2020-09-26T18:29:58.760" UserId="11025" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20792" PostId="10088" Score="0" Text="It's this technique https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAry_mw9Mvo  It's the third and sixth movement from, Joong -Gun tul, this pattern https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBMXzIt1NFU. Here's GM Nardizzi doing Joong Gun, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypbA4Xx2SfE" CreationDate="2020-09-26T18:37:07.073" UserId="11025" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20793" PostId="10101" Score="1" Text="We don't &quot;hop&quot; when throwing the switch kick, we shuffle really quick. The space between your feet and the floor - while shuffling - is only enough for a sheet of paper to fit in. &quot;Hop&quot; means you are doing it too slow and are likely to get countered by a cross - which is always the first courter for a switch kick." CreationDate="2020-09-27T13:06:17.937" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20794" PostId="10103" Score="0" Text="Thanks, @Macaco Branco.  I find that it takes more discipline to not step, so I'll work on that.  This will help me apportion the time spent on each one." CreationDate="2020-09-27T13:49:33.963" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20795" PostId="10101" Score="0" Text="Thanks for clarifying that.  Why a cross as a counter instead of a jab (possibly leading to a cross)?" CreationDate="2020-09-27T13:52:27.857" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20796" PostId="10104" Score="0" Text="I find that the step in the 1st option (either forward, rightward, or some direction in between) generates a lot of power also.  Your answer has a lot of &quot;if&quot;s, which reflects the complexity of the situation.  I will try to find a way to do both without doing either so little that it becomes more confusing to muscle memory than it helps.  Thanks." CreationDate="2020-09-27T13:56:10.523" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20797" PostId="10104" Score="0" Text="@user2153235: If my answer helped, I'm glad. :) But don't feel pressured to accept it, of course, and you are always free to change which answer is accepted by clicking on the checkmarks again." CreationDate="2020-09-27T14:19:52.277" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20798" PostId="10104" Score="0" Text="Thanks for your openness.  I thinks it's a valid answer because it explains the various possibilities.  The reality is that it is a complicated situation." CreationDate="2020-09-27T14:26:11.103" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20799" PostId="10106" Score="0" Text="Was it this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBiJtYsn-LQ" CreationDate="2020-09-27T19:11:08.347" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20800" PostId="10106" Score="0" Text="That's Bong Hyung Cho Dan" CreationDate="2020-09-27T19:35:44.913" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20801" PostId="10107" Score="1" Text="Great answer. Tony, you said *&quot;After the jab-cross, I'd almost always throw another jab as I rotate back, ... kick without moving the back foot.&quot;* I am wondering why you would throw a 3rd punch (the second Jab after the Cross) that actually un-does the momentum and unloads the left leg (lead leg)? After throwing the Right handed Cross, our left side is loaded with power - we could choose to throw a left hook or a left/lead roundhouse with that stored up momentum. Throwing the second Jab after the Cross takes away all that built up momentum and energy, no?" CreationDate="2020-09-28T04:32:48.787" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20802" PostId="10107" Score="1" Text="@RoundHouse The second jab is used to keep them busy and distracted and as a &quot;spacer&quot; - measuring distance and preventing them getting close enough to punch you while you bring the kick around.  As such, you're not driving forward behind that jab, you're just turning back for the kick, but if they try to close to punch you they should walk into the jab.  There's a couple problems with throwing a hook instead: to get any power behind it - you'd have to step the back leg in toward the front foot to narrow the stance so the hips can rotate powerfully behind the hook, otherwise you'd be flailing" CreationDate="2020-09-28T13:07:02.953" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20803" PostId="10107" Score="0" Text="with something like a &quot;reverse knife-hand&quot; aka &quot;ridge hand&quot; or inner-forearm &quot;collaring&quot; attack rugby players sometimes use (illegally).  You'd also be very exposed if you left the back foot where it was during a hook.  The second problem is any contact your hook makes pushes the front side of your body in the opposite direction to the roundhouse, so you're taking power out of the rotation that powers your kick." CreationDate="2020-09-28T13:09:12.543" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20804" PostId="10108" Score="1" Text="Lots of great information there!  I especially like the point about rotating too far with a missed kick and leaving your back exposed.  That's one reason it's so important to stay relaxed during a fight - it lets you commit as late as possible - when you're confident your opponent will still be there when your kick arrives." CreationDate="2020-09-28T13:24:06.647" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20805" PostId="10107" Score="0" Text="Thanks, Tony D. I think I may not have emphasize the nature of the step. It's not a big step. It's more of a natural tendency to shift the right hind leg when launch the front (loaded) left leg into the inner left thigh of the opponent. I find it harder to keep the rear right leg planted on the ground...(continued below)" CreationDate="2020-09-28T13:27:08.447" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20806" PostId="10107" Score="0" Text="...(continued) It tends to at least shift positions, to facilitate the rightward swing of the left leg, and in so doing, tends to be launched in the direction of the rightward swing to enable more power. I was just told long ago (possibly in another context) that keeping the supporting leg on the ground ensures more power in a roundhouse, though I'm not sure about the biomechanics behind this." CreationDate="2020-09-28T13:27:15.843" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20807" PostId="10108" Score="0" Text="Thanks, RoundHouse.  This is an extensive exposition, so I'm going to have to reserve it for evening reading.  Much appreciated." CreationDate="2020-09-28T13:27:57.673" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20808" PostId="10107" Score="0" Text="@user2153235: in Thai boxing, a step with the back leg is often used to prime the hips for a more powerful front-foot kick.  For this particular combination, whether you need to step or not will be largely about adjusting the angle and distance based on where your opponent has got to during the punches.  Still, if the distances and angles are ok without stepping *and* your technique's good,  there's no particular reason to step the back foot." CreationDate="2020-09-28T14:28:58.917" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20809" PostId="10107" Score="0" Text="Something to experiment with: try not to throw your weight fully on to the left leg during the cross: think of the cross as being powered by a rotation of the right hip forwards, and that hip rotation powered by the right leg - initially bent at a the knee - straighting against the floor.  If your centre of mass is about 65/35 between the left &amp; right feet, you should have the ability to twist the hips powerfully back into the kick without needing a step to prime them.  If you transfer too much weight to the left foot, it'll be more of a struggle getting off it." CreationDate="2020-09-28T14:31:30.727" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20810" PostId="10107" Score="0" Text="I come from a Shotokan background, where the cross is fully committed to. Trying to blend it with kickboxing, where rear leg is still bent. Sometimes, I do end up as you say, not fully on the left lead leg. I guess it's a matter of how the cross ends up. If you have the chance to really bring it home with an far-reaching cross, you'll be less ideally positioned to quickly follow up with a lead leg roundhouse to the inner thigh by simply rotating the hips. The hope is that you'll have connected (or at least forced opponent backward), thus allowing for the slower roundhouse. Thanks!" CreationDate="2020-09-28T15:26:01.960" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20811" PostId="66" Score="1" Text="How is your left hand writing? Asking to determine how closely coupled are fine motorics and whole body dexterity." CreationDate="2020-09-28T18:12:21.667" UserId="485" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20812" PostId="10107" Score="0" Text="@user2153235: I fully agree - if you've really driven the cross through, then a back-leg kick is likely to be easier, faster and stronger than a front leg.  The whole jab-cross-[jab-]front-leg-kick thing is more about using the hands as setup for the kick, when you're not really trying to knock down with the hands.  (My background's an old-fashioned style of taekwondo/tangsoodo (I hate to say it, but for a famous reference point, Chuck Norris's style is similar), then a few years of hapkido, half a dozen kyokushin, a bit under a year of Thai boxing, and a few other things....)" CreationDate="2020-09-28T21:01:52.013" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20813" PostId="10107" Score="0" Text="Actually, my last comment was still about front leg roundhouse. But I do drill a combo where the back leg does the roundhouse, though it tends to be to the body.  It's jab, cross, hook, back-round; or jab, cross, back to ready stance for an instant, back-round. In the 2nd combo, the return to ready is more to reset the hips so that it launch the rear round, which is hard to do from a cross position unless you're round-housing low.  I get what you're saying about the arms being a setup for the kick.  And man, your background sounds very well rounded. P.S. What's wrong with Chuck, he's invincibl" CreationDate="2020-09-28T22:05:07.093" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20814" PostId="10106" Score="0" Text="bong hyung e bu? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D9_ytPV6D0 or e dan? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOk3mMmJTI0" CreationDate="2020-09-29T17:37:53.647" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20815" PostId="10106" Score="0" Text="I'm afraid not. That &quot;Sequence A&quot; was a big part of it, repeated several times, including at least once where it was delivered during a pivot to the left (which would match the direction of the first forehand strike)." CreationDate="2020-09-29T18:08:04.823" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20816" PostId="9858" Score="0" Text="@LemmyX falling technique is essential in mountain biking. I fall on average once per whole day of riding." CreationDate="2020-09-30T00:01:34.097" UserId="485" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20817" PostId="10109" Score="3" Text="Do you have a problem with manipulation without anesthesia (exercise)?" CreationDate="2020-09-30T13:09:27.907" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20818" PostId="10108" Score="1" Text="Thanks again, RoundHouse.  I had a chance to parse the information.  Very helpful.  The #2 helps sort out [another question I had](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/10101/which-of-these-2-shuffle-roundhouse-kicks-is-preferrable) about shuffling roundhouses in general, especially with the way in which it is demo'd in the video." CreationDate="2020-10-01T03:25:42.603" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20819" PostId="10106" Score="0" Text="The opening itself doesn't help much, as different styles will often change the opening stances of some katas (with Tang Soo Do and TKD being especially known for &quot;adapting&quot; Japanese kata). However, your &quot;sequence A&quot; is very similar to that found in [Chatan Yara no Kon](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V18qaG_BMcs), where it's done 4-5 times (including one with a pivot). I've seen variations of this kata that include a figure 8 spin at some point, and there is also a large sweeping motion performed by holding the bo from one of its ends. Does Chatan Yara no Kon look familiar to you?" CreationDate="2020-10-01T08:33:45.613" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20821" PostId="10106" Score="0" Text="@Dungarth: It is not the same form, but there are definitely some matching bits. Quite honestly, I have a growing suspicion that one of the teachers at our school invented this form just for our local school so that we would have weapons forms to test on to improve the &quot;cool factor&quot;. Next time I'm at the family home, I'm going to do another trawl of the bookshelves to see if I can find my book of testing material." CreationDate="2020-10-01T12:25:57.507" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20825" PostId="10114" Score="0" Text="Depends, assessing them in what? basics? Padwork? Drills? Forms? Sparring? Weapons?" CreationDate="2020-10-05T07:56:46.150" UserId="8980" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20826" PostId="10114" Score="0" Text="hi @KristinaLex this question has been heavily edited by someone who deleted the entire context included removing the tag self-training. The above is to be frame in an app, not with 1:1 video such as zoom, but as a tool for self training." CreationDate="2020-10-05T11:18:04.567" UserId="10041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20827" PostId="10114" Score="0" Text="@mushcraft: If so, you want that to be in the question." CreationDate="2020-10-05T11:55:45.507" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20828" PostId="10114" Score="1" Text="What does it mean to have self-training with an instructor? That is a contradiction of the definition of the tag." CreationDate="2020-10-05T14:13:34.997" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20829" PostId="10114" Score="1" Text="I edited the question to be your second, non-poll question because that is in scope of the main site, but now we are back to, &quot;please tell me how to create a killer app&quot;. If you have the core idea, why do you need help with marginal features like flashing borders?" CreationDate="2020-10-05T14:20:37.240" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20830" PostId="10114" Score="2" Text="You are also always free to use the [chat room for this site:](https://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/79444/open-roda)." CreationDate="2020-10-05T14:21:41.050" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20831" PostId="10109" Score="1" Text="A fact that should be considered here is that joints (tendons, ligaments) take three to six times longer than muscles to adjust to change in strength or flexibility. Accordingly, forcing muscles to instant flexibility (which in most cases means some extent of injuring the muscles themselves), this makes injuries due to unadjusted joints and connective tissue a real problem, even if and when the muscles are healed. Sometimes, inflexibility also means structural stability the loss of which further stresses the joints and makes them prone for injury. Not a good idea, really." CreationDate="2020-10-05T19:29:15.043" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20832" PostId="10114" Score="1" Text="@mattm `What does it mean to have self-training with an instructor? That is a contradiction of the definition of the tag.` instructor sets drills for you to do in your self-training. Instructor can then review.  `If you have the core idea, why do you need help with marginal features like flashing borders?` because without those features I have the potential of building a app my ideal customer has no use for it." CreationDate="2020-10-06T07:48:21.440" UserId="10041" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20833" PostId="10114" Score="0" Text="I do recommend the chat room. Drop me a comment when you join. I don't always check every day." CreationDate="2020-10-06T18:07:21.143" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20834" PostId="9300" Score="0" Text="Probably because these are amateur sports? The people who engage in them have to go back to work on Monday after a tournament weekend, yknow. How would they do their sales job. in Japan or anywhere else, with a bruised face?" CreationDate="2020-09-26T18:28:01.297" UserId="11025" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20835" PostId="10117" Score="0" Text="You can reply to our suggestions via comments (normally, you'd be limited in comments with your current reputation, but the situation is different when responding to your own question). If you think someone has the correct answer for you, you can accept it by clicking on the checkmark by the voting buttons as per the [tour]." CreationDate="2020-10-08T12:44:22.613" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20836" PostId="10118" Score="0" Text="Yeah, Aikido would be a good one, since it focuses on not injuring your opponent. I've never done it, but I think Taekkyeon would be a good one as well." CreationDate="2020-10-08T14:17:57.437" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20837" PostId="10118" Score="0" Text="I've seen an awful lot of fat Aikidoka. Aikido is not the way of physical fitness. It may depend on the dojo, but most do not emphasize working out. They emphasize Aikido, period. So that should be off the table." CreationDate="2020-10-08T14:59:23.550" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20838" PostId="10118" Score="1" Text="Taekyeon is a very obscure martial art. Do you mean Taekwondo? I guess you're referring to the dance aspect of Taekyeon. But again, very obscure martial art, very hard to find, and quite questionable as to its lineage and authenticity (it was probably resurrected from notes and oral history)." CreationDate="2020-10-08T15:00:01.327" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20839" PostId="10119" Score="1" Text="Not a bad recommendation. I'll just say that capoeira can be very intimidating to begin for a person who's not athletic already. It appeals to those with interest in gymnastics and tricking. But you're right on when it comes to physical fitness and when it comes to not actually connecting and hitting someone. Pretty good choice." CreationDate="2020-10-08T15:04:21.207" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20840" PostId="10118" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand right, Aikido is not usually considered to be a very strenuous martial art. But like you said, it does depend on the dojo, and also, it is what you make of it. Often I hear that at first it is hard, but over time, it becomes quite easy as the technique is meant to minimize strain. However, for starting off, I think it is a good resource" CreationDate="2020-10-08T15:09:33.663" UserId="11094" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20841" PostId="10119" Score="1" Text="Once you get past the intimidation factor and realize that you don't have to do flips (it's really more of a showing off thing), the next step is when you realize how strenuous it can be. There are a lot of low movements that you have to work up to getting the leg and core strength for, and outside of something like boxing, it's one of the better martial arts for cardio because you are constantly moving rather than going form one static stance to the next." CreationDate="2020-10-08T16:06:04.367" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20843" PostId="10117" Score="0" Text="Thank you so much for your replies, it was really clarifying for me! unfortunately i live in a small town and some of the arts you quoted is not practiced here, but some of those are, I'm going to ask to those dojos hucaow they train and choose the one i feel safer, thanks again for your help. Wish you a good day" CreationDate="2020-10-09T19:11:12.663" UserId="11108" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20844" PostId="10124" Score="0" Text="I copied over the transcript contents and then fixed the errors as best I could, not being a *judo* person. My apologies for any errors, but I thought having some text would be useful." CreationDate="2020-10-09T23:54:41.373" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20845" PostId="10122" Score="0" Text="Very nice details. Great pictures." CreationDate="2020-10-10T02:20:11.830" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20846" PostId="10124" Score="1" Text="Are you asking about a canonical judo name, or just a name?" CreationDate="2020-10-10T02:38:21.907" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20847" PostId="10126" Score="0" Text="Maybe I'm missing something, but where do you address saber fighting as per the question?" CreationDate="2020-10-10T20:02:46.133" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20849" PostId="10128" Score="0" Text="How did you build that list of styles? Are those the only ones near you, or are those ones that you personally thought were good or which made sense to you?" CreationDate="2020-10-11T01:39:37.903" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20850" PostId="10128" Score="0" Text="I do some boxing. Never heard of anything called &quot;Southpaw boxing&quot;. What is it? Are you saying you are naturally orthodox (right-handed) and want to do boxing in the southpaw stance? Where did you get this idea from? Give us some details." CreationDate="2020-10-11T01:57:33.683" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20851" PostId="10128" Score="0" Text="Does this question apply to the present or years in the future?" CreationDate="2020-10-11T16:34:15.647" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20852" PostId="10128" Score="0" Text="Ah sorry about that guys I must've really confused you all. This question is applying to what I should do in the future and I also meant southpaw stance boxing not 'Southpaw Boxing' . this is just clarify what I meant and the mistake is on my behalf. hope this clears somethings up." CreationDate="2020-10-11T16:43:55.077" UserId="11113" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20853" PostId="10128" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand I Recently constructed this list as an experiment to see which arts would go great with each other originally . But now I want to actually learn some martial arts and I wanted to see from a more experienced community if this list would work or not." CreationDate="2020-10-11T16:53:48.343" UserId="11113" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20854" PostId="10128" Score="0" Text="@RoundHouse Sorry about that I meant Southpaw stance boxing" CreationDate="2020-10-11T16:58:11.410" UserId="11113" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20855" PostId="10129" Score="0" Text="Boxing and judo are great starting points for MMA." CreationDate="2020-10-11T19:29:11.213" UserId="1978" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20856" PostId="10132" Score="1" Text="This answer is correct to the best of my limited knowledge on the subject." CreationDate="2020-10-13T17:22:19.593" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20857" PostId="10126" Score="0" Text="@MacacoBranco I noticed that other posters mentioned ai uchi as mythology, and wanted to comment on that, with comparisons to other traditions.  Chinese saber, like straight sword, involves every counter having a counter.  (In the Chinese heroic literature, &quot;halberds&quot; are the dominant battlefield weapon--polearm with curved blade.)  I do have experience in western saber, but can't comment on that b/c there isn't a tradition of mutual death, so far as I can discern.  Other answers have commented on &quot;taking a hit&quot; to deliver a strike.  Ui Ichi seems to be distinct to the Japanese tradition." CreationDate="2020-10-13T19:34:22.063" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20858" PostId="10126" Score="0" Text="@MacacoBranco I think it's also relevant b/c, real in practice or no,  ai uchi could definitely be said to represent a samurai ideal, unique to that tradition.  (Interestingly, Musashi probably didn't subscribe to this idea in that he was willing to break traditions to achieve victory by any means, which I understand was considered controversial.)  But it makes sense though that the ideal might have been influenced by him, especially the idea of the &quot;no self&quot; Zen warrior in that Five Rings predates the Hagakure.  (Thanks for your comment btw—always useful to have to defend:)" CreationDate="2020-10-14T00:06:41.083" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20859" PostId="8877" Score="0" Text="Is there anything more that we can add to the answer?" CreationDate="2020-10-14T14:21:15.900" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20860" PostId="8468" Score="1" Text="@JohnP: Late comment, but situations like that are one of the arguments for training flips in martial arts or parkour, namely that there will come a time when you find yourself inverted, and training to automatically react to get your feet under you or at least minimize damage is important, if not at the level of learning how to do simple falls." CreationDate="2020-10-14T15:24:55.130" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20861" PostId="10134" Score="1" Text="When you refer to grappling in this question, are you specifically refering to grappling on the ground? Is there a reason you are specifically contrasting with judo?" CreationDate="2020-10-15T03:11:44.957" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20862" PostId="10124" Score="0" Text="Yes, if it have one." CreationDate="2020-10-15T07:17:04.013" UserId="10811" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20863" PostId="8933" Score="1" Text="I see. While it's a cool trick, it seems to carry quite a bit of risk. Thus it's maybe not a particularly useful maneuver." CreationDate="2020-10-15T09:39:26.320" UserId="9359" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20864" PostId="10135" Score="3" Text="Yep, especially on the last paragraph. &quot;But I could hit/eye-gouge/pressure point you now&quot; - &quot;And so could I, from a superior position/situation&quot;. Having a grip on clothing makes it exceedingly difficult to strike for the opponent if one knows how to use it. IMHO, it's being bare-chested that diminishes the importance of grappling in MMA most." CreationDate="2020-10-15T11:13:43.153" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20865" PostId="8933" Score="0" Text="{nods} Honestly, the only real point of using it in a fight is to show off, maybe scaring someone else off. Or, as in Capoeira and Professional Wrestling, you have someone willing to work with you to make it more impressive, or at least not actively try to trip you up." CreationDate="2020-10-15T16:20:08.750" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20866" PostId="10135" Score="0" Text="I always figured the best defense against a grappler was to tap out and then start punching him when he reflexively releases the grapple. :-D" CreationDate="2020-10-15T17:01:03.357" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20867" PostId="10135" Score="0" Text="@MacacoBranco Jokes aside, if they try to submit you from a position where they cannot punch you way easier than you can possibly punch them, they deserve being pummeled. ;) When you tap while I'm not even trying to submit, there is certainly going to be this &quot;seriously?&quot; glance coupled with me happily taking the invitation :P" CreationDate="2020-10-15T20:45:12.360" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20868" PostId="9548" Score="0" Text="@RoundHouse Bit of a necro, but there is a &quot;wall block&quot; in Krav Maga where you cover behind your forearm, with your elbow pointing to the front and the flat hand around the back of your head. This covers a lot without relying on gloves and is comparatively safe. But it is **never** used without attacking *at the same time*. The video in the OP is complete nonsense. But what can you expect from &quot;ultimate king fu&quot; with the biggest boxing gloves available?" CreationDate="2020-10-15T20:56:15.097" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20869" PostId="10136" Score="1" Text="Good answer.  I was going to suggest that going to the ground where there are multiple attackers is suicide (kicked and stomped to unconsciousness, if not worse.)  My sense is that a Jujitsu expert could still prevail against multiple attackers, but it would involve joint locks and breaks, not going to the ground." CreationDate="2020-10-15T20:59:12.487" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20871" PostId="10135" Score="1" Text="Good answer.  No longer predominant: https://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/22277062/how-mma-fights-end-submission-victories-way-down   (One comment is that a piece of broken glass is even more effective than gouges.  Most systems include some groundwork, but there is very strong indication that going to the ground in many real world situations, those involving multiple attackers, is not good strategy. I was advised by my own teacher to &quot;hit them in the head with a brick&quot; as optimal in real world situations—a euphemism, but sound strategy, as most people who train are not professonals:)" CreationDate="2020-10-15T21:07:45.087" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20872" PostId="10135" Score="0" Text="I think we also have to make a distinction between world class competitors who devote their entire lives to training, like Kayla Harrison, and the average practitioner.  The latter are far less of a threat." CreationDate="2020-10-15T21:10:16.923" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20873" PostId="10135" Score="0" Text="There was some recent research that Chinese military in the Ching era promoted Mongolian wrestling so that troops could hold matches among themselves with less chance of serious injury than striking or dueling with weapons.  (I think it was Peter A. Lorge, &quot;Chinese Martial Arts: From Antiquity to the Twenty-First Century&quot;)" CreationDate="2020-10-15T21:33:51.693" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20874" PostId="10134" Score="0" Text="@mattm BJJ seemed to be the biggest early influence the modern sport, and my understanding is that BJJ was heavily influenced by Judo.  The &quot;conversation&quot; between Judo and Jujitsu in the Japanese arts, and the range of applications outside of sport, is also a subject of interest.  But, yes, here &quot;grappling&quot; in the context of MMA refers to groundwork.  Also inspired by Kayla Harrison's recent matches, the submission victories in particular." CreationDate="2020-10-15T21:40:51.587" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20875" PostId="10135" Score="0" Text="&quot;Professional competitors in the modern era, particularly at the elite level, rely less on grappling than striking.&quot; Are you including the &quot;ground and pound&quot; in this statement?" CreationDate="2020-10-16T04:59:35.340" UserId="10372" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20876" PostId="10135" Score="0" Text="@nick012000 Not explicitly, but yes. In fact my examples of grapplers (GSP, Khabib, Usman) don't actually use a take-down-and-submit gameplan; they are primarily focused on striking from top positions. Yes, they take a submission if possible, but that really only happens after someone has been sufficiently stunned or mentally broken by strikes." CreationDate="2020-10-16T07:03:42.767" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20877" PostId="10135" Score="0" Text="@DukeZhou &quot;Hitting with a brick&quot; is an excuse, not a strategy. And broken glass is much more troublesome for the person who hasn't trained grappling, because the grappler will be the one on top. The same goes for multiple-attacker scenarios: who will be better able to resist being thrown to the ground, the wrestler/judoka who trains takedowns every week, or the person who doesn't train takedowns because they want to stand and strike? Training enables strategies, it doesn't predetermine them." CreationDate="2020-10-16T07:13:31.547" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20878" PostId="10136" Score="1" Text="@DukeZhou One is certainly more comfortable and capable to remain control, asses the situation, and act accordingly on the ground as a trained grappler compared to a pure striker who a) cannot really cope with being grabbed and moved around violently in the first place and b) is even more lost when being on the ground. It is not about voluntarily going to the ground (like sport BJJ butt-shoving), it is about being able to cope with situations and remain control. And yes, a grappler does strike, throw and break in multiple-attacker scenarios as much as possible, even if ending up on the ground." CreationDate="2020-10-16T09:58:53.010" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20879" PostId="10135" Score="0" Text="Dave, I think you're conflating the sport with real world situations.  That was part of the intent of this question.  And &quot;standing and striking&quot; is not what is meant by good foot work." CreationDate="2020-10-16T21:05:13.290" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20885" PostId="10135" Score="0" Text="I know masters who are expert grapplers and still don't emphasize it their systems, seeing it as more of a specialized art, not practical for the needs of their general student population." CreationDate="2020-10-16T22:17:56.203" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20887" PostId="10143" Score="0" Text="The reasoning in this answer applies equally well to xingyi." CreationDate="2020-10-16T22:20:31.537" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20888" PostId="10135" Score="0" Text="A good example might be the street fight Gozo Shioda credits with his martial epiphany.  In it, confronted with three attackers who could have had weapons, he breaks an arm, breaks a leg, and finishes the third with a punch.  I have no doubt that if it had been Masahiko Kimura, he would have pursued a similar strategy in that situation." CreationDate="2020-10-17T04:27:45.197" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20889" PostId="10143" Score="0" Text="@mattm agreed, but xingyi can be tough on the knees, especially the way I was taught to practice when younger, which involves agile footwork &amp; full power stomping for each move.  As I got older, I started using much lighter footwork and not executing the stomps. Xingyi focusing is also not considered healthy as one gets into middle age, but my teacher learned to focus by punching a curtain lightly a &quot;thousand thousand&quot; times.  My sense is that teachers, especially younger teachers, may not always be cognizant of the physical risks to an older student" CreationDate="2020-10-17T04:33:59.847" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20892" PostId="10135" Score="0" Text="@DukeZhou I don't know what point you're trying to make, or where you think I conflate anything. But in general, I recommend people distrust any story from an aikidoka that isn't on video. I mean, many aikidoka believe that Ueshiba used teleportation to win a fight." CreationDate="2020-10-17T08:29:31.257" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20898" PostId="10154" Score="0" Text="Great answer, thanks for the examples!" CreationDate="2020-10-20T14:57:01.967" UserId="11131" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20900" PostId="10156" Score="0" Text="Do you not use mats?" CreationDate="2020-10-20T17:22:49.357" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20901" PostId="10156" Score="0" Text="No. Unless we're training flips, we generally don't use mats in class. Which... I realize I never said what style I was training. :-D" CreationDate="2020-10-20T18:00:03.877" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20902" PostId="10156" Score="0" Text="Maybe you should consider some light mats. They  are much easier to clean and don't really interfere with your movements. https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/9828/are-eva-foam-mats-good-for-training/9829#9829" CreationDate="2020-10-20T18:55:55.567" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20903" PostId="10154" Score="2" Text="You could argue that there are rules taht reduce the risk for *failed* takedown shots by prohibiting stomping/kicking downed opponents, so they enable more takedown attempts because you won't get 'punished' as severely if you fail to take the opponent down." CreationDate="2020-10-20T20:11:37.623" UserId="3130" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20904" PostId="10156" Score="1" Text="Never had to worry about this, so I'm not sure. You'll probably just need to use a hardwood floor cleaner (liquid) with a hardwood floor mop. Buy a small amount and test in a small area first to see what happens. If it's not going away with that, you might end up just having to do a full clean, buff/sand, restain, and refinish. But that should be overkill for a simple sweat stain. Sweat is more of a problem for hardwood floors if the floors don't have any finish protecting them anymore, like if it's worn away over time. Then you definitely need to do this extra work." CreationDate="2020-10-20T20:52:34.357" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20905" PostId="10154" Score="0" Text="@Peteris that's a great point. Shooting under Pride rules was very different, and forced a lot of wrestlers to pull guard instead of staying turtled after their shot failed." CreationDate="2020-10-21T09:51:41.230" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20906" PostId="10151" Score="0" Text="Thanks for this answer!  (Am I correct in recalling that after the first Gracie/Yoshida match, there was renewed focus in BJJ on strengthening some of the judo techniques?)" CreationDate="2020-10-21T22:12:37.513" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20911" PostId="8905" Score="0" Text="@mattm I don't &quot;how/why&quot;; that's why I asked the question in the first place. As for the facts themselves, #1 is common knowledge. I could not find it and do not remember where I first heard it. It's like trying to google how many legs a horses has; it would be very difficult to find a &quot;source&quot; for such a fact. The closest thing I found was https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3706825/#__sec6title which says amateurs suffer less brain damage. #2 is a study which is cited in several news articles like this one: https://www.wired.com/2016/08/olympic-boxers-arent-wearing-headgear-anymore/" CreationDate="2020-10-22T09:07:04.987" UserId="9949" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20914" PostId="10154" Score="1" Text="Maybe it would be worth specifying what &quot;being in the wrestler's world&quot; actually means, ie. that people going for shots usually are the superior grapplers and that if you do not focus staying on your own two feet and try strikes instead you will be on the ground quite fast. Not only that, as soon as the direct knee fails, you will probably be out of balance, which makes it impossible to strike with meaningful force, same for striking from below on the ground. That's also the main reason why real world fights are often decided in clinch and ground situations IMHO." CreationDate="2020-10-23T20:55:45.507" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20916" PostId="10153" Score="1" Text="There are a lot of good takes on how the sport would change if certain rules were banned. One rule that isn't mentioned so often is the ban on eye-gouging. It's probably just obvious, but it's what I think of most when I see a prolonged position against the cage or in guard. A lot of grappling doesn't leave the eyes exposed, so it's not like street rules would make wrestling obsolete (hell, medieval knights did double legs), but it would change the dynamics a lot." CreationDate="2020-10-23T23:32:22.667" UserId="10450" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20917" PostId="10154" Score="2" Text="Khabib dodging the counter knee in that split second is beautiful." CreationDate="2020-10-23T23:36:47.050" UserId="10450" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20926" PostId="10153" Score="1" Text="@BatWannaBe True, I think that in real world scenario it also depends on the severity of the 'altercation'. In most scenarios you want to just neutralize your opponent but also avoid going to the trial or jail for making him for example lose his eye sight. So that may be also the reason why one also won't go for the eyes if the situation is not kill or get killed." CreationDate="2020-10-25T08:20:34.200" UserId="11131" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20928" PostId="10161" Score="1" Text="Comments should be used for clarifications or improvement of the question, not answers." CreationDate="2020-10-25T19:35:35.790" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20930" PostId="10163" Score="0" Text="I've watched quite a few of his videos, I had no idea that's what ended his fighting career. If some extra tape can do that, might as well start handing out brass knuckles; unarmed combat sports should be unarmed" CreationDate="2020-10-26T05:25:12.527" UserId="10450" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20931" PostId="10163" Score="1" Text="@BatWannaBe: my understanding was that it was a bit closer to a few players of tape on top of something soaked into the lower levels of tape to turn them into something more rigid and heavier. But yeah, also surprised me to learn that his deliberate speech pattern is because otherwise he loses track of what he's saying." CreationDate="2020-10-26T10:38:09.663" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20932" PostId="10164" Score="0" Text="Great insights on the economic dimension, including risk of breaking the hand!" CreationDate="2020-10-27T00:18:40.670" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20933" PostId="10163" Score="0" Text="This is a great angle, but can we truly say injuries overall would be reduced by removing even the minimal protection of gloves?  (My sense of the overall evolution of MMA as a popular sport, out of the old-school &quot;Gracie Rules&quot; which are a better gauge and closer to real-world combat, was the need to reduce risk of serious injuries in the ring.  I recall that, at one point, it was difficult to find states that would allow the matches.)" CreationDate="2020-10-27T00:22:20.990" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20934" PostId="9441" Score="0" Text="Great point about parrying daggers—my understanding is that they were highly effective back in the day.  Chinese practice also has a tradition of dual straight swords, although, in my experience, while there are a number of techniques that can only be applied with 2 swords, the formal forms are much less rich than single sword.  (Sometimes I practice single sword forms with a second sword for fun &amp; research.)  My teacher also liked to practice long sword, and  double handed sword one-handed, with a light weapon with different balance in the off hand, just for the sheer difficulty." CreationDate="2020-10-27T00:29:05.253" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20935" PostId="10163" Score="2" Text="@DukeZhou Truthfully, there's a lot of give and take, kind of like how [heavyweight boxers are more likely to get knocked out, but lightweight boxers are more likely to suffer overall brain trauma](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/4455/1780) because they suffer lighter impacts, but they have longer fights where they get hit more. Similarly, no gloves/wraps means people can't hit quite a hard, but that means the fights are less likely to end by knockout. Or maybe it will be more knockouts by knee and elbow." CreationDate="2020-10-27T00:44:33.647" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20936" PostId="976" Score="0" Text="Excellent answer.  The photo of the Chen master demonstrating slide step with the student particularly instructive, as it is easy to discern the teacher's perfect alignment and relaxation in that stance.  (Also note that the student's left foot is almost, but not perfectly flat.)  Once that stance becomes relaxing, one is surely on the right track, just be sure not to be tense or it will wreck your knees!" CreationDate="2020-10-27T00:51:43.577" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20937" PostId="10164" Score="0" Text="Also theorising at this point, but from what I've seen of Bas Rutten in Pancrase, it's possible open-handed strikes would replace the jab. It's a shaky theory for sure because closed fisted strikes against the head were BANNED, probably due to the lack of gloves and wraps. It's hard to use that to say what would happen if punches were allowed. (Also the widespread opinion that Pancrase had fixes; I have no solid proof on specific fights, but sometimes it sure looked like it)." CreationDate="2020-10-27T00:52:44.813" UserId="10450" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20938" PostId="8334" Score="0" Text="I'm a long time Tai Chi practitioner and have used heavy objects and weapons in this manner, for similar purposes.  Where many practitioner eschew heavy weapons, partially for high likelihood of joint damage, I've found that, when using the internal principles, where movement comes from the waist, joint damage does not occur.  So a good general answer, even if not specific to tai chi.  Also worth noting that my teacher would do double handed jian single handed by employing internal principles to control the longer, heavier weapon lightly." CreationDate="2020-10-27T01:02:06.650" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20939" PostId="10164" Score="1" Text="@BatWannaBe: While palm-strikes certainly will occur, I, personally, deem them a poor substitution for proper jabs. Firstly, because there still is quite the chance to still break some (wrist-)bones or of other injuries, eg. ripping your hand at the opponent's nasal bone. That is if you strike and you mean it. Secondly, it may not seem like much, but the loss of range from a normal jab to palm-strike is meaningful when it comes to range-control. These few inches do a lot regarding the danger of knees, elbows, or clinch. Thirdly, for a trained grappler, open hands can be caught much easier." CreationDate="2020-10-27T08:45:01.273" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20940" PostId="10164" Score="0" Text="That's a good point; I can imagine my wrist hyperextending if I miss and hit with anywhere above the heel. Traditional martial arts including very early bare-knuckle boxing certainly didn't replace all punches with palm strikes." CreationDate="2020-10-27T09:18:38.067" UserId="10450" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20941" PostId="10163" Score="2" Text="If they ever do ban gloves and wraps for realism, I predict there would be a spike in career-halting hand injuries that gradually goes away as people adjust their striking" CreationDate="2020-10-27T09:19:07.317" UserId="10450" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20942" PostId="10165" Score="0" Text="Google Fu:&#xA;https://internalwudangmartialarts.com/2016/05/27/why-chinese-swords-jian-always-have-tassels/&#xA;https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-usage-of-the-red-tassel-usually-seen-hanging-from-Chinese-jian-swords" CreationDate="2020-10-27T13:58:44.233" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20943" PostId="8722" Score="0" Text="Ball-sports &amp; dancing @MikeP. Sports which require the practitioner to catch, throw, and maneuver and object (ball, stick, paddle, etc...) are a great way to improve hand-eye coordination and environmental awareness. And dancing, whether via shaking hips while cooking dinner, or mixing up foot / hip positioning during one's running or walking, even more elaborate manoevers that challenge balance and timing (gymnastic, ballet, skateboarding) can do a lot to help build awareness of one's own forces and how they interact with the surrounding world" CreationDate="2020-10-28T00:03:53.013" UserId="9638" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20946" PostId="7507" Score="0" Text="Good answer.  I remember reading somewhere fairly credible that Hsing Yi may be the oldest of the internal arts, having potentially been practiced in some form as much as 2,000 years ago.  But history is unreliable, especially on this subject, the farther back we go!" CreationDate="2020-10-28T02:09:05.867" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20947" PostId="10165" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand Good link, but, like most sources on the arts, not entirely reliable. [Major Methods of Wudang Sword](https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Major_Methods_of_Wudang_Sword.html?id=uP1ZnSTsVCEC), for instance, features no tassels, nor any mentions of tassel, if I recall correctly.  Weichardt is correct overall about usages, with various omissions, but no explication, and no cautions against certain &quot;crowd pleasing&quot; tricks one might see. Also omits long tassel, which is not surprising, in that it's much more rarely taught &amp; practiced." CreationDate="2020-10-28T02:20:53.467" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20948" PostId="10169" Score="1" Text="Why a euphemism?" CreationDate="2020-10-28T03:47:28.143" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20949" PostId="10172" Score="1" Text="This doesn't feel like it adds much to the current answers, and feels more like an expression of opinion. Welcome to the site, but we need something a bit more substantive." CreationDate="2020-10-31T14:56:24.793" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20950" PostId="10173" Score="1" Text="My answer at the following link goes over some of what you want to know: https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/2886/is-there-any-iwuf-compliant-material-of-wushu-techniques-and-forms-for-reference/2888#2888" CreationDate="2020-11-01T23:39:08.053" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20951" PostId="8722" Score="0" Text="Great; you should expand your answer with the extra detail." CreationDate="2020-11-02T15:27:27.260" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20952" PostId="7650" Score="0" Text="Maybe because of no pyjamas and belts in different colors?" CreationDate="2020-11-02T16:16:32.283" UserId="1978" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20954" PostId="8722" Score="0" Text="Technically hasn't that already been done via the comment @MikeP? Feel free to edit my answer if you think it should include the additional detail." CreationDate="2020-11-02T16:47:49.503" UserId="9638" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20955" PostId="10169" Score="0" Text="@mattm Euphemism b/c &quot;kung fu&quot; used as a label for Chinese martial arts is not literal, compared, for instance to Wushu.  Bruce Lee notably used both &quot;Kung Fu&quot; and &quot;Chinese Boxing&quot;, and my sense is he used the latter term to refer specifically to the Chinese system of martial arts in all of its variety." CreationDate="2020-11-03T02:33:51.997" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20958" PostId="1134" Score="0" Text="I've found that there's nothing traditional nearly as effective as a little ibuprofen, a clinically validated anti-inflammatory.  (Avoid taking on an empty stomach!)" CreationDate="2020-11-03T04:35:45.107" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20959" PostId="10179" Score="1" Text="I think I remember some people being mad at him because he actually hit them in a documentary, maybe even including Jackie Chan. Which was to highlight that he wanted to show real fighting in his later films. That being said, another point there was that Lee had no style. It was &quot;fighting with what is effective&quot;. Which is why he studied fencing and latin dance to improve his footwork, for example. So I'd question some premises of the question." CreationDate="2020-11-03T08:33:18.610" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20960" PostId="10182" Score="1" Text="Welcome to MartialArts.StackExchange! That was a perfect question, but what this answer adds to those already existing?" CreationDate="2020-11-03T10:24:05.433" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20961" PostId="10179" Score="1" Text="Regarding him actually hitting people, my understanding is that that's still much more common in Asian fight choreography, where stunt extras specifically get paid to get hit full force, which is actually a deal for them because normally they only get paid if the footage they're in is used." CreationDate="2020-11-03T12:56:11.707" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20962" PostId="10179" Score="1" Text="Probably a mix. White Crane kung-fu is reportedly his primary &quot;influence&quot;, though I'm not sure he had any formal training in it. He is reported to have studied a bunch of martial arts from books, movie clips, photos, etc. His trademark noises &quot;Wazaaa!&quot; are supposed to be from white crane as well. As is his trademark wings flapping move he does." CreationDate="2020-11-03T20:31:18.723" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20964" PostId="10186" Score="1" Text="I think the proper spelling is&quot;Rasslin' is the correct spelling ;)" CreationDate="2020-11-05T00:38:49.307" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20965" PostId="7650" Score="0" Text="As I recall, there were some MMA contenders that had a [western wrestling background](https://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/The-Hit-List-Olympic-Medalists-Who-Have-Competed-in-MMA-134233)." CreationDate="2020-11-05T00:40:07.553" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20966" PostId="7651" Score="0" Text="Dave Bautista did a kung fu movie (Master Z) and was quite convincing in his application of wrestling moves.  Choreography for sure, but I'm pretty sure a real life piledriver from Bautista, especially on concrete, would be quite lethal!" CreationDate="2020-11-05T00:43:32.627" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20967" PostId="5928" Score="0" Text="There has been a definite reconstruction movement in western medieval weapons combat!  The History channel show [Knight Fight](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9454974/) was quite interesting, and medieval western fight choreography, like Hollywood fight choreography in general, has been experiencing a renaissance, no doubt largely due to all the modern research." CreationDate="2020-11-05T01:34:36.690" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20968" PostId="10189" Score="0" Text="Good answer. Firearms became dominant in the west much earlier than in the east, which is surely why the Asian arts persisted into modern times intact.  In Japan, this was by government policy in their [period of isolation during the Tokugawa period](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakoku).  Also important to recognize that western culture had martial sports such as [Pankration](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pankration), which is an ancient form of MMA." CreationDate="2020-11-05T01:39:46.513" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20969" PostId="10182" Score="0" Text="perhaps one's viewpoint" CreationDate="2020-11-05T13:46:21.010" UserId="11071" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20970" PostId="10192" Score="0" Text="Pretty good answer over all, but just a note is that having intuition isn't the same as knowing the answer to a question." CreationDate="2020-11-05T19:56:03.677" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20971" PostId="10191" Score="1" Text="That's the No True Scotsman fallacy applied to kung-fu. Yes, the Chinese government cracked down on traditional kung-fu. No, it didn't get wiped out. It stayed alive and well in China. And it also spread to other countries outside of China's influence. The reason why traditional wushu is getting beat by MMA is that MMA is better than traditional wushu ever was at teaching people how to fight. That's because traditional wushu always had the wrong focus and wrong theories about how to train properly for fighting. There was never a &quot;golden age&quot; of traditional wushu, better than MMA." CreationDate="2020-11-05T23:54:24.163" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20972" PostId="10191" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand That's a very good point. Books may have been destroyed, but the lineages persisted, and thrived in many forms.  (Lazy mentions Li &amp; Chan, but it must be noted that there is a direct lineage from [Wong Fei-Hung to Lau Kar-Leung](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lau_Kar-leung#Personal_life), and that's just one of many examples.  The lack of Chinese competitors in MMA likely reflects the less perilous economic avenues competition Wushu and film work.  And, as my own Sifu made sure to reinforce, you can't learn Gong Fu from a book." CreationDate="2020-11-06T01:45:14.540" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20973" PostId="10190" Score="0" Text="I'm going to hold off on accepting, just to see if anything else pops up, but this is an excellent &amp; comprehensive answer, consistent with my own understanding.  (Do you have any thoughts on the integration of gymnastics over recent decades, and the function of standardization and compulsory forms to facilitate judging in competition? &#xA; My sense is part of the motive of the contemporary style is hope of one day becoming an Olympic sport.)" CreationDate="2020-11-06T01:51:56.647" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20974" PostId="10191" Score="0" Text="@DukeZhou No, it's not that MMA is less lucrative. It's that traditional wushu (&quot;real&quot;, classical, old style kung-fu) got it wrong. They never figured out that learning to fight means you need to get as close as possible to a fight, without injuring each other. And keep doing that day after day. That will end up looking like MMA if it's done right. Instead, traditional wushu went off on things like forms, chi-kung, stance training, iron shirt / golden bell / and iron palm, etc.  It simply doesn't work. Better than nothing, but it fails when put to the test." CreationDate="2020-11-06T01:55:06.733" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20975" PostId="10190" Score="1" Text="@DukeZhou Gymnastics training goes hand in hand with contemporary wushu training. Wushu teachers are not very good at teaching things like aerials and flip-flops. For that, you need the best, and that's a proper gymnastics coach. The best wushu competitors also train in gymnastics. But it must eventually be &quot;expressed&quot; with a martial accent. And that's fine. That is what contemporary wushu is moving towards: Being able to push the boundaries of human performance. All good!" CreationDate="2020-11-06T01:59:56.197" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20976" PostId="10191" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand If we take boxing historically, it was traditionally a career path for people coming from poverty, without other economic opportunities.  (&quot;Punch Drunk&quot; was how we described it before we knew about traumatic brain injury.)  My sense is that San Shou was de-emphasized in Chinese competition, potentially *because* it's unhealthy.  Chinese Kungfu films go back to the 1920's, and have always been a career path for practitioners.  (Most prizefighters don't make much money, and champions are few.  It's a pretty high price to pay, and look at the toll it took on Muhammad Ali.)" CreationDate="2020-11-06T02:01:00.760" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20977" PostId="10191" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand With MMA we're talking about a very specific sport, with rules and prohibitions, not real world combat.  And the idea about avoiding close fighting breaks down in regard to Wudang systems (Tai Chi, Pakau, HsingYi, which are all entirely about very close fighting and body to body contact, just with an emphasis on breaks, and strikes to soft tissue such as the throat and eyes and groin.  Many HsingYi forms heavily utilize stomps.  WuDang sword relies on allowing the opponent's blade to get within a few inches of the body, &amp; was explicated by the last generation of sword fighters.)" CreationDate="2020-11-06T02:02:38.867" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20978" PostId="10191" Score="0" Text="@DukeZhou Well I think you're wrong on all those points. You haven't figured something out. But arguing about it here isn't the right place. And I'm very time limited. These 2 past answers of mine may help explain things:&#xA;&#xA;https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/4806/are-there-any-effective-kung-fu-fighters-in-mma/4807#4807&#xA;&#xA;https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/3029/is-jun-chong-tkd-a-legitimate-tkd-dojo-for-self-defense/3030#3030" CreationDate="2020-11-06T02:18:30.717" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20979" PostId="10191" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand Thanks for those links.  You make good points in regard to the sport of MMA specifically, which is highly specialized." CreationDate="2020-11-06T02:23:09.460" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20980" PostId="4809" Score="0" Text="Good answer.  I'd also mention [Shuai jiao](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shuai_jiao), which doesn't seem to be taught as frequently as other Chinese systems." CreationDate="2020-11-06T02:28:07.807" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20981" PostId="5114" Score="0" Text="@DavidRTribble Very good point.  I studied with a Chinese practitioner of note, with the lineage originating in real combat a few generations back, and was advised that the best strategy for real world situations is to &quot;pick up a brick and hit them in the head&quot;.  I'm never overly concerned about an opponent of my weight, but, because I was skinny most of my life, and of average height, the real world situations where I had to defend myself always seemed to involve people bigger and stronger than myself, which required quite vicious response if I couldn't disengage." CreationDate="2020-11-06T02:31:16.427" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20982" PostId="10194" Score="0" Text="Not a full duplicate, but https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/216/going-up-on-the-ball-of-the-foot-for-a-front-snap-kick/452#452 has some good answers." CreationDate="2020-11-06T14:50:22.303" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20983" PostId="10199" Score="0" Text="I don't recall ever seeing Lee do a double or single leg takedown. I wonder why. He was exposed to Judo, must have seen wrestling!" CreationDate="2020-11-06T16:16:35.487" UserId="11151" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20984" PostId="10200" Score="1" Text="Fighters don't change strategies based on their opponents size?" CreationDate="2020-11-06T22:53:03.133" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20985" PostId="10200" Score="1" Text="They certainly must change their own strategy to fit their and their opponent's strengths and weaknesses. But I said that MMA isn't optimized to fight at your own weight class. As if to say, hey, our stuff won't work unless your opponent is +/- 10 pounds from you. As if to say your basic arm bar no longer works just because the guy is 2 weight classes up. It still works. You'll need to be quicker, smoother, and stronger when applying it on that guy than you would necessarily have to when applying it on someone of the same weight class as you but the same skill level as that guy." CreationDate="2020-11-06T23:06:55.200" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20986" PostId="10200" Score="0" Text="Perhaps I'm reading more into the original question from Duke. But there is a tendency for traditionalists who ask this question to conclude or imply that MMA is not as good as their traditional martial arts for the street, because MMA is optimized for sport rules. They would argue that the rules of MMA (including weight classes) means that it's dangerous to use for real fights and self-defense. I disagree. But that's a much larger discussion." CreationDate="2020-11-06T23:11:12.157" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20987" PostId="10198" Score="0" Text="Marco, thanks for this answer.  (I'm going to hold off accepting to see if anything else pops up, but you've fully answered my question, your point about momentum especially, in that it sheds light on how to use this strategic technique properly.)" CreationDate="2020-11-06T23:26:06.950" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20988" PostId="10200" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand The true intent of my question was to suggest that the introduction of weight classes facilitated the contemporary sport, which is undeniably the dominant combat sport in this era, as have other rule changes since the introduction of the modern sport, spearheaded by the Gracies, surely have.  (I quite like the idea that Harrison could dominate any living grappler, regardless of weight class:)" CreationDate="2020-11-06T23:30:16.107" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20989" PostId="10200" Score="0" Text="But I'm also skeptical of the idea that Judo &amp; BJJ would be applied in the same manner, with the same strategies, in the ring as on the streets.   Not a matter of those arts not being effective and complete in any circumstance, but the recognition that sport competition is specialized, and distinct from real-world combat." CreationDate="2020-11-06T23:33:25.200" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20990" PostId="10200" Score="2" Text="@DukeZhou We know that size matters from countless numbers of fights. We know that in order for a smaller person to defeat a larger person reliably, it requires that the smaller person have more skill. Those are facts. It's exciting when a smaller opponent defeats a bigger one. Spectators love it. But it's very rare these days. MMA today is so competitive. In the early days before MMA was even a thing, the skill levels were radically different. You had people who were absolutely delusional about their ability to fight. It's no wonder smaller more skilled people defeated bigger opponents." CreationDate="2020-11-06T23:39:49.987" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20991" PostId="10198" Score="0" Text="No worries, glad to help. Did you check out that other question too?" CreationDate="2020-11-06T23:40:27.227" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20992" PostId="10198" Score="1" Text="I did, and I understand now why I didn't find it in search—I was using &quot;toes&quot; instead of &quot;ball&quot;, but I'm glad this also served as a caution against the bad habit of going up on toes, as opposed to the legitimate technique of going up on the ball of the foot." CreationDate="2020-11-06T23:44:00.303" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20993" PostId="10200" Score="0" Text="No doubt that most martial artists greatly overestimate their capabilities (which is probably why so many teacher tell their students to avoid fights. I remember early on thinking I was a hot shot, and getting set straight in short order by my older martial brothers;)  It's also undeniable that MMA has forced practitioners of all styles to train against takedowns, even if they are not grapplers.  Thus it has to be recognized that modern MMA has pushed combat-oriented martial arts forward significantly, arguably more so than any other practice in the modern era." CreationDate="2020-11-06T23:52:26.503" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20994" PostId="10197" Score="0" Text="Good answer.  Contemporary Wushu is designed with the aspiration of one day becoming an Olympic sport.  (Interesting that rhythmic gymnastics is, but wushu so far is not.)  My sense is the primary driver of the evolution of contemporary Wushu is to facilitate judging, and resemble other Olympic sports that involve judging a performance (such as ice skating and gymnastics.)" CreationDate="2020-11-07T00:00:12.800" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20995" PostId="10191" Score="0" Text="Also found this, which undercuts that Chinese arts can't be competitive in MMA: https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/5114/7644" CreationDate="2020-11-07T00:02:42.640" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20996" PostId="10205" Score="2" Text="This does not answer the question why techniques forbidden in other martial arts because of risk of injury, for example leg scissors in Judo, do not seem to cause injuries in MMA although they **are allowed**." CreationDate="2020-11-07T07:17:58.447" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20997" PostId="10173" Score="0" Text="Taking basic gymnastics courses is the open door to studying wushu." CreationDate="2020-11-07T06:34:06.477" UserId="10877" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20998" PostId="10194" Score="0" Text="The main reason kickboxers or MT fighters go up on the balls of their foot while throwing the roundhouse is that it helps with faster pivoting, which essentially translates to more power. Note that going up on the toes is a result of the momentum of the head kick bringing the striker in the air. That happens after pivoting on the balls of the foot." CreationDate="2020-11-08T07:52:33.860" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="20999" PostId="10187" Score="0" Text="I don't understand your argument about safety and the cage. How are you proposing the contestants be prevented from moving ever backwards? You need a wall-like barrier of some sort, otherwise you get people running/falling out of (and into!) the fighting area." CreationDate="2020-11-08T15:35:15.897" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21000" PostId="10195" Score="1" Text="Other combat sports have tried to avoid weight classes for a time. Kyokushin karate, judo, and BJJ all have robust open-weight competitions. The results are instructive: usually the heavier competitor wins, but smaller fighters have been lucky or skilled enough to overcome disparities." CreationDate="2020-11-08T15:37:55.003" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21002" PostId="10202" Score="1" Text="I don't understand the second question. You are asking whether removing the gi in MMA is good for BJJ and judo in MMA?" CreationDate="2020-11-08T16:22:15.170" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21003" PostId="10209" Score="0" Text="He states in the question that he's looking for a &quot;hand and a half&quot;." CreationDate="2020-11-10T02:49:59.360" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21004" PostId="10209" Score="0" Text="I suspect you lived up to your name, LazyReader. I specifically asked for buying guides or resources for acquiring sharp, functional swords. Oakeshot's typology, while useful, doesn't really apply here.&#xA;&#xA;Also, the idea that brutal sword play is performed by bastard swords shows a distinct lack of appreciation for the various fighting systems and possibly a little confusion on what a rapier is. To many of us, &quot;rapiers&quot; are straight-edged, one handed, thrust centric weapon for *war*, not a smallsword or fencing foil, which are for civilian use." CreationDate="2020-11-10T14:56:10.137" UserId="6374" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21005" PostId="9586" Score="1" Text="@LiJun This hits an issue with HEMA manuscripts- they are mostly &quot;review manuals&quot; for people who got trained at that school/with that master. There are some HEMA manuals that talk about mounted combat, but I would have to look if they specifically talk about more than simply using spears..." CreationDate="2020-11-10T15:10:25.967" UserId="6374" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21006" PostId="5647" Score="0" Text="Just a thought - There are some very good crafters that tour renaissance faires. Perhaps you could get in touch with them and request a custom if they don't have one?" CreationDate="2020-11-10T15:30:35.033" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21007" PostId="9735" Score="0" Text="@Sanyifejű my teacher always insisted that any joint lock or throw follows after about 5 punches to the face. Wing-chung style - distracting and/or pain-inflicting quick slaps and punches." CreationDate="2020-11-10T23:16:55.797" UserId="485" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21008" PostId="4297" Score="0" Text="It might be said that training in all major weapons, and, ideally, a few exotic weapons might take away from total focus on empty hand that seems required for prize-fighting, imho, no practitioners are better equipped to use &quot;weapons of opportunity&quot; than serious Chinese practitioners.   (My Sifu always recommended &quot;picking up a brick and hitting them in the head&quot; for real world situations:)" CreationDate="2020-11-10T23:57:48.393" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21009" PostId="4365" Score="0" Text="Good points.  Although the &quot;ultimate&quot; modern martial art is surely good marksmanship, when people are attacked in the street or in bars, it typically doesn't involve guns." CreationDate="2020-11-10T23:59:33.133" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21010" PostId="10212" Score="1" Text="Background: I specialize in Chinese fencing, which heavily focuses cuts in practice, but the guard position I was taught is quite close to the guard I was taught in rapier &amp; saber—weight on one foot, handle at waist level with the blade pointing at the defender's eyes, fully protecting the main target of the torso while making it difficult see the blade. It's also worth noting that the epitome of Chinese fencing is the &quot;single drop of red&quot;, which refers to dispatching an opponent by penetrating their body to a depth of a couple of inches, such that the sword can be immediately withdrawn." CreationDate="2020-11-11T00:02:38.057" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21011" PostId="10202" Score="0" Text="@mattm I asking about how eliminating wearing of the Gi has affected the contemporary sport of MMA, compared to the early days (Royce Gracie utilized it quite effectively as a tool.)  But also asking if that removal of a potential tool for BJJ practitioners and Judoka required them to &quot;up their games&quot;, which would I'd assume would be beneficial for those arts overall." CreationDate="2020-11-11T00:05:41.337" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21012" PostId="10208" Score="0" Text="Dave, thanks for this informed answer.  (I'm partly interested in the history of the rivalry between BJJ and Judo/Jujutsu, which goes back three generations, but my sense is that they're pretty much evenly matched, and it probably really comes down to the fighter.)  Harrison moves really well, and I would not want to face her!" CreationDate="2020-11-11T00:08:26.430" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21013" PostId="10212" Score="2" Text="Bujinkan does practice unarmed vs. sword. Probably other schools of Japanese classical jujitsu do as well. The theory of movement is the same katana vs. straight sword. Straight sword would attack in the center line, but a lot of Japanese katana attacks also do that (seigan no kamae, standard defensive posture holding the center). You step off line diagonally and towards your opponent's weak side. Once you're in close, you can control that sword arm. In theory anyway. Dog Brothers probably have videos showing sword vs. unarmed or sword vs. stick. Might be useful to look at." CreationDate="2020-11-11T00:12:12.660" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21014" PostId="10187" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann That's exactly my point—there is no out of bounds that can stop a match fought in a cage.  (The safety argument for the cage I came across in doing a little googling, where someone on Quora suggested the cage is purely for safety.)  But my original question arose from the assertion of a master of the various arts utilized in MMA that the cage facilitates grappling.  Possibly I didn't ask the question well, and it more reflected the early days, before strikers were training against takedowns.  I appreciate your comment and answer." CreationDate="2020-11-11T00:14:20.260" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21016" PostId="10135" Score="0" Text="Also, doesn't BJJ, and jujutsu in general, have a lot of breaks that can be done standing, while controlling the opponent's body to forestall additional attackers?  Couldn't an expert judoka throw someone headfirst into concrete and and be ready for the next attacker?" CreationDate="2020-11-11T00:25:23.710" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21017" PostId="10192" Score="0" Text="Thanks LemmyX. I agree knowing is preferable to intuition. I could have said I know such-and-such but I cannot provide references to scientific articles substantiating my claims (I don't see much of that in other postings either!)." CreationDate="2020-11-11T17:22:05.827" UserId="11151" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21018" PostId="10214" Score="1" Text="If you have problems walking, why should you even bother to think about unarmed self-defence? What are the situations you are faced with where you feel threatened? Is this supposed to be a one-off training? What makes you think that self-defence is trained in &quot;rounds&quot;? Is this supposed to be in any specific art or system? What is available in the first place? This question seems to lack some critical information so that it seems to be a purely hypothetical, artificial scenario. I suggest thinking about the points I mentioned and address them in an edit." CreationDate="2020-11-11T18:43:56.010" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21019" PostId="10214" Score="0" Text="Yeah, this kind of question is outside of the normal range of experience for most people. Maybe someone has experience with this exact scenario, but I doubt it. I guess the main question should be more focused, like: What can you do if your mobility is reduced or non-existent?" CreationDate="2020-11-11T20:55:43.313" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21020" PostId="10213" Score="0" Text="Good answer.  I was definitely referring to a situation where someone threatens you with a knife, as opposed to a sneak attack.  My understanding is that a trained knife fighter is unlikely to be disarmed, but I've also been advised to utilize the psychological component in general in real-world situations, re: &quot;take as little damage as possible while freaking out and hurting the other one under extreme stress levels&quot; and the situational awareness re: &quot;identification of incoming attacks.&quot; That you don't sugar-coat the danger of knife defense carries great credibility." CreationDate="2020-11-11T23:31:32.223" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21021" PostId="10212" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand I'll take a look but I'm highly skeptical that *any* unarmed person can prevail against a competent swordsman, and even less so against a competent point fighter who does not need to rely on cuts.  (Stabbing is also quicker with a straight sword due to the balance of the weapon compared to curved blades optimized for cutting.)  Knife attacks are difficult to contend with, and sword beats knife, just due to range.  And, like any martial art, swordmanship is nothing without good footwork.  I've never seen a convincing technique for disarming a competent swordsman." CreationDate="2020-11-11T23:36:36.150" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21022" PostId="10213" Score="0" Text="One followup question—are knife wielders who use a backhanded grip easier to contend with?  I know people love that grip b/c it looks cool, and some systems heavily utilize it, but the available attacks with a backhanded grip are quite limited, as is range when wielding in that manner." CreationDate="2020-11-11T23:41:06.797" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21024" PostId="10196" Score="0" Text="My experience of two handed grip is with the extra long blades exclusively, although my teacher found that good wudang waist technique allowed those blades to wielded one handed also.  (There's some parallel I think with the heavy Pakua dao, which can also be effectively wielded one-handed.)" CreationDate="2020-11-11T23:53:27.807" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21026" PostId="9424" Score="0" Text="Excellent question!  Inspired me to ask about the [contemporary Kodokan curriculum.](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/10215/contemporary-kodokan-curriculum)" CreationDate="2020-11-12T00:16:09.650" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21027" PostId="10216" Score="0" Text="I love that particular scene.  As I recall, but Seagal and Jones were using the backhanded grip exclusively, and there was a lot of blade-to-blade contact.  Although fantasy, I think you make a good point about protection of jewelry and leather sleeves.  See also: [buff coat](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buff_coat#Use)" CreationDate="2020-11-12T00:43:47.177" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21028" PostId="10193" Score="0" Text="I also found this resource which conforms to what I was taught: http://taijijian.free.fr/en/Grip.html" CreationDate="2020-11-12T01:01:19.723" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21030" PostId="10216" Score="0" Text="Think of it this way, Knife fighting is notoriously dangerous to do and study/practice. Even a someone Well trained in martial arts is not stupid enough to get into a fight with a guy with a knife. Don't believe me? Get a marker, take the cap off, give it to a child and tell him to pretend it's a knife. NOW try and take it from him." CreationDate="2020-11-12T05:41:07.077" UserId="10877" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21031" PostId="10212" Score="1" Text="Unarmed vs. sword is a bad situation. But guess what. You encounter bad situations in real life. And the classical jujitsu ryu of Japan all knew that and prepared for it. I don't think any of them were under the delusion that they had a good chance of winning. But it's better to have something you can try, rather than just standing there. It happens in the UFC, too, except unarmed of course. A fighter steps off the line and brilliantly performs a strike perfectly timed, and his opponent goes down. This is all about timing. And that takes practice and skill. It's the same against a sword." CreationDate="2020-11-12T05:46:29.567" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21032" PostId="10213" Score="1" Text="Even if a guy only threatens you, this means a) they don't intend to kill you - which obviously helps loads - and b) that you still have trouble finding the time to take off your jacket." CreationDate="2020-11-12T06:28:26.847" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21033" PostId="10213" Score="1" Text="@DukeZhou re backhand: Let's face it: it's flashy, it's cool...and SEAGAL!!!11!! - Been there, too. The main advantage of the grip is that you are able to block/parry with your forearm - IFF the blade is big enough. At the same time, your *fingers* are more open, you lose range, you have to use diagonal movements, which obviously are more dangerous when someone wants to control the arm and simply hit you. IMHO, this is a defensive approach in a martial art where you use life blades - but everything else is forbidden. In other words: It's pretty useless for self-defence." CreationDate="2020-11-12T06:34:04.943" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21034" PostId="10216" Score="1" Text="@DukeZhou Against cuts, a simple t-shirt provides a sufficient protection. Seriously. It's...been tried " CreationDate="2020-11-12T06:37:43.880" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21035" PostId="10213" Score="1" Text="Oh, and **every** kind of clothing is enough to fend off deep cuts. Really. Cuts are not that dangerous since you will not have enough force in direction of the body. Even if the blade is razor sharp, a t-shirt is basically enough. If you want to use your knife to kill, you stab deep and rip diagonally from there. Or the throat, but that is only practically possible if you come from behind and can cut towards your body, ie. have a counter-force to make that cut dangerous." CreationDate="2020-11-12T06:41:03.940" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21036" PostId="10213" Score="1" Text="There has been a case where someone cut the throat of a guy from the front like 13 times. But because of how the body is built (vital things enjoying some level of protection, skin being elastic) and because you typically don't lean into these attacks, he survived. Just to illustrate *how much cuts are overestimated*. You don't feel the pain with all that adrenaline in your body, and if you don't lay there for 10 minutes,  bleeding, the blood loss is manageable, even though obviously the main problem." CreationDate="2020-11-12T06:49:02.730" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21037" PostId="10215" Score="1" Text="I think you should train judo as soon as possible. I once asked a lot of similar questions about judo (on a different forum), and it was fantastic when I bit the bullet and joined a dojo." CreationDate="2020-11-12T08:25:47.213" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21038" PostId="10219" Score="1" Text="First, I would like to add that in Japan, Taiso (traditional Japanese exercising - a bit like martial arts yoga) is part of the curriculum. Since the introduction in France, there were 50,000 new members and it is currently introduced in Germany as a formal and independent aspect. From what I understand, many of the individual forms and exercises are known to us from warm-ups etc." CreationDate="2020-11-12T09:08:42.610" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21039" PostId="10219" Score="1" Text="That said, Kime-no-kata: traditional self-defence (Goshin-jutsu is supposed to be modern); Itsutsu-no-kata: principles of the flow of forces (from traditional Tenjin Shinyō-ryū jujutsu, preserving one root of Kano's system); Koshiki-no-kata: also known as Kito-ryu no Kata, just a set of core techniques, preserving the other strand of origin of Kano's system." CreationDate="2020-11-12T09:13:32.433" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21040" PostId="10219" Score="1" Text="It may be worth mentioning that there are pure groundwork (mostly local ones) and pure kata competitions as well in judo, the latter even up to official world championships. Generally, groundwork is often trained more than competition would suggest, even though obviously not by high-level competitors. In the classical Kodokan curriculum, it is quite a strong part, though." CreationDate="2020-11-12T09:19:32.277" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21041" PostId="10214" Score="0" Text="Kocking's first sentence is not very helpful. Why wouldn't you want to defend yourself, especially if you cannot run away and especially if you can still strike and grapple? Weigand's comment is accepted." CreationDate="2020-11-12T17:26:40.660" UserId="11151" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21042" PostId="10214" Score="0" Text="Is the restriction on movement (now edited out) a matter of personal scenario (so you're looking for answers regarding that) or to avoid the usual answer that &quot;running is the best self defense&quot;?" CreationDate="2020-11-12T22:08:44.243" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21043" PostId="10216" Score="0" Text="Or, at the least, the t-shirt mitigates things as well as a leather jacket would, mitigating slashes but largely not doing much against stabs other than soaking up blood." CreationDate="2020-11-12T22:18:05.393" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21044" PostId="10214" Score="0" Text="The problem is that &quot;most effective&quot; is circumstantial. It pretty much depends on what happens (multi-attacker? Weapons? Drunken brawling or someone who seriously wants to hurt/kill? Etc.). Also, I can fully understand the idea of wanting to optimise training time, but there is no magical technique out there. The question is built on false premises here. And the point was to highlight the &quot;why&quot; and &quot;how&quot; in all the questions in my first comment. It is about making the question focused and specific enough to enable us to write a meaningful answer beyond &quot;Train Krav Maga as hard as you can&quot;." CreationDate="2020-11-13T05:48:22.807" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21045" PostId="2071" Score="0" Text="In my experience, unfortunately, the word `energy` gets used extremely often, including by STEM Master and PhDs to mean `something I cannot describe, lol`. Your explanation is spot on! Any word one cannot define should not be used as per `Newton's Flaming Laser Sword` principle." CreationDate="2020-11-13T08:51:50.327" UserId="485" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21046" PostId="10219" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the answer.  I use &quot;street combat&quot; to refer to real world situations, as opposed to sport competition.  (Perhaps I should revise this in the question proper?)" CreationDate="2020-11-14T01:56:31.503" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21047" PostId="10215" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann too old to be competitive and I already have 30 years in with an art that focuses on superior leverage with a better teacher than I'd have access to if I started up with another art.  (But I'm quite happy to see Harrison owning the competition, b/c she had more to lose by entering MMA than any competitor in the history of the sport:)" CreationDate="2020-11-14T01:59:00.067" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21048" PostId="10213" Score="0" Text="Thanks for these comments.  (fwiw I practice Chinese arts, where one of the advantages is sheer number of techniques, and have actually been able to take off my jacket during free sparring with a partner who is a better &amp; more experienced fighter than me, albeit with inferior technique.  And here I mean, without pausing, so, if I was out of range, I'm confident I could get it off before the attacker was able to close and score a strike.  That said, once someone pulls a knife, things get quite serious and one shouldn't play around!  So probably I wouldn't try this in real life:)" CreationDate="2020-11-14T02:03:48.157" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21049" PostId="10213" Score="0" Text="PS-it drives me nuts when people argue for backhanded sword grips, which have exactly one available cut that you'd be nuts to try once combat has begun for that reason and the reason of losing all of your range and ability to control the opponents blade.  I've been *told* that there's some defensive application in armored combat, but I'm not sure why any swordsman would adopt that grip, even if wielding two blades." CreationDate="2020-11-14T02:08:04.300" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21050" PostId="10222" Score="1" Text=":) It sounds like you actually have the knowledge to start writing an answer for this. Me, I could provide information form the web, but I don't know enough to really sort out the good from the bad. https://www.egreenway.com/taichichuan/fan.htm might be a start for references." CreationDate="2020-11-14T17:35:41.747" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21051" PostId="10213" Score="1" Text="@DukeZhou Re:PS Swords have always been slashing and stabbing weapons (knives stab only, or cutting throats from behind). Using them in a grip that reduces the weapon to cuts or stabs in a biomechanically unfavourable direction (backwards, out of centerline) is completely idiotic. In dual wield I could imagine one hand in backhand as a guard following the leading attack hand may have some sense to it. But I'm not deep into sword fighting, so that's mere guesswork here." CreationDate="2020-11-14T18:48:57.333" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21052" PostId="10221" Score="0" Text="Okay, but I have a different viewpoint. I would select something that has both direct martial as well as conditioning benefits. For example, practice Muay Thai elbows on the heavy bag over deadlifts. With elbows, you have an effective self defense tools in close range. I think they probably have more benefit than deadlifts for fighting. I think the highest priority for self defense is training self defense techniques, not auxiliary exercises." CreationDate="2020-11-14T19:14:11.273" UserId="11151" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21053" PostId="10221" Score="1" Text="@Waterman I think the deadlifts are way more relevant to fighting for a lot of people. If you disagree then I respectfully would be interested to know your personal best deadlift." CreationDate="2020-11-14T20:12:32.933" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21054" PostId="10221" Score="0" Text="I don't see what my personal best anything has to do with it. Yes, I don't do deadlifts but it is not because I don't think they are one of the best strength building exercises around. My sprint times are pretty awful but I still believe running away is the best self defense if you can do it. I do believe that the best way to exceed in any activity is to do that activity. I haven't seen many fights where deadlifting was effective. I have seen many fights were elbows were. Simplistic, but there it is." CreationDate="2020-11-14T22:36:04.843" UserId="11151" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21055" PostId="10223" Score="0" Text="Can you explain a bit about what the attacks are in case that YouTube video goes away?" CreationDate="2020-11-15T00:54:12.193" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21058" PostId="10223" Score="0" Text=":) Can you put that in your answer?" CreationDate="2020-11-15T03:14:55.740" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21059" PostId="10221" Score="2" Text="@Waterman The reason I ask is because I think a lot of fights *have* been won by a good deadlift. Being strong matters, a lot. A strong person's unpracticed elbows can be much more dangerous than a weak person's trained elbows." CreationDate="2020-11-15T06:28:01.710" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21060" PostId="10221" Score="1" Text="Just to illustrate the point of Dave: I once had a real good martial artist with excellent technique telling me that I would easily overwhelm her if I'd try for real by sheer mass and strength. Also, working a heavy bag might improve the technique - which is doubtful without a coach - but in self-defense, it is strength, footwork, and **timing** which decide whether something hits and even if it hits, whether it matters. There's a reason why the really dangerous people are strong and fast. And for strength and speed, the exercises described are most time-efficient." CreationDate="2020-11-15T06:37:03.497" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21064" PostId="10214" Score="1" Text="First C of being a champion is conditioning. YouTube team quest grappling circuit working." CreationDate="2020-11-16T05:52:44.757" UserId="11164" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21065" PostId="10221" Score="0" Text="I respectfully disagree. Athletic training is very specific. You are not going to hit harder by lifting weights over practicing hitting. Hitting the heavy bag properly builds power, timing, etc. while also making you practice something which is directly applicable in a fight. Of course a strong person could overwhelm a significantly weaker person. A more honest comparison would be pitting two equal opponents together after one only did deadlifts and the other only practiced elbows. If you want to be a fighter you need to train 80% martial arts and 20% strength, not the reverse." CreationDate="2020-11-16T14:41:54.160" UserId="11151" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21066" PostId="10224" Score="0" Text="Wow. You guys really have gone on a tangent here. Just asking which martial arts techniques would you train for self defense. Unarmed self defense. Anything is possible. If you cannot run, you've got to do something. Of course it is better to avoid. What if you are in it, you can't avoid it, you fight or you give up." CreationDate="2020-11-16T16:33:38.093" UserId="11151" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21067" PostId="10228" Score="0" Text="Do they train against resisting opponents who don't have to stick with a fixed set of techniques?" CreationDate="2020-11-16T23:17:38.773" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21068" PostId="10223" Score="0" Text="Love the pic!  &quot;Strike the wrist bone or between the ulna and radius, near pressure points&quot; is quite solid.  Using the fan to redirect and stabbing at the face also (works well with bamboo too, which I personally prefer for the quickness:)" CreationDate="2020-11-17T00:21:49.417" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21069" PostId="10222" Score="1" Text="@MacacoBranco Indeed.  I'll be posting a supplementary answer focusing on Pakua fan specifically, and noting some of the added dimensions.  (PS-that link you posted is not working for me.)" CreationDate="2020-11-17T00:22:29.843" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21070" PostId="10229" Score="0" Text="My martial brothers and I tested this with wooden swords, and our empty hand practice involves not telegraphing or winding up for strikes.  No one was able to make the slap, everyone got poked, and the sword wielders merely had to react by instinct. *(The general feeling of executing the pokes was confusion at why someone would rush a swordsman:)* DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME!  Everyone involved in the test had at least a decade of training, such that we were able to touch as opposed to wound, and we still used old-style heavy canvass sport fencing jackets." CreationDate="2020-11-17T00:46:40.627" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21071" PostId="10222" Score="1" Text="Ah. https://web.archive.org/web/20200209192912/https://www.egreenway.com/taichichuan/fan.htm is the Wayback Machine URL (also good if the site goes down). It's largely a list of links to places where you can learn more, but it includes some links to instructional YouTube videos, and PDFs containing a list of movements." CreationDate="2020-11-17T01:34:27.470" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21072" PostId="10222" Score="1" Text="@MacacoBranco Good link.  I think the problem with the videos, even by legit masters, is they're focusing on the elegance in performance, such that it's hard to how the weapon would actually be applied (which is not uncommon for tai chi in general.) I'm going to focus on practicality, and start with techniques *any* martial artist with a little weapons training can use." CreationDate="2020-11-17T01:49:08.050" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21074" PostId="10224" Score="0" Text="IFFFFF, you must fight to defend yourself, conventional martial arts aren't practical.&#xA;Learn MCMAP, Marine Corps Martial Arts program, It's basically a crash course in th martial arts techniques Marines learned from the cultures they killed worldwide.&#xA;American Kenpo is another one" CreationDate="2020-11-17T04:00:35.717" UserId="10877" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21075" PostId="10230" Score="1" Text="is this the style you mean?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Whz07ssLFXU" CreationDate="2020-11-17T11:30:19.027" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21076" PostId="10224" Score="0" Text="And yet not one suggestion of any technique." CreationDate="2020-11-17T13:46:33.750" UserId="11151" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21077" PostId="10233" Score="2" Text="That kind of interpretation is an example of broken transmission. Most people doing taiji these days (99% or so) are doing a form of taiji that's for health, not for martial arts. That leads to speculation about the martial arts meaning. And you'll see all kinds of things people make up. No, it's not about a knife. You don't need an empty hand form to show you that you can grab your knife out and use it. Forms encapsulate ideas and self-defense techniques that were considered important enough to be one of the 20-30 some-odd self defense scenarios in the form." CreationDate="2020-11-17T18:11:37.783" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21078" PostId="10231" Score="1" Text="This is a chin-na technique from white crane, or one of white crane's common ancestors." CreationDate="2020-11-17T18:12:49.607" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21079" PostId="10224" Score="1" Text="Because fighting techniques are a small part of self-defense." CreationDate="2020-11-17T18:53:53.547" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21080" PostId="10230" Score="0" Text="@HuwEvans Nice link. Always like to see an old-school master doing their thing!  But I was not referring to Red Fist style, but to the tai chi movement, often called &quot;Red Fist Chop&quot;.  It's one of the Chen style movements in the 67 Combined Tai Chi form, where I believe it included because it's considered as one of the exemplary &amp; characteristic Chen movements. &#xA; See [Section 3 in this list of movements](http://elektrikrevue.blogspot.com/2008/09/67-movements-combined-tai-chi-chuan.html)" CreationDate="2020-11-18T02:18:50.147" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21081" PostId="10231" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand Chin-na indeed!  Highly effective when applied with waist technique, and off-hand placed on the wrist of the main hand definitely implies this.  (I was unaware of the white crane origin, but that totally makes sense.)  Hoping someone will explicate that in an answer..." CreationDate="2020-11-18T02:23:35.207" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21082" PostId="10233" Score="0" Text="There are definitely dagger-grab techniques in various Chinese forms, and, having checked out a Yang 24 video, I see what you mean.  (I was totally unaware of this application, but, like most good Tai Chi movements, there are more than one application!)  Please link a video of Yang 24 that you think is good so other people can check it out and validate." CreationDate="2020-11-18T02:27:52.640" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21083" PostId="10233" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand Check out some Yang 24 vids.  I agree with you that the white crane application is likely the oldest, and certainly the dominant technique, but I think pezz is correct about how Yang practitioners are doing it—hand definitely goes to the waist.  (Dagger grab techniques do indeed show up in various empty hand forms, and I have that on very good authority.)  I myself was planning to explicate another secondary application where it can be used as a finger strike, as a supplementary answer." CreationDate="2020-11-18T02:33:20.263" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21084" PostId="10231" Score="1" Text="By the way, this is also a trademark in snake style kung-fu, but snake has kind of died out for the most part. Just bits and pieces survive in more complete styles. Yes, you got it with the other hand placed on the wrist. We used to do this chin-na at Jeff Bolt's kung-fu school in Houston. He learned from Dr. Yang Jwing-Ming (who does white crane, long-fist, and yang style taiji). I always thought this was a fun chin-na. The follow-up high move after that is what you would expect if your opponent is able to raise up. Then you get a standing arm bar to elbow break and throw." CreationDate="2020-11-18T02:35:24.677" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21085" PostId="10231" Score="0" Text="Dr. Yang wrote many books, including at least 2 on chin-na, and they come highly recommended for the clear way he explicates principles, likely due to his engineering background.  Crazy that he doesn't have an [English wikipedia page](https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang_Jwing-ming), since he taught in the US for so many years. *(His students need to get on that;)*" CreationDate="2020-11-18T02:52:26.747" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21086" PostId="10221" Score="0" Text="Before I began study of martial arts, 1000 pushups per day was my practice.  Stood me in good stead when I got jumped, even though I had no idea what I was doing, and had to react by instinct. Hitting a heavy bag is also great to get your fists use to applying force, because people who never actually hit anything can injure their wrists.  And if you have limited time, best to practice **one** technique you can guarantee, as opposed to many you can't. I actually heard a story about a martial artist who used one punch—he would inch into range and POW—he was really good at that one punch!" CreationDate="2020-11-18T02:58:26.470" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21088" PostId="9769" Score="1" Text="They actually say that no one knows how they will react *until* they get punched in the face.  (Also very good to learn the hard way not to lead with your face into a punch;)" CreationDate="2020-11-18T03:25:46.890" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21089" PostId="10230" Score="1" Text="Is this any particular tai-chi style?  Chen you say?" CreationDate="2020-11-18T14:34:49.247" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21090" PostId="10237" Score="2" Text="Too broad. You should limit it to a particular fighting genre. Like MMA, boxing, or Olympic Judo. Judo is interesting, because the athletic peak is somewhere in the late 20's / early 30's. Most other sports, like gymnastics or figure skating, will have peaks in the late teen years. But your question is about career span. There's a lot of selection bias there. Only the fighters that win will stick around long enough to have a career. Most wash out early. We're talking 0.01% of people actually go on to make a career out of it. Difficult to come by statistics." CreationDate="2020-11-18T16:52:27.807" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21091" PostId="7689" Score="0" Text="Yes, there is. There are at least FOUR types of side kick in ITF TKD. There's the, Side PIERCING kick, done with the footsword, that is the lower, heel, edge of the blade of the foot. There's the side THRUSTING kick , that;s done with the ball of the foot. There's a side PUSHING kick , done with the sole of the foo, but that has NONE of the twisting action/rotation, that's done in the side piercing kick. Finally there's the side RISING kick which is bith a stretching technique and a blocking technique to an enemy that's positioned off center, offline, at an angle, to you." CreationDate="2020-11-18T17:53:45.780" UserId="11025" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21092" PostId="7705" Score="0" Text="The difference in the pushing and piercing kick IS mentioned by Gen Choi, when he says &quot; weight without acceleration and power, losing piercing force&quot;. He meant that the kicking foot would  NOT apply impulse in the same way as it does with side piercing kick. Namely, that large amounts of force would NOT be applied to the enemy in a short period of time. That's what he meant by NO acceleration. Rather, you're pushing your enemy via translation of your own body mass via contacting them with your bent leg. Your side kicking leg is NOT moving, hence, ZERO acceleration. A;so the kicking foot is 1/" CreationDate="2020-11-18T18:03:06.850" UserId="11025" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21093" PostId="7705" Score="0" Text="To continue the kicking foot is not turning on the enemy's body hence..no &quot;piercing action&quot; Piercing action is that turning motion of the foot that is done ON the opponent's body whilst executing side piercing kick. Analogous to the twisting of the arm ON the enemy's body whilst punching. Basically Gen Choi was saying, assuming side pushing kick done with the left leg, &quot;Quickly cross your right leg in FRONT of your left to bring your body in range to your opponent, Then, very shortly after, apply your bent left leg to your enemy's side. Then push hard and pivot with your RIGHT leg against  2/" CreationDate="2020-11-18T18:09:56.907" UserId="11025" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21094" PostId="7705" Score="0" Text="the ground. Your RIGHT leg is the source of momentum/mass transfer NOT your LEFT/KICKING leg. THAT is the reason he said ZERO acceleration. Because the 'KICKING' leg in a side PUSHING kick does NOT accelerate AT ALL. It is just a vehicle for the transfer of momentum from the TKD player to the enemy that he does NOT, at that point, wish to destroy." CreationDate="2020-11-18T18:12:31.200" UserId="11025" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21096" PostId="10237" Score="1" Text="@SteveWeigand Honestly, I'm trying to get a gauge of the general timespan of competitiveness for combat sports in general.  (Olympic seems to be shorter than Boxing, in that multiple golds are quite rare, which is surprising, but interesting.)  But perhaps multiple questions for boxing, MMA and Judo would be a good idea too...  Let's see if this attracts any answers, and, if not, delete and re-ask as multiples." CreationDate="2020-11-18T20:46:46.160" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21097" PostId="10230" Score="0" Text="@HuwEvans Chen style, yes, but one can also find it in Shaolin forms.  (Asked about the Tai Chi technique b/c it has multiple applications, like many in that art.  Chen videos I've searched on seem to show only the surface application—wish there was a video of the Chen Village instructor!)  What I'm hoping is that a Chen practitioner sees this and expounds." CreationDate="2020-11-18T20:50:31.367" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21098" PostId="10231" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand PS—you clearly have deep, practical knowledge of the chin-na technique.  Should you choose to render your comment a formal answer, it would surely be accepted!" CreationDate="2020-11-18T20:54:24.057" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21099" PostId="2617" Score="0" Text="There is no &quot;complete fighter&quot; in the world that could prevail if locked in a cage with Ndamukong Suh, 313 lbs. of pure aggression. (Anyone making such a claim is likely a slightly overestimating the capabilities of the arts in general.  Musashi wrote about killing a man by striking with the shoulder, and a conflict against an one such as Suh is likely to be determined with the first hit;) Neither kicking, punching *nor* grappling would work against an elite athlete of that size and caliber. It's really a physics problem:  https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/10239/7644" CreationDate="2020-11-18T21:34:54.653" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21100" PostId="10214" Score="0" Text="Here are the problem with casual, solo practice: Do you know what to do against a boxer or kickboxer?  What to do against a grappler? Have you been punched in the face, or thrown or submitted?  And, even if focus exclusively on throat punch or eye gouge or kicking to break the knee, how is your footwork in general?  (Even with boxing, a one dimensional method in the sense of using punches only to attack the brain and breath, it takes years to attain the requisite footwork, and superior footwork is part of what distinguishes fighters like Ali &amp; Mayweather from the rest.)" CreationDate="2020-11-18T22:03:24.807" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21101" PostId="10092" Score="0" Text="Great question.  The kubotan is a form of &quot;equalizer&quot;, and they come is several types." CreationDate="2020-11-18T22:33:08.387" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21102" PostId="10068" Score="0" Text="Good answer.  Can I ask, do you train for horizontal hammer fists, or referring only to vertical.  (You make a good point about blocking, but, if one can get inside, or use the strike following a counter, horizontal hammer with a kubotan can be quite effective.  By contrast, I'd never use a hammer fist horizontally without a short blunt weapon, and would only use the vertical technique after gaining advantage.  Collarbone can be easily broken with a vertical forearm strike, using the back of the forearm, which can be applied very quickly and is potentially more difficult to block." CreationDate="2020-11-18T22:50:56.433" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21103" PostId="10054" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann are those truly horsestances though, or just similar, such as the &quot;straddle stance&quot;?  I could certainly use a horsestance for a powerful horizontal fist to the side, but I doubt it would work except against an unskilled opponent.  There is a leopard boxing form that uses them in conjunction with leopard fist, but, although one might practice it low in training, any actual use is a high horse, because the main target is the throat, and for the necessary mobility for combat." CreationDate="2020-11-18T23:20:21.673" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21104" PostId="10054" Score="0" Text="Mattm—*great* point about muscle tension.  Alignment problems are an easy culprit, but people tend not to realize how damaging tension in the knee joints can be, or how unrelaxed they actually are." CreationDate="2020-11-18T23:21:27.943" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21105" PostId="10068" Score="1" Text="@DukeZhou if I'm not holding anything I'd tend to use either a back-fist strike or a knife hand strike more often than a horizontal hammerfist: knifehands concentrate the impact a bit more, and backfists can keep the elbow down a little more to protect your ribs, adjust range, and it's easier to pull back out of an attempted grab, and be in a position to punch again.  But, if I'm holding something - sure horizontal hammerfist is sweet - particularly if you've shifted diagonally into a hook punch and drawn their punching arm out straight, then can attack over the top of it to the temple." CreationDate="2020-11-18T23:24:51.853" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21106" PostId="10068" Score="0" Text="Thanks for validating—always great to get corroboration and extra detail from a martial brother.  PS you may want to check out [this question on kubotan](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/10092/is-a-fist-with-a-kubotan-effective-and-does-it-endanger-the-users-hand).  I provided an answer, but may have missed some of the finer points or uses.  (I suspect the user rushed to accept the answer, and the accepted answer really does't understand the use of the weapon, or the utility of equalizers in general.)" CreationDate="2020-11-18T23:33:15.120" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21107" PostId="10230" Score="0" Text="From someone who has studied bagua, isn't actually learning the mechanics of how to strike hard enough? Why does there need to be a more fanciful application?" CreationDate="2020-11-19T04:46:17.387" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21108" PostId="10240" Score="1" Text="I'd just add to &quot;generally...in a horizontal manner&quot; that you can strike with the palm down or the palm up: the latter is useful at close range to the head ( first google match showing the strike I mean - https://sportsandmartialarts.com/deadly-inward-hammer-fist/ )" CreationDate="2020-11-19T04:47:54.890" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21109" PostId="10068" Score="0" Text="@DukeZhou: I took a look and commented on your answer there.  I think the problem with that question was that it specifically narrowed the discussion to using the kubotan clutched inside the fist while still punching with your knuckles - not a great idea ;-)." CreationDate="2020-11-19T04:50:24.763" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21110" PostId="10245" Score="8" Text="Give your attacker a bike and wait a year or two. :)" CreationDate="2020-11-19T04:59:15.727" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21111" PostId="10240" Score="1" Text="@TonyD And, in my experience, most people don't train in, or train against, horizontal hammer fist, certainly not extensively, so simple have mastered those techniques can provide an advantage." CreationDate="2020-11-19T05:13:54.093" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21112" PostId="10230" Score="0" Text="@mattm Not fanciful.  (I trained with an old school master who didn't use nonsense words like &quot;energy&quot;, unless referring to caloric consumption, which was referred to as &quot;spending money&quot;.)  The surface application here is grabbing the back of the head, and smashing the nose with the back of the fist, thus &quot;red fist&quot;.  But Chinese internal is heavily based on the strategic principle of deception in general (Sun Tzu), and the deeper application is grabbing the arm and twisting and smashing the back of the fist to break the elbow." CreationDate="2020-11-19T05:16:49.953" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21113" PostId="10230" Score="0" Text="@mattm Thus masters would teach the surface techniques to &quot;outdoor students&quot;, and the deeper techniques to &quot;indoor students&quot;.  It is said, not entirely euphemistically, that &quot;every good tai chi movement has multiple applications.&quot;" CreationDate="2020-11-19T05:17:48.880" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21114" PostId="10231" Score="1" Text="For anyone who's interested - Dr Yang Jwing-Ming has a taichi video on Amazon Prime (accessible from the US at least) - very impressive...." CreationDate="2020-11-19T05:28:52.563" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21115" PostId="10247" Score="0" Text="Tony, thank your for this excellent answer!  Again, for readers, I want to reinforce that this kind of kicking is not something I've trained in extensively, thus my use of &quot;toe kick&quot; is exclusively when wearing boots or heavy sneakers. (I believe steel toed boots were even [outlawed in Glasgow for a time](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel-toe_boot#Use_as_a_weapon) because too many people were getting killed.)  My toes would break if I actually kicked with them, so reinforcing ball of the foot is greatly appreciated." CreationDate="2020-11-19T05:34:27.300" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21116" PostId="10230" Score="0" Text="@mattm For validation, consider that a good shaolin or karate punch is also a *great* elbow strike to an attacker behind.  (Important to balance the force.)  Sometimes multiple applications can be as simple as that." CreationDate="2020-11-19T05:36:37.547" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21117" PostId="953" Score="0" Text="I've given a complete answer that most people probably won't like, but will only add that, if planning to use for combat, I recommend Chen, the most overtly martial.  Advantage to Chen is the low stance training, silk reeling, and aggressive character.  If wanting to use Tai Chi *movements* in the first decade, Chen is what I would recommend." CreationDate="2020-11-19T05:38:38.333" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21118" PostId="953" Score="0" Text="If someone wants fighting in this era even I recommend MMA. I've sent students who are interested in competition fighting, or high-level self defense when younger, *only* to teachers who are both expert strikers and grapplers.  But I would also highly encourage beginning tai chi practice in early adulthood as an investment in the future, as the art arguably most optimized for middle age to end of life." CreationDate="2020-11-19T06:00:14.497" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21119" PostId="10247" Score="0" Text="Could I ask you to comment on the axe kick?  I noticed you didn't mention that and wondered if there was a reason." CreationDate="2020-11-19T06:14:05.377" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21120" PostId="10054" Score="0" Text="@DukeZhou I don't understand &quot;straddle stance&quot;. Regardless, yes I do believe that a true horse stance is used in wrestling/grappling contexts, though I simultaneously agree with Matt that its primary purpose is a training goal and tool." CreationDate="2020-11-19T08:34:05.633" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21121" PostId="10246" Score="0" Text="Interesting: &quot;Lifting weights is not recommended&quot; yet &quot;heavy stone balls and heavy weapons&quot; are OK. I guess if it's old-timey then it doesn't count as a weight?" CreationDate="2020-11-19T08:39:39.667" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21122" PostId="10245" Score="1" Text="During fights, people often continue fighting with broken bones. They feel it later when they're recovering. The focus should not be on bone breaking. It's fine, but only in the context of your &quot;core&quot; strategy, which is to get yourself to a position where you can control your opponent and deliver damage reliably. If you have that, then you can go for these bone breaks and other things. But personally, I think you'd want to do a KO, submission, choke, or stun and run. Those win the fights. Collarbone breaks don't. My thoughts anyway. But I get that the question bypasses that issue." CreationDate="2020-11-19T17:22:17.913" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21123" PostId="961" Score="0" Text="This is an excellent answer.  Cheng Man-ch'ing was great partly b/c he was sick, and tai chi helped restore him to health and made him strong.  He was potentially the first true master to say, essentially, &quot;If I can do this, anyone can do this. And everyone should do this.  And even as little as 15 minutes per day is sufficient.&quot;" CreationDate="2020-11-19T18:52:08.103" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21124" PostId="961" Score="0" Text="But readers should also recognize that [Yang Chengfu](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang_Chengfu) accepted Cheng as a disciple, which was a rare thing indeed." CreationDate="2020-11-19T18:59:20.033" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21125" PostId="10246" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I tried to be reticent about that, because I recognize that weight lifting is an important part of your practice. I have a formidable tai chi brother who can bench extraordinary amounts, but it does make it harder for him to attain the necessary level of relaxation.  (Possibly I should say it's not recommend for most.  But also don't forget that part of allowed Cheng Man-ch'ing to reach such a high level in a relatively short time is specifically because he was weak with tuberculosis.  If your weight practice is done in the spirit of the old masters, it's probably fine." CreationDate="2020-11-19T19:04:01.727" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21126" PostId="10246" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann amended to say &quot;lifting weights is not generally recommend&quot;, so that it allows for the exception cases." CreationDate="2020-11-19T19:13:54.280" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21127" PostId="10245" Score="1" Text="@SteveWeigand Indeed.  File under &quot;It's not how hard you can hit, but how hard you can get hit and keep going.&quot;  (I was taught that breaking the collarbone is not a finishing move, but part of longer strategy of attrition.)" CreationDate="2020-11-19T19:17:20.890" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21128" PostId="10054" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann [Shiko-dachi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karate_stances#Low_stances)." CreationDate="2020-11-19T19:33:25.000" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21129" PostId="10246" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Think about [Fu Zhensong](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fu_Zhensong) using a giant stone ball (that you could sure lift, but I can't, favoring much lighter ones;)  He used that to walk the pakua circle for hours—the use was only partly for strength—&quot;root&quot; was the ultimate intent, and this is likely what allowed him to match Yang Chengfu." CreationDate="2020-11-19T19:39:37.723" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21130" PostId="10247" Score="1" Text="@DukeZhou: axe kicks tend to be much more telegraphed / slower to deliver, harder to get on target, slower to recover from - compared to pick kicks (where the knee lifts first with the leg bent, then the leg straightens at the top of the movement, and the hamstring contracts to flick the heel forwards at the opponent's face or collar bone/neck), much as spinning heel kicks (with the leg straight) are a clumsy cousin to spinning hooking kicks (where the leg straightens a little to the side of the target then the hamstring snaps the heel sideways through the target as the leg bends)." CreationDate="2020-11-19T21:12:14.133" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21131" PostId="10247" Score="1" Text="I just don't think the axe kick is a better choice in many situations." CreationDate="2020-11-19T21:12:49.797" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21134" PostId="10247" Score="1" Text="I appreciate the explication and am glad I asked." CreationDate="2020-11-21T23:54:32.397" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21136" PostId="10250" Score="0" Text="Excellent perspective.  Old-school street fighters weren't thinking about pins, but, post MMA, I'm sure the  equation has changed for many practitioners." CreationDate="2020-11-21T23:56:16.083" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21138" PostId="10249" Score="0" Text="I've accepted this as the formal answer b/c I think one can say that kicking (stomping) the opponent on the ground while controlling their body is objectively optimal." CreationDate="2020-11-23T00:24:48.580" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21139" PostId="10222" Score="1" Text="@MacacoBranco last one—LazyReader got me thinking about bladed fan, and, as many techniques are only practical with such a weapon, I've added an answer covering those for pakua fan in particular, but which also show up in other fan forms.  The last technique I include the following movement, to elucidate how masters think about forms when creating a new one—most people tend only to think of inserting the blade, but not withdrawing it, which is critical for straight sword, where impaling can cause the wielder to lose hold of the weapon as the opponent falls." CreationDate="2020-11-23T00:33:22.197" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21140" PostId="10223" Score="0" Text="You inspired me to talk about bladed fan, so I've added an answer from Chinese &quot;Dragon Fan&quot;.  (Watching your linked video, I could definitely see that form being translated into a Japanese style!)" CreationDate="2020-11-23T00:34:15.560" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21141" PostId="10256" Score="1" Text="Wow.  Thanks for this answer.  I especially appreciate the detail on  kata bunkai, but the level of detail in general answered a lot of other questions, in terms of practice and theory." CreationDate="2020-11-23T03:33:20.853" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21142" PostId="10256" Score="0" Text="TLDR: read the last paragraph beginning &quot;In terms of power...&quot;" CreationDate="2020-11-23T09:46:59.363" UserId="9210" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21143" PostId="10256" Score="0" Text="Would be helpful to include a section on board/brick breaking, which is a big part of ITF to practice power and precision. Is it also a part of karate?" CreationDate="2020-11-23T10:58:01.923" UserId="11180" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21144" PostId="10257" Score="3" Text="Ranting comment: People don't learn to fall and roll properly ;)" CreationDate="2020-11-23T11:54:10.377" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21145" PostId="10256" Score="0" Text="For reference, the Tae Kwon Do in the olympics is under WTF rules." CreationDate="2020-11-23T12:48:59.233" UserId="8680" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21146" PostId="10256" Score="0" Text="Minor point.  &quot;*Shotokan karate does not practice bunkai*&quot; Modern Shotokan certainly does, and I believe it did in the early 20th century too. The point is more that Shotokan's basic bunkai are aimed at a philosophy of blocks being to defend against punches and kicks, and it isn't until further down the line that you discover the alternative uses.  (Although even then, the basic bunkai for Heian Shodan have to include the third rising block being a forearm strike to the jaw/neck, otherwise it makes no sense because you've turned your back on an attacker without putting them down.)" CreationDate="2020-11-23T13:48:20.583" UserId="6517" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21147" PostId="10256" Score="0" Text="Every &quot;bunkai&quot; I have ever seen from Shotokan is based on a flawed understanding of what the original Okinawan karate kata were about. Funakoshi-sensei did not teach Bunkai. His Shotokan karate was adapted for school children to use in Japanese physical education programs. The self-defense aspects were not taught and left up to the students' imaginations. The only thing they knew was striking and blocking, and so that's what they imagined the kata were about. If Shotokan is attempting to bring true bunkai back, that's great! But it requires returning to their Okinawan karate roots." CreationDate="2020-11-23T17:18:53.380" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21148" PostId="10256" Score="0" Text="Board breaking is done in Shotokan and in Taekwondo. Both do it for the same reasons. It is more common to see it in Taekwondo demonstrations, though. And it's more common for Taekwondo to use boards that are very brittle and easy to break." CreationDate="2020-11-23T17:22:52.790" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21149" PostId="10258" Score="0" Text="How does this answer the question how mats changed the way Judo was trained after it **evidently not had been trained on mats for some time**?" CreationDate="2020-11-24T10:40:25.373" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21150" PostId="10257" Score="0" Text="As a complete outsider, I see a few factors, but none has to do with *teaching*. The obvious 1): you need some sort of padding for training because a hard fall can really injure or kill. 2) Maybe it's because of gymnastics, but modern mats are far easier to get. 3) Modern mats are made of water-resistant plastic and rubber, and that's a big plus when you have sweaty people rolling around on it. Woven materials like tatami absorb water, and that's a big mold problem you can't really fix." CreationDate="2020-11-24T16:22:00.253" UserId="10450" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21151" PostId="10229" Score="0" Text="I think the exercise you tried is a very good way to find out what works and what doesn't. It seems you learned firsthand why people came up with shields and armor.&#xA;As for aikido, there's also people who have tried to pressure test aikido techniques for a similar knife defense. It typically doesn't go the way it's supposed to, either." CreationDate="2020-11-24T16:36:29.907" UserId="10450" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21152" PostId="10199" Score="1" Text="I've read that he was influenced by a Taekwondo practitioner Jhoon Goo Rhee, but I haven't really seen much to back that up. He could've just as easily gotten his style of kicking from other martial arts like kickboxing, savate, karate, etc.&#xA;Also he does do a hammy double leg takedown in Way of the Dragon in the fight between two karate masters and his coworkers." CreationDate="2020-11-24T17:04:30.687" UserId="10450" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21153" PostId="10257" Score="1" Text="@PhilipKlöcking I unfortunately know a several years of experience aikidoka who can't fall on grass (without a loud thud! ohhhh I can't get up now)" CreationDate="2020-11-24T17:20:46.023" UserId="485" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21154" PostId="10245" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand I recently broke my collarbone. There was no pain. But I could not lift my hand above shoulder level. To me, it is unthinkable to perform strikes with the arm with a broken collarbone. There would simply be no force behind the strike." CreationDate="2020-11-24T17:30:03.337" UserId="485" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21155" PostId="10236" Score="1" Text="Do note that kicking ad opponent(even an armed one) on the ground legally constitute assault in many jurisdictions because &quot;they are helpless, the assault is over already, this is not self defense anymore&quot;." CreationDate="2020-11-24T17:33:13.413" UserId="485" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21156" PostId="10245" Score="1" Text="@Vorac There are two things that stop you from fighting with a broken bone. First is pain. Second is structural stability. During a fight, it's super common for someone to break their bones and not feel it. That's because of the adrenaline rush and the fight-or-flight phenomenon. You'll feel it after the fight, but not as much during the fight. Pro fighters break their ribs, fingers, and arms and still fight. Structure is the real problem. If a bone breaks in a way that causes a loss of structural stability, then you just can't fight even if you don't feel pain." CreationDate="2020-11-24T17:35:19.590" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21157" PostId="10245" Score="1" Text="@SteveWeigand I fully agree. This was a bicycle crash, so nearly zero adrenaline - just loss of structure. To compare, a broken leg hurts a ton AFTER the adrenaline wears off of course." CreationDate="2020-11-24T17:38:18.493" UserId="485" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21158" PostId="10257" Score="2" Text="@Vorac That's why I do some falls and rolls on plain wooden floor from time to time. There is a group in the Kodokan which praises itself to train without mats on the wood iirc :)" CreationDate="2020-11-24T18:01:46.900" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21159" PostId="10258" Score="2" Text="Hi @LazyReader, please read [this help section article](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/help/referencing). When using other's work as a reference it is important to attribute it in your answer." CreationDate="2020-11-24T20:09:54.267" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21160" PostId="10257" Score="2" Text="What is a &quot;modern&quot; mat?" CreationDate="2020-11-25T15:46:58.517" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21161" PostId="66" Score="1" Text="@Vorac my left hand-writing sucks and I have not practiced much with it. My current work is getting the neigong incorporated in that, and fine-motor skills (whether right or left hand) using neigong and what I can with fajin is still a long ways away. Probably why some folks used to practice calligraphy and painting." CreationDate="2020-11-25T21:48:02.723" UserId="65" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21162" PostId="10259" Score="0" Text="Interesting question, but the sources I see (on a quick google skim) say that the police kendo curriculum is aggressive, but does not necessarily incorporate judo — rather that the choice is to train kendo *or* judo. Could you point to where you saw this &quot;kendo with judo moves&quot;?" CreationDate="2020-11-27T15:34:19.920" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21163" PostId="10259" Score="0" Text="https://www.facebook.com/emptymindfilms/posts/2560513027350077&#xA;It looks like the Haga Dojo of the Budokan has a class...  I assume this is basically the same as the police rules." CreationDate="2020-11-27T16:37:45.873" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21164" PostId="10259" Score="1" Text="From what I gather, kendo used to include throws and sweeps. As the sport progressed, they banned throws, body checks, and foot sweeps. But some schools of kendo still allow these kinds of things. The police kendo variation you're talking about allows body checks, sweeps, and sword cut to a downed player. I believe you don't get any points for a foot sweep, but you do get a point if you can get a sword strike while your opponent is down. I don't know much else." CreationDate="2020-11-27T20:28:36.297" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21166" PostId="10256" Score="1" Text="@SteveWeigand - Just a minor quibble - Many modern schools of all types use the plastic rebreakable boards. I find them to be more difficult than their &quot;equivalent&quot; board rating than regular boards when new, to absurdly easy as they get late in their use life. It's mostly a cost and a mess factor." CreationDate="2020-11-30T14:47:04.270" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21167" PostId="9756" Score="0" Text="Gator roll - likely fine. Standing front-facelock throws.suplex - hansoku-make." CreationDate="2020-12-01T12:44:46.930" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21168" PostId="10257" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking Appreciate the comment/insight.  In my Chinese tradition, people train on hard floors, and I'm lucky to be able to on flagstones with irregularities like in the old days.  The softest surface I've free sparred on is grass or carpet.  (For pakua you can't use mats b/c you can't spin without wrenching the knee or ankle, and even grass ain't great.  Note that spins take place body to body, such that it's &quot;not turning your back&quot; on an opponent.)   But I also think safety is important, especially for kids!" CreationDate="2020-12-01T22:22:44.373" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21169" PostId="10257" Score="0" Text="@Mattm softer mats that protect the skull, made of modern materials.  (Don't use mats so not an expert on the subject.)  But I do think about safety, especially in teaching kids or adults without a high degree of physical training.  I've been thrown on tile, dirt and grass, but the level of physical training always kept me from getting hurt, in some cases even landing on my feet." CreationDate="2020-12-01T22:25:15.423" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21170" PostId="10257" Score="0" Text="@Mattm I was kind of famous for getting thrown on tile by one of my older brothers who was the best grappler when I stepped out of life.  It scandalized the other students that he would do it, but I appreciated it, and never got hurt b/c of the ability to use my waist to adjust in the air.  (It was important that he made me aware of my openings and vulnerabilities, and kept my ego in check;)" CreationDate="2020-12-01T22:27:25.533" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21171" PostId="1046" Score="0" Text="Also important to note that an opponents joints can be controlled without locking.  (Hsing Yi, for instance, uses &quot;tiger mouth&quot; to control the elbows, and, with sufficient root and &quot;stickiness&quot;, this can prevent an opponent of lesser skill from using the arms or kicking." CreationDate="2020-12-01T22:31:30.140" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21172" PostId="1195" Score="0" Text="It's true that Tai Chi is most prone to &quot;magical thinking&quot;, which is why my teacher avoided nonsense words like &quot;energy&quot; except in relation to caloric consumption (&quot;spending money&quot;) and to momentum put into a weapon such as a sword.  But uprooting is very real, all based on physics and physiology, and there can even be a psychological component such that masters often unbalance the opponent mentally before making contact, just by the way they approach." CreationDate="2020-12-01T22:33:53.690" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21173" PostId="10256" Score="0" Text="@JohnP &amp; Steve Wiegand Are there forms of katas which involve useful combinations?  (In wudang the form practice is central for training the body to generate power and movement from the waist, sinking of the joints, &amp; expanding/contracting the chest/upper back.  But individual movements have multiple applications, and there are sequences of movements that are highly practical.  For instance, a very quick front kick meant to lure an opponent into rushing in, followed by a finishing move such as &quot;taming the tiger&quot; which is a set of counters then simultaneous temple/kidney strike from inside.)" CreationDate="2020-12-01T22:45:57.237" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21174" PostId="1195" Score="0" Text="I think what is somewhat unique in tai chi training is the &quot;calm, relaxed&quot; requirement, which enhances sensitivity, and allows power to be generated with maximal effect.  But when I watch a master Judoka such as Kayla Harrison, I see the same principles in action.  One thing tai chi practitioners do seem to excel at is &quot;pushing into emptiness&quot;—having the sensitivity to uproot, push to get them moving, then push with focus into that motion.  (Pushing is done with the waist, not the arms—all that is required of the arms is a stable, rounded structure, &amp; forearms can be used instead of hands.)" CreationDate="2020-12-01T22:50:51.007" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21175" PostId="1049" Score="0" Text="I'd qualify this that the joints of a rooted opponent can certainly be controlled—elbows, knees and hips are ideal.  (In controlling the forearms with &quot;tiger mouth&quot;, a practitioner with sufficient internal technique can also make it impossible for the opponent to kick.)  But this requires &quot;heaviness&quot; &amp; &quot;stickiness&quot; in the arms than only comes via relaxation." CreationDate="2020-12-01T22:53:40.343" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21176" PostId="10256" Score="1" Text="Yes, all Okinawan karate styles generally practice kata bunkai. You can look it up on youtube. Bunkai will break down the movements of the kata into their practical self-defense application. These aren't made for sparring or fighting. They're made for self-defense. There's a difference." CreationDate="2020-12-01T23:02:57.477" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21177" PostId="10236" Score="1" Text="@Vorac Absolutely!  One must always factor in potential legal liability when involved in real world self defense.  (It's one of several reasons I stopped carrying a knife.)  [Always better to be gentle if possible](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/10264/7644), but I wanted to ask this question b/c some self defense situations involve a real threat to health and safety, and the defender may not have the skill to subdue without harming the opponent, i.e. they're on the ground but not yet incapacitated, and letting them get carries a dire threat." CreationDate="2020-12-01T23:28:45.650" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21178" PostId="1062" Score="0" Text="I'm finding &quot;free play&quot; is increasingly rare, but was gratified to learn that Master Zhou Xuan Yun (周玄云), now in New England, is teaching the old way, which includes free sparring, at least among his top students." CreationDate="2020-12-02T00:06:42.640" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21179" PostId="10236" Score="1" Text="Indeed a multiple attacker scenario warrants what you are asking about. Do consider specifying shoe type as toe inserts vs boots vs shoes makes a ton of difference." CreationDate="2020-12-02T00:08:24.820" UserId="485" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21180" PostId="955" Score="0" Text="Good answer about about distance and rhythm.  (It's been suggested to me that martial arts is all &quot;timing and distance&quot;.)  As I get older, I do more tai chi super slow, especially since now without a teacher, to make sure I'm not getting sloppy, and doing every technique of every movement.  But, while I can take 30 minutes to do Combined 67, I also practice as &quot;exhibition speed&quot; (~6 minutes), and combat speed (~3 minutes, doing every part of every movement clearly and with intent.)" CreationDate="2020-12-02T00:24:28.013" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21181" PostId="955" Score="0" Text="My teacher was also famous for making tai chi and tai chi sword interesting &amp; engaging to watch, by varying pace, instead of aggressively boring the audience by using a single pace throughout!  (Fencing requires quick, light footwork!  The way tai chi sword is usually practiced has limited value for this reason:)" CreationDate="2020-12-02T00:26:23.683" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21182" PostId="8610" Score="0" Text="This is reliable link for [&quot;The 13 Postures and 13 Principles in Tai Chi Chuan&quot;](https://www.taichiandqigong.com/articles/the-13-postures-and-13-principles-in-tai-chi-chuan/)" CreationDate="2020-12-02T00:28:03.970" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21183" PostId="10264" Score="3" Text="Master Kan: &quot;Avoid, rather than check. Check, rather than hurt. Hurt, rather than maim. Maim, rather than kill. For all life is precious, nor can any be replaced.&quot; -- &quot;Kung Fu&quot;, the original series." CreationDate="2020-12-02T01:54:04.090" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21184" PostId="10264" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand Exactly.  (It's so well understood it appears in the show Bruce Lee set up:)  Gracie &quot;Rules of Engagement&quot; I've seen are also an expression of this, essentially &quot;Submit without escalating&quot;, they just avoid the part about how jujitsu can be used to disable or kill. The Kung Fu quote is also consistent with Buddhism, and is the main reason the primary weapon of Shaolin monks is staff." CreationDate="2020-12-02T02:11:46.727" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21185" PostId="10264" Score="0" Text="It's a nice thought anyway. But in practice, most martial artists are deluded in this regard. It is possible to do, but only with good training. I'll tell you just about all kung-fu doesn't apply. Nor karate. Nor classical jujitsu. Etc. Those styles don't train like MMA, Judo, BJJ, Muay Thai, Boxing, Wrestling, etc. trains. That's needed in order to have a core skill that can put you in a position to do whatever you want to your opponent while not getting hurt yourself. You get to decide, and if it means not hurting him, that's your decision. But most martial artists don't have that privilege." CreationDate="2020-12-02T02:27:07.297" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21186" PostId="10264" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand It really depends on the school I think, in terms of training.  But the impetus for Judo was to be a gentle art, and it can certainly be applied gently in the real world, as can all forms of grappling.  I think the point of jujitsu, aikido and chin-na is that, if the skill differential is sufficient, upon neutralizing an enemy's attack, the superior practitioner can control the opponent's body with wristlocks and other techniques, as opportunity arises. (All of which are also breaks or dislocations re: incapacitate.)  But that's how &quot;come along quietly&quot; was explained to me." CreationDate="2020-12-02T02:41:06.060" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21187" PostId="10264" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand Another observation is that the popularity of arts like &quot;kung fu&quot; and karate has led to quality control issues in terms of teaching, where there can be great variance, and disconnection from the traditional methods.  Additionally, not everyone is training for the sport of MMA, but for their sport fighting competitions or exhibitions.  But self defense is a separate domain, and there it's like Shioda says, or &quot;Gracie Rules&quot; (i.e. no rules, no gloves, no water breaks, no time limit, with victory only by submission or KO.)" CreationDate="2020-12-02T02:56:28.513" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21188" PostId="10264" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand  I've read that Kimura found value in Karate for strengthening the body for Judo &amp; Jujitsu, but I don't know of him challenging Oyama, and Oyama definitely learned Judo, but is known for Karate..." CreationDate="2020-12-02T03:01:42.853" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21189" PostId="10264" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand  As an example, the hsing yi response to tai boxing is to straight into the throat with &quot;tiger mouth&quot; full force, and they can just keep doing that for an hour.  You can't throw a tai chi master, much less unbalance them.  And I have no doubt the same applies to traditional karate (Oyama didn't study judo for no reason.)" CreationDate="2020-12-02T03:15:19.543" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21190" PostId="10264" Score="0" Text="I'm not sure you understand what I'm saying. I think you're probably hanging on to traditional martial arts, and you haven't been convinced it's how you train that really matters. I would just point you to some of the answers I've written already on this subject:&#xA;https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/4806/are-there-any-effective-kung-fu-fighters-in-mma/4807#4807&#xA;https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/9753/effectiveness-of-bujinkan-ninjutsu/9755#9755&#xA;https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/3029/is-jun-chong-tkd-a-legitimate-tkd-dojo-for-self-defense/3030#3030" CreationDate="2020-12-02T04:04:26.923" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21191" PostId="10264" Score="0" Text="And this one: https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/8890/danzan-ryu-jiu-jitsu-for-self-defense/8894#8894  ... A total of 4 links." CreationDate="2020-12-02T04:05:02.913" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21192" PostId="10264" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand I guess I'm just not sure how this discussion of &quot;MMA is the only valid martial art&quot; is relevant as commentary to this question.  (tbh it really feels like more of a chat discussion.)" CreationDate="2020-12-02T04:21:20.700" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21193" PostId="10264" Score="0" Text="Well what I'm getting at is that you can't even begin to consider applying the altruistic ideal of controlling the level of force you use against someone in a fight if you haven't trained in a way that gives you reliable skill at fighting. What gives you that skill and what is the skill that I'm talking about? How do you train for that skill? That's answered in my links above." CreationDate="2020-12-02T04:28:18.940" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21194" PostId="1195" Score="0" Text="@DukeZhou Coaches in boxing, judo, muay Thai, and BJJ all emphasize calm and relaxation in technique, both in the literature and in my experience being coached. In each of those combat sports, removing tension is a primary goal of skill development, and there are drills to develop it. That's why I see taiji's claim to uniqueness on that point to be false." CreationDate="2020-12-02T09:04:21.493" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21195" PostId="1195" Score="0" Text="Similarly, the psychological component you describe is vital in judo's kuzushi, boxing and JKD principles of timing, and BJJ combinations." CreationDate="2020-12-02T09:06:19.900" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21196" PostId="1195" Score="0" Text="All in all, I find the responses to this point illuminating. Downvotes and non-sequitor negative comments, but no counterpoints. Taiji folks seem to be extremely attached to the idea that they're doing something special unlike anyone else, rather than being part of a worldwide group effort to find true and effective techniques that share common principles. If kuzushi is so different from uprooting, then say how! Describe the difference! But people prefer to downvote." CreationDate="2020-12-02T09:09:25.420" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21197" PostId="10256" Score="1" Text="@DukeZhou - Yes, although almost all kata is highly stylized, you can take segments as self defense. That's one of my instructors favorite things to do is break down parts of our forms into practical self defense. You generally have to modify them somewhat, but it gives a much better sense of the purpose behind the prescribed moves." CreationDate="2020-12-02T14:42:17.930" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21200" PostId="10264" Score="0" Text="@DukeZhou translating &quot;ju&quot; with &quot;gentle is convenient, yet problematic. A proper translation would be &quot;with minimal effort&quot;. And the minimal effort can be quite hard and brutal depending on the goal. A broken hip is certainly not gentle, yet the most common outcome of throwing an opponent without breakfall practice on concrete." CreationDate="2020-12-02T22:16:24.340" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21201" PostId="10264" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking And yet I've been thrown by Judokas on dirt and grass and they've never hurt me b/c they weren't trying to hurt me.  Grappling itself has been promoted in the past to reduce injuries from fighting (for instance with troops, who the commander want to keep in combat readiness.)  Another example is Harrison's submissions vs. the way she brutalized her King with elbow strikes.  It was gratifying to see ground&amp;pound executed at a different level from previous fighters, but bloody and unnecessary." CreationDate="2020-12-03T01:26:07.037" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21203" PostId="10236" Score="0" Text="@Vorac What do you call a martial artist who is jumped by only one attacker?  (Lucky;)" CreationDate="2020-12-03T01:33:05.667" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21204" PostId="8195" Score="1" Text="Hsing Yi works well against boxing because of level changes (stepping in to a very low stance and drilling into the groin, level change to an oblique collarbone strike, level change back to low for another drilling groin strike, repeat, plus stomps with all of those moves.)  I was taught Hsing Yi for self-defense by a master who was a former boxer, and switched b/c they found it better for real world self defense." CreationDate="2020-12-03T01:43:10.387" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21205" PostId="10256" Score="0" Text="@JohnP I come from what was originally a fighting lineage, although my teacher switched to gentle later in life.  But the forms are there to maintain the techniques validated by that last generation of life-of-death fighters, which are ideally researched and refined further, and re-validated with each generation.  (Some things are discarded, some added, some aspects emphasized, some de-emphasized.)  Am I correct that this is also the karate tradition in regard to self defense application?" CreationDate="2020-12-03T01:53:53.407" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21206" PostId="10268" Score="0" Text="Dave, thank you. I don't think BJJ practitioners always get the deserved praise for this aspect of that art, and how they used this principle to launch modern MMA.  (Speaking personally, I much prefer submission victories in MMA to brutality and knockouts, as gratifying as it can be to see any martial technique executed well, including strikes.  But it's a kind of conflicted appreciation in the latter case.)" CreationDate="2020-12-03T01:57:35.870" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21207" PostId="10256" Score="0" Text="The idea that the forms are based on movements that were used successfully in fights/battle is very common. But it's more like: So-n-so master made this form after meditating, or watching some animal, etc. Much of what is in traditional martial arts is conceptual. Ie, theory. It may have worked in some cases, but that's not a high bar. You need to start with theory and then test. Then modify based on the test results. Don't assume anything doesn't need testing or is too precious to discard. What each gen says is valid is filtered through their own beliefs and understanding, not often tested." CreationDate="2020-12-03T02:15:53.547" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21208" PostId="8195" Score="0" Text="@DukeZhou Never heard of Hsing Yi. It should be interesting." CreationDate="2020-12-03T04:28:29.607" UserId="4367" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21209" PostId="10256" Score="1" Text="@DukeZhou - Also what Steve W said. Forms anymore in the majority of styles are to learn and reinforce the learning of the techniques being taught in the class. Can the sequences be used in self defense? Sure, but that really isn't the purpose behind the form. That's what in class sparring, fighting and ground fighting is for." CreationDate="2020-12-03T14:28:27.673" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21210" PostId="10270" Score="0" Text="I think the last sentence is the most important here: If we are speaking about real-life self-defense applications, breaking the collarbone is not a worthwhile goal on the first place. The same force, applied to the face, will probably prove to be more effective." CreationDate="2020-12-03T22:52:44.733" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21212" PostId="10267" Score="0" Text="As a &quot;complete&quot; set of movements, doesn't this imply that basically all taiji fighting combinations can be built from these?" CreationDate="2020-12-06T17:48:32.160" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21213" PostId="10199" Score="1" Text="@BatWannaBe: agree there's TKD influence on kicking (e.g. in the gliding side thrusting kick he was fond of), and some Hapkido influence too.  Filipino martial arts was another influence - Dan Inosanto being a famous student &amp; training partner." CreationDate="2020-12-08T15:38:07.453" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21214" PostId="10278" Score="1" Text="I'm running this past summer of my friends into guns, but https://www.wikihow.com/Do-a-Tactical-Quickdraw-With-a-Pistol?amp=1 looks like a good start." CreationDate="2020-12-08T21:06:06.603" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21215" PostId="2621" Score="0" Text="If someone is charging at you at 10+ mph (15+ km/h) you won't be able to do a headbutt. If they're bigger/heavier than you, standing there and doing a straight punch will might land one, but then you'll be tackled." CreationDate="2020-12-09T18:20:47.313" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21216" PostId="10267" Score="0" Text="@mattm I think that is the idea in calling it complete, b/c all other movements will include some combination of those elements.  But it **doesn't include** the fist so not complete in the sense of ch'uan.  You make a good point that, although Tai Chi can be applied as a &quot;gentle art&quot;, pushing, locking &amp; throwing, it also includes brutal strikes, dislocations and breaks.  Thus heavy emphasis on Grasp Bird's Tail &quot;is considered...&quot;" CreationDate="2020-12-09T23:21:05.660" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21217" PostId="10273" Score="0" Text="I like your answer, but why take anything off the menu?  (i.e. if an attacker is good at defending the face and groin.)  Collarbone strike can be used to weaken their guard.  And, if you've already broken it, additional strikes to the target might even make the opponent flinch.  I personally would use this, with level changes, to open up the eventual target of the knee or foot, to take away the opponent's mobility and end the conflict." CreationDate="2020-12-09T23:49:40.673" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21218" PostId="10270" Score="0" Text="Definitely not a determinative strike!  But, if combat extends for a long enough period, adrenaline and endorphins may reduce, such that pain surfaces.  And it definitely doesn't *enhance* the opponent's capability." CreationDate="2020-12-09T23:51:27.120" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21219" PostId="10270" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking I agree but see my comment to John P's answer on using it to open the guard for definitive strikes.  Strategy is as important as technique, in my experience." CreationDate="2020-12-09T23:52:21.710" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21220" PostId="10279" Score="0" Text="I'd definitely take a katana over a firearm if the invader has to come around a tight corner—they still have to aim, but katana just cuts." CreationDate="2020-12-09T23:56:37.163" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21221" PostId="10276" Score="0" Text="Just wanted to let you know I didn't downvote this.  (Actually upvoted b/c you make a good point about real fighting—one needs to have been in real fights b/c most people freeze up the first time.  You need to get punched in the face, in the body, kicked, locked, thrown, and wrestled, even if the ultimate goal is ensuring none of those things happen.)" CreationDate="2020-12-10T00:00:51.410" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21222" PostId="9592" Score="1" Text="I don't have an answer, but man do I love those unexpected direction changes!  Such a brilliant art, and gratifying to see that some MMA competitors are able to pull it off." CreationDate="2020-12-10T00:15:45.547" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21223" PostId="10256" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand Good point.  (Although this is not about tai chi, that art is widely misunderstood as a set of forms and application, as opposed to a method of movement, often referred to as &quot;technique&quot;.)  Always important to test and validate, thus my interest in the methods of karate training.  I personally find old-school karate (not kickboxing style) to be more formidable than most other martial arts b/c the kicks and punches are so rooted and powerful, and it's so no-nonsense.  Versatility is great, but there's much to be said for focusing on a small number of &quot;bread&amp;butter&quot; techniques." CreationDate="2020-12-10T00:33:56.203" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21224" PostId="10272" Score="0" Text="Thanks for 1.  (One of the reasons I like tai chi is the primary goal is maintaining your own health, even in combat, and this is even said to confer some advantage.  It typically results in tiring an opponent while waiting for openings that can be exploited definitively, if not exploiting openings created by attacks at the outset.)  Maintaining  your health, or the health of others, can require disabling or even killing an opponent, but it always best to apply the least amount of force necessary to achieve the goal." CreationDate="2020-12-10T00:40:08.183" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21225" PostId="8973" Score="0" Text="Great answer!  I'd also say as a male, groin protector is counter-productive for self defense b/c it may result in lax guard of that area.  (One exception is being a Uke where your job is specifically to get kicked in the [blanks]&quot;;)" CreationDate="2020-12-10T00:51:20.713" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21226" PostId="10094" Score="0" Text="One note re: the utility of brass knuckles is [trench knife](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trench_knife).  These knives were designed by soldiers for close quarters combat, originally in trenches.  The soldiers who used them used them in life-or-death conflict, and they were clearly effective, otherwise their use would not have persisted.  But brass knuckles take away all hand techniques but the punch, and can be said to be disadvantageous for this reason." CreationDate="2020-12-10T01:01:16.613" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21227" PostId="10210" Score="0" Text="I appreciate the emphasis.  Most modern practice swords use a screw design tang, usually extremely narrow even before the screw.  Such swords are not suitable for sparring b/c of the weakness of this design vs. traditional tangs." CreationDate="2020-12-10T01:05:11.653" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21228" PostId="9364" Score="0" Text="(Any way you can think to pronounce it, [there is probably a Chinese dialect in which it is correct](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varieties_of_Chinese)—I've heard it said there are as many as 200.  Over 30 years I've heard it pronounced in a dozen ways:)" CreationDate="2020-12-10T01:11:26.400" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21229" PostId="960" Score="0" Text="You should be able to push not just with the arms (hands or forearms), but the shoulder or hips, in pretty much any direction, although shoulder/hips have more limited range of movements.  Leg techniques from the natural high stance are also a form of both striking to displace (&quot;sweep&quot;), or controlling/pushing the leg to displace (&quot;leg separation&quot;)." CreationDate="2020-12-10T01:14:38.400" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21231" PostId="960" Score="0" Text="In push hands, I never think about applications, just countering with the waist to gain advantage and push.  (The application by which this is effected is corollary, and should arise naturally.)  But, weakness in an opponent's technique, typically poor elbow sinking in fixed foot pushing, often guides the response that occurs.  Thinking about a particular application to apply, in my experience, often results in being pushed, pulled or uprooted." CreationDate="2020-12-10T01:32:42.827" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21232" PostId="10267" Score="0" Text="&quot;Deflect, Intercept, Punch&quot; is probably considered the foundational fist technique.  (That's what I was taught anyway.  When applied properly, it almost impossible to block, and the fist can be used for striking *or* pushing.)" CreationDate="2020-12-10T01:38:12.670" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21233" PostId="1053" Score="0" Text="Good point about fixed foot making this application more accessible. (Basic drag also seems to work well in fixed foot. Also simple &quot;fair lady works the shuttle&quot;.)" CreationDate="2020-12-10T02:17:40.697" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21234" PostId="1053" Score="0" Text="That &quot;2011 International Classic Taiji Performance&quot; video is why my teacher required us to push forearm to forearm, as opposed close to the wrist.  (Drag, for instance, can be done with forearms only.)  Using the hands has the disadvantage of hand strength (brute force) being a factor.  Hands are often used to push, but only after countering and gaining advantage by use of the forearms." CreationDate="2020-12-10T02:21:46.950" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21235" PostId="10276" Score="0" Text="Haha. Well someone thinks I'm a moron. Doesn't bother me that I got down-voted. Thing is, what I said is important. People often get confused by the distinction between what is termed as &quot;self-defense&quot; and &quot;fighting&quot;. Most martial arts teach self-defense. They don't teach how to fight. And it's why black belts often do poorly in real fights. They learned a bunch of stuff, but it was self-defense material, not fighting. They think they're learning how to fight, and they find out the hard way one day that they don't know how to fight. A quick MMA style sparring session is very enlightening." CreationDate="2020-12-10T03:46:29.783" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21236" PostId="10256" Score="0" Text="My instructor once quoted his instructor (Chen Qingzhou) on the subject of Taiji forms: &quot;The movements in the form just give you something martial to do while practicing the internal mechanics.&quot; To some, the forms are everything. To others, they're just something to do which will get you further, but they're not the end." CreationDate="2020-12-10T03:56:13.573" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21238" PostId="10282" Score="0" Text="The [Cheng Man-ching push hands video](https://youtu.be/QrLZI4peNR4) linked in Goodson's answer illustrates these principles." CreationDate="2020-12-10T05:06:37.600" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21239" PostId="10281" Score="1" Text="&quot;True masters must be able to &quot;guarantee 100%&quot;, and can't be seen to lose in sparring for obvious reasons&quot; --&gt; this is a toxic and eventually self-defeating cultural value. BJJ and other grappling styles have a similar &quot;invest in loss&quot; culture, and it's clear as day that instructors who think they are above that rule rapidly lose what made them good in the first place. +1 for everything except the last two grafs." CreationDate="2020-12-10T09:33:38.887" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21240" PostId="10273" Score="1" Text="Because you specified &quot;...most practical ways to break the collarbone, ideally not requiring specialization...&quot;. Personally I'd never target the collarbone specifically, I'd be going after the pressure points in the neck, brachial stun, that sort of thing if I am attacking the head. A good hammer strike in that area can do a lot of collateral damage enabling further techniques." CreationDate="2020-12-10T14:21:36.130" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21241" PostId="10287" Score="0" Text="I'm having a hard time imagining protecting the neck and removing the hooks at the same time, is there a video demonstrating this?" CreationDate="2020-12-12T13:43:40.870" UserId="10450" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21242" PostId="10288" Score="0" Text="Standing back control with hooks is pretty common — see Urijah Faber with the [body triangle &amp; RNC against Ivan Menjivar](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.com%2Fpin%2F395190936021801267%2F&amp;psig=AOvVaw0Kh95HaPS9-lCSjjqQILuQ&amp;ust=1608022295446000&amp;source=images&amp;cd=vfe&amp;ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCIDCoJeMze0CFQAAAAAdAAAAABAI) or Marcelo Garcia's &quot;backpack&quot; attacks or this pic of [Ryan Hall on Diego Sanchez's back](http://www.grapplearts.com/images/Article-Images/ryanhall/on-diego-sanchez-back-superfight.jpg)." CreationDate="2020-12-14T08:54:18.533" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21243" PostId="10287" Score="1" Text="@BatWannaBe I don't have an instructional video on hand. It's definitely a &quot;you done fucked up a long time ago&quot; type situation :) so your difficulty imagining it is definitely valid! Either they haven't secured the seatbelt grip and can't yet threaten the choke so I deal with the hips, or I deal with the arms first (while bouncing to shake them out of position) and then switch one or both arms to pushing a knee down while I tuck my chin." CreationDate="2020-12-14T09:37:55.620" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21244" PostId="10287" Score="0" Text="Demian Maia versus Jacare Souza has an extended standing-back-control battle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwbdQNaA2ks" CreationDate="2020-12-14T09:39:55.257" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21245" PostId="10288" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann That's interesting. This is a position that I have certainly never ended up in during rolling/sparring, nor have I witnessed it myself, so I assumed that it was rare. The OP even said &quot;it's rare to see&quot;." CreationDate="2020-12-14T14:07:40.243" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21246" PostId="10288" Score="0" Text="It requires both players to use tactics that are slightly unusual in a pure BJJ context, plus room to train standing, which is discouraged in many BJJ gyms." CreationDate="2020-12-14T15:57:20.033" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21247" PostId="8612" Score="0" Text="Your article criticizes &quot;Competition Push Hands&quot;, defining it as &quot;an off-balancing game of feigned relaxation while using speed and strength to overpower your opponent.&quot; Why would anyone want to learn a tai chi that can't overcome speed and strength? Isn't that the entire point of tai chi — four ounces defeats a thousand pounds or something?" CreationDate="2020-12-14T19:25:03.370" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21248" PostId="10289" Score="1" Text="Is what you are asking whether the location of the got it's more important than the amount of force?" CreationDate="2020-12-14T19:39:05.047" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21250" PostId="10273" Score="0" Text="Thanks for commenting.  It makes sense to go for the neck over the collarbone, if you can hit it, and attacking the nerves is more gentle than attacking the windpipe!  (Probably many of those karate strikes I see that could be used for collarbone are neck strikes, as you explicate.)" CreationDate="2020-12-14T23:03:50.590" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21251" PostId="10281" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Perhaps, but I think we have to distinguish from students, teachers, and low level masters, compared to true masters, who are rare such that you'll only have a handful in any given generation who are truly peerless, or effectively so.  Think about it in this context—if you're holding a push-hands seminar, you can't allow yourself to be bested by any of the attendees.  (That's why I don't teach push hands seminars, preferring to teach that aspect in class only.)  In tai chi I think it's less toxic—more about &quot;if you practice hard, you can attain this.&quot;" CreationDate="2020-12-14T23:11:30.920" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21252" PostId="10281" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann But you do make a very important point about toxic thinking, so I've amended the answer to more fully explicate the points you justifiably critiqued regarding true masters." CreationDate="2020-12-14T23:29:49.007" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21253" PostId="10285" Score="0" Text="This answer supports the utility of grappling in the case of the shouting approaching threat—grapplers are looking for body to body contact, and can counter with the least amount of escalation, or even without escalation in the case of submitting or pushing.  Also useful to be able to look natural in guard position, via gesture, for instance one hand is closer to waist level and one at shoulder level, sufficiently extended—such gestures can even look like supplication (re: surprise:)" CreationDate="2020-12-15T01:19:45.810" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21254" PostId="10287" Score="0" Text="Yeah it really does look like you have two remote places to defend. In that fight, I think it helped the defender when the referee moved them because the attacker slipped down enough that he couldn't immediately try a choke, and the defender was smart enough to seize the pants to stop him from leaping higher." CreationDate="2020-12-15T01:26:37.453" UserId="10450" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21255" PostId="10288" Score="0" Text="From the few times I've seen it, the back take happens on the ground or as the defender is standing back up from a turtle-ish position. Not sure why they thought standing would help, though. Like you mentioned, I've seen more consistent escapes from back control on the ground when the legs aren't occupied keeping two people up." CreationDate="2020-12-15T01:42:11.713" UserId="10450" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21256" PostId="10199" Score="0" Text="@BatWannaBe Good call on Hapkido influence!  My sense is that Lee must have studied longboxing as a kid, which wouldn't have been uncommon, based on his kicking stances, but discarded the more exotic movements and punching.  (I think that's why so many of his kicking looks more like karate or even traditional shaolin.)" CreationDate="2020-12-15T02:34:24.297" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21257" PostId="5610" Score="0" Text="One can't expect Benedict Cumberbatch to properly execute a martial technique on film!  (Look how long it took Keanu to become convincing in John Wick!  Dude trained hard under a legit master for more than 10 years, and still not in the league of the action stars who trained their whole lives.)" CreationDate="2020-12-15T18:40:43.000" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21258" PostId="5605" Score="0" Text="The basic structure of this lock has utility in the real world against untrained opponents—typical bouncer move—but is generally practiced with the other hand controlling the elbow to force the opponent's shoulder up at a poor angle for response.  One would need to be a legit jujitsu or chin-na master to make it work one-handed." CreationDate="2020-12-15T18:41:59.300" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21259" PostId="952" Score="0" Text="Fu style has also gotten more attention recently, arising from Bagua Dragon Palm.  [This video is the the third generation pure lineage](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teySe_DILxY), although hsingyi focusing is considered by many to be the specialty Fu Shen-long, and it was his father Fu Wing-fay who most most advanced Fu tai chi. Here's a video of Liang Yi, a [fusion between bagua and tai chi](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s5AXn9AUUo).  In the Shen-long video you can see the characteristic waist technique, extension, leg sweeps &amp; kicking in &quot;step back &amp; repulse monkey.&quot;" CreationDate="2020-12-15T19:02:30.137" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21260" PostId="952" Score="0" Text="Note that Fu Zhensong first learned Chen style, and later in exchanged ideas with Sun Lu-t'ang and Yang Chengfu, learning those styles from those masters." CreationDate="2020-12-15T19:07:07.827" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21261" PostId="5605" Score="0" Text="But doing it just with the thumb as in the movie is pure fiction.  (Here I think the intent is to convey that the character is a high-level master who is pushing some sort of imaginary pressure point with his thumb and front knuckle.)" CreationDate="2020-12-15T22:32:21.463" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21262" PostId="5607" Score="0" Text="True—it's a terrible, fake lock.  Pure fiction.  But, as for the general position of the opponent's arm, you can make it hurt, and even hurt the opponent's shoulder, if you control the elbow and they don't know the counter." CreationDate="2020-12-15T22:35:54.537" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21263" PostId="10297" Score="0" Text="Note: I've seen [kubi nage](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClkSYVSL50A), but practiced safely, and I'm thinking also of throws that cannot be practiced safely, or throws can be practiced either safely and unsafely, and how they differ.)" CreationDate="2020-12-16T00:28:57.217" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21264" PostId="10297" Score="1" Text="My first thought is the wrestling snap-mare, but I don't know how realistic it is. Actually, come to think of it, the DDT kind of fits too and I've seen people use that in fights." CreationDate="2020-12-16T01:14:40.937" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21265" PostId="10297" Score="0" Text="@MacacoBranco The neck grapples I'm most thinking of in my systems come from bagua, and the worst is when it's essentially a reverse headlock, back to back." CreationDate="2020-12-16T01:17:06.617" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21268" PostId="10297" Score="1" Text="I think more basic: In no-gi grappling and wrestling, one of the primary holds is the back of the neck. Wrestling in particular will pull that neck down with the entire body very aggressively. It's not a throw in and of itself, but it's a fundamental technique common to all grappling styles." CreationDate="2020-12-16T04:39:42.650" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21269" PostId="10297" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand That's how I see certain bagua holds being used, but it should be possible to tuck and make the throw from that back to back position I described to Macaco.  (My sense is this has a high probability of breaking the neck, which is why I suspect I've only been set up for it then pushed or dropped to the ground, as opposed to thrown.)" CreationDate="2020-12-16T04:48:29.183" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21270" PostId="8947" Score="1" Text="I haven't downvoted, b/c the answer contains much useful, relevant information.  But I object in the strongest terms to: &quot;First off, the intention of dance is not at all relevant.&quot;  I'd argue that it is precisely intention which separates the greatest dancers from the chorus, even where that intention is abstract in the sense of movement and gesture.  I've found that people with ballet backgrounds in particular have higher aptitude for moving with intention in tai chi and other internal martial arts. (In a martial exhibition, this can involve &quot;selling the move&quot; to captivate the audience.)" CreationDate="2020-12-16T04:55:03.903" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21271" PostId="8945" Score="0" Text="Downvoted because I think it not correct to say that one form of movement practice doesn't enhance others in at least some ways, however subtle.  My sense is that martial arts and dance have been linked since humans sat around campfires re-enacting hunts and battles.  Every kata is, in some sense, a form of [haka](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haka)." CreationDate="2020-12-16T05:09:02.627" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21272" PostId="10305" Score="0" Text="Thanks for this answer.  I noticed that in the video I linked, they brace the arm against the uke's shoulder to avoid pressure directly to the neck.  Let me know if there are any judo vids you find exemplary." CreationDate="2020-12-16T05:12:35.880" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21274" PostId="8945" Score="0" Text="@DukeZhou Yes, there's something to be said for learning movement in general. But I found that dancing was the opposite vibe as martial arts. It's about communicating with your partner in a harmonious way. You both are one, linked together, playfully cooperating. The feeling is very different from martial arts. And as I discussed in the answer I posted, the method in which it's learned is also very different. I was pretty frustrated learning to dance, coming from a martial arts background, as you read. I think my general advice is correct, though: Go in with no expectations. Don't compare." CreationDate="2020-12-16T06:42:47.080" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21275" PostId="10279" Score="0" Text="@DukeZhou perhaps I misunderstood Bru's answer. My reading is &quot;in tight quarters, have one arm free for hand combat(probably stretched foreward to clear space), have the other arm at the waist with the gun aimed forward&quot;. Zero aiming. The katana guy cuts the hand off, gets 3 holes in the chest and stomach." CreationDate="2020-12-16T07:28:20.677" UserId="485" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21276" PostId="10279" Score="0" Text="@Vorac&#xA;Your reading is perfectly right. Thanks." CreationDate="2020-12-16T08:05:27.987" UserId="10685" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21277" PostId="10307" Score="0" Text="In which direction did your teammate fall?" CreationDate="2020-12-16T12:51:00.980" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21278" PostId="10299" Score="2" Text="Effective for what?" CreationDate="2020-12-16T13:15:15.637" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21279" PostId="517" Score="0" Text="With all respect, that &quot;Systema&quot; is much more about marketing than real sport. It is somewhat similar to, say, Krav Maga (even description is similar - something &quot;combat&quot;), but with russian decorations. Or similar to zumba classes - you have to buy franchise and courses to be allowed to teach. Russian ministery of defence rejects any facts of usage of that &quot;Systema&quot;. And I very-very doubt if it is because its &quot;super-secret-and-very-deadly&quot; properties." CreationDate="2020-12-16T13:17:33.533" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21280" PostId="10308" Score="0" Text="I really like this answer.  I believe the SE expression is a peal?" CreationDate="2020-12-16T13:31:21.653" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21281" PostId="10308" Score="0" Text="Thanks! What's &quot;SE&quot;? I've never heard of a &quot;peal&quot; in martial arts." CreationDate="2020-12-16T13:32:38.167" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21282" PostId="10308" Score="0" Text="Sorry pearl. A good answer SE is Stack exchange." CreationDate="2020-12-16T14:00:32.640" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21284" PostId="10308" Score="0" Text="Ahhhhhh right! Thank you :)" CreationDate="2020-12-16T14:45:38.623" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21285" PostId="10307" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann if I remember correctly, he fell a little forward and to the side" CreationDate="2020-12-16T14:54:43.880" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21286" PostId="10308" Score="0" Text="This is a great answer. One thing I will make clear if I didn't before is that both his legs were trapped when he fell, so landing on all fours or rolling out is particularly hard." CreationDate="2020-12-16T14:56:29.307" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21287" PostId="10308" Score="0" Text="@LemmyX Judo coaches are consistent that posting with an arm is a Bad Idea unless you rrrreally know what you're doing (i.e. you're good at turnouts and your legs aren't trapped). In this scenario I'd say your teammate should've landed on their flank or back, or tried to post without resisting in order to execute a [front fall](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUaIRS-Na_I)." CreationDate="2020-12-16T15:25:36.080" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21288" PostId="10308" Score="0" Text="Ahh, that makes sense. Thanks" CreationDate="2020-12-16T15:33:11.557" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21289" PostId="10305" Score="0" Text="@DukeZhou Exemplary in what way?" CreationDate="2020-12-16T16:29:27.250" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21290" PostId="10307" Score="0" Text="I've done this before at home of all places. Stupidly locked my arm out. It didn't break my arm, but it did mess up my shoulder joint pretty bad. It healed on its own, but it's still kind of cranky every now and then. I didn't have the option of rolling out of it or turn to my side for a side breakfall, as there was a ton of hard, pointy objects on the floor at the time. Oh well." CreationDate="2020-12-16T20:12:41.427" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21291" PostId="10299" Score="0" Text="In order to answer that question finger locks would first have to be legal to use in sparring. I don't know of any legitimate venues that allow them. Finger locks come on too fast to tap out in time so you'd just wind up with all your fighters nursing broken fingers." CreationDate="2020-12-16T22:55:10.493" UserId="7825" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21293" PostId="10291" Score="0" Text="I would say it's very unauthentic, but not based on if moviemakers studied and adapted Wing Chun faithfully, so I'm not making this an answer. It's because the fights are choreographed to tell a story, so there's a rhythm and unrealistic gimmicks (like dueling on a tabletop)." CreationDate="2020-12-17T12:23:05.823" UserId="10450" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21294" PostId="10307" Score="0" Text="The answers to this other question on breakfalls are also relevant: https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/2354/5961" CreationDate="2020-12-17T12:59:57.457" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21295" PostId="10212" Score="0" Text="Well it depends what you mean by &quot;disarming an opponent with a straight sword&quot; - removing the opponent's arms using a straight sword? Or doing that while having had it done to you (being &quot;unarmed&quot;)? Awaiting clarification." CreationDate="2020-12-17T18:10:36.027" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21296" PostId="10229" Score="0" Text="&quot;Expert knife fighter&quot; - oy. How many people get into multiple knife fights in their lives, much less enough of them to acquire 1970s-movie ninjalike skills with a knife? Reminds me of Youtube video titles like &quot;MMA Black Belt Vs Street Fighter!&quot;." CreationDate="2020-12-17T18:13:16.480" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21297" PostId="10312" Score="0" Text="I’m voting to close this question because it barely relates to martial arts" CreationDate="2020-12-18T13:58:19.873" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21298" PostId="10312" Score="1" Text="This really more of a general health question than anything. There are also extensive writeups available on the types of hearing damage (extensive) that can result from the noise that firearms make." CreationDate="2020-12-18T14:20:51.947" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21299" PostId="10312" Score="1" Text="Eh, I'd see this as befitting training injuries..." CreationDate="2020-12-18T15:39:24.437" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21300" PostId="517" Score="0" Text="@user2501323 The general problem with anything labelled &quot;Systema&quot; is that the &quot;founders&quot; visited some seminars on combat sambo and shoehorned something together with their own (quite serious) abilities and experiences. So it comes from a very valid, scientifically grounded origin over two guys who certainly are impressive themselves. Some coaches who are thoroughly trained and intelligent may even produce serious training. But the core - combat sambo - is so diluted in most cases that it is completely delusional and simply rubbish. It is worse than a lottery who you get." CreationDate="2020-12-18T21:30:00.467" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21301" PostId="10312" Score="0" Text="@JohnP earplugs? Really? In a self-defence situation?! Martial arts are not only about painting and singing." CreationDate="2020-12-19T02:14:21.590" UserId="485" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21302" PostId="10313" Score="0" Text="Are you referring to a specific art, or do you mean in any art?" CreationDate="2020-12-19T06:13:05.920" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21303" PostId="10313" Score="0" Text="There are definitely people who claim a rank or proficiency that was never granted by a superior or an authority. Unfortunately they are often frauds and con artists. One of the purposes of a rank is community recognition, so I've never heard of a serious martial artist doing this against their superiors' wills." CreationDate="2020-12-19T09:47:38.637" UserId="10450" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21304" PostId="10313" Score="0" Text="@BatWannaBe That is an answer." CreationDate="2020-12-19T12:32:47.910" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21305" PostId="10315" Score="0" Text="What do you mean by horrific? I was under the impression that Ben Askren was a highly accomplished wrestler who used it as his main strength in MMA." CreationDate="2020-12-20T07:35:03.063" UserId="10450" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21306" PostId="10318" Score="0" Text="Arm locks are legal in judo. I'm not clear what you mean by &quot;submission tactics&quot;." CreationDate="2020-12-20T07:40:01.737" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21307" PostId="10315" Score="1" Text="@BatWannaBe Horrific in the sense of intimidating, terrifying" CreationDate="2020-12-20T07:40:08.397" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21308" PostId="10316" Score="0" Text="Maybe they should solely determine dan ranks by winning matches or bringing up students who win matches." CreationDate="2020-12-20T07:40:57.663" UserId="10450" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21309" PostId="10106" Score="0" Text="As a further note, I reached out to the Chun Kuk Do organization and they do not recognize the form from my description or remembered name. They believe my instructor may have brought it in from another style." CreationDate="2020-12-20T14:38:22.230" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21310" PostId="10312" Score="3" Text="@Vorac: Eyeh, like I said, I see this one as a bit borderline, since guns are often not considered in martial arts other than disarms and the like, but I acknowledge that they do fit within the continuum. That said, it is a bit more of a remote case, and the question was posed devoid of extra details that explicitly tie it to martial arts. FWIW, the answer seems very variable." CreationDate="2020-12-20T14:39:09.507" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21311" PostId="10312" Score="1" Text="@Vorac - No need to be rude. There is nothing in your post about martial arts or self defense, just how much damage from indoor shooting. In addition, I said nothing about ear plugs. I just stated that there were extensive writeups on the damage that can occur, and as it's written, it's a general health type question." CreationDate="2020-12-21T00:39:58.527" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21312" PostId="10321" Score="0" Text="You may want to try splitting this up into more manageable paragraphs. It's a bit of a wall of text." CreationDate="2020-12-21T02:50:32.337" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21313" PostId="10316" Score="0" Text="@BatWannaBe: not every martial art believes in competitions; in my first school the skills built cooperatively over the grades so we could go really hard in sparring and just pull the techniques that would have hit, so the people sparring tended to know when they would have hit or been hit, and people got a sense of who could hit how hard from pad work and breaking; if someone didn't respect a pulled strike then the next one likely wouldn't get pulled.  I know it's not the modern sports approach, but it worked pretty well for us at the time, letting us go full speed and power with control." CreationDate="2020-12-21T04:19:13.593" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21314" PostId="10321" Score="0" Text="Paragraphs? Let's start with sentences. If you want others to read your ideas, then take the time to organize them." CreationDate="2020-12-21T14:40:24.963" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21315" PostId="10322" Score="0" Text="I think this is a good answer but not to the question asked." CreationDate="2020-12-22T15:35:03.543" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21316" PostId="10322" Score="0" Text="Did I read the question wrong?" CreationDate="2020-12-22T17:52:26.650" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21317" PostId="10312" Score="1" Text="@JohnP my apologies on being rude. Furthermore thanks to everyone about the comments (actually mini-answers). This is a general health question. It should be asked to such an audience." CreationDate="2020-12-22T17:59:18.043" UserId="485" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21318" PostId="10312" Score="1" Text="@Vorac - No worries. Unfortunately, general health questions are not that welcome on any site on the network. What you could do is rephrase it asking if there have been any studies showing the effects of gunfire on hearing without protection on the medical sciences stack. Something like &quot;I have heard that even a single shot can produce x,y,z effects, have there been any studies done on a, b and c&quot; kind of thing." CreationDate="2020-12-22T18:11:10.980" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21319" PostId="10229" Score="0" Text="@AmorphousBlob Maybe not so much in the developed world anymore, but machete attacks are still fairly common in some regions of the world, for instance.  (My point about a single stab being potentially lethal comes from an anecdote about a surgeon sewing up a stabbing victim with dozens of wounds.  The surgeon's observation: &quot;amateurs!&quot;" CreationDate="2020-12-22T23:05:04.817" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21320" PostId="10212" Score="0" Text="@AmorphousBlob roflmao :) :) :) Using &quot;disarming&quot; in the normal sense, as opposed to the Monty Python &quot;Merely a flesh wound&quot;." CreationDate="2020-12-22T23:06:08.720" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21321" PostId="10291" Score="0" Text="@BatWannaBe My understanding is that Ip's son was involved in the production..." CreationDate="2020-12-22T23:06:43.423" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21322" PostId="10299" Score="0" Text="@JujutsuAddict388 Asking from the standpoint of self-defense/combat as opposed to sparring or sport fighting." CreationDate="2020-12-22T23:07:57.073" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21323" PostId="10299" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann Effective for controlling an opponent's body, potentially submitting them, or simply breaking the fingers to diminish their capacity, and potentially end combat.  (I've been put into wicked finger locks by chin-na experts who don't telegraph the move, or even distract you before grabbing the digits.)" CreationDate="2020-12-22T23:09:28.557" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21324" PostId="10305" Score="0" Text="In this case, vids vetted by a Judo practitioner who has a deep understanding of what they're looking at.  (I'm very careful about what Chinese martial arts videos from youtube I share, b/c there's much more crap than high-quality content.)" CreationDate="2020-12-22T23:11:37.857" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21327" PostId="10322" Score="0" Text="&quot;One punch knockout&quot;, but I appreciate your explication of the concept in general." CreationDate="2020-12-22T23:19:50.290" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21328" PostId="8945" Score="0" Text="For me dance, like historical fencing, is about channeling intent.  In internal arts (tai chi, wudang) we also &quot;communicate&quot; with the partner by &quot;feeling their energy&quot; (here energy means the momentum in their body or blade.)  Empty hand is easier; developing this feeling via a blade much more difficult.  But not at all unlike dancing, in my experience—thus Judo &amp; pushhands &quot;players&quot;, and sword &quot;play&quot;." CreationDate="2020-12-22T23:23:41.390" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21329" PostId="10279" Score="0" Text="@Vorac one advantage to blades is you still have control even after penetrating the opponent's body, unlike bullets where you lose control the moment it leaves the barrel, and can bounce around inside the body, or exit cleanly without damaging any major organs.  (That said, I should qualify that, in a home defense situation, my actual optimal choice would be a short-barreled shotgun so I don't even have to worry about aiming—just pointing it in the general direction;)" CreationDate="2020-12-22T23:27:23.700" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21330" PostId="8945" Score="0" Text="@DukeZhou In ballroom dance, you learn to communicate with signals that you send to your partner. The signals really depend on previous knowledge of the signals. It's not natural. You are programming it. And you hope your partner has learned the same style as you in order to have the same signals. Otherwise it's like talking in two different languages. It's not like soft-style martial arts, where you're feeling your partner and guiding them. And it's not like martial arts where your intent is to win against them. In dance, you're cooperating with one another. Doesn't really translate to MA." CreationDate="2020-12-22T23:56:05.647" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21331" PostId="8945" Score="0" Text="Combat is advantageous in this sense—it is ultimately governed by the objective and tools.  So unlike ballroom, a martial artist has to read and adapt to any potential opponent from the moment combat is initiated. (Ideally, the martial artist will have had time to assess prior—you can learn a lot just by watching how someone moves.)  Think of all movement as a dance—in taiji I lead you whether you want me to or not.  Judo too." CreationDate="2020-12-23T00:06:15.067" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21332" PostId="10294" Score="1" Text="The character he portrayed had very wide and low stances so probably changquan. Jet li himself was also a changquan medallist. Wong fei hung founded the style hung fist and in the movie, he taught 13th aunt &quot;kumlar&quot; sau." CreationDate="2020-12-23T00:47:08.553" UserId="8980" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21333" PostId="9988" Score="0" Text="Can you elaborate on why elite practitioners must be able to release instantly?  (I think I know what you are referring to.)" CreationDate="2020-12-23T01:38:55.157" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21334" PostId="7594" Score="0" Text="Great point about grappling.  As a practitioner of wudang and tai chi sword, 2/3 of my training is empty hand, striking and grappling.  In the HEMA show &quot;Knight Fight&quot; which featured armored melee, putting an opponent on the ground with throws was a regular technique, as was punching." CreationDate="2020-12-23T02:05:36.130" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21336" PostId="7594" Score="0" Text="I wonder too if the reach factor is why the [naginata](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naginata) was the signature weapon of the [onna-bugeisha](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onna-bugeisha) (women knight errants.)" CreationDate="2020-12-23T02:08:12.207" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21339" PostId="10294" Score="0" Text="@KristinaLex I'd say longfist 100%.  He does all of the iconic longboxing movements, and it's arguably what he most excelled at.  And Jet Li wiki confirms what styles he did learn.  (Please do post a formal answer so I can accept! :) :) :)" CreationDate="2020-12-23T02:18:03.590" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21340" PostId="9988" Score="0" Text="@DukeZhou I've tried to clarify, but elite practitioners may not release instantly. Recreational practitioners will." CreationDate="2020-12-23T03:50:35.393" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21341" PostId="10322" Score="0" Text="The majority of this answer would be better for a question of &quot;How can I knockout someone?&quot; or something similar." CreationDate="2020-12-23T04:07:23.160" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21342" PostId="9988" Score="0" Text="My bad, I meant to ask is instant release on signal because of safety in regard to chokeholds, breaks and so forth?" CreationDate="2020-12-23T05:26:26.093" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21343" PostId="10322" Score="0" Text="Yeah, was a bit of a difficult call. I could have just said 'target is more important' but without some explanation of the mechanisms the answer would seem incomplete" CreationDate="2020-12-23T10:20:53.280" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21344" PostId="9988" Score="0" Text="@DukeZhou Yes, it's a catch-all safety issue." CreationDate="2020-12-23T14:09:12.003" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21346" PostId="10325" Score="0" Text="Yay for proper usage of &quot;effect&quot;!" CreationDate="2020-12-23T15:16:32.807" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21347" PostId="10333" Score="0" Text="Heh, I was actually considering asking about this last night, I think because I was rereading the question about chops to the neck." CreationDate="2020-12-23T15:33:07.717" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21348" PostId="10333" Score="0" Text="The issue with knifehand is you have to either condition the hand *a lot* or you have to strike with the wrist instead." CreationDate="2020-12-23T16:12:27.277" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21349" PostId="10336" Score="1" Text="While guns and gun safety usually relate to martial arts, this question does not seem to ask about application in martial arts. For this reason, I believe it is off-topic" CreationDate="2020-12-23T23:04:24.333" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21350" PostId="9845" Score="0" Text="That lengthwise stripe denotes other titles. Not the dan." CreationDate="2020-12-24T02:38:51.230" UserId="8980" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21352" PostId="10334" Score="0" Text="If you can hit a knee while the weight is on it you can do an injury that will require surgery for your opponent to be able to walk again.  It's a personal thing, but I would much rather avoid using these even in most self defence situations.  I guess it depends on situation though." CreationDate="2020-12-24T12:04:23.030" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21355" PostId="10341" Score="0" Text="I've found a few other references, but this is the closest I've seen to something official." CreationDate="2020-12-24T14:24:01.143" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21357" PostId="10342" Score="0" Text="How do you know any of what you say in the first paragraph? In ten years of karate I was told the same stories, but I still haven't met anyone crippled by a stomp to the knee." CreationDate="2020-12-27T06:27:26.143" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21358" PostId="10342" Score="0" Text="That is a perfectly healthy level of scepticism @dave_liepmann. I have not mey anyone who was crippled by a kick to the knee either. I have met people though who have been crippled by injuring their knees for example by falling off their bikes or lifting a heavy object incorrectly. Also if you look at a anatomical diagram of the knee it it can be seen that it is structurally week to sideways force." CreationDate="2020-12-27T10:17:34.737" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21359" PostId="10346" Score="0" Text="Yeah. I can't disagree with this. Kicks to the back of the knee are somewhat better I guess because you actually have a good way to practice them." CreationDate="2020-12-27T10:24:49.753" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21360" PostId="10347" Score="4" Text="[Related question about tae kwan do bouncing](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/q/1219/5961)" CreationDate="2020-12-27T14:24:30.890" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21361" PostId="10347" Score="0" Text="Absent additional information regarding Kumite, I'm pretty sure this is the same situation, where the rules incentivize this kind of movement." CreationDate="2020-12-27T16:13:47.807" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21362" PostId="10347" Score="0" Text="I'm not sure about that, remember that sweeping the leg and then punching the fallen opponent is an ippon." CreationDate="2020-12-27T17:55:05.937" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21363" PostId="10349" Score="0" Text="Getting hit repeatedly in the head is unsafe, regardless of any throwing activity. If someone is hitting you in the head in judo, then stop and fix that problem." CreationDate="2020-12-29T10:36:00.070" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21365" PostId="9154" Score="1" Text="Maybe more specifically, one should say that the commonality of guruma-techniques is a rotation of (all of) uke's body around a body-part of tori which blocks a forward movement/step of uke and thus introduces the guided rolling movement. The naming of individual guruma techniques is inconsistent insofar it mostly involves the fulcrum point in terms of tori's body, while hiza-guruma refers to uke's body, o-guruma is comparative to ashi-guruma if anything (o-ashi-guruma, basically)m while yoko-guruma refers to tori's position." CreationDate="2020-12-29T17:36:06.963" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21366" PostId="10349" Score="0" Text="They were whacking me around the back of the neck, in a headlock, popping my neck &amp; making me nauseous, like seasick. I never said anything, because I was afraid they wouldn't take me seriously. That is why I don't do squad training for judo anymore, I felt they didn't supervise the training enough &amp; deal with these types of judokas. I did try to complain to my coach at my normal training &amp; someone said it's judo &amp; toughen up, so I felt I had to tough it out. So I just refuse to train with anyone who whacks around the head, they can train by themselves. I did tell a black belt during randori t" CreationDate="2020-12-30T04:41:10.807" UserId="11269" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21367" PostId="10348" Score="1" Text="Additionally, quads and other muscles are stretched as they cushion your landing, and that primes them to engage more muscle fibres in a following contraction than you'd be able to command from a static position.  Same idea as plyometric exercises.  That said, my own experience has been that if your defence is good enough, you can take on a shorter stance, and stay closer or inside the edge of the opponent's range - daring them to attack while ready to counter, and not needing to drag your back leg forward before using a front leg sweep or kick to the knee.  Bouncing's an all-or-nothing game." CreationDate="2021-01-02T08:10:19.480" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21368" PostId="10353" Score="0" Text="Please try to meet at least minimal editorial standards in your posts (spelling, grammar, sentence structure, punctuation, ...). And how are legal submissions not using pain for compliance? Additionally, since full-contact sports are done at full force, injuries happen way more often than in most self-proclaimed 'self-defence martial arts'. In short: answers on StackExchange should be more elaborate, thoughtful, and based on actual expertise than this post." CreationDate="2021-01-02T13:43:35.333" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21370" PostId="10357" Score="0" Text="Why is this blurred?" CreationDate="2021-01-02T22:58:54.017" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21371" PostId="10357" Score="0" Text="@RoundHouse I didn't get permission from people in the video!" CreationDate="2021-01-02T23:45:17.590" UserId="9518" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21372" PostId="10359" Score="0" Text="Hi Steve, is this *&quot;As for dealing with aggression, and someone who is always coming at you and pressing forward into you, **you must not step backwards**, because that makes it much easier for him to target you.&quot;* only in reference to TKD? Or are you saying this in general for other striking arts too? If the latter, then I disagree. Stepping back can open up many key strikes for a charging, aggressive opponent. One can take a step back and use the back leg for power tips and front kicks (to the core, face, head). One can take a step back and bounce the back leg for a knee to the face/head -" CreationDate="2021-01-03T03:04:34.770" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21373" PostId="10359" Score="0" Text="(usually aggressive fighters have a more low stance which makes them more vulnerable to knees). Stepping back also invites the opponent for charging in, which can be exploited with side steps, diagonal steps, shifts, and pivots **after** stepping back (I know you mentioned those things but they can also be done more effectively after stepping back and luring the opponent). One extremely useful move by Vasyl Lomachenko is when he steps back inviting the opponent to come forward - as the opponent charges in - Loma takes a slight angle and **leaps forward** by bouncing off the back leg -" CreationDate="2021-01-03T03:05:06.243" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21374" PostId="10359" Score="0" Text="this puts Loma directly on the outer side of his charging opponent (and sometimes even behind the opponent) - ready to counter with hooks while the opponent has to stop his momentum and turn towards Loma. This leap forward is very hard to predict coming from someone who is stepping back - thereby making it incredibly useful. Stepping back in a straight line can also allow the fighter to throw the overhand right with a lot of power from planting or digging their back leg, which is quite difficult to land while pivoting or side-stepping." CreationDate="2021-01-03T03:05:10.687" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21375" PostId="10359" Score="0" Text="As always, a great answer from you; I just don't think the sweeping statement *&quot;you must not step backwards&quot;* is right." CreationDate="2021-01-03T03:10:52.070" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21376" PostId="10359" Score="1" Text="@RoundHouse Well you are right that there are tactics you can employ with stepping back. For example, if you have the ability to sprawl. The problem with stepping back in response to a forward moving opponent is that you're making it real easy for him to know where you will be. In the video that was posted, that's basically what happened. The aggressive one just follows the other. The target is locked. That stepping back didn't work. What to do instead? What I'm describing is a way of preventing the target lock completely. What you're describing is more like a decoy, where you know that he..." CreationDate="2021-01-03T03:13:56.410" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21377" PostId="10359" Score="1" Text="... can predict where you'll be and will therefore do as you anticipate. Then you can prepare some kind of counter, since you know he's going to take the bait and do what you expect. Plenty of options there. But first let's work on side-stepping and moving in unpredictable ways. That should frustrate a forward moving opponent. The same with half-beat timing. Then add decoying as I suggested. Plenty of options. But just back-peddling as a panic response is unintelligent. That's what I saw on the video, and that must not happen." CreationDate="2021-01-03T03:16:23.447" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21378" PostId="10359" Score="0" Text="@RoundHouse Good observations, by the way!" CreationDate="2021-01-03T03:18:23.163" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21379" PostId="8945" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand: note there are some dances outside of ballroom that are connection-based and are as you describe soft-style martial arts, where you feel your partner and inform their movements rather than signaling them. This can result in movements that one or neither partner had done before. You're quite right about the need to match styles closely, though an experienced enough dancer can more or less dance a style they haven't before. Even so, as you point out, the overarching cooperative nature of dance means that though there's some skill overlap, the different contexts make it harder to …" CreationDate="2021-01-03T22:07:38.637" UserId="11275" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21380" PostId="8945" Score="0" Text="… translate those skills: the difference in stances, the different connection with your partner/opponent. It's possible that something could be learned by using the differences, though I can't think how; sometimes knowing what something is not helps clarify." CreationDate="2021-01-03T22:14:26.027" UserId="11275" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21381" PostId="2204" Score="0" Text="When up against a [superior force](https://i.imgur.com/s3bXiYx.jpg), you must use [guile](https://i.imgur.com/SIZ1y5e.jpg)." CreationDate="2021-01-04T03:16:23.573" UserId="11275" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21382" PostId="10210" Score="0" Text="@DukeZhou I've not heard this particular critique before- I want to investigate it. It is true that threads and quickly narrowing metal can act as weak points, as fracture mechanics is something I know more than the average bear. As far as the &quot;stage&quot; vs &quot;battle-ready&quot; discussion goes, I think this is secondary to the other safety concerns." CreationDate="2021-01-04T15:54:55.890" UserId="6374" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21383" PostId="10359" Score="0" Text="I fought with my opponent and updated my post with the result =)" CreationDate="2021-01-06T19:57:29.217" UserId="9518" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21384" PostId="10359" Score="1" Text="@user3405291 Awesome! Glad to hear you made progress in such a short time. Imagine what you can accomplish over the next year or two? I saw your comments. All of the things you weren't successful doing take time to learn. I wouldn't expect success right away. Play with the concepts with a willing partner first, then apply it to sparring. Use your kicks to push him back when he gets too close. He'll want to push them aside and drive in again. Use that knowledge to decoy. If you know what he's going to do, you have an advantage. He'll leave himself open for a spinning hook kick to his head." CreationDate="2021-01-06T20:20:04.837" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21386" PostId="9276" Score="0" Text="This extending hand technique was overly used a lot throughout the Valentina vs Amanda fight #2 by Amanda Nunes, and as far as I know, she was not deducted any points, even after a warning early in the fight. This adds another “ fishy” element to this fight. Why has this been overlooked. Amanda was more in a defense mode way too much in the fight, and allowed to use a defensive extra ( at least semi - cheating) move? I do not agree that on that occasion Amanda won. Compare this to Valentina’s cautious but still very energetic win against Liz Carmouche. It’s understandable to adjust to your opp" CreationDate="2021-01-12T05:51:40.677" UserId="11292" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21387" PostId="9276" Score="0" Text="@mattm: Just letting you know, not all of the answer was converted to the comment." CreationDate="2021-01-12T15:24:38.617" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21388" PostId="9276" Score="1" Text="@MacacoBranco - Yes, the comment field has a character limit. As it's basically a well disguised rant about Nunes winning, I think we are ok with it. It technically doesn't even work as a comment, but..." CreationDate="2021-01-12T16:10:31.680" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21390" PostId="9276" Score="1" Text="The beginning is useful as a pointer to an example. I don't think the entire post adds much." CreationDate="2021-01-12T21:45:36.953" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21391" PostId="9278" Score="0" Text="Look at Judo, e. g. in Doha right now.&#xA;&#xA;In Boxing you can't be pulled and thrown as in in UFC or Judo.&#xA;Here you use it for distance checking and for testing of resistance and answering moves of your opponent. If there is a week point open, go for it.&#xA;Do it constantly, so you aren't messaging." CreationDate="2021-01-13T08:37:00.703" UserId="10685" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21395" PostId="10366" Score="1" Text="Good answer.  I wouldn't say there is much wrong with moving back from the first couple of strikes though.  You just have to be aware of the space you are in." CreationDate="2021-01-15T19:24:09.317" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21397" PostId="10366" Score="0" Text="Ah you are talking about moving back in line with the attack. Yes definitely a bad move then." CreationDate="2021-01-15T20:53:33.813" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21398" PostId="10366" Score="0" Text="Hmm... one benefit to moving back is that, even if you don't move back far enough, you've removed some of the power of the attack (admittedly, that's for straight attacks). But yeah, a bad idea to keep doing it and, as you note, it can make it harder for you to hit back." CreationDate="2021-01-17T04:51:19.253" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21399" PostId="618" Score="0" Text="Do-Jang, not Dojo. I'm with the relatively small AKTA (American Korean TKD Assoc.) and know this form, but I'm not familiar with what constitutes a &quot;movement&quot; in various people's minds. Is this when you're still facing &amp; moving forward, and when you step with your left your left then right hands perform a move, then left punch? Then step with the right foot and repeat the moves with the opposite hands?" CreationDate="2021-01-19T17:54:01.533" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21401" PostId="10370" Score="0" Text="How to use a numb-chuck: Immediately hand it to your opponent and watch them smack themselves silly. :)" CreationDate="2021-01-20T00:37:02.403" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21402" PostId="10376" Score="1" Text="Can you explain what you mean by &quot;OVE&quot;?" CreationDate="2021-01-21T04:50:36.547" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21403" PostId="10374" Score="1" Text="*&quot;He's physically incapable of performing most of the techniques he teaches&quot;* - you might be surprised what people are capable of when they really have to do it - I wouldn't bet against the old guy :)" CreationDate="2021-01-21T05:08:10.683" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21404" PostId="10374" Score="2" Text="@slugster - You're right, and no one actually believes him to be entirely incapable. But he really does have leg mobility issues, bad enough that he can't properly chamber any type of kick. Still punches like a truck, though, gotta hand it to him." CreationDate="2021-01-21T05:16:49.123" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21405" PostId="10373" Score="0" Text="Related question: https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/9920/is-it-ok-to-start-taekwondo-at-the-age-of-14 . The main problem for the oldies is TIME. And work - it's usually preventing you from training ten times a week.." CreationDate="2021-01-21T09:28:31.357" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21406" PostId="10375" Score="1" Text="As anecdotal evidence I would like to add that Yvonne Bönisch, gold medalist in Judo, started with Judo at the age of 13, with no prior martial arts training whatsoever. She was a top gymnast with a highly trained body and the mindset of a winner before that, though." CreationDate="2021-01-21T16:59:08.640" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21408" PostId="10376" Score="0" Text="As a prophetic truth insight, Ove is the old linguistic use of the word most people now a days attribute to have a &quot;L&quot; inclusive spelling, the added &quot;L&quot; at the front of the word comes from the French term of &quot;Le&quot; denoting a thing; still OVE as Creator and Maker does not personally care to be made out to be a thing... I don't mean to just jump into usage of the old or traditional usage of the word without this being made clear logically" CreationDate="2021-01-22T00:32:00.427" UserId="11309" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21409" PostId="10381" Score="2" Text="I honestly don't think this has been studied. At least I've never seen the data. Light contact to the head, but repeated frequently and over a long period of time may actually contribute to CTE. We don't know if it does or not. And if it does, we don't know how bad it is. All I'll say is light is better than heavy. Go easy on the contact, especially in training (which is where you spend most of your time getting hit)." CreationDate="2021-01-22T04:34:04.503" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21410" PostId="10381" Score="0" Text="You can always spar without any contact to the head, but full force contact to the body! That will make up for it ..." CreationDate="2021-01-22T10:42:49.323" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21411" PostId="9758" Score="0" Text="The standard way to tie one's belt in Karate and Judo is a traditional Japanese knot known as [&quot;Chiyo-Musubi&quot;](https://karakuri.gr.jp/en/products/rf-30/) (千代結び &quot;eternal knot&quot;)." CreationDate="2021-01-22T11:45:36.537" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21412" PostId="10382" Score="0" Text="That was more of a comment on the effectiveness of light contact training. It doesn't really address the main concern. Besides that, not everyone agrees that hard contact to the head is required in training in order to become competitive. Certainly, you can learn a lot from hard contact. But does it need to be every training session? Can it be once every few months? At what point are there diminishing returns on it? Most expert trainers these days are saying it's bs to go hard during training, period. And there is definitely a growing awareness of CTE and training with frequent hard contact." CreationDate="2021-01-22T15:44:36.460" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21413" PostId="10384" Score="0" Text="Very helpful thank you" CreationDate="2021-01-23T05:03:56.593" UserId="6502" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21414" PostId="10382" Score="0" Text="I see. Just thought, that question relates to it - head injures and hard contact are connected. But if it so inappropriate - mybe I should remove it? How do you think, Steve?" CreationDate="2021-01-25T07:27:26.977" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21415" PostId="4525" Score="0" Text="I don't know 'Volatren Gel'.&#xA;I think Penn means 'Voltaren Gel'. I used a lot myself.&#xA;I didn't edit his post, maybe there is this gel." CreationDate="2021-01-25T09:59:15.903" UserId="10685" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21416" PostId="10382" Score="0" Text="No reason to delete it if you think it adds to the discussion." CreationDate="2021-01-26T04:04:52.807" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21417" PostId="10388" Score="0" Text="What do you mean by &quot;better foot technique for kicking&quot;?" CreationDate="2021-01-26T11:52:21.313" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21418" PostId="10388" Score="0" Text="Basically to have a better control of your feet when kicking. There are rules, how exactly your foot has to be positioned when kicking. For example, a low kick is easier to perform than a high kick. And the goal should be to be able to perform the high kick equally to the low kick, regarding the &quot;technique&quot;. I hope you know what I mean." CreationDate="2021-01-26T11:59:00.497" UserDisplayName="user11319" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21419" PostId="10388" Score="0" Text="So you basically ask whether regular stretching can improve technique (foot position etc.) since you do not have to compensate for your lack of flexibility - which is obviously the case - and whether the amount of stretching could be structurally damaging - which pretty much depends on your stretching exercise and how far into the pain zone you go. In other words: Without spelling out your exact problems and how you stretch this is not clear enough to be answered. And the core question (the second one) would be better asked at Fitness.SE IMHO." CreationDate="2021-01-26T13:28:56.677" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21420" PostId="10370" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand I will never forget the first time I was allowed to train with a ~5m whip. Just 2 weeks later the bloody wounds on my back had healed :)" CreationDate="2021-01-27T10:45:41.007" UserId="485" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21421" PostId="8382" Score="0" Text="@MarkC.Wallace That it's certified. That it's monitored somehow. That it abides to some standards." CreationDate="2021-01-27T12:23:34.027" UserId="9359" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21422" PostId="8382" Score="0" Text="So you want Kempo practitioners to license aikido? or perhaps Yoshinkai practitioners to license Aikikai?  And don't get me started on asking koryu schools to accept that anyone else is valid.  Martial arts are valid if they fulfill the student's requirements.  Some students want self defense, others want aerobics, others want spirituality.  All are valid within their own scope, but none of them should evaluate others." CreationDate="2021-01-27T12:47:43.780" UserId="457" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21423" PostId="10388" Score="0" Text="Sure, maybe some, better than nothing." CreationDate="2021-01-27T20:41:43.697" UserId="1978" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21424" PostId="10372" Score="0" Text="https://dendearts.com/what-makes-a-good-martial-arts-teacher/" CreationDate="2021-02-01T15:17:48.880" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21425" PostId="10394" Score="0" Text="Nailed it! My understanding of the kick matches your additional description perfectly. Is &quot;bit&quot; in this case pronounced like &quot;beet&quot; perhaps? That seems like a likely misinterpretation I could have made." CreationDate="2021-02-02T17:44:25.763" UserId="3105" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21426" PostId="10394" Score="0" Text="@grovberg You can actually hear it in Google Translate. Bit refers to &quot;Twisting&quot;, which can be heard here. And yes, sounds like &quot;beet&quot; or &quot;pee&quot;:&#xA;https://translate.google.com/?sl=ko&amp;tl=en&amp;text=%EB%B9%84%ED%8B%80%EC%96%B4&amp;op=translate&amp;hl=en" CreationDate="2021-02-02T17:49:51.883" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21427" PostId="10379" Score="0" Text="I think this has more to do with blade geometry - a Katana has a rather tick spine, therefore is stiff. My razor blade is so thin that i can flex it with my thumb nail, but it's, well, razor sharp." CreationDate="2021-02-08T21:04:14.043" UserId="5572" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21428" PostId="10379" Score="1" Text="@KlausKuplen Certainly edge geometry is important (I tend to not cut my self on smooth, round objects)! Edge geometry and stiffness (which derives from material and blade cross section) are all major factors to cutting. I'll update this answer with more reasoning." CreationDate="2021-02-09T14:21:16.360" UserId="6374" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21429" PostId="8249" Score="0" Text="if you have research backing this up you should cite it. otherwise this is just speculation" CreationDate="2021-02-13T21:47:13.827" UserId="7756" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21430" PostId="8249" Score="0" Text="@jobHunter69: you know, some of us actually studied physics.  Clearly from Alex G's comment, he also knows enough physics to understand my answer.  If you want something different, go find whatever you like and post your own answer." CreationDate="2021-02-13T22:18:37.800" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21431" PostId="8249" Score="0" Text="@TonyD You think you understand physics just because you know F=ma? your answer is wrong and you're basically just spreading lies online that endangers people" CreationDate="2021-02-13T22:21:56.390" UserId="7756" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21432" PostId="8768" Score="0" Text="Mayweather can't even read. He's a great example of why boxing is bad for the brain." CreationDate="2021-02-14T05:01:56.087" UserId="7756" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21433" PostId="8249" Score="0" Text="@JobHunter69: no - I don't think that.  I think I know enough physics to have answered the question because I studied physics at Uni and know how to apply F=ma to the amount of padding involved here.  If you want to justify a different answer, knock yourself our and prove yourself.  You haven't disproved anything here yourself." CreationDate="2021-02-14T05:11:57.713" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21434" PostId="8249" Score="0" Text="So you decide to apply F=ma to the padding but entirely ignore the added weight of boxing gloves? That's completely illogical" CreationDate="2021-02-14T05:40:25.317" UserId="7756" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21435" PostId="10397" Score="0" Text="Because ninja zombies are a serious street fight problem and people proficient with them (takes years of serious training) and running around attacking people pop up everywhere? What does motivate this question? Why do **you** think this is a problem? What are **your** thoughts and research efforts so far?" CreationDate="2021-02-14T09:48:30.610" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21436" PostId="8249" Score="0" Text="@JobHunter69: I didn't ignore that - I specifically address it in my answer: &quot;the weight of the glove is insignificant compared to the weight of your body moving behind your punch&quot;." CreationDate="2021-02-14T18:29:09.067" UserId="1618" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21437" PostId="10399" Score="0" Text="Nunchaku used to be a bit of a gang thing (how much it actually was versus scaremongering, or an excuse to keep kids from hurting themselves...), mainly for intimidation factor, but also because they are easily concealed for their length of striking. I like your answer better than mine." CreationDate="2021-02-16T15:53:36.590" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21438" PostId="10397" Score="0" Text="I don't think that theoretical-scenario questions like this are out of bounds, and they certainly don't merit sharp-edged sarcasm like that." CreationDate="2021-02-17T18:19:45.567" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21439" PostId="9548" Score="0" Text="Another name for &quot;wall block&quot; seems to be [helmet guard](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaGDRvmLXEM&amp;t=2m18s)" CreationDate="2021-02-18T03:05:10.247" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21440" PostId="9548" Score="0" Text="@user2153235 Yes. Now where is my upvote? ;) Oh lol you are the OP." CreationDate="2021-02-18T03:51:36.357" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21441" PostId="9548" Score="0" Text="Oops, I decremented your upvote by clicking the up-arrow.  I then undid that by clicking again." CreationDate="2021-02-18T16:57:05.763" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21446" PostId="10376" Score="0" Text="As a side note, that's not where &quot;love&quot; comes from, at least in English. That sounds like a confusion with why we use &quot;love&quot; in tennis scoring, which *is* a corruption of &quot;&quot;l'œuf&quot;, or &quot;the egg&quot;, representative of the zero." CreationDate="2021-02-21T14:46:01.500" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21447" PostId="10404" Score="2" Text="A better answer would explain why the Olympic scoring system is horrendous." CreationDate="2021-02-23T11:56:43.827" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21448" PostId="10404" Score="0" Text="Welcome to MartialArts.Stackexchange! Your answer contains your view of Olympic vs Traditional TKD as an instrument of practical use. The question was a bit another - OP asks about concrete differences. Please, improve your answer to make it more close to the question." CreationDate="2021-02-24T09:39:48.870" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21449" PostId="3010" Score="0" Text="my opinion has since changed, but only marginally; I've dropped weight and competed in 3 divisions now, since when I started I was overweight, so I competed at the weight class above, at my natural weight class and at the weight below and what I've found is that if you pick up enough muscle so that you're still in your natural weight class, but you don't neglect cardio - you'll definitely experience an advantage over your opponents in competition, although, you have to realize that some of them do the same, in those cases it's a question of grit or who's more &quot;alpha&quot;" CreationDate="2021-02-25T08:31:50.303" UserId="1685" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21453" PostId="10407" Score="0" Text="Idk, it's supposed to affect my balance. This research is not about high kicks, but it explores the impact of low arches on the thing called &quot;dynamic balance&quot; (it's not a good impact): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5895915/" CreationDate="2021-02-26T16:07:20.913" UserId="10664" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21454" PostId="10407" Score="0" Text="@SergeyZolotarev What happens due to flat feet is, if anything, an instability of the ankle *towards the inside* under weight/stress because of the lack of supportive muscle/tendon structures that make up the arc of the foot. That is what the study says as well. Thus, if your problem has to do with the outer edge, it is a clear sign that you do not have enough weight on the foot." CreationDate="2021-02-26T16:40:55.770" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21455" PostId="7690" Score="0" Text="An update for @Raf after all these years: I am now taking Fu Jow Pai lessons and stating to put these into practice.  Thank you again!" CreationDate="2021-02-26T18:37:19.343" UserId="3145" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21456" PostId="10407" Score="0" Text="@SergeyZolotarev: I have included my reasons for the assumption that it is about your technique and not your condition and a paragraph on how to tackle your condition as well. Hope that helps." CreationDate="2021-03-01T09:46:36.073" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21457" PostId="10407" Score="0" Text="There's certainly something wrong with my feet. 1) I was diagnosed with flat feet a long ago (it is my firm belief that I still have it). 2) When I squat, it's extremely difficult for me not to fall backward unless I lift my heels. 3) I can't do kiba dachi (only shiko dachi). I simply can't set my feet parallelly in that stance. As I start to bend my knees, the ends of my feet force their way outward, no matter how much I try to keep them pointed in front of me." CreationDate="2021-03-01T13:42:49.017" UserId="10664" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21458" PostId="10407" Score="0" Text="@SergeyZolotarev - You can blame your feet all you want. I'm between a 1 and a 2 on the above scale and I get along just fine. I'm not saying that there might not be a physical reason rather than a form, but as Philip says, I doubt it's your feet." CreationDate="2021-03-01T13:52:46.020" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21459" PostId="10407" Score="0" Text="@SergeyZolotarev: Firstly, that is interesting information, but does not invalidate anything I have written above. Secondly, this sounds a lot like your ankle mobility was impaired, maybe as compensation for flat feet and/or hypermobility leading to partial calcification in the joint - at least that's what I experienced. I have been there, too. That's not necessarily permanent. But you have to train the muscles and mobility there and in the hip and you have to see a good orthopedist and physiotherapist/ostheopath for control and support." CreationDate="2021-03-01T13:55:17.307" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21461" PostId="10411" Score="1" Text="It's not clear to me what you are asking. Density is defined as mass/volume, where mass is often called weight. This is a property of the foam." CreationDate="2021-03-04T11:44:05.090" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21462" PostId="10411" Score="0" Text="if someone posts the correct answer, you can accept it by clicking on the checkmark by the voting buttons, as per the [tour]." CreationDate="2021-03-04T16:00:31.560" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21463" PostId="10412" Score="0" Text="I'll add the caveat that the same text shows up at https://www.cannonsuk.com/pages/what-is-hardness-and-density so this might be more marketing than science, requoted for the appearance of being authoritative." CreationDate="2021-03-04T16:15:29.503" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21466" PostId="1960" Score="0" Text="The same is for most martial arts.&#xA;Also in judo, karate, capoera, etc you should be strong, agile, explosive etc.&#xA;&#xA;In tai chi you may be not so strong." CreationDate="2021-03-12T11:37:52.647" UserId="10685" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21467" PostId="580" Score="0" Text="How can a martial art &quot;have a wide range of techniques that can be applied against a kick&quot; if it &quot;does not expressively have attacking kicks&quot;? Do they hire other martial artists to kick them at training?" CreationDate="2021-03-13T06:13:29.227" UserId="485" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21468" PostId="10414" Score="1" Text="This does not answer the question." CreationDate="2021-03-18T20:03:16.810" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21471" PostId="10421" Score="2" Text="Well, it would certainly feel pretty interesting to fall on them. I suspect one of the reasons might be that non-Newtonian fluids only act in the desirable way you would want a mat to act if they are hit with low-impact. High impact causes them to compress and become solid and stiff, so it would be like falling on a rock. This is good for bike helmets where the goal is to REDUCE the amount of injury done to you, but mats should not be giving you an injury at all. Just a guess, though." CreationDate="2021-03-24T14:15:38.513" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21472" PostId="10421" Score="3" Text="Back in the early stone age when I practiced Judo, the mats were there to dampen the impact from the fall. You seem to be advocating the opposite, to want a _harder_ than normal impact when falling. Did I misinterpret the point of the judo mats?" CreationDate="2021-03-24T22:57:25.130" UserId="11454" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21473" PostId="10422" Score="4" Text="You've described only shear-thickening non-newtonian fluids in your answer." CreationDate="2021-03-24T23:21:58.537" UserId="11455" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21474" PostId="10421" Score="2" Text="@LemmyX There are also non-Newtonian fluids that behave the opposite way: a high impact causes them to become much less viscous (&quot;thinner&quot; or &quot;runnier&quot;) than they are at rest." CreationDate="2021-03-24T23:51:46.043" UserId="11456" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21476" PostId="10421" Score="0" Text="@DmitryGrigoryev How is that opposite? Both shear thickening and shear thinning are non-Newtonian regimes. Newtonian means **linear shear stress dependence on the strain**. Both concave and convex non-linear are non-Newtonian. And then there is thixotropic and stuff.. None is the opposite of non-Newtonian." CreationDate="2021-03-25T12:03:08.277" UserId="11464" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21477" PostId="10423" Score="4" Text="There would also be the question at which force you would want to start softening. Sure, a fall has a lot of energy, but if properly executed, it's spread out over a large area, so locally the stress is not that high. After all, that is the main idea of the exercise. On the other hand, during some judo throws, there is a moment where the weight of two people mostly rests on a really small area, possibly even just the part of one foot resulting in a relatively large stress. And this would be precisely the worst moment for a mat to suddenly get all soft and wobbly..." CreationDate="2021-03-25T12:27:27.013" UserId="11465" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21478" PostId="8973" Score="0" Text="@TheElectrocuter Well yeah, it's definitely going to vary per person. That said, I can definitely go on longer than I could before. I'm sure you've heard of the body hardening method used by Shaolin Monks. Hit a part of the body often enough and it starts to become thicker and more resilient. Aside from killing some of the nerves that is. It's definitely got nothing to do with being a wimp or being whiny. As long as you keep at it, despite the pain, no one's going to call you whiny. Persistence is key in martial arts." CreationDate="2021-03-25T21:17:43.793" UserId="1395" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21479" PostId="10423" Score="0" Text="@mlk Yeah, I think a key aspect here too is that if you're trained in falling as part of martial arts, you probably didn't practice that skill on a non-Newtonian surface. I could definitely see people actually getting hurt *worse* on these mats when they try to apply skills meant for ordinary mats." CreationDate="2021-03-26T04:46:16.423" UserId="11467" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21480" PostId="10425" Score="1" Text="Welcome to MartialArts Stackexchange! You've mentioned studies - can you support your answer with some links to it? It would be much better then. PS: -1 not mine" CreationDate="2021-03-29T14:10:54.200" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21481" PostId="10428" Score="0" Text="Yup, that was exactly it!" CreationDate="2021-03-30T20:07:31.100" UserId="11475" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21482" PostId="10427" Score="0" Text="_Wushu_, that was actually what it was called even, I couldn't remember. Thanks." CreationDate="2021-03-30T20:08:10.633" UserId="11475" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21483" PostId="10428" Score="0" Text="Awesome! Glad I could help!" CreationDate="2021-03-30T20:18:55.783" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21484" PostId="10082" Score="0" Text="What biceps do is contract to bring the forearm closer to the upper arm. When the forearms are almost vertical anyway, when protecting the head, not much weight is being expended to keep it there; it'd be the shoulders keeping the whole arm slightly raised. I could see biceps' fast-twitch muscles being useful to pull back fast after a jab or cross." CreationDate="2021-03-31T16:58:48.703" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21485" PostId="10423" Score="0" Text="Main problem here is that the optimal points would be dependent on weight, so you'd basically need weight-class optimised mats and/or training rooms. Great thing to have, but indeed rather impractical. I've seen tire-wood-mat installations (bottom to top, obviously) which where heavenly to train on. You didn't learn to fall properly cause it was too forgiving, though." CreationDate="2021-04-01T10:28:43.543" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21487" PostId="9457" Score="0" Text="The question is not about the efficiency of sine wave for fighting. It is about the efficiency of sine wave for generating power. There could be many reasons not to use sine wave in fights that are not related to power generation." CreationDate="2021-04-01T14:20:26.530" UserId="4463" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21498" PostId="9400" Score="0" Text="To add: Knee-on-belly" CreationDate="2021-04-02T16:21:15.950" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21511" PostId="10322" Score="0" Text="Did you miss the word &quot;punch&quot; in the question?" CreationDate="2021-04-03T01:02:02.120" UserDisplayName="user11487" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21515" PostId="10322" Score="0" Text="@bobcat No, It just doesn't make much difference.  Apart from 4 all of these are achievable through a punch." CreationDate="2021-04-03T12:02:42.200" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21516" PostId="10436" Score="1" Text="https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/why-no-karate-kiai-in-mma.2231409/" CreationDate="2021-04-04T21:40:26.910" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21517" PostId="10436" Score="1" Text="I suspect an additional factor is that the standard yell you hear in class that people recognize is also more about synchronizing a group movement." CreationDate="2021-04-05T12:07:44.220" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21518" PostId="10436" Score="1" Text="I definitely see fighters of all strikes kiai. It may not be as stylized as the synchronized yell found in karate/TKD/etc, but it's definitely common to brace and exhale when executing technique." CreationDate="2021-04-06T12:26:54.043" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21519" PostId="8294" Score="0" Text="Adding my two cents about conditioning - some boxing classes do have &quot;resillency&quot; training - when your partner is hitting your head, and you are standing still, &quot;eating&quot; it with your defence. With time, hitting becomes harder - it is somewhat like M-T leg conditioning with light strikes to the log." CreationDate="2021-04-08T12:05:38.840" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21520" PostId="9783" Score="0" Text="@anum Just revisited this comment thread after some time and wanted to add to another flawed premise of yours: In BJJ, you do not deliberately put yourself into a disadvantageous position. Yes, sports BJJ tends to pull guard...because it is actually *an advantageous position* in sports BJJ. In more relevant &quot;classical&quot; BJJ, you only go into these positions *for training purposes*, ie. to learn how to deal with them. You would not deliberately go into that position but in situations where the alternative is worse. Why choose guard when it could be you mounting your opponent? That's nonsense." CreationDate="2021-04-09T10:02:52.643" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21521" PostId="10333" Score="0" Text="@HuwEvans not if you intend to knock someone out with a knife hand to the neck. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcaOr1TBA1w" CreationDate="2021-04-13T00:21:26.687" UserId="9881" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21522" PostId="33" Score="0" Text="I believe if a school has a philosophy of “You should be choked out at least once you should probably find a different school." CreationDate="2021-04-13T18:33:31.320" UserId="11082" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21523" PostId="10440" Score="0" Text="Excellent work!" CreationDate="2021-04-15T00:27:22.130" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21525" PostId="5726" Score="0" Text="Thanks for help on gum guards dentures, been self conscious about asking in a gym, lost most of my top teeth in an accident, n only have four bottoms and partial plate, won't stop me scrapping anyways, csbt keep an angry dog down.. " CreationDate="2021-04-15T06:57:30.413" UserId="11527" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21528" PostId="10450" Score="0" Text="Very helpful insight thank you" CreationDate="2021-04-16T11:08:04.837" UserId="6502" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21529" PostId="10450" Score="1" Text="To add to this I have heard that muggers in the uk prefer to stab to the buttock.  Basically because that way they know they can intimidate the victim but hopefully not have to face a murder investigation." CreationDate="2021-04-16T13:05:10.880" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21530" PostId="10450" Score="1" Text="@FrontEnd Added a bit more constructive feedback as for storytelling purposes in a knife fight." CreationDate="2021-04-16T13:23:34.560" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21531" PostId="10439" Score="2" Text="As a shotokan karate practitioner, I'd like to say we've never used kiai in group katas to synchronise. If you have to use kiai to synchronise, you're not synchronised at all. I also think that the actual movements are better indicator of precision than kiai." CreationDate="2021-04-16T13:28:16.017" UserId="11532" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21532" PostId="10450" Score="0" Text="@HuwEvans Interesting. Hurts and bleeds like hell, makes pursuit impossible. Is hard to imagine in a *knife fight* though. You would have to be surprised, severely outmatched and/or outnumbered for this to happen." CreationDate="2021-04-16T13:40:37.927" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21533" PostId="10451" Score="1" Text="Offhand, I see several moves cribbed from Bruce Lee and various Kung Fu movies. I don't see much from Jim Kelly's usual fighting style, but that may be because animation tends to be much more stylized." CreationDate="2021-04-17T13:59:55.317" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21534" PostId="10450" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking exactly right.  They tend to work in groups and the one who is going to stab tried to get behind.  (according to the policeman I was training with)" CreationDate="2021-04-17T14:42:56.937" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21535" PostId="10451" Score="0" Text="@MacacoBranco Thanks for the response. Would you (if there were to be a classification) classify it as JKD?" CreationDate="2021-04-17T15:27:18.940" UserId="11534" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21536" PostId="10452" Score="1" Text="Are you seriously asking what options you do have against an obviously more skilled fighter without questioning or willing to improve your own skillset? Grappling or combinations are working great...if you trained them well. How is this question anything but a rant that you are not good enough, ie. where the only valid answer is &quot;train more and get better&quot;?" CreationDate="2021-04-18T10:39:40.720" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21537" PostId="10452" Score="2" Text="This reminds me of &quot;how do you defend yourself from a ninja silently dropping out of a tree onto your back with a sword at night&quot; questions I got from 9-year-olds when teaching karate. If you refuse to wrestle, can't kick, and don't want to punch, well yeah, I guess you lose! If you're interested in winning, maybe ask yourself why you've pre-emptively eliminated all your options." CreationDate="2021-04-18T11:08:10.770" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21538" PostId="10452" Score="1" Text="You probably did not understand my question, I didn't say he is a better fighter, all a said is he is constantly having his arms covering his face so I can't get him, how do I break his defense? Also I never said I can't punch or can't wrestle I said it would be a bad idea to perform specific moves because they would probably never work in my opinion, if anyone thinks they would work, please explain how and why. There is no need to mock me or call a 9-year old, if you don't like the question you can skip it." CreationDate="2021-04-18T12:37:38.563" UserId="11304" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21539" PostId="10452" Score="0" Text="Am I considered an idiot because I want to first think about my options instead of just stepping in the fight with no plan?" CreationDate="2021-04-18T12:52:54.903" UserId="11304" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21540" PostId="10452" Score="1" Text="There's really no answer here except &quot;learn to strike and wrestle&quot; because the constraints you've put are ridiculous. How is he guarding both his face *and* the side of his head (with small gloves) while also blocking body punches and evading low kicks? How is he doing all that while also countering attempts to clinch or shoot?" CreationDate="2021-04-18T17:22:52.007" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21541" PostId="10452" Score="1" Text="What Dave said. If this guy is able to fend your attacks off as you describe it is a given he is more skilled than you. Nobody can block everything all at once (front head, side head, body, legs), so the inability to come up with a fast and threatening enough combination to open up opportunities plus the inability to use grappling (which is not a question of belief, it just works), plus fearing counters so much that you do not even want to use combinations at all but only jabs and check-kicks....this all screams &quot;I do lack the skills to do anything which is even remotely threatening to him&quot;." CreationDate="2021-04-18T18:26:44.297" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21542" PostId="10452" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking Please write an answer about combinations. It is normal to assume the opponent can defend the first attack." CreationDate="2021-04-18T22:25:48.643" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21543" PostId="10343" Score="0" Text="Excellent answer.  Important to note that the lighter Chinese spring steel blades do have a function in practice—they indicate that force is applied properly in thrusts or movements like an upward prick, indicated by the end of the sword wiggling. The more recent trend to practice with combat weight swords is useful on many levels, but the combat-weight blades provide no indication of the efficiency of the practitioner's execution of the technique.  (I personally practice with both for this reason.)" CreationDate="2021-04-19T23:59:54.440" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21544" PostId="10343" Score="1" Text="Note on the Ramsey Dewey video—it is my understanding that the balance point on the blade can be different based on the function.  Where the balance is further from the guard, the blade will have more cleaving/cutting power, and ostensibly more inertia for countering &amp; blocking, although moving that balance point further from the guard makes the sword less &quot;wieldy&quot;.  Balance too close to the guard clearly diminishes cutting power significantly, but my understanding is this is more optimal for blades devoted to thrusting since the position/orientation of the point can be changed more quickly." CreationDate="2021-04-20T00:06:02.003" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21545" PostId="10379" Score="0" Text="Great answer.  The physics is useful!" CreationDate="2021-04-20T00:09:54.123" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21546" PostId="10379" Score="0" Text="PS My understanding is you want minimal necessary flex in a dueling or combat blade, but I have blued spring steel blades, not suitable for combat, that feel quite dangerous regardless! (On occasion, accidents happen, and students get cut with light, unsharpened blades. These cuts can even require stitches. My own teacher stopped allowing most students to use even ultra-light metal swords in class.)  Not going to work through clothing, but any exposed skin, including the face, can be trivially opened.  If the light blade is sharp, my guess is it should also be able to sever tendons." CreationDate="2021-04-20T00:13:57.840" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21547" PostId="10451" Score="2" Text="JKD would likely be the closest you could come, since it's clearly &quot;school of Bruce Lee&quot;, where he wasn't defined by a single style.  But it's more of an artistic homage to that era of American [kung fu fighting](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhUkGIsKvn0), as opposed to a fight choreographer utilizing specific as specific martial system.  American black culture was probably the first to enthusiastically embrace Chinese martial arts in the US!" CreationDate="2021-04-20T00:58:34.410" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21548" PostId="10454" Score="1" Text="Sir, you methodically tackled and answered this question.  I thoroughly appreciate you taking the time and energy to provide your insights.  You even answered the question that I didn't ask but desired to know the answer to (Knowing what style of footwork he did at the 32nd-second mark in video 1).   Take this +1, you earned it champ :)." CreationDate="2021-04-20T01:43:41.727" UserId="11534" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21549" PostId="10455" Score="0" Text="https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/9796/recommendations-for-quiet-punching-kickboxing-bags/9812#9812" CreationDate="2021-04-20T02:08:04.257" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21550" PostId="10454" Score="1" Text="@יהודה It's great to have questions about choreography because it's such a big part of the arts since its introduction to cinema!  (Many martial artists earn very good livings that way, and for those who know what to look for, it's one of the great modern art forms:)" CreationDate="2021-04-20T02:12:53.210" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21551" PostId="10459" Score="0" Text="[This may be a duplicate](https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/787/which-kind-of-breath-provides-the-most-striking-power/8457#8457), but I made it more specific to the relationship of exhalation to striking, and also ask about throwing, b/c I'm interested in the underlying physical/physiological principle." CreationDate="2021-04-20T02:20:57.587" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21552" PostId="8454" Score="1" Text="This is a good science based answer.  Anecdotally, my feeling is that compressing the torso with exhalation strengthens the frame.  In internal Chinese styles, this allows greater sinking of joints which is a way of directing force." CreationDate="2021-04-20T02:23:14.597" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21553" PostId="10451" Score="1" Text="@DukeZhou As you alluded to I heard that JKD isn't really a style but just an expression of the individual's &quot;particular&quot; style of fighting.  For example, Bruce Lee's JKD would be a whole lot different than say Dan Inosanto's expression of JKD because they're two different people with different character traits.  Is this true and if so can one really learn &quot;JKD&quot; from a martial arts academy/gym/dojo?" CreationDate="2021-04-20T05:09:23.143" UserId="11534" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21554" PostId="10459" Score="0" Text="What do you mean by &quot;strongly associated&quot;?" CreationDate="2021-04-20T12:20:15.833" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21555" PostId="10379" Score="1" Text="@DukeZhou and the rest of the internet: &quot;minimal *necessary* flex&quot; is a BIG can of worms. It will depend on the sword: historic swordsmiths chose how much and where swords flexed purposefully. (Even if their steel was much worse than today's.) It depends on what the sword is meant to do and what it could reasonably encounter.&#xA;I can support Duke's other point. It has also been my experience that unsharpened does not mean &quot;incapable of cutting/causing harm&quot;." CreationDate="2021-04-20T13:42:39.013" UserId="6374" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21556" PostId="10379" Score="1" Text="@PipperChip just affirming that I strongly agree with Pipper!  It all depends on the blade and the usage.  In the west, you see more specialization over the course of centuries, which makes blades like rapiers the most lethal in unarmored combat, but in China, straight sword designs remain relatively stable due to late transition to gunpowder, which might to confer a benefit of greater versatility." CreationDate="2021-04-20T19:03:00.813" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21557" PostId="10459" Score="0" Text="@mattm I've noticed that at the beginner level in multiple martial arts, teachers tell the students to exhale when striking.  The linked question in the my prior comment, and another question on &quot;huffing&quot; in boxing seem to validate this association. So I'm trying to get a deeper examination, to determine if it truly is a standard technique across the arts, and how nuanced that simple beginner recommendation becomes at the advanced level, and what are the physiological principles that make it so." CreationDate="2021-04-20T19:05:44.270" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21558" PostId="10451" Score="1" Text="My sense is that JKD was an early expression of MMA, but even before Bruce Lee, Oyama and Kimura were cross training in Karate, Judo and Jujitsu...  There are probably schools that teach &quot;JKD&quot;, but it's not quite the industry contemporary MMA is, and so likely lacks the formalization of the training regimen across schools.  It's also important to remember that a practitioner's own physiology will dictate their strengths and weaknesses, so a good teacher will often emphasize different techniques for different students." CreationDate="2021-04-20T19:11:07.320" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21559" PostId="10339" Score="0" Text="Excellent answer.  (Wondering if the windpipe and back of the neck are excluded for being particularly dangerous...)  Also wondering how it is applied to the groin—my first though would be to an attacker behind you, using a down/backward chop." CreationDate="2021-04-20T19:14:00.853" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21560" PostId="10455" Score="0" Text="Do you have a spare mattress? You can easily get a free one somewhere. Put it up against the wall and it works great as a punching surface. You can throw front kicks too. And trust me, you can you much more harder and faster on it as it doesn't move around." CreationDate="2021-04-20T22:45:22.630" UserId="9515" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21561" PostId="10457" Score="0" Text="The Gracies and other grapplers won plenty of vale tudo fights in boxing rings. The game changes but grappling works just fine in that context." CreationDate="2021-04-21T05:54:55.747" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21562" PostId="10466" Score="0" Text="This site is reality-based." CreationDate="2021-04-21T12:39:42.467" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21563" PostId="10463" Score="1" Text="In 3. you mention &quot;pushing&quot;, is this the common open hand pushing or other types of &quot;strikes&quot; that can also push such as a shoulder strike?" CreationDate="2021-04-21T13:33:05.770" UserId="6502" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21564" PostId="10464" Score="0" Text="Thank you for the amazing details in this, it has very much helped me understand" CreationDate="2021-04-21T13:37:48.557" UserId="6502" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21565" PostId="10469" Score="0" Text="Mattm has partly answered this but I'm curious about your experience: if a wushu practioner is interested in sanda primarily, when starting wushu as a beginner are they required to reach a certain rank first before attending sanda competitions? Eg. In TKD comps are usually black belt and above. Also, how would they approach their training differently, would they still do forms or attend only sparring focused training?" CreationDate="2021-04-22T02:46:39.440" UserId="6502" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21566" PostId="10469" Score="1" Text="@FrontEnd Anyone can enter a Sanda competition. There are age and weight divisions, but no rank requirements. Your particular school of wushu might forbid entering Sanda tournaments until you've reached a certain level of proficiency, but official rules from the IWUF do not have rank requirements. There might be local Sanda competitions that do have categories like beginner, intermediate, and advanced. Each are defined in terms of how long you've been training, not your rank.&#xA;http://www.iwuf.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/IWUF-Wushu-Sanda-Competition-Rules-Judging-Method-2017.pdf" CreationDate="2021-04-22T17:13:09.193" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21567" PostId="10469" Score="1" Text="@FrontEnd I recommend watching some Youtube videos on Sanda training. They don't do forms. Contemporary Wushu and Sanda are lightyears apart. They're completely different. Sanda is more like western boxing training. You get a coach, punching bags, big gloves, a ring, sparring partners, jump ropes, and so on. Wushu is really just forms and acrobatics training. Rarely do you do partnered sparring in contemporary wushu. In traditional wushu you can see sparring. But even traditional wushu is far removed from Sanda." CreationDate="2021-04-22T17:15:38.890" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21568" PostId="10469" Score="0" Text="That's interesting but confusing at the same time. I thought that taolo and sanda were simply different ways of competing in wushu, similar to how a TKD or Karate comp has forms and sparring events. You wouldn't for example have a Karate competition with forms and a boxing bout instead of kumite/sparring since they're two different styles. So, since the event is called Wushu Championships isn't it strange that one of the events (sanda) is as you state completely different to wushu itself? Why not call it Wushu &amp; Sanda Championships instead for example, or have I misunderstood?" CreationDate="2021-04-22T17:50:43.650" UserId="6502" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21569" PostId="10469" Score="1" Text="@FrontEnd To clear up the confusion, Sanda is a particular flavor of sparring governed by the IWUF. Since IWUF is synonymous with &quot;Wushu&quot;, that's why you see both Taolu and Sanda in the same tournament. The word, &quot;wushu&quot;, can refer to any martial art from China. It's very broad. But usually in the west, when you see &quot;wushu&quot; being used, they are referring to contemporary wushu. In China, it can mean any Chinese martial art. So Sanda does fall under the broad definition of &quot;wushu&quot; as well as the IWUF &quot;Wushu&quot; organization. But in terms of what they look like, they're completely different." CreationDate="2021-04-22T18:10:37.137" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21570" PostId="10469" Score="0" Text="That clears things up, thank you" CreationDate="2021-04-23T01:14:07.897" UserId="6502" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21571" PostId="10457" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I don't doubt it!  They are one of the great families in the history of the arts, and their contribution to modern martial arts is arguably more significant than any other.  And my sense is it was a process of development over at least three generations, which offers great insight into the development of martial arts in general in any system." CreationDate="2021-04-23T03:04:22.313" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21572" PostId="10457" Score="0" Text="@DaveLiepmann I accept the downvotes, but even my comment in the answer should *not* be taken as a disavowal of BJJ, rather a nod to the Gracie's acumen which led to this new ultimate fighting sport, which continues to evolve!" CreationDate="2021-04-23T03:10:08.820" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21573" PostId="10463" Score="1" Text="Thanks for your comment!  I've rewritten several of the sections to clarify.  You make a great point—tai chi practitioner should be able to push with any part of their body, including shoulder, or strike with them.  (Musashi wrote about killing an opponent by using the shoulder as a &quot;sword&quot;:) I've also found I can push an opponent with that characteristic &quot;deflect, intercept, punch&quot; movement where the fist spirals into the torso, instead of striking.  Because tai chi is a system of movement as opposed to a set of forms, once you get some technique, you can express it in numerous ways." CreationDate="2021-04-23T03:47:57.987" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21574" PostId="10457" Score="0" Text="My point is about grappling in boxing rings and unrestricted spaces, not the contribution of any family. Early Japanese MMA has quite a bit to say on the topic." CreationDate="2021-04-23T05:17:15.127" UserId="347" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21576" PostId="10457" Score="0" Text="There's a lot of conflicting explanations for Inoki's odd apprah against Ali, but the most believable one to me was a contractual prohibition on leg takedowns and standing kicks." CreationDate="2021-04-23T09:50:09.330" UserId="10450" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21578" PostId="9253" Score="0" Text="&quot;I have kids in class who constantly use colorful vernacular to each other... But if I demoted or expelled every kid who used the n-word, I wouldn't have a class at all.&quot; You tolerate kids saying the N-word in class? How is that either disciplined or respectful?" CreationDate="2021-04-25T07:15:14.337" UserId="11564" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21579" PostId="5731" Score="0" Text="This paper (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1571152/) describes the process in greater detail but it may be a little too academic to quote here." CreationDate="2021-04-26T17:55:02.433" UserId="1615" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21580" PostId="9718" Score="0" Text="Just a side note: &quot;Ringen&quot; is nothing more than the German word for wrestling, ie. &quot;Mit jemandem oder etwas ringen&quot; is literally translated as &quot;To wrestle with somebody or something&quot; - it even involves the same connotations and more metaphorical uses." CreationDate="2021-04-27T18:20:43.017" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21595" PostId="10475" Score="0" Text="The Chinese internal aphorism is &quot;When a practitioner see's a street brawl, the tai chi student makes a wide circle around it, the pakua practitioner proceeds directly through it, never getting struck, and the hsing-yi practitioner rolls up their sleeves and thinks 'practice!'&quot;" CreationDate="2021-04-28T23:59:37.633" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21597" PostId="10474" Score="0" Text="Good answer.  My main comment is that the varieties of conflict and opponents is quite broad.  Even in the street what you tend to see is mayhem, as opposed to coordinated attacks.  Alcohol also often is factor with people who attack other people.  This answer assumes a worst case of disciplined attack by multiple opponents in good condition, with training.  It also ignores the psychological element.  So my only current critique might be insufficient dimensionality." CreationDate="2021-04-29T00:13:19.950" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21598" PostId="10474" Score="0" Text="To give you an example of what I mean, I was jumped by two attackers with more mass when I was 18.  My only martial practice at that time was 1000 pushups &amp; sit-ups per day.  Although they ultimately prevailed, I was quite difficult to contend with, even without training.  My mistake was allowing the bigger one to get me into a full nelson, such that the other could take free shots.  But he was stupid and went for the face, not the body, such that I could roll my head and the punches weren't connecting.  (They were also drunk;)" CreationDate="2021-04-29T00:14:31.070" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21599" PostId="10474" Score="0" Text="I was only eventually felled by being spun into a straight right to the face, and was back on my feet before they could exploit it.  It ultimately ended in a standoff. Today, after 30 years of training, I would be able to dispatch those two without breaking a sweat in a variety of ways, and I only consider myself a mediocre fighter." CreationDate="2021-04-29T00:15:26.857" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21600" PostId="10475" Score="0" Text="Aikido also seem to do a lot of multi-opponent work.  Excellent answer!  Can I ask, could one adapt judo strategy in a similar manner, say against 2 or 3 random knuckleheads, probably drunk?" CreationDate="2021-04-29T00:20:20.130" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21601" PostId="10473" Score="0" Text="A legit tai chi master related a similar story—attacked by a truckload of workers and just fended them off until they got tired.  This particular master has the best hsing-yi focusing I've ever seen, but he must have felt escalating was unnecessary or counter-productive, since the attackers were not trained martial artists." CreationDate="2021-04-29T00:24:28.630" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21602" PostId="9901" Score="0" Text="I've added a supplementary answer.  I find it insane that police departments would have taught this technique, and the only way I can understand it is they did not fear potential liability.  It dangerous as hell, and even when practiced should only be practiced with experienced practitioners, tori *and* uke." CreationDate="2021-04-29T00:30:19.737" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21603" PostId="10473" Score="0" Text="@DukeZhou I think we've all (or a lot of us) have experienced similar things, even with just a single opponent. You can dodge, redirect, dissolve, and so on. Your goal isn't to win but to stalemate. It works for a while. You just hope that during that time your opponent gives up or tires. Sometimes it works." CreationDate="2021-04-29T00:30:37.507" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21604" PostId="10473" Score="0" Text="The variety of scenarios which could occur regarding multiple attackers are greatly varied.  In my experience, people who start fights are often fueled by alcohol, so already at a disadvantage.  I expect coordinated attacks by multiple opponents with training are the rarest scenario, outside of nightclub bouncing, when the bouncers mob the attacker together.  Could you possibly adapt this answer to acknowledge the full potential dimensionality of the subject?  Assuming attackers with skill and training is too limited a scope." CreationDate="2021-04-29T00:34:48.800" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21605" PostId="10473" Score="0" Text="@DukeZhou What I implied is that it's not very reliable. It can work if your opponents aren't really bent on coming after you. Because, in my experience, you can avoid for only so long before the guy decides you're not getting away, runs your down, grabs you, and won't let you go. That's what I expect would happen if you stay there long enough trying to dodge. But who knows, maybe given the right set of circumstances, that guy will not pursue, and the situation will deescalate on its own. That's optimal. Just not very likely. If your goal is to slip and run away, that's fine to try first." CreationDate="2021-04-29T00:44:07.183" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21606" PostId="10473" Score="0" Text="Avoidance and potentially flight is always recommended as the first strategy!  (It seems as though only mostly young men see standing and fighting as a matter of honor, myself included in previous decades;)  But, for instance, I've seen guys turn fit, determined attackers around just per the crazy look in their eye and body language.  There is even a strategy of conveying acknowledgement that you may not prevail, but you're taking at least one of them to the hospital with you. Merely the way one holds a beer bottle or a pool cue can signal this.(It's a minimax strategy you also see in nature.)" CreationDate="2021-04-29T00:52:10.870" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21607" PostId="6493" Score="0" Text="Informally, good fencers, like chess players, think many moves ahead.  It's even said that the first few moves in chess these days are automating and by rote, all about getting to the place where something novel can be inserted." CreationDate="2021-04-29T02:24:22.850" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21608" PostId="6493" Score="0" Text="(In tai chi and wudang they hold to the principle that every counter has a counter which has a counter, and so on, such that true masters always end up in a draw—it's a very friendly art in that way:)" CreationDate="2021-04-29T02:24:37.080" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21609" PostId="10355" Score="0" Text="Absolutely.  I have a few spin movements, but one would never choose them over simple, reliable techniques.  (&quot;stick 'em them with the pointy end&quot; as the most fundamental:)  Attempting a body turn without maintaining blade to blade contact while controlling the enemies blade is imho suicidal. But, when done right, it can be beautiful in choreography.  Where it is mostly done wrong, these star wars choreographers, the best in the world at that particular type, gave us a few bright points." CreationDate="2021-04-29T02:27:44.857" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21610" PostId="4708" Score="0" Text="Great answer.  This is why grapplers fear strikers—it only takes one!" CreationDate="2021-04-29T02:32:01.923" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21611" PostId="7071" Score="0" Text="I strongly disagree because becoming strong and fierce, and projecting physical confidence, will often lead bullies to leave one alone.  But you're right about Martial Arts not normally being about intimidation.  Here, the strategy and benefit are not presenting a weak target." CreationDate="2021-04-29T02:36:21.353" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21612" PostId="7037" Score="0" Text="Simple answer: **any martial art**. Even better than intimidating is projecting strength and physical confidence, and every martial art will give you strength and confidence. Bullies choose targets they perceive to be weak. It's admirable that you look to solve this with fists as opposed to weapons.  Better never to fight, but if it's unavoidable, the best outcomes are when neither party is seriously injured. I even had friendships in youth that started out with fights. In my experience, the quality the *teacher* is more important than this or that art. Find a good one. Excellent question." CreationDate="2021-04-29T02:39:38.950" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21613" PostId="7046" Score="0" Text="@mjeshtri sticking together is a great tactic, but not always possible, so the physical strength and confidence conferred by *any* martial art is always good advice.  Bullies, like animals in nature, choose victims they perceive as easy targets." CreationDate="2021-04-29T02:46:35.293" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21616" PostId="10485" Score="2" Text="Isn't the Art of War already about martial arts?" CreationDate="2021-04-29T03:51:11.750" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21617" PostId="10475" Score="0" Text="Are you asking whether judo has a strategy for for multiple opponents? Or whether you can implement a bagua strategy with judo?" CreationDate="2021-04-29T04:05:53.553" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21618" PostId="10474" Score="0" Text="That's fair, although I do have a whole paragraph on psychology. And yes, street is mayhem. But drunk people don't necessarily make things easier due to pain tolerance and less predictability of movement and escalation." CreationDate="2021-04-29T04:54:43.080" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21619" PostId="10474" Score="0" Text="@DukeZhou Two is handable to some extent, but as I see it, more than two is what most people mean by &quot;multi-opponent&quot;. And even  if they are drunk, they instinctively coordinate to some extent, at least down to circling and attacking simultaneously." CreationDate="2021-04-29T09:03:53.430" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21620" PostId="10488" Score="0" Text="This might fall under opinion-based questions, as it's very open-ended. There are a ton of different combos. And why are you having difficulties with three tricky kicks? Are you being thrown off balance on impact? Having trouble adjusting to the different profile of the bag?" CreationDate="2021-04-29T11:26:37.077" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21622" PostId="10482" Score="0" Text="Comments are not for extended discussion and this is getting a little off clarifying the question. This conversation has been [moved to chat](https://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/123580/discussion-on-question-by-guin-go-should-striking-martial-arts-be-banned)." CreationDate="2021-04-29T13:27:23.820" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21623" PostId="7039" Score="0" Text="&quot;Look to why the bullying is happening, then eliminate that cause&quot;. Good lord, @slugster. Bullying happens because bullies are sphinctoids who jump on people who are a bit different and whom they feel they can intimidate and keep beneath them. There is no reasoning with them, no asking them &quot;How would that make YOU feel?&quot;. And obviously &quot;intimidation&quot; is just meant to be &quot;How can I make them think twice about bullying me?&quot;" CreationDate="2021-04-29T16:47:04.797" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21624" PostId="7046" Score="0" Text="&quot;Intimidate&quot; was not the best choice of word on the poster's part, but MA can and do improve self-confidence and make one look like less of an obvious target. Unfortunately for bullying situations, it's a slow-ish process. @user7783, user6519's answer is pretty good, but if you are still inclined to look into martial arts, stop by multiple schools and observe adult classes. I've done taekwondo for years, but there is a LOT of TKD which is unrealistic, class-sparring-oriented with light contact and no punching to face, no real penalty of getting hit hard if you make a mistake." CreationDate="2021-04-29T16:54:06.673" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21626" PostId="10488" Score="0" Text="While I was doing TKD, I'd say I got the most out of those blue-blocker shields that people used. And hand pads. You need a partner who sets it up at the right angle and can move around. The punching bag, for me, was mostly used for power and conditioning. To a lesser degree, combos. I liked a partner for practicing combos and precision more than a punching bag. You do aerobic conditioning more with a partner, too. With a punching bag, anaerobic." CreationDate="2021-04-29T17:36:59.643" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21627" PostId="10489" Score="5" Text="Sounds like you're not having a good time there. You're hoping there's some way to make it tolerable, because you don't want to leave? I think you know that's not going to happen. I would ask, if the instructor's teaching style is so bad, why are you sticking around? You think this is the best you can do where you are? Suit yourself, but life is short. Spend time with people who build you up, not tear you down. You'll be better off in the long run, even if it means you don't have anywhere to train in the short run." CreationDate="2021-04-30T04:10:16.143" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21628" PostId="10474" Score="0" Text="@DukeZhou Expanded a bit on the points I felt were incomplete." CreationDate="2021-04-30T09:47:34.387" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21629" PostId="10452" Score="0" Text="See also https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/questions/6455/how-to-get-a-punch-through-opponents-guard" CreationDate="2021-04-30T12:13:50.087" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21630" PostId="10490" Score="0" Text="Related: https://martialarts.stackexchange.com/a/10154/6440 - since knees are below 50% even among extraordinary strikers and sprawl is a very basic and easy to learn technique...what is your measure of &quot;effectiveness&quot;?" CreationDate="2021-05-01T18:00:16.887" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21631" PostId="9718" Score="1" Text="@PhilipKlöcking thanks, I've rephrased it to hopefully sound a little less clumsy!" CreationDate="2021-05-02T10:25:30.863" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21632" PostId="10490" Score="0" Text="@PhilipKlöcking that question does take a very different approach but surprisingly the answer has many relevant points to this one. What do you mean by &quot;knees are below 50%&quot;? In terms of effectiveness I guess what I'm looking for is for a striker, which of the two should they focus on first and the reason's behind this." CreationDate="2021-05-02T12:43:28.753" UserId="6502" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21633" PostId="10491" Score="0" Text="Some great points. I would have thought generally knees (or even mid to low kicks) would be better at catching takedown attempts than punches since takedowns are often attempted while an opponent is throwing jabs or other head punches. The uppercut I would think is better suited to this but would need to be used often enough to deter takedown attempts. Knees (and low-mid kicks) start lower than uppercuts and so are a faster option, and even if being used offensively rather than to deter takedowns, have a much better chance at connecting with a ducking foe due to the trajectory of low to high?" CreationDate="2021-05-03T12:17:54.047" UserId="6502" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21634" PostId="10492" Score="0" Text="Not that I know of. I've seen this done multiple times. They need to put one whole person on each limb. Even then, it's sometimes hard. As a 6 year old boy, I had an eye operation done on me, and I had an adverse reaction to one of the injections they gave me hours before the surgery, a muscle relaxer. I was apparently out of control, and it took 4 nurses to pin me down by each limb. I was just a 6 year old boy. Haha. But when you're having that kind of a reaction to drugs, your strength is multiplied. They don't want to injure you or let you injure yourself. So more people are needed." CreationDate="2021-05-03T14:38:57.763" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21635" PostId="10496" Score="1" Text="The big catch is not hurting the patient... Hammerlocks are notoriously easy to accidentally break an arm or shoulder if they other person moves the wrong way. Just working in theatre, where people are just trying to fake the movement during a fight scene, I've seen a fair amount of damage." CreationDate="2021-05-03T23:02:57.577" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21637" PostId="10488" Score="0" Text="yeah the blue shield are definitely so efficient to improve ! &#xA;&#xA;Yes it's like the harder I hit the bag (with tricky kicks), the less I keep in balance. And that doesn't happen when I hit people." CreationDate="2021-05-04T07:06:26.933" UserId="11583" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21638" PostId="10496" Score="0" Text="Huh. I wonder if maybe this is more dangerous in theatre because the people having their arm wrenched generally aren't resisting -- the general rule in stage fighting being that the person being attacked controls the movement -- and additional force is accidentally being applied by someone boosted by adrenalin, or trying to make the movement &quot;look more realistic&quot;. In retrospect, almost every case I've heard of, or personally seen, has involved a man putting a woman into a hammerlock, so there might be a factor of relative stature and/or misogyny." CreationDate="2021-05-04T15:14:20.630" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21639" PostId="10480" Score="1" Text="Probably not what you're looking for, but bob and weave is fairly common in Capoeira due to various factors such as most kicks being thrown high, that it just looks cool when done well, and because the movement can nicely dovetail into various ground and acrobatic movements (in fact, one of the progressions for learning a non-hands cartwheel involves a &quot;bob and weave&quot; motion to create upwards lateral momentum." CreationDate="2021-05-04T15:17:09.830" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21640" PostId="10492" Score="2" Text="I’m voting to close this question because it about the use of force/restraints in a specific circumstance, for which the OP should get proper training from their employer, or professional body. We cannot explain how to restrain someone in crisis safely or legally (e.g. acceptable level of force will differ between jurisdictions)." CreationDate="2021-05-05T14:17:14.887" UserId="1159" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21641" PostId="10496" Score="0" Text="It doesn't matter. I'm seeing laws being made that forbid the use of chokes or any neck manipulation while police officers are attempting to control someone. That's due to highly publicized cases of cops killing people with them. It's not hard to imagine someone in charge at a hospital seeing one of their nurses or doctors trying to apply a neck manipulation hold (even if it's not a choke), and then firing said nurse or doctor. There is a very real risk of being sued for using these kinds of holds, now that awareness of them has spread to the general public. Hospitals can lose their insurance." CreationDate="2021-05-05T14:46:29.677" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21643" PostId="10496" Score="0" Text="The &quot;doesn't matter&quot; part refers to the idea that you can perform a neck manipulation hold safely. Whether or not it's safe makes no difference. It's the optics that matter. And getting fired or sued." CreationDate="2021-05-05T15:11:37.933" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21645" PostId="10492" Score="0" Text="I don't' actually work in this field.  It's more of a theoretical.  In any case if there is an approved way of doing this that works that would answer the question.  If there is not it still answers the question.  From my own martial arts perspective, I would probably go with Judo's Kesagatame because it involves no joint manipulation at all and can be adjusted actively as the detainee struggles or fails to struggle.  But I want to know other's thoughts." CreationDate="2021-05-05T15:43:45.530" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21646" PostId="10496" Score="0" Text="I was referring to the video link. It shows a neck crank." CreationDate="2021-05-05T16:00:58.533" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21647" PostId="10496" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand I was trying to use the video simply as an illustration of the hammerlock position, not for any of the turnover elements. I've switched to using the still photo that approximates the position." CreationDate="2021-05-05T22:55:48.777" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21649" PostId="10492" Score="0" Text="This question can be asked equally well as, &quot;How can you restrain someone without injuring them?&quot;. You can substitute anyone belligerent for the patient." CreationDate="2021-05-05T23:28:19.070" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21650" PostId="10492" Score="1" Text="This is a good (and challenging) question. You mentioned that the patient might not be able to feel pain; I'd break that down further and mention that they may be wired differently to normal people and they may be on medications that interfere with or suppress their normal cognitive processes." CreationDate="2021-05-06T01:33:28.250" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21651" PostId="10499" Score="0" Text="[This is a gorilla v. shark question.](https://stackoverflow.blog/2011/08/16/gorilla-vs-shark/)" CreationDate="2021-05-08T11:04:16.517" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21652" PostId="10499" Score="0" Text="@mattm I don't think the OP is asking how well Bruce Lee would do against stronger opponents, but rather how he was able to do so well against them. I see no reason this question should have been closed, as the OP as I understand it was not asking who would win a fight but how he was able to win. I think you may have misunderstood the question." CreationDate="2021-05-09T05:44:07.547" UserId="10555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21653" PostId="10499" Score="0" Text="@LemmyX I interpret the title as asking how to compare Bruce Lee (gorilla) v. current MMA fighters (shark)." CreationDate="2021-05-09T13:08:15.263" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21654" PostId="10499" Score="0" Text="*&quot;he has received a lot of praise from renown fighters like Connor Mcgreggor&quot;* - just being pedantic and not dissing Bruce Lee, but I would take that praise with a grain of salt. Lee died 15 years before McGregor was born, so any praise McGregor awards to Lee is more a statement of appreciation as a fan who has reviewed historical records, it isn't based on personal experience." CreationDate="2021-05-09T13:42:47.190" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21655" PostId="10499" Score="0" Text="What kind of statistics are you expecting to be available?" CreationDate="2021-05-09T15:10:01.163" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21657" PostId="10475" Score="0" Text="I guess either or both, based on your inclination.  I have high confidence in your knowledge of Judo and martial arts in general." CreationDate="2021-05-10T00:27:34.027" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21658" PostId="10474" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the expansion of your answer!  Upvoted." CreationDate="2021-05-10T00:28:39.360" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21659" PostId="10485" Score="0" Text="@mattm My sense is the text related to military strategy specifically, compared to a martial arts strategy manual such as Five Rings." CreationDate="2021-05-10T00:30:15.207" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21660" PostId="10499" Score="0" Text="Mike Tyson went on record saying not only could he beat Bruce Lee but that it would be insane for anyone to think otherwise. I agree. Size matters. Many black belts in BJJ actually lose repeatedly to white belts who are 2 times their size and 3 times their strength. That being said, even if Bruce Lee was the same size as a modern MMA fighter, I expect the modern MMA fighter to win. And that's because modern MMA is what Bruce Lee's style probably would have evolved to, had he been alive throughout now. JKD concepts schools are still around, and most MMA people have abandoned it." CreationDate="2021-05-10T14:09:13.053" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21661" PostId="10499" Score="0" Text="Well which form of fighting are you referring too? https://www.quora.com/Who-would-win-in-a-fight-Mike-Tyson-vs-Bruce-Lee-Why" CreationDate="2021-05-10T14:35:03.637" UserId="11634" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21662" PostId="10499" Score="0" Text="Mike Tyson would beat Bruce Lee in any style of fight, street fighting, boxing ring, MMA. It wouldn't matter. And it wouldn't even have been close." CreationDate="2021-05-10T14:52:21.857" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21663" PostId="10502" Score="1" Text="When I was younger in my college days, I had some martial arts buddies that would get each other drunk, and we would spar out in the parking lot coming out of the bar or restaurant. It was good times! Oh, it frequently involved weapons, too. Haha. Never, and I mean you definite should (haha!), try this with your martial arts buds. Incidentally, your reflexes are probably okay after several drinks, but your ability to perform the movement correctly and accurately will be diminished. So if you're with your buddies and try to kick over their heads, you might end up hitting them instead." CreationDate="2021-05-11T03:21:28.907" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21664" PostId="10475" Score="1" Text="@DukeZhou In my understanding, Judo has no explicit strategy for multiple opponents, so I won't write a separate answer. The element that would help a bagua-like strategy is its training of quick throws immediately upon contact from standing, in contrast to points-based boxing, for example, where protracted engagements are fine. Where judo alone runs into problems is when the other person can stall, which is not as much of an issue if you can hit the other person as well." CreationDate="2021-05-11T21:44:28.903" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21665" PostId="10475" Score="0" Text="Matt, thank you.  Even that tidbit is useful." CreationDate="2021-05-13T02:34:12.233" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21666" PostId="10493" Score="0" Text="One of the reasons I raised the question is I've been in a situation where a companion was incapacitated and retreat was not an option.  That was, luckily, a single attacker situation, but it might not have been." CreationDate="2021-05-13T02:36:40.973" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21667" PostId="10503" Score="1" Text="Very helpful thank you. Would you mind also commenting on the dangers elbows pose to bob and weavers? I understand the dangers of an elbow to the top or back of the head, but unless I'm mistaken these aren't allowed in MMA so I'm wondering if they would be any more of a threat than a strong body hook or uppercut (while the opponent is crouched of course which would mean it strikes them in the head), both of which already exist in boxing." CreationDate="2021-05-14T11:13:17.523" UserId="6502" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21668" PostId="10503" Score="1" Text="@FrontEnd, I've added some points. Strikes to the back of the head aren't allowed - but not to the top., as I know." CreationDate="2021-05-14T11:48:46.537" UserId="10065" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21669" PostId="10505" Score="0" Text="Gymnastic mats don't look so bad. do they work as well as tatami in aiding falls?" CreationDate="2021-05-14T18:21:41.950" UserId="11650" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21671" PostId="10505" Score="0" Text="Do I use tires on the walls or floors? Sorry, YouTube isn't loading for me. i'm not looking to Troubleshoot for answers, I just want you to describe the training area in more detail." CreationDate="2021-05-14T18:34:57.550" UserId="11650" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21672" PostId="10505" Score="0" Text="@Questioner Gymnastic mats are usually designed to allow for tumbling and rolling on a standard gymnasium floor. It's a more controlled setting than what you'd find in a judo dojo where you get thrown against your will, but the impact level can be similar. In other words, with a proper spring floor and a thick gymnastic mat, I'd personally feel safe enough to practice judo. But do practice breakfalls extensively before throwing people, no matter what surface you are using..." CreationDate="2021-05-14T18:35:00.547" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21673" PostId="10505" Score="0" Text="@Questioner Most judo and BJJ gyms I've visited never bothered with mats on the wall. When practicing techniques, it's a controlled environment and no one should be in a position where crashing in a wall is a possibility. When sparring, students usually line up on the walls while half the group spars in the middle, and they also act as advance warning (&quot;careful guys, you're awfully close to the wall!&quot;). In a smaller home dojo, I guess putting in a layer of foam puzzle mats on the wall (like, maybe a meter high, doesn't have to go from floor to ceiling) would be a good idea." CreationDate="2021-05-14T18:39:15.410" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21674" PostId="10505" Score="0" Text="Okay, thanks so much!" CreationDate="2021-05-14T18:42:13.440" UserId="11650" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21675" PostId="10505" Score="0" Text="I love your answer. Hadn't considered tires and foam before. Those are neat ideas. And fairly cheap if you can locate post-consumer sources of those materials. Awesome. There are a bunch of other ways to do this, of course. Having a spring suspension is another idea. Having a solid concrete slab with just wood and mats on top is easy, too, but depends more on the performance of the mats (which increases costs). A backyard open platform is another idea, but it needs a way to store it or at least cover it with a weatherproof cover. Garage dojos are a thing, too. All kinds of things you can do." CreationDate="2021-05-15T15:35:16.500" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21676" PostId="10507" Score="0" Text="Thanks! &quot;so you can use your own weapons.&quot; In this scene, the deputy didn't appear to have any weapons. I don't think he had a sidearm holstered. Then what could've the deputy done? Don't hesitate to edit your answer to answer this, rather than write a new comment." CreationDate="2021-05-16T01:55:31.527" UserId="11653" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21677" PostId="10507" Score="0" Text="&quot;Hold the opponents hands down and move your body up, then drop your chin.&quot; Are there any pictures or GIFs showing this? If you hold your opponent's hands down, then won't their hands restrict your body movement even more? Then how can you &quot;move your body up&quot;?" CreationDate="2021-05-16T01:56:14.810" UserId="11653" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21680" PostId="10510" Score="0" Text="A frame need not be with straight arms or legs. You can equally (or better) frame with bent limbs, as in a knee shield." CreationDate="2021-05-16T15:25:54.180" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21681" PostId="10505" Score="0" Text="@SteveWeigand - yeah, the options are pretty limitless! I actually volunteered to help when my judo dojo modernized it's setup, and foam is what we went for, though we did consider the tires, we just couldn't find enough for the size of the dojo. We already had great tatami mats, but now it's like falling on a cloud!" CreationDate="2021-05-16T16:35:55.063" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21682" PostId="10511" Score="1" Text="&quot;Kamae&quot; does indeed refer to a generic stance or posture, and is often used to describe a &quot;ready state&quot; rather than an actual posture. In the video, the guy also mentions that this specific kamae starts in the &quot;heisoku dachi&quot; stance, but where you thrust your hands in front of you to ward off and/or intercept attacks." CreationDate="2021-05-16T19:36:26.830" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21683" PostId="10511" Score="0" Text="@Dungarth: Thanks for clarifying.  I was thinking that the specific kamae has a very specific purpose.  If one were simply trying to be ready for a front kick or a low punch, it would be far from ideal for those attacks." CreationDate="2021-05-16T21:07:43.233" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21684" PostId="10512" Score="0" Text="I was wondering if insight can be shed on the particular position at the very start of Tekki Shodan, before movement begins.  It's a guard against something, but not an ideal position for receiving a low kick or low punch. My interest is so that I can do more than go through the motions, but to do so with intent. I just don't know what the intent is." CreationDate="2021-05-16T21:09:56.713" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21686" PostId="10511" Score="0" Text="@user2153235 I've changed my answer to fit your clarification on your question." CreationDate="2021-05-16T22:53:24.990" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21687" PostId="10512" Score="0" Text="@user2153235 Done." CreationDate="2021-05-16T22:53:39.207" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21688" PostId="10512" Score="0" Text="OMG.  That's a tone of information.  Thanks.  I will need some time to digest it." CreationDate="2021-05-16T23:19:21.940" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21689" PostId="10513" Score="0" Text="Thanks for the context.  I think the genericness of the movements (everything and nothing) is one of the big challenges for trainees.  In order to practice with the right intent and nuanced emphasis, I believe that most people require concrete visualization (if that term isn't too much of a contradiction)." CreationDate="2021-05-17T00:41:43.727" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21690" PostId="10512" Score="0" Text="I think I get it, and I thank you for the detailed explanation.  The video you referenced (&quot;Naihanchi Wado Ryu performed by Neil Pottinger&quot;) looks like it not only differs from Shotokan, but folds in some Tekki Nidan, Kandu Dai, and others that I don't know. My opinion is that it is very generous to say that the intended application is hidden. If the opening kamae is the tail end of a technique, the technique is pretty well absent." CreationDate="2021-05-17T00:48:53.527" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21691" PostId="10512" Score="0" Text="I actually delved into the question of the meaning of the katas countless times, on the web &amp; YouTube. Due to the challenging nature of figuring this out, katas have been mostly an exercise for me. My time to do this is limited, and the chances of club hopping until I find a knowledgeable instructor (or cross training with grappling arts) is zero. So I'm figuring out small incremental *possibilities,* years at a time, to maintain the rather limited set of katas to which I've been exposed (some above my not-very-advanced belt level years ago, with help from the internet)." CreationDate="2021-05-17T00:53:23.130" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21692" PostId="10513" Score="1" Text="@user2153235 What you term &quot;study the intent&quot; is actually known as *bunkai* - the meaning/intent/purpose of the individual moves within a kata or pattern." CreationDate="2021-05-17T01:57:17.720" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21693" PostId="10513" Score="1" Text="Yes, every so often, I binge on bunkai videos. Some of them see quite far from the kata motion itself, and it is hard to reconcile the movement with the demonstrated bunkai when performing the kata itself. I *do* try to put the emphasis on power/speed depending on the intended function of a move -- not in bunkai, but in the kata. I haven't had the opportunity to practice bunkai for decades now, so my options are limited. Even when I was with a club, though, the opportunities for bunkai (much less being the person in the middle) were much less than practicing kata." CreationDate="2021-05-17T02:39:03.353" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21694" PostId="10512" Score="1" Text="@user2153235 Yes, the amount of noise on this subject is high. And a beginner can't tell who knows it for real. I often do start with the idea that there's some self-defense thing going on here, and so what could it possibly be? And I rely on my knowledge of classical jujitsu to guide me. Because there's only so many ways the body can move and a finite number of self-defense situations. Sometimes it's pretty obvious what's going on. Sometimes it's not. And when you think you have something, go out and watch videos of others' bunkai. Take away whatever makes the most sense. My advice." CreationDate="2021-05-17T04:45:14.193" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21695" PostId="10513" Score="2" Text="The instructor would be calling it &quot;the [yooi](https://japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/39195/the-meaning-of-yoi-in-martial-arts)&quot;.  Predictive text might have bitten you here! :)" CreationDate="2021-05-17T13:02:45.447" UserId="6517" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21696" PostId="10512" Score="1" Text="One of the most frequent explanations I see out there for this opening salute, especially the variations where you're first moving your hands together up high and then going low in this salute, is: &quot;I'm showing you my empty hands. I come in peace.&quot; Another one I've seen is: &quot;I am hiding my true power.&quot; These kinds of explanations are kind of hilarious to me. :)" CreationDate="2021-05-17T16:10:13.417" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21697" PostId="10485" Score="0" Text="@DukeZhou - Martial Arts traditionally encompass any fields of study that are relevant to warfare. Hand to hand combat and use of weapons are only a fraction of that. In Sun Tzu's time, horse riding, military strategy, siege warfare, supply line management, weapon and armor maintenance and many other things were considered &quot;martial arts&quot;, as no one but soldiers (and nobles who acted as _de facto_ military officers) would need to learn them, and their only use was to wage war more efficiently." CreationDate="2021-05-17T17:43:23.120" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21698" PostId="10512" Score="2" Text="@SteveWeigand - one of my late instructors (in an offshoot of Shorin-Ryu) basically spent his last 20 years studying the Naihanchi series. He felt that the common interpretation of the opening move as a bear hug defense was flawed, and most likely a modern &quot;retcon&quot;. The series rely heavily on trapping and stand up grappling, and he felt that this interpretation basically helped your opponent turn the bear hug into a rear naked choke or hadaka-jime by sliding his arms upwards toward your neck (this is especially evident in Naihanchi nidan). He felt that a trained grappler wouldn't want this." CreationDate="2021-05-17T17:58:26.653" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21699" PostId="10512" Score="0" Text="@Steve Weigand: Yes, amusing, even if one is a movie/comic-book buff." CreationDate="2021-05-17T18:10:25.490" UserId="10351" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21700" PostId="10512" Score="0" Text="In terms of biomechanics, there doesn't seem to be any other possible application that would make any sense, especially the variations that have your hands go up the body first before pushing downward in the salute. In no other circumstance would that apply except if you're trying to get your hands through and over the top of his bear hugging arms. The shrug outward with elbows lifting up to create space leverage makes it easier to break that grip. But a modern BJJ grappler would absolutely do something else. Karate kata contain self-defense techniques. They don't teach &quot;fighting&quot;." CreationDate="2021-05-17T18:23:43.710" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21701" PostId="10512" Score="0" Text="Does it even need to have a martial application? My sensei felt it was mostly a form of _mokuso_, where you empty your mind before performing the kata, making you more receptive to what you can learn from it. To him, the actual kata started by crossing your legs and stepping in to lift your opponent with your knee, a common entry to throws in many south-east Asian styles of wrestling (such as mutou and tegumi). Like a front uchi mata with an over-under grip. In naihanchi nidan, the shrugging motion could be interpreted as forcing open the elbows of someone stiff-arming you from the front, too." CreationDate="2021-05-17T22:45:58.000" UserId="557" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21702" PostId="10512" Score="0" Text="Yes, that cross step is doing exactly that. I think to do this sort of analysis of the opening salute properly, it would require going back to the origin of naihanchi kata and seeing where everything actually came from. I loved watching the Incense Shop Boxing series on Youtube. It's one of the styles certain lineages of karate is based on. It's very cool to see what it must have been before it became karate. There's a lot that's very similar, and some that got truncated and eventually changed completely. I think this salute is in that boat. The tomari-te version may be closer to its origin." CreationDate="2021-05-17T23:06:38.193" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21703" PostId="10519" Score="2" Text="I am slightly concerned with the statement about not wanting to take forever to improve in it. Martial arts is like any skill, it requires practice. The more good practice you get in, the better you will get. Progression speed is (almost) entirely up to you." CreationDate="2021-05-20T13:20:38.330" UserId="548" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21704" PostId="10519" Score="0" Text="I agree. Although some styles certainly take longer to learn than others this is the difference between a few years and a few decades." CreationDate="2021-05-20T13:25:57.337" UserId="6503" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21705" PostId="10518" Score="0" Text="In many years of karate training I have never seen this. Maybe it has something to do with karateka spending many years practicing their kicks, while MMA fighters have considerably less practice and conditioning? You could argue that maybe it's because MMA fighters only ever throw them full power - but then again, how often do you see this happening in Muay Thai, where the round house leg kick is one of the main techniques?" CreationDate="2021-05-20T13:43:25.473" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21706" PostId="10518" Score="0" Text="Hmm... I feel like you could as well state &quot;why do people throw punches when they keep breaking their hands doing so?&quot; since that also happens fairly often (albeit that modern boxing gloves exist in part to reduce hand injuries on the part of the puncher)." CreationDate="2021-05-20T14:19:59.910" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21707" PostId="10520" Score="0" Text="Before everyone tries to correct Huw on details, yes, it's imperfect but not a bad summary to get the gist of it. No need to go into too much detail correcting what was said above, in my opinion." CreationDate="2021-05-20T16:32:19.983" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21708" PostId="10519" Score="0" Text="Saying you only want something that will give you a path where you can see yourself get better and better over time is a pretty broad statement. All martial arts have their own criteria for what is good and bad technique. So if you take anything, you will probably be fine. You add that it shouldn't take forever to improve, but that's subjective. What takes a long time for one may be short for another. I'd just suggest going to a bunch of different schools, sit and watch a class or two, and then decide after all of those which one makes you feel most happy. Good luck!" CreationDate="2021-05-20T16:37:36.347" UserId="1555" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21709" PostId="10519" Score="0" Text="Flexibility is important, perhaps especially in TKD, but don't &quot;worry&quot; about it. Just stretch for 30 min before classes, and also after. Even if you get about half a millimeter better every day or two, it adds up. When I took my first TKD course at age 26 or so, sitting on the mat with my leg straight out, I could only reach about half-way down my shin. For stretching or techniques, don't compare yourself to anyone, just do your best. It's a lot more fun to do things &quot;right&quot; when you're flexible, and it's fun to continuously improve." CreationDate="2021-05-20T16:58:39.103" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21710" PostId="10518" Score="0" Text="@slugster, a quibble: There are the occasional &quot;full power&quot; techniques in MMA, but if you go full power you'll get tired much too soon to win the match. I'd agree with the statement &quot;MMA fighters almost always throw them much harder than amateurs&quot;. paradox, I also wouldn't discredit the &quot;it was just a fluke&quot; factor, where they kick someone just so and it's blocked just so, to cause a break." CreationDate="2021-05-20T17:01:20.253" UserId="6769" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21711" PostId="10519" Score="0" Text="Regarding the &quot;not wanting to take forever&quot;, to be fair, there are schools of martial arts (or maybe just individual schools) where progress is strictly gated, whether because they firmly believe that students should spend a few years learning fundamentals before getting to the fun stuff, or because they want to withhold the fun stuff until they've extracted enough contract/testing fees. Contrast weapons usage in most Japanese TMAs (you don't learn them until higher belts) to something like Capoeira where everyone is drilling the same flashy kicks and jumps." CreationDate="2021-05-21T14:13:27.583" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21712" PostId="10523" Score="1" Text="It would help greatly if you provided a link to the video. Generally, they do work, yes. But only if you smack their face, groin, or something equally distracting so that focus and grip are weaker. Therefore, again, no meaningful answer possible without seeing that technique." CreationDate="2021-05-22T10:11:39.940" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21713" PostId="10523" Score="0" Text="I think it's too risky to smack their face or kick their groin." CreationDate="2021-05-22T10:20:21.567" UserId="11579" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21714" PostId="10523" Score="0" Text="It is actually more risky to allow them to focus on their weapon." CreationDate="2021-05-23T11:41:22.727" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21715" PostId="10523" Score="0" Text="Generally, if you try to disarm a pistol from someone by grabbing the pistol or the hand holding it then you should expect the pistol to discharge (because even a reflexive tightening of the holder's hand could cause enough pressure to be applied to the trigger). You could grab it to force it to point in a different direction, but still expect it to go off. Me, I'd hit the hand arm to point in a different direction, while continuing to hit them multiple times to force them to drop it." CreationDate="2021-05-23T12:01:10.023" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21716" PostId="10523" Score="0" Text="There are ways/places to strike to cause someone's hand to open up (note that they still might not drop it). But I wouldn't wrestle it directly except as a last resort." CreationDate="2021-05-23T12:02:04.390" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21717" PostId="10523" Score="0" Text="@Philip Klöcking I personally disagree with that, if someone wants to kill you, then you would be dead, however when he wants to rob you he doesn't intend to shoot you, just to scare you, by hitting him you just make things worse, he could just get angry and shoot you, I find this too risky." CreationDate="2021-05-24T10:11:47.707" UserId="11579" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21718" PostId="10510" Score="0" Text="@mattm thanks, have reworded it slightly." CreationDate="2021-05-24T10:12:35.900" UserId="8910" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21719" PostId="10523" Score="0" Text="You speak about disarming techniques. They presuppose that you are in grabbing range. The first thing you grab and push away is obviously the barrel, since the gun will go off as soon as you engage, but at least cannot reload if you fix the slide, given it is not a revolver. Either way, as long as they are allowed to focus on their weapon, you'll have a hard time getting hold of their weapon. Thus, one hand pushes the barrel away from you and the other one hits them for distraction. That's not dangerous, that's standard. Again, post a link instead of discussion about standard procedures." CreationDate="2021-05-24T12:04:26.953" UserId="6440" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21720" PostId="10525" Score="0" Text="Thank you for your input." CreationDate="2021-05-24T13:10:19.097" UserId="11673" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21721" PostId="10525" Score="1" Text="@TheDojo To expand on Steve's cautions, ego is often a factor, which all martial artists experience as beginners, routinely overestimating their capabilities.  (True masters, in my experience, tend to be reticent.) Many seek the label of &quot;master&quot; because it carries status. Typically, that determination is made by others about the practitioner, not the practitioner themselves, which is formalized in the belt systems in general. Martial arts is also a business, so there can be financial incentives in making claims, even claims that cannot be substantiated. Humility should always be the guide." CreationDate="2021-05-25T04:27:38.477" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21722" PostId="10526" Score="0" Text="Kodokan seems an interesting example, in that Judo has a significant, acknowledged extant institution.  How do lineages work in Judo?  Is it even considered important when the sport is so thriving and has such prestige?  How does Kodokan award belts? The quality of contemporary Judo seems a good endorsement for that system!" CreationDate="2021-05-25T04:28:58.750" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21723" PostId="10537" Score="1" Text="(Snake hsing-yi is great for one handed guard, bcause it's all coiling, like bagua push hands, but almost no one does snake hsingyi.  You can definitely control a person's entire body, temporarily, with one arm if you have superior leverage, and certainly unbalance them, even trap them;)" CreationDate="2021-05-25T05:14:37.483" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21724" PostId="4768" Score="0" Text="O soto gari variant and Tai otoshi are another ones with high percentage to go for Ippon." CreationDate="2021-05-25T06:54:52.787" UserId="10811" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21725" PostId="10526" Score="1" Text="@DukeZhou Lineage in the Chinese martial arts sense is not considered in judo. Dan rank is assigned by local committee for lower dan ranks and national committee for higher ranks. The Kodokan itself also assigns ranks, which may not agree with the rank assigned by other countries. Politics and bias exist at all levels." CreationDate="2021-05-25T11:13:19.537" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21726" PostId="10540" Score="0" Text="This depends on your local black belt association. Did you have a particular place in mind?" CreationDate="2021-05-25T19:24:27.047" UserId="5961" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21727" PostId="10524" Score="0" Text="There's also no shame in taking a second teacher if you feel you still require advancement in the arts in general.  I know many excellent teachers who have had more than one close teachers!" CreationDate="2021-05-27T01:30:56.253" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21728" PostId="2217" Score="0" Text="I may have misinterpreted what you meant by technique, but answered based on the idea of techniques as methods/applications in combat/sport." CreationDate="2021-05-27T02:25:42.813" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21729" PostId="2416" Score="0" Text="Good point about the nuances of curved blades, and blades in general.  When one looks at historical blades, one finds that their characteristics are governed by their intended use context.  Dueling blades will typically be lighter than battlefield blades, &quot;broadswords/arming swords&quot; vs. rapiers as an example." CreationDate="2021-05-27T02:28:49.570" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21730" PostId="2416" Score="0" Text="[Knight Fight](https://www.history.com/shows/knight-fight) used an enclosed space for melee, and both hip throws and punching in the helmet with gauntlets was heavily utilized, as was trapping opponents against the wall of the enclosure." CreationDate="2021-05-27T02:30:36.583" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21731" PostId="2221" Score="0" Text="In the European tradition, double handed grips on curved blades are rare, where most Kendo seems to involve two-handed grips. However, [double handed sabers were popular during the European Renaissance](http://myarmoury.com/review_lut_10006.html)" CreationDate="2021-05-27T02:33:58.750" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21732" PostId="2217" Score="0" Text="Watch [Knight Fight](https://www.history.com/shows/knight-fight) and you'll see grappling used successfully in an armored context, almost exclusively hip throws when an opponent is trapped against the wall.  Punching with gauntlets is also extensively utilized.  Any form of standing grappling training probably works." CreationDate="2021-05-27T02:35:58.760" UserId="7644" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21733" PostId="10545" Score="0" Text="I'd recommend splitting each item into its own question." CreationDate="2021-05-28T17:54:09.927" UserId="1780" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21734" PostId="10545" Score="0" Text="*is it real?* - nope, not really.Punch or squeeze someone hard enough and it will hurt, but usually TV and Hollywood are based on acting and camera work, not real martial arts and legitimate methodology." CreationDate="2021-05-29T09:09:46.087" UserId="70" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
  <row Id="21735" PostId="10548" Score="0" Text="So in order to learn proper boxing, I should ... watch amateurs, and not the best of the best? What a convincing argument." CreationDate="2021-05-29T18:46:25.680" UserId="11692" ContentLicense="CC BY-SA 4.0" />
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